Speaker #1: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to PT Indosat TBK's 9-month 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Speaker #1: After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you need to press Star 1 and 1 on your telephone; you will then hear automatic messages advising your hand is raised.
Speaker #1: Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I will now lighten the conference over to your first speaker today, Pak Inder. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Desmond. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. With us on the call today we have Pak Vikram Sinha, our Chief Executive Officer.
Speaker #2: Pak Nikki Lee, our Chief Financial Officer. Pak Bilal Kazmi, our Chief Operating Officer. And Pak Apurva Mehrotra, Chief Growth Officer. I will now hand over the call to Pak Vikram for his opening remarks.
Speaker #2: Over to you, sir.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Indo. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm proud to report a continued strong performance in the 9 months of 2026, with both financial and operational numbers showing improvements.
Speaker #3: The key highlights are: number 1, our core business continued to deliver double-digit organic growth, and we are on track to meet our guidance. Number 2, our 5G investment is progressing where we are using data to drive a disciplined 5G investment to maximize revenue growth and return on investment.
Speaker #3: And number 3, the strong growth in core: we are investing into the coming of fully integrated AI player with full-stack capabilities to unlock growth across the whole AI ecosystem.
Speaker #3: If you look at the next slide, we are on track to deliver what we promised on the start of the year in line with our full-year guidance.
Speaker #3: Across revenue EBITDA and normalized net profit, we saw an increase of 11% year-on-year, 9% year-on-year, and 11% year-on-year respectively. For the 9 months of 2026, we also delivered USD 50 million on our Indosat AI Cloud revenue, as we continued to deliver on our aspiration of becoming an AI-native telco.
Speaker #3: If you go to the next slide, our strong core business gives us the financial capacity and operational foundation to invest in building an integrated AI ecosystem.
Speaker #3: The foundation is our connectivity backbone through Raya Grid, with 86,000 km of terrestrial and undersea cable. This is underpinning everything. Move up the stack: energy, Indonesia, rich resource, gives us a structural advantage in powering large-scale AI infrastructure sustainably and in a very cost-effective manner.
Speaker #3: Data center: we are partnering with BDF Indonesia and Next AI to develop the physical data center capacity needed to host AI workload. Compute: through Zancore, we are building significant AI compute capacity powered by Nvidia, targeting 1 gigawatt by 2029.
Speaker #3: This is the engine that will power AI model application at scale. Modules: we are hosting global AI models while also partnering with best local models such as Sahabat AI, ensuring we have access to both proprietary and open capabilities tailored to every need in the market.
Speaker #3: Application: at the top of the stack sits Intelligent Suite, which makes AI usable for every business. This is how we translate infrastructure into real commercial value for enterprise customers.
Speaker #3: In short, we are not just providing connectivity; we are systematically building an end-to-end AI ecosystem from energy and data center through compute model usable applications so that IOH can capture value across the entire AI value chain.
Speaker #3: If you look at the next slide, Indosat AI Cloud business is on track to deliver on our aspiration of 2026 full year. And it's set for scale in 2027 to deliver more than USD 3 million in recurring revenue.
Speaker #3: These are contracted revenues. This will be a big contribution to both top-line and growth of IOH in the coming year. From 2027, Zancore will further scale our ambition with 200 megawatt of capacity targeted to come online in first half of 2027, and will scale up to 1 gigawatt by 2029.
Speaker #3: We are seeing very strong demand for compute, both from regional global players and also we are seeing increase in demand for sovereign workload in Indonesia.
Speaker #3: We have secured funding for the first 100 megawatt of capacity and will be closing remaining funding in the coming weeks. Next slide, please. Indosat Intelligence Suite is how we are making AI usable and accessible for business across Indonesia and the region.
Speaker #3: While also opening a new high-margin revenue stream for IOH. At its core, Intelligent Suites brings together more than 300 AI models through our token platform.
Speaker #3: Customers get one secure connection, and the platform automatically selects the best-fit model for their needs, delivers results and tracks usage so costs stay under control.
Speaker #3: This is particularly important for regulated industry that need data governance and cost predictability. From the commercial perspective, we expect Intelligent Suite to start contributing revenue in 2027, with a targeted target of USD 100 million in revenue by 2021 at an attractive 70% EBITDA margin.
Speaker #3: This is a high-quality scalable opportunity that builds on our connectivity and infrastructure strength while creating secure enterprise revenue. As mentioned, we are on track to deliver on our full-year guidance, which is to grow revenue and EBITDA close to double-digit.
Speaker #3: And CapEx investment of around 23 trillion to reflect additional spending on CapEx to bring 5G to our customers this year. This excludes the spending we have guided for earlier on GPU CapEx spend.
Speaker #3: Finally, we want to reiterate IOH's unique position as an attractive investment proposition. Our core business, which remains our cash cow, is growing strongly. And And we are one of the fastest organically growing telco in ASEAN.
Speaker #3: Despite our investment in 5G and AI cloud this year, our balance sheet remains strong and cash flow generation remains healthy. We are also in the unique position where we are one of the only AI cloud companies tapping the immense growth opportunity in Southeast Asia.
Speaker #3: We are also supported by strong shareholders in Urdu Group and CKHSN. That ends my overview, and I'll now hand over to Nikki for more detailed financial presentation.
Speaker #2: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you, Pathakram. Delighted to report a solid set of results. For the 9-month period of 2026, our first 9-month revenue growth by 11.1% year-on-year will be 45.8 trillion.
Speaker #2: The primary driver was salary revenue, driven by improvement in output from 39,000 last year to 46,000 this year. The prime reason for this change has been our strategy to accelerate growth through AI and enhanced network experience.
Speaker #2: Revenue momentum was further complemented by our mid-year segment underpinned by GPU and fixed connectivity revenue. Below the revenue line, we delivered 8.8% year-on-year improvement in EBITDA to 11, sorry, 21.1 trillion.
Speaker #2: This growth was delivered despite our investment made to our business, including spectrum and GPU acquisitions, a handle revenue. As well as fiber coast spin-off that increased our costs in quarter 326.
Speaker #2: Consequently, our EBITDA margin contracted by 1 percentage point to 46%. As that normalized, NPT rose by 10.6% year-on-year. Meanage driven by a higher EBITDA party offset by higher DNA from investments in network experience, GPU, acceleration of customer contract, amortization, and also someone of project provisions.
Speaker #2: Our net debt to EBITDA ratio improved by 0.13x to 0.36x. Primarily driven by the receipt of 11.7 trillion in proceeds from the fiber coast monetization transaction significantly strengthening our balance sheet and improving our leverage position.
Speaker #2: If we move on to the next slide, focusing on our quarter-on-quarter results, revenue reduced by 2.2%, mainly due to salary revenue as a result of SIM consolidation post-implementation of biometric SIM registration.
Speaker #2: Output during the quarter remained stable despite a seasonally weaker quarter for customer spend, highlighting the resilience and quality of our subscriber base EBITDA reduced by 12.4%, mainly related to investments in spectrum, fiber coast spin-off, and several one-off coupled with softer salary revenue.
Speaker #2: I shall elaborate further on some of these items. As a result of these, EBITDA margin dropped by 5 percentage points to 42.7%. At the bottom line, normalized net profit declined by 1.2 trillion, primarily due to lower EBITDA by the co-finance lease charges.
Speaker #2: As well as recognition of ethics loss in connection with GPU acquisition financing. Let's take a look at the next slide. As highlighted earlier, several items weighed on our EBITDA and net debt.
Speaker #2: To provide a clearer view of the underlying performance of the business, it would be helpful to assess our results excluding the strategic actions, long-term investment-related costs, and one-off items.
Speaker #2: Our underlying 9-month 26 EBITDA was as seen, 21.6 trillion, increasing by 12% year-on-year if we were to adjust for additional spectrum cost, high opex from fiber coast, and also other one-off of around 2.230 billion IDRs.
Speaker #2: And these one-off items include timing of bonus reversal, and recognition of certain network credits. Our EBITDA margin would have been 47.2% or 0.2 percentage points higher than that of last year.
Speaker #2: In quarter 326, our underlying EBITDA is 7 trillion, down 5%, quarter-on-quarter. Mainly due to the revenue movement, as mentioned earlier. The 9-month underlying net debt is 4.5 trillion, higher by 1 trillion compared to last year, after adjusting for the items mentioned earlier.
Speaker #2: Similarly, for the third quarter, NPT underlying 1.6 trillion declined by 230 billion quarter-on-quarter, also mainly due to revenue changes. Let's move on to the next slide, focusing on our costs.
Speaker #2: For 9-month and third quarter, total cost of services and opex was higher by 13.2% year-on-year, and 7.1% quarter-on-quarter respectively. Driven mainly by cost of services, which rose 11% year-on-year and 6% quarter-on-quarter.
Speaker #2: This reflects strategic investment in spectrum 2.6 and 700 megahertz, fiber coast opex after our spin-off transaction, and one-off credit notes reversals. Personnel costs was another key contributor, increasing 42% year-on-year and 17% Q1Q, driven by timing of one-off bonus reversals, with a year-on-year increase further impacted by higher variable performance-based conversation during the current year.
Speaker #2: Marketing expenses up 8% year-on-year, in relation to higher activities to support revenue growth, including 5G campaigns. On a Q1Q basis, marketing expenses up by 16%, mainly to do with the timing of 5G campaigns and more in a more subdued level of activities in the second quarter.
Speaker #2: G&A reduced by 5% year-on-year and 9% Q1Q, underscoring our continual efforts to control spending in this area. Depreciation and amortization expenses up by 7%, while Y and 4% quarter-on-quarter, primarily due to network rollout including 5G, fiber lease, fiber coast finance lease charges, and also customer contract amortization acceleration.
Speaker #2: In terms of our operating income, on a net other operating income our net operating other operating income was 1.5 trillion compared to 378 billion the previous period.
Speaker #2: The increase was largely to do with one-off gain from fiber coast monetization. On a Q1Q basis, the delta also due to the benefits from the one-off gain arising from this monetization gain.
Speaker #2: Moving on to the next slide on to CAPEX. CAPEX increased significantly, while Y to 29 trillion underscoring our commitment to strategic CAPEX investment for medium to long-term growth.
Speaker #2: The significant increase was driven by an investment of 9.7 trillion in 5G CAPEX and 10.3 trillion of Indosat AI cloud spend. This meant that the spend in Q3 reached 19.5 trillion and increased of 265%.
Speaker #2: As a result of this, CAPEX spend CAPEX to revenue ratio increased to 63.4% in the month of 26, while for third quarter 26, we peaked at 128%.
Speaker #2: Let's take a look at our balance sheet. Importantly, we need to maintain we continue to maintain our strong balance sheet despite the additional CAPEX spending.
Speaker #2: Net debt contracted by 19.2%, while Y to 10.3 trillion, reflecting the proceeds of 11.7 trillion received from the fiber coast monetization transaction. The quarter-on-quarter increment by 273% was due to significant investment made in spectrum payment and also AI neo cloud investment.
Speaker #2: Following that, our net debt to EBITDA ratio improved by 0.13x to 0.36x while Y despite rising Q1Q by 0.26x compared to the last quarter.
Speaker #2: Thank you very much, and I will now hand over to Pavila for operating performance update.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Aniki. And good afternoon to everyone. An important milestone during Q3 was the launch of biometric registration. We fully support the governance initiative. We believe it is an important step towards building a healthier, more sustainable telecommunications market by improving customer quality and enhancing trust in the digital ecosystem.
Speaker #3: The next slide. As can be seen on the slide, biometric verification has materially reduced low-quality and duplicate SIM activation. Leading to a healthier underlying customer base.
Speaker #3: While this creates short-term subscriber pressure, it strengthens the economic of economics of the business over the medium and long term. We reiterate that biometric registration is not a headwind, but a positive structural reform.
Speaker #3: What is also visible on the slide is that our R2 grew 16.5% while on Y to IDR 46K, demonstrating that spending behavior of our core customers remains healthy.
Speaker #3: Also reflected in data traffic, which continues to grow, strongly up to 16%, again indicating robust underlying customer engagement. Home broadband continues to perform well, with customer growth of 21%, while on Y providing an additional growth vector beyond the mobile business.
Speaker #3: The combination of a higher quality mobile-based, stronger output trends, and continued HPV growth gives us confidence in revenue acceleration as biometric impact normalizes. I will now pass on to my colleague, Parka Purva.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Thank you, Pavila. Leveraging on our AI capabilities, our network team has done a phenomenal job of rolling out 5G sites in a speedy manner.
Speaker #4: As of date, our 5G network is live in 75 cities with almost 9,500 sites. Covering 22% of the population. This enables us to attract high-value customers and drive significant R2 increase in coming quarters.
Speaker #4: Next slide. One of the most prominent use cases for 5G is home broadband. Our 5G network provides fiber-like network speeds in 75 cities, and coupled with an attractive consumer proposition, enables us to tap large number of households in fiber dark areas which are not connected to home broadband, as well as those who are looking for a premium home experience powered by Indosat 5G network.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you for giving move to the Q&A. Desmond, can we have the first question in the queue, please?
Speaker #5: Certainly. As a reminder, to ask questions, please press star 101 and wait for our name to be announced. Our first question comes from the line of Ranjan Sharma, of JP Morgan.
Speaker #5: Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Thanks. Hi, good afternoon, and thank you for the presentation and the opportunity. Three questions from my side, please. Firstly, if I look at specifically your wireless revenues, they seem to be down 4% quarter on quarter.
Speaker #6: If f you can help elaborate, what happened there? Because our understanding was that they were adjustments happening on the pricing side. And if it's related mainly to the biometric registration, if you can also help understand how the trends have been in September and October.
Speaker #6: The second question is on your presentation of underlying EBITDA margin. On slide 15, you seem to deduct the spectrum and fiber core cost. But our understanding of these will be recurring costs for the business.
Speaker #6: So is it not fair to understand that the underlying margin should include these cost items as well? And the third question is that on the procurement side, the payables have seen a big jump.
Speaker #6: Can you help us understand what's driving that? If the number has gone from 9.8 trillion to 20.46 trillion, thank you.
Speaker #3: Yeah.
Speaker #4: Thank you for your question, Ranjan. My name is Apur. Let me take the first question on wireless revenue. As mentioned by Parniki, this is seasonally a weak quarter.
Speaker #4: And the impact was exacerbated by the reduction in customer intake owing to the biometric KYC regime change. To your second part, we are continuing to look at opportunities to improve monetization.
Speaker #4: And we've seen a significant amount of price stability. And in terms of trends that we are seeing in September and October, we are cycling out of the impact of low customer acquisitions from July to August.
Speaker #4: And we should be able to see coming back to normal in the coming months.
Speaker #2: Ranjan, thank you for your question. For the second one, the because for we have these transactions spectrum allocation and also fiber core formation in the third quarter, the impact of these companies in the third quarter.
Speaker #2: So it will generate an impact on our number. So as you probably are aware, slide 15 is not one that we typically present because we don't want to show too many versions of EBITDA net profit.
Speaker #2: But because of the impact, we want from these transactions, we want to explain to people why the numbers would move from on a quarter on quarter or on a year-on-year basis.
Speaker #2: This is not to suggest that the impact will not continue. Of course, after we change the structure of our business, forming fiber core, we will have to make payments towards IFP and also spectrum after we get additional spectrum this will be a continuing obligation for us to pay the annual fee every year.
Speaker #2: Now, that said, the spectrum fees in particular are investment made for the medium and long term. So in the short term, this will hit us at in the longer term, we believe that we will be able to make use of it to generate higher revenue.
Speaker #6: Thank you. I think you want to take this?
Speaker #2: Yes, yes. In terms of procurement payable, it's just timing of payment as we committed to increase our investment into 5G. So the payable amount has gone up.
Speaker #6: Okay. Got it. Thank you. I'll go back in the queue.
Speaker #5: One moment file. The next question. Our next question comes from Sachin Bank of DBS Bank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hi, hi. Thank you for the opportunity. Two questions. Firstly, on the core business, should not when the subscribers decline a little bit due to, I think you mentioned, due to biometric, should not the R2 rise a bit mathematically?
Speaker #6: Or actually, just trying to understand or is it just purely seasonal weakness? And we did see if you can confirm some price rise or price hike in September.
Speaker #6: If you can quantify the magnitude of that. That's question number one. And number two, there's a bit of a stress in the market on AI.
Speaker #6: While the GPU rental price seems to be rising, the AI token revenue is not rising in tandem. Which actually is the end revenue secured, right, by which is paid by the customers, right?
Speaker #6: So what is your opinion on that? And if you can give your opinion on what do you think of this current AI cycle? Where are certain areas of caution?
Speaker #6: And what is your view of this whole disconnect between the AI token and the revenue and the GPU rental volume? Thank you.
Speaker #4: So hi, Sachin. Let me take the first question. While this is a seasonally weak quarter, we have held R2 at the same level as the previous quarter.
Speaker #4: So what is essentially means is that the revenue drop and the customer base softness has negated itself. On your second part, in terms of monetization, we are continuing to, like I mentioned earlier, we are continuing to look at opportunities for monetization.
Speaker #4: And early trends indicate that it will continue to help us improve R2's and realizations.
Speaker #6: Hi, Sachin. This is Vikram. To your point on GPU rental price going up, you are absolutely right. There are credible independent reports that from the GPU prices are going up anywhere between 20 to 40 percent.
Speaker #6: Even the first generation A100, L450, H100, all prices have gone up by 30 percent minimum. So this is one part. Second, I think you are absolutely right.
Speaker #6: In terms of not being able to see the token revenue versus GPU revenue. So in our case, if you look at our GPU revenue, you have seen in terms of our Neo Cloud.
Speaker #6: We will be closing this year, close to 100 million dollar. And this is what we had guided. And these are long-term contracts. So that we don't change the price when the prices go up.
Speaker #6: That was the call for action for us to launch our intelligence suit. So just to give you one data point, when you sell GPU as a service, you sell it on a long-term at $6, $7 per hour.
Speaker #6: But when you are selling token, if you have the ability to generate token and sell token, you sell it. If I put the same parallel of per hour, you can earn up to 15 dollar to 20 dollar.
Speaker #6: And if you are able to convert that into application, enterprise buys output. It goes as 30 dollar. So that is why we have launched our in the sat intelligence suit.
Speaker #6: And we are in the process of putting it up. This will be powered by some of the GB300, which will be going live next year.
Speaker #6: And you will see revenue and high margin revenue flowing for Indosat and that is how we have been able to give directionally while we will have revenue next year on this platform.
Speaker #6: But by 2028, we are targeting to get to a 100 million dollar of run rate business with 70 percent EBITDA margin. So it's just a timing thing one.
Speaker #6: Second, if you are only operating as a GPU as a service, then if you are on short-term contract, you can get the benefit of price up.
Speaker #6: But if you are locked on long-term contract, then ups and downs doesn't show up on your revenue. These are committed revenue. So the last learning which we have is when we are looking at Indosat, we are very focused on making sure that we do significant investment on getting our intelligence suit up.
Speaker #6: And that is why we are partnering with some of the best. We are building capability. We will start seeing revenue with very healthy margins starting next year.
Speaker #6: Yeah, Vikram, thank you. Just to understand, when you say 15 to 20 dollars per hour, when you use AI tokens, there should be some revenue sharing given to the model player, right?
Speaker #6: And that is a question which is raising question. I mean, this is for the because that model layer seems to be not really making money at all.
Speaker #6: I'm just trying to get your view around here, right? I mean, is that sustainable? And what is revenue sharing, yeah? The good news is I think there are different models who are the user of token.
Speaker #6: One, the model builder also buy token so when you sell it back to them, relatively you get very less margin. But when you start selling it to enterprise, when we launched our token platform, we had signed up enterprise customers, banks.
Speaker #6: So it's our ability to sell it to enterprise versus only selling it to model builders so the mix of customer the ability to sell directly to enterprise customer will be very important.
Speaker #6: If we have to move up the margin and value chain. Okay, okay. So are you saying there is no revenue sharing on the token revenue or if 100 percent coming to Indosat or some portion of that goes to the model provider?
Speaker #6: Who's providing the LLM model, right? So let me give you a example. We will be in a very unique position where we will be hosting model at Indosat or Zancor infrastructure where we'll be generating tokens from that model and what we'll be selling is token.
Speaker #6: Who do we sell back token? We sell back token to model builder, to enterprise. So model builder, when you sell it back, you get relatively lower margin.
Speaker #6: But when you sell it to enterprise, you get the rate card is $15 today. It is a public information. So that is where what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker #6: What we have said at Indosat level, we will have an asset light model where we will make sure that we will be only booking margin.
Speaker #6: After deducting all the infra cost. We will not be booking the top line. We will be only looking at margin. And that is where our EBITDA margin is very high.
Speaker #6: So it looks like you will be you probably have downloaded or hosting a open source model, right? So there's not much revenue sharing that you have to pay out of that, right?
Speaker #6: So almost all of that comes to Indosat, right? Because it's a open source model, right? Can I say that? We are very uniquely placed.
Speaker #6: We are not just the marketplace where I am a reseller. I'm also hosting model in my AI compute infrastructure which is Zancor. And then we will be generating model.
Speaker #6: I think this is our unique advantage. There are not many who have the access to compute to generate token. Yes, we will also be reselling.
Speaker #6: We will not be hosting all because customer need output. They don't want to look at whether it is open source, closed source. So there are different models for different use.
Speaker #6: So we have developed a platform which will help our customer identify which is the best model needed for them. Where it is our own generated model, token, we will have higher margin.
Speaker #6: Where it is we are hosting model global models. So we are hosting more than 300 models. For help our customer to give them what is best for them.
Speaker #6: So it is quite detailed. We'll be happy to host you sometime and explain you more in detail. So thank you very much, Vikram. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Reminder to ask questions, please press star one and one and wait for a name to be announced. Oh, next questions comes from PU Chowdhury of HSBC.
Speaker #2: Your line is open.
Speaker #5: Yeah, hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for the opportunity. A couple of questions. Firstly, on the cost side, within the cost of services you disclose maintenance cost, which is up almost 40 percent quarter on quarter to 1.2 trillion.
Speaker #5: Can I understand what has led to that and is there any one-off or what's the outlook for this segment? That is first. Secondly, on your slide, 15, where you have given that breakup between underlying and reported kind of margin profile, as Nikhil earlier mentioned, fiber co and spectrum cost, those are obviously continuously.
Speaker #5: But the operational one-off item, of 191 billion, which you have flagged in this quarter, is this one-off or this is going to continue also?
Speaker #5: And the third question on Zancore, where you have this target of AI compute capacity of 200 megawatt. May I check how much Indosat is committing to take up of this compute capacity?
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #6: Hi, Piyush. Let me start with Zancore. So Indosat is looking at around 15 megawatt today what we have is GB 300. And then this will be using it for our token platform.
Speaker #6: We have already got a lot of customers signing up for this when we launched our platform. So that is giving us confidence and that is how we have given this 2028 ambition target of getting to 100 million dollar of record revenue with 70 percent EBITDA margin.
Speaker #6: Hi, Piyush. Thank you for your question. Nikhil here. On your first question on the cost side, the maintenance cost delta is triggered by the fiber coal formation.
Speaker #6: So the additional and the operational one-offs there are many items there. We are just wanting to show you the overall impact from those items.
Speaker #6: So these may or may not continue on a going forward basis.
Speaker #5: Is there a way to. Like out of this operational one-off, because at the pat level you are saying operational one-off impact is 450 billion.
Speaker #5: Oh, sorry, 540 billion. Like how much of that is one-off in this quarter?
Speaker #6: Yeah. For example, employee bonus. Right? We made a significant reversal in the second quarter. So depending on how our performance goes, we may increase that or we may reverse the bonus provision further.
Speaker #6: But given the scale of the adjustment, we feel it would be helpful to show the movement on an aggregate basis for your consumption.
Speaker #5: Got it, Nikhil. Got it. And Vikram, on Zancore, so Indosat is taking up that 15 megawatt capacity starting 2027. Or that is kind of later.
Speaker #6: Yep. Starting April 2027, Piyush, this is where our cluster at Zancore will start being up for ready for services. So the token platform will be up starting this month.
Speaker #6: We will start getting some margin from our token marketplace, but these are all 10 percent kind of a margin. But the moment our infrastructure compute is ready, when we are able to generate token from some of the very high demand open source model, where we have already signed up for customer, where they'll be buying token from us, and these are all enterprise customers and also some of the model builders.
Speaker #5: Got it. And from a data center capacity that has all been kind of prepared, BDX is the one which is supporting you throughout, or there are other providers?
Speaker #6: So there are two data center next AI and BDX. Everything is on track in terms of cluster going ready for services. So we are trending on time for our execution.
Speaker #5: Okay. Thanks a lot.
Speaker #2: That's a reminder if you'd like to ask questions, you can press star one and one and wait for a name to be announced. Once again, to ask questions, you can press star one and one and wait for a name to be announced.
Speaker #2: At this time, there appears to be no further questions from the line. Allow me to end the call back to management. Please continue.
Speaker #4: Yeah, there's a license wait for another one day. See if we get anything. Otherwise, we can close the call as we still have some time.
Speaker #4: I think we have a follow-up from Piyush.
Speaker #2: The line is now open. Piyush, please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Yeah, hi. Thank you. Just one on the core business on the mobile side. We know like 3Q is seasonally weak, but if you can share any trends in October, like are you seeing the data usage kind of picking up, the trends improving?
Speaker #6: For Piyush, this is Vikram. I think you heard Apurva and also you heard Bilal. I think Q3 had the whole biometric for full quarter.
Speaker #6: It led to short-term contraction on gross ad for the entire industry, but this is good overall. And we are seeing this starting September, October.
Speaker #6: So again, in terms of the trends, the trends are looking very positive. We are confident of making sure that our core cellular revenue grows to close to double digit and we are seeing that trend.
Speaker #6: In the last few weeks, if that answers your question.
Speaker #5: Got it. Thank you, Vikram.
Speaker #2: Once again, if you'd like to ask questions, you can press star one one. There are no more questions at this time. Please continue.
Speaker #4: Okay. I think we will end the call today as we don't have any more questions in the Q&A queue. Thank you very much, everyone, for joining us.
