Q4 2025 Latham Group Inc Earnings Call

March 3, 2026

Speaker #2: After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad.

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Speaker #2: Please go ahead. Thank you. This afternoon, we issued our fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings press release, which is available on the Investor Relations portion of our website, where you can also find the slide presentation that accompanies our prepared remarks.

Casey Coterie: Thank you. This afternoon, we issued our Q4 and full year 2025 earnings press release, which is available on the investor relations portion of our website, where you can also find the slide presentation that accompanies our prepared remarks. On today's call are Latham's President and CEO, Sean Gadd, and CFO, Oliver Gloe. Following their remarks, we will open the call to questions. During this call, the company may make certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements which reflect the company's views with respect to future events and financial performance as of today or the date specified. Actual events and results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements due to risks and other factors that are set forth in the company's annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent reports filed or furnished with the SEC, as well as today's earnings release.

Casey Kotary: Thank you. This afternoon, we issued our Q4 and full year 2025 earnings press release, which is available on the investor relations portion of our website, where you can also find the slide presentation that accompanies our prepared remarks. On today's call are Latham's President and CEO, Sean Gadd, and CFO, Oliver Gloe. Following their remarks, we will open the call to questions. During this call, the company may make certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements which reflect the company's views with respect to future events and financial performance as of today or the date specified. Actual events and results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements due to risks and other factors that are set forth in the company's annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent reports filed or furnished with the SEC, as well as today's earnings release.

Speaker #2: On today's call, our Latham's president and CEO, Shaun Gadd, and CFO, Oliver Gloe. Following their remarks, we will open the call to questions. During this call, the company may make certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements which reflect the company's views with respect to future events and financial performance as of today or the date specified.

Speaker #2: Actual events and results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements due to risks and other factors that are set forth in the company's annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent reports filed or furnished with the SEC, as well as today's earnings release.

Speaker #2: The company expressly disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by applicable law. In addition, during today's call, the company will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, reconciliations of the directly comparable GAAP measures to these non-GAAP measures, can be found in the slide presentation that accompanies our prepared remarks, which can be found on our Investor Relations website.

Casey Coterie: The company expressly disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by applicable law. In addition, during today's call, the company will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of the directly comparable GAAP measures to these non-GAAP measures can be found in the slide presentation that accompanies our prepared remarks, which can be found on our investor relations website. I'll now turn the call over to Sean Gadd.

Casey Kotary: The company expressly disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by applicable law. In addition, during today's call, the company will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of the directly comparable GAAP measures to these non-GAAP measures can be found in the slide presentation that accompanies our prepared remarks, which can be found on our investor relations website. I'll now turn the call over to Sean Gadd.

Speaker #2: I'll now turn the call over to Shaun Gadd.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Casey, and thank you all for joining the call to discuss Latham's fourth quarter and full year 2025 results. My first conference call as CEO of Latham I have the good fortune to be reporting on the strong results of the company achieved in both the fourth quarter and the full year of 2025.

Sean Gadd: Thank you, Casey. Thank you all for joining the call to discuss Latham's Q4 and full year 2025 results. My first conference call as CEO of Latham, I have the good fortune to be reporting on the strong results that the company achieved in both the Q4 and the full year 2025. This performance demonstrates excellent execution by the Latham team. As you have seen from this afternoon's earnings release, Q4 revenues were up 15%, showing solid growth across all of our product lines. We were especially pleased by the Q4 pickup in our in-ground pool sales, which brought our full-year in-ground pool sales to 1% above 2024 levels. Impressive performance for a year with an industry in which we estimate the US in-ground pool start declined low to mid-single digits.

Speaker #3: This performance demonstrates excellent execution by the Latham team. As you have seen from this afternoon's earnings release, fourth quarter revenues were up 15%, showing solid growth across all of our product lines.

Speaker #3: We were especially pleased by the fourth quarter pickup in our in-ground pool sales, which brought our full-year in-ground pool sales to 1% above 2024 levels.

Speaker #3: Impressive performance for a year within an industry in which we estimate the US in-ground pool start declined low to mid-single digits. With the benefit of good weather and extended setting season, dealers were able to work through their backlog.

Sean Gadd: With the benefit of good weather and extended selling season, dealers were able to work through their backlog. The strong result reflects an increased demand for Latham fiberglass pools. Fiberglass represented 76.5% of our in-ground pool sales in 2025, with year-over-year growth of Latham's fiberglass pool sales of approximately 2.5%. As a market leader, Latham has been the key driver behind the increased adoption of fiberglass pools, which we estimate gained another percentage point of market share in 2025 to account for approximately 24% of last year's US pool starts. The steady growth in fiberglass market penetration in the US reflects the success of Latham's branding and marketing programs, emphasizing the benefits of a fiberglass pool against any alternative solution.

Speaker #3: The strong result reflects an increased demand for Latham fiberglass pools. Fiberglass represented 76.5% of our in-ground pool sales in 2025, with year-on-year growth of Latham's fiberglass pool sales of approximately 2.5%.

Speaker #3: As the market leader, Latham has been the key driver behind increased adoption of fiberglass pools, which we estimate gained another percentage point of market share in 2025.

Speaker #3: To account for approximately 24% of last year's US pool starts, the steady growth in fiberglass market penetration in the US reflects the success of Latham's branding and marketing programs emphasizing the benefits of a fiberglass pool against any alternative solution.

Speaker #3: Competitive strength of fiberglass pools, namely their fast and easy installation, sleek designs matching current consumer preference, and lower maintenance requirements, all at an affordable price makes Latham fiberglass pools the best alternative in the marketplace.

Sean Gadd: Competitive strength of fiberglass pools, namely their fast and easy installation, sleek designs matching current consumer preference, and lower maintenance requirements, all at an affordable price, makes Latham fiberglass pools the best alternative in the marketplace. While the estimated 24% penetration of US pool starts for 2025 represents significant growth from 16% in 2019, this is considerably below the 70% fiberglass penetration in my home country of Australia and meaningfully below the approximate 40% to 50% penetration in key European markets, which really excites me as I think about the future and the size of the opportunity.

Speaker #3: And while the estimated 24% penetration of U.S. pool starts for 2025 represents significant growth from 16% in 2019, this is considerably below the 70% fiberglass penetration in my home country of Australia.

Speaker #3: And meaningfully below the approximate 40 to 50% penetration in key European markets. Which really excites me as I think about the future and the size of the opportunity.

Speaker #3: I consider the attributes of fiberglass from the vantage point of my many years of experience successfully selling against the standard in the building industry. I see substantial runway for accelerated conversions to fiberglass, particularly in the sand states, which I'll talk about in a moment.

Sean Gadd: When I consider the attributes of fiberglass from the vantage point of my many years of experience successfully selling against the standard in the boating industry, I see substantial runway for accelerated conversions to fiberglass, particularly in the Sand States, which I'll talk about in a moment. Another key accomplishment for 2025 has been the positive momentum in our covers and liner product lines, which delivered a meaningful contribution in both Q4 and full year sales results. The 22% growth in auto cover sales in 2025 was a function of very positive consumer response to the unparalleled safety and peace of mind that auto covers offer. This is further highlighted by our partnership with Olympic Gold medalist and pool safety advocate, Bode Miller, and his wife, Morgan, to promote pool safety and the safety advantages of our auto covers.

Speaker #3: Another key accomplishment for 2025 has been the positive momentum in our covers and line of product lines, which delivered a meaningful contribution in both fourth quarter and full-year sales results.

Speaker #3: The 22% growth in order cover sales in 2025 was a function of very positive consumer response to the unparalleled safety and peace of mind that order covers offer.

Speaker #3: This is further highlighted by our partnership with Olympic gold medalist and pool safety advocate, Brody Miller, and his wife, Morgan, who promote pool safety and the safety advantages of our order covers.

Speaker #3: As a reminder, Latham's order covers are compatible with all in-ground pool types, with the advantage of providing the homeowner with a significantly more attractive alternative to fencing while also delivering cost savings from reduced water evaporation and reduced energy for pool heating and reduced chemical consumption.

Sean Gadd: As a reminder, Latham's auto covers are compatible with all the in-ground pool types, with the advantage of providing the homeowner with a significantly more attractive alternative to fencing, while also delivering cost savings from reduced water evaporation, reduced energy for pool heating, and reduced chemical consumption. Essentially, auto covers pay for themselves within 4 to 5 years. Liner sales increased 4% in 2025, thanks to our industry-leading lead times and the successful rollout of our proprietary AI-powered measuring tool. Measure streamlines the liner and winter safety cover measurement and quoting process for installers, ensuring a high degree of accuracy that can be completed in as little as 30 minutes.

Speaker #3: Essentially, order covers pay for themselves within four to five years. Line of sales increased 4% in 2025 thanks to our industry-leading lead times and the successful rollout of our proprietary AI-powered measuring tool.

Speaker #3: Measure streamlines the liner and winter safety cover measurement and coding process for installers, ensuring a high degree of accuracy that can be completed in as little as 30 minutes.

Speaker #3: This tool is fully integrated with the Latham order entry and processing system, which allows our installers to get real-time quotes, submit orders, and track their status.

Sean Gadd: This tool is fully integrated with the Latham order entry and processing system, which allows us installers to get real-time quotes, to submit orders, and track their status while providing Latham with first look at all quoting opportunities and helps optimize schedules and operations. Approximately 20% of installers who purchased this tool during the year were new to Latham, enabling share gain in our liner and winter safety cover product. In 2025, the Latham team executed effectively on a strategic priority, expanding into the Sand States. In particular, the company gained considerable ground in Florida, our initial target market, achieving double-digit sales growth for the year.

Speaker #3: By providing Latham with first look at all quoting opportunities and helps optimize schedules and operations. Approximately 20% of the installers who purchase this tool during the year were new to Latham, enabling safety cover products in 2025.

Speaker #3: The Latham team executed it effectively on a strategic priority. Expanding into the sand states, in particular, the company gained considerable ground in Florida, our initial target market.

Speaker #3: Achieving double-digit sales growth for the year. This good growth was achieved by expanding our dealer network, establishing a presence for Latham in several master-planned communities, and nurturing our strategic partnerships with select custom homebuilders who will feature our fiberglass pools in their developments when they begin building.

Sean Gadd: This good growth was achieved by expanding our dealer network, establishing a presence for Latham in several master-planned communities, and nurturing our strategic partnerships with select custom home builders who will feature our fiberglass pools in their developments when they begin building. The percentage of Latham sales volumes derived from the Sand States remains steady at approximately 17%. This reflects our considerable growth in Florida and a pickup in Arizona, offset by the tough Texas markets, where pool permits declined at a double-digit rate. I recently spent two weeks in Florida engaging with the commercial team and some of our dealers while visiting our priority master-planned communities and touring our Zephyrhills manufacturing facility, which demonstrated to me that Latham has the best fiberglass pools in the industry.

Speaker #3: The percentage of Latham sales volumes derived from the sand states remains steady at approximately 17%. This reflects our considerable growth in Florida and a pickup in Arizona.

Speaker #3: Offset by the tough Texas market where pool permits declined at a double-digit rate. I recently spent two weeks in Florida engaging with the commercial team and some of our dealers while visiting our priority master plan communities and touring our Zephyr Hills manufacturing facility.

Speaker #3: Which demonstrated to me that Latham has the best fiberglass pools in the industry. I came away even more enthusiastic about the opportunity and upside in Florida, more than I had originally thought while I was doing my research and joining Latham.

Sean Gadd: I came away even more enthusiastic about the opportunity and upside in Florida, more than I had originally thought while I was doing my research in joining Latham. First, the opportunity for fiberglass pool penetration in Florida and other Sand States is large. Second, the advantage of fiberglass pools are resonating with qualified, established dealers. Several of whom indicated their desire to partner with us in our master-planned communities. They recognize the benefits of providing their customers with a high-quality product which boasts lasting durability, elegant appearances, and a smooth low-maintenance finish. Not only do they get to sell a great product that meets the needs of the homeowners, they're able to capture the benefit of quicker, easier installation.

Speaker #3: First, the opportunity for fiberglass pool penetration in Florida and other sand states is large. Second, the advantage of fiberglass pools are resonating with qualified, established dealers.

Speaker #3: Several of whom indicated their desire to partner with us in our master plan communities. They recognize the benefits of providing their customers with a high-quality product, which boasts lasting durability and elegant appearances, and a smooth, low-maintenance finish.

Speaker #3: Not only do they get to sell a great product that meets the needs of the homeowners, they're able to capture the benefit of quicker, easier installation.

Speaker #3: Shorter cycle times mean that dealers can improve their cash flow through the install process and triple or quadruple the number of pools they sell and install annually, resulting in more profit for them in the end.

Sean Gadd: Shorter cycle times mean that dealers can improve their cash flow through the install process, and triple or quadruple the number of pools they sell and install annually, resulting in more profit for them in the end. Thirdly, Latham clearly has increased its brand awareness amongst consumers and dealers in Florida, with several high-profile marketing campaigns paired with local activations. We still need to do more of this, as the number one gap I see is ensuring that homeowners gain awareness of the true benefits of fiberglass, and why it is the right solution for their backyard to enable their dreams of creating wonderful memories to come true. Together with the speed at which our pools can be installed, allows homeowners to enjoy their pools in days instead of the traditional months when compared to the standard, which is concrete.

Speaker #3: Thirdly, Latham clearly has increased its brand awareness amongst consumers and dealers in Florida. With several high-profile marketing campaigns paired with local activations, we still need to do more of this as the number one gap I see is ensuring the homeowners gain awareness of the true benefits of fiberglass and why it is the right solution for their backyard to enable their dreams of creating wonderful memories to come true.

Speaker #3: Together with the speed at which our pools can be installed, allows homeowners to enjoy their pools in days instead of the traditional months when compared to the standard, which is concrete.

Speaker #3: In 2026, we plan to increase our investment in branding and marketing in a very targeted way to capture greater consumer awareness with a network of trusted dealers who are able to fulfill the demand we generate.

Sean Gadd: In 2026, we plan to increase our investment in branding and marketing in a very targeted way to capture greater consumer awareness with a network of trusted dealers who are able to fulfill the demand we generate. I'm excited to bring a market development framework and approach to Latham that I believe will make us even more effective than we've been to date. As we continue to focus on accelerating organic growth, you can also expect Latham to continue to consider select acquisitions that provide us with revenue synergies and/or expanded geographic reach that will be accretive to our earnings. Just a few days ago, we completed an acquisition that meets all three criteria. Oliver will provide more details shortly. From my perspective, Freedom Pools represents an excellent acquisition in that it, 1, significantly expands our market position in Australia and New Zealand.

Speaker #3: I'm excited to bring a market development framework and approach to Latham that I believe will make us even more effective than we've been to date.

Speaker #3: As we continue to focus on accelerating organic growth, we can also expect Latham to continue to consider select acquisitions that provide us with revenue synergies and/or expanded geographic reach.

Speaker #3: They will be accretive to our earnings. Just a few days ago, we completed an acquisition that meets all three criteria. Oliver will provide more details shortly.

Speaker #3: From my perspective, Freedom Pools represents an excellent acquisition in that it, one, significantly expands our market position in Australia and New Zealand—two countries where fiberglass pools are highly preferred by consumers and builders.

Sean Gadd: Two countries where fiberglass pools are highly preferred by consumers and builders. Two, it gives us entry into new markets in Western Australia, which represent a large market with Perth being one of the fastest growing cities in Australia. Thirdly, it is immediately accretive to our earnings. We welcome the Freedom team to Latham. To sum up, our Q4 and full year 2025 performance demonstrates Latham's fundamental strengths and ability to drive considerable growth in sales and adjusted EBITDA in a down market. This proven capability differentiates us in the marketplace and provides the foundation for future growth and enhanced profitability. Now I'll turn over the call to our CFO, Oliver Gloe, who will provide further detail in our Q4 and full year financial performance, including the drivers of our continued margin expansion in 2025, and in support of our 2026 guidance. Oliver.

Speaker #3: Two, it gives us entry into new markets in Western Australia, which represents a large market, with Perth being one of the fastest-growing cities in Australia.

Speaker #3: And thirdly, it is immediately accretive to our earnings. We welcome the Freedom team to Latham. To sum up, our fourth quarter and full year 2025 performance demonstrates Latham's fundamental strengths and ability to drive considerable growth in sales and adjusted EBITDA in a down market.

Speaker #3: This proven capability differentiates us in the marketplace and provides the foundation for future growth and enhanced profitability. Now I'll turn over the call to our CFO, Oliver Gloe, who will provide further detail in our Q4 and full year financial performance, including the drivers of our continued margin expansion in 2025 and in support of our 2026 guidance.

Speaker #3: Oliver.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Sean. And good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to review our fourth quarter and full year results and to report that our full year 2025 sales exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range while our adjusted EBITDA performance was above our guidance range.

Oliver Gloe: Thank you, Sean. Good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to review our Q4 and full year results, and to report that our full year 2025 sales exceeded the midpoint of our guidance range, while our adjusted EBITDA performance was above our guidance range, demonstrating the benefits of volume leverage and production efficiencies. Please note that all comparisons we discuss today are on a year-over-year basis compared to the Q4 and full fiscal year 2024, unless otherwise noted. Net sales for the Q4 of 2025 were $100 million, up 15% compared to $87 million in the Q4 of 2024, reflecting strength in fiberglass pool sales, as well as increased demand for auto covers. Organic growth was 14% for the quarter.

Speaker #2: Demonstrating the benefits of volume leverage and production efficiencies. Please note that all comparisons we discussed today are on a year-over-year basis, compared to the fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2024, unless otherwise noted.

Speaker #2: Net sales for the fourth quarter of 2025 were $100 million, up 15% compared to $87 million in the fourth quarter of 2024, reflecting strengths in fiberglass pool sales as well as increased demand for outer covers.

Speaker #2: Organic growth was 14% for the quarter. For the second consecutive quarter, all three of our product lines—in-ground pools, pool covers, and pool liners—experienced year-over-year growth.

Oliver Gloe: For the second consecutive quarter, all three of our product lines, in-ground pools, pool covers, and pool liners, experienced year-over-year growth. By product line, in-ground pool sales were $50 million, up 15% from Q4 2024, showing strength in both fiberglass and packaged pools, and representing a quarterly shift in the sales cadence given an elongated season due to favorable weather conditions in Q4. Cover sales were $37 million in the quarter, up 19%, benefiting from increased adoption of auto covers and the two small cover acquisitions we made in February 2025. Liner sales were $13 million, up 2% compared to Q4 2024, remaining resilient relative to the overall pool market due to the replacement cycle of these products and our industry-leading lead times.

Speaker #2: By product line, in-ground pool sales were $50 million, up 15% from Q4 2024, showing strengths in both fiberglass and packaged pools, and representing a quarterly shift in the sales cadence given an elongated season due to favorable weather conditions in Q4.

Speaker #2: Cover sales were $37 million in the quarter, up 19%, benefiting from increased adoption of outer covers and the two small cover stock acquisitions we made in February of 2025.

Speaker #2: Liner sales were $13 million, up 2% compared to the fourth quarter of 2024, remaining resilient relative to the overall pool market due to the replacement cycle of these products and our industry-leading lead times.

Speaker #2: Gross margin expanded by 340 basis points to 28% in the fourth quarter, primarily resulting from volume leverage and the continued benefits from our lean manufacturing and value engineering initiatives.

Oliver Gloe: Gross margin expanded by 340 basis points to 28% in Q4, primarily resulting from volume leverage and the continued benefits from our lean manufacturing and value engineering initiatives. SG&A expenses increased to $31 million, up $4 million from $27 million in Q4 of 2024, largely driven by investments made in sales and marketing initiatives and personnel to drive increased penetration of fiberglass pools and auto covers, as well as higher performance-based compensation. Net loss was $7 million or $0.06 per diluted share, compared to $29 million or $0.25 per diluted share for the prior year's Q4. Q4 adjusted EBITDA was $10 million, up $7 million, almost 3 times the $3.6 million in the prior year period.

Speaker #2: SG&A expenses increased to $31 million, up $4 million from $27 million in Q4 of 2024, largely driven by investments made in sales and marketing initiatives and personnel to drive increased penetration of fiberglass pools and outer covers.

Speaker #2: As well as higher performance-based compensation. Net loss was 7 million, or 6 cents per diluted share, compared to 29 million or 25 cents per diluted share, for the prior year's fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA was $10 million, up $7 million—almost three times the $3.6 million in the prior year period. The strong performance primarily resulted from increased fiberglass pool sales, benefits from higher plant absorption efficiencies from lean manufacturing and value engineering initiatives, and continued cost discipline.

Oliver Gloe: The strong performance primarily resulted from increased fiberglass pool sales, benefits from higher plant absorption, efficiencies from lean manufacturing and value engineering initiatives, and continued cost discipline. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 11%, a 630 basis point increase year-over-year. Now turning to our full year results comparisons. Net sales were $546 million, up 7% compared to $509 million in the prior year, reflecting higher sales volume from both organic and acquisition-related growth and tariff-related price increases. Notably, this performance was achieved while we estimate the US in-ground pool market to be down low to mid-single digits in 2025. Organic growth of 5% benefited from execution on our key strategic priorities to drive awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools and auto covers.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA margin was 11%, a 630 basis point increase year over year. Now, turning to our full year results comparisons. Net sales were $546 million, up 7% compared to $509 million in the prior year, reflecting higher sales volume from both organic and acquisition-related growth, and tariff-related price increases.

Speaker #2: Notably, this performance was achieved while we estimate the US in-ground pool market to be down low to mid-single digits in 2025. Organic growth of 5% benefited from execution on our key strategic priorities to drive awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools and outer covers.

Speaker #2: Acquisition-related growth reflected the cover stock central transaction that was completed in August of 2024 and the acquisitions of smaller cover stock New York and Tennessee which we completed in February of 2025.

Oliver Gloe: Acquisition-related growth reflected the Coverstar Central transaction that was completed in August 2024, and the acquisitions of smaller Coverstar New York and Tennessee, which we completed in February 2025. All three product lines showed year-over-year growth. Latham's in-ground pool sales for the full year were $262 million, up 1% year-over-year. Importantly, this growth was achieved against a backdrop of a decline in US in-ground pool starts in 2025, primarily as a result of our success in increasing the awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools. As Sean mentioned, we estimate that market penetration of fiberglass pools increased again by one percentage point in 2025, and we see a long runway for continued conversion from concrete pools, especially in the important Sun Belt markets. Cover sales were $161 million, up 22%, driven by organic and acquisition growth.

Speaker #2: All three product lines showed year-over-year growth. Latham's in-ground pool sales for the full year were $262 million, up 1% year over year. Importantly, this growth was achieved against a backdrop of a decline in U.S. in-ground pool starts in 2025.

Speaker #2: Primarily as a result of our success in increasing the awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools. As Shaun mentioned, we estimate that market penetration of fiberglass pools increased again by 1 percentage point in 2025, and we see a long runway for continued conversion from concrete pools, especially in the important sand state markets.

Speaker #2: Cover sales were $161 million, up 22%, driven by organic and acquisition growth. Liner sales were $123 million, up 4% compared to the prior-year period, reflecting our industry-leading lead times and the increased adoption of our Measure Pro tool, which enables pool builders to accurately and efficiently measure both pool liners and covers.

Oliver Gloe: Liner sales were $123 million, up 4% compared to the prior year period, reflecting our industry-leading lead times and the increased adoption of our MeasurePRO tool, which enables pool builders to accurately and efficiently measure both pool liners and covers. With the introduction of our mobile app, MeasureGO, in Q3 2025, we broadened access to more builders as we seek to make the measurement and quotation process as seamless as possible. Gross margin expanded by 320 basis points to 33% compared to 30% in the prior year, primarily resulting from our lean manufacturing and value engineering initiatives, and a margin benefit from the 3 Coverstar acquisitions, as well as volume leverage.

Speaker #2: With the introduction of our mobile app Measure Go in the third quarter of 2025, we broadened access to more builders as we seek to make the measurement and quotation process as seamless as possible.

Speaker #2: Gross margin expanded by 320 basis points to 33% compared to 30% in the prior year, primarily resulting from our lean manufacturing and value engineering initiatives and a margin benefit from the three cover stock acquisitions as well as volume leverage.

Oliver Gloe: SG&A expenses increased to $123 million from $108 million in 2024, reflecting our increased investment in sales and marketing initiatives to expand the awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools and grow our market share in the Sun Belt, as well as investments in digital transformation, along with the impact of the Coverstar acquisitions. Net income for the full year was $11 million on $0.09 per diluted share, compared to a net loss of $18 million or $0.15 per diluted share from the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA was $100 million, up $20 million compared to $80 million in the prior year as a result of higher volume and our structurally improved business model.

Speaker #2: SG&A expenses increased to $123 million, from $108 million in 2024, reflecting our increased investments in sales and marketing initiatives to expand the awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools and grow our market share in the sandstate.

Speaker #2: As well as investments in digital transformation, along with the impact of the cover stock acquisitions. Net income for the full year was $11 million, or $0.09 per diluted share, compared to a net loss of $18 million, or $0.15 per diluted share, from the prior year.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA was $100 million, up $20 million compared to $80 million in the prior year, as a result of higher volume and our structurally improved business model.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.3% was 250 basis points above the 15.8% in 2024, thanks to our strong gross margin performance, which more than offset higher SG&A expense.

Oliver Gloe: Adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.3% was 250 basis points above the 15.8% in 2024, thanks to our strong gross margin performance, which more than offset higher SG&A expense. Turning to our balance sheet and cash flow statement, we ended the year in a strong financial position, which gives us the financial flexibility to fund organic growth projects as well as acquisition opportunities. Our cash position at year-end was $71 million. Net cash provided by operating activities was $11 million in Q4 and $51 million for full year 2025. We ended the year with total debt of $280 million and a net debt leverage ratio of 2.1, in line with our expectations.

Speaker #2: Turning to our balance sheet and cash flow statement, we ended the year in a strong financial position, which gives us the financial flexibility to fund organic growth projects as well as acquisition opportunities.

Speaker #2: Our cash position at year-end was $71 million. Net cash provided by operating activities was $11 million in the fourth quarter and $51 million for full year 2025.

Speaker #2: We ended the year with total debt of $280 million and a net debt leverage ratio of 2.1, in line with our expectations. Capital expenditures were $25 million for the full year 2025, compared to $20 million, with most of the additional investments going into our facilities in Florida and Oklahoma, as well as molds for smaller rectangular pools with spas, which are popular in the Sand States.

Oliver Gloe: Capital expenditures were $25 million for full year 2025, compared to $20 million in the prior year, with most of the additional investments going into our facilities in Florida and Oklahoma, as well as molds for smaller rectangular pools with spas, which are popular in the Sun Belt. As Sean noted, we are pleased to have recently completed the acquisition of Freedom Pools. We expect incremental net sales of approximately $20 million and incremental adjusted EBITDA of $4 million on an annualized basis, which we have reflected in our 2026 guidance. In addition, we recently completed the purchase of 4 of our key fiberglass production sites. These sites, which previously were leased, are important to our network and future growth.

Speaker #2: As Sean noted, we are pleased to have recently completed the acquisition of Freedom Pools. We expect incremental net sales of approximately 20 million and incremental adjusted EBITDA of 4 million on an annualized basis which we have reflected in our 2026 guidance.

Speaker #2: In addition, we recently completed the purchase of four of our key fiberglass production sites. These sites which previously were leased are important to our network and future growth.

Speaker #2: Including these acquisitions and the buildup of seasonal networking capital, we expect our net debt leverage ratio at the end of the first quarter to remain below 3, and to improve again thereafter.

Oliver Gloe: Including these acquisitions and the buildup of seasonal networking capital, we expect our net debt leverage ratio at the end of Q1 to remain below 3, and to improve again thereafter. Turning to our outlook for 2026, we believe that US in-ground pool starts this year will be approximately in line with 2025. Despite these continuing trough conditions, we believe Latham is uniquely positioned to outperform the overall market once again. This expectation is supported by our category leadership in fiberglass pools and auto covers, and the continued execution of our strategic priorities, namely driving the awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools and auto covers, accelerating fiberglass conversion in the important Sand States markets, and opportunistically making accretive acquisitions.

Speaker #2: Turning to our outlook for 2026, we believe that U.S. in-ground pool starts this year will be approximately in line with 2025. Despite these continuing trough conditions, we believe Latham is uniquely positioned to outperform the overall market once again.

Speaker #2: This expectation is supported by our category leadership in fiberglass pools and outer covers and the continued execution of our strategic priorities namely driving the awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools and outer covers accelerating fiberglass conversion in the important sandstate markets and opportunistically making accretive acquisitions.

Speaker #2: With this as a backdrop, our 2026 guidance is between 580 and 610 million in net sales and between 105 and 120 in adjusted EBITDA.

Oliver Gloe: With this as a backdrop, our 2026 guidance is between $580 and $610 million in net sales, and between $105 and $120 million in adjusted EBITDA, representing year-on-year growth of 9% and 12.7% respectively at the midpoints. This includes our expectation for mid-single-digit organic growth together with the benefits from the Freedom Pools acquisition and considers increased marketing expenses. Capital expenditures are projected to be in the range of $42 to $48 million. In addition to the $25 million that includes maintenance CapEx for 2026 and the carryover of certain projects from 2025, the additional expenditure relates to the purchase of four of our fiberglass manufacturing facilities in Florida, Texas, California, and West Virginia, as well as investments to upgrade the newly acquired Freedom Pools manufacturing facilities.

Speaker #2: Representing year-on-year growth of 9% and 12.7%, respectively, at the midpoints. This includes our expectation for mid-single-digit organic growth, together with the benefits from the Freedom Pools acquisition, and considers expenses.

Speaker #2: Capital expenditures are projected to be in the range of 42 to 48 million. In addition to the 25 million that includes maintenance CapEx for 2026 and the carryover of certain projects from 2025, the additional expenditure relates to the purchase of four of our fiberglass manufacturing facilities in Florida, Texas, California, and West Virginia as well as investments to upgrade the newly acquired Freedom Pools manufacturing facilities.

Speaker #2: With that, I will turn back the call to Sean for his closing remarks.

Oliver Gloe: With that, I will turn back the call to Sean for his closing remarks.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Oliver. As you just heard, we are expecting a year of very positive performance from Latham in 2026. A 9% growth expectations for this year at midpoint guidance is underpinned by Latham's specific performance.

Sean Gadd: Thank you, Oliver. As you just heard, we are expecting a year of very positive performance from Latham in 2026. Our 9% growth expectations for this year at midpoint guidance is underpinned by Latham's specific performance, as we believe trough market conditions are likely to continue through much of the year, with new US in-ground pool starts approximately at 2025 levels. From my experience, soft markets are good opportunities for us to accelerate our Sand State strategy and execution, as dealers and home builders will be more willing to consider change in soft markets versus stronger markets.

Speaker #1: As we believe trough market conditions are likely to continue through much of the year, with new U.S. in-ground pool starts approximately at 2025 levels.

Speaker #1: From my experience, soft markets are good opportunities for us to accelerate our sandstate strategy and execution, as dealers and homebuilders will be more willing to consider change in soft markets versus stronger markets.

Speaker #1: In 2026, we will continue to execute on our key strategic priorities namely to build the Latham brand and drive increased awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools and outer covers which we expect will enable us to continue to significantly outperform the US in-ground pool market.

Sean Gadd: In 2026, we will continue to execute on our key strategic priorities, namely to build the Latham brand and drive increased awareness and adoption of fiberglass pools and auto covers, which we expect will enable us to continue to significantly outperform the US in-ground pool market, while maintaining our focus on safety and excellent execution. Since joining Latham, I've met many of our customers, industry leaders, and our commercial people, and have toured 3 of our manufacturing facilities. It is clear to me that Latham is a highly respected brand and a company with the best and broadest product lineup in the industry, with a highly engaged workforce. I see tremendous opportunity for Latham to grow in the years ahead. I'm excited to drive our market penetration in the Sand States, rest of North America, Australia, and New Zealand.

Speaker #1: By maintaining our focus on safety and excellent execution, since joining Latham, I have met many of our customers' industry leaders and our commercial people and have toured three of our manufacturing facilities.

Speaker #1: It is clear to me that Latham is a highly respected brand and a company with the best and broadest product lineup in the industry.

Speaker #1: The highly engaged workforce, I see tremendous opportunity for Latham to grow in the years ahead and I'm excited to drive our market penetration in the sandstates rest of North America Australia and New Zealand.

Speaker #1: With our extensive distribution network, high-quality fiberglass pools and outer covers, and best-in-class lead times, we are positioned for accelerated profitable growth, especially when the market rebounds over the coming years.

Sean Gadd: With our extensive distribution network, high-quality fiberglass pools and auto covers, and best-in-class lead times, we are positioned for accelerated profitable growth, especially when the market rebounds over the coming years. I'll be leveraging my past experience to drive greater consumer awareness and demand for fiberglass and auto covers, and further enhance the value we deliver to our dealers. I would like to thank our dealers, industry partners, and our employees for their contributions to our success in 2025, and I look forward to working together in 2026. Operator, please open the call for questions.

Speaker #1: I'll be leveraging my past experience to drive greater consumer awareness and demand for fiberglass and outer covers and further enhance the value we deliver to our dealers.

Speaker #1: I would like to thank our dealers, industry partners, and our employees for their contributions to our success in 2025, and I look forward to working together in 2026.

Speaker #1: Operator, please open the call for questions.

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Speaker #2: Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks. Congrats on a good finish to the year. Sean, I wanted to start with you and recognize it's been a kind of short time since you've been CEO, but what do you learn?

Greg Palm: Yeah, thanks. Congrats on a good finish to the year. Sean, I wanted to start with you and, you know, recognize it's been a kind of short time since you've been CEO, but what did you learn? What excites you? You know, it's probably a little bit too early to ask this question, but in terms of any change in strategy or anything you wanna lean into a little bit more going forward?

Speaker #3: What excites you—and it’s probably a little bit too early to ask this question—but in terms of any change in strategy or anything you want to lean into a little bit more going forward?

Sean Gadd: Thanks, Greg. Good question. It's been a fast eight weeks, I guess. I've seen a lot of parts of the business. From my perspective, I'm very excited about what the opportunity looks like in the Sand States. I think that that is somewhere we will continue to lean on. I think from my perspective, what I've learned in my past about market development, I think I can help the team to get a little bit more focused and drive true market development into the NPCs. For me, that's really about lead generation, quality of leads, getting the brand where we want it. At the same time, getting qualified dealers into the NPCs that are gonna fulfill that demand.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Greg. Good question. It's been a fast eight weeks, I guess, and I've seen a lot of parts of the business. From my perspective, I'm very excited about what the opportunity looks like in the sand states.

Speaker #1: I think that is somewhere we will continue to lean on. I think from my perspective, what I've learned in my past about market development, I think I can help the team to get a little bit more focused and drive true market development into the NPCs.

Speaker #1: And for me, that's really about lead generation, quality of leads, getting the brand where we want it. At the same time, getting qualified dealers into the NPCs that are going to fulfill that demand.

Speaker #1: When I think about qualified dealers, I think there's a lot of work we can do around segmentation, targeting, and positioning around which are the right dealers.

Sean Gadd: When I think about qualified dealers, I mean, you know, I think there's a lot of work we can do around segmentation, targeting, positioning around which are the right dealers. Being clear on what our positioning is to those dealers, which is to make more money, and then being important for me is getting those dealers to position in the home to be able to talk to our fiberglass value proposition as well as we would. I think when we do all that right, I think we'll start to get some leverage in the Sand States. When I back out a bit, in general, the business is running very well.

Speaker #1: Being clear on what our positioning is for the dealers, which is to make more money, and then being importantly, important for me is getting those dealers to position in the home to be able to talk to our fiberglass value proposition as well as we would.

Speaker #1: And I think when we do all that right, I think we'll start to get some leverage in the sandstates. And then when I back out a bit in general, the business is running very well.

Speaker #1: I see opportunity even in our northern markets, which will ultimately help us fund or the things we want to do and need to do in order to grow in our sandstates.

Sean Gadd: I see opportunity even in our northern markets, which will ultimately help us fund the things we wanna do and need to do in order to grow in our Sand States.

Speaker #3: And you seem pretty excited about the conversion opportunity, and I'm just curious—is there any change in strategy in helping to accelerate that conversion opportunity, or is it more just sort of leaning into some of the initiatives that have been done and really accelerated over the last year or so?

Greg Palm: Pretty excited about the conversion opportunity, and I'm just curious, is there any change in strategy in helping to accelerate that conversion opportunity? Is it more just sort of leaning into some of the initiatives that, you know, have been sort of done and really accelerated over the last year or so?

Speaker #1: I think there's a lot of leaning in, but one of the things I've added, well, I'll add to it is managing the install costs of the job.

Sean Gadd: I think there's a lot of leaning in, but, one of the things what I'll add to it is managing the install costs of the job. If anything, when you're selling against a standard, the natural state is to put insurances into the job so you don't lose any money or the job doesn't go wrong. Controlling that to some degree, 'cause again, we're a very small portion of the total cost of a job, so us being able to manage it all the way through, I think will be an important addition to what we're trying to do.

Speaker #1: So if anything, when you're selling against the standard, the natural state is to put insurances into the job so you don't lose any money.

Speaker #1: Or the job doesn't go wrong. And so controlling that to some degree, because, again, we're a very small portion of the total cost of a job.

Speaker #1: So, us being able to manage it all the way through, I think, will be an important addition to what we're trying to do.

Speaker #3: Yep. Okay. And then just one for Oliver—can you help just unpack the guide for '26 on a segment basis, in terms of that mid-single-digit organic growth?

Greg Palm: Yep. Okay. Just one for Oliver, can you help unpack the guide for 2026 on a segment basis in terms of, you know, that mid-single digit organic growth? Is that across the board in pools, covers, liners? Is it skewed towards one category versus the other? I know you're coming off of a pretty good year in covers, but what's your overall thought on a segment basis? Thanks.

Speaker #3: Is that across the board in pools, covers, liners? Is it skewed towards one category versus the other? I know you're coming off of a pretty good year in covers, but what's your overall thought on a segment basis?

Speaker #3: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Yeah, Greg. So again, overall, the guide is about 9%. The organic part of it is 6%. Across the different product categories, as you would expect, the majority of the growth in key growth drivers will continue to be fiberglass.

Oliver Gloe: Yeah, Greg. Again, you know, overall the guide is about 9%. This is, you know, the organic part of it is 6%. Across the different product categories, as you will expect, the majority of the growth and key growth drivers will continue to be fiberglass. The continued conversion, especially indexing towards the Sand States, as well as continued growth through awareness and adoption of auto covers. We do, as part of our guidance project that all three of our product categories continue to grow, like they've done in 2025, but again, indexing towards fiberglass pools as well as auto covers.

Speaker #4: The continued conversion especially indexing towards the sandstates as well as continued growth through awareness and adoption of outer covers. We do, as part of our guidance project, that all three of our product categories continue to grow like they've done in 25.

Speaker #4: But again, indexing towards fiberglass pools as well as outer covers.

Speaker #3: Okay. Appreciate the color. Thanks.

Greg Palm: Okay. Appreciate the color. Thanks.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Greg.

Oliver Gloe: Thanks, Greg.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Sean Gadd: Thank you.

Speaker #2: The next question is from Tim Weiss with Baird. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question is from Timothy Wojs with Baird. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Welcome, Shaun. Maybe just—first question that I had, just I guess, how would you—if you kind of step back and look at the early demand indicators that you have in maybe January and February, and kind of coming into '26, I guess how would you kind of frame those relative to kind of a normal year for '26?

Anika Dholakia: Hey, guys. Good, good afternoon. Welcome, Sean Gadd.

Tim Wojs: Hey, guys. Good, good afternoon. Welcome, Sean Gadd.

Sean Gadd: Thank you.

Anika Dholakia: Maybe just, first question that I had, just I guess if you kinda step back and look at the early demand indicators, you know, that you have in maybe January and February and kinda coming into 2026. I guess, how would you kind of frame those relative to kind of a normal year for 2026?

Tim Wojs: Maybe just, first question that I had, just I guess if you kinda step back and look at the early demand indicators, you know, that you have in maybe January and February and kinda coming into 2026. I guess, how would you kind of frame those relative to kind of a normal year for 2026?

Sean Gadd: A couple of things. First, obviously, we've just come out of the season where we get to meet all of our dealers and our industry partners. I think it's been a relatively strong, obviously, the quarter was relatively strong in terms of Q4. That was driven by a number of things. One, I think really good performance from the team. Two, we got an elongated sales cycle in that quarter because the weather turned out to be pretty good. Which, you know, as we think about going into Q1 a little bit different, with the bit of bad weather coming through. In general, you know, I think the industry is sort of believing that it's going to be a flat year.

Speaker #1: A couple of things. First, obviously, we've just come out of the season where we've got to meet all of our dealers and our industry partners. I think it's been a relatively strong—obviously, the quarter was relatively strong in terms of Q4.

Speaker #1: And that was driven by a number of things. One, I think really good performance from the team. Two, we got an elongated sales cycle in that quarter because the weather turned out to be pretty good.

Speaker #1: Which, as we think about going into Q1, a little bit different with the bit of bad weather coming through. But in general, I think the industry is sort of believing that it's going to be a flat year.

Speaker #1: And I think there are so many things that are kind of going against the industry today that we need to be lifted. Things like our interest rates, things like our consumer confidence, that will help get the starts going.

Sean Gadd: I think there are so many things that are kind of going against the industry today that will need to be lifted, things like our interest rates, things like our consumer confidence, that will help get the starts going. In general, tough market conditions, but feel good about what we can deliver in that environment.

Speaker #1: But in general, tough market conditions, but feel good about what we can deliver in that environment.

Speaker #3: Okay. Okay. And then Oliver, I think the midpoint of the guide is maybe 50, 60 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion. Could you just help us kind of break that down between what the gross margin contribution is and maybe what SG&A should be?

Anika Dholakia: Okay. Oliver, I think the midpoint of the guide is maybe 50, 60 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion. Could you just help us kind of break that down between what the gross margin contribution is and maybe what, you know, SG&A should be?

Tim Wojs: Okay. Oliver, I think the midpoint of the guide is maybe 50, 60 basis points of EBITDA margin expansion. Could you just help us kind of break that down between what the gross margin contribution is and maybe what, you know, SG&A should be?

Speaker #4: Yes. As you would expect, right? So the majority of the margin contribution comes from higher gross margin, especially the continuation of our initiatives in lean manufacturing and value engineering.

Oliver Gloe: Yeah. As you would expect, right? The majority or you know, the margin contribution comes from higher gross margin, especially the continuation of our initiatives in lean manufacturing and value engineering. Those paid dividends in 2025. They will continue to pay dividends in 2026, six as well. You will, with the increased top line, see a moderate degree of volume leverage. You know, to bring that down on an EBITDA percentage, which is 60 basis points up, you have higher gross margin that outperforms the increased investment in SG&A, as we are ramping up our sales and marketing efforts in fiberglass, especially geared towards the Sand States.

Speaker #4: Those pay dividends in 2025. They will continue to pay dividends in '26 as well. You will, with the increased top line, see a moderate degree of volume leverage.

Speaker #4: And then to bring that down on an EBITDA percentage, which is 60 basis points up, you have higher gross margin that outperforms the increased investments in SG&A.

Speaker #4: As we are ramping up our sales and marketing efforts in fiberglass, especially geared towards the Sand States.

Speaker #3: Okay. I mean, I guess if I look at gross margins, you’re probably up close to 300 basis points a year for the last couple of years.

Anika Dholakia: Okay. I mean, I guess if I look at gross margins, you know, you're, you know, you're probably up close to 300 basis points a year for the last couple of years. I mean, is it that type of magnitude of gross profit improvement, or is it a lot more measured this year?

Tim Wojs: Okay. I mean, I guess if I look at gross margins, you know, you're, you know, you're probably up close to 300 basis points a year for the last couple of years. I mean, is it that type of magnitude of gross profit improvement, or is it a lot more measured this year?

Speaker #3: I mean, is it that type of magnitude of gross profit improvement or is it a lot more measured this year?

Speaker #4: Yeah, I want to say it's probably not going to be the 300-plus gross margin expansion. 300 basis points plus gross margin expansion that you've seen both in '25 as well as '24.

Oliver Gloe: Yeah, I wanna say it's probably not gonna be the 300 plus gross margin expansion, clear basis points plus gross margin expansion that you've seen both in 2025 as well as 2024. It'll be a little bit more moderate, our expectation is that we take a meaningful step towards that 35% gross margin.

Speaker #4: It'll be a little bit more moderate. But our expectation is that we take a meaningful step towards that 35% gross margin.

Speaker #3: Okay. Okay. Very good. And then just the last one, just on the sandstates, did you I didn't quite catch it. Did you say the sandstates as a percentage of sales were about flat year over year in terms I think 17% or I guess similar year over year.

Anika Dholakia: Okay, very good. Then just the last one, just on the Sand States, did you, I didn't quite catch it. Did you say the Sand States as a percentage of sales were about flat year-over-year in terms of I think 17% or I guess similar year-over-year? I guess, A, did you say that? I guess, you know, 2, how did Florida do within that?

Tim Wojs: Okay, very good. Then just the last one, just on the Sand States, did you, I didn't quite catch it. Did you say the Sand States as a percentage of sales were about flat year-over-year in terms of I think 17% or I guess similar year-over-year? I guess, A, did you say that? I guess, you know, 2, how did Florida do within that?

Speaker #3: I guess, A, did you say that? And I guess two, how did Florida do within that?

Oliver Gloe: That's great. We stayed about flat. Within that, Florida was the shining star and certainly, you know, our focus in 2025 with a double-digit growth and, you know, a strong outperformance versus the market as it measured against the permit data. I think a close follower to that was Arizona, obviously on a much smaller scale for us, right? We had Texas, which obviously where permits were down and as a result, you know, that reflected on our business as well as we shifted focus towards Florida.

Speaker #4: That's great. So we stayed about flat within that. Florida was the shining star and certainly our focus in 2025, with double-digit growth and a strong outperformance versus the market as measured against the permit data.

Speaker #4: I think it close followed too that was Arizona obviously on a much, much smaller scale for us, right? And then we had Texas which obviously where permits were down and as a result, that reflected on our business as well as we shifted focus towards Florida.

Speaker #3: And is it fair to think that now that you've become a little bit more seasoned in Florida and you've got at least one pool season, if not a season and a half behind you, that the Florida trends could actually begin to accelerate from here?

Anika Dholakia: Is it fair to think that, you know, now that you've become a little bit more seasoned in Florida and you've got at least a, you know, one pool season, if not a season and a half behind you, that, you know, the Florida trends could actually, you know, begin to accelerate from here as you kind of build up...

Tim Wojs: Is it fair to think that, you know, now that you've become a little bit more seasoned in Florida and you've got at least a, you know, one pool season, if not a season and a half behind you, that, you know, the Florida trends could actually, you know, begin to accelerate from here as you kind of build up...

Speaker #3: As you kind of build up.

Sean Gadd: I'll take that. I'll take that. I do think we should be able to accelerate Florida. What I'm trying to figure out, as I get into the business is a formula that we can take into Texas. You know, obviously we've got the Sand State strategy. I believe that we've got most of the pieces right for that. We've got to do some fine-tuning, and I think there's a piece as well to think about, which is builder, how we think about single family new construction builders. I've got a background in the new construction world, and I think I've got some segmentation models that I think can work.

Speaker #1: I'll take that. I'll take that. I do think we should be able to accelerate Florida. What I'm trying to figure out as I get into the business is a formula that we can take into Texas.

Speaker #1: So, obviously, we've got the Sandstate strategy. I believe that we've got most of the pieces right for that. We've got to do some fine-tuning.

Speaker #1: And then I think there's a piece as well to think about, which is how we think about single-family new construction builders. I've got a background in the new construction world, and I think I've got some segmentation models that I think can work.

Speaker #1: And like I said, on my call was you've got an opportunity down market to really change the way people do things and there's two different paths for a builder when they think about it down market is to pretty much batten the hatches or to differentiate their way out of it because they're trying to sell more homes or sell more homes or sell for more money.

Sean Gadd: Like I said on my call was, you know, you've got an opportunity down market to really change the way people do things. There's two different paths for a builder when they think about a down market, is to pretty much batten the hatches or to differentiate their way out of it, 'cause they're trying to sell more homes or sell for more money. We've got examples of both. I've got example of Lennar telling us we're gonna batten the hatches, and you've got Taylor Morrison, who's offering $50,000 of upgrades, or actually including a pool. I think that's a piece that I'd like to understand a little bit more before we go and really look to accelerate it across the South.

Speaker #1: And so we've got examples of both. I've got an example of Lennar telling us we're going to batten the hatches, and you've got Tata Morrison is offering $50,000 of upgrades or actually including a pool.

Speaker #1: So I think that's a piece that I'd like to understand a little bit more. Before we go and really look to accelerate across the south.

Speaker #3: Great. Well, thanks for all the color right now. Good luck this year.

Anika Dholakia: Great. Well, thanks for all the color right now. Good luck this year.

Tim Wojs: Great. Well, thanks for all the color right now. Good luck this year.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Oliver Gloe: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Tim.

Sean Gadd: Thanks, Tim.

Speaker #5: The next question is from Scott Stringer with Wolf Research. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question is from Scott Stringer with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Hey, guys. Thanks for the time. And I dig into your 10Ks and 10Qs, it seems like industry pricing has been fairly muted for the past couple of years.

Scott Stringer: Hey, guys. Thanks for the time. When I dig into your 10-K's and Form 10-Q, it seems like industry pricing has been fairly muted for the past couple of years, maybe some of that's mixed. Just wondering what your outlook for pricing is in 2026 and if there's any pricing power in the industry this year.

Speaker #6: Maybe some of that's mixed. So, just wondering what your outlook for pricing is in 2026, and if there's any pricing power in the industry this year.

Speaker #4: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Price has been sort of flat. I should remind you, though, that during 2025, right around June, we did have a price increase of about $10 million to cater to the tariff headwinds that we saw at the time and still see today.

Oliver Gloe: Yeah, I think, you're absolutely right. Price has been sort of flattish. Now, I'll remind you though that during 2025, right around June, we did have a price increase of about $10 million to cater to the tariff headwinds that we saw at the time and still see today. From a price perspective, in 2026, you'll have 2 things. One is the run rate and full year impact of that June 2025 price increase. Again, for simplicity of math and modeling, take half of the $10 million plus the normal annual and seasonal price increase that we usually take for, you know, to cover inflation and so forth.

Speaker #4: So from a price perspective in 2026, you'll have two things. One is the run rate and full-year impact of that June 2025 price increase.

Speaker #4: Again, for simplicity of math and modeling, take half of the 10 million. Plus the normal annual and seasonal price increase that we usually take for to cover inflation and so forth.

Oliver Gloe: I wanna say price, you know, given this, you know, being the combination of both, will probably be adding 2% to our to our top line.

Speaker #4: So, I want to say, price given as being the combination of both will probably be adding 2% to our top line.

Oliver Gloe: I wanna say price, you know, given this, you know, being the combination of both, will probably be adding 2% to our to our top line.

Speaker #6: Yeah, that's interesting. And then for my follow-up question, just on customer financing—interest rates seem to be coming down a little bit here, but the outlook is for flattish pool installs.

Scott Stringer: Yeah, that's interesting. For my follow-up question, just on customer financing, interest rates seem to be coming down a little bit here, but outlook for flattish pool installs. Is interest rates a tailwind in this sort of macro backdrop, or is that not really embedded in the outlook?

Speaker #6: So, is interest rates a tailwind in this sort of macro backdrop, or is that not really embedded in the outlook?

Speaker #4: So I want to say so interest rates certainly help. They've certainly come down. We don't yet see a pickup from that. And what I attribute that to is in an environment where the next quarter might have a lower interest rate.

Oliver Gloe: I wanna say, interest rates certainly help. They've certainly come down. We don't yet see a pickup from that. What I attribute that to is in an environment where, you know, the next quarter might have a lower interest rate. You know, I think a lot of homeowners on the sidelines, right? You know, an expectation of lower interest rates ahead just means that the pool buying decision tomorrow will be less expensive than the pool buying decision today, at least for the part of interest costs. I think it's a good trend.

Speaker #4: I think a lot of homeowners on the sidelines, right? An expectation of lower interest rates ahead. Just means that the pool buying decision tomorrow will be less expensive than the pool buying decision today.

Speaker #4: At least for the part of interest costs. So I think it's a good trend. I think what I would like to see in 2026 is that we get to the new normal, a new interest rate that is stable going forward.

Oliver Gloe: I think, what I would like to see in 2026 is that we get to the new normal, a new interest rate that is stable going forward. I think that might incentivize the homeowner to make that decision to buy a pool in the season.

Speaker #4: I think that might incentivize the homeowner to make that decision to buy a pool in the season.

Speaker #5: Got it. Really appreciate the detail. Good luck, guys.

Scott Stringer: Got it. Really appreciate the detail. Good luck, guys.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Oliver Gloe: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Scott.

Sean Gadd: Thanks, Scott.

Speaker #5: The next question is from Matthew Booley with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question is from Matthew Bouley with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Good evening. You have Anika Dlakia on for Matt today. Thank you for taking my questions. So, first off, I just wanted to circle—hey, so I just wanted to circle back on the MPC strategy.

Anika Dholakia: Good evening. You have Anika Dholakia on for Matt today. Thank you for taking my questions. first off, I just wanted to.

Oliver Gloe: Hey, Anika.

Anika Dholakia: Hey, I just wanted to circle back on the MPC strategy. You guys spoke to leaning into the conversion efforts, and you called out more growth this quarter in Florida, which is great to hear. Right now it seems that you guys are targeting smaller mid-sized communities. I'm just curious on the longer term vision for this. Is the vision to partner with large-scale production builders, or how are you thinking about further penetration in this channel? Thanks.

Speaker #7: You guys spoke to leaning into the conversion efforts and you called out more growth this quarter in Florida, which is great to hear. Right now, it seems that you guys are targeting smaller midsize communities.

Speaker #7: So, I'm just curious on the longer-term vision for this. Is the vision to partner with large-scale production builders, or how are you thinking about further penetration in this channel?

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #1: So thank you, Anika. I'll answer that. I mean, we are the MPCs I'll start with are relatively large. When I drove through there, you're talking communities of 65,000 homes.

Sean Gadd: Thank you, Nika. I'll answer that. I mean, the MPCs I'll start with are relatively large. When I drove through there, you're talking communities of 65,000 homes. It's a pretty large community. Obviously, multiple builders in that community. Majority of pools, from what I understand, go in sort of 1 year after purchase or 1 year after you move in, and 1 to 3 years. The start where we are today is pretty much going after market to go and attack that MPC. I do envisage us going after builders. You mentioned the big national builders. You really got to earn your way to the space of national builders.

Speaker #1: So it's a pretty large community. Obviously, multiple builders in that community. Majority of pools, from what I understand, go in sort of one year after purchase or one year after you move in.

Speaker #1: And one to three years. So the start where we are today is pretty much going aftermarket to go and attack that MPC. But I do envisage us going after builders, but you mentioned the big national builders you really got to earn your way to the space of the national builders and from my perspective, market development starts at the highest price point that's available to you.

Sean Gadd: You know, from my perspective, market development starts at the highest price point that's available to you, and you're looking for a visionary builder who wants to put pools into to differentiate themselves. Slowly you work your way down to price points till you eventually land, when you're face to face competing with a national builder. At that point, the national builders start to pay attention. I do think we'll end up playing in that space. I don't think we are ready to do that yet, I do see that as being a future play for us as we slowly do our market development to get to their price points.

Speaker #1: And you're looking for a visionary builder. He wants to put pools into differentiate themselves and then slowly you work your way down at price points till you eventually land when you're face-to-face competing with national builder.

Speaker #1: At that point, the national builders start to pay attention. So, I do think we'll end up playing in that space. I don't think we're ready to do that yet.

Speaker #1: But I do see that as being a future play for us as we slowly do our market development to get to that price point.

Speaker #7: Great. Thank you for that, Sean. And then for my second question, Oliver can you give us more detail on the appetite for capacity expansion beyond these four facilities you guys mentioned or do you feel well-equipped with the current capacity levels in 2026?

[Analyst] (Barclays): Great. Thank you for that, Sean. For my second question, Oliver, can you give us more detail on the appetite for capacity expansion beyond these four facilities you guys mentioned? Do you feel well equipped with the current capacity levels in 2026? Just any details around the cadence of the spend flowing through the year. Thanks.

Anika Dholakia: Great. Thank you for that, Sean. For my second question, Oliver, can you give us more detail on the appetite for capacity expansion beyond these four facilities you guys mentioned? Do you feel well equipped with the current capacity levels in 2026? Just any details around the cadence of the spend flowing through the year. Thanks.

Speaker #7: And then just any details around the cadence of the spend flowing through the year. Thanks.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I think, first of all, let me address the purchase of the four fiberglass facilities. Those were facilities that were sort of in our grid already.

Oliver Gloe: Yeah. I think, first of all, let me address the purchase of the four fiberglass facilities. That were facilities that were sort of in our grid already. We leased them. They're very strategic for us. We did wanna buy them and did that earlier in the year. We did that early February. I think from a capacity standpoint, I think we have everything we need, right? I always, in the earnings call, I've always referred to when this business was or when the market was at 117,000 pools in 2021, we actually had free capacity, especially in fiberglass. Since then, obviously the market is almost at half.

Speaker #4: We leased them. They're very strategic for us. We did want to buy them, and did that earlier in the year. We did that in early February.

Speaker #4: I think from a capacity standpoint, Anika, I think we have everything we need, right? I always in the earnings call, I always refer to when this business was or when the market was at 117,000 pools in 2021, we actually had free capacity especially in fiberglass.

Speaker #4: Since then, obviously, the market is almost at half. And we've done some reduction of redundant capacity in the aftermath of that market decline. But we've also built capacity.

Oliver Gloe: You know, we've done some reduction of redundant capacity in the aftermath of that market decline, but we've also built capacity. We've built capacity through Kingston, the expansion of Oklahoma. Net-net, I might add, we also build capacity through our lean and value engineering initiatives. Net-net, we probably today have more capacity than we had when the market was double the size. I think from a high level perspective, we have what we need from a capacity standpoint for the foreseeable future. I think as we develop our Sand States strategy, you know, there are some geographies with one eye, you know, in Arizona, that may need some adjustments going forward in terms of building capacity. I think for now, we have what we need.

Speaker #4: We've built capacity through Kingston, the expansion of Oklahoma. So net, net. And then I might add, we also built capacity through our lean and value engineering initiatives.

Speaker #4: So net, net, we probably today have more capacity than we had when the market was double the size. So I think from a high-level perspective, we have what we need from a capacity standpoint for the foreseeable future.

Speaker #4: I think as we develop our sandstate strategy, there are some geographies with one eye in Arizona that may need some adjustments going forward in terms of building capacity.

Speaker #4: But I think for now, we have what we need.

Speaker #7: Thanks both. I'll pass it on.

[Analyst] (Barclays): Thanks, both. I'll pass it on.

Anika Dholakia: Thanks, both. I'll pass it on.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Oliver Gloe: Thank you.

Speaker #5: The next question is from Susan McLary with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question is from Susan Maklari with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker #8: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. My first question is hello. My first question is on the dealer backlogs coming into this year. Can you just talk a bit about where they are and what you're hearing from your dealers ahead of the spring?

Susan Maklari: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone.

Sean Gadd: Good afternoon, Susan.

Susan Maklari: Hello. My first question is on the dealer backlogs coming into this year. Can you just talk a bit about where they are and what you're hearing from your dealers ahead of the spring?

Sean Gadd: Yeah. I think there's two parts to that question. The first one is our dealers were able to get a lot of work done with the extended season in Q4. That said, when I think about even just our backlog, very pleasing results early in the year. Obviously weather's playing a little part of it right now. I mean, I'm sitting here in New York and it's snowing. In general, I'd say that backlogs look pretty good. I think that the dealers are feeling relatively optimistic about where the year might be.

Speaker #1: Yeah. I think there's two parts to that question. The first one is our dealers were able to get a lot of work done with the extended season in Q4.

Speaker #1: That said, when I think about even just our backlog, very pleasing results early in the year. Obviously, weather's playing a little part of it right now.

Speaker #1: I mean, I'm sitting here in New York and it's snowing. But in general, I'd say that backlogs look pretty good. I think that the dealers are feeling relatively optimistic about where the year might be.

Speaker #8: Okay. All right. That's encouraging. And then turning back to the margins, you've made a lot of really nice progress with the value engineering initiatives.

Susan Maklari: Okay. All right. That's encouraging. Then turning back to the margins, you've made a lot of really nice progress with the value engineering initiatives. Can you talk about where you see opportunities from here and how we should think about the benefits of that starting to flow through?

Speaker #8: Can you talk about where you see opportunities from here and how we should think about the benefits of that starting to flow through?

Speaker #4: So I think let me start with lean manufacturing. Lean manufacturing is more working on the process, whereas value engineering is more working on the product.

Oliver Gloe: I think, you know, let me start with lean manufacturing. Lean manufacturing is more working on the process, whereas value engineering is more working on the product. I think lean manufacturing between the two is the more mature program. Think of a lot of, you know, Kaizen events, workshops that are then after completion might, you know, expanded to best practice learning and expanded to the other sites. I think lean manufacturing is in our DNA. It's how we improve on a year-to-day, on a year-by-year basis. Lots of little projects that add up to something meaningful at the end. And I expect that to continue over the next few years as well.

Speaker #4: I think lean manufacturing, between the two, is the more mature program. Think of a lot of Kaizen events and workshops that are then, after completion, expanded to best practice learning and rolled out to the other sites.

Speaker #4: I think lean manufacturing is in our DNA. It's how we improve on a year-by-year basis. So, lots of little projects that add up to something meaningful at the end.

Speaker #4: And I expect that to continue over the next few years as well. Whereas value engineering, think of the work on the product to make the product more give it a higher quality.

Oliver Gloe: Whereas value engineering, think of, the work on the product to make the product more, you know, give it a higher quality, give a better appearance, but also take out some costs, right? Reengineer the material basis. Here I would say there are more low-hanging fruits and more bigger projects, that we then can replicate, you know, across the grid. Again, lean manufacturing, a little bit mature. Value engineering is probably more new to us. We have a great organization, with PhD level material scientists. That we have great expectations for in 2026, as well as the years beyond.

Speaker #4: Give it a better appearance, but also take out some costs, right? Re-engineer the material basis. So here I would say there are more low-hanging fruits and more bigger projects.

Speaker #4: That we then can replicate across the grid. Again, lean manufacturing a little bit mature. Value engineering is probably more new to us. We have a great organization.

Speaker #4: With PhD-level material scientists, we have great expectations for 2026, as well as the years beyond.

Speaker #8: Okay. And maybe just building on that—Oliver, you've done a lot in terms of new product introductions more relatively recently. Can you talk about the momentum that you're seeing with those?

Susan Maklari: Okay. And maybe just building on that, Oliver, you know, you've done a lot in terms of new product introductions, more relatively recently. Can you talk about the momentum that you're seeing with those, and anything that you have planned for 2026 in terms of product launches that we should be aware of or paying attention to?

Speaker #8: And anything that you have planned for 2026 in terms of product launches that we should be aware of or paying attention to?

Sean Gadd: I'll take that too. I think, from my perspective that we've done a fair bit of, to your point, a fair bit of innovation. We understood kind of what we've seen so far in terms of growth, but what I will tell you based on my movements around the marketplace, We've reacted to some trends and have built the right product lines to basically cover where the market's going in general. We've got Sand States-specific investment around product, which has been completed. We have the right product for Florida that will enable us to penetrate, and we now are starting to and have pretty much the right product for Texas as well. As the Sand States grow, you would expect those product lines to grow as well.

Speaker #1: I'll take that too. And I think from my perspective, we've done a fair bit of, to your point, a fair bit of innovation and we understood kind of what we've seen so far in terms of growth.

Speaker #1: But what I will tell you, based on my movements around the marketplace, is we've reacted to some trends and have built the right product lines to basically cover where the market's going.

Speaker #1: In general. And then we've got sandstate-specific investment around product, which has been completed. So we have the right product for Florida that will enable us to penetrate.

Speaker #1: And we now are starting and have pretty much the right product for four Texas as well. So as the sand states grow, you would expect those product lines to grow as well.

Speaker #1: And then, obviously, with Measure, we continue to drive that. We've got good penetration in the first full year of launching, and we see that as continuing to penetrate through the marketplace and getting more people using it, enabling us to get more liner and safety covers.

Sean Gadd: Obviously with Measure, we continue to drive that with a good penetration in the first full year of launching. We see that as continuing to penetrate through the marketplace and getting more people using it, enabling us to get more liner and safety covers.

Speaker #8: Okay. All right. Thank you both for the call, and good luck with the quarter.

Susan Maklari: Okay. All right. Thank you both for the color, and good luck with the quarter.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Sean Gadd: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Oliver Gloe: Thank you.

Speaker #5: The next question is from Shaun Calnan with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question is from Shaun Kelley with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker #9: Hi guys, thank you for taking my questions. Just the first one—so we've seen pretty strong improvement in search trends for new pools, and then meaningful outperformance in the search trends for Latham.

Shaun Kelley: Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. Just the first one. We've seen pretty strong improvement in search trends for new pools and then meaningful outperformance in the search trends for Latham. What do you think is holding potential buyers back at this point? How do you unlock that and turn those into sales? Is it just a matter of rates, consumer confidence? What do you think the key drivers are?

Speaker #9: What do you think is holding potential buyers back at this point? And how do you unlock that and turn those into sales? Is it just a matter of rates, consumer confidence?

Speaker #9: What do you think the key drivers are?

Speaker #1: Yeah, that's a good question. I think it's multifaceted. One, when I was in Florida and certainly at the International Boulder Show, I was surprised how many people didn't understand fiberglass, didn't even know how fiberglass pools get installed in the backyard.

Sean Gadd: That's a good question. I think it's multifaceted. One, when I was in Florida and certainly at the International Builders' Show, I was surprised how many people didn't understand fiberglass, didn't even know how fiberglass pools get installed in the backyard. One person actually asked if it comes in 2 pieces. We've got some education, basic education we need to do and awareness. You'll see that with these ads on TV, and that will continue, and we'll always be on. The second part of it is, you know, a homeowner doesn't engage with our brand at a high frequency, so we're not a consumer good. However, when we're in the cycle of buying something, they do engage.

Speaker #1: And one person actually asked if it comes in two pieces. So we've got some education. Basic education we need to do and awareness. Which and you'll see that there's ads on TV and that will continue and will always be on.

Speaker #1: The second part of it is we are we don't a homeowner doesn't engage with our brand high frequency. So we're not a consumer good.

Speaker #1: However, when they're in the cycle of buying something, they do engage. Now, the key for me is ensuring that when they engage, and get onto the path to purchase, we don't drop them.

Sean Gadd: Now, the key for me is ensuring when they engage and get onto the path to purchase, that we don't drop them, okay? We don't lose them. When I think about what causes a homeowner angst and why they might drop off the path to purchase, it's usually around decision-making. The first decision-making is what contractors should I use? Do I know this contractor is gonna be here next year when something goes wrong? That's the first question we have to help them feel comfortable with.

Speaker #1: Okay? And we don't lose them. And so when I think about what causes a homeowner angst, and why they might drop off the path to purchase, it's usually around decision-making.

Speaker #1: And the first decision-making is, what contractors should I use? Do I know those contractors are going to be here next year when something goes wrong?

Speaker #1: So that's the first question we have to help them feel comfortable with. And how do we do that is we make sure that, again, segmentation—the right dealers are available to them at the NPC, so that we can make sure that the story is being told at the kitchen table, and the work and the quality is the way we want it to be in the NPCs.

Sean Gadd: How do we do that is we make sure that, again, segmentation, the right dealers are available to them at the NPCs so that we can make sure that the story is being told in the kitchen table and the work and the quality is the way we want it to be in the NPCs. The second challenge will be around colors and around shapes and sizes, right? Those are all decision points where a homeowner might get frustrated and might decide to defer. Our job is to make all those things with tools as easy as possible, which we'll develop over time, but make sure that we meet our consumer when we need to and make sure we have the right tools to make their decision-making much easier.

Speaker #1: The second part, second challenge will be around colors and around shapes and sizes, right? So those are all decision points where a homeowner might get frustrated and might decide to all those things with tools as easy as possible, which we'll develop over the time.

Speaker #1: But make sure that we meet our consumer when we need to. And make sure we have the right tools to make their decision-making much easier.

Speaker #1: Then we at least we're controlling what we can control. The macro environment is out of our control. When that comes back, we'll get the benefit of it.

Sean Gadd: At least we're controlling what we can control. The macro environment is out of our control. When that comes back, we'll get the benefit of it. We have plenty to do to make the path to purchase much easier than it is today.

Speaker #1: But we have plenty to do to make the path to purchase much easier than it is today.

Speaker #5: Okay, great, thank you. And then, on the acquisition of the manufacturing facility—so that's increasing CapEx next year—is there any impact to the P&L in terms of lease expense or depreciation and amortization?

Shaun Kelley: Okay, great. Thank you. On the acquisition of the manufacturing facility, that's increasing CapEx next year. Is there any impact to the P&L in terms of lease expense or depreciation and amortization? What are you guys expecting for free cash flow next year or this year?

Speaker #5: And then, what are you guys expecting for free cash flow next year? Or this year?

Speaker #4: So in terms of the impact to the P&L, and I limit my comments to EBITDA. So the purchase replaces a lease expense in the neighborhood of about $1.5 million annually.

Oliver Gloe: In terms of the impact to the P&L, I limit my comments to EBITDA. The purchase replaces a lease expense in the neighborhood of about $1.5 million annually. In terms of free cash flow, we don't specifically give guidance on free cash flow. You know, we've disclosed our CapEx need. The acquisition in Freedom was about $17 million. Net of those two impacts, meaning the acquisition of the four fiberglass facilities as well as the acquisition of Freedom Pools, the additional EBITDA will flow through to free cash flow.

Speaker #4: In terms of free cash flow, we don't specifically give guidance on free cash flow. But we've disclosed our CapEx needs. The acquisition in Freedom was about $17 million.

Speaker #4: And net of those two impacts, meaning the acquisition of the four fiberglass facilities, as well as the acquisition of Freedom pools, the additional EBITDA will flow through to free cash flow.

Speaker #5: Great. Thank you.

Shaun Kelley: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Sean.

Oliver Gloe: Thanks, Sean.

Speaker #5: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Operator: This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Sean Gadd: First of all, I wanted to thank everybody for joining us today. Obviously, this is my first call with Latham. And it's been a good time to join the business because we're having a fantastic Q4 and certainly a good 2025. Very excited about what 2026 will bring and beyond. I think we've got lots of opportunity, great product, a great brand, and I think we can build on that to make it even better. With that, obviously, I've met with some of you and in the, at the different shows. I look forward to catching up with you on calls post this call and then out at some conferences in the near future. Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: First of all, I want to just thank everybody for joining us today. Obviously, this is my first call with Latham, and it's been a good time to join the business because we had a fantastic Q4.

Speaker #1: And certainly a good 2025. Very excited about what 2026 will bring and beyond. I think we've got lots of opportunity, great product, and great brand.

Speaker #1: And I think we can build on that to make it even better. With that, obviously, I've met with some of you in the different shows.

Speaker #1: I look forward to catching up with you on calls post this call. And then at some conferences in the near future. So thank you very much.

Operator: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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