Q4 2025 Tennant Co Earnings Call
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. My name is Abby, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Tennant Company's 2025 Q4 and full year results earnings conference call. This call is being recorded. There will be time for Q&A at the end of the call. Please press star one if you would like to ask a question. After the Q&A, please stay on the line for closing remarks from management. If you have joined our call today via telephone and logged in to the conference call presentation on your computer, please mute the audio on your computer to avoid potential quality issues during the call. Thank you for participating in Tennant Company's 2025 Q4 and full year results earnings conference call. Beginning today's meeting is Mr.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. My name is Abby, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Tennant Company's 2025 Q4 and full year results earnings conference call. This call is being recorded. There will be time for Q&A at the end of the call. Please press star one if you would like to ask a question. After the Q&A, please stay on the line for closing remarks from management.
Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. My name is Abby, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Tennant Company's 2025 fourth quarter and full-year results earnings conference call.
Speaker #1: This call is being recorded. There will be time for Q&A at the end of the call. Please press star one if you would like to ask a question.
Speaker #1: After the Q&A, please stay on the line for closing remarks from management. If you have joined our call today via telephone and logged into the conference call presentation on your computer, please mute the audio on your computer to avoid potential quality issues during the call.
Operator: If you have joined our call today via telephone and logged in to the conference call presentation on your computer, please mute the audio on your computer to avoid potential quality issues during the call. Thank you for participating in Tennant Company's 2025 Q4 and full year results earnings conference call. Beginning today's meeting is Mr. Lorenzo Bassi, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations for Tennant Company. Mr. Bassi, you may begin.
Speaker #1: Thank you for participating in TENNANT Company's 2025 fourth quarter and full-year results earnings conference call. Beginning today's meeting is Mr. Lorenzo Bassi, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations for TENNANT Company.
Operator: Lorenzo Bassi, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations for Tennant Company. Mr. Bassi, you may begin.
Speaker #1: Mr. Bassi, you may begin.
Speaker #2: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to TENNANT Company's fourth quarter and full-year 2025 earnings conference call. I'm Lorenzo Bassi, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations.
Lorenzo Bassi: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Tennant Company's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. I'm Lorenzo Bassi, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Joining me on the call today are David Huml, President and CEO, and Fay West, Senior Vice President and CFO. Today, we will review our Q4 and full year performance for 2025. Dave will discuss our results and enterprise strategy, and Fay will cover our financials. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call to questions. Our earnings press release and live presentation that accompany this conference call are available on our investor relations website. Before we begin, please be advised that our remarks this morning and our answers to questions may contain forward-looking statements regarding the company's expectations of future performance.
Lorenzo Bassi: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Tennant Company's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. I'm Lorenzo Bassi, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Joining me on the call today are David Huml, President and CEO, and Fay West, Senior Vice President and CFO. Today, we will review our Q4 and full year performance for 2025. Dave will discuss our results and enterprise strategy, and Fay will cover our financials. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call to questions. Our earnings press release and live presentation that accompany this conference call are available on our investor relations website. Before we begin, please be advised that our remarks this morning and our answers to questions may contain forward-looking statements regarding the company's expectations of future performance.
Speaker #2: Joining me on the call today are Dave Huml, President and CEO, and Fay West, Senior Vice President and CFO. Today, we will review our fourth quarter and full-year performance for 2025.
Speaker #2: David Huml will discuss our results and enterprise strategy, and Fay West will cover our financials. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call to questions.
Speaker #2: Our earnings press release and slide presentation that accompanied this conference call are available on our Investor Relations website. Before we begin, please be advised that our remarks this morning and our answers to questions may contain forward-looking statements regarding the company's expectations of future performance.
Speaker #2: Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may defer materially from those contained in the statements. These risks and uncertainties are described in today's news release and the documents we file with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Lorenzo Bassi: Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially from those contained in the statements. These risks and uncertainties are described in today's news release and the documents we file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We encourage you to review those documents, particularly our safe harbor statement, for a description of the risks and uncertainties that may affect our results. Additionally, on this conference call, we will discuss non-GAAP measures that include or exclude certain items. Our 2025 Q4 and full year earnings release and presentation include the comparable GAAP measures and a reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to our GAAP results. I'll now turn the call over to Dave.
Lorenzo Bassi: Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially from those contained in the statements. These risks and uncertainties are described in today's news release and the documents we file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We encourage you to review those documents, particularly our safe harbor statement, for a description of the risks and uncertainties that may affect our results. Additionally, on this conference call, we will discuss non-GAAP measures that include or exclude certain items. Our 2025 Q4 and full year earnings release and presentation include the comparable GAAP measures and a reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to our GAAP results. I'll now turn the call over to Dave.
Speaker #2: We encourage you to review those documents, particularly our Safe Harbor Statement for a description of the risks and uncertainties that may affect our results.
Speaker #2: Additionally, on this conference call, we will discuss non-GAAP measures that include or exclude certain items. Our 2025 fourth quarter and full-year earnings release and presentation include the comparable GAAP measures and a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to our GAAP results.
Speaker #2: I'll now turn the call over to Dave.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Lorenzo, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q4 and full-year 2025 earnings call. As we reported today, our Q4 and full-year 2025 results were materially impacted by the North America Go-Live of our new ERP system during the first week of November of 2025.
Dave Huml: Thank you, Lorenzo. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q4 and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. As we reported today, our Q4 and full year 2025 results were materially impacted by the North America go-live of our new ERP system during the 1st week of November 2025. I will be devoting a significant portion of my overall remarks to the North America ERP go-live. I want to address upfront the impacts, including operationally, financially, and for our customers, where we stand today, and the path forward. Let's talk about what happened. Despite a successful go-live in the APAC region in September and extensive preparation in North America, the cutover of the ERP system in the 1st week of November introduced severe system functionality issues that limited our ability to enter orders, ship products, and service our customers.
Dave Huml: Thank you, Lorenzo. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our Q4 and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. As we reported today, our Q4 and full year 2025 results were materially impacted by the North America go-live of our new ERP system during the 1st week of November 2025. I will be devoting a significant portion of my overall remarks to the North America ERP go-live. I want to address upfront the impacts, including operationally, financially, and for our customers, where we stand today, and the path forward. Let's talk about what happened. Despite a successful go-live in the APAC region in September and extensive preparation in North America, the cutover of the ERP system in the 1st week of November introduced severe system functionality issues that limited our ability to enter orders, ship products, and service our customers.
Speaker #3: I will be devoting a significant portion of my overall remarks to the North America ERP Go-Live. I want to address upfront the impacts, including operationally, financially, and for our customers.
Speaker #3: Where we stand today and the path forward. Let's talk about what happened. Despite a successful Go-Live in the APAC region in September and extensive preparation in North America, the cutover of the ERP system in the first week of November introduced severe system functionality issues that limited our ability to enter orders, ship products, and service our customers.
Speaker #3: Core functionality required for processing orders, particularly for our highly configurable machines, did not perform as intended. As these issues emerged, our teams, together with our implementation partners, mobilized extensive stop-gap procedures.
Dave Huml: Core functionality required for processing orders, particularly for our highly configurable machines, did not perform as intended. As these issues emerged, our teams, together with our implementation partners, mobilized extensive stopgap procedures to offset system limitations that prevented normal order entry, production, sequencing, and shipping. They were highly labor-intensive, inefficient, and not an adequate substitute for fully functioning workflows. Despite these sustained efforts to diagnose, remediate, and recover, the underlying problems proved far more complex and persistent than we anticipated based on our stress tests. We expected a short-lived productivity dip, similar to APAC, where operations normalized within a week. Instead, in North America, we lost 3 full weeks of machine order entry and parts shipping capability.
Dave Huml: Core functionality required for processing orders, particularly for our highly configurable machines, did not perform as intended. As these issues emerged, our teams, together with our implementation partners, mobilized extensive stopgap procedures to offset system limitations that prevented normal order entry, production, sequencing, and shipping. They were highly labor-intensive, inefficient, and not an adequate substitute for fully functioning workflows. Despite these sustained efforts to diagnose, remediate, and recover, the underlying problems proved far more complex and persistent than we anticipated based on our stress tests. We expected a short-lived productivity dip, similar to APAC, where operations normalized within a week. Instead, in North America, we lost 3 full weeks of machine order entry and parts shipping capability.
Speaker #3: To offset system limitations that prevented normal order entry, production sequencing, and shipping. These actions allowed us to process limited activity, but they were highly labor-intensive, inefficient, and not an adequate substitute for fully functioning workflows.
Speaker #3: Despite these sustained efforts to diagnose, remediate, and recover, the underlying problems proved far more complex and persistent than we anticipated based on our stress tests.
Speaker #3: We expected a short-lived productivity dip similar to APAC, where operations normalized within a week; instead, in North America, we lost three full weeks of machine order entry and parts shipping capability.
Speaker #3: In essence, the system could not be stabilized as quickly as anticipated. Prolonging the disruption and amplifying the operational impact irrespective of the significant investment we made in recovery actions.
Dave Huml: In essence, the system could not be stabilized as quickly as anticipated, prolonging the disruption and amplifying the operational impact, irrespective of the significant investment we made in recovery actions. What do we have planned, and why did it not operate as expected? We moved into the go-live based on the results of our testing and the confidence we had in the readiness of the environment, including sign-off from both the business readiness team and our implementation partners. We also had clear mitigation plans that included safety stock and manual contingencies. These were designed to offset anticipated potential inefficiencies, not an unexpected fundamental inability to transact for a prolonged period. We also relied heavily on our APAC implementation experience as a proxy for North America. While we believed that experience would guide our North America transition, the complexity and scale of the North American business created unique challenges.
Dave Huml: In essence, the system could not be stabilized as quickly as anticipated, prolonging the disruption and amplifying the operational impact, irrespective of the significant investment we made in recovery actions. What do we have planned, and why did it not operate as expected? We moved into the go-live based on the results of our testing and the confidence we had in the readiness of the environment, including sign-off from both the business readiness team and our implementation partners. We also had clear mitigation plans that included safety stock and manual contingencies. These were designed to offset anticipated potential inefficiencies, not an unexpected fundamental inability to transact for a prolonged period. We also relied heavily on our APAC implementation experience as a proxy for North America. While we believed that experience would guide our North America transition, the complexity and scale of the North American business created unique challenges.
Speaker #3: So what do we have planned, and why did it not operate as expected? We moved into the Go-Live based on the results of our testing and the confidence we had in the readiness of the environment, including sign-off from both the business readiness team partners.
Speaker #3: We also had clear mitigation plans that included safety stock and manual contingencies. These were designed to offset anticipated potential inefficiencies, not an unexpected, fundamental inability to transact for a prolonged period.
Speaker #3: We also relied heavily on our APAC implementation experience as a proxy for North America. While we believe that experience would guide our North America transition, the complexity and scale of the North American business created unique challenges.
Speaker #3: Let's talk about the operational and customer impacts. Our operations were significantly disrupted, particularly from the cutover date through November, across all three U.S. production and distribution facilities.
Dave Huml: Let's talk about the operational and customer impacts. Our operations were significantly disrupted, particularly from the cut-over date through November, across all three US production and distribution facilities. To keep plants running, we incurred additional overtime, freight, and other direct operating costs from the cut-over date and into December as we worked to maintain production and distribution. The customer impact was equally severe. During November, starting on the cut-over date, we were unable to fulfill many orders and could not provide reliable visibility into shipment timing. Our parts and consumables and service businesses were especially affected, as we were unable to ship parts for most of the month. Our inability to operate at scale drove an extended backlog and limited our ability to provide reliable shipment dates. We take great pride in our customer relationships and recognize how much trust our partners place in us.
Dave Huml: Let's talk about the operational and customer impacts. Our operations were significantly disrupted, particularly from the cut-over date through November, across all three US production and distribution facilities. To keep plants running, we incurred additional overtime, freight, and other direct operating costs from the cut-over date and into December as we worked to maintain production and distribution. The customer impact was equally severe. During November, starting on the cut-over date, we were unable to fulfill many orders and could not provide reliable visibility into shipment timing. Our parts and consumables and service businesses were especially affected, as we were unable to ship parts for most of the month. Our inability to operate at scale drove an extended backlog and limited our ability to provide reliable shipment dates. We take great pride in our customer relationships and recognize how much trust our partners place in us.
Speaker #3: To keep plants running, we incurred additional overtime, freight, and other direct operating costs from the cutover date and into December as we worked to maintain production and distribution.
Speaker #3: The customer impact was equally severe. During November, starting on the cutover date, we were unable to fulfill many orders and could not provide reliable visibility into shipment timing.
Speaker #3: Our parts and consumables and service businesses were especially affected as we were unable to ship parts for most of the month. Our inability to operate at scale drove an extended backlog and limited our ability to provide reliable shipment dates.
Speaker #3: We take great pride in our customer relationships and recognize how much trust our partners place in us. Our teams communicated frequently throughout the disruption, and many of our customers showed patience in the early days.
Dave Huml: Our teams communicated frequently throughout the disruption, many of our customers showed patience in the early days. We are appreciative of that, we sincerely apologize for the strain this has caused. Let's shift to the financial impact. The operational constraints had clear implications for both Q4 and full year performance. Orders were reduced by approximately $15 million, as the challenges we experienced in parts and consumables and in equipment directly affected demand. These dynamics, combined with our limited ability to operate plants at normal capacity, resulted in an estimated $30 million impact on net sales. Roughly half of this shortfall reflects the lower order intake, the other half represents activity that moved into backlog. Gross margin was also pressured.
Dave Huml: Our teams communicated frequently throughout the disruption, many of our customers showed patience in the early days. We are appreciative of that, we sincerely apologize for the strain this has caused. Let's shift to the financial impact. The operational constraints had clear implications for both Q4 and full year performance. Orders were reduced by approximately $15 million, as the challenges we experienced in parts and consumables and in equipment directly affected demand. These dynamics, combined with our limited ability to operate plants at normal capacity, resulted in an estimated $30 million impact on net sales. Roughly half of this shortfall reflects the lower order intake, the other half represents activity that moved into backlog. Gross margin was also pressured.
Speaker #3: We are appreciative of that, and we sincerely apologize for the strain this has caused. Let's shift to the financial impact. The operational constraints had clear implications for both fourth quarter and full-year performance.
Speaker #3: Orders were reduced by approximately $15 million, as the challenges we experienced in parts and consumables and in equipment directly affected demand. These dynamics, combined with our limited ability to operate plants at normal capacity, resulted in an estimated $30 million impact on net sales.
Speaker #3: Roughly half of this shortfall reflects the lower order intake, and the other half represents activity that moved into backlog. Gross margin was also pressured.
Speaker #3: Roughly 13.5 million of the impact came from the sales shortfall, and another 8.5 million was tied to operational inefficiencies and higher labor and freight costs, along with the leverage.
Dave Huml: Roughly $13.5 million of the impact came from the sales shortfall, and another $8.5 million was tied to operational inefficiencies and higher labor and freight costs, along with deleverage. As a result of this gross margin impact, adjusted EBITDA was negatively affected. The ERP implementation challenges reduced Q4 adjusted EBITDA by an estimated $22 million. In addition to the operational effect, I would like to update you on how our ERP project costs are tracking relative to expectations. To date, since 2023, we have invested approximately $98 million in the program. For 2025, our spending remained broadly in line with plan. However, the Q4 challenges required incremental stabilization and support resources that were not originally contemplated.
Dave Huml: Roughly $13.5 million of the impact came from the sales shortfall, and another $8.5 million was tied to operational inefficiencies and higher labor and freight costs, along with deleverage. As a result of this gross margin impact, adjusted EBITDA was negatively affected. The ERP implementation challenges reduced Q4 adjusted EBITDA by an estimated $22 million. In addition to the operational effect, I would like to update you on how our ERP project costs are tracking relative to expectations. To date, since 2023, we have invested approximately $98 million in the program. For 2025, our spending remained broadly in line with plan. However, the Q4 challenges required incremental stabilization and support resources that were not originally contemplated.
Speaker #3: As a result of this gross margin impact, adjusted EBITDA was negatively affected. The ERP implementation challenges reduced fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA by an estimated $22 million.
Speaker #3: In addition to the operational effects I would like to update you on how our ERP project costs are tracking relative to expectations. To date, since 2023, we have invested approximately $98 million in the program.
Speaker #3: For 2025, our spending remained broadly in line with plan. However, the fourth quarter challenges required incremental stabilization and support resources that were not originally contemplated.
Speaker #3: As a result, we now expect ERP-related spending in 2026 to exceed the roughly $5 million initially planned, and likely reach more than $20 million as we complete remediation, maintain hyper-care support, and advance the next stages of our ERP modernization program.
Dave Huml: We now expect ERP-related spending in 2026 to exceed the roughly $5 million initially planned and likely reach more than $20 million as we complete remediation, maintain hypercare support, and advance the next stages of our ERP modernization program. We believe these investments are appropriate to achieve the long-term benefits of our ERP modernization. Where are we now? The short answer is that we have solved the critical issues we faced starting on the cut-over date in the first week of November. We remain in hypercare in North America, and while teams are identifying and fixing issues daily, the system is becoming more reliable and improving each week. In fact, core workflows, including order management, production, scheduling, and fulfillment, have improved. We are working toward achieving system stability by the end of Q1 2026, with efficiency improvements continuing into Q2.
Dave Huml: We now expect ERP-related spending in 2026 to exceed the roughly $5 million initially planned and likely reach more than $20 million as we complete remediation, maintain hypercare support, and advance the next stages of our ERP modernization program. We believe these investments are appropriate to achieve the long-term benefits of our ERP modernization. Where are we now? The short answer is that we have solved the critical issues we faced starting on the cut-over date in the first week of November. We remain in hypercare in North America, and while teams are identifying and fixing issues daily, the system is becoming more reliable and improving each week. In fact, core workflows, including order management, production, scheduling, and fulfillment, have improved. We are working toward achieving system stability by the end of Q1 2026, with efficiency improvements continuing into Q2.
Speaker #3: We believe these investments are appropriate to achieve the long-term benefits of our ERP modernization. So, where are we now? The short answer is that we have solved the critical issues we faced starting on the cutover date in the first week of November.
Speaker #3: We remain in hyper-care in North America and while teams are identifying and fixing issues daily, the system is becoming more reliable and improving each week.
Speaker #3: In fact, core workflows, including order management, production scheduling, and fulfillment, have improved. We are working toward achieving system stability by the end of Q1 2026, with efficiency improvements continuing into Q2.
Speaker #3: How are we planning for the last regional Go-Live in EMEA? The experience in North America is reshaping our approach to the remaining ERP phases in EMEA, which initially was supposed to begin and complete in Q1 2026.
Dave Huml: How are we planning for the last regional go-live in EMEA? The experience in North America is reshaping our approach to the remaining ERP phases in EMEA, which initially was supposed to begin and complete in Q1 2026. We have paused the EMEA timeline, not to set a new date, but to focus the entire organization on North America recovery as our 100% priority. Despite the disruption, our strategic direction remains intact. At the end of the day, everything we are working through now reinforces the long-term value of our ERP transformation, including better data, greater scalability, and ultimately a more efficient and capable enterprise, all with the goal of serving our customers that much more efficiently and effectively. Despite these challenges in the second half of Q4, the fundamentals of the business remain strong.
Dave Huml: How are we planning for the last regional go-live in EMEA? The experience in North America is reshaping our approach to the remaining ERP phases in EMEA, which initially was supposed to begin and complete in Q1 2026. We have paused the EMEA timeline, not to set a new date, but to focus the entire organization on North America recovery as our 100% priority. Despite the disruption, our strategic direction remains intact. At the end of the day, everything we are working through now reinforces the long-term value of our ERP transformation, including better data, greater scalability, and ultimately a more efficient and capable enterprise, all with the goal of serving our customers that much more efficiently and effectively. Despite these challenges in the second half of Q4, the fundamentals of the business remain strong.
Speaker #3: We have paused the EMEA timeline not to set a new date, but to focus the entire organization on North America recovery as our 100% priority.
Speaker #3: Despite the disruption, our strategic direction remains intact. At the end of the day, everything we are working through now reinforces the long-term value of our ERP transformation, including better data, greater scalability, and ultimately a more efficient and capable enterprise, all with the goal of serving our customers that much more efficiently and effectively.
Speaker #3: Despite these challenges in the second half of the fourth quarter, the fundamentals of the business remain strong. Our international teams delivered solid execution throughout the year and the momentum we saw outside North America in the fourth quarter highlights the breadth and durability of our global footprint.
Dave Huml: Our international teams delivered solid execution throughout the year. The momentum we saw outside North America in Q4 highlights the breadth and durability of our global footprint. EMEA grew 5.1% year-over-year, supported by price realization, foreign exchange, and steady commercial execution across multiple markets. APAC returned to improved performance late in the year as growth in Australia and India offset softer demands in parts of East Asia. These results reinforce the strength of our global portfolio and our team's ability to perform in dynamic market conditions. From an innovation and growth standpoint, 2025 marked important progress on several of our strategic fronts. We launched four major new products during the year and continued to see increased customer adoption of our robotics portfolio, which delivered roughly $85 million in AMR sales, inclusive of recurring autonomy fees.
Dave Huml: Our international teams delivered solid execution throughout the year. The momentum we saw outside North America in Q4 highlights the breadth and durability of our global footprint. EMEA grew 5.1% year-over-year, supported by price realization, foreign exchange, and steady commercial execution across multiple markets. APAC returned to improved performance late in the year as growth in Australia and India offset softer demands in parts of East Asia. These results reinforce the strength of our global portfolio and our team's ability to perform in dynamic market conditions. From an innovation and growth standpoint, 2025 marked important progress on several of our strategic fronts. We launched four major new products during the year and continued to see increased customer adoption of our robotics portfolio, which delivered roughly $85 million in AMR sales, inclusive of recurring autonomy fees.
Speaker #3: EMEA grew 5.1% year over year, supported by price realization, foreign exchange, and steady commercial execution across multiple markets. APAC returned to improved performance late in the year as growth in Australia and India offset softer demands in parts of East Asia.
Speaker #3: These results reinforce the strength of our global portfolio and our team's ability to perform in dynamic market conditions. From an innovation and growth standpoint, 2025 marked important progress on several of our strategic fronts.
Speaker #3: We launched four major new products during the year and continue to see increased customer adoption of our robotics portfolio, which delivered roughly $85 million in AMR sales inclusive of recurring autonomy fees.
Speaker #3: We also maintained disciplined capital allocation throughout the year. In 2025, we repurchased approximately 1.1 million shares for $88 million, reducing outstanding shares by about 6%.
Dave Huml: We also maintained disciplined capital allocation throughout the year. In 2025, we repurchased approximately 1.1 million shares, or $88 million, reducing outstanding shares by about 6%. This was an intentional and meaningful deployment of capital, consistent with our long-standing strategy. We were able to do this while continuing our commitment to returning capital through dividends, including the company's 54th consecutive annual dividend increase. Our balance sheet remains strong, and with low leverage and solid liquidity, we have the capacity to invest in innovation, operations, and strategic priorities while still returning capital to shareholders. The actions we took in 2025 reflect our stated capital allocation priorities. That is how we will continue to approach capital allocation in 2026. We remain committed to growing our business, investing organically, and pursuing strategic acquisition opportunities.
Dave Huml: We also maintained disciplined capital allocation throughout the year. In 2025, we repurchased approximately 1.1 million shares, or $88 million, reducing outstanding shares by about 6%. This was an intentional and meaningful deployment of capital, consistent with our long-standing strategy. We were able to do this while continuing our commitment to returning capital through dividends, including the company's 54th consecutive annual dividend increase. Our balance sheet remains strong, and with low leverage and solid liquidity, we have the capacity to invest in innovation, operations, and strategic priorities while still returning capital to shareholders. The actions we took in 2025 reflect our stated capital allocation priorities. That is how we will continue to approach capital allocation in 2026. We remain committed to growing our business, investing organically, and pursuing strategic acquisition opportunities.
Speaker #3: This was an intentional and meaningful deployment of capital consistent with our longstanding strategy. We were able to do this while continuing our commitment to returning capital through dividends, including the company's 54th consecutive annual dividend increase.
Speaker #3: Our balance sheet remained strong and with low leverage and solid liquidity, we had the capacity to invest in innovation, operations, and strategic priorities while still returning capital to shareholders.
Speaker #3: The actions we took in 2025 reflect our stated capital allocation priorities and that is how we will continue to approach capital allocation in 2026.
Speaker #3: We remain committed to growing our business, investing organically, and pursuing strategic acquisition opportunities. We will also continue to use our share repurchase authorization when it represents the best use of capital.
Dave Huml: We will also continue to use our share repurchase authorization when it represents the best use of capital. That discipline, combined with the strength of our balance sheet, positions us well as we move into next year. Let me shift and talk about the launch of our dedicated TNC robotics group. A major milestone in the quarter was the launch of a dedicated organization focused on accelerating the adoption and scaling of our autonomous robotic cleaning solutions. This new structure brings together expertise spanning product design and engineering, production, commercial strategy, marketing, business development, and customer support. The intent is to create a unified and focused team responsible for advancing our autonomous product roadmap, expanding production capacity, and supporting customers throughout the deployment and operational life cycle of these solutions. The formation of this group directly aligns with our enterprise growth pillars.
Dave Huml: We will also continue to use our share repurchase authorization when it represents the best use of capital. That discipline, combined with the strength of our balance sheet, positions us well as we move into next year. Let me shift and talk about the launch of our dedicated TNC robotics group. A major milestone in the quarter was the launch of a dedicated organization focused on accelerating the adoption and scaling of our autonomous robotic cleaning solutions. This new structure brings together expertise spanning product design and engineering, production, commercial strategy, marketing, business development, and customer support. The intent is to create a unified and focused team responsible for advancing our autonomous product roadmap, expanding production capacity, and supporting customers throughout the deployment and operational life cycle of these solutions. The formation of this group directly aligns with our enterprise growth pillars.
Speaker #3: That discipline, combined with the strength of our balance sheet, positions us well as we move into next year. Let me shift and talk about the launch of our dedicated T&C robotics group.
Speaker #3: A major milestone in the quarter was the launch of a dedicated organization focused on accelerating the adoption and scaling of our autonomous robotic cleaning solutions.
Speaker #3: This new structure brings together expertise spanning product design and engineering, production, commercial strategy, marketing, business development, and customer support. The intent is to create a unified and focused team responsible for advancing our autonomous product roadmap, expanding production capacity, and supporting customers throughout the deployment and operational lifecycle of these solutions.
Speaker #3: The formation of this group directly aligns with our enterprise growth pillars. The team will accelerate our product roadmap, strengthen our commercial focus, and enhance the customer journey.
Dave Huml: The team will accelerate our product roadmap, strengthen our commercial focus, and enhance customer engagement throughout the adoption journey. By unifying these capabilities, we are better positioned to drive awareness, increase demand, build the right channels, and deliver a consistent customer experience as autonomous solutions scale globally. The AMR market continues to expand, driven by persistent labor shortages, rapidly advancing technologies, and declining costs. At the same time, the landscape is becoming more competitive as new entrants move into the space. Establishing a dedicated AMR organization positions us to move faster, innovate more efficiently, and provide the support needed for consistent in-field performance. This is a meaningful step forward in advancing our enterprise strategy and capturing the significant opportunity emerging in autonomous cleaning. With this renewed focus and increased investment, we are elevating our long-term ambition.
Dave Huml: The team will accelerate our product roadmap, strengthen our commercial focus, and enhance customer engagement throughout the adoption journey. By unifying these capabilities, we are better positioned to drive awareness, increase demand, build the right channels, and deliver a consistent customer experience as autonomous solutions scale globally. The AMR market continues to expand, driven by persistent labor shortages, rapidly advancing technologies, and declining costs. At the same time, the landscape is becoming more competitive as new entrants move into the space. Establishing a dedicated AMR organization positions us to move faster, innovate more efficiently, and provide the support needed for consistent in-field performance. This is a meaningful step forward in advancing our enterprise strategy and capturing the significant opportunity emerging in autonomous cleaning. With this renewed focus and increased investment, we are elevating our long-term ambition.
Speaker #3: By unifying these capabilities, we are better positioned to drive awareness, increase demand, build the right channels, and deliver a consistent customer experience as autonomous solutions scale globally.
Speaker #3: The AMR market continues to expand, driven by persistent labor shortages, rapidly advancing technologies, and declining costs. At the same time, the landscape is becoming more competitive as new entrants move into the space.
Speaker #3: Establishing a dedicated AMR organization positions us to move faster. Innovate more efficiently and provide the support needed for consistent, in-field performance. This is a meaningful step forward in advancing our enterprise strategy and capturing the significant opportunity emerging in autonomous cleaning.
Speaker #3: With this renewed focus and increased investment, we are elevating our long-term ambition. We expect our AMR revenue to reach approximately $250 million by 2028, reflecting our confidence in the technology, the strength of our portfolio, and our ability to lead the ongoing transformation of this industry.
Dave Huml: We expect our AMR revenue to reach approximately $250 million by 2028, reflecting our confidence in the technology, the strength of our portfolio, and our ability to lead the ongoing transformation of this industry. Looking ahead to 2026, our primary focus is on restoring full operating capability in North America and driving steady improvement in efficiency as our system performance strengthens. We expect the challenges associated with the ERP transition to ease through the first half of the year, as we expect reliability improvements, phaseout of manual workarounds, and teams to transition from stabilization to a focus on productivity. At the same time, we are encouraged by the momentum in our autonomous and robotic solutions. The dedicated cross-functional organization we established is positioned to accelerate both development and commercialization. We expect to build on the strong demand we generated in 2025.
Dave Huml: We expect our AMR revenue to reach approximately $250 million by 2028, reflecting our confidence in the technology, the strength of our portfolio, and our ability to lead the ongoing transformation of this industry. Looking ahead to 2026, our primary focus is on restoring full operating capability in North America and driving steady improvement in efficiency as our system performance strengthens. We expect the challenges associated with the ERP transition to ease through the first half of the year, as we expect reliability improvements, phaseout of manual workarounds, and teams to transition from stabilization to a focus on productivity. At the same time, we are encouraged by the momentum in our autonomous and robotic solutions. The dedicated cross-functional organization we established is positioned to accelerate both development and commercialization. We expect to build on the strong demand we generated in 2025.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead to 2026, our primary focus is on restoring full operating capability in North America and driving steady improvement in efficiency as our system performance strengthens.
Speaker #3: We expect the challenges associated with the ERP transition to ease through the first half of the year, as we expect reliability improvements, phase-out of manual workarounds, and teams to transition from stabilization to a focus on productivity.
Speaker #3: At the same time, we are encouraged by the momentum in our autonomous and robotic solutions. The dedicated cross-functional organization we established is positioned to accelerate both development and commercialization, and we expect to build on the strong demand we generated in 2025.
Speaker #3: We will continue to scale our autonomous portfolio through new product introductions to serve a broader array of vertical market and customer applications. Our efforts also include strategies designed to help customers adopt autonomous solutions more quickly and with greater confidence, which we believe will support higher-value mix and improved margin contribution as adoption grows.
Dave Huml: We will continue to scale our autonomous portfolio through new product introductions to serve a broader array of vertical market and customer applications. Our efforts also include strategies designed to help customers adopt autonomous solutions more quickly and with greater confidence, which we believe will support higher value mix and improved margin contribution as adoption grows. We expect resilient demand across our markets to support performance. Our backlog remains healthy, and commercial activity across global regions continues to show stability. With this foundation, we believe we are well positioned to capture demand and drive growth through new product innovations, strategic pricing, and go-to-market sales and service actions. Based on these drivers, we expect to deliver our 2026 full year guidance, with results weighted toward the back half of the year, as we expect efficiency and throughput to steadily recover.
Dave Huml: We will continue to scale our autonomous portfolio through new product introductions to serve a broader array of vertical market and customer applications. Our efforts also include strategies designed to help customers adopt autonomous solutions more quickly and with greater confidence, which we believe will support higher value mix and improved margin contribution as adoption grows. We expect resilient demand across our markets to support performance. Our backlog remains healthy, and commercial activity across global regions continues to show stability. With this foundation, we believe we are well positioned to capture demand and drive growth through new product innovations, strategic pricing, and go-to-market sales and service actions. Based on these drivers, we expect to deliver our 2026 full year guidance, with results weighted toward the back half of the year, as we expect efficiency and throughput to steadily recover.
Speaker #3: We expect resilient demand across our markets to support performance. Our backlog remains healthy, and commercial activity across global regions continues to show stability. With this foundation, we believe we are well positioned to capture demand and drive growth through new product innovations, strategic pricing, and go-to-market sales and service actions.
Speaker #3: Based on these drivers, we expect to deliver our 2026 full-year guidance with results weighted toward the back half of the year as we expect efficiency and throughput to steadily recover.
Speaker #3: Fay will provide detailed guidance and the full financial outlook in her remarks. So with that, I'll turn the call over to Fay.
Dave Huml: Faye will provide detailed guidance and the full financial outlook in her remarks. With that, I'll turn the call over to Faye.
Dave Huml: Faye will provide detailed guidance and the full financial outlook in her remarks. With that, I'll turn the call over to Faye.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin by addressing the North American ERP transition. We estimate that the ERP disruption reduced fourth-quarter net sales by approximately $30 million.
Fay West: Thank you, Dave. Good morning, everyone. I'll begin by addressing the North American ERP transition. We estimate that the ERP disruption reduced Q4 net sales by approximately $30 million. This impact was distributed, with roughly one-third affecting service, parts, and consumables, and two-thirds impacting equipment sales. We project that half of these sales are unrecoverable, while the remaining portion represents unfulfilled orders that have been added to our backlog. Furthermore, the disruption decreased adjusted EBITDA by approximately $22 million. Incremental costs due to the recovery actions Dave mentioned earlier, combined with reduced operating leverage, disproportionately affected our cost of goods sold and adjusted EBITDA, resulting in the $22 million impact on adjusted EBITDA. The corresponding impact on EPS was approximately $0.91. With that context, I'll now turn to our Q4 and full year financial performance.
Fay West: Thank you, Dave. Good morning, everyone. I'll begin by addressing the North American ERP transition. We estimate that the ERP disruption reduced Q4 net sales by approximately $30 million. This impact was distributed, with roughly one-third affecting service, parts, and consumables, and two-thirds impacting equipment sales. We project that half of these sales are unrecoverable, while the remaining portion represents unfulfilled orders that have been added to our backlog. Furthermore, the disruption decreased adjusted EBITDA by approximately $22 million. Incremental costs due to the recovery actions Dave mentioned earlier, combined with reduced operating leverage, disproportionately affected our cost of goods sold and adjusted EBITDA, resulting in the $22 million impact on adjusted EBITDA. The corresponding impact on EPS was approximately $0.91. With that context, I'll now turn to our Q4 and full year financial performance.
Speaker #1: This impact was distributed with roughly one-third affecting service, parts, and consumables, and two-thirds impacting equipment sales. We project that half of these sales are unrecoverable, while the remaining portion represents unfulfilled orders that have been added to our backlog.
Speaker #1: Furthermore, the disruption decreased adjusted EBITDA by approximately $22 million. Incremental costs due to the recovery actions Dave mentioned earlier, combined with reduced operating leverage, disproportionately affected our cost of goods sold and adjusted EBITDA, resulting in the $22 million impact on adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker #1: The corresponding impact on EPS was approximately $0.91. With that context, I'll now turn to our fourth-quarter and full-year financial performance. In the fourth quarter of 2025, Tennant reported a GAAP net loss of $4.4 million, compared to $6.6 million of net income in the prior-year period.
Fay West: In Q4 2025, Tennant reported a GAAP net loss of $4.4 million, compared to $6.6 million of net income in the prior year period. Full year 2025 GAAP net income was $43.8 million, down from $83.7 million in 2024. For the full year, net income was primarily impacted by a 6.5% decrease in net sales and a contraction in gross margin. These results reflect a combination of factors, including a decrease in volume, partly attributable to the comparison against the prior year's significant backlog reduction benefit, as well as margin pressures stemming from product mix, higher material costs, and unanticipated challenges associated with our ERP transition that outpaced our pricing and cost reduction initiatives and lower operating expenses.
Fay West: In Q4 2025, Tennant reported a GAAP net loss of $4.4 million, compared to $6.6 million of net income in the prior year period. Full year 2025 GAAP net income was $43.8 million, down from $83.7 million in 2024. For the full year, net income was primarily impacted by a 6.5% decrease in net sales and a contraction in gross margin. These results reflect a combination of factors, including a decrease in volume, partly attributable to the comparison against the prior year's significant backlog reduction benefit, as well as margin pressures stemming from product mix, higher material costs, and unanticipated challenges associated with our ERP transition that outpaced our pricing and cost reduction initiatives and lower operating expenses.
Speaker #1: Full-year 2025 gap net income was 43.8 million dollars, down from 83.7 million dollars in 2024. For the full year, net income was primarily impacted by a 6.5% decrease in net sales and a contraction in gross margin.
Speaker #1: These results reflect a combination of factors, including a decrease in volumes, partly attributable to the comparison against the prior year's significant backlog reduction benefit, as well as margin pressures stemming from product mix higher material costs and unanticipated challenges associated with our ERP transition that outpaced our pricing and cost reduction initiatives and lower operating expenses.
Speaker #1: Operating expenses decreased year over year due to lower compensation-related costs and reductions in certain legal, integration, and restructuring expenses. This was partially offset by higher ERP spending and an increase in bad debt expense.
Fay West: Operating expenses decreased year over year due to lower compensation-related costs and reductions in certain legal, integration, and restructuring expenses. This was partially offset by higher ERP spending and an increase in bad debt expense. On a full year basis, interest expense and our average interest rates, net of hedging, were comparable year over year. Interest expense was higher in the Q4 due to higher average debt balances. Our effective tax rate for the full year was 24.3%, up from 20.1% in 2024. This increase was primarily due to the non-recurrence of certain non-cash discrete items from 2024. Looking at adjusted EPS, excluding non-GAAP costs, adjusted EPS for the Q4 was $0.48 per diluted share, down from $1.52 per diluted share in 2024.
Fay West: Operating expenses decreased year over year due to lower compensation-related costs and reductions in certain legal, integration, and restructuring expenses. This was partially offset by higher ERP spending and an increase in bad debt expense. On a full year basis, interest expense and our average interest rates, net of hedging, were comparable year over year. Interest expense was higher in the Q4 due to higher average debt balances. Our effective tax rate for the full year was 24.3%, up from 20.1% in 2024. This increase was primarily due to the non-recurrence of certain non-cash discrete items from 2024. Looking at adjusted EPS, excluding non-GAAP costs, adjusted EPS for the Q4 was $0.48 per diluted share, down from $1.52 per diluted share in 2024.
Speaker #1: On a full-year basis, interest expense and our average interest rates net of hedging were comparable year over year. Interest expense was higher in the fourth quarter due to higher average debt balances.
Speaker #1: Our effective tax rate for the full year was 24.3%, up from 20.1% in 2024. This increase was primarily due to the non-recurrence of certain non-cash discrete items from 2024.
Speaker #1: Looking at adjusted EPS, excluding non-GAAP costs, adjusted EPS for the fourth quarter was $0.48 per diluted share, down from $1.52 per diluted share in 2024.
Speaker #1: For the full year 2025, adjusted EPS was $4.57 per diluted share, down from $6.57 in 2024. I'll provide more detail on these non-gap costs.
Fay West: For the full year 2025, adjusted EPS was $4.57 per diluted share, down from $6.57 in 2024. I'll provide more detail on these non-GAAP costs. Our ERP modernization program in 2025 involved both planned investment and unforeseen operational impact. We invested a total of $59.1 million, comprising of $30.6 million capitalized and $28.5 million expense, as we advanced our new ERP platform. As we shared, the North American go-live in the first week of November led to unexpected stabilization costs. These costs are distinct from our ongoing ERP modernization investment and contributed to the Q4 margin pressure. Separately, we recorded $6.4 million of restructuring charges associated with our global workforce reorganization and expect approximately $10 million of annual savings benefits beginning in 2026.
Fay West: For the full year 2025, adjusted EPS was $4.57 per diluted share, down from $6.57 in 2024. I'll provide more detail on these non-GAAP costs. Our ERP modernization program in 2025 involved both planned investment and unforeseen operational impact. We invested a total of $59.1 million, comprising of $30.6 million capitalized and $28.5 million expense, as we advanced our new ERP platform. As we shared, the North American go-live in the first week of November led to unexpected stabilization costs. These costs are distinct from our ongoing ERP modernization investment and contributed to the Q4 margin pressure. Separately, we recorded $6.4 million of restructuring charges associated with our global workforce reorganization and expect approximately $10 million of annual savings benefits beginning in 2026.
Speaker #1: Our ERP modernization program in 2025 involved both planned investment and unforeseen operational impact. We invested a total of $59.1 million, comprising $30.6 million capitalized and $28.5 million expensed, as we advanced our new ERP platform.
Speaker #1: As we shared, the North American go-live in the first week of November led to unexpected stabilization costs. These costs are distinct from our ongoing ERP modernization investment and contributed to the fourth quarter margin pressure.
Speaker #1: Separately, we recorded 6.4 million dollars of restructuring charges associated with our global workforce reorganization, an expected approximately $10 million of annual savings benefits beginning in 2026.
Speaker #1: Our 2025 results also reflect an updated legal contingency for the OWT intellectual property dispute. In September of 2025, a post-trial ruling increased damages by 30%, raising the total judgment to approximately $20.2 million.
Fay West: Our 2025 results also reflect an updated legal contingency for the OWT intellectual property dispute. In September 2025, a post-trial ruling increased damages by 30%, raising the total judgment to approximately $20.2 million. Consequently, we recorded an incremental accrued expense of $6 million in 2025. We have appealed aspects of this ruling, and this development does not impact our ability to sell any of our products and is not expected to affect our long-term financial performance. Let's now look at our quarterly results in more detail. For the Q4 2025, consolidated net sales totaled $291.6 million, an 11.3% decrease compared to $328.9 million in the Q4 2024. On a constant currency basis, organic sales declined 13.9%.
Fay West: Our 2025 results also reflect an updated legal contingency for the OWT intellectual property dispute. In September 2025, a post-trial ruling increased damages by 30%, raising the total judgment to approximately $20.2 million. Consequently, we recorded an incremental accrued expense of $6 million in 2025. We have appealed aspects of this ruling, and this development does not impact our ability to sell any of our products and is not expected to affect our long-term financial performance. Let's now look at our quarterly results in more detail. For the Q4 2025, consolidated net sales totaled $291.6 million, an 11.3% decrease compared to $328.9 million in the Q4 2024. On a constant currency basis, organic sales declined 13.9%.
Speaker #1: Consequently, we recorded an incremental accrued expense of $6 million in 2025. We have appealed aspects of this ruling, and this development does not impact our ability to sell any of our products and is not expected to affect our long-term financial performance.
Speaker #1: Let's now look at our quarterly results in more detail. For the fourth quarter of 2025, consolidated net sales totaled $291.6 million. An $11.3% decrease compared to $328.9 million in the fourth quarter of 2024.
Speaker #1: On a constant currency basis, organic sales declined 13.9%. This decrease was primarily driven by a 22.3% organic sales decline in the Americas, mainly due to the North America ERP implementation impact of $30 million on net sales.
Fay West: This decrease was primarily driven by a 22.3% organic sales decline in the Americas, mainly due to the North America ERP implementation impact of $30 million on net sales, as well as volume declines in Latin America across equipment, parts, and consumables. These North American challenges were compounded by softer underlying demand in the industrial and aftermarket businesses. Despite these pressures in the Americas, the decline was partially offset by a 3% increase in organic sales in EMEA, driven by equipment volume growth in France, the UK, and Spain, and an 11% increase in organic sales in APAC, fueled by volume growth in Australia, China, South Korea, and India across both industrial and commercial equipment. Continued price realization in the Americas also provided a partial offset.
Fay West: This decrease was primarily driven by a 22.3% organic sales decline in the Americas, mainly due to the North America ERP implementation impact of $30 million on net sales, as well as volume declines in Latin America across equipment, parts, and consumables. These North American challenges were compounded by softer underlying demand in the industrial and aftermarket businesses. Despite these pressures in the Americas, the decline was partially offset by a 3% increase in organic sales in EMEA, driven by equipment volume growth in France, the UK, and Spain, and an 11% increase in organic sales in APAC, fueled by volume growth in Australia, China, South Korea, and India across both industrial and commercial equipment. Continued price realization in the Americas also provided a partial offset.
Speaker #1: As well as volume declines in Latin America, across equipment, parts, and consumables. These North American challenges were compounded by softer, underlying demands in the industrial and aftermarket businesses.
Speaker #1: Despite these pressures in the Americas, the decline was partially offset by a 3% increase in organic sales in EMEA, driven by equipment volume growth in France, the UK, and Spain, and an 11% increase in organic sales in APAC, fueled by volume growth in Australia, China, South Korea, and India, across both industrial and commercial equipment.
Speaker #1: Continued price realization in the Americas also provided a partial offset. Although December showed improvement as recovery efforts took hold, we were unable to fully recover the impact of the November disruptions.
Fay West: Although December showed improvement as recovery efforts took hold, we were unable to fully recover the impact of the November disruptions. adjusted EBITDA for Q4 2025 was $25.6 million, a decrease of $21.8 million from the prior year period, and includes the approximately $22 million negative impact from the ERP implementation. Gross margin in Q4 came under pressure from several key areas. The most significant factor was the ERP transition, which resulted in an estimated thirteen and a half million dollars volume impact and approximately eight and a half million dollars in incremental costs and deleverage. We also faced additional headwinds from higher material costs due to unmitigated tariff costs and other inflationary pressures, particularly affecting our LIFO reserve.
Fay West: Although December showed improvement as recovery efforts took hold, we were unable to fully recover the impact of the November disruptions. adjusted EBITDA for Q4 2025 was $25.6 million, a decrease of $21.8 million from the prior year period, and includes the approximately $22 million negative impact from the ERP implementation. Gross margin in Q4 came under pressure from several key areas. The most significant factor was the ERP transition, which resulted in an estimated thirteen and a half million dollars volume impact and approximately eight and a half million dollars in incremental costs and deleverage. We also faced additional headwinds from higher material costs due to unmitigated tariff costs and other inflationary pressures, particularly affecting our LIFO reserve.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter of 2025 was 25.6 million dollars, a decrease of 21.8 million dollars from the prior year period, and includes the approximately $22 million negative impact from the ERP implementation.
Speaker #1: Gross margin in the fourth quarter came under pressure from several key areas. The most significant factor was the ERP transition, which resulted in an estimated $13.5 million volume impact, an approximately $8.5 million in incremental costs and de-leverage.
Speaker #1: We also faced additional headwinds from higher material costs due to unmitigated tariff costs and other inflationary pressures, particularly affecting our LIFO reserve. This was further compounded by roughly $4.5 million in other charges for the quarter, including inventory write-downs.
Fay West: This was further compounded by roughly four and a half million dollars in other charges for the quarter, including inventory write-downs. These pressures were partially mitigated by positive contributions from price realization and favorable foreign exchange. Adjusted S&A expense was $10.4 million lower in the quarter, primarily due to lower compensation-related costs. As a percentage of net sales, adjusted S&A improved slightly to 27.3% from 27.4% in the prior year period. Moving on to full year results. For the full year 2025, consolidated net sales were $1,203.5 million, a 6.5% decrease compared to the $1,286.7 million in 2024. On a constant currency basis, organic sales declined 7.3%.
Fay West: This was further compounded by roughly four and a half million dollars in other charges for the quarter, including inventory write-downs. These pressures were partially mitigated by positive contributions from price realization and favorable foreign exchange. Adjusted S&A expense was $10.4 million lower in the quarter, primarily due to lower compensation-related costs. As a percentage of net sales, adjusted S&A improved slightly to 27.3% from 27.4% in the prior year period. Moving on to full year results. For the full year 2025, consolidated net sales were $1,203.5 million, a 6.5% decrease compared to the $1,286.7 million in 2024. On a constant currency basis, organic sales declined 7.3%.
Speaker #1: These pressures were partially mitigated by positive contributions from price realization and favorable foreign exchange. Adjusted estimated expense was 10.4 million dollars lower in the quarter, primarily due to lower compensation-related costs, as a percentage of net sales adjusted S&A improved slightly to 27.3% from 27.4% in the prior year period.
Speaker #1: Moving on to full year results. For the full year 2025, consolidated net sales were $1,203.5 million. A 6.5% decrease compared to the $1,286.7 million in 2024.
Speaker #1: On a constant currency basis, organic sales declined 7.3%. This decline was primarily driven by lower North American volumes. Influenced by the lapping of the prior year's significant backlog reduction, and softer industrial demand in the second half, alongside the late-year impact of the ERP transition.
Fay West: This decline was primarily driven by lower North American volumes, influenced by the lapping of the prior year's significant backlog reduction and softer industrial demand in the second half, alongside the late year impact of the ERP transition. Net sales in the Americas consequently decreased 10.9% or 10.5% on an organic basis. In contrast, net sales in EMEA increased 5.1%, benefiting from a favorable foreign currency exchange impact and modest organic growth of 0.5%, driven by price realization. The Asia Pacific region experienced a 3.5% decrease in net sales, or 2.2% on an organic basis, predominantly due to pricing actions and softer underlying demand in China, Japan, and South Korea, though partially offset by volume growth in Australia and India. Across all revenue components, service grew 4.7%.
Fay West: This decline was primarily driven by lower North American volumes, influenced by the lapping of the prior year's significant backlog reduction and softer industrial demand in the second half, alongside the late year impact of the ERP transition. Net sales in the Americas consequently decreased 10.9% or 10.5% on an organic basis. In contrast, net sales in EMEA increased 5.1%, benefiting from a favorable foreign currency exchange impact and modest organic growth of 0.5%, driven by price realization. The Asia Pacific region experienced a 3.5% decrease in net sales, or 2.2% on an organic basis, predominantly due to pricing actions and softer underlying demand in China, Japan, and South Korea, though partially offset by volume growth in Australia and India. Across all revenue components, service grew 4.7%.
Speaker #1: Net sales in the Americas consequently decreased 10.9% or 10.5% on an organic basis. In contrast, net sales in EMEA increased 5.1%, benefiting from a favorable foreign currency exchange impact, and modest organic growth of 0.5%, driven by price realization.
Speaker #1: The Asia-Pacific region experienced a 3.5% decrease in net sales or 2.2% on an organic basis, predominantly due to pricing actions and softer underlying demand in China, Japan, and South Korea, though partially offset by volume growth in Australia and India.
Speaker #1: Across all revenue components, service grew 4.7%, parts and consumables were modestly higher, while equipment sales declined 11.6% year over year. These factors were partially offset by continued price realization, particularly in the Americas and EMEA.
Fay West: Parts and consumables were modestly higher, while equipment sales declined 11.6% year-over-year. These factors were partially offset by continued price realization, particularly in the Americas and EMEA. Adjusted EBITDA for the full year 2025 was $167.4 million, a decrease of $41.4 million from the prior year, primarily due to decreased operating performance in Q4. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 13.9% in 2025, a 230 basis point decrease from the prior year period. Full year 2025 growth margin decreased to 40.2%, a 250 basis point decline compared to 2024. The decline was primarily driven by lower volume and unfavorable mix. It also reflects the cumulative impact of the Q4 factors that I just discussed.
Fay West: Parts and consumables were modestly higher, while equipment sales declined 11.6% year-over-year. These factors were partially offset by continued price realization, particularly in the Americas and EMEA. Adjusted EBITDA for the full year 2025 was $167.4 million, a decrease of $41.4 million from the prior year, primarily due to decreased operating performance in Q4. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 13.9% in 2025, a 230 basis point decrease from the prior year period. Full year 2025 growth margin decreased to 40.2%, a 250 basis point decline compared to 2024. The decline was primarily driven by lower volume and unfavorable mix. It also reflects the cumulative impact of the Q4 factors that I just discussed.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA for the full year was $167.4 million, a decrease of $41.4 million from the prior year, primarily due to decreased operating performance in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA margin was 13.9% in 2025, a 230 basis point decrease from the prior year period. Full year 2025 gross margin decreased to 40.2%, a 250 basis point decline compared to 2024.
Speaker #1: The decline was primarily driven by lower volume and unfavorable mix. It also reflects the cumulative impact of the fourth quarter factors that I just discussed.
Speaker #1: Collectively, these significant headwinds, more than offset the benefits derived from our pricing actions and our cost-out initiatives. Adjusted S&A expense of $330 million decreased 22.1 million dollars from 2024, primarily due to lower compensation-related costs and by the impact of the cost reduction initiatives implemented at the beginning of the year.
Fay West: Collectively, these significant headwinds more than offset the benefits derived from our pricing actions and our cost out initiatives. adjusted S&A expense of $330 million decreased $22.1 million from 2024, primarily due to lower compensation-related costs and by the impact of the cost reduction initiatives implemented at the beginning of the year, partially offset by the effect of foreign currency and increased bad debt expense. adjusted S&A expense as a percentage of net sales increased 30 basis points to 27.7% in 2025, which was primarily due to net sales deleverage. Turning now to capital deployment. In 2025, Tennant generated $65 million in cash flow from operations, compared to $89.7 million in 2024. The decrease was primarily driven by lower operating performance, increased ERP expenditures, and higher working capital consumption.
Fay West: Collectively, these significant headwinds more than offset the benefits derived from our pricing actions and our cost out initiatives. adjusted S&A expense of $330 million decreased $22.1 million from 2024, primarily due to lower compensation-related costs and by the impact of the cost reduction initiatives implemented at the beginning of the year, partially offset by the effect of foreign currency and increased bad debt expense. adjusted S&A expense as a percentage of net sales increased 30 basis points to 27.7% in 2025, which was primarily due to net sales deleverage. Turning now to capital deployment. In 2025, Tennant generated $65 million in cash flow from operations, compared to $89.7 million in 2024. The decrease was primarily driven by lower operating performance, increased ERP expenditures, and higher working capital consumption.
Speaker #1: Partially offset by the effect of foreign currency, an increased bad debt expense. Adjusted S&A expense is a percentage of net sales increased 30 basis points to 27.7% in 2025, which was primarily due to net sales de-leverage.
Speaker #1: Turning now to capital deployment. In 2025, TENNANT generated $65 million in cash flow from operations compared to 89.7 million dollars in 2024. The decrease was primarily driven by lower operating performance, increased ERP expenditures, and higher working capital consumption.
Speaker #1: Despite these factors, we delivered $43.3 million in free cash flow, including the $59.1 million investment in the ERP project. Excluding these ERP-related cash flows, our performance translated into a 157% conversion of net income to free cash flow in 2025.
Fay West: Despite these factors, we delivered $43.3 million in free cash flow, including the $59.1 million investment in the ERP project. Excluding these ERP-related cash flows, our performance translated into 157% conversion of net income to free cash flow in 2025. Our liquidity remains strong, with $106.4 million in cash and cash equivalents at the end of 2025, complemented by $374.3 million of unused borrowing capacity under our revolving credit facility. We remain committed to our disciplined capital allocation strategy, which balances strategic investments in our business with a strong focus on returning capital to shareholders.... In 2025, we invested $21.7 million in capital expenditures to support our operational needs.
Fay West: Despite these factors, we delivered $43.3 million in free cash flow, including the $59.1 million investment in the ERP project. Excluding these ERP-related cash flows, our performance translated into 157% conversion of net income to free cash flow in 2025. Our liquidity remains strong, with $106.4 million in cash and cash equivalents at the end of 2025, complemented by $374.3 million of unused borrowing capacity under our revolving credit facility. We remain committed to our disciplined capital allocation strategy, which balances strategic investments in our business with a strong focus on returning capital to shareholders.... In 2025, we invested $21.7 million in capital expenditures to support our operational needs.
Speaker #1: Our liquidity remained strong, with $106.4 million in cash and cash equivalents at the end of 2025, complemented by $374.3 million of unused borrowing capacity under our revolving credit facility.
Speaker #1: We remain committed to our disciplined capital allocation strategy, which balances strategic investments in our business with a strong focus on returning capital to shareholders.
Speaker #1: In 2025, we invested $21.7 million in capital expenditures to support our operational needs. Most notably, we returned a substantial $110.4 million to our shareholders.
Fay West: Most notably, we returned a substantial $110.4 million to our shareholders. This includes $21.9 million in dividends and a significant $88.5 million in share repurchases, representing approximately 6% of our outstanding stock. This aggressive share repurchase program underscores our commitment to enhancing shareholder value. Our net leverage ratio stands at 1x adjusted EBITDA, which is within our targeted range of 1x to 2x. We continue to evaluate and pursue M&A opportunities to enhance shareholder value. However, if there are no significant and imminent M&A opportunities, our priority is to return capital to shareholders through ongoing share repurchases and dividends. Moving to guidance. As we look ahead to 2026, we expect the overall macroeconomic backdrop and demand environment to remain broadly consistent with the conditions experienced in 2025.
Fay West: Most notably, we returned a substantial $110.4 million to our shareholders. This includes $21.9 million in dividends and a significant $88.5 million in share repurchases, representing approximately 6% of our outstanding stock. This aggressive share repurchase program underscores our commitment to enhancing shareholder value. Our net leverage ratio stands at 1x adjusted EBITDA, which is within our targeted range of 1x to 2x. We continue to evaluate and pursue M&A opportunities to enhance shareholder value. However, if there are no significant and imminent M&A opportunities, our priority is to return capital to shareholders through ongoing share repurchases and dividends. Moving to guidance. As we look ahead to 2026, we expect the overall macroeconomic backdrop and demand environment to remain broadly consistent with the conditions experienced in 2025.
Speaker #1: This includes $21.9 million in dividends and a significant $88.5 million in share repurchases, representing approximately 6% of our outstanding stock. This aggressive share repurchase program underscores our commitment to enhancing shareholder value.
Speaker #1: Our net leverage ratio stands at 1 times adjusted EBITDA, which is within our targeted range of 1 to 2 times. We continue to evaluate and pursue M&A opportunities to enhance shareholder value.
Speaker #1: However, if there are no significant and imminent M&A opportunities, our priority is to return capital to shareholders through ongoing share repurchases and dividends. Moving to guidance.
Speaker #1: As we look ahead to 2026, we expect the overall macroeconomic backdrop and demand environment to remain broadly consistent with the conditions experienced in 2025.
Speaker #1: That being said, our guidance was formulated prior to last week's news regarding the Supreme Court's ruling on tariffs. As a result, we will need time to digest how the news may impact our contemplated guidance.
Fay West: That being said, our guidance was formulated prior to last week's news regarding the Supreme Court's ruling on tariffs. As a result, we will need time to digest how the news may impact our contemplated guidance. We are confident in our ability to manage near-term uncertainties while also capitalizing on the opportunities ahead. As we have additional updates here to share, we will do so in due course. In North America, ERP-related operational challenges that arose in Q4 2025 are expected to continue early in the year. As part of our recovery efforts, we conducted a comprehensive physical inventory that required a two-week shutdown of our manufacturing and distribution facilities in early January, which will significantly affect Q1 sales and costs.
Fay West: That being said, our guidance was formulated prior to last week's news regarding the Supreme Court's ruling on tariffs. As a result, we will need time to digest how the news may impact our contemplated guidance. We are confident in our ability to manage near-term uncertainties while also capitalizing on the opportunities ahead. As we have additional updates here to share, we will do so in due course. In North America, ERP-related operational challenges that arose in Q4 2025 are expected to continue early in the year. As part of our recovery efforts, we conducted a comprehensive physical inventory that required a two-week shutdown of our manufacturing and distribution facilities in early January, which will significantly affect Q1 sales and costs.
Speaker #1: We are confident in our ability to manage near-term uncertainties while also capitalizing on the opportunities ahead. As we have additional updates to share here, we will do so in due course.
Speaker #1: In North America, ERP-related operational challenges that arose in the fourth quarter of 2025 are expected to continue early in the year. As part of our recovery efforts, we conducted a comprehensive physical inventory that required a two-week shutdown of our manufacturing and distribution facilities in early January, which will significantly affect first-quarter sales and costs.
Speaker #1: Furthermore, we expect to operate below optimal efficiency as the new system stabilizes, leading to elevated costs and compressed margins, most notably in the first quarter.
Fay West: Furthermore, we expect to operate below optimal efficiency as the new system stabilizes, leading to elevated costs and compressed margins, most notably in Q1. We project a return to a more normalized and efficient operating rhythm by mid-year, underpinned by ongoing process refinements and productivity initiatives. At the same time, we expect continued growth margin pressure from the tariffs implemented during the second half of 2025. We have implemented targeted cost-out initiatives across both our supply chain and commercial pricing processes to help mitigate these impacts. Against this backdrop, we expect margin performance to improve gradually through the year, beginning with a Q1 that is generally aligned with the run rate levels we saw in Q4 of 2025, followed by progressive expansion as operational momentum builds.
Fay West: Furthermore, we expect to operate below optimal efficiency as the new system stabilizes, leading to elevated costs and compressed margins, most notably in Q1. We project a return to a more normalized and efficient operating rhythm by mid-year, underpinned by ongoing process refinements and productivity initiatives. At the same time, we expect continued growth margin pressure from the tariffs implemented during the second half of 2025. We have implemented targeted cost-out initiatives across both our supply chain and commercial pricing processes to help mitigate these impacts. Against this backdrop, we expect margin performance to improve gradually through the year, beginning with a Q1 that is generally aligned with the run rate levels we saw in Q4 of 2025, followed by progressive expansion as operational momentum builds.
Speaker #1: We project a return to a more normalized and efficient operating rhythm by mid-year. Underpinned by ongoing process refinement and productivity initiatives, at the same time, we expect continued gross margin pressure from the tariffs implemented during the second half of 2025.
Speaker #1: We have implemented targeted cost-out initiatives across both our supply chain and commercial pricing processes to help mitigate these impacts. Against this backdrop, we expect margin performance to improve gradually through the year, beginning with a first quarter that is generally aligned with the run-rate levels we saw in the fourth quarter of 2025, followed by progressive expansion as operational momentum builds.
Speaker #1: For 2026, TENNANT provides the following guidance. We project net sales to be in the range of $1.24 billion to $1.28 billion, reflecting organic sales growth of 3 to 6 and a half percent.
Fay West: For 2026, Tennant provides the following guidance: We project net sales to be in the range of $1.24 billion to $1.28 billion, reflecting organic sales growth of 3% to 6.5%. At the midpoint of this range, we anticipate sales growth will be driven by approximately 25% pricing actions and approximately 75% by volume increases. Notably, our volume forecast accounts for the Q1 impact from lost sales due to the physical inventory shutdown, which we expect to be partially offset by a drawdown of our existing backlog. We anticipate an increase in sales performance from the first half to the second half of the year, and we expect to see mid-single digit growth in each of our geographies. We also expect our robotics and autonomous solutions to remain a source of momentum.
Fay West: For 2026, Tennant provides the following guidance: We project net sales to be in the range of $1.24 billion to $1.28 billion, reflecting organic sales growth of 3% to 6.5%. At the midpoint of this range, we anticipate sales growth will be driven by approximately 25% pricing actions and approximately 75% by volume increases. Notably, our volume forecast accounts for the Q1 impact from lost sales due to the physical inventory shutdown, which we expect to be partially offset by a drawdown of our existing backlog. We anticipate an increase in sales performance from the first half to the second half of the year, and we expect to see mid-single digit growth in each of our geographies. We also expect our robotics and autonomous solutions to remain a source of momentum.
Speaker #1: At the midpoint of this range, we anticipate sales growth will be driven by approximately 25% pricing actions and approximately 75% by volume increases. Notably, our volume forecast accounts for the first quarter impact from lost sales due to the physical inventory shutdown, which we expect to be partially offset by a drawdown of our existing backlog.
Speaker #1: We anticipate an increase in sales performance from the first half to the second half of the year, and we expect to see mid-single-digit growth in each of our geographies.
Speaker #1: We also expect our robotics and autonomous solutions to remain a source of momentum. For 2026, we project adjusted EBITDA in the range of $175 million to $190 million.
Fay West: For 2026, we project adjusted EBITDA in the range of $175 million to 190 million, with an adjusted EBITDA margin between 14.1% and 14.8%. This outlook is based on a year-over-year increase in net sales and an anticipated improvement in gross margin. The growth margin expansion is expected to result from a more normalized return to our favorable product mix, balancing industrial and commercial products with parts and consumables, as well as an optimized customer mix. These factors, coupled with ongoing cost savings initiatives and strategic pricing actions, are expected to drive profitability. Our guidance also reflects the full year impact of known tariffs at this time. Our guidance does include an increase in absolute spending for S&A and R&D, and includes flowing incremental resources towards accelerating our robotics growth and advancing other critical strategic initiatives.
Fay West: For 2026, we project adjusted EBITDA in the range of $175 million to 190 million, with an adjusted EBITDA margin between 14.1% and 14.8%. This outlook is based on a year-over-year increase in net sales and an anticipated improvement in gross margin. The growth margin expansion is expected to result from a more normalized return to our favorable product mix, balancing industrial and commercial products with parts and consumables, as well as an optimized customer mix. These factors, coupled with ongoing cost savings initiatives and strategic pricing actions, are expected to drive profitability. Our guidance also reflects the full year impact of known tariffs at this time. Our guidance does include an increase in absolute spending for S&A and R&D, and includes flowing incremental resources towards accelerating our robotics growth and advancing other critical strategic initiatives.
Speaker #1: With an adjusted EBITDA margin between 14.1% and 14.8%. This outlook is based on a year-over-year increase in net sales and an anticipated improvement in gross margin.
Speaker #1: The gross margin expansion is expected to result from a more normalized return to our favorable product mix. Balancing industrial and commercial products with parts and consumables, as well as an optimized customer mix.
Speaker #1: These factors, coupled with ongoing cost savings initiatives and strategic pricing actions, are expected to drive profitability. Our guidance also reflects the full-year impact of known tariffs at this time.
Speaker #1: Our guidance does include an increase in absolute spending for S&A and R&D and includes slowing incremental resources towards accelerating our robotics growth and advancing other critical strategic initiatives.
Speaker #1: We anticipate that S&A and R&D as a percentage of sales will be comparable to 2025 percentages. Additionally, we are guiding to an adjusted EPS of $4.70 to $5.30 per diluted share excluding ERP project costs and amortization expense.
Fay West: We anticipate that S&A and R&D as a percentage of sales will be comparable to 2025 percentages. Additionally, we are guiding to an adjusted EPS of $4.70 to $5.30 per diluted share, excluding ERP project costs and amortization expense. This projected year-over-year increase reflects improved operating performance, which we anticipate will be partially offset by higher interest costs and an increase in our effective tax rate. We expect our adjusted effective tax rate to be between 24% and 29%, also excluding ERP project costs and amortization expense. With that, I will turn the call back to Dave.
Fay West: We anticipate that S&A and R&D as a percentage of sales will be comparable to 2025 percentages. Additionally, we are guiding to an adjusted EPS of $4.70 to $5.30 per diluted share, excluding ERP project costs and amortization expense. This projected year-over-year increase reflects improved operating performance, which we anticipate will be partially offset by higher interest costs and an increase in our effective tax rate. We expect our adjusted effective tax rate to be between 24% and 29%, also excluding ERP project costs and amortization expense. With that, I will turn the call back to Dave.
Speaker #1: This projected year-over-year increase reflects improved operating performance, which we anticipate will be partially offset by higher interest costs and an increase in our effective tax rate.
Speaker #1: We expect our adjusted effective tax rate to be between 24 and 29 percent, also excluding ERP project costs and amortization expense. With that, I will turn the call back to Dave.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Fay. Before we move into Q&A, I want to close with a simple message. This quarter clearly reflected the impact of the North America ERP transition.
Dave Huml: Thank you, Fay. Before we move into Q&A, I want to close with a simple message. This quarter clearly reflected the impact of the North America ERP transition, but our teams responded with urgency, discipline, and a clear commitment to our customers. Because of this, we've stabilized the most critical issues, and we believe we have a defined path back to normal operating rhythm as we move through the first half of 2026. At the same time, the underlying fundamentals of our business remain strong. Our global teams delivered solid execution throughout 2025, our balance sheet is healthy, and the momentum in our autonomous and robotics portfolio continues to build. These strengths, combined with the disciplined capital deployment and focused operational recovery, give us confidence in delivering our 2026 outlook.
Dave Huml: Thank you, Fay. Before we move into Q&A, I want to close with a simple message. This quarter clearly reflected the impact of the North America ERP transition, but our teams responded with urgency, discipline, and a clear commitment to our customers. Because of this, we've stabilized the most critical issues, and we believe we have a defined path back to normal operating rhythm as we move through the first half of 2026. At the same time, the underlying fundamentals of our business remain strong. Our global teams delivered solid execution throughout 2025, our balance sheet is healthy, and the momentum in our autonomous and robotics portfolio continues to build. These strengths, combined with the disciplined capital deployment and focused operational recovery, give us confidence in delivering our 2026 outlook.
Speaker #1: But our team's responded with urgency, discipline, and a clear commitment to our customers. Because of this, we've stabilized the most critical issues and we believe we have a defined path back to normal operating rhythm as we move through the first half of 2026.
Speaker #1: At the same time, the underlying fundamentals of our business remain strong. Our global teams delivered solid execution throughout 2025. Our balance sheet is healthy, and the momentum in our autonomous and robotics portfolio continues to build.
Speaker #1: These strengths, combined with the disciplined capital deployment and focused operational recovery, give us confidence in delivering our 2026 outlook. We are fully committed to strengthening our operational foundation and advancing the strategic initiatives that support growth and shareholder value creation.
Dave Huml: We are fully committed to strengthening our operational foundation and advancing the strategic initiatives that support growth and shareholder value creation. I'm proud of the resilience of our team, grateful for the continued partnership of our customers, and confident in the opportunities ahead. With that, we'll open the call to questions. Operator, please go ahead.
Dave Huml: We are fully committed to strengthening our operational foundation and advancing the strategic initiatives that support growth and shareholder value creation. I'm proud of the resilience of our team, grateful for the continued partnership of our customers, and confident in the opportunities ahead. With that, we'll open the call to questions. Operator, please go ahead.
Speaker #1: I'm proud of the resilience of our team, grateful for the continued partnership of our customers, and confident in the opportunities ahead. With that, we'll open the call to questions.
Speaker #1: Operator, please go ahead.
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Speaker #1: Hey, good morning, everyone.
Tom Hayes: Hey, good morning, everyone.
Tom Hayes: Hey, good morning, everyone.
Speaker #3: Good morning, Tom.
Dave Huml: Good morning, Tom.
Dave Huml: Good morning, Tom.
Speaker #1: Hey, Dave, I just wanted to I guess first appreciate all the color on the ERP system implementation. Maybe you just wanted to circle back on two questions.
Tom Hayes: Hey, Dave, I just wanted to, I guess, first, appreciate all the color on the ERP system, implementation. Maybe just wanted to circle back on two questions. One, you didn't want to put words in your mouth, but would you call the system stable these days as you were kind of moving into the, you know, end of February, March time period?
Tom Hayes: Hey, Dave, I just wanted to, I guess, first, appreciate all the color on the ERP system, implementation. Maybe just wanted to circle back on two questions. One, you didn't want to put words in your mouth, but would you call the system stable these days as you were kind of moving into the, you know, end of February, March time period?
Speaker #1: One, you didn’t want to put words in your mouth, but would you call the system stable these days as you were kind of moving into the end of February, March time period?
Speaker #3: Hey, I appreciate the question. And we did strive for transparency in our comments to make sure that everyone was well-informed about what we've been through in Q4, and probably put a bit more color on Q1 than we normally would, given the impact of the ERP transition.
Dave Huml: Hey, I appreciate the question. We did strive for transparency in our comments to make sure that everyone was well informed about what we've been through in Q4, and probably put a bit more color on Q1 than we normally would, given the impact of the ERP transition. We're stable in terms of our big five processes. You know, as a manufacturing business, we've got to be able to book orders, build, ship, invoice, and collect. We are capable of transacting across that range of capabilities. What we are working through now is, I would call, you know, the remnants of stability and efficiency, being able to operate at efficiency and our people getting used to using the new system.
Dave Huml: Hey, I appreciate the question. We did strive for transparency in our comments to make sure that everyone was well informed about what we've been through in Q4, and probably put a bit more color on Q1 than we normally would, given the impact of the ERP transition. We're stable in terms of our big five processes. You know, as a manufacturing business, we've got to be able to book orders, build, ship, invoice, and collect. We are capable of transacting across that range of capabilities. What we are working through now is, I would call, you know, the remnants of stability and efficiency, being able to operate at efficiency and our people getting used to using the new system.
Speaker #3: We are stable in terms of our big five processes. As a manufacturing business, we've got to be able to book orders, build, ship, invoice, and collect.
Speaker #3: And we are capable of transacting across that range of capabilities. What we are working through now is, I would call, the remnants of stability and efficiency, being able to operate at efficiency and our people getting used to using the new system.
Speaker #3: So, in comparison to what we experienced in the first three weeks of November, where we were unable to enter orders in the system—yes, yes, Tom—I would say we are far more stable.
Dave Huml: If in comparison to what we experienced in the first three weeks of November, where we were unable to enter orders in the system, yes, Tom, I would say we are far more stable.
Dave Huml: If in comparison to what we experienced in the first three weeks of November, where we were unable to enter orders in the system, yes, Tom, I would say we are far more stable.
Speaker #1: Okay. And then, Fay, I think you mentioned of the $30 million impact to sales in the November time frame or fourth quarter time frame, roughly half of that you guys view as unrecoverable?
Tom Hayes: Okay. Fay, I think you mentioned of the $30 million impact to sales in the November time frame or Q4 time frame, roughly half of that you guys view as unrecoverable?
Tom Hayes: Okay. Fay, I think you mentioned of the $30 million impact to sales in the November time frame or Q4 time frame, roughly half of that you guys view as unrecoverable?
Speaker #4: Yeah, and these are estimates and what we consider. So, we've got about $15 million of that in backlog.
Fay West: Yeah, we, these are estimates and what we consider.
Fay West: Yeah, we, these are estimates and what we consider.
Tom Hayes: Yeah.
Tom Hayes: Yeah.
Fay West: We've got about $15 million of that in backlog.
Fay West: We've got about $15 million of that in backlog.
Speaker #1: Okay.
Tom Hayes: Okay.
Tom Hayes: Okay.
Fay West: The other 15, we, you know, it was roughly a third of that $30 million was parts, consumables, and service. We think that that is difficult business to regain and to recover. We think that that's the primary driver of lost revenue in Q4.
Speaker #4: And the other $15 million, we—it was roughly a third of that $30 million—was parts, consumables, and service. And so, we think that that is difficult business to regain.
Fay West: The other 15, we, you know, it was roughly a third of that $30 million was parts, consumables, and service. We think that that is difficult business to regain and to recover. We think that that's the primary driver of lost revenue in Q4.
Speaker #4: And to recover. So we think that that's the primary driver of lost revenue in Q4.
Speaker #1: Okay. Maybe shifting gears a little bit. I think it's really pretty interesting, Dave, is hoping to get a little bit more color on the robotics group and maybe what are some of the FY26 objectives for that group?
Tom Hayes: Okay. Maybe shifting gears a little bit. I think it's really pretty interesting, Dave Huml. I was hoping to get a little bit more color on the robotics group and maybe what are some of the FY 2026 objectives for that group, because I think like you said, that at your closing remarks, there's a lot of momentum in that area right now.
Tom Hayes: Okay. Maybe shifting gears a little bit. I think it's really pretty interesting, Dave Huml. I was hoping to get a little bit more color on the robotics group and maybe what are some of the FY 2026 objectives for that group, because I think like you said, that at your closing remarks, there's a lot of momentum in that area right now.
Speaker #1: Because I think, like you said, that's your closing marks. There's a lot of momentum in that area right now.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Tom. We're really excited about it. Obviously, it's a difficult time for us from an ERP perspective, but we have continued attention and focus on growing the business and specifically in robotics, not every one of the companies is tied up.
Dave Huml: Thanks, thanks, Tom. We're really excited about it. Obviously, it's a difficult time for us from an ERP perspective, but we have continued attention and focus on growing the business and specifically in robotics. Not everyone in the company is tied up, although everyone is impacted in some way, not everyone is tied up trying to solve for the ERP challenges. Really excited about the TNC Robotics venture that we've stood up. We think there's a moment in time now, where I should preface my remarks. We're really proud, and I'm proud of the business that the team has built in robotics to date. This is not a replacement for anything we've been doing. This is an acceleration of our efforts.
Dave Huml: Thanks, thanks, Tom. We're really excited about it. Obviously, it's a difficult time for us from an ERP perspective, but we have continued attention and focus on growing the business and specifically in robotics. Not everyone in the company is tied up, although everyone is impacted in some way, not everyone is tied up trying to solve for the ERP challenges. Really excited about the TNC Robotics venture that we've stood up. We think there's a moment in time now, where I should preface my remarks. We're really proud, and I'm proud of the business that the team has built in robotics to date. This is not a replacement for anything we've been doing. This is an acceleration of our efforts.
Speaker #3: Although everyone is impacted in some way, not everyone is tied up trying to solve for the ERP challenges. Really excited about the T&C Robotics venture that we've stood up.
Speaker #3: We think there's a moment in time now. I should preface my remarks we're really proud and I'm proud of the business that the team has built in robotics to date.
Speaker #3: So this is not a replacement for anything we've been doing. This is an acceleration of our efforts. Since we've started in this business 2019, 2020, we've sold to hundreds of customers globally, 10,000 units deployed.
Dave Huml: You know, since we've started in this business, 2019, 2020, we've sold to hundreds of customers globally, 10,000 units deployed. We've spent a lot of airtime on these earnings calls talking about our new products, our Gen three software technology, our relationship with Brain, and exclusivity agreement. I won't rehash those here, but I think we've got a really great foundation to build upon. When we looked at the outlook for robotics, you know, we finished the year in 2025 at $85 million in profitable robotics business as a company, and we looked at the market, which is growing. The underpinnings of that growth, the persistent labor challenges, cost of labor, and availability of labor, we thought that continues to provide a tailwind for us on a global basis.
Dave Huml: You know, since we've started in this business, 2019, 2020, we've sold to hundreds of customers globally, 10,000 units deployed. We've spent a lot of airtime on these earnings calls talking about our new products, our Gen three software technology, our relationship with Brain, and exclusivity agreement. I won't rehash those here, but I think we've got a really great foundation to build upon. When we looked at the outlook for robotics, you know, we finished the year in 2025 at $85 million in profitable robotics business as a company, and we looked at the market, which is growing. The underpinnings of that growth, the persistent labor challenges, cost of labor, and availability of labor, we thought that continues to provide a tailwind for us on a global basis.
Speaker #3: We've spent a lot of airtime on these earnings calls talking about our new products. Our Gen 3 software technology, our relationship with Brain and exclusivity agreement.
Speaker #3: So I won't rehash those here, but I think we've got a really great foundation to build upon. And so when we looked at the outlook for robotics, we finished the year in '25 at 85 million.
Speaker #3: In profitable robotics business as a company. And we looked at the market, which is growing. The underpinnings of that growth, the persistent labor challenges, cost of labor, and availability of labor, we thought that continues to provide a tailwind for us on a global basis.
Speaker #3: We're getting really strong demand signals for robotics from an interest and a demand generation perspective. And as we assess the market, we see that there's a number of new entrants that are robotics-only players.
Dave Huml: We're getting really strong demand signals for robotics from an interest and a demand generation perspective. As we assess the market, we see that there's a number of new entrants that are robotics-only players from Asia and elsewhere. These players are very fast, they're very agile, they're only selling robotics. They're gaining some positions in some distribution, and we're starting to see them be in the consideration set of our customers. You know, we saw this as both an opportunity and maybe a potential threat from these upstart competitors. We talked about it, you know, kind of early part of last year.
Dave Huml: We're getting really strong demand signals for robotics from an interest and a demand generation perspective. As we assess the market, we see that there's a number of new entrants that are robotics-only players from Asia and elsewhere. These players are very fast, they're very agile, they're only selling robotics. They're gaining some positions in some distribution, and we're starting to see them be in the consideration set of our customers. You know, we saw this as both an opportunity and maybe a potential threat from these upstart competitors. We talked about it, you know, kind of early part of last year.
Speaker #3: From Asia and elsewhere. And these players are very fast. They're very agile. They're only selling robotics. They're gaining some positions in some distribution and we're starting to see them be in the consideration set of our customers.
Speaker #3: And so we saw this as both an opportunity and maybe a potential threat from these upstart competitors. So we talked about it kind of early part of last year, midpoint in the year, we decided in concert with our board to make a bold move to make a step change investment and face off differentially to accelerate our growth in robotics.
Dave Huml: Midpoint in the year, we decided in concert with our board, to make a bold move, to make a step change investment and face off differentially to accelerate our growth in robotics. The TNC Robotics group is stood up to accelerate the efforts of our core business. When I think about having a group of dedicated people across product management, R&D, engineering, marketing, demand generation, sales, and deployment specialists, coupled with the core legacy Tennant strength in sales, decade-long customer relationships, and the industry's largest factory direct service organization, I think it makes a really formidable combination. What the group will be focused on over 2026 and in pursuit of our aspiration of $250 million in sales in 2028, we'll be focused on accelerating our NPD roadmap.
Dave Huml: Midpoint in the year, we decided in concert with our board, to make a bold move, to make a step change investment and face off differentially to accelerate our growth in robotics. The TNC Robotics group is stood up to accelerate the efforts of our core business. When I think about having a group of dedicated people across product management, R&D, engineering, marketing, demand generation, sales, and deployment specialists, coupled with the core legacy Tennant strength in sales, decade-long customer relationships, and the industry's largest factory direct service organization, I think it makes a really formidable combination. What the group will be focused on over 2026 and in pursuit of our aspiration of $250 million in sales in 2028, we'll be focused on accelerating our NPD roadmap.
Speaker #3: So the T&C robotics group is stood up to accelerate the efforts of our core business. And when I think about having a group of dedicated people across product management, R&D engineering, marketing, demand generation, sales, and deployment specialists coupled with the core legacy tenant strengths in sales, decades-long customer relationships, the industry's largest factory direct service organization, I think it makes a really formidable combination.
Speaker #3: And so what the group will be focused on over the 2026 and in pursuit of our aspiration of 250 million in sales in 2028.
Speaker #3: We'll be focused on accelerating our NPD roadmap. We had a four or five-year roadmap of what we wanted for products in the robotic space.
Dave Huml: We had a four- or five-year roadmap of what we wanted for products in the robotic space. This team, through additional resourcing as well as investment, is going to bring those products in and get those products to market faster. That will allow us to reach more customers in more distinct vertical markets with our robotic solutions in a broader range of applications. They're also gonna work on improving our adoption efficiency so that we can spend less time deploying robots and have our customers self-deploy to the extent possible and still have a fantastic experience. The quicker we can get the robots adopted at scale, the quicker the customers can start to realize their ROI, and the quicker we can redeploy our sales and deployment resources onto the next customer.
Dave Huml: We had a four- or five-year roadmap of what we wanted for products in the robotic space. This team, through additional resourcing as well as investment, is going to bring those products in and get those products to market faster. That will allow us to reach more customers in more distinct vertical markets with our robotic solutions in a broader range of applications. They're also gonna work on improving our adoption efficiency so that we can spend less time deploying robots and have our customers self-deploy to the extent possible and still have a fantastic experience. The quicker we can get the robots adopted at scale, the quicker the customers can start to realize their ROI, and the quicker we can redeploy our sales and deployment resources onto the next customer.
Speaker #3: This team through additional resourcing as well as investment is going to bring those products in and get those products to market faster. That will allow us to reach more customers in more distinct vertical markets with our robotic solutions and a broader range of applications.
Speaker #3: They're also going to work on improving our adoption efficiency. So that we can get to so we can spend less time deploying robots and have our customers self-deploy to the extent possible and still have a fantastic experience.
Speaker #3: The quicker we can get the robots adopted at scale, the quicker the customers can start to realize our ROI and the quicker we can redeploy our sales and deployment resources onto the next customer.
Dave Huml: Working on demonstration efficiency, onboarding and adoption efficiency, both through software and also through our processes. We'll also work on making sure we can demonstrate an ROI to our end-use customer through the data we can pull off the machines and demonstrate that we're hitting on the KPIs that are most important to our end-use customer. Last but not least, capturing the and generating demand. Just getting in front of more customers with our solution. You know, we've done a good job penetrating sort of large-scale customers that we sell on a strategic account and direct basis. We've got more opportunity through distribution channels and smaller customers in each of the vertical markets we serve, as well as some adjacent vertical markets.
Speaker #3: So working on demonstration efficiency, onboarding and adoption efficiency, both through software and also through our processes. And we'll also work on making sure we can demonstrate an ROI to our end-use customer through the data we can pull off the machines and demonstrate that we're hitting on the KPIs that are most important to our end-use customer.
Dave Huml: Working on demonstration efficiency, onboarding and adoption efficiency, both through software and also through our processes. We'll also work on making sure we can demonstrate an ROI to our end-use customer through the data we can pull off the machines and demonstrate that we're hitting on the KPIs that are most important to our end-use customer. Last but not least, capturing the and generating demand. Just getting in front of more customers with our solution. You know, we've done a good job penetrating sort of large-scale customers that we sell on a strategic account and direct basis. We've got more opportunity through distribution channels and smaller customers in each of the vertical markets we serve, as well as some adjacent vertical markets.
Speaker #3: And last but not least, capturing and generating demand. Just getting in front of more customers with our solution. We've done a good job penetrating sort of large-scale customers that we sell on a strategic account and direct basis.
Speaker #3: We've got more opportunity through distribution channels and smaller customers in each of the vertical markets we serve, as well as some adjacent vertical markets.
Speaker #3: So demand generation is one of the near-term goals for the T&C robotics venture as well. Really excited about it. We think it can be a significant growth contributor for us.
Dave Huml: Demand generation is one of the near-term goals for the TMC Robotics venture as well. Really excited about it. We think it can be a significant growth contributor for us, and I look at it as an opportunity to disrupt our own business. The fact that we already have a fantastic embedded business in non-robotics equipment, we are the rightful company to come out and disrupt this industry.
Dave Huml: Demand generation is one of the near-term goals for the TMC Robotics venture as well. Really excited about it. We think it can be a significant growth contributor for us, and I look at it as an opportunity to disrupt our own business. The fact that we already have a fantastic embedded business in non-robotics equipment, we are the rightful company to come out and disrupt this industry.
Speaker #3: And I look at it as an opportunity to disrupt our own business. And so the fact that we already have a fantastic embedded business in non-robotics equipment, we are the rightful company to come out and disrupt this industry.
Speaker #1: Okay. I appreciate the color. Maybe if I could sneak one follow-up question in. Fay, on your commentary on the guidance, I appreciate all the color.
Tom Hayes: Okay, I appreciate the color. Maybe if I could sneak one follow-up question in. Fay, on your commentary on the guidance, I appreciate all the color. I'm still kind of going through my notes, but I was just wondering, your comment on the gross margin for Q1, you said it's gonna be roughly equal to the Q4 gross margin. I was just wondering how you're kind of thinking about that progressing through the year. Do you expect, I haven't gone through the numbers, but do you expect overall gross margin growth year-over-year in 2026?
Tom Hayes: Okay, I appreciate the color. Maybe if I could sneak one follow-up question in. Fay, on your commentary on the guidance, I appreciate all the color. I'm still kind of going through my notes, but I was just wondering, your comment on the gross margin for Q1, you said it's gonna be roughly equal to the Q4 gross margin. I was just wondering how you're kind of thinking about that progressing through the year. Do you expect, I haven't gone through the numbers, but do you expect overall gross margin growth year-over-year in 2026?
Speaker #1: I'm still kind of going through my notes, but I was just wondering—your comment on the gross margin for Q1, you said it's going to be roughly equal to the Q4 gross margin.
Speaker #1: I was just wondering, how you're kind of thinking about that progressing through the year? And do you expect I haven't gone through the numbers, but do you expect overall gross margin growth year over year in '26?
Speaker #4: We do. So, we think that there's going to be gross margin performance in Q1 of 2026 comparable to what we saw in Q4 of 2025.
Fay West: We do. We think that there's going to be kind of gross margin performance in Q1 of 2026, comparable to what we saw in Q4 of 2025. That's mostly due to the physical inventory and the shutdown, and the plant and the distribution centers were offline. The ramp-up time and the cost required to get to full production is really going to put pressure on the Q1 gross margin. We do anticipate seeing growth margin growth sequentially. Overall, we think we're going to see kind of year-over-year gross margin expansion, which will drive the EBITDA margin expansion year-over-year as well.
Fay West: We do. We think that there's going to be kind of gross margin performance in Q1 of 2026, comparable to what we saw in Q4 of 2025. That's mostly due to the physical inventory and the shutdown, and the plant and the distribution centers were offline. The ramp-up time and the cost required to get to full production is really going to put pressure on the Q1 gross margin. We do anticipate seeing growth margin growth sequentially. Overall, we think we're going to see kind of year-over-year gross margin expansion, which will drive the EBITDA margin expansion year-over-year as well.
Speaker #4: And that's mostly due to the physical inventory and the shutdown and the plant and the distribution centers were offline. And so the ramp-up time and the cost-required to get to full production is really going to put pressure on the first-quarter gross margin.
Speaker #4: We do anticipate seeing gross margin growth in sequentially. And overall, we think we're going to see kind of year-over-year gross margin expansion. Which will drive the EBITDA margin expansion year over year as well.
Speaker #1: All right. I appreciate the color. I'll circle back later. Thank you.
Tom Hayes: All right, appreciate the color. I'll circle back later. Thank you.
Tom Hayes: All right, appreciate the color. I'll circle back later. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Fay West: Thank you.
Fay West: Thank you.
Dave Huml: Thank you, Tom.
Dave Huml: Thank you, Tom.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Tom.
Speaker #2: And our next question comes from the line of Aaron Reed with Northcoast Research. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Aaron Reed with Northcoast Research. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Aaron Reed with Northcoast Research. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Thanks. So I just kind of wanted to follow up a little bit more about the AMR because, again, that's the part that is always the exciting part of things.
Aaron Reed: Thanks. I just kind of wanted to follow up a little bit more about the AMR, because again, that's the part that, you know, is always for us, you know, the exciting part of things. You mentioned that AMR costs are starting to fall, and previously the margin on AMR units was the same as for traditional units. How much have AMR margins improved versus the traditional units?
Aaron Reed: Thanks. I just kind of wanted to follow up a little bit more about the AMR, because again, that's the part that, you know, is always for us, you know, the exciting part of things. You mentioned that AMR costs are starting to fall, and previously the margin on AMR units was the same as for traditional units. How much have AMR margins improved versus the traditional units?
Speaker #1: So, you mentioned that AMR costs are starting to fall. And previously, the margin on AMR units was the same as for traditional units. So, how much have AMR margins improved versus the traditional units?
Dave Huml: Thanks for the question, Aaron. You know, when we talk about costs in robotics, it's really more of a broad statement about the technologies that enable robotics. When you think about lidar and high-def cameras, because those technologies are being more broadly adopted across other applications outside of cleaning, over time, we're able to take advantage of lower cost of components, us and our competitors, which makes, which allows us to offer robots at a more competitive price. Let's be clear, in this robotic space, our charter, our objective is to go gain unit share. You know, we need to watch margins. We need to be cognizant of margins because we're... Especially if we're cannibalizing ourselves.
Dave Huml: Thanks for the question, Aaron. You know, when we talk about costs in robotics, it's really more of a broad statement about the technologies that enable robotics. When you think about lidar and high-def cameras, because those technologies are being more broadly adopted across other applications outside of cleaning, over time, we're able to take advantage of lower cost of components, us and our competitors, which makes, which allows us to offer robots at a more competitive price. Let's be clear, in this robotic space, our charter, our objective is to go gain unit share. You know, we need to watch margins. We need to be cognizant of margins because we're... Especially if we're cannibalizing ourselves.
Speaker #3: Thanks for the question, Aaron. So, when we talk about costs in robotics, it's really more of a broad statement about the technologies that enable robotics.
Speaker #3: So when you think about LiDAR and high-def cameras, because those technologies are being more broadly adopted across other applications outside of cleaning, over time, we're able to take advantage of lower cost of components, us and our competitors, which makes which allows us to offer robots at a more competitive price.
Speaker #3: And let's be clear, in this robotic space, our charter, our objective is to go gain units here. And so we need to watch margins.
Speaker #3: We need to be cognizant of margins because especially if we're cannibalizing ourselves. But given the rapid growth in this marketplace, we need to be outgrowing unit share right now and making sure that we're competitively priced in the marketplace.
Dave Huml: Given the rapid growth in this marketplace, we need to be outgrowing unit share right now and making sure that we're competitively priced in the marketplace. My comment on cost really has to do more with the unique componentry that goes into enabling robotics, and we see those continue to come down on the cost curve. It's not by leaps and bounds. Candidly, at our volumes, you know, we're not a major player yet where we can leverage our volumes. There are some volume breaks that as we grow our business, we could just take advantage of. The benefit to us will be being able to offer robots to more customers at more competitive prices, which gives them the ability to get an even better ROI on the investment.
Dave Huml: Given the rapid growth in this marketplace, we need to be outgrowing unit share right now and making sure that we're competitively priced in the marketplace. My comment on cost really has to do more with the unique componentry that goes into enabling robotics, and we see those continue to come down on the cost curve. It's not by leaps and bounds. Candidly, at our volumes, you know, we're not a major player yet where we can leverage our volumes. There are some volume breaks that as we grow our business, we could just take advantage of. The benefit to us will be being able to offer robots to more customers at more competitive prices, which gives them the ability to get an even better ROI on the investment.
Speaker #3: So my comment on cost really has to do more with the unique componentry that goes into enabling robotics, and we see those continue to come down the cost curve.
Speaker #3: It's not by leaps and bounds. And candidly, at our volumes, we're not a major player yet where we can leverage our volumes. But there are some volume breaks that, as we grow our business, we can take advantage of.
Speaker #3: The benefit to us will be being able to offer robots to more customers at more competitive prices. Which gives them the ability to get an even better ROI on the investment.
Speaker #1: Are you seeing any pricing pressure then from some of those newer competitors coming in at all then?
Aaron Reed: Are you seeing any pricing pressure then, from some of those newer competitors coming in at all then?
Aaron Reed: Are you seeing any pricing pressure then, from some of those newer competitors coming in at all then?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Great question. We are seeing pricing pressure from our competitors all of our competitors. But I would say especially the upstart entrance robotics-only competitors.
Dave Huml: Yeah, great question. We are seeing pricing pressure from our competitors, all of our competitors, but I would say especially the upstart entrants, robotics-only competitors. These are brand-new upstart companies. They don't have an embedded business they're trying to protect. They're trying to grow out and grow unit volume so they can, so they can, you know, presumably get to profitability. They're in a very different starting position than us.
Dave Huml: Yeah, great question. We are seeing pricing pressure from our competitors, all of our competitors, but I would say especially the upstart entrants, robotics-only competitors. These are brand-new upstart companies. They don't have an embedded business they're trying to protect. They're trying to grow out and grow unit volume so they can, so they can, you know, presumably get to profitability. They're in a very different starting position than us.
Speaker #3: These are brand new upstart companies. They don't have an embedded business they're trying to protect. They're trying to grow out and grow unit volumes so they can, so they can presumably get their profitability.
Speaker #3: So they're in a very different starting position than us. Given that pricing pressure, that's another one of the reasons we decided to stand up the T&C robotics venture.
Dave Huml: Given that pricing pressure, that's another one of the reasons we decided to stand up the Tennant Company venture, so that we have a group of people inside the company that are thinking, planning, acting more entrepreneurially and going after the market as it exists today, acknowledging the reality of those, of those robotics-only competitors, and making sure that our value proposition is at a commandable premium to them. We, you know, we do think that our value prop, our product, and our ecosystem support can command a premium, but there's a limit to that premium. One of the first things that the robotics group is working on is making sure that we're competitively priced in the marketplace, as well as have a competitive offering of solutions as well as products.
Dave Huml: Given that pricing pressure, that's another one of the reasons we decided to stand up the Tennant Company venture, so that we have a group of people inside the company that are thinking, planning, acting more entrepreneurially and going after the market as it exists today, acknowledging the reality of those, of those robotics-only competitors, and making sure that our value proposition is at a commandable premium to them. We, you know, we do think that our value prop, our product, and our ecosystem support can command a premium, but there's a limit to that premium. One of the first things that the robotics group is working on is making sure that we're competitively priced in the marketplace, as well as have a competitive offering of solutions as well as products.
Speaker #3: So that we have a group of people inside the company that are thinking, planning, acting more entrepreneurially, and going after the market as it exists today, acknowledging the reality of those robotics-only competitors.
Speaker #3: And making sure that our value proposition is at a commandable premium to them. We do think that our value prop, our product, and our ecosystem support can command a premium.
Speaker #3: But there's a limit to that premium. And so one of the first things that the robotics group is working on is making sure that we're competitively priced in the marketplace, as well as have a competitive offering of solutions, as well as products.
Aaron Reed: That makes sense. One more question here, and then I'll pass it off. Just switching back to your guidance. Your guidance on 2026 reflects like a mid-single-digit growth and an EBITDA margin expansion in line with that of your long-term goals. Taking a step back, how should we think about, you know, the first part of 2026, especially in Q1?
Speaker #1: That makes sense. And then one more question here, and then I'll pass it off. Just switching back to your guidance—so, your guidance in 2026 reflects mid-single-digit growth and an EBITDA margin expansion.
Aaron Reed: That makes sense. One more question here, and then I'll pass it off. Just switching back to your guidance. Your guidance on 2026 reflects like a mid-single-digit growth and an EBITDA margin expansion in line with that of your long-term goals. Taking a step back, how should we think about, you know, the first part of 2026, especially in Q1?
Speaker #1: In line with that, and with your long-term goals, so taking a step back, how should we think about the first part of 2026, especially in the first quarter?
Speaker #4: Yeah. So I think we'll see it's almost going to be like a tale of two halves. And I think I mentioned on a just previously and in the prepared remarks that Q1 will be impacted by the shutdown of the facilities for the physical inventory and the ramp-up.
Dave Huml: Yeah. I think it's almost going to be like a tale of two halves. I think I mentioned previously and in the prepared remarks that Q1 will be impacted by the shutdown of the facilities for the physical inventory and the ramp-up. We're going to see, you know, an impact on sales, an impact on margin. The margin is not recoverable long term, but the sales will be recoverable within the year. That's really just kind of from a timing perspective. We are going to slowly see kind of a ramp-up in Q2.
Dave Huml: Yeah. I think it's almost going to be like a tale of two halves. I think I mentioned previously and in the prepared remarks that Q1 will be impacted by the shutdown of the facilities for the physical inventory and the ramp-up. We're going to see, you know, an impact on sales, an impact on margin. The margin is not recoverable long term, but the sales will be recoverable within the year. That's really just kind of from a timing perspective. We are going to slowly see kind of a ramp-up in Q2.
Speaker #4: And so we're going to see an impact on sales and impact on margin. The margin is not recoverable long-term. But the sales will be recoverable within the year.
Speaker #4: So that's really just kind of from a timing perspective. We are going to slowly see kind of a ramp-up in Q2. And I think when you look at the first half versus the second half, we'll see significant improvement in the second half.
Dave Huml: I think, you know, when you look at the first half versus the second half, we'll see significant improvement in the second half, as we, you know, work through the kinks and stabilize the system and increase our efficiency and have the physical inventory and the impacts of that behind us. We'll see improvements throughout Q2, but really a ramp-up in Q3 and Q4.
Dave Huml: I think, you know, when you look at the first half versus the second half, we'll see significant improvement in the second half, as we, you know, work through the kinks and stabilize the system and increase our efficiency and have the physical inventory and the impacts of that behind us. We'll see improvements throughout Q2, but really a ramp-up in Q3 and Q4.
Speaker #4: As we work through the kinks and stabilize the system and increase our efficiency and have the physical inventory and the impacts of that behind us.
Speaker #4: So, we'll see improvement throughout Q2, but really a ramp-up in Q3 and Q4.
Speaker #1: Great. Thank you much.
Aaron Reed: Great. Thank you much.
Aaron Reed: Great. Thank you much.
Speaker #2: And as a reminder, it is STAR 1 if you would like to ask a question. And our next question comes from the line of Steve Ferrazzani with Sidoty.
Operator: As a reminder, it is star one if you would like to ask a question. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Ferrazzani with Sidoti. Your line is open.
Operator: As a reminder, it is star one if you would like to ask a question. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Ferrazzani with Sidoti. Your line is open.
Speaker #2: Your line is open.
Speaker #5: Good morning, Dave. Morning, Fay. Appreciate all the detail on the call. Got to ask a couple of difficult questions, as you'd imagine, Dave. Apologize for it ahead of time.
Steve Ferrazzani: Morning, Dave. Morning, Fay. Appreciate all the.
Steve Ferazani: Morning, Dave. Morning, Fay. Appreciate all the.
Dave Huml: Good morning, Steve.
Dave Huml: Good morning, Steve.
Steve Ferrazzani: Detail on the call. Got to ask a couple of difficult questions, as you'd imagine, Dave, apologize for it ahead of time. In terms of disclosing what were clearly issues that were gonna be material to your results, obviously, you knew probably within by early December, it's now late February, what was the decision process in terms of not disclosing some of these issues earlier to shareholders?
Steve Ferazani: Detail on the call. Got to ask a couple of difficult questions, as you'd imagine, Dave, apologize for it ahead of time. In terms of disclosing what were clearly issues that were gonna be material to your results, obviously, you knew probably within by early December, it's now late February, what was the decision process in terms of not disclosing some of these issues earlier to shareholders?
Speaker #5: But in terms of disclosing what were clearly issues that were going to be material to your results, you obviously knew probably by early December.
Speaker #5: It's now late February. What was the decision process in terms of not disclosing some of these issues earlier to shareholders?
Dave Huml: Yeah, thanks for the question, Steve. We knew we had challenges. We were still in triage mode to understand what the magnitude of the challenges were and whether or not we're gonna be in a position to recover some or all of it as we came through the year, and ultimately, as we closed the books, which included our physical inventory in the first two weeks of January. You know, you can imagine when we were unable to book orders for three weeks in November, when you can't book orders, you can't build, ship, invoice, and collect. You also can't supply dates to customers on when they can expect to get their product.
Dave Huml: Yeah, thanks for the question, Steve. We knew we had challenges. We were still in triage mode to understand what the magnitude of the challenges were and whether or not we're gonna be in a position to recover some or all of it as we came through the year, and ultimately, as we closed the books, which included our physical inventory in the first two weeks of January. You know, you can imagine when we were unable to book orders for three weeks in November, when you can't book orders, you can't build, ship, invoice, and collect. You also can't supply dates to customers on when they can expect to get their product.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks for the question, Steve. We knew we had challenges. We were still in triage mode to understand what the magnitude of the challenges were.
Speaker #3: And whether or not we're going to be in a position to recover some or all of it. As we came through the year, and ultimately as we closed the books—which included our physical inventory in the first two weeks of January.
Speaker #3: You can imagine when you are unable to when we were unable to book orders for three weeks in November, when you can't book orders, you can't build, ship, invoice, collect.
Speaker #3: You also can't supply dates to customers on when they can expect to get their product. And so, as we unlocked the challenge in getting orders into the system, we dumped not only the cutover orders from pre–go live, but also three weeks' worth of orders that had come in.
Dave Huml: As we unlocked the challenge in getting orders into the system, we dumped not only the cut-over orders from pre-go live, but also three weeks worth of orders that had come in. We dumped those into the system and had to reconcile who was gonna get the limited production we were gonna have in December and allocate the output across the customer base. It was not like turning on a light switch and getting, you know, kind of getting back to business as usual. We really didn't have any sense for if we could recover, how much could we recover, what it would look like as we were scrambling to satisfy customers coming through December.
Dave Huml: As we unlocked the challenge in getting orders into the system, we dumped not only the cut-over orders from pre-go live, but also three weeks worth of orders that had come in. We dumped those into the system and had to reconcile who was gonna get the limited production we were gonna have in December and allocate the output across the customer base. It was not like turning on a light switch and getting, you know, kind of getting back to business as usual. We really didn't have any sense for if we could recover, how much could we recover, what it would look like as we were scrambling to satisfy customers coming through December.
Speaker #3: We dumped those into the system and had to reconcile who was going to get the limited production we were going to have in December, and allocate the output across the customer base.
Speaker #3: So it was anything it was not like turning on a light switch and getting kind of getting back to business as usual. We really didn't have any sense for if we could recover, how much could we recover, what it would look like as we were scrambling to satisfy customers coming through December.
Speaker #3: Having said that, from Thanksgiving through the end of the year, we threw every lever forward we could. And I think you see that reflected in our cost of the revenue we generated in December and the quarter.
Dave Huml: Having said that, from Thanksgiving through the end of the year, we threw every lever forward we could, and I think you see that reflected in our cost of the revenue we generated in December in the quarter. We were inefficient. We had overtime. We ran multiple shifts and overtime. We were expediting freight. We were doing everything we could to with the goal of satisfying customers and reducing the customer frustration level that we had created with our challenge in the first three weeks of November. You know, yes, we knew we were having challenges, being able to estimate and quantify what the impact of those challenges would be and what the implications. We really didn't know that until we got through with the close.
Dave Huml: Having said that, from Thanksgiving through the end of the year, we threw every lever forward we could, and I think you see that reflected in our cost of the revenue we generated in December in the quarter. We were inefficient. We had overtime. We ran multiple shifts and overtime. We were expediting freight. We were doing everything we could to with the goal of satisfying customers and reducing the customer frustration level that we had created with our challenge in the first three weeks of November. You know, yes, we knew we were having challenges, being able to estimate and quantify what the impact of those challenges would be and what the implications. We really didn't know that until we got through with the close.
Speaker #3: We were inefficient. We had overtime. We ran multiple shifts and overtime. We were expediting freight. We were doing everything we could to but the goal of satisfying customers and reducing the customer frustration level that we had that we had created with our challenge in the first three weeks of November.
Speaker #3: So yes, we knew we were having challenges. Being able to estimate and quantify what the impact of those challenges would be and what the implications we really didn't know that until we got through with the close.
Speaker #3: And so by that point, we were very close to our earnings release date. And so we as soon as we knew, we knew you knew.
Dave Huml: By that point, we were very close to our earnings release date. As soon as we knew, we knew you knew.
Dave Huml: By that point, we were very close to our earnings release date. As soon as we knew, we knew you knew.
Speaker #5: Okay. Fair enough. Thanks for that. Thoughtful response. Obviously, you're not the first company that has had these ERP implementation issues. The concern becomes when you couldn't book orders for three weeks, permanent customer loss because you're still guiding for three to six and a half percent revenue growth next year.
Steve Ferrazzani: Okay, fair enough. Thanks for that. Thanks for that thoughtful response. You know, obviously, you're not the first company that has had, you know, these ERP implementation issues. The concern becomes when you couldn't book orders for 3 weeks, permanent customer loss, because you're still guiding for 3% to 6.5% revenue growth next year. Do you have a sense, and I'm sure it's too early, about the potential for permanent customer loss that might damage that growth rate? More specifically, obviously, I'm thinking about your larger direct customers. Have you been able to survey, get any feedback, have any sense on that, right? Because that would seem to me to be the downside risk.
Steve Ferazani: Okay, fair enough. Thanks for that. Thanks for that thoughtful response. You know, obviously, you're not the first company that has had, you know, these ERP implementation issues. The concern becomes when you couldn't book orders for 3 weeks, permanent customer loss, because you're still guiding for 3% to 6.5% revenue growth next year. Do you have a sense, and I'm sure it's too early, about the potential for permanent customer loss that might damage that growth rate? More specifically, obviously, I'm thinking about your larger direct customers. Have you been able to survey, get any feedback, have any sense on that, right? Because that would seem to me to be the downside risk.
Speaker #5: Do you have a sense and I'm sure it's too early about the potential for permanent customer loss that might damage that growth rate? And more specifically, obviously, I'm thinking about your larger direct customers.
Speaker #5: Have you been able to survey, get any feedback? Have any sense on that, right? Because that would seem to me to be the downside risk.
Speaker #3: Yeah. It's a great question. It's one top of mind for me and us. Obviously, as we come through this, experience over Q4 and now starting Q1, throughout this journey, our customers showed an amazing amount of patience with us.
Dave Huml: Yeah, it's a great question. It's one top of mind for me and us. You know, obviously, as we come through this experience over Q4 and now starting Q1. Throughout this journey, our customers showed an amazing amount of patience with us. We communicated the original go live early. They knew it was coming. I think they showed us a tremendous amount of patience and grace coming through kind of the first week. By second week, they had concerns. By third week, we'd frustrated them, not only with our lack of ability to deliver, but our lack of ability to provide dates.
Dave Huml: Yeah, it's a great question. It's one top of mind for me and us. You know, obviously, as we come through this experience over Q4 and now starting Q1. Throughout this journey, our customers showed an amazing amount of patience with us. We communicated the original go live early. They knew it was coming. I think they showed us a tremendous amount of patience and grace coming through kind of the first week. By second week, they had concerns. By third week, we'd frustrated them, not only with our lack of ability to deliver, but our lack of ability to provide dates.
Speaker #3: We communicated the original go live early. They knew it was coming. I think they showed us a tremendous amount of patience and grace coming through kind of the first week.
Speaker #3: By the second week, they had concerns. And by the third week, we'd frustrated them—not only with our lack of ability to deliver, but our lack of ability to provide dates.
Speaker #3: So in response to that, in addition to everything we did internally to try to right the ship and get the system stable and get the orders in and build and produce, in addition to that, we've drawn very close to our customers.
Dave Huml: In response to that, you know, in addition to everything we did internally to try to right the ship and get the system stable and get the orders in and build and produce, you know, in addition to that, we've drawn very close to our customers. We've been very transparent and open with them, large customers and small customers, to make sure that we understand their priorities and needs. They understand not only that we regret that it happened, but what can we do to try to get, you know, get them through this period and back on track? Largely speaking, we're still in contact with all of our customers. Where we've lost business, it's customers and distributors that told us we were gonna lose it.
Dave Huml: In response to that, you know, in addition to everything we did internally to try to right the ship and get the system stable and get the orders in and build and produce, you know, in addition to that, we've drawn very close to our customers. We've been very transparent and open with them, large customers and small customers, to make sure that we understand their priorities and needs. They understand not only that we regret that it happened, but what can we do to try to get, you know, get them through this period and back on track? Largely speaking, we're still in contact with all of our customers. Where we've lost business, it's customers and distributors that told us we were gonna lose it.
Speaker #3: We've been very transparent and open with them—large customers and small customers—to make sure that we understand their priorities and needs. They understand not only that we regret that it happened, but also what we can do to try to get them through this period and back on track.
Speaker #3: Largely speaking, we're still in contact with all of our customers. Where we've lost business, it's customers and distributors that told us we were going to lose it.
Speaker #3: It was a customer needed a machine, and we just couldn't physically get it produced. Or there were some parts we couldn't get parts out, and they had an alternative source for them.
Dave Huml: It was, you know, a customer needed a machine, and we just couldn't physically get it produced, or there were some, you know, parts, we couldn't get parts out, and they had an alternative source for them. I think we're aware of where we lost the sales in Q4. Similarly, as we came through kind of our Q1 January experience, we're close to customers, and I think we understand where that leakage has been. We have work to do, and the customers are still talking to us and telling us what their needs are and maybe expressing frustration, but working with us as we dig out of the hole. I'm very concerned about them. I'm less concerned about them than a customer that just walked, right?
Dave Huml: It was, you know, a customer needed a machine, and we just couldn't physically get it produced, or there were some, you know, parts, we couldn't get parts out, and they had an alternative source for them. I think we're aware of where we lost the sales in Q4. Similarly, as we came through kind of our Q1 January experience, we're close to customers, and I think we understand where that leakage has been. We have work to do, and the customers are still talking to us and telling us what their needs are and maybe expressing frustration, but working with us as we dig out of the hole. I'm very concerned about them. I'm less concerned about them than a customer that just walked, right?
Speaker #3: So I think we're aware of where we took the where we lost the sales in Q4. Similarly, as we came through kind of our Q1 January experience, we're close to customers.
Speaker #3: And I think we understand where that leakage has been. We have work to do. And the customers are still talking to us and telling us what their needs are.
Speaker #3: And maybe expressing frustration, but working with us as we dig out of the hole. I'm very concerned about them. I'm less concerned about them than a customer that just walked, right, and just said, 'Hey, I'm frustrated, and I'm moving on.' The vast majority of our customers, and certainly the largest, are in that first camp where they're frustrated.
Dave Huml: Just said, "Hey, I'm frustrated, and I'm moving on." The vast majority of our customers, and certainly the largest, are in that first camp, where they're frustrated.
Dave Huml: Just said, "Hey, I'm frustrated, and I'm moving on." The vast majority of our customers, and certainly the largest, are in that first camp, where they're frustrated.
Steve Ferrazzani: Okay.
Steve Ferazani: Okay.
Dave Huml: We're working with them. You know, in some cases, we're on a daily reporting of their orders and their orders in process and their shipments to let them know how we're getting back on track. We have made significant progress coming through December, and then another, you know, we took another step back, I'll say, with the physical inventory from a customer perspective, and we've made progress since that physical inventory. When I look at just the raw output at a macro level, you know, we're trending positively since the physical inventory. You know, we're projecting to be, you know, above water, kind of back at output rates as we exit the quarter, mostly in February.
Speaker #3: We're working with them. In some cases, we're on a daily reporting of their orders, and their orders in process, and their shipments, to let them know how we're getting back on track.
Dave Huml: We're working with them. You know, in some cases, we're on a daily reporting of their orders and their orders in process and their shipments to let them know how we're getting back on track. We have made significant progress coming through December, and then another, you know, we took another step back, I'll say, with the physical inventory from a customer perspective, and we've made progress since that physical inventory. When I look at just the raw output at a macro level, you know, we're trending positively since the physical inventory. You know, we're projecting to be, you know, above water, kind of back at output rates as we exit the quarter, mostly in February.
Speaker #3: We have made significant progress coming through December. And then another we took another step back, I'll say, with the physical inventory from a customer perspective.
Speaker #3: And we've made progress since that physical inventory. When I look at just the raw output at a macro level, we're trending positively since the physical inventory.
Speaker #3: We're projecting to be above water, kind of back at output rates as we exit the quarter. Mostly in February. We also have to work down the backlog.
Dave Huml: We also have to work down the backlog. Even though we're you know, if we're operating and the output is at target, we still have to work down the backlog. My sense is our customers are not gonna be ready to listen to us about recovery until they can feel it, and they've got their backordered product in hand. We will make a concerted effort to get back with our customers, understand how we begin to rebuild trust. The biggest thing we can do is start performing, so that they can rely on us to predictably deliver the way they have for the past years, in some cases, in some cases, decades.
Dave Huml: We also have to work down the backlog. Even though we're you know, if we're operating and the output is at target, we still have to work down the backlog. My sense is our customers are not gonna be ready to listen to us about recovery until they can feel it, and they've got their backordered product in hand. We will make a concerted effort to get back with our customers, understand how we begin to rebuild trust. The biggest thing we can do is start performing, so that they can rely on us to predictably deliver the way they have for the past years, in some cases, in some cases, decades.
Speaker #3: And so, even though we're operating and the output is at target, we still have to work down the backlog. My sense is our customers are not going to be ready to listen to us about recovery until they can feel it, and they've got their backordered product in hand.
Speaker #3: Then we will make a concerted effort to get back with our customers, understand how we begin to rebuild trust. But the biggest thing we can do is start performing.
Speaker #3: So that they can rely on us to predictably deliver their way, the way they have for the past years—and in some cases, in some cases, decades.
Speaker #3: So, having said that, I think Fay commented earlier, there are some of these sales that we think are just gone. Certainly, some of the sales we couldn't recover in 2025 from the November experience.
Dave Huml: Having said that, you know, I think Fay commented earlier, there's some of these sales that we think are just gone. Certainly some of the sales we couldn't recover in 2025 from the November experience, but if you open the aperture and look at a 2-year period, the lost sales are reflected in our guidance. You can see that we-
Dave Huml: Having said that, you know, I think Fay commented earlier, there's some of these sales that we think are just gone. Certainly some of the sales we couldn't recover in 2025 from the November experience, but if you open the aperture and look at a 2-year period, the lost sales are reflected in our guidance. You can see that we-
Speaker #3: But if you open the aperture and look at a two-year period, the lost sales are reflected in our guidance. So, you can see that we still think we can gain back and claw back our rightful share of the market and rebuild the trust that we lost with customers.
Steve Ferrazzani: Okay.
Dave Huml: We still think we can gain back and claw back, you know, our rightful share of the market and rebuild the trust that we lost with customers.
Steve Ferazani: Okay.
Dave Huml: We still think we can gain back and claw back, you know, our rightful share of the market and rebuild the trust that we lost with customers.
Speaker #5: That's really helpful, Dave. I appreciate that. If I could ask go ahead.
Steve Ferrazzani: That's really helpful, Dave. I appreciate that.
Steve Ferazani: That's really helpful, Dave. I appreciate that.
Dave Huml: So another-
Dave Huml: So another-
Steve Ferrazzani: If I could ask.
Steve Ferazani: If I could ask.
Dave Huml: Steve?
Dave Huml: Steve?
Steve Ferrazzani: Go.
Steve Ferazani: Go.
Dave Huml: Sorry. I'm sorry, just another point I made.
Dave Huml: Sorry. I'm sorry, just another point I made.
Speaker #3: Sorry. I'm sorry. Just another point I made, too: when you think about customer frustration, it's not directly correlated to the size of the revenue.
Steve Ferrazzani: No, please go ahead, Dave.
Steve Ferazani: No, please go ahead, Dave.
Dave Huml: When you think about customer frustration, it's not directly correlated to the size of the revenue in a particular order. What I mean by that is, if a customer is gonna order a 40 or 50 or 60 thousand dollar piece of equipment from us, an industrial piece of equipment, that has a 4 to 8-week lead time. When they put the order in in November, and we gave them a 4 that became a 6 or a 4 that became an 8, they're not happy with it, and I get that, but they buy a piece of equipment every 4, 5, or 6 years. That is a bit easier conversation than a customer that has a machine down and needs a repair part today.
Dave Huml: When you think about customer frustration, it's not directly correlated to the size of the revenue in a particular order. What I mean by that is, if a customer is gonna order a 40 or 50 or 60 thousand dollar piece of equipment from us, an industrial piece of equipment, that has a 4 to 8-week lead time. When they put the order in in November, and we gave them a 4 that became a 6 or a 4 that became an 8, they're not happy with it, and I get that, but they buy a piece of equipment every 4, 5, or 6 years. That is a bit easier conversation than a customer that has a machine down and needs a repair part today.
Speaker #3: In a particular order—what I mean by that is, if a customer is going to order a $40,000 or $50,000 or $60,000 piece of equipment from us, an industrial piece of equipment, that has a four- to eight-week lead time.
Speaker #3: So, when they put the order in in November and we gave them a four that became a six, or a four that became an eight, they're not happy with it.
Speaker #3: And I get that. But they buy a piece of equipment every four, five, six years. That is a bit easier conversation than a customer that has a machine down and needs a repair part today.
Speaker #3: So in the first case, we're dealing with a 50, 60 thousand dollar piece of equipment and that revenue. In the second case, we may be dealing with a hundred dollar parts order.
Dave Huml: In the first, in the first case, we're dealing with a $50,000, $60,000 piece of equipment and that revenue. In the second case, we may be dealing with a $100 parts order, but the machine is down, and they need it today because they get the machine running. It's a different sense of urgency and frustration. The customer frustration doesn't correlate exactly to revenue, is my point.
Dave Huml: In the first, in the first case, we're dealing with a $50,000, $60,000 piece of equipment and that revenue. In the second case, we may be dealing with a $100 parts order, but the machine is down, and they need it today because they get the machine running. It's a different sense of urgency and frustration. The customer frustration doesn't correlate exactly to revenue, is my point.
Speaker #3: But the machine is down, and they need it today because they get the machine running. It's a different sense of urgency and frustration. So the customer frustration doesn't correlate exactly to revenue, is my point.
Speaker #5: Yep. That's fair. That's helpful. Looking at your balance sheet, you noted net leverage is still, despite the operational issues, you still came out of the year one times net leverage.
Steve Ferrazzani: Yep. That's fair. That's helpful. Looking at your balance sheet, you noted net leverage is despite the operational issues, you still came out of the year 1 times net leverage. You talked about you've used the buyback a little bit, but in terms of looking at the stock price today, it seems like if you're going to work through these issues, and you seem to have confidence based on your guidance, it seems like there's an obvious best return of investment case here. How are you thinking about the buyback?
Steve Ferazani: Yep. That's fair. That's helpful. Looking at your balance sheet, you noted net leverage is despite the operational issues, you still came out of the year 1 times net leverage. You talked about you've used the buyback a little bit, but in terms of looking at the stock price today, it seems like if you're going to work through these issues, and you seem to have confidence based on your guidance, it seems like there's an obvious best return of investment case here. How are you thinking about the buyback?
Speaker #5: You talked about you've used the buyback a little bit, but in terms of looking at the stock price today, it seems like if you're going to work through these issues and you seem to have confidence based on your guidance, it seems like there's an obvious best return of investment case here.
Speaker #5: How are you thinking about the buyback?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Well, I think we exercised our authorization quite aggressively last year. We took down 1.1 million shares for $88 million, 6% of shares outstanding at the time.
Dave Huml: Yeah, well, I think we exercised our authorization quite aggressively last year. We took down 1.1 million shares for $88 million, 6% of shares outstanding at the time. Although our leverage remained low, I think we exercised the authorization, and I'm pleased with how we actioned share buybacks. We bought back shares last year because, one, the price was attractive at the time versus our view of value of the intrinsic value of the company and the stock, in line with our capital allocation priorities.
Dave Huml: Yeah, well, I think we exercised our authorization quite aggressively last year. We took down 1.1 million shares for $88 million, 6% of shares outstanding at the time. Although our leverage remained low, I think we exercised the authorization, and I'm pleased with how we actioned share buybacks. We bought back shares last year because, one, the price was attractive at the time versus our view of value of the intrinsic value of the company and the stock, in line with our capital allocation priorities.
Speaker #3: So although our leverage remained low, I think we exercised the authorization. And I'm pleased with how we actioned share buybacks. We bought back shares last year because, one, the price was attractive at the time versus our view of the intrinsic value of the company and the stock.
Speaker #3: In line with our capital allocation priorities. And so, as we said before publicly, as we look out—next quarter, two quarters—if we don't have a strategic M&A opportunity of size that's imminent, and the stock is at an attractive price, then we're going to participate in buybacks.
Dave Huml: We, as we've said before on publicly, as we look out, you know, next quarter, two quarters, if we don't have a strategic M&A opportunity upsized that's imminent, and the stock is at an attractive price, then we're gonna participate in buybacks. We'll continue that stance. We are staged to continue that stance into 2026, and we'll be equally as aggressive. We've stated that we want to keep our leverage within that 1 to 2x, so, you know, don't be surprised if we start flexing that here, especially if the stock reacts negatively to our ERP challenges, and that presents a greater buying opportunity for us. We think it's a great value creation opportunity for us.
Dave Huml: We, as we've said before on publicly, as we look out, you know, next quarter, two quarters, if we don't have a strategic M&A opportunity upsized that's imminent, and the stock is at an attractive price, then we're gonna participate in buybacks. We'll continue that stance. We are staged to continue that stance into 2026, and we'll be equally as aggressive. We've stated that we want to keep our leverage within that 1 to 2x, so, you know, don't be surprised if we start flexing that here, especially if the stock reacts negatively to our ERP challenges, and that presents a greater buying opportunity for us. We think it's a great value creation opportunity for us.
Speaker #3: We'll continue that stance. We are staged to continue that stance into 2026. And we'll be equally as aggressive. We've stated that we want to keep our leverage within that one to two times.
Speaker #3: So don't be surprised if we start flexing that here, especially if the stock reacts negatively to our ERP challenges and that presents a greater buying opportunity for us.
Speaker #3: We think it's a great value creation opportunity for us. We're not really in the business of timing the market, but, consistent with our capital allocation prioritization, we'll have a plan in place.
Dave Huml: We're not really in the business of timing the market, but consistent with our capital allocation prioritization, we'll have a plan in place.
Dave Huml: We're not really in the business of timing the market, but consistent with our capital allocation prioritization, we'll have a plan in place.
Speaker #5: Great. That's helpful. Picking out one more in with some filings recently around the change to your board structure, composition. Can you comment about those filings?
Steve Ferrazzani: Great. That's helpful. To get one more in, there were some filings recently around the change to your board structure, composition. Could you comment about those filings?
Steve Ferazani: Great. That's helpful. To get one more in, there were some filings recently around the change to your board structure, composition. Could you comment about those filings?
Speaker #3: Yeah. I'd be happy to. I think I was reinforced. As a board and a management team and I, we are really very open-minded about value creation opportunities for this business.
Dave Huml: Yeah, I'd be happy to. Yeah, I think we've as reinforced, we, as a board, a management team, and I, are really very open-minded about value creation opportunities for this business. We routinely engage investors and analysts alike on their ideas for value creation from our business. We thoughtfully consider those as they're posed, we discuss them, and we, you know, we digest them as a leadership team and a board and decide which ones make sense and analyze the pros and cons and move forward. We have been engaged with VisionOne since they moved in to took a position in our stock late in 2024.
Dave Huml: Yeah, I'd be happy to. Yeah, I think we've as reinforced, we, as a board, a management team, and I, are really very open-minded about value creation opportunities for this business. We routinely engage investors and analysts alike on their ideas for value creation from our business. We thoughtfully consider those as they're posed, we discuss them, and we, you know, we digest them as a leadership team and a board and decide which ones make sense and analyze the pros and cons and move forward. We have been engaged with VisionOne since they moved in to took a position in our stock late in 2024.
Speaker #3: So, we engage. We routinely engage investors and analysts alike on their ideas for value creation from our business. And we thoughtfully consider those as they are posed, and we discuss them.
Speaker #3: And we digest them as a leadership team and a board, and decide which ones make sense, analyze the pros and cons, and move forward.
Speaker #3: We have been engaged with Vision One since they moved into took a position in our stock late in 2024. We've had a series more recently.
Dave Huml: We've had a series of very constructive conversations with the principals of VisionOne, myself, and our chairman of the board and some of our board members as well. The VisionOne constructive conversation really centered primarily around board topics, board composition, and board governance. In addition to our robust existing board governance processes, including board refreshments, our skills assessments, and our director assessments, in addition to that, we entertained their comments and thoughts about composition and governance in a very thoughtful manner. The output of that conversation is we've landed two new great directors on our board. One of which was nominated by Tennant Company, that's Jim Glierum. Patrick Allen was nominated by VisionOne and vetted by the company.
Dave Huml: We've had a series of very constructive conversations with the principals of VisionOne, myself, and our chairman of the board and some of our board members as well. The VisionOne constructive conversation really centered primarily around board topics, board composition, and board governance. In addition to our robust existing board governance processes, including board refreshments, our skills assessments, and our director assessments, in addition to that, we entertained their comments and thoughts about composition and governance in a very thoughtful manner. The output of that conversation is we've landed two new great directors on our board. One of which was nominated by Tennant Company, that's Jim Glierum. Patrick Allen was nominated by VisionOne and vetted by the company.
Speaker #3: We had a series of very constructive conversations with the principals of Vision One, myself, and our chairman of the board and some of our board members as well.
Speaker #3: Vision One constructive conversation really centered primarily around board topics, board composition, board governance. And so in addition to our robust existing board governance processes, including board refreshments and our skills assessments and our director assessments, in addition to that, we entertained their comments and thoughts about composition and governance and very thoughtful manner.
Speaker #3: And the output of that conversation is we've landed two new great directors on our
Speaker #1: Our board , one of which was nominated by by tenant company . That's Jim Patrick Allen was nominated by by Vision One and vetted by the company .
Speaker #1: We think we've we've added a significant skill sets and to our to our board , and we're pleased to have Jim and Patrick on board .
Dave Huml: We think we've added a significant skill sets to our board, and we're pleased to have Jim and Patrick on board. You probably saw a cooperation agreement that has some fairly customary clauses in it, including a standstill, or excuse me, some committee assignments for the new directors, and we've committed to move away from a staggered board starting in 2027, or at least make the proposal to move away from a staggered board. I would say this, these two new board directors, you know, welcome to Jim and Patrick. I'm sure they're on the line. I talked to them just last night, and they're excited to be part of the Tennant organization and board of directors.
Dave Huml: We think we've added a significant skill sets to our board, and we're pleased to have Jim and Patrick on board. You probably saw a cooperation agreement that has some fairly customary clauses in it, including a standstill, or excuse me, some committee assignments for the new directors, and we've committed to move away from a staggered board starting in 2027, or at least make the proposal to move away from a staggered board. I would say this, these two new board directors, you know, welcome to Jim and Patrick. I'm sure they're on the line. I talked to them just last night, and they're excited to be part of the Tennant organization and board of directors.
Speaker #1: You probably saw a cooperation agreement that that has some fairly customary clauses in it , including a standstill , some board assignments for the new excuse me , some committee assignments for the new directors .
Speaker #1: And we've committed to move away from a staggered board starting in 2027 , or at least make the proposal to move away from a staggered board .
Speaker #1: So I would say this these two new board directors , you know , welcome to Jim and Patrick . I'm sure they're on the line .
Speaker #1: I talked to him just last night , and they're excited to be part of the part of the tenant organization , board of directors .
Dave Huml: We're moving forward. It was a constructive set of conversations, and we're really focused on creating maximum value for the business in any way possible as we go forward. Got it. Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Steve.
Speaker #1: And we're moving . We're moving forward . Those are constructive set of conversations . And and we're really focused on creating maximum value for the business in , in any way possible as we go forward
Dave Huml: We're moving forward. It was a constructive set of conversations, and we're really focused on creating maximum value for the business in any way possible as we go forward. Got it. Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Steve.
Speaker #2: Got it . Thanks , Dave .
Speaker #1: Thanks , Steve
Speaker #3: And with no further questions at this time, I would like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.
Operator: With no further questions at this time, I would like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.
Operator: With no further questions at this time, I would like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.
Speaker #1: Thank you . If you'd like to learn more about tenant , we will be participating in the following conferences . This virtual small cap conference on March 19th and the 38th Annual Roth Conference in California on March the 23rd .
Dave Huml: Thank you. If you'd like to learn more about Tennant, we will be participating in the following conferences: the Sidoti Virtual Small Cap Conference on 19 March and the 38th Annual ROTH Conference in California on 23 March. Thank you all for your continued interest in our company. This concludes our earnings call. Hope you have a great day.
Dave Huml: Thank you. If you'd like to learn more about Tennant, we will be participating in the following conferences: the Sidoti Virtual Small Cap Conference on 19 March and the 38th Annual ROTH Conference in California on 23 March. Thank you all for your continued interest in our company. This concludes our earnings call. Hope you have a great day.
Speaker #1: Thank you all for your continued interest in our company . This concludes our earnings call . Hope you have a great day .
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call, and we thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call, and we thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.