Q4 2025 Ideal Power Inc Earnings Call

March 10, 2026

Speaker #1: Good morning , ladies and gentlemen , and welcome to the Ideal Power Inc. fourth quarter and full year 2025 results conference call At this time , all participants are in a listen only mode At the end of management's remarks , there will be a question and answer session Investors can submit their questions any time within the meeting webcast by typing them into the Q&A button on the left side of your viewing screen Analysts who published research may ask questions on the phone line for analysts to ask questions on the phone line , please press star one on your telephone keypad .

Speaker #1: As a reminder , this event is being recorded . I will now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Christensen . Please go ahead .

Jeff Christensen: Thank you, Holly, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining Ideal Power's Q4 and full year 2025 results conference call. On the call with me are David Somo, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Tim Burns, Chief Financial Officer. Ideal Power's Q4 and full year 2025 results press release is available on the company's website at idealpower.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made on the call and webcast, including those regarding future financial results and company prospects, are forward-looking and may be subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in the call. Please refer to the company's SEC filings for a list of associated risks. We would also refer you to the company's website for more supporting company information.

Speaker #2: Thank you , Holly , and good morning everyone . Thank you for joining Ideal Power Inc. fourth quarter and full year 2020 results conference call On the call with me are David Somo President and Chief Executive Officer and Tim Burns , chief Financial officer Ideal Power Inc. fourth quarter and full year 2025 results press release is available on the company's website at Ideal Power Inc. .

Speaker #2: Com . Before we begin , I'd like to remind everyone that statements made on the call and webcast , including those regarding future financial results and company prospects , are forward looking and may be subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in the call .

Speaker #2: Please refer to the company's SEC filings for a list of associated risks . We would also refer you to the company's website for more supporting company information .

Jeff Christensen: Now I'll turn the call over to Ideal Power's President and Chief Executive Officer. David?

Speaker #2: Now I'll turn the call over to Ideal Power Inc. president and Chief Executive Officer David

David Somo: Thank you, Jeff. I appreciate everyone joining us today. As you know, we laid out our strategy, commercial opportunities, priorities, and expectations on our recent business update webcast call. It's a plan designed to accelerate commercialization and deliver increased value to our shareholders and our customers. Now that we have set out a clear path, our focus is on disciplined execution. I won't repeat what I shared on our business update webcast call. Instead, I'll discuss our progress since the start of Q4. Afterwards, I'll turn things over to Tim to discuss our financial results. We look forward to your questions after our remarks. First, we announced a multi-year strategic cooperation agreement with LASIN for the design, development, and worldwide sales of a portfolio of B-TRAN enabled circuit protection products. Think solid-state circuit breakers, battery disconnect units, and EV contactors.

Speaker #3: Thank you . Jeff . I appreciate everyone joining us today As you know , we laid out our strategy , commercial opportunities , priorities and expectations on our recent business update webcast call .

Speaker #3: It's a plan designed to accelerate commercialization and deliver increased value to our shareholders and our customers . Now that we have set out a clear path .

Speaker #3: Our focus is on disciplined execution. I won't repeat what I shared on our business update webcast call. Instead, I'll discuss our progress since the start of the fourth quarter.

Speaker #3: Afterwards , I'll turn things over to Tim to discuss our financial results . We look forward to your questions after our remarks First , we announced a multi-year strategic cooperation agreement with Lasan for the design , development and worldwide sales of a portfolio of brand enabled circuit protection products , Inc. , Solid-State Circuit Breakers .

Speaker #3: Battery Disconnect units and EV contactors . Their first Vetran enabled solid state circuit breaker is expected to target AI data center customers Other potential products include Scbs for the Intelligent Grid , renewable energy and energy storage systems , and EV charging infrastructure , along with contactors and battery disconnect units for EVs For those of you not familiar with liaison , they are publicly traded leading circuit protection solutions provider and systems integrator in Asia that is becoming increasingly focused on expanding into the North American and European markets Second , we signed a letter of intent with a leading power module manufacturer in Asia to develop and offer a family of Vetran based power modules for sale to their customers This customer already provides portfolio of Igbt and silicon carbide modules .

David Somo: Their first B-TRAN enabled solid-state circuit breaker is expected to target AI data center customers. Other potential products include SSCBs for the intelligent grid, renewable energy, and energy storage systems, and EV charging infrastructure, along with contactors and battery disconnect units for EVs. For those of you not familiar with Littelfuse, they are a publicly traded, leading circuit protection solutions provider and systems integrator in Asia that is becoming increasingly focused on expanding into the North American and European markets. Second, we signed a letter of intent with a leading power module manufacturer in Asia to develop and offer a family of B-TRAN based power modules for sale to their customers. This customer already provides a portfolio of IGBT and silicon carbide modules.

David Somo: They see compelling value in B-TRAN and are interested in developing differentiated and customized B-TRAN enabled solutions due to its inherent competitive advantages in a variety of end use applications. Third, we continue to advance our relationship with Stellantis, including executing on our existing purchase order for custom development and packaged B-TRAN devices for EV applications. We completed the first of five deliverables under this PO in the second half of 2025. We expect to complete the remaining four deliverables by mid-2026. That includes the delivery of custom packaged B-TRAN devices and reference design kits for the testing and evaluation in EV applications. We also remain engaged with Stellantis on a potential development program for EV contactors. Our B-TRAN patent estate continues to grow. Currently, we have 100 issued B-TRAN patents, with 48 of those issued outside of the United States.

Speaker #3: They see compelling value in Vetran and are interested in developing differentiated and customized Vetran enabled solutions . Due to its inherent competitive advantages in a variety of end use applications Third , we continue to advance our relationship with Stellantis , including executing on our existing purchase order for custom development and packaged Vetran devices for EV applications .

Speaker #3: We completed the first of five deliverables under this PO in the second half of 2025. We expect to complete the remaining four deliverables by mid-2026.

Speaker #3: That includes the delivery of custom package B-TRAN devices and reference design kits for testing and evaluation in EV applications. We also remain engaged with Stellantis on a potential development program for EV contactors.

Speaker #3: Our beta patent estate continues to grow Currently , we have 100 issue patents with 48 of those issued outside of the United States .

David Somo: Our patent coverage spans North America, China, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, India, and Europe, all representing our high priority patent coverage geographies. As a result of our continued innovation, our list of pending B-TRAN patents is now at 78. To safeguard our intellectual property further, we treat the proven double-sided wafer process flow we developed to make our devices as a trade secret, and do not disclose the identity of, and work under strict confidentiality with, our wafer fabrication partners. Even if a competitor studied our patents, they wouldn't have the know-how to fabricate the device. In addition, to minimize the potential for infringement, we exclusively work with foundries and packaging houses in countries that have a history of respecting intellectual property rights. I want to close by detailing the strategic priorities for the company. First, continuing to add new opportunities to the sales funnel.

Speaker #3: Our patent coverage spans North America , China , Taiwan , Japan , South Korea , India and Europe . All representing our high priority patent coverage geographies .

Speaker #3: As a result of our continued innovation , our list of pending brand patents is now at 78 . To safeguard our intellectual property Further , we treat the proven double sided wafer process flow we developed to make our devices as a secret and do not disclose the identity of and work under strict confidentiality with our wafer fabrication partners So even if a competitor studied our patents , they wouldn't have the know how to fabricate the device .

Speaker #3: In addition , to minimize the potential for infringement , we exclusively work with foundries and packaging houses and countries that have a history of respecting intellectual property rights .

Speaker #3: I want to close by detailing the strategic priorities for the company First , continuing to add new opportunities to the sales funnel , we have a good start today with nearly 200 million of potential sales opportunities identified , but need to continuously expand the sales funnel with new engagements and opportunities .

David Somo: We have a good start today with nearly 200 million of potential sales opportunities identified, but need to continuously expand the sales funnel with new engagements and opportunities. Our opportunities are global, and we added a sales leader in Asia late last year, and expect to add a sales leader in Europe and a field applications manager in Asia in the near term to support the global commercialization of B-TRAN. Drive initial revenue ramp by converting sales opportunities in the funnel through design-ins and custom development agreements on the earliest possible schedule. It is not just about expanding our sales funnel, it is even more important that we execute and advance qualified opportunities through the funnel to production orders and revenue.

Speaker #3: Our opportunities are global and we added a sales leader in Asia late last year and expect to add a sales leader in Europe and a field applications manager in Asia in the near term to support the global commercialization of Vetran drive .

Speaker #3: Initial revenue ramp by converting sales opportunities in the funnel to design ins and custom development agreements . On the earliest possible schedule It is not just about expanding our sales funnel , it is even more important that we execute and advance qualified opportunities through the funnel to production orders and revenue .

David Somo: Secure production orders with LASIN for their first B-TRAN-enabled solid-state circuit breaker product, and expand our strategic cooperation with LASIN to include solutions to address additional markets and applications. Complete the remaining deliverables under the Stellantis purchase order and continue to advance opportunities for EV contactors and battery disconnect units with Stellantis, other global automakers, and tier one suppliers. Continue exploring strategic investment opportunities with global market leaders. We are engaged with a small number of global market leaders on potential strategic investments. Strategic investors are typically motivated by two factors. First, new and innovative technologies that best solve customer solutions challenges related to market shifts. For example, the transition from AC to 800-volt DC data center power distribution systems.

Speaker #3: Secure production orders with liaison for their first Vetran enabled solid state circuit breaker product and expand our strategic cooperation with liaison to include solutions to address additional markets and applications Complete the remaining deliverables under the purchase order and continue to advance opportunities for EV contactors and battery disconnect units with Stellantis and other global automakers and tier one suppliers Continue exploring strategic investment opportunities with global market leaders .

Speaker #3: We are engaged with a small number of global market leaders on potential strategic investments , strategic investors are typically motivated by two factors .

Speaker #3: First , new and innovative technologies that best solve customer solutions . Challenges related to market shifts for example , the transition from AC to 800 volt DC data center power distribution systems Second , providing additional resources and development support to guide and accelerate the conversion of new commercialization of new technologies that are of significant interest to their business While these investments take time , they offer significant validation and alignment of interest with customers Now , I'd like to hand the call over to Tim Burns to review our Tim

David Somo: Second, providing additional resources and development support to guide and accelerate the commercialization of new technologies that are of significant interest to their business. While these investments take time, they offer significant validation and alignment of interest with customers. Now, I'd like to hand the call over to Tim Burns to review our financials. Tim?

Tim Burns: Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin by summarizing our recent capital raise. We raised $12.6 million in estimated net proceeds from a public offering and concurrent private placement that closed on February 25. The offering included common stock and pre-funded warrants. Pre-funded warrants are common stock equivalents included in a company's weighted average shares outstanding for EPS calculations, but not included in shares outstanding as they do not have voting rights until exercised. For those of you unfamiliar with pre-funded warrants, they are not what you think of when you have to add warrant coverage to a deal. The pre-funded warrants were effectively paid for except for the par value of a fraction of a cent at closing, rather than a sweetener added on top of common stock for little or no additional consideration.

Speaker #4: Thank you . David , and good morning , everyone . I'll begin by summarizing our recent capital raise We raised $12.6 million in estimated net proceeds from a public offering and concurrent private placement to closed on February 25th .

Speaker #4: The offering included common stock and pre-funded warrants . Pre-funded warrants or common stock equivalents included in a company's weighted average shares outstanding for EPs calculations , but not included in shares outstanding as they do not have voting rights until exercised .

Speaker #4: For those of you unfamiliar with Pre-funded warrants , they are not what you think of when you have to add warrant coverage to a deal .

Speaker #4: The Pre-funded warrants were effectively paid for except for the par value of a fraction of a Senate closing . Rather than a sweetener added on top of common stock for little or no additional .

Tim Burns: We are excited that the financing was led by the company's largest existing institutional shareholders, with participation from Ideal Power insiders, including our CEO. The offering strengthened our balance sheet. Post-offering, we still have a clean capital structure and no debt. Our Q4 2025 cash burn was $2.2 million compared to $2.6 million in the Q4 2025, and $2.7 million in the Q3 2025. Our Q4 cash burn was well below our guidance of $2.5 to 2.7 million. Our full year 2025 cash burn was $9.6 million compared to $9.2 million in the full year 2024. Our full year 2025 cash burn was below our guidance of approximately $10 million.

Speaker #4: We are excited that the financing was led by the company's largest existing institutional shareholders , with participation from Ideal Power Inc. insiders , including our CEO .

Speaker #4: The offering strengthened our balance sheet post-offering. We still have a clean capital structure and no debt. Our fourth quarter 2025 cash burn was $2.2 million, compared to $2.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2024.

Speaker #4: And $2.7 million in the third quarter of 2025 . Our Q4 cash burn was well below our guidance of 2.5 to $2.7 million .

Speaker #4: Our full year 2025 cash burn was $9.6 million , compared to $9.2 million in the full year 2020 . For our full year 2025 cash burn was below our guidance of approximately $10 million .

Tim Burns: We continue to manage expenses prudently and aggressively. We expect Q1 2026 cash burn to increase to approximately $2.6 to 2.8 million, with a full year 2026 cash burn of approximately $10.5 million, with the year-over-year increase primarily due to planned 2026 hiring, including expanding the direct sales team, as David had mentioned. This compares to a 2025 cash burn of $9.6 million. Cash and cash equivalents totaled $6.1 million at December 31, 2025, which does not include the $12.6 million of estimated net proceeds from our recent capital raise. We did not record revenue in Q4 2025.

Speaker #4: We continue to manage expenses prudently and aggressively We expect first quarter 2026 cash burn to increase to approximately 2.6 to $2.8 million , with a full year 2026 cash burn of approximately $10.5 million .

Speaker #4: With the year over year increase primarily due to planned 2026 hiring , including expanding the direct sales team , is David had mentioned .

Speaker #4: This compares to a 2025 cash burn of 9.6 million cash and cash equivalents totaled $6.1 million at December 31st , 2025 , which does not include the $12.6 million of estimated net proceeds from our recent capital raise .

Tim Burns: Initial orders from the companies valuing our products for potential inclusion in their OEM products are expected to be small, with order sizes increasing as customers progress through their design cycles, perform product qualification, and build inventory for the commercialization of their B-TRAN based products. Operating expenses were $1.9 million in Q4 2025, compared to $2.8 million in Q4 2024, driven primarily by lower stock-based compensation expense and personnel costs. The lower stock-based compensation included the forfeiture and modification of certain equity awards in connection with the retirement and transition services agreement the company entered into with our prior CEO. Due to the accounting rules around equity award modifications, the company expects significantly higher stock-based compensation in Q1, tapering off in Q2.

Speaker #4: We did not record revenue in the fourth quarter of 2025 . Initial orders from the companies evaluating our products for potential inclusion in their OEM products are expected to be small , with order sizes increasing as customers progress through their design cycles , perform product qualification , and build inventory for the commercialization of their beta based products Operating expenses were $1.9 million in the fourth quarter of 2025 , compared to $2.8 million in the fourth quarter of 2020 .

Speaker #4: Four, driven primarily by lower stock-based compensation expense and personnel costs. The lower stock-based compensation included the forfeiture and modification of certain equity awards in connection with the retirement and Transition Services Agreement.

Speaker #4: The company entered into with Our prior CEO through the accounting rules around Equity Award modifications . The company expects significantly higher stock based compensation in the first quarter , tapering off in the second quarter .

Tim Burns: We continue to expect some quarter-over-quarter variability in operating expenses, particularly our research and development spending, due to the timing of semiconductor fabrication runs, product development, other research and development activities, as well as hiring. The timing of equity grants and related non-cash stock-based compensation expense recognition will also cause variability in our quarterly operating expenses. Net loss in Q4 2025 was $1.9 million compared to $2.6 million in Q4 2024. Net loss in the full year 2025 was $10.6 million compared to $10.4 million in the full year 2024. At the end of December 2025, we had 8,537,387 shares outstanding, and our fully diluted share count was 10,565,023 shares.

Speaker #4: We continue to expect some quarter to quarter variability in operating expenses , particularly our research and development spending , due to the timing of semiconductor fabrication runs , product development , other research and development activities , as well as hiring the timing of equity grants and related non-cash stock based compensation expense recognition will also cause variability in our quarterly operating expenses Net loss in the fourth quarter of 2025 was $1.9 million , compared to $2.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2020 .

Speaker #4: For net loss in the full year , 2025 was $10.6 million , compared to $10.4 million in the full year 2024 . At the end of December 2025 , we had 8,537,387 shares outstanding in our fully diluted share count was 10,565,023 shares .

Tim Burns: Upon closing of our recent capital raise, it is detailed in the final prospectus supplement we filed with the SEC on 25 February. We had 12,089,289 shares outstanding, 2,238,040 pre-funded warrants outstanding, and 1,486,955 stock option and stock units outstanding, for a fully diluted share count of 15,814,384 shares. At this time, I'd like to open up the call for questions. Operator?

Speaker #4: Upon closing of our recent capital raise, and as detailed in the final prospectus supplement we filed with the SEC on February 25th.

Speaker #4: We had 12,089,289 shares outstanding , 2,238,040 Pre-funded warrants outstanding , and 1,486,955 stock , option and stock units outstanding for a fully diluted share count of 15,814,384 shares .

Speaker #4: At this time , I'd like to open up the call for questions . Operator

Operator: Thank you. At this time, we are conducting a question-and-answer session. Investors can submit their questions within the meeting webcast by typing them into the Q&A button on the left side of your viewing screen. Analysts who publish research may ask questions on the phone line. For analysts to ask questions on the phone line, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Please hold while we poll for questions. Your first question for today is from Casey Ryan with WestPark Capital.

Speaker #1: Thank you . At this time , we are conducting a question and answer session Investors can submit their questions within the meeting webcast by typing them into the Q&A button on the left side of your viewing screen Analysts who published research may ask questions on the phone line .

Speaker #1: For analysts to ask questions on the phone line , please press star one on your telephone keypad Please hold while we poll for questions Your first question for today is from Casey Ryan with West Park Capital

Casey Ryan: Hey, good morning, gentlemen. This is a good segue as we exit 25 and look forward to 2026. Tim, thanks for the breakdown on the operating expense line. I think that was gonna be my first question.

Speaker #5: Hey , good morning gentlemen . This is a good segue . As we exit 25 and look forward to 2026 . Tim , thanks for the breakdown on the operating expense line .

Speaker #5: I think that was going to be my first question. You talked about R&D being tied to the production of delivering samples to customers.

Casey Ryan: You talked about R&D being tied to production, you know, sort of delivering samples to customers. What's the view on SG&A? I'm just sort of, you know, thinking up from Q4, but maybe, you know, looking back, typically it's been, you know, $300,000 kind of has been the number. Is that sort of a good range to think about for 2026, or will that also vary quite a bit?

Speaker #5: What's what's the view on SG&A ? And I'm just sort of thinking up from four . Q but maybe , you know , looking back , typically it's been 300,000 kind of has been the number is that sort of a good range to think about for 26 , or will that also vary quite a bit

Tim Burns: Yeah. On a cash basis, it will not vary, right? The only thing that could cause variation really is stock-based compensation expense.

Speaker #4: Yeah , it on a cash basis , it will not vary . Right . So the only thing that could cause variation really is stock based compensation expense .

Casey Ryan: Okay.

Tim Burns: We're expecting actually to keep G&A relatively flat. It may be up low single digits in terms of percent, but our goal is to keep G&A flat year-over-year.

Speaker #4: But we're expecting actually to keep a relatively flat . It may be up single digits in terms of percent . But our goal is to keep you in a flat year over year .

Casey Ryan: Okay, terrific. That's very helpful. You know, I feel like the opportunities with LASIN sound exciting and encouraging for sure. Can you tell us a little bit about if, where they use your product, will that typically be new builds and new products, or is there actually sort of a retrofit and maybe like upgrade and repair kind of opportunity given that it's a better solution than what might already be in the field in some locations?

Speaker #5: Okay . Terrific . That's very helpful . And then , you know , I feel like the opportunities with Lasan sound exciting and encouraging for sure .

Speaker #5: Can you tell us a little bit about if where they use your product , will that typically be new builds and new products , or is there actually sort of a retrofit and maybe upgrade and repair kind of opportunity , given that it's a better solution than what might already be in the field in some locations

David Somo: Yeah. I'll take that one, Casey. LASIN has a portfolio of what are the older style mechanical breakers, and those are deployed in a variety of different applications. They're developing their solid-state circuit breaker portfolio now and building that out, and that's where we have the opportunity to participate in a portfolio of products from them, starting with areas like solid-state circuit breakers and static transfer switches that can go into the first target for them in data centers, and then also renewable energy, battery energy storage systems, and grid applications. That's likely to be the first end markets for their portfolio of the solid-state circuit breakers they're developing, where we have an opportunity to participate with them with B-TRAN.

Speaker #3: Yeah . So I'll take that one . Casey Lasan has a portfolio of what are the older style mechanical breakers , and those are deployed in a variety of different applications .

Speaker #3: They're developing their solid state circuit breaker portfolio now and building that out . And that's where we have the opportunity to participate in a portfolio of products from them , starting with areas like solid state , circuit breakers and static transfer switches that can go into first target for them .

Speaker #3: And data centers , and then also renewable energy . A battery energy storage systems and grid applications . So that's likely to be the first in-market for their portfolio of the solid state circuit breakers .

Speaker #3: They're developing , where we have an opportunity to participate with them , with Vetran .

Casey Ryan: Okay. Just to the extent that you know the process, do you think data centers, when we talk about the transition to the power systems, are those also like greenfield, meaning it's a whole new building? Or is it possible that an existing data center could be fully retrofitted, and so it would be new from the standpoint of how it operates inside its four walls, but maybe its location might not be new?

Speaker #5: Okay . And then just to the extent that , you know , the process Do you think data centers , when we talk about the transition to the power systems , are those also like greenfield , meaning it's a whole new building , or is it possible that an existing data center could be fully retrofitted ?

Speaker #5: And so it would be new from the standpoint of how it operates inside its four walls , but maybe its location might not be new .

David Somo: Yeah. Interesting question because primarily we're focused on new greenfield build-outs, but I also think there are some opportunities for brownfield, particularly as you have data centers stood up that are either 400 volt single-phase AC, three-phase AC, and if they're going to adopt the new NVIDIA platforms which could drive the power distribution systems to 800 volt, then there's a need to replace the infrastructure across the data center. I think.

Speaker #3: Yeah , interesting question , because primarily we're focused on new greenfield build outs . But I also think there are some opportunities for brownfield , particularly as you have data centers stood up that are 400 volt single phase AC , three phase AC .

Speaker #3: And if they're going to adopt the new Nvidia platforms , which drive the power distribution systems to 800 volt , then there is a need to replace the infrastructure across the data center .

Casey Ryan: Right.

David Somo: Both are possible. Certainly greenfield is all new opportunity, and there will likely also be some brownfield.

Speaker #3: So I think both are possible . Certainly Greenfield is all new opportunity and there will likely also be some brownfield

Casey Ryan: Okay. Terrific. I was trying to jot this down, but you mentioned in 2026, you guys have, I think, four or five milestones with Stellantis that you're, you know, planning on achieving, which is terrific. I'm just curious if you could qualify the nature of those. Like, are those, you know, tasks and accomplishments that the Ideal Power team can drive? Or in some cases, are you know, gated because they're dependent on some process over at Stellantis? I'm just wondering how much is in your control, sort of just in terms of we need to execute A, B, C, D.

Speaker #5: Okay , terrific . Terrific . And then I was trying to jot this down . But you mentioned in 2026 you guys have I think 4 or 5 milestones with Stellantis that you're , you know , planning on achieving , which is terrific .

Speaker #5: I'm just curious if you could quantify the nature of are those , you know , tasks and accomplishments that that the ideal power team can drive or in some cases , are you You know , gated because they're dependent on some process over at Stellantis .

Speaker #5: I'm just wondering how much is is in your control , sort of just in terms of we need to execute a , B , C , d .

Tim Burns: Yeah. Overall, there are five deliverables. One of them we completed late last year, so there's four remaining deliverables. Under that PO, it's custom development work, so it's custom packaging for the device. There's two variants of packaging that they want us to deliver, as well as just some reference design kits, so that they can evaluate the technology further in the applications that they're looking at. Those are the four deliverables. They are completely within our control, and we expect to complete those by mid-2026.

Speaker #4: Yeah . So overall , there were five deliverables . One of them we completed late last year . So there's four remaining deliverables under that Po .

Speaker #4: It's custom development work . So it's custom packaging for the device . So there's two variants of packaging that they want us to deliver as well as just some reference design kits .

Speaker #4: So that they can evaluate the technology further in the applications that they're looking at . So those are the four deliverables . They are completely within our control .

Casey Ryan: Yeah. That's terrific, Tim. Thank you. Listen, I think between, you know, today and the update last week, I think we have a good sense of what's possible for 2026. Thanks for the terrific update and, we'll look forward to the rest of the year making progress. Thank you.

Speaker #4: And we expect to complete those by mid 26 .

Speaker #5: Yeah that's a terrific Tim . Thank you . Listen I think between you know today and the update last week I think we have a good sense of what's possible for 26 .

Speaker #5: So thanks for the terrific update . And we'll look forward to the rest of the year making progress . Thank you .

Tim Burns: Thanks. Appreciate it, Casey.

David Somo: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thanks. Appreciate it, Casey.

Speaker #3: Thank you

Operator: I will now turn the call back to Jeff Christensen to read questions submitted through the webcast.

Speaker #1: I will now turn the call back to Jeff Christensen to read questions submitted through the webcast

Jeff Christensen: Thank you, Holly. I wanted to mention that the business update webcast call is available. The link to it is available on our investor relations webpage. I encourage you to watch it. Our first question, gentlemen, is what product development work is still required by Ideal Power to match the product line with customer needs?

Speaker #2: Thank you, Holly. And I wanted to mention that the business update webcast call is available. The link to it is available on our Investor Relations web page.

Speaker #2: I encourage you to watch it. Our first question, gentlemen, is: what product development work is still required by Ideal Power Inc. to match the product line with customer needs?

David Somo: Yeah. Our current B-TRAN product, the first gen product that we have today and have been widely sampling to customers, meets the target applications that we have prioritized for accelerating our commercialization. That includes areas like the solid-state circuit breakers, static transfer switches, EV contactors. There's really no further modifications required at a device level. Where we're spending our time with customers now is really on their specific product development, where we're working with them to incorporate B-TRAN from optimizing drivers in the power supply circuitry to thermal solutions to fit into their enclosures and so forth, working with our device. Really, the products are set for initial applications that we've targeted, and it's more working with the customer through their product development now.

Speaker #3: Yeah . So our current product , the first gen product that we have today and have been widely sampling the customers meets the target applications that we have prioritized for accelerating our commercialization .

Speaker #3: So that includes areas like the solid-state circuit breakers, static transfer switches, and EV contactors. It's really no further modifications required at a device level where we're spending our time with customers.

Speaker #3: Now is really on their specific product development, where we're working with them to incorporate veteran from optimizing drivers in the power supply circuitry to thermal solutions to fit into their enclosures.

Speaker #3: And so forth . Working with our device . So really , the products are are set for initial applications that we've targeted , and it's more working with the customer through their product development .

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. The next submitted question is: What are the main hurdles to closing sizable orders?

Speaker #3: Now

Speaker #2: Thank you . The next question is what are the main hurdles to cross the sizable orders ?

David Somo: Yeah. First and foremost, we need to work with the customers to complete their product development and qualifications. Once they have that, design complete and they've got their qualification package for things like solid-state circuit breakers that they can deliver to their customers, then it's really on our customers to go win the business at their end customers. Getting to those sizable orders requires getting through the product development qualification with our customers, them going to their customers, introducing the products as part of their sales process, and then having the customers adopt those, systems and start the scale-out build.

Speaker #3: Yeah . First and foremost , we need to work with the customers to complete their product development . And . Once they have that design complete and they've got their qualification package for things like solid state , circuit breakers that they can deliver to their customers , then it's really on our customers to go win the business at their end .

Speaker #3: Customers . So getting to those sizable orders requires getting through the product development qualification with our customers , them going to their customers , introducing the products as part of their sales process , and then having the customers adopt those systems and start to scale out builds

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. The next question, on the possible strategic partners, what do these partners need to see in order to make a decision?

Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question is on possible strategic partners. What do these partners need to see in order to make a decision?

David Somo: Yeah. Part of this is they'll need to evaluate and confirm that B-TRAN® advantages can best solve the design challenges that they're seeing in systems requirements. As they consider how to best meet some of the needs of end customers with the systems they're developing, they wanna confirm that B-TRAN® best provides the advantages to solve some of the challenges that they have. That then can move them forward with the strategic partner engagements.

Speaker #3: Yeah, part of this is they'll need to evaluate and confirm that Vetran advantages can best solve the design challenges that they're seeing in systems requirements.

Speaker #3: So as they consider how to best meet some of the needs of end customers with systems , they're developing , they want to confirm that , Betran best provides the advantages to solve some of the challenges that they have , that then can , you know , move them forward with the strategic partner engagements

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. We've had several submitted questions, and we encourage you to click that Ask a Question button. Our next question is: Are there opportunities for NRE revenue in 2026?

Speaker #2: Thank you . We've had several submitted questions , and we encourage you to click that ask a question button . Our next question there opportunities for NRE revenue in 2026 ?

David Somo: The short answer is yes on that one. As we work across many different customers and have discussions with them, where there are opportunities for some custom development, similar to what we've done with Stellantis or other customers who may want something either a bit different or want additional engineering support on the development of their products, that would present NRE revenue opportunities for us.

Speaker #3: Short answer is yes, on that one. As we work across many different customers and have discussions with them, where there are opportunities for some custom development similar to what we've done with Stellantis or other customers who may want something a bit different, or want additional engineering support on the development of their products, that would present revenue opportunities for us.

Jeff Christensen: Thanks. What Ideal Power solutions will drive the earliest revenue?

Speaker #2: Thanks. What Ideal Power solutions will drive the earliest revenue?

David Somo: Yeah. Here again, if I look at it from a product perspective, it'll be things like solid-state circuit breakers and static transfer switches that are used in markets that adopt new technologies faster. It'd be data center, battery energy storage systems, and grid applications is where we see the first opportunities and earliest revenue potential for B-TRAN®-based products.

Speaker #3: Yeah . Here again , if I look at it from a product perspective , it'll be things like solid state , circuit breakers and static transfer switches that are used in markets that adopt new technologies faster .

Speaker #3: So it'd be data center , battery , energy storage systems and grid applications is where we see the first opportunities and earliest revenue potential for detran based products

Jeff Christensen: Thanks. Please comment on your plans to expand the sales funnel.

Speaker #2: Thanks. Please comment on your plans to expand the sales funnel.

David Somo: Okay. Well, two approaches here. The first, as you heard during the prepared remarks, we're expanding and investing in our own sales resources here. Late last year, we added a sales leader in Asia. We now are adding an applications engineering manager there, so that is able to sit in the lab with customers to help them accelerate their product development and new customers evaluate B-TRAN® for their potential products. The second area is really leaning into our distributor network, where we're putting new tools in place that can help them sell B-TRAN® and actually some programs that will incentivize them to go out and get design ins, design wins, and customer evaluations with our products. That'll help us fill the top of the funnel. I mean, in fact, in our funnel today is more than 100 different opportunities that we're vetting.

Speaker #3: Okay . Well , two approaches here . The first is you heard during the prepared remarks , we're expanding and investing in our own sales resources here .

Speaker #3: So late last year, we added a sales leader in Asia. We now are adding an applications engineering manager there, so that is able to sit in the lab with customers to help them accelerate their product development.

Speaker #3: And new customers . Evaluate Betran for their potential products . The second area is really leaning into our distributor network , where we're putting new tools in place that can help them sell B Tran and actually some programs that will incentivize them to go out and get design ins and design wins and customer evaluations with our products .

Speaker #3: So that'll help us fill the top of the funnel . And in fact , not in our funnel . Today is more than 100 different opportunities that we're vetting .

David Somo: Once qualified, I would expect many of those to move into the funnel.

Speaker #3: And once qualified , I would expect many of those to move into the funnel

Jeff Christensen: What are the company's plans to shorten the prospect sales cycle?

Speaker #2: What are the company's plans to shorten the prospect sales cycle?

David Somo: Yeah. Really because B-TRAN® is a new technology and different from conventional solutions that customers understand well, like IGBTs, silicon carbide, and FETs, we need to help the customers both evaluate our products for their systems and then accelerate product development where we have a different, power supplier driving structure for the devices. The first is reference design kits. We continue to work on optimized reference design kits that serve as a very good point for customers to start their design and accelerate their product development by doing a good part of the work for them, specific to the B-TRAN® subsystem of their end-product. The second is use our applications engineering resources here within the company.

Speaker #3: It really because Beltran is a new technology and different from conventional solutions that customers understand well , like Igbts and silicon carbide FETs , we need to help the customers both evaluate our products for their systems and then accelerate product development , where we have a different power supply or driving structure for the devices .

Speaker #3: So the first is reference design kits . We continue to work on optimize reference design kits that serve as a very good point for customers to start their design and accelerate their product development by doing a good part of the work for them .

Speaker #3: Specific to the B Tran subsystem of their products , the second is use our applications engineering resources here within the company as customers get into their product development and have questions , we're providing direct support to them through our engineering team with applications , notes as well as supporting them on calls or as needed .

David Somo: As customers get into their product development and have questions, we're providing direct support to them through our engineering team with applications notes, as well as supporting them on calls or as needed, sitting in the lab with them. Then the final area is leverage our distributors. We work with distributors like Richardson Electronics that has significant experience in the power industry. They actually build power systems as well as sell components, and so they have a technical sales organization and field apps engineers that can help customers understand how to develop with our B-TRAN® products.

Speaker #3: Sitting in the lab with them . And then the final area is leverage . Our distributors . We work with distributors like Richardson Electronics that has significant experience in the power industry .

Speaker #3: They actually build power systems as well as cell components , and so they have a technical sales organization and field apps . Engineers that can help customers understand how to develop with our Vetran products

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. We've had again continue to get questions submitted. We encourage you to click that Ask a Question button. The next submitted question is: Will LASIN manufacture the product? What's the thinking on that and relative to the company has talked about licensing the technology?

Speaker #2: Thank you Again , continue to get questions submitted . We encourage you to click that ask a Question button . The next submitted question is will Larson manufacture the product ?

Speaker #2: What's your what's the thinking on that . And and relative to the company has talked about licensing the technology .

David Somo: Yeah. I would expect LASIN and other similar customers to really be on a purchase order relationship, potentially over time, maybe a longer-term supply agreement. That would be buying products manufactured by Ideal Power. Where it may come up from a licensing perspective is as we deal with large multinational customers that typically want to ensure there's multi-source or reduce the risk in their supply chain. That's where we would be open to consider a licensing agreement, with either, if we should be unable to supply for whatever reason, gives the customer confidence that they can have the product manufactured for them, either by themselves or somebody else.

Speaker #3: Yes . So I would expect Lasan and other similar customers to really be on a purchase order relationship potentially over time , maybe a longer term supply agreement , but that would be buying products manufactured by Ideal Power , where it may come up from a licensing perspective as as we deal with large multinational customers that typically want to ensure there's multi-source or reduce the risk in their supply chain , and that's where we would be open to consider a licensing agreement with either if we should be unable to supply , for whatever reason , gives the customer confidence that they can have the product manufactured for them , either by themselves or somebody else .

David Somo: Certainly, in that scenario, were it to come about, while we're open to licensing, I would want to maintain a favorable position there and kinda have first right of supply.

Speaker #3: But certainly in those in that scenario where it come about , while we're open to licensing , I would want to maintain a favorable position there and kind of first right of supply

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. Any update on the automotive qualification testing?

Speaker #2: Thank you Any any update on the automotive qualification testing

David Somo: What we've said is that we expect to complete the automotive reliability testing by this summer, and I believe we're on track to do that.

Speaker #3: What we've said is that we expect to complete the automotive reliability testing by this summer . And I believe we're on track to do that

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. Why is B-TRAN® bidirectional such an important advantage?

Speaker #2: Thank you. Why is 'better than bidirectional' such an important advantage?

David Somo: Yeah, two different scenarios I'll describe here. One is you think about in the context of battery energy storage systems or EVs, where you have a battery system that's both discharging and then charging again. You have to conduct current in both directions. That's an obvious advantage where the system has to be bidirectional. If you look at particularly the new 800-volt distribution systems and data centers, here you get into a situation where the current doesn't cross zero like it does in AC-based systems. Without trying to make this too technical, what it means is when you have constant current and voltage, when fault conditions arise, current can actually be caused to flow backwards in both directions.

Speaker #3: Yeah . Two different scenarios . I'll describe here . One is you think about in the context of battery energy storage systems or EVs , where you have battery system that's both discharging .

Speaker #3: And then charging. Again, you have to conduct current in both directions. So that's an obvious advantage where the system has to be bidirectional.

Speaker #3: Then if you look at particularly the new 800 volt distribution systems and data centers here , you get into a situation where you'd never the current doesn't cross zero like it does in AC based systems .

Speaker #3: And without trying to make this too technical , what it means is , as when you have constant current and voltage , when fault conditions arise , current can actually be caused to flow backwards in both directions .

David Somo: You want to be able to ensure that you can identify where that's happening, be able to contain it, and be able to control how that ripples through the system. From that perspective, it's something referred to as selectivity inside the 800-volt power distribution system. You need to have bidirectional capabilities in the circuit protection systems.

Speaker #3: And so you want to be able to ensure that you can identify where that's happening , be able to contain it and be able to control how that ripples through the system .

Speaker #3: So from that perspective , it's something they call referred to as selectivity . Inside the 800 volt power distribution system , you need to have bidirectional capabilities in the circuit protection system

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. What are your thoughts on the recent announcement of Stellantis sharing more electric vehicle technology with Leapmotor of China, and will that have any effect on your relationship, either positive or negative?

Speaker #2: Thank you . What are your thoughts on the recent announcement of Stellantis sharing more electric vehicle technology with Leap Motor of China , and will that have any effect on your relationship , either positive or negative ?

David Somo: No, I think it could be a positive for Ideal Power. We've, for some time now, worked closely with Stellantis. As Tim mentioned in his comments, we're preparing a custom package of devices for their evaluation and EV platforms, as well as working with them towards an EV contactor program. To the extent that they would be sharing some of that technology, would open up a bigger market opportunity for us out of the same investment in the design and development of the product.

Speaker #3: No , I think it could be a positive for ideal power . We've for some time now worked closely with Stellantis as Kim mentioned in his comments , were preparing a custom package devices for their evaluation , and EV platforms , as well as working with them towards an EV contactor program .

Speaker #3: So, to the extent that they would be sharing some of that technology, it would open up a bigger market opportunity for us out of the same investment in the design and development of the products.

Jeff Christensen: Thanks. In the Stellantis program, or any other vehicle EV program, how do you think about will it be one model, multiple models of vehicles? How do you think about it? How should investors think about that?

Speaker #2: Thanks . And then the Stellantis program , or any other vehicle , EV , EV program . How do you think about will it be one model , multiple models of vehicles ?

David Somo: Yeah, the automotive companies rarely invest in a technology to build for one model. They typically wanna take it across multiple models to get the economies of their investment, economies of scale there. Our expectation would be with any of the automotive OEMs or tier ones considering our product if we're successful in them adopting B-TRAN®, that it would play across more of their EV fleet, multiple models as opposed to just a single model.

Speaker #2: How do you think about how should investors think about that

Speaker #3: Yeah, the automotive companies rarely invest in a technology to build for one model. They typically want to take it across multiple models to get the economies of their investment.

Speaker #3: Economies of scale there . And so our expectation would be with any of the automotive OEMs or tier ones , considering our product , that are they if we're successful in them adopting Betran that it would play across more of their EV fleet , multiple models as opposed to just a single model .

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. Are there a couple of milestones that Ideal Power will achieve with the recent capital raise?

Speaker #2: Thank you Are there a couple of milestones that idle power will achieve with the recent capital raise

David Somo: Yeah, I think, primarily it's to expand and accelerate the commercialization of B-TRAN® and our sales initiatives in support of it. I mentioned the new hires that we're bringing on board, sales leader in Europe, an applications manager in Asia, and then to engage and ensure we're getting our unfair share of mind at our distributors as a smaller company with design evaluation, design in, and design win registration programs that we can fund to really have the distributors excited about selling our products. It's focusing both our internal resources and our distributor network on accelerating B-TRAN® commercialization.

Speaker #3: Yeah , I think primarily it's to expand and accelerate the commercialization of Bran and our sales initiatives in support of it . So I mentioned the new hires that we're bringing on board Sales leader in Europe , and applications manager in Asia .

Speaker #3: And then to engage and ensure we're getting our unfair share of mind at our distributors as a smaller company with a design evaluation design in design , win registration programs that we can fund to really have the distributors excited about selling our products .

Speaker #3: So it's focusing both our internal resources and our distributor network on accelerating VETRAN commercialization.

Jeff Christensen: Thank you. That concludes our question and answer session. I'd like now to turn the call over to David for closing remarks.

Speaker #2: Thank you. That concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd now like to turn the call over to David for closing remarks.

David Somo: Okay. I just wanna thank everyone who joined the call with us today and appreciate the questions. We are committed to executing on our plan and sharing our progress as we move forward. Operator, you may end the call.

Speaker #3: I just want to thank everyone who joined the call with us today and appreciate the questions. We are committed to executing on our plan and sharing our progress as we move forward.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. All parties may disconnect and have a great day.

Speaker #3: So, operator, you may end the call.

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