Q4 2025 Comstock Inc Earnings Call and Business Update
Speaker #2: Good morning and thank you for joining Comstock Inc. . S full year 2025 results and business outlook . I'm Zach Spencer , director of External relations Today is Tuesday , March 24th , 2026 .
Speaker #2: We are streaming live and this session is being recorded . A recording will be posted shortly after we adjourn in the Investor Relations section of our website Today we filed our form 10-K for the year ended December 31st , 2025 , and issued a press release summarizing year end results .
Speaker #2: Both documents are available on our website As a reminder , Comstock Inc. is listed on NYSE American with the ticker load L o d e Joining me today are Corrado Gasperis Comstock Inc. , Chief Executive Officer and Judd Merrill Comstock Inc. , Chief Financial Officer .
Speaker #2: After their prepared remarks , we will take questions . We received more than 35 questions in advance of the call . If you have additional questions during the call , please use the Zoom Q&A window and we will address as many as time allows .
Zach Spencer: If you have additional questions during the call, please use the Zoom Q&A window, and we will address as many as time allows. Today's discussion will include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties detailed in our SEC filings. Full risk disclosures can be found in our filings on the Investor Relations page and on the SEC website. With that, it is my pleasure to introduce our Chief Financial Officer, Judd Merrill. Judd, you may begin.
Zach Spencer: If you have additional questions during the call, please use the Zoom Q&A window, and we will address as many as time allows. Today's discussion will include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties detailed in our SEC filings. Full risk disclosures can be found in our filings on the Investor Relations page and on the SEC website. With that, it is my pleasure to introduce our Chief Financial Officer, Judd Merrill. Judd, you may begin.
Speaker #2: Today's discussion will include forward looking statements . Actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties detailed in our SEC filings Full risk disclosures can be found in our filings on the Investor Relations page and on the SEC website .
Speaker #2: With that , it is my pleasure to introduce our Chief Financial Officer , Judd Merrill Judd . You may begin
Speaker #3: Thanks, Zach. And thanks to everyone for being on this call. I have a few remarks, and then we'll turn it over to Corrado.
Judd Merrill: Thanks, Zach, and thanks for everyone being on this call. I have a few remarks, and then we'll turn it over to Corrado. But I just want to look at the company dashboard here and just announce, you know, from a CFO's perspective, 2025 was really a transformational year for Comstock. You know, we really doubled our asset base. We strengthened and simplified our balance sheet. We eliminated legacy debt and other legacy obligations, and we fully positioned the company for its next phase of growth. Our balance sheet really is the strongest it has been, and it's positioned to be even stronger as we monetize non-core assets, and it's giving us kind of a speed advantage on our recycling competitors. Our capital structure is also very clean, and our shareholder base continues to strengthen.
Judd Merrill: Thanks, Zach, and thanks for everyone being on this call. I have a few remarks, and then we'll turn it over to Corrado. But I just want to look at the company dashboard here and just announce, you know, from a CFO's perspective, 2025 was really a transformational year for Comstock. You know, we really doubled our asset base. We strengthened and simplified our balance sheet. We eliminated legacy debt and other legacy obligations, and we fully positioned the company for its next phase of growth. Our balance sheet really is the strongest it has been, and it's positioned to be even stronger as we monetize non-core assets, and it's giving us kind of a speed advantage on our recycling competitors. Our capital structure is also very clean, and our shareholder base continues to strengthen.
Speaker #3: But I just want to look at the company dashboard here and just announce, you know, from a CFO's perspective, 2025 was really a transformational year for Comstock Inc.
Speaker #3: You know , we really doubled the size , doubled our asset base . We strengthened and simplified our balance sheet . We eliminated legacy debt and other legacy obligations .
Speaker #3: And we fully positioned the company for its next phase of growth. And our balance sheet really is the strongest it has been.
Speaker #3: And it's positioned to be even stronger as we monetize non-core assets. And it's giving us kind of a speed advantage on our recycling competitors.
Speaker #3: Our capital structure is also very clean , and our shareholder base continues to strengthen We continue our targeting and our outreach for what is still relatively a less known story , you know , less known metal story , less known financial execution and monetization priorities .
Judd Merrill: We continue our targeting and our outreach for what is still relatively a less-known story. You know, less-known metal story, less-known financial execution and monetization priorities. At the same time, we're beginning to see the early results of that investment, particularly in metals. Our commercialization efforts are moving us into a second, more sophisticated phase. Here are some specifics that I'll bring up. Cash and cash equivalents stood at approximately $56 million at 20 March 2026. Our common shares outstanding are 74 million shares at 20 March 2026. This is reflecting the recent offering, which ended up being really outstanding, if not transformational. You know, the change in our shareholder base was significant.
Judd Merrill: We continue our targeting and our outreach for what is still relatively a less-known story. You know, less-known metal story, less-known financial execution and monetization priorities. At the same time, we're beginning to see the early results of that investment, particularly in metals. Our commercialization efforts are moving us into a second, more sophisticated phase. Here are some specifics that I'll bring up. Cash and cash equivalents stood at approximately $56 million at 20 March 2026. Our common shares outstanding are 74 million shares at 20 March 2026. This is reflecting the recent offering, which ended up being really outstanding, if not transformational. You know, the change in our shareholder base was significant.
Speaker #3: And at the same time , we're beginning to see the early results of that investment , particularly in metals . Our commercialization efforts are moving us into a second , more sophisticated phase Here are some specifics that I'll bring up .
Speaker #3: Cash and cash equivalents are stood at 56 point or 50 , approximately 56 million at March 20th , 2026 , and our common shares outstanding are 74 million shares at March 20th , 2026 .
Speaker #3: And this is reflecting the recent offering , which ended up being really outstanding , if not transformational . You know , it was a change in our shareholder base with significant , you know , hood River Gracia , Mac capital .
Judd Merrill: You know, Hood River, Gratia, MAK Capital, those are just three that represent the top, some of the top investors that we have. Engagement with them and support has been amazing, including what we just recently announced enhancements to our board. Really, all this is critical part of our foundation for building a global multi-billion potential company and a testament to the capabilities that we have positioned. We did complete that second oversubscribed equity offering earlier this year, which brought in about $57.5 million in gross proceeds, which was approximately $53 million, net of offering expenses. Again, this was really driven by the demand from leading institutional investors. What it does is it removes the largest single risk to the spend needed to capture the solar market.
Judd Merrill: You know, Hood River, Gratia, MAK Capital, those are just three that represent the top, some of the top investors that we have. Engagement with them and support has been amazing, including what we just recently announced enhancements to our board. Really, all this is critical part of our foundation for building a global multi-billion potential company and a testament to the capabilities that we have positioned. We did complete that second oversubscribed equity offering earlier this year, which brought in about $57.5 million in gross proceeds, which was approximately $53 million, net of offering expenses. Again, this was really driven by the demand from leading institutional investors. What it does is it removes the largest single risk to the spend needed to capture the solar market.
Speaker #3: Those are just three that represent the top . Some of the top investors that we have and engagement with them . And support has been amazing , including what we just recently announced , enhancements to our board and really all this is critical part of our foundation for building a global multi-billion potential company .
Speaker #3: And a testament to the capabilities that we've positioned We did complete that second oversubscribed equity offering earlier this year , which brought in about 57.5 million in gross proceeds , which was approximately 53 million net of offerings .
Speaker #3: Expenses . And again , this was really driven by the demand from leading institutional investors . And what it does is it removes the largest single risk to the spend needed to capture the solar market .
Speaker #3: These funds allow us to deploy our first industry scale metals recycling facility without distraction Secure and permit and fund facility . Number two , which positions us to corner the entire southwest market right here from Nevada We announced and build additional permitted storage sites like California , Ohio , Texas , and others Accelerate our refining solution and capability , including strategic partners and really position us for the best , fastest monetization of self and our other non-core assets .
Judd Merrill: These funds allow us to deploy our first industry scale metals recycling facility without distraction, secure and permit and fund facility number two, which positions us to corner the entire Southwest market right here from Nevada. We announce and build additional permitted storage sites like California, Ohio, Texas, and others. Accelerate our refining solution and capability, including strategic partners, and really position us for the best, fastest monetization of SSOS and our other non-core assets. You know, when we look back when we started 2025, it was with huge developed potential, but really no capital resources and many, many counterparty obligations that we required, you know, to enable us to develop our platforms. We have effectively eliminated those obligations from our balance sheet. We did have revenues too. Comstock Metals had revenues for 2025.
Judd Merrill: These funds allow us to deploy our first industry scale metals recycling facility without distraction, secure and permit and fund facility number two, which positions us to corner the entire Southwest market right here from Nevada. We announce and build additional permitted storage sites like California, Ohio, Texas, and others. Accelerate our refining solution and capability, including strategic partners, and really position us for the best, fastest monetization of SSOS and our other non-core assets. You know, when we look back when we started 2025, it was with huge developed potential, but really no capital resources and many, many counterparty obligations that we required, you know, to enable us to develop our platforms. We have effectively eliminated those obligations from our balance sheet. We did have revenues too. Comstock Metals had revenues for 2025.
Speaker #3: You know , when we look back and we started 2025 , it was with huge developed potential . But really no capital resources and many , many counterparty obligations that we required , you know , to , to able to develop our platforms .
Speaker #3: We have effectively eliminated those obligations from our balance sheet . We did have revenues to Comstock Inc. metals , had revenues for 2025 , was approximately 1.4 million compared to 2024 , which was about 4.4 million .
Judd Merrill: It was approximately $1.4 million compared to 2024, which was about $4.4 million. In addition to the reported revenue, we did generate additional billings, approximately $2.2 million in 2025. We call it deferred revenue, and that's associated with our early operations. About $3.5 million for all of 2025, just as we guided to. It's also important to note that our 2025 results included several non-recurring items associated with the transformation of our balance sheet. These costs include, you know, debt conversion and extinguishment, as well as non-cash impacts from changes in the fair value of derivative instruments, which is all now behind us. You know, last year was a deliberate effort to simplify our capital structure and eliminate legacy obligations.
Judd Merrill: It was approximately $1.4 million compared to 2024, which was about $4.4 million. In addition to the reported revenue, we did generate additional billings, approximately $2.2 million in 2025. We call it deferred revenue, and that's associated with our early operations. About $3.5 million for all of 2025, just as we guided to. It's also important to note that our 2025 results included several non-recurring items associated with the transformation of our balance sheet. These costs include, you know, debt conversion and extinguishment, as well as non-cash impacts from changes in the fair value of derivative instruments, which is all now behind us. You know, last year was a deliberate effort to simplify our capital structure and eliminate legacy obligations.
Speaker #3: In addition to reported revenue , we did generate additional billings , approximately 2.2 million in 2025 . We call it deferred revenue , and that's associated with our early operations .
Speaker #3: So, about $3.5 million for all of 2025, just as we guided to. It's also important to note that our 2025 results included several non-recurring items associated with the transformation of our balance sheet.
Speaker #3: These costs in include , you know , debt conversion and extinguishments As well as non-cash impacts from changes in the fair value of derivative instruments , which is all now behind us .
Speaker #3: You know , so last year was was a deliberate effort to simplify our capital structure and eliminate obligations . And these actions , we believe , significantly strengthen the company going forward .
Judd Merrill: These actions, we believe, significantly strengthen the company going forward. From a liquidity standpoint, you know, we are in a strong position. We believe our current cash combined with expected revenues from metal recycling later this year and priority asset sales and monetization, all that keeps us strong and in a leading position, you know, as we execute on the metals plan. Lastly, we are lining up and diligently seeing and positioning more traditional non-dilutive sources, which includes grants and industrial bonds, which we will qualify for and will have access to once our first facility is up and running this year. So those are my remarks. I'll turn it over now to Corrado to dive deeper into our metals progress and monetization.
Judd Merrill: These actions, we believe, significantly strengthen the company going forward. From a liquidity standpoint, you know, we are in a strong position. We believe our current cash combined with expected revenues from metal recycling later this year and priority asset sales and monetization, all that keeps us strong and in a leading position, you know, as we execute on the metals plan. Lastly, we are lining up and diligently seeing and positioning more traditional non-dilutive sources, which includes grants and industrial bonds, which we will qualify for and will have access to once our first facility is up and running this year. So those are my remarks. I'll turn it over now to Corrado to dive deeper into our metals progress and monetization.
Speaker #3: And from a liquidity standpoint , you know , we are in a strong position . We believe our current cash , combined with expected revenues from from metals recycling later this year and priority asset sales and monetization , all that keeps us strong and in a leading position .
Speaker #3: You know, as we execute on the metals plan. And lastly, we are lining up and diligently, diligent and positioning more traditional non-dilutive sources, which includes grants and industrial bonds, which we will qualify for and will have access to once our first facility is up and running this year. So those are my remarks, and I'll turn it over now to Corrado to dive deeper into our metals progress and monetization.
Speaker #4: Thanks , John . Thanks , everyone , for being here . We probably have a record attendance for this call , so I'm really I'm excited about the update .
Corrado De Gasperis: Thanks, Judd. Thanks, everyone for being here. We probably have a record attendance, you know, for this call, so I'm really excited about the update. Let me start with the announcement that we made just after the market closed today, which for us is incredibly exciting and encouraging. As Judd mentioned, at the end of January, we had a robustly oversubscribed offering. We had tremendous quality of institutional investors. He named a few, Hood River, MAK Capital, Gratia. I mean, the list continues on, you know, down to a solid 25, you know, 30 institutions that joined.
Corrado De Gasperis: Thanks, Judd. Thanks, everyone for being here. We probably have a record attendance, you know, for this call, so I'm really excited about the update. Let me start with the announcement that we made just after the market closed today, which for us is incredibly exciting and encouraging. As Judd mentioned, at the end of January, we had a robustly oversubscribed offering. We had tremendous quality of institutional investors. He named a few, Hood River, MAK Capital, Gratia. I mean, the list continues on, you know, down to a solid 25, you know, 30 institutions that joined.
Speaker #4: Let me start with the announcement that we made just after the market closed today, which for us is incredibly exciting and encouraging.
Speaker #4: We , as Jad mentioned at the end of January , we had a robust , oversubscribed offering . We had tremendous quality of institutional investors .
Speaker #4: He named a few hood River Mac Capital , Gracia . I mean , the list continues on . You know , down to , you know , solid 25 , you know , 30 institutions that joined what was even more encouraging was , you know , Steve Pei at gratia , you know , Craig and Mike Kaufmann , the interest that was taken in the company was very , very high , including site visits , including reviews and tours , you know , of all of our assets and quite frankly , a extremely constructive engagement about support and help for how do we position this company to be a truly global , truly dominant , you know , metal recycling company ?
Corrado De Gasperis: What was even more encouraging was, you know, Steven Pei at Gratia, you know, Craig and Michael Kaufman, the interest that was taken in the company was very, very high, including site visits, including reviews, and tours, you know, of all of our assets. Quite frankly, an extremely constructive engagement about, you know, support and help for how do we position this company to be a truly global, truly dominant, you know, metal recycling company. I think that reflects, you know, a view that our technology is differentiated. I think it reflects a view that we have a really, really early adopter head start. I think it reflects a view that we did make good progress with this balance sheet.
Corrado De Gasperis: What was even more encouraging was, you know, Steven Pei at Gratia, you know, Craig and Michael Kaufman, the interest that was taken in the company was very, very high, including site visits, including reviews, and tours, you know, of all of our assets. Quite frankly, an extremely constructive engagement about, you know, support and help for how do we position this company to be a truly global, truly dominant, you know, metal recycling company. I think that reflects, you know, a view that our technology is differentiated. I think it reflects a view that we have a really, really early adopter head start. I think it reflects a view that we did make good progress with this balance sheet.
Speaker #4: I think that reflects , you know , a view that our technology is differentiated . I think it reflects a view that we have a really , really early adopter had start .
Speaker #4: I think it reflects a view that we did make good progress with this balance sheet . You know , if you go back to the the shareholder letter from last January , it was a tough letter .
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, if you go back to the shareholder letter from last January, it was a tough letter, but the message was, you know, we need to clean things up. We need to get recapitalized, and we need to fund these growth businesses. If people go back and look at that letter, we could say, "Wow, we made huge progress." Now we have that posture, so the hard work is now the execution. How do you take a platform that's regional? Sure, half of the end-of-life market is in the Southwest region, you know, of the United States. Absolutely, Nevada and these Nevada permits and platform positions us to capture it. It's much bigger than that. You know, the United States has over, you know, 1 billion and 3 panels deployed.
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, if you go back to the shareholder letter from last January, it was a tough letter, but the message was, you know, we need to clean things up. We need to get recapitalized, and we need to fund these growth businesses. If people go back and look at that letter, we could say, "Wow, we made huge progress." Now we have that posture, so the hard work is now the execution. How do you take a platform that's regional? Sure, half of the end-of-life market is in the Southwest region, you know, of the United States. Absolutely, Nevada and these Nevada permits and platform positions us to capture it. It's much bigger than that. You know, the United States has over, you know, 1 billion and 3 panels deployed.
Speaker #4: But the message was, you know, we need to clean things up. We need to get recapitalized, and we need to fund these growth businesses.
Speaker #4: So if people go back and look at that letter , we could say , wow , we made huge progress . But now we have that So the hard work is now the execution .
Speaker #4: And how do you how do you take a platform that's regional ? Sure . Half of the end of life market is in the southwest region .
Speaker #4: Of the United States, absolutely. Nevada and these Nevada permits and platform position us to capture it. But it's much bigger than that.
Speaker #4: You know , the United States has over you know , you know , a billion , three panels deployed there coming in end of life rapidly .
Corrado De Gasperis: They're coming end of life rapidly, and that's only one-eighth of the world. You know, the world has just as big of a dilemma, you know, 8x relative to the US. The conversation was around, you know, expanding governance, you know, expanding international business competency, accessing capital markets competency. We're thrilled to announce, you know, the addition of 3 new independent directors. You know, Donald Colvin, who has extensive and frankly complex, you know, financial management background, but a very, very strong solar industry experience being the chair and a board member of a public solar manufacturer of global footprint. You know, and just the global public company governance posture, you know, from chairing boards to chairing audit committees.
Corrado De Gasperis: They're coming end of life rapidly, and that's only one-eighth of the world. You know, the world has just as big of a dilemma, you know, 8x relative to the US. The conversation was around, you know, expanding governance, you know, expanding international business competency, accessing capital markets competency. We're thrilled to announce, you know, the addition of 3 new independent directors. You know, Donald Colvin, who has extensive and frankly complex, you know, financial management background, but a very, very strong solar industry experience being the chair and a board member of a public solar manufacturer of global footprint. You know, and just the global public company governance posture, you know, from chairing boards to chairing audit committees.
Speaker #4: And that's only one eighth of the world . You know , the world has just as big of a dilemma . You know , eight X relative to the US .
Speaker #4: So , so the conversation was around , you know , expanding governance , you know , expanding , you know , you know , international business competency , accessing capital markets , competency .
Speaker #4: So , so we're thrilled to announce , you know , the addition of three new independent directors , you know , Donald Colvin , who has extensive and frankly , complex , you know , financial management background , but a very , very strong solar industry experience being the chair and a board member of a public solar manufacturer of global , of global footprint , you know , and just the global public company governance posture , you know , from , from , from chairing boards to chairing audit committees , you know , and then Steve Pei , as I mentioned , you know , with , with extensive I mean , quite remarkable capital markets background , entrepreneurial , what was , what was intriguing was , you know , the notion of investing in smaller , you know , early stage companies and watching them become a national or international successes and watching those values , you know , increase dramatically .
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, Steve Pei, as I mentioned, you know, with extensive, I mean, quite remarkable capital markets background, entrepreneurial. What was intriguing was, you know, the notion of investing in smaller, you know, early-stage companies and watching them become national or international successes and watching those values, you know, increase dramatically. Bob Spence, who has an exceptional background in refining, in recycling and electrification recycling to boot, including, you know, international operations, you know, 30-plus international sites in public and international governance experience, you know, both from audit, from acquisition, from oversight. You know, we really could have spent a couple of years, you know, working on the searching and recruiting and aligning and onboarding of our board. We really jump-started that.
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, Steve Pei, as I mentioned, you know, with extensive, I mean, quite remarkable capital markets background, entrepreneurial. What was intriguing was, you know, the notion of investing in smaller, you know, early-stage companies and watching them become national or international successes and watching those values, you know, increase dramatically. Bob Spence, who has an exceptional background in refining, in recycling and electrification recycling to boot, including, you know, international operations, you know, 30-plus international sites in public and international governance experience, you know, both from audit, from acquisition, from oversight. You know, we really could have spent a couple of years, you know, working on the searching and recruiting and aligning and onboarding of our board. We really jump-started that.
Speaker #4: And then Bob Spence , who has an exceptional background in refining and in recycling and electrification , recycling to boot , including , you know , international operations , you know , 30 plus international sites in public and international governance experience , you know , both from audit , from , from acquisition , you know , from , from oversight .
Speaker #4: You know , we really , we really could have spent a couple of years , you know , working on the , the searching and recruiting and aligning and onboarding of our board .
Speaker #4: We really jumpstarted that . So I think , you know , from a perspective of , of really , really strong platform that can , can really handle all of the things that are coming , you know , sweeping across , you know , the US , we've got a really good plan for that .
Corrado De Gasperis: I think, you know, from a perspective of really strong platform that can really handle all of the things that are coming, you know, sweeping across, you know, the US, we've got a really good plan for that. This won't stop there. You know, this market is just extraordinary. We're welcoming, you know, of our expanded board. I guess the final takeaway is, you know, when two of your top four investors, you know, are represented on your board, that screams a lot. You know, we couldn't be more thankful to Steve Pei at Gratia Capital, Michael Kaufman at MAK, Craig, and the rest of the team that just, you know, worked so diligently to make all this happen for us. We thank you very, very much.
Corrado De Gasperis: I think, you know, from a perspective of really strong platform that can really handle all of the things that are coming, you know, sweeping across, you know, the US, we've got a really good plan for that. This won't stop there. You know, this market is just extraordinary. We're welcoming, you know, of our expanded board. I guess the final takeaway is, you know, when two of your top four investors, you know, are represented on your board, that screams a lot. You know, we couldn't be more thankful to Steve Pei at Gratia Capital, Michael Kaufman at MAK, Craig, and the rest of the team that just, you know, worked so diligently to make all this happen for us. We thank you very, very much.
Speaker #4: But this won't stop there . You know , this market is extraordinary . So we're , we're , we're welcoming , you know , of our expanded board .
Speaker #4: And I guess the final takeaway is , you know , when two of your top four investors , you know , are represented on your board , that screams a lot .
Speaker #4: You know , we couldn't be more thankful to Steve for Michael Kaufman at m a k . Craig and the rest of the team that just , you know , worked so , so diligently to make all this happen for us .
Speaker #4: We thank you very , very much . And for 2026 , that team , that governance structure , that capital base is aligned , right ?
Corrado De Gasperis: For 2026, that team, that governance structure, that capital base is aligned, right? We're aligned on these objectives, which is very, very much first and foremost to monetize our non-core legacy mining assets. We have gone from a few years ago, you know, talking to, you know, less than credible people to talking to, you know, marginally capable people to now being engaged with very, very serious, you know, mining counterparties that absolutely, you know, like what we have here, what we've maintained here, which is, you know, a great mining district, great resources. If there's any question about this decision, let me put everybody's mind at rest. You know, every dollar, you know, that we take from the mining assets and put into the recycling assets multiplies exponentially. Let's be clear.
Corrado De Gasperis: For 2026, that team, that governance structure, that capital base is aligned, right? We're aligned on these objectives, which is very, very much first and foremost to monetize our non-core legacy mining assets. We have gone from a few years ago, you know, talking to, you know, less than credible people to talking to, you know, marginally capable people to now being engaged with very, very serious, you know, mining counterparties that absolutely, you know, like what we have here, what we've maintained here, which is, you know, a great mining district, great resources. If there's any question about this decision, let me put everybody's mind at rest. You know, every dollar, you know, that we take from the mining assets and put into the recycling assets multiplies exponentially. Let's be clear.
Speaker #4: We're aligned on these objectives , which is very , very much first and foremost to non-core legacy mining assets . We have , we have , we've gone from a few years ago , you know , talking to , you know , less than credible people to talking to , you know , marginally capable people to now being engaged with very , very serious , you know , mining , mining counterparties that absolutely , you know , like what we have here , what we've maintained here , which is , you know , a great mining district , great resources , if there's any question about this decision , let me put everybody's mind at rest .
Speaker #4: You know, every dollar, you know, that we take from the mining assets and put into the recycling assets multiplies exponentially.
Speaker #4: And let's be clear , if we were going to mine these assets , it would take 30 , 40 , maybe $50 million of capital to put a mine into production .
Corrado De Gasperis: If we were gonna mine these assets, it would take $30, $40, maybe $50 million of capital to put a mine into production. That's with an existing resource and a permitted platform. There would still be a lot to do. In that context, it's money that doesn't go to solar recycling. That's a non-starter for us. It never was a starter for us, frankly. Every dollar that we can then pull out of that non-productive asset and put into the recycling business, I think a few of you heard me say, our mining assets, which we believe have good value and are very attractive, you know, have about 2.5 million ounces of silver in situ just in the Dayton resource alone.
Corrado De Gasperis: If we were gonna mine these assets, it would take $30, $40, maybe $50 million of capital to put a mine into production. That's with an existing resource and a permitted platform. There would still be a lot to do. In that context, it's money that doesn't go to solar recycling. That's a non-starter for us. It never was a starter for us, frankly. Every dollar that we can then pull out of that non-productive asset and put into the recycling business, I think a few of you heard me say, our mining assets, which we believe have good value and are very attractive, you know, have about 2.5 million ounces of silver in situ just in the Dayton resource alone.
Speaker #4: That's with that's with an existing resource and a permitted platform . There would still be a lot to do . So in that context , it's money that doesn't go to solar recycling .
Speaker #4: That's a non-starter for us . It never was a starter for us , frankly . But every dollar that we can then pull out of that non-productive asset and put into recycling business , I think a few of you heard me say our our mining assets , which we believe have good value and are very attractive .
Speaker #4: You know , have about 2.5 million ounces of silver in situ just in the Dayton resource alone . And yeah , that would take 6 or 7 years to mine , you know , once the mine got up and running , two of our facilities in Nevada , which we now know where they're going to be and they're up in getting up and running would produce that much silver annually .
Corrado De Gasperis: That would take 6 or 7 years to mine, you know, once the mine got up and running. Two of our facilities in Nevada, which we now know where they're going to be, and they're up and getting up and running, would produce that much silver annually. That's just 2, not 7. You can see the difference in throughput in cash generation from what you could call 2 different silver mines. We also wanna monetize our non-core legacy real estate. I'm gonna give you more transparency on that today simply because we finally came to sufficient progress both, you know, with Sierra Springs's board and company and with third parties that are very, very interested in these assets.
Corrado De Gasperis: That would take 6 or 7 years to mine, you know, once the mine got up and running. Two of our facilities in Nevada, which we now know where they're going to be, and they're up and getting up and running, would produce that much silver annually. That's just 2, not 7. You can see the difference in throughput in cash generation from what you could call 2 different silver mines. We also wanna monetize our non-core legacy real estate. I'm gonna give you more transparency on that today simply because we finally came to sufficient progress both, you know, with Sierra Springs's board and company and with third parties that are very, very interested in these assets.
Speaker #4: That's just two, not seven. So you can see the difference in throughput and cash generation from what you could call two different silver mines.
Speaker #4: We also want to monetize our non-core legacy real estate . I'm going to give you more transparency on that today . Simply because we finally came to a sufficient progress both , you know , with Sierra Springs's board and company and with third parties that are very , very interested in these assets .
Speaker #4: The value is higher. The ownership is higher. So, the amount that we're going to monetize here, hopefully, will be pleasantly higher than anyone might have been expecting.
Corrado De Gasperis: The value is higher, the ownership is higher, so the amount that we're gonna monetize here, hopefully will be pleasantly higher than anyone might have been expecting. We're gonna do both of those things. Green Li-ion, we also wanna monetize. It's less within our control. Company's making extraordinary progress, truly exceeded my expectations in terms of their journey to profitability. They have operating facility in Oklahoma. We own 13% of the company. They've announced that they're going to move into a public listing in Australia sometime later this year. Once Green Li-ion is successful in its endeavor to becoming a public company, then we'll have a much easier and clearer, you know, exit strategy for that investment. We've worked very hard on all these monetization items.
Corrado De Gasperis: The value is higher, the ownership is higher, so the amount that we're gonna monetize here, hopefully will be pleasantly higher than anyone might have been expecting. We're gonna do both of those things. Green Li-ion, we also wanna monetize. It's less within our control. Company's making extraordinary progress, truly exceeded my expectations in terms of their journey to profitability. They have operating facility in Oklahoma. We own 13% of the company. They've announced that they're going to move into a public listing in Australia sometime later this year. Once Green Li-ion is successful in its endeavor to becoming a public company, then we'll have a much easier and clearer, you know, exit strategy for that investment. We've worked very hard on all these monetization items.
Speaker #4: So we're going to do both of those things. Green Lion. We also want to monetize. It's less within our control.
Speaker #4: The company is making extraordinary progress. Truly exceeded my expectations in terms of their journey to profitability. They have an operating facility in Oklahoma.
Speaker #4: We own 13% of the company, and they've announced that they're going to move into the public listing in Australia sometime later this year.
Speaker #4: So once , once Green Line is successful in its in its endeavor to becoming a public company , then we'll have a much easier and clearer exit strategy for that investment .
Speaker #4: We've worked very , very hard on all these monetization items . This is the this is the crux of the corporate objectives . You know , we've had to put more capital into Sierra Springs , but at great gain , that wasn't clear before because the deals were structured and they weren't announced , but they are now structured .
Corrado De Gasperis: This is the crux of the corporate objectives. You know, we've had to put more capital into Sierra Springs, but at great gain. That wasn't clear before because the deals weren't structured and they weren't announced, but they are now structured. We've already taken effectively what was just under 17% of Sierra Springs to well over 36, 37%. That number could end up easily at well over 50% for something that we think has hundreds of millions of dollars of value. We don't think that based on conjecture. There is monster engagement in Northern Nevada right now, because if you're able to secure sufficient power to the land, it's in immediate demand. If you're not able to secure sufficient power to the land, there's no interest, okay?
Corrado De Gasperis: This is the crux of the corporate objectives. You know, we've had to put more capital into Sierra Springs, but at great gain. That wasn't clear before because the deals weren't structured and they weren't announced, but they are now structured. We've already taken effectively what was just under 17% of Sierra Springs to well over 36, 37%. That number could end up easily at well over 50% for something that we think has hundreds of millions of dollars of value. We don't think that based on conjecture. There is monster engagement in Northern Nevada right now, because if you're able to secure sufficient power to the land, it's in immediate demand. If you're not able to secure sufficient power to the land, there's no interest, okay?
Speaker #4: And we've already taken effectively what was just under 17% of Sierra Springs to well over 36 , 37% . That number could end up easily at well over 50% for something that we think has hundreds of millions of dollars of value , we don't think that based on conjecture , there is monster engagement in northern Nevada right now , because if you're able to secure sufficient power to the land , it's it's an immediate demand .
Speaker #4: If you're not able to secure sufficient power to the land , there's no interest . Okay , so we're , we're , we're on the verge of something very meaningful here .
Corrado De Gasperis: We're on the verge of something very meaningful here. I think 2026, credibly now, we'll see monetization of mining, monetization of non-core real estate, and frankly, timing couldn't be better, you know. We're really all about supporting the exponential growth of the metals business, not just for national dominance, really for setting the global standard, you know, in this recycling business. We crushed it in 2025. When I say we, I mean the metals team. Fortunato, Paul, Kayla. I mean, they got the permits, first of its kind. Leo was absolutely instrumental in supporting us, one of our board members, in navigating through that regulatory regime. We didn't only get first of its kind permits, we were held to what we originally thought was a ridiculously high standard.
Corrado De Gasperis: We're on the verge of something very meaningful here. I think 2026, credibly now, we'll see monetization of mining, monetization of non-core real estate, and frankly, timing couldn't be better, you know. We're really all about supporting the exponential growth of the metals business, not just for national dominance, really for setting the global standard, you know, in this recycling business. We crushed it in 2025. When I say we, I mean the metals team. Fortunato, Paul, Kayla. I mean, they got the permits, first of its kind. Leo was absolutely instrumental in supporting us, one of our board members, in navigating through that regulatory regime. We didn't only get first of its kind permits, we were held to what we originally thought was a ridiculously high standard.
Speaker #4: I think 2026 credibly now we'll see monetization of mining , monetization of , of , of non-core , real estate and frankly , timing couldn't be better .
Speaker #4: You know , so we're really all about supporting the exponential growth of the metals business , not just for national dominance , really for setting the global standard , you know , in this recycling business , we crushed it in 25 .
Speaker #4: And when I say we , I mean the metals team . Fortunato , Paul , Kayla . I mean , they got the permits first of its kind .
Speaker #4: Leo was absolutely instrumental in supporting us . One of our board members in navigating through that regulatory regime , we didn't only get first of its kind permits , we were held to what we originally thought was a ridiculously high standard .
Speaker #4: But now, with hindsight, it looks like it will be very difficult for any existing competitor that we know of to even set foot in Nevada.
Corrado De Gasperis: Now with hindsight, it looks like it will be very difficult for any existing competitor that we know of to even set foot in Nevada and even get permits, you know, within 2 years. To the extent Nevada sits on 50% of the end-of-life market, certainly between now and 2030, now and 2035, wow, we're literally on the beachhead of a battle that doesn't see any competitors anywhere near what we've positioned here. We don't wanna stop in the Southwest region because that's only half the market. We wanna get to the rest of the US, and that will come, as Judd said, you know, with less resistance and much more rapidly. We also have designed the engineered process for recovering the metals from our tailings.
Corrado De Gasperis: Now with hindsight, it looks like it will be very difficult for any existing competitor that we know of to even set foot in Nevada and even get permits, you know, within 2 years. To the extent Nevada sits on 50% of the end-of-life market, certainly between now and 2030, now and 2035, wow, we're literally on the beachhead of a battle that doesn't see any competitors anywhere near what we've positioned here. We don't wanna stop in the Southwest region because that's only half the market. We wanna get to the rest of the US, and that will come, as Judd said, you know, with less resistance and much more rapidly. We also have designed the engineered process for recovering the metals from our tailings.
Speaker #4: And even get permits , you know , within two years . So to the extent Nevada sits on 50% of the end of life market , certainly between now and 2030 now and 20 , 35 .
Speaker #4: Wow . We're , we're literally on the beachhead of , of a battle that doesn't see any competitors anywhere near what we've positioned here .
Speaker #4: We don't want to stop in the southwest region because that's only half the market . We want to get to the rest of the US , and that will come , as judge said , you know , with less resistance and much more rapidly .
Speaker #4: We also have designed the the the engineered process for recovering the metals from our tailings . I'll give you a little bit more color on But we did that with with , with leveraging a handful of partners between universities and companies that have existing assets and existing infrastructure that allows us to take fortunato's engineered design and very efficiently , you know , test up to a demo , which we hope to have here by the end of this year .
Corrado De Gasperis: I'll give you a little bit more color on that. We did that with leveraging a handful of partners between universities and companies that have existing assets and existing infrastructure that allows us to take Fortunato's engineered design and very efficiently, you know, test up to a demo, which we hope to have here by the end of this year. All that, you know, all that work in 2025 really positioned us, you know, to move fast, right? What do we wanna do? We wanna get this facility up and running. Substantially, all the equipment has arrived. The ovens are arriving now, and the ovens literally represent. I just looked at the final truck schedules, represents 20 full, you know, eighteen-wheelers.
Corrado De Gasperis: I'll give you a little bit more color on that. We did that with leveraging a handful of partners between universities and companies that have existing assets and existing infrastructure that allows us to take Fortunato's engineered design and very efficiently, you know, test up to a demo, which we hope to have here by the end of this year. All that, you know, all that work in 2025 really positioned us, you know, to move fast, right? What do we wanna do? We wanna get this facility up and running. Substantially, all the equipment has arrived. The ovens are arriving now, and the ovens literally represent. I just looked at the final truck schedules, represents 20 full, you know, eighteen-wheelers.
Speaker #4: So all that , you know , all that work in 2025 really positioned us , you know , to move fast , right ?
Speaker #4: So what do we want to do? We want to get this facility up and running. Substantially all the equipment has arrived. The ovens are arriving now.
Speaker #4: And the ovens literally represent . I just looked at the final truck schedules , represents 20 full , you know , 18 wheelers .
Speaker #4: So you start to get a sense of the magnitude . You know , of of this process and these systems , some of you have come and visited , you know , and I'll show some pictures of some of the equipment as it's getting assembled here , but it's all coming in , you know , we're on schedule .
Corrado De Gasperis: So you start to get a sense of the magnitude, you know, of this process and the system. Some of you have come and visited, you know, and I'll show some pictures of some of the equipment as it's getting assembled here. It's all coming in. You know, we're on schedule. It wouldn't be right to say that, you know, three or four weeks of slippage hasn't occurred, but that was already buffered in our schedule. Commissioning in Q1, operating in Q2 holds. We're very happy about that, bringing the thing online.
Corrado De Gasperis: So you start to get a sense of the magnitude, you know, of this process and the system. Some of you have come and visited, you know, and I'll show some pictures of some of the equipment as it's getting assembled here. It's all coming in. You know, we're on schedule. It wouldn't be right to say that, you know, three or four weeks of slippage hasn't occurred, but that was already buffered in our schedule. Commissioning in Q1, operating in Q2 holds. We're very happy about that, bringing the thing online.
Speaker #4: It wouldn't , it wouldn't be right to say that , you know , 3 or 4 weeks of slippage hasn't occurred . But that was already buffered in our schedule .
Speaker #4: So commissioning in Q1 , operating in Q2 holds . We're very happy about that . Bringing the thing online and another thing that's happening is that we're starting to see it's almost like if you're in the fourth quarter of a football game , you're starting to see some of our competition .
Corrado De Gasperis: Yet another thing that's happening is that we're starting to see it's almost like if you're in the Q4 of a football game, you're starting to see some of our competition, you know, you know, take a knee or move aside. Really, that's an analogy to say that our customers, you know, the true utility scale companies, you know, that are now very seriously engaged in a very big end-of-life problem, they're almost only, you know. They're certainly not talking to the two or three people that we previously talked about as showing up most often. There's a really good trend there. Something even more strategic is happening. Some of these institutions are either very, very large or part of even larger organizations, and they've engaged us for more strategic things.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yet another thing that's happening is that we're starting to see it's almost like if you're in the Q4 of a football game, you're starting to see some of our competition, you know, you know, take a knee or move aside. Really, that's an analogy to say that our customers, you know, the true utility scale companies, you know, that are now very seriously engaged in a very big end-of-life problem, they're almost only, you know. They're certainly not talking to the two or three people that we previously talked about as showing up most often. There's a really good trend there. Something even more strategic is happening. Some of these institutions are either very, very large or part of even larger organizations, and they've engaged us for more strategic things.
Speaker #4: You know , you know , take a knee or move aside . Really , that's an analogy to say that our our customers , you know , the true utility scale companies , you know , that are now very seriously engaged in a very big end of life problem there .
Speaker #4: They're almost only, you know, they're certainly not talking to the two or three people that we, we previously talked about as showing up.
Speaker #4: Most often . So there's a really good trend there . Something even more strategic is happening . Some of these institutions are either very , very large or part of even larger organizations .
Speaker #4: And they've engaged us for more strategic things . You've heard me talk about Co-locating , you know , sites or or , or venturing into third or fourth site .
Corrado De Gasperis: You've heard me talk about co-locating, you know, on one of the sites or venturing into a third or fourth site. This all ties to getting market share, right? We want to dominate the market share. We're very happy with how those underlying, you know, conversations are going. We've identified the second site. We are pinning it down, final stages. The permits actually have already been submitted. You know, we're excited about it. It will be in Clark County. It will be just outside of Las Vegas, you know, exactly where we wanted to position the second site, you know, for this Southwest region. California's permitted up and running. Ohio's coming up in line. Those right now are primarily either storage and/or transition activities, prep activities, logistics activities. There's no processing.
Corrado De Gasperis: You've heard me talk about co-locating, you know, on one of the sites or venturing into a third or fourth site. This all ties to getting market share, right? We want to dominate the market share. We're very happy with how those underlying, you know, conversations are going. We've identified the second site. We are pinning it down, final stages. The permits actually have already been submitted. You know, we're excited about it. It will be in Clark County. It will be just outside of Las Vegas, you know, exactly where we wanted to position the second site, you know, for this Southwest region. California's permitted up and running. Ohio's coming up in line. Those right now are primarily either storage and/or transition activities, prep activities, logistics activities. There's no processing.
Speaker #4: This all ties to getting share , right . So we want we want to dominate the market share . We're very happy with how those underlying , you know , conversations are going .
Speaker #4: And we've identified the second site . We've , we're pinning it down final stages . The , the permits actually have already been submitted , you know , so we're excited about it .
Speaker #4: It will be in Clark County . It will be just outside of Las Vegas . You know exactly where we wanted to position the second site .
Speaker #4: You know , for this southwest region . And California's permitted up and running . Ohio is coming up in line . Those right now are primarily either storage and or transition activities .
Speaker #4: Prep activities , logistics activities . There's no processing , there's no processing that we're planning at all for California . But certainly Ohio would evolve into that .
Corrado De Gasperis: There's no processing that we're planning at all for California, but certainly Ohio would evolve into that. We're looking as well at a specific site in Texas. That side of things are moving very quickly, and we're continuing, you know, all of those efforts. 2026 is gonna be, you know, as foundational as 2025 was. 2026 is gonna show the light. You know, 2026 is gonna show the large industrial system running. It's gonna show it turning profitable. It's gonna show volumes increasing. You're gonna see revenue go from, you know, $100,000 a month to $200,000 a month to $1 million a month to $2 million a month. You know, that's our profile for 2026. We don't see any reason why that isn't going to come together just like that.
Corrado De Gasperis: There's no processing that we're planning at all for California, but certainly Ohio would evolve into that. We're looking as well at a specific site in Texas. That side of things are moving very quickly, and we're continuing, you know, all of those efforts. 2026 is gonna be, you know, as foundational as 2025 was. 2026 is gonna show the light. You know, 2026 is gonna show the large industrial system running. It's gonna show it turning profitable. It's gonna show volumes increasing. You're gonna see revenue go from, you know, $100,000 a month to $200,000 a month to $1 million a month to $2 million a month. You know, that's our profile for 2026. We don't see any reason why that isn't going to come together just like that.
Speaker #4: And we're looking as well at a specific site in Texas. So that side of things is moving very, very quickly.
Speaker #4: And we're continuing , you know , all of those efforts . 26 is going to be , you know , as , as foundational as 25 was .
Speaker #4: ’26 is going to show the light, you know, ’26 is going to show us the large industrial system running. It's going to show it turning profitable.
Speaker #4: It's going to show volumes increasing , and you're going to see revenue go from , you know , a 100,000 a month to 200,000 a month to a million a month to 2 million a month .
Speaker #4: That's our profile for 2026 . And we don't see any reason why that isn't going to come together just like that . So we don't need to talk that much about , you know , silver demand , everyone of you that I've talked to seems to understand the supply and demand equation for silver and is very bullish on it .
Corrado De Gasperis: We don't need to talk that much about, you know, silver demand. Every one of you that I've talked to seems to understand the supply and demand equation for silver and is very bullish on it. You know, even with some pullback, we're sitting at $70 silver, which is above anything that we've modeled, you know, in our process. As I mentioned previously, even at $60 silver, you know, our offtake revenue isn't $125 a ton, it's $375 a ton. You know? We already have an enhanced profile, you know, given the current realities. You see the inside of 600 Lake in this picture. That was seven months ago. You know, now when you look at the inside of 600 Lake, you know, it's assembling equipment.
Corrado De Gasperis: We don't need to talk that much about, you know, silver demand. Every one of you that I've talked to seems to understand the supply and demand equation for silver and is very bullish on it. You know, even with some pullback, we're sitting at $70 silver, which is above anything that we've modeled, you know, in our process. As I mentioned previously, even at $60 silver, you know, our offtake revenue isn't $125 a ton, it's $375 a ton. You know? We already have an enhanced profile, you know, given the current realities. You see the inside of 600 Lake in this picture. That was seven months ago. You know, now when you look at the inside of 600 Lake, you know, it's assembling equipment.
Speaker #4: You know , even with some some pullback , we're sitting at $70 silver , which is above any , anything that we've modeled , you know , in our process , as I mentioned previously , even at $60 silver , you know , our offtake revenue isn't $125 a ton .
Speaker #4: It's $375 a ton , you know , so we already have an enhanced profile , you know , given given the realities , you see the inside of 600 lake in this picture that was seven months You know , now , now , when you look at the inside of 600 lake , you know , it's , it's , it's assembling equipment that , that shine that you see on the floor .
Corrado De Gasperis: That shine that you see on the floor there is an epoxy that we had to lay down that outlines perfectly the footprint, you know, of the large system. You can't see the ends of the footprint. It's extremely large, 80, 90, 100 feet, you know, of processing, fully integrated, fully automated. We are testing the robotic arms. We are assembling the front-end crushers. We are pulling together, you know, all of the equipment. We're heavily finalizing the grading and the preparation. Fencing is gonna go up next week for the storage. It just gives you some context here. If you're looking at this picture, hopefully that building there in the background is where our demo facility, you know, sits, okay? You know, we're talking about major.
Corrado De Gasperis: That shine that you see on the floor there is an epoxy that we had to lay down that outlines perfectly the footprint, you know, of the large system. You can't see the ends of the footprint. It's extremely large, 80, 90, 100 feet, you know, of processing, fully integrated, fully automated. We are testing the robotic arms. We are assembling the front-end crushers. We are pulling together, you know, all of the equipment. We're heavily finalizing the grading and the preparation. Fencing is gonna go up next week for the storage. It just gives you some context here. If you're looking at this picture, hopefully that building there in the background is where our demo facility, you know, sits, okay? You know, we're talking about major.
Speaker #4: There is an epoxy that we had to lay down that outlines perfectly the footprint, you know, of the large system. You can't see the ends of the footprint.
Speaker #4: It's extremely large , 80 , 90 , 100ft . You know , of of , of processing fully fully automated . We we are testing the robotic arms .
Speaker #4: We are assembling the front end crushers . We are pulling together , you know , all of the equipment and we're heavily finalizing the grading and the preparation , fencing is going to go up next week for the storage .
Speaker #4: And it just gives you some context here . If you're looking at this picture , hopefully that that building there in the background is where our demo facility , you know , sits .
Speaker #4: Okay . So , you know , we're talking about major I kept saying like this enormous expansion or massive expansion for storage , you're starting to get a sense of it .
Corrado De Gasperis: I kept saying, like, this enormous expansion or massive expansion for storage. You're starting to get a sense of it. I was annoyed earlier, one of our investors posted 4 beautiful pictures. They must have been circling the site or something. I criticized my team and said, "These guys are getting better pictures than I'm getting." If you're on Twitter or X, you can see some even more elaborate pictures of this development. It's happening, you know, real-time. The Holy Grail, you know, is not, you know, getting $125 a ton for tailings or $375 a ton for tailings.
Corrado De Gasperis: I kept saying, like, this enormous expansion or massive expansion for storage. You're starting to get a sense of it. I was annoyed earlier, one of our investors posted 4 beautiful pictures. They must have been circling the site or something. I criticized my team and said, "These guys are getting better pictures than I'm getting." If you're on Twitter or X, you can see some even more elaborate pictures of this development. It's happening, you know, real-time. The Holy Grail, you know, is not, you know, getting $125 a ton for tailings or $375 a ton for tailings.
Speaker #4: I was annoyed earlier . One of our investors posted for beautiful pictures . They must have been circling the site or something , and I criticized my team and said , these guys are getting better pictures than I'm getting .
Speaker #4: So if you if you're on Twitter or X , you can , you can see some , some even more elaborate pictures of this development that's happening , you know , real time and the holy Grail , the holy Grail , you know , is not , you know , getting $125 a ton for tailings or $375 a ton for tailings .
Speaker #4: The whole those numbers reflect us capturing 50 or 60% of the silver value . And leaving , leaving the silicon metal and leaving the copper , you know , and depending on the types of panel leaving the gallium or the tellurium or the iridium behind , you know we've applied for a grant on and what we've already started the development work on is being able to capture the substantial majority .
Corrado De Gasperis: Those numbers reflect us capturing 50% or 60% of the silver value and leaving the silicon metal and leaving the copper, you know, and depending on the types of panel, leaving the gallium or the tellurium or the indium behind. You know, what we've applied it for a grant on and what we've already started the development work on is being able to capture the substantial majority, we'd love to say substantially all of the value from those critical metal recoveries, you know, from the tailings. We've been ridiculously busy site preparing. We've been ridiculously busy receiving equipment. We've been busy expanding the market, and that would be satisfactory. It's been exceptional that the team has made and forced the capacity and to design this refining solution.
Corrado De Gasperis: Those numbers reflect us capturing 50% or 60% of the silver value and leaving the silicon metal and leaving the copper, you know, and depending on the types of panel, leaving the gallium or the tellurium or the indium behind. You know, what we've applied it for a grant on and what we've already started the development work on is being able to capture the substantial majority, we'd love to say substantially all of the value from those critical metal recoveries, you know, from the tailings. We've been ridiculously busy site preparing. We've been ridiculously busy receiving equipment. We've been busy expanding the market, and that would be satisfactory. It's been exceptional that the team has made and forced the capacity and to design this refining solution.
Speaker #4: We'd love to say substantially all of the value from those critical metal recoveries, you know, from the tailings. So we've been ridiculously busy site preparing.
Speaker #4: We've been ridiculously busy receiving equipment . We've been busy expanding the market . And that that would that would be satisfactory . But but it's been exceptional that the team has made and forced the capacity into design .
Speaker #4: This refining solution , you know , we don't when we say we feel like we're a couple of years ahead in recycling , we're humble about that .
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, when we say we feel like we're a couple of years ahead in recycling, we're humble about that. We're not arrogant about it. We wanna expand it. We want to assume we're one day ahead. We don't wanna assume we're two years ahead. We're talking about recycling, we're not talking about refining. We don't see anybody even talking about these types of refining solutions, you know. The reason this is so important, and I think the reason, you know, our capital base is so interested is, you know, 3.5 million panels last year would load one of our production lines. In four years, that number's gonna be 33 million. You know, we would need 10 production lines, you know, to do that. I'm not sure if people appreciate it.
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, when we say we feel like we're a couple of years ahead in recycling, we're humble about that. We're not arrogant about it. We wanna expand it. We want to assume we're one day ahead. We don't wanna assume we're two years ahead. We're talking about recycling, we're not talking about refining. We don't see anybody even talking about these types of refining solutions, you know. The reason this is so important, and I think the reason, you know, our capital base is so interested is, you know, 3.5 million panels last year would load one of our production lines. In four years, that number's gonna be 33 million. You know, we would need 10 production lines, you know, to do that. I'm not sure if people appreciate it.
Speaker #4: We're not arrogant about it . We want to expand it . We want to assume we're one day ahead . We don't want to assume we're two years ahead , but we're talking about recycling .
Speaker #4: We're not talking about refining . We don't see anybody even talking about these types of refining solutions . You know , and the reason this is so important , and I think the reason , you know , our capital base is so interested is , you know , 3.5 million panels last year would , would , would load one of our production lines in four years , that number is going to be 33 million .
Speaker #4: You know , we would need we would need ten production lines , you know , to do that . And I'm not sure if people appreciate it .
Speaker #4: One production line that that $13 million of one production line can do , 3.3 million panels a year , but that facility that you just saw , it was permitted for two and a half production lines really three production lines with the capacity of doing 250,000 .
Corrado De Gasperis: One production line, that $13 million of one production line can do 3.3 million panels a year. But that facility that you just saw, it was permitted for two and a half production lines, really three production lines, with the capacity of doing 250,000. If this Southwest region does anything close to what we think it's gonna do, doubling the capacity, two and a half X-ing the capacity of that facility will have literally zero permitting lead time. Zero permitting lead time. It's already permitted. What it will require, of course, is, you know, equipment ordering lead time, which we can let the market tell us, you know, when to trigger, you know, that. And this is the old map that most of you have seen, but for any of you that haven't, you know, here's Arizona, Nevada, California.
Corrado De Gasperis: One production line, that $13 million of one production line can do 3.3 million panels a year. But that facility that you just saw, it was permitted for two and a half production lines, really three production lines, with the capacity of doing 250,000. If this Southwest region does anything close to what we think it's gonna do, doubling the capacity, two and a half X-ing the capacity of that facility will have literally zero permitting lead time. Zero permitting lead time. It's already permitted. What it will require, of course, is, you know, equipment ordering lead time, which we can let the market tell us, you know, when to trigger, you know, that. And this is the old map that most of you have seen, but for any of you that haven't, you know, here's Arizona, Nevada, California.
Speaker #4: So if this southwest region does anything close to what we think it's going to do , it doubling the capacity two and a half x-ing the capacity of that facility will have literally zero permitting lead time , zero permitting lead time .
Speaker #4: It's already permitted what it will require , of course , is equipment ordering , lead time , which we can let the market tell us , you know , when to trigger , you that and this this is the old map that most of you have seen .
Speaker #4: But for any of you that haven't , you know , here's Arizona , Nevada , California , these are the 1.3 billion , 1.4 billion panels that are deployed in the US .
Corrado De Gasperis: These are the 1.3 billion, 1.4 billion panels that are deployed in the US. The fatter the circle, the older the panel. That's why these two facilities in Nevada are so critical and why we're going after this half of the market, you know, so diligently, so vigorously. At an enhanced metal value, you know, you're not talking about, you know, $55 or 60 million of cash flow from one facility running full. You're talking about $75 to 80 million, you know, for one facility running full. That doesn't consider the enhancement that would come with the refining solution. Now, let me just spend a little bit more time on this monetization of non-core assets.
Corrado De Gasperis: These are the 1.3 billion, 1.4 billion panels that are deployed in the US. The fatter the circle, the older the panel. That's why these two facilities in Nevada are so critical and why we're going after this half of the market, you know, so diligently, so vigorously. At an enhanced metal value, you know, you're not talking about, you know, $55 or 60 million of cash flow from one facility running full. You're talking about $75 to 80 million, you know, for one facility running full. That doesn't consider the enhancement that would come with the refining solution. Now, let me just spend a little bit more time on this monetization of non-core assets.
Speaker #4: The fatter the circle, the older the panel. That's why these two facilities in Nevada are so critical, and why we're going after this.
Speaker #4: Half of the of the market , you know , so diligently . So , so vigorously . But but an enhanced metal value , you know , you're not talking about , you know , 55 or 60 million of cash flow from one facility running full .
Speaker #4: You're talking about $75 to $80 million, you know, for one facility running full. And that doesn't consider the enhancement that would come with the refining solution.
Speaker #4: Now , let me just spend a little bit more time on this . You know , monetisation of non-core assets . You know , some of you may have seen previously , you know , a higher a higher , you know , you know , NPV that we calculated for our mining assets , that number was correct .
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, some of you may have seen previously, you know, a higher NPV that we calculated for our mining assets. That number was correct. It stays correct. As I said earlier, these assets take some capital to put into production. As I said earlier, we're engaged with some very serious counterparties. They have capital. That's, I guess, the litmus test for me on are they serious, you know? They have capital. They have capital to deploy, and we're talking about a range of value of, you know, let's say $50 or 60 million. We're not necessarily talking about all cash up front, but we are talking about full monetization.
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, some of you may have seen previously, you know, a higher NPV that we calculated for our mining assets. That number was correct. It stays correct. As I said earlier, these assets take some capital to put into production. As I said earlier, we're engaged with some very serious counterparties. They have capital. That's, I guess, the litmus test for me on are they serious, you know? They have capital. They have capital to deploy, and we're talking about a range of value of, you know, let's say $50 or 60 million. We're not necessarily talking about all cash up front, but we are talking about full monetization.
Speaker #4: It stays correct . But as I said earlier , these assets take some capital to put into production . As I said earlier , we're engaged with some very , very serious counterparties .
Speaker #4: They have capital . That's , I guess , the litmus test for me on are they serious ? You know , they have capital , they have capital to deploy .
Speaker #4: And we're talking about a range of value of , you know , let's say 50 or 60 million . We're not necessarily talking about all cash up front , but we are talking about full monetization .
Corrado De Gasperis: What we would like to do is sell it for all cash, or we'll sell it for cash with some very, you know, relevant or meaningful milestones. You know, any dollar that we pull out of non-productive assets to put in our solar business, we believe is a home run. With the Sierra Springs, we have been allocating capital to that. You'll see that it increased. We have agreement now to convert that, you know, into ownership at extraordinary values. I'm gonna talk about that a little bit more. I'm gonna give you a little bit more color. I've been busy with this because it's super active. All right, Nevada went through a monstrous, you know, hyperscale data center expansion. It's listed right now as fifth or sixth in the US with projects under construction, with 29 projects under construction.
Corrado De Gasperis: What we would like to do is sell it for all cash, or we'll sell it for cash with some very, you know, relevant or meaningful milestones. You know, any dollar that we pull out of non-productive assets to put in our solar business, we believe is a home run. With the Sierra Springs, we have been allocating capital to that. You'll see that it increased. We have agreement now to convert that, you know, into ownership at extraordinary values. I'm gonna talk about that a little bit more. I'm gonna give you a little bit more color. I've been busy with this because it's super active. All right, Nevada went through a monstrous, you know, hyperscale data center expansion. It's listed right now as fifth or sixth in the US with projects under construction, with 29 projects under construction.
Speaker #4: What we would like to do is sell it for all cash , or we'll sell it for cash with some very , you know , relevant or meaningful milestones , you know , any dollar that we pull out of non-productive assets to put in our solar business , we believe is a home run with the Sierra Springs , we have been allocating capital to that .
Speaker #4: You'll see that it increased , but we have agreement now to to convert that , you know , into ownership at extraordinary values .
Speaker #4: And I'm going to talk about that a little bit more. I'm going to give you a little bit more color, but I've been busy with this because it's active, right?
Speaker #4: Nevada went through a monstrous , you know , hyperscale data center expansion . It's listed right now as fifth or sixth in the US with projects under construction with 29 projects under construction .
Corrado De Gasperis: It's every big name. We have an industrial park very close to us, not the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center. Everybody knows about that. Another one that's very close to us in Silver Springs that is out soliciting industrial lands for this purpose, and they secured access to power other than the grid. The grid's tapped out. The grid's not available until God knows when. We secured similarly access to that power. It required some small financial commitment initially, you know, small bond, $1.5 million of posting, which was easy, but it opened up the whole world for us. You know, now we've got. I'll be very frank, like I'm behind, you know, in being responsive to them.
Corrado De Gasperis: It's every big name. We have an industrial park very close to us, not the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center. Everybody knows about that. Another one that's very close to us in Silver Springs that is out soliciting industrial lands for this purpose, and they secured access to power other than the grid. The grid's tapped out. The grid's not available until God knows when. We secured similarly access to that power. It required some small financial commitment initially, you know, small bond, $1.5 million of posting, which was easy, but it opened up the whole world for us. You know, now we've got. I'll be very frank, like I'm behind, you know, in being responsive to them.
Speaker #4: And it's every big name we have a an industrial park , very , very close to us . Not the Tahoe , Reno Industrial Park .
Speaker #4: Everybody knows about that . Another one that's very close to us in Silver Springs . That is out soliciting industrial lands for this purpose .
Speaker #4: And they secured access to power . Other than the grid , the grid's tapped out , the grid's not available until God knows when .
Speaker #4: So we secured similarly access to that power required some small financial commitment initially . You know , small bond , a million , million and a half dollars of posting , which was was easy .
Speaker #4: But but but it opened up the whole world for us , you know , now , now we've got I'll be very frank , like I'm behind , you know , in , in being responsive to them .
Corrado De Gasperis: If that's annoying to you, it should be because it's annoying to me. The dollars that we're talking about are not $45 million or $50 million like we talked about before. It's $200 million. That doesn't include our properties that we own 100% and directly. As you can see, it's in everybody's interest for us to prioritize and monetize, you know, these assets. The mining assets, you know, last year we acquired the Heyward Quarry. You see it right here, you know, this Heyward target on the map. We also sold some of the northern properties, which are now taken off of this map.
Corrado De Gasperis: If that's annoying to you, it should be because it's annoying to me. The dollars that we're talking about are not $45 million or $50 million like we talked about before. It's $200 million. That doesn't include our properties that we own 100% and directly. As you can see, it's in everybody's interest for us to prioritize and monetize, you know, these assets. The mining assets, you know, last year we acquired the Heyward Quarry. You see it right here, you know, this Heyward target on the map. We also sold some of the northern properties, which are now taken off of this map.
Speaker #4: And if that's annoying to you , it should be because it's annoying to me . But the dollars that we're talking about are not 45 million or 50 million like we talked about before , it's a couple hundred million .
Speaker #4: And that doesn't include our properties that we own 100% . And directly . So as you can see , it's in everybody's interest for us to prioritize and monetize , you know , these assets , the mining assets , you know , last year we acquired the Haywood Quarry .
Speaker #4: You see it right here , you know , this Haywood target on the map . We also sold some of the northern properties , which are now taken off of this map .
Corrado De Gasperis: In selling those northern properties, you know, we also got these green, you know, there's about 240 acres that we added that fully support and surround both the mining of the Dayton asset and the processing for the Dayton asset. We got those 230 acres at no additional consideration. Between the Heyward property, which is ideal for processing Dayton, and those other properties which fully support the mining and the processing of Dayton, we've made this much more saleable, much more monetizable, you know. As I said earlier, we're fully engaged. You know, when we first announced that Heyward purchase, some people were like, "I thought we weren't interested in mining. I thought we were trying to monetize the mining." I just wanna make it clear that's exactly, you know, what those moves were designed to position us for.
Corrado De Gasperis: In selling those northern properties, you know, we also got these green, you know, there's about 240 acres that we added that fully support and surround both the mining of the Dayton asset and the processing for the Dayton asset. We got those 230 acres at no additional consideration. Between the Heyward property, which is ideal for processing Dayton, and those other properties which fully support the mining and the processing of Dayton, we've made this much more saleable, much more monetizable, you know. As I said earlier, we're fully engaged. You know, when we first announced that Heyward purchase, some people were like, "I thought we weren't interested in mining. I thought we were trying to monetize the mining." I just wanna make it clear that's exactly, you know, what those moves were designed to position us for.
Speaker #4: But in selling those northern properties , you know , we also got these green , you know , there's about 240 acres that we added that fully support and surround both the mining of the Dayton asset and the processing for the data and asset .
Speaker #4: We got those 230 acres at no additional consideration . So between the Haywood property , which is ideal for processing data and , and those other properties which fully support the mining and the processing of data and we've made this much more saleable , much more monetizable , you know , and as I said earlier , we're fully engaged .
Speaker #4: You know , when we first announced that , they would purchase , some people were like , I thought we weren't interested in mining .
Speaker #4: I thought we were trying to monetize the mining . And I just want to make it clear that's exactly , you know , what those moves were designed to position us for .
Corrado De Gasperis: These properties, they're flat, they're expansive, and they're very attractive to real miners, you know? We're really having productive conversations. Judd's getting very close, and I really appreciate that help and that support. Now, just more transparency on Sierra Springs, because there's approval on the Sierra Springs side, right? There's approval for Comstock to take the lead, for Comstock to drive this thing to the finish line, for Comstock to enable this bigger monetization. Of course, Comstock needs to benefit dramatically, you know, from that capacity. Where we are is we're sitting in the largest opportunity zone, if not the largest one of by far the largest opportunity zones in the United States.
Corrado De Gasperis: These properties, they're flat, they're expansive, and they're very attractive to real miners, you know? We're really having productive conversations. Judd's getting very close, and I really appreciate that help and that support. Now, just more transparency on Sierra Springs, because there's approval on the Sierra Springs side, right? There's approval for Comstock to take the lead, for Comstock to drive this thing to the finish line, for Comstock to enable this bigger monetization. Of course, Comstock needs to benefit dramatically, you know, from that capacity. Where we are is we're sitting in the largest opportunity zone, if not the largest one of by far the largest opportunity zones in the United States.
Speaker #4: And these properties , they're flat , they're expansive , and they're very , very attractive to real miners , you know , so we're really having productive conversations .
Speaker #4: Judd's Judd's getting very , very close . And I really appreciate that helping that support . Now just more transparency on Sierra Springs because there's approval on the Sierra Springs side , right ?
Speaker #4: There is approval for Comstock to take the lead, for Comstock to drive this thing to the finish line, for Comstock to enable this bigger monetization.
Speaker #4: And of course , Comstock needs to benefit you know , from from that capacity , what we're doing , what where we are is we're sitting in the largest opportunity zone .
Speaker #4: If not the largest one of by far the largest opportunity zones in the United States . It's not only an expansive amount of land sitting right by Lake Tahoe .
Corrado De Gasperis: It's not only an expansive amount of land sitting right by Lake Tahoe, the fact that it's 10mi from the California border, and maybe more importantly, one truck day away from 7 different states and 75 million people, is one of the biggest reasons that all of these data centers and all of these manufacturing companies are locating here. The other reason is that it's the environmental climate is almost perfect for optimal cooling of these data centers. It's even more than that. It's literally Northern Nevada is literally one of the safest places in the country when it comes to the hazard map or the disaster avoidance map. You know, we don't have hurricanes, we don't have hailstorms. We don't have all of these impediments.
Corrado De Gasperis: It's not only an expansive amount of land sitting right by Lake Tahoe, the fact that it's 10mi from the California border, and maybe more importantly, one truck day away from 7 different states and 75 million people, is one of the biggest reasons that all of these data centers and all of these manufacturing companies are locating here. The other reason is that it's the environmental climate is almost perfect for optimal cooling of these data centers. It's even more than that. It's literally Northern Nevada is literally one of the safest places in the country when it comes to the hazard map or the disaster avoidance map. You know, we don't have hurricanes, we don't have hailstorms. We don't have all of these impediments.
Speaker #4: The fact that it's ten miles from the California border and maybe more importantly , one truck day away from seven different states and 75 million people , is is one of the biggest reasons that all of these data centers and all of these manufacturing companies are locating here , the other reason is that it's the environmental climate is almost perfect for optimal cooling of these data centers , but it's even more than that .
Speaker #4: It's literally Nevada , northern Nevada is is literally one of the safest places in the country when it comes to the , the hazard map or the disaster avoidance map .
Speaker #4: You know , we don't have hurricanes , we don't have hailstorms , we don't have all of these impediments . And so it's not coincidence that Google , Apple , Microsoft , Switch tracked , you know , and , at least two dozen more are locating here .
Corrado De Gasperis: It's not coincidence that Google, Apple, Microsoft, Switch, Tract, you know, and at least 2 dozen more are locating here, you know, for mega hyperscaling. For us, it was when USA Parkway was built, you know, from a non-existent road to a dirt road to a 4-lane superhighway connecting Reno right down into Silver Springs, where, you know, I'm better lucky than good, you know, comment keeps coming out. You know, we were sitting right there, you know, ready to receive that ball. You know, it was still somewhat pioneering 2 years ago. You know, everything was happening in the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center. Everything was happening up in Fernley. People kept saying, "Well, what about Silver Springs? What about Silver Springs?" Well, you know, if you look at the map this way, you see this connecting highway.
Corrado De Gasperis: It's not coincidence that Google, Apple, Microsoft, Switch, Tract, you know, and at least 2 dozen more are locating here, you know, for mega hyperscaling. For us, it was when USA Parkway was built, you know, from a non-existent road to a dirt road to a 4-lane superhighway connecting Reno right down into Silver Springs, where, you know, I'm better lucky than good, you know, comment keeps coming out. You know, we were sitting right there, you know, ready to receive that ball. You know, it was still somewhat pioneering 2 years ago. You know, everything was happening in the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center. Everything was happening up in Fernley. People kept saying, "Well, what about Silver Springs? What about Silver Springs?" Well, you know, if you look at the map this way, you see this connecting highway.
Speaker #4: You know , for for mega hyperscaling and for us , it was when , when USA Parkway was built , you know , from , from a non-existent road to a dirt road to a four lane superhighway connecting Reno right down into silver Springs , where , you know , my better lucky than good , you know , comment keeps coming out .
Speaker #4: You know , we were sitting right there , you know , ready to receive that ball . You know , it's still somewhat pioneering .
Speaker #4: Two years ago , you know , everything was happening in the Torino Industrial Center . Everything was happening up in Fernley and people kept saying , well , what about Silver Springs ?
Speaker #4: What about Silver Springs ? Well , you know , if you look at the map this way , you see this connecting highway .
Corrado De Gasperis: Tesla's Gigafactory is really what put us on the map, but the data centers are really what exploded the map. It comes right down to our properties. You see the Comstock LODE here, just, you know, 30 minutes down the road of Highway 50, and then you see the congregation of this asset here. I haven't spoken about this much because we spend, you know, Fortunato and the team spend 110% of their time on Comstock Metals. You know, I like to think I spend 50% of my time supporting Comstock Metals. I want that to be 90% of my time. You know, Judd's handling the monetization of the mining assets. I'm handling the monetization of Sierra Springs. I think it's also important to say I've never took a penny from Silver Springs.
Corrado De Gasperis: Tesla's Gigafactory is really what put us on the map, but the data centers are really what exploded the map. It comes right down to our properties. You see the Comstock LODE here, just, you know, 30 minutes down the road of Highway 50, and then you see the congregation of this asset here. I haven't spoken about this much because we spend, you know, Fortunato and the team spend 110% of their time on Comstock Metals. You know, I like to think I spend 50% of my time supporting Comstock Metals. I want that to be 90% of my time. You know, Judd's handling the monetization of the mining assets. I'm handling the monetization of Sierra Springs. I think it's also important to say I've never took a penny from Silver Springs.
Speaker #4: Tesla's Gigafactory is really what put us on the map . But the data centers are really what exploded the map . It comes right down to our properties .
Speaker #4: You see the Comstock lode here just , you know , 30 minutes down the road , highway 50 . And then you see the congregation of this , this asset here I haven't spoken about this much because we spend , you know , Fortunato and the team spend 110% of their time on Comstock Metals .
Speaker #4: You know , I like to think I spend 50% of my time supporting Comstock Metals . I want that to be 90% of my time .
Speaker #4: You know , judge , judge handling the monetization of the mining assets . I'm handling the monetization of Sierra Springs . And I think it's also important to say I've never took a penny from Silver Springs .
Corrado De Gasperis: I've never gotten any compensation from Sierra Springs. I only own stock there because I bought it with my own money, and I've agreed to rectify that. Like, we are gonna align my interest only and solely with LODE. There is no even debate or discussion about it. I've already committed to it, right? What you're gonna see with, hopefully, some foresight, but certainly soon with hindsight, is that LODE investors own something very, very valuable here. As exciting as monetizing something that's worth $200 million potentially would be, what can be done with that money in solar recycling is a whole 'nother level of excitement. You can read up all the articles about what's happening in Northern Nevada. It's very easy to see them.
Corrado De Gasperis: I've never gotten any compensation from Sierra Springs. I only own stock there because I bought it with my own money, and I've agreed to rectify that. Like, we are gonna align my interest only and solely with LODE. There is no even debate or discussion about it. I've already committed to it, right? What you're gonna see with, hopefully, some foresight, but certainly soon with hindsight, is that LODE investors own something very, very valuable here. As exciting as monetizing something that's worth $200 million potentially would be, what can be done with that money in solar recycling is a whole 'nother level of excitement. You can read up all the articles about what's happening in Northern Nevada. It's very easy to see them.
Speaker #4: I've never gotten any compensation from Sierra Springs. I only own stock there because I bought it with my own money, and I've agreed to rectify that.
Speaker #4: Like we are going to align my interest only in solely with Lode . There is no even debate or discussion about it . I've already committed to it .
Speaker #4: Right . What you're going to see with hopefully some foresight , but certainly soon with hindsight , is that load investors own something very , very valuable here .
Speaker #4: As exciting as monetizing something that's worth a couple hundred million , potentially would What what , what that what can be done with that money in solar recycling is a whole nother is a whole nother level of excitement .
Speaker #4: You can read up all the articles about what's happening in Northern Nevada . It's very easy to see them . But what's really important to see is that when I talk about these values .
Corrado De Gasperis: What's really important to see is that when I talk about these values, I'm not pulling them out of the air. When we first started this thing, we were getting these properties for dirt. I mean, literally dirt cheap with almost like water rights coming for free. You know, industrial park was at $2 to 3, 4 a sq ft. You know, then it was $4 to 5 a sq ft. Then it was $6 to 8 a sq ft. Then Microsoft lands and starts, you know, pushing $10 a sq ft. Those are incredible numbers. If those numbers. If we're even close to those types of numbers, my numbers will be understated.
Corrado De Gasperis: What's really important to see is that when I talk about these values, I'm not pulling them out of the air. When we first started this thing, we were getting these properties for dirt. I mean, literally dirt cheap with almost like water rights coming for free. You know, industrial park was at $2 to 3, 4 a sq ft. You know, then it was $4 to 5 a sq ft. Then it was $6 to 8 a sq ft. Then Microsoft lands and starts, you know, pushing $10 a sq ft. Those are incredible numbers. If those numbers. If we're even close to those types of numbers, my numbers will be understated.
Speaker #4: I'm not pulling them out of the air . When we first started this thing , we were getting , we were getting these properties for dirt .
Speaker #4: I mean , literally dirt cheap with almost like water rights coming for free . But you know , Industrial Park was at 2 to 3 , four bucks a square foot .
Speaker #4: Then it was 4 to 5 bucks a square foot . And it was 6 to 8 bucks a square foot . Then Microsoft lands and starts , you know , pushing $10 a square foot .
Speaker #4: Those are incredible numbers . If those numbers , if we're even close to those types of numbers , my numbers will be understated .
Corrado De Gasperis: When Tract CEO came out and said that they're going to invest $100 billion in the next 10 years in Northern Nevada, and that means from the Prude Shelf right up here by Switch to right across the street from our properties in Silver Springs, there's 3 major developments that they're breaking ground on right now. If you don't understand it or if you'd like to see it'll only take you 20 minutes from Reno to see monster Tract platforms being built and positioned. That only enhances the value, like, of everything in this area. If you look at this map, you know, the airport being the blue center, everything else in color around us, you know, is part of our portfolio that I wanna monetize for us, except the top of number 11 here.
Corrado De Gasperis: When Tract CEO came out and said that they're going to invest $100 billion in the next 10 years in Northern Nevada, and that means from the Prude Shelf right up here by Switch to right across the street from our properties in Silver Springs, there's 3 major developments that they're breaking ground on right now. If you don't understand it or if you'd like to see it'll only take you 20 minutes from Reno to see monster Tract platforms being built and positioned. That only enhances the value, like, of everything in this area. If you look at this map, you know, the airport being the blue center, everything else in color around us, you know, is part of our portfolio that I wanna monetize for us, except the top of number 11 here.
Speaker #4: So, when Tracked CEO came out and said that they're going to invest $100 billion in the next ten years in northern Nevada, and that means from the Peru shelf right up here by Switch to right across the street from our properties in Silver Springs, there's three major developments that they're breaking ground on right now.
Speaker #4: If you don't understand it , or if you'd like to see it , it'll only take you 20 minutes from Reno to see monster tracked other platforms being being built in , positioned so that only enhances the value .
Speaker #4: Like if everything in this area and if you look at this map , you know , you know , the airport being the blue center , everything else in color around us , you know , is part of our portfolio that I want to monetize for us .
Speaker #4: Except the top of number 11 here, that's where Microsoft came in. And then right alongside of it, Tracked is coming in.
Corrado De Gasperis: That's where Microsoft came in. Then right alongside of it, Tract is coming in. You go from literally being out in the middle of nowhere on, you know, the loneliest highway in America to USA Parkway plugging into us to Tract and Microsoft coming in across the street. I mean, it's extraordinarily exciting. None of it would mean anything if the Great Basin Gas Transmission Company didn't show up four months ago and say, "We're gonna spend $2 billion, and we're gonna expand gas into this area, into Fernley, into TRIC, literally right into Silver Springs." If they didn't come out and say that, we'd still be talking about, you know, "Why, why the hell are we gonna...
Corrado De Gasperis: That's where Microsoft came in. Then right alongside of it, Tract is coming in. You go from literally being out in the middle of nowhere on, you know, the loneliest highway in America to USA Parkway plugging into us to Tract and Microsoft coming in across the street. I mean, it's extraordinarily exciting. None of it would mean anything if the Great Basin Gas Transmission Company didn't show up four months ago and say, "We're gonna spend $2 billion, and we're gonna expand gas into this area, into Fernley, into TRIC, literally right into Silver Springs." If they didn't come out and say that, we'd still be talking about, you know, "Why, why the hell are we gonna...
Speaker #4: So, you go from literally being out in the middle of nowhere on, you know, the Loneliest Highway in America, to USA Parkway, plugging into us, to TRIC, and Microsoft coming in across the street.
Speaker #4: I mean , it's , it's extraordinarily exciting , but none of it would mean anything if the Great Basin natural , you know , if the Great Basin natural gas transmission company didn't show up four months ago and say , we're going to spend a couple billion dollars and we're going to expand gas into this area , into firmly into tri center , literally right into silver Springs .
Speaker #4: If they didn't come out and say that , we'd still be talking about , you know , why the hell are we going ?
Corrado De Gasperis: Why can't we sell these properties?" But with that power commitment, the game has changed dramatically, and we're gonna see something, you know, really exciting happen. Took a little bit longer than I was expecting. I apologize. Zach, please let's just jump into Q&A.
Corrado De Gasperis: Why can't we sell these properties?" But with that power commitment, the game has changed dramatically, and we're gonna see something, you know, really exciting happen. Took a little bit longer than I was expecting. I apologize. Zach, please let's just jump into Q&A.
Speaker #4: Why can't we sell these properties ? But , but with that power commitment , the game has changed dramatically . And we're going to see something really exciting happen .
Speaker #4: So, it took a little bit longer than I was expecting. I apologize, but Zach, please, let's just jump into Q&A.
Zach Spencer: All right. Thank you, Corrado. As I mentioned at the beginning of the call, we received more than 35 questions prior to the call, and I can see that we have a number of additional questions coming through Zoom. Corrado, you did touch on a lot of these questions that we have. Perhaps you can just provide a little more color. Now pardon me if I do repeat-
Zach Spencer: All right. Thank you, Corrado. As I mentioned at the beginning of the call, we received more than 35 questions prior to the call, and I can see that we have a number of additional questions coming through Zoom. Corrado, you did touch on a lot of these questions that we have. Perhaps you can just provide a little more color. Now pardon me if I do repeat-
Speaker #2: All right . Thank you . Corrado , as I mentioned at the beginning of the call , we received more than 35 questions prior to the call .
Speaker #2: And I can see that we have a number of additional questions coming through Zoom, and Corrado, you did touch on a lot of these questions that we have.
Speaker #2: So perhaps you can just provide a little more color and yeah , part of me , if I do repeat , no worries , just go ahead .
Corrado De Gasperis: No worries. Just go ahead, Zach. Go ahead.
Corrado De Gasperis: No worries. Just go ahead, Zach. Go ahead.
Zach Spencer: Okay. The first question is, how do you allocate your time versus Judd's time versus the rest of the team's time?
Zach Spencer: Okay. The first question is, how do you allocate your time versus Judd's time versus the rest of the team's time?
Speaker #2: Okay , the first question is , how do you allocate your time versus Judd's time versus the rest of the team's time ?
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah. I think right now, in fairness, Judd's spending. You know, obviously you can see the time we spent, you know, from a corporate perspective, on recapitalizing, funding, and now, over the last month or so, on governance. That's really positive and took a little bit more of our time, you know, critically constructive and needed. I think probably I will spend 40% to 50% of my time, and I expect Judd the same, on monetizing these non-core assets, okay? It's a priority. Thank God, you know, the metals team is full, and they'll spend 110% of their time. They do nothing but metals all day long and all night long.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah. I think right now, in fairness, Judd's spending. You know, obviously you can see the time we spent, you know, from a corporate perspective, on recapitalizing, funding, and now, over the last month or so, on governance. That's really positive and took a little bit more of our time, you know, critically constructive and needed. I think probably I will spend 40% to 50% of my time, and I expect Judd the same, on monetizing these non-core assets, okay? It's a priority. Thank God, you know, the metals team is full, and they'll spend 110% of their time. They do nothing but metals all day long and all night long.
Speaker #4: Yeah , I so I think right now , in fairness , Judd's Judd spending , you know , obviously you can see the time we spent , you know , from a corporate perspective on , on Recapitalizing and funding and , and now , you know , over the last month or so on the governance .
Speaker #4: So that's , you know , that's really positive . And took a little bit more of our time . You know , critically , critically constructive and needed , I think , I think probably I will spend 40 to 50% of my time .
Speaker #4: And I expect Judd the same on monetizing these non-core assets . Okay . It's a priority . And thank God , you know , the metals team is full and they'll spend , you know , they'll spend 110% of their time .
Speaker #4: They do nothing but metals all day long and all night long . But I do feel like if we were , you know , directly , you know , just a solar panel recycling company , just a metal company , we would go from having a strong , capable , sufficient management team to overwhelming force , you know , and so I think ultimately we'd like to see , you know , 80% metals , 20% corporate , but but that'll only happen once we monetize , monetize the assets .
Corrado De Gasperis: I do feel like if we were, you know, directly, you know, just a solar panel recycling company, just a metal company, we would go from having a strong, capable, sufficient management team to overwhelming force. You know? I think ultimately we'd like to see, you know, 80% metals, 20% corporate. But that'll only happen once we monetize the assets. 50% now is 50% corporate, you know, but that 50% is heavily dedicated to, you know, monetizing these assets and the things, you know, the prerequisites needed to monetize those assets.
Corrado De Gasperis: I do feel like if we were, you know, directly, you know, just a solar panel recycling company, just a metal company, we would go from having a strong, capable, sufficient management team to overwhelming force. You know? I think ultimately we'd like to see, you know, 80% metals, 20% corporate. But that'll only happen once we monetize the assets. 50% now is 50% corporate, you know, but that 50% is heavily dedicated to, you know, monetizing these assets and the things, you know, the prerequisites needed to monetize those assets.
Speaker #4: So 50% metals , 50% corporate , you know , but but that 50% is heavily dedicated to monetizing these assets . And things .
Speaker #4: You know , the prerequisites needed to monetize those assets .
Zach Spencer: All right, Corrado, thank you for that. What is the pipeline of solar panels that will be available to recycle through the Silver Springs facility once it is open?
Zach Spencer: All right, Corrado, thank you for that. What is the pipeline of solar panels that will be available to recycle through the Silver Springs facility once it is open?
Speaker #2: All right. Thank you for that. What is the pipeline of solar panels that will be available to recycle through the Silver Springs facility once it is open?
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah. The that's one of the most major fronts of our efforts. We're signing master service agreements. We're signing master service agreements all the time right now. We've signed a couple extraordinary ones with e-recyclers, you know, the folks that have already established recycling businesses. That's about 10 to 15% of the market. We generally think about the major utilities as being 80% of the market. What's happening right now is we're signing up, you know. I can't think of a major utility that we've had a setback on, you know. That includes, you know, NextEra, Florida Power & Light. Everyone's pretty familiar with RWE, NV Energy, which is a Berkshire Hathaway, you know, Berkshire Hathaway Energy company, Brookfield, you know, Edison.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah. The that's one of the most major fronts of our efforts. We're signing master service agreements. We're signing master service agreements all the time right now. We've signed a couple extraordinary ones with e-recyclers, you know, the folks that have already established recycling businesses. That's about 10 to 15% of the market. We generally think about the major utilities as being 80% of the market. What's happening right now is we're signing up, you know. I can't think of a major utility that we've had a setback on, you know. That includes, you know, NextEra, Florida Power & Light. Everyone's pretty familiar with RWE, NV Energy, which is a Berkshire Hathaway, you know, Berkshire Hathaway Energy company, Brookfield, you know, Edison.
Speaker #4: Yeah . So the that's that's one of the most major fronts of our efforts . We're signing master service agreements . We're signing master service agreements all the time .
Speaker #4: Right now we're we've signed a couple extraordinary ones with E recyclers . You know , the folks that have already established recycling businesses , that's about 10 to 15% of the market .
Speaker #4: We generally think about the major utilities as being 80% of the market . So what's happening right now is we're signing up , you know , we're we , I don't , I can't think of a major utility that we've had a setback on .
Speaker #4: You know , and that that includes , you know , next era Florida light and power . Everyone's pretty familiar with r w e Nevada Energy , which is a Berkshire Hathaway .
Speaker #4: You know , Berkshire energy company , Brookfield , you know , we're , you know , Edison . I mean , we're we're really making hay signing these folks up , right ?
Corrado De Gasperis: I mean, we're really making hay with signing these folks up, right? The second point is, you know, we're signing up. I think we may have just signed up. We're not yet allowed to release it specifically, but one of the largest, if not the largest e-recyclers, you know, in the country, right? So those are the people we want to engage. We've also signed up, you know, our first actual solar manufacturing company, you know, which I was talking to Don about this, you know, as we were going through the board process. The solar manufacturers are not really our customers. You know, they do have some amount of breakage and waste, so they're a steady eddy. They ship us a truck or two a week.
Corrado De Gasperis: I mean, we're really making hay with signing these folks up, right? The second point is, you know, we're signing up. I think we may have just signed up. We're not yet allowed to release it specifically, but one of the largest, if not the largest e-recyclers, you know, in the country, right? So those are the people we want to engage. We've also signed up, you know, our first actual solar manufacturing company, you know, which I was talking to Don about this, you know, as we were going through the board process. The solar manufacturers are not really our customers. You know, they do have some amount of breakage and waste, so they're a steady eddy. They ship us a truck or two a week.
Speaker #4: The question we . The second point is , you know , we're signing up . I think we we may have just signed up .
Speaker #4: We're not yet allowed to release it specifically , but one of the largest , if not the largest recyclers , you know , in the country .
Speaker #4: Right . So , so those are the people we want to engage . We've also signed up , you know , our first actual solar manufacturing company , you know , which , you know , I was talking to Don about this , you know , as we were going through the board process , but , you know , the solar manufacturers are not really our customers .
Speaker #4: You know , they do have some amount of breakage and waste . So they're steady . Eddie . They ship us a truck or two a week , but they're very , very small part of the end of life market .
Corrado De Gasperis: They're a very, very small part of the end-of-life market, of course. They're the beginning-of-life market. They also point us to their customers, and they also integrate us with their returns. That's all coming along. To answer your question, locking in the customer is the most critical prerequisite. You know, making sure that we're qualified through their audits and their certification processes. It's not a super long lead time process, but it's a pretty meaningful lead time process. We've been doing that steadily for the last two years. As I think I mentioned earlier, and there is a breakthrough, too. There's a number of customers who, you know, their attitude is, well, you're certified, you're qualified, you're wonderful.
Corrado De Gasperis: They're a very, very small part of the end-of-life market, of course. They're the beginning-of-life market. They also point us to their customers, and they also integrate us with their returns. That's all coming along. To answer your question, locking in the customer is the most critical prerequisite. You know, making sure that we're qualified through their audits and their certification processes. It's not a super long lead time process, but it's a pretty meaningful lead time process. We've been doing that steadily for the last two years. As I think I mentioned earlier, and there is a breakthrough, too. There's a number of customers who, you know, their attitude is, well, you're certified, you're qualified, you're wonderful.
Speaker #4: Of course, they're the beginning of the life market, but they also point us to their customers. And they also integrate us with their returns.
Speaker #4: And so that's all coming along . But to answer your question Locking in the customer is the most critical prerequisite . You know , making sure that we're qualified through their audits and their certification processes .
Speaker #4: It's not a super long lead time process , but it's a pretty meaningful lead time process . So we've been doing that steadily for the last two years .
Speaker #4: And so as I think I mentioned earlier , and there is there is a breakthrough to there's , there's a number of customers who , you know , they , their attitude is where you're certified , you're qualified , you're wonderful When the big machines up and running , you know , we'll start sending more panels because we want our certificate of destruction pretty rapidly .
Corrado De Gasperis: When the big machine's up and running, you know, we'll start sending more panels because we want our certificate of destruction pretty rapidly, okay? The profile should be a couple hundred thousand dollars a month to half a million dollars a month to a million dollars a month to two, you know, to two million dollars a month. $2 million a month is $24, 25 million run rate of revenue. That will be remarkably profitable, you know, and then we just grow it from there. We still believe that by the end of 2027, facility number 1 will be running full. Facility number 2 should be in the 20% to 30% capacity utilization range. Those are really rough estimates, right? Because we don't see a smooth linear up project progression here.
Corrado De Gasperis: When the big machine's up and running, you know, we'll start sending more panels because we want our certificate of destruction pretty rapidly, okay? The profile should be a couple hundred thousand dollars a month to half a million dollars a month to a million dollars a month to two, you know, to two million dollars a month. $2 million a month is $24, 25 million run rate of revenue. That will be remarkably profitable, you know, and then we just grow it from there. We still believe that by the end of 2027, facility number 1 will be running full. Facility number 2 should be in the 20% to 30% capacity utilization range. Those are really rough estimates, right? Because we don't see a smooth linear up project progression here.
Speaker #4: Okay , so , but the profile should be a couple hundred thousand dollars a month to half $1 million a month to $1 million a month to , to , to , to , you know , to $2 million a month , $2 million a month is 25 million , 24 , 25 million run rate of revenue .
Speaker #4: That's will be will be remarkably profitable . You know , and then we just grow it from there . We still believe that by the end of 2027 , facility number one will be running full facility .
Speaker #4: Number two should be in the 20 to 30% capacity utilization range . But those are really rough estimates , right ? Because we don't see a smooth linear up progression here .
Corrado De Gasperis: We see a lot of spiking. We see a lot of deferred maintenance. We see a lot of deferred recycling, you know. Once we click in, you know, then the spikes will be bumpier. We have the capacity to handle it, and then we have the storage to handle it. Now, one critical point here. We are now being engaged, you know, by not just the largest utilities, but the owners of the largest utilities. Very strategic discussions. There is a recognition here that they need to lock up some capacity, right? It's finally coming through and those hope to have some, you know, very meaningful discussions, you know, this year.
Corrado De Gasperis: We see a lot of spiking. We see a lot of deferred maintenance. We see a lot of deferred recycling, you know. Once we click in, you know, then the spikes will be bumpier. We have the capacity to handle it, and then we have the storage to handle it. Now, one critical point here. We are now being engaged, you know, by not just the largest utilities, but the owners of the largest utilities. Very strategic discussions. There is a recognition here that they need to lock up some capacity, right? It's finally coming through and those hope to have some, you know, very meaningful discussions, you know, this year.
Speaker #4: We see a lot of spiking . We see a lot of deferred maintenance . We see a lot of deferred recycling . You know , so so once we click in , you know , then the spikes will be bumpier .
Speaker #4: We have the capacity to handle it . And then we have the storage to handle it . Now . One critical point here we are now being engaged .
Speaker #4: You know , by not just the largest utilities . But the owners of the largest utilities , very strategic discussions . There is a recognition here that they need to lock up some capacity , right .
Speaker #4: So it's finally coming through and those who hope to have some , you know , very meaningful discussions , you know , this year , you know what I mean to say is we're having very meaningful discussions now , very meaningful outcomes .
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, what I mean to say is we're having very meaningful discussions now, very meaningful outcomes this year, you know, in terms of what specifically that will mean, right, to forward volumes. It's coming, right? It's just it's slower than anyone would ever hope. But setting the foundation is the critical thing. One of the ways I've described this to people is if our business this year, you know, was, you know, 20,000 or 30,000 tons, the same exact customer flow in 2030 would be 300,000 tons, right? These are the customers who are gonna see a 10x increase in their end of life. They may even be higher because they're gonna lead that increase in end of life. You know, the 3.5 million from last year to 33 million in 2030.
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, what I mean to say is we're having very meaningful discussions now, very meaningful outcomes this year, you know, in terms of what specifically that will mean, right, to forward volumes. It's coming, right? It's just it's slower than anyone would ever hope. But setting the foundation is the critical thing. One of the ways I've described this to people is if our business this year, you know, was, you know, 20,000 or 30,000 tons, the same exact customer flow in 2030 would be 300,000 tons, right? These are the customers who are gonna see a 10x increase in their end of life. They may even be higher because they're gonna lead that increase in end of life. You know, the 3.5 million from last year to 33 million in 2030.
Speaker #4: This year . You know , in terms of what specifically that will mean , right ? To forward volumes , it it's coming right .
Speaker #4: It's just it's slower than anyone would ever hope . But the foundation setting , the foundation is the critical thing . One of the ways I've described this to people is if our business this year , you know , was , you know , 20 or 30,000 tons .
Speaker #4: The same exact customer flow in 20 , 30 would be 300,000 tons , right ? These are the customers who are going to see a ten x increase in their end of life .
Speaker #4: They may even be higher because they're going to lead that increase in end of life. You know, the 3.5 million from last year to 33 million in 2030.
Corrado De Gasperis: We're positioning for great, you know, almost organic growth. It's kind of a perverse or backwards way of thinking about it. Locking in the customers that really have the biggest installations means locking in the biggest end-of-life replacement scheme. Sorry for that. It was a little long-winded, but.
Corrado De Gasperis: We're positioning for great, you know, almost organic growth. It's kind of a perverse or backwards way of thinking about it. Locking in the customers that really have the biggest installations means locking in the biggest end-of-life replacement scheme. Sorry for that. It was a little long-winded, but.
Speaker #4: So we're positioning for great , great , you know , almost , almost organic growth . It's kind of a perverse or backwards way of thinking about it .
Speaker #4: But locking in the customers that really have the biggest installations means locking in the biggest end-of-life replacement scheme. Sorry for that.
Speaker #4: It was a little long-winded, but
Zach Spencer: This might be a short one for you. Where do we stand with the delivery of the first recycling facility in terms of timing and cost?
Zach Spencer: This might be a short one for you. Where do we stand with the delivery of the first recycling facility in terms of timing and cost?
Speaker #2: This might be a short one for you. Where do we stand with the delivery of the first recycling facility, in terms of timing and cost?
Corrado De Gasperis: I think we received all of our equipment and started to receive the components for the oven. I mentioned it earlier. I just looked at the shipping schedules for the ovens. It's literally like 20 monster 18-wheel, you know, truckload containers. Like, I was surprised at the magnitude of the logistics, right? To get those ovens to us. Those are starting, you know, the schedule says they start coming next week. They stop coming within, you know, 2 weeks. Then we have everything. Then we've already started installation. We've already started testing and commissioning the equipment. If those ovens had arrived 4 weeks ago, they would be sitting around because the sequence is pretty precise, you know, in terms of what needs to be installed and tested and then processed.
Speaker #4: So we have we I think we received all of our equipment and started to receive the components for the oven . I just mentioned it earlier .
Corrado De Gasperis: I think we received all of our equipment and started to receive the components for the oven. I mentioned it earlier. I just looked at the shipping schedules for the ovens. It's literally like 20 monster 18-wheel, you know, truckload containers. Like, I was surprised at the magnitude of the logistics, right? To get those ovens to us. Those are starting, you know, the schedule says they start coming next week. They stop coming within, you know, 2 weeks. Then we have everything. Then we've already started installation. We've already started testing and commissioning the equipment. If those ovens had arrived 4 weeks ago, they would be sitting around because the sequence is pretty precise, you know, in terms of what needs to be installed and tested and then processed.
Speaker #4: I just looked at the shipping schedules for the ovens . It's literally like 20 monster , 18 wheel , you know , truckload containers .
Speaker #4: Like I was surprised at the at the magnitude of the logistics , right ? To get those ovens to us . Those are starting , you know , that schedule says they start coming next week .
Speaker #4: They stop coming within two weeks. Then we have everything, and then we've already started installation. We've already started testing and commissioning the equipment.
Speaker #4: If those ovens had arrived four weeks ago , they would be sitting around because the sequence is pretty precise . You know , in terms of what , you know , what needs to be installed and tested .
Corrado De Gasperis: In that regard, you know, we feel, you know, again, maybe three or four weeks of slippage, that was fully buffered in our plans, right? We'll be up and running in Q2. I think that's gonna be a huge milestone. Huge milestone.
Speaker #4: And then processed . So in that regard , you know , we feel , you know , again , maybe 3 or 4 weeks of , of slippage that was fully buffered in our plans , right ?
Corrado De Gasperis: In that regard, you know, we feel, you know, again, maybe three or four weeks of slippage, that was fully buffered in our plans, right? We'll be up and running in Q2. I think that's gonna be a huge milestone. Huge milestone.
Speaker #4: So we'll be up and running in Q2 . And I think that's going to be a huge milestone , huge milestone .
Zach Spencer: Speaking of sequence, please review the timetable for the second recycling project.
Zach Spencer: Speaking of sequence, please review the timetable for the second recycling project.
Speaker #2: And speaking of sequence, please review the timetable for the second recycling project—so, initial revenue and probable location.
Corrado De Gasperis: So-
Corrado De Gasperis: So-
Zach Spencer: Initial revenue and probable location.
Zach Spencer: Initial revenue and probable location.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah. Yep. It's gonna be outside of Vegas, Clark County, for sure. That's where all the infrastructure is. There's more infrastructure in Clark County in Vegas than there is in Silver Springs, you know, frankly. We have a site. We're in final stages of locking down the terms. We've already submitted the permit because we know where the site is. You know, I think the question is, when do we order the equipment? You know, last time I asked Fortunato, he said as soon as we possibly can because the equipment lead times. We raised the money in August, we ordered the equipment the next day. We were looking at a 5 to 6 month lead time. It turned out to be 7 to 8. Okay.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah. Yep. It's gonna be outside of Vegas, Clark County, for sure. That's where all the infrastructure is. There's more infrastructure in Clark County in Vegas than there is in Silver Springs, you know, frankly. We have a site. We're in final stages of locking down the terms. We've already submitted the permit because we know where the site is. You know, I think the question is, when do we order the equipment? You know, last time I asked Fortunato, he said as soon as we possibly can because the equipment lead times. We raised the money in August, we ordered the equipment the next day. We were looking at a 5 to 6 month lead time. It turned out to be 7 to 8. Okay.
Speaker #4: Yeah , yeah , to be outside of Vegas , Clark County for sure . That's where all the infrastructure is . There's more infrastructure in Clark County in Vegas than there is in Silver Springs .
Speaker #4: You know , frankly , we we have a site we're in final stages of locking down the terms We've already submitted the permit because we know where the site is You know , I think the question is when do we order the equipment ?
Speaker #4: You know , last time I asked Fortunato , he said , as soon as we possibly can , because the equipment lead times from when we first we raised the money in August .
Speaker #4: We ordered the equipment the next day. We were looking at a 5- to 6-month lead time. It turned out to be 7 to 8.
Corrado De Gasperis: If 7 to 8 is the real lead time, although I think there's some arguments now that we've gone through this process that it would be shorter, then we probably wanna order the equipment, you know, sooner rather than later. If you're ordering equipment in May, you could have it arriving in December. The process should look and feel, you know, maybe 3 months faster, you know, from a calendar perspective than the first facility, or it could mirror it very closely, right? Commissioning in Q1, operating in Q2. I'd love to see commissioning in Q4, operating in Q1. As soon as we order the equipment, we'll be able to communicate that.
Speaker #4: Okay , so . So if 7 to 8 is the real lead time , although I think there's some arguments now that we've gone through this process that it would be shorter than we probably want to order the equipment sooner rather than later .
Corrado De Gasperis: If 7 to 8 is the real lead time, although I think there's some arguments now that we've gone through this process that it would be shorter, then we probably wanna order the equipment, you know, sooner rather than later. If you're ordering equipment in May, you could have it arriving in December. The process should look and feel, you know, maybe 3 months faster, you know, from a calendar perspective than the first facility, or it could mirror it very closely, right? Commissioning in Q1, operating in Q2. I'd love to see commissioning in Q4, operating in Q1. As soon as we order the equipment, we'll be able to communicate that.
Speaker #4: So if you're recording equipment in May , you could have it arriving in December . The process should look and feel , you know , maybe three months faster , you know , from a calendar perspective , then than than the first facility .
Speaker #4: Or it could mirror it very closely , right ? Commissioning in Q1 , operating in Q2 . I'd love to see commissioning in Q4 , operating in Q1 .
Speaker #4: And as soon as we order the equipment , we'll be able to , to , to communicate that , okay .
Zach Spencer: Okay. Sticking with Comstock Metals, you've outlined a seven-facility national model with a central refinery hub. What is the capital requirement per facility at the scale you're targeting?
Zach Spencer: Okay. Sticking with Comstock Metals, you've outlined a seven-facility national model with a central refinery hub. What is the capital requirement per facility at the scale you're targeting?
Speaker #2: And sticking with Comstock Metals , you've outlined a seven facility , national model with a central refinery hub . What is the capital requirement per facility at the scale you're targeting ?
Corrado De Gasperis: We've always said, you know, recycling facility, 12 to 15, okay? You know, really that range is tied to if we're leasing a facility, it's $13 million. That's where we're ending up, right, with facility number one. If we had to buy a facility, you might have to put a deposit down, it might be 15, you know, maybe 16 at the most. It's a nice tight range. It's not a lot. $12 to 15 million we'll stick with. Maybe 13 to 16 is buffered. That's a good number. That's for each facility. As you heard earlier, you know, $75 million plus in cash flow when they're running full. That profile is beautiful. The central refinery, though, is still conceptual. Like, we are certainly not going to build, you know, seven refineries.
Corrado De Gasperis: We've always said, you know, recycling facility, 12 to 15, okay? You know, really that range is tied to if we're leasing a facility, it's $13 million. That's where we're ending up, right, with facility number one. If we had to buy a facility, you might have to put a deposit down, it might be 15, you know, maybe 16 at the most. It's a nice tight range. It's not a lot. $12 to 15 million we'll stick with. Maybe 13 to 16 is buffered. That's a good number. That's for each facility. As you heard earlier, you know, $75 million plus in cash flow when they're running full. That profile is beautiful. The central refinery, though, is still conceptual. Like, we are certainly not going to build, you know, seven refineries.
Speaker #4: So we've always said , you know , recycling facility 12 to 15 . Okay . And you know , really that range is tied to if we're leasing a facility , it's it's 13 million .
Speaker #4: That's where we're ending up , right ? With , with the , facility , number one , if we had to buy a facility , you might have to put a deposit down .
Speaker #4: It might be 15 . You know , maybe 16 at the most . So it's a nice tight range . It's not a lot .
Speaker #4: Twelve to fifteen million will stick, with maybe thirteen to sixteen as buffered. That's a good number. And that's for each facility.
Speaker #4: As you heard earlier . You know , 75 million plus in cash flow . And they're running full . So that profile is beautiful .
Speaker #4: The central refinery though , is still conceptual , like we are certainly not going to build , you know , seven refineries . You know , ideally there could be one maybe very centrally located for the math on that is if a recycling facility is taking in 100,000 tons and 10 to 15% are tailings , you're going to get midpoint 12,500 tons of tailings per year per facility .
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, ideally, there could be one, maybe very centrally located. The math on that is if a recycling facility is taking in 100,000 tons and 10% to 15% are tailings, you're gonna get midpoint 12,500 tons of tailings per year per facility. If you have 7 facilities, that's 100,000 tons of tailings. That's a pretty good size refining operation. You could start with one in Nevada, and that would be. You know, if you did that, you'd probably either have one big one there or you might have one on the West Coast, you know, Nevada-based, one on the East Coast, then you'd have two. We don't know the answer to that yet.
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, ideally, there could be one, maybe very centrally located. The math on that is if a recycling facility is taking in 100,000 tons and 10% to 15% are tailings, you're gonna get midpoint 12,500 tons of tailings per year per facility. If you have 7 facilities, that's 100,000 tons of tailings. That's a pretty good size refining operation. You could start with one in Nevada, and that would be. You know, if you did that, you'd probably either have one big one there or you might have one on the West Coast, you know, Nevada-based, one on the East Coast, then you'd have two. We don't know the answer to that yet.
Speaker #4: If you have seven facilities , that's 100,000 tons of tailings . That's a pretty good size refining operation . You could start with one in Nevada , and that would be .
Speaker #4: You know , if you did that , you'd probably either have one big one . There or you might have one on the West Coast .
Speaker #4: You know , Nevada based one on the East Coast . Then you'd have two . We don't know the answer to that yet .
Corrado De Gasperis: We still need to get to FID on the engineering, but we're projecting the capital for one large refining operation like that 100,000-ton intake level to be about $30 million, right? In the universe of refining capital, it's low, right? When people talk about aluminum refineries, and pyrolytic refineries and smelters, they think in the billions. Like, no, not in our scenario. You know, we're very precise, very fine industrial tailing, so that's more what we're looking like. I hope that answers the question.
Corrado De Gasperis: We still need to get to FID on the engineering, but we're projecting the capital for one large refining operation like that 100,000-ton intake level to be about $30 million, right? In the universe of refining capital, it's low, right? When people talk about aluminum refineries, and pyrolytic refineries and smelters, they think in the billions. Like, no, not in our scenario. You know, we're very precise, very fine industrial tailing, so that's more what we're looking like. I hope that answers the question.
Speaker #4: We still need to get to FID on the engineering , but we're projecting the capital for one large refining operation like that 100,000 ton of intake level to be about 30 million , right ?
Speaker #4: So , so in the scheme of in the universe of refining capital , it's low , right ? When people talk about aluminum refineries and pyrolytic refineries and smelters , they think in the billions , like , no , not in our scenario .
Speaker #4: You know , we're very precise , very fine industrial tailing . So that's more what we're looking like . I hope that answers the question .
Zach Spencer: Corrado, pivoting to SSLF.
Zach Spencer: Corrado, pivoting to SSLF.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah.
Speaker #2: Corrado pivoting to Soph . Yeah , the values sound high . What are the prerequisites for monetizing these assets ? And what's the timeline ?
Zach Spencer: The values sound high.
Zach Spencer: The values sound high.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah.
Zach Spencer: What are the prerequisites for monetizing these assets, and what's the timeline?
Zach Spencer: What are the prerequisites for monetizing these assets, and what's the timeline?
Corrado De Gasperis: Yep. I think. Look, there's probably five prerequisites. Let's just think them through. Industrially zoned land, check. Flat, you know, developable land, super check. Water rights, check. Fiber, check. Electricity, right? That's the fifth one is where, you know, we sort of hit the wall. If I could give people context, right? The Great Basin Gas Transmission Company came out with an open bid. This is a FERC-regulated utility bid. We committed to, like, 50,000 dekatherms a day. I think they got bids for 800,000 dekatherms, you know. If our number's, you know, 300MW, you know, their number is 15 times that, 13 times that, you know. That's real. That's certified. That tells you what's happening in northern Nevada in terms of people needing, wanting, and committing capital to power.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yep. I think. Look, there's probably five prerequisites. Let's just think them through. Industrially zoned land, check. Flat, you know, developable land, super check. Water rights, check. Fiber, check. Electricity, right? That's the fifth one is where, you know, we sort of hit the wall. If I could give people context, right? The Great Basin Gas Transmission Company came out with an open bid. This is a FERC-regulated utility bid. We committed to, like, 50,000 dekatherms a day. I think they got bids for 800,000 dekatherms, you know. If our number's, you know, 300MW, you know, their number is 15 times that, 13 times that, you know. That's real. That's certified. That tells you what's happening in northern Nevada in terms of people needing, wanting, and committing capital to power.
Speaker #4: Yep . So I think , look , there's probably five prerequisites . Let's just think them through industrially zoned land check that , you know , developable land super check water rights check fiber check electricity and right .
Speaker #4: That's that fifth one is where, you know, we sort of hit the wall. If I could give people context, right?
Speaker #4: The Great Basin Transmission Company came out with an open bid . This is a Ferc regulated utility bid We committed to like 50,000 dekatherms a day .
Speaker #4: I think they they got bids for 800,000 deca therms , you know , so if our numbers , you know , if our numbers 300MW , you know , their numbers 15 times that 13 times that so , so that's real .
Speaker #4: That's certified . That tells you what's happening in Northern Nevada in terms of people needing wanting and committing capital to power . So what we need to do , we need to do is we need to close out on the land position .
Corrado De Gasperis: What we need to do is close out on the land position. There's still some capital, you know, required to do that. Close out on the land position, have clean title, clean and final environmental reports. We already done phase one previously, super clean, so no issues. Just need to be updated, right? Water rights certification. We have thousands of acre feet of water rights, that allows for a lot of flexibility with the data centers. Some are. You know, there was a phase of all-electric cooling, then the grids ran out of electricity. Now everybody's hell-bent on, you know, the technologies that reduce, you know, water in data cooling. But you gotta have water rights, right?
Corrado De Gasperis: What we need to do is close out on the land position. There's still some capital, you know, required to do that. Close out on the land position, have clean title, clean and final environmental reports. We already done phase one previously, super clean, so no issues. Just need to be updated, right? Water rights certification. We have thousands of acre feet of water rights, that allows for a lot of flexibility with the data centers. Some are. You know, there was a phase of all-electric cooling, then the grids ran out of electricity. Now everybody's hell-bent on, you know, the technologies that reduce, you know, water in data cooling. But you gotta have water rights, right?
Speaker #4: There's still some capital , you know , required to do that close out on the land position . Have clean title , clean and final environmental reports .
Speaker #4: We already done phase one previously . Super clean . So no issues . You just need to be updated . Right ? Water rights certification .
Speaker #4: We have thousands of acre feet of water rights that that allows for a lot of flexibility with the data centers . Some , some are , you know , there was a , there was a there was a phase of all electric cooling .
Speaker #4: Then the grids ran out of electricity . Now everybody's hell bent on , you know , the technologies that reduce . You know , water in data cooling .
Corrado De Gasperis: If we do those three things, right? Just perfect the land, perfect the power. I feel there's a little capital there, but there is also administrative work. Like, probably 60 days worth of work. You know, that timing would be perfect. Data room would open up and then, you know, 60- to 90-day process. We're looking at, you know, we're absolutely looking at 2026. You know, getting this done in 2026.
Speaker #4: But you got to have water rights , right ? So , so , so if we do those three things right , just perfect the land , perfect , the power , I feel there's a little capital there , but there is also administrative work , like probably 60 days worth of work .
Corrado De Gasperis: If we do those three things, right? Just perfect the land, perfect the power. I feel there's a little capital there, but there is also administrative work. Like, probably 60 days worth of work. You know, that timing would be perfect. Data room would open up and then, you know, 60- to 90-day process. We're looking at, you know, we're absolutely looking at 2026. You know, getting this done in 2026.
Speaker #4: You know , that timing would be perfect . Data room would open up and then , you know , 60 to 90 day process .
Speaker #4: So we're looking at , you know , we're absolutely looking at 20 , 26 , you know , getting this done in 2026 .
Zach Spencer: Thank you, Corrado. We do have a question on Bioleum management. Please provide an update on the Bioleum team.
Zach Spencer: Thank you, Corrado. We do have a question on Bioleum management. Please provide an update on the Bioleum team.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Corrado. We do have a question on biophilia management. Please provide an update on the Violin team.
Corrado De Gasperis: Absolutely. I think most people appreciate that in March of last year, you know, Marathon Petroleum invested directly into what was previously known as Comstock Fuels. Then in May, a large investor came in with another direct investment. It's about $35 million in total of, call it Series A investment directly into the newly reestablished Bioleum Corporation. There's a really strong core group of founders, I'd say 10 people. You know, David Winsness, you know, Rahul Bobbili. But there's a strong group of founders there. But there's an even bigger group, you know. There's probably 40 professionals. And, you know, let me just say this.
Corrado De Gasperis: Absolutely. I think most people appreciate that in March of last year, you know, Marathon Petroleum invested directly into what was previously known as Comstock Fuels. Then in May, a large investor came in with another direct investment. It's about $35 million in total of, call it Series A investment directly into the newly reestablished Bioleum Corporation. There's a really strong core group of founders, I'd say 10 people. You know, David Winsness, you know, Rahul Bobbili. But there's a strong group of founders there. But there's an even bigger group, you know. There's probably 40 professionals. And, you know, let me just say this.
Speaker #4: Absolutely . So I think most people appreciate that in March of last year , you know , Marathon Petroleum invested directly into what was previously known as Comstock Fuels .
Speaker #4: And then in May, a large investor came in with another direct investment. It's about $35 million in total of, call it, Series A investment directly into the newly reestablished by William Corporation.
Speaker #4: There's a really strong core group of founders . I say ten people . You know , David Winsnes , you know , Rahul Babili , but there's there's , you know , Chad , Michael Black , there's , there's , there's a strong group of founders there , but there's a , you know , even bigger group .
Speaker #4: There's probably 40 professionals and , you know , let me just say this . That the whole , their whole claim to fame , you know , their equivalent of fortunato's zero landfill , highly efficient , you know , thermal solution is , is their ability to unlock lignin in woody biomass .
Corrado De Gasperis: Their whole claim to fame, you know, their equivalent of Fortunado's zero landfill, highly efficient, thermal solution is their ability to unlock lignin in woody biomass. We call it lignocellulosic technology. That company's roster includes like Dr. Christian Dahlstrom from Sweden, Dr. Marcus Jewelthree from Sweden, Dr. Colin Anson from Madison, Jordan Thott from Wausau, Dr. Elvis Ekebabi from New York, originally from Nigeria, Dana Hatch, Bob Spence, Andrew Hill. These are all chemists and chemical engineers. You have Dr. Greg Beckham at the National Laboratory of the Rockies, previously known as NREL, Dr. Yuri Roman at MIT. Like, you're literally talking about the top 10 lignocellulosic professionals, like, in the world, you know?
Corrado De Gasperis: Their whole claim to fame, you know, their equivalent of Fortunado's zero landfill, highly efficient, thermal solution is their ability to unlock lignin in woody biomass. We call it lignocellulosic technology. That company's roster includes like Dr. Christian Dahlstrom from Sweden, Dr. Marcus Jewelthree from Sweden, Dr. Colin Anson from Madison, Jordan Thott from Wausau, Dr. Elvis Ekebabi from New York, originally from Nigeria, Dana Hatch, Bob Spence, Andrew Hill. These are all chemists and chemical engineers. You have Dr. Greg Beckham at the National Laboratory of the Rockies, previously known as NREL, Dr. Yuri Roman at MIT. Like, you're literally talking about the top 10 lignocellulosic professionals, like, in the world, you know?
Speaker #4: So we call it lignocellulosic technology . But , but that company's roster includes like doctor Christian Dahlstrom from Sweden , doctor Marcus Guthrie from Sweden , doctor Colin Anson from Madison , Jordan thought from Warsaw , doctor Elvis from New York , originally from Nigeria .
Speaker #4: Dana Hatch , Bob Rozmiarek , Andrew Howell these are all chemists and chemical engineers . And then you have Doctor Gregg Beckham at the National Laboratory of the Rockies , previously known as NREL .
Speaker #4: Doctor Yuri Roman at MIT . Like you're literally talking about the top ten Lignocellulosic professionals , like in the world , you know , and , and what , what they're coming out with here is the highest yielding , lowest carbon ability to take waste into low carbon fuels .
Corrado De Gasperis: What they're coming out with here is the highest yield, lowest carbon ability to take waste into low carbon fuels. You know, it kinda, you know, people probably feel. That's the management answer, right? Chad Michael Black is the president. Chad is leading this incredible group, right, of primarily engineers and material scientists, right, to final investment decision that allows them to move into biorefining. We haven't gone stealth per se with Bioleum, but there was a concerted effort for them to be independent, for them to have their own capital source, for them to ultimately go Series B and IPO. As you hear me talk about monetizing assets, you know, I don't.
Corrado De Gasperis: What they're coming out with here is the highest yield, lowest carbon ability to take waste into low carbon fuels. You know, it kinda, you know, people probably feel. That's the management answer, right? Chad Michael Black is the president. Chad is leading this incredible group, right, of primarily engineers and material scientists, right, to final investment decision that allows them to move into biorefining. We haven't gone stealth per se with Bioleum, but there was a concerted effort for them to be independent, for them to have their own capital source, for them to ultimately go Series B and IPO. As you hear me talk about monetizing assets, you know, I don't.
Speaker #4: But , you know , it kind of , you know , people probably feel . So that's the management answer , right ? Chad .
Speaker #4: Michael Black is the president . Chad is leading these these incredible group , right ? Of primarily engineers and , and material scientists , right to final investment decision that allows them to move into biorefining .
Speaker #4: We haven't gone stealth per se with bio . Liam , but there was a concerted effort for them to be independent , for them to have their own capital source , for them to ultimately go series B and IPO .
Speaker #4: So as you , you hear me talk about monetizing assets , you know , I don't I'm I'm happy to be supportive . I'm happy to be helpful .
Corrado De Gasperis: I'm happy to be supportive, I'm happy to be helpful, and I am intimate, you know, with what they're doing. Their success will be our success, right? We wanna put our calories into growing a literally international, dominant, you know, metal recycling business.
Corrado De Gasperis: I'm happy to be supportive, I'm happy to be helpful, and I am intimate, you know, with what they're doing. Their success will be our success, right? We wanna put our calories into growing a literally international, dominant, you know, metal recycling business.
Speaker #4: And I am intimate , you know , with what what they're doing , but their success will be our success , right ? We want to put our calories into growing a literally international dominant , you know , metal recycling business
Zach Spencer: Thank you, Corrado. Looking at our mining assets, what is the timing on the potential monetization of the mining assets? Would it be a JV deal or something different?
Zach Spencer: Thank you, Corrado. Looking at our mining assets, what is the timing on the potential monetization of the mining assets? Would it be a JV deal or something different?
Speaker #2: Thank you . Corrado . Looking at our mining assets , what is the timing on the potential monetization of the mining assets ? Would it be a JV deal or something different ?
Corrado De Gasperis: I think I'm hopeful that the timing is sooner. We are in pretty deep conversations, pretty specific around terms. We're only talking to people that have credible and immediate... Not immediate, but credible and almost immediate access to capital. Like, we're not talking about people who are blue-skying possibilities here. You know, the people that we're talking to have done quite a bit of diligence, like, I would say, a tremendous amount. You know, just from a legal, administrative, final processes, you're probably looking at 75 to 90 days. Is it guaranteed? Could something bust? For sure. We're feeling pretty good about it.
Corrado De Gasperis: I think I'm hopeful that the timing is sooner. We are in pretty deep conversations, pretty specific around terms. We're only talking to people that have credible and immediate... Not immediate, but credible and almost immediate access to capital. Like, we're not talking about people who are blue-skying possibilities here. You know, the people that we're talking to have done quite a bit of diligence, like, I would say, a tremendous amount. You know, just from a legal, administrative, final processes, you're probably looking at 75 to 90 days. Is it guaranteed? Could something bust? For sure. We're feeling pretty good about it.
Speaker #4: I think I'm hopeful . I'm hopeful that the timing is sooner . We are in pretty deep conversations . We are pretty specific around terms and we're only talking to people that have credible and immediate and not immediate , but credible and almost immediate access to capital .
Speaker #4: Like we're not , we're not talking about people who are blue skying possibilities here . So , you know , the people that we're talking to have done quite a bit of diligence , like I would say tremendous amount , but , you know , just from a legal , administrative final processes , you probably looking at 75 to 90 days Is it guaranteed because something bust for sure .
Speaker #4: But we’re feeling pretty good about it.
Zach Spencer: Thank you for that. Pivoting again, is there any intention for issuing additional shares in the near term, resulting in any more dilution?
Zach Spencer: Thank you for that. Pivoting again, is there any intention for issuing additional shares in the near term, resulting in any more dilution?
Speaker #2: Thank you for that, pivoting again. Is there any intention for issuing additional shares in the near term, resulting in any more dilution?
Corrado De Gasperis: No. I would like to repeat, though, what I had said earlier. You know, we had, you know, seven or eight years of excruciatingly poor access to the capital markets, you know, bad structures, bad efforts. Probably with hindsight, you know, using a junior mining penny stock structure to capitalize two high-growth innovative technologies was not the smartest thing in the world. At the same time, we did it, right? We created incredible opportunity. I think our investors that stuck with us and our new investors that came in are really gonna profit, you know, from that scenario.
Corrado De Gasperis: No. I would like to repeat, though, what I had said earlier. You know, we had, you know, seven or eight years of excruciatingly poor access to the capital markets, you know, bad structures, bad efforts. Probably with hindsight, you know, using a junior mining penny stock structure to capitalize two high-growth innovative technologies was not the smartest thing in the world. At the same time, we did it, right? We created incredible opportunity. I think our investors that stuck with us and our new investors that came in are really gonna profit, you know, from that scenario.
Speaker #4: No . I would like to repeat , though , what I had said earlier . You know , we had , you know , 7 or 8 years of excruciating Excruciatingly poor access to the capital markets .
Speaker #4: You know , bad structures , bad efforts , probably with hindsight , you know , using a junior mining penny stock structure to capitalize too high growth , innovative technologies was not the smartest thing in the world .
Speaker #4: But at the same time , we did it right . We created incredible opportunity . And I think our investors that stuck with us and our new investors that came in are really , really , really going to profit .
Corrado De Gasperis: If there's a perception that we enjoyed raising the capital that way or the dilution that resulted, and even more painfully, the low valuation that comes from having other than intermediate and longer-term capital partners, we hated it. Just in case anybody is curious, like, we hated it. We did get this business launched, you know, and we're running now. What's more important is we have capital partners. We have capitalized and funded. I think if we had no non-core assets, you know, the positive of that would be that we would be more fully dedicated to metals.
Speaker #4: You know , from that scenario , if there's a perception that we enjoyed raising the capital that way or the dilution that resulted , and even more painfully , the low valuation that comes from having other than intermediate and longer term capital partners .
Corrado De Gasperis: If there's a perception that we enjoyed raising the capital that way or the dilution that resulted, and even more painfully, the low valuation that comes from having other than intermediate and longer-term capital partners, we hated it. Just in case anybody is curious, like, we hated it. We did get this business launched, you know, and we're running now. What's more important is we have capital partners. We have capitalized and funded. I think if we had no non-core assets, you know, the positive of that would be that we would be more fully dedicated to metals.
Speaker #4: We hated it . So just in case anybody is curious , like we hated it , but but we did . We did get this business launched , you know , and we're running now .
Speaker #4: But what's more important is we have capital partners . We have capitalized and funded . And I think if we had no , you know , if we had no non-core assets , the positive of that would be that we would be more fully dedicated to metals .
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, the positive of having them is, as I said earlier, if we monetize those assets and redeploy them, you know, if we monetize those assets and redeploy them, then we, you know, we have a bonanza on our hands here. We are de-risked from distraction. We are de-risked from having to slow down. You know, we see some of our recycling competitors struggling to raise capital. We've seen some take capital from very bad sources and do a 180-degree turnaround on their strategy. You know. We're just gonna keep flying forward and we don't see any reason looking forward, right, that we would have to raise money. If something unknown happened, then we could talk about it, but, like, we don't see it.
Corrado De Gasperis: You know, the positive of having them is, as I said earlier, if we monetize those assets and redeploy them, you know, if we monetize those assets and redeploy them, then we, you know, we have a bonanza on our hands here. We are de-risked from distraction. We are de-risked from having to slow down. You know, we see some of our recycling competitors struggling to raise capital. We've seen some take capital from very bad sources and do a 180-degree turnaround on their strategy. You know. We're just gonna keep flying forward and we don't see any reason looking forward, right, that we would have to raise money. If something unknown happened, then we could talk about it, but, like, we don't see it.
Speaker #4: But but , you know , the positive of having them is , as I said earlier , if we monetize those assets and redeploy them , you know , if we monetize those assets and redeploy them , then we , you know , we have a bonanza on our hands here .
Speaker #4: We , we are de-risked from distraction . We are de-risked from having to slow down , you know , we see some of our recycling competitors struggling to raise capital .
Speaker #4: We've seen some take capital from very bad sources and , and do a 180 degree turnaround on their strategy . You know , so we're just going to keep forward and we don't we don't see any any .
Speaker #4: We have no— we don't see any reason, looking forward, right, that we would have to raise money, if something unknown happened.
Corrado De Gasperis: Unequivocal, no.
Corrado De Gasperis: Unequivocal, no.
Speaker #4: And we can talk about it, but, like, we don't see it. Unequivocal. No.
Zach Spencer: Thank you, Corrado. We're coming up on time, and I think we've covered several important questions. If we did not get to your question, please send it to ir@comstockinc.com, and we'll do our best to respond either directly, or we'll post the response on X. For anyone who is not following us on X, our main account is @comstockinc. Please follow us. Corrado, before we wrap up, please give us some final thoughts for the final week of Q1.
Zach Spencer: Thank you, Corrado. We're coming up on time, and I think we've covered several important questions. If we did not get to your question, please send it to ir@comstockinc.com, and we'll do our best to respond either directly, or we'll post the response on X. For anyone who is not following us on X, our main account is @comstockinc. Please follow us. Corrado, before we wrap up, please give us some final thoughts for the final week of Q1.
Speaker #2: Thank you . Corrado , we're coming up on time . And I think we've covered several important questions . If we did not get to your question , please send it to I r at Comstock Inc. dot com , and we'll do our best to respond either directly or we'll post the response on X for anyone who is not following us on X , our main account is at Comstock Inc. .
Speaker #2: Please follow us. Corrado, before we wrap up, please give us some final thoughts for the final week of Q1 and the rest of 2026.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah.
Zach Spencer: the rest of 2026.
Zach Spencer: the rest of 2026.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah. I'm super excited about our new, you know, board members. They've already, you know, reached out, wanting to, you know, start engaging and coming back out to visit. I'm super excited about, you know, the work leading up to the annual meeting, you know, in May. I think that if you can come to the meeting in person, we're gonna take a bus down to Silver Springs, you know. On the way to Silver Springs, we'll go through the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center, and you'll see about 10 million square feet under construction, you know, on the way to it.
Corrado De Gasperis: Yeah. I'm super excited about our new, you know, board members. They've already, you know, reached out, wanting to, you know, start engaging and coming back out to visit. I'm super excited about, you know, the work leading up to the annual meeting, you know, in May. I think that if you can come to the meeting in person, we're gonna take a bus down to Silver Springs, you know. On the way to Silver Springs, we'll go through the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center, and you'll see about 10 million square feet under construction, you know, on the way to it.
Speaker #4: Yeah , I'm , I'm super excited about our new , you know , board members . They've already , you know , reached out wanting to , you know , start engaging and coming back out to visit .
Speaker #4: I'm super excited about , you know , the work leading up to the annual meeting , you know , in May , I think that if you can come to the meeting in person , we're going to take a bus down to Silver Springs .
Speaker #4: You know , and on the way to Silver Springs , we'll we'll go through the Tahoe , Reno Industrial Center and you'll see about 10,000,000ft² under construction , you know , on the way , you know , to it , it's probably , it's probably relevant to point out that 600 Lake Avenue , you know , this incredibly ideal location for solar panel recycling and 800 Lake Avenue , the monstrous like storage facility right next door are our Sierra Springs properties .
Corrado De Gasperis: It's probably relevant to point out that 600 Lake Avenue, you know, this incredibly ideal location for solar panel recycling, and 800 Lake Avenue, the monstrous, like, storage facility right next door, are Sierra Springs properties. You know, Sierra Springs owning those properties allowed us to pivot very quickly into the solar recycling business. I think with hindsight, speed is the winner in all fronts here. Stay tuned for, you know, customer announcements. Stay tuned. We'll be more active next week, the week after, and the week after with pictures of the oven, the assemblies, the commissioning, and then panels starting to go through the machine. We're really at the inflection point here of 3.5, 4 years of incredibly hard work. Pretty exciting.
Corrado De Gasperis: It's probably relevant to point out that 600 Lake Avenue, you know, this incredibly ideal location for solar panel recycling, and 800 Lake Avenue, the monstrous, like, storage facility right next door, are Sierra Springs properties. You know, Sierra Springs owning those properties allowed us to pivot very quickly into the solar recycling business. I think with hindsight, speed is the winner in all fronts here. Stay tuned for, you know, customer announcements. Stay tuned. We'll be more active next week, the week after, and the week after with pictures of the oven, the assemblies, the commissioning, and then panels starting to go through the machine. We're really at the inflection point here of 3.5, 4 years of incredibly hard work. Pretty exciting.
Speaker #4: You know, you know, Sierra Springs owning those properties allowed us to pivot very, very quickly into the solar recycling business.
Speaker #4: And I think with hindsight , speed is speed is the winner in all fronts here . So and then stay tuned for , you know , customer announcements .
Speaker #4: Stay tuned. We're going to—we'll be more active next week, the week after, the week after that, and the week after, with pictures of the ovens.
Speaker #4: The assemblies , the commissioning , and panels starting to go through the machine . We're really at the inflection point here of three and a half , four years of incredibly hard work .
Zach Spencer: Thank you very much, Corrado. That concludes Comstock's year-end 2025 earnings call and business update. Thank you all for joining us.
Zach Spencer: Thank you very much, Corrado. That concludes Comstock's year-end 2025 earnings call and business update. Thank you all for joining us.
Speaker #4: So pretty exciting .
Corrado De Gasperis: Thank you all.
Corrado De Gasperis: Thank you all.
Operator 2: Goodbye.
Operator: Goodbye.