Q4 2025 K-Bro Linen Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #2: Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time during this call you need assistance, please press star 0 for the operator.
Speaker #2: This call is being recorded on Friday, March 20, 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Christy Plaquin. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today, and welcome to our fourth quarter and annual results conference call. On the line with me today is Linda McCurdy, president and chief executive officer.
Kristie Plaquin: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today, and welcome to our Q4 and Annual Results Conference Call. On the line with me today is Linda McCurdy, President and Chief Executive Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made during our prepared remarks for the conference with reference to management's expectations or predictions of the future are forward-looking statements. All statements made today, which are not statements of historical fact, are considered to be forward-looking. Certain material factors or assumptions were applied in drawing a conclusion or making a forecast or projection as reflected in the forward-looking information. Investors are also cautioned not to place undue reliance on these statements. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated.
Kristie Plaquin: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today, and welcome to our Q4 and Annual Results Conference Call. On the line with me today is Linda McCurdy, President and Chief Executive Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made during our prepared remarks for the conference with reference to management's expectations or predictions of the future are forward-looking statements. All statements made today, which are not statements of historical fact, are considered to be forward-looking. Certain material factors or assumptions were applied in drawing a conclusion or making a forecast or projection as reflected in the forward-looking information. Investors are also cautioned not to place undue reliance on these statements. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, I’d like to remind everyone that statements made during our prepared remarks to the conference, with reference to management’s expectations or predictions of the future, are forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: All statements made today, which are not statements of historical fact, are considered to be forward-looking. Certain material factors or assumptions were applied in drawing a conclusion or making a forecast or projection, as reflected in the forward-looking information.
Speaker #2: Investors are also cautioned not to place undue reliance on these statements. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated. Risk factors that could affect the results are detailed in the corporation's public filings.
Kristie Plaquin: Risk factors that could affect the results are detailed in the corporation's public filings. I'll now turn the call over to our CEO, Linda McCurdy, who will provide her insights and remarks on the quarter. Linda?
Kristie Plaquin: Risk factors that could affect the results are detailed in the corporation's public filings. I'll now turn the call over to our CEO, Linda McCurdy, who will provide her insights and remarks on the quarter. Linda?
Speaker #2: I'll now turn the call over to our CEO, Linda McCurdy, who will provide her insights and remarks on the quarter. Linda?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Christy. Good morning to everyone, and thank you for joining us today to review our 2025 fourth quarter and annual results. I will focus on the main highlights of the quarter, and Christy will provide more details of our financial performance and the balance sheet.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you, Kristie. Good morning to everyone, and thank you for joining us today, to review our 2025 Q4 and annual results. I will focus on the main highlights of the quarter, and Kristie will provide more details of our financial performance and the balance sheet. Overall, we are delighted to have reported record results for 2025, with revenue of CAD 507 million and adjusted EBITDA of CAD 99 million for the year. We are an essential service provider to our healthcare and hospitality customers, and our results are the product of our disciplined, proven growth strategy. Q4 marks our seventh consecutive quarter of record results and includes the early contributions from Stellar Mayan. Stellar is highly complementary to our existing UK businesses, Fishers and Shortridge, and creates a top-three national UK healthcare and hospitality platform.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you, Kristie. Good morning to everyone, and thank you for joining us today, to review our 2025 Q4 and annual results. I will focus on the main highlights of the quarter, and Kristie will provide more details of our financial performance and the balance sheet. Overall, we are delighted to have reported record results for 2025, with revenue of CAD 507 million and adjusted EBITDA of CAD 99 million for the year. We are an essential service provider to our healthcare and hospitality customers, and our results are the product of our disciplined, proven growth strategy. Q4 marks our seventh consecutive quarter of record results and includes the early contributions from Stellar Mayan. Stellar is highly complementary to our existing UK businesses, Fishers and Shortridge, and creates a top-three national UK healthcare and hospitality platform.
Speaker #3: So, overall, we are delighted to have reported record results for 2025, with revenue of $507 million and adjusted EBITDA of $99 million for the year.
Speaker #3: We are an essential service provider to our healthcare and hospitality customers, and our results are the product of our disciplined, proven growth strategy. Q4 marks our seventh consecutive quarter of record results, and includes the early contributions from Stellar Mayan.
Speaker #3: Stellar is highly complementary to our existing UK businesses, Fishers and Shorebridge, and creates a top-three national UK healthcare and hospitality platform. We're pleased with the progress of our ongoing integration efforts, as we work towards optimizing our local and national footprints and positioning K-Bro for long-term growth.
Linda McCurdy: We're pleased with the progress of our ongoing integration efforts, and we work towards optimizing our local and national footprints and positioning K-Bro for long-term growth. From a revenue perspective for the year, it increased by 36% compared to 2024, with healthcare revenue having increased by 41% and hospitality revenue increasing by 30%. Healthcare revenues represented approximately 58% of consolidated revenues, which is higher compared to 53% in 2024. This is due mainly to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan and the annualization of C.M. Strategic acquisitions of high-quality operators with leading market positions in key regions continue to be an important contributor to K-Bro's overall growth profile. 2025 was a record year for K-Bro, and we're excited about our future.
Linda McCurdy: We're pleased with the progress of our ongoing integration efforts, and we work towards optimizing our local and national footprints and positioning K-Bro for long-term growth. From a revenue perspective for the year, it increased by 36% compared to 2024, with healthcare revenue having increased by 41% and hospitality revenue increasing by 30%. Healthcare revenues represented approximately 58% of consolidated revenues, which is higher compared to 53% in 2024. This is due mainly to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan and the annualization of C.M. Strategic acquisitions of high-quality operators with leading market positions in key regions continue to be an important contributor to K-Bro's overall growth profile. 2025 was a record year for K-Bro, and we're excited about our future.
Speaker #3: From a revenue perspective for the year, it increased by 36% compared to 2004, with healthcare revenue having increased by 41%, and hospitality revenue increasing by 30%.
Speaker #3: Healthcare revenues represented approximately 58% of consolidated revenues, which is higher compared to 53% in 2004, and this is due mainly to the acquisition of Stellar and the annualization of CM.
Speaker #3: Strategic acquisitions of high-quality operators with leading market positions in key regions continue to be an important contributor to K-Bro's overall growth profile. 2025 was a record year for K-Bro, and we're excited about our future.
Speaker #3: We have national healthcare and hospitality platforms now in both Canada and the UK, and we're proud of our diverse and talented team of over 4,500 employees and our culture that puts people first, supports our partners, and embraces environmental stewardship.
Linda McCurdy: We have national healthcare and hospitality platforms now in both Canada and the UK, and we're proud of our diverse and talented team of over 4,500 employees and our culture that puts people first, supports our partners, and embraces environmental stewardship. I'll now turn the call over to Kristie to discuss our detailed financial results for the quarter, and then I'll return to talk about the outlook, and answer any Q&A. Kristie, over to you.
Linda McCurdy: We have national healthcare and hospitality platforms now in both Canada and the UK, and we're proud of our diverse and talented team of over 4,500 employees and our culture that puts people first, supports our partners, and embraces environmental stewardship. I'll now turn the call over to Kristie to discuss our detailed financial results for the quarter, and then I'll return to talk about the outlook, and answer any Q&A. Kristie, over to you.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn the call over to Christy to discuss our detailed financial results for the quarter, and then I'll return to talk about the outlook and answer any Q&A.
Speaker #3: Christy, over to you.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Linda. The information we are discussing today is also highlighted in our 2025 fourth quarter earnings press release issued yesterday, and detailed supplemental financial information can be found on our investor relations website under the heading 'Financials.'
Kristie Plaquin: Thanks, Linda. The information we are discussing today is also highlighted in our 2025 Q4 earnings press release issued yesterday, and detailed supplemental financial information can be found on our investor relations website under the heading Financials. For the year ended 31 December 2025, K-Bro's consolidated revenue increased approximately 36% to CAD 506.8 million, compared to CAD 373.6 million in the comparative year of 2024. This increase is primarily due to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan in June 2025 and the acquisition of Shortridge and CM during Q2 2024, as well as the impact of price increases implemented. As we discussed in previous quarters, when reporting adjusted EBITDA, we've revised our adjusting items to reflect certain amounts which are not indicative of ongoing operating performance.
Kristie Plaquin: Thanks, Linda. The information we are discussing today is also highlighted in our 2025 Q4 earnings press release issued yesterday, and detailed supplemental financial information can be found on our investor relations website under the heading Financials. For the year ended 31 December 2025, K-Bro's consolidated revenue increased approximately 36% to CAD 506.8 million, compared to CAD 373.6 million in the comparative year of 2024. This increase is primarily due to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan in June 2025 and the acquisition of Shortridge and CM during Q2 2024, as well as the impact of price increases implemented. As we discussed in previous quarters, when reporting adjusted EBITDA, we've revised our adjusting items to reflect certain amounts which are not indicative of ongoing operating performance.
Speaker #2: For the year ended December 31, 2025, K-Bro's consolidated revenue increased approximately 36% to $506.8 million, compared to $373.6 million in the comparative quarter of 2024.
Speaker #2: This increase is primarily due to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan in June 2025 and the acquisition of Shorebridge and CM during Q2 2024, as well as the impact of price increases implemented.
Speaker #2: As we discussed in previous quarters, when reporting adjusted EBITDA, we've revised our adjusting items to reflect certain amounts which are not indicative of ongoing operating performance.
Speaker #2: This includes transaction costs, structural financing costs, transition and integration costs, as well as gains and losses on the settlements of contingent consideration, and any other non-recurring transactions as defined within our MD&A.
Kristie Plaquin: This includes transaction costs, structural financing costs, transition and integration costs, as well as gains and losses on the settlements of contingent consideration and any other non-recurring transactions as defined within our MD&A. We believe Adjusted EBITDA will assist investors to assess our performance on a consistent basis, and details of the calculations and adjustments can be found in our MD&A under the section Terminology. Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA increased in 2025 to CAD 98.7 million, or by 36.9% compared to CAD 72.1 million in 2024. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased from 19.3% in 2024 to 19.5% in 2025.
Kristie Plaquin: This includes transaction costs, structural financing costs, transition and integration costs, as well as gains and losses on the settlements of contingent consideration and any other non-recurring transactions as defined within our MD&A. We believe Adjusted EBITDA will assist investors to assess our performance on a consistent basis, and details of the calculations and adjustments can be found in our MD&A under the section Terminology. Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA increased in 2025 to CAD 98.7 million, or by 36.9% compared to CAD 72.1 million in 2024. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased from 19.3% in 2024 to 19.5% in 2025.
Speaker #2: We believe adjusted EBITDA will assist investors to assess our performance on a consistent basis, and details of the calculations and adjustments can be found in our MD&A under the section Terminology.
Speaker #2: Consolidated adjusted EBITDA increased in 2025 to $98.7 million or by 36.9% compared to $72.1 million in 2024. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased from $19.3% in 2024 to $19.5% in 2025.
Speaker #2: The increase in adjusted EBITDA margin is largely due to labor efficiencies, the elimination of the Canadian carbon tax in 2025, and lower gas costs in the UK market, offset by the combination of the lower Stellar Mayan margin profile.
Kristie Plaquin: The increase in Adjusted EBITDA margin is largely due to labor efficiencies, the elimination of the Canadian carbon tax in 2025, and lower gas costs in the UK market, offset by the lower Stellar Mayan's profit margin profile. Consolidated EBITDA increased in 2025 to CAD 90.9 million, or by 31.7% compared to CAD 69 million in 2024. On a consolidated basis, EBITDA margin decreased from 18.5% in 2024 to 17.9% in 2025. The decrease in EBITDA margin is due to the lower Stellar Mayan's margin profile, as well as adjusting items in the year related to the Stellar transaction and transition costs. For the Canadian segment, the adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 20.6% in 2025 compared to 19.1% in 2024.
Kristie Plaquin: The increase in Adjusted EBITDA margin is largely due to labor efficiencies, the elimination of the Canadian carbon tax in 2025, and lower gas costs in the UK market, offset by the lower Stellar Mayan's profit margin profile. Consolidated EBITDA increased in 2025 to CAD 90.9 million, or by 31.7% compared to CAD 69 million in 2024. On a consolidated basis, EBITDA margin decreased from 18.5% in 2024 to 17.9% in 2025. The decrease in EBITDA margin is due to the lower Stellar Mayan's margin profile, as well as adjusting items in the year related to the Stellar transaction and transition costs. For the Canadian segment, the adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 20.6% in 2025 compared to 19.1% in 2024.
Speaker #2: Consolidated EBITDA increased in 2025 to $90.9 million, or by 31.7%, compared to $69.0 million in 2024. On a consolidated basis, EBITDA margin decreased from 18.5% in 2024 to 17.9% in 2025.
Speaker #2: The decrease in EBITDA margin is due to the combination of the lower Stellar Mayan margin profile, as well as adjusting items in the year related to the Stellar transaction and transition costs.
Speaker #2: For the Canadian segment, the adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 20.6% in 2025 compared to 19.1% in 2024. The increase in adjusted EBITDA margin was largely due to labor efficiencies, as well as the elimination of the carbon tax, which I mentioned earlier.
Kristie Plaquin: The increase in Adjusted EBITDA margin was largely due to labor efficiencies as well as the elimination of the carbon tax, which I mentioned earlier. EBITDA margin increased to 19.5% in 2025 from 18.1% in 2024. For the UK segment, the Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 18.1% in 2025 from 19.8% in 2024. The decrease is due to the combination of the lower Stellar Mayan margin profile. The EBITDA margin for the UK segment decreased to 15.9% in 2025 from 19.3%.
Kristie Plaquin: The increase in Adjusted EBITDA margin was largely due to labor efficiencies as well as the elimination of the carbon tax, which I mentioned earlier. EBITDA margin increased to 19.5% in 2025 from 18.1% in 2024. For the UK segment, the Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 18.1% in 2025 from 19.8% in 2024. The decrease is due to the combination of the lower Stellar Mayan margin profile. The EBITDA margin for the UK segment decreased to 15.9% in 2025 from 19.3%.
Speaker #2: EBITDA margin increased to 19.5% in 2025 from 18.1% in 2024. For the UK segment, the adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 18.1% in 2025 from 19.8% in 2024.
Speaker #2: The decrease is due to the combination of the lower Stellar Mayan margin profile. The EBITDA margin for the UK segment decreased to 15.9% in 2025 from 19.3%.
Speaker #2: The decrease in EBITDA margin is due to the combination of the lower Stellar Mayan margin profile, as well as adjusting items in the quarter related to transition and transaction costs.
Kristie Plaquin: The decrease in EBITDA margin is due to the combination of the lower Stellar Mayan margin profile, as well as adjusting items in the quarter related to transition and transaction costs. Adjusted net earnings increased in the year to CAD 30.4 million from CAD 21.7 million in 2024. Adjusting items in the year included transaction costs, transition costs, structural financing costs, non-recurring gains, and contingent income tax provisions, as well as intangible asset amortization related to the acquisition of Stellar. Without adjusting items, net earnings decreased by CAD 0.7 million in 2025 from CAD 18.7 million in 2024 to CAD 18 million in 2025. The decrease in net earnings is primarily related to higher interest costs due to increased borrowing related to acquisitions, increased amortization and depreciation due to the Stellar Mayan, Shortridge, and CM assets acquired, as well as the adjusting items.
Kristie Plaquin: The decrease in EBITDA margin is due to the combination of the lower Stellar Mayan margin profile, as well as adjusting items in the quarter related to transition and transaction costs. Adjusted net earnings increased in the year to CAD 30.4 million from CAD 21.7 million in 2024. Adjusting items in the year included transaction costs, transition costs, structural financing costs, non-recurring gains, and contingent income tax provisions, as well as intangible asset amortization related to the acquisition of Stellar. Without adjusting items, net earnings decreased by CAD 0.7 million in 2025 from CAD 18.7 million in 2024 to CAD 18 million in 2025. The decrease in net earnings is primarily related to higher interest costs due to increased borrowing related to acquisitions, increased amortization and depreciation due to the Stellar Mayan, Shortridge, and CM assets acquired, as well as the adjusting items.
Speaker #2: Adjusted net earnings increased in the year to $30.4 million from $21.7 million in 2024. Adjusting items in the year included transaction costs, transition costs, structural financing costs, non-recurring gains, and contingent income tax provisions, as well as intangible asset amortization related to the acquisition of Stellar.
Speaker #2: Without adjusting items, net earnings decreased by $0.7 million in 2025, from $18.7 million in 2024 to $18 million in 2025. The decrease in net earnings is primarily related to higher interest costs due to increased borrowing related to acquisitions, increased amortization and depreciation due to the Stellar, Mayan, Shorebridge, and CM assets acquired, as well as the adjusting items.
Speaker #2: Wages and benefits for the year increased by $54 million to $196.2 million, compared to $142.2 million in the comparative period of 2024. And as a percentage of revenue, increased by 0.6 percentage points to 38.7%.
Kristie Plaquin: Wages and benefits for the year increased by CAD 54 million to CAD 196.2 million compared to CAD 142.2 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue increased by 0.6 percentage points to 38.7%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure. Linen for the year increased by CAD 13.7 million compared to CAD 36.2 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue remained relatively constant at 9.8%.
Kristie Plaquin: Wages and benefits for the year increased by CAD 54 million to CAD 196.2 million compared to CAD 142.2 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue increased by 0.6 percentage points to 38.7%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure. Linen for the year increased by CAD 13.7 million compared to CAD 36.2 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue remained relatively constant at 9.8%.
Speaker #2: The increase in percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure. Linen, for the year, increased by $13.7 million compared to $36.2 million in the comparative period of 2024.
Speaker #2: And, as a percentage of revenue, remained relatively constant at 9.8%. Utilities for the year increased by $4.3 million to $32.2 million, compared to $27.9 million in the comparative period of 2024.
Kristie Plaquin: Utilities for the year increased by CAD 4.3 million to CAD 32.2 million compared to CAD 27.9 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue decreased by 1.1 percentage point to 6.4%. The decrease as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to lower gas costs in the UK market and the elimination of the Canadian carbon tax in Canada in Q2 of 2025. Delivery for the year increased by CAD 13.6 million to CAD 58.3 million compared to CAD 44.7 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue decreased by 0.5 percentage points to 11.5%. The decrease as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure, delivery route optimization, and lower fuel prices in Canada.
Kristie Plaquin: Utilities for the year increased by CAD 4.3 million to CAD 32.2 million compared to CAD 27.9 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue decreased by 1.1 percentage point to 6.4%. The decrease as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to lower gas costs in the UK market and the elimination of the Canadian carbon tax in Canada in Q2 of 2025. Delivery for the year increased by CAD 13.6 million to CAD 58.3 million compared to CAD 44.7 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue decreased by 0.5 percentage points to 11.5%. The decrease as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure, delivery route optimization, and lower fuel prices in Canada.
Speaker #2: And as a percentage of revenue, decreased by 1.1 percentage points to 6.4%. The decrease as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to lower gas costs in the UK market and the elimination of the Canadian carbon tax in Canada in Q2 of 2025.
Speaker #2: Delivery for the year increased by $13.6 million to $58.3 million, compared to $44.7 million in the comparative period of 2024. And as a percentage of revenue, it decreased by 0.5 percentage points to 11.5%.
Speaker #2: The decrease as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure, delivery route optimization, and lower fuel prices in Canada.
Speaker #2: Occupancy cost for the year increased by $4.1 million to $10.5 million, compared to $6.4 million in the comparative period of 2024. And as a percentage of revenue, it increased by 0.4 percentage points to 2.1%.
Kristie Plaquin: Occupancy costs for the year increased by CAD 4.1 to 10.5 million compared to CAD 6.4 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue increased by 0.4 percentage points to 2.1%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to higher facility operating costs and the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure. Materials and supplies for the year increased by CAD 8.9 million to CAD 22.7 million compared to CAD 13.8 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue increased by 0.8 percentage points to 4.5%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure.
Kristie Plaquin: Occupancy costs for the year increased by CAD 4.1 to 10.5 million compared to CAD 6.4 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue increased by 0.4 percentage points to 2.1%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to higher facility operating costs and the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure. Materials and supplies for the year increased by CAD 8.9 million to CAD 22.7 million compared to CAD 13.8 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue increased by 0.8 percentage points to 4.5%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure.
Speaker #2: The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to higher facility operating costs and the combination of the Stellar Mayan cost structure. Materials and supplies for the year increased by $8.9 million to $22.7 million, compared to $13.8 million in the comparative period of 2024.
Speaker #2: And as a percentage of revenue, increased by 0.8 percentage points to 4.5%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to the combination of the Stellar and Mayan cost structure.
Speaker #2: Repairs and maintenance for the year increased by $4.4 million to $20.2 million, compared to $15.8 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue remained consistent.
Kristie Plaquin: Repairs and maintenance for the year increased by CAD 4.4 to 20.2 million compared to CAD 15.8 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue remained consistent. Corporate costs for the year increased by CAD 8.2 to 27.4 million compared to CAD 19.2 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue increased by 0.3 percentage points to 5.4%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to adjusting items which include transaction costs, legal, professional, and consulting fee expenditures related to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan, as well as structural financing costs, higher management share-based compensation, and is partially offset by a non-recurring gain.
Kristie Plaquin: Repairs and maintenance for the year increased by CAD 4.4 to 20.2 million compared to CAD 15.8 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue remained consistent. Corporate costs for the year increased by CAD 8.2 to 27.4 million compared to CAD 19.2 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue increased by 0.3 percentage points to 5.4%. The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to adjusting items which include transaction costs, legal, professional, and consulting fee expenditures related to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan, as well as structural financing costs, higher management share-based compensation, and is partially offset by a non-recurring gain.
Speaker #2: Corporate costs for the year increased by $8.2 million to $27.4 million, compared to $19.2 million in the comparative period of 2024. And as a percentage of revenue, increased by 0.3 percentage points to 5.4%.
Speaker #2: The increase as a percentage of revenue is primarily related to adjusting items, which include transaction costs; legal, professional, and consulting fee expenditures related to the acquisition of Stellar; as well as structural financing costs and higher management share-based compensation, and is partially offset by a non-recurring gain.
Speaker #2: These items are considered to be adjusting items for the purposes of calculating Adjusted EBITDA, Adjusted Net Income, and Adjusted EPS, and are further detailed within the terminology section of the MD&A.
Kristie Plaquin: These items are considered to be adjusting items for the purposes of calculating Adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS, and are further detailed within the terminology section of the MD&A. Other recovery for the year decreased by CAD 0.4 to 1.5 million compared to CAD 1.1 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue remained constant. Other recovery is primarily related to the sale of the Granby facility during Q2 2025. This gain is also an adjusting item for the purposes of calculating Adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS. Now, looking at our capital resources, distributable cash flow for Q4 2025 was CAD 13.5 million and our payout ratio was around 20%.
Kristie Plaquin: These items are considered to be adjusting items for the purposes of calculating Adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS, and are further detailed within the terminology section of the MD&A. Other recovery for the year decreased by CAD 0.4 to 1.5 million compared to CAD 1.1 million in the comparative period of 2024, and as a percentage of revenue remained constant. Other recovery is primarily related to the sale of the Granby facility during Q2 2025. This gain is also an adjusting item for the purposes of calculating Adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS. Now, looking at our capital resources, distributable cash flow for Q4 2025 was CAD 13.5 million and our payout ratio was around 20%.
Speaker #2: Other recovery for the year decreased by $0.4 million to $1.5 million, compared to $1.1 million in the comparative period of 2024. And as a percentage of revenue, it remained constant.
Speaker #2: Other recovery is primarily related to the sale of the ground beef facility during Q2 2025. This gain is also an adjusting item for the purposes of calculating adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS.
Speaker #2: Now, looking at our capital resources, distributable cash flow for the fourth quarter of 2025 was $13.5 million, and our payout ratio was around 20%.
Speaker #2: The company paid out $0.30 per share in dividends during the quarter, for total consideration of $3.9 million. The corporation had net working capital of $90.3 million at the end of December 2025, compared to its working capital position of $54.1 million at the end of December 2024.
Kristie Plaquin: The company paid out 0.3 per share in dividends during the quarter for total consideration of CAD 3.9 million. The corporation had net working capital of CAD 90.3 million at the end of December 2025 compared to its working capital position of CAD 54.1 million at the end of December 2024. The increase in working capital is primarily attributable to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan on 11th June 2025, and the change in working capital items driven from timing of business activities. With regards to credit and liquidity, we have a strong balance sheet and ample undrawn capacity on our syndicated revolving credit facility with an operating line of CAD 175 million and an amortizing term loan of CAD 134 million. We have a further CAD 50 million accordion for growth purposes.
Kristie Plaquin: The company paid out 0.3 per share in dividends during the quarter for total consideration of CAD 3.9 million. The corporation had net working capital of CAD 90.3 million at the end of December 2025 compared to its working capital position of CAD 54.1 million at the end of December 2024. The increase in working capital is primarily attributable to the acquisition of Stellar Mayan on 11th June 2025, and the change in working capital items driven from timing of business activities. With regards to credit and liquidity, we have a strong balance sheet and ample undrawn capacity on our syndicated revolving credit facility with an operating line of CAD 175 million and an amortizing term loan of CAD 134 million. We have a further CAD 50 million accordion for growth purposes.
Speaker #2: The increase in working capital is primarily attributable to the acquisition of Stellar on June 11, 2025, and the change in working capital items driven by the timing of business activities.
Speaker #2: With regards to credit and liquidity, we have a strong balance sheet and ample underlying capacity on our syndicated revolving credit facility, with an operating line of $175 million and an amortizing term loan of $134 million.
Speaker #2: And we have a further $50 million accordion for growth purposes. At year-end, we had an underlying balance of close to $66 million on our operating line, without taking into account the accordion.
Kristie Plaquin: At year-end, we had an undrawn balance of close to CAD 66 million available on our operating line without taking into account the accordion, which reinforces our strong liquidity. This represents a pro forma funded debt to EBITDA ratio, excluding leases, of about 2.6x on a pro forma basis. Debt to total capitalization for the period ended 31st December 2025 was 48.7%. Total debt net of cash increased in the year from CAD 114.4 to 214.2 million, primarily again related to the amortizing term loan to finance the Stellar Mayan acquisition, which has been offset by repayments to our revolving credit facility. I'll now turn things back over to Linda for any additional commentary. Linda.
Kristie Plaquin: At year-end, we had an undrawn balance of close to CAD 66 million available on our operating line without taking into account the accordion, which reinforces our strong liquidity. This represents a pro forma funded debt to EBITDA ratio, excluding leases, of about 2.6x on a pro forma basis. Debt to total capitalization for the period ended 31st December 2025 was 48.7%. Total debt net of cash increased in the year from CAD 114.4 to 214.2 million, primarily again related to the amortizing term loan to finance the Stellar Mayan acquisition, which has been offset by repayments to our revolving credit facility. I'll now turn things back over to Linda for any additional commentary. Linda.
Speaker #2: Which reinforces our strong liquidity. This represents a pro forma funded debt to EBITDA ratio excluding leases of about 2.6 times on a pro forma basis.
Speaker #2: Debt to total capitalization for the period ended December 31, 2025, was 48.7%. Total debt, net of cash, increased in the year from $114.4 million to $214.2 million primarily, again, related to the amortizing term loan to finance the Stellar Mayan acquisition, which has been offset by repayments to our revolving credit facility.
Speaker #2: I'll now turn things back over to Linda for any additional commentary. Linda?
Speaker #1: Thank you. Thank you so much, Christy. 2025 was a transformational year for K-Bro as we built out our strategic national presence across the UK.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you. Thank you so much, Kristie. 2025 was a transformational year for K-Bro as we built out our strategic national presence across the UK. With the acquisition of Stellar Mayan, we're delighted to have two national healthcare and hospitality platforms in both Canada and the UK. We are a leader in Canadian healthcare with half a century of experience, and we're excited to extend that leadership into other markets. We see a positive outlook for our business in both Canada and the UK, and are excited about our growth opportunities ahead. We are pleased with our progress on our ongoing Stellar Mayan integration efforts. Our UK managing director, who is an experienced K-Bro veteran, oversees the combined UK operations, including the Stellar Mayan business integration plan.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you. Thank you so much, Kristie. 2025 was a transformational year for K-Bro as we built out our strategic national presence across the UK. With the acquisition of Stellar Mayan, we're delighted to have two national healthcare and hospitality platforms in both Canada and the UK. We are a leader in Canadian healthcare with half a century of experience, and we're excited to extend that leadership into other markets. We see a positive outlook for our business in both Canada and the UK, and are excited about our growth opportunities ahead. We are pleased with our progress on our ongoing Stellar Mayan integration efforts. Our UK managing director, who is an experienced K-Bro veteran, oversees the combined UK operations, including the Stellar Mayan business integration plan.
Speaker #1: With the acquisition of Stellar, we're delighted to have two national healthcare and hospitality platforms in both Canada and the UK. We are a leader in Canadian healthcare with half a century of experience, and we're excited to extend that leadership into other markets.
Speaker #1: We see a positive outlook for our business in both Canada and the UK, and are excited about our growth opportunities ahead. We are pleased with our progress on our ongoing Stellar integration efforts.
Speaker #1: Our UK Managing Director, who is an experienced K-Bro veteran, oversees the combined UK operations, including the Stellar business integration plan. Our transition team is reviewing cost synergies, operational efficiencies, and platform optimizations, and we anticipate run-rate cost synergies will be realized over the contemplated 24-month time horizon.
Linda McCurdy: Our transition team is reviewing cost synergies, operational efficiencies, and platform optimizations, and we anticipate run rate cost synergies will be realized over the contemplated 24-month time horizon. To the end of 2025, we're on track and estimate we've achieved 25% of the anticipated synergies. On a consolidated basis, we're excited about the future potential of our combined business. Both of K-Bro's healthcare and hospitality segments continue to experience steady growth rates. In the healthcare segment, we expect activity levels to remain strong from continued focus on reduced wait times and enhancing patient care. In the hospitality segment, we expect solid activity levels from both business and leisure travel, reflecting historical seasonal trends. Going forward, we expect combined Adjusted EBITDA margins will remain at similar levels to seasonally adjusted combined historical margins.
Linda McCurdy: Our transition team is reviewing cost synergies, operational efficiencies, and platform optimizations, and we anticipate run rate cost synergies will be realized over the contemplated 24-month time horizon. To the end of 2025, we're on track and estimate we've achieved 25% of the anticipated synergies. On a consolidated basis, we're excited about the future potential of our combined business. Both of K-Bro's healthcare and hospitality segments continue to experience steady growth rates. In the healthcare segment, we expect activity levels to remain strong from continued focus on reduced wait times and enhancing patient care. In the hospitality segment, we expect solid activity levels from both business and leisure travel, reflecting historical seasonal trends. Going forward, we expect combined Adjusted EBITDA margins will remain at similar levels to seasonally adjusted combined historical margins.
Speaker #1: To the end of 2025, we're on track and estimate we've achieved 25% of the anticipated synergies. On a consolidated basis, we're excited about the future potential of our combined business.
Speaker #1: Both of K-Bro's healthcare and hospitality segments continue to experience steady growth rates. In the healthcare segment, we expect activity levels to remain strong from continued focus on reduced wait times and enhancing patient care.
Speaker #1: In the hospitality segment, we expect solid activity levels from both business and leisure travel, reflecting historical seasonal trends. Going forward, we expect combined adjusted EBITDA margins will remain at similar levels to seasonally adjusted combined historical margins.
Speaker #1: In line with management's expectations, the consolidated UK divisional adjusted EBITDA margins will be lower than seasonally adjusted historical margins due to the lower EBITDA margin profile of Stellar.
Linda McCurdy: In line with management's expectations, the consolidated UK divisional Adjusted EBITDA margins will be lower than a seasonally adjusted historical margins due to the lower EBITDA margin profile of Stellar Mayan. K-Bro is committed to a sustainable future, and we're proud of our talented, diverse, and motivated workforce that share our values and represent our local communities. We're working to integrate our recently acquired businesses and as always, we collaborate with our stakeholders to appreciate their priorities, solicit and receive feedback, and align around common goals. Our services are essential to the continuity of our customers' operations, and we're embodying sustainable practices to support them for the long term. Now I'll turn it over to answer any questions you have as it relates to the Q4 and annual results of 2025.
Linda McCurdy: In line with management's expectations, the consolidated UK divisional Adjusted EBITDA margins will be lower than a seasonally adjusted historical margins due to the lower EBITDA margin profile of Stellar Mayan. K-Bro is committed to a sustainable future, and we're proud of our talented, diverse, and motivated workforce that share our values and represent our local communities. We're working to integrate our recently acquired businesses and as always, we collaborate with our stakeholders to appreciate their priorities, solicit and receive feedback, and align around common goals. Our services are essential to the continuity of our customers' operations, and we're embodying sustainable practices to support them for the long term. Now I'll turn it over to answer any questions you have as it relates to the Q4 and annual results of 2025.
Speaker #1: K-Bro is committed to a sustainable future, and we're proud of our talented, diverse, and motivated workforce that share our values and represent our local communities.
Speaker #1: We're working to integrate our recently acquired businesses, and as always, we collaborate with our stakeholders to appreciate their priorities, solicit and receive feedback, and align around common goals.
Speaker #1: Our services are essential to the continuity of our customers' operations, and we're embodying sustainable practices to support them for the long term. Now, I'll turn it over to answer any questions you have as it relates to the fourth quarter and annual results of 2025.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the one on your touch-tone phone.
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Speaker #3: Hey, good morning. Linda, maybe just to start, you speak about similar levels for adjusted EBITDA margins. But at the same time, we are seeing some escalating natural gas expenses, and then diesel costs as well.
Michael Glenn: Hey, good morning. Linda, maybe just to start, you speak about similar levels for Adjusted EBITDA margins, but at the same time, we are seeing some escalating natural gas expenses and then diesel cost as well. I guess you could lump into that. Can you maybe speak to how your outlook on those line items might have changed as we trended early into 2026?
Michael Glen: Hey, good morning. Linda, maybe just to start, you speak about similar levels for Adjusted EBITDA margins, but at the same time, we are seeing some escalating natural gas expenses and then diesel cost as well. I guess you could lump into that. Can you maybe speak to how your outlook on those line items might have changed as we trended early into 2026?
Speaker #3: I guess you could lump into that. Can you maybe speak to how your outlook on those line items might have changed as we trended early into 2026?
Speaker #1: Yeah, absolutely, Michael. I would say certainly we will see a marginal impact as it relates to certain items in that area. We are hedged in both Canada and the UK, Christy.
Linda McCurdy: Yeah, absolutely, Michael. I would say certainly we will see a marginal impact as it relates to certain items in that area. We are hedged in both Canada and the UK. Kristie, I'll get you to outline timelines and percentages. The largest area where we would see some exposure would be diesel. Having said that, diesel is by far the smallest input cost as it relates to or relative to natural gas or electricity. Kristie, maybe you can map out hedging and what's under contract until when by geography.
Linda McCurdy: Yeah, absolutely, Michael. I would say certainly we will see a marginal impact as it relates to certain items in that area. We are hedged in both Canada and the UK. Kristie, I'll get you to outline timelines and percentages. The largest area where we would see some exposure would be diesel. Having said that, diesel is by far the smallest input cost as it relates to or relative to natural gas or electricity. Kristie, maybe you can map out hedging and what's under contract until when by geography.
Speaker #1: I'll get you to outline timelines and percentages. The largest area where we would see some exposure would be diesel. Having said that, diesel is by far the smallest input cost as it relates to, or relative to, natural gas or electricity.
Speaker #1: But Christy, maybe you can map out hedging and what's under contract—until when, by geography.
Speaker #4: Yeah, absolutely. So from a natural gas perspective, in Canada, we're hedged about 60%. And those hedges roll off anywhere between the next 12 to 36 months.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah, absolutely. From a natural gas perspective, in Canada, we're hedged about 60%, and those hedges roll off anywhere between the next 12 to 36 months. A little bit exposure on the Canadian side. Having said that, we don't think it would have any, from a Canadian perspective, any material impact to the margins at this point in time. In the UK, we are hedged 100% to the end of this fiscal year, so to the end of 2026. There has been a significant increase in the cost of natural gas compared to what we're hedged at today.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah, absolutely. From a natural gas perspective, in Canada, we're hedged about 60%, and those hedges roll off anywhere between the next 12 to 36 months. A little bit exposure on the Canadian side. Having said that, we don't think it would have any, from a Canadian perspective, any material impact to the margins at this point in time. In the UK, we are hedged 100% to the end of this fiscal year, so to the end of 2026. There has been a significant increase in the cost of natural gas compared to what we're hedged at today.
Speaker #4: So, a little bit of exposure on the Canadian side. Having said that, we don't think it would have, from a Canadian perspective, any material impact to the margins at this point in time.
Speaker #4: In the UK, we are hedged 100% to the end of this fiscal year, so to the end of 2026. There has been a significant increase in cost in natural gas compared to what we're hedged at today.
Speaker #4: If we had to renew our hedges at today's rates, we would anticipate that there would be a margin impact of about 1% to consolidated margins going forward.
Kristie Plaquin: If we had to renew our hedges at today's rates, we would anticipate that there would be a margin impact of about 1% to consolidated margins going forward.
Kristie Plaquin: If we had to renew our hedges at today's rates, we would anticipate that there would be a margin impact of about 1% to consolidated margins going forward.
Speaker #3: Okay.
Linda McCurdy: I think just to add to that, Michael, sorry. The one thing I would say is that our diesel hedge in the UK comes off as of March, but again, similar to my earlier comment, smaller part of the input cost.
Linda McCurdy: I think just to add to that, Michael, sorry. The one thing I would say is that our diesel hedge in the UK comes off as of March, but again, similar to my earlier comment, smaller part of the input cost.
Speaker #1: I think, just to add to that, Michael—sorry—the one thing I would say is that our diesel hedge in the UK comes off as of March, but again, similar to my earlier comment, it's a smaller part of the input cost.
Speaker #3: Okay. And just given the nature of the events, is there any chance that the counterparty to that could come back with any sort of, 'This risk wasn't foreseen,' or anything like that?
Michael Glenn: Okay. Just given the nature of the events, is there any chance that the counterparty to that could come back with any sort of, you know, this risk wasn't foreseen or anything like that? Could they push back on the hedging at all?
Michael Glen: Okay. Just given the nature of the events, is there any chance that the counterparty to that could come back with any sort of, you know, this risk wasn't foreseen or anything like that? Could they push back on the hedging at all?
Speaker #3: Could they push back on the hedging at all?
Speaker #1: You know, we've been fairly careful about who the third-party counterparty is, ensuring that they are financially stable and a large player. So we don't expect exposure there.
Linda McCurdy: You know, we've been fairly careful about who the third-party counterparty is, ensuring that they are financially stable and a large player. We don't expect exposure there. It's the same counterparty that we've dealt with during similar periods. It's a fair enough question. We don't expect anything at this point.
Linda McCurdy: You know, we've been fairly careful about who the third-party counterparty is, ensuring that they are financially stable and a large player. We don't expect exposure there. It's the same counterparty that we've dealt with during similar periods. It's a fair enough question. We don't expect anything at this point.
Speaker #1: And it's the same counterparty that we've dealt with during similar periods. But it's a fair enough question. We don't expect anything at this point.
Speaker #3: Okay, and then just on labor, can you update us on how you see the labor market evolving in both markets? And then, perhaps in Canada, just touch on if you are seeing any movement in Alberta?
Michael Glenn: Okay. Just on labor, can you update us on how you see the labor market evolving in both markets? Perhaps in Canada, just touch on, are you seeing any movement in Alberta? These might be early days, but are you seeing any movement in Alberta with labor as we go into this higher oil and gas market?
Michael Glen: Okay. Just on labor, can you update us on how you see the labor market evolving in both markets? Perhaps in Canada, just touch on, are you seeing any movement in Alberta? These might be early days, but are you seeing any movement in Alberta with labor as we go into this higher oil and gas market?
Speaker #3: These might be early days, but are you seeing any movement in Alberta with labor as we go into this higher oil and gas market?
Speaker #1: Yes. Yeah, good questions. I would say labor overall in both geographies has been very constructive. We have been fortunate to be able to secure and are obviously gearing up in our hospitality plants for Easter, where the seasonality picks up and it leads into our busier season.
Linda McCurdy: Yes. Yeah, good questions. I would say labor overall in both geographies has been very constructive. We have been fortunate to be able to secure and are obviously gearing up in our hospitality plants for Easter, where the seasonality picks up and it leads into our busier season. We are feeling pretty good about the situation and our ability to access labor in virtually all of our markets. On the Alberta front, I would say we definitely can be impacted by the increase in the price of oil, but it is early days, and we have not seen anything yet.
Linda McCurdy: Yes. Yeah, good questions. I would say labor overall in both geographies has been very constructive. We have been fortunate to be able to secure and are obviously gearing up in our hospitality plants for Easter, where the seasonality picks up and it leads into our busier season. We are feeling pretty good about the situation and our ability to access labor in virtually all of our markets. On the Alberta front, I would say we definitely can be impacted by the increase in the price of oil, but it is early days, and we have not seen anything yet.
Speaker #1: We are feeling pretty good about the situation and our ability to access labor. In virtually all of our markets, on the Alberta front, I would say we definitely can be impacted by the increase in the price of oil, but it is early days and we have not seen anything yet.
Speaker #3: Okay. I'll get back into Q.
Michael Glenn: Okay. I'll get back in the queue.
Michael Glen: Okay. I'll get back in the queue.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Michael.
Linda McCurdy: Thanks, Michael.
Linda McCurdy: Thanks, Michael.
Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question comes from Derek Lessard with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Derek Lessard with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Derek Lessard with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Yeah, good morning, Linda, Christy. Great to hear you. Congrats on a really nice quarter and an exceptional year.
Derek Lessard: Yeah, good morning, Linda and Kristie. Great to hear you. Congrats on a really nice quarter and an exceptional year.
Derek Lessard: Yeah, good morning, Linda and Kristie. Great to hear you. Congrats on a really nice quarter and an exceptional year.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Derek. Good morning.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you, Derek. Morning.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you, Derek. Morning.
Speaker #5: I just maybe wanted to—it's more of a macro question at this point. Obviously, we're hearing a lot about the health of the consumer. In some sectors it's had an impact; others have reported no change.
Derek Lessard: It's more of a macro question at this point. Obviously, hearing a lot about the health of the consumer. Some sectors it's had an impact, others reported no change. I guess, you know, on the back of what's going on globally, impact on airline fuel and what have you. Maybe just a quick view on hospitality trends that you're seeing both in Canada and the UK would be helpful.
Derek Lessard: It's more of a macro question at this point. Obviously, hearing a lot about the health of the consumer. Some sectors it's had an impact, others reported no change. I guess, you know, on the back of what's going on globally, impact on airline fuel and what have you. Maybe just a quick view on hospitality trends that you're seeing both in Canada and the UK would be helpful.
Speaker #5: And I guess on the back of what's going on globally, impact on airline fuel and what have you. Maybe just a quick view on hospitality trends that you're seeing both in Canada and the UK would be helpful.
Speaker #1: Yeah. Part of this is that we would have expected to see some level of impact in 2025 as Liberation Day started, tariffs started to come in, and the cost to the consumer had risen.
Linda McCurdy: Yeah. Part of this, we would have expected to see some level of impact in 2025, as, you know, Liberation Day started, tariffs started to come, and the cost to the consumer had risen. Yet it tended to be quite a solid year in 2025 on the hospitality front, partially because of staycations, still strong European travel, and strong US travel to Canada. We are not seeing any warning signs at this point in Canada as it relates to commentary from our hospitality partners, our hotels. I'm not worried about the UK, but to the extent there would be an impact, I would be thinking it would be more related to the UK, but yet we haven't experienced that and have not seen any warning signs.
Linda McCurdy: Yeah. Part of this, we would have expected to see some level of impact in 2025, as, you know, Liberation Day started, tariffs started to come, and the cost to the consumer had risen. Yet it tended to be quite a solid year in 2025 on the hospitality front, partially because of staycations, still strong European travel, and strong US travel to Canada. We are not seeing any warning signs at this point in Canada as it relates to commentary from our hospitality partners, our hotels. I'm not worried about the UK, but to the extent there would be an impact, I would be thinking it would be more related to the UK, but yet we haven't experienced that and have not seen any warning signs.
Speaker #1: And yet, it tended to be quite a solid year in '25 on the hospitality front, partially because of staycations, still strong European travel, and strong US travel to Canada.
Speaker #1: We are not seeing any warning signs. At this point in Canada, as it relates to commentary from our hospitality partners, our hotels, I'm not worried about the UK. But to the extent there would be an impact, I would be thinking it would be more related to the UK, but yet we haven't experienced that and have not seen any warning signs.
Speaker #1: A real telltale will be Easter, because—and school holidays, as it relates to the UK—to see how those trend. But we're not seeing anything that we're worried about at this point.
Linda McCurdy: A real telltale will be Easter and school holidays as it relates to the UK, to see how those trend. We're not seeing anything that we're worried about at this point.
Linda McCurdy: A real telltale will be Easter and school holidays as it relates to the UK, to see how those trend. We're not seeing anything that we're worried about at this point.
Speaker #5: Okay, that's helpful color. And there just may be still sticking with the UK, can we just talk about the organic growth or the organic volume growth that you're seeing in the business?
Derek Lessard: Okay, that's helpful color. Just maybe still sticking with the UK. Can you just talk about the organic growth or the organic volume growth that you're seeing in the business?
Derek Lessard: Okay, that's helpful color. Just maybe still sticking with the UK. Can you just talk about the organic growth or the organic volume growth that you're seeing in the business?
Speaker #1: Yep. Mid-single digit, broken down equally between, well, healthcare and hospitality—both mid-single digit—broken down equally between organic and price increases is what we've guided.
Linda McCurdy: Yeah. Mid-single digit, broken down equally, between healthcare and hospitality, both mid-single digit, broken down equally between organic and price increases is what we've guided. Doesn't include volume growth as it relates to converting customers from disposable to reusable. I would say that is a process, and, you know, that process will take a longer period of time. At this point, our key focus has been integrating and optimizing operations. I've spoke previously about changing shift patterns within a number of our plants, and that's been the key focus. That is what we're guiding for growth in the UK.
Linda McCurdy: Yeah. Mid-single digit, broken down equally, between healthcare and hospitality, both mid-single digit, broken down equally between organic and price increases is what we've guided. Doesn't include volume growth as it relates to converting customers from disposable to reusable. I would say that is a process, and, you know, that process will take a longer period of time. At this point, our key focus has been integrating and optimizing operations. I've spoke previously about changing shift patterns within a number of our plants, and that's been the key focus. That is what we're guiding for growth in the UK.
Speaker #1: Doesn't include volume growth as it relates to converting customers from disposable to reusable. But I would say that that is a process, and that process will take a longer period of time.
Speaker #1: At this point, our key focus has been integrating and optimizing operations of spoke, previously about changing shift patterns within a number of our plants, and that's been the key focus.
Speaker #1: So that is what we're guiding for growth in the UK.
Speaker #5: Awesome. I'll read Q, and congratulations again to your team.
Derek Lessard: Awesome. I'll reach you, and congratulations again to your team.
Derek Lessard: Awesome. I'll reach you, and congratulations again to your team.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question comes from Justin Keywood with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Justin Keywood with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Justin Keywood with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Good morning. Thanks for taking my call.
Justin Keywood: Good morning. Thanks for taking my call.
Justin Keywood: Good morning. Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker #1: Good morning, Justin.
Linda McCurdy: Morning, Justin.
Linda McCurdy: Morning, Justin.
Speaker #5: Nice to see the results. On the CapEx expectations for 2026, around $20 million, is that maintenance CapEx? Is there any new automation to incorporate within your plants?
Justin Keywood: Nice to see the results. On the CapEx expectations for 2026, around CAD 20 million, is that maintenance CapEx? Is there any new automation to incorporate within your plants? Maybe just a more broad question, with AI advancing, is there any other areas across the K-Bro platform where you see efficiencies, either in the back-end office functions or perhaps at the facilities?
Justin Keywood: Nice to see the results. On the CapEx expectations for 2026, around CAD 20 million, is that maintenance CapEx? Is there any new automation to incorporate within your plants? Maybe just a more broad question, with AI advancing, is there any other areas across the K-Bro platform where you see efficiencies, either in the back-end office functions or perhaps at the facilities?
Speaker #5: And maybe just a more broad question: With AI advancing, is there any other areas across the K-Bro platform where you see efficiencies, either in the back-end office functions or perhaps at the facilities?
Speaker #1: From a CapEx perspective, I'd say about half of that is maintenance and half of that is growth or strategic. I would say on the strategic piece of it, not a significant focus on new automation.
Linda McCurdy: From a CapEx perspective, I'd say about half of that is maintenance and half of that is growth/strategic. I would say on the strategic piece of it, not a significant focus on new automation. Much of it would be, you know, newer versions of equipment that needs replacement. You know, it. Robotics is just premature. I can't foresee a situation where that would be a key focus in our spend over the next several years, possibly, you know, 5 to 10 years. It's not that it doesn't exist. Our experience and our investigation of it is that it, the returns just aren't there yet, and it takes an incredible amount of square footage in your facility, so space is a serious consideration.
Linda McCurdy: From a CapEx perspective, I'd say about half of that is maintenance and half of that is growth/strategic. I would say on the strategic piece of it, not a significant focus on new automation. Much of it would be, you know, newer versions of equipment that needs replacement. You know, it. Robotics is just premature. I can't foresee a situation where that would be a key focus in our spend over the next several years, possibly, you know, five to 10 years. It's not that it doesn't exist. Our experience and our investigation of it is that it, the returns just aren't there yet, and it takes an incredible amount of square footage in your facility, so space is a serious consideration.
Speaker #1: Much of it would be newer versions of equipment that need replacement. Robotics is just premature. I can't foresee a situation where that would be a key focus in our spend over the next several years, possibly five to ten years.
Speaker #1: It's not that it doesn't exist. Our experience, and our investigation of it, is that the returns just aren't there yet, and it takes an incredible amount of square footage in your facility.
Speaker #1: So, space is a serious consideration. In terms of back office and AI—using AI in back office—we're in the very early stages of investigating that, Justin.
Linda McCurdy: In terms of back office and AI, using AI in back office, very early stages of investigating that, Justin. I think there will be a place for it, but we're not there at this point.
Linda McCurdy: In terms of back office and AI, using AI in back office, very early stages of investigating that, Justin. I think there will be a place for it, but we're not there at this point.
Speaker #1: I think there will be a place for it, but we're not there at this point.
Speaker #5: Okay, helpful. And then within Ontario, our understanding is there are several hospital RFPs that could come to market in the relatively near term. Are you able to update us on the organic growth opportunity within Ontario?
Justin Keywood: Okay. Helpful. Then, within Ontario, our understanding is there's several hospital RFPs that could come to market in the relatively near term. Are you able to update us on the organic growth opportunity within Ontario?
Justin Keywood: Okay. Helpful. Then, within Ontario, our understanding is there's several hospital RFPs that could come to market in the relatively near term. Are you able to update us on the organic growth opportunity within Ontario?
Speaker #1: Yes, it's obviously a key market, one where we have capacity to add additional volumes. As you've identified, there are a number of opportunities that would come out later in the year.
Linda McCurdy: Yes. You know, it's obviously a key market, one where we have capacity to add additional volumes. As you've identified, there are a number of opportunities that would come out later in the year. That remains our expectation, and we will be aggressively pursuing those as those opportunities come to market. But I would say no material updates. Still on track with our expectation.
Linda McCurdy: Yes. You know, it's obviously a key market, one where we have capacity to add additional volumes. As you've identified, there are a number of opportunities that would come out later in the year. That remains our expectation, and we will be aggressively pursuing those as those opportunities come to market. But I would say no material updates. Still on track with our expectation.
Speaker #1: That remains our expectation, and we will be aggressively pursuing those as those opportunities come to market. But I would say no material update—still on track with our expectation.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Just for context, are we considering— is it two or three RFPs, five to ten, or any indication there?
Justin Keywood: Thank you. Just for context, is it 2 or 3 RFPs, 5 to 10, or any indication there?
Justin Keywood: Thank you. Just for context, is it two or three RFPs, five to 10, or any indication there?
Speaker #1: It's hard to know how it'll be structured, to be fair—whether there will be consolidation among hospitals working together with a GPO, or whether it'll be singular entities.
Linda McCurdy: It's hard to know how it'll be structured, to be fair, whether there will be consolidation among hospitals working together with a GPO or whether it'll be singular entities. I think it's a bit premature to determine that or comment on it.
Linda McCurdy: It's hard to know how it'll be structured, to be fair, whether there will be consolidation among hospitals working together with a GPO or whether it'll be singular entities. I think it's a bit premature to determine that or comment on it.
Speaker #1: So I think it's a bit premature to determine that or comment on it.
Speaker #5: Okay. Great. Thank you very much.
Justin Keywood: Okay. Great. Thank you very much.
Justin Keywood: Okay. Great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Justin.
Linda McCurdy: Thanks, Justin.
Linda McCurdy: Thanks, Justin.
Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question is a follow-up from my co-line with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is a follow-up from Michael Glenn with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is a follow-up from Michael Glenn with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hi. Maybe just taking into everything as we work down the cash flow statement next year, can you give some idea what we should be thinking about from a free cash generation perspective in '26?
Michael Glenn: Hi. Maybe just taking into everything as we work down the cash flow statement next year, can you give some idea what we should be thinking about from a free cash generation perspective in 2026?
Michael Glen: Hi. Maybe just taking into everything as we work down the cash flow statement next year, can you give some idea what we should be thinking about from a free cash generation perspective in 2026?
Speaker #1: You bet, Christie.
Linda McCurdy: You bet. Kristie?
Linda McCurdy: You bet. Kristie?
Speaker #4: Yeah, absolutely, Michael. We would anticipate somewhere in the range of $40 million before dividends for 2026.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah. Absolutely, Michael. We would anticipate somewhere in the range of CAD 40 million before dividends for 2026.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah. Absolutely, Michael. We would anticipate somewhere in the range of CAD 40 million before dividends for 2026.
Speaker #6: Okay. And with that type of free cash generation, then as you exit next year, I guess your balance sheet should be firmly into the low twos?
Michael Glenn: Okay. With that type of free cash generation then, as you exit next year, I guess your balance sheet should be firmly into the low twos, from a leverage standpoint?
Michael Glen: Okay. With that type of free cash generation then, as you exit next year, I guess your balance sheet should be firmly into the low twos, from a leverage standpoint?
Speaker #6: From a leverage standpoint?
Speaker #4: Yeah, exactly. That would be based on that level of free cash flow; just somewhere in the low two range would be a reasonable estimate.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah. Exactly. That would be based on that level of free cash flow, just somewhere in the low 2 range would be a reasonable estimate.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah. Exactly. That would be based on that level of free cash flow, just somewhere in the low two range would be a reasonable estimate.
Speaker #6: And what happens with the free cash generation once you're back into the low twos? Should we expect, at that point, to see more activity with the share repurchase program?
Michael Glenn: What happens with the free cash generation once you're back into the low twos? Should we expect at that point to see more activity with the share repurchase program?
Michael Glen: What happens with the free cash generation once you're back into the low twos? Should we expect at that point to see more activity with the share repurchase program?
Speaker #1: Yeah, I think we'll remain focused on growth opportunities—acquisitions that make sense in our existing markets as they, if and when they become available. And to your point, exactly.
Linda McCurdy: Yeah. I think we'll remain focused on growth opportunities, acquisitions that make sense in our existing markets if and when they become available. To your point exactly, revisiting the NCIB and looking at reactivating that if that makes sense.
Linda McCurdy: Yeah. I think we'll remain focused on growth opportunities, acquisitions that make sense in our existing markets if and when they become available. To your point exactly, revisiting the NCIB and looking at reactivating that if that makes sense.
Speaker #1: Revisiting the NCIB and looking at reactivating that, if that makes sense.
Speaker #6: Okay. And then just on organic growth, are you able to indicate what the level of organic growth is in the UK? We have the Stellar Mayan deal, but do you have an estimate of what actual underlying organic was in the UK in Q4?
Michael Glenn: Okay. Just on organic growth, are you able to indicate what the level of organic growth. We have the Stellar Mayan deal, but do you have an estimate of what actual underlying organic was in the UK in Q4?
Michael Glen: Okay. Just on organic growth, are you able to indicate what the level of organic growth. We have the Stellar Mayan deal, but do you have an estimate of what actual underlying organic was in the UK in Q4?
Speaker #1: Christie, do you want to comment on that?
Linda McCurdy: Kristie, do you wanna comment on that?
Linda McCurdy: Kristie, do you wanna comment on that?
Speaker #4: Yeah, absolutely. I would say most of the growth, obviously, came from the Stellar acquisition. And I would say that organic growth was in the low single-digit levels.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah, absolutely. In, I would say most of the growth obviously came from the Stellar Mayan acquisition, and I would say that organic growth was in the low single digit levels.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah, absolutely. In, I would say most of the growth obviously came from the Stellar Mayan acquisition, and I would say that organic growth was in the low single digit levels.
Speaker #6: Okay. Okay. And are there any—I think you touched on this—but any timing in the UK regarding volume opportunities? Should we, can we think about maybe some volume opportunities, some volume growth building into the UK over the coming year?
Michael Glenn: Okay. I think you touched on this, but any timing in the UK regarding volume opportunities? Like, can we think about maybe some volume opportunities, some volume growth building into the UK over the coming year?
Michael Glen: Okay. I think you touched on this, but any timing in the UK regarding volume opportunities? Like, can we think about maybe some volume opportunities, some volume growth building into the UK over the coming year?
Speaker #1: I would say, in the back half of the year, Michael, we're still very focused on some heavy lifting—changing shift patterns in plants and improving service levels.
Linda McCurdy: I would say the back half of the year, Michael. We're still very focused on, you know, some heavy lifting of, changing shift patterns in plants, improving service levels, very operational-focused activities. I think it's fair enough to say the back half of the year, will be focused on growth opportunities.
Linda McCurdy: I would say the back half of the year, Michael. We're still very focused on, you know, some heavy lifting of, changing shift patterns in plants, improving service levels, very operational-focused activities. I think it's fair enough to say the back half of the year, will be focused on growth opportunities.
Speaker #1: Very operational-focused activities. But I think it's fair enough to say the back half of the year will be focused on growth opportunities.
Speaker #6: Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Michael Glenn: Okay. Okay, thank you.
Michael Glen: Okay. Okay, thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Michael.
Linda McCurdy: Thanks, Michael.
Linda McCurdy: Thanks, Michael.
Speaker #2: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. As a reminder, if you have any questions, please press star one. Next question, a follow-up from Derek Lessard with TD Cowen.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you have any questions, please press star one. Next question, a follow-up from Derek Lessard with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you have any questions, please press star one. Next question, a follow-up from Derek Lessard with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Yeah, maybe just the housekeeping one for me, Christie. Just on the wages and benefits line—I know, as a percentage of revenue, it's up on the Stellar acquisition.
Derek Lessard: Yeah, maybe just a housekeeping one for me, Kristie. Just on the wages and benefits line. I know as a percentage of revenue it's up on the Stellar Mayan acquisition, but sequentially it did step up, I think 90 basis points or thereabouts. Just curious of how we should be modeling that line item going forward.
Derek Lessard: Yeah, maybe just a housekeeping one for me, Kristie. Just on the wages and benefits line. I know as a percentage of revenue it's up on the Stellar Mayan acquisition, but sequentially it did step up, I think 90 basis points or thereabouts. Just curious of how we should be modeling that line item going forward.
Speaker #5: But sequentially, it did step up, I think, 90 bps or thereabouts. Just curious how we should be modeling that line item going forward.
Speaker #4: Yeah, I would say Q4 is probably fairly representative of the go-forward position. We do expect to have some increase on that line as we gain efficiencies.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah. I would say Q4 is probably fairly representative of the go-forward position. You know, we do expect to have some increase on that line as we gain efficiencies. I would say a very good starting point would be the Q4 number.
Kristie Plaquin: Yeah. I would say Q4 is probably fairly representative of the go-forward position. You know, we do expect to have some increase on that line as we gain efficiencies. I would say a very good starting point would be the Q4 number.
Speaker #4: But I would say a very good starting point would be the Q4 number.
Speaker #5: Okay, thank you. And when you say you expect it to gain, you mean improve? As you get efficiencies? Yeah. Yeah, got it. Okay, perfect.
Derek Lessard: Okay, thank you. When you say you expect it to gain, you mean improve?
Derek Lessard: Okay, thank you. When you say you expect it to gain, you mean improve?
Kristie Plaquin: Correct.
Kristie Plaquin: Correct.
Derek Lessard: As you get efficiency? Yeah. Got it. Okay.
Derek Lessard: As you get efficiency? Yeah. Got it. Okay.
Kristie Plaquin: Correct.
Kristie Plaquin: Correct.
Derek Lessard: Perfect. Thank you. Okay.
Derek Lessard: Perfect. Thank you. Okay.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Okay.
Speaker #2: Thank you, though. No further questions. I will turn the call back over to Linda McCurdy for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions. I will turn the call back over to Linda McCurdy for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions. I will turn the call back over to Linda McCurdy for closing remarks.
Speaker #1: Thank you, everyone, for joining today, and I hope everyone enjoys the first day of spring. If there's any additional follow-up for Christie and me, please feel free to reach out.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you everyone for joining today, and hope everyone enjoys the first day of spring. If there's any additional follow-up for Kristie and I, please feel free to reach out. We're always available. Thank you.
Linda McCurdy: Thank you everyone for joining today, and hope everyone enjoys the first day of spring. If there's any additional follow-up for Kristie and I, please feel free to reach out. We're always available. Thank you.
Speaker #1: We're always available. Thank you.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating, and we ask that you please disconnect your lines.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating, and we ask that you please disconnect your lines.