Q4 2025 Kura Oncology Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good day, everyone. My name is Abigail, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Kura Oncology's Q4 and FY2025 financial results earnings call.
Operator: Good day, everyone. My name is Abigail, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Kura Oncology's Q4 and FY 2025 Financial Results Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, and if you have joined via the webinar, please use the Raise Hand icon, which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application. To allow everybody the opportunity to participate, we ask that you please limit yourself to 1 question and then re-enter the queue for any follow-ups. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Greg Mann, SVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Affairs of Kura Oncology. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good day, everyone. My name is Abigail, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to the Kura Oncology's Q4 and FY 2025 Financial Results Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, and if you have joined via the webinar, please use the Raise Hand icon, which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application. To allow everybody the opportunity to participate, we ask that you please limit yourself to 1 question and then re-enter the queue for any follow-ups. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Greg Mann, SVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Affairs of Kura Oncology. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, and if you have joined via the webinar, please use the raise hand icon, which can be found at the bottom of your webinar application.
Speaker #1: To allow everybody the opportunity to participate, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question, and then re-enter the queue for any follow-ups.
Speaker #1: At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Greg Mann, SVP of Investor Relations and Corporate Affairs at Kura Oncology. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Abigail. Good morning, and welcome to Kura Oncology's fourth quarter 2025 conference call. Joining the call today are Dr. Troy Wilson, President and Chief Executive Officer; Brian Powl, Chief Commercial Officer; Dr. Mollie Leoni, Chief Medical Officer; and Tom Doyle, Senior Vice President, Finance and Accounting.
Greg Mann: Thank you, Abigail. Good morning and welcome to Kura Oncology's Q4 2025 Conference Call. Joining the call today are Dr. Troy Wilson, President and Chief Executive Officer, Brian Powl, Chief Commercial Officer, Dr. Mollie Leoni, Chief Medical Officer, and Tom Doyle, Senior Vice President of Finance and Accounting. We remind you that today's call will include forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Such statements represent management's judgment as of today, and may involve risks and uncertainties that cause actual results to differ materially from expected results. Please refer to Kura's filings with the SEC, which are available from the SEC or on the Kura Oncology website, for information concerning risk factors that could affect the company. With that, I'll turn the call over to Troy.
Gretchen Mann: Thank you, Abigail. Good morning and welcome to Kura Oncology's Q4 2025 Conference Call. Joining the call today are Dr. Troy Wilson, President and Chief Executive Officer, Brian Powl, Chief Commercial Officer, Dr. Mollie Leoni, Chief Medical Officer, and Tom Doyle, Senior Vice President of Finance and Accounting. We remind you that today's call will include forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Such statements represent management's judgment as of today, and may involve risks and uncertainties that cause actual results to differ materially from expected results. Please refer to Kura's filings with the SEC, which are available from the SEC or on the Kura Oncology website, for information concerning risk factors that could affect the company. With that, I'll turn the call over to Troy.
Speaker #2: We remind you that today's call will include forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Such statements represent management's judgment as of today and may involve risks and uncertainties that cause actual results to differ materially from expected results.
Speaker #2: Please refer to Kura's filings with the SEC, which are available from the SEC or on the Kura Oncology website, for information concerning risk factors that could affect the company.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call over to Troy.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Greg, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was a defining year for Kura, marked by FDA approval of Comzivity and initiation of a successful commercial launch.
Troy Wilson: Thank you, Greg, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was a defining year for Kura, marked by FDA approval of KOMZIFTI and initiation of a successful commercial launch. As we enter 2026, our priorities are clear: execute commercially, move aggressively into frontline AML and combinations, and build long-term leadership in menin inhibition while advancing a data-rich pipeline. KOMZIFTI generated $2.1 million in net product revenue in the final weeks of 2025. Although it's early, the launch is off to a strong start. Feedback from physicians, pharmacists, and payers has been consistent. KOMZIFTI delivers meaningful efficacy with differentiated safety, simplicity, and combinability with concomitant medications. In medically complex AML patients, that matters. We believe leadership in relapsed and refractory NPM1 mutant AML will be determined by preference, not by who enters the market first.
Troy Wilson: Thank you, Greg, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was a defining year for Kura, marked by FDA approval of KOMZIFTI and initiation of a successful commercial launch. As we enter 2026, our priorities are clear: execute commercially, move aggressively into frontline AML and combinations, and build long-term leadership in menin inhibition while advancing a data-rich pipeline. KOMZIFTI generated $2.1 million in net product revenue in the final weeks of 2025. Although it's early, the launch is off to a strong start. Feedback from physicians, pharmacists, and payers has been consistent. KOMZIFTI delivers meaningful efficacy with differentiated safety, simplicity, and combinability with concomitant medications. In medically complex AML patients, that matters. We believe leadership in relapsed and refractory NPM1 mutant AML will be determined by preference, not by who enters the market first.
Speaker #3: As we enter 2026, our priorities are clear: execute commercially, move aggressively into frontline AML and combinations, and build long-term leadership in menin inhibition while advancing a data-rich pipeline.
Speaker #3: Comzivity generated $2.1 million in net product revenue in the final weeks of 2025. Although it's early, the launch is off to a strong start.
Speaker #3: Feedback from physicians, pharmacists, and payers has been consistent. Comzivity delivers meaningful efficacy with differentiated safety, simplicity, and combinability with concomitant medications in medically complex AML patients that matters.
Speaker #3: We believe leadership in relapsed and refractory NPM1 mutant AML will be determined by preference, not by who enters the market first. Importantly, Comzivity is now listed in the FDA's Orange Book with patent protection through July 2044.
Troy Wilson: Importantly, KOMZIFTI is now listed in the FDA's Orange Book with patent protection through July 2044. That runway strengthens the long-term value of the franchise, particularly as we expand into frontline AML and combination settings. Our strategy extends well beyond the initial approval. Enrollment is underway in our pivotal KOMET-017 frontline trials, and 2026 will bring important data in both the frontline and relapsed refractory settings. We're positioning ziftomenib as a foundational combination partner in AML, including with FLT3 inhibitors and standard backbone regimens. Across relapsed refractory and frontline AML, we estimate the total US opportunity at approximately $7 billion. Beyond AML, we're advancing a focused solid tumor strategy. Our ziftomenib combination with imatinib in gastrointestinal stromal tumors, or GIST, is progressing in dose escalation, and our next-generation menin programs are advancing.
Troy Wilson: Importantly, KOMZIFTI is now listed in the FDA's Orange Book with patent protection through July 2044. That runway strengthens the long-term value of the franchise, particularly as we expand into frontline AML and combination settings. Our strategy extends well beyond the initial approval. Enrollment is underway in our pivotal KOMET-017 frontline trials, and 2026 will bring important data in both the frontline and relapsed refractory settings. We're positioning ziftomenib as a foundational combination partner in AML, including with FLT3 inhibitors and standard backbone regimens. Across relapsed refractory and frontline AML, we estimate the total US opportunity at approximately $7 billion. Beyond AML, we're advancing a focused solid tumor strategy. Our ziftomenib combination with imatinib in gastrointestinal stromal tumors, or GIST, is progressing in dose escalation, and our next-generation menin programs are advancing.
Speaker #3: That runway strengthens the long-term value of the franchise, particularly as we expand into frontline AML and combination settings. Our strategy extends well beyond the initial approval.
Speaker #3: Enrollment is underway in our pivotal Comet 017 frontline trials, and 2026 will bring important data, in both the frontline and relapsed refractory settings. We're positioning Ziptomenib as a foundational combination partner in AML, including with FLIP3 inhibitors and standard backbone regimens.
Speaker #3: Across relapsed, refractory, and frontline AML, we estimate the total U.S. opportunity at approximately $7 billion. Beyond AML, we're advancing a focused solid tumor strategy.
Speaker #3: Our Ziftomenib combination with imatinib in gastrointestinal stromal tumors, or GIST, is progressing in dose escalation, and our next-generation menin programs are advancing. Darolefarnib, our farnesyltransferase inhibitor, is designed to address resistance mechanisms across multiple oncogenic pathways.
Troy Wilson: Darlifarnib, our farnesyltransferase inhibitor, is designed to address resistance mechanisms across multiple oncogenic pathways. Its combination flexibility, including with cabozantinib, KRAS inhibitors, and PI3K inhibitors, gives it potential to impact more than 200,000 patients annually in the US. We expect multiple clinical updates this year. In short, we're executing commercially, expanding development of ziftomenib across the AML treatment continuum, and advancing a pipeline with meaningful catalysts in 2026. With that, I'll turn it over to Brian.
Troy Wilson: Darlifarnib, our farnesyltransferase inhibitor, is designed to address resistance mechanisms across multiple oncogenic pathways. Its combination flexibility, including with cabozantinib, KRAS inhibitors, and PI3K inhibitors, gives it potential to impact more than 200,000 patients annually in the US. We expect multiple clinical updates this year. In short, we're executing commercially, expanding development of ziftomenib across the AML treatment continuum, and advancing a pipeline with meaningful catalysts in 2026. With that, I'll turn it over to Brian.
Speaker #3: Its combination flexibility, including with gabazantinib, KRAS inhibitors, and PI3 kinase inhibitors, gives it potential to impact more than 200,000 patients annually in the U.S.
Speaker #3: We expect multiple clinical updates this year. In short, expanding development of Ziptomenib across the AML treatment continuum, and advancing a pipeline with meaningful catalysts in 2026.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn it over to Brian.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Troy. Good morning. Our commercial objectives for Comzivity are straightforward: establish clear differentiation in the Menin inhibitor class, deliver strong quarter-over-quarter growth, and achieve leading-class share in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML.
Brian Powl: Thank you, Troy. Good morning. Our commercial objectives for KOMZIFTI are straightforward. Establish clear differentiation in the menin inhibitor class, deliver strong quarter-over-quarter growth, and achieve leading class share in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML. The early launch is exceeding expectations. I could not be happier with the execution of our world-class team, who have been laser-focused on delivering a strong launch. Prescription trends are strong, and the qualitative feedback has been consistent and encouraging. Physicians, both academic and community-based, consistently cite KOMZIFTI's clinical activity and ease of use. Once-daily dosing and lack of required azole dose adjustments are meaningful advantages in real-world AML practice. Institutional pharmacists firmly echo this. In complex patients on multiple medications, safety and predictability drive confidence. We also hear clearly that the safety profile matters. KOMZIFTI carries a single boxed warning for differentiation syndrome compared to multiple box warnings for a competitor.
Brian Powl: Thank you, Troy. Good morning. Our commercial objectives for KOMZIFTI are straightforward. Establish clear differentiation in the menin inhibitor class, deliver strong quarter-over-quarter growth, and achieve leading class share in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML. The early launch is exceeding expectations. I could not be happier with the execution of our world-class team, who have been laser-focused on delivering a strong launch. Prescription trends are strong, and the qualitative feedback has been consistent and encouraging. Physicians, both academic and community-based, consistently cite KOMZIFTI's clinical activity and ease of use. Once-daily dosing and lack of required azole dose adjustments are meaningful advantages in real-world AML practice. Institutional pharmacists firmly echo this. In complex patients on multiple medications, safety and predictability drive confidence. We also hear clearly that the safety profile matters. KOMZIFTI carries a single boxed warning for differentiation syndrome compared to multiple box warnings for a competitor.
Speaker #2: The early launch is exceeding expectations. I could not be happier with the execution of our world-class team, who have been laser-focused on delivering a strong launch. Prescription trends are strong, and the qualitative feedback has been consistent and encouraging.
Speaker #2: Physicians, both academic and community-based, consistently cite Comzivity’s clinical activity and ease of use. Once-daily dosing and lack of required azole dose adjustments are meaningful advantages in real-world AML practice.
Speaker #2: Institutional pharmacists firmly echo this, and complex patients on multiple medications' safety and predictability drive confidence. We also hear clearly that the safety profile matters.
Speaker #2: Comzivity carries a single-box warning for differentiation syndrome, compared to multiple box warnings for a competitor. That difference is resonating. Importantly, Comzivity was added to the MCCN guidelines as a Category 2A recommendation within a week of Kura's submission.
Brian Powl: That difference is resonating. Importantly, KOMZIFTI was added to the NCCN guidelines as a Category 2A recommendation within a week of Kura's submission. That rapid decision reflects enthusiasm and strong alignment among clinical thought leaders. Operational execution has been strong. KOMZIFTI was shipped within days of approval, and our experienced sales force brings an average of more than 20 years of industry experience and deep hematology expertise. The team was trained and fully deployed, and in partnership with Kyowa Kirin, is targeting more than 4,000 hematology professionals. Our message is simple: NPM1 mutations are now actionable, and KOMZIFTI offers a differentiated profile. Access has been a major strength and highlights a powerful leading indicator early in the launch. We engage payers covering approximately 90% of insured lives prior to approval.
Brian Powl: That difference is resonating. Importantly, KOMZIFTI was added to the NCCN guidelines as a Category 2A recommendation within a week of Kura's submission. That rapid decision reflects enthusiasm and strong alignment among clinical thought leaders. Operational execution has been strong. KOMZIFTI was shipped within days of approval, and our experienced sales force brings an average of more than 20 years of industry experience and deep hematology expertise. The team was trained and fully deployed, and in partnership with Kyowa Kirin, is targeting more than 4,000 hematology professionals. Our message is simple: NPM1 mutations are now actionable, and KOMZIFTI offers a differentiated profile. Access has been a major strength and highlights a powerful leading indicator early in the launch. We engage payers covering approximately 90% of insured lives prior to approval.
Speaker #2: That rapid decision reflects enthusiasm and strong alignment among clinical thought leaders. Operational execution has been strong. Comzivity was shifted within days of approval, and our experienced sales force brings an average of more than 20 years of industry experience and deep hematology expertise.
Speaker #2: The team was trained and fully deployed, and in partnership with Kewa Kieran, is targeting more than 4,000 hematology professionals. Our message is simple: NPM1 mutations are now actionable, and Comzivity offers a differentiated profile.
Speaker #2: Access has been a major strength and highlights a powerful leading indicator early in the launch. We engage payers covering approximately 90% of insured lives prior to approval.
Speaker #2: Within 90 days, approximately 84% of private payers had established coverage, aligned with the label and without additional restrictions. That speed of coverage surpasses both industry benchmarks and our internal expectations.
Brian Powl: Within 90 days, approximately 84% of private payers had established coverage aligned with the label and without additional restrictions. That speed of coverage surpasses both industry benchmarks and our internal expectations. We're also thrilled to report that certain Blue plans are now requiring patients to go on KOMZIFTI before allowing coverage for the other approved menin inhibitor. It's our understanding that their decision to implement this step edit was based on the efficacy, safety, and predictable price per patient. Step editing is uncommon in oncology. We view this as a meaningful, independent validation of KOMZIFTI's profile and competitive advantage as the class evolves. KOMZIFTI is distributed through a focused network of specialty distributors and pharmacies. Through Kura RX Connect, the average time for prescription-to-payer decision is 2 days. Patients are getting rapid access.
Brian Powl: Within 90 days, approximately 84% of private payers had established coverage aligned with the label and without additional restrictions. That speed of coverage surpasses both industry benchmarks and our internal expectations. We're also thrilled to report that certain Blue plans are now requiring patients to go on KOMZIFTI before allowing coverage for the other approved menin inhibitor. It's our understanding that their decision to implement this step edit was based on the efficacy, safety, and predictable price per patient. Step editing is uncommon in oncology. We view this as a meaningful, independent validation of KOMZIFTI's profile and competitive advantage as the class evolves. KOMZIFTI is distributed through a focused network of specialty distributors and pharmacies. Through Kura RX Connect, the average time for prescription-to-payer decision is 2 days. Patients are getting rapid access.
Speaker #2: We're also thrilled to report that certain blueplans are now requiring patients to go on Comzivity before allowing coverage for the other approved Menin inhibitor.
Speaker #2: It's our understanding that their decision to implement this step edit was based on the efficacy, safety, and predictable price per patient. Step editing is uncommon in oncology.
Speaker #2: We view this as a meaningful, independent validation of Comzivity's profile and competitive advantage as the class evolves. Comzivity is distributed through a focused network of specialty distributors and pharmacies.
Speaker #2: Through Kura RxConnect, the average time for prescription-to-payer decision is two days. Patients are getting rapid access. We estimate the initial U.S. market for NPM1-mutated relapsed/refractory AML at $400 million annually.
Brian Powl: We estimate the initial US market for NPM1-mutated relapsed refractory AML at approximately $350 to 400 million annually. This is our starting point. On top of our enthusiasm about our early launch, we strongly believe that long-term leadership across the AML continuum will be determined by breadth, by who can combine effectively with Venclexta, 7+3, and FLT3 inhibitors and take the lead in frontline disease. KOMZIFTI's profile, particularly its safety, combinability, and simplicity, position us to maximize the efficacy benefit across settings and drive class leadership. In the near term, we'll remain focused on quarter-over-quarter growth, net revenue, and new patient starts. Over time, we anticipate providing additional metrics to track progress. I'll now turn it over to Mollie to discuss our pipeline.
Brian Powl: We estimate the initial US market for NPM1-mutated relapsed refractory AML at approximately $350 to 400 million annually. This is our starting point. On top of our enthusiasm about our early launch, we strongly believe that long-term leadership across the AML continuum will be determined by breadth, by who can combine effectively with Venclexta, 7+3, and FLT3 inhibitors and take the lead in frontline disease. KOMZIFTI's profile, particularly its safety, combinability, and simplicity, position us to maximize the efficacy benefit across settings and drive class leadership. In the near term, we'll remain focused on quarter-over-quarter growth, net revenue, and new patient starts. Over time, we anticipate providing additional metrics to track progress. I'll now turn it over to Mollie to discuss our pipeline.
Speaker #2: This is our starting point. On top of our enthusiasm about our early launch, we strongly believe that long-term leadership across the AML continuum will be determined by breadth.
Speaker #2: By who can combine effectively with Veneza 7+3 and FLIP3 inhibitors, and take the lead in frontline disease. Comzivity’s profile, particularly its safety, combinability, and simplicity, position us to maximize the efficacy benefit across settings and drive class leadership.
Speaker #2: In the near term, we'll remain focused on quarter-over-quarter growth, net revenue, and new patient starts. Over time, we anticipate providing additional metrics to track progress.
Speaker #2: I'll now turn it over to Mollie to discuss our pipeline.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Brian. FDA approval and relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML was a major milestone, and it's just the beginning. We are building a durable, expanding franchise backed by the most comprehensive development strategy.
Mollie Leoni: Thank you, Brian. FDA approval in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML was a major milestone, and it's just the beginning. We are building a durable, expanding franchise backed by the most comprehensive development strategy. Our goal is clear: make ziftomenib a foundational therapy across AML. We are executing the most comprehensive development strategy in the category. We expect to deliver multiple updates this year across key programs at major medical meetings, supported by an expanding publication plan. Relapse rates in AML remain high, up to 70% within 3 years. We believe deeper and more durable outcomes require moving effective therapies earlier in treatment. This drives our first-to-front-line strategy. We are rapidly advancing our registrational KOMET-017 program in newly diagnosed AML, which will recruit patients at approximately 200 global sites.
Mollie Leoni: Thank you, Brian. FDA approval in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML was a major milestone, and it's just the beginning. We are building a durable, expanding franchise backed by the most comprehensive development strategy. Our goal is clear: make ziftomenib a foundational therapy across AML. We are executing the most comprehensive development strategy in the category. We expect to deliver multiple updates this year across key programs at major medical meetings, supported by an expanding publication plan. Relapse rates in AML remain high, up to 70% within 3 years. We believe deeper and more durable outcomes require moving effective therapies earlier in treatment. This drives our first-to-front-line strategy. We are rapidly advancing our registrational KOMET-017 program in newly diagnosed AML, which will recruit patients at approximately 200 global sites.
Speaker #3: Our goal is clear: make Ziftomenib a foundational therapy across AML. We are executing the most comprehensive development strategy in the category. We expect to deliver multiple updates this year across key programs at major medical meetings, supported by an expanding publication plan.
Speaker #3: Relapse rates in AML remain high, up to 70% within three years. We believe deeper and more durable outcomes require moving effective therapies earlier in treatment.
Speaker #3: This drives our first-to-frontline strategy. We are rapidly advancing our registrational comedo 17 program in newly diagnosed AML, which will recruit patients at approximately 200 global sites.
Speaker #3: The program includes two independently powered trials: intensive and non-intensive chemotherapies, each designed to support potential U.S. accelerated approval and full approval. Data from the Phase 1 KOMET-007 trial support this strategy.
Mollie Leoni: The program includes two independently powered trials, intensive and non-intensive chemotherapies, each designed to support potential US accelerated approval and full approval. Data from the Phase 1 KOMET-007 trial support this strategy. In newly diagnosed patients treated with 7+3 or Venclexta plus ziftomenib, we observed high CR rates and deep MRD negativity. Importantly, the addition of ziftomenib did not meaningfully delay platelet or neutrophil count recovery in either combination. We expect to present updated intensive chemotherapy data from KOMET-007 in the first half of 2026. In parallel, we are preparing a manuscript detailing ziftomenib in combination with Venclexta in the relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML setting. Data presented last December showed encouraging safety, tolerability, and clinical activity in this population. The combination was generally well-tolerated without additive toxicity and meaningfully improved overall response rate, Composite CRc, and overall survival relative to ziftomenib alone.
Mollie Leoni: The program includes two independently powered trials, intensive and non-intensive chemotherapies, each designed to support potential US accelerated approval and full approval. Data from the Phase 1 KOMET-007 trial support this strategy. In newly diagnosed patients treated with 7+3 or Venclexta plus ziftomenib, we observed high CR rates and deep MRD negativity. Importantly, the addition of ziftomenib did not meaningfully delay platelet or neutrophil count recovery in either combination. We expect to present updated intensive chemotherapy data from KOMET-007 in the first half of 2026. In parallel, we are preparing a manuscript detailing ziftomenib in combination with Venclexta in the relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML setting. Data presented last December showed encouraging safety, tolerability, and clinical activity in this population. The combination was generally well-tolerated without additive toxicity and meaningfully improved overall response rate, Composite CRc, and overall survival relative to ziftomenib alone.
Speaker #3: In newly diagnosed patients treated with 7+3 or Veneza plus Ziptomenib, we observed high CR rates and deep MRD negativity. Importantly, the addition of Ziptomenib did not meaningfully delay platelet or neutrophil count recovery in either combination.
Speaker #3: We expect to present updated intensive chemotherapy data from KOMET-007 in the first half of 2026. In parallel, we are preparing a manuscript detailing ziftomenib in combination with venetoclax in the relapsed/refractory NPM1-mutant AML setting.
Speaker #3: Data presented last December showed encouraging safety, tolerability, and clinical activity in this population. The combination was generally well tolerated without additive toxicity, and meaningfully improved overall response rate.
Speaker #3: Composite CR rate and overall survival relative to Ziftomenib alone. We view this as an important component of our strategy, and we believe it has the potential to significantly improve outcomes in patients with relapsed refractory NPM1-mutant AML.
Mollie Leoni: We view this as an important component of our strategy, and we believe it has the potential to significantly improve outcomes in patients with relapse refractory NPM1 mutant AML. FLT3 co-mutations present another significant opportunity and one we are well ahead of competitors. We are evaluating ziftomenib in combination with gilteritinib in the relapse refractory setting and with quizartinib in the front-line setting. If we can demonstrate the ability to combine ziftomenib safely with FLT3 inhibitors, we believe that will be a key differentiator. Outside AML, KOMET-015 is evaluating ziftomenib and Avapritinib in patients with advanced GIST. Dose escalation continues without dose-limiting toxicities in a broad range of doses. We remain very encouraged and plan to provide an update when appropriate. Turning to darlifarnib, we are advancing this FTI in combinations to address resistance biology across solid tumors.
Mollie Leoni: We view this as an important component of our strategy, and we believe it has the potential to significantly improve outcomes in patients with relapse refractory NPM1 mutant AML. FLT3 co-mutations present another significant opportunity and one we are well ahead of competitors. We are evaluating ziftomenib in combination with gilteritinib in the relapse refractory setting and with quizartinib in the front-line setting. If we can demonstrate the ability to combine ziftomenib safely with FLT3 inhibitors, we believe that will be a key differentiator. Outside AML, KOMET-015 is evaluating ziftomenib and Avapritinib in patients with advanced GIST. Dose escalation continues without dose-limiting toxicities in a broad range of doses. We remain very encouraged and plan to provide an update when appropriate. Turning to darlifarnib, we are advancing this FTI in combinations to address resistance biology across solid tumors.
Speaker #3: FLIP3 co-mutations present another significant opportunity and one we are well ahead of competitors. We are evaluating Ziptomenib in combination with Gilteritinib in the relapsed refractory setting and with Quizartinib in the frontline setting.
Speaker #3: If we can demonstrate the ability to combine ziftomenib safely with FLT3 inhibitors, we believe that will be a key differentiator. Outside AML, KOMET-015 is evaluating ziftomenib in patients with advanced GIST.
Speaker #3: Dose escalation continues without dose-limiting toxicities in a broad range of doses. We remain very encouraged and plan to provide an update when appropriate. Turning to Darla Farnab, we are advancing this FTI in combinations to address resistance biology across solid tumors.
Speaker #3: We announced today the initiation of the Phase 1B dose expansion of FIT001 with cabozantinib in advanced renal cell carcinoma. The Phase 1B portion comprises a randomization into three arms in line with Project Optimus.
Mollie Leoni: We announced today the initiation of the phase 1B dose expansion of FIT-001 with cabozantinib in advanced renal cell carcinoma. The phase 1B portion comprises a randomization into three arms in line with Project Optimus, including one cabozantinib monotherapy arm. This third arm provides a control benchmark and enables us to evaluate the combination in patients who are not responding to or just beginning to fail cabozantinib therapy. Phase 1A dose escalation data from FIT-001 showed encouraging safety and tolerability as well as antitumor activity, including in patients previously treated with cabozantinib. Updated data will be presented in the second half of this year. We also plan to present preliminary data from our phase 1A study evaluating darlifarnib with Adagrasib in patients with KRAS G12C mutated lung, colorectal, and pancreatic cancers in the first half of 2026.
Mollie Leoni: We announced today the initiation of the phase 1B dose expansion of FIT-001 with cabozantinib in advanced renal cell carcinoma. The phase 1B portion comprises a randomization into three arms in line with Project Optimus, including one cabozantinib monotherapy arm. This third arm provides a control benchmark and enables us to evaluate the combination in patients who are not responding to or just beginning to fail cabozantinib therapy. Phase 1A dose escalation data from FIT-001 showed encouraging safety and tolerability as well as antitumor activity, including in patients previously treated with cabozantinib. Updated data will be presented in the second half of this year. We also plan to present preliminary data from our phase 1A study evaluating darlifarnib with Adagrasib in patients with KRAS G12C mutated lung, colorectal, and pancreatic cancers in the first half of 2026.
Speaker #3: Including one cabozantinib monotherapy arm. This third arm provides a control benchmark and enables us to evaluate the combination in patients who are not responding to, or just beginning to fail, cabozantinib therapy.
Speaker #3: Phase 1A dose escalation data from FIT001 showed encouraging safety and tolerability, as well as anti-tumor activity. Including in patients previously treated with cabozantinib. Updated data will be presented in the second half of this year.
Speaker #3: We also plan to present preliminary data from our Phase 1a study evaluating Darla Farnab with adagrasib in patients with KRAS G12C-mutated lung, colorectal, and pancreatic cancers in the first half of 2026.
Speaker #3: Finally, our menen inhibitor programs continue to advance, including preclinical work in solid tumors, as well as diabetes and cardiometabolic indications. In summary, we are working to move Ziptomenib earlier in the AML treatment paradigm.
Mollie Leoni: Finally, our menin inhibitor programs continue to advance, including pre-clinical work in solid tumors as well as diabetes and cardiometabolic indications. In summary, we are working to move ziftomenib earlier in the AML treatment paradigm, expanding our combination strategies and advancing a second growth pillar with the FTI platform with multiple catalysts this year. With that, I'll turn it over to Tom for a financial update.
Mollie Leoni: Finally, our menin inhibitor programs continue to advance, including pre-clinical work in solid tumors as well as diabetes and cardiometabolic indications. In summary, we are working to move ziftomenib earlier in the AML treatment paradigm, expanding our combination strategies and advancing a second growth pillar with the FTI platform with multiple catalysts this year. With that, I'll turn it over to Tom for a financial update.
Speaker #3: Expanding our combination strategies and advancing a second growth pillar with the FTI platform, with multiple catalysts this year. And with that, I'll turn it over to Tom for our financial update.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Mollie. I'm happy to provide a brief overview of our financial results for the fourth quarter of 2025. As we pre-announced in January, our net product revenue from Comzivity sales was $2.1 million, compared to none for the fourth quarter of 2024.
Tom Doyle: Thank you, Molly. I'm happy to provide a brief overview of our financial results for Q4 2025. As we pre-announced in January, our net product revenue from KOMZIFTI sales was $2.1 million compared to 0 for Q4 2024. The first commercial sale triggered a $135 million milestone payment under our collaboration agreement with Kyowa Kirin. Collaboration revenue from our Kyowa Kirin partnership was $15.2 million compared to $53.9 million for the same period in 2024. Research and development expenses were $64.4 million compared to $52.3 million for Q4 2024. The increase was driven by ziftomenib combination trials, including the start of enrollment in our KOMET-017 trial in 2025.
Tom Doyle: Thank you, Molly. I'm happy to provide a brief overview of our financial results for Q4 2025. As we pre-announced in January, our net product revenue from KOMZIFTI sales was $2.1 million compared to 0 for Q4 2024. The first commercial sale triggered a $135 million milestone payment under our collaboration agreement with Kyowa Kirin. Collaboration revenue from our Kyowa Kirin partnership was $15.2 million compared to $53.9 million for the same period in 2024. Research and development expenses were $64.4 million compared to $52.3 million for Q4 2024. The increase was driven by ziftomenib combination trials, including the start of enrollment in our KOMET-017 trial in 2025.
Speaker #2: The first commercial sale triggered a $135 million milestone payment under our collaboration agreement with Keola Karen. Collaboration revenue from our Keola Karen partnership was $15.2 million, compared to $53.9 million for the same period in 2024.
Speaker #2: Research and development expenses were $64.4 million, compared to $52.3 million for the fourth quarter of 2024. The increase was driven by Ziftomenib combination trials, including the start of enrollment in our KOMET-007 trial in 2025.
Speaker #2: Sales, general and administrative expenses were $39.1 million, compared to $24.1 million for the fourth quarter of 2024. The increase was driven by the commercial launch of Comzivity.
Tom Doyle: Sales, general and administrative expenses were $39.1 million compared to $24.1 million for Q4 2024. The increase was driven by the commercial launch of KOMZIFTI. Net loss for Q4 2025 was $81 million compared to a net loss of $19.2 million for Q4 2024. This includes non-cash share-based compensation expense of $11.3 million compared to $8.6 million for the same period in 2024. As of 31 December 2025, Kura had cash equivalents and short-term investments of $667.2 million compared to $727.4 million as of 31 December 2024.
Tom Doyle: Sales, general and administrative expenses were $39.1 million compared to $24.1 million for Q4 2024. The increase was driven by the commercial launch of KOMZIFTI. Net loss for Q4 2025 was $81 million compared to a net loss of $19.2 million for Q4 2024. This includes non-cash share-based compensation expense of $11.3 million compared to $8.6 million for the same period in 2024. As of 31 December 2025, Kura had cash equivalents and short-term investments of $667.2 million compared to $727.4 million as of 31 December 2024.
Speaker #2: Net loss for the fourth quarter of 2025 was $81 million, compared to a net loss of $19.2 million for the fourth quarter of 2024.
Speaker #2: This includes non-cash share-based compensation expense of $11.3 million, compared to $8.6 million for the same period in 2024. As of December 31, 2025, Kura had cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments of $667.2 million, compared to $727.4 million as of December 31, 2024.
Speaker #2: Our $667.2 million balance at the end of 2025 reflects fourth quarter 2025 receipts of $195 million for the first commercial sale of Comzivity and Comedo 17 enrollment milestone payments.
Tom Doyle: Our $667.2 million balance at the end of 2025 reflects Q4 2025 receipts of $195 million for the first commercial sale of KOMZIFTI and KOMET-017 enrollment milestone payments. Kura is providing guidance for collaboration revenue, which reflects non-cash based accounting recognition of performance obligations under our collaboration agreement with Kyowa Kirin. We expect this to be $45 to $55 million in 2026, $90 to $110 million in 2027, and $90 to $110 million in 2028.
Tom Doyle: Our $667.2 million balance at the end of 2025 reflects Q4 2025 receipts of $195 million for the first commercial sale of KOMZIFTI and KOMET-017 enrollment milestone payments. Kura is providing guidance for collaboration revenue, which reflects non-cash based accounting recognition of performance obligations under our collaboration agreement with Kyowa Kirin. We expect this to be $45 to $55 million in 2026, $90 to $110 million in 2027, and $90 to $110 million in 2028.
Speaker #2: Kura is providing guidance for collaboration revenue, which reflects non-cash-based accounting recognition of performance obligations under our collaboration agreement with Keola Karen. We expect this to be $45 to $55 million in 2026, $90 to $110 million in 2027, and $90 to $110 million in 2028.
Speaker #2: Current cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments as of December 31, 2025, together with anticipated milestones of $180 million under our collaboration agreement with Keola Karen, are expected to fund our Ziftomenib AML program through the first top-line Phase 3 results from KOMET-0017 anticipated in 2028.
Tom Doyle: Current cash equivalents, and short-term investments as of 31 December 2025, together with anticipated milestones of $180 million under our collaboration agreement with Kyowa Kirin, are expected to fund our ziftomenib AML program through the first top line Phase 3 results from KOMET-017, anticipated in 2028. With that, I turn the call back over to Troy.
Tom Doyle: Current cash equivalents, and short-term investments as of 31 December 2025, together with anticipated milestones of $180 million under our collaboration agreement with Kyowa Kirin, are expected to fund our ziftomenib AML program through the first top line Phase 3 results from KOMET-017, anticipated in 2028. With that, I turn the call back over to Troy.
Speaker #2: With that, I turn the call back over to Troy.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Tom. Kura enters 2026 with strong momentum. We have a launched product, which is performing well. We have the broadest frontline AML development strategy underway.
Mollie Leoni: Thank you, Tom. Kura enters 2026 with strong momentum. We have a launched product which is performing well. We have the broadest frontline AML development strategy underway, and we have multiple data readouts ahead, and we have a second platform advancing in solid tumors. Our priorities are clear. Accelerate uptake of KOMZIFTI in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML, deliver strong quarter-over-quarter product revenue growth, advance and execute on our first to frontline strategy, generate and publish combination data which guides treatment decisions, and deliver clinical updates across our FTI platform.
Troy Wilson: Thank you, Tom. Kura enters 2026 with strong momentum. We have a launched product which is performing well. We have the broadest frontline AML development strategy underway, and we have multiple data readouts ahead, and we have a second platform advancing in solid tumors. Our priorities are clear. Accelerate uptake of KOMZIFTI in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML, deliver strong quarter-over-quarter product revenue growth, advance and execute on our first to frontline strategy, generate and publish combination data which guides treatment decisions, and deliver clinical updates across our FTI platform.
Speaker #3: We have multiple data readouts ahead, and we have a second platform advancing in solid tumors. Our priorities are clear: accelerate uptake of Comzivity in relapsed and refractory NPM1-mutant AML, deliver strong quarter-over-quarter product revenue growth, advance and execute on our first-to-frontline strategy, generate and publish combination data which guides treatment decisions, and deliver clinical updates across our FTI platform.
Speaker #3: 2026 will be a year of execution, expansion, and data. We're building a durable franchise in AML and a broader oncology pipeline with both breadth and depth.
Troy Wilson: 2026 will be a year of execution, expansion, and data. We're building a durable franchise in AML and a broader oncology pipeline with both breadth and depth. Everything is moving forward commercially, clinically, and operationally. We're focused on converting that momentum into long-term value for patients and shareholders. With that, Abigail, we'll conclude and open the call for questions.
Troy Wilson: 2026 will be a year of execution, expansion, and data. We're building a durable franchise in AML and a broader oncology pipeline with both breadth and depth. Everything is moving forward commercially, clinically, and operationally. We're focused on converting that momentum into long-term value for patients and shareholders. With that, Abigail, we'll conclude and open the call for questions.
Speaker #3: Everything is moving forward—commercially, clinically, and operationally. And we're focused on converting that momentum into long-term value for patients and shareholders. With that, Abigail, we'll conclude and open the call for questions.
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Speaker #4: Hey, good morning. Congrats on the progress. Maybe a commercial question for Brian: you made a very interesting comment about step editing. That some peers may require to use Comzivity before the competitor product.
Li Watsek: Hey, good morning. Congrats on the progress. Maybe a commercial question for Brian. You made a very interesting comment about step editing that some payers may require to use KOMZIFTI before the competitor product. I just wonder if you can, you know, give us a little bit more information about that. What percentage of payers have implemented this step through policy and any specific sort of feedback you can share from payers regarding this edit?
Li Watsek: Hey, good morning. Congrats on the progress. Maybe a commercial question for Brian. You made a very interesting comment about step editing that some payers may require to use KOMZIFTI before the competitor product. I just wonder if you can, you know, give us a little bit more information about that. What percentage of payers have implemented this step through policy and any specific sort of feedback you can share from payers regarding this edit?
Speaker #4: I just wonder if you can give us a little bit more information about that. What percentage of peers have implemented this step through policy, and any specific sort of feedback you can share from peers regarding this edit?
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks, Li, for the question. I'm just going to remind everyone we're going to try to limit the questions to one question per analyst.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. I. Thanks, Li, for the question. I'm gonna just to remind everyone, we're gonna try to limit one question per analyst so that we can get through everyone. Brian, I'll let you. You know, there's two or three questions tucked in there. I'll sort of let you.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. I. Thanks, Li, for the question. I'm gonna just to remind everyone, we're gonna try to limit one question per analyst so that we can get through everyone. Brian, I'll let you. You know, there's two or three questions tucked in there. I'll sort of let you.
Speaker #3: And so that we can get through everyone. But Brian, I'll let you—there's two or three questions tucked in there. I'll let you first speak to them.
Brian Powl: Sure.
Brian Powl: Sure.
Troy Wilson: You know, speak to them.
Troy Wilson: You know, speak to them.
Speaker #2: All right, thanks. And thanks, Li, for the question. Yeah, yeah, as we shared in the remarks, I think we think that this news of a step edit and requirement from some payers that's just come forward is a powerful leading indicator that supports kind of our overall assertion about Comzivity being differentiated.
Brian Powl: All right. Thanks. Thanks, Li, for the question. Yeah. As we shared in the remarks, I think we think of this news of a step edit required from some payers that's just come forward is a powerful leading indicator that supports kind of our overall assertion about KOMZIFTI being differentiated. You know, I will say that our team, the market access team, has done a phenomenal job securing access and working with payers so broadly to get this access so early. What I can kind of share around the step edit, as you know, what that recommendation from some of these payers is that a patient would be recommended to receive KOMZIFTI before receiving any other MEK inhibitor.
Brian Powl: All right. Thanks. Thanks, Li, for the question. Yeah. As we shared in the remarks, I think we think of this news of a step edit required from some payers that's just come forward is a powerful leading indicator that supports kind of our overall assertion about KOMZIFTI being differentiated. You know, I will say that our team, the market access team, has done a phenomenal job securing access and working with payers so broadly to get this access so early. What I can kind of share around the step edit, as you know, what that recommendation from some of these payers is that a patient would be recommended to receive KOMZIFTI before receiving any other MEK inhibitor.
Speaker #2: I will say that our team, the Market Access team, has done a phenomenal job—securing access and working with payers so broadly to get this access so early.
Speaker #2: What I can kind of share around the step edit, and as you know, what that recommends—the recommendation from some of these payers—is that a patient should, would be recommended to receive Comzivity before receiving any other menin inhibitor.
Brian Powl: Our understanding is the basis of that is built on a report from a group called IPD Analytics. It's an independent consulting firm who is influential to many payers. And their recent reports of the relapsed refractory market in evaluating KOMZIFTI recommended this step edit for adult patients with relapsed refractory and KMT2A mutant AML. We know that there are some payers that have started to implement that, as I shared. The biggest driver, from what we can understand, from the consulting summary from IPD, is that really, you know, the four pillars we talked about around the differentiation of KOMZIFTI stood out, particularly because of the predictability of the cost.
Speaker #2: Our understanding is the basis of that is built on a report from a group called IPD Analytics. It's an independent consulting firm who is influential to many payers.
Brian Powl: Our understanding is the basis of that is built on a report from a group called IPD Analytics. It's an independent consulting firm who is influential to many payers. And their recent reports of the relapsed refractory market in evaluating KOMZIFTI recommended this step edit for adult patients with relapsed refractory and KMT2A mutant AML. We know that there are some payers that have started to implement that, as I shared. The biggest driver, from what we can understand, from the consulting summary from IPD, is that really, you know, the four pillars we talked about around the differentiation of KOMZIFTI stood out, particularly because of the predictability of the cost.
Speaker #2: And their recent reports of the relapsed refractory market and evaluating Comzivity recommended this step edit for adult patients with relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML.
Speaker #2: We know that there are some payers that have started to implement that, as I shared. The biggest driver, from what we can understand from the consulting summary from IPD, is that really the four pillars we talked about around the differentiation of Comzivity stood out—particularly because of the predictability of the cost.
Speaker #2: If you look at it, based on their assessment, the annual WACC for Comzivity in this setting is just under $600,000 a year. But with our competitor menin inhibitor, because of the different dosing schemas and SKUs that come forward, it comes out to almost $1 million a year.
Brian Powl: If you look at the, Based on their assessment, the annual WAC for KOMZIFTI in this setting is about just under $600,000 a year. With our competitor MEK inhibitor, because of the different dosing, schemas and SKUs that come forward, it comes out to almost $1 million a year. I think that's where we see they're driving the difference when you also add in the safety profile, the combinability, and the predictability of that. I can't really give you know, an overview of how many plans. There are a handful. We can't predict how many other plans may do this in the future, but it's encouraging for us as we look to become the class leader here in the NPM1 space.
Brian Powl: If you look at the, Based on their assessment, the annual WAC for KOMZIFTI in this setting is about just under $600,000 a year. With our competitor MEK inhibitor, because of the different dosing, schemas and SKUs that come forward, it comes out to almost $1 million a year. I think that's where we see they're driving the difference when you also add in the safety profile, the combinability, and the predictability of that. I can't really give you know, an overview of how many plans. There are a handful. We can't predict how many other plans may do this in the future, but it's encouraging for us as we look to become the class leader here in the NPM1 space.
Speaker #2: And I think that's where we see they're driving the difference. When you also add in the safety profile, the combinability, and the predictability of that.
Speaker #2: So, I can't really give you an overview of how many plans there are—a handful. And we can't predict how many other plans may do this in the future.
Speaker #2: But it's encouraging for us as we look to become the class leader here in the NPM1 space.
Speaker #1: Thank you. The next question comes from Roger. Your next question comes with Roger Song from Jefferies. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Li Watsek: Thank you.
Li Watsek: Thank you.
Troy Wilson: Thanks, Li.
Troy Wilson: Thanks, Li.
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Speaker #3: I think, congrats for the update, and then this very encouraging early launch. So, the step edits is certainly very interesting. Maybe, just given the access is very rapid and broad, can you comment on the patient demand side versus the revenue generation? If anything, you can comment on the trend for the rest of the year?
Roger Song: Excellent. Congrats for the update and then the very encouraging early launch signal. The step edit is certainly very interesting. Maybe just, given the access is very rapid and broad, can you comment on the patient demand side versus the revenue generation? If anything, you can comment on the trend for the rest of the year, that would be helpful. Thank you.
Roger Song: Excellent. Congrats for the update and then the very encouraging early launch signal. The step edit is certainly very interesting. Maybe just, given the access is very rapid and broad, can you comment on the patient demand side versus the revenue generation? If anything, you can comment on the trend for the rest of the year, that would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #3: That would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks, Roger. I'm happy to do that. So we haven't—we're not going to be giving you guidance specifically on the trend. What we can tell you is that the launch, as I said, has been off to a very strong start.
Brian Powl: Yeah. Thanks, Roger. Happy to do that. You know, we're not gonna be giving you guidance specifically on the trend. What we can tell you is that the launch has, as I said, been off to a very strong start. We are seeing patient demand. You know, the feedback we've heard from physicians has echoed back the differentiation pillars that we've talked about. Payers, physician, payers, physicians, and pharmacists have all kind of given us similar feedback. What we anticipate and, you know, as we get into our next quarters, we'll start to see a little bit more data we'll be able to share around, you know, new patient starts and things.
Brian Powl: Yeah. Thanks, Roger. Happy to do that. You know, we're not gonna be giving you guidance specifically on the trend. What we can tell you is that the launch has, as I said, been off to a very strong start. We are seeing patient demand. You know, the feedback we've heard from physicians has echoed back the differentiation pillars that we've talked about. Payers, physician, payers, physicians, and pharmacists have all kind of given us similar feedback. What we anticipate and, you know, as we get into our next quarters, we'll start to see a little bit more data we'll be able to share around, you know, new patient starts and things.
Speaker #2: We are seeing patient demand the feedback we've heard from physicians has echoed back the differentiation pillars that we've talked about. Payers, physicians, and pharmacists have all kind of given us similar feedback.
Speaker #2: So, what we anticipate is that as we get into our next quarters, we'll start to see a little bit more data we'll be able to share around new patient starts and things.
Speaker #2: I can tell you that the demand has been strong and that we've been pleased with the direction that the launch has gone so far.
Brian Powl: I can tell you that the demand has been strong and that we've been pleased with the direction that the launch has gone so far.
Brian Powl: I can tell you that the demand has been strong and that we've been pleased with the direction that the launch has gone so far.
Speaker #3: Excellent. Thank you.
Roger Song: Excellent. Thank you.
Roger Song: Excellent. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Jonathan Chang with LiRink Partners. Jonathan, you may now unmute and ask your question.
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Speaker #5: Good morning. This is Albert Augustinus on for Jonathan Chang. Thanks for taking my questions and congratulations on all your progress. So my question is, what do you see as the biggest hurdle now for Comzivity to gain market share in 2026?
Albert Agustinus: Good morning. This is Albert Agustinus on for Jonathan Chang. Thanks for taking my questions. Congratulations on all your progress.
Albert Agustinus: Good morning. This is Albert Agustinus on for Jonathan Chang. Thanks for taking my questions. Congratulations on all your progress.
Salim Syed: My question is, what do you see as the biggest hurdle now for KOMZIFTI to gain market share in 2026? Is it just prescribers, inertia or something else? Thanks.
Salim Syed: My question is, what do you see as the biggest hurdle now for KOMZIFTI to gain market share in 2026? Is it just prescribers, inertia or something else? Thanks.
Speaker #5: Now is it just prescribers, inertia, or something else? Thanks.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure. Sure. Thanks, Albert, for that. Yeah, I mean, I think that we're what we anticipate with the NPM1 market this is a market that is really going to be driven on new patients coming forward and kind of incident patients as they're diagnosed into the or progress into the second, third, fourth line setting.
Brian Powl: Yeah, sure. Sure. Thanks, Albert, for that. Yeah, I mean, I think that what we anticipate with the NPM1 market, this is a market that is really gonna be driven on new patients coming forward and kind of incident patients as they're diagnosed into or progress into the second, third, fourth line setting. It really will come down for us as to getting those patients into our queue. One element of this market that's a bit unpredictable for us, as you well know, is that, you know, we're approved in a monotherapy setting, and that's where our teams are gonna be promoting. We've heard a lot from physicians that they're looking to use menin inhibitors and KOMZIFTI in combination.
Brian Powl: Yeah, sure. Sure. Thanks, Albert, for that. Yeah, I mean, I think that what we anticipate with the NPM1 market, this is a market that is really gonna be driven on new patients coming forward and kind of incident patients as they're diagnosed into or progress into the second, third, fourth line setting. It really will come down for us as to getting those patients into our queue. One element of this market that's a bit unpredictable for us, as you well know, is that, you know, we're approved in a monotherapy setting, and that's where our teams are gonna be promoting. We've heard a lot from physicians that they're looking to use menin inhibitors and KOMZIFTI in combination.
Speaker #3: So it really will come down for us is to getting those patients into our queue. One of the parts I think one element of this market that's a bit unpredictable for us as you well know is that we're approved in a monotherapy setting.
Speaker #3: And that's where our teams are going to be promoting. But we've heard a lot from physicians that they're looking to use menin inhibitors and Comzivity in combination.
Speaker #3: That will be one of the questions for us to understand, is how that uptake comes out in the combination setting. That will be something we'll be able to see coming forward in the future.
Brian Powl: That will be one of the questions for us to understand, is how that uptake comes up in the combination setting. That will be something we'll be able to see coming forward in the future. You know, we don't see, you know, the payer hurdles have been, you know, really nonexistent. We're really pleased with how quickly our uptake has been getting on policy. We don't really see any major hurdles other than just getting those incident patients onto therapy.
Brian Powl: That will be one of the questions for us to understand, is how that uptake comes up in the combination setting. That will be something we'll be able to see coming forward in the future. You know, we don't see, you know, the payer hurdles have been, you know, really nonexistent. We're really pleased with how quickly our uptake has been getting on policy. We don't really see any major hurdles other than just getting those incident patients onto therapy.
Speaker #3: But we don't see the payer hurdles have been really nonexistent. We're really pleased with how quickly our uptake has been getting on policy. So we don't really see any major hurdles other than just getting those incident patients onto therapy.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Albert, this is Troy. I might just add a comment or two to Brian's response. This is why we've laid out in our milestones for 2026 the significance of the publication in relapsed refractory NPM1-mutant AML with venetoclax, Mollie mentioned, as well as the combination with gilteritinib.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Albert, this is Troy. I might just add a comment or two to Brian's response. This is why we've laid out, you know, in our, in our milestones for 2026, the significance of the publication in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML with Venclexta that Molly mentioned, as well as the combination with gilteritinib. You know, as Brian mentioned, this is a very different market than KMT2A. We're obviously gonna have the sales team promoting on label with monotherapy, but what's clear, and I think will continue to be clear, is the ability to combine, the ability to drive better outcomes for patients is ultimately going to, you know, be of great value.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Albert, this is Troy. I might just add a comment or two to Brian's response. This is why we've laid out, you know, in our, in our milestones for 2026, the significance of the publication in relapsed refractory NPM1 mutant AML with Venclexta that Molly mentioned, as well as the combination with gilteritinib. You know, as Brian mentioned, this is a very different market than KMT2A. We're obviously gonna have the sales team promoting on label with monotherapy, but what's clear, and I think will continue to be clear, is the ability to combine, the ability to drive better outcomes for patients is ultimately going to, you know, be of great value.
Speaker #5: As Brian mentioned, this is a very different market than KMT2A. We're obviously going to have the sales team promoting on label with monotherapy. But what's clear and I think we'll continue to be clear is the ability to combine, the ability to drive better outcomes for patients is ultimately going to be of great value.
Speaker #5: And what we see, it's why we feel confident that we're going to take leadership not only of the NPM1 mutant class, but ultimately of the much larger opportunity.
Troy Wilson: What we see, it's why we feel confident that, you know, we're gonna take leadership not only of the NPM1 mutant class, but ultimately, you know, of the much larger opportunity. It's going to be about combinations and those attributes that Brian mentioned that were highlighted in the IPD Analytics report, those become ever more important as you move into combinations. Just to make an example, you know, we're well ahead of the competition in terms of combining with FLT3 inhibitors. As you know, that's half of the NPM1 population. It's an important part of our leadership strategy.
Troy Wilson: What we see, it's why we feel confident that, you know, we're gonna take leadership not only of the NPM1 mutant class, but ultimately, you know, of the much larger opportunity. It's going to be about combinations and those attributes that Brian mentioned that were highlighted in the IPD Analytics report, those become ever more important as you move into combinations. Just to make an example, you know, we're well ahead of the competition in terms of combining with FLT3 inhibitors. As you know, that's half of the NPM1 population. It's an important part of our leadership strategy.
Speaker #5: Because it's going to be about combinations, and those attributes that Brian mentioned—that were highlighted in the IPD analytics report—those become ever more important.
Speaker #5: As you move into combinations. Just to make an example, we're well ahead of the competition in terms of combining with FLIP3 inhibitors. As you know, that's half of the NPM1 population.
Speaker #5: So it's an important part of our leadership strategy. Thank you.
Salim Syed: Thank you.
Salim Syed: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Selene Syed with Nizuho Securities. Please unmute and ask your question.
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Speaker #2: Great. Thanks so much, guys. Congrats on the progress. Just one from us on the 50% that you noted here, Troy. The market feedback suggests you get up to 50% of AML patients here.
Salim Syed: Great. Thanks so much, guys. Congrats on the progress. Just one from us on the 50% that you noted here, Troy. You know, the market feedback suggests you get up to 50% of AML patients here, we're talking about. Just what is the assumptions that you put in front of these doctors when you're kinda doing your market feedback work? Is it just based on the existing data, or is there something that you're still planning to get to sort of get to that, you know, leading share, I think, as you put it?
Salim Syed: Great. Thanks so much, guys. Congrats on the progress. Just one from us on the 50% that you noted here, Troy. You know, the market feedback suggests you get up to 50% of AML patients here, we're talking about. Just what is the assumptions that you put in front of these doctors when you're kinda doing your market feedback work? Is it just based on the existing data, or is there something that you're still planning to get to sort of get to that, you know, leading share, I think, as you put it?
Speaker #2: Just what is put in front of these doctors when you're kind of doing your market feedback work? And is it just based on the existing data, or is there something that you're still planning to get to sort of get to that leading share, I think, as you put it?
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Salim, I take from your question, you're referring to the relapsed refractories segment. Is that where your question was pointed?
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Salim, I take from your question, you're referring to the relapsed refractories segment. Is that where your question was pointed?
Speaker #3: Yeah. And Selene, I take from your question you're referring to the relapsed refractory segment. Is that where your question is pointed? Yeah.
Salim Syed: Correct. Yes. Correct.
Salim Syed: Correct. Yes. Correct.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll ask Brian.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll ask Brian.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
Salim Syed: It's the market feedback.
Salim Syed: It's the market feedback.
Speaker #3: Yeah, I'll ask Brian to speak to that. Thanks for the clarification, Brian.
Troy Wilson: Yeah, I'll ask Brian to speak to that. Thanks for the clarification. Brian?
Troy Wilson: Yeah, I'll ask Brian to speak to that. Thanks for the clarification. Brian?
Speaker #2: Yeah, no, absolutely. And we've gotten feedback as well, both from physicians, but we do physician market research as well. And it's interesting. We've had— we basically provide the profiles of the products.
Brian Powl: Yeah. No, absolutely. You know, we've gotten feedback as we, you know, both from physicians, but we do physician market research as well. It's interesting, we've had, you know, we basically provide the profiles of the products. It's blinded. We don't ask them which company. They don't know who's asking the questions. Of those we found that have had familiarity with the menin class, the profile that we've outlined seem to has come back to be the preferred profile, both across efficacy, safety, the, you know, the simplicity, combinability, and compatibility of working with other agents.
Brian Powl: Yeah. No, absolutely. You know, we've gotten feedback as we, you know, both from physicians, but we do physician market research as well. It's interesting, we've had, you know, we basically provide the profiles of the products. It's blinded. We don't ask them which company. They don't know who's asking the questions. Of those we found that have had familiarity with the menin class, the profile that we've outlined seem to has come back to be the preferred profile, both across efficacy, safety, the, you know, the simplicity, combinability, and compatibility of working with other agents.
Speaker #2: It's blinded. We don't ask them which company. They don't know who's asking the questions. And of those we found that have familiarity with the menin class, the profile that we've outlined seems to have come back to be the preferred profile, both across efficacy, safety, the simplicity, combinability, compatibility of working with other agents.
Speaker #2: So, those are the feedback we've heard, is that it gives us the confidence that as we build into this market, we'll have an opportunity to become that market leader and take the lead share in the menin class.
Brian Powl: This is the feedback we've heard, is that gives us the confidence that as we build into this market, we'll have an opportunity to become that market leader and take the lead, share in the menin class.
Brian Powl: This is the feedback we've heard, is that gives us the confidence that as we build into this market, we'll have an opportunity to become that market leader and take the lead, share in the menin class.
Speaker #3: Yeah. And I'll just add to that. Selene, I'll just add to that. I mean, at this point, we're not really talking about FLIP3 in terms of doing the market research.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. I'll just add to that, Salim. I'll just add to that. I mean, at this point, we're not, you know, really talking about FLT3 in terms of doing the market research. This is really focused on the monotherapy. You know, one of the differences between this market and the KMT2A market is, obviously, if you have a FLT3 mutation, gilteritinib has a survival advantage. So it's reasonable to assume a menin inhibitor is gonna be sequenced after gilteritinib. If you can demonstrate, as Mollie indicated, that you can safely combine and that that's beneficial to the patient, that's gonna ultimately drive kind of a next leg within that relapsed refractory segment.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. I'll just add to that, Salim. I'll just add to that. I mean, at this point, we're not, you know, really talking about FLT3 in terms of doing the market research. This is really focused on the monotherapy. You know, one of the differences between this market and the KMT2A market is, obviously, if you have a FLT3 mutation, gilteritinib has a survival advantage. So it's reasonable to assume a menin inhibitor is gonna be sequenced after gilteritinib. If you can demonstrate, as Mollie indicated, that you can safely combine and that that's beneficial to the patient, that's gonna ultimately drive kind of a next leg within that relapsed refractory segment.
Speaker #3: This is really focused on the monotherapy. But one of the differences between this market and the KMT2A market is, obviously, if you have a FLT3 mutation, Gilteritinib has a survival advantage.
Speaker #3: And so, it's reasonable to assume a menin inhibitor is going to be sequenced after Gilt. If you can demonstrate, as Mollie indicated, that you can safely combine and that that's beneficial to the patient, that's going to ultimately drive kind of a next leg within that relapsed refractory segment.
Speaker #3: We're not really yet there with the physicians because we obviously have to do that with data. But that's what gives us the encouragement. Today, it's monotherapy.
Troy Wilson: We're not really yet there with the physicians because we obviously have to do that with data. That's what gives us the encouragement. Today, it's monotherapy. Tomorrow, it's the combination with Venclexta. You know, the day or 2 after tomorrow, it's the FLT3 combination. It just builds, you know, one after the other.
Troy Wilson: We're not really yet there with the physicians because we obviously have to do that with data. That's what gives us the encouragement. Today, it's monotherapy. Tomorrow, it's the combination with Venclexta. You know, the day or 2 after tomorrow, it's the FLT3 combination. It just builds, you know, one after the other.
Speaker #3: Tomorrow, it's the combination with veneza. The day or two after tomorrow, it's the FLIP3 combination. And it just builds one after the other.
Speaker #5: Got it. Super helpful. Thanks so much, guys.
Salim Syed: Got it. Super helpful. Thanks so much, guys.
Salim Syed: Got it. Super helpful. Thanks so much, guys.
Speaker #2: Sure.
Troy Wilson: Sure.
Troy Wilson: Sure.
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Speaker #5: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and congratulations on the early launch. Hopefully, things are going well for 2026. You talked a little bit Mollie talked a little bit about the combination of Cozaar/Nib and Gilteritinib and the FLIP3 opportunity.
Reni Benjamin: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and congratulations on the early launch and hope everything's going well for 2026. You know, Mollie talked a little bit about the combination of quizartinib and gilteritinib and the FLT3, you know, opportunity. Can you talk a little bit about, you know, what you're hoping to see in your FLT3 data and how important is kind of maximizing the FLT3 opportunity when we're thinking about, you know, the potential $7 billion TAM for Xospata? Thanks.
Reni Benjamin: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and congratulations on the early launch and hope everything's going well for 2026. You know, Mollie talked a little bit about the combination of quizartinib and gilteritinib and the FLT3, you know, opportunity. Can you talk a little bit about, you know, what you're hoping to see in your FLT3 data and how important is kind of maximizing the FLT3 opportunity when we're thinking about, you know, the potential $7 billion TAM for Xospata? Thanks.
Speaker #5: Can you talk a little bit about what you're hoping to see in your FLIP3 data, and how important is kind of maximizing the FLIP3 opportunity when we're thinking about the potential $7 billion TAM for ZIFTA?
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Mollie Leoni: Yeah. Thanks for that question. The most important thing you can see when you look at our combination data is gonna be safety. Safety indicating that you actually can combine. Obviously after that, looking to improve upon the agents in isolation. As I said, we'll be presenting our relapsed refractory gilteritinib data towards the end of the year. We will be presenting both the dose escalation and the expansion, which should tell you that we were able to combine the drugs successfully and safely for these patients. With the front line, we are in the process of dose escalation with quizartinib, a combination with ziftomenib plus 7+3. Again, that continues to advance.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks for that question. So the most important thing you can see when you look at our combination data is going to be safety.
Mollie Leoni: Yeah. Thanks for that question. The most important thing you can see when you look at our combination data is gonna be safety. Safety indicating that you actually can combine. Obviously after that, looking to improve upon the agents in isolation. As I said, we'll be presenting our relapsed refractory gilteritinib data towards the end of the year. We will be presenting both the dose escalation and the expansion, which should tell you that we were able to combine the drugs successfully and safely for these patients. With the front line, we are in the process of dose escalation with quizartinib, a combination with ziftomenib plus 7+3. Again, that continues to advance.
Speaker #3: Safety indicating that you actually can combine. And obviously, after that, looking to improve upon the agents in isolation. So as I said, we'll be presenting our relapsed refractory Gilteritinib data towards the end of the year.
Speaker #3: We will be presenting both the dose escalation and the expansion, which should tell you that we were able to combine the drug successfully and safely for these patients.
Speaker #3: With the front line, we are in the process of dose escalation with Cozaar/Nib in combination with ZIFTA/Menib plus 7 plus 3. And again, that continues to advance.
Mollie Leoni: Overall, we expect to be able to show you not just the fact that we can combine, but that we can improve upon the outcomes of these drugs in isolation.
Speaker #3: So overall, we expect to be able to show you not just the fact that we can combine, but that we can improve upon the outcomes of these drugs in isolation.
Mollie Leoni: Overall, we expect to be able to show you not just the fact that we can combine, but that we can improve upon the outcomes of these drugs in isolation.
Speaker #2: Yeah. And Renn, just to build on Mollie's comments, we've seen commentary recently from Astellas that have identified Gilteritinib as one of their blockbusters, one of the five sort of emerging blockbusters.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Reni, just to build on Mollie's comments, you know, we've seen commentary recently from Astellas that have identified gilteritinib as one of their blockbusters, one of the 5 sort of emerging blockbusters. They have a frontline trial that was conducted with HOVON that is expected to read out any day now. As we said, FLT3 is a third of all AML patients. It's hard to imagine you can have a, you know, a market leadership strategy without including FLT3. That's why we're combining with both quizartinib and gilteritinib.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Reni, just to build on Mollie's comments, you know, we've seen commentary recently from Astellas that have identified gilteritinib as one of their blockbusters, one of the 5 sort of emerging blockbusters. They have a frontline trial that was conducted with HOVON that is expected to read out any day now. As we said, FLT3 is a third of all AML patients. It's hard to imagine you can have a, you know, a market leadership strategy without including FLT3. That's why we're combining with both quizartinib and gilteritinib.
Speaker #2: They have a front-line trial that's was conducted with Hovon that is expected to read out any day now. As we said, FLIP3 is a third of all of AML patients.
Speaker #2: It's hard to imagine you can have a market leadership strategy without including FLIP3. That's why we're combining with both Cozaar/Nib and Gilteritinib. You will see us over the next quarter or two move more aggressively into the FLIP3 front-line setting.
Troy Wilson: You will see us over the next quarter or two move more aggressively into the FLT3 frontline setting, we haven't really yet broken it out, but that will be, you know, it's a major driver in that $7 billion dollar TAM, ultimately, as you look across all lines of therapy.
Troy Wilson: You will see us over the next quarter or two move more aggressively into the FLT3 frontline setting, we haven't really yet broken it out, but that will be, you know, it's a major driver in that $7 billion dollar TAM, ultimately, as you look across all lines of therapy.
Speaker #2: Because we haven't really yet broken it out, but that will be it's a major driver in that $7 billion TAM. Ultimately, as you look across all lines of therapy.
Speaker #5: Perfect. Thanks very much, guys.
Reni Benjamin: Perfect. Thanks very much, guys.
Reni Benjamin: Perfect. Thanks very much, guys.
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Speaker #4: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on all the progress. I'll ask one on a slightly different topic regarding FTIs.
Charles Zhu: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks, for taking our questions, and congrats on all the progress. I'll ask one on a slightly different topic, regarding FTIs. We had a lot of updates from the recent ASCO GU conference, particularly in renal cell carcinoma and the some of the emerging HIF-2-alpha or emerging and approved HIF-2-alpha inhibitors in that space. Maybe could you help contextualize your upcoming second half data for darli plus cabo, not only within the current standard of care, but also amongst the potential emerging standard of care as well. Thank you.
Charles Zhu: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks, for taking our questions, and congrats on all the progress. I'll ask one on a slightly different topic, regarding FTIs. We had a lot of updates from the recent ASCO GU conference, particularly in renal cell carcinoma and the some of the emerging HIF-2-alpha or emerging and approved HIF-2-alpha inhibitors in that space. Maybe could you help contextualize your upcoming second half data for darli plus cabo, not only within the current standard of care, but also amongst the potential emerging standard of care as well. Thank you.
Speaker #4: We had a lot of updates from the recent ASCO GU conference, particularly in renal cell carcinoma. And some of the emerging HIF2/alpha or emerging and approved HIF2/alpha inhibitors in that space.
Speaker #4: Maybe could you help contextualize your upcoming second-half data for Darley plus Cabo, not only within the current standard of care, but also amongst the potential emerging standard of care as well?
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Sure. Yeah. We're following that data very closely as well, and it's looking very good for patients. In fact, I think, as you're referring to, it's looking so good that it probably will end up moving up in line, in line of therapy for these patients.
Mollie Leoni: Sure. Yeah, we're following that data very closely as well. It's looking very good for patients. In fact, I think as you're referring to, it's looking so good that it probably will end up moving up in line of therapy for these patients. We, as we announced, have just started our phase 1B, which is a randomized phase 1B so that we can both contend with Project Optimus, also set some baseline data for ourselves with cabozantinib in this particular line of therapy. We will be able to also see if patients that are randomized to the cabo monotherapy can cross over and successfully either gain or regain responses when you combine it with Darolutamide, which I think is an important demonstration of our mechanism of action.
Mollie Leoni: Sure. Yeah, we're following that data very closely as well. It's looking very good for patients. In fact, I think as you're referring to, it's looking so good that it probably will end up moving up in line of therapy for these patients. We, as we announced, have just started our phase 1B, which is a randomized phase 1B so that we can both contend with Project Optimus, also set some baseline data for ourselves with cabozantinib in this particular line of therapy. We will be able to also see if patients that are randomized to the cabo monotherapy can cross over and successfully either gain or regain responses when you combine it with Darolutamide, which I think is an important demonstration of our mechanism of action.
Speaker #3: We, as we announced, have just started our phase 1B, which is a randomized phase 1B so that we can both contend with Project Optimist, but also set some baseline data for ourselves with Cabozanib in this particular line of therapy.
Speaker #3: And we will be able to also see if patients that are randomized to the Cabo monotherapy can cross over and successfully either gain or regain responses when you combine it with Darley/Farnet, which I think is an important demonstration of our mechanism of action.
Speaker #3: We do think that our data as progress as they are, and we have limited follow-up time compared to some of these other studies, are still competitive with a lot of these data that are being presented.
Mollie Leoni: We do think that our data as progressed as they are, and we have, you know, we have limited follow-up time compared to some of these other studies, are still competitive with a lot of these data that are being presented, and we look forward to sharing that updated information with you. What we do think is, again, that these good outcomes for patients, HIF-2-alphas, will move them earlier in lines of therapy. You'll see them in the front line, and ultimately, it can open a rather big vacuous space in the second line that we could then jump right into with this cabozantinib darolutamide combination.
Mollie Leoni: We do think that our data as progressed as they are, and we have, you know, we have limited follow-up time compared to some of these other studies, are still competitive with a lot of these data that are being presented, and we look forward to sharing that updated information with you. What we do think is, again, that these good outcomes for patients, HIF-2-alphas, will move them earlier in lines of therapy. You'll see them in the front line, and ultimately, it can open a rather big vacuous space in the second line that we could then jump right into with this cabozantinib darolutamide combination.
Speaker #3: And we look forward to sharing that updated information with you. But what we do think is, again, that these good outcomes for patients with HIF2/alpha will move them earlier in lines of therapy.
Speaker #3: So you'll see them in the front line and ultimately it can open a rather big vacuous space in the second line that we could then jump right into with this Cabo/Darley/Farnet combination.
Speaker #4: Got it. Thanks.
Charles Zhu: Got it. Thanks.
Charles Zhu: Got it. Thanks.
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Speaker #2: Good morning. Thanks so much for taking our question and congrats on the progress. Brian? I was hoping you could share some of the early feedback from your prescribers that are new to COM50.
Jason Zemansky: Good morning. Thanks so much for taking our question, and congrats on the progress. Brian, I was hoping you could share some of the early feedback from your prescribers that are new to KOMZIFTI, maybe that haven't been associated with any of your clinical programs or at least minimally associated. We recognize this is a small community and it's early days, but maybe for those especially who have participated in a trial associated with your rival or don't have a large AML population, how has the product profile resonated? Thanks.
Jason Zemansky: Good morning. Thanks so much for taking our question, and congrats on the progress. Brian, I was hoping you could share some of the early feedback from your prescribers that are new to KOMZIFTI, maybe that haven't been associated with any of your clinical programs or at least minimally associated. We recognize this is a small community and it's early days, but maybe for those especially who have participated in a trial associated with your rival or don't have a large AML population, how has the product profile resonated? Thanks.
Speaker #2: Maybe that haven't been associated with any of your clinical programs or at least minimally associated. We recognize this is a small community and it's early days, but maybe for those, especially participating in a trial associated with your rival or don't have a large AML population, how has the product profile resonated?
Speaker #2: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks for that question, Jason. And I'd speak to it both from physicians we've heard from, but I'd also point to pharmacists. The pharmacists that have maybe not been involved so much with treating the patients outside of the trials.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Thanks for that question, Jason. And I'd speak to it, you know, both from physicians we've heard from, but I'd also point to pharmacists, like the pharmacists that are, you know, have maybe not been involved so much with treating the patients outside of the trials. The feedback that we've heard has really, you know, they recognize that there are, you know, there's multiple MEK inhibitors available. The efficacy we've heard seems to be, you know, table stakes essentially. I think both products have similar efficacy.
Troy Wilson: Yeah. Thanks for that question, Jason. And I'd speak to it, you know, both from physicians we've heard from, but I'd also point to pharmacists, like the pharmacists that are, you know, have maybe not been involved so much with treating the patients outside of the trials. The feedback that we've heard has really, you know, they recognize that there are, you know, there's multiple MEK inhibitors available. The efficacy we've heard seems to be, you know, table stakes essentially. I think both products have similar efficacy.
Speaker #5: The feedback that we've heard has really they recognize that there are there's multiple Menin inhibitors available. The efficacy we've heard seems to be table stakes, essentially.
Speaker #5: I think both products have similar efficacy. What really does outline is the questions around how to manage QT, understanding what monitoring for QT prolongation means versus and it's not just having to monitor, but to understand the potential implication of a higher risk of cardiac issues.
Brian Powl: What really does outline is, you know, the questions around how to manage QT, understanding what monitoring for QT prolongation means. It's not just having to monitor, but to understand the potential implication of a higher risk of cardiac issues has come back from us. As well as, I mean, even the simplicity of treating patients once a day without having to do a lot of, you know, dose modifications based on the complexity of other therapies they have. We've heard that. I mean, I think what we know is that, of course, a lot of probably early scripts are gonna be those for people who've had a lot of experience with us.
Brian Powl: What really does outline is, you know, the questions around how to manage QT, understanding what monitoring for QT prolongation means. It's not just having to monitor, but to understand the potential implication of a higher risk of cardiac issues has come back from us. As well as, I mean, even the simplicity of treating patients once a day without having to do a lot of, you know, dose modifications based on the complexity of other therapies they have. We've heard that. I mean, I think what we know is that, of course, a lot of probably early scripts are gonna be those for people who've had a lot of experience with us.
Speaker #5: Has come back from us as well as I mean, even the simplicity of treating patients once a day without having to do a lot of dose modifications based on the complexity of other therapies they have.
Speaker #5: So we've heard that. I mean, I think what we know is that, of course, a lot of probably early scripts are going to be those for people who've had a lot of experience with us.
Speaker #5: But we have received feedback from physicians who are new to the Menin class and we've been spending our time educating them around COM50. So we're as we said, it's early days, but we're pleased with what we're hearing so far.
Brian Powl: We have received, you know, feedback from physicians who are new to the menin class, and we've been spending our time educating them around KOMZIFTI. We're, as we said, it's early days, but we're pleased with what we're hearing so far, and it seems to be consistent from what we've heard from those who do have experience.
Brian Powl: We have received, you know, feedback from physicians who are new to the menin class, and we've been spending our time educating them around KOMZIFTI. We're, as we said, it's early days, but we're pleased with what we're hearing so far, and it seems to be consistent from what we've heard from those who do have experience.
Speaker #5: And it seems to be consistent from what we've heard from those who do have experience.
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Speaker #4: Hey, good morning. This is Gustav on for Etza. Thank you for taking our question. I'd like to ask about COMED008, guided to showing data in combination with galteritinib in the second half of this year.
[Analyst] (Barclays): Hi, good morning. This is Gustav on for Etzer. Thank you for taking our question. I'd like to ask about KOMET-008, guided to showing data in combination with gilteritinib in the second half of this year. Could you remind us where you stand with regards to the combination of ziftomenib with FLAG-IDA and with the low-dose cytarabine? Thank you.
[Analyst] (Barclays): Hi, good morning. This is Gustav on for Etzer. Thank you for taking our question. I'd like to ask about KOMET-008, guided to showing data in combination with gilteritinib in the second half of this year. Could you remind us where you stand with regards to the combination of ziftomenib with FLAG-IDA and with the low-dose cytarabine? Thank you.
Speaker #4: Could you remind us where you stand with regards to the combination of Zepto with flag IDA and with the low-dose cytarabin? Thank you.
Speaker #3: Sure. No, as you said, we've been guiding to release the galteritinib data because in large part, we think that is very informative to physicians in how to treat the relapse refractory MPM1 mutants co-mutated with FLIP3 as well.
Mollie Leoni: Sure. No, as you said, we have been guiding to release the gilteritinib data because in large part we think that is very informative to physicians in how to treat the relapsed refractory NPM1 mutants co-mutated with FLT3 as well. Also within that study are our FLAG-IDA combination, which sees mostly second-line patients, and our LDAC combination, which allows for an easy combination with ziftomenib that gives time for this differentiating agent to really take effect while keeping disease control at simultaneously. We haven't guided to when we'll be releasing that data, but I do think that it'll be, we'll do it pieces at a time to keep the information coming and also be writing a publication. Again, we haven't guided as to when those additional cohorts will be shared.
Mollie Leoni: Sure. No, as you said, we have been guiding to release the gilteritinib data because in large part we think that is very informative to physicians in how to treat the relapsed refractory NPM1 mutants co-mutated with FLT3 as well. Also within that study are our FLAG-IDA combination, which sees mostly second-line patients, and our LDAC combination, which allows for an easy combination with ziftomenib that gives time for this differentiating agent to really take effect while keeping disease control at simultaneously. We haven't guided to when we'll be releasing that data, but I do think that it'll be, we'll do it pieces at a time to keep the information coming and also be writing a publication. Again, we haven't guided as to when those additional cohorts will be shared.
Speaker #3: But also within that study are our flag IDA combination which sees mostly second-line patients. And our LDAC combination, which allows for an easy combination with Zeptomenib that gives time for this differentiating agent to really take effect while keeping disease control, simultaneously.
Speaker #3: So we haven't guided to when we'll be releasing that data. But I do think that it'll be we'll do it pieces at a coming.
Speaker #3: And also be writing a publication. But again, we haven't guided as to when those additional cohorts will be shared.
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Speaker #2: Good morning. Thanks for taking our question. And it was great to see the team this week in Boston. We have one commercial question. I think you suggested that the relapse refractory MPM1 market's about 300 to 400 million dollars in revenue.
Phil Nadeau: Morning. Thanks for taking our question, and it was great to see the team this week in Boston. We have one commercial question. I think you suggested that the relapsed refractory NPM1 market's about $300 million to $400 million in revenue. We're curious to hear how quickly you think the Menin class can penetrate the market. Seems like the value proposition is pretty clear today. We're wondering if there's any gating like combo therapy data in particular that could be necessary to fully penetrate the opportunity. Thank you.
Phil Nadeau: Morning. Thanks for taking our question, and it was great to see the team this week in Boston. We have one commercial question. I think you suggested that the relapsed refractory NPM1 market's about $300 million to $400 million in revenue. We're curious to hear how quickly you think the Menin class can penetrate the market. Seems like the value proposition is pretty clear today. We're wondering if there's any gating like combo therapy data in particular that could be necessary to fully penetrate the opportunity. Thank you.
Speaker #2: We're curious to hear how quickly you think the Menin class can penetrate the market. Seems like the value proposition's pretty clear today, but we're wondering if there's any gating like combo therapy data in particular that could be necessary to fully penetrate the opportunity.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #5: So great. Thanks, Phil. And thanks again for seeing you. Good to see you yesterday. Yeah, the as we've said, this TAM of 350 to 400 million is kind of representing that relapse refractory space.
Brian Powl: Oh, great. Thanks, Phil, and thanks again for seeing you. Good to see you yesterday. As we've said, you know, this TAM of $350 to $400 million is kinda representing that relapsed refractory space. We think as because of the dynamics of the NPM1 population where physicians have previously had choices for their patients to either get Venclexta or a FLT3 inhibitor for those who are co-mutated, we anticipate early on they'll probably be more of the relapse or, you know, kind of the relapse refractory in the third or fourth-line setting. Combinations will help to drive that into the second-line, where you'd be able to see, you know, more patients get therapy and benefit earlier.
Brian Powl: Oh, great. Thanks, Phil, and thanks again for seeing you. Good to see you yesterday. As we've said, you know, this TAM of $350 to $400 million is kinda representing that relapsed refractory space. We think as because of the dynamics of the NPM1 population where physicians have previously had choices for their patients to either get Venclexta or a FLT3 inhibitor for those who are co-mutated, we anticipate early on they'll probably be more of the relapse or, you know, kind of the relapse refractory in the third or fourth-line setting. Combinations will help to drive that into the second-line, where you'd be able to see, you know, more patients get therapy and benefit earlier.
Speaker #5: We think as because of the dynamics of the MPM1 population where physicians have previously had choices for their patients to either get Beneza or a FLIP3 inhibitor for those who are co-mutated, we anticipate early on there'll probably be more of the kind of the relapse refractory in the third or fourth line setting combinations will help to drive that into the second line where you'd be able to see more patients get therapy and benefit earlier.
Brian Powl: Our expectation is that there'll be a lot of, you know, as we said, there's a lot of use likely in the, as a monotherapy, but the physicians are very excited about using in combination. It's not something we can promote actively, but we will educate based on publications around the, like the Venclexta publication that we plan to publish based on KOMET-007. What we anticipate is that there will be, you know, a ramp-up based on incident patients coming forward, probably starting more in the third, fourth line, but we will see and we are starting to see, you know, those second-line patients as well.
Speaker #5: Our expectation is that there'll be a lot of as we said, there's a lot of use likely in the as a monotherapy, but the physicians are very excited about using in combination.
Brian Powl: Our expectation is that there'll be a lot of, you know, as we said, there's a lot of use likely in the, as a monotherapy, but the physicians are very excited about using in combination. It's not something we can promote actively, but we will educate based on publications around the, like the Venclexta publication that we plan to publish based on KOMET-007. What we anticipate is that there will be, you know, a ramp-up based on incident patients coming forward, probably starting more in the third, fourth line, but we will see and we are starting to see, you know, those second-line patients as well.
Speaker #5: It's not something we can promote on actively. But we will educate based on publications around the Beneza publication that we plan to publish in the based on COMED007.
Speaker #5: So what we anticipate is that there will be a ramp-up based on incident patients coming forward, probably starting more in the third, fourth line.
Speaker #5: But we will see, and we are starting to see that in those second-line patients as well. We'll need a little bit of time to really get an understanding as to how COMED50 is being used.
Brian Powl: We'll need a little bit of time to really get an understanding as to how those, how KOMZIFTI is being used in combination relative to monotherapy.
Brian Powl: We'll need a little bit of time to really get an understanding as to how those, how KOMZIFTI is being used in combination relative to monotherapy.
Speaker #5: In combination relative to monotherapy.
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Speaker #4: Hey, great. Thanks for seeing my questions. And if you ask on the quarter, just one question on the duration of therapy. So understanding the early immunes, but any thoughts on duration of therapy for COMED50 so far?
David Dai: Great. Thanks for taking my questions and welcome quarter. Just, you know, one question on the duration of therapy. Understand it's the early innings, but any thoughts on duration of therapy for KOMZIFTI so far? As you are thinking about combination with Venclexta or gilteritinib, how do you think the duration of therapy could evolve over time?
David Dai: Great. Thanks for taking my questions and welcome quarter. Just, you know, one question on the duration of therapy. Understand it's the early innings, but any thoughts on duration of therapy for KOMZIFTI so far? As you are thinking about combination with Venclexta or gilteritinib, how do you think the duration of therapy could evolve over time?
Speaker #4: And as you are thinking about combination with Beneza or galteritinib, how do you think the duration of therapy could evolve over time?
Speaker #5: Great. Thanks, David, for that question. Obviously, we're sharing five weeks of data. We can't really give you a lot of detail around duration of therapy at this point.
Brian Powl: Great. Thanks, David, for that question. Obviously we're sharing 5 weeks of data. We can't really give you a lot of detail around duration of therapy at this point. Our expectation is that patients will be able to get therapy for up to You know, we think an average of 6 months. Our label suggests that patients are treated for up to 6 months to maximize the depth of their response. For those patients who do get a response, we've seen duration of therapy of 5 months, or duration of response of 5 months, and oftentimes it takes 3 months or so for them to get that response, to achieve the deep response. We think that we'll get to... We're not seeing any signs yet because it's too early to see.
Brian Powl: Great. Thanks, David, for that question. Obviously we're sharing 5 weeks of data. We can't really give you a lot of detail around duration of therapy at this point. Our expectation is that patients will be able to get therapy for up to You know, we think an average of 6 months. Our label suggests that patients are treated for up to 6 months to maximize the depth of their response. For those patients who do get a response, we've seen duration of therapy of 5 months, or duration of response of 5 months, and oftentimes it takes 3 months or so for them to get that response, to achieve the deep response. We think that we'll get to... We're not seeing any signs yet because it's too early to see.
Speaker #5: Our expectation is that patients will be able to get therapy for up to we think an average of six months. Our label suggests that patients are treated for up to six months to maximize the depth of their response.
Speaker #5: And for those patients who do get a response, we've seen duration of therapy of five months, or duration of response of five months. And oftentimes, it takes three months or so for them to get that response, to achieve the deep response.
Speaker #5: So we think that we'll get to we're not seeing any signs yet because it's too early to see we are seeing repeat prescriptions but it's too early to talk through any duration right now.
Brian Powl: We are seeing repeat prescriptions, but it's too early to talk through any duration right now. To your question around FLT3 inhibitors, I think that any combination is expected to give a longer duration of treatment than you would expect as a monotherapy.
Brian Powl: We are seeing repeat prescriptions, but it's too early to talk through any duration right now. To your question around FLT3 inhibitors, I think that any combination is expected to give a longer duration of treatment than you would expect as a monotherapy.
Speaker #5: To your question around FLIP3 inhibitors, I think that any combination is expected to give a longer duration of treatment than you would expect as a monotherapy.
Speaker #1: There are no more questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call over to Troy Wilson for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no more questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call over to Troy Wilson for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no more questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call over to Troy Wilson for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Abigail. Thanks, everyone, for joining the call today. And thanks for all the questions. We will see many of you next week in Miami.
Brian Powl: Thank you, Abigail. Thanks everyone for joining the call today, and thanks for all the questions. We will see many of you next week in Miami, at the various events and conferences. If you have any additional questions, please reach out to Greg or me. We wish all of you a good morning and a good rest of the day. Thanks again.
Brian Powl: Thank you, Abigail. Thanks everyone for joining the call today, and thanks for all the questions. We will see many of you next week in Miami, at the various events and conferences. If you have any additional questions, please reach out to Greg or me. We wish all of you a good morning and a good rest of the day. Thanks again.
Speaker #4: At the various events and conferences. If you have any additional questions, please reach out to Greg or me. And we wish all of you a good morning and a good rest of the day.