Q4 2025 Aebi Schmidt Holding AG Earnings Call
Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Aebi Schmidt Group Q4 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there'll be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one and one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Simone Grancini, Director Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #1: I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Simone Grancini, Investor Relations Director. Please go ahead.
Simone Grancini: Thank you, Sharon. Good morning, and welcome to the Aebi Schmidt Q4 and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. I'm Simone Grancini, the company's Investor Relations Director. Joining me on the call today are Barend Fruithof, Group CEO, who will provide the Q4 and full year highlights, outlook, and concluding remarks. Steffen Schewerda, CEO North America, and Henning Schroeder, CEO Europe and Rest of World, who will detail the performance in the respective segments. Marco Portmann, Group CFO, who will provide a financial overview. Before I turn the call over to Barend, I remind you that today's comments include forward-looking statements subject to the safe harbor language contained in this morning's press release and in Aebi Schmidt's filings with the SEC. With that, I hand the call over to Barend.
Simone Grancini: Thank you, Sharon. Good morning, and welcome to the Aebi Schmidt Q4 and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. I'm Simone Grancini, the company's Investor Relations Director. Joining me on the call today are Barend Fruithof, Group CEO, who will provide the Q4 and full year highlights, outlook, and concluding remarks. Steffen Schewerda, CEO North America, and Henning Schroeder, CEO Europe and Rest of World, who will detail the performance in the respective segments. Marco Portmann, Group CFO, who will provide a financial overview. Before I turn the call over to Barend, I remind you that today's comments include forward-looking statements subject to the safe harbor language contained in this morning's press release and in Aebi Schmidt's filings with the SEC. With that, I hand the call over to Barend.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Sharon. Good morning, and welcome to the Aebi Schmidt fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings call. I'm Simone Grancini, the company's investor relations director.
Speaker #2: Joining me on the call today are Baron Pruithof, Group CEO, who will provide the fourth quarter and full year highlights, outlook, and concluding remarks.
Speaker #2: Stephen Cheverda, CEO North America, and Henning Schröder, CEO Europe and Rest of World, who will detail the performance in their respective segments, and Marco Portman, Group CFO, who will provide a financial overview.
Speaker #2: Before I turn the call over to Baron, I remind you that today's comments include forward-looking statements, subject to the Safe Harvard language, contained in this morning's press release, and in Aebi Schmidt's filings with the SEC.
Speaker #2: And with that, I end the call over to Baron.
Barend Fruithof: Good morning, everyone. 2025 was a historical year for Aebi Schmidt, marked by the acquisition of the former Shyft Group and our listing on Nasdaq. I'm extremely proud of our Q4 performance. As we see on page 5, our order intake increased 46% in the Q4 versus 2024, and we ended 2025 with a record high quarter backlog. Our adjusted EBITDA increased 31% year-over-year for the full year, delivering a significantly higher adjusted EBITDA margin of 9.1% versus 7.4% in the prior year. Our strong cash flow enabled us to reduce our leverage to 2.8x, strengthening our balance sheet heading into 2026. I thank our employees for their exceptional contribution and our customers for their continued trust.
Barend Fruithof: Good morning, everyone. 2025 was a historical year for Aebi Schmidt, marked by the acquisition of the former Shyft Group and our listing on Nasdaq. I'm extremely proud of our Q4 performance. As we see on page 5, our order intake increased 46% in the Q4 versus 2024, and we ended 2025 with a record high quarter backlog. Our adjusted EBITDA increased 31% year-over-year for the full year, delivering a significantly higher adjusted EBITDA margin of 9.1% versus 7.4% in the prior year. Our strong cash flow enabled us to reduce our leverage to 2.8x, strengthening our balance sheet heading into 2026. I thank our employees for their exceptional contribution and our customers for their continued trust.
Speaker #3: Good morning, everyone. 2025 was a historical year for Aebi Schmidt, marked by the acquisition of the former Shift Group and our listing on Nostoc.
Speaker #3: I'm extremely proud of our fourth quarter performance. As we see on page five, our order intake increased 46% in the fourth quarter versus 2024.
Speaker #3: And we ended 2025 with a record high order backlog. Our adjusted EBITDA increased 31% year over year for the fourth quarter, delivering a significantly higher adjusted EBITDA margin of 9.1% versus 7.4% in the prior year.
Speaker #3: And our strong cash flow enabled us to reduce our leverage to 2.8 times, strengthening our balance sheet, heading into 2026. I thank our employees for their exceptional contribution and our customers for their continued trust.
Barend Fruithof: On page six, I provide you with some more details on these outstanding achievements. Our exceptional order momentum was driven by strong orders in airport and municipal, and especially by a recovery in the walk-in van orders. We believe this reflects a structural recovery in demand. On the other hand, we expect a continued softness in truck body and commercial markets, with only a slow recovery in 2026. In terms of net sales, our Q4 grew 6% versus prior year. A 5% decline in legacy Shyft was more than offset by the rest of the group. Europe and the rest of the world was a strong contributor to this performance, with substantial organic growth in almost flat market.
Barend Fruithof: On page six, I provide you with some more details on these outstanding achievements. Our exceptional order momentum was driven by strong orders in airport and municipal, and especially by a recovery in the walk-in van orders. We believe this reflects a structural recovery in demand. On the other hand, we expect a continued softness in truck body and commercial markets, with only a slow recovery in 2026. In terms of net sales, our Q4 grew 6% versus prior year. A 5% decline in legacy Shyft was more than offset by the rest of the group. Europe and the rest of the world was a strong contributor to this performance, with substantial organic growth in almost flat market.
Speaker #3: On page six, I provide you with some more details on this outstanding achievements. Our exceptional order momentum was driven by strong orders in airport and municipal, and especially by a recovery in the walk-in van orders.
Speaker #3: We believe this reflects a structural recovery in demand. On the other hand, we expect a continued softness in truck body and commercial markets, with only a slow recovery in 2026.
Speaker #3: In terms of net sales, our fourth quarter grew 6% versus prior year. A 5% decline in legacy shift was more than offset by the rest of the group.
Speaker #3: Europe and the rest of the world was a strong contributor to this performance, with substantial organic growth in almost flat market. We also accelerated and increased the cost synergies from the acquisition of Shift with an additional procurement and revenue synergy expected to materialize in the second half of 2026.
Barend Fruithof: We also accelerated and increased the cost synergies from the acquisition of Shyft with an additional procurement and revenue synergy expected to materialize in the second half of 2026. Ultimately, our Adjusted EBITDA improved by 31% in Q4 2025 compared to Q4 2024. Europe contributed to this with an outstanding 234% increase year-over-year. Continuing on page seven, we look at the foundations we have built that will deliver our 2026 growth paths. First, our M&A strategy continues to deliver, and this goes beyond the Shyft acquisition. Both our smaller acquisition, LWS in the US and Loadtec in Germany, continue to provide outsized growth to the group, and we see further opportunities for small bolt-on acquisitions. Second, we have launched multiple new products.
Barend Fruithof: We also accelerated and increased the cost synergies from the acquisition of Shyft with an additional procurement and revenue synergy expected to materialize in the second half of 2026. Ultimately, our Adjusted EBITDA improved by 31% in Q4 2025 compared to Q4 2024. Europe contributed to this with an outstanding 234% increase year-over-year. Continuing on page seven, we look at the foundations we have built that will deliver our 2026 growth paths. First, our M&A strategy continues to deliver, and this goes beyond the Shyft acquisition. Both our smaller acquisition, LWS in the US and Loadtec in Germany, continue to provide outsized growth to the group, and we see further opportunities for small bolt-on acquisitions. Second, we have launched multiple new products.
Speaker #3: Ultimately, our adjusted EBITDA improved by 31% in the fourth quarter of 2025 compared to the fourth quarter of 2024. Europe contributed to this with an outstanding 234% increase year over year.
Speaker #3: Continuing on page seven, we look at the foundations we have built that will deliver our 2026 growth path. First, our M&A strategy continues to deliver and this goes beyond the Shift acquisition, both our smaller acquisition LWS in the US and Lotto in Germany continue to provide outsized growth to the group and we see further opportunities for small bolt-on acquisitions.
Speaker #3: Second, we have launched multiple new products. This includes the first service body jointly developed by Monroe and Royal presented last week at the NTA.
Barend Fruithof: This includes the first service body jointly developed by Monroe and Royal, presented last week at the NTEA. The launch of new compact airport products to enlarge our addressable market, and we are exploring to design a more cost-competitive offering of our Blue Work truck. Finally, we opened new locations and secured major first-time customers, which will support revenue and profitability in the second half of 2026. Let's also briefly look at our brands on page 8. We're simplifying our brand architecture, sharpening our market presence, and sending a clear signal that we are one powerful group. This makes it easier for our customer to navigate the group's broad range of solutions, simplifies customer engagement, and allows us to communicate in a more meaningful and cost-effective way. Now I turn the call over to Steffen.
Barend Fruithof: This includes the first service body jointly developed by Monroe and Royal, presented last week at the NTEA. The launch of new compact airport products to enlarge our addressable market, and we are exploring to design a more cost-competitive offering of our Blue Work truck. Finally, we opened new locations and secured major first-time customers, which will support revenue and profitability in the second half of 2026. Let's also briefly look at our brands on page 8. We're simplifying our brand architecture, sharpening our market presence, and sending a clear signal that we are one powerful group. This makes it easier for our customer to navigate the group's broad range of solutions, simplifies customer engagement, and allows us to communicate in a more meaningful and cost-effective way. Now I turn the call over to Steffen.
Speaker #3: The launch of new compact airport products to enlarge our addressable market and we are exploring to design a more cost-competitive offering of our BlueRock truck.
Speaker #3: Finally, we opened new locations and secured major first-time customers, which will support revenue and profitability in the second half of 2026. That's also briefly a look at our brands on page eight.
Speaker #3: We're simplifying our brand architecture, sharpening our market presence, and sending a clear signal that we are one powerful group. This makes it easier for our customer to navigate the group's broad range of solutions, simplifies customer engagement, and allows us to communicate in a more meaningful and cost-effective way.
Speaker #3: And now I turn the call over to Stephen.
Steffen Schewerda: Thank you, Barend. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for having me. We're on page 10. To put it in one sentence, 2025 was an outstanding year, especially in terms of order momentum. Our airport business is seeing very strong order entry, also supported by the launch of our new products. These products are gaining really nice traction, and first deliveries have been made to customers already. On the walk-in van side, we see a recovery of the market combined with what we believe is market share growth. On the commercial side, we see some softness, which we are able to partially offset by stronger fleet demands. Our municipal segment shows very strong quoting and order entry, that confirms our strategy to expand our geographical footprint. Slide 11, please.
Steffen Schewerda: Thank you, Barend. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for having me. We're on page 10. To put it in one sentence, 2025 was an outstanding year, especially in terms of order momentum. Our airport business is seeing very strong order entry, also supported by the launch of our new products. These products are gaining really nice traction, and first deliveries have been made to customers already. On the walk-in van side, we see a recovery of the market combined with what we believe is market share growth. On the commercial side, we see some softness, which we are able to partially offset by stronger fleet demands. Our municipal segment shows very strong quoting and order entry, that confirms our strategy to expand our geographical footprint. Slide 11, please.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Baron. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for having me. We are on page number 10. So to put it in one sentence, 2025 was an outstanding year especially in terms of order momentum.
Speaker #2: Our airport business is seeing very strong order entry, also supported by the launch of our new products. These products are gaining really nice traction and first deliveries have been made to customers already.
Speaker #2: On the walk-in van side, we see a recovery of the market combined with what we believe is market share growth. On the commercial side, we see some softness, which we are able to partially offset by stronger fleet demands.
Speaker #2: And our municipal segment shows very strong quoting and order entry. That confirms our strategy to expand our geographical footprint. Slide 11, please. As you can see, our backlog increased by 25% in the fourth quarter versus prior year.
Steffen Schewerda: As you can see, our backlog increased by 25% in Q4 versus prior year. That was driven by a 63% increase year-over-year in order entry. Net sales and adjusted EBITDA in Q4 were slightly below Q4 in 2024. This was mainly driven by the softness in walk-in van and truck bodies, and included ramp-up expenses for walk-in van production and additional locations. Looking at these KPIs, it is clear what the focus points for 2026 are. It is order conversion and profitability. I will explain this a little bit more in detail on the next slide number 12. Based on our strong backlog, we are positioned to deliver growth in 2026, which we expect to accelerate throughout the quarters. On the market side, we expect that we will continue to realize strong order entry.
Steffen Schewerda: As you can see, our backlog increased by 25% in Q4 versus prior year. That was driven by a 63% increase year-over-year in order entry. Net sales and adjusted EBITDA in Q4 were slightly below Q4 in 2024. This was mainly driven by the softness in walk-in van and truck bodies, and included ramp-up expenses for walk-in van production and additional locations. Looking at these KPIs, it is clear what the focus points for 2026 are. It is order conversion and profitability. I will explain this a little bit more in detail on the next slide number 12. Based on our strong backlog, we are positioned to deliver growth in 2026, which we expect to accelerate throughout the quarters. On the market side, we expect that we will continue to realize strong order entry.
Speaker #2: That was driven by a 63% increase year over year in order entry. Net sales and adjusted EBITDA in Q4 were slightly below the fourth quarter in 2024.
Speaker #2: This was mainly driven by the softness in walk-in van and truck bodies. And included ramp-up expenses for walk-in van production and additional locations. And looking at these KPIs, it is clear what the focus points for 2026 are.
Speaker #2: It is order conversion and profitability, and I will explain this a little bit more in detail on the next slide, number 12. So, based on our strong backlog, we are positioned to deliver growth in 2026, which we expect to accelerate throughout the quarters.
Speaker #2: On the market side, we expect that we will continue to realize strong order entry. This is driven by market recovery, market share expansion, and also the introduction of new products.
Steffen Schewerda: This is driven by market recovery, market share expansion, and also the introduction of new products. On the sales conversion side, our new location in Chicago is now fully operational. We are starting to deliver the first municipal snow and ice trucks to a major DOT starting in April. Two new outfit centers in Minneapolis and Toronto are also gaining traction. On the walk-in van side, we are already starting to increase output, which we expect to accelerate in Q2. On the profitability side, we are executing on vertical integration in our commercial segment. In addition, we expect to realize material cost savings in the second half of the year, and our cost structure is being aligned as we speak.
Steffen Schewerda: This is driven by market recovery, market share expansion, and also the introduction of new products. On the sales conversion side, our new location in Chicago is now fully operational. We are starting to deliver the first municipal snow and ice trucks to a major DOT starting in April. Two new outfit centers in Minneapolis and Toronto are also gaining traction. On the walk-in van side, we are already starting to increase output, which we expect to accelerate in Q2. On the profitability side, we are executing on vertical integration in our commercial segment. In addition, we expect to realize material cost savings in the second half of the year, and our cost structure is being aligned as we speak.
Speaker #2: On the sales conversion side, our new location in Chicago is now fully operational. We are starting to deliver the first municipal snow and ice trucks to major DOTs starting in April.
Speaker #2: The new outfit centers in Minneapolis and Toronto are also gaining traction. And on the walk-in van side, we are already starting to increase output, which we expect to accelerate in the second quarter.
Speaker #2: And on the profitability side, we are executing on vertical integration in our commercial segment. In addition, we expect to realize material cost savings in the second half of the year.
Speaker #2: And our cost structure is being aligned as we speak. Our increased output will also result in higher plant efficiencies, of course. And on top of that, we are planning to consolidate some of our warehouses in the Midwest to gain efficiencies in logistics and net working capital.
Steffen Schewerda: Our increased output will also result in higher plant efficiencies, of course, and on top of that, we are planning to consolidate some of our warehouses in the Midwest to gain efficiencies in logistics and working capital. With that being said, thank you, and I hand it over to Henning.
Steffen Schewerda: Our increased output will also result in higher plant efficiencies, of course, and on top of that, we are planning to consolidate some of our warehouses in the Midwest to gain efficiencies in logistics and working capital. With that being said, thank you, and I hand it over to Henning.
Speaker #2: And with that being said, thank you and I hand it over to Henning.
Henning Schroeder: Good morning. I describe 2025 as a landmark year for Europe and the rest of the world in terms of order intake growth and strong profitability development throughout 2025. As written on page 14, our markets are gaining strong traction, particularly in airports, municipal compact sweepers, and agriculture. The airport segment is entering a pivotal year with multiple large tenders expected, fueled by rising defense budgets, driving military-related demand and increasing local content requirements. The municipal sector continues to be powered by compact sweepers, delivering double-digit growth for our core products in 2025. A lot of products have exceeded expectations. We are accelerating our capacity expansion plans, while winter products show a mixed performance due to limited snowfalls across many European countries.
Henning Schröder: Good morning. I describe 2025 as a landmark year for Europe and the rest of the world in terms of order intake growth and strong profitability development throughout 2025. As written on page 14, our markets are gaining strong traction, particularly in airports, municipal compact sweepers, and agriculture. The airport segment is entering a pivotal year with multiple large tenders expected, fueled by rising defense budgets, driving military-related demand and increasing local content requirements. The municipal sector continues to be powered by compact sweepers, delivering double-digit growth for our core products in 2025. A lot of products have exceeded expectations. We are accelerating our capacity expansion plans, while winter products show a mixed performance due to limited snowfalls across many European countries.
Speaker #3: Good morning. I describe 2025 as a landmark year for Europe and the rest of the world in terms of order intake growth, and strong profitability development throughout 2025.
Speaker #3: As written on page 14, our markets are gaining strong traction, particularly in airport, municipal, compact sweepers, and agriculture. The airport segment is entering a pivotal year with multiple large tenders expected, fueled by rising defense budgets driving military-related demand, and increasing local content requirements.
Speaker #3: The municipal sector continues to be powered by compact sweepers, delivering double-digit growth for our core products in 2025. Lotto products have exceeded expectations; we are accelerating our capacity expansion plans, while winter products show a mixed performance due to limited snowfalls across many European countries.
Henning Schroeder: Agricultural products showed strong momentum in 2025, growing more than 30% versus 2024, supported by the rollout of the new generation of Aebi Combicut motor mowers. Slide 15, please. In Q4, we sustained growth in order intake and delivered a significant 25% year-over-year sales increase driven by airport, municipal, and spare parts. I'm especially proud of the team for delivering an exceptional 234% year-over-year increase in profitability, an outstanding achievement powered by strong volumes, solid growth margin performance, and disciplined OpEx control. Proceeding to page 16. Our strong 2025 performance provides the foundation for positive year-over-year quarterly and sequential improvement throughout 2026.
Henning Schröder: Agricultural products showed strong momentum in 2025, growing more than 30% versus 2024, supported by the rollout of the new generation of Aebi Combicut motor mowers. Slide 15, please. In Q4, we sustained growth in order intake and delivered a significant 25% year-over-year sales increase driven by airport, municipal, and spare parts. I'm especially proud of the team for delivering an exceptional 234% year-over-year increase in profitability, an outstanding achievement powered by strong volumes, solid growth margin performance, and disciplined OpEx control. Proceeding to page 16. Our strong 2025 performance provides the foundation for positive year-over-year quarterly and sequential improvement throughout 2026.
Speaker #3: Agricultural products showed strong momentum in 2025, growing more than 30% worth this 2024, supported by the rollout of the new generation of EBI CombiCut motor mowers.
Speaker #3: Slide 15, please. In Q4, we sustained growth in order intake and delivered a significant 25% year-over-year sales increase driven by airport, municipal, and spare parts.
Speaker #3: I'm especially proud of the team for delivering an exceptional 234% year-over-year increase in profitability—an outstanding achievement powered by strong volumes, solid gross margin performance, and disciplined OPEX control.
Speaker #3: Proceeding to page 16, our strong 2025 performance provides the foundation for positive year-over-year quarterly and sequential improvement throughout 2026. On orders, we expect to leverage our expanded dealer network to accelerate the Europe-wide Lotto rollout, built on strong municipal and agricultural momentum following successful product launches, and capitalize on our centralized airport tender team to secure large global deals and increase win rates.
Henning Schroeder: On orders, we expect to leverage our expanded dealer network to accelerate the Europe-wide launch of rollout, build on strong municipal and agricultural momentum following successful product launches, and capitalize on our centralized airport tender team to secure large global deals and increase win rates. On sales margin, we expect to implement factory efficiency programs and finalize production relocations to reduce material costs. We will utilize our EU pricing engine to optimize margins on spare parts and realize the benefit of implemented price increases across new business and aftermarket segments. On cost control, we expect to capture the benefits of regional back-office consolidation, further leverage our Eastern Europe corporate center, and convert disciplined OpEx management into tangible cost savings. That concludes my comments, and I turn it over to Marco.
Henning Schröder: On orders, we expect to leverage our expanded dealer network to accelerate the Europe-wide launch of rollout, build on strong municipal and agricultural momentum following successful product launches, and capitalize on our centralized airport tender team to secure large global deals and increase win rates. On sales margin, we expect to implement factory efficiency programs and finalize production relocations to reduce material costs. We will utilize our EU pricing engine to optimize margins on spare parts and realize the benefit of implemented price increases across new business and aftermarket segments. On cost control, we expect to capture the benefits of regional back-office consolidation, further leverage our Eastern Europe corporate center, and convert disciplined OpEx management into tangible cost savings. That concludes my comments, and I turn it over to Marco.
Speaker #3: On sales margin, we expect to implement factory efficiency programs and finalize production relocations to reduce material costs. We will utilize our EU pricing engine to optimize margins in spare parts and realize the benefit of implemented price increases across new business and aftermarket segments.
Speaker #3: On cost control, we expect to capture the benefits of regional backoffice consolidation, further leverage our Eastern Europe corporate center, and convert disciplined OPEX management into tangible cost savings.
Speaker #3: That concludes my comments. And I turn it over to Marco.
Marco Portmann: Thanks very much, Henning, and good morning, everyone. As you have heard already, 2025 ended with significant order momentum as we captured many market opportunities following the acquisition of the former Shyft Group. On page 18, we see this exceptional order performance resulting in a very healthy order backlog of over CHF 1.2 billion, up 21% year-over-year and providing good visibility into 2026. We expect to see significant improvements in net sales materializing in the second quarter and especially the second half of 2026 out of that backlog. On the topic of seasonality, our demand cycles generally lead to a strong year-end with a comparatively slow start into a new year. For 2026, we expect this quarter-by-quarter seasonality throughout the year to be even more pronounced than in an average year. More on this later by Barend. Moving on to slide 19.
Marco Portmann: Thanks very much, Henning, and good morning, everyone. As you have heard already, 2025 ended with significant order momentum as we captured many market opportunities following the acquisition of the former Shyft Group. On page 18, we see this exceptional order performance resulting in a very healthy order backlog of over CHF 1.2 billion, up 21% year-over-year and providing good visibility into 2026. We expect to see significant improvements in net sales materializing in the second quarter and especially the second half of 2026 out of that backlog. On the topic of seasonality, our demand cycles generally lead to a strong year-end with a comparatively slow start into a new year. For 2026, we expect this quarter-by-quarter seasonality throughout the year to be even more pronounced than in an average year. More on this later by Barend. Moving on to slide 19.
Speaker #2: Thanks very much, Henning. And good morning, everyone. As you have heard already, 2025 ended with significant order momentum as we captured many market opportunities following the acquisition of the former Shift Group.
Speaker #2: On page 18, we see this exceptional order performance resulting in a very healthy order backlog of over $1.2 billion, up 21% year over year, and providing good visibility into 2026.
Speaker #2: And we expect to see significant improvements in net sales materializing in the second quarter and especially the second half of 2026 out of that backlog.
Speaker #2: On the topic of seasonality, our demand cycles generally lead to a strong year-end with a comparatively slow start into a new year. For 2026, we expect this quarter-by-quarter seasonality throughout the year to be even more pronounced than in an average year, more on this later by Barend.
Speaker #2: Moving on to slide 19. Net sales in the fourth quarter reached $528 million, representing a 6% year-over-year increase and bringing full-year sales to $1.9 billion, a 2% increase compared to 2024.
Marco Portmann: Net sales in Q4 reached CHF 528 million, representing a 6% year-over-year increase and bringing full-year sales to CHF 1.9 billion, a 2% increase compared to 2024. Looking at our Q4 net sales in a bit more detail. Sales in North America decreased 2% versus Q4 2024 due to the pronounced weakness in the acquired Shyft businesses with a 5% decline, which could not be fully compensated by the 2% growth in the legacy AB North American businesses. Sales in Europe and the rest of the world increased by a notable 25%, contributing to over 1/3 of total net sales in Q4. Looking at profitability on slide 20.
Marco Portmann: Net sales in Q4 reached CHF 528 million, representing a 6% year-over-year increase and bringing full-year sales to CHF 1.9 billion, a 2% increase compared to 2024. Looking at our Q4 net sales in a bit more detail. Sales in North America decreased 2% versus Q4 2024 due to the pronounced weakness in the acquired Shyft businesses with a 5% decline, which could not be fully compensated by the 2% growth in the legacy AB North American businesses. Sales in Europe and the rest of the world increased by a notable 25%, contributing to over 1/3 of total net sales in Q4. Looking at profitability on slide 20.
Speaker #2: Looking at our fourth-quarter net sales in a bit more detail, sales in North America decreased 2% versus the fourth quarter 2024, due to the pronounced weakness in the acquired Shift businesses, with a 5% decline, which could not be fully compensated by the 2% growth in the legacy ABI North American businesses.
Speaker #2: Sales in Europe and the rest of the world increased by a notable 25%, contributing to over one-third of total net sales in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #2: Looking at profitability on slide 20, on a full-year pro forma basis, we turned a 2% net sales increase into a strong 13% increase in adjusted EBITDA year over year, delivering €156 million in full-year 2025, or an 8.2% adjusted EBITDA margin.
Marco Portmann: On a full-year pro forma basis, we turned a 2% net sales increase into a strong 13% increase in adjusted EBITDA year-over-year, delivering CHF 156 million in full year 2025 or an 8.2% adjusted EBITDA margin. In our Q4, specifically, we converted a 6% net sales increase into an impressive 31% growth in EBITDA versus prior year Q4, delivering CHF 48.1 million of adjusted EBITDA in that Q4 2025 equal to a 9.1% margin. North America's EBITDA margin was flat on the back of that 2% sales decrease, while Europe and the rest of the world delivered a significant EBITDA growth with over 600 basis points improvement. Finally, having a look at our balance sheet on slide 21.
Marco Portmann: On a full-year pro forma basis, we turned a 2% net sales increase into a strong 13% increase in adjusted EBITDA year-over-year, delivering CHF 156 million in full year 2025 or an 8.2% adjusted EBITDA margin. In our Q4, specifically, we converted a 6% net sales increase into an impressive 31% growth in EBITDA versus prior year Q4, delivering CHF 48.1 million of adjusted EBITDA in that Q4 2025 equal to a 9.1% margin. North America's EBITDA margin was flat on the back of that 2% sales decrease, while Europe and the rest of the world delivered a significant EBITDA growth with over 600 basis points improvement. Finally, having a look at our balance sheet on slide 21.
Speaker #2: In our fourth quarter specifically, we converted a 6% net sales increase into an impressive 31% growth in EBITDA versus prior year fourth quarter, delivering 48.1 million of adjusted EBITDA, in that fourth quarter 2025, equal to a 9.1% margin.
Speaker #2: North America's EBITDA margin was flat on the back of that 2% net sales decrease, while Europe and the rest of the world delivered significant EBITDA growth with over 600 basis points of improvement.
Speaker #2: Finally, having a look at our balance sheet on slide 21, net working capital decreased by $29 million, or 6%, since September to $423 million as of December 2025.
Marco Portmann: Net working capital decreased by CHF 29 million or 6% since September to CHF 423 million as of December 2025. This decrease was driven by a CHF 38 million lower inventory, reflecting both improved efficiency and the seasonal decrease at year-end. On the back of a strong cash flow in Q4, our net debt decreased to CHF 437 million as of 31 December 2025, a decrease of CHF 32 million compared to September. With this, we have also delivered a first significant step to reduce our leverage, improving almost half the turn to 2.8 times as of year-end 2025 with our communicated target to improve to below 2.0 times by year-end 2026. That concludes my comments, and I hand it back to Roland for closing remarks.
Marco Portmann: Net working capital decreased by CHF 29 million or 6% since September to CHF 423 million as of December 2025. This decrease was driven by a CHF 38 million lower inventory, reflecting both improved efficiency and the seasonal decrease at year-end. On the back of a strong cash flow in Q4, our net debt decreased to CHF 437 million as of 31 December 2025, a decrease of CHF 32 million compared to September. With this, we have also delivered a first significant step to reduce our leverage, improving almost half the turn to 2.8 times as of year-end 2025 with our communicated target to improve to below 2.0 times by year-end 2026. That concludes my comments, and I hand it back to Roland for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: This decrease was driven by a 38 million lower inventory reflecting both improved efficiency and the seasonal decrease at year-end. On the back of a strong cash flow in the fourth quarter, our net debt decreased to 437 million as of December 31st, 2025, a decrease of 32 million compared to September.
Speaker #2: With this, we have also delivered a first significant step to reduce our leverage improving almost half a turn to 2.8 times as of year-end 2025 with our communicated targets to improve to below 2.0 times by year-end 2026.
Speaker #2: That includes my comments, and I hand it back to Barend for closing remarks.
Barend Fruithof: Thanks, Marco. Let me start my concluding remarks with a summary of the key achievements in 2025 shown on page 23. We're outperforming on synergies, expecting to deliver over CHF 40 million versus our initial CHF 25 to 30 million target. Our intake increased by 22% versus 2024, and adjusted EBITDA improved by 13%, reflecting strong operational execution. At the same time, we launched new products and opened new locations, further strengthening our foundation and positioning the company for sustainable growth.
Barend Fruithof: Thanks, Marco. Let me start my concluding remarks with a summary of the key achievements in 2025 shown on page 23. We're outperforming on synergies, expecting to deliver over CHF 40 million versus our initial CHF 25 to 30 million target. Our intake increased by 22% versus 2024, and adjusted EBITDA improved by 13%, reflecting strong operational execution. At the same time, we launched new products and opened new locations, further strengthening our foundation and positioning the company for sustainable growth.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Marco. Let me start my concluding remarks with a summary of the key achievements in 2025 shown on page 23. We're outperforming on synergies, expecting to deliver over €40 million versus our initial €25 to €30 million target.
Speaker #3: Our intake increased by 22% versus 2024, and adjusted EBITDA improved by 13%, reflecting strong operational execution. At the same time, we launched new products and opened new locations, further strengthening our foundation and positioning the company for sustainable growth.
Barend Fruithof: Continuing on page 24. Looking at 2026, we expect a pronounced quarterly seasonality, mainly driven by market conditions and geopolitical uncertainty. Q1 will start slow as our strong walk-in van orders will convert into revenue beyond the quarter, while the commercial market remains very soft despite some signs of recovery. In Q2, we expect order conversion to accelerate, supported by our ramp up of production and upfitting capacity. By Q3, we expect improving market conditions in the commercial and fleet markets and the realization of procurement synergies. Finally, in Q4, we expect to benefit from the usual seasonal strength, especially in Europe and the rest of the world. Moving on to page 24 for the outlook. Let me conclude with our 2026 guidance and priorities.
Barend Fruithof: Continuing on page 24. Looking at 2026, we expect a pronounced quarterly seasonality, mainly driven by market conditions and geopolitical uncertainty. Q1 will start slow as our strong walk-in van orders will convert into revenue beyond the quarter, while the commercial market remains very soft despite some signs of recovery. In Q2, we expect order conversion to accelerate, supported by our ramp up of production and upfitting capacity. By Q3, we expect improving market conditions in the commercial and fleet markets and the realization of procurement synergies. Finally, in Q4, we expect to benefit from the usual seasonal strength, especially in Europe and the rest of the world. Moving on to page 24 for the outlook. Let me conclude with our 2026 guidance and priorities.
Speaker #3: Continuing on page 24, looking at 2026, we expect a pronounced quarterly seasonality mainly driven by market conditions and geopolitical uncertainty. Q1 will start slow as our strong walking van orders will convert into revenue beyond the quarter, while the commercial market remains very soft despite some signs of recovery.
Speaker #3: In Q2, we expect order conversion to accelerate, supported by our ramp-up of production and upheating capacity. By Q3, we expect improving market conditions in the commercial and fleet markets and the realization of procurement synergies.
Speaker #3: And finally, in Q4, we expect to benefit from the usual seasonal strengths, especially in Europe and the rest of the world. Moving on to page 24, for the outlook, let me conclude with our 2026 guidance and priorities.
Barend Fruithof: We expect net sales between CHF 1.95 and 2.15 billion, and Adjusted EBITDA between CHF 175 and 195 million, and a leverage at year-end 2026 at or below 2. To deliver this, we expect to maintain strong order momentum and accelerate backlog conversion into net sales through better production efficiency. We expect to drive profitability through efficiency gains at legacy Shyft, optimized footprint utilization, and delivering our synergies. At the same time, we will maintain our strong focus on leverage and balance sheet. In short, our 2026 focus is on disciplined execution to sustain and build on the strong momentum achieved in 2025. That concludes our presentation. I now turn it over to our operator to open up the line for questions. Operator.
Barend Fruithof: We expect net sales between CHF 1.95 and 2.15 billion, and Adjusted EBITDA between CHF 175 and 195 million, and a leverage at year-end 2026 at or below 2. To deliver this, we expect to maintain strong order momentum and accelerate backlog conversion into net sales through better production efficiency. We expect to drive profitability through efficiency gains at legacy Shyft, optimized footprint utilization, and delivering our synergies. At the same time, we will maintain our strong focus on leverage and balance sheet. In short, our 2026 focus is on disciplined execution to sustain and build on the strong momentum achieved in 2025. That concludes our presentation. I now turn it over to our operator to open up the line for questions. Operator.
Speaker #3: We expect net sales between 1.95 and 2.15 billion, and adjusted EBITDA between 175 and 195 million. And the leverage at year-end 2026 at or below 2.
Speaker #3: To deliver this, we expect to maintain strong order momentum and accelerate backlog conversion into net sales through better production efficiency. We expect to drive profitability through efficiency gains at legacy shift, optimized footprint utilization, and delivering our synergies.
Speaker #3: And at the same time, we will maintain our strong focus on leverage and the balance sheet. In short, our 2026 focus is on disciplined execution to sustain and build on the strong momentum achieved in 2025.
Speaker #3: That concludes our presentation. I now turn it over to our operator to open up the line for questions. Operator.
Operator: Thank you. To ask a question, you will need to press star one and one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up only. To withdraw your question, please press star one and one again. We will now go to our first question. The first question comes from the line of Greg Lewis from BTIG. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #4: And the first question comes from the line of Greg Lewis from BTIG. Please go ahead.
Greg Lewis: Yes, thank you and good morning, or good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. You know, I was hoping you could talk a little bit more. I mean, clearly it looks like we've got some order momentum in the walk-in van market. Kind of as you see that playing out, like what's kind of some of the things that customers are talking about in driving that? You know, one of the things that we had heard last week was around just, hey, the fleet is just time for some renewal. Any kind of sense for how much of this is renewal, how much of this is demand, how much...
Greg Lewis: Yes, thank you and good morning, or good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. You know, I was hoping you could talk a little bit more. I mean, clearly it looks like we've got some order momentum in the walk-in van market. Kind of as you see that playing out, like what's kind of some of the things that customers are talking about in driving that? You know, one of the things that we had heard last week was around just, hey, the fleet is just time for some renewal. Any kind of sense for how much of this is renewal, how much of this is demand, how much...
Speaker #5: Yes, thank you, and good morning and good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. I was hoping you could talk a little bit more—I mean, clearly, it looks like we've got finished and started with some order momentum in the walking van market.
Speaker #5: Kind of as you see that playing out, what's kind of some of the things that customers are talking about and driving that? One of the things that we had heard last week was around just, hey, the fleet is just it's just time for some renewal.
Speaker #5: Any kind of sense for how much of this is renewal, how much of this is demand, how much—how can you kind of frame that, just given your confidence in the potential increases in walking?
Greg Lewis: Like, how can you kind of frame that, you know, just giving your confidence in, you know, the potential increases in walk-in?
Greg Lewis: Like, how can you kind of frame that, you know, just giving your confidence in, you know, the potential increases in walk-in?
Steffen Schewerda: Right, Greg, good morning. This is Steffen. I'll take that question. What we are seeing and believing is that it is both. We are entering a phase of renewal at this point in time, and one market participant is buying more than the other one. I mean, we know who the two big players are. We believe it is a combination of renewal and additional demand, and we see this going forward, not just a blip here over one or two quarters. When we talk to the customers, there's a structural and sustainable demand here.
Steffen Schewerda: Right, Greg, good morning. This is Steffen. I'll take that question. What we are seeing and believing is that it is both. We are entering a phase of renewal at this point in time, and one market participant is buying more than the other one. I mean, we know who the two big players are. We believe it is a combination of renewal and additional demand, and we see this going forward, not just a blip here over one or two quarters. When we talk to the customers, there's a structural and sustainable demand here.
Speaker #3: Right. Greg, good morning. This is Stephan. I'll take that question. So what we are seeing and believing is that it is both we are entering a phase of renewal at this point in time, and one market participant is buying more than the other one.
Speaker #3: I mean, we know who the big two big players are. But we believe it is a combination of renewal and additional demand and we see this going forward not just a blob here over one or two quarters.
Speaker #3: When we talk to the customers, that is structural and sustainable demand here.
Greg Lewis: Okay. I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the backlog. You know, you called out that the backlog points to, you know, is spread out over 15 months. Is that something where the backlog is? Is the duration of the backlog increasing, decreasing versus maybe where it was a year ago? Is part of that a mix of what is being ordered?
Greg Lewis: Okay. I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the backlog. You know, you called out that the backlog points to, you know, is spread out over 15 months. Is that something where the backlog is? Is the duration of the backlog increasing, decreasing versus maybe where it was a year ago? Is part of that a mix of what is being ordered?
Speaker #5: Okay. And then I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the backlog. You mentioned—you called out that the backlog points to about 15 and is spread out over 15 months.
Speaker #5: Is that something where the backlog is the duration of the backlog increasing, decreasing versus maybe where it was a year ago? Is part of that a mix of what is being ordered?
Steffen Schewerda: Greg, thank you very much for this question. I mean, we were able to increase our backlog on a pro forma basis if you compare it with 2024. You know, there is a bit of a mixed picture, you know, a mixed picture. We have a very strong backlog in our municipal business, as well as in our airport business, for example. We were also able to increase our backlog in Europe versus previous year, which is a very good development given the market circumstances. At the same time, we were also able to massively increase our backlog in the walk-in van business. We're having some challenges in the commercial market, as well as in the truck body market. There we need to do some more work.
Steffen Schewerda: Greg, thank you very much for this question. I mean, we were able to increase our backlog on a pro forma basis if you compare it with 2024. You know, there is a bit of a mixed picture, you know, a mixed picture. We have a very strong backlog in our municipal business, as well as in our airport business, for example. We were also able to increase our backlog in Europe versus previous year, which is a very good development given the market circumstances. At the same time, we were also able to massively increase our backlog in the walk-in van business. We're having some challenges in the commercial market, as well as in the truck body market. There we need to do some more work.
Speaker #3: So Greg, thank you very much for this question. So I mean, we were able to increase our backlog on a pro forma basis if you compare it with 2024.
Speaker #3: And there is a bit of a mixed picture. A mixed picture. So we have a very strong backlog in our municipal business, as well as in our airport business, for example.
Speaker #3: We were also able to increase our backlog in Europe versus the previous year, which is a very good development given the market circumstances, and at the same time, we were also able to massively increase our backlog in the walking van business.
Speaker #3: We have some challenges in the commercial market, as well as in the truck body market. So, we need to do some more work, and we expect that the market will improve. We already see first signs in that area.
Steffen Schewerda: you know, we expect that the market will improve, and we see already first signs in that area.
Steffen Schewerda: you know, we expect that the market will improve, and we see already first signs in that area.
Greg Lewis: Okay, super helpful. Thank you very much.
Greg Lewis: Okay, super helpful. Thank you very much.
Speaker #5: Okay, super helpful. Thank you very much.
Operator: Thank you. We will now take the next question. The question comes from the line of Mike Shlisky from D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. We will now take the next question. The question comes from the line of Mike Shlisky from D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Thank you. We will now take the next question. And the question comes from the line of Mike Schlitzky from A. Davidson. Please go ahead.
Mike Shlisky: Yes, hello. Thanks for taking my questions. What about some of your truck body comments that you made? You mentioned that it's been slow, but there was so much excitement about the new truck bodies that you're introducing at the NTEA show last week. Do you think that your truck body business will outperform the broader market in 2026 just on that new product? Just tell us about how it may have been received while at the show. What were customers telling you about the new product there?
Mike Shlisky: Yes, hello. Thanks for taking my questions. What about some of your truck body comments that you made? You mentioned that it's been slow, but there was so much excitement about the new truck bodies that you're introducing at the NTEA show last week. Do you think that your truck body business will outperform the broader market in 2026 just on that new product? Just tell us about how it may have been received while at the show. What were customers telling you about the new product there?
Speaker #6: Yes. Hello. Thanks for taking my questions. Well, for some of your truck body comments that you made, you mentioned that it's been slow. But there was some excitement about the new truck bodies that you're introducing at the NTA show last week.
Speaker #6: Do you think that your truck body business will outperform the broader market in 2026 just on that new product? And just tell us about how it may have been received while at the show.
Speaker #6: Were customers telling you about the new product there?
Steffen Schewerda: Mike, good morning. This is Steffen. I'll take that one. What we introduced on the show was a new service body on the commercial side. Basically, that is part of our committed integration here, more vertical integration. We talked about this on numerous occasions here. The service body on the commercial side has very, very good feedback. On the truck body side, the new product we showed was. You could see this on the Isuzu stand. This is a cooperation together with Isuzu. It's called the Advantic. We are the exclusive partner for Isuzu getting this into the market.
Steffen Schewerda: Mike, good morning. This is Steffen. I'll take that one. What we introduced on the show was a new service body on the commercial side. Basically, that is part of our committed integration here, more vertical integration. We talked about this on numerous occasions here. The service body on the commercial side has very, very good feedback. On the truck body side, the new product we showed was. You could see this on the Isuzu stand. This is a cooperation together with Isuzu. It's called the Advantic. We are the exclusive partner for Isuzu getting this into the market.
Speaker #3: So, Mike, good morning. This is Stephan. I'll take that one. So, what we introduced on the show was a new service body on the commercial side.
Speaker #3: Basically, that is part of our committed integration here—more vertical integration. We have talked about this on numerous occasions here. So, the service body on the commercial side has very, very good feedback.
Speaker #3: On the truck body side, the new product we showed was—you could see this on the Isuzu stand. This is a cooperation together with Isuzu.
Speaker #3: It's called the Advantiq. We are the exclusive partner for Isuzu. Getting this into the market to answer your question, I do not really believe that we will outperform the market here.
Steffen Schewerda: To answer your question, I do not really believe that we will outperform the market here in 2026, but I truly believe that we will put a strong foundation here into place over the next quarters, then to accelerate in 2027.
Steffen Schewerda: To answer your question, I do not really believe that we will outperform the market here in 2026, but I truly believe that we will put a strong foundation here into place over the next quarters, then to accelerate in 2027.
Speaker #3: In 2026, but I truly believe that we will put a strong foundation here into place over the next quarters then to accelerate in 2027.
Mike Shlisky: Great. Thanks for that comment. Secondly, a large e-commerce company has announced in the last couple of days that they plan to scale back or stop using the USPS for a lot of their deliveries.
Mike Shlisky: Great. Thanks for that comment. Secondly, a large e-commerce company has announced in the last couple of days that they plan to scale back or stop using the USPS for a lot of their deliveries.
Speaker #6: Great, great. Thanks for that comment. Secondly, a large e-commerce company has announced in the last couple of days that they plan to scale back or stop using the USPS for a lot of their deliveries.
Marco Portmann: Mm-hmm.
Marco Portmann: Mm-hmm.
Mike Shlisky: They're one of USPS's biggest customers. Presumably, they're gonna have to take some of that delivery volume in-house as well as farming out to the other large, delivery providers. If they're using the other providers, if they're using their own vehicles, and I know that they have some of their own kinda custom-made vehicles, but they are a mixed fleet. If that changes, away from the USPS, is that a positive, for Aebi Schmidt going forward as far as mix of, you know, how much business you can capture now? Or was USPS a pretty big customer and there won't be much of a change here?
Mike Shlisky: They're one of USPS's biggest customers. Presumably, they're gonna have to take some of that delivery volume in-house as well as farming out to the other large, delivery providers. If they're using the other providers, if they're using their own vehicles, and I know that they have some of their own kinda custom-made vehicles, but they are a mixed fleet. If that changes, away from the USPS, is that a positive, for Aebi Schmidt going forward as far as mix of, you know, how much business you can capture now? Or was USPS a pretty big customer and there won't be much of a change here?
Speaker #6: They're one of the USPS's biggest customers. Presumably, they're going to have to take some of that delivery volume in-house as well as farm it out to the other large delivery providers.
Speaker #6: If they're using the other providers, if they're using their own vehicles, and I know that they have some of their own kind of custom-made vehicles, but they are a mixed fleet.
Speaker #6: If that changes, away from the USPS, is that a positive for Aebi Schmidt going forward as far as the mix of how much business you can capture now?
Speaker #6: Or was the USPS a pretty big customer, and there won't be much of a change here?
Steffen Schewerda: Mike, I believe that this is an advantage for Aebi Schmidt. I mean, in this context, there was also the notion of, hey, we do it within one hour delivery or three-hour deliveries where customers pay a little bit more. We're talking about the same article here, and the same announcement. I believe it will drive additional demand. The question is what kind of vehicle, what kind of concept will this be? I believe in our product portfolio, we have something to participate in that market, and we are in active discussions.
Steffen Schewerda: Mike, I believe that this is an advantage for Aebi Schmidt. I mean, in this context, there was also the notion of, hey, we do it within one hour delivery or three-hour deliveries where customers pay a little bit more. We're talking about the same article here, and the same announcement. I believe it will drive additional demand. The question is what kind of vehicle, what kind of concept will this be? I believe in our product portfolio, we have something to participate in that market, and we are in active discussions.
Speaker #3: Mike, I believe that this is an advantage for Aebi Schmidt. I mean, in this context, there was also the notion of, hey, we do it within one-hour delivery or three-hour deliveries, where customers pay a little bit more.
Speaker #3: We're talking about the same article here, and the same announcement. So, I believe it will drive additional demand. The question is, what kind of vehicle, what kind of concept will this be?
Speaker #3: But I believe in our product portfolio, we have something to participate in that market. And we are in active discussions.
Mike Shlisky: Great. Thank you so much.
Mike Shlisky: Great. Thank you so much.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question today comes from the line of Matt Koranda from Roth Capital. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question today comes from the line of Matt Koranda from Roth Capital. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Great. Thank you so much.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Your next question today comes from the line of Matt Caranda from Roth Capital. Please go ahead.
Matt Koranda: Hey, guys. Good morning.
Matt Koranda: Hey, guys. Good morning.
Marco Portmann: Hey, good morning.
Marco Portmann: Hey, good morning.
Matt Koranda: I guess I wanted to hear on the midpoint of the Adjusted EBITDA guide for 2026. Looks like about nearly CHF 30 million in improvement, but I guess you guys have said synergies in total are north of CHF 40 million from the combination. Obviously, that gets realized over a couple of years. Just wanted to hear a little bit about how much gets realized in 2026 and what's built into the full year guidance.
Matt Koranda: I guess I wanted to hear on the midpoint of the Adjusted EBITDA guide for 2026. Looks like about nearly CHF 30 million in improvement, but I guess you guys have said synergies in total are north of CHF 40 million from the combination. Obviously, that gets realized over a couple of years. Just wanted to hear a little bit about how much gets realized in 2026 and what's built into the full year guidance.
Speaker #5: Hey, guys. Good morning. I guess I wanted to hear on the midpoint of the adjusted EBITDA guide for '26. Looks like about nearly $30 million in improvement.
Speaker #5: But I guess you guys have said synergies in total are north of 40 million from the combination. Obviously, that gets realized over a couple of years.
Speaker #5: So just wanted to hear a little bit about how much gets realized in '26 and what's built into the full year guidance.
Marco Portmann: Yeah. Hey, good morning, Matt. This is Marco speaking. Yes, midpoint CHF 185 million of our adjusted EBITDA guidance. I mean to reiterate in 2025, right? We always said, you know, we're gonna deliver at least CHF 40 million total now. Out of that, we have realized in 2025 somewhere in the mid-teens, that's predominantly cost synergies. We expect the same amount to realize also in 2026 on top of that. Keeping in mind that, you know, specifically the procurement synergies, they will kick in in Q3 2026. Again, that's relating also to what we just talked about with the service body.
Marco Portmann: Yeah. Hey, good morning, Matt. This is Marco speaking. Yes, midpoint CHF 185 million of our adjusted EBITDA guidance. I mean to reiterate in 2025, right? We always said, you know, we're gonna deliver at least CHF 40 million total now. Out of that, we have realized in 2025 somewhere in the mid-teens, that's predominantly cost synergies. We expect the same amount to realize also in 2026 on top of that. Keeping in mind that, you know, specifically the procurement synergies, they will kick in in Q3 2026. Again, that's relating also to what we just talked about with the service body.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Hey, good morning, Matt. This is Marcus speaking. So yes, midpoint 185 of our adjusted EBITDA guidance. And I mean, to reiterate, in 2025, right?
Speaker #3: So we always said we're going to deliver at least 40 million total now. And out of that, we have realized in '25 somewhere in the mid-teens.
Speaker #3: That's predominantly cost synergies. And we expect the same amount to realize also in 2026 on top of that. Keeping in mind that specifically the procurement synergies, they will kick in in the third quarter of 2026.
Speaker #3: Again, that's relating also to what we just talked about with the service body. And we have also revenue synergies, which are predominantly kicking in in the second half of 2026 as well.
Marco Portmann: We have also revenue synergies, which are predominantly kicking in in the second half of 2026 as well, before we will then see the full realization by summer 2027, as we have initially announced pre-merger. We're still fully on track to that. Also keep in mind, it's not just the synergies. If you look at the difference between 2025, 2026, there's also one-off expenses that we have to account for. 2025, we faced some additional stuff that isn't in part of the adjusted, you know, some ramp-up expenses that are operational, some SOX compliance topics. Couple of these things, and also in Q1 2026, we'll still have some ramp-up expenses, specifically in the walk-in vans.
Marco Portmann: We have also revenue synergies, which are predominantly kicking in in the second half of 2026 as well, before we will then see the full realization by summer 2027, as we have initially announced pre-merger. We're still fully on track to that. Also keep in mind, it's not just the synergies. If you look at the difference between 2025, 2026, there's also one-off expenses that we have to account for. 2025, we faced some additional stuff that isn't in part of the adjusted, you know, some ramp-up expenses that are operational, some SOX compliance topics. Couple of these things, and also in Q1 2026, we'll still have some ramp-up expenses, specifically in the walk-in vans.
Speaker #3: Before we will then see the full realization by summer 2027, as we have initially announced pre-merger. So we're still fully on track to that.
Speaker #3: But also keep in mind, it's not just a synergy. If you look at the differential between 2025 and '26, there's also one-off expenses that we have to account for.
Speaker #3: In 2025, we faced some additional items that aren't part of the adjusted results. Some ramp-up expenses that are operational, and some stock compliance topics—a couple of these things.
Speaker #3: And also in Q1 now '26, we'll still have some ramp-up expenses specifically in the walking van business.
Matt Koranda: Okay. Got it. I wanted to hear a little bit more about the seasonality commentary that you gave in the prepared remarks. It sounds like you said Q1, usually your lower quarter in terms of seasonality, but might be a little bit more pronounced this year. Could you unpack some of the factors that are causing the more pronounced seasonality? Is that more pronounced in one of the two segments in North America or Europe, or is it both? Just wanted to hear a little bit more about how to think about it.
Matt Koranda: Okay. Got it. I wanted to hear a little bit more about the seasonality commentary that you gave in the prepared remarks. It sounds like you said Q1, usually your lower quarter in terms of seasonality, but might be a little bit more pronounced this year. Could you unpack some of the factors that are causing the more pronounced seasonality? Is that more pronounced in one of the two segments in North America or Europe, or is it both? Just wanted to hear a little bit more about how to think about it.
Speaker #5: Okay. Got it. And I wanted to hear a little bit more about the seasonality commentary that you gave in the prepared remarks. It sounds like you said first quarter usually your lower quarter in terms of seasonality, but might be a little bit more pronounced this year.
Speaker #5: Could you unpack some of the factors that are causing the more pronounced seasonality? And is that more pronounced in one of the two segments in North America or Europe, or is it both?
Speaker #5: Just wanted to hear a little bit more about how to think about it.
Marco Portmann: Yeah, I mean, as you commented, right? Generally speaking, we do have quite a bit of seasonality, a bit more than maybe typically would be expected, coming especially, a little bit from, you know, the ordering cycles we see in Europe, but also generally the snow business or snow-related business that we have. As we said, in 2026, this is gonna be quite a bit more pronounced. We will see, of course, a slower start in Q1, because these walk-in van orders, while we do have the backlog now and we still see the good momentum, it will materialize only beginning in Q2, really. We still have some one-off expenses associated with that ramp-up in Q1.
Marco Portmann: Yeah, I mean, as you commented, right? Generally speaking, we do have quite a bit of seasonality, a bit more than maybe typically would be expected, coming especially, a little bit from, you know, the ordering cycles we see in Europe, but also generally the snow business or snow-related business that we have. As we said, in 2026, this is gonna be quite a bit more pronounced. We will see, of course, a slower start in Q1, because these walk-in van orders, while we do have the backlog now and we still see the good momentum, it will materialize only beginning in Q2, really. We still have some one-off expenses associated with that ramp-up in Q1.
Speaker #3: Yeah. I mean, as it commented, right, generally speaking, we do have quite a bit of seasonality. A bit more than maybe typically would be expected.
Speaker #3: Coming especially a little bit from the ordering cycles we see in Europe, but also generally the snow business or snow-related business that we have.
Speaker #3: And as we said, in 2026, this is going to be quite a bit more pronounced. So, we will see, of course, a slower start in Q1 because these walking van orders, while we do have the backlog now, and while we still see the good momentum, it will materialize only beginning in Q2, really.
Speaker #3: And we still have some one-off expenses associated with that ramp-up in the first quarter. So we don't have the revenue yet, but also some costs already flowing in.
Marco Portmann: We don't have the revenue yet, but also some costs already flowing in. Now, also from a segment view, will hit us, of course, in the US. You will see that if you compare Q1 US or North America, as the segment officially is called, versus last year. In Europe, you will see quite a good improvement, Q1 over Q1. But of course, keeping in mind that, you know, Europe has had a slow start in 2025. Yeah, you see that basically coming in, out of the order backlog, that wasn't there in Q4, that now leads to that lack of revenue basically in Q1 work events. Again, commercial truck body, we commented on that. It is a soft market.
Marco Portmann: We don't have the revenue yet, but also some costs already flowing in. Now, also from a segment view, will hit us, of course, in the US. You will see that if you compare Q1 US or North America, as the segment officially is called, versus last year. In Europe, you will see quite a good improvement, Q1 over Q1. But of course, keeping in mind that, you know, Europe has had a slow start in 2025. Yeah, you see that basically coming in, out of the order backlog, that wasn't there in Q4, that now leads to that lack of revenue basically in Q1 work events. Again, commercial truck body, we commented on that. It is a soft market.
Speaker #3: And now also from a segment view, we'll hit us, of course, in the US. So you will see that if you compare Q1 US or North America as the segment officially is called versus last year.
Speaker #3: In Europe, you will see quite a good improvement Q1 over Q1. But of course, keeping in mind that Europe has had a slow start in 2025.
Speaker #3: So yeah, you see that basically coming in out of the order backlog that wasn't there in Q4 that now leads to that lack of revenue, basically, in Q1 walking vans.
Speaker #3: And again, commercial truck body—we commented on that. It is a soft market. We still see that, and that will persist through Q1, or does persist through Q1.
Marco Portmann: We still see that, and that will persist through Q1 or does persist through Q1. We can say that as of today. Of course, you know, the geopolitical environment also didn't really help in the last couple of weeks. You feel that as well. Then you have basically Q2, Q3 is the ramp up as we explained, and Q4 really will be, I would say, similar to what you have seen now in the dynamics in 2025, but again, more pronounced that this is really the strong quarter where we bring the year together. We just wanted to be precise on that, you know, to right size expectations on our quarterly momentum of 2026.
Marco Portmann: We still see that, and that will persist through Q1 or does persist through Q1. We can say that as of today. Of course, you know, the geopolitical environment also didn't really help in the last couple of weeks. You feel that as well. Then you have basically Q2, Q3 is the ramp up as we explained, and Q4 really will be, I would say, similar to what you have seen now in the dynamics in 2025, but again, more pronounced that this is really the strong quarter where we bring the year together. We just wanted to be precise on that, you know, to right size expectations on our quarterly momentum of 2026.
Speaker #3: We can say that as of today. And of course, the geopolitical environment also didn't really help in the last couple of weeks. So you feel that as well.
Speaker #3: And then you have basically Q2, Q3 of the ramp-up, as we explained, and the fourth quarter really will be, I would say, similar to what you have seen now in the dynamics in 2025.
Speaker #3: But again, more pronounced. That this is really the strong quarter where we bring the year together. And we just wanted to be precise on that to right-size expectations.
Steffen Schewerda: Matt, just to add one point. You know, as you know, we have built a new upfit center in Chicago, that will help to, you know, to accelerate our backlog in the municipal area, you know, into more sales. We will see already an improvement in March, and that will then go up, already in Q2. That's also a good thing then to reduce our backlog and turn it into sales, in the municipal area.
Steffen Schewerda: Matt, just to add one point. You know, as you know, we have built a new upfit center in Chicago, that will help to, you know, to accelerate our backlog in the municipal area, you know, into more sales. We will see already an improvement in March, and that will then go up, already in Q2. That's also a good thing then to reduce our backlog and turn it into sales, in the municipal area.
Speaker #3: On our quarterly momentum of 2026.
Speaker #5: And Matt, just to add one point, as you know, we have built new outfit center in Chicago. That will help to accelerate our backlog in the municipal area into more sales.
Speaker #5: And we will see already an improvement in March. And that will then go up already in the second quarter. And that's also a good thing then to reduce our backlog and turn it into sales in the municipal area.
Operator: Okay. Very helpful, guys. Thanks. Thank you. This concludes the Q&A for today, and I will now hand back to Simone Grancini for closing remarks.
Operator: Okay. Very helpful, guys. Thanks. Thank you. This concludes the Q&A for today, and I will now hand back to Simone Grancini for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Okay. Very helpful, guys. Thanks.
Speaker #4: Thank you. This concludes the Q&A for today. And I will now hand back to Simone, Granchini, for closing remarks.
Simone Grancini: Thank you, Sharon. I thank everyone for joining today's call and your interest in the Aebi Schmidt Group. As always, please reach out to investor.relations@aebi-schmidt.com if you have any follow-up questions. With that, Sharon, please disconnect the call.
Simone Grancini: Thank you, Sharon. I thank everyone for joining today's call and your interest in the Aebi Schmidt Group. As always, please reach out to investor.relations@aebi-schmidt.com if you have any follow-up questions. With that, Sharon, please disconnect the call.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Sharon. I thank everyone for joining today's call and your interest in the Aebi Schmidt Group. As always, please reach out to investor.relations@ebischmidt.com if you have any follow-up questions.
Speaker #3: And with that, Sharon, please disconnect the call.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.