Q2 2019 Earnings Call
Brad Jacobs: Welcome to the XPO Logistics Q2 2019 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. My name is Rob, and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we'll conduct a question-and-answer session. If you have a question, please dial star one on your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded. Before the call begins, let me read a brief statement on behalf of the company regarding forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. During this call, the company will be making certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws, which by their nature involve a number of risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements.
Operator: Welcome to the XPO Logistics Q2 2019 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. My name is Rob, and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we'll conduct a question-and-answer session. If you have a question, please dial star one on your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded. Before the call begins, let me read a brief statement on behalf of the company regarding forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. During this call, the company will be making certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws, which by their nature involve a number of risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements.
At this time, all participants are in listen only mode.
Later, well conduct a question answer session.
If you have a question. Please dial star one on your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded.
Before the call begins let me read a brief statement on behalf of the company regarding forward looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures.
During this call the company only making certain forward looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws, which by their nature involve a number of risks uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements.
Brad Jacobs: A discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's SEC filings. The forward-looking statements in the company's earnings release made on this call are made only as of today, and the company has no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements except to the extent required by law. During this call, the company may also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined under applicable SEC rules. Reconciliations of such non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are contained in the company's earnings release and related financial tables. You can find a copy of the company's earnings release, which contains additional important information regarding forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures, in the investor section on the company's website. I will now turn the call over to Brad Jacobs. Mr. Jacobs, you may begin.
Operator: A discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's SEC filings. The forward-looking statements in the company's earnings release made on this call are made only as of today, and the company has no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements except to the extent required by law. During this call, the company may also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined under applicable SEC rules. Reconciliations of such non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are contained in the company's earnings release and related financial tables. You can find a copy of the company's earnings release, which contains additional important information regarding forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures, in the investor section on the company's website. I will now turn the call over to Brad Jacobs. Mr. Jacobs, you may begin.
A discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's SEC filings.
The forward looking statements in the company's earnings release or made on this call are made only as of today and the company has no obligation to update any of these forward looking statements except to the extent required by law.
During this call. The company May also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined under applicable SEC rules.
Reconciliations of such non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are contained in the company's earnings release and related financial tables.
You can find a copy of the company's earnings release, which contains additional important information regarding forward looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures in the Investor section on the company's website.
I will now turn the call over to Brad Jacobs Mr. Jacobs you may begin.
Thanks, Rob and good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining our second quarter earnings call.
[Company Representative] (XPO): Thanks, Rob. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining our Q2 earnings call. With me today in Greenwich are Matt Fassler, our Chief Strategy Officer, and Tobio Hedley, our Senior Director of Investor Relations. As you saw from the press release, we beat on our key financial metrics of EBITDA, EPS, and free cash flow despite lower-than-expected revenue. We also achieved a record high EBITDA margin of 10.7%. We delivered $455 million of adjusted EBITDA in the quarter, up from $437 million a year ago. We reported $1.19 of GAAP-diluted EPS, up 16% year-over-year. On an adjusted basis, EPS was up 31%, add $1.28. Free cash flow was stronger than expected at $246 million. That's 27% higher than a year ago. Turning to some highlights by business unit. In LTL, our yield growth, excluding fuel, was 3.9%, an acceleration from 3.0% in Q1.
Brad Jacobs: Thanks, Rob. Good morning, everybody. Thanks for joining our Q2 earnings call. With me today in Greenwich are Matt Fassler, our Chief Strategy Officer, and Tobio Hedley, our Senior Director of Investor Relations. As you saw from the press release, we beat on our key financial metrics of EBITDA, EPS, and free cash flow despite lower-than-expected revenue. We also achieved a record high EBITDA margin of 10.7%. We delivered $455 million of adjusted EBITDA in the quarter, up from $437 million a year ago. We reported $1.19 of GAAP-diluted EPS, up 16% year-over-year. On an adjusted basis, EPS was up 31%, add $1.28. Free cash flow was stronger than expected at $246 million. That's 27% higher than a year ago. Turning to some highlights by business unit. In LTL, our yield growth, excluding fuel, was 3.9%, an acceleration from 3.0% in Q1.
With me today in Greenwich, or Matt Fassler, our Chief strategy Officer, and job Headley, our senior director of Investor Relations.
As you saw from the press release, we beat on our key financial metrics of EBITDA, EPS and free cash flow despite lower than expected revenue.
We also achieved a record high EBITDA margin of 10.7%.
We delivered $455 million of adjusted EBITDA in the quarter up from $437 million a year ago.
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On an adjusted basis EPS was up 31%.
At $1.28.
Free cash flow was stronger than expected at $246 million, that's 27% higher than a year ago.
Turning to some highlights by business unit.
In LTL, our yield growth, excluding fuel was 3.9% and acceleration from 3.0% in the first quarter.
[Company Representative] (XPO): We continued to improve our LTL adjusted operating ratio, this time by 400 basis points to 80.3%. In logistics, we generated organic revenue growth of 4.8%, which is about three times the average GDP of the countries where we operate. This is after the downsizing of our largest customer. In North American Freight Brokerage, we improved net revenue margin by 360 basis points to 20.4%, up from 16.8% last year. In managed transportation, revenue was up 24.6% in the quarter as customers moved to the XPO Connect platform. While managed transportation is still a small component of our revenue, still, this is a very positive trajectory. In the UK, we signed the largest contract in the history of our European transportation business. This is a multi-year dedicated transportation agreement with British Gypsum for £55 million a year.
Brad Jacobs: We continued to improve our LTL adjusted operating ratio, this time by 400 basis points to 80.3%. In logistics, we generated organic revenue growth of 4.8%, which is about three times the average GDP of the countries where we operate. This is after the downsizing of our largest customer. In North American Freight Brokerage, we improved net revenue margin by 360 basis points to 20.4%, up from 16.8% last year. In managed transportation, revenue was up 24.6% in the quarter as customers moved to the XPO Connect platform. While managed transportation is still a small component of our revenue, still, this is a very positive trajectory. In the UK, we signed the largest contract in the history of our European transportation business. This is a multi-year dedicated transportation agreement with British Gypsum for £55 million a year.
Yeah, we continue to improve our LTL adjusted operating ratio this time by 400 basis points to 80.3%.
In logistics, we generated organic revenue growth of 4.8%, which is about three times. The average GDP of the countries, where we operate and this is after the downsizing of our largest customer.
In North American freight brokerage, we improved net revenue margin by 360 basis points to 20.4%.
Up from 16.8% last year.
In managed transportation revenue was up 24.6% in the quarter as customers move to the Exzeo connect platform.
Well managed transportation is still a small component of our revenue.
Still this is very positive trajectory.
In the UK, we signed the largest contract in the history of our European Transportation business.
This is a multiyear dedicated transportation agreement with British gypsum for 55 million pounds a year.
We're partnering with British gypsum to transform their UK supply chain into a single digitally managed transportation network.
[Company Representative] (XPO): We're partnering with British Gypsum to transform their UK supply chain into a single digitally managed transportation network. Yesterday, we updated our 2019 guidance. We now expect organic revenue growth for the year to be between 2.5% and 4.5%, and total revenue growth to be between minus 1% and plus 1%. The update primarily reflects the impact we expect from lower truck load rates and FX in the back half of the year. We also raised the lower end of our EBITDA range by $25 million. Our new target for adjusted EBITDA is $1.675 billion to $1.725 billion, up 7% to 10% year-over-year. In addition, we raised our target range for 2019 free cash flow by $50 million. Our new range is $575 million to $675 million.
Brad Jacobs: We're partnering with British Gypsum to transform their UK supply chain into a single digitally managed transportation network. Yesterday, we updated our 2019 guidance. We now expect organic revenue growth for the year to be between 2.5% and 4.5%, and total revenue growth to be between minus 1% and plus 1%. The update primarily reflects the impact we expect from lower truck load rates and FX in the back half of the year. We also raised the lower end of our EBITDA range by $25 million. Our new target for adjusted EBITDA is $1.675 billion to $1.725 billion, up 7% to 10% year-over-year. In addition, we raised our target range for 2019 free cash flow by $50 million. Our new range is $575 million to $675 million.
Yesterday, we updated our 2019 guidance.
We now expect organic revenue growth for the year to be between two and a half and 4.5% and total revenue growth to be between minus 1% and plus 1%.
The update primarily reflects the impact we expect lower truckload rates and FX in the back half of the year.
We also raised the lower end of our EBITDA range by $25 million.
Our new target for adjusted EBITDA is 1.675 billion to $1.725 billion up 7% to 10% year over year.
In addition, we raised our target range for 2019 free cash flow by $50 million.
Our new range is $575 million to $675 million.
[Company Representative] (XPO): We expect to hold our net CapEx at around the low end of our range of $400 to $450 million. Cash taxes are expected to be more favorable than we had previously anticipated. Our tech initiatives had a hand in every significant gain we realized in Q2. This includes our record LTL operating ratio and our substantial improvement in both LTL yield and brokerage net revenue margin. Matt will go into our growth initiatives in more detail, including our technology roadmap. Let me highlight two of them now. One is XPO Smart Workforce Planning. We recently piloted this technology in 18 LTL sites with positive results in motor moves per dock hour, and we plan to roll it out to all of our 290 LTL service centers by the end of the year.
Brad Jacobs: We expect to hold our net CapEx at around the low end of our range of $400 to $450 million. Cash taxes are expected to be more favorable than we had previously anticipated. Our tech initiatives had a hand in every significant gain we realized in Q2. This includes our record LTL operating ratio and our substantial improvement in both LTL yield and brokerage net revenue margin. Matt will go into our growth initiatives in more detail, including our technology roadmap. Let me highlight two of them now. One is XPO Smart Workforce Planning. We recently piloted this technology in 18 LTL sites with positive results in motor moves per dock hour, and we plan to roll it out to all of our 290 LTL service centers by the end of the year.
We expect to hold our net capex at around the low end of our range of $400 million to $450 million in cash taxes are expected to be more favorable than we had previously anticipated.
Our check initiatives had a hand in every significant gain we realized in the second quarter.
This includes our record LTL operating ratio and our substantial improvement in both LTL yield and brokerage net revenue margin.
Matt will go into our growth initiatives in more detail, including our technology roadmap, but let me highlight two of them now.
One is expo smart workforce planning.
We recently piloted this technology 18, LTL sites with positive results in motor moves per Doc hour.
And we plan to roll it out to all of our 290 LTL service centers by the end of the year.
We're also enhancing productivity by applying machine learning.
[Company Representative] (XPO): We're also enhancing productivity by applying machine learning for dynamic pricing, route optimization of pickup and delivery, line haul efficiency, and yard management. These work streams are the next leg of significant profit improvement in our LTL operations. In sum, we're pleased with the quarter. We're executing well on controlling costs and expanding margins. We're right on track to deliver full-year adjusted EBITDA growth of 7% to 10%. We're confident that our free cash flow will be in the higher range we guided to yesterday. With that, I'll ask Matt to review the quarter in more detail.
Brad Jacobs: We're also enhancing productivity by applying machine learning for dynamic pricing, route optimization of pickup and delivery, line haul efficiency, and yard management. These work streams are the next leg of significant profit improvement in our LTL operations. In sum, we're pleased with the quarter. We're executing well on controlling costs and expanding margins. We're right on track to deliver full-year adjusted EBITDA growth of 7% to 10%. We're confident that our free cash flow will be in the higher range we guided to yesterday. With that, I'll ask Matt to review the quarter in more detail.
For dynamic pricing route optimization to pick up and delivery line haul efficiency and yard management.
These work streams are the next leg of significant profit improvement in our LTL operations.
In summary, we're pleased with the quarter, we're executing well on controlling costs and expanding margins. We're right on track to deliver full year adjusted EBITDA growth of 7% to 10%.
And we're confident that our free cash flow will be in a higher range you guided to yesterday.
With that I'll ask Matt to review the quarter in more detail.
Matt Fassler: Thanks, Brad. As we review the numbers, I want to highlight an important theme. We're managing costs and capital with discipline while continuing to invest in strategic technology. This is improving margins, improving free cash flow, and gaining a share in key lines of business. I'd like to walk you through the Q2 numbers and our strategic focus by business unit. I'll start with our transportation segment. Beginning with North American LTL, our primary focus in terms of maximizing profitability is yield. As Brad mentioned, yield growth accelerated from 3.0% in Q1 to 3.9% in Q2. Price increases on contract renewals accelerated sequentially to 5.2% from 3.7% in Q1. Tonnage declined by 2% year-over-year. This was consistent with Q1. Our operating ratio improvement in Q2 reflected our improvement in yield as well as tight cost control.
Matt Fassler: Thanks, Brad. As we review the numbers, I want to highlight an important theme. We're managing costs and capital with discipline while continuing to invest in strategic technology. This is improving margins, improving free cash flow, and gaining a share in key lines of business. I'd like to walk you through the Q2 numbers and our strategic focus by business unit. I'll start with our transportation segment. Beginning with North American LTL, our primary focus in terms of maximizing profitability is yield. As Brad mentioned, yield growth accelerated from 3.0% in Q1 to 3.9% in Q2. Price increases on contract renewals accelerated sequentially to 5.2% from 3.7% in Q1. Tonnage declined by 2% year-over-year. This was consistent with Q1. Our operating ratio improvement in Q2 reflected our improvement in yield as well as tight cost control.
Thanks, Brad as we review the numbers I want to highlight an important theme, we're managing costs and capital with discipline, while continuing to invest in strategic technology.
This is improving margins improving free cash flow and gaining a share in key lines of business I'd like to walk you through the second quarter numbers and our strategic focus by business unit I'll start with our transportation segment.
Beginning with North American LTL, our primary focus in terms of maximizing profitability is yield.
As Brad mentioned yield growth accelerated from 3.0% in Q1 to 3.9% in Q2.
Price increases on contract renewals accelerated sequentially to 5.2% from 3.7% in the previous quarter tonnage declined by 2% year over year.
This was consistent with the prior quarter.
Our operating ratio improvement in the second quarter reflected our improvement in yield as well as tight cost control.
Matt Fassler: In freight brokerage, our top line declined by 14% as we lapped another tough comparison, a 27% revenue increase in Q2 of last year, and absorbed the reduction in spend by our largest customer. Our net revenue in freight brokerage held steady year-over-year, and our net revenue margin rose sharply for the second consecutive quarter. In truck brokerage, we sourced capacity about 5% below market in the quarter as compared to the DAT benchmark. This relates in part to the deployment of pricing tools in our XPO Connect digital freight marketplace. Also in truck brokerage, we had a year-on-year decline in loads in the mid-single digits, which was an improvement from Q1. Excluding our largest customer, we generated truck brokerage load growth in the mid-teens in Q2, up from mid to high single digits in Q1.
Matt Fassler: In freight brokerage, our top line declined by 14% as we lapped another tough comparison, a 27% revenue increase in Q2 of last year, and absorbed the reduction in spend by our largest customer. Our net revenue in freight brokerage held steady year-over-year, and our net revenue margin rose sharply for the second consecutive quarter. In truck brokerage, we sourced capacity about 5% below market in the quarter as compared to the DAT benchmark. This relates in part to the deployment of pricing tools in our XPO Connect digital freight marketplace. Also in truck brokerage, we had a year-on-year decline in loads in the mid-single digits, which was an improvement from Q1. Excluding our largest customer, we generated truck brokerage load growth in the mid-teens in Q2, up from mid to high single digits in Q1.
In freight brokerage our topline declined by 14% as we lapped another tough comparison, a 27% revenue increase in Q2 of last year and absorb the reduction in spend by our largest customer.
But our net revenue in freight brokerage held steady year over year, and our net revenue margin rose sharply for the second consecutive quarter.
In truck brokerage, we source capacity about 5% below market in the quarter as compared to the D.A.T. benchmark. This relates in part to the deployment of pricing tools in our Xps <unk> connect digital marketplace also in truck brokerage, we had a year on year decline in low is in the mid single digits, which was an improvement from Q1, excluding our largest customer we generated truck brokerage load growth in the mid teens in Q2 up from mid to high single digits in Q1.
Matt Fassler: We're taking share by deploying our brokerage technology suite to deliver high levels of service while capitalizing on opportunities to drive margin. Turning to our last-mile operation. As we expected, revenue declined 21% year-over-year as we wound down our postal injection business in Q1. Last-mile revenue excluding postal injection tracked flattish, mirroring trends in retail sales of big-ticket durables. Net revenue margin increased to the highest level we've delivered since entering this business in 2013, largely due to mix. We achieved solid new business wins in last-mile in Q2, second only to the record we set last quarter. Given our recent new business wins, we expect underlying last-mile revenue growth in the second half of this year. As we mentioned earlier, managed transportation posted strong sales growth in Q2. We're a top five global provider of managed transportation based on value of freight under management.
Matt Fassler: We're taking share by deploying our brokerage technology suite to deliver high levels of service while capitalizing on opportunities to drive margin. Turning to our last-mile operation. As we expected, revenue declined 21% year-over-year as we wound down our postal injection business in Q1. Last-mile revenue excluding postal injection tracked flattish, mirroring trends in retail sales of big-ticket durables. Net revenue margin increased to the highest level we've delivered since entering this business in 2013, largely due to mix. We achieved solid new business wins in last-mile in Q2, second only to the record we set last quarter. Given our recent new business wins, we expect underlying last-mile revenue growth in the second half of this year. As we mentioned earlier, managed transportation posted strong sales growth in Q2. We're a top five global provider of managed transportation based on value of freight under management.
We're taking share by deploying our brokerage technology suite to deliver high levels of service, while capitalizing on opportunities to drive margin.
Turning to our last mile operation as we expected revenue declined 21% year over year as we wound down our postal injection business in Q1.
Last mile revenue, excluding personal injection tracked flattish mirroring trends in retail sales of big ticket durables.
Net revenue margin increased to the highest level, we have delivered since entering this business in 2013, largely due to mix.
We achieved solid new business wins and last mile in Q2 second only to the record we set last quarter.
Given our recent new business wins, we expect underlying last mile revenue growth in the second half of this year.
As we mentioned earlier managed transportation posted strong sales growth in Q2.
We're a top five global provider of managed transportation based on value of freight under management. Our global network uses of control tower approach through Expo can that that provides customers with highly efficient customized solutions for transportation procurement asset utilization and freight management.
Matt Fassler: Our global network uses a control tower approach through XPO Connect that provides customers with highly efficient, customized solutions for transportation procurement, asset utilization, and freight management. Our European transportation business had a revenue decline of 2.8% in the quarter. FX translation constrained this number by about 6 percentage points. We're continuing to grow and gain share in the UK and Spain. France remains our slowest growth market in Europe. Our managed transportation business in Europe is putting up strong numbers, up mid-teens year-over-year. Looking across our transportation segment overall, adjusted EBITDA rose 8%, and adjusted EBITDA margin rose by 160 basis points, reflecting better profitability in freight brokerage and LTL. FX constrained this number by about $3 million or 1 percentage point. Turning to the logistics segment, revenue rose 1% globally.
Matt Fassler: Our global network uses a control tower approach through XPO Connect that provides customers with highly efficient, customized solutions for transportation procurement, asset utilization, and freight management. Our European transportation business had a revenue decline of 2.8% in the quarter. FX translation constrained this number by about 6 percentage points. We're continuing to grow and gain share in the UK and Spain. France remains our slowest growth market in Europe. Our managed transportation business in Europe is putting up strong numbers, up mid-teens year-over-year. Looking across our transportation segment overall, adjusted EBITDA rose 8%, and adjusted EBITDA margin rose by 160 basis points, reflecting better profitability in freight brokerage and LTL. FX constrained this number by about $3 million or 1 percentage point. Turning to the logistics segment, revenue rose 1% globally.
Our European Transportation business had a revenue decline of 2.8% in the quarter.
FX translation constrained this number by about six percentage points.
We're continuing to grow and gain share in the UK and Spain, France remains our slowest growth market in Europe .
Our managed transportation business in Europe is putting up strong numbers up mid teens year over year.
Looking across our transportation segment overall, adjusted EBITDA Rose, 8% and adjusted EBITDA margin rose by 160 basis points, reflecting better profitability in freight brokerage and LTL FX constrained this number by about $3 million or one percentage point.
Turning to the logistics segment.
Revenue rose 1% globally.
Matt Fassler: We lost about 5 percentage points of revenue from the combined impact of FX and the decline in business from our largest customer. In North America, our 6% revenue growth in logistics reflects ongoing strength in consumer packaged goods, food and beverage, aerospace, and healthcare. In Europe, logistics revenue declined 2%. FX constrained this number by about 6 percentage points. We're continuing to build on our market-leading position as the largest outsource provider of e-fulfillment logistics in Europe. Once again, e-commerce was our strongest vertical in European logistics. Adjusted EBITDA for logistics rose 2% year-over-year in the quarter, and adjusted EBITDA margin tracked flat, improving from a small Q1 decline. The combined impact of FX translation and the downsizing of our largest customer cost us approximately $10 million of EBITDA. We believe that excluding these items more accurately frames the underlying growth in our core logistics business.
Matt Fassler: We lost about 5 percentage points of revenue from the combined impact of FX and the decline in business from our largest customer. In North America, our 6% revenue growth in logistics reflects ongoing strength in consumer packaged goods, food and beverage, aerospace, and healthcare. In Europe, logistics revenue declined 2%. FX constrained this number by about 6 percentage points. We're continuing to build on our market-leading position as the largest outsource provider of e-fulfillment logistics in Europe. Once again, e-commerce was our strongest vertical in European logistics. Adjusted EBITDA for logistics rose 2% year-over-year in the quarter, and adjusted EBITDA margin tracked flat, improving from a small Q1 decline. The combined impact of FX translation and the downsizing of our largest customer cost us approximately $10 million of EBITDA. We believe that excluding these items more accurately frames the underlying growth in our core logistics business.
We lost about five percentage points of revenue from the combined impact of FX and the decline in business from our largest customer.
In North America, our 6% revenue growth and logistics reflects ongoing strength in consumer package goods food and beverage aerospace and health care.
In your logistics revenue declined 2% FX constrained this number by about six percentage points, we're continuing to build on our market leading position as the largest outsourced provider of E fulfillment logistics in Europe .
And once again e-commerce was our strongest verticals in European logistics.
Adjusted EBITDA for logistics rose, 2% year over year in the quarter.
And adjusted EBITDA margin tracked flat improving from a small first quarter decline.
The combined impact of FX translation, and the downsizing of our largest customer cost us approximately $10 million of EBITDA.
We believe that excluding these items more accurately frames the underlying growth in our core logistics business.
Matt Fassler: For the company overall, our global sales pipeline is now at a record level, up 31% year-over-year. It's progressively growing from $3.5 billion in December and now up to $4.4 billion in Q2. The dollar amount of our new business wins fell 5% year-over-year, but at $1.04 billion was still one of the highest quarterly sales totals in our history. Because new business one could be chunky, we look at it over a longer period of time. For the first half overall, new business one rose 4%, with North America up in the high single digits and Europe down by about that same magnitude, consistent with the macro in that region. Moving down the income statement, interest expense rose to $72 million from $55 million a year ago, reflecting our earlier debt issuance to fund our share buybacks.
Matt Fassler: For the company overall, our global sales pipeline is now at a record level, up 31% year-over-year. It's progressively growing from $3.5 billion in December and now up to $4.4 billion in Q2. The dollar amount of our new business wins fell 5% year-over-year, but at $1.04 billion was still one of the highest quarterly sales totals in our history. Because new business one could be chunky, we look at it over a longer period of time. For the first half overall, new business one rose 4%, with North America up in the high single digits and Europe down by about that same magnitude, consistent with the macro in that region. Moving down the income statement, interest expense rose to $72 million from $55 million a year ago, reflecting our earlier debt issuance to fund our share buybacks.
For the company overall, our global sales pipeline is now at a record level.
31% year over year, it's progressing really growing from three and a half billion dollars in December and now up to $4.4 billion in Q2.
The dollar amount of our new business wins fell 5% year over year, but at $1.04 billion was still one of the highest quarterly sales totals in our history.
Because of new business, one can be chunky, we look at it over a longer period of time and for the first half overall, new business won rose, 4% with North America up in the high single digits and Europe down by about that same magnitude consistent with the macro in that region.
Moving down the income statement.
Interest expense rose to $72 million from $55 million, a year ago, reflecting our earlier debt issuance to fund our share buybacks, our effective tax rate improved to 24.1% from 25.4% a year ago.
Matt Fassler: Our effective tax rate improved to 24.1% from 25.4% a year ago. Our weighted average diluted share count declined to 102 million from 134 million a year ago and 117 million last quarter. This primarily reflects our share buyback activity. We purchased 2.1 million shares in Q2 at an average price of $56.78 for total repurchase activity of $120 million. Since we launched our program in December, we've bought back 35.2 million shares at an average price of $53.42 for a total cost of $1.9 billion. Our buyback activity was $0.18 accretive to adjusted EPS for Q2 and should continue to prove nicely accretive for the year. We've completed over $3 billion in debt financings since December to lower our interest rates and improve other terms while extending the company's maturity profile.
Matt Fassler: Our effective tax rate improved to 24.1% from 25.4% a year ago. Our weighted average diluted share count declined to 102 million from 134 million a year ago and 117 million last quarter. This primarily reflects our share buyback activity. We purchased 2.1 million shares in Q2 at an average price of $56.78 for total repurchase activity of $120 million. Since we launched our program in December, we've bought back 35.2 million shares at an average price of $53.42 for a total cost of $1.9 billion. Our buyback activity was $0.18 accretive to adjusted EPS for Q2 and should continue to prove nicely accretive for the year. We've completed over $3 billion in debt financings since December to lower our interest rates and improve other terms while extending the company's maturity profile.
Our weighted average diluted share count decline 202 million from $134 million, a year ago, and 117 million last quarter. This primarily reflects our share buyback activity.
We purchased 2.1 million shares in the second quarter at an average price of $56.78 for total repurchase activity of $120 million since we launched our program in December .
We bought back 35.2 million shares at an average price of $53.42 for a total cost of $1.9 billion. Our buyback activity was 18 cents accretive to adjusted EPS for Q2, and should continue to improve nicely accretive for the year.
We've completed over $3 billion in debt financings since December to lower our interest rates and improve other terms, while extending the company's maturity profile.
Matt Fassler: We amended our ABL facility in the quarter, extending its maturity date, increasing the size of the lender commitments, and reducing the premium to our interest rate benchmarks, and our commitment fees. Cash flow from operations in the quarter was $260 million compared with $267 million a year ago. Gross capital expenditures decreased to $118 million from $126 million a year ago. Net capital expenditures were $80 million compared with $74 million a year ago. We booked a gain on sale of assets of $19 million, of which $17 million related to real estate. $11 million of this was in our LTL business, with the remaining $6 million sprinkled elsewhere in the business. Gross and net CapEx both tracked lower than expected, reflecting a combination of capital discipline and timing. All in, free cash flow of $246 million increased from $193 million a year ago.
Matt Fassler: We amended our ABL facility in the quarter, extending its maturity date, increasing the size of the lender commitments, and reducing the premium to our interest rate benchmarks, and our commitment fees. Cash flow from operations in the quarter was $260 million compared with $267 million a year ago. Gross capital expenditures decreased to $118 million from $126 million a year ago. Net capital expenditures were $80 million compared with $74 million a year ago. We booked a gain on sale of assets of $19 million, of which $17 million related to real estate. $11 million of this was in our LTL business, with the remaining $6 million sprinkled elsewhere in the business. Gross and net CapEx both tracked lower than expected, reflecting a combination of capital discipline and timing. All in, free cash flow of $246 million increased from $193 million a year ago.
We amended our ABL facility and the corridor extending its maturity date, increasing the size of the lender commitments and reducing the premium to our interest rate benchmarks and our commitment fees.
Cash flow from operations in the quarter was $260 million compared with $267 million a year ago.
Gross capital expenditures decreased to $118 million from $126 million a year ago.
Net capital expenditures were $80 million compared with $74 million a year ago.
We booked a gain on sale of assets of $19 million of which $17 million related to real estate $11 million of this was in our LTL business with the remaining 6 million sprinkled elsewhere in the business.
Gross and net Capex, both trap lower than expected, reflecting a combination of capital discipline and timing.
All in free cash flow of $246 million increased from $193 million a year ago.
Matt Fassler: I want to bring you up to speed on our strategic growth initiatives, especially as they relate to technology. As many of you know, we expect to invest about $550 million in technology this year. We have a rigorous process to determine how that investment can best deliver value for our shareholders. It's a thorough decision process that's guided by four principles. First, we invest in technology to help make our customer supply chains more efficient. We've seen this investment pay dividends in the form of market share and, increasingly, through productivity. Second, we think the transportation world, over time, is going to be fully automated, and we're engaged in automating almost every touchpoint of the transaction, from the time a customer seeks capacity to the selection of that capacity and the various steps that take the freight from origin to destination. We're doing it across multiple modes.
Matt Fassler: I want to bring you up to speed on our strategic growth initiatives, especially as they relate to technology. As many of you know, we expect to invest about $550 million in technology this year. We have a rigorous process to determine how that investment can best deliver value for our shareholders. It's a thorough decision process that's guided by four principles. First, we invest in technology to help make our customer supply chains more efficient. We've seen this investment pay dividends in the form of market share and, increasingly, through productivity. Second, we think the transportation world, over time, is going to be fully automated, and we're engaged in automating almost every touchpoint of the transaction, from the time a customer seeks capacity to the selection of that capacity and the various steps that take the freight from origin to destination. We're doing it across multiple modes.
I want to bring you up to speed on our strategic growth initiatives, especially as they relate to technology.
As many of you know, we expect to invest about $550 million in technology. This year, we had a rigorous process to determine how that investment can best deliver value for our shareholders. It's a thorough decision process. That's guided by four principles first we invest in technology to help make our customer supply chains more efficient we've seen this investment pay dividends in the form of market share and increasingly through productivity.
Second.
We think the transportation world overtime is going to be fully automated and we're engaged in automating almost every touch point of the transaction from the time, a customer seeks capacity to the selection of that capacity and the various steps to take the freight from origin to destination and we're doing it across multiple modes.
Third we're using dynamic data science to operate our business more efficiently. The biggest opportunity is to increase the efficiency of our roughly $6.5 billion of annual labor spend but there are applications in other areas as well.
Matt Fassler: Third, we're using dynamic data science to operate our business more efficiently. The biggest opportunity is to increase the efficiency of our roughly $6.5 billion of annual labor spend, but there are applications in other areas as well. Fourth, we're working to continuously improve customer visibility and customer service. We want to increase transparency for shippers and all of our transportation customers, for our contract logistics customers, for the customers who receive goods through our last-mile contract carriers, and for the suppliers and carriers who support these supply chains. This increases customer satisfaction by improving their ability to plan and allocate resources. Looking forward, we're particularly excited about 10 key initiatives, all of which are underway, that represent potential profit growth opportunity of $700 million to $1 billion by 2022. We're highly focused on pricing analytics. Our proprietary pricing algorithms leverage elasticity models to automate pricing and optimize mix.
Matt Fassler: Third, we're using dynamic data science to operate our business more efficiently. The biggest opportunity is to increase the efficiency of our roughly $6.5 billion of annual labor spend, but there are applications in other areas as well. Fourth, we're working to continuously improve customer visibility and customer service. We want to increase transparency for shippers and all of our transportation customers, for our contract logistics customers, for the customers who receive goods through our last-mile contract carriers, and for the suppliers and carriers who support these supply chains. This increases customer satisfaction by improving their ability to plan and allocate resources. Looking forward, we're particularly excited about 10 key initiatives, all of which are underway, that represent potential profit growth opportunity of $700 million to $1 billion by 2022. We're highly focused on pricing analytics. Our proprietary pricing algorithms leverage elasticity models to automate pricing and optimize mix.
And fourth we're working to continuously improve customer visibility and customer service, we want to increase transparency for shippers and all of our transportation customers for our contract logistics customers for the customers who receive goods through our last mile contract carriers and for the suppliers and carriers, who support these supply chains. This increases customer satisfaction by improving their ability to plan and allocate resources.
Looking forward, we're particularly excited about 10 key initiatives all of which are underway that represent potential profit growth opportunity of 700 million to $1 billion by 2022.
We're highly focused on pricing analytics, our proprietary pricing algorithms leverage elasticity models to automate pricing and optimized mix. We're seeing the results play out in LTL and brokerage and we've identified substantially more opportunity going forward.
Matt Fassler: We're seeing the results play out in LTL and brokerage. We've identified substantially more opportunity going forward. Our XPO Smart workforce planning tools are driving productivity in our logistics network. We currently have this technology in about 100 of our warehouses in North America, with a larger rollout underway in both North America and Europe. We've typically achieved labor productivity improvements between 5% and 7%. At some sites, we've seen more than a 25% efficiency improvement. Based on the success we've achieved in our warehouses and in our 18 pilot sites, we are rolling it to our entire LTL network. In LTL, in addition to workforce planning and pricing, we're leveraging the data that flows through our systems daily in areas like dynamic route optimization. This is where we can improve the efficiency of pickup and delivery, which reduces cost. Just as importantly, increases service levels.
Matt Fassler: We're seeing the results play out in LTL and brokerage. We've identified substantially more opportunity going forward. Our XPO Smart workforce planning tools are driving productivity in our logistics network. We currently have this technology in about 100 of our warehouses in North America, with a larger rollout underway in both North America and Europe. We've typically achieved labor productivity improvements between 5% and 7%. At some sites, we've seen more than a 25% efficiency improvement. Based on the success we've achieved in our warehouses and in our 18 pilot sites, we are rolling it to our entire LTL network. In LTL, in addition to workforce planning and pricing, we're leveraging the data that flows through our systems daily in areas like dynamic route optimization. This is where we can improve the efficiency of pickup and delivery, which reduces cost. Just as importantly, increases service levels.
Our X.P.L. smart workforce planning tools are driving productivity in our logistics network.
We currently have is technology and about 100 of our warehouses in North America with a larger rollout underway in both North America and Europe .
We typically achieve labor productivity improvement between five and 7% at some sites, we've seen more than a 25% efficiency improvement.
Based on the success, we've achieved in our warehouses and in our 18 pilot sites, we are rolling it to our entire LTL network.
You know T. out in addition to workforce planning and pricing, we're leveraging that data that flows through our systems daily in areas like dynamic route optimization. This is where we can improve the efficiency of pickup and delivery, which reduces cost, but just as importantly increases service levels and we're optimizing our LTL line, how route mine haul routes to drive improvement in trailer utilization and miles driven.
Matt Fassler: We're optimizing our LTL line haul routes to drive improvement in trailer utilization and miles driven. We're generating rapid-fire growth from XPO Connect with more than 28,000 carriers on the platform, and that number is climbing fast. We had more than 16,000 downloads of our Drive XPO app in Q2, which was more than double the number of downloads we saw in Q1. With our freight optimizer engine behind XPO Connect, we're buying capacity better than the market and expect more sharp increases in productivity going forward. The final tech-related initiative is XPO Direct. The distribution marketplace increasingly values speed and flexibility. XPO Direct, our shared distribution model, offers precisely that, along with real-time customer visibility and predictive analytics. The network includes warehouses and last-mile hubs. We see it as a key component of our e-commerce and omnichannel strategy.
Matt Fassler: We're optimizing our LTL line haul routes to drive improvement in trailer utilization and miles driven. We're generating rapid-fire growth from XPO Connect with more than 28,000 carriers on the platform, and that number is climbing fast. We had more than 16,000 downloads of our Drive XPO app in Q2, which was more than double the number of downloads we saw in Q1. With our freight optimizer engine behind XPO Connect, we're buying capacity better than the market and expect more sharp increases in productivity going forward. The final tech-related initiative is XPO Direct. The distribution marketplace increasingly values speed and flexibility. XPO Direct, our shared distribution model, offers precisely that, along with real-time customer visibility and predictive analytics. The network includes warehouses and last-mile hubs. We see it as a key component of our e-commerce and omnichannel strategy.
We're generating rapid fire growth from Expo connect with more than 28000 carriers on the platform and that number is climbing fast we had more than 16000 downloads of our drive Expo App in Q2, which was more than double the number of downloads we saw in Q1.
And with our freight optimizer engine behind Expo kidnapped.
We're buying capacity better than the market and expect more sharp increases in productivity going forward.
The final Tech related initiative is X PEO direct distribution marketplace increasingly values speed and flexibility.
That's PEO direct our shared a distribution model offers precisely that along with real time customer visibility and predictive analytics. The network includes warehouses and last mile hubs, we see it as a key component of our E Commerce and Omnichannel strategy, we're investing in that and we're gaining traction with existing customers. We're onboarding recent new business wins and engaging in active dialog with prospective customers. We remain on track to reach a 1 billion dollar revenue run rate by 2022.
Matt Fassler: We're investing in it, and we're gaining traction with existing customers. We're onboarding recent new business wins and engaging in active dialogue with prospective customers. We remain on track to reach a $1 billion revenue run rate by 2022. In Europe, we have two notable opportunities for revenue and profit growth. One is cross-selling. Given the large addressable market in Europe and our relatively low share, we see vast potential to cross-sell our services in Europe regardless of economic conditions. We're targeting about 250 pan-European customers and importing proven sales strategies and best practices from our US strategic account managers. Also, we have an opportunity to improve our logistics margins in Europe, getting closer to the levels we deliver in North America. We're installing managers at the pan-European level, setting up implementation teams to pilot new concepts, and adding Six Sigma professionals to expand margins.
Matt Fassler: We're investing in it, and we're gaining traction with existing customers. We're onboarding recent new business wins and engaging in active dialogue with prospective customers. We remain on track to reach a $1 billion revenue run rate by 2022. In Europe, we have two notable opportunities for revenue and profit growth. One is cross-selling. Given the large addressable market in Europe and our relatively low share, we see vast potential to cross-sell our services in Europe regardless of economic conditions. We're targeting about 250 pan-European customers and importing proven sales strategies and best practices from our US strategic account managers. Also, we have an opportunity to improve our logistics margins in Europe, getting closer to the levels we deliver in North America. We're installing managers at the pan-European level, setting up implementation teams to pilot new concepts, and adding Six Sigma professionals to expand margins.
In Europe .
We have two notable opportunities for revenue and profit growth one is cross selling.
Given the large addressable market in Europe , and our relatively low share we see vast potential to cross sell our services in Europe .
Regardless of economic conditions were targeting about 250 Pan European customers and importing proved himself strategies and best practices from our U.S. strategic account managers also we have an opportunity to improve our logistics margins in Europe getting closer to the levels. We deliver in North America, we're installing managers at the Pan European level setting up implementation teams to pilot new concepts and adding six sigma professionals to expand margins.
Matt Fassler: We also see additional opportunity in back-office optimization, and we see further opportunities in procurement, for example, in temporary labor, purchase transportation, and waste management. In Q2, we continue to receive recognition for our service from a number of esteemed customers, including Ford, GM, and Raytheon. In May, XPO was named as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for the 3rd consecutive year. Finally, over the past few weeks, we have been proud to have served as the official transport partner of the Tour de France. This is the 39th consecutive year that XPO has partnered to support all 21 stages of the race. With that, I'll turn it back to the operator, and we'll take your questions.
Matt Fassler: We also see additional opportunity in back-office optimization, and we see further opportunities in procurement, for example, in temporary labor, purchase transportation, and waste management. In Q2, we continue to receive recognition for our service from a number of esteemed customers, including Ford, GM, and Raytheon. In May, XPO was named as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for the 3rd consecutive year. Finally, over the past few weeks, we have been proud to have served as the official transport partner of the Tour de France. This is the 39th consecutive year that XPO has partnered to support all 21 stages of the race. With that, I'll turn it back to the operator, and we'll take your questions.
We also see additional opportunity in back office optimization, and we see further opportunities and procurement for example in temporary labor purchase transportation and waste management.
In the second quarter, we continued to receive recognition for our service from a number of esteemed customers, including Ford GM and Raytheon.
And in May X P. I was named as a leader in the Gartner Magic quadrant for the third consecutive year.
Finally over the past few weeks, we have been proud to have served as the official transport partner of the tour de France. This is the 39th consecutive year that ex vivo has partnered to support all 21 stages of the race with that I'll turn it back to the operator and we'll take your questions.
Thank you.
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Oh, Thank you very much a brownie team good morning.
Conor McDade: Thank you very much. Hey, Bradley team. Good morning. I wanted to touch a little bit on the pricing in LTL. It's interesting that you guys have your core pricing going up while your tonnage declines really haven't moved in what many would categorize as a difficult marketplace. Is this basically attributed to the pricing analytics that you're doing, or is there something else that we're missing here?
Jason Seidl: Thank you very much. Hey, Bradley team. Good morning. I wanted to touch a little bit on the pricing in LTL. It's interesting that you guys have your core pricing going up while your tonnage declines really haven't moved in what many would categorize as a difficult marketplace. Is this basically attributed to the pricing analytics that you're doing, or is there something else that we're missing here?
Where you wanted to.
Oh, it's a little bit on on the on the pricing in LTL, It's it's interesting that.
You guys have your core person going up while the tonnage declines really hasn't moved in what many would categorize as a difficult marketplace.
Basically it's a good to the pricing analytics that we're doing are or is there something else that we're missing.
I would like to take full credit for that but I don't think we honestly can't because you can see our competitors were also raising price and in most cases, the cases raising price more than we are what I think the environment is an LTL properly characterize should be is you have sluggish volumes in general negative tonnage pretty much across the board and that's been that way for a while it's not a new event.
Brad Jacobs: I would like to take full credit for that, but I don't think we honestly can because you can see our competitors are also raising price and, in most cases, raising price more than we are. What I think the environment is in LTL properly characterized should be is you have sluggish volumes in general, negative tonnage pretty much across the board, and that's been that way for a while. It's not a new event. You have a very concentrated carrier base, so there's pricing rationality, there's pricing discipline. There's weak demand, but there's tight supply, and so that leads to pricing gains. Now, the pricing algorithms that we've been rolling out, it's fairly recent, so we're not seeing huge benefit from that yet. We're seeing beginnings of that, but over time, we will see a lot of benefit from that going forward.
Brad Jacobs: I would like to take full credit for that, but I don't think we honestly can because you can see our competitors are also raising price and, in most cases, raising price more than we are. What I think the environment is in LTL properly characterized should be is you have sluggish volumes in general, negative tonnage pretty much across the board, and that's been that way for a while. It's not a new event. You have a very concentrated carrier base, so there's pricing rationality, there's pricing discipline. There's weak demand, but there's tight supply, and so that leads to pricing gains. Now, the pricing algorithms that we've been rolling out, it's fairly recent, so we're not seeing huge benefit from that yet. We're seeing beginnings of that, but over time, we will see a lot of benefit from that going forward.
Bob do you have a very concentrated carrier base. So there's pricing rationality is pricing discipline. So there's weak demand, but there is tight supply and so that leads to pricing gains now be pricing algorithms that we've been rolling out fairly recent so we're not seeing huge benefit from that yet we seem beginnings of that but over time, we will see a lot of benefit from that going forward.
[noise] and I'm, assuming you guys remain confident in the direction of the LTL pricing marketplace.
[Company Representative] (XPO): I'm assuming you guys remain confident in the direction of the LTL pricing marketplace?
Jason Seidl: I'm assuming you guys remain confident in the direction of the LTL pricing marketplace?
We are pricing is definitely from an LTL.
Brad Jacobs: We are. Pricing is definitely firm in LTL. It is. It is across the board. We raised prices successfully in all three of our types of categories of customers: large customers, small customers, and 3PLs. You saw a progression in the raising of the rates this quarter versus last quarter. We also had contract rates on renewals. We're up 5.2%, which is something we were watching because in Q1, it had decelerated. I mean, still increased. It was up 3.7% on contract renewals in Q1, but that had been down in Q4. Here, we've seen it pop back up to 5.2%. I think tonnage is going to stay soft, maybe even get a little softer depending on what's going on with the industrial economy. I think pricing is going to stay firm.
Brad Jacobs: We are. Pricing is definitely firm in LTL. It is. It is across the board. We raised prices successfully in all three of our types of categories of customers: large customers, small customers, and 3PLs. You saw a progression in the raising of the rates this quarter versus last quarter. We also had contract rates on renewals. We're up 5.2%, which is something we were watching because in Q1, it had decelerated. I mean, still increased. It was up 3.7% on contract renewals in Q1, but that had been down in Q4. Here, we've seen it pop back up to 5.2%. I think tonnage is going to stay soft, maybe even get a little softer depending on what's going on with the industrial economy. I think pricing is going to stay firm.
This is it is across the board. It's we raise prices are successfully in all three of our types of categories of customers large customers more customers and Threepl Ah you saw progression in the raising of the race a this quarter versus last quarter.
We also had contract rates on renewals were up 5.2%, which is something we were watching because in the first quarter and had decelerated I mean still increased it was up 3.7% on contract renewals in the first quarter, but it had been down in the fourth quarter and here, we've seen it popped back up to 5.2%. So I think tonnage is gonna stays soft maybe even get a little softer depending on what's going on with the industrial economy, and I think pricing is going to stay firm.
Okay, and Bret as a quick follow up you know you guys. Obviously have been very aggressive on your buyback as you sort of went to the sidelines on acquisition, but we've seen acquisition multiples come in and and several publicly traded companies have noted that there's something out there looking at again and have the multiples coming in changed your mind on how to deploy capital level.
[Company Representative] (XPO): Okay. Brad, as a quick follow-up, you guys obviously have been very aggressive on your buyback as you sort of went to the sidelines on acquisition. We've seen acquisition multiples come in, and several publicly traded companies have noted that they're sort of out there looking again. Have the multiples coming in changed your mind on how to deploy capital at all?
Jason Seidl: Okay. Brad, as a quick follow-up, you guys obviously have been very aggressive on your buyback as you sort of went to the sidelines on acquisition. We've seen acquisition multiples come in, and several publicly traded companies have noted that they're sort of out there looking again. Have the multiples coming in changed your mind on how to deploy capital at all?
We pay attention to that but we also pay attention to the alternative of or multiple which is also.
Brad Jacobs: We pay attention to that, but we also pay attention to the alternative of our multiple, which is also, as someone said, staggeringly inexpensive. In the Q2, we had about $246 million of free cash flow. We took about half of that, bought back stock, took half of that, and reduced net debt. I say net debt because we didn't want to have prepayment penalties, so we basically just increased the cash. That was our strategy in the Q2. The board will look at the four alternatives we have to create shareholder value with all our excess cash regularly. We may decide to err more on the side of reducing net debt, or more on buying back shares, or returning to M&A, or increasing in high ROI CapEx. This depends how the puts and takes of each one of those choices falls out.
Brad Jacobs: We pay attention to that, but we also pay attention to the alternative of our multiple, which is also, as someone said, staggeringly inexpensive. In the Q2, we had about $246 million of free cash flow. We took about half of that, bought back stock, took half of that, and reduced net debt. I say net debt because we didn't want to have prepayment penalties, so we basically just increased the cash. That was our strategy in the Q2. The board will look at the four alternatives we have to create shareholder value with all our excess cash regularly. We may decide to err more on the side of reducing net debt, or more on buying back shares, or returning to M&A, or increasing in high ROI CapEx. This depends how the puts and takes of each one of those choices falls out.
As someone said staggeringly inexpensive so.
In the second quarter, we had about $246 million of free cash flow. We took about half of that bought back stock took half of that and reduce net debt I say net debt because we do want to have prepayment penalties. So we basically increased the cash. So that's what is our strategy in the second quarter and the board will look at the four alternatives, we have to create shareholder value with or excess cash regularly and we may decide to air more on the side of reducing that debt or more on buying back shares or returning to M&A or increasing in high ROI Capex just depends how the puts and takes of each one of those choices falls out.
Okay really appreciate the color as always thank you.
[Company Representative] (XPO): Okay. Really appreciate the call, as always. Thank you.
Jason Seidl: Okay. Really appreciate the call, as always. Thank you.
Thank you Sir.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you, sir.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you, sir.
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Hey, Thanks, good morning.
Matt Fassler: Hey, hey. Thanks. Good morning. I wonder if you could stick on LTL here for a minute. Can you give us a sense of maybe how you're seeing trends kind of form here in Q3? I guess can you give us an idea of maybe what July tonnage was like and how those sort of contract renewals were pacing through the beginning of Q3?
Chris Weatherby: Hey, hey. Thanks. Good morning. I wonder if you could stick on LTL here for a minute. Can you give us a sense of maybe how you're seeing trends kind of form here in Q3? I guess can you give us an idea of maybe what July tonnage was like and how those sort of contract renewals were pacing through the beginning of Q3?
Wanted to stick on LTL here for a minute can you give us some sense.
Are you seeing trends kind of form your third quarter I guess can you give us an idea of me what July tonnage was like and how those sort of contract renewals were pacing through the beginning of the third quarter.
Yes contract renewals are going very well very well.
Brad Jacobs: Yes. Contract renewals are going very well, very well. Pricing is strong. Pricing is strong in LTL, period. Tonnage is not so strong. It hasn't been strong for a long time, and it's been a little less strong in the last couple of months. That's not something new. We're still within the band of the softness that we've seen for a while. Generally speaking, in LTL, we feel very positive about what we're doing. We had a record OR, a record not just for this quarter but for any quarter ever in our company and the predecessor company we had bought. It was 400 basis points up year-over-year, so it's a real nice improvement.
Brad Jacobs: Yes. Contract renewals are going very well, very well. Pricing is strong. Pricing is strong in LTL, period. Tonnage is not so strong. It hasn't been strong for a long time, and it's been a little less strong in the last couple of months. That's not something new. We're still within the band of the softness that we've seen for a while. Generally speaking, in LTL, we feel very positive about what we're doing. We had a record OR, a record not just for this quarter but for any quarter ever in our company and the predecessor company we had bought. It was 400 basis points up year-over-year, so it's a real nice improvement.
Pricing is strong pricing is strong in LTL period.
Tonnage is not so strong it has been strong for a long time and it's been a little less strong in the last couple of months, but that's not something new that you were still within the band of the softness that we've seen for a while.
Generally speaking in LTL, we feel very positive about what we're doing we had a record oh are a record not just for this quarter, but for any quarter ever in our company and the predecessor company. We bought was 400 basis points up year over year is a real nice improvement even if you take out real estate and we respect the opinions of people, who want to give somewhere between zero and 100% credit for real estate sales and that what it was about a 110 basis points. So you would have been 290 basis points up on or even with giving zero credit to the cash we got from real estate.
Brad Jacobs: Even if you take out real estate, and we respect the opinions of people who want to give somewhere between 0% and 100% credit for real estate sales, and that was about 110 basis points, you would have been 290 basis points up on OR even with giving 0 credit to the cash we got from real estate. We feel good about what the results are from all the activities we're taking. Load factor was up 1% year-over-year in Q2. This is great. It was down 2.7% in Q1. As you know, every 1% of load factor is $10 million a year of EBITDA. The workforce planning tools that we've rolled out in LTL are extremely exciting. You'll recall from last quarter, we had pioneered in many of our tech initiatives workforce planning tools.
Brad Jacobs: Even if you take out real estate, and we respect the opinions of people who want to give somewhere between 0% and 100% credit for real estate sales, and that was about 110 basis points, you would have been 290 basis points up on OR even with giving 0 credit to the cash we got from real estate. We feel good about what the results are from all the activities we're taking. Load factor was up 1% year-over-year in Q2. This is great. It was down 2.7% in Q1. As you know, every 1% of load factor is $10 million a year of EBITDA. The workforce planning tools that we've rolled out in LTL are extremely exciting. You'll recall from last quarter, we had pioneered in many of our tech initiatives workforce planning tools.
So we feel good about what we're what the results are from all the activities we're taking.
Load factor was up 1% year over year in the second quarter. This is great. It was down 2.7% in the first quarter and as you know every 1% a load factor is $10 million of your EBITDA. The workforce planning tools that we've rolled out in LTL extremely exciting you'll recall from last quarter. We had pioneered in many of our tech initiatives workforce planning tools. We thought hey, you know we have about six and half a billion dollars of labor costs globally, and we thought we did a really good job as if that wasn't on the top of our list of things that we want to put effort into improved but we had a tech group, who was playing algorithms to it.
Brad Jacobs: We thought, Hey, we have about $6.5 billion of labor costs globally, and we thought we did a really good job at that. That wasn't on the top of our list of things that we want to put effort into improve. We had a tech group who was applying algorithms to it, and we found out that we can do it a lot better than we had been doing it in the past. We rolled it out. Well, now it's up to about 100 warehouses of our 801 warehouses. We found productivity on labor there improved between 5% and 7%. We found in some outliers, it was more than 25%, and that was just really eye-opening for us. We said, Let's change the GUIs a little bit and adapt it more for a cross-dock than a warehouse, which we did.
Brad Jacobs: We thought, Hey, we have about $6.5 billion of labor costs globally, and we thought we did a really good job at that. That wasn't on the top of our list of things that we want to put effort into improve. We had a tech group who was applying algorithms to it, and we found out that we can do it a lot better than we had been doing it in the past. We rolled it out. Well, now it's up to about 100 warehouses of our 801 warehouses. We found productivity on labor there improved between 5% and 7%. We found in some outliers, it was more than 25%, and that was just really eye-opening for us. We said, Let's change the GUIs a little bit and adapt it more for a cross-dock than a warehouse, which we did.
And we found out that we can do a lot better than we had been doing in the past and we rolled it out well now it's up to about 100 warehouses of our 801 warehouses and we found productivity on labor there improved between five and 7% you found in some outliers with more than 25% and that was really just really eye opening for us.
So we said, let's change the go ease a little bit and adaptive more for cross docks and warehouse, which we did we piloted it and 18 LTL side very good preliminary results and we're going to roll out. The plan is not a role that smart labor tools out to all 290 of our LTL sites. This year I'm very optimistic about the improvements we're going to see there now that we're halfway through the year, Chris we have visibility into the into the year you can expect more than 250 basis points of or improvement in each of the third and fourth quarters. So that'll come out to about over $200 million or 200 basis points of year over year improvement for the full year.
Brad Jacobs: We piloted it in 18 LTL sites. We got very good preliminary results. The plan is now to roll that smart labor tools out to all 290 of our LTL sites this year. I'm very optimistic about the improvements we're going to see there. Now that we're halfway through the year, Chris, and we have visibility into the year, you can expect more than 250 basis points of OR improvement in each of the Q3 and Q4. That'll come out to about over $200 million or 200 basis points of year-over-year improvement for the full year.
Brad Jacobs: We piloted it in 18 LTL sites. We got very good preliminary results. The plan is now to roll that smart labor tools out to all 290 of our LTL sites this year. I'm very optimistic about the improvements we're going to see there. Now that we're halfway through the year, Chris, and we have visibility into the year, you can expect more than 250 basis points of OR improvement in each of the Q3 and Q4. That'll come out to about over $200 million or 200 basis points of year-over-year improvement for the full year.
Got it Okay. That's helpful and just thinking about some of the labor productivity tools and some of the initiatives you have going obviously that they're giving you a benefit here in the back half.
Matt Fassler: Got it. Okay. That's helpful. Just when you think about some of the labor productivity tools and the initiatives that you have going, obviously, they're giving you a benefit here in the back half. Should we change the way we think about sort of the longer-term opportunity in terms of OR within LTL? Is it still 100 to 200 basis points when we think about 2020? Is it more or less given the progress that we've had so far this year?
Chris Weatherby: Got it. Okay. That's helpful. Just when you think about some of the labor productivity tools and the initiatives that you have going, obviously, they're giving you a benefit here in the back half. Should we change the way we think about sort of the longer-term opportunity in terms of OR within LTL? Is it still 100 to 200 basis points when we think about 2020? Is it more or less given the progress that we've had so far this year?
Should we change the way, we think about sort of the longer term opportunity in terms of a war were banned LTL is the 100 to 200 basis points. When you think about 2020 is it more or less given the progress that we've had so far this year.
Well, if you look at the old cars of the whole group of a public LTL, there's there's OTI, leading the pack and there's us catching up to him, but haven't caught up to him yet and there fantastic role model for us.
Brad Jacobs: Well, if you look at the ORs of the whole group of public LTLs, there's OD leading the pack. There's us catching up to them but haven't caught up to them yet. They're a fantastic role model for us. There's a big gap, and then there's the next group of operating ratios. We're going to continue to improve our operating ratio. We haven't been able to crack 80 yet. Maybe we will, maybe we won't, but that's our goal. Our goal is to increase the actual amount of operating income and actual amount of EBITDA on a year-over-year basis and to pay attention to the amount of capital we're putting into the business and the return on capital we're getting for that.
Brad Jacobs: Well, if you look at the ORs of the whole group of public LTLs, there's OD leading the pack. There's us catching up to them but haven't caught up to them yet. They're a fantastic role model for us. There's a big gap, and then there's the next group of operating ratios. We're going to continue to improve our operating ratio. We haven't been able to crack 80 yet. Maybe we will, maybe we won't, but that's our goal. Our goal is to increase the actual amount of operating income and actual amount of EBITDA on a year-over-year basis and to pay attention to the amount of capital we're putting into the business and the return on capital we're getting for that.
And then there's a big gap and then there's the next group of <unk> operating ratios.
So we're going to continue to improve our operating ratio and we haven't been able to crack 80, yet Oh and you know that we will maybe we won't but that's our goal and our goal is to increase the actual amount of operating income and actual amount of EBITDA on a year over year basis and to pay attention to the amount of capital, we're putting into the business and the return on capital we're getting for that but as a result of all that we believe are or will still be among the two best operating ratios in the LTL group.
Brad Jacobs: As a result of all that, we believe our OR will still be among the two best operating ratios in the LTL group.
Brad Jacobs: As a result of all that, we believe our OR will still be among the two best operating ratios in the LTL group.
Sure enough stuff competition, certainly and then one last question if you're if you allow me just so we understand when we think about the rest of the year and what's embedded in the guidance how should we think about gains whether they be real estate or other gains included in the EBITDA guidance for the back half of the year.
Matt Fassler: Fair enough. It's tough competition, certainly. One last question, if you'll allow me, just so we understand when we think about the rest of the year and what's embedded in the guidance, how should we think about gains, whether they be real estate or other gains included in the EBITDA guidance for the back half of the year?
Chris Weatherby: Fair enough. It's tough competition, certainly. One last question, if you'll allow me, just so we understand when we think about the rest of the year and what's embedded in the guidance, how should we think about gains, whether they be real estate or other gains included in the EBITDA guidance for the back half of the year?
Sure it's Matt.
Brad Jacobs: Sure. It's Matt. The first half of this year, we registered $36 million in gains from the sale of real estate. We would expect less than that for the Q3 and Q4 combined. In addition to that, we have an underutilized office property, which we're in the process of selling, and that has been embedded in our cash flow guidance and in our earnings guidance all year. That should generate cash flow in excess of $50 million and most likely a $5 to 10 million gain on that sale at some point in the second half of the year.
Brad Jacobs: Sure. It's Matt. The first half of this year, we registered $36 million in gains from the sale of real estate. We would expect less than that for the Q3 and Q4 combined. In addition to that, we have an underutilized office property, which we're in the process of selling, and that has been embedded in our cash flow guidance and in our earnings guidance all year. That should generate cash flow in excess of $50 million and most likely a $5 to 10 million gain on that sale at some point in the second half of the year.
The first half of this year.
We registered a $36 million and gains from the sale of real estate, we would expect a less than that after the third and fourth quarter combined.
In addition to that we have an underutilized office property, which we're in the process of selling and that has been embedded in our cash flow guidance and in our earnings guidance all year that should generate a cash flow in excess of $50 million and most likely a five to 10 million dollar gain on that sale at some point in the second half of the year.
Okay, Alright, that's very helpful. Thanks for the time appreciate it.
Matt Fassler: Okay. All right. That's very helpful. Thanks for the time. Appreciate it.
Chris Weatherby: Okay. All right. That's very helpful. Thanks for the time. Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you.
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Ah Thanks, guys.
[Company Representative] (XPO): Thanks, guys. Just a follow-up on the pipeline of new business. Brad, a couple of quarters ago when you announced the departure of your biggest customer, you said that it will take some time to kind of recover or kind of rebuild post that. You guys have done a really good job in a very tough environment of actually bumping up that pipeline. Can you just give us a little more detail as to kind of what drove that? I mean, are there any particular end markets? Have you changed your approach to go to new customers? Kind of what's driving that incremental opportunity that you're targeting?
Ravi Shanker: Thanks, guys. Just a follow-up on the pipeline of new business. Brad, a couple of quarters ago when you announced the departure of your biggest customer, you said that it will take some time to kind of recover or kind of rebuild post that. You guys have done a really good job in a very tough environment of actually bumping up that pipeline. Can you just give us a little more detail as to kind of what drove that? I mean, are there any particular end markets? Have you changed your approach to go to new customers? Kind of what's driving that incremental opportunity that you're targeting?
So just a follow up on the on the pipeline of new business, Brad a couple of quarters ago. When when you when you announced the departure of the biggest customer you said that.
It will take some time to kind of recover or kind of rebuild both that what do you guys have done a really good job in a very tough environment up actually bumping up that pipeline can you just give us a little more detail as to kind of what drove that I mean are there any particular end markets have you changed your approach to the Mark to go to new customers kind of what's what's driving that incremental opportunity that you're targeting.
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Brad Jacobs: Good morning, Ravi. Well, there's a cliché that says there's nothing like a hanging to concentrate the mind. When you lose $600 million of business like we did at the end of last year, you concentrate. You get focused, and that's what the organization did. You look at the pipeline, it's at an all-time record high. As Matt mentioned in his prepared comments, it's up to $4.4 billion. It's up 31% year-over-year. It's only the second time it's over $4 billion. I guess apart from the actual number, the other thing that is impressive about it is the trend of it. You saw in Q4, the pipeline was up 9% year-over-year. In Q1, the pipeline was up 13%. In Q2, it zoomed up.
Brad Jacobs: Good morning, Ravi. Well, there's a cliché that says there's nothing like a hanging to concentrate the mind. When you lose $600 million of business like we did at the end of last year, you concentrate. You get focused, and that's what the organization did. You look at the pipeline, it's at an all-time record high. As Matt mentioned in his prepared comments, it's up to $4.4 billion. It's up 31% year-over-year. It's only the second time it's over $4 billion. I guess apart from the actual number, the other thing that is impressive about it is the trend of it. You saw in Q4, the pipeline was up 9% year-over-year. In Q1, the pipeline was up 13%. In Q2, it zoomed up.
You know, there's a cliche that says there's nothing like a hanging to concentrate the mind and when you lose $600 million of business like we did at the end of last year, you concentrate you get focus and that's what the organization did you look at the pipeline. It's at an all time record high as Matt mentioned in his prepared comments, it's up to $4.4 billion. So it's up 31% year over year, it's only the second time, it's over $4 billion.
And I guess apart from the actual number the other thing that is impressive about it is that the trend that you saw in Q4.
The pipeline was up 9% year over year and then in Q1, the pipeline was up 13% and then Q2 and zoomed up it's up 31% on a year over year basis and accelerated in both places here and in Europe . So I feel good about what the sales organization has done in order to get our our services in front of customers and do a lot of cross selling and I feel very proud about the operations group to have a service that customers want to buy.
Brad Jacobs: It's up 31% on a year-over-year basis, accelerated in both places here and in Europe. I feel good about what the sales organization has done in order to get our services in front of customers and do a lot of cross-selling. I feel very proud about the operations group to have a service that customers want to buy.
Brad Jacobs: It's up 31% on a year-over-year basis, accelerated in both places here and in Europe. I feel good about what the sales organization has done in order to get our services in front of customers and do a lot of cross-selling. I feel very proud about the operations group to have a service that customers want to buy.
Got it and just kind of maybe related to that you put out a slide that got to do say that we are targeting an incremental profit opportunity up 700 million to a billion dollars by 2022.
[Company Representative] (XPO): Got it. Just kind of maybe related to that, you put out a slide that kind of say that you're targeting an incremental profit opportunity of $700 million to 1 billion by 2022. Can you just give us a sense of how you're going to go about that? Kind of what percentage of that opportunity? I mean, you talk about a conversion rate of your new business pipeline. Kind of is there a targeted conversion rate on that profit opportunity as well?
Ravi Shanker: Got it. Just kind of maybe related to that, you put out a slide that kind of say that you're targeting an incremental profit opportunity of $700 million to 1 billion by 2022. Can you just give us a sense of how you're going to go about that? Kind of what percentage of that opportunity? I mean, you talk about a conversion rate of your new business pipeline. Kind of is there a targeted conversion rate on that profit opportunity as well?
Can you just give us a sense of how you're going to go about that kind of what percentage of that opportunity. I mean, you talk about a conversion rate of your new business pipeline going up is that targeted conversion rate on that profit opportunity as well.
Yeah, well, you're talking about the investor deck.
Brad Jacobs: Yeah. You're talking about the investor deck?
Brad Jacobs: Yeah. You're talking about the investor deck?
Yeah somebody investor deck, yes.
[Company Representative] (XPO): Yes. I'm talking about the investor deck. Yes.
Ravi Shanker: Yes. I'm talking about the investor deck. Yes.
Brad Jacobs: Yeah. Okay. Great. Yeah. Yes. On page 10 of that investor deck, there's 10 initiatives, which is our to-do list, which is those are the things we're working on. We just shared that with the investment community. These are the 10 big levers that we're pushing and we're spending senior executive time on, and we're holding people accountable, and we're stoplighting them red, green, yellow every week and every month. In aggregate, those 10 initiatives represent a pool of profit improvement opportunity of between $700 million and $1 billion. Now, we're not going to get $1 billion from that. Just life doesn't work like that. We're going to get hundreds of millions of dollars from those initiatives. A little more than half of them are cost, and a little less than half of them are revenue-driven.
Brad Jacobs: Yeah. Okay. Great. Yeah. Yes. On page 10 of that investor deck, there's 10 initiatives, which is our to-do list, which is those are the things we're working on. We just shared that with the investment community. These are the 10 big levers that we're pushing and we're spending senior executive time on, and we're holding people accountable, and we're stoplighting them red, green, yellow every week and every month. In aggregate, those 10 initiatives represent a pool of profit improvement opportunity of between $700 million and $1 billion. Now, we're not going to get $1 billion from that. Just life doesn't work like that. We're going to get hundreds of millions of dollars from those initiatives. A little more than half of them are cost, and a little less than half of them are revenue-driven.
Yes, okay, great yeah.
So yes, I'm on page 10 of that Investor deck, There's 10 initiative.
Which is our to do list, which is those are the things. We're working on me to share that with the investment community. These are the 10 big levers that we're pushing and were spending it's a senior executive time on and we're holding people accountable and we were stopped writing them Red Green yellow every week and every month and in aggregate those 10 initiatives represent a pool of profit improvement opportunity of between $700 million and a billion dollars no no. We're not going to get a billion dollars for that just like doesn't work like that but we're going to get hundreds of millions of dollars from those initiatives and little more than half of them are costs and a little less than half of them are revenue driven so the cost ones are things like the workforce productivity tool I was mentioning before we're attacking that six and a half billion dollar labor spend we have around the world and just getting that up to world class.
Brad Jacobs: The cost ones are things like the workforce productivity tool I was mentioning before where we're attacking that $6.5 billion labor spend we have around the world and just getting that up to world-class. The revenue-driven ones are things like XPO Direct, things like the AI-based pricing. A lot of thought has gone in, and a lot of time and energy has gone into those workstreams, and we're pursuing them with great vigor.
Brad Jacobs: The cost ones are things like the workforce productivity tool I was mentioning before where we're attacking that $6.5 billion labor spend we have around the world and just getting that up to world-class. The revenue-driven ones are things like XPO Direct, things like the AI-based pricing. A lot of thought has gone in, and a lot of time and energy has gone into those workstreams, and we're pursuing them with great vigor.
And the revenue driven ones are things like ex fuel direct things like the AI based pricing and a lot of thought has gone into a lot of time and energy was gone into those work streams and we're pursuing them with a great a bigger.
Got it and just lastly, Ah matter Bad you gave us some pretty good stats on the brokerage business and the quarter I didn't hear anything on had gone can discard second award your had gone bad or in a response to a the the higher loads.
[Company Representative] (XPO): Got it. Just lastly, Matt or Brad, you gave us some pretty good stats on the brokerage business in the quarter. I didn't hear anything on headcount. Can you just clarify kind of what your headcount did in response to the higher loads?
Ravi Shanker: Got it. Just lastly, Matt or Brad, you gave us some pretty good stats on the brokerage business in the quarter. I didn't hear anything on headcount. Can you just clarify kind of what your headcount did in response to the higher loads?
It was down 6% year over year, so as you know well.
Brad Jacobs: It was down 6% year-over-year. As you know well, back to the days when Bill was covering us, Bill Green, we were the first ones to get out there and start spending tens of millions of dollars, which at the time was a lot, on updating the technology in freight brokerage. We rolled out the freight optimizer in 2011, 2012. As a result of that, we've been on a steady path, you plotted year by year since then, of getting more loads done and more profit done per person. Just a constant, continuous improvement of productivity in truck brokerage. We're able to generate more business, more profitable business, service customers better with fewer heads, and automate more and more of the process.
Brad Jacobs: It was down 6% year-over-year. As you know well, back to the days when Bill was covering us, Bill Green, we were the first ones to get out there and start spending tens of millions of dollars, which at the time was a lot, on updating the technology in freight brokerage. We rolled out the freight optimizer in 2011, 2012. As a result of that, we've been on a steady path, you plotted year by year since then, of getting more loads done and more profit done per person. Just a constant, continuous improvement of productivity in truck brokerage. We're able to generate more business, more profitable business, service customers better with fewer heads, and automate more and more of the process.
Back to the days that bill was covering us still green.
We were we were the first ones to get out there and start spending tens of millions of dollars, which at the time with a lot on updating technology in freight brokerage.
And we rolled out the freight optimizer in 2011 2012.
And as a result of that we've been on a steady path you plot it year by year since then.
Getting more loads done and more profit done per person. It's just a constant continuous improvement of productivity in truck brokerage. So we're able to generate more business more profitable business service customers better with fewer heads and automate more and more of the problem of the process.
Thanks, Brad I think Bill Greene will always be an Andre member approximation conference calls.
[Company Representative] (XPO): Thanks, Brad. I think Bill Green will always be an honorary member of transportation conference calls.
Ravi Shanker: Thanks, Brad. I think Bill Green will always be an honorary member of transportation conference calls.
Absolutely.
Brad Jacobs: Absolutely.
Brad Jacobs: Absolutely.
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Amit Malhotra with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.
Thanks, just just a quick follow up on the 702 billion profit and permanent 2022, I just want to understand how flushed out that and are you basically guiding to EBITDA of 2.5.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Thanks. Just a quick follow-up on the $700 million to 1 billion profit improvement in 2022. I just want to understand how flushed out that is. Are you basically guiding to EBITDA of $2.5 billion, a little over $2.5 billion in 2022 relative to the $1.7 billion, I guess, expected this year?
Amit Mehrotra: Thanks. Just a quick follow-up on the $700 million to 1 billion profit improvement in 2022. I just want to understand how flushed out that is. Are you basically guiding to EBITDA of $2.5 billion, a little over $2.5 billion in 2022 relative to the $1.7 billion, I guess, expected this year?
A little over 2.5 billion in 2022 relative to the 1.7 I guess expected this year.
No I'm glad you asked that question because we're not trying to make the implication that we're guiding to two and a half billion dollars EBITDA in 2022, we have not put out guidance yet for 2022.
Brad Jacobs: No. I'm glad you asked that question because we're not trying to make the implication that we're guiding to $2.5 billion EBITDA in 2022. We have not put out guidance yet for 2022. What we are sharing with you is what we're working on. These are the levers of how we're going to take the company to the next level of profitability, of efficiency, of productivity. You asked how well they've been flushed out. Very, very well flushed out. These are things we've spent enormous amount of time on strategically with the top-level of the organization, with the operating people, saying, What are the most important things we can use our collective time on to improve the profitability of the company?
Brad Jacobs: No. I'm glad you asked that question because we're not trying to make the implication that we're guiding to $2.5 billion EBITDA in 2022. We have not put out guidance yet for 2022. What we are sharing with you is what we're working on. These are the levers of how we're going to take the company to the next level of profitability, of efficiency, of productivity. You asked how well they've been flushed out. Very, very well flushed out. These are things we've spent enormous amount of time on strategically with the top-level of the organization, with the operating people, saying, What are the most important things we can use our collective time on to improve the profitability of the company?
What we we are sharing with you is what we're working on these are the levers of how we're going to take the company to the next level of profitability of efficiency and productivity. Those are you asked how well they've been fleshed out very very well fleshed out. These are things. We spent enormous amount of time on strategically with the top level of the organization with the operating people say one of the most important things we can use our collective time on to improve the profitability. The company, whether it's the Expo smart workforce productivity tools, whether it process improvement in LTL, whether it's more automation in contract logistics, whether it's more global procurement when there's more back office optimization, we can do whether it's more advanced pricing analytics or X PEO connect ex fuel direct so these are the main.
Brad Jacobs: Whether it's the XPO Smart workforce productivity tools, whether it's process improvement in LTL, whether it's more automation in contract logistics, whether it's more global procurement, whether there's more back-office optimization we can do, whether it's more advanced pricing analytics, XPO Connect, XPO Direct. These are the main lanes that we're swimming in in order to grow profitability significantly over the next several years because that's our mission. Our mission is to create shareholder value by improving the efficiency of the company. That's page 10 in that investor deck is how we're pursuing that. We're not saying these are all in the bag. They're not all in the bag. That's not the way it's going to work. We'll get a substantial portion of them.
Brad Jacobs: Whether it's the XPO Smart workforce productivity tools, whether it's process improvement in LTL, whether it's more automation in contract logistics, whether it's more global procurement, whether there's more back-office optimization we can do, whether it's more advanced pricing analytics, XPO Connect, XPO Direct. These are the main lanes that we're swimming in in order to grow profitability significantly over the next several years because that's our mission. Our mission is to create shareholder value by improving the efficiency of the company. That's page 10 in that investor deck is how we're pursuing that. We're not saying these are all in the bag. They're not all in the bag. That's not the way it's going to work. We'll get a substantial portion of them.
Main lanes that were that were swimming in in order to grow profitability significantly over the next several years because that's our mission our mission is to.
Create shareholder value by improving the efficiency of the company.
And those that page 10 in that Investor deck is how we're pursuing them, but we're not I mean these are all in the bag, they're not on the back just that's not what's going to work, but we'll get a substantial portion of them.
Okay I appreciate the clarification I'm just another follow up if I could I'm just the framework for how we think about free cash flow in 2020, I know you're not guiding to it yet which is a little bit of an anomaly because I think you guys or through your five year budgeting and you know last year you did it 12 months before last year. So one just to talk about that and to you know free cash flow to EBITDA conversion. This year is like 30, 637% embedding the new guidance is that how we should think about like the free cash conversion relative to the EBITDA growth next year or just any other puts and takes there would be appreciated.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Okay. I appreciate the clarification. Just another follow-up, if I could, on just the framework for how we think about free cash flow in 2020. I know you're not guiding to it yet, which is a little bit of an anomaly because I think you guys are through your five-year budgeting, and last year, you did it 12 months before last year. One, just to talk about that. Two, free cash flow to EBITDA conversion this year is like 36%, 37% embedding the new guidance. Is that how we should think about the free cash conversion relative to the EBITDA growth next year or just any of the puts and takes there? Would be appreciated.
Amit Mehrotra: Okay. I appreciate the clarification. Just another follow-up, if I could, on just the framework for how we think about free cash flow in 2020. I know you're not guiding to it yet, which is a little bit of an anomaly because I think you guys are through your five-year budgeting, and last year, you did it 12 months before last year. One, just to talk about that. Two, free cash flow to EBITDA conversion this year is like 36%, 37% embedding the new guidance. Is that how we should think about the free cash conversion relative to the EBITDA growth next year or just any of the puts and takes there? Would be appreciated.
We don't want to today guide to next year's free cash flow.
Brad Jacobs: We don't want to today guide to next year's free cash flow. We want to spend another quarter or two getting through this year, and then we'll put out guidance like most companies. We want to see how the macro develops. We want to see how a lot of these exciting projects that we're working on develop. What we can talk about in the here and now is this quarter's $246 million of free cash flow, which is more than double we were expecting. The reasons for that were really simple. We were disciplined on CapEx. We had lower cash taxes, and we had better cash interest than we expected. Those things all added up to about $50 million. We raised the low end of the range from $525 million to 575 million and the high end of the range from $625 million to 675 million.
Brad Jacobs: We don't want to today guide to next year's free cash flow. We want to spend another quarter or two getting through this year, and then we'll put out guidance like most companies. We want to see how the macro develops. We want to see how a lot of these exciting projects that we're working on develop. What we can talk about in the here and now is this quarter's $246 million of free cash flow, which is more than double we were expecting. The reasons for that were really simple. We were disciplined on CapEx. We had lower cash taxes, and we had better cash interest than we expected. Those things all added up to about $50 million. We raised the low end of the range from $525 million to 575 million and the high end of the range from $625 million to 675 million.
We want to spend another quarter to getting through this year and then put out guidance.
Like most companies want to see how the macro develops want to see how a lot of these.
Exciting projects that we're working on developing what we can talk about in the here and now is this quarter's $246 million or free cash flow, which is more than double we were expecting but the reasons for that were really simple we were disciplined on capex.
We had lower cash taxes.
And we had better cash interest than we expected. So those things all added up to about $50 million. So we raised the low end of the range from $525 million.
The $575 million and the high end of the range from $625 million to $675 million. That's how we're looking at the free cash flow now and that's how we're looking at free cash flow for this year and when we do our budgeting for next year and we're ready with a confidence to give you guidance, we'll give you guidance.
Brad Jacobs: That's how we're looking at the free cash flow now, and that's how we're looking at free cash flow for this year. When we do our budgeting for next year and we're ready with confidence to give you guidance, we'll give you guidance.
Brad Jacobs: That's how we're looking at the free cash flow now, and that's how we're looking at free cash flow for this year. When we do our budgeting for next year and we're ready with confidence to give you guidance, we'll give you guidance.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Okay. That's fair. Just one last quick one for me just because you brought up the macro. Europe is 40% of the business. There's been some recent developments vis-à-vis Brexit, the macro indicators in Germany particularly. I know you don't have a lot of business there, but generally, it's not great. Just talk about how the EBITDA and cash flow guidance is sensitized to the various scenarios around Europe for the back half of the year because there's just a lot of moving parts there.
Amit Mehrotra: Okay. That's fair. Just one last quick one for me just because you brought up the macro. Europe is 40% of the business. There's been some recent developments vis-à-vis Brexit, the macro indicators in Germany particularly. I know you don't have a lot of business there, but generally, it's not great. Just talk about how the EBITDA and cash flow guidance is sensitized to the various scenarios around Europe for the back half of the year because there's just a lot of moving parts there.
Okay. That's fair I'm just one last quick one for me just on just you brought up the macro you know Europe is 40% of the business. There's been some recent developments vis-a-vis Brexit the macro indicators and Germany, particularly I know you don't have a lot of business there, but generally it's not great. You know just just talk about how the EBITDA and cash flow guidance is sensitized to the various scenarios around Europe for the back half of the year, because there's a lot of moving parts there.
Well, you're right, Germany, Sadly, we don't have a lot of business in Germany, which we did we don't.
Brad Jacobs: Well, you're right. Sadly, we don't have a lot of business in Germany. We wish we did, but we don't.
Brad Jacobs: Well, you're right. Sadly, we don't have a lot of business in Germany. We wish we did, but we don't.
All right.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): It's a good barometer for.
Amit Mehrotra: It's a good barometer for.
It's a good parameter for them, it's a bird good barometer for though for general European activity.
Brad Jacobs: It's a good barometer, though, for general European activity. It is. They have I was with a senior banker from Germany recently who had good insights on what's going on there. He was explaining to me politically what's going on. There's a kind of they're stuck. I don't know whether their specific circumstances are really applicable to the rest of the EU and what may end up being not part of the EU. In any case, it's a little bit of a moot point for us because we don't have a lot of business in Germany. We do have the preponderance of our business in the UK, in France, and to a lesser extent, in Spain. The GDP in those countries has been about flat in Q2 versus Q1. It hasn't gotten worse. It certainly hasn't gotten better.
Brad Jacobs: It's a good barometer, though, for general European activity. It is. They have I was with a senior banker from Germany recently who had good insights on what's going on there. He was explaining to me politically what's going on. There's a kind of they're stuck. I don't know whether their specific circumstances are really applicable to the rest of the EU and what may end up being not part of the EU. In any case, it's a little bit of a moot point for us because we don't have a lot of business in Germany. We do have the preponderance of our business in the UK, in France, and to a lesser extent, in Spain. The GDP in those countries has been about flat in Q2 versus Q1. It hasn't gotten worse. It certainly hasn't gotten better.
Oh It is but you know they have I was with a senior banker from Germany recently, who had good insights and what's going on there and he was explained to me politically what's going on is this a kind of a their their stock. So I don't know whether their specific circumstances are really applicable to the rest of the E U and what may end up being not part of the you but in any case it live a moot point for US we don't have a lot of business in Germany. We do have the preponderance of our business in the UK in France and to a lesser extent extent in Spain, and the GDP in those countries.
[noise] has been about flat in Q2 versus Q1, it hasn't gotten worse, certainly haven't gotten better it's been weak and it continues to be weak, but about the same level of weakness what's more week is FX the euros getting weve gotten weaker in the pounds gotten weaker as the dollar has gotten stronger and you know that's hurt us on the on the foreign exchange translation from euros and pounds to dollars but.
Brad Jacobs: It's been weak, and it continues to be weak, but about the same level of weakness. What's more weak is the FX. The euro's gotten weaker, and the pound's gotten weaker as the dollar's gotten stronger. That's hurt us on the foreign exchange translation from euros and pounds to dollars. E-commerce is strong everywhere, including in Europe and including in all the countries we operate in Europe. We're the largest e-fulfillment platform, 3PL, in Europe. That business grew 20% in Q2 on a year-over-year basis. I mean, not all of our parts of our business are growing anything close to that. If you have a broad enough platform like we do, you can zig and zag and put resources and capital and people and energy on the places that's working and to downsize in the places that's not working.
Brad Jacobs: It's been weak, and it continues to be weak, but about the same level of weakness. What's more weak is the FX. The euro's gotten weaker, and the pound's gotten weaker as the dollar's gotten stronger. That's hurt us on the foreign exchange translation from euros and pounds to dollars. E-commerce is strong everywhere, including in Europe and including in all the countries we operate in Europe. We're the largest e-fulfillment platform, 3PL, in Europe. That business grew 20% in Q2 on a year-over-year basis. I mean, not all of our parts of our business are growing anything close to that. If you have a broad enough platform like we do, you can zig and zag and put resources and capital and people and energy on the places that's working and to downsize in the places that's not working.
No. He commerce is strong everywhere, including in Europe , and including all the countries we operate in Europe .
And we're the largest you fulfillment plot threepl in Europe and that business. This is grew 20% in the second quarter on a year over year basis, I mean, not all of our parts of our business and growing anything close to that but there's if you have a broad enough platform like we do.
You can zigzag and find and put resources.
And capital and people and energy on the places, it's working and to downsize the places that not working so I feel the team is doing a good job there at dealing with a very soft environment.
Brad Jacobs: I feel the team is doing a good job there at dealing with a very soft environment.
Brad Jacobs: I feel the team is doing a good job there at dealing with a very soft environment.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Okay. Great. That sounds good. Thanks, everybody. Congrats on the traction, and have a good weekend. Thank you.
Amit Mehrotra: Okay. Great. That sounds good. Thanks, everybody. Congrats on the traction, and have a good weekend. Thank you.
Okay, Great. That's sounds good thanks, everybody congrats on the traction and have a good weekend. Thank you.
Thank you Sir.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you, sir.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you, sir.
Our next question that's from the line of Brandon Oglenski with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.
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Hey, good morning, everyone and thanks for taking my question branding I don't think I heard it mentioned today, but could you just update us on where we are in the CFO search and.
[Analyst] (Barclays): Hey. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my question. Brad.
Brandon Oglenski: Hey. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my question. Brad.
Brad Jacobs: Morning.
Brad Jacobs: Morning.
[Analyst] (Barclays): I heard it mentioned today, could you just update us on where we are in the CFO search? I find it a little odd because most public companies of this size, I don't think, would have a vacancy that long. Is this just not as important as we should be thinking about it, or what is the delay?
Brandon Oglenski: I heard it mentioned today, could you just update us on where we are in the CFO search? I find it a little odd because most public companies of this size, I don't think, would have a vacancy that long. Is this just not as important as we should be thinking about it, or what is the delay?
You know I find it a little odd because most public companies of this size I don't think would have a vacancy that long so.
Like is this just not as important as we should be thinking about it or like what is the delay.
Well the finance accounting organization is working very well.
Brad Jacobs: Well, the finance and accounting organization is working very well. While we haven't hired a permanent CFO, we have hired new first-class heads of tax, of real estate, and of corporate shared services, three excellent hires. You actually saw results from those hires here in the quarter. The search is ongoing for a CFO. When we find the right person, we'll hire him, and we'll let you know right away. As of now, the search continues.
Brad Jacobs: Well, the finance and accounting organization is working very well. While we haven't hired a permanent CFO, we have hired new first-class heads of tax, of real estate, and of corporate shared services, three excellent hires. You actually saw results from those hires here in the quarter. The search is ongoing for a CFO. When we find the right person, we'll hire him, and we'll let you know right away. As of now, the search continues.
And while we haven't heard a permanent CFO , we have hired new first class has attacks of real estate and a corporate shared services three excellent hires and you actually saw result from those hires here in the quarter.
And the search is ongoing for a CFO and when we find the right person well higher than what you know right away, but as of now the search continues.
Okay, but we shouldn't be reading anything negative into spend right.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Okay. We shouldn't be reading anything negative into this then, right?
Brandon Oglenski: Okay. We shouldn't be reading anything negative into this then, right?
Absolutely not I do something positive into it that the company is strong is well organized.
Brad Jacobs: Absolutely not. I'd read something positive into it, that the company is strong, is well-organized, and has matured, developed systems in finance accounting that are working very well with a very large team of great finance accountant professionals globally. Sarah is doing a great job at leading it on an interim basis. We don't feel a gun to our head to hire the wrong CFO. We want to hire the right CFO. When that CFO comes across us, we'll hire her or him.
Brad Jacobs: Absolutely not. I'd read something positive into it, that the company is strong, is well-organized, and has matured, developed systems in finance accounting that are working very well with a very large team of great finance accountant professionals globally. Sarah is doing a great job at leading it on an interim basis. We don't feel a gun to our head to hire the wrong CFO. We want to hire the right CFO. When that CFO comes across us, we'll hire her or him.
And has.
Mature developed systems and finance accounting that are working very well with a very large team of great financing counter professionals globally.
And Sarah is doing a great job that a leading it on an interim basis, and we don't feel a gun to our head to hire the wrong CFO , we want to hire the right CFO when that CFO comes across as well higher her or him.
Okay I appreciate that.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Okay. Appreciate that. On free cash flow, Matt, I think you mentioned that you're going to have $50 million cash flow from excess office space that you're selling this year. I guess in a broader context, when we walk from EBITDA to free cash flow, how is working capital impacting that this year? Because with a lower revenue growth rate, we would expect working capital to become at least maybe neutral, or am I thinking about this the wrong way?
Brandon Oglenski: Okay. Appreciate that. On free cash flow, Matt, I think you mentioned that you're going to have $50 million cash flow from excess office space that you're selling this year. I guess in a broader context, when we walk from EBITDA to free cash flow, how is working capital impacting that this year? Because with a lower revenue growth rate, we would expect working capital to become at least maybe neutral, or am I thinking about this the wrong way?
And on free cash flow I'm, Matt I think you mentioned that you're going to have a you know 50 million.
Cashflow from excess office space that you're selling this year, but I guess in a broader context.
When we walk from EBITDA to free cash flow.
I was working capital impact in that this year because the you know what the lower revenue growth rate, we would expect working capital to become at least maybe neutral or am I thinking about the strong way.
Well, we do expect a stronger organic revenue growth in the second half of the year.
Brad Jacobs: Well, we do expect stronger organic revenue growth in the second half of the year than we registered in the first half of the year and stronger overall revenue growth in the second half of the year than in the first half of the year. We have working capital in our model as a modest use of cash. Obviously, we'll strive to do better than that, and we're very focused on that from an operational perspective every day.
Brad Jacobs: Well, we do expect stronger organic revenue growth in the second half of the year than we registered in the first half of the year and stronger overall revenue growth in the second half of the year than in the first half of the year. We have working capital in our model as a modest use of cash. Obviously, we'll strive to do better than that, and we're very focused on that from an operational perspective every day.
Then we registered in the first half of the year and stronger overall revenue growth.
In the second half of the year than in the first half of the year. So we had a working capital I in our model.
As a modest use of cash obviously, we will strive to do better than that and we're very focused on that from an operational perspective every day.
Okay, and then lastly, it does look like your North American.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Okay. Lastly, it does look like your North American logistics business took a step down, and I think that might have been associated with your large customer leaving. Can you talk about some of the initiatives you have there and the pipeline to potentially replace that size of business and how long that could take?
Brandon Oglenski: Okay. Lastly, it does look like your North American logistics business took a step down, and I think that might have been associated with your large customer leaving. Can you talk about some of the initiatives you have there and the pipeline to potentially replace that size of business and how long that could take?
Logistics business took a step down and I think that might have been associated with you know your large customer, leaving can you talk about some of the initiatives you have there and the pipeline to potentially you know replace that size the business and how long that could take.
Sure I'll start on that.
Brad Jacobs: Sure. I'll start on that. We did register some deceleration in revenue growth in Q2 from Q1. Most of that related to the downsizing of business from our largest customer. In terms of replenishing the pipeline, the pipeline in North American supply chain is very strong. New business winds in North American supply chain are strong. We remain very focused, as we have been, on closing new business in that segment.
Brad Jacobs: Sure. I'll start on that. We did register some deceleration in revenue growth in Q2 from Q1. Most of that related to the downsizing of business from our largest customer. In terms of replenishing the pipeline, the pipeline in North American supply chain is very strong. New business winds in North American supply chain are strong. We remain very focused, as we have been, on closing new business in that segment.
We did a register some deceleration in revenue growth in Q2 from Q1, most of that related to the downsizing of business from our largest customer in terms of replenishing the pipeline out of the pipeline in North American supply chain is very strong new business wins in north and North American supply chain are strong and we remain very focused as we have been on closing new business in that segment.
Okay. Thank you.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Okay. Thank you.
Brandon Oglenski: Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you.
Our next question is from the line of Kevin Sterling with Seaport Global. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Kevin Sterling with C4 Global. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Kevin Sterling with C4 Global. Please proceed with your questions.
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[Analyst] (C4 Global): Good morning, Brad. Matt and Davio.
Kevin Sterling: Good morning, Brad. Matt and Davio.
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Brad Jacobs: Good morning.
Brad Jacobs: Good morning.
[Analyst] (C4 Global): Good morning.
Kevin Sterling: Good morning.
Brad Jacobs: You guys, I know you touched on the real estate gains, and Matt, you mentioned selling an office property. Brad, maybe what we've seen so far to start the year, is that a function of you guys streamlining operations, selling off unprofitable terminals? Essentially, are you at the point where you can do more with less as a function of all of your technology initiatives?
Brad Jacobs: You guys, I know you touched on the real estate gains, and Matt, you mentioned selling an office property. Brad, maybe what we've seen so far to start the year, is that a function of you guys streamlining operations, selling off unprofitable terminals? Essentially, are you at the point where you can do more with less as a function of all of your technology initiatives?
Yeah, I was and I know you touched on the real estate gains and Matt you mentioned selling an office property, but.
Brad maybe what we've seen so far to start the year is that a function. If you got a streamlining operations selling of unprofitable terminals.
Essentially are you are you at the point, where you can do more with less as a function of all the your technology initiatives.
Well, we're always trying to figure out ways to make money for our shareholders. Since that's our goal and we have.
[Analyst] (C4 Global): Well, we're always trying to figure out ways to make money for our shareholders since that's our goal. We have almost $1 billion of market value of real estate that we own. We're looking at what's utilized, what's underutilized, what can be combined where we have 2 facilities that aren't fully utilized. Can we put them together? The office building that Matt mentioned is about half empty, and we've got a real nice profit embedded in that if we sold it. We're going to sell it. Maybe the street will give us credit for it. Maybe it won't, but we'll take the cash. It doesn't make sense to keep an underutilized building. That's just part of our general program of continuously improving the company to find waste, to find inefficiencies.
Kevin Sterling: Well, we're always trying to figure out ways to make money for our shareholders since that's our goal. We have almost $1 billion of market value of real estate that we own. We're looking at what's utilized, what's underutilized, what can be combined where we have 2 facilities that aren't fully utilized. Can we put them together? The office building that Matt mentioned is about half empty, and we've got a real nice profit embedded in that if we sold it. We're going to sell it. Maybe the street will give us credit for it. Maybe it won't, but we'll take the cash. It doesn't make sense to keep an underutilized building. That's just part of our general program of continuously improving the company to find waste, to find inefficiencies.
Almost a billion dollars of our market value of real estate real estate that we own.
And we're looking at what's utilize what's under utilized what can be combined where we have two facilities that aren't fully utilized we put them together on the <unk> The office building that Matt mentioned.
It's about half empty and we got a real nice.
Profit embedded in that if we sold it so we're going to sell it maybe the street will give us credit for maybe it won't but well take the cash you don't if it doesn't make sense to keep underutilized or building and you know that's that's just part of our general program of continuously improving the company to find ways to find inefficiencies and we've got a long way to go. So we have no inefficiencies no waste in the organization, including in our real estate portfolio.
[Analyst] (C4 Global): We've got a long way to go till we have no inefficiencies and no waste in the organization, including in our real estate portfolio. Okay. Great. Thank you. Brad, you talked about.
Kevin Sterling: We've got a long way to go till we have no inefficiencies and no waste in the organization, including in our real estate portfolio. Okay. Great. Thank you. Brad, you talked about.
Okay, great. Thank you and Brad you're talking about <unk> Yep.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you.
[Analyst] (C4 Global): Yep. You talked about getting to $1 billion in EBITDA in 2021 for LTL. Is that based upon current market conditions? If things were to deteriorate from here further, can you still get to that $1 billion number by pulling some of these levers you've talked about if market conditions deteriorate?
Kevin Sterling: Yep. You talked about getting to $1 billion in EBITDA in 2021 for LTL. Is that based upon current market conditions? If things were to deteriorate from here further, can you still get to that $1 billion number by pulling some of these levers you've talked about if market conditions deteriorate?
You talked about getting to a billion dollars in EBITDA in 2021 for LTL is that based upon current market conditions.
If things were deteriorate from here further can you still get to that $1 billion, a number but pulling you know somebody's loved levers you've talked about.
If market conditions jure I don't think I, if we went into a recession, a particularly it was a deep.
Brad Jacobs: If we went into a recession, particularly if it was a deep and long recession, no, we would not be able to get to $1 billion in EBITDA by 2021. The math doesn't work. If we stay in this kind of if between now and then, on average, we have this kind of sluggish environment like we've had for the last three or so quarters, yeah, we can get there. We can absolutely get there. We can get there through working on the technology projects, on the labor tools. We can get there on the P&D optimization and picking up more freight with fewer trucks and less labor. We can get there through the computer-based price discovery and understanding with greater detail the elasticity of pricing and where is the exact Goldilocks amount of pricing versus the tonnage tradeoff.
Brad Jacobs: If we went into a recession, particularly if it was a deep and long recession, no, we would not be able to get to $1 billion in EBITDA by 2021. The math doesn't work. If we stay in this kind of if between now and then, on average, we have this kind of sluggish environment like we've had for the last three or so quarters, yeah, we can get there. We can absolutely get there. We can get there through working on the technology projects, on the labor tools. We can get there on the P&D optimization and picking up more freight with fewer trucks and less labor. We can get there through the computer-based price discovery and understanding with greater detail the elasticity of pricing and where is the exact Goldilocks amount of pricing versus the tonnage tradeoff.
And long recession, no, we would not be able to get to $1 billion EBITDA by 2021, the math doesn't work.
But if we stay in this kind of it between now and then on average we have this kind of sluggish environment like we've had for the last three or so quarters. Yeah. We get there we absolutely get there we can get there through working on the technology projects on the labor tools, we can get there on a the PNG optimization and picking up more freight with less with fewer trucks and less labor. We can get there through the computer based price discovery and understanding with greater detail elasticity of pricing and where is the exact goldilocks amount of pricing versus the tonnage trade off we can get there through attacking the $1.3 billion you spend in line haul and use the new line haul modeling technologies that were building to build more pure runs increase load factor in to take out empty miles. So those technologies together with just run.
Brad Jacobs: We can get there through attacking the $1.3 billion a year we spend in line haul, use the new line haul modeling technologies that we're building to build more pure runs, to increase load factor, and to take out empty miles. Those technologies, together with just running the business better and better every month and every quarter than the previous month and quarter, should get us to $1 billion of EBITDA in LTL by 2021. We feel very good about that projection.
Brad Jacobs: We can get there through attacking the $1.3 billion a year we spend in line haul, use the new line haul modeling technologies that we're building to build more pure runs, to increase load factor, and to take out empty miles. Those technologies, together with just running the business better and better every month and every quarter than the previous month and quarter, should get us to $1 billion of EBITDA in LTL by 2021. We feel very good about that projection.
I mean, the business better and better every month and every quarter than the previous month and quarter.
Should get us to a billion dollars of EBITDA in LTL by 2021, we feel very good about that projection.
Okay, Great and then last question and you touched on this on but if I could dig a little bit deeper into it. If you don't mind all your technology initiatives that you implement implementing obviously your working Mario pretty hard.
[Analyst] (C4 Global): Okay. Great. Last question, and you touched on this some, but if I could dig a little bit deeper into it, if you don't mind. All your technology initiatives that you're implementing. Obviously, you're working Mario pretty hard. You get some immediate cost benefits, it seemed like. Down the road, is your objective to win new business? Is it to capitalize on organic growth? Obviously, you talked about your organic growth pipeline. How should we think about after you realize these cost benefits? Is it market share gains? Is it organic growth, or maybe it's both?
Kevin Sterling: Okay. Great. Last question, and you touched on this some, but if I could dig a little bit deeper into it, if you don't mind. All your technology initiatives that you're implementing. Obviously, you're working Mario pretty hard. You get some immediate cost benefits, it seemed like. Down the road, is your objective to win new business? Is it to capitalize on organic growth? Obviously, you talked about your organic growth pipeline. How should we think about after you realize these cost benefits? Is it market share gains? Is it organic growth, or maybe it's both?
You know you get some immediate cost benefits it seemed like but then you go down. The road you is your objective to win new business is capitalize on organic growth. Obviously, you talked about your organic growth pipeline.
You know how should we think about you. After you realize these cost benefits, it's a market share gains in organic growth or maybe it's both.
The what we're trying to accomplish in technology is too.
Brad Jacobs: What we're trying to accomplish in technology is to take out waste in the organization so that we can serve our customers, our mission to our customers, to move their goods through their supply chain more efficiently, more cost-effectively. How can we increase labor productivity? How can we use technology to shorten distribution cycles and increase fulfillment speed? How can our tech increase order accuracy and inventory accuracy? How can we reduce stocking costs? How can we make return logistics more efficient, which is one of the most fastest parts of the business that we have? How can we enhance safety so we have fewer injuries and fewer accidents and fewer fatalities? Big picture, trying to use technology to run the business better and to wow the customer with capabilities that differentiate us from our competition.
Brad Jacobs: What we're trying to accomplish in technology is to take out waste in the organization so that we can serve our customers, our mission to our customers, to move their goods through their supply chain more efficiently, more cost-effectively. How can we increase labor productivity? How can we use technology to shorten distribution cycles and increase fulfillment speed? How can our tech increase order accuracy and inventory accuracy? How can we reduce stocking costs? How can we make return logistics more efficient, which is one of the most fastest parts of the business that we have? How can we enhance safety so we have fewer injuries and fewer accidents and fewer fatalities? Big picture, trying to use technology to run the business better and to wow the customer with capabilities that differentiate us from our competition.
Take out waste in the organization so that we can.
Serve our customers our mission to our customers to move their goods through their supply chain more efficiently more cost effectively.
So how can we increase labor productivity, how we use technology to shorten distribution cycles and increased fulfillment speed.
How can our Tac increased order accuracy and inventory accuracy, how can we reduce docking costs, how can we make return logistics more efficient which is.
One of the most fastest or parts of the business that we have.
How can we enhance safety so we have fewer injuries and fewer accidents and fewer fatalities. So big picture trying to use technology to run the business better and to Wow, the customer with tech with capabilities that differentiate us from our competition.
And if you look at it from one of the channels that were doing it goes in automation and robotics. So all the Cobots order Bonnie arms. It goes in big data, which are the AI based pricing algorithms, we can forecast customer demand and predict labor better and improve network utilization and it goes to enriching the customer experience.
Brad Jacobs: If you look at it from what are the channels that we're doing, it goes in automation and robotics, all the cobots, all robotic arms. It goes in big data, which are the AI-based pricing algorithms so we can forecast customer demand and predict labor better and improve network utilization. It goes to enriching the customer experience. The whole digital freight marketplace, which we pioneered, and transacting automatically in real time and getting online scheduling and rescheduling of pickups and deliveries and having real-time, customized, automated track and trace. Those are the kinds of projects that we're working on. Mario and his now 1,800 tech professionals are just doing a great job.
Brad Jacobs: If you look at it from what are the channels that we're doing, it goes in automation and robotics, all the cobots, all robotic arms. It goes in big data, which are the AI-based pricing algorithms so we can forecast customer demand and predict labor better and improve network utilization. It goes to enriching the customer experience. The whole digital freight marketplace, which we pioneered, and transacting automatically in real time and getting online scheduling and rescheduling of pickups and deliveries and having real-time, customized, automated track and trace. Those are the kinds of projects that we're working on. Mario and his now 1,800 tech professionals are just doing a great job.
Whole digital freight marketplace, which we pioneered.
And transacting automatically in real time, and getting online scheduling and rescheduling of pickup and deliveries and having real time customized automated track and trace.
Those are the kinds of projects that were working on Mario and is now 1800 tech professionals and just doing a great job.
Yeah, No no great I really appreciate that thanks for your time this morning, congrats on a solid quarter.
[Analyst] (C4 Global): No, no. Great. I really appreciate that. Thanks for your time this morning, and congrats on a solid quarter.
Kevin Sterling: No, no. Great. I really appreciate that. Thanks for your time this morning, and congrats on a solid quarter.
Thank you Kevin.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you, Kevin.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you, Kevin.
Our next question is from the line of Allison Landry with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Alison Landry with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Alison Landry with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.
Good morning, Thanks for squeezing me in Brad I think you mentioned earlier in the call something about prepayment penalties. So just curious how much of your total debt does that apply to and how should we think about your ability to reduce gross leverage over the next year or two.
[Analyst] (Credit Suisse): Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Brad, I think you mentioned earlier in the call something about prepayment penalties. Just curious, how much of your total debt does that apply to, and how should we think about your ability to reduce growth leverage over the next year or two?
Allison Landry: Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Brad, I think you mentioned earlier in the call something about prepayment penalties. Just curious, how much of your total debt does that apply to, and how should we think about your ability to reduce growth leverage over the next year or two?
Okay on the leverage we were at 3.2 net debt to adjusted EBITDA at quarter end improved slightly from 3.3 times on March at March 30 Onest.
Brad Jacobs: Okay. On the leverage, we were at 3.2 net debt to just EBITDA at quarter end, improved slightly from 3.3 times at 31 March 2019. We expect leverage in a base case scenario to move back to about 2.7 times by year-end as we generate more cash flow from operations, as we grow the EBITDA base. The majority of our debt is fixed in nature. It's mostly high yield, and you can't prepay it just without tendering for that and paying something for it. We do have the ABL, which we can always move up and down. We do have the term loan, which we can always prepay without penalty. The vast majority of our debt is high yield. I'm happy that our high yield is not so high as it was before.
Brad Jacobs: Okay. On the leverage, we were at 3.2 net debt to just EBITDA at quarter end, improved slightly from 3.3 times at 31 March 2019. We expect leverage in a base case scenario to move back to about 2.7 times by year-end as we generate more cash flow from operations, as we grow the EBITDA base. The majority of our debt is fixed in nature. It's mostly high yield, and you can't prepay it just without tendering for that and paying something for it. We do have the ABL, which we can always move up and down. We do have the term loan, which we can always prepay without penalty. The vast majority of our debt is high yield. I'm happy that our high yield is not so high as it was before.
We expect leverage in a base case scenario to move back to about 2.7 times by year end as we generate more cash flow from operations as we grow the EBITDA base.
The majority of our debt is fixed in nature, it's mostly high yield and you can't prepay it just without tendering for that and pay something for it or we do other yell at which we can always move up and down and we do have the term loan, which we can always prepay without penalty, but the vast majority of our debt is high yield I'm happy that our high yield is not so high as it was before is now yielding about four and three quarters percent, partly due to the debt markets being great partly because we're executing we are performing so no. That's the structure of our debt complex.
Brad Jacobs: It's now yielding about 4.75%, partly due to the debt markets being great and partly because we're executing. We're performing. That's the structure of our debt complex.
Brad Jacobs: It's now yielding about 4.75%, partly due to the debt markets being great and partly because we're executing. We're performing. That's the structure of our debt complex.
Okay. That's that's really helpful.
[Analyst] (Credit Suisse): Okay. That's really helpful. Just in light of the recent announcement that some companies are shutting down their last-mile operations, is there an opportunity for you guys to pick up some share there? Maybe if you could just comment more broadly on the competitive landscape in last-mile. Thank you.
Allison Landry: Okay. That's really helpful. Just in light of the recent announcement that some companies are shutting down their last-mile operations, is there an opportunity for you guys to pick up some share there? Maybe if you could just comment more broadly on the competitive landscape in last-mile. Thank you.
And then just in light of the recent announcement that some companies are shutting down their last mile operation is there an opportunity for you guys to pick up some share there and maybe if you could just comment more broadly on the competitive landscape and last mile. Thank you.
We're doing well in last mile and we won $58 million of new business in the second quarter last mile that was the second best quarter ever for new last mile wins and that file that followed the first quarter, we had a record wins there too. So this first half building up the business is looking good the pipeline is up 150, some odd percent year over year, it's almost $300 million, we still are though recuperating from the loss of our largest customer and the postal injection business. We haven't made that up yet, we're making great great progress.
Brad Jacobs: We're doing well in last-mile, and we won $58 million of new business in Q2 in last-mile. That was the second-best quarter ever for new last-mile wins. That followed Q1. We had a record wins there too. The first half, building up the business, is looking good. The pipeline is up 150-some-odd% year-over-year. It's almost $300 million. We still are, though, recuperating from the loss of our largest customer in the postal injection business. We haven't made that up yet. We're making great progress replacing it. We're also managing costs effectively in last-mile. You see that the net revenue margin was a little over 34% in the quarter, and that was an improvement of 390 basis points. It was an improvement year-over-year. It was an improvement of about 30 basis points sequentially.
Brad Jacobs: We're doing well in last-mile, and we won $58 million of new business in Q2 in last-mile. That was the second-best quarter ever for new last-mile wins. That followed Q1. We had a record wins there too. The first half, building up the business, is looking good. The pipeline is up 150-some-odd% year-over-year. It's almost $300 million. We still are, though, recuperating from the loss of our largest customer in the postal injection business. We haven't made that up yet. We're making great progress replacing it. We're also managing costs effectively in last-mile. You see that the net revenue margin was a little over 34% in the quarter, and that was an improvement of 390 basis points. It was an improvement year-over-year. It was an improvement of about 30 basis points sequentially.
Replacing it we're also managing cost effectively in last mile or you see that the net revenue margin was little over 34% in the quarter and that was an improvement of 390 basis points and it was an improvement on a year over year improvement about 30 basis points sequentially. It was our best net revenue margin of any quarter. Since we entered last mile six years ago. So I can't speak to how competitors are doing I'm I'm, assuming some competitors are doing very well in from competitors aren't we're doing very well I'm happy to say.
Brad Jacobs: It was our best net revenue margin of any quarter since we entered last-mile six years ago. I can't speak to how competitors are doing. I'm assuming some competitors are doing very well, and some competitors aren't. We're doing very well, I'm happy to say.
Brad Jacobs: It was our best net revenue margin of any quarter since we entered last-mile six years ago. I can't speak to how competitors are doing. I'm assuming some competitors are doing very well, and some competitors aren't. We're doing very well, I'm happy to say.
Okay. Thank you guys.
[Analyst] (Credit Suisse): Okay. Thank you, guys.
Allison Landry: Okay. Thank you, guys.
Thank you Allison.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you, Alison.
Brad Jacobs: Thank you, Alison.
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[Analyst] (Oppenheimer): Thanks. Good morning. You guys addressed contract logistics and some top-line thoughts on an earlier question. Just curious, Brad or Matt, if you could provide a little perspective on how you view margin trending in the logistics segment over coming quarters.
Scott Schneeberger: Thanks. Good morning. You guys addressed contract logistics and some top-line thoughts on an earlier question. Just curious, Brad or Matt, if you could provide a little perspective on how you view margin trending in the logistics segment over coming quarters.
Hi, Thanks, good morning.
You guys are addressed a contract logistics and some some ah topline thoughts on an earlier question just curious Brad or Matt If you could provide a little perspective on how you view margin trending in the logistics segment, so over coming quarters.
Sure.
Brad Jacobs: Sure. As I said in our earlier remarks, contract logistics EBITDA margins would have been stronger if you added back the impact of our largest customer downsizing and the translation impact of FX. As you move through the rest of the year, keep in mind that we had House of Fraser last year in Q3. That impeded our Q3 EBITDA margin last year. We would expect contract logistics margins in line with or better than year-ago numbers in the second half of the year embedded in our guidance.
Brad Jacobs: Sure. As I said in our earlier remarks, contract logistics EBITDA margins would have been stronger if you added back the impact of our largest customer downsizing and the translation impact of FX. As you move through the rest of the year, keep in mind that we had House of Fraser last year in Q3. That impeded our Q3 EBITDA margin last year. We would expect contract logistics margins in line with or better than year-ago numbers in the second half of the year embedded in our guidance.
As I said in our earlier remarks.
Contract logistics EBITDA margins would have been stronger if you added back.
The impact of our largest customer downsizing and the translation impact of FX as you move through the rest of the year keep in mind that we add house of Fraser last year in Q3 that impeded our Q3 EBITDA margin last year, but we would expect a contract logistics margins in line with or better.
Then your go numbers in the second half of the year embedded in our guidance.
Great. Thanks for that similar type question with regard to the cadence of free cash flow in the back half and particularly focus on capex the mix of categories driving Capex, how you feel you're pacing versus about when the high end of the of the guidance range and then just just how that how that stresses out a threeq versus fourq. Thanks.
[Analyst] (Oppenheimer): Great. Thanks for that. A similar type question with regard to the cadence of free cash flow in the back half and particularly focus on CapEx, the mix of categories driving CapEx, how you feel your pacing versus low-end, high-end of the guidance range, and then just how that susses out Q3 versus Q4. Thanks.
Scott Schneeberger: Great. Thanks for that. A similar type question with regard to the cadence of free cash flow in the back half and particularly focus on CapEx, the mix of categories driving CapEx, how you feel your pacing versus low-end, high-end of the guidance range, and then just how that susses out Q3 versus Q4. Thanks.
Sure so.
Brad Jacobs: Sure. If you think about free cash flow through the rest of the year, we don't provide guidance by quarter per se, but the quarters won't be that different. Q4 likely stronger than Q3 or bigger than Q3 in terms of total free cash flow dollars. As we think about CapEx, as I said in my earlier remarks, I believe one of the reasons free cash flow was substantially higher in Q2 related to timing of CapEx. You will see gross CapEx most likely higher in Q3 than in either Q1 or Q2 or than it was in Q3 a year ago. That should help bridge you to the total gross CapEx number for the year.
Brad Jacobs: Sure. If you think about free cash flow through the rest of the year, we don't provide guidance by quarter per se, but the quarters won't be that different. Q4 likely stronger than Q3 or bigger than Q3 in terms of total free cash flow dollars. As we think about CapEx, as I said in my earlier remarks, I believe one of the reasons free cash flow was substantially higher in Q2 related to timing of CapEx. You will see gross CapEx most likely higher in Q3 than in either Q1 or Q2 or than it was in Q3 a year ago. That should help bridge you to the total gross CapEx number for the year.
If you think about free cash flow through the rest of the year, we don't provide guidance by quarter per se.
But the corridors won't be that different Q4 likely stronger than Q3 are bigger than Q3.
In terms of up in terms of total free cash flow dollars and then as we think about Capex I as I said in my earlier remarks, I believe a one of the reasons free cash flow was substantially higher in Q2 related to timing of Capex. So you will see gross capex most likely higher in Q3, then in either Q1 or Q2 or than it was in Q3.
A year ago, so that should help bridge you to the total gross capex number for the year.
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