Q2 2019 Earnings Call

Good afternoon My name is Kelly.

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Second quarter earnings Conference call.

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Thank you Kelly.

Hi, good afternoon, everybody and welcome to our second quarter 2019 earnings call.

We're pleased to report our results joining me on the call today are equal, Spain, founder CEO and chair of the board.

And Elaina Gomez, our Chief Financial Officer during the course of todays call. We may make forward looking statements such as statements regarding our future financial performance product development growth prospects ability to attract and retain customers and ability to compete effectively.

The assumptions risks and factors that could affect our actual results are contained in our earnings press release and in the risk factor section of our prior and subsequent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our quarterly report on Form 10-Q .

For the past quarter March 31, 2018, and our upcoming quarterly report on Form 10-Q for June 32019.

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With that intro I'm going to turn the call over to Mikkel Yep.

Thank you so much mark and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining US Q2 was another quarter of high growth for us with revenue increasing 37% year over year, we continued to see strong demand for our products across both small and mid sized businesses and also in the enterprise.

And we also believe that our rapid introduction of new products new offerings since late last year late last year.

Has really set us up well for the future a future ambitions to be a multi billion dollar revenue company.

In the enterprise, we saw good uptick in the percentage of our recurring revenue that comes from Hunter plus seat implementations. As a reminder, this all proxy for enterprise progress it rose to 42% in Q2 up 19 up four points year over year and two points quarter over quarter.

Momentum around the send a suite.

Really continues to play a key role in our growth Omnichannel offering which brings together, though coal customer service products and channels has become a key differentiator for us and led to more strategic conversations with customers.

We saw solid growth worldwide, but performance with some regional unevenness in performance, we had strong growth in our largest market in the U.S. and also in all of that Tam growth and in EMEA and APAC, although still solid didn't quite live up to our own expectations and backing all the regions similar to last quarter. We are of course monitoring the macroeconomic factors and we'll also take steps to manage for the best possible execution in those regions.

In Q2, we made some significant product and packaging introductions tied to our.

Send this showcase event events, which are a series of local product focused events that we host around the world, We announced our acquisition of smooch and its conversational messaging platform during the New York showcase and we launched send us could do it on a combination of all support and sell products into a joint offering at the London showcase events, both only first steps in our big up plans to both put messaging at the center of our products and our platform and to bring our sales software to a wider audience you will see a lot more about how our products and how long you Sunshine platform are coming together.

Helping us expand into new markets touring how big a bad enough that you send this will lead our global user conference. We've moved that to the spring of 2020, rather than having it in Q4 as we've done in the past and we are very excited about hopefully everyone in Miami for our big related events.

For the rest of this year, we're very focused on investing in tighter integration of our new products and platform and further building our go to market efforts around them.

We believe we continue some needs you have innovation and that our investments will give us an even larger opportunity and the broader CRM and customer experience market, but that Lena I will let you talk more about our financial results. Thank you Nicole good afternoon, everyone. As Mikkel stated, we delivered strong revenue growth of 37% in the second quarter. Our growth was driven by continued rising customer expectations product innovation and improving sales and marketing initiatives. The Zendesk suite continued to perform very well and drove strong sales in SMB and mid market customers as well as strategic conversations with our enterprise customers a few financial highlights for the quarter, where we had strong revenue growth in North America, which grew 38% year over year. It's important to note. The U.S. is performing very well and represents over 50% of our revenue other regions Inc., including last time were up 53%.

As Michael stated in EMEA, and APAC had solid revenue growth in the quarter up 33, and 31% respectively. However in these two regions, we observed some pockets of sub optimal execution.

We will be focused on understanding the macro environment in these regions as well as where our execution was below our expectations.

We had continued success moving up market with our percentage of air are from 100, plus support to to advancing four points year over year. Additionally, our PEO increased 61% year over year with long term ARPU up 127% and short term RPL.

47%.

Our PEO continues to benefit from larger longer term deals.

We delivered good non-GAAP gross margin expansion of 240 basis points, largely due to scale and benefit from shutting down our coal low data center for the full year, we expect to deliver our non-GAAP gross margin target to improve approximately 100 basis points year on year.

Our revenue guidance for the full year 2019 is raise to NATO seven to 811, which represents 35% year over year growth at the midpoint, we are maintaining a prudent prudent view on the year as we gain a better understanding of the dynamics internal and external in EMEA and APAC.

Our free cash flow guidance for the full year 2019 is now $35 million to $45 million. This is below our previous guidance largely due to refinements made in our forecasting process acquisition related expenses prepayment of some large vendor deals to get better terms additional capex related to our real estate utilization and the timing and changes of some contingent payments from share based cash based payment. Thank you and now I would like to turn the call back over to Mark. Thanks, Linda before we take your questions. Just one reminder, about customer count metrics.

As we discussed in the last few calls customers have purchased multiple products as end this call a card or still counted as a customer for each product they purchase.

Where as if they are purchasing those and a suite. It is only counted as one paid customer accounts.

And so that I ask that you continue to work with us as we move on those metrics. Finally, then the duet which is our bundled support and so we'll be showing up in our support product because that would be the lead product there.

With that I will turn the call back over to Kelly to poll for questions.

At this time I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question. Please press Star then the number one on your telephone keypad, if youd like to withdraw your question. Please press the pound key your first question comes from the line of Phil Winslow from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Yeah. Thanks, guys for taking my question crush and congrats on a great quarter.

Just wanted to focus on Sunshine.

Michael Obviously, it's still early days for some feedback that you're getting from some of your larger customers on Sunday side.

Do you think it's actually starting to influence some of the deals that you're seeing obviously given some of the uptick in the larger larger transactions just some more color there would be great.

It absolutely is and I think there is a craving and the markets for an alternative kind of platform offering platform offering that is more open and Moines design with kind of there and platforming and kind of infrastructure investments and this is really why we see the the doubling down on mws and really becoming native to the platform using all the different.

Services and beings.

Tightly tied to all the different services on the platform and is on E. W is really playing too.

Is is playing to how the market want to work with the with that so.

Like we are very excited you know as you said, it's we still have a lot of work to do but just like seeing a lot of already implementations. We are very very satisfied where we are today.

Got it and then just one Paul for Atlanta, Atlanta missing something.

Extra capex on the real estate side from accelerated payments whatever you could try to quantify that for us sort of what what the delta is in terms for like a one time, one time impact for sure.

You know and I don't want to quantify that because there are so many different elements to it but obviously meaningful enough that that we shared that with you guys, but I think one important element of that to think about is one of the decisions. We're making is to try to identify some of our space all around the world and that will have long term positive cash flow right, because we'll be able to leverage the space. We already have instead of entering into new real estate not that we won't ever but I think that will allow us to scale more quickly.

And then on the vendor payments. So I would just say that so we have an opportunity for better terms as we extend payment terms. So we'll work out whats right for the company from a.

Vendor relationship perspective, with some of our key vendors.

Got it thanks.

Your next question comes from the line of Michael turn from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hey, there thanks, and good afternoon in terms of market progress with long term, our PEO and EMR from more than 100 agents, both picked up nicely, but the revenue upside for the quarter was less pronounced it sounds like most of that was related to some of what you saw overseas.

And we know the first half this historically more velocity focused but can you maybe talk more about what you're seeing in terms about market progress as we head into the back half of the year.

Sure I mean, I think we're obviously very encouraged by our ARPU and I think one thing that sometimes gets lost is.

Not every not our entire business isn't rpos. So don't forget that that really our PEO is reflective mostly of our enterprise customers. So when you're trying to look at the delta between ARPU and revenue just keep that in mind, but yeah. I think you know for me as I reflected on guidance, who is really important for me to be a bit more prudent until we understand the dynamics of the region to bit more and also because as you guys know towards the back half of the year were more enterprise heavy and so you know, we typically put a lower probability on those deals and with the uneven performance I didn't want to change that philosophy.

That's helpful. Appreciate the transparency there and in terms of suite, you mentioned 3500 customers in Q1, where we're lapping its introduction last summer is there anything we should be cognizant at all in terms of growth impacts there or does a continued ramp in adoption and some of the additional bundling efforts, we're seeing lead to this being potentially more of a sustainable trend as we anniversary this and true.

Yes, so since Weve Anniversaried suite, we continue to see very strong uptake and have it shows itself in two ways. It shows itself in terms of the type of customer we're landing those customers tend to be typically a higher average deal size than our traditional customers were and presumably no. We'll start measuring this as we go through the rest of this year there are stickier customer because they are multi product customer for us.

Thanks appreciate the color.

Your next question comes from the line of <unk>.

I'm sorry from William Blair. Please go ahead your line is open.

Hey, guys, it's actually Arvind Bhatia on for Paul on first maybe on the product side just wanted to.

Touched on the AI announcements I know there were several several announcements with the answer about the knowledge base over the past few months.

Can you maybe just help us understand where you are in your AI roadmap and what your investment priorities. There are on that front going forward and then just some color on what role. This is playing in and customer conversations, especially on the enterprise side would be helpful.

So I definitely see Ali I investment that's how long play you know we have the privilege of having a working with a lot of customer data and really helping.

Building up the ability to really create patterns in the <unk> in all of this and all this data that we are working with.

And by product type and kind of the algorithm. So it helps our customers feel better experiences for their customers and and automating a lot of these things that we nobody wants to spend time on not all customers with their customers. We believe that we can really provide a fantastic experience.

Yeah, you know self service automated service, it's the future as you know we.

We don't want to see if we can avoid it we don't want to talk to people, but at the same time that demand for engaging with customer service is growing exponentially. So we see very much this an opportunity to help our customers help them scale at a.

More kind of mix should weigh in like we will continue to invest in the products to provide our customers with the best solution for scaling operations.

Thanks, that's helpful. And then maybe a follow up for Atlanta, as you move up market into the enterprise.

Obviously, some of your operational and financial metrics are going to change.

On this front is there any way you can quantify the evolution of a new customer HCV over the past year or so.

And then related to that should we expect a more exaggerated land and expand motion with with a with a larger enterprise customer base.

Yes, let me take the first part of the question, which is do our operational or basically cost of acquisition change effectively as I think what you're asking as we move up market and we don't we don't we don't disclose obviously segment information, but absolutely. The way we think about our business is really the sort of the SMB and enterprise business and and mid market as well and as you move up obviously the cost of acquisition increases, but you also get a stickier longer term customers. So as you think about lifetime value, which is how we think about it that's absolutely the right investment obviously more tools across more people to talk to you to close that deal. The flip side is we're trying to really her as Michael suggested to make sure that we make it super easy to onboard the rest of the customers in that cost of acquisition is lower and so as we think about our investment choices, we're very much aware of that dynamic and making those trade offs and that's inclusive of.

All of our sales and marketing investments. That's the first question and I think the second question had to do a two part question with your second the second part was on the on the land and expand should we just expect that to be more exaggerated.

And play out maybe over a multiyear timeframe here as a as the enterprise enterprise base games more prominence.

Yes, theres not sort of a black and white there to be honest because a couple reasons. There's there's many dimensions to that but if you think about our suite product, we're having a higher land earlier and so were just a year into that and understanding that dynamic and then a lot of our enterprise customers as you know they grow with us so that that philosophy of landing customers and expanding hasn't changed too we sometimes have larger expansions.

Yeah, but that's not it's not always the norms, sometimes they start very small they attaching a department and then over time, you see that build up versus necessarily always just a huge expansion. So it really depends and it really depends on the complexity of the east coast, they want et cetera.

Got it that's very helpful. Thanks for taking my questions.

Yep.

Your next question comes from the line of Jennifer Lowe from yes.

Please go ahead your line is open.

Great. Thank you Firstly, just wanted to touch on sort of the commentary around I geography, and you know some of the challenges you've seen there and.

I guess part one of that is can you sort of isolate what's macro versus execution because it seems like both of those concepts came up in the prepared remarks, and then Q yeah. There's a lot of real estate that falls under EMEA and APAC is there any more specificity. There in particular countries that that were you know outliers in terms of the weakness.

So when you look at the regions. We are again they delivered good growth, but there were pockets. So it's not a region wide phenomenon for either but within specific countries. We've seen some feedback that theres. Some uncertainty on the behalf of customers deals are taking somewhat longer to close in certain instances for example out of Australia, which is a large trading partner to China, we've heard that.

I think some of the stuff in the UK might suggest that there's some longer deal cycles there but.

It's really difficult to discern the macro fundamentals from execution fundamentals, we will be looking very closely at that over the next couple of quarters to get better views on that but.

Overall, the demand profile for our products is strong.

But we've seen these little pockets here and there that we want to point out and be transparent about.

Okay, Great and just one more for me and this is another detailee one but.

Yes, I was going to be the shareholder letter and looking at some of the commentary around the cash flow guidance. There was comment that some of it was due to increased acquisition activity and the associated acquisition related expenses and I know, we've seen you being more acquisitive lately with Smoothened with base. So is that really what that's referring to I know basis last year, but if that was referring to or you know are you more broadly beefing up to to have a more proactive acquisition. Any then is M&A. The right way to think of acquisition or is it customer acquisition. If you could just give a little more on what exactly that meant that would be super helpful.

Yes, I know it was a you exactly nailed it it's really smooch and.

Some payments related to that acquisition that really drove that theres nothing obviously that that right now that we're thinking about but that doesn't mean, it will never happen, but right now that's what we're really talking about as Mitch.

Okay, great. That's it for me thanks.

Your next question comes from the line of somebody from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. So if I can ask a follow up on the.

Right on the geography question actually is the mix between enterprise and velocity different in the U.S. versus international and in other words should we think about the that that kind of mixed performance and APAC EMEA, having a lesser or more pronounced impact on enterprise EMR and then I have one follow up.

No I don't think any region is all that different in terms of their complex and.

So it's hard for me to discern there a big difference that would that would account for that APAC has landed some very large opportunities over the historically. So you know we're we're doing some work around there and again, we just want to be very transparent there were watching you know market conditions in both EMEA and APAC.

That's helpful. And then maybe just a follow up on duet I know that that company a announced the new package I'm curious maybe what the initial response from customers has been and maybe what early traction looks like and how we should think about duet factoring into a into what you expected for base CRM to contra to contribute in 2019, thanks again for taking my questions.

[laughter]. It is of course, something we are very bullish around but I.

Honestly, it's very early days, we launched it like very late in June . So we have very little data tools to work with so far.

Hi, This is the beginning of a journey like this a lot of things that we are preparing for being able to do next year.

And I'm excited about that.

And this is really to kind of assess and test them I could get a bit on understanding of it and so far we are very happy about what we see.

Your next question comes from the line of Stan Zlotsky from Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Perfect. Thank you so much for taking my question.

Maybe just at a high level if I could.

Just a follow up on the on somebody's question on do what.

The what has the initial feedback been like in a sense that yeah.

Do you often see a you customers the customer service agents also wearing a sales had in their day to day functions and if so is that.

The identity of that potential buyer is that more on the enterprise side more on the on the SMB side, and then I have a quick follow up.

Yeah, you stand if you just think about this is really a like that way of thinking initially being very much catering for the small businesses, where like rolls are much less like well defined where it's all about like doing what's right for the customer, but like we definitely also see the big opportunity and were kind of web a new generation of high velocity low touch sales is touching kind of.

Hey is touching kind of the advocacy and the post sales experience in a much more fluid way and I think that's what we that's what we have our eyes on as we start to get the experimental with this and start to getting some initial feedback from the market and there is no doubt like small businesses or even like smaller teams like they see a big benefit in like that they can fluently have people move from Bonn function to the other and that they're not tied to like Oh I can only do this I can only do that so we are already seeing that validated in the market.

Got it perfect and then a quick follow up on.

On the AMEA and APAC somebody unevenness that you saw you you mentioned that some of it was just the longer sales cycles and some of it is execution.

How are you guys approaching the.

What the execution part of that as opposed to maybe just yet and overall customer prospect hesitancy.

What can you do to kind of streamline your motion there, especially as you head into the back half of the year the big enterprise.

Back half thank you.

Yes, I mean, I think there's a lot of different things, it's not just one playbook here, but I think it starts with understanding to your point the pipeline in the back half of the year understanding close rates understanding the productivity of all those reps in that region and as well obviously, we're having success in North America. So we're doing some comparisons on what's working here and are there certain things that we can bring to the region that makes sense for that region. Typically we try to do uniform things, but there are definitely localized practices. It just makes more sense. So we're just evaluating this from many different angles.

Got it all right. Thank you so much.

Your next question comes the line of Kirk maternity from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Oh, Thanks, very much I guess I asked a question for a lane just around the RPL metrics, obviously, the long term our PEO clearly signifies your customers are willing to make longer term bets on you. All I was wondering can you just talk a little bit of it its really accelerated this quarter and for the last two quarters I was hoping if you just talk about it was that something your go to market field force is trying to do meaning you know get into longer term deals with the customers and I assume most of that relates to serve expansion deals not necessarily net new but can you just provide us I guess, a little bit more color around that metric is that obviously speaks very well of sort of the longer term strategic relationship you're building up with a lot of your customers. Thanks.

Sure. So good question. So absolutely we're in enormous definitely and his leadership team are focused on longer term deals that was very much intentional started probably late last year really thinking about building a longer term relationship.

With our customers and it's not really just isolated to expansion deals actually it's really both deals and so we're seeing success in both.

New deals that are coming to US you know having larger customers commit to us.

For a longer period of time, but also upon renewal getting some of those expansions to commit longer term.

If I could just tell by my follow up back into the question around your international I assume the go to market playbook is pretty similar across all the regions being I guess do you think any of the execution choppiness, perhaps internationally is about doing longer term deals with customers and maybe just that you know the U.S. customers are more used to that I guess does that play into any of your earlier commentary on to Asia, and Asia and Europe at all thanks.

No no I actually don't think that's true and we definitely have international customers coming to us longer term. So that's not a that's not really speaking to the uneven performance.

Okay, great. Thanks, so much.

Your next question comes from the line of Derrick Wood from Cowen and company. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thanks.

So you guys hired a new head of channel I guess roughly nine months ago can you give us an update on what new initiatives. Your efforts are taking hold and now that maybe you've seen some progress kind of where you think that can go in a year from now in terms of broadening the the ESI engagement.

So I think do you want to take that [laughter] ER.

And I think we're seeing and I think we are seeing.

I think we've seen really good.

Relationships with.

We have some breakout numbers like we are working with a lot of partners. We've seen really good traction and going with partners together to customers and we are seeing especially I would say like regional kind of excellence around these things we have some areas, where we are doing we really have the playbook kneeled.

Other areas, where we believe we still have more work to do.

But.

Like nine months, and we're very happy with where we are and there's no doubt that this will get more and more significance in our business over the years I think were ricard has done a really good job of is.

Just like when you enable your salespeople to sell your product you also have to do a lot of things around partner enablement and building those programs really building those relationships with the partners is been the first go around here and that is starting to result in good feedback and good customer activity from the partner network. There's still a lot more to be done and you know overtime will move from these regional to more global size.

As an important factor of a you know moving into a bigger enterprise deals yeah, and I would just add that we're encouraged by the fact that we're getting in down interest, which I would say when I got here that was not what I would here and I think Sunshine is really open up conversations for sure.

Oh great.

And then a follow up on on Smooching I suspect you're not expecting much incremental revenue near term, but I guess from a long term perspective do you do you see this has been like a meaningful revenue line item for you or is it more about kind of creating stickiness and differentiation with the kind of full platform and making the products the stronger.

The not not the not smooth as a standalone per se.

And what I would say this likeness several elements to this.

In parts of the World. We are already seeing you know massive shifts away from the traditional channels to the messaging channels and.

Like to keep innovating and to keep being the premier provider in those regions. Like we are like we have a commitment to our customers to ensure that they can have the grade seem experience with these and channels as they can have with the channels that we have historically supported so.

And that's why this is kind of tied of this acquisition of smooch was so important for us because it is really really strategic to be on the forefront of all these missing channels and I think that that's a lot of there's a lot of them and then you kind of opportunity in that.

We have already exploring different ways of thinking about that and customers on some more used to he paying for these channels.

Overall, you know like email for example that everybody can see it as like a free channel. So that's definitely a plea the and that's not only in customer service and customer support like we've seen messaging channels, taking over everything in like sales and marketing et cetera. So very excited about that and this is really where we have a big play at the same time.

You're going to continue to invest in the platform business like like really helping businesses as part of the Sunshine story, a part of the Sunshine platform, helping businesses really built innovative solutions that saturated the entire business and the total customer engagement and we can be a partner for them in and that entire lifecycle of managing the customer relationships.

And that's a that's huge.

Monetization opportunities from that too.

Great that's great color. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Coty Kiva from Oppenheimer.

Go ahead your line is open.

Oh, hi, Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the quarter.

So just a quick question here on that 100, plus age and percentage of them are ticking up to 42%, that's really great and it's really demonstrating that the the strategy and the go to market investments are working I guess, just taking a deeper look there you know into the levers that drive that metric was there anything particular point out that was maybe contributing more or maybe less to that a uptick in the EMR.

I think it's really a good indicator of a successful strategy the enormous employing of hiring more enterprise level strategic reps and really up leveling. This organization to go after larger opportunities.

We're also making sure we engage with the customers that already or is and us to make sure that they're growing with us and so their combination that's what's helped that number move up.

Okay, great. Thanks for that and just one quick follow up for a lane a the relay 2020, just for modeling purposes is there could you help me out could you help us out maybe with what's sort of expense, we might be putting into our models for the first quarter of next year.

Well I don't comment on individual expensive so.

Yeah. This guy to answer is no. We haven't we haven't guided to 2020, but that is obviously a marketing expense in Q1, rather than another quarter.

Yeah.

It's not material to the quarter no. Okay, great. Thank you for that thanks, Congrats on the quarter.

Thanks.

Your next.

Most are in some cases would they be leading with duet just curious about how they're managing that.

So just a reminder, duet is still really focused on the SMB. So there was only a subset of the sales teams that that would apply to.

But and really do what is in its first version there is a lot more integration.

Into our future platform that that do out will kind of build into as we go through the rest of this year and early next year.

And it's also working its way up in terms of serving bigger customers. So I would separate those two the duet and so the other offerings that we have.

Got it maybe just a follow up in terms of.

Suite sales in particular for the enterprise remember at the Analyst day norm was talking about very much prioritizing that an conversations with enterprise. There just curious if you could speak to any.

Momentum for suite for that segment in particular.

You know I think sweet has done well across all of our segments frankly.

I think our original intention was really more for the SMB space that we were encouraged by many of our customers upon renewal coming back and asking more about.

So we and I think to that question earlier about or uptick in enterprise I definitely believe that has something to do with it is as we've launched we've seen more of a dialogue with our customers to two generally spend you know.

Had more interest in some of these other channels that we offered it on me.

Omni channel solution. So I think that really sweet has been broadly embraced by both segments.

Okay, great. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Tom Roderick from Stifel. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question I wanted to piggyback on Eric's earlier question on smooth question. It seems like a nice acquisition looks like you paid about $70 million for that Atlantic can I, just ask you to put a finer point on the impact to the financials and if there is any impact to our PEO.

Any any revenue contributions that are sort of.

Leaking into the guidance for the rest of the year.

And or more specifically next quarter on the expense side is that sort of weighing on your your your expense guidance for or I should say your op and guidance for the third quarter here.

Yeah, no. So it's obviously snitches in in our run rate now, but they're frankly not material to the total revenues. So there's not you know I think medical express it correctly and I think it will yeah, we're exploring different ways to monetize and there's definitely opportunity there, but I don't see anything meaningful.

Definitely not in 2019 and even in 2020, I think they'll be early days with that so.

That's how I think about it.

And we okay and then.

Yes, yeah, there there definitely in our run rate.

Yeah, So you excellent future guidance.

Okay can you speak to how many employees you picked up as part of that acquisition.

Oh I think it's a you know in the mid double digits I don't know the exact number for you.

Okay. That's fine that's helpful. And then just relative to you know suite and the traction you're getting there.

And this sort of a go is that the question of of the playbook as well.

Are there are there any different strategies with packaging or pricing of suite as you get into international markets that said it is that effectively the same message as you get out internationally as it is [laughter] domestic suite being treated the same by the salesforce across the across the board, but just love to hear if there's any sort of geographic differences that may have played a role in any of the execution in the quarter.

Am I wouldn't see that it has affected anything in this quarter or like not all of that what we've seen before like like suite definitely took off faster and in the U.S. than it did in some of the other regions and that May be you know one of the things that you know we need to think about going forward without businesslike.

Cost execution outside of the U.S. and there are some differences were working with a nod off like a cliff in the pot and those outside of the U.S. to and like our pot Anatole condition is being outside of the U.S. than this year, but like beyond that no. It's very much the same sale.

Excellent that's good detail. Thank you guys appreciate it.

Your next question comes from the line of Brad Sills from Bank of America. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Oh, Great Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question.

I just wanted to ask a question on enterprise, you've obviously seen some momentum acceleration there would you attribute that more to the land portion of those deals versus expand are you seeing customers commit to more company wide deployments or you know you see momentum more on the kind of expansion deals maybe the size of those deals and the momentum there really gaining steam.

You know it's been a combination of both we continue to land new companies, which we're very proud to win each quarter, but we do also have a lot of expansion opportunity with existing customers and so I would say, it's a healthy mix of both.

And our products with the Oh with introductions sunshine or creating more curiosity around building runs endoscopy.

Great. Thanks, and then one on Sunshine, if I may on.

Any common use cases or verticals that you're seeing whether in the pipeline or maybe some early deals closed.

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Common attitude will be see is kind of bringing in more data to provide a better customer experience.

Hey, just like bringing in more context more live data not only like to help with the customer service and the Christmas Paul but also kind of to provide them all and Nokia ran post sale customer experience a high level, that's what I would say.

And it's across you know its cross anytime of company you know B to C. B to B, we're seeing it in smaller businesses and better Das enterprises to it. It's it's we've seen very modest Sunshine.

Help our customers free up like it has some free it helps them I could take them think differently about about that data flows, which we of course are very excited about.

That's great. Thanks, Michael.

Your next question comes from the line of Steve KONI from Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Terrific. Thanks, then desk.

Maybe just to start with a question.

About <unk>, maybe can you give us some color on international competition, and SMB competition I'm guessing no real change in the environment. You know maybe just some color here would be helpful.

So when you go outside the U.S. the markets, even more fragmented than here in the U.S. and the low end.

So from that point of view I think it's pretty much the same story, we've already always told.

On the Hi, and you know I think that no. It's the same set of competitors that are out there in a pac sometimes are people supposed to use on premise for certain things, but you know other than that I don't think the competitive dynamics have changed that much in the marketplace no weapon.

Yeah, and I, just want to if I can't I'd love to slip in another question, which is.

You had a you had a big expansion in your international partner Count at the beginning of the year.

You guys were pretty emphatic about don't don't expect too much from that this year.

Maybe can you talk a little bit about what what why you're signing those international partners, what you expect from them and.

And can they play a role in helping your international execution here.

So the first.

Just to correct something or just to restate it the way we'd like it stated.

We didn't say that deal slip, but we what we said is we receive feedback from those regions that deals are lit taking longer to close so there's a dynamic there they just want to make sure specify.

In terms of Ah, we started working with partners in the international regions. First this is the more we hired a leader here in the U.S. So internationally, we have more traction with partners than we do in the USA today, because we started with them earlier.

And now we are refining a global strategy of how we work with those partners to really become more impactful for our growth opportunities going forward.

Got it great. Thank you very much.

Sure.

Your next question comes from the line of Brent Bracelin from Keybanc capital markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you I just had one follow up for Elaina here I wanted to circle back up on on our PEO gross.

You talked a little bit about enterprise driving them in there, but it did accelerate and what jumped out to me was was long term RPL jumped by 41 million sequentially.

A year ago in Q2, it was up about $8 million sequentially. So.

Big change their short term, our PEO growth looked pretty healthy another 47% grower, but the big change was long term is that solely tied to duration or are you are you starting to see larger new lands larger expands any color to help explain that that big sequential increase in long term ARPU this quarter would be helpful. Thanks.

Yes, you know, it's it's hard to say with precision, which one of those factors, but I would say durations are definitely extending for us and we've seen that and that was somewhat intentional.

And get us to the sales team for having those are more strategic conversations where customers willing to commit to us for a longer period of time, so there's that tone and just the way we approach customer conversations.

But definitely there are some there is some indication that there are larger deals but.

If I were to say what is the heavier impact there, it's really extending deals longer.

And when those customers commit to are they committing to.

Expect certain set expands every year so year one it's a set of expands year two is going to be a bigger expand or do they just comment over a multiyear period.

For the same taking committing over yes committing over a multiyear period, but I think it's also important to know that once we commit with that customer we build that partnership it's not like the the relationship stops there right. We have a whole customer success organization really there to nurture that account and make sure that as our product evolves, we're having ongoing dialogue with that customer so could there be an expansion down the road absolutely, but what we're seeing right now is multiyear commitment upfront.

Very helpful color, that's all I had thank you.

Thank you Ken if you would like to ask a question. Please press Star then the number one on your telephone keypad.

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And with no further questions at this time I will now turn the call back to Marc Cabi for closing remarks.

Thank you Kelly and thanks, everyone for joining us for our second quarter call.

We will look forward to touching base with you guys next quarter have a great evening.

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