Q1 2026 Quanex Building Products Corp Earnings Call

March 6, 2026

Speaker #1: Her commitment, insight, and guidance have been invaluable to our organization. Susan consistently served as a steadfast voice for shareholders during our transformation from a metals company to a pure-play building products company and through three CEO transitions and several acquisitions.

Operator: Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Q1 2026 Quanex Building Products Corporation Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Scott Zuehlke, Senior Vice President, CFO, and Treasurer.

Speaker #1: Her perspective and presence in the boardroom made a meaningful impact, and she will be greatly missed. On behalf of the Board and the entire organization, we wish her all the best in her retirement.

Speaker #1: Turning now to our fiscal first quarter, market conditions remain soft and company performance was in line with our expectations. As is typical given the seasonality of our business, the first quarter is our most challenging from a volume standpoint.

Scott Zuehlke: Thanks for joining the call this morning. On the call with me today is George Wilson, our Chairman, President, and CEO. This conference call will contain forward-looking statements and some discussion of non-GAAP measures. Forward-looking statements and guidance discussed on this call and in our earnings release are based on current expectations. Actual results or events may differ materially from such statements and guidance, and Quanex undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement to reflect new information or events. For a more detailed description of our forward-looking statement disclaimer and a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please see our earnings release issued yesterday and posted to our website. I'll now turn the call over to George for his prepared remarks.

Speaker #1: The holidays, coupled with the onset of winter weather, consistently create headwinds in our Q1, and this year was no exception. From a broader perspective, challenges in the global macroeconomic environment and the markets we serve continue to impact results.

George Wilson: Thanks, Scott. Good morning to everyone on the call. Before beginning my commentary on our Q1 results, I would like to take a moment to recognize and thank Susan Davis for her many years of dedicated service as a board member to Quanex and its shareholders. Her commitment, insight, and guidance have been invaluable to our organization. Susan consistently served as a steadfast voice for shareholders during our transformation from a metals company to a pure-play building products company and through three CEO transitions and several acquisitions. Her perspective and presence in the boardroom made a meaningful impact, and she will be greatly missed. On behalf of the board and the entire organization, we wish her all the best in her retirement. Turning now to our fiscal Q1, market conditions remain soft and company performance was in line with our expectations.

George Wilson: As is typical, given the seasonality of our business, Q1 is our most challenging from a volume standpoint. The holidays, coupled with the onset of winter weather, consistently create headwinds in our Q1, and this year was no exception. From a broader perspective, challenges in the global macroeconomic environment in the markets we serve continued to impact results. The most significant challenge continues to be end consumer confidence. While inflationary pressures, labor costs, and certain raw material costs have started to moderate, energy prices have risen. In addition, heightened geopolitical tensions, particularly in recent days, are contributing to a more cautious consumer environment worldwide. Despite the near-term headwinds, the longer-term underlying fundamentals for the residential housing sector remain constructive. In addition, inflation appears to be stabilizing, and there is an increasing expectation of additional rate cuts from the Federal Reserve this year.

While inflationary pressures, labor costs, and certain raw material costs have started to moderate, energy prices have risen.

In addition, heightened geopolitical tensions, particularly in recent days, are contributing to a more cautious consumer environment worldwide.

Despite the near-term, headwinds the longer term, underlying fundamentals, for the residential, housing sector remain constructive. In addition, inflation appears to be stabilizing and there is an increase in expectation of additional rate cuts from the Federal Reserve this year.

George Wilson: We continue to believe the structural drivers supporting both new construction and the repair and replacement markets remain intact. At this time, we don't anticipate a deeper downturn in the end markets we serve. In Europe, economic data from third-party sources point to early signs of stabilization and gradual recovery across most countries, which we view as an encouraging development as we look ahead. Now turning to our performance in Q1 2026. In the Hardware Solutions segment, our focus is centered on two key priorities, stabilizing operational performance and strengthening our commercial organization, including the finalization of go-to-market strategies across our inter-international markets. As previously disclosed last year, we identified an operational issue at our hardware facility in Monterrey, Mexico, that required some incremental capital to remediate.

We continue to believe the structural drivers, supporting both new construction and the repair and replacement markets, remain intact.

At this time, we don't anticipate a deeper downturn in the end markets we serve.

In Europe, economic data from third-party sources point to early signs of stabilization and gradual recovery across most countries, which we view as an encouraging development. As we look ahead,

Now, turning to our performance in the first quarter of 2026,

In the hardware solution segment. Our focus is centered on 2 key priorities.

Stabilizing operational performance and strengthening our commercial organization, including the finalization of go-to-market strategies across our international markets.

George Wilson: We are pleased to report that our efforts have advanced to the point where we believe the plant is now stable, and we don't expect to provide updates on this matter going forward. Within the Extruded Solutions segment, our focus has been on advancing new product development initiatives, evaluating adjacent market opportunities, and relaunching and repositioning our Schlegel Seals product lines. We are very encouraged by the progress being made across each of these areas as they are central to achieving our profitable growth objectives. These initiatives are expected to strengthen our competitive positioning and expand our addressable market over time. I anticipate being able to share additional details on new product launches and commercialization milestones later in the year. In the Custom Solutions segment, we continue to advance several initiatives designed to support future growth.

As previously disclosed last year, we identified an operational issue at our hardware facility in Monterrey, Mexico, that required some incremental capital to remediate.

We are pleased to report that our efforts have advanced to the point where we believe the plan is now stable, and we don't expect to provide updates on this matter going forward.

Within the Extruded Solutions segment, our focus has been on advancing new product development initiatives, evaluating adjacent market opportunities, and relaunching and repositioning our Schlegel Seals product lines.

We are very encouraged by the progress being made across each of these areas, as they are central to achieving our profitable growth objectives.

These initiatives are expected to strengthen our competitive positioning and expand our addressable Market over time.

I anticipate being able to share additional details on new product launches and commercialization Milestones later in the year.

In the custom solution segment, we continue to advance several initiatives designed to support future growth.

George Wilson: More specifically, in our cabinet components operation, the primary focus has been on driving operational efficiencies to successfully integrate recent market share gains and ensure that we scale effectively. Within our access solutions operations, efforts have centered on optimizing operating methods to enhance process consistency, quality, and on-time delivery. In our mixing and compounding operations, we remain focused on new products and chemistry development. These initiatives are enabling us to expand into adjacent markets that demand highly engineered solutions supported by strong technical expertise and service. Together, these efforts position the Custom Solutions segment to deliver improved performance while building a stronger foundation for sustainable growth. Looking at our corporate functions, our newly created commercial and operational excellence teams are now focused on new market development, the creation of global pricing strategies, logistics and sourcing projects to drive savings, ongoing ERP rationalization, and AI-led process improvements.

Within our Access Solutions operations, efforts have centered on optimizing operating methods to enhance process consistency, quality, and on-time delivery.

And in our mixing and compounding operations, we remain focused on new products and chemistry development. These initiatives are enabling us to expand into adjacent markets, that demand, highly engineered Solutions supported by strong, technical expertise and service.

Together, these efforts position the custom solution segment to deliver improved performance, while building a stronger foundation for sustainable growth.

Looking at our corporate functions, our newly created Commercial and Operational Excellence teams are now focused on new market development, the creation of global pricing strategies, logistics, and sourcing projects to drive savings, and ongoing ERP rationalization.

George Wilson: We believe these efforts will produce the results needed for revenue growth, margin expansion, cash flow generation, and improved return on invested capital. From a capital allocation perspective, we will continue to focus on maintaining a healthy balance sheet through disciplined debt reduction. Looking ahead from a growth standpoint, we will focus on driving organic initiatives while pursuing targeted small bolt-on acquisitions, if available, that complement our existing platforms and capabilities. The outcome of these actions will be a stronger, more flexible balance sheet that is well-positioned to support our long-term growth opportunities and strategic objectives. I'll now turn the call over to Scott, who will discuss our financial results in more detail.

And aled process improvements.

We believe these efforts will produce the results needed for revenue, gross margin expansion, cash flow generation, and improved return on invested capital.

From a capital allocation perspective, we will continue to focus on maintaining a healthy balance sheet through disciplined debt reduction.

And looking ahead from a growth standpoint, we will focus on driving organic initiatives while pursuing targeted, small bolt-on acquisitions, if available, that complement our existing platforms and capabilities. The outcome of these actions will be a stronger, more flexible balance sheet that is well positioned to support our long-term growth opportunities and strategic objectives.

Scott Zuehlke: Thanks, George. On a consolidated basis, we reported net sales of $409.1 million during Q1 2026, which represents an increase of approximately 2.3% compared to $400 million for the same period of 2025. The increase was mainly due to foreign exchange translation and the passthrough of tariffs. We reported a net loss of $4.1 million or $0.09 per diluted share during the three months ended 31 January 2026, compared to a net loss of $14.9 million or $0.32 per diluted share during the three months ended 31 January 2025.

I'll now turn the call over to Scott who will discuss our financial results in more detail.

Thanks George.

On a consolidated basis, we reported net sales of $409.1 million during the first quarter of 2026.

Which represents an increase of approximately 2.3%, compared to 400 million for the same period of 2025. The increase was mainly due to foreign exchange translation and the passthrough of tariffs,

Scott Zuehlke: On an adjusted basis, we reported a net loss of $0.3 million or $0.01 per diluted share during Q1 2026, compared to net income of $9 million or $0.19 per diluted share during Q1 2025. The adjustments being made to EPS are primarily for transaction and advisory fees, amortization of the step-up for purchase price adjustments on inventory, restructuring charges, amortization expense related to intangible assets, and foreign currency impacts. On an adjusted basis, EBITDA for Q1 was $27.4 million, compared to $38.5 million during the same period of last year.

January 31st, 2025.

On an adjusted basis, we reported a net loss of $0.3 million, or $0.01 per diluted share, during the first quarter of 2026. Compared to net income of $9 million, or $0.19 per diluted share, during the first quarter of 2025. The adjustments being made to EPS are primarily for transaction and advisory fees, amortization of the step-up for purchase price adjustments on inventory, restructuring charges, amortization expense related to intangible assets, and foreign currency impacts.

Scott Zuehlke: The decrease in adjusted earnings for Q1 2026 compared to Q1 2025 was mainly due to reduced operating leverage from lower volumes related to ongoing macroeconomic uncertainty, coupled with low consumer confidence and higher but temporary operational costs related to our hardware plant in Monterrey, Mexico. Now for results by operating segment. We generated net sales of $189.1 million in our Hardware Solutions segment for Q1 2026, an increase of 2.4% compared to $184.7 million in Q1 2025. We estimate that volumes were down 3.6%, pricing was up 0.5%, the tariff impact was about 3.2%, and foreign exchange translation was a benefit of about 2.3%.

On an adjusted basis, EVA for the quarter was $27.4 million compared to $38.5 million during the same period of last year.

The decrease in adjusted earnings for the first quarter of 2026 compared to the first quarter of 2025 was mainly due to reduced operating leverage from lower volumes related to ongoing macroeconomic uncertainty, coupled with low consumer confidence and higher, but temporary, operational costs related to our hardware plant in Monterrey, Mexico.

now, for results by operating segments,

We generated net sales of $189.1 million in our Hardware Solutions segment for the first quarter of 2026, an increase of 2.4% compared to $184.7 million in the first quarter of 2025.

Scott Zuehlke: Adjusted EBITDA was $4.5 million in this segment for Q1, compared to $8.2 million in the same period of last year. Mainly due to decreased operating leverage related to lower volume, general inflation, and approximately $3 million of incremental costs related to our hardware plant in Monterrey, Mexico. As George mentioned, we believe this plant is now stable. Our Extruded Solutions segment generated revenue of $139.8 million in Q1, essentially flat compared to $139.6 million in Q1 2025. We estimate that volumes were down 2.6% year-over-year in this segment for the quarter, with pricing up slightly by 0.3% and a positive foreign exchange translation impact of about 2.4%.

We estimate that volumes were down. 3.6% pricing was up, 0.5%. The Tariff impact was about 3.2% and foreign exchange translation was a benefit of about 2.3%.

Adjusted EBITDA was $4.5 million in this segment for the first quarter, compared to $8.2 million in the same period of last year.

mainly due to decreased operating leverage related to lower volume, general inflation, and approximately $3 million of incremental costs related to our hardware plant in Monterrey, Mexico.

As George mentioned, we believe this plant is now stable.

Our Extruded Solutions segment generated revenue of $139.8 million in the first quarter, essentially flat compared to $139.6 million in the first quarter of 2025.

Scott Zuehlke: Adjusted EBITDA declined to $20.9 million in this segment for the Q versus $24 million during the same period of last year, mainly due to decreased operating leverage related to lower volumes and general inflationary pressure. We reported net sales of $89.1 million in our Custom Solutions segment during the Q, which represented growth of 4.8% compared to prior year. We estimate that volumes were up 2.4%. Pricing decreased by 2% in this segment for the Q. Foreign exchange translation, coupled with the passthrough of tariffs, was a benefit of approximately 0.5%. Adjusted EBITDA declined to $4.6 million from $6.3 million in this segment for the Q, mostly due to general inflation and higher SG&A. Moving on to the cash flow and the balance sheet.

We estimate the volumes were down 2.6% year-over-year in this segment for the quarter, with pricing up slightly by 0.3% and a positive foreign exchange translation impact of about 2.4%.

Adjusted ibido declined to 20.9 million in the segment, for the quarter versus 24 million. During the same period of last year. Mainly due to decreased operating leverage related to lower volumes in general inflationary pressure.

We reported net sales of $89.1 million in our Custom Solutions segment during the quarter, which represented growth of 4.8% compared to the prior year.

We estimate the volumes were up 2.4%. Pricing decreased by 2% in this segment for the quarter, and foreign exchange translation, coupled with the pass through of tariffs, was a benefit of approximately 0.5%.

Adjusted EBITDA declined to $4.6 million from $6.3 million in this segment for the quarter, mostly due to general inflation and higher SG&A.

Scott Zuehlke: Cash used by operating activities was $20.2 million for Q1 2026, which compares to $12.5 million for Q1 2025. Free cash flow was negative $31.5 million in Q1 2026, compared to negative $24.1 million in Q1 2025. Keep in mind that Q1 of our fiscal year is usually the low water mark for the year due to the seasonality of our business. On a related note, we have historically been a net borrower in Q1 of our fiscal year, with the addition of Tyman and their longer cash conversion cycle, we now expect to be a net borrower during the first half of each fiscal year, with the majority of our cash flow generated in the second half.

Moving on to the cash flow and the balance sheet.

Cash used by operating activities, was 20.2 Million for the first quarter of 2026, which compares the 12.5 million for the first quarter of 2025.

Free cash flow was negative. -31.5 million in the first quarter of 2026 compared to -24.1 million in the first quarter of 2025,

Keep in mind that the first quarter of our fiscal year is usually the low-water mark for the year due to the seasonality of our business.

Scott Zuehlke: Our liquidity was $331.6 million as of 31 January 2026, consisting of $62.3 million in cash on hand, plus availability under our senior secured revolving credit facility due 2029, less letters of credit outstanding. As of 31 January 2026, our leverage ratio of net debt to last 12 months adjusted EBITDA was 2.8x. We do expect our leverage ratio to increase slightly in Q2. We also believe we will exit 2026 with a net leverage ratio closer to 2.0x as we generate cash and repay debt in the second half. As George mentioned in our earnings release, our long-term view continues to be favorable as the underlying fundamentals for the residential housing market remain positive.

On a related note, we have historically been a net borrower in the first quarter of our fiscal year, but with the addition of time, and their longer cash conversion cycle, we now expect to be a net borrower during the first half of each fiscal year, with the majority of our cash flow generated in the second half.

Our liquidity was 331.6 Million as of January 31st 2026, consisting of 62.3 million. In cash on hand, plus availability, under our senior secured revolving credit facility, due 2029 less letters of credit outstanding

As of January 31, 2026, our leverage ratio of net debt to the last twelve months adjusted EBITDA was 2.8 times.

We do expect our leverage ratio to increase slightly in Q2, but we also believe we will exit 2026 with a net leverage ratio closer to 2.0 times, as we generate cash and repay debt in the second half.

Scott Zuehlke: While we entered fiscal 2026 with a cautious outlook due to the ongoing macroeconomic challenges and remain somewhat cautious in light of the geopolitical events now occurring, we are optimistic that demand for our products will improve as consumer confidence is restored over time. We're monitoring the situation in the Middle East, which could have an impact on customer demand, raw materials pricing, and shipping rates for our international hardware business. As of now, we're comfortable with providing guidance for fiscal 2026. During our last earnings call in December, we mentioned that fiscal 2026 could be somewhat flat compared to fiscal 2025, with puts and takes. The first half of 2026 may be more challenged than the first half of 2025, implying a somewhat improved second half year-over-year.

As George mentioned, in our earnings release, our long-term view continues to be favorable, as the underlying fundamentals for the residential housing market remain positive.

And remain somewhat cautious in light of the geopolitical events. Now occurring,

We are optimistic that demand for our products will improve as consumer confidence is restored over time.

We're monitoring monitoring the situation in the Middle East, which could have an impact on customer, customer demand, raw materials pricing and shipping rates for our International Hardware business but as of now, we're comfortable with providing guidance for fiscal 2026.

Scott Zuehlke: Our current views remain consistent with that message. Overall, on a consolidated basis for fiscal 2026, we estimate that we will generate net sales of $1.84 billion to $1.87 billion, which we expect will yield approximately $240 million to $245 million in adjusted EBITDA. In addition, the following modeling assumptions should be reasonable for the full year 2026. Gross margin of 28% to 28.5%. SG&A of $295 to 300 million, which reflects bonus accrual at target. D&A of $105 to 110 million. Adjusted D&A, excluding intangible amortization, of $65 to 70 million, which should be used to calculate adjusted EPS. Interest expense of $50 million. A tax rate of about 24%. CapEx of $70 to 75 million.

During our last earnings call in December. We mentioned that fiscal 2026 could be somewhat flat compared to fiscal 2025 with puts and takes, but that first half, but that, but that the first half of 2026, may be more challenged than the first half of 2025, implying, a somewhat improved, second half of the year-over-year. Our current views remain consistent with that message. Overall, on a Consolidated basis for fiscal 2026. We estimate that we will generate net sales of 1.84 billion to 1.87 billion, which we expect will yield approximately 240 million to 245 million in adjusted ibida.

In addition, the following modeling assumptions should be reasonable for the full year 2026.

Gross margin of 28% to 28.5%.

Sg&a of $295 to $300 million, which reflects bonus accrual at Target.

DNA of 105 to 110 million.

Adjusted DNA excluding intangible amortization of $65 to $70 million, which should be used to calculate adjusted EPS.

Interest expense of 50 million.

The tax rate of about 24%.

Scott Zuehlke: Free cash flow of approximately $100 million. As always, we will stay focused throughout the year on the things that we can control, with an emphasis on generating cash to continue paying down debt. Please use the following cadence for Q2 2026 versus Q1 2026. On a consolidated basis, we expect revenue to be up 12% to 14% in Q2 2026 compared to Q1 2026. Adjusted EBITDA margin, again, on a consolidated basis, is expected to be up 500 to 550 basis points in Q2 2026 compared to Q1 2026. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

Capex of $70 to $75 million.

And free cash flow of approximately 100 million.

As always, we will stay focused throughout the year on the things that we can control, with an emphasis on generating cash to continue paying down debt.

Please use the following cadence for the second quarter of 2026, versus the first quarter of 2026.

On a Consolidated basis.

We expect Revenue to be up 12 to 14% in the second quarter of 2026, compared to the first quarter of 2026.

Adjusted EBITDA margin, even on a consolidated basis, is expected to be up 500 to 550 basis points in the second quarter of 2026.

Compared to the first quarter of 2026.

Operator, we are now.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Kevin Ganey with Thompson, Davis & Co.. You may proceed.

Thank you. Thank you. As a reminder, question.

Please press *1, 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced to its driver question. Please press *1, 1 again.

1 moment for questions.

And our first question comes from Kevin gay with Thompson Davis, and Company, you may proceed.

Kevin Ganey: Hey, George, Scott. Good morning. It's Kevin over at Adams.

Scott Zuehlke: Yep.

Hey, George Scott. Good morning. It's Kevin

Kevin Ganey: Maybe to start, if you could break out how Extruded Solutions segment did. The margins in that segment were much higher than what we expected. Maybe you can talk about what drove the margin improvement there.

um,

Maybe the start, if you could, um,

Break out how, um, the Extruded Solutions segment did. Um, the margins of the segments were much higher than, uh, what we expected. Maybe you can talk about what drove the margin improvement there.

Scott Zuehlke: Well, I mean, in general, I would say that the Extruded Solutions segment, the products that are included in that segment have historically and are most profitable products. You have things like the IG spacer, you have our vinyl profiles business in the UK, which is called Liniar. Those just have historically been very profitable business for us and continue to be.

George Wilson: Yeah, I think you would see the operating model within that segment too tends to revolve around larger, more levered plants. You know, less sites, tends to be less fixed cost, which drives margin in that product line. Again, I think part of the reasoning for the re-segmenting too is to give our investor base a little more clear look into each of these different segments and what product lines are actually contributing what. You know, we know that this is new, a new perspective for you and others. But this has been very consistent for us throughout our whole period of having these products.

Well, I mean, in general, I would say that the extruded solution segment, the products that are included in that segment have historically and are are, uh, most profitable products. So you have things like the IG spacer. You have our vinyl profiles business in the UK, which is called, linear not to have historically been, uh, very profitable businesses for us and continue to be. Yeah, I think, I think you would see the operating, uh,

Model within that segment, 2 tends to revolve around larger, uh, more levered plants. So, uh, you know, less sites, uh, tends to be less less fixed cost which drives margin, uh, in that product line. Uh, again, uh, I think uh part of the the reasoning for the recycling too is to give uh our investor base, a little more clear. Uh, look into each of these different segments and and what product lines are actually contributing what. So, you know, uh we know that this is new uh, A New Perspective for you and others. Um, but this has been very consistent for us throughout our, our whole period of having these products

Kevin Ganey: Sounds good. Appreciate the color on that. Maybe if you could talk on Custom Solutions segment as well, and maybe what drove the strongest year-over-year revenue growth in that segment.

Sounds good, appreciate the color on that and then maybe you could talk on custom Solutions segment as well. And

George Wilson: Yeah, you know, one of the bright spots, you know, with tariffs and just some of the macroeconomic environment, has been in our the cabinet components and our wood components business. We've been able to secure some new market share, as people have insourced product from overseas, consolidated their facilities and have outsourced that product. And, you know, our team has done a very good job of being able to show the value that we can create for our customer base and providing a wide array of products just in time as they need it, minimize their working capital needs and allow us to do what we do well.

Maybe we drove the strongest year-over-year revenue growth in that.

Yeah, uh, you know, one of the bright spots, uh,

Ups. And just some of the

macroeconomic environment has been in our

George Wilson: You know, that's really drove some revenue growth in what is really been a soft market, but that's been a bright spot for us on revenue. Our focus in that segment now is actually we're kind of in hire mode in some of those plants to be able to make sure that we have the capacity and the ability to satisfy demand once the seasonal uptick does occur. We've been very happy with the performance and what our team's doing there to show our value to our customers.

The cabinet components and our wood components business, uh, We've, uh, been able to secure some new market share, um, as people have insource product from overseas, um, Consolidated, their facilities, and have outsourced that product. And, and, you know, our team has done a very good job of of being able to show the value that we can create for our customer base and providing a wide, uh, wide array of products just in time as they need it. Uh, minimize their working capital needs, and allow us to do what we do well. So, uh, you know, that's really drove, uh, some some Revenue growth in what, uh,

is really been a soft Market but that's been a bright spot for us on Revenue. Um, and our focus in that segment now is is actually we're kind of in higher mode and some of those plants to be able to make sure that we have the capacity and uh the ability to satisfy demand uh once the seasonal uptick does does occur.

But we've been very happy with the performance and what our team's doing there to show our value to our customers.

Kevin Ganey: That sounds good. Maybe, I know recently the Builder Show was done recently. Is there any takeaways that you guys could have from that? What maybe the sentiment was or optimism going into the year?

That sounds good. Um, and then maybe I know you guys.

I know recently the Builder Show was, um,

Done recently. Is there any takeaways that you guys could apart from that? What maybe the sentiment was or

Optimism going into the year.

George Wilson: You know, the show was well attended, which I think everyone would agree on. I think that there's guarded optimism. You know, there's a lot of moving pieces in everything in the world right now. You got now with the geopolitical issues in Iran, and what's going on there, the potential push on inflation. You got the political climate in the US, just a lot of moving pieces. I think what we've heard is that without a fault, everyone believes in the long-term view and the optimism that exists in the housing market, like we mentioned in this earnings call, that, you know, the indicators are there that, you know, housing is in demand, and there's pent-up demand that will be released at some point.

You know.

If the show was well attended, um, which I think everyone, uh, would agree on, I—I think that there's guarded optimism. Um, you know, there's a lot of moving pieces and everything in the world right now. Uh, you've got to now with the geopolitical issues in, in Iran. Um,

And what's going on there—the potential push on inflation. You've got the political climate in the U.S., just a lot of moving pieces. So I think everything, what we've heard is that—

Without a fault, everyone believes in the long-term view and the optimism that exists in the housing market, like we mentioned in this earnings call. That, you know, the

George Wilson: It just I think the feel at the show is when is that going to happen and what needs to make it happen to give the end consumer some confidence, whether it's a relief on some energy pricing, whether it's Fed movement, whether it's, you know, a couple more data points on inflation, or all of the above. Long answer to it, what should have been guarded optimism.

The indicators are there that that, you know, housing isn't demand and it will, there's pen up demand, that will be released at some point. It, it just I think the the feel at the show is when is that going to happen and What needs to make it happen to give some of that the end consumer some confidence, whether it's a it's a relief on some energy pricing, whether it's fed movement, whether it's, you know, a couple more data points.

On inflation, or all of the above. I—I, so, uh, long answer to it. What should have been guarded optimism?

Kevin Ganey: Sounds good, George. Thank you, guys.

Scott Zuehlke: Thanks.

Kevin Ganey: I'll turn it over.

Sounds good, George. Thank you, guys.

I'll turn it over.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Julio Romero with Sidoti & Company. You may proceed.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Julio Romero with Sidonian Company. You may proceed.

Julio Romero: Thanks. Hey, good morning, George and Scott.

Scott Zuehlke: Morning.

Julio Romero: Hey, good morning. Your guidance implies the remaining 9 months of the year is gonna see, you know, flattish sales year-over-year, but we'll see some year-over-year margin expansion about 70 to 80 basis points across the remaining 9 months. Based on that Q2 cadence, you stated earlier, you know, that definitely implies it'll be back half weighted. If you could just talk about, you know, the cadence of that margin expansion between the Q3 and Q4 that's expected. Secondly, maybe just where across the portfolio, you know, would you see that margin lift?

Thanks. Hey, good morning. George and Scott, um, guidance.

Hey, good morning, your guidance implies the rate, the remaining 9 months of the year is going to see you know flattish sales year over year but we'll see some year-over-year. Margin expansion about 70 to 8, 80 basis points across the remaining 9 months and and based on that, that 2 Q Cadence. Um, to give you stated earlier, you know that definitely implies, it'll be back half weighted. If you could just talk about

Scott Zuehlke: Yeah, good question. I think the main driver for the second half 2026 versus the second half 2025 is, if you recall, the issues we had in Monterrey impacted EBITDA by, I think, $13 million in the second half of last year. Well, now that we consider that plant stable, we should not see that impact in the second half of this year. That alone is going to drive most of the margin expansion.

You know, uh, the cadence of that margin expansion between the third and fourth quarters, that— that's expected. And then, secondly, maybe just Square, across the portfolio, you know, would you— would you see that margin lift?

Yeah, good question. And I think the main driver for the—

George Wilson: That's obviously in our Hardware segment.

Second half '26 versus the second half of '25 is, if you recall, the issues we had in Monterey impacted IBA, DAB. I think $13 million in the second half of last year. Well, now that we can consider that plant stable, we should not see that impact in the second half of this year, so that alone is going to drive most of the margin expansion, and that's obviously in our heart.

Hardware segment.

Julio Romero: Yep. Yep. Good, good reminder. Congrats on completing that Monterrey issue. My second question is just on, just trying to better understand how much longer Tyman, Legacy Tyman extends the cash conversion cycle versus Legacy Quanex. Related to that, you know, you mentioned capital allocation remains, debt repurchase remains your key priority there. Just how you're thinking about, you know, debt pay down in the back half. Thank you.

Yep. Yep. Good, good reminder. And congrats on completing that Monterey issue. Um, my second question is just on

Um, just trying to better understand how much longer, time in Legacy time, and extends the cash conversion cycle versus Legacy Quantix. And then, um, related to that, you know, you mentioned capital allocation remains, um,

Uh, debt repurchase remains your key priority there. Just how you're thinking about, you know, debt pay down in the back half.

Scott Zuehlke: Yeah. From a cash conversion standpoint, historically, Quanex was 45 to 60 days cash conversion. Tyman, Legacy Tyman was double that. While we have made some progress in getting Tyman more towards the made to order versus the made to stock, that takes time. There are certain pieces of that business that will never move to a made to order because it is more distribution. I think what you'll see from us really over the next probably 2 to 3 years is a significant improvement in getting that cash conversion cycle for the Legacy Tyman business down, which will obviously impact cash flow positively.

Thank you.

Yeah, so from a cash conversion standpoint, um,

Historically, Quanex was 45 to 60 days. Cash, conversion.

Time and Legacy time, and was double that.

George Wilson: There's obviously multiple projects that we've identified to make that change. You know, I feel very comfortable where we are at in that progress. More to come. You know, I think the softness in the market has allowed us to focus on the things that we need to do integration-wise and that we knew we needed to do. I'm very pleased with where we're at at that point.

Scott Zuehlke: Yeah. As far as the debt pay down, clearly that is our priority, especially given the macro backdrop here. We do feel like there's shareholder value creation if we can get that net leverage ratio down closer to 2 and even below 2 over the next 2 years for sure. That is our focus.

Have made some progress in getting time and more towards the Maid to Order versus the made, the stock that takes time. And there are certain pieces of that business that will never move to a maid to order because this is more distrib distribution. Um, but I think what you'll see from us really over the next, probably, 2 to 3 years is a significant Improvement in getting that cash conversion cycle for the Legacy time of business down, which will obviously impact, uh, cash flow positively. And, and there's obviously multiple projects that we've identified to make that change. And uh, uh, you know, I feel very comfortable where where, where we are at in that progress and, uh, more to come but, uh, you know, I think the softness in the market has allowed us to focus on the things that we need to do integration wise and that we knew we needed to do. And uh, I'm very pleased with where we're at at that point.

Yeah, and then, as far as, uh, the debt paydown, clearly that is our priority, especially given the—

The macro backdrop here, we do feel like there's

Shareholder value creation. If we can get that leverage or net leverage ratio down closer to 2, and even below 2 over the next couple years, for sure. So that is our focus.

Julio Romero: Makes sense. Thanks very much.

George Wilson: Thank you.

Makes sense. Thanks very much.

Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from Steven Ramsey with Thompson Research Group. You may proceed.

Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question. Please press star, 1, 1 on your telephone. Our next question comes from Stephen Ramsey with Thompson research group. You may proceed

Steven Ramsey: Hey, good morning, everyone, thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to look at spacers within the Extruded segment. Solid double-digit growth in the quarter and a good product category for quite some time. A couple of questions there. What were the drivers of growth within the quarter, and do you think spacers is a growth product in FY 2026? Can you talk about the margin profile of that product relative to the segment in 2026?

George Wilson: I'll split my answers into, you know, I think the driver in the growth of all spacer markets, but especially our product lines that Quanex offers, is definitely being driven by the demand and some of it code related on the performance, the thermal performance of windows. As energy costs go up, you're able to justify the replacement of new windows with higher performing thermal windows, whether it's keeping warm air in the northern climates or if it's better keeping the cold air in where we're air conditioning. You know, as we see migration from single pane to double pane windows, double pane to triple pane in some areas, you know, that's driving an increased, you know, volume demand which lends itself well.

Hey, good morning everyone. And thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to look at space. Yeah, I wanted to look at spacers within the extruded segment, uh, solid double digit growth in the quarter, and a good product category for quite some time. A couple of questions there. What were the drivers of growth within the quarter and do you think spacers is a growth product in FY 26? And then, can you talk about the margin profile of that product, relative to the segment in 2026?

So I I'll split my answers into, um, you know, I think the driver in in, in the growth of of all spacer markets, but especially our product lines that quannnic offers is, is definitely being driven by, uh, the demand. And some of it code related on the performance, uh, the thermal performance of windows. So as

George Wilson: As codes and standards change to demand higher performing, thermal performing windows, that falls right in line with the products that we offer at Quanex. We do believe it has the potential to be a growth driver in 2026, and to be honest, further, in further years as that continues to take hold. Consumers are changing. Energy costs are becoming a bigger part of the world, and, you know, these types of products are gonna be demanded more. We feel very good about that as a leading product in our portfolio. In terms of the breakout of profitability within the segment or even getting into any more granularity, we have not and cannot for obvious reasons, provide any breakout there. We just haven't provided that publicly.

As energy costs go up, you, you're able to justify the the replacement of new windows with higher performing thermal windows. Whether it's keeping warm air in in the northern climates, or if it's better, keeping the cold air in on where where, where we are conditioning, you know, as we see uh migration from single pane to double pane windows, double pane to triple pane in some in some uh areas, you know, that's driving an increase, uh, you know, volume demand which, which lends itself. Well, and as codes and standards change to demand higher performing thermal performing windows that falls right in line with the the products that we offer quannnic. So, uh, we do believe it has the potential to be a, a growth driver in 2026. And to be honest further, uh, in further years is that continues to take hold um, consumers are changing. Um, energy costs are becoming a bigger part of the world and and you know, these types of products are

Going to take be demanded more and we feel very good about that as a as a leading product in our portfolio. In terms of the breakout of of a profitability within the segment or even getting into any more granularity. Uh we we have not and and cannot through obviously re reasons profi provide any breakout there. We, we just haven't provided that publicly

Steven Ramsey: Okay, fair enough. Good color. You've talked about bundling being an opportunity for you over time, with the Tyman integration going to market in a tough backdrop. Can you talk about if this is happening in any product sets or segments right now, or do you need a better demand backdrop to really see bundling become an opportunity?

Okay, fair enough and good. Good color, you. You've talked about bundling being an opportunity for you over time, uh, with the time and integration and going to market,

George Wilson: No, it's a great question, and I think we're seeing it. You know, we've started the development of that. It's been slow to take hold for two reasons. One is the macro backdrop. You know, obviously volume helps any sort of bundling or incentive package regardless of what you're doing. The second one is, listen, it's really hard to go to your customers try to offer advantages of bundling when you have a product line that was not performing because of some operational issues. So it's just a core fundamental for us that, you know, I've gotta have my house in order before I can offer those types of incentives as a valuable supplier.

In a tough backdrop, can you talk about if this is happening in any product, set, or segment right now, or do you need a better demand backdrop to really, uh, see bundling become an opportunity?

No, it's—it's a great question, and I think we're seeing it. You know, we've started the development of that. Um,

Some operational issues, and so it's just a core, core fundamental for us. That, you know, I've got to have my house in order before I can offer those types of incentives as a—

George Wilson: I'm not going to, you know, insult my customer base, but try to push incentives when, you know, I need to better improve operational performance. We're at that point. I mean, I feel really good at what we've done to protect our customers in something that was unforeseen. You know, there will be a time and a place in the near future where we can have those conversations and, you know, give our customers opportunity to share in the benefits of what we provide. We weren't there a year ago, and we're just getting to that point now.

A valuable supplier. So I'm I'm not going to you know insult my customer base to try to push incentives when when you know I need to to better uh improve operational, performance and and we're at that point. I mean I I feel really good at what we've done to protect our customers and something that was unforeseen and uh you know there will be a time and a place in the near future where we can have those conversations and and you know give our customers opportunity to share in the benefits of what we provide. Um, we weren't there a year ago, and we're just getting to that point now.

Steven Ramsey: Okay. That's helpful to hear. Last one for me, Cabinet Wood Components being a good story right now, and this was a segment that I pondered would potentially be a strategic value to someone else and maybe not core to Quanex. With the recent success, does this change the potential of this segment staying within the company and being a profit driver in the next couple of years?

Okay, that's helpful to hear, last. Last one for me—cabinet would components be a good story right now? And this was a segment that—

George Wilson: I mean, we're happy with what the segment's doing. We operate under a philosophy that, you know. As a public company, I think everyone's this way. You know, we're going to drive our product lines and our segments to perform the best they can to create as much shareholder value as we can, whether they're in the portfolio. The reality is every segment is, you know, potentially for sale every day. I mean, you know, so you never say never, but we are extremely happy with what that group has done. I think that they're driving value for us, and I'm pleased with their performance. You know, I can't give you any more of a clear answer because again, everything every day is always a negotiation.

I pondered what would potentially be a strategic value, uh, to someone else and maybe not core to Quanex, with the recent success that this, uh, change—the, the potential of this segment, uh, staying within the company, and being a profit driver in the next couple of years.

I mean, we're happy with what the segment's doing. Um, we operate under a philosophy that, you know, and as a public company, I think everyone's this way—you know, we're going to drive our product lines and our segments to perform the best they can, to create as much shareholder value as we can, whether they're in the portfolio. Uh, the reality is, every segment is

You know, potentially for sale every day. I mean, you know, so you never say never but we are extremely happy with what the that that group has done. Um, I think that they're driving value for us, uh, and I'm pleased with their performance, so, um, you know, I would, I can't give you any more of a clear answer because again, everything every day is is always a negotiation.

Steven Ramsey: Sure. Thanks for the color.

Sure, thanks for the color.

Operator: Thank you. I would now like to turn the call back over to George Wilson for any closing remarks.

Thank you. I would now like to turn the call back over to George Wilson for any closing remarks.

George Wilson: Thanks for joining the call today, and we look forward to providing our next update in June. Thank you very much.

Thanks for joining the call today, and we look forward to providing our next update in June. Thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Thank you, this concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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