Q4 2025 Arena Group Holdings Inc Earnings Call

March 16, 2026

Operator 2: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today. Welcome to The Arena Group's Q4 and full year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. I would now like to turn the conference over to Morgan Fitzgerald, Investor Relations, Social Media. Ms. Fitzgerald, you may begin the conference.

Speaker #2: I would now like to turn the conference over to Morgan Fitzgerald, Investor Relations, Social Media. Ms. Fitzgerald, you may begin the conference. Thank you.

Morgan Fitzgerald: Thank you. Hosting the call today are Paul Edmondson, Chief Executive Officer, and Geoffrey Wait, Principal Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to note that some of the comments made during this call may include forward-looking statements. All statements other than statements of historical fact are statements that could be deemed forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements relate to the future events or future performance and include, without limitation, statements concerning the company's business strategy, future revenues, market growth, capital requirements, product introductions, and expansion plans, and the adequacy of the company's funding. The company cautions investors that any forward-looking statements made in this call, or that the company may make orally or in writing from time to time, are based on the beliefs of, assumptions made by, and information currently available to the company.

Speaker #2: Hosting the call today are Paul Edmondson, Chief Executive Officer, and Geoffrey Wait, Principal Financial Officer. Before we begin, I’d like to note that some of the comments made during this call may include forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: All statements other than statements of historical fact are statements that could be deemed forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements relate to future events or future performance and include, without limitation, statements concerning the company's business strategy, future revenues, market growth, capital requirements, product introductions and expansion plans, and the adequacy of the company's funding.

Speaker #2: The company cautions investors that any forward-looking statements made in this call or that the company may make orally or in writing from time to time are based on the beliefs of, assumptions made by, and information currently available to the company.

Morgan Fitzgerald: Such statements are based on assumptions, and the actual outcome will be affected by known and unknown risks, trends, uncertainties, and factors that are beyond the company's control or ability to predict. Accordingly, investors should use caution in relying on forward-looking statements, which are based only on known results and trends at the time they are made to anticipate future results or trends. Certain risks are discussed in the company's filings with the SEC. The company disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise. In addition, reference will be made to the non-GAAP financial measure, adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #2: Such statements are based on assumptions, and the actual outcome will be affected by known and unknown risks, trends, uncertainties, and factors that are beyond the company's control or ability to predict.

Speaker #2: Accordingly, investors should use caution in relying on forward-looking statements, which are based only on known results and trends at the time they are made, to anticipate future results or trends.

Speaker #2: Certain risks are discussed in the company's filings with the SEC. The company disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events, or otherwise.

Speaker #2: In addition, reference will be made to the non-GAAP financial measure, adjusted EBITDA. Information regarding the reconciliation of this non-GAAP measure to the closest GAAP measure can be found in the press release that was issued this afternoon and can also be found on our Investor Relations website at investors.thearenagroup.net.

Morgan Fitzgerald: Information regarding reconciliation of this non-GAAP measure to the closest GAAP measure can be found in the press release that was issued this afternoon and can be also found on our investor relations website at investors.thearenagroup.net. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to CEO Paul Edmondson. Paul, the call is yours.

Speaker #2: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to CEO Paul Edmondson. Paul, the call is yours.

Paul Edmondson: Thank you for joining us today to discuss our results from Q4 and full fiscal year 2025. We're proud to report our 2025 results with $28.6 million of income from continuing operations, and we reduced our debt by $23.5 million, while our cash balance grew nearly $6 million to $10.3 million. Before we get into the details, I wanna highlight the broader industry dynamics that have shaped the digital publishing landscape. The recent search algorithm updates have introduced fluctuations in traffic patterns across the digital media industry, impacting not only The Arena Group, but virtually all major publishers. We view these changes favorably as a catalyst for innovation and growth. We believe our team has responded with agility and determination, implementing robust strategies to optimize our content for the evolving landscape while simultaneously accelerating our efforts to diversify revenue streams.

Speaker #3: Thank you for joining us today to discuss our results from the fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2025. We're proud to report our 2025 results with $28.6 million of income from continuing operations, and we reduced our debt by $23.5 million while our cash balance grew nearly $6 million to $10.3 million.

Speaker #3: Before we get into the details, I want to highlight the broader industry dynamics that have shaped the digital publishing landscape. The recent search algorithm updates have introduced fluctuations in traffic patterns across the digital media industry, impacting not only The Arena Group but virtually all major publishers.

Speaker #3: We review these changes favorably as a catalyst for innovation and growth. We believe our team has responded with agility and determination, implementing robust strategies to optimize our content for the evolving landscape, while simultaneously accelerating our efforts to diversify revenue streams.

Paul Edmondson: We are actively expanding our direct audience engagement, strengthening partnerships, and investing in alternative channels that are less reliant on algorithmically driven traffic. These initiatives are already yielding positive momentum, and we expect them to drive sustainable growth going forward. We are more confident than ever in our ability to outperform the market. Our disciplined operational model, ongoing cost optimization, and strategic investments in technology and in product have positioned us to capitalize on emerging opportunities. We believe our diversified business model not only mitigates risk, but also sets the stage for long-term value creation. As the industry evolves, The Arena Group stands ready to lead, innovate, and deliver exceptional results for our shareholders. Now, Geoffrey Wait, our Principal Financial Officer, will walk you through our financial results from Q4 and the 2025 fiscal year.

Speaker #3: We are actively expanding our direct audience engagement, strengthening partnerships, and investing in alternative channels that are less reliant on algorithmically driven traffic. These initiatives are already yielding positive momentum, and we expect them to drive sustainable growth going forward.

Speaker #3: We are more confident than ever in our ability to outperform the market. Our disciplined operational model, ongoing cost optimization, and strategic investments in technology and product have positioned us to capitalize on emerging opportunities.

Speaker #3: We believe our diversified business model not only mitigates risk, but also sets the stage for long-term value creation. As the industry evolves, The Arena Group stands ready to lead, innovate, and deliver exceptional results for our shareholders.

Speaker #3: Now, Geoff Wait, our Principal Financial Officer, will walk you through our financial results from Q4 and the 2025 fiscal year. Thanks, Paul, and good afternoon, everyone.

Geoffrey Wait: Thanks, Paul, and good afternoon, everyone. Revenue was $28.2 million in Q4 of 2025, compared to $36.2 million in Q4 of 2024. Q4 2025 revenue was impacted by extensive user experience testing impacting ads and the ongoing traffic fluctuations. Our net income this quarter was $5.3 million or 18.8% of revenue, compared to $6.9 million or 19.1% of revenue in the same period a year ago. Adjusted EBITDA was $10.1 million or 35.8% of revenue, virtually unchanged from the EBITDA margin in Q4 of 2024. Our excellent margin retention reflects the efficiency of our entrepreneurial publishing model, variable cost structure, and our ability to drive profit across a variety of traffic scenarios.

Speaker #3: Revenue was $28.2 million in the fourth quarter of 2025 compared to $36.2 million in Q4 of 2024. Q4 2025 revenue was impacted by extensive user experience testing impacting ads, and the ongoing traffic fluctuations.

Speaker #3: Our net income this quarter was $5.3 million, or 18.8% of revenue, compared to $6.9 million, or 19.1% of revenue, in the same period a year ago.

Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA was $10.1 million, or 35.8% of revenue, virtually unchanged from the EBITDA margin in Q4 2024. Our excellent margin retention reflects the efficiency of our entrepreneurial publishing model and variable cost structure, and our ability to drive profit across a variety of traffic scenarios.

Geoffrey Wait: This profit performance enabled us to generate $13.1 million of cash from operating activities and accelerate momentum on our debt reduction initiatives through a $13 million repayment of our term loan made in Q4 2025. Overall, 2025 proved to be transformational in terms of our operations and results. Full year revenue for fiscal 2025 was $134.8 million, compared to $125.9 million in 2024. Non-advertising revenue increased more than $21 million over 2024 as a result of our continued focus on reducing our reliance on external traffic referral sources. Advertising revenue represented just 64% of our total revenue in 2025, compared to 74% in 2024.

Speaker #3: This profit performance enabled us to generate $13.1 million of cash from operating activities and accelerate momentum on our debt reduction initiatives through a $13 million repayment of our term loan made in the fourth quarter of 2025.

Speaker #3: Overall, 2025 proved to be transformational in terms of our operations and results. Full-year revenue for fiscal 2025 was $134.8 million compared to $125.9 million in 2024.

Speaker #3: Non-advertising revenue increased more than $21 million over 2024 as a result of our continued focus on reducing our reliance on external traffic referral sources.

Speaker #3: Advertising revenue represented just 64% of our total revenue in 2025, compared to 74% in 2024. Additionally, income from continuing operations was $28.6 million for the year, up from a loss of $7.7 million in FY 2024, and net income was $124.9 million in 2025, including income from discontinued operations of $96.3 million.

Geoffrey Wait: Additionally, income from continuing operations was $28.6 million for the year, up from a loss of $7.7 million in FY 2024, and net income was $124.9 million in 2025, including income from discontinued operations of $96.3 million. This is compared to a loss of $100.7 million in 2024, including a loss from discontinued operations of $93 million. Adjusted EBITDA improved to $51.5 million or 38.2% of revenue in 2025, compared to $27 million or 21.4% of revenue in 2024. These results reflect the successful execution of our strategic initiatives to diversify revenue and optimize cost. By scaling our entrepreneurial publishing model and emphasizing high margin non-advertising revenue streams, we have fundamentally reshaped our profitability profile.

Speaker #3: This is compared to a loss of $100.7 million in 2024, including a loss from discontinued operations of $93 million. Adjusted EBITDA improved to $51.5 million, or 38.2% of revenue, in 2025, compared to $27 million, or 21.4% of revenue, in 2024.

Speaker #3: These results reflect the successful execution of our strategic initiatives to diversify revenue and optimize cost. By scaling our entrepreneurial publishing model and emphasizing high-margin, non-advertising revenue streams, we have fundamentally reshaped our profitability profile.

Geoffrey Wait: We believe this transformation demonstrates our ability to adapt to industry changes and positions us for continued financial strength and resilience. I'd also like to highlight the continued improvements on our balance sheet. Debt reduction was a key focus throughout 2025, and we repaid $23.5 million in principal between our revolver and term loan, and we also increased our cash balance by $6 million to $10.3 million. Despite the industry fluctuations, we remain confident in our ability to generate positive cash flow in 2026. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Paul to discuss our operations in more detail.

Speaker #3: We believe this transformation demonstrates our ability to adapt to industry changes and positions us for continued financial strength and resilience. I'd also like to highlight the continued improvements on our balance sheet.

Speaker #3: Debt reduction was a key focus throughout 2025, and we repaid $23.5 million in principal between our revolver and term loan. And we also increased our cash balance by $6 million to $10.3 million.

Speaker #3: Despite the industry fluctuations, we remain confident in our ability to generate positive cash flow in 2026. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Paul to discuss our operations in more detail.

Paul Edmondson: Thanks, Jeff. One key detail to note is our continued evolution, not only as a publisher, but in our broader identity. We are no longer just a publishing company. We're a brand, data, and IP company. With the addition of ShopHQ's first-party customer data, combined with the considerable reach of the brands like Parade and TheStreet, we are creating a closed loop ecosystem where we can identify high intent audiences and serve them products directly with our content. We're using data signals from our audiences across our network to inform the types of products we offer on ShopHQ, so it's truly a flywheel to convert our readers to shoppers.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Geoff. One key detail to note is our continued evolution, not only as a publisher, but in our broader identity. We are no longer just a publishing company.

Speaker #3: We're a brand, data, and IP company. With the addition of ShopHQ's first-party customer data, combined with the considerable reach of the brands, like Parade in the Street, we are creating a closed-loop ecosystem where we can identify high-intent audiences and serve them products directly with our content.

Speaker #3: We're using data signals from our audiences across our network to inform the types of products we offer on ShopHQ, so it's truly a flywheel to convert our readers to shoppers.

Paul Edmondson: ShopHQ has been a vital piece of the content to commerce puzzle. Additionally, following the October acquisition of Lindy's Sports, the digital platform was successfully relaunched, contributing to a broader sports ecosystem and immediate gains in high intense sports betting and preview content. Not only do we have intentional content across our various properties, but the launch of Encore has united first party data across all 40+ brands, connecting user behavior directly to commerce outcomes and providing advertisers with high conversion brand safe inventory. Looking forward to 2026, we remain focused on diversifying our revenue, paying down debt, and maintaining a disciplined approach to capital management, including M&A, in order to remain profitable and continue our growth trajectory throughout the year and thereafter. We truly believe the future is bright for The Arena Group and are excited to continue our growth story.

Speaker #3: ShopHQ has been a vital piece of the content-to-commerce puzzle. Additionally, following the October acquisition of Lindy Sports, the digital platform was successfully relaunched, contributing to a broader sports ecosystem and immediate gains in high-intent sports betting and preview content.

Speaker #3: Not only do we have intentional content across our various properties, but the launch of Encore has united first-party data across all 40-plus brands, connecting user behavior directly to commerce outcomes and providing advertisers with high-conversion, brand-safe inventory.

Speaker #3: Looking forward to 2026, we remain focused on diversifying our revenue, paying down debt, and maintaining a disciplined approach to capital management, including M&A. In order to remain profitable and continue our growth trajectory throughout the year and thereafter, we truly believe the future is bright for The Arena Group and are excited to continue our growth story.

Paul Edmondson: With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for Q&A. Thank you.

Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for Q&A. Thank you.

Operator 2: Thank you. With that, we will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For any participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. One moment while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Ryan Meyers with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. With that, we will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For any participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. One moment while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Ryan Meyers with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And with that, we will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue.

Speaker #1: You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For any participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys.

Speaker #1: One moment while we pull for questions. And our first question comes from the line of Ryan Myers with Lake Street Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Ryan Meyers: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First one for me here, and I know it's difficult to predict just given some of the traffic volatility that you've seen, but you know, can you maybe talk about what you've seen so far here in Q1 2026? Then, you know, how you guys are thinking about that through the rest of this year and maybe how we should be thinking about that as well.

Speaker #4: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First one for me here, and I know it's difficult to predict just given some of the traffic volatility that you've seen, but can you maybe talk about what you've seen so far here in the first quarter of '26, and then how you guys are thinking about that through the rest of this year, and maybe how we should be thinking about that as well?

Paul Edmondson: Hey, Ryan, this is Paul. Thanks for the question there. Yeah. Traffic and those various sources of, you know, algorithmic audience has been more volatile. There have been more, what do we call core updates or, however they get announced over online through the various sources. We have seen a real mix. Some of the properties are doing really well. Other ones are seeing some more of the volatility that comes with it. We feel like right now the base level in Q1 is gonna be fairly. We feel like that's sort of our baseline for how we're thinking about the business going forward.

Speaker #3: Hey, Ryan. This is Paul. Thanks for the question there. Yeah, so traffic and those various sources of algorithmic audience have been more volatile. There have been more what we call core updates, or however they get announced online through the various sources.

Speaker #3: We have seen a real mix. Some of the properties are doing really well. Other ones are seeing some more of the volatility that comes with it.

Speaker #3: For we feel like right now, the base level in Q1 is going to be fairly—we feel like that's sort of our baseline for how we're thinking about the business going forward.

Paul Edmondson: I'm not sure if, you know, always hard to predict exactly what's gonna happen and things, but we do really focus on what we control, run a lot of continued tests, focus on the monetization, and really have kept a lean cost structure so we can adapt to pretty much, you know, the environment as it comes.

Speaker #3: And so, I'm not sure—it's always hard to predict exactly what's going to happen with things, but we do really focus on what we control, run a lot of continued tests, focus on the monetization, and really have kept a lean cost structure so we can adapt to pretty much the environment as it comes.

Ryan Meyers: Okay. Got it. That sort of leads me into my next question. You know, obviously nice to see the margins hold up despite with where the revenue is coming in at. You know, how should we think about, you know, where you expect the margins to trend here in 2026 as you kind of invest in some of these other, you know, non-advertising revenue line items? Does that change the rev or the margin structure at all? Just any commentary there on how you're thinking about that in 2026 would be helpful.

Speaker #4: Okay, got it. And then that sort of leads me into my next question. Obviously, it's nice to see the margins hold up despite where the revenue is coming in at, but how should we think about where you expect the margins to trend here in 2026 as you kind of invest in some of these other non-advertising revenue line items?

Speaker #4: Does that change the margin structure at all? Just any commentary there on how you're thinking about that in '26 would be helpful.

Geoffrey Wait: Hi, Ryan, this is Jeff. Thanks for that question. As we think about, you know, moving into 2026 and beyond, as I mentioned in the call, we've kind of reduced our reliance on advertising revenues from 74% down to 64%. Our intention in 2026 is to continue driving that number down, and we'd like to get it below 50%. As we do that, I do expect some favorable impact to our margin. Also, as our ShopHQ business grows, being a commercial business where we provide inventory, that has a little bit of a different margin profile as well. Overall, I expect those two factors to offset a little bit, and we intend to deliver a similar margin profile to what we've seen in 2025.

Speaker #3: Hi, Ryan. This is Geoff. Thanks for that question. So as we think about moving into 2026 and beyond, as I mentioned in the call, we've kind of reduced our reliance on advertising revenues from 74% down to 64%.

Speaker #3: Our intention in 2026 is to continue driving that number down, and we'd like to get it below 50%. As we do that, I do expect some favorable impact to our margin, but also as our Shop HQ business grows—being a commercial business where we provide inventory—that has a little bit of a different margin profile as well.

Speaker #3: So, overall, I expect those two factors to offset a little bit, and we intend to deliver a similar margin profile to what we've seen in 2025.

Ryan Meyers: Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions, guys.

Speaker #4: Okay. Great. Thanks for taking my questions, guys.

Operator 2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Old with Long Meadow Investors. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Old with Long Meadow Investors. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of John Old with Long Meadow Investors. Please proceed with your question.

Jonathan Old: Thanks, gentlemen. Appreciate the call. I'm curious if you're still seeing, you know, maybe an acquisition or two a quarter. Like, does that cadence still hold or the internal dynamics that you're focused on sort of taking priority?

Jon Old: Thanks, gentlemen. Appreciate the call. I'm curious if you're still seeing, you know, maybe an acquisition or two a quarter. Like, does that cadence still hold or the internal dynamics that you're focused on sort of taking priority?

Speaker #5: Thanks, gentlemen. Appreciate the call. I'm curious if you're still seeing maybe an acquisition or two a quarter—does that case still hold, or are the internal dynamics that you're focused on sort of taking priority?

Paul Edmondson: Thanks, John. That's another good question. You know, as we think about capital allocation as we continue into 2026, you know, in 2025 we made a lot of progress on the debt and paying down the debt. In 2026, we wanna focus on accelerating the growth of the company. In order to do that, I do anticipate we'll continue at a 1 to 2 tuck-in media acquisition per quarter cadence as we have in the past, but we're also interested in exploring other opportunities as well that'll especially speed up the changes I've talked about in moving from an advertising revenue only business to an ad revenue supported by other revenue streams business.

Geoffrey Wait: Thanks, John. That's another good question. You know, as we think about capital allocation as we continue into 2026, you know, in 2025 we made a lot of progress on the debt and paying down the debt. In 2026, we wanna focus on accelerating the growth of the company. In order to do that, I do anticipate we'll continue at a 1 to 2 tuck-in media acquisition per quarter cadence as we have in the past, but we're also interested in exploring other opportunities as well that'll especially speed up the changes I've talked about in moving from an advertising revenue only business to an ad revenue supported by other revenue streams business.

Speaker #3: Thanks, John. That's another good question. As we think about capital allocation, as we continue into 2026—in 2025, we made a lot of progress on the debt and paying down the debt.

Speaker #3: In 2026, we want to focus on accelerating the growth of the company. So, in order to do that, I do anticipate we'll continue at a one to two tuck-in media acquisition per quarter cadence, as we have in the past, but we're also interested in exploring other opportunities as well that'll especially speed up the changes I've talked about in moving from an advertising-revenue-only business to an ad revenue supported by other revenue streams business.

Jonathan Old: Okay. I assume you're still under the debt structure. Stock buybacks are sort of on the back burner until you get. Maybe you can actually update us on if, you know, where refinancing might stand.

Jon Old: Okay. I assume you're still under the debt structure. Stock buybacks are sort of on the back burner until you get. Maybe you can actually update us on if, you know, where refinancing might stand.

Speaker #1: Okay. And I assume you're still under the debt structure—stock buybacks are sort of on the back burner until you get—you know, and maybe you can actually update us on where our refinancing might stand.

Paul Edmondson: Yeah, it's a great question, and this all kind of ties together into our just general approach to capital allocation. We did announce our share repurchase program in July.

Geoffrey Wait: Yeah, it's a great question, and this all kind of ties together into our just general approach to capital allocation. We did announce our share repurchase program in July.

Speaker #3: Yeah, it's a great question. And this all kind of ties together into our general approach to capital allocation. So, we did announce our share repurchase program in July, and we have not yet completed any share repurchases.

Geoffrey Wait: We have not yet completed any share repurchases. In advance of completing a debt refinance, we believe the most prudent use of our capital has been to do value-add M&A, as well as to reduce our debt profile, and that's what you saw us do throughout 2025. We do see asset prices in our sector at favorable levels where we believe we can do value-accretive M&A that generates significant long-term returns for the company and for our shareholders. We do wanna maintain some dry powder and balance sheet flexibility to act on those opportunities as they come up in the market. A share repurchase remains an important tool in our toolbox, but I do think there are a few other things that we wanna prioritize first.

Speaker #3: In advance of completing a debt refinance, we've believed the most prudent use of our capital has been to do value-add M&A as well as to reduce our debt profile.

Speaker #3: And that's what you saw us do throughout 2025. We do see asset prices in our sector at favorable levels where we believe we can do value-accretive M&A that generates significant long-term returns for the company and for our shareholders.

Speaker #3: And we do want to maintain some dry powder and balance sheet flexibility to act on those things when those opportunities come up in the market.

Speaker #3: So, a share repurchase remains an important tool in our toolbox, but I do think there are a few other things that we want to prioritize first.

Jonathan Old: Got it. What is your expectation on if you have any on the timing of the refinancing? Or kind of no rush at this point? Yeah.

Jon Old: Got it. What is your expectation on if you have any on the timing of the refinancing? Or kind of no rush at this point? Yeah.

Speaker #1: Got it. And what is your expectation on—if you have any—on the timing of the refinancing? Or is it kind of no rush at this point?

Geoffrey Wait: We continue to, you know, in 2025, we made a great deal of progress solidifying our financial position. We grew earnings, we reduced our leverage. Based on our full year numbers, we're below 2 times. This gives us a pretty good level of confidence that we're refinanceable in the current market. We've had several productive conversations over the last few months, but we are being intentionally disciplined. We don't wanna close the first deal that comes to us. We wanna secure the right deal. Specifically, we're looking for a solution that gives us long-term operational flexibility, and we're focused on quality and fit over speed. I don't have a specific timeline to share right now, but we will continue to provide further updates as we move towards the definitive agreement that aligns with our strategic goals.

Speaker #1: Yeah.

Speaker #3: We continued to, in 2025, make a great deal of progress solidifying our financial position. We

Speaker #1: We grew earnings, we reduced our leverage based on our full year numbers. We're below two times. This gives us a pretty good level of confidence that we're refinancing in the current market. We've had several productive conversations over the last few months, but we are being intentionally disciplined.

Speaker #1: We don't want to close the first deal that comes to us . We want to secure the right deal Specifically , we're looking for a solution that gives us long term operational flexibility , and we're focused on quality and fit over speed .

Jonathan Old: Great. Thanks very much. I appreciate the color. Appreciate it.

Jon Old: Great. Thanks very much. I appreciate the color. Appreciate it.

Operator 2: Thank you. With that, ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Paul Edmondson for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. With that, ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Paul Edmondson for closing remarks.

Paul Edmondson: Thank you. Thank you everybody for joining our call today. We appreciate everybody tuning in, and we'll look forward to giving updates for the full 2026 and to a good strong year. Thank you.

Operator 2: With that, ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation, and you may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.

Operator: With that, ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation, and you may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.

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