Q4 2025 Cactus Inc Earnings Call

February 26, 2026

William Marsh: Marsh, our General Counsel. Please note that any comments we make on today's call regarding projections or expectations for future events are forward-looking statements covered by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We advise listeners to review our earnings release and the risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements we make today are only as of today's date, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update or review any forward-looking statements. During today's call, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release. With that, I'll turn the call over to Scott.

Speaker #1: Our general counsel. Please note that any comments we make on today's call regarding projections or expectations for future events are forward-looking statements covered by the private securities litigation reform act.

Speaker #1: Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations.

Speaker #1: We advise listeners to review our earnings release and the risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC. Any forward-looking statements we make today are only as of today's date and we undertake no obligation to publicly update or review any forward-looking statements.

Speaker #1: In addition, during today's call, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release.

Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn the call over to Scott.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Alan. Good morning to everyone. We finished 2025 with strong performance in both segments. Pressure control revenues and margins exceeded expectations on a strong mix of product sales and a more resilient rig count than anticipated, while spoolable technologies declined seasonally as expected but maintained strong profitability.

Scott Bender: Thanks, Alan. Good morning to everyone. We finished 2025 with strong performance in both segments. Pressure Control revenues and margins exceeded expectations on a strong mix of product sales and a more resilient rig count than anticipated, while Spoolable Technologies declined seasonally, as expected, but maintained strong profitability. Thanks to all of our associates for remaining customer-focused and for delivering excellent performance to close a year that was challenging from a macro perspective and transformational for the company. Some Q4 total company highlights include: revenue of $261 million, adjusted EBITDA of $85 million, adjusted EBITDA margins of 32.7%.

Speaker #2: Thanks to all of our associates for remaining customer-focused and for delivering excellent performance to close a year that was challenging from a macro perspective and transformational for the company.

Speaker #2: Some fourth-quarter total company highlights include revenue of $261 million, adjusted EBITDA of $85 million, adjusted EBITDA margins of 32.7%. We paid a quarterly dividend of 14 cents per share, increased our total cash balance to $495 million, and on January 1, we closed on the acquisition of the majority interest of Baker U's surface pressure control business, which we will refer to as Cactus International.

Scott Bender: We paid a quarterly dividend of $0.14 per share, increased our total cash balance to $495 million, and on 1 January, we closed on the acquisition of the majority interest of Baker Hughes' Surface Pressure Control business, which we will refer to as Cactus International. I'll now turn the call over to Jay Nutt, our CFO, who will review our financial results. Following his remarks, I'll provide some thoughts on our outlook for the near term, pardon me, including the Cactus International business, before opening up the lines for Q&A. Jay?

Speaker #2: I'm now turning the call over to Jay Nutt, our CFO, who will review our financial results. Following his remarks, I'll provide some thoughts on our outlook for the near term—pardon me—including the Cactus International business before opening up the lines for Q&A.

Speaker #2: So, Jay?

Speaker #3: Thank you, Scott. As Scott mentioned, total Q4 revenues were $261 million, which were lower 1% sequentially. Total adjusted EBITDA of $85 million was down 1.7% sequentially.

Jay Nutt: Thank you, Scott. As Scott mentioned, total Q4 revenues were $261 million, which were lower 1% sequentially. Total adjusted EBITDA of $85 million was down 1.7% sequentially. For our Pressure Control segment, revenues of $178 million were up 5.8% sequentially, driven primarily by higher levels of products sold per rig followed and improved rental revenues on increased customer activity. Operating income increased $4.1 million or 9.3% sequentially, with operating margins expanding 90 basis points. Adjusted segment EBITDA was $4 million or 7.2% higher sequentially, with margins improving by 50 basis points. The margin increase was due to a fuller benefit of cost reduction initiatives as compared to Q3.

Speaker #3: For our pressure control segment, revenues of $178 million were up 5.8% sequentially, driven primarily by higher levels of products sold per rig followed and improved rental revenues on increased customer activity.

Speaker #3: Operating income increased $4.1 million, or 9.3% sequentially, with operating margins expanding 90 basis points. Adjusted segment EBITDA was $4 million, or 7.2% higher sequentially, with margins improving by 50 basis points.

Speaker #3: The margin increase was due to a fuller benefit of cost reduction initiatives as compared to the third quarter. We believe our US pressure control business is performing at its highest level since the inception of the company.

Jay Nutt: We believe our US Pressure Control business is performing at its highest level since the inception of the company. For our Spoolable Technologies segment, revenues of $84 million declined 11.6% sequentially, as anticipated, due to lower US customer activity levels in the seasonally slow quarter. Operating income decreased $4.9 million or 18.9% sequentially, with operating margins compressing 220 basis points due to reduced operating leverage. Adjusted segment EBITDA decreased $4.9 million or 13.6% sequentially, while margins declined by 90 basis points. As a reminder, Q2 and Q3 are usually our strongest periods. Corporate and other expenses were $9.7 million in Q4, up $700,000 sequentially, due to increased transaction and integration cost.

Speaker #3: For our spoolable technology segment, revenues of $84 million declined 11.6% sequentially as anticipated due to the lower US customer activity levels in the seasonally slow quarter.

Speaker #3: Operating income decreased 4.9 million dollars, or 18.9% sequentially, with operating margins compressing 220 basis points due to reduced operating leverage. Adjusted segment EBITDA decreased 4.9 million dollars, or 13.6% sequentially, while margins declined by 90 basis points.

Speaker #3: As a reminder, Q2 and Q3 are usually our strongest periods. Corporate and other expenses were 9.7 million dollars in Q4, up 700,000 dollars sequentially, due to increased transaction and integration cost.

Speaker #3: Adjusted corporate EBITDA moved unfavorably in Q4 by a half a million dollars to 4.7 million dollars of expense. On a total company basis, fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA was $85 million, down 1.7% from $87 million during the third quarter.

Jay Nutt: Adjusted corporate EBITDA moved unfavorably in Q4 by a half a million dollars to $4.7 million of expense. On a total company basis, Q4 adjusted EBITDA was $85 million, down 1.7% from $87 million during Q3. Adjusted EBITDA margins for the quarter were 32.7%, compared to 32.9% for Q3. Adjustments to total company EBITDA during Q4 included a non-cash charge of $6 million in stock-based compensation, $3.3 million for transaction-related professional fees and expenses, $164,000 for additional restructuring actions to rightsize the organization in response to the lower activity levels, and a $1 million loss related to the revaluation of the TRA liability.

Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA margins for the quarter were 32.7% compared to 32.9% for the third quarter. Adjustments to total company EBITDA during the fourth quarter included a non-cash charge of $6 million in stock-based compensation, $3.3 million for transaction-related professional fees and expenses, $164,000 for additional restructuring actions to rightsize the organization in response to the lower activity levels, and a $1 million loss related to the revaluation of the TRA liability.

Speaker #3: Depreciation and amortization expense for the fourth quarter was $16 million, which included $4 million of amortization expense related to the intangible assets resulting from the FlexSteel acquisition.

Jay Nutt: Depreciation and amortization expense for Q4 was $16 million, which included $4 million of amortization expense related to the intangible assets resulting from the FlexSteel acquisition. During Q4, the public or Class A ownership of the company averaged and ended the quarter at 86%. GAAP net income was $48 million in Q4 versus $50 million during Q3. The decrease was largely driven by lower operating income and the loss booked for the revaluation of the TRA. Book income tax expense during Q4 was $14 million, resulting in an effective tax rate of 22%. Adjusted net income and earnings per share were $52 million and $0.65 per share, respectively, during Q4 versus $54 million and $0.67 in Q3.

Speaker #3: During the fourth quarter, the public or Class A ownership of the company averaged and ended the quarter at 86%. GAAP net income was $48 million in the fourth quarter versus $50 million during the third quarter.

Speaker #3: The decrease was largely driven by lower operating income and the loss booked for the revaluation of the TRA. Book income tax expense during the fourth quarter was $14 million, resulting in an effective tax rate of 22%.

Speaker #3: Adjusted net income and earnings per share were $52 million, and 65 cents per share, respectively, during the fourth quarter versus $54 million and 67 cents in the third quarter.

Speaker #3: Adjusted net income for the fourth quarter and the full year 2025 were net of a 25% tax rate applied to our adjusted pre-tax income.

Jay Nutt: Adjusted net income for Q4 and the full year 2025 were net of a 25% tax rate applied to our adjusted pre-tax income. During Q4, we paid a quarterly dividend of $0.14 per share, resulting in a cash outflow of approximately $11 million, including related distributions to members. We also made a cash TRA payment of $23 million following completion of the 2024 tax filings during Q4. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $495 million, including $371 million of cash held in escrow to facilitate the closure of the Baker SPC acquisition on 1 January. The cash balance represented a sequential increase of $49 million, despite the TRA payment and transaction-related disbursements associated with the acquisition.

Speaker #3: During the fourth quarter, we paid a quarterly dividend of $0.14 per share, resulting in a cash outflow of approximately $11 million, including related distributions to members.

Speaker #3: We also made a cash TRA payment of $23 million following completion of the 2024 tax filings during the fourth quarter. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $495 million, including $371 million of cash held in escrow to facilitate the closure of the Baker SPC acquisition on January 1st.

Speaker #3: The cash balance represented a sequential increase of $49 million, despite the TRA payment and transaction-related disbursements associated with the acquisition. Net capex was approximately $4 million during the fourth quarter, and net capex for the full year 2025 was $39 million, just under the range guided to in October.

Jay Nutt: Net CapEx was approximately $4 million during Q4. Net CapEx for the full year 2025 was $39 million, just under the range guided to in October. In a moment, Scott will give you our Q1 operational outlook. Some additional financial considerations when looking ahead to Q1 include an effective tax rate of approximately 20% and an estimated tax rate for adjusted EPS of approximately 24%. Our tax rates will be impacted by the ongoing purchase price allocation exercise that will affect reported earnings. I would also like to further explain our reporting structure following the Cactus International acquisition. Full results of Cactus International on a 100% basis will be included in our Pressure Control segment going forward.

Speaker #3: In a moment, Scott will give you our first quarter operational outlook. Some additional financial considerations when looking ahead to the first quarter include an effective tax rate of approximately 20% and an estimated tax rate for adjusted EPS of approximately 24%.

Speaker #3: Our tax rates will be impacted by the ongoing purchase price allocation exercise that will affect reported earnings. I would also like to further explain our reporting structure following the Cactus International acquisition.

Speaker #3: Full results of Cactus International on a 100% basis will be included in our Pressure Control segment going forward. Additionally, a pro forma illustrated balance sheet and income statement as of September 30, 2025, will be filed before the end of the first quarter, including the initial purchase price accounting-related adjustments and details.

Jay Nutt: Additionally, a pro forma illustrated balance sheet and income statement as of 30 September 2025, will be filed before the end of Q1, including the initial purchase price, accounting-related adjustments and details. Total depreciation and amortization expense during Q1 is expected to be $21 million, $12 million of which is associated with our Pressure Control segment, including Cactus International, and $9 million in Spoolable Technologies. The Pressure Control DNA guide includes our preliminary estimates regarding purchase price, accounting write-ups to fixed assets and intangible assets. Our full year 2026 net CapEx expectations are in the range of $40 to $50 million, including our investments at Cactus International.

Speaker #3: Total depreciation and amortization expense during the first quarter is expected to be $21 million, $12 million of which is associated with our pressure control segment, including Cactus International, and $9 million in spoolable technologies.

Speaker #3: The pressure control DNA guide includes our preliminary estimates regarding purchase price accounting write-ups to fixed assets and intangible assets. Our full year 2026 net capex expectations are in the range of $40 to $50 million, including our investments in Cactus at Cactus International.

Speaker #3: Continued manufacturing efficiency investments in FlexSteel, routine U.S. branch facility upgrades, and the completion of our Saudi Arabia wellhead facility enhancements initiated in 2025 are the primary drivers of the planned spend.

Jay Nutt: Continued manufacturing efficiency investments in FlexSteel, routine US branch facility upgrades, and the completion of our Saudi Arabia wellhead facility enhancements initiated in 2025, are the primary drivers of the planned spend. 2026 anticipated CapEx is largely in line with 2025 spend, despite the addition of Cactus International. Finally, as previously announced, the board approved a quarterly dividend of $0.14 per share, which will be paid in March. That covers the financial review, and I'll now turn the call back over to Scott.

Speaker #3: 2026 anticipated capex is largely in line with 2025 spend, despite the addition of Cactus International. Finally, as previously announced, the board approved a quarterly dividend of $0.14 per share, which would be paid in March.

Speaker #3: That concludes the financial review, and I'll now turn the call back over to Scott.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Jay. I'll now touch on our expectations for the first quarter by individual reporting segment and provide some introduction to historical and future trends in our Cactus International business.

Scott Bender: Thank you, Jay. I'll now touch on our expectations for Q1 by individual reporting segment and provide some introduction to historical and future trends in our Cactus International business. During Q1, we expect total Pressure Control revenue to be approximately $295 to 305 million. In North America, we see stable drilling and completion activity, and we expect modestly softer sales on lower levels of products sold per rig, following the high rates achieved in Q4 of last year. International sales are expected to contribute approximately $130 to 140 million to Pressure Control in Q1. Adjusted EBITDA margins in our Pressure Control segment are expected to be 23% to 25% for Q1.

Speaker #1: During the first quarter, we expect total pressure control revenue to be approximately $295 to $305 million. In North America, we see stable drilling and completion activity, and we are on lower levels of products sold per rig following the high rates achieved in the fourth quarter of last year.

Speaker #1: International sales are expected to contribute approximately a $130 to $140 million to pressure control in the first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margins and our pressure control segment are expected to be $23 to $25% for the first quarter.

Speaker #1: This adjusted EBITDA guidance excludes approximately $4 million of stock-based compensation expense, within the segment, and the expected amortization of the write-up of Cactus International inventory due to purchase price accounting.

Scott Bender: This adjusted EBITDA guidance excludes approximately $4 million of stock-based compensation expense within the segment and the expected amortization of the write-up of Cactus International inventory due to purchase price accounting. Margins are expected to decline from those achieved in Q4, due almost entirely to the inclusion of Cactus International. The tariff environment as it applies to our imports in the US had stabilized over the last several months, while future costs now appear to be trending down slightly, but remain far from certain. To be clear, tariffs implemented under Sections 301 and 232 still total 75% on the majority of goods imported from China. Our Vietnam facility, where Section 232 tariffs remain at 50%, is ramping up in Q1, with API certification now expected early in Q2.

Speaker #1: Margins are expected to decline from those achieved in the fourth quarter to almost entirely to the inclusion of Cactus International. The tariff environment as it applies to our imports to the US, head stabilized over the last several months.

Speaker #1: While future costs now appear to be trending down slightly, but remain far from certain, to be clear, tariffs implemented under Sections 301 and 232 still total 75% on the majority of goods imported from China.

Speaker #1: Our Vietnam facility or Section 232 tariffs remain at 50% is ramping up in Q1 with API certification now expected early in the second quarter, this should allow us to progress the displacement of shipments into the US from China from China later this year as planned.

Scott Bender: This should allow us to progress the displacement of shipments into the US from China later this year as planned. I'd also like to take this opportunity to explain trends in the Cactus International business over the course of 2025 and through early 2026. As previously disclosed, the company closed 2024 with over $600 million in backlog. In 2025, the company recorded $627 million of revenue, including a substantial amount associated with unbilled revenue, and the backlog ended 2025 at approximately $550 million. Considering this order slowdown, we see the full year 2026 as being more in line with previously announced 2024 results from both the revenue and adjusted EBITDA perspective. We are anticipating increased order activity in the second half of 2026 and into 2027.

Speaker #1: I'd also like to take this opportunity to explain trends in the Cactus International business over the course of 2025 and through early 2026. As previously disclosed, the company closed 2024 with over $600 million in backlog.

Speaker #1: In 2025, the company recorded $627 million of revenue including a substantial amount associated with unbilled revenue. And the backlog ended 2025 at approximately $550 million.

Speaker #1: Considering this order slowdown, we see the full year 2026 as being more in line with previously announced 2024 results from both the revenue and adjusted EBITDA perspective.

Speaker #1: We are anticipating increased order activity in the second half of 2026 and into 2027. Having owned Cactus International business for nearly two months at this point, we remain very pleased with our decision to pursue this transformational acquisition.

Scott Bender: Having owned Cactus International business for nearly two months at this point, we remain very pleased with our decision to pursue this transformational acquisition. As we shared since announcing the agreement in June of last year, we believe there are even more opportunities to improve the business, which currently lags its largest competitors in the Middle East from a technology and customer execution standpoint. We believe that our US conventional expertise and execution focus will benefit clients throughout the Middle East and are encouraged by early customer responses in the region. More on this next Q. You may recall we announced a target for $10 million of annualized synergies within one year of transaction close, and we now have far better visibility into meaningful supply chain savings in 2027, not incorporated into our original budget as we leverage our US model.

Speaker #1: As we shared since announcing the agreement in June of last year, we believe there are even more opportunities to improve the business, which currently lags its largest competitors in the Middle East from a technology and customer execution standpoint.

Speaker #1: We believe that our US conventional expertise and execution focus will benefit clients throughout the Middle East and are encouraged by early customer responses in the region.

Speaker #1: More on this next quarter. You may recall we announced the target for $10 million of annualized synergies within one year of transaction close. And we now have far better visibility into meaningful supply chain savings in 2027, not incorporated into our original budget as we leverage our US model.

Speaker #1: Such actions will take more time to achieve due to the timing of order placements and this long cycle business. We intend to share more on this topic over the next two quarters.

Scott Bender: Such actions will take more time to achieve due to the timing of order placements in this long cycle business. We intend to share more on this topic over the next two quarters. Switching over to Spoolable Technologies, we are proud of how we finished 2025, with another strong quarter of international shipments, which led to a record level of international products sold in 2025. Despite accelerating strength in international orders, we expect Q1 revenue to be down mid-single digits relative to Q4 on continued North American seasonality, similar to what we saw in 2025, as our customers have been slow to increase activity through January and early February. We expect adjusted EBITDA margins to be approximately 33% to 35% in Q1, which excludes $1 million of stock-based comp in the segment.

Speaker #1: technologies, we are proud of how we finished 2025 with another strong quarter of international shipments, which led to a record level of international products sold in 2025.

Speaker #1: Despite accelerating strength in international orders, we expect first quarter revenue to be down mid-single digits relative to the fourth quarter on continued North American seasonality similar to what we saw in 2025 as our customers have been slow to increase activity through January and early February.

Speaker #1: We expect EBITDA adjusted EBITDA margins to be approximately $33 to $35% in Q1, which excludes $1 million of stock-based comp in the segment. Lower operating leverage and somewhat higher input costs are the primary contributors to the expected step-down in margin.

Scott Bender: Lower operating leverage and somewhat higher input costs are the primary contributors to the expected step down in margin. In addition, we are introducing several new SKUs, which we expect will enhance our market share and improve the moat around our technology in the future. We expect to pilot several of these new SKUs with a large Mideast customer in 2026, which should impact 2027's revenues. Adjusted corporate EBITDA is expected to be a charge of approximately $5 million in Q1, which excludes approximately $2 million of stock-based comp. In closing, our team and I are energized by the formation of the Cactus International Joint Venture, and we're pleased to have a strong footprint in the most important oil and gas service markets in the world, North America and the Mideast. The near-term outlook for domestic and international markets remain soft, which presents short-term challenges to our business.

Speaker #1: In addition, we are introducing several new SKUs, which we expect will enhance our market share and improve the moat around our technology in the future.

Speaker #1: We expect to pilot several of these new SKUs with a large Middle East customer in 2026, which should impact 2027's revenues. Adjusted corporate EBITDA is expected to be a charge of approximately $5 million in Q1, which excludes approximately $2 million of stock-based comp.

Speaker #1: In closing, our team and I are energized by the formation of the Cactus International joint venture and we're pleased to have a strong footprint in the most important oil and gas service markets in the world, North America and the Middle East.

Speaker #1: The near-term outlook for domestic and international markets remains soft, which presents short-term challenges to our business. However, we'll continue to deliver industry-leading margins and returns with a focus on the fundamentals of our business and by introducing our responsive agile customer-focused culture into the Cactus International operation.

Scott Bender: However, we will continue to deliver industry-leading margins and returns with a focus on the fundamentals of our business and by introducing our responsive, agile, customer-focused culture into the Cactus International operation. With that goal in mind, I'm pleased to confirm that Stephen Tadlock has been appointed CEO of Cactus International. Steve has been highly successful in leading our FlexSteel segment and integrating it into Cactus these past several years, which gives me the utmost confidence in his continued success in leading the joint venture through similar cultural shifts. With that, I'll turn it back over to the operator, so we may begin Q&A. Operator?

Speaker #1: With that goal in mind, I'm pleased to confirm that Steve Tadlock has been appointed CEO of Cactus International. Steve has been highly successful in leading our FlexSteel segment and integrating into Cactus these past several years, which gives me the utmost confidence in this continued success in leading the joint venture through similar culture shifts.

Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn it back over to the operator so we may begin Q&A. Operator?

Speaker #2: Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder to ask the question, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Stephen Gengaro. Steve, your line is now open.

Speaker #2: To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. In our first question comes from the line of Steven Gingaro of Steve Phil.

Speaker #2: Your line is not open.

Stephen Gengaro: Thanks. Good morning, everybody.

Speaker #3: Thanks. Good morning, everybody.

Stephen Gengaro: Thanks. Good morning, everybody.

Speaker #4: Good morning, Steven. How are you?

Scott Bender: Morning, Stephen. How are you?

Speaker #3: I'm good, thank you. Hope you're well. I have two things for me. The first, on the Cactus International side—you talked a little bit about the synergies.

Stephen Gengaro: I'm good, thank you. Hope you're well. I have two things from me. The first, on the Cactus International side. You talked a little bit about the synergies. When you think about sort of applying the Cactus way to that business, any guidance on how we should think about margin progression in that business over the next three, four, five quarters?

Speaker #3: When you think about sort of applying the Cactus way to that business, any guidance on how we should think about margin progression in that business over the next three, four, five quarters?

Speaker #4: Well, I think you will see let me start again.

Scott Bender: Let me start again.

Speaker #3: And Baker's not listening. I'm joking.

Stephen Gengaro: Baker's not listening.

Scott Bender: How do you know that?

Stephen Gengaro: I'm joking.

Speaker #4: I think you're reading the transcript. I think that we're going to see very, very meaningful supply chain savings. As we begin to use our own supply chain, the problem with that, Steve, is that most of the orders have been placed for 2026.

Scott Bender: I can read the transcript. I think that we're gonna see very, very meaningful supply chain savings as we begin to use our own supply chain. The problem with that, Steve, is that most of the orders have been placed for 2026. We won't begin to see that margin enhancement until 2027, at which time I think it'll be fairly substantial. In terms of flattening the organization, we can discuss that more perhaps in the next call. You have to understand that after only 2 months, we're still feeling our way through that. I can tell you that, you know, although my teammate kicked me under the table, I'm very optimistic that we'll exceed our projected synergies even for 2026.

Speaker #4: So we won't begin to see that margin enhancement until 2027, at which time I think it'll be fairly substantial. In terms of flattening the organization, we can discuss that more perhaps in the next call, but you have to understand that after only two months, we're still feeling our way through that.

Speaker #4: I can tell you that although my teammate kicked me under the table, I'm very optimistic that we'll exceed our projected synergies even for 2026.

Stephen Gengaro: Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. Then, the other quick question was on the US wellhead side. You know, when you think about just kind of the rig count progressions that we've seen, can you just give us kind of your view of how you see the US activity evolving? You generally have a very good insights into activity in the US, so I'm curious what you're thinking.

Speaker #3: then the other quick question was on the US wellhead side. You know when you think about just kind of the rig count progressions that we've seen, can you just give us kind of your view of how you see the US activity evolving?

Speaker #3: You generally have a very good insight into activity in the US, so I'm curious what you're thinking.

Speaker #4: You mean my unpopular insight into the progression of it? I think that most analysts are around 510, exiting 2026 from 530. This is onshore only.

Scott Bender: You mean my unpopular insight into the progression of it? You know, I think that most analysts are around 510 exiting 2026 from 530. This is onshore only, so we're at 530 now. Most of them have an exit rate of 500 to 510. I think the outlier would be TPH at 475. My personal opinion is we're gonna be in the range of probably 490... because, you know, we have yet to see the full impact of consolidation. I'm always very, very concerned when prices are supported largely by geopolitical factors, because, you know, they can change so rapidly.

Speaker #4: So we're at 530 now. Most of them haven't exit rate of 500 to 510. I think the outlier would be TPH at 475. My personal opinion is we're going to be in the range of probably 490 because we have yet to see the full impact of consolidation and I'm always very, very concerned when prices are supported largely by geopolitical factors because they can change so rapidly.

Speaker #4: I don't know what premium our current oil price places on Iran and Russia but they're having talks today and I really can't predict the outcome of that but that lack of perhaps clarity on that subject makes me nervous.

Scott Bender: I don't know what premium our current well price places on Iran and Russia, you know, they're having talks today. I really can't predict the outcome of that. That lack of perhaps clarity on that subject makes me nervous. We all prefer to rely upon supply and demand. Call it, you know, high $400s.

Speaker #4: We all prefer to rely upon supply and demand. So call it high 400s.

Speaker #3: Great. No, thanks for all the details.

Operator: Great. No, thanks for all the details. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question goes to the line of Scott Gruber of Citigroup. Your line is now open.

Stephen Gengaro: Great. No, thanks for all the details.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question goes to the line of Scott Gruber of Citigroup. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Gruber of Citigroup. Your line is not open.

Speaker #5: Yes, good morning. Good morning. Doing well. I wanted to ask about the international segment. Congrats on the close. Scott, you mentioned orders likely picking up later this year.

Scott Gruber: Yes, good morning.

Scott Bender: How are you doing?

Scott Gruber: Good morning. Doing well. I wanted to ask about the international segment. Congrats on the close. Scott, you mentioned orders likely picking up later this year. I would assume that that likely reflects some increased activity in Saudi. We're also hearing about, you know, additional tenders outstanding across the region. Just how do you think about the growth prospects for the international segment over the next, you know, call it, 3 years or so?

Speaker #5: I would assume that likely reflects an increased activity in Saudi but we're also hearing about additional tenders outstanding across the region. So just how do you think about the growth prospects for the international segment over the next call it three years or so?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Well, Scott, everything is relative. So I think that you're going to see far greater growth prospects particularly in the Mideast that you know that than we're going to see in the US.

Scott Bender: Well, you know, Scott, everything is relative. I think that you're gonna see far greater growth prospects, particularly in the Middle East, you know that, than we're gonna see in the US. You know, we're in a period now, particularly in Saudi, with some destocking. You know, the Saudis order far in advance, and they're on a program right now to increase their cash flow. You can be sure they're gonna be using what they have in stock and moderating. We're already seeing some evidence of that in moderating their forward purchases. They are adding 70 rigs, and that's why I'm so optimistic that 2027 is gonna be considerably better than 2026. In Abu Dhabi, it looks to be very stable.

Speaker #4: So, we're in a period now, particularly in Saudi, with some destocking. The Saudis order far in advance, and they're on a program right now to increase their cash flow.

Speaker #4: So you can be sure they're going to be using what they have in stock and moderating. And we're already seeing some evidence of that in moderating their forward purchases.

Speaker #4: But they are adding 70 rigs and that's why I'm so optimistic that 2027 is going to be considerably better than 2026. In Abu Dhabi, it looks to be very stable.

Scott Bender: I think that Qatar has prospects of improving. I think Kuwait has prospects of improving. I think that as we begin to expand our sales team at internationally, you're gonna see some additional revenue coming out of sub-Saharan Africa. These are areas that were chiefly, I wouldn't say ignored, but they were sidelined by our predecessor. Look to see some improvement from the Far East and for sub-Sahara Africa. In general, I feel much better about it.

Speaker #4: I think that Qatar has prospects of improving. I think Kuwait has prospects of improving. I think that as we begin to expand our sales team at internationally, you're going to see some additional revenue coming out of Sub-Saharan Africa.

Speaker #4: We're also these are areas that we're chiefly I wouldn't say ignored but they were sidelined. By our predecessor. So look to see some improvement from the Far East and for Sub-Sahara Africa.

Speaker #4: So in general, I feel much better about it.

Speaker #5: Good, good. And then you're starting to answer my second question but I wanted to just hear your thoughts around share capture in the Middle East.

Scott Gruber: Good. Good. You're, you're starting to answer my second question, but I wanted to just hear your thoughts around share capture, you know, in the Middle East. Obviously, in the US, you guys are on a pretty steady trajectory for a decade, and you guys, you know, operated in the Middle East in a past life. Just some thoughts, you know, around the puts and takes of picking up share in the region, and kind of the strategy, some thoughts on strategy to go about doing so. I know you don't-

Speaker #5: Obviously, in the US, you guys are on a pretty steady trajectory. For a decade and you guys operated in the Middle East in the past life.

Speaker #5: So just some thoughts around the puts and takes of picking up share in the region and kind of the strategy to some thoughts on strategy to go about doing so.

Speaker #5: I know you don't want to reveal too much but just some thoughts about it.

Scott Bender: Yeah

Scott Gruber: want to reveal too much, but just some thoughts about it.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I think that we see a huge opportunity in Saudi. Because our market share there is well below what it should be at roughly a third.

Scott Bender: Yeah. I think that we see a huge opportunity in Saudi, because our market share there is well below what it should be at, you know, roughly a third. There are a lot of reasons for that, all of which we've identified and are addressing right now. Look to Saudi to be a large market share gain for us going forward. You know, in Abu Dhabi, we share that contract 50/50 with TechnipFMC, but throughout the Middle East, we have quite a few new opportunities, and frankly, these were opportunities that just were not prioritized by the previous management. You know, we've always been really great salespeople at Cactus, and we intend to pursue that strategy in the Middle East as well.

Speaker #4: And that has there are a lot of reasons for that, all of which we've identified and are addressing right now. So look to Saudi for me, to be a large market share gain force going forward.

Speaker #4: In Abu Dhabi, we share that contract, 50-50 with FMC but throughout the Mideast, we have quite a few new opportunities. And frankly, these were opportunities that just were not prioritized by the previous management.

Speaker #4: So we've always been really great salespeople at Cactus, and we intend to pursue that strategy in the Mideast as well.

Speaker #5: Great. Look forward to seeing the results. Thanks, Scott.

Scott Gruber: Great. Look forward to seeing the results. Thanks, Scott.

Speaker #2: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Derek Pottingheiser of Piper Sandler. Your line is not open.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Derek Podhaizer of Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Speaker #4: Good morning.

Scott Bender: Good morning.

Speaker #6: Good morning. Hey, good morning. I guess sticking with the Cactus International, maybe some comments around the aftermarket services piece of Cactus International SPC. I believe in the North Sea, you have a pretty good footprint there.

Derek Podhaizer: Good morning. Hey, good morning. I guess sticking with the Cactus International, maybe some comments around the aftermarket services piece of Cactus International SPC. I believe, North Sea, you have a pretty good footprint there. Just hoping to hear some color on how impactful this is to the business as your installed base grows. You know, I would imagine it's margin accretive. Just maybe some more thoughts and outlooks around the aftermarket piece of the business.

Speaker #6: Just hoping to hear some color on how impactful this is to the business as you're installed base grows I would imagine its margin accretive.

Speaker #6: Just maybe some more thoughts and outlooks around the aftermarket piece of the business.

Speaker #4: That's an excellent question. And one we are intensely focused upon. Legacy vet go great has a huge installed base. So let's forget about increased market penetration and let's think about installed base.

Scott Bender: That's an excellent question, and one we are-

Derek Podhaizer: Thank you.

Scott Bender: ... intensely focused upon. You know, legacy Vetco Gray has a huge installed base. Let's forget about increased market penetration, and let's think about installed base. Right now, we're undergoing an extensive exercise into identifying where Vetco Gray had the largest installed base. That particular area has not been a focus of Baker. They talk about it's the highest margin part of the business, but we see very substantial opportunities, particularly in West Africa, and in the Far East, where Beco Gray had dominant positions. We're gonna be focusing our attention on that. It's honestly been ignored.

Speaker #4: So right now, we're undergoing an extensive exercise into identifying where vet go great had the largest installed base. That particular area has been has not been a focus of Baker they talk about it.

Speaker #4: It's the highest margin part of the business. But we see very substantial opportunities particularly in West Africa and in the Far East where vet go great had dominant positions.

Speaker #4: So we're going to be focusing our attention on that. It's honestly been ignored.

Speaker #6: Got it. No, that's helpful. And then maybe just—I know you've already provided some color and comments around the forward outlook—but just to clarify, '26 should look more like 2024.

Derek Podhaizer: Got it. No, that's helpful. Then maybe just I know you've already provided some color and comments around the forward outlook, but just to clarify, 2026 should look more like 2024. Are you hoping 2027 then looks like what we heard from Baker on their previous call around the 2025 financials? Just trying to think about, you know, how we ramp back to the 2025 levels and when that could come.

Speaker #6: Are you hoping 27 then looks like what we heard from Baker on their previous call around the 2025 financials? Just trying to think about how we ramp back to the 2025 levels and when that could come.

Speaker #4: Yeah. So let me just qualify my statement by telling you that although Baker provided their financial reporting in accordance with GAAP, we differ. And how we report our financials.

Scott Bender: Yeah, let me just qualify my statement by telling you that, although Baker provided their financial reporting in accordance with GAAP, we differ in how we report our financials. If you look at their full year 2025, we underwrote a number substantially below that amount to account for the way we approach our financials. You have to temper your expectations a bit. To answer your question, I think that 2027 will probably be north of the midpoint between 2025 and 2026. The substantial improvement in EBITDA will come from supply chain initiatives.

Speaker #4: So if you look at their full year 2025, we underwrote a number of substantially below that amount. To account for the way we approach our financials.

Speaker #4: So you have to temper your expectations a bit. But to answer your question, I think that 2027 will probably be north of the midpoint between 2025 and 2026.

Speaker #4: The substantial improvement in EBITDA will come from supply chain initiatives.

Speaker #6: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you, Scott.

Derek Podhaizer: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you, Scott.

Scott Bender: This is a big number for us. Okay, thank you.

Speaker #4: This is a big number for us. Okay. Thank you.

Scott Bender: This is a big number for us. Okay, thank you.

Speaker #6: Absolutely. Thank you, Scott.

Derek Podhaizer: Absolutely. Thank you, Scott.

Speaker #2: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Jeffrey LeBlanc of TPH, your line is not open.

Operator: Thank you. We're moving for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff LeBlanc of TPH. Your line is now open.

Speaker #4: Good morning. How are you? Are you there?

Scott Bender: Good morning. How are you? Are you there?

Speaker #2: Hello, Jeffrey. Your line is not open.

Operator: Hello, Jeffrey, your line is now open.

Speaker #7: Good morning.

Jeff LeBlanc: Good morning.

Speaker #4: Good morning. Speak up a little bit, please.

Scott Bender: Good morning. Speak up a little bit, please.

Speaker #7: Excuse me. Sorry. I just wanted to see if you could talk about how you're thinking about US drilling efficiencies because it seems like every year operators continue to find ways to improve cycle times.

Jeff LeBlanc: Excuse me. Sorry.

Scott Bender: Thanks.

Jeff LeBlanc: I just wanted to see if you could talk about how you're thinking about US drilling efficiencies, because it seems like every year operators continue to find ways to improve cycle times. What inning you think we are, though, for y'all, it's somewhat agnostic, given that you're well count levered, but just kind of curious your thoughts on continued drilling efficiencies in the United-

Speaker #7: And what inning you think we are though for y'all. It's somewhat agnostic given that your well count leverage. But just kind of curious your thoughts on continued drilling efficiencies in the United States.

Scott Bender: You know, I get asked this question it seems like every year, and we all think that increased drilling efficiencies are behind us, and we're always very surprised. We are seeing greater efficiencies. We certainly saw them in 2025, which translates, frankly, into more wells per rig. The best proxy for our business is really wells drilled, not rig count. When we do our budget, we think about wells drilled. It's just that it's so much easier to use rig count as a proxy. Where we go from here, I don't know. You know, I think that some of our very large customers have deployed some very interesting technology, and I think that you'll see over time that some of the smaller operators will mimic that. I'm actually pretty bullish on increased efficiencies.

Speaker #4: I get asked this question—it seems like every year. And we all think that increased drilling efficiencies are behind us, and we're always very surprised. So, we are seeing greater efficiencies.

Speaker #4: We certainly saw them in 2025, which translates, frankly, into more wells per rig. So, the best proxy for our business is really wells drilled, not rig count.

Speaker #4: And when we do our budget, we think about wells drilled it's just that it's so much easier to use rig count as a proxy.

Speaker #4: Where we go from here? I don't know. But I think that some of our very large customers have deployed some very interesting technology and I think that you'll see over time that some of the smaller operators will mimic that.

Speaker #4: So I'm actually pretty bullish on increased efficiencies.

Speaker #7: Okay. Thank you very much. I'll hand the call back to the operator.

Jeff LeBlanc: Okay. Thank you very much. I'll hand the call back to the operator.

Speaker #4: Thanks.

Scott Bender: Thanks.

Speaker #2: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Don Christ of Johnson Rights. Your line is not open.

Operator: Thank you. We're moving for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Don Crist of Johnson Rice. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Good morning, guys. I wanted to ask about Vietnam and kind of API certification. I know it's been a quarter or two since you talked about that.

Don Crist: Morning, guys. I wanted to ask about Vietnam and kind of API certification. I know it's been a quarter or two since you talked about that, and what kind of margin impact that could have as you're, you know, importing those pieces and parts to the US today that have to be, you know, go through a different step before they're actually sold. Can you talk about that some?

Speaker #5: And what kind of margin impact that could have as you're importing those pieces and parts to the US today that have to be go through a different step before they're actually sold.

Speaker #5: Can you talk about that some?

Speaker #4: Well, keep in mind that in the ever-changing landscape of tariffs, Vietnam is going to be we expect about 25% percentage points lower than the tariffs out of China.

Scott Bender: Well, keep in mind that in the ever-changing landscape of tariffs, Vietnam is going to be, we expect about 25 percentage points lower than the tariffs out of China. If you consider, I don't know, can we talk about how much we paid in tariffs? No. Okay.

Speaker #4: So if you consider I don't know. Can we talk about how much we paid in tariffs? No? Okay. Well, if you consider the volumes that we were bringing in from China and as we displace that from Vietnam, I think it's going to be pretty substantial.

Don Crist: Mm-hmm.

Scott Bender: Well, if you consider the volumes that we were bringing in from China, and as we displace that from Vietnam, I think it's gonna be pretty substantial, particularly in 2027. In terms of API certification, we have already begun to move product from Vietnam into the US, and then we're applying the necessary value added in Bossier City, to apply the Bossier City monogram. We've already gotten through the first stage of our API certification in Vietnam. Joel, now we expect the second part of the audit to occur when?

Speaker #4: Particularly in 2027. In terms of API certification, we have already begun to move product from Vietnam into the US and then we're applying the necessary value-added in Mosier City to apply the Mosier City monogram.

Speaker #4: We've already gotten through the first stage of our API certification in Vietnam. And Joel, now we expect the second part of the audit to occur when?

[Company Representative] (Cactus): It's in process as we speak. It's supposed to finish this week, and then the, you know, we'll get reports back from API. I would say, you know, pending the results, another 30, 60 days before we actually have the Monogram.

Speaker #8: It's in process as we speak. It's supposed to finish this week, and then we'll get reports back from API. So I would say, pending the results, another 30 to 60 days before we actually have the monogram.

Speaker #4: Okay. So once we we're still operating as quickly as we can. But we're constrained by not having that monogram in place. So I can't talk about.

Scott Bender: Okay. you know, once we're still operating as quickly as we can, we're constrained by not having that Monogram in place.

Don Crist: Right, that should boost margins, right?

Speaker #5: Right. That should boost margins, right?

Speaker #4: Absolutely. So Vietnam is inherently lower cost than China. And then you apply the tariff differential. And that boosts the effective margin even higher.

Scott Bender: Absolutely. Vietnam is inherently lower cost than China, and then you apply the tariff differential, and that boosts the effective margin even higher.

Speaker #5: Right. Okay. That's what I thought. Good to hear. And one quick one on North Africa. I know you talked about Sub-Saharan Africa. But we're hearing a lot of operators start to talk about Algeria and Egypt and other places, Turkey, etc.

Don Crist: Right. Okay. That's what I thought. Good to hear. One quick one on North Africa. I know you talked about Sub-Saharan Africa, you know, we're hearing a lot of operators start to talk about Algeria and Egypt and other places, Turkey, et cetera, in that area. Do y'all have an installed base that you got with the international acquisition that could grow that meaningfully over the next couple of years?

Speaker #5: in that area. Do y'all have an installed base that you got with the international acquisition that could grow that meaningfully over the next couple of years?

Speaker #4: Yes, indeed.

Scott Bender: Yes, indeed.

Speaker #5: I appreciate the color. Thank you.

Don Crist: I appreciate the color. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'll now turn it back to Scott Bender, Chairman and CEO, for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'll now turn it back to Scott Bender, Chairman and CEO, for closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Okay, everybody, I want to thank you very much for your attention. And we look forward, in the coming quarters, to giving you more visibility into what we expect on a go-forward basis with Cactus International.

Scott Bender: Okay, everybody, I want to thank you very much for your attention. We look forward in the coming quarters of giving you more visibility into what we expect on a go-forward basis with Cactus International. Thanks a lot. Have a good day.

Speaker #4: Thanks a lot. Have a good day.

Operator: Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.

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