Q4 2025 Consumer Portfolio Services Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Consumer Portfolio Services 2025 Q4 and full year operating results conference call. Today's call is being recorded. Before we begin, management has asked me to inform you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements. Any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical facts may be deemed forward-looking statements. Statements regarding current or historical valuation of receivables, because dependent on estimates of future events, are also forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. I refer you to the company's annual report filed 12 March 2025, for further clarification. The company assumes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, further events, or otherwise. With us here is Mr. Charles E. Bradley, Jr., Chief Executive Officer, Mr.
Operator: Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Consumer Portfolio Services 2025 Q4 and full year operating results conference call. Today's call is being recorded. Before we begin, management has asked me to inform you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements. Any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical facts may be deemed forward-looking statements. Statements regarding current or historical valuation of receivables, because dependent on estimates of future events, are also forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. I refer you to the company's annual report filed 12 March 2025, for further clarification. The company assumes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, further events, or otherwise. With us here is Mr. Charles E. Bradley, Jr., Chief Executive Officer, Mr.
Speaker #1: Before we begin, management has asked me to inform you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements. Any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical facts may be deemed forward-looking statements.
Speaker #1: Statements regarding current or historical valuation of receivables, because dependent on estimates of future events, are also forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected.
Speaker #1: I refer you to the company's annual report filed March 12, 2025, for further clarification. The company assumes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, further events, or otherwise.
Operator: Danny Bharwani, Chief Financial Officer, and Mr. Michael T. Lavin, President and Chief Operating Officer of Consumer Portfolio Services. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Bradley.
Operator: Danny Bharwani, Chief Financial Officer, and Mr. Michael T. Lavin, President and Chief Operating Officer of Consumer Portfolio Services. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Bradley.
Speaker #1: With us here is Mr. Charles Bradley, Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Danny Barwani, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Mike Lavin, President and Chief Operating Officer of Consumer Portfolio Services.
Charles E. Bradley, Jr.: Thank you, and welcome everyone to the Q4 and year-end conference call. 2025 was a very good year. We might have actually expected it to be even better, but we didn't quite get the growth we were looking for. Still, overall, a very strong year. We focused on credit. We focused on keeping our margins. All in all, it was very good. A couple of highlights, we renewed or actually we signed a new warehouse line with Capital One for $150 million. We also signed a $900 million Prime forward flow commitment. Both of those will be very instrumental in how we grow and what we're gonna do in 2026. More highlight in that is the fact that, you know, credit is readily available.
Charles Bradley: Thank you, and welcome everyone to the Q4 and year-end conference call. 2025 was a very good year. We might have actually expected it to be even better, but we didn't quite get the growth we were looking for. Still, overall, a very strong year. We focused on credit. We focused on keeping our margins. All in all, it was very good. A couple of highlights, we renewed or actually we signed a new warehouse line with Capital One for $150 million. We also signed a $900 million Prime forward flow commitment. Both of those will be very instrumental in how we grow and what we're gonna do in 2026. More highlight in that is the fact that, you know, credit is readily available.
Speaker #1: I will now turn the call over to Mr. Bradley. Thank you. And welcome, everyone, to the fourth quarter and year-end conference call. 2025 was a very good year.
Speaker #1: We might have actually expected it to be even better, but we didn't quite get the growth we were looking for. But still, overall, a very strong year.
Speaker #1: We focused on credit. We focused on keeping our margins. All in all, it was very good. A couple of highlights. We renewed or actually, we signed a new warehouse line with Capital One for $150 million.
Speaker #1: We also signed a $900 million prime forward flow commitment. Both of those will be very instrumental in how we grow and what we're going to do in 2026.
Charles E. Bradley, Jr.: The company has done well enough to where lots of people, banks and such, not to mention the investors on the securitizations, are very eager to either buy our bonds or lend us money. We're in a very good spot in terms of moving into 2026. 2026, you know, as a quick peek, already looks like it could be very, very good. 2025 was really good. Again, we had focused on getting the 2022 and 2023 paper that was not particularly profitable and didn't perform as well as we would've liked. I think at the beginning of 2025, that was almost 40% or more of the portfolio. Today it's 26%. We would expect that number to gradually decrease over the year to where it's de minimis by the end of 2026.
Charles Bradley: The company has done well enough to where lots of people, banks and such, not to mention the investors on the securitizations, are very eager to either buy our bonds or lend us money. We're in a very good spot in terms of moving into 2026. 2026, you know, as a quick peek, already looks like it could be very, very good. 2025 was really good. Again, we had focused on getting the 2022 and 2023 paper that was not particularly profitable and didn't perform as well as we would've liked. I think at the beginning of 2025, that was almost 40% or more of the portfolio. Today it's 26%. We would expect that number to gradually decrease over the year to where it's de minimis by the end of 2026.
Speaker #1: But more highlight on that is the fact that credit is readily available. The company has done well enough to where lots of people, banks, and such—not to mention the investors on the securitizations—are very eager to either buy our bonds or lend us money.
Speaker #1: So we're in a very good spot in terms of moving into '26. '26 is a quick peek. Already looks like it could be very, very good.
Speaker #1: '25 was really good. Again, we had focused on getting the '22 and '23 paper, which was not particularly profitable and didn't perform as well as we would have liked.
Speaker #1: I think at the beginning of '25, that was almost 40% or more of the portfolio. Today, it's 26. We would expect that number to gradually decrease over the year to where it's de minimis by the end of '26.
Charles E. Bradley, Jr.: Getting that kind of piece of bad credit out of the portfolio is very good. Portfolio is nearly $4 billion. We expect that to grow substantially in the coming year. We've now reached a size where, you know, we're really at a good size in terms of our industry standing. Overall, we're in a very good position. Credit remains strong. Interest rates look good. We'll get back to that more, but for now I'll turn it over to Danny to go through the financials.
Charles Bradley: Getting that kind of piece of bad credit out of the portfolio is very good. Portfolio is nearly $4 billion. We expect that to grow substantially in the coming year. We've now reached a size where, you know, we're really at a good size in terms of our industry standing. Overall, we're in a very good position. Credit remains strong. Interest rates look good. We'll get back to that more, but for now I'll turn it over to Danny to go through the financials.
Speaker #1: So, getting that kind of piece of bad credit out of the portfolio is very good. The portfolio is nearly $4 billion. We expect that to grow substantially in the coming year.
Speaker #1: We've now reached a size where we're really at a good size in terms of our industry standing. Overall, we're in a very good position.
Speaker #1: Credit remains strong. Interest rates look good. We'll get back to that more, but for now, I'll turn it over to Danny to go through the financials.
Danny Bharwani: Thank you, Brad. Looking at some of the numbers, revenues for Q4, $109.4 million is a 4% increase over the $105.3 million in Q4 of 2024. For the full year 2025, revenues were $434 million, a 10% increase over the $393 million in 2024. The interest income on our fair value portfolio is the main driver of that, of our total revenues, and that is actually up 16% year-over-year. The fair value portfolio now sits at $3.6 billion and is yielding 11.4%, remembering that that yield is net of expected losses. Outside of interest income, the other component of our revenues is our fair value marks.
Danny Bharwani: Thank you, Brad. Looking at some of the numbers, revenues for Q4, $109.4 million is a 4% increase over the $105.3 million in Q4 of 2024. For the full year 2025, revenues were $434 million, a 10% increase over the $393 million in 2024. The interest income on our fair value portfolio is the main driver of that, of our total revenues, and that is actually up 16% year-over-year. The fair value portfolio now sits at $3.6 billion and is yielding 11.4%, remembering that that yield is net of expected losses. Outside of interest income, the other component of our revenues is our fair value marks.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Brad. Looking at some of the numbers, revenues for the fourth quarter, $109.4 is a 4% increase over the $105.3 in the fourth quarter of 2024.
Speaker #1: For the full year 2025, revenues were $434 million, which is a 10% increase over the $393 million in 2024. The interest income on our fair value portfolio is the main driver of our total revenues.
Speaker #1: And that is actually up 16% year over year. The fair value portfolio now sits at $3.6 billion and is yielding 11.4%. Remember, that yield is net of expected losses.
Speaker #1: Outside of interest income, the other component of our revenues are our fair value marks. These are adjustments to our fair value portfolio that we occasionally record to revenues as needed.
Danny Bharwani: These are adjustments to our fair value portfolio that we occasionally record to revenues as needed. We had no marks in Q4 of 2025 compared to $5 million in Q4 the year before. For the full year, we had fair value marks of $6.5 million compared to $21 million the prior year. In terms of expenses for Q4, $102.2 million is a 4% increase over the $98 million in Q4 of 2024. For the full year 2025 expenses were $406 million, which is 11% higher than the $366 million in 2024. The biggest component of that increase is interest expense. Interest expense was $59 million in Q4.
Danny Bharwani: These are adjustments to our fair value portfolio that we occasionally record to revenues as needed. We had no marks in Q4 of 2025 compared to $5 million in Q4 the year before. For the full year, we had fair value marks of $6.5 million compared to $21 million the prior year. In terms of expenses for Q4, $102.2 million is a 4% increase over the $98 million in Q4 of 2024. For the full year 2025 expenses were $406 million, which is 11% higher than the $366 million in 2024. The biggest component of that increase is interest expense. Interest expense was $59 million in Q4.
Speaker #1: We had no marks in the fourth quarter of 2025, compared to $5 million in the fourth quarter the year before. For the full year, we had fair value marks of $6.5 million, compared to $21 million the prior year.
Speaker #1: In terms of expenses for the fourth quarter, $102.2 million is a 4% increase over the $98 million in the fourth quarter of '24. For the full year '25, expenses were $406 million, which is 11% higher than the $366 million in 2024.
Speaker #1: The biggest component of that increase is interest expense. Interest expense is $59 million in the fourth quarter. It's $53 million in the fourth quarter a year ago.
Danny Bharwani: It was $53 million in the Q4 a year ago, and that's a 13% increase. That increase is largely due to our higher securitization debt balance from our higher loan portfolio. Our loan portfolio, which I'll cover when we look at the balance sheet. Actually, the securitization debt from that loan portfolio is up 15% year-over-year. Looking at pre-tax earnings, $7.2 million for the Q4 compared to $7.4 million in 2024. For the full year, pre-tax earnings was $28 million compared to $27.4 million for the full year 2024. If you look deeper into the numbers and exclude the fair value marks, pre-tax income would have been $7.2 million in the Q4 compared to $2.4 million in the Q4 of 2024.
Danny Bharwani: It was $53 million in the Q4 a year ago, and that's a 13% increase. That increase is largely due to our higher securitization debt balance from our higher loan portfolio. Our loan portfolio, which I'll cover when we look at the balance sheet. Actually, the securitization debt from that loan portfolio is up 15% year-over-year. Looking at pre-tax earnings, $7.2 million for the Q4 compared to $7.4 million in 2024. For the full year, pre-tax earnings was $28 million compared to $27.4 million for the full year 2024. If you look deeper into the numbers and exclude the fair value marks, pre-tax income would have been $7.2 million in the Q4 compared to $2.4 million in the Q4 of 2024.
Speaker #1: And that's a 13% increase. That increase is largely due to our higher securitization debt balance from our higher loan portfolio. Our loan portfolio, which I'll cover when we look at the balance sheet, but the loan portfolio is actually the securitization debt from that loan portfolio is up 15% year over year.
Speaker #1: Looking at pre-tax earnings, $7.2 million for the fourth quarter compared to $7.4 million in 2024. For the full year, pre-tax earnings was $28 million.
Speaker #1: Compared to '27.4 million for the full year, 2024. If you look deeper into the numbers and exclude the fair value marks, pre-tax income would have been $7.2 million in the fourth quarter.
Danny Bharwani: There is some significant improvement there if you strip out the marks and focus on interest income. For the full year, the pre-tax income would have been $21.5 million in 2025 compared to $6.4 million in 2024. Again, there's significant improvement in 2025 if you exclude the non-recurring items. Net income for the quarter, $5 million compared to $5.1 in Q4 of 2024. For the full year, net income $19.3 million compared to $19.2 million in 2024. Similar trends for net income as pre-tax income. Again, if you exclude the fair value marks in 2024, which were higher than 2025, there is significant improvement there. Diluted earnings per share, $0.21, flat from the $0.21 in Q4 last year.
Danny Bharwani: There is some significant improvement there if you strip out the marks and focus on interest income. For the full year, the pre-tax income would have been $21.5 million in 2025 compared to $6.4 million in 2024. Again, there's significant improvement in 2025 if you exclude the non-recurring items. Net income for the quarter, $5 million compared to $5.1 in Q4 of 2024. For the full year, net income $19.3 million compared to $19.2 million in 2024. Similar trends for net income as pre-tax income. Again, if you exclude the fair value marks in 2024, which were higher than 2025, there is significant improvement there. Diluted earnings per share, $0.21, flat from the $0.21 in Q4 last year.
Speaker #1: Compared to $2.4 million in the fourth quarter of '24. So there is some significant improvement there if you strip out the marks and focus on interest income.
Speaker #1: For the full year, the pre-tax income would have been $21.5 million in 2025 compared to $6.4 million in 2024. So again, there's significant improvement in 2025 if you exclude the non-recurring items.
Speaker #1: Net income for the quarter $5 million compared to $5.1 in the fourth quarter of '24. For the full year, net income $19.3 million compared to $19.2 million in 2024.
Speaker #1: Similar trends for net income as pre-tax income. But again, if you exclude the fair value marks in 2024, which were higher than '25, there is significant improvement there.
Speaker #1: Diluted earnings per share of $0.21 is flat from the $0.21 in the fourth quarter last year. For the full year, $0.80 versus $0.79 in 2024.
Danny Bharwani: For the full-year, $0.80 versus $0.79 in 2024. Moving now to the balance sheet. Our cash and restricted cash finished the year at $172.2 million, which is up from $137.4 million at the end of 2024. Our fair value portfolio is up 10% to $3.655 billion, compared to $3.3 billion at the end of 2024. Looking at our debt, I guess the biggest jump would be from our securitization debt we talked about earlier. 15% higher to $2.986 billion, compared to $2.594 billion in the prior year. Moving to shareholders' equity.
Danny Bharwani: For the full-year, $0.80 versus $0.79 in 2024. Moving now to the balance sheet. Our cash and restricted cash finished the year at $172.2 million, which is up from $137.4 million at the end of 2024. Our fair value portfolio is up 10% to $3.655 billion, compared to $3.3 billion at the end of 2024. Looking at our debt, I guess the biggest jump would be from our securitization debt we talked about earlier. 15% higher to $2.986 billion, compared to $2.594 billion in the prior year. Moving to shareholders' equity.
Speaker #1: Moving now to the balance sheet, our total cash and restricted cash finished the year at $172.2 million, which is up from $137.4 million at the end of 2024.
Speaker #1: Our fair value portfolio is up 10% to $3.655 billion compared to $3.3 billion at the end of 2024. Looking at our debt, I guess the biggest jump would be from our securitization debt.
Speaker #1: As we talked about earlier, revenue was 15% higher at $2.986 billion, compared to $2.594 billion in the prior year. Moving to shareholders' equity, the $309.5 million ending balance for equity at the end of December 2025 is a 6% increase over $292.8 million at the end of 2024.
Danny Bharwani: The $309.5 million ending balance for equity at the end of December 2025 is a 6% increase over $292.8 million at the end of 2024. Equity continues to climb and currently sits on an all-time high for us. This translates to a book value when measured on a fully diluted basis to about $13 a share. Looking at other important metrics. Our net interest margin, $50.1 million in Q4 compared to $52.8 million in Q4 of 2024. Full year net interest margin, $202.5 million, flat from $202.3 million in 2024. Again, the marks, less marks in 2025 from the fair value portfolio has an impact on that.
Danny Bharwani: The $309.5 million ending balance for equity at the end of December 2025 is a 6% increase over $292.8 million at the end of 2024. Equity continues to climb and currently sits on an all-time high for us. This translates to a book value when measured on a fully diluted basis to about $13 a share. Looking at other important metrics. Our net interest margin, $50.1 million in Q4 compared to $52.8 million in Q4 of 2024. Full year net interest margin, $202.5 million, flat from $202.3 million in 2024. Again, the marks, less marks in 2025 from the fair value portfolio has an impact on that.
Speaker #1: Equity continues to climb and currently sits on an all-time high for us. This translates to a book value when measured on a fully diluted basis to about $13 a share.
Speaker #1: Looking at other important metrics, our net interest margin was $50.1 million in the fourth quarter compared to $52.8 million in the fourth quarter of '24.
Speaker #1: Full year, net interest margin of $202.5 million is flat from $202.3 million in 2024. Again, the marks—less marks in 2025—from the fair value portfolio has an impact on that.
Danny Bharwani: If you strip that out, the net interest margin would have been $50.1 million versus $47.8. For the full year, $196 million versus $181 million, which is an 8% increase year-over-year. Our core operating expenses, $43.4 million in Q4 compared to $46.2, is a 6% decrease. For the full year, core operating expenses of $177 million is down 2% from $180 million last year.
Danny Bharwani: If you strip that out, the net interest margin would have been $50.1 million versus $47.8. For the full year, $196 million versus $181 million, which is an 8% increase year-over-year. Our core operating expenses, $43.4 million in Q4 compared to $46.2, is a 6% decrease. For the full year, core operating expenses of $177 million is down 2% from $180 million last year.
Speaker #1: If you strip that out, the net interest margin would have been $50.1 million versus $47.8 million. And for the full year, $196 million versus $181 million, which is an 8% increase year over year.
Speaker #1: Our core operating expenses were $43.4 million in the fourth quarter, compared to $46.2 million—a 6% decrease. For the full year, core operating expenses of $177 million are down 2% from $180 million last year.
Danny Bharwani: Besides growing our auto loan portfolio and increasing our interest income, we've also put a lot of focus on improving operating efficiencies, which you can see in the decline in our core operating expenses as a percentage of the managed portfolio, which is now down to 4.8% from 5.6% a year ago. I will turn the call over to Mike.
Danny Bharwani: Besides growing our auto loan portfolio and increasing our interest income, we've also put a lot of focus on improving operating efficiencies, which you can see in the decline in our core operating expenses as a percentage of the managed portfolio, which is now down to 4.8% from 5.6% a year ago. I will turn the call over to Mike.
Speaker #1: So besides growing our auto loan portfolio and increasing our interest income, we've also put a lot of focus on improving operating efficiencies which you can see in the decline in our core operating expenses as a percentage of the managed portfolio.
Speaker #1: Which is now down to 4.8% from 5.6% a year ago. I will turn the call over to Mike.
Michael T. Lavin: Thanks, Danny. A few operational notes today. In Q4 2025, we originated $363 million of new contracts. For the full year of 2025, we purchased $1.638 billion of new contracts, compared to $1.682 billion during the same period in 2024. Pretty good year, as Brad said, but a little flat. In 2025, ended up being our third-best origination year in our 35-year history. This, despite our continued practice of originating with the tight credit box, which we did in 2025. We heard from the trenches that dealers were reporting lower foot traffic. We saw at times increased, and in some cases, irrational competition for less business.
Mike Lavin: Thanks, Danny. A few operational notes today. In Q4 2025, we originated $363 million of new contracts. For the full year of 2025, we purchased $1.638 billion of new contracts, compared to $1.682 billion during the same period in 2024. Pretty good year, as Brad said, but a little flat. In 2025, ended up being our third-best origination year in our 35-year history. This, despite our continued practice of originating with the tight credit box, which we did in 2025. We heard from the trenches that dealers were reporting lower foot traffic. We saw at times increased, and in some cases, irrational competition for less business.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Danny. A few operational notes today. In the fourth quarter of 2025, we originated $363 million of new contracts. For the full year of 2025, we purchased $1.638 billion of new contracts, compared to $1.682 billion during the same period in 2024.
Speaker #2: So, pretty good year as Brad said, but a little flat. In 2025, it ended up being our third-best origination year in our 35-year history.
Speaker #2: This despite our continued practice of originating with a tight credit box, which we did in '25. We heard from the trenches that dealers were reporting lower foot traffic.
Speaker #2: And we saw, at times, increased and in some cases irrational competition for less business. So overall, when you consider all the factors that were against us, $1.62 billion was a pretty good year.
Michael T. Lavin: Overall, when you consider all the factors that were against us, $1.62 billion was a pretty good year. In Q4 2025, we grew our portfolio of assets under management from $3.76 billion to $3.779 billion. For the full year, we grew the portfolio from $3.4 billion to $3.7 billion, which is an increase of 8.24%. Our focus in Q4 and as we turn to the new year is to grow via one, hiring new sales reps and adding new territories. I think the second one is adding more active dealers to our funding dealer pool. We've been successful doing that in Q4. We added about 1,000 in January or I'm sorry, in December alone.
Mike Lavin: Overall, when you consider all the factors that were against us, $1.62 billion was a pretty good year. In Q4 2025, we grew our portfolio of assets under management from $3.76 billion to $3.779 billion. For the full year, we grew the portfolio from $3.4 billion to $3.7 billion, which is an increase of 8.24%. Our focus in Q4 and as we turn to the new year is to grow via one, hiring new sales reps and adding new territories. I think the second one is adding more active dealers to our funding dealer pool. We've been successful doing that in Q4. We added about 1,000 in January or I'm sorry, in December alone.
Speaker #2: In the fourth quarter of 2025, we grew our portfolio of assets under management from $3.76 billion to $3.779 billion. And for the full year, we grew the portfolio from $3.4 billion to $3.7 billion, which is an increase of 8.24%.
Speaker #2: Our focus in Q4, and as we turn to the new year, is to grow via, one, hiring new sales reps and adding new territories.
Speaker #2: I think the second one is adding more active dealers to our funding dealer pool. We've been successful doing that in the fourth quarter. We added about 1,000 in January.
Michael T. Lavin: Three, we have a goal to drive our applications from 250,000 a month to 325,000 a month. Four, we started doing this in the Q4 and into this year so far, is mix in some strategic risk initiatives that we've seen be successful so far. Also in the Q4, we implemented our Generation Nine credit scoring model that, as with our previous generation models, utilizes AI and machine learning in its development. We have found that, at least so far, the new model has increased our approvals 11%. They were running in the low 40 percentiles, and now they're running in the low 50 percentiles. It's kept our capture flat, which is good news.
Mike Lavin: Three, we have a goal to drive our applications from 250,000 a month to 325,000 a month. Four, we started doing this in the Q4 and into this year so far, is mix in some strategic risk initiatives that we've seen be successful so far. Also in the Q4, we implemented our Generation Nine credit scoring model that, as with our previous generation models, utilizes AI and machine learning in its development. We have found that, at least so far, the new model has increased our approvals 11%. They were running in the low 40 percentiles, and now they're running in the low 50 percentiles. It's kept our capture flat, which is good news.
Speaker #2: Or I'm sorry, in December. Alone. Three we have a goal to drive our applications from 250,000 a month to 325,000 a month. And four, we started doing this in the fourth quarter and into this year.
Speaker #2: So far as mixing some strategic risk initiatives that we've seen be successful so far. Also in the fourth quarter, we implemented our generation nine credit scoring model.
Speaker #2: That as with our previous generation models, utilizes AI and machine learning in its development. We have found that at least so far, the new model has increased our approvals 11%.
Speaker #2: So they were running in the low 40 percentiles, and now they're running in the low 50th percentiles. It's kept our capture flat, which is good news.
Michael T. Lavin: You know, doing the math, it's increased our total fundings about 8.4% just by implementing that new model. Also in Q4, as Brad alluded to, a little more detail on the partnership regarding the Prime program. We partnered with a large credit union to source, originate, and service Prime auto loans. As part of that deal, we get an origination fee and a servicing fee to sell that credit union Prime auto loans that we source. Interestingly, the credit union has committed to buying up to $50 million a month, $600 million annually, over 18 months, $900 million commitment.
Mike Lavin: You know, doing the math, it's increased our total fundings about 8.4% just by implementing that new model. Also in Q4, as Brad alluded to, a little more detail on the partnership regarding the Prime program. We partnered with a large credit union to source, originate, and service Prime auto loans. As part of that deal, we get an origination fee and a servicing fee to sell that credit union Prime auto loans that we source. Interestingly, the credit union has committed to buying up to $50 million a month, $600 million annually, over 18 months, $900 million commitment.
Speaker #2: And doing the math, it's increased our total fundings about 8.4% just by implementing that new model. Also, in the fourth quarter, as Brad alluded to—with a little more detail—on the partnership, regarding the Prime program, we partnered with a large credit union to source, originate, and service prime auto loans.
Speaker #2: As part of that deal, we get an origination fee and a servicing fee to sell that credit union prime auto loans that we source.
Speaker #2: Interestingly, the credit union has committed to buying up the $50 million a month, $600 million annually, over 18 months, $900 million commitment. But it's important to note that we think that the growth will be a slow buildup as we kind of have to rebrand ourselves to our dealer base as more of a full spectrum lender.
Michael T. Lavin: It's important to note that we think that the growth will be a slow build-up as we kind of have to rebrand ourselves to our dealer base as more of a full spectrum lender, considering we've been a subprime lender for 35 years. We're getting good feedback from the dealers. We're growing month-over-month. Again, it's gonna be a slow build. I kinda compare it to when we started our Meta Near Prime program years ago. It didn't come out of the gates too strong, but eventually, you know, it's now 5% to 6% of our originations, and we're kinda hoping the Prime program gets to be about the same. Just sort of following up on what Danny said on our OpEx.
Mike Lavin: It's important to note that we think that the growth will be a slow build-up as we kind of have to rebrand ourselves to our dealer base as more of a full spectrum lender, considering we've been a subprime lender for 35 years. We're getting good feedback from the dealers. We're growing month-over-month. Again, it's gonna be a slow build. I kinda compare it to when we started our Meta Near Prime program years ago. It didn't come out of the gates too strong, but eventually, you know, it's now 5% to 6% of our originations, and we're kinda hoping the Prime program gets to be about the same. Just sort of following up on what Danny said on our OpEx.
Speaker #2: Considering we've been a subprime lender for 35 years, we're getting good feedback from the dealers. We're growing month over month. But again, it's going to be a slow build.
Speaker #2: I kind of compare it to when we started our meta near-prime program years ago. It didn't come out of the gate too strong, but eventually it's now five to six percent of our originations, and we're kind of hoping the prime program gets to be about the same.
Michael T. Lavin: We were able to decrease it year over year from 2024 to 2025 by 14%. One note is on the employee cost front, we were able to lower our employee cost as a percent of the portfolio from 2.6% in 2024 to 2.4% in 2025. You know, we did this despite growing the portfolio 8.24%. That's a little more evidence that we've properly scaled the business. We're at the right size. You know, as we continue to grow in 2026, we look for that OpEx to continue to trend downward.
Mike Lavin: We were able to decrease it year over year from 2024 to 2025 by 14%. One note is on the employee cost front, we were able to lower our employee cost as a percent of the portfolio from 2.6% in 2024 to 2.4% in 2025. You know, we did this despite growing the portfolio 8.24%. That's a little more evidence that we've properly scaled the business. We're at the right size. You know, as we continue to grow in 2026, we look for that OpEx to continue to trend downward.
Speaker #2: Just sort of following up on what Danny said on our OPEX, we were able to decrease it year over year from '24 to '25 by 14%.
Speaker #2: One note is on the employee cost front, we were able to lower our employee costs as a percent of the portfolio from 2.6% in 2024 to 2.4% in 2025.
Speaker #2: And we did this despite growing the portfolio 8.24%. That's a little more evidence that we've properly scaled the business. We're at the right size.
Speaker #2: And as we continue to grow in 2026, we look for that OPEX to continue to trend downward. Turning to credit performance, the total DQ greater than 30 days for the full year 2025 was 14.77% as compared to 14.85% for the full year 2024.
Michael T. Lavin: Turning to credit performance, the total DQ greater than 30 days for the full year 2025 was 14.77%, as compared to 14.85% for the full year of 2024. The total annualized net charge-offs for the full year 2025 was 7.76%, as compared to 7.62% for the full year of 2024. Further, repossessions were down a little bit year-over-year. Potential DQs, which we call POTS, were down year-over-year, and extensions remain at our historical average as a percent of the portfolio. Our extensions are also about the same as benchmarked against our competitors in the subprime space.
Mike Lavin: Turning to credit performance, the total DQ greater than 30 days for the full year 2025 was 14.77%, as compared to 14.85% for the full year of 2024. The total annualized net charge-offs for the full year 2025 was 7.76%, as compared to 7.62% for the full year of 2024. Further, repossessions were down a little bit year-over-year. Potential DQs, which we call POTS, were down year-over-year, and extensions remain at our historical average as a percent of the portfolio. Our extensions are also about the same as benchmarked against our competitors in the subprime space.
Speaker #2: The total annualized net charge-offs for the full year 2025 was 7.76% as compared to 7.62% for the full year 2024. Further, repossessions were down a little bit year over year.
Speaker #2: Potential DQs, which we call POTS, were down year over year. And extensions remained at our historical average as a percent of the portfolio. Our extensions are also about the same as benchmarked against our competitors.
Michael T. Lavin: Taken together, our improved portfolio performance in 2025 was quite an accomplishment, considering the macroeconomic headwinds we faced in servicing with affordability, stubborn inflation, increased interest rates, some stagnant wage growth affecting, you know, some of our customers' cash flow. We found that using the right collection techniques and processes, you know, along with our customers still prioritizing their car payments, sort of fought off those trends. I mean, to lower delinquency year-over-year in this environment is quite a tip of the hat to our servicing department. Looking more closely at the vintage performance, we continue to see significant positive credit performance, sort of starting with our 2023 D vintage and continuing vintage-over-vintage through 2025.
Mike Lavin: Taken together, our improved portfolio performance in 2025 was quite an accomplishment, considering the macroeconomic headwinds we faced in servicing with affordability, stubborn inflation, increased interest rates, some stagnant wage growth affecting, you know, some of our customers' cash flow. We found that using the right collection techniques and processes, you know, along with our customers still prioritizing their car payments, sort of fought off those trends. I mean, to lower delinquency year-over-year in this environment is quite a tip of the hat to our servicing department. Looking more closely at the vintage performance, we continue to see significant positive credit performance, sort of starting with our 2023 D vintage and continuing vintage-over-vintage through 2025.
Speaker #2: In the subprime space. So, taken together, our improved portfolio performance in 2025 was quite an accomplishment considering the macroeconomic headwinds we faced in servicing with affordability, stubborn inflation, increased interest rates, and some stagnant wage growth affecting some of our customers' cash flow.
Speaker #2: We found that using the right collection techniques and processes, along with our customers still prioritizing their car payments, sort of fought off those trends.
Speaker #2: I mean, to lower delinquency year over year, in this environment, is quite a tip of the hat to our servicing department. Looking more closely at the vintage performance, we continue to see significant positive credit performance, sort of starting with our 2023 D vintage and continuing vintage over vintage through 2025.
Michael T. Lavin: Now that it has more time to season, we're sort of looking at the 2024 vintage performance as being a positive result, probably due to our credit tightening that we took in early 2023 and we continue to do today. It's early, but a sneak peek at our 2025 vintages shows even better potential for that performance than the 2024s. As Brad alluded to, the troubled 2022 vintage and 2023 vintages are running off quickly. As compared to our competitors' credit performance, the Intex data that our bond investors use to evaluate the space reveals that we remain among the very best credit performers in the subprime space, when you compare us apples to apples to our competitors.
Mike Lavin: Now that it has more time to season, we're sort of looking at the 2024 vintage performance as being a positive result, probably due to our credit tightening that we took in early 2023 and we continue to do today. It's early, but a sneak peek at our 2025 vintages shows even better potential for that performance than the 2024s. As Brad alluded to, the troubled 2022 vintage and 2023 vintages are running off quickly. As compared to our competitors' credit performance, the Intex data that our bond investors use to evaluate the space reveals that we remain among the very best credit performers in the subprime space, when you compare us apples to apples to our competitors.
Speaker #2: Now that it has more time to season, and we're sort of looking at the 2024 vintage performance as being a positive result, probably due to our credit tightening that we took in early 2023.
Speaker #2: And we continue to do today. It's early, but a steep peek at our '25 vintages shows even better potential for that performance than the '24s.
Speaker #2: As Brad alluded to, the troubled 2022 vintage and 2023 vintages are running off quickly. And as compared to our competitors' credit performance, the Intex data that our bond investors use to evaluate the space reveals that we remain among the very best credit performers in the subprime space when you compare us apples to apples to our competitors.
Michael T. Lavin: Finally, turning to recoveries, they remain somewhat relatively light, settling into the 28% to 30% range. We typically want them to be in the low 40s, but our analysis suggests that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Our data revealed that recoveries for vehicles from the 2022 and 2023 vintages, those cars, are actually dragging down our overall recoveries. For example, in Q4 2025, looking at Q4, vehicles from the 2022 vintage were recovering at about 20.5%, and vehicles from the 2023 vintage were recovering 22.9% on the recovery.
Mike Lavin: Finally, turning to recoveries, they remain somewhat relatively light, settling into the 28% to 30% range. We typically want them to be in the low 40s, but our analysis suggests that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Our data revealed that recoveries for vehicles from the 2022 and 2023 vintages, those cars, are actually dragging down our overall recoveries. For example, in Q4 2025, looking at Q4, vehicles from the 2022 vintage were recovering at about 20.5%, and vehicles from the 2023 vintage were recovering 22.9% on the recovery.
Speaker #2: Finally, turning to recoveries, they remain somewhat relatively light settling into the 28 to 30 percent range. We typically want them to be in the low 40s but our analysis suggests that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker #2: Our data revealed that recoveries for vehicles from the 2022 and 2023 vintages those cars are actually dragging down our overall recoveries. So for example, in Q4, 2025, looking at Q4, vehicles from the 2022 vintage were at were recovering at about 20.5% and vehicles from the 2023 vintage were recovering 22.9% on the recovery.
Michael T. Lavin: Compare that to, you know, recoveries on the 24 vintages are more palatable at 36.3%, and recoveries for the 25 vintage, at least so far, are hitting 43.4%. We feel once the 2022 and 2023 vintages sort of flesh out, as Brad said, by the end of this year, our recoveries will get back to normal. As everybody knows, recoveries are a critical part of reducing our losses and increasing our net income. With that, I'll throw it back to Brad.
Mike Lavin: Compare that to, you know, recoveries on the 24 vintages are more palatable at 36.3%, and recoveries for the 25 vintage, at least so far, are hitting 43.4%. We feel once the 2022 and 2023 vintages sort of flesh out, as Brad said, by the end of this year, our recoveries will get back to normal. As everybody knows, recoveries are a critical part of reducing our losses and increasing our net income. With that, I'll throw it back to Brad.
Speaker #2: Compare that to recoveries on the 24 vintages are more palatable at 36.3% and recoveries for the 25 vintage, at least so far, are hitting 43.4%.
Speaker #2: So we feel once the 2022 and 2023 vintages sort of flush out, as Brad said, by the end of this year, our recoveries will get back to normal.
Speaker #2: And, as everybody knows, recoveries are a critical part of reducing our losses and increasing our net income. And with that, I'll throw it back to Brad.
Charles E. Bradley, Jr.: Thank you, Mike. Switching over, taking a look at our industry. Normally, there's not a lot going on in the industry. As we've sort of pointed out already that it was a little bit slow. Traffic was down in the dealerships. That seems to have changed in 2026 so far. The interesting notes were GLS, one of our friendly competitors, got purchased. I think it was a very good valuation, or extremely good valuation. So having that happen was interesting. Also, Flagship, which kind of had been sinking for a while, was purchased also, but again, more at a discount. I think Flagship, for all intents and purposes, had ceased originations when they were sold. That would be, you know, some M&A movement in the industry.
Charles Bradley: Thank you, Mike. Switching over, taking a look at our industry. Normally, there's not a lot going on in the industry. As we've sort of pointed out already that it was a little bit slow. Traffic was down in the dealerships. That seems to have changed in 2026 so far. The interesting notes were GLS, one of our friendly competitors, got purchased. I think it was a very good valuation, or extremely good valuation. So having that happen was interesting. Also, Flagship, which kind of had been sinking for a while, was purchased also, but again, more at a discount. I think Flagship, for all intents and purposes, had ceased originations when they were sold. That would be, you know, some M&A movement in the industry.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Mike. Switching over, taking a look at our industry. Normally, there's not a lot going on in the industry. As we've sort of pointed out already, that there was a little bit slow traffic was down in the dealerships.
Speaker #1: That seems to have changed in '26 so far. But the interesting notes were GLS, one of our friendly competitors, got purchased. I think that's a good it was a very good valuation.
Speaker #1: Or extremely good valuation. So having that happen was interesting. Also, Flagship, which kind of had been sinking for a while, was purchased also. But again, more at a discount.
Speaker #1: I think Flagship, for all intents and purposes, had ceased originations when they were sold. But that would be some M&A movement in the industry.
Charles E. Bradley, Jr.: Lastly, Prestige more recently stopped originating loans as well. You don't really see a lot in our industry. More importantly, we've seen almost no new entrants into our industry in, like, 5 years. It's gotten to the point where unless you really have some size, which we'll call a minimum of a billion-dollar portfolio, you're really in a tough competitive standpoint within the industry. Being at 4 and on our way growing puts us in a very good spot. Having a couple of our competitors go away and maybe try and reinvent themselves is fine. Certainly Prestige is not. Having this sale for GLS puts valuation on some of the, on the industry players. All good news across the board. I think, you know, the industry is very solid without having people blow up.
Charles Bradley: Lastly, Prestige more recently stopped originating loans as well. You don't really see a lot in our industry. More importantly, we've seen almost no new entrants into our industry in, like, 5 years. It's gotten to the point where unless you really have some size, which we'll call a minimum of a billion-dollar portfolio, you're really in a tough competitive standpoint within the industry. Being at 4 and on our way growing puts us in a very good spot. Having a couple of our competitors go away and maybe try and reinvent themselves is fine. Certainly Prestige is not. Having this sale for GLS puts valuation on some of the, on the industry players. All good news across the board. I think, you know, the industry is very solid without having people blow up.
Speaker #1: And lastly, Prestige, more recently, stopped originating loans as well. And you don't really see a lot in our industry. More importantly, we've seen almost no new entrants into our industry in, like, five years.
Speaker #1: So it's gotten to the point where unless you really have some size, which we'll call a minimum of a billion dollar portfolio, you're really in a tough competitive standpoint within the industry.
Speaker #1: So being at four and on our way growing, puts us in a very good spot. Having a couple of our competitors go away and maybe try and reinvent themselves is fine.
Speaker #1: Certainly, Prestige is not. And then having the sale for GLS puts a valuation on some of the on the industry players. All good news across that board.
Speaker #1: I think the industry is very solid without having people blow up. The Tricolor thing was a bump in the road, but really had nothing to do with the real industry.
Charles E. Bradley, Jr.: The Tricolor thing was a bump in the road, but really had nothing to do with the real industry. It did affect the markets slightly for us in doing a securitization, and that had no impact whatsoever. You know, so moving into the future, what we care about, as we've mentioned many times, are the interest rates and unemployment. We believe the interest rate environment is very positive. If anything, the interest rates may come down as opposed to go up. Down is obviously way better. As long as they're not going up, we're kinda fine with where they are, but it'd be nice if they came down a little bit more because those pretty much go straight to the bottom line, those improvements. Unemployment seems to be really steady. Unemployment could bounce around a little bit, and we really wouldn't be affected.
Charles Bradley: The Tricolor thing was a bump in the road, but really had nothing to do with the real industry. It did affect the markets slightly for us in doing a securitization, and that had no impact whatsoever. You know, so moving into the future, what we care about, as we've mentioned many times, are the interest rates and unemployment. We believe the interest rate environment is very positive. If anything, the interest rates may come down as opposed to go up. Down is obviously way better. As long as they're not going up, we're kinda fine with where they are, but it'd be nice if they came down a little bit more because those pretty much go straight to the bottom line, those improvements. Unemployment seems to be really steady. Unemployment could bounce around a little bit, and we really wouldn't be affected.
Speaker #1: It did affect the market slightly for us in doing a securitization; other than that, it had no impact whatsoever. So, moving into the future, what we care about—as we've mentioned many times—are the interest rates and unemployment.
Speaker #1: We believe the interest rate environment is very positive. If anything, the interest rates may come down as opposed to go up. Down is obviously way better.
Speaker #1: As long as they're not going up, we're kind of fine with where they are. But it'd be nice if they came down a little bit more.
Speaker #1: Because those pretty much go straight to the bottom line—those improvements. Unemployment seems to be relatively steady. Unemployment could bounce around a little bit.
Charles E. Bradley, Jr.: We really don't want unemployment to skyrocket. Obviously, that could trigger sort of a recession, which is all bad. We don't really see any of that. We see unemployment holding steady. We see interest rates steady or coming down. It really sets us up for a very good environment right now. Generally, other than the Iran war, which hopefully will go away pretty soon, the economy seems very stable and very strong. Again, we would think 2026 and beyond looks very positive in terms of where we're going with the company. You know, having said that, I mean, our goal in 2026 is to focus on growth. We want those margins to improve through better interest rates. We want the overall portfolio performance to improve by getting rid of that 2022 and 2023 paper.
Charles Bradley: We really don't want unemployment to skyrocket. Obviously, that could trigger sort of a recession, which is all bad. We don't really see any of that. We see unemployment holding steady. We see interest rates steady or coming down. It really sets us up for a very good environment right now. Generally, other than the Iran war, which hopefully will go away pretty soon, the economy seems very stable and very strong. Again, we would think 2026 and beyond looks very positive in terms of where we're going with the company. You know, having said that, I mean, our goal in 2026 is to focus on growth. We want those margins to improve through better interest rates. We want the overall portfolio performance to improve by getting rid of that 2022 and 2023 paper.
Speaker #1: And we really wouldn't be affected. We really don't want unemployment to skyrocket. Obviously, that could trigger sort of a recession, which is all bad.
Speaker #1: But we don't really see any of that. We see unemployment holding steady. We see interest rates steady or coming down. It really sets us up for a very good environment right now.
Speaker #1: Generally, other than the Iran war—which hopefully will go away pretty soon—the economy seems very stable and very strong. Again, we would think 2026 and beyond looks very positive in terms of where we're going with the company.
Speaker #1: So, having said that, I mean, our goal in '26 is to focus on growth. We want those margins to improve through better interest rates.
Speaker #1: We want the overall portfolio performance to improve by getting rid of that 22 and 23 paper. We believe a good economy is good. We think we're, as I mentioned earlier, in a great position to raise money.
Charles E. Bradley, Jr.: We believe a good economy is good. We think we're, as I mentioned earlier, in a great position to raise money. We did a residual deal recently, which is cheaper by a bunch than the last couple we've done. Again, there's a lot of favorable headwinds or, excuse me, tailwinds as we move into 2026. We're really looking forward to see what we can do this year. Got a bunch of stuff going the right way. We've raised the money. We have the warehousing. The credit model looks great. We're very positive in terms of where things go from here. With that, thank you all for attending the conference and the conference call, and we'll speak to you in a month or two. Thank you.
Charles Bradley: We believe a good economy is good. We think we're, as I mentioned earlier, in a great position to raise money. We did a residual deal recently, which is cheaper by a bunch than the last couple we've done. Again, there's a lot of favorable headwinds or, excuse me, tailwinds as we move into 2026. We're really looking forward to see what we can do this year. Got a bunch of stuff going the right way. We've raised the money. We have the warehousing. The credit model looks great. We're very positive in terms of where things go from here. With that, thank you all for attending the conference and the conference call, and we'll speak to you in a month or two. Thank you.
Speaker #1: We did a residual deal recently. Which was cheaper by a bunch than the last couple we've done. So again, there's a lot of favorable headwinds or, excuse me, tailwinds as we move into '26.
Speaker #1: So we're really looking forward to see what we can do this year. Got a bunch of stuff going the right way. We've raised the money.
Speaker #1: We have the warehousing. The credit model looks great. We're very positive in terms of where things go from here. With that, thank you all for attending the conference and the conference call.
Speaker #1: And we'll speak to you in a month or two. Thank you.
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