Q4 2025 Vireo Growth Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker #2: Please see our earnings release for reconciliations to GAAP measures. I'll now hand the call over to Chief Executive Officer John Mazarakis. Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
John Mazarakis: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We're pleased to report another strong quarter for Vireo, highlighted by double-digit organic growth and continued integration progress across our extended platform. We continue to operate with discipline at the local level while pursuing accretive M&A opportunities that strengthen our national presence and enhance long-term cash flow stability. In Q4, same-store sales increased 22% year-over-year and 11.3% excluding Minnesota, reflecting healthy consumer demand and continued share gains in key markets. Wholesale revenue also rose 55% year-over-year, supported by strong output from our integrated cultivation assets. Over the past several months, we've announced a number of transformative transactions, including Schwazze, Eaze, and PharmaCann's Colorado retail assets, as well as a non-binding memorandum of understanding with Scotts Miracle-Gro for the potential acquisition of Hawthorne Gardening Company.
John Mazarakis: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We're pleased to report another strong quarter for Vireo, highlighted by double-digit organic growth and continued integration progress across our extended platform. We continue to operate with discipline at the local level while pursuing accretive M&A opportunities that strengthen our national presence and enhance long-term cash flow stability. In Q4, same-store sales increased 22% year-over-year and 11.3% excluding Minnesota, reflecting healthy consumer demand and continued share gains in key markets.
Speaker #2: We're pleased to report another strong quarter for Vireo, highlighted by double-digit organic growth and continued integration progress across our extended platform. We continue to operate with discipline at the local level while pursuing creative M&A opportunities that strengthen our national presence and enhance long-term cash flow stability.
Speaker #2: In the fourth quarter, same-store sales increased 22% year over year, and 11.3%, excluding Minnesota, reflecting healthy consumer demand and continued share gains in key markets.
John Mazarakis: Wholesale revenue also rose 55% year-over-year, supported by strong output from our integrated cultivation assets. Over the past several months, we've announced a number of transformative transactions, including Schwazze, Eaze, and PharmaCann's Colorado retail assets, as well as a non-binding memorandum of understanding with Scotts Miracle-Gro for the potential acquisition of Hawthorne Gardening Company.
Speaker #2: Wholesale revenue also rose 55% year over year, supported by strong output from our integrated cultivation assets. Over the past several months, we've announced a number of transformative transactions, including SWOTs, EAS, and Pharmacan's Colorado retail assets, as well as a non-binding memorandum of understanding with Scotch Miracle Grow for the potential acquisition of Hawthorn Gardening Company.
Speaker #2: Combined, the SWOTs, EAS, and Pharmacan transactions represent approximately 78 dispensaries across Colorado and New Mexico, 12 dispensaries in California, and 40 dispensaries operating in Florida.
John Mazarakis: Combining the Schwazze, Eaze, and PharmaCann transactions represent approximately 78 dispensaries across Colorado and New Mexico, 12 dispensaries in California, and 40 dispensaries operating in Florida in exchange for an equity consideration of around $174 million in Vireo shares. Together, these deals establish one of the largest integrated retail platforms in Colorado and New Mexico, positioning us for further scalable accretive growth in those states. These deals also represent our entry into two important markets: California and Florida. Regarding the Hawthorne opportunity, this transaction represents the first step in building a national procurement and supply chain platform with meaningful scale and recurring revenue. We plan on using this platform to purchase the ancillary products used across our business in a cost-effective manner.
John Mazarakis: Combining the Schwazze, Eaze, and PharmaCann transactions represent approximately 78 dispensaries across Colorado and New Mexico, 12 dispensaries in California, and 40 dispensaries operating in Florida in exchange for an equity consideration of around $174 million in Vireo shares. Together, these deals establish one of the largest integrated retail platforms in Colorado and New Mexico, positioning us for further scalable accretive growth in those states. These deals also represent our entry into two important markets: California and Florida. Regarding the Hawthorne opportunity, this transaction represents the first step in building a national procurement and supply chain platform with meaningful scale and recurring revenue. We plan on using this platform to purchase the ancillary products used across our business in a cost-effective manner.
Speaker #2: In exchange for an equity consideration of around $174 million, Vireo shares. Together, these deals establish one of the largest integrated retail platforms in Colorado and New Mexico, positioning us for further scalable, accretive growth in those states.
Speaker #2: These deals also represent our entry into two important markets: California and Florida. Regarding the Hawthorn opportunity, this transaction represents the first step in building a national procurement and supply chain platform with meaningful scale and recurring revenue.
Speaker #2: We plan on using this platform to purchase the ancillary products used across our business in a cost-effective manner. We like this opportunity because the Hawthorn business has moved past their CapEx inventory-focused sales model, like lights, and into a more OpEx-focused model of monthly recurring sales, which we believe is the first step to succeeding in this ancillary market.
John Mazarakis: We like this opportunity because the Hawthorne business has moved past their CapEx inventory-focused sales model like Lights and into a more OpEx-focused model of monthly recurring sales, which we believe is the first step to succeeding in this ancillary market. As part of the Hawthorne deal, it is contemplated that we would receive $35 million of cash, approximately $50 million of net working capital, $20 million of liquid inventory comprised mostly of soil supplied to us incrementally over two years, and the ongoing business with meaningful ancillary product sales and meaningful ongoing EBITDA in exchange for 206 million shares and 80 million cash stock options struck at $0.85. All these transactions are expected to close within the next 2.5 months.
John Mazarakis: We like this opportunity because the Hawthorne business has moved past their CapEx inventory-focused sales model like Lights and into a more OpEx-focused model of monthly recurring sales, which we believe is the first step to succeeding in this ancillary market. As part of the Hawthorne deal, it is contemplated that we would receive $35 million of cash, approximately $50 million of net working capital, $20 million of liquid inventory comprised mostly of soil supplied to us incrementally over two years, and the ongoing business with meaningful ancillary product sales and meaningful ongoing EBITDA in exchange for 206 million shares and 80 million cash stock options struck at $0.85. All these transactions are expected to close within the next 2.5 months.
Speaker #2: As part of the Hawthorn deal, it is contemplated that we would receive $35 million of cash, approximately $50 million of networking capital, $20 million of liquid inventory comprised mostly of soil, supplied to us incrementally over two years, and the ongoing business with meaningful ancillary product sales and meaningful ongoing EBITDA in exchange for $206 million shares and $80 million cash stock options struck at 85 cents.
Speaker #2: All these transactions are expected to close within the next two and a half months. Following their completion, our operating footprint is expected to expand to 10 states and more than 160 dispensaries, and our net leverage ratio is expected to be lower than our Q4 reported level.
John Mazarakis: Following their completion, our operating footprint is expected to expand to 10 states and more than 160 dispensaries, and our net leverage ratio is expected to be lower than our Q4 reported level. As we scale, we continue to execute post-integration initiatives. During Q4, we completed the key integration work related to the transactions that closed in 2025, including integrating our HR, ERP platforms, rationalizing insurance providers and policies, and centralizing procurement across the enterprise. These efforts have already generated meaningful corporate overhead and ongoing operating synergies, which we expect will become even more evident in our 2026 results. We closed Q4 with over $120 million in cash on the balance sheet, providing us with the flexibility to continue executing our growth strategy through both accretive M&A and targeted organic investments to support our local operators.
John Mazarakis: Following their completion, our operating footprint is expected to expand to 10 states and more than 160 dispensaries, and our net leverage ratio is expected to be lower than our Q4 reported level. As we scale, we continue to execute post-integration initiatives. During Q4, we completed the key integration work related to the transactions that closed in 2025, including integrating our HR, ERP platforms, rationalizing insurance providers and policies, and centralizing procurement across the enterprise.
Speaker #2: As we scale, we continue to execute post-integration initiatives. During the fourth quarter, we completed the key integration work related to the transactions that closed in 2025, including integrating our HR and ERP platforms, rationalizing insurance providers and policies, and centralizing procurement across the enterprise.
Speaker #2: These efforts have already generated meaningful corporate overhead and ongoing operating synergies, which we expect will become even more evident in our 2026 results. We closed the fourth quarter with over $120 million in cash on the balance sheet, providing us with the flexibility to continue executing our growth strategy through both accretive M&A and targeted organic investments to support our local operators.
John Mazarakis: These efforts have already generated meaningful corporate overhead and ongoing operating synergies, which we expect will become even more evident in our 2026 results. We closed Q4 with over $120 million in cash on the balance sheet, providing us with the flexibility to continue executing our growth strategy through both accretive M&A and targeted organic investments to support our local operators. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now hand the call over to Tyson.
Speaker #2: That concludes my remarks. I'll now hand the call over to Tyson. Thank you, John. And thanks to everyone for joining us. I'll run through a quick summary of key income statement line items, and then review the balance sheet in more detail.
John Mazarakis: That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now hand the call over to Tyson.
[CFO] (Vireo Growth Inc): Thank you, John, and thanks to everyone for joining us. I'll run through a quick summary of key income statement line items and then review our balance sheet in more detail. Q4 GAAP revenue of $104.5 million increased 318% year-over-year on a reported basis and 26% on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the mergers of Deep Roots, Proper, and Wholesome as if they were completed on October 1, 2024. Of the 26% year-over-year increase on a pro forma basis, 12% was driven by the optimization of the recently acquired Wholesome, Deep Roots, and Proper businesses. 9% was driven by the launch of Minnesota adult use, and the remaining 5% was driven by the continued growth of our New York business.
Tyson Macdonald: Thank you, John, and thanks to everyone for joining us. I'll run through a quick summary of key income statement line items and then review our balance sheet in more detail. Q4 GAAP revenue of $104.5 million increased 318% year-over-year on a reported basis and 26% on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the mergers of Deep Roots, Proper, and Wholesome as if they were completed on October 1, 2024. Of the 26% year-over-year increase on a pro forma basis, 12% was driven by the optimization of the recently acquired Wholesome, Deep Roots, and Proper businesses. 9% was driven by the launch of Minnesota adult use, and the remaining 5% was driven by the continued growth of our New York business.
Speaker #2: Fourth quarter GAAP revenue of $104.5 million increased 318% year over year on a reported basis, and 26% on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the mergers of Deep Roots, Propper, and Wholesome as if they were completed on October 1, 2024.
Speaker #2: Of the 26% year-over-year increase on a pro forma basis, 12% was driven by the optimization of the recently acquired Wholesome, Deep Roots, and Propper businesses.
Speaker #2: Nine percent was driven by the launch of Minnesota adult use. The remaining five percent was driven by the continued growth of our New York business.
Speaker #2: For a complete review of our revenue performance by state and sales channel for the fourth quarter, please refer to the accompanying market sales tables in today’s earnings release, which will also be filed with our 10-K later today.
[CFO] (Vireo Growth Inc): For a complete review of our revenue performance by state and sales channel for Q4, please refer to the accompanying market sales tables in today's earnings release, which will also be filed with our 10-K later today. GAAP gross margin was impacted by the non-cash inventory valuation adjustments, primarily related to the required GAAP fair value step up associated with our closed transactions. Excluding this impact, gross margin was 56.3% and reflected an improvement of 510 basis points compared to the prior year quarter.
Tyson Macdonald: For a complete review of our revenue performance by state and sales channel for Q4, please refer to the accompanying market sales tables in today's earnings release, which will also be filed with our 10-K later today. GAAP gross margin was impacted by the non-cash inventory valuation adjustments, primarily related to the required GAAP fair value step up associated with our closed transactions. Excluding this impact, gross margin was 56.3% and reflected an improvement of 510 basis points compared to the prior year quarter.
Speaker #2: GAAP gross margin was impacted by the non-cash inventory valuation adjustments, primarily related to the required GAAP fair value step-up associated with our closed transactions.
Speaker #2: Excluding this impact, gross margin was 56.3% and reflected an improvement of 510 basis points compared to the prior-year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $29.5 million, or 28.2% of sales.
[CFO] (Vireo Growth Inc): Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $29.5 million, or 28.2% of sales, reflecting an improvement of approximately $22.9 million and 180 basis points as compared to Q4 of last year, and an improvement of approximately $6.8 million and 80 basis points relative to Q4 of last year on a pro forma basis. Moving to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $122.5 million of cash and an additional $1 million of marketable liquid securities. Total current assets, excluding tax receivables, assets held for sale, and the Schwazze's notes receivable, were $204.1 million, compared to current liabilities, excluding uncertain tax liabilities of $71.6 million.
Tyson Macdonald: Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $29.5 million, or 28.2% of sales, reflecting an improvement of approximately $22.9 million and 180 basis points as compared to Q4 of last year, and an improvement of approximately $6.8 million and 80 basis points relative to Q4 of last year on a pro forma basis. Moving to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $122.5 million of cash and an additional $1 million of marketable liquid securities. Total current assets, excluding tax receivables, assets held for sale, and the Schwazze's notes receivable, were $204.1 million, compared to current liabilities, excluding uncertain tax liabilities of $71.6 million.
Speaker #2: Reflecting an improvement of approximately $22.9 million, and 180 basis points as compared to the fourth quarter of last year. And an improvement of approximately $6.8 million, and 80 basis points relative to the fourth quarter of last year on a pro forma basis.
Speaker #2: Moving to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $122.5 million of cash, and an additional $1 million of marketable liquid securities. Total current assets, excluding tax receivables, assets held for sale, and the SWOS notes receivable, were $204.1 million, compared to current liabilities, excluding uncertain tax liabilities, of $71.6 million.
Speaker #2: As of December 1, 2025, the company had approximately 1.2 billion shares outstanding on a treasury stock method basis, using a share price of $0.60.
[CFO] (Vireo Growth Inc): As of 1 December 2025, the company had approximately 1.2 billion shares outstanding on a treasury stock method basis, using a share price of $0.60. We remain in a very healthy financial position and are focused on driving returns for shareholders through prudent capital deployment against our highest growth opportunities. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now hand the call back to John for some closing comments.
Tyson Macdonald: As of 1 December 2025, the company had approximately 1.2 billion shares outstanding on a treasury stock method basis, using a share price of $0.60. We remain in a very healthy financial position and are focused on driving returns for shareholders through prudent capital deployment against our highest growth opportunities. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now hand the call back to John for some closing comments.
Speaker #2: We remain in a very healthy financial position and are focused on driving returns for shareholders through prudent capital deployment against our highest growth opportunities.
Speaker #2: That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now hand the call back to John for some closing comments.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Tyson. In summary, we believe the performance we're seeing across the portfolio, combined with disciplined execution and accretive M&A, positions us to drive durable, long-term value for our stakeholders.
John Mazarakis: Thank you, Tyson. In summary, we believe the performance we're seeing across the portfolio, combined with the disciplined execution in accretive M&A, positions us to drive durable long-term value for our stakeholders. Thank you for joining us today. Now we would be pleased to take your questions. Operator?
John Mazarakis: Thank you, Tyson. In summary, we believe the performance we're seeing across the portfolio, combined with the disciplined execution in accretive M&A, positions us to drive durable long-term value for our stakeholders. Thank you for joining us today. Now we would be pleased to take your questions. Operator?
Speaker #3: Thank you for joining us today. Now, we would be pleased to take your questions. Operator?
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Speaker #5: Good morning, everyone, and congratulations on all the progress you're making. Can I ask, on the wholesale front, in terms of your plans to expand capacity or how to model wholesale revenues for New York and Minnesota in particular over the next 12 months?
Pablo Zuanic: Good morning, everyone, and congratulations on all the progress you're making. Can I ask on the wholesale front, in terms of your plans to expand capacity or how to model wholesale revenues for New York and Minnesota in particular over the next 12 months? Can you talk about that? Thank you first.
Pablo Zuanic: Good morning, everyone, and congratulations on all the progress you're making. Can I ask on the wholesale front, in terms of your plans to expand capacity or how to model wholesale revenues for New York and Minnesota in particular over the next 12 months? Can you talk about that? Thank you first.
Speaker #5: Can you talk about that? Thank you, first.
John Mazarakis: Pablo, I would look at the Q4 wholesale number, and I will try to extrapolate forward-looking statements from Q4. As you know, we don't rely on, you know, our estimates on the public domain. So that would be the best gauge of forward progress with respect to wholesale revenue.
John Mazarakis: Pablo, I would look at the Q4 wholesale number, and I will try to extrapolate forward-looking statements from Q4. As you know, we don't rely on, you know, our estimates on the public domain. So that would be the best gauge of forward progress with respect to wholesale revenue.
Speaker #6: Pablo, I would look at the fourth quarter wholesale number, and I will try to extrapolate forward-looking statements from the fourth quarter. As you know, we don't rely on our estimates in the public domain.
Speaker #6: So that would be the best gauge of forward progress with respect to wholesale revenue.
Speaker #5: Right. But I guess the question is more in terms of where you are today and where you were in terms of the fourth quarter.
Pablo Zuanic: Right. I guess the question is more in terms of where you are today and where you were in terms of the Q4. Are you expanding capacity in Minnesota or New York or not?
Pablo Zuanic: Right. I guess the question is more in terms of where you are today and where you were in terms of the Q4. Are you expanding capacity in Minnesota or New York or not?
Speaker #5: Are you expanding capacity in Minnesota or New York? And New York or not?
Speaker #6: Well, Minnesota has not been completed yet. So yeah, Minnesota capacity should double. But as you know, Minnesota wholesale, based on the earnings release, is minimal.
John Mazarakis: Well, Minnesota has not been completed yet. Yeah, Minnesota capacity should double. But as you know, Minnesota wholesale, based on the earnings release, is minimal.
John Mazarakis: Well, Minnesota has not been completed yet. Yeah, Minnesota capacity should double. But as you know, Minnesota wholesale, based on the earnings release, is minimal.
Speaker #5: Right. Yeah. Okay. And then moving on to Minnesota retail, of course, congratulations on the sequential growth there. Can you talk about the competitive landscape at retail?
Pablo Zuanic: Right. Yeah. Okay. Moving on to Minnesota retail, of course, congratulations on the sequential growth there. Can you talk about the competitive landscape at retail? You know, should we assume that there will be some share erosion as more stores open? How are you thinking about that? Supplies are still tight, so you should be able to hold on to your retail share in Minnesota.
Pablo Zuanic: Right. Yeah. Okay. Moving on to Minnesota retail, of course, congratulations on the sequential growth there. Can you talk about the competitive landscape at retail? You know, should we assume that there will be some share erosion as more stores open? How are you thinking about that? Supplies are still tight, so you should be able to hold on to your retail share in Minnesota.
Speaker #5: Should we assume that there will be some share erosion as more stores open? How are you thinking about that? Or are supplies still tight, so you should be able to hold on to your retail share in Minnesota?
Speaker #6: I think supply is very tight. And we expect to sell out of our product that will be generated in Elk River, our new Minnesota facility.
John Mazarakis: I think supply is very tight, and we expect to sell out of our product that will be generated in Elk River, our new Minnesota facility.
John Mazarakis: I think supply is very tight, and we expect to sell out of our product that will be generated in Elk River, our new Minnesota facility.
Speaker #5: Right. Yeah. But, right. Okay. Thank you. And supply is tight in general for the market, right? Not just for yourselves, but in general—that's my perception.
Pablo Zuanic: Right. Yeah. Right. Okay. Thank you. Supply is tight in general for the market, right? Not just for yourselves, but in general. That's my perception.
Pablo Zuanic: Right. Yeah. Right. Okay. Thank you. Supply is tight in general for the market, right? Not just for yourselves, but in general. That's my perception.
John Mazarakis: That's right.
John Mazarakis: That's right.
Speaker #6: That's right. There's really no product, and I don't foresee that changing in the next 24 to 36 months. I think Minnesota is going to be a really good state for us.
Pablo Zuanic: Yep.
Pablo Zuanic: Yep.
Speaker #5: Yeah.
John Mazarakis: There's really no product. I don't foresee that changing in the next 24 to 36 months.
John Mazarakis: There's really no product. I don't foresee that changing in the next 24 to 36 months.
Pablo Zuanic: Right. Okay, now moving on to Florida.
Pablo Zuanic: Right. Okay, now moving on to Florida.
John Mazarakis: I think Minnesota is gonna be a really good state for us.
John Mazarakis: I think Minnesota is gonna be a really good state for us.
Speaker #5: Of course. Yes. Moving on to Florida. I guess this is a two-part question. Can you confirm, first on the Wholesome side, can you confirm that they own a 25% stake in Fluent?
Pablo Zuanic: Of course, yes. Moving on to Florida, I guess it's a two-part question. Can you confirm first on the Hawthorne side, can you confirm that they own 25% stake in Fluent? The second part, talk about the performance of the Eaze Florida stores, right? How are they performing? Based on the OMMU data, I think they lag a little bit, but just talk about the opportunity there to improve performance of the Eaze own stores in Florida. Thank you.
Pablo Zuanic: Of course, yes. Moving on to Florida, I guess it's a two-part question. Can you confirm first on the Hawthorne side, can you confirm that they own 25% stake in Fluent? The second part, talk about the performance of the Eaze Florida stores, right? How are they performing? Based on the OMMU data, I think they lag a little bit, but just talk about the opportunity there to improve performance of the Eaze own stores in Florida. Thank you.
Speaker #5: And the second part, talk about the performance of the EASE Florida stores, right? How are they performing based on the OMU data? I think they lag a little bit, but just talk about the opportunity there to improve performance of the EASE-owned stores in Florida.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #6: So, we don't own Ease yet, technically. So I will let the first quarter numbers, maybe the second quarter numbers, speak to that. I don't like to speculate.
John Mazarakis: We don't own Eaze yet, technically. I will let the Q1 numbers, maybe the Q2 numbers, speak to that. I don't like to speculate. We're still in the process of closing that transaction, even though we've signed it. We'll probably, like we stated in the earnings script, be somewhere between, I don't know, 2 weeks and 3 months, that would be the outside date of closing Eaze. It could be as early as 2 weeks, it could be as late as 3 months. It's just purely dependent on regulatory. Eaze was a great acquisition, and I think Q2 and Q3 will speak to that, Pablo. In terms of Hawthorne directly owning a stake in Fluent, I believe that to be inaccurate.
John Mazarakis: We don't own Eaze yet, technically. I will let the Q1 numbers, maybe the Q2 numbers, speak to that. I don't like to speculate. We're still in the process of closing that transaction, even though we've signed it. We'll probably, like we stated in the earnings script, be somewhere between, I don't know, 2 weeks and 3 months, that would be the outside date of closing Eaze. It could be as early as 2 weeks, it could be as late as 3 months. It's just purely dependent on regulatory. Eaze was a great acquisition, and I think Q2 and Q3 will speak to that, Pablo. In terms of Hawthorne directly owning a stake in Fluent, I believe that to be inaccurate.
Speaker #6: We're still in the process of closing that transaction, even though we've signed it. We'll probably like we stated in the earnings script, we're somewhere between I don't know, two weeks and three months that would be the outside date of closing ease.
Speaker #6: It could be as early as two weeks; it could be as late as three months. It's just purely dependent on regulatory. Ease was a great acquisition.
Speaker #6: And I think Q2 and Q3 will speak to that, Pablo. In terms of Hawthorne directly owning a stake in Fluent, I believe that to be inaccurate.
John Mazarakis: I think there is some relation, but that's not the relationship that at least I'm aware of.
Speaker #6: I think at the I think there is some relation but that's not the relationship that at least I'm aware of.
John Mazarakis: I think there is some relation, but that's not the relationship that at least I'm aware of.
Pablo Zuanic: Okay. I guess one last one. The 11% same-store sales growth ex Minnesota for the full network, it's a very good number, right? In an industry that's relatively flat in general at the national level, and down, if we factor deflation. Can you talk about what drove that? I mean, I guess the implementation of new best practices, but just talk about that 11% same-store sales growth ex Minnesota. That's all. Thank you.
Pablo Zuanic: Okay. I guess one last one. The 11% same-store sales growth ex Minnesota for the full network, it's a very good number, right? In an industry that's relatively flat in general at the national level, and down, if we factor deflation. Can you talk about what drove that? I mean, I guess the implementation of new best practices, but just talk about that 11% same-store sales growth ex Minnesota. That's all. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Okay. And then I guess one last one—the 11% same-store sales growth, ex-Minnesota, for the whole network. It's a very good number, right? In an industry that's relatively flat in general at the national level, and down if we factor in deflation.
Speaker #5: Can you talk about what drove that—what I guess is the implementation of new best practices? But just talk about that 11% same-store sales growth, ex-Minnesota.
Speaker #5: That's all. Thank you.
Speaker #6: That's right. That's mostly driven by Nevada, Missouri, and Utah. Obviously, well, it's 22% if you add Minnesota, but I'm excluding Minnesota because, for obvious reasons, we can't take credit for the Minnesota increase.
John Mazarakis: That's right. That's mostly driven by Nevada, Missouri, and Utah. Well, you know, it's 22% if you add Minnesota, but I'm excluding Minnesota because for obvious reasons, we can't take credit for the Minnesota increase. Not yet. So the states that we can take credit for what we've done, and the credit goes to the local operators that we've partnered with. We implemented our own analytics. We have a deep understanding of consumer behavior, and we're just trying to optimize at all levels. That is clearly resonating with the consumer. I would say the most impressive number of the ones that I've mentioned is probably Nevada, where the Nevada state is declining by double digits, and we are growing by double digits.
John Mazarakis: That's right. That's mostly driven by Nevada, Missouri, and Utah. Well, you know, it's 22% if you add Minnesota, but I'm excluding Minnesota because for obvious reasons, we can't take credit for the Minnesota increase. Not yet. So the states that we can take credit for what we've done, and the credit goes to the local operators that we've partnered with. We implemented our own analytics. We have a deep understanding of consumer behavior, and we're just trying to optimize at all levels. That is clearly resonating with the consumer. I would say the most impressive number of the ones that I've mentioned is probably Nevada, where the Nevada state is declining by double digits, and we are growing by double digits.
Speaker #6: Not yet. So, the states that we can take credit for what we've done, and the credit goes to the local operators that we've partnered with.
Speaker #6: We implemented our own analytics; we have a deep understanding of consumer behavior. And we're just trying to optimize at all levels. That is clearly resonating with the consumer.
Speaker #6: And I would say the most impressive number of the ones that I've mentioned is probably in Nevada. Where the Nevada state is declining by double digits.
Speaker #6: And we are growing by double digits, so we wanted to announce all these numbers so that the market is aware of what we're doing at the local level.
John Mazarakis: We wanted to announce all these numbers so that the market is aware of what we're doing at the local level.
John Mazarakis: We wanted to announce all these numbers so that the market is aware of what we're doing at the local level.
Speaker #5: Yeah, of course. Congratulations, thank you. And I guess I'll add one last one. In Colorado, do you still see room to buy more stores, or are you pretty much done with the SHWAS and the Pharmacon transactions?
Pablo Zuanic: Yeah. Of course. Congratulations. Thank you. I guess I'll add one last one. In Colorado, do you still see room to buy more stores or pretty much you're done with the Schwazze and the PharmaCann transactions?
Pablo Zuanic: Yeah. Of course. Congratulations. Thank you. I guess I'll add one last one. In Colorado, do you still see room to buy more stores or pretty much you're done with the Schwazze and the PharmaCann transactions?
Speaker #6: We will never be done in Colorado.
John Mazarakis: We will never be done in Colorado.
John Mazarakis: We will never be done in Colorado.
Speaker #5: Okay. Interesting. All right. Thank you very much. That's all.
Pablo Zuanic: Okay. Interesting. All right. Thank you very much. That's all.
Pablo Zuanic: Okay. Interesting. All right. Thank you very much. That's all.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
John Mazarakis: Thank you.
John Mazarakis: Thank you.
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Speaker #8: Good morning, guys. Just a recent—yeah. Just on the recent acquisitions, could you provide any color or perspective on the level of synergies you’ve come to realize, or how it might impact margins?
Tom Kerr: Good morning, guys. Just on the recent
Tom Kerr: Good morning, guys. Just on the recent
John Mazarakis: Good morning, Tom.
John Mazarakis: Good morning, Tom.
Tom Kerr: Yeah. Just on the recent acquisitions, could you provide any color perspective on the level of synergies you come to realize or how it might impact margins? Just sort of the big picture question on that.
Tom Kerr: Yeah. Just on the recent acquisitions, could you provide any color perspective on the level of synergies you come to realize or how it might impact margins? Just sort of the big picture question on that.
Speaker #8: Just sort of the big picture question on that.
John Mazarakis: Yes. I have a million thoughts on this topic, but I would like the numbers to speak for themselves, especially in Colorado, where the synergies are meaningful. If we're patient, you know, this is a short quarter, as you all know. We will announce earnings again in May, and then again in August. By August, I think it will be clear to the market what we've invested in and how the synergies should be sort of expected. You should definitely anticipate meaningful synergies. As you're getting over $200 million in revenue in a single market, clearly the synergies are enormous. If we completely got it wrong, I think there are still meaningful synergies. That's the footprint that we're building in Colorado.
Speaker #6: Yes, I have a million thoughts on this topic, but I would like the numbers to speak for themselves—especially in Colorado, where the synergies are meaningful.
John Mazarakis: Yes. I have a million thoughts on this topic, but I would like the numbers to speak for themselves, especially in Colorado, where the synergies are meaningful. If we're patient, you know, this is a short quarter, as you all know. We will announce earnings again in May, and then again in August. By August, I think it will be clear to the market what we've invested in and how the synergies should be sort of expected. You should definitely anticipate meaningful synergies. As you're getting over $200 million in revenue in a single market, clearly the synergies are enormous. If we completely got it wrong, I think there are still meaningful synergies. That's the footprint that we're building in Colorado.
Speaker #6: If we're patient, this is a short quarter, as you all know. We will announce earnings again in May, and then again in August. So by August, I think it will be clear to the market what we've invested in and how the synergies should be sort of expected, or you should definitely anticipate meaningful synergies.
Speaker #6: As you're getting over 200 million dollars in revenue in a single market, clearly the synergies are enormous. If we completely got it wrong I think there are still meaningful synergies.
Speaker #6: That's the footprint that we're building in Colorado. In terms of other markets, we're working on synergies. But as you know, the synergies at the corporate level are limited.
John Mazarakis: In terms of other markets, we're working on synergies, but as you know, the synergies at the corporate level are limited. So we're just focused on local level synergies and local scale. As I said in my first earnings call, our objective is for every market to be of meaningful size so we can take advantage of those synergies.
John Mazarakis: In terms of other markets, we're working on synergies, but as you know, the synergies at the corporate level are limited. So we're just focused on local level synergies and local scale. As I said in my first earnings call, our objective is for every market to be of meaningful size so we can take advantage of those synergies.
Speaker #6: So we're just focused on local-level synergies and local scale. And as I said in my first earnings call, our objective is for every market to be of meaningful size so we can take advantage of those synergies.
Speaker #8: Got it. Thanks. One more. Any updated comments or thoughts on the potential rescheduling? How it affects the environment, valuations, perhaps senior exchange listings—any updated thoughts on the potential rescheduling, when or if it occurs?
Tom Kerr: Got it. Thanks. One more. Any updated comments or thoughts on the potential rescheduling? You know, how it affects the environment, valuations, perhaps senior exchange listings? Any updated thoughts on the potential rescheduling, when and if it occurs?
Tom Kerr: Got it. Thanks. One more. Any updated comments or thoughts on the potential rescheduling? You know, how it affects the environment, valuations, perhaps senior exchange listings? Any updated thoughts on the potential rescheduling, when and if it occurs?
John Mazarakis: I don't have any updates, and clearly, we're building a company that could benefit whether there's rescheduling or no rescheduling. I tend to focus on things we can control. I think this is an event that will affect everyone positively. We look forward to that, you know, point in time. I think we're gonna be probably one of the first companies to take advantage of, you know, whatever comes out of it. We're trying to build scale right now, and I think this is the time to do it.
John Mazarakis: I don't have any updates, and clearly, we're building a company that could benefit whether there's rescheduling or no rescheduling. I tend to focus on things we can control. I think this is an event that will affect everyone positively. We look forward to that, you know, point in time. I think we're gonna be probably one of the first companies to take advantage of, you know, whatever comes out of it. We're trying to build scale right now, and I think this is the time to do it.
Speaker #6: I don't have any updates and clearly we're building a company that could benefit whether there's rescheduling or no rescheduling. I tend to focus on things we can control.
Speaker #6: I think this is an event that will affect everyone positively. We look forward to that point in time. I think we're going to be probably one of the first companies to take advantage of whatever comes out of it.
Speaker #6: We're trying to build scale right now and I think this is the time to do it.
Speaker #8: Great. Thanks. That's all I have for today. Thank you.
Tom Kerr: Great. Thanks. That's all I have for today. Thank you.
Tom Kerr: Great. Thanks. That's all I have for today. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
John Mazarakis: Thank you.
John Mazarakis: Thank you.
Operator 2: There are no further questions. I'll now turn it back over to the Vireo team for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions. I'll now turn it back over to the Vireo team for closing remarks.
Speaker #7: There are no further questions. I'll now turn it back over to the Vireo team for closing remarks.
Speaker #8: I just wanted to thank everyone. I understand we're adding a lot to the platform, and I'm just asking for your patience, and the numbers will speak for themselves.
John Mazarakis: I just wanted to thank everyone. I understand, you know, we're adding a lot to the platform and I'm just asking that you're patient and the numbers will speak for themselves. Thank you so much.
John Mazarakis: I just wanted to thank everyone. I understand, you know, we're adding a lot to the platform and I'm just asking that you're patient and the numbers will speak for themselves. Thank you so much.
Speaker #8: Thank you so much.
Operator 2: That concludes today's meeting. You may now disconnect.
Operator: That concludes today's meeting. You may now disconnect.