Q4 2025 AerSale Corp Earnings Call
Operator: Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the AerSale Corporation Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jacque Carlon, Senior Vice President of Marketing.
Operator: Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the AerSale Corporation Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jacque Carlon, Senior Vice President of Marketing.
Speaker #1: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the AerSale Corp Q4 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Speaker #1: Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.
Speaker #1: To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jackie Carlon, Senior Vice President of Marketing.
Speaker #2: Good afternoon. I'd like to welcome everyone to AerSale's fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings call. Conducting the call today are Nick Finazzo, Chief Executive Officer, and Martin Garmendia, Chief Financial Officer.
Jacque Carlon: Good afternoon. I'd like to welcome everyone to AerSale's Q4 and full year 2025 Earnings Call. Conducting the call today are Nick Sannazzo, Chief Executive Officer, and Martin Garmendia, Chief Financial Officer. Before we discuss this quarter's results, we want to remind you that all statements made on this call that do not relate to matters of historical fact should be considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including statements regarding our current expectations for the business and our financial performance. These statements are neither promises nor guarantees, but involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other important factors that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from any future results.
Jacque Carlon: Good afternoon. I'd like to welcome everyone to AerSale's Q4 and full year 2025 Earnings Call. Conducting the call today are Nick Sannazzo, Chief Executive Officer, and Martin Garmendia, Chief Financial Officer. Before we discuss this quarter's results, we want to remind you that all statements made on this call that do not relate to matters of historical fact should be considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including statements regarding our current expectations for the business and our financial performance. These statements are neither promises nor guarantees, but involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other important factors that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from any future results.
Speaker #2: Before we discuss this quarter's results, we want to remind you that all statements made on this call that do not relate to matters of historical fact should be considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities Laws, including statements regarding our current expectations for the business and our financial performance.
Speaker #2: These statements are neither promises nor guarantees, but involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other important factors that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from any future results.
Jacque Carlon: Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements are discussed in the Risk Factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2025, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, SEC, to be filed on 9 March 2026, and its other filings with the SEC. These filings identify and address other important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events and results to differ materially from those indicated by the forward-looking statements on this call. We'll also refer to non-GAAP measures that we view as important in assessing the performance of our business. A reconciliation of those non-GAAP metrics to the nearest GAAP metric can be found in the earnings presentation material made available on the Investors section of the AerSale website at ir.aersale.com. With that, I'll turn this call over to Nick Sannazzo.
Jacque Carlon: Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements are discussed in the Risk Factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2025, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, SEC, to be filed on 9 March 2026, and its other filings with the SEC. These filings identify and address other important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events and results to differ materially from those indicated by the forward-looking statements on this call. We'll also refer to non-GAAP measures that we view as important in assessing the performance of our business. A reconciliation of those non-GAAP metrics to the nearest GAAP metric can be found in the earnings presentation material made available on the Investors section of the AerSale website at ir.aersale.com. With that, I'll turn this call over to Nick Sannazzo.
Speaker #2: Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements are discussed in the Risk Factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, to be filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) on March 9, 2026, and its other filings, which address other important risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events and results to differ materially from those indicated by the forward-looking statements on this call.
Speaker #2: We'll also refer to non-GAAP measures that we view as important in assessing the performance of our business. A reconciliation of those non-GAAP metrics to the nearest GAAP metric can be found in the earnings presentation materials made available on the Investors section of the AerSale website at ir.aersale.com.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call over to Nicolas Finazzo.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jackie. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'll begin with an overview of our fourth quarter and full-year 2025 results.
Nick Sannazzo: Thank you, Jacque. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. I'll begin with an overview of our Q4 and full year 2025 results, highlight key operational developments, discuss our priorities for 2026 before turning the call over to Martin to review the numbers in greater detail. We finished 2025 on a strong note. Our Q4 adjusted EBITDA increased $2.2 million or 17.1% to $15.2 million, compared to $13 million in the Q4 of 2024. Q4 revenue was $90.9 million, a 4% decrease from the prior year period. Excluding flight equipment sales, which tend to be volatile quarter-over-quarter, Q4 revenue actually increased 9.8%, reflecting continued growth across our component MROs, USM, and leasing.
Nick Finazzo: Thank you, Jacque. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. I'll begin with an overview of our Q4 and full year 2025 results, highlight key operational developments, discuss our priorities for 2026 before turning the call over to Martin to review the numbers in greater detail. We finished 2025 on a strong note. Our Q4 adjusted EBITDA increased $2.2 million or 17.1% to $15.2 million, compared to $13 million in the Q4 of 2024. Q4 revenue was $90.9 million, a 4% decrease from the prior year period. Excluding flight equipment sales, which tend to be volatile quarter-over-quarter, Q4 revenue actually increased 9.8%, reflecting continued growth across our component MROs, USM, and leasing.
Speaker #3: Highlight key operational developments and then discuss our priorities for 2026 before turning the call over to Martin to review the numbers in greater detail.
Speaker #3: We finished 2025 on a strong note. Our fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA increased $2.2 million, or 17.1%, to $15.2 million, compared to $13 million in the fourth quarter of 2024.
Speaker #3: Fourth quarter revenue was $90.9 million, a 4% decrease from the prior year period. Excluding flight equipment sales, which tend to be volatile quarter to quarter, fourth quarter revenue actually increased 9.8%, reflecting continued growth across our component MROs, USM, and leasing.
Speaker #3: Sales of our engineered solutions product AirSafe also increased, as operators began upgrades in advance of a Federal Aviation Administration 2026 compliance deadline for a fuel quantity indication system airworthiness directive related to fuel tank safety systems.
Nick Sannazzo: Sales of our engineered solutions product, AerSafe, also increased as operators began upgrades in advance of a Federal Aviation Administration 2026 compliance deadline for a Fuel Quantity Indicating System airworthiness directive related to fuel tank safety systems. You'll hear me refer to this as the FQIS AD. This overall growth has improved profitability and provides more consistency in our quarter-over-quarter performance. This also led to improvement in our adjusted EBITDA, supported by stronger operating performance and the continued benefits of the efficiency initiatives we implemented in early 2025. For the full year, we generated $335.3 million in total revenue, a decrease of $9.8 million or 2.8% year-over-year, primarily due to fewer flight equipment sales.
Nick Finazzo: Sales of our engineered solutions product, AerSafe, also increased as operators began upgrades in advance of a Federal Aviation Administration 2026 compliance deadline for a Fuel Quantity Indicating System airworthiness directive related to fuel tank safety systems. You'll hear me refer to this as the FQIS AD. This overall growth has improved profitability and provides more consistency in our quarter-over-quarter performance. This also led to improvement in our adjusted EBITDA, supported by stronger operating performance and the continued benefits of the efficiency initiatives we implemented in early 2025. For the full year, we generated $335.3 million in total revenue, a decrease of $9.8 million or 2.8% year-over-year, primarily due to fewer flight equipment sales.
Speaker #3: You'll hear me refer to this as the FQISAD. This overall growth has improved profitability and provides more consistency in our quarter-over-quarter performance. This also led to improvement in our adjusted EBITDA, supported by stronger operating performance and the continued benefits of the efficiency initiatives we implemented in early 2025.
Speaker #3: For the full year, we generated 333,335.3 million in total revenue, a decrease of 9.8 million or 2.8% year over year, primarily due to fewer flight equipment sales.
Speaker #3: Excluding flight equipment sales, full-year revenue increased 18.7%, driven by stronger USM demand, higher average lease rates and asset yields, and robust growth in sales at our component MROs and of AirSafe products.
Nick Sannazzo: Excluding flight equipment sales, full year revenue increased 18.7%. Driven by stronger US end demand, higher average lease rates and asset yields, and robust growth in sales at our component MROs and of AerSafe products. Full year adjusted EBITDA also increased $12.8 million to $46.1 million, up 38.2% year-over-year, reflecting higher volumes, favorable mix, and margin and cost benefits from our efficiency program. During Q4 2025, we acquired $15.4 million of feedstock, bringing full year acquisitions to $99.6 million. While the feedstock environment remains constrained, we have been steadfast in our disciplined acquisition pricing and believe opportunities will improve as OEM production normalizes. Our win rate in the quarter was 4.8% versus 17.2% in Q4 2024.
Nick Finazzo: Excluding flight equipment sales, full year revenue increased 18.7%. Driven by stronger US end demand, higher average lease rates and asset yields, and robust growth in sales at our component MROs and of AerSafe products. Full year adjusted EBITDA also increased $12.8 million to $46.1 million, up 38.2% year-over-year, reflecting higher volumes, favorable mix, and margin and cost benefits from our efficiency program. During Q4 2025, we acquired $15.4 million of feedstock, bringing full year acquisitions to $99.6 million. While the feedstock environment remains constrained, we have been steadfast in our disciplined acquisition pricing and believe opportunities will improve as OEM production normalizes. Our win rate in the quarter was 4.8% versus 17.2% in Q4 2024.
Speaker #3: Full-year adjusted EBITDA also increased $12.8 million to $46.1 million, up 38.2% year over year, reflecting higher volumes, favorable mix, and margin and cost benefits from our efficiency program.
Speaker #3: During the fourth quarter of 2025, we acquired $15.4 million of feedstock, bringing full-year acquisitions to $99.6 million. While the feedstock environment remains constrained, we have been steadfast in our disciplined acquisition pricing and believe opportunities will improve as OEM production normalizes.
Speaker #3: Our win rate in the quarter was 4.8% versus 17.2% in the fourth quarter of 2024. We disclosed this number to provide investors with a measure of how conservative we are when buying feedstock in a environment.
Nick Sannazzo: We disclose this number to provide investors with a measure of how conservative we are when buying feedstock in a hyper-competitive environment. Although a quarter-over-quarter comparison may not fully reflect this discipline. Year-over-year, our win rate was 6% in 2025 versus 8.6% in 2024. Regarding our Boeing 757 passenger-to-freighter converted aircraft, we ended 2025 with 2 on lease and 5 aircraft we converted remaining in inventory. We are actively engaged in discussions with potential customers. Increased demand for cargo and the FAA's recent grounding of the MD-11 freighter fleet continue to make us bullish we'll deploy all our 757 freighters in 2026, with 2 of these aircraft under letters of intent at year-end. During 2025, we made several strategic adjustments across our on-airport MRO facilities.
Nick Finazzo: We disclose this number to provide investors with a measure of how conservative we are when buying feedstock in a hyper-competitive environment. Although a quarter-over-quarter comparison may not fully reflect this discipline. Year-over-year, our win rate was 6% in 2025 versus 8.6% in 2024. Regarding our Boeing 757 passenger-to-freighter converted aircraft, we ended 2025 with 2 on lease and 5 aircraft we converted remaining in inventory. We are actively engaged in discussions with potential customers. Increased demand for cargo and the FAA's recent grounding of the MD-11 freighter fleet continue to make us bullish we'll deploy all our 757 freighters in 2026, with 2 of these aircraft under letters of intent at year-end. During 2025, we made several strategic adjustments across our on-airport MRO facilities.
Speaker #3: Although a quarter-over-quarter comparison may not fully reflect this discipline, year over year, our win rate was 6% in 2025 versus 8.6% in 2024. Regarding our Boeing 757 passenger to freighter converted aircraft, we ended 2025 with two on lease and five aircraft we converted remaining in inventory.
Speaker #3: We're actively engaged in discussions with potential customers. Increased demand for cargo, and the hyper-competitive FAA's recent grounding of the MD-11 freighter fleet, continue to make us bullish we'll deploy all our 757 freighters in 2026, with two of these aircraft under letters of intent at year-end.
Speaker #3: During 2025, we made several strategic adjustments across our on-airport MRO facilities. In Good Year, we transitioned from an expiring contract to new business at higher rates, resulting in improved profitability.
Nick Sannazzo: In Goodyear, we transitioned from an expiring contract to new business at higher rates, resulting in improved profitability. In Roswell, we shifted our focus to storage and end of life fleet activities, largely offsetting lost heavy check margin. Our on-airport MRO expansion project in Millington, Tennessee, is now fully operational and productive, with heavy check work that began in December following the award of a multiyear maintenance agreement with a regional airline, positioning the facility to significantly contribute to profitability in 2026. Regarding our component MRO facility expansion initiatives, we moved into our new 90,000 square foot aerostructures facility in January 2026. With existing customer approvals and more underway, we expect aerostructures volumes to ramp up throughout 2026. Our pneumatic expansion project is also progressing with all construction now complete, and we expect this additional capability will come online by the end of Q1.
Nick Finazzo: In Goodyear, we transitioned from an expiring contract to new business at higher rates, resulting in improved profitability. In Roswell, we shifted our focus to storage and end of life fleet activities, largely offsetting lost heavy check margin. Our on-airport MRO expansion project in Millington, Tennessee, is now fully operational and productive, with heavy check work that began in December following the award of a multiyear maintenance agreement with a regional airline, positioning the facility to significantly contribute to profitability in 2026. Regarding our component MRO facility expansion initiatives, we moved into our new 90,000 square foot aerostructures facility in January 2026. With existing customer approvals and more underway, we expect aerostructures volumes to ramp up throughout 2026. Our pneumatic expansion project is also progressing with all construction now complete, and we expect this additional capability will come online by the end of Q1.
Speaker #3: In Roswell, we shifted our focus to storage and end-of-life fleet activities, largely offsetting lost heavy check margin. Our on-airport MRO expansion project in Millington, Tennessee, is now fully operational and productive, with heavy check work that began in December following the award of a multi-year maintenance agreement with the regional airline.
Speaker #3: Positioning the facility to significantly contribute to profitability in 2026. Regarding our component MRO facility expansion initiatives, we moved into our new 90,000-square-foot aero structures facility in January 2026.
Speaker #3: With existing customer approvals, and more underway, we expect aero structures volumes to ramp up throughout 2026. Our pneumatic expansion project is also progressing, with all construction now complete, and we expect this additional capability will come online by the end of the first quarter.
Speaker #3: As these three expansion initiatives begin to contribute in 2026, we remain confident in their revenue potential. While we previously communicated an incremental annualized opportunity of approximately $50 million, updated assessments indicate that the full capacity potential is likely to exceed that original estimate.
Nick Sannazzo: As these three expansion initiatives begin to contribute in 2026, we remain confident in their revenue potential. While we previously communicated an incremental annualized opportunity of approximately $50 million, updated assessments indicate that the full capacity potential is likely to exceed that original estimate. As we ramp up in 2026, we will provide an update on the progress of these projects as contributions from this additional capacity and capability are realized. We're also proud to announce that our landing gear shop received FAA approval to overhaul Boeing 737 MAX and 787 landing gear, which supplements our existing authority to overhaul gear for 737 Classic and NG series, 757, 767, and the Airbus A320 series of aircraft. This expansion to include MRO for new technology flight equipment allows us to better support our expanding customer base as mid-technology flight equipment is eventually replaced.
Nick Finazzo: As these three expansion initiatives begin to contribute in 2026, we remain confident in their revenue potential. While we previously communicated an incremental annualized opportunity of approximately $50 million, updated assessments indicate that the full capacity potential is likely to exceed that original estimate. As we ramp up in 2026, we will provide an update on the progress of these projects as contributions from this additional capacity and capability are realized. We're also proud to announce that our landing gear shop received FAA approval to overhaul Boeing 737 MAX and 787 landing gear, which supplements our existing authority to overhaul gear for 737 Classic and NG series, 757, 767, and the Airbus A320 series of aircraft. This expansion to include MRO for new technology flight equipment allows us to better support our expanding customer base as mid-technology flight equipment is eventually replaced.
Speaker #3: As we ramp up in 2026, we will provide an update on the progress of these projects as contributions from this additional capacity and capability are realized.
Speaker #3: We're also proud to announce that our landing gear shop received FAA approval to overhaul Boeing 737 MAX and 787 landing gear, which supplements our existing authority to overhaul gear for 737 Classic and NG series 757, 767, and the Airbus A320 series of aircraft.
Speaker #3: This expansion to include MRO for new technology flight equipment allows us to better support our expanding customer base as mid-technology flight equipment is eventually replaced.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead to 2026, we're mitigating earnings volatility by growing the more recurring and predictable parts of our business. These initiatives include filling capacity at all our on-airport MRO facilities, growing USM sales, generating significant additional component MRO revenue with our available expanded capacity and new capabilities, increasing pool, and continued strength in AirSafe revenue as the FAA's November 2026 deadline to comply with the FQISAD comes due.
Nick Sannazzo: Looking ahead to 2026, we're mitigating earnings volatility by growing the more recurring and predictable parts of our business. These initiatives include filling capacity at all our on-airport MRO facilities, growing USM sales, generating significant additional component MRO revenue with our available expanded capacity and new capabilities, increasing the number of assets deployed in our lease pool, and continued strength in AerSafe revenue as the FAA's November 2026 deadline to comply with the FQIS AD comes due. Finally, we remain committed to the success of our revolutionary Enhanced Flight Vision System, AerAware, by marketing this to select interested customers, both commercial and governmental. Concurrently, we are taking steps to educate our US regulators and the agencies responsible for the safety of our air transportation system on how the unique features of AerAware will improve safety and provide economic efficiency to the industry.
Nick Finazzo: Looking ahead to 2026, we're mitigating earnings volatility by growing the more recurring and predictable parts of our business. These initiatives include filling capacity at all our on-airport MRO facilities, growing USM sales, generating significant additional component MRO revenue with our available expanded capacity and new capabilities, increasing the number of assets deployed in our lease pool, and continued strength in AerSafe revenue as the FAA's November 2026 deadline to comply with the FQIS AD comes due. Finally, we remain committed to the success of our revolutionary Enhanced Flight Vision System, AerAware, by marketing this to select interested customers, both commercial and governmental. Concurrently, we are taking steps to educate our US regulators and the agencies responsible for the safety of our air transportation system on how the unique features of AerAware will improve safety and provide economic efficiency to the industry.
Speaker #3: Finally, we remain committed to the success of our revolutionary enhanced flight vision system, AeroWare, by marketing this to select interested customers, both commercial and governmental.
Speaker #3: Concurrently, we are taking steps to educate our US regulators and the agencies responsible for the safety of our air transportation system on how the unique features of AeroWare will improve safety and provide economic efficiency to the industry.
Speaker #3: On the cost side, the enhanced efficiency programs we implemented last year have allowed us to streamline workflow at each facility with a goal to better match facility scheduling with volume while opening available capacity at other facilities to maximize profitability.
Nick Sannazzo: On the cost side, the enhanced efficiency programs we implemented last year have allowed us to streamline workflow at each facility with a goal to better match facility scheduling with volume while opening available capacity at other facilities to maximize profitability. Taken together, we expect 2026 to be another growth year for AerSale on both the top and bottom lines. Our strong balance sheet will support increased USM sales and leasing, thereby providing improving recurring revenue from our asset management segment. Customer expansion, increased capacity and efficiency initiatives have put us in a position with all our MROs to see significant incremental revenue progression quarter-over-quarter. I want to conclude by thanking our employees for their dedication and hard work in meeting our growth of initiatives in 2025, and our investors for their continued support as we work on maturing the business and reducing volatility.
Nick Finazzo: On the cost side, the enhanced efficiency programs we implemented last year have allowed us to streamline workflow at each facility with a goal to better match facility scheduling with volume while opening available capacity at other facilities to maximize profitability. Taken together, we expect 2026 to be another growth year for AerSale on both the top and bottom lines. Our strong balance sheet will support increased USM sales and leasing, thereby providing improving recurring revenue from our asset management segment. Customer expansion, increased capacity and efficiency initiatives have put us in a position with all our MROs to see significant incremental revenue progression quarter-over-quarter. I want to conclude by thanking our employees for their dedication and hard work in meeting our growth of initiatives in 2025, and our investors for their continued support as we work on maturing the business and reducing volatility.
Speaker #3: Taken together, we expect 2026 to be another growth year for AerSale on both the top and bottom lines. Our strong balance sheet will support increased USM sales and leasing, thereby providing improving recurring revenue from our asset management segment.
Speaker #3: Customer expansion, increased capacity, and efficiency initiatives have put us in a position with all our MROs to see significant incremental revenue progression quarter over quarter.
Speaker #3: I want to conclude by thanking our employees for their dedication and hard work in meeting our growth initiatives in 2025 and our investors for their continued support as we work on maturing the business and reducing volatility.
Speaker #3: We look forward to updating you on our progress throughout 2026. With that, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Martin Garmendia.
Nick Sannazzo: We look forward to updating you on our progress throughout 2026. With that, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Martin Garmendia.
Nick Finazzo: We look forward to updating you on our progress throughout 2026. With that, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Martin Garmendia.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Nick. And good afternoon, everyone. I'll walk through some additional details on our fourth quarter and full-year financial results, then touch on cash flow and liquidity, and close with our outlook for 2026.
Martin Garmendia: Thanks, Nick, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll walk through some additional details on our Q4 and full year financial results, then touch on cash flow and liquidity and close with our outlook for 2026. Q4 revenue was $90.9 million, which includes $20.9 million of flight equipment sales consisting of 4 engines. This compares to $94.7 million in the Q4 of last year, which included $31 million of flight equipment sales consisting of 6 engines. As we note each quarter, flight equipment sales can vary meaningfully from period to period. As a result, we believe performance is best assessed over time with a focus on feedstock acquisition, monetization of those investments, and profitability trends. Q4 revenue for asset management declined approximately 11.1% year-over-year to $56.9 million due to fewer flight equipment sales.
Martin Garmendia: Thanks, Nick, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll walk through some additional details on our Q4 and full year financial results, then touch on cash flow and liquidity and close with our outlook for 2026. Q4 revenue was $90.9 million, which includes $20.9 million of flight equipment sales consisting of 4 engines. This compares to $94.7 million in the Q4 of last year, which included $31 million of flight equipment sales consisting of 6 engines. As we note each quarter, flight equipment sales can vary meaningfully from period to period. As a result, we believe performance is best assessed over time with a focus on feedstock acquisition, monetization of those investments, and profitability trends. Q4 revenue for asset management declined approximately 11.1% year-over-year to $56.9 million due to fewer flight equipment sales.
Speaker #2: Fourth quarter revenue was $90.9 million, which includes $20.9 million of flight equipment sales consisting of four engines. This compares to $94.7 million in the fourth quarter of last year, which included $31 million of flight equipment sales consisting of six engines.
Speaker #2: As we note, each quarter, flight equipment sales can vary meaningfully from period to period, as a result, we believe performance is best assessed over time with a focus on feedstock acquisition, monetization of those investments, and profitability trends.
Speaker #2: Fourth quarter revenue for Asset Management declined approximately 11.1% year over year to $56.9 million, due to fewer flight equipment sales. Excluding flight equipment sales, revenue increased 9.1%, driven by continued strength in USM and an expanded lease pool.
Martin Garmendia: Excluding flight equipment sales, revenue increased 9.1%, driven by continued strength in USM and an expanded lease pool. For the full year, asset management revenue was $211.6 million, down 1.8% year-over-year. Excluding flight equipment sales, segment revenue increased 47.3%, supported by strong inventory levels and demand that allowed us to grow our USM and leasing activity. Turning to Tech Ops, Q4 revenue increased 10.7 to $34 million, driven by higher sales in our aerostructures and landing gear MROs as we have been successful in winning new contracts.
Martin Garmendia: Excluding flight equipment sales, revenue increased 9.1%, driven by continued strength in USM and an expanded lease pool. For the full year, asset management revenue was $211.6 million, down 1.8% year-over-year. Excluding flight equipment sales, segment revenue increased 47.3%, supported by strong inventory levels and demand that allowed us to grow our USM and leasing activity. Turning to Tech Ops, Q4 revenue increased 10.7 to $34 million, driven by higher sales in our aerostructures and landing gear MROs as we have been successful in winning new contracts.
Speaker #2: For the full year, asset management revenue was $2,211.6 million, down 1.8% year over year. Excluding flight equipment sales, segment revenue increased 47.3%, supported by strong inventory levels and demand that allowed us to grow our USM and leasing activity.
Speaker #2: Turning to tech ops, fourth quarter revenue increased 10.7% to $34 million, driven by higher sales in our aero structures and landing gear MROs, as we have been successful in winning new contracts.
Speaker #2: A focus on higher-margin opportunities and the efficiency measures taken in early 2025 allowed us to further improve our profitability and set the foundation to grow our on-airport MROs beyond historical levels and with a greater profit profile in 2026 and beyond.
Martin Garmendia: A focus on higher margin opportunities and the efficiency measures taken in early 2025 allowed us to further improve our profitability and set the foundation to grow our on-airport MROs beyond historical levels and with a greater profit profile in 2026 and beyond. Tech Ops was also strengthened by strong demand from our component MROs and continued momentum in Airsafe products as customers prepare for the 2026 compliance deadline. For the full year, Tech Ops revenues declined 4.5% to $123.7 million, primarily due to lower on-airport MRO activity. However, improved mix and efficiency initiatives improved gross margin for the year to 25.6% compared to 16.6% in the prior year period, due to favorable mix and benefits of the efficiency measures taken in early 2025.
Martin Garmendia: A focus on higher margin opportunities and the efficiency measures taken in early 2025 allowed us to further improve our profitability and set the foundation to grow our on-airport MROs beyond historical levels and with a greater profit profile in 2026 and beyond. Tech Ops was also strengthened by strong demand from our component MROs and continued momentum in Airsafe products as customers prepare for the 2026 compliance deadline. For the full year, Tech Ops revenues declined 4.5% to $123.7 million, primarily due to lower on-airport MRO activity. However, improved mix and efficiency initiatives improved gross margin for the year to 25.6% compared to 16.6% in the prior year period, due to favorable mix and benefits of the efficiency measures taken in early 2025.
Speaker #2: Tech Ops was also strengthened by strong demand from our component MROs and continued momentum in AirSafe products, as customers prepare for the 2026 compliance deadline.
Speaker #2: For the full year, tech ops revenue declined 4.5% to $123.7 million, primarily due to lower on-airport MRO activity. However, improved mix and efficiency initiatives improved gross margin for the year to 25.6% compared to 16.6% in the prior year period, due to favorable mix and benefits of the efficiency measures taken in early 2025.
Speaker #2: Selling general and administrative expenses for the year were $90 million, including $4.9 million of non-cash equity-based compensation. Compared to $94.2 million last year, which included $4.3 million of non-cash equity compensation.
Martin Garmendia: Selling general and administrative expenses for the year were $90 million, including $4.9 million of non-cash equity-based compensation, compared to $94.2 million last year, which included $4.3 million of non-cash equity compensation. The decrease was primarily driven by lower payroll-related expenses, which also benefited from the efficiency measures taken in 2025. Income from operations was $15.8 million for the full year of 2025, compared to $9.7 million in the prior year. On an adjusted basis, net income for the year was $15.8 million, compared to adjusted net income of $9.5 million last year. Adjusted diluted earnings per share for the year was $0.33, compared to adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.18 in 2024.
Martin Garmendia: Selling general and administrative expenses for the year were $90 million, including $4.9 million of non-cash equity-based compensation, compared to $94.2 million last year, which included $4.3 million of non-cash equity compensation. The decrease was primarily driven by lower payroll-related expenses, which also benefited from the efficiency measures taken in 2025. Income from operations was $15.8 million for the full year of 2025, compared to $9.7 million in the prior year. On an adjusted basis, net income for the year was $15.8 million, compared to adjusted net income of $9.5 million last year. Adjusted diluted earnings per share for the year was $0.33, compared to adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.18 in 2024.
Speaker #2: The decrease was primarily driven by lower payroll-related expenses and measures taken in 2025. Income from operations was $15.8 million for the full year of 2025, compared to $9.7 million in the prior year.
Speaker #2: On an adjusted basis, net income for the year was $15.8 million, compared to adjusted net income of $9.5 million last year. Adjusted diluted earnings per share for the year was $33 cents, compared to adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.18 in 2024.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA for the year was $46.1 million, compared to $33.4 million in the prior year period, which benefited from a higher-margin product mix as well as improved overall margins and lower expenses.
Martin Garmendia: Adjusted EBITDA for the year was $46.1 million, compared to $33.4 million in the prior year period, which benefited from a higher margin product mix, as well as improved overall margins and lower expenses. Year-to-date cash used in operating activities was $23 million, primarily related to feedstock acquisitions as we continue to make strategic investments to grow the asset management segment. We ended the year with $71.6 million of total liquidity, including $4.4 million in cash and $67.2 million of revolver availability on our $180 million asset-backed revolver, which can be expanded to an additional $200 million. Sorry, to an additional $20 million. This available liquidity and our strong inventory position provide us with the fuel to continue to grow our business into 2026.
Martin Garmendia: Adjusted EBITDA for the year was $46.1 million, compared to $33.4 million in the prior year period, which benefited from a higher margin product mix, as well as improved overall margins and lower expenses. Year-to-date cash used in operating activities was $23 million, primarily related to feedstock acquisitions as we continue to make strategic investments to grow the asset management segment. We ended the year with $71.6 million of total liquidity, including $4.4 million in cash and $67.2 million of revolver availability on our $180 million asset-backed revolver, which can be expanded to an additional $200 million. Sorry, to an additional $20 million. This available liquidity and our strong inventory position provide us with the fuel to continue to grow our business into 2026.
Speaker #2: Year-to-date cash used in million, primarily related to feedstock acquisitions as we continue to make strategic investments to grow the asset management segment. We ended the year with $71.6 million of total liquidity, including $4.4 million in cash and $67.2 our 180 million asset-backed revolver, which can be expanded to an additional $200 million.
Speaker #2: Sorry, to an additional $20 million. This available liquidity and our strong inventory position provide us with the fuel to continue to grow our business into 2026.
Speaker #2: Looking ahead, as we shift our emphasis away from trading and toward expanding the more recurring core elements of our business, we expect both full-year revenue and profitability to increase relative to million of revolver availability on 2025.
Martin Garmendia: Looking ahead, as we shift our emphasis away from trading and toward expanding the more recurring core elements of our business, we expect both full year revenue and profitability to increase relative to 2025. We anticipate steady incremental improvements as new revenue streams ramp up and their efficiency initiatives continue to gain traction. With that, operator, we're ready to take questions.
Martin Garmendia: Looking ahead, as we shift our emphasis away from trading and toward expanding the more recurring core elements of our business, we expect both full year revenue and profitability to increase relative to 2025. We anticipate steady incremental improvements as new revenue streams ramp up and their efficiency initiatives continue to gain traction. With that, operator, we're ready to take questions.
Speaker #2: We anticipate steady, incremental improvements as new revenue streams ramp up and their efficiency initiatives continue to gain traction. With that, operator, we're ready to take questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press *11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press *11 again.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Michael Ciaramelli with Truist. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Michael Ciaramelli with Truist. You may proceed.
Speaker #3: One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Michael Sciarmoli with Truist. You may proceed.
Speaker #4: Hey, evening, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess Nick or Martin, do you have a sort of a goal in mind of kind of how much material feedstock you think you can buy?
Michael Ciaramelli: Hey, evening, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess, Nick or Martin, do you have a sort of a goal in mind of, you know, kind of how much material feedstock you think you can buy? I know you're being pretty conservative, and it's still a tight market out there. Just trying to get a sense of, you know, what do you think you can close. Maybe the other part, out of what you have on hand right now, you know, do you think you can move all of that product this year?
Michael Ciaramelli: Hey, evening, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess, Nick or Martin, do you have a sort of a goal in mind of, you know, kind of how much material feedstock you think you can buy? I know you're being pretty conservative, and it's still a tight market out there. Just trying to get a sense of, you know, what do you think you can close. Maybe the other part, out of what you have on hand right now, you know, do you think you can move all of that product this year?
Speaker #4: I know you're being pretty conservative and it's still a tight market out there. Just trying to get a sense of what do you think you can close and out of, and maybe the other part, out of what you have on hand right now, do you think you can move all of that product this year?
Speaker #2: As far as feedstock, this is Nick speaking. Thanks for the question, Mike. As far as feedstock purchases, we anticipate a lower level of feedstock purchases this year than we did last year.
Nick Sannazzo: As far as feedstock. This is Nick speaking. Thanks, thanks for the question, Mike. As far as feedstock purchases, you know, we anticipate a lower level of feedstock purchases this year than we did last year. Why is that? The market is just hyper-competitive at this point. The pricing that we see... You know, the reason that I mentioned our win rate, not that it's materially different from last year, it's just under 10%, which means that we lose, you know, 9 out of 10 deals that we bid on. Not to mention the hundreds of deals that we don't bid on at all, because we just don't think we would be competitive.
Nick Finazzo: As far as feedstock. This is Nick speaking. Thanks, thanks for the question, Mike. As far as feedstock purchases, you know, we anticipate a lower level of feedstock purchases this year than we did last year. Why is that? The market is just hyper-competitive at this point. The pricing that we see... You know, the reason that I mentioned our win rate, not that it's materially different from last year, it's just under 10%, which means that we lose, you know, 9 out of 10 deals that we bid on. Not to mention the hundreds of deals that we don't bid on at all, because we just don't think we would be competitive.
Speaker #2: And why is that? The market is just hyper-competitive at this point. The pricing that we see—the reason that I mentioned the win rate—not that it's materially different from last year—it's just under 10%, which means that we lose 9 out of 10 deals that we bid on, not to mention the hundreds of deals that we don't bid on at all because we just don't think we would be competitive.
Speaker #2: And because of the extreme competition in the market for, I candidly believe, less informed people who don't understand how difficult it is to make money buying used flight equipment, and then parting it out, and then finding a way to extract value out of it, that we see people buying stuff at prices—and I've said this many quarters in a row—at prices that are well beyond what we believe we can make in total margin, based on what they have to pay for to win the deal.
Nick Sannazzo: Because of the extreme competition in the market for, I candidly believe, less informed people who don't understand how difficult it is to make money buying used flight equipment and then parting it out and then finding a way to extract value out of it, that we see people buying stuff at prices, and I've said this many quarters in a row, at prices that are, you know, well beyond what we believe we can make in total margin, based on what they have to pay for it to win the deal. You know, we will continue to be disciplined on our buy side. Look, I've been doing this for a long time.
Nick Finazzo: Because of the extreme competition in the market for, I candidly believe, less informed people who don't understand how difficult it is to make money buying used flight equipment and then parting it out and then finding a way to extract value out of it, that we see people buying stuff at prices, and I've said this many quarters in a row, at prices that are, you know, well beyond what we believe we can make in total margin, based on what they have to pay for it to win the deal. You know, we will continue to be disciplined on our buy side. Look, I've been doing this for a long time.
Speaker #2: So we will continue to be disciplined on our buy side and look, I've been doing this for a long time. This isn't the first company I've been with or that I've founded that has bought in the aftermarket.
Nick Sannazzo: This isn't the first company I've been with or that I founded that buys it, that has bought in the aftermarket. In my prior experience, lots of money moves into the space. Uneducated investors don't know what they're buying, don't know how to properly monetize it. They spend too much money, and then eventually they go away. We have to remain disciplined because overpaying kills companies.
Nick Finazzo: This isn't the first company I've been with or that I founded that buys it, that has bought in the aftermarket. In my prior experience, lots of money moves into the space. Uneducated investors don't know what they're buying, don't know how to properly monetize it. They spend too much money, and then eventually they go away. We have to remain disciplined because overpaying kills companies.
Speaker #2: And in my prior experience, lots of money moves into the space. Uneducated investors don't know what they're buying, don't know how to properly monetize it.
Speaker #2: They spend too much money, and then eventually they go away. And so we have to remain disciplined because overpaying kills companies. So as far as what do we think we can do this year?
Michael Ciaramelli: Got it.
Michael Ciaramelli: Got it.
Nick Sannazzo: As far as what do we think we could do this year, we think we can do... If last year we did $100 million, we don't think we'll do $100 million this year, but it could happen. As far as monetizing the existing inventory that we have, I may defer a little bit of that to Martin. We have ample inventory to continue to grow our business without buying as much as we did last year. I mean, I don't know if Martin, if you wanna add any more color to that.
Nick Finazzo: As far as what do we think we could do this year, we think we can do... If last year we did $100 million, we don't think we'll do $100 million this year, but it could happen. As far as monetizing the existing inventory that we have, I may defer a little bit of that to Martin. We have ample inventory to continue to grow our business without buying as much as we did last year. I mean, I don't know if Martin, if you wanna add any more color to that.
Speaker #2: We think we can do it. If last year we did $100 million, we don't think we'll do $100 million this year, but it could happen.
Speaker #2: And as far as monetizing the existing inventory that we have, I may defer a little bit of that to Martin, but we have ample inventory to continue to grow our business without buying as much as we did last year.
Speaker #2: I mean, I don't know, Martin, if you want to add any more color to that.
Speaker #5: Yeah, no, absolutely. I was going to say, we're coming into starting 2026 with about 364 million of inventory. And that includes about almost roughly 150 million that's ready to be deployed in the USM channel as well as almost 118 million that's still in whole assets that we can put as USM or continue to grow our leasing portfolio.
Martin Garmendia: Yeah, no, absolutely. I was gonna say, we're coming in to starting 2026 with about $364 million of inventory. That includes about $150 million that's ready to be deployed in the USM channel, as well as almost $118 million that's still in whole assets that we can put as USM or continue to grow our leasing portfolio. On a positive, even as we're being very prudent, as we always have been in deploying capital, we have more than enough to continue our growth trajectories, and that'll increase our liquidity position. When the opportunities are right, we'll continue to deploy capital.
Martin Garmendia: Yeah, no, absolutely. I was gonna say, we're coming in to starting 2026 with about $364 million of inventory. That includes about $150 million that's ready to be deployed in the USM channel, as well as almost $118 million that's still in whole assets that we can put as USM or continue to grow our leasing portfolio. On a positive, even as we're being very prudent, as we always have been in deploying capital, we have more than enough to continue our growth trajectories, and that'll increase our liquidity position. When the opportunities are right, we'll continue to deploy capital.
Speaker #5: So, on a positive, even as we're being very prudent—as we always have been—in deploying capital, we have more than enough to continue our growth trajectories.
Speaker #5: And that'll increase our liquidity position. So when the opportunities are right, we'll continue to deploy capital.
Speaker #4: Okay, okay, got it. That's really helpful. And then, just on that growth trajectory, I think the press release mentioned some of the storage revenues may have been benefiting from GTF.
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay, got it. That's really helpful. Just on that growth trajectory, I think the press release mentioned, you know, some of the storage revenues may have been benefiting from GTF. If I think about kind of GTF revenues and as that normalizes, and then you've got the AerSafe 2026 deadline, which, you know, we kind of always see this dynamic across various end markets and industries, that probably is gonna create a big uptick this year, but then maybe backfilling that. Should we think about, you know, GTF normalization, maybe AerSafe, kinda how you backfill that, maybe some of the new capacity coming online? I guess I'm thinking, you know, into 2027 too, as maybe those two trends normalize a bit with the GTF and AerSafe.
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay, got it. That's really helpful. Just on that growth trajectory, I think the press release mentioned, you know, some of the storage revenues may have been benefiting from GTF. If I think about kind of GTF revenues and as that normalizes, and then you've got the AerSafe 2026 deadline, which, you know, we kind of always see this dynamic across various end markets and industries, that probably is gonna create a big uptick this year, but then maybe backfilling that. Should we think about, you know, GTF normalization, maybe AerSafe, kinda how you backfill that, maybe some of the new capacity coming online? I guess I'm thinking, you know, into 2027 too, as maybe those two trends normalize a bit with the GTF and AerSafe.
Speaker #4: If I think about kind of GTF revenues and is that normalized, and then you've got the AirSafe 26 deadline, which we kind of always see this dynamic across various end markets and industries.
Speaker #4: That probably is going to create a big uptick this year, but then maybe backfilling that, should we think about GTF normalization, maybe air safe kind of how you backfill that, maybe some of the new capacity coming online?
Speaker #4: And I guess I'm thinking into '27 too, as maybe those two trends normalize a bit. Right way to think about it?
Michael Ciaramelli: Is that maybe the right way to think about it?
Michael Ciaramelli: Is that maybe the right way to think about it?
Speaker #2: Well, not 100% sure I got your question, but with regard to the GTF situation, we don't see that normalizing in '26, because we're hearing that before PRAC can get the engines back to the aircraft, that it's going to drag into '27.
Nick Sannazzo: Well, not 100% sure I got your question. With regard to the GTF situation, we don't see that normalizing in 2026 because...
Nick Finazzo: Well, not 100% sure I got your question. With regard to the GTF situation, we don't see that normalizing in 2026 because...
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay
Nick Sannazzo: ... we're hearing that, you know, before Pratt & Whitney can get the engines back to the aircraft, that it's gonna drag into 2027.
Nick Finazzo: ... we're hearing that, you know, before Pratt & Whitney can get the engines back to the aircraft, that it's gonna drag into 2027.
Speaker #2: So the opportunity for us isn't so much in the GTF storage, as it is in returning the aircraft that have been parked now for several years.
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay.
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay.
Nick Sannazzo: The opportunity for us isn't so much in the GTF storage as it is in returning the aircraft that have been parked now for several years and returning those to service. Those aircraft require heavy checks. We have, I don't know how many, 70, 80 airplanes sitting in Goodyear?
Nick Finazzo: The opportunity for us isn't so much in the GTF storage as it is in returning the aircraft that have been parked now for several years and returning those to service. Those aircraft require heavy checks. We have, I don't know how many, 70, 80 airplanes sitting in Goodyear?
Speaker #2: And returning those to service, those aircraft require heavy checks. And we have—I don't know how many—70, 80 airplanes sitting in Goodyear and Roswell, so we have got a lot of GTF-powered airplanes sitting in our facility in Goodyear and Roswell.
Martin Garmendia: Yeah, about that.
Martin Garmendia: Yeah, about that.
Nick Sannazzo: Roswell.
Nick Finazzo: Roswell.
Martin Garmendia: At the upper.
Martin Garmendia: At the upper.
Nick Sannazzo: We have got a lot of-
Nick Finazzo: We have got a lot of-
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay
Nick Sannazzo: GTF-powered airplane sitting in our facility in Goodyear and Roswell. The Goodyear ones are gonna require return to service if they're not parted out, believe it or not.
Nick Finazzo: GTF-powered airplane sitting in our facility in Goodyear and Roswell. The Goodyear ones are gonna require return to service if they're not parted out, believe it or not.
Speaker #2: The Goodyear ones are going to require return to service if they're not parted out, believe it or not. We are seeing the part-out of brand new, relatively brand new, several-year-old A320neos.
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay.
Nick Sannazzo: We are seeing the part out of brand-new, or relatively brand-new, several-year-old A320neo. The opportunity for us is really yet to come. It's not through storing these airplanes and pulling engines off and putting engines on. It's that, it's helping. At this point, because of the volume of it kind of reminds me of the COVID situation, where we had 500 airplanes parked, and although you wouldn't think you make much money doing storage, we are removing engines, putting engines on, putting airplanes into storage, taking airplanes out of storage, and then prepping them for the next lessee. You know, with that number of airplanes in one facility, that really creates a capacity issue, not so much a, you know, a demand issue. The demand is there.
Michael Ciaramelli: Okay.
Nick Finazzo: We are seeing the part out of brand-new, or relatively brand-new, several-year-old A320neo. The opportunity for us is really yet to come. It's not through storing these airplanes and pulling engines off and putting engines on. It's that, it's helping. At this point, because of the volume of it kind of reminds me of the COVID situation, where we had 500 airplanes parked, and although you wouldn't think you make much money doing storage, we are removing engines, putting engines on, putting airplanes into storage, taking airplanes out of storage, and then prepping them for the next lessee. You know, with that number of airplanes in one facility, that really creates a capacity issue, not so much a, you know, a demand issue. The demand is there.
Speaker #2: But the opportunity for us is really yet to come. It's not through storing these airplanes and pulling engines off and putting engines on. It's that.
Speaker #2: It's helping. And at this point, because of the volume of it, it kind of reminds me of the airplanes parked and although you wouldn't think you make much money doing storage, when you're removing engines, putting engines on, putting airplanes into prepping them for the next lessee, that with that number of airplanes, in one facility, that really creates a capacity issue, not so much a demand issue.
Speaker #2: storage, taking airplanes out of storage, and then With regard to it's air safe, actually. With regard to. With regard to air safe, the greatest amount of sales are going to happen this year.
Speaker #2: So the demand is there. We see that that will continue through '26 and '27 as we begin doing return-to-service work on the aircraft that are parked and are getting engines that are coming back from Pratt.
Nick Sannazzo: We see that that will continue through 26 and 27 as we begin doing return to service work on the aircraft that are parked and are getting engines that are coming back from Pratt. Now, the other part of your question was?
Nick Finazzo: We see that that will continue through 26 and 27 as we begin doing return to service work on the aircraft that are parked and are getting engines that are coming back from Pratt. Now, the other part of your question was?
Speaker #2: Now, the other part of your question, the other part of your question was.
[Analyst] (Truist): Airsafe.
[Analyst] (Truist): Airsafe.
Speaker #5: Air safe. Yeah. Yeah.
Nick Sannazzo: Okay.
Nick Finazzo: Okay.
Speaker #4: Okay. Yeah. Just air aware, does that create a big headwind next year as everybody preps for the deadline later this year?
[Analyst] (Truist): Yeah, just AerAware. Does that create a big headwind next year, as everybody preps for the deadline later this year?
[Analyst] (Truist): Yeah, just AerAware. Does that create a big headwind next year, as everybody preps for the deadline later this year?
Nick Sannazzo: It's AirSafe, actually.
Nick Finazzo: It's AirSafe, actually.
[Analyst] (Truist): AirSafe, sorry. Yeah.
[Analyst] (Truist): AirSafe, sorry. Yeah.
Nick Sannazzo: With regard to AerSafe, you know, the greatest amount of sales are gonna happen this year. I mean, we have
Nick Finazzo: With regard to AerSafe, you know, the greatest amount of sales are gonna happen this year. I mean, we have
Speaker #2: I mean, we have a backlog that already exceeds last year—all sales for all of last year—and we're still in the first quarter.
[Analyst] (Truist): Okay.
[Analyst] (Truist): Okay.
Nick Sannazzo: We have a backlog that already exceeds last year, sales for all of last year. We're still in Q1. It doesn't mean that it goes away altogether, but it will be significantly diminished. It's not that we're sitting around waiting to sell these. We have nothing else to sell. We are working on other engineered products and STCs that airlines have asked us about to say, "Hey, can you make this product for us? Can you help us resolve this technical issue?" You know, our engineering group is working on airline demand for engineering products or engineered products that they need to keep their fleet flying because they're not getting, it's not getting properly addressed by the OEMs that are producing those components.
Nick Finazzo: We have a backlog that already exceeds last year, sales for all of last year. We're still in Q1. It doesn't mean that it goes away altogether, but it will be significantly diminished. It's not that we're sitting around waiting to sell these. We have nothing else to sell. We are working on other engineered products and STCs that airlines have asked us about to say, "Hey, can you make this product for us? Can you help us resolve this technical issue?" You know, our engineering group is working on airline demand for engineering products or engineered products that they need to keep their fleet flying because they're not getting, it's not getting properly addressed by the OEMs that are producing those components.
Speaker #2: As we — it doesn't mean that it goes away altogether, but it will be significantly diminished. Now, in other words, we're sitting around waiting to sell these, and then we have nothing else to sell.
Speaker #2: We are working on other engineered products and STCs that airlines have asked us about, to say, 'Hey, can you make this product for us?'
Speaker #2: Can you help us resolve this technical issue?" So we are our engineering group is working on airline demand for engineering products or engineered products that they need to keep their fleet flying because they're not getting it's not getting properly addressed by the OEMs that are producing those components.
Speaker #2: So that is an active business that we are pursuing now, which will help us with our customers. Not to mention that we continue to look for opportunities to deploy our Air Aware product, not just across the 737, but we're talking across multiple other platforms, including the 757 and even the ATR 72.
Nick Sannazzo: you know, that is an active business that we are pursuing now, which will help us with our customers. You know, not to mention that we continue to look for opportunities to deploy our AerAware product, not just across the 737, but we're talking across multiple other platforms, including 757 and even ATR 72.
Nick Finazzo: you know, that is an active business that we are pursuing now, which will help us with our customers. You know, not to mention that we continue to look for opportunities to deploy our AerAware product, not just across the 737, but we're talking across multiple other platforms, including 757 and even ATR 72.
Speaker #4: Got it. Okay. Good stuff, guys. Very helpful. Thank you.
[Analyst] (Truist): Got it. Okay. Good stuff, guys. Very helpful. Thank you.
[Analyst] (Truist): Got it. Okay. Good stuff, guys. Very helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Okay, Mike. Thank you.
Nick Sannazzo: Okay, Mike. Thank you.
Nick Finazzo: Okay, Mike. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Nick Finazzo for any closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Nick Fanoso for any closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Nick Fanoso for any closing remarks.
Speaker #7: Okay, thank you very much. Thanks again. So, as we've explained and mentioned last quarter, even with just a few whole asset trades, no AerAware sales, and no incremental revenue from our facility expansion projects in the fourth quarter, our operating margins have continued to grow.
Nick Sannazzo: Okay, thank you very much. Thanks again. You know, as we'd explained and mentioned the last quarter, even with just a few whole asset trades, no AerAware sales, and no incremental revenue from our facility expansion projects in Q4, our operating margins have continued to grow. I believe this validates our unique, multidimensional, and fully integrated business model. As our businesses continue to develop, will put us in an excellent position to achieve substantial growth in the years ahead. As always, I wanna thank Mike Ciaramelli for his questions, which I believe provides additional insight into our business model and progress to date. I very much appreciate your interest in listening to our call today, and look forward to bringing you up to date during our next earnings call. I wish you all a good evening. Thank you.
Nick Finazzo: Okay, thank you very much. Thanks again. You know, as we'd explained and mentioned the last quarter, even with just a few whole asset trades, no AerAware sales, and no incremental revenue from our facility expansion projects in Q4, our operating margins have continued to grow. I believe this validates our unique, multidimensional, and fully integrated business model. As our businesses continue to develop, will put us in an excellent position to achieve substantial growth in the years ahead. As always, I wanna thank Mike Ciaramelli for his questions, which I believe provides additional insight into our business model and progress to date. I very much appreciate your interest in listening to our call today, and look forward to bringing you up to date during our next earnings call. I wish you all a good evening. Thank you.
Speaker #7: I believe this validates our unique, multi-dimensional, and fully integrated business model. And as our businesses continue to develop, it will put us in an excellent position to achieve substantial growth in the years ahead.
Speaker #7: As always, I want to thank Mike Sirmoli for his questions, which I believe provides additional insight into our business model and progress to date.
Speaker #7: I very much appreciate your interest in listening to our call today, and I look forward to bringing you up to date during our next earnings call.
Speaker #7: I wish you all a good evening. Thank you.
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