Q3 2025 TransUnion Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Good day and welcome to the TransUnion . S third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference call . All participants will be in a listen only mode .

Operator: Good day, and welcome to TransUnion's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Gregory Bardi, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Should you need assistance , please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key , followed by zero . After today's presentation , there will be an opportunity to ask questions , to ask a question , you may press star , then one on your telephone keypad .

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Speaker #1: Please go ahead .

Speaker #2: Good morning, and thank you for attending today. Joining me on the call are Christopher Cartwright, President and Chief Executive Officer.

Gregory Bardi: Good morning, and thank you for attending today. Joining me on the call are Chris Cartwright, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Todd Cello, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We posted our earnings release and slides to accompany this call on the TransUnion Investor Relations website this morning, and it can also be found in the current report on Form 8-K that we filed this morning. Our earnings release and the accompanying slides include various schedules, which contain more detailed information about revenue, operating expenses, and other items, as well as certain non-GAAP disclosures and financial measures, along with the corresponding reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures. Today's call will be recorded, and a replay will be available on our website. We will also be making statements during the call that are forward-looking.

Speaker #2: And Todd Cello executive vice president and chief financial officer . We posted our earnings release and slides to accompany this call on the TransUnion Investor Relations website this morning , and it can also be found in the current Report on Form 8-K that we filed this morning .

Speaker #2: Our earnings release and the accompanying slides include various schedules which contain more detailed information about revenue , operating expenses , and other items , as well as certain non-GAAP disclosures and financial measures .

Speaker #2: Along with the corresponding reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures . Today's call will be recorded and a replay will be available on our website .

Speaker #2: We will also be making statements during the call that are forward looking . These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties .

Gregory Bardi: These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements because of factors discussed in today's earnings release, in the comments made during this conference call, and in our most recent Form 10-K, Forms 10-Q, and other reports and filings with the SEC. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement. With that, let me turn it over to Chris.

Speaker #2: Actual results could differ materially from those described in the forward looking statements because of factors discussed in today's earnings release and the comments made during this conference call , and in our most recent form 10-K , forms 10-q and other reports and filings with the SEC .

Speaker #2: We do not undertake any duty to update any forward looking statement . With that , let me turn it over to Chris .

Speaker #3: Thanks , Craig . During the third quarter , TransUnion again exceeded all key guidance metrics and achieved its seventh consecutive quarter of high single digit organic revenue growth .

Chris Cartwright: Thanks, Greg. During the third quarter, TransUnion again exceeded all key guidance metrics and achieved its seventh consecutive quarter of high single-digit organic revenue growth. These results demonstrate the growing momentum of our innovation-led strategy. I want to outline four key highlights from the quarter. First, we delivered market-leading and diversified growth, with revenue increasing by 11% on an organic constant currency basis, excluding the significant breach remediation win from last year, which represents our strongest underlying performance since 2021. Second, we are raising our 2025 guidance across all metrics, reflecting our strong third-quarter performance, stable lending trends in the U.S., and new business wins. U.S. lending conditions continue to be solid, characterized by modest GDP growth, still strong employment, stable delinquencies, lower interest rates, and manageable inflation. This is despite emerging concerns regarding a slowing labor market and stress for lower-income consumers.

Speaker #3: These results demonstrate the growing momentum of our innovation led strategy . I want to outline four key highlights from the quarter . First , we delivered market leading and diversified growth with revenue increasing by 11% on an organic constant currency basis .

Speaker #3: Excluding the significant breach remediation win from last year , which represents our strongest underlying performance since 2021 . Second , we are raising our 2025 guidance across all metrics reflecting our strong third quarter performance , stable lending trends in the US and new business wins , US lending conditions continue to be solid , characterized by modest GDP growth .

Speaker #3: Still strong employment , stable delinquencies , lower interest rates , and manageable inflation . And this is despite emerging concerns regarding a slowing labor market and stress for for lower income consumers .

Speaker #3: Third , we advanced our technology modernization with successful migration of our first US credit customers . One true is accelerating our pace of innovation in credit and non-credit products .

Chris Cartwright: Third, we advanced our technology modernization with successful migration of our first U.S. credit customers. OneTrue is accelerating our pace of innovation in credit and non-credit products. We remain on track to achieve our remaining structural cost savings in 2026, as anticipated. Fourth, we accelerated our share repurchases to take advantage of highly attractive valuation levels. During the third quarter and October, we repurchased $160 million in shares, bringing the year-to-date total to $200 million. Additionally, we increased our share repurchase authorization to $1 billion, underscoring our commitment to delivering value to shareholders. Further details on each of these highlights are discussed below. Now, our third-quarter results demonstrate effective execution against our growth playbook, with strength evident across our solutions, our verticals, and our geographies. U.S. markets delivered 13% organic constant currency revenue growth when excluding last year's breach win.

Speaker #3: We remain on track to achieve our remaining structural cost savings in 2026 , as anticipated . And fourth , we accelerated our share repurchases to take advantage of highly attractive valuation levels .

Speaker #3: During the third quarter and October . We repurchased 160 million shares , bringing the year to date total to 200 million . Additionally , we increased our share repurchase authorization to 1 billion , underscoring our commitment to delivering value to shareholders .

Speaker #3: Further details on each of these highlights are discussed below . Now , our third quarter results demonstrate effective execution against our growth playbook with strength evident across our solutions .

Speaker #3: Our verticals and our geographies US markets delivered 13% organic constant currency revenue growth when excluding last year's breach win financial services grew 19% or 12% , excluding mortgage , reflecting continued broad based outperformance in a stable and modestly growing market .

Chris Cartwright: Financial services grew 19%, or 12% excluding mortgage, reflecting continued broad-based outperformance in a stable and modestly growing market. Emerging verticals accelerated to 7.5%, their strongest growth since 2022. Our non-credit solutions, which account for over half of U.S. markets' revenue, grew 8%. These results reflect the emerging commercial benefits across our vertical markets from our accelerating innovation in credit, marketing, fraud, and communications. Now, international revenue grew by 6% on an organic constant currency basis. Canada, the UK, and Africa all exceeded expectations and achieved double-digit growth despite muted economic conditions in each market. India grew 5%, slightly below our outlook as new tariffs impacted U.S. export-dependent small and medium-sized businesses, which tempered the pace of lending recovery. We now expect high single-digit revenue growth in India in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #3: Emerging verticals accelerated to 7.5% their strongest growth since 2022 . Our Noncredit solutions , which account for over half of US market's revenue , grew 8% .

Speaker #3: These results reflect the emerging commercial benefits across our vertical markets , from our accelerating innovation in credit marketing fraud and communications . Now , international revenue grew by 6% on an organic , constant currency basis .

Speaker #3: Canada . The UK and Africa all exceeded US and achieved double digit growth despite muted economic conditions in each market . India grew 5% , slightly below our outlook as new tariffs impacted US export dependent small and medium sized businesses , which tempered the pace of lending recovery .

Speaker #3: We now expect high single digit revenue growth in India in the fourth quarter . On a positive note , we experienced some volume improvement in the first days of the festival season in late September and early October .

Chris Cartwright: On a positive note, we experienced some volume improvement in the first days of the festival season in late September and early October. This is supported by further pro-growth actions from the RBI and the Indian government. Todd will provide a comprehensive review of our results in just a minute. Now, looking ahead, we're raising our 2025 outlook based on our strong third-quarter results, stable U.S. lending trends, and our continued commercial momentum. Our guidance raise maintains a prudently conservative approach, which offers likely upside if current lending conditions continue. At the high end of guidance, we now expect 8% organic constant currency revenue growth, or 9% excluding last year's large breach win, 9% adjusted EBITDA growth, and 9% adjusted diluted earnings per share growth.

Speaker #3: This , supported by further pro-growth actions from the RBI in the Indian government . Todd will provide a comprehensive review of our results in just a minute .

Speaker #3: Now , looking ahead , we are raising our 2025 outlook based on our strong third quarter results . Stable US lending trends and our continued commercial momentum .

Speaker #3: Our guidance raise maintains a prudently conservative approach , which offers likely upside if current lending conditions continue . Now , at the high end of guidance , we now expect 8% organic constant currency revenue growth , or 9% excluding last year's large breach win , 9% adjusted EBITDA growth and 9% adjusted diluted earnings per share growth .

Speaker #3: Excluding the 400 basis point impact of a higher tax rate in 2025 . Our results show another year of double digit EPs growth , supported by our consistent execution and the strength of our diversified and resilient portfolio .

Chris Cartwright: Excluding the 400 basis point impact of a higher tax rate in 2025, our results show another year of double-digit EPS growth, supported by our consistent execution and the strength of our diversified and resilient portfolio. We continue to advance our technology modernization to drive cost savings, accelerate innovation, and enable sustainable growth. In the third quarter, we completed the migration of our first U.S. credit customers to key milestone. We're enabling these clients with faster processing speeds and seamless access to our newest innovations, including TrueIQ analytics. Additionally, we expanded our dual-run program for key customers. We're partnering closely with our customers to ensure smooth transitions ahead of a full migration. By year-end, we expect OneTrue to power a critical mass of our run-rate U.S. credit volume and revenue, and we plan to complete all U.S. migrations by mid-2026.

Speaker #3: Now we continue to advance our technology modernization to drive cost savings, accelerate innovation, and enable sustainable growth. In the third quarter, we completed the migration of our first U.S. credit customers to a key milestone.

Speaker #3: We're enabling these clients with faster processing speeds and seamless access to our newest innovations , including true IQ analytics . Additionally , we expanded our dual run program for key customers .

Speaker #3: We're partnering closely with our customers to ensure smooth transitions ahead of a full migration , and by year end , we expect one true to power , a critical mass of our run rate US credit volume and revenue , and we plan to complete all us migrations by mid 2026 .

Speaker #3: Over the year , we identified incremental third party spend and other internal savings to deliver our targeted savings for 2026 and allow additional time to complete US credit migrations in 26 .

Chris Cartwright: Over the year, we identified incremental third-party spend and other internal savings to deliver our targeted savings for 2026 and allow additional time to complete U.S. credit migrations. In 2026, we expect to deliver $35 million of operating expense savings and reduce capital expenditures to 6% of revenue. We will leverage these savings to drive margin expansion in 2026 and fund growth investments. We anticipate no technology-related one-time expense add-backs in 2026. Next year, our technology modernization will shift to our international markets. We've launched TrueIQ analytic platform in Canada, the UK, and India in 2025. Next year, we plan to export other OneTrue-enabled solutions to these markets and start modernizing the core credit capabilities across Canada, the UK, and the Philippines. OneTrue is our destination platform, and we expect to fund these migrations through normal operations, driving additional savings in 2027 and beyond while diffusing our innovative solutions globally.

Speaker #3: We expect to deliver 35 million of operating expense savings and reduced capital expenditures to 6% of revenue . We will leverage these savings to drive margin expansion in 26 and fund growth investments .

Speaker #3: We anticipate no technology related one time expense add backs in 2026 . Next year , our technology modernization will shift to our international markets .

Speaker #3: We've launched true IQ analytic platform in Canada , the UK and India in 2025 . Next year , we plan to export other one true enabled solutions to these markets and start modernizing the core credit capabilities across Canada , the UK and the Philippines .

Speaker #3: One true is our destination platform and we expect to fund these migrations through normal operations . Driving additional savings in 2027 and beyond .

Speaker #3: While diffusing our innovative solutions globally . Now , our technology modernization is enabling commercial success across our solutions . We see new products rapidly gaining market traction , and we've built a robust innovation pipeline to fuel our next phase of growth factor trust has delivered exceptional results .

Chris Cartwright: Now, our technology modernization is enabling commercial success across our solutions. We see new products rapidly gaining market traction, and we've built a robust innovation pipeline to fuel our next phase of growth. FactorTrust has delivered exceptional results. We secured multiple new wins in the quarter and continue to expand the pipeline. FactorTrust has been a key driver of outperformance in our consumer lending business throughout the year, and we anticipate roughly 20% growth from FactorTrust in 2025. TrueIQ data enrichment launched on Snowflake with the first few live customers. The Snowflake partnership expands the market opportunity for data enrichment and underscores our commitment to meet customers wherever their data lives. Data enrichment has quickly become one of our most successful recent product launches. In fraud, we experienced strong demand for our newest synthetic fraud models and credit washing solutions.

Speaker #3: We secured multiple new wins in the quarter and continued to expand the pipeline . Factor trust has been a key driver of outperformance in our consumer lending business throughout the year , and we anticipate roughly 20% growth from factor trust in 2025 .

Speaker #3: True IQ data enrichment launched on snowflake with the first few live customers , the snowflake partnership expands the market opportunity for data enrichment and underscores our commitment to meet customers wherever their data lives .

Speaker #3: Data enrichment has quickly become one of our most successful recent product launches . In fraud , we experienced strong demand for our newest synthetic fraud models and credit washing solutions .

Speaker #3: These new tools are built on one true and leverage our augmented identity graph , which now includes integrated public records and delivers better fraud signals .

Chris Cartwright: These new tools are built on OneTrue and leverage our augmented identity graph, which now includes integrated public records and delivers better fraud signals. With OneTrue, we're beginning to penetrate the large and fast-growing global market for advanced fraud analytics. We're accelerating growth in our marketing suite as well, driven by strong demand for our enhanced cloud-based identity resolution and audience activation capabilities. Over the last few years, we streamlined our marketing suite down from 87 products across six separate platforms into a single integrated marketing platform on OneTrue. This integrated solution improves performance and simplifies our product portfolio for sellers and customers. Trusted Call Solutions continues to scale with new customer wins and ongoing capability enhancements. We expect to deliver over $150 million in revenue in 2025, a 30%+ increase year over year. We also continue to pursue global expansion opportunities for Trusted Call Solutions.

Speaker #3: With one true , we're beginning to penetrate the large and fast growing global market for advanced fraud analytics . We're accelerating growth in our marketing suite as well , driven by strong demand for our enhanced cloud based identity , resolution and audience activation capabilities .

Speaker #3: Over the last few years, we streamlined our marketing suite down from 87 products across six separate platforms into a single integrated marketing platform on one true. This integrated solution improves performance and simplifies our product portfolio for sellers and customers.

Speaker #3: Trusted call Solutions continues to scale with new customer wins and ongoing capability enhancements . We expect to deliver over 150 million in revenue in 2025 , a 30% plus increase year over year , and we also continue to pursue global expansion opportunities for TCS and in consumer solutions .

Chris Cartwright: In consumer solutions, our freemium model is increasing in users and offers available. We're also migrating our indirect customers globally onto a new platform that combines our credit education, identity protection, and financial offers behind a single set of APIs. OneTrue brings together our unique data within a single workflow platform, making it easier to deploy AI solutions across use cases and at scale. TransUnion is well-positioned for AI-led growth. Our credit solutions are based on proprietary data contributed by thousands of individual furnishers. This data is not publicly available and can only be gathered and utilized within demanding regulatory frameworks. Our non-credit solutions also are developed from data gathered from tens of thousands of sources, many unique to TransUnion, and then combined with proprietary data exhausts from our fraud and marketing solutions.

Speaker #3: Our freemium model is increasing in users and offers available . We're also migrating our indirect customers globally onto a new platform that combines our credit education , identity protection and financial offers behind a single set of APIs .

Speaker #3: One True brings together our unique data within a single workflow platform, making it easier to deploy AI solutions across use cases and at scale in twos.

Speaker #3: Well positioned for AI led growth , our credit solutions are based on proprietary data contributed by thousands of individual Furnishers . This data is not publicly available and can only be gathered and utilized within demanding regulatory frameworks .

Speaker #3: Our non-credit solutions also are developed from data gathered from tens of thousands of sources . Many unique to TransUnion , and then combined with proprietary data exhaust from our fraud and marketing solutions .

Speaker #3: This vast array of data fuels our credit fraud and marketing predictive models , which already use advanced machine learning and AI to boost accuracy and to facilitate actions based on their better predictions .

Chris Cartwright: This vast array of data fuels our credit, fraud, and marketing predictive models, which already use advanced machine learning and AI to boost accuracy and to facilitate actions based on their better predictions. Increasingly, TransUnion will capture value with AI agents by performing work currently done by internal client teams or automation upstream from our data and analytics. Our most AI-enabled customers already consume more of our data than our traditional customers, and they adopt our newer solutions more rapidly. We are actively leveraging AI across the enterprise to drive faster product development, to enhance customer experience, and improve ops efficiency. Internally, OneTrue Assist and OneTrue AI Studio are driving productivity gains for our software developers and data scientists, but also for non-technical teams. Within the OneTrue Tech platform, Agentic AI is enhancing core processes such as data onboarding, ID resolution, analytics, and delivery.

Speaker #3: In increasingly , TransUnion will capture value with AI agents by performing work currently done by internal client teams or automation upstream from our data and analytics , and our most AI enabled customers already consume more of our data than our traditional customers , and they adopt our newer solutions more rapidly .

Speaker #3: So we are actively leveraging AI across the enterprise to drive faster product development, enhance customer experience, and improve operational efficiency internally. One True Assist and One True AI Studio are driving productivity gains for our software developers and data scientists, but also for non-technical teams within the One True Tech Platform.

Speaker #3: Agentic AI is enhancing core processes such as data onboarding , ID resolution , analytics , and delivery , and at the product level , we're embedding AI into our solutions , including role based agents for Treweeke analytics .

Chris Cartwright: At the product level, we're embedding AI into our solutions, including role-based agents for TrueIQ analytics, our next-generation fraud detection models, and advanced consumer behavioral analytics in our marketing suite. In summary, the tech modernization is driving rapid innovation and ops efficiency, but it's also positioning us to lead in the next phase of AI-driven growth. Our strong earnings and solid balance sheet have enabled us to boost capital returns for our shareholders. In the third quarter and October, we ramped up share repurchases to $160 million, increasing our total for the year to $200 million. This reflects our ongoing commitment to shareholder value. The board recently raised our share repurchase authorization to $1 billion, and we believe buying back shares is especially attractive given our current market valuation. Now, with that, I'll hand it over to Todd.

Speaker #3: Our next-generation fraud detection models and advanced consumer behavioral analytics in our marketing suite are driving rapid innovation and operational efficiency. In summary, the tech modernization is driving this progress.

Speaker #3: But it's also positioning us to lead in the next phase of AI-driven growth. Our strong earnings and solid balance sheet have enabled us to boost capital returns for our shareholders.

Speaker #3: In the third quarter , and October , we ramped up share repurchases to 160 million , increasing our total for the year to 200 million .

Speaker #3: And this reflects our ongoing commitment to shareholder value . The board recently raised our share repurchase authorization to 1 billion , and we believe buying back shares is especially attractive given our current market valuation .

Speaker #3: Now with that , I'll hand it over to Todd .

Speaker #4: Thanks , Chris . And let me add my welcome to everyone . As Chris mentioned , we exceeded guidance across all key financial metrics in the third quarter , driven by US financial services and emerging verticals .

Todd Cello: Thanks, Chris. Let me add my welcome to everyone. As Chris mentioned, we exceeded guidance across all key financial metrics in the third quarter, driven by U.S. financial services and emerging verticals. Consolidated revenue increased 8% on a reported and 7% on an organic constant currency basis. The Monevo acquisition added 0.5% to growth. The foreign currency impact was immaterial. Excluding the comparison to last year's large breach remediation win, organic constant currency growth was 11%. Mortgage contributed 3 points to growth. Adjusted EBITDA increased 8% with margin at 36.3%, above our 35.6% to 36.2% guidance due to revenue flow-through. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $1.10, $0.06 ahead of the high end of our guidance and an increase of 6%. In the third quarter, we incurred $34 million of one-time charges related to our transformation program, $12 million for operating model optimization, and $22 million for technology transformation.

Speaker #4: Consolidated revenue increased 8% on a reported and 7% on an organic constant currency basis . The acquisition added half a percent to growth .

Speaker #4: The foreign currency impact was immaterial , excluding the comparison to last year's large breach , remediation win , organic constant currency growth was 11% .

Speaker #4: Mortgage contributed three points to growth adjusted EBITDA increased 8% , with margin at 36.3% above our 35.6 to 36.2% guidance due to revenue flow through adjusted diluted earnings per share was $1.10 , $0.06 ahead of the high end of our guidance and an increase of 6% in the third quarter .

Speaker #4: We incurred $34 million of one time charges related to our transformation program , 12 million for operating model optimization , and 22 million for technology transformation .

Speaker #4: Cumulative one time transformation expenses . Total $349 million . And we remain on track and within budget for our 355 to $375 million and one time expenses by the end of 2025 .

Todd Cello: Cumulative one-time transformation expenses total $349 million, and we remain on track and within budget for our $355 million to $375 million in one-time expenses by the end of 2025. Looking at segment financial performance for the third quarter, U.S. markets revenue was up 7% on an organic constant currency basis versus the prior year, or 13% excluding the impact of last year's large breach win. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 38.4%, up 70 basis points due to revenue flow-through and lower product costs compared to the prior year. Financial services revenue grew 19%, or 12% excluding mortgage. In the U.S., consumers remain resilient with still low unemployment and positive wage growth, and lenders are well-positioned with adequate capital and healthy credit performance. Our growth reflects strong performance against a favorable and stable market backdrop. We continue to outperform the market by driving new business wins across our solution suites.

Speaker #4: Looking at segment financial performance for the third quarter , US markets revenue was up 7% on an organic , constant currency basis versus the prior year , or 13% excluding the impact of last year's large breach win .

Speaker #4: Adjusted EBITDA margin was 38.4% , up 70 basis points due to revenue flow through and lower product costs compared to the prior year .

Speaker #4: Financial services revenue grew 19% or 12% , excluding mortgage in the US , consumers remain resilient , with still low unemployment and positive wage growth , and lenders well positioned with adequate capital and healthy credit performance .

Speaker #4: Our growth reflects strong performance against a favorable and stable market backdrop . We continue to outperform the market by driving new business wins across our solution suites , credit card and banking rose 5% against modestly improving online volumes .

Todd Cello: Credit card and banking rose 5% against modestly improving online volumes. We continue to see good sales momentum with Trusted Call Solutions and alternative data. Consumer lending grew 17%, driven by healthy marketing and origination activity from fintech and point-of-sale lenders. FactorTrust also delivered another strong quarter. Auto grew 16%, driven by pricing as well as growth in communications and marketing solutions. We saw an uptick in activity in the quarter, including increased electric vehicle sales in September, ahead of the expiration of the federal EV tax credit. We anticipate volumes to normalize in the fourth quarter. Mortgage revenue grew 35% on flat inquiry volumes, benefiting from third-party scores pricing and non-triburial revenue. Mortgage now represents 12% of trailing 12-month revenue. Emerging verticals grew 7.5%, led by double-digit growth in insurance. Other verticals accelerated as well, driven by strength in Trusted Call Solutions, marketing, and specialized risks.

Speaker #4: We continue to see good sales momentum with trusted call solutions and alternative data . Consumer lending grew 17% , driven by healthy marketing and origination activity from fintech and point of sale lenders .

Speaker #4: Factor trust also delivered another strong quarter . Auto grew 16% , driven by pricing as well as growth in communications and marketing solutions .

Speaker #4: We saw an uptick in activity in the quarter , including increased electric vehicle sales in September ahead of the expiration of the federal EV tax credit .

Speaker #4: We anticipate volumes to normalize in the fourth quarter . Mortgage revenue grew 35% on flat inquiry volumes , benefiting from third party scores , pricing and non-tribal revenue .

Speaker #4: Mortgage now represents 12% of trailing 12 month revenue emerging verticals grew 7.5% , led by double digit growth in insurance . Other verticals accelerated as well , driven by strength in trusted call solutions , marketing and specialized risk tech .

Speaker #4: Retail and e-commerce , and collections posted double digit growth media and communications grew mid-single digits , and tenant employment grew low . Single digits .

Todd Cello: Tech, retail, and e-commerce and collections posted double-digit growth. Media and communications grew mid-single digits, and tenant and employment grew low single digits. Public sector declined due to revenue timing. In insurance, we delivered another strong quarter. Consumer shopping remains elevated. Credit-based marketing activity continues to normalize as insurers benefit from improved rate adequacy, complemented by new wins in our modern marketing solutions. Commercial momentum continued in core credit and driving history products, as well as Trusted Call Solutions. Turning to Consumer Interactive, revenue declined 18% on an organic constant currency basis due to last year's breach remediation win. Excluding this impact, Consumer Interactive grew mid-single digits with growth in both the direct and indirect channels. For my comments about international, all revenue growth comparisons will be in organic constant currency terms. For the total segment, revenue grew 6%.

Speaker #4: Public sector declined due to revenue timing and insurance . We delivered another strong quarter consumer shopping remains elevated . Credit based marketing activity continues to normalize as insurers benefit from improved rate adequacy , complemented by new wins and our modern marketing solutions .

Speaker #4: Commercial momentum continued in core credit and driving history products, as well as trusted call solutions. Turning to consumer interactive revenue, it declined 18% on an organic constant currency basis due to last year's breach.

Speaker #4: Remediation win . Excluding this impact , Consumer Interactive grew mid-single digits , with growth in both the direct and indirect channels . For my comments about international all revenue growth comparisons will be an organic , constant currency terms for the total segment revenue grew 6% .

Speaker #4: Canada and the UK delivered double-digit growth, demonstrating our ability to outgrow market volumes in our most mature markets. Africa and the Philippines also grew double digits.

Todd Cello: Canada and the UK delivered double-digit growth, demonstrating our ability to outgrow market volumes in our most mature markets. Africa and the Philippines also grew double digits. Other markets, including India, Latin America, and Hong Kong, experienced below-trend market volumes and growth rates. Adjusted EBITDA margin for our international segment was 43.2%. Looking at the specifics for each region, India grew 5%, slightly below our expectations, as recent trade actions tempered the pace of volume recovery. We now anticipate the high single-digit revenue growth in India in the fourth quarter. In late 2023 and throughout 2024, the Reserve Bank of India took actions to slow lending by tightening regulations and targeting lower loan-to-deposit ratios industry-wide. These actions included temporary bans of several non-banking finance companies. Volumes troughed in the fourth quarter of 2024, with gradual improvement throughout 2025. Conditions overall are favorable, with manageable delinquencies and modest inflation.

Speaker #4: Other markets , including India , Latin America and Hong Kong , experienced below trend . Market volumes and growth rates . Adjusted EBITDA margin for our international segment was 43.2% .

Speaker #4: Looking at the specifics for each region , India grew 5% , slightly below our expectations as recent trade actions tempered the pace of volume recovery .

Speaker #4: We now anticipate the high , high single digit revenue growth in India in the fourth quarter . In late 2023 and throughout 2024 , the reserve Bank of India took actions to slow lending by tightening regulations and targeting lower loan to deposit ratios .

Speaker #4: Industry wide . These actions included temporary bans of several non-banking finance companies . Volumes Troughed . In the fourth quarter of 2024 , with gradual improvement throughout 2025 , conditions overall are favorable , with manageable delinquencies and modest inflation .

Speaker #4: The RBI lowered rates by 100 basis points throughout 2025 and lifted lending bans on the impacted non-banking finance companies . The recovery has been measured .

Todd Cello: The RBI lowered rates by 100 basis points throughout 2025 and lifted lending bans on the impacted non-banking finance companies. The recovery has been measured. Loan-to-deposit ratios are still modestly elevated, and non-bank finance companies have conservatively returned to the market. Lenders are prioritizing existing customers and lower volume, higher notional loans over new-to-credit opportunities. These dynamics have underpinned our guidance throughout the year. Recent U.S. tariff of 50% on Indian imports, however, introduced uncertainty and has dampened commercial lending, particularly to SMEs in export-oriented sectors. This has resulted in new pressures on CapEx, employment, and credit demand. On a positive note, the Indian government recently enacted tax reforms, and the RBI proposed further regulatory easing to support lenders and stimulate growth. Volumes in the early festive season in late September and early October, while still dampened from tariff effects, showed some improvement. We will monitor ongoing trends.

Speaker #4: Loan to deposit ratios are still modestly elevated and non-bank finance companies have conservatively returned to the market . Lenders are prioritizing existing customers and lower volume , higher notional loans over new to credit opportunities .

Speaker #4: These dynamics have underpinned our guidance throughout the year. The recent U.S. tariff of 50% on Indian imports, however, has introduced uncertainty and dampened our outlook.

Speaker #4: Commercial lending , particularly to small and medium sized businesses and export oriented sectors . This has resulted in new pressures on CapEx , employment and credit demand .

Speaker #4: On a positive note, the Indian government recently enacted tax reforms, and the RBI proposed further regulatory easing to support lenders and stimulate growth volumes in the early festive season.

Speaker #4: In late September and early October , while still dampened from tariff effects , showed some improvement . We will monitor ongoing trends from a TransUnion perspective .

Todd Cello: From a TransUnion perspective, we continue to deliver double-digit growth in business wins and new product introductions, outperforming the broader market and our competitors. We remain highly confident in India's robust long-term growth potential. Our UK business grew 11%, our strongest performance since 2022, driven by healthy volumes from our largest banking customers and new business wins across verticals. We also continue to expand our consumer indirect offering to new partners, now serving over 27 million UK consumers. Canada also grew 11%. We drove innovation-led share gains across financial services, telco, insurance, and auto, as well as new and expanded wins in fintech and consumer indirect. Latin America revenue was flat amid softer economic and lending conditions. Colombia delivered modest growth despite political uncertainty that weighed on government revenues and lending activity. Brazil declined as we lapped one-time project revenue.

Speaker #4: We continue to deliver double digit growth in business wins and new product introductions , outperforming the broader market and our competitors . We remain highly confident in India's robust long term growth potential .

Speaker #4: Our UK business grew 11% . Our strongest performance since 2022 , driven by healthy volumes from our largest banking customers and new business wins across verticals .

Speaker #4: We also continue to expand our consumer indirect offering to new partners , now serving over 27 million UK consumers . Canada also grew 11% .

Speaker #4: We drove innovation-led share gains across financial services, telco, insurance, and auto, as well as new and expanded wins in fintech and consumer indirect. Latin America revenue was flat amid softer economic and lending conditions.

Speaker #4: Colombia delivered modest growth despite political uncertainty that weighed on government revenues and lending activity. Brazil declined as we lapped one-time project revenue.

Speaker #4: Our other Latin American countries grew modestly , impacted by consumer uncertainty linked to recent trade and immigration policies . Strategic campaigns and innovation led wins offset some of the near-term volume pressures in the region .

Todd Cello: Our other Latin America countries grew modestly, impacted by consumer uncertainty linked to recent trade and immigration policies. Strategic campaigns and innovation-led wins offset some of the near-term volume pressures in the region. Asia Pacific declined 8%. The Philippines remained strong, but Hong Kong faced a soft economic backdrop. We also lapped one-time consulting revenue from the prior year. Finally, Africa increased 12% with broad-based growth across financial services, retail, and insurance. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $5.1 billion of debt and $750 million of cash on the balance sheet. Our leverage ratio at quarter-end declined to 2.7 times as we continue to push toward our long-term target of under 2.5 times. Our strengthening free cash flow and ongoing natural delevering positions us to accelerate capital returns to shareholders.

Speaker #4: Asia Pacific declined 8%. The Philippines remained strong, while Hong Kong faced a soft economic backdrop. We also lapped one-time consulting revenue from the prior year.

Speaker #4: Finally , Africa increased 12% with broad based growth across financial services , retail and insurance . Turning to the balance sheet , we ended the quarter with $5.1 billion of debt and $750 million of cash .

Speaker #4: On the balance but Hong sheet . Our leverage ratio at quarter end declined to 2.7 times . As we continue to push toward our long term target of under 2.5 times our strengthening free cash flow and ongoing natural delevering positions us to accelerate capital returns to shareholders .

Speaker #4: We repurchased $160 million in shares in the third quarter , and October , bringing the year to date total to $200 million . We remain on track to complete the Mexico acquisition in late 2025 or early 2026 , which will be funded with cash on hand and debt .

Todd Cello: We repurchased $160 million in shares in the third quarter and October, bringing the year-to-date total to $200 million. We remain on track to complete the Mexico acquisition in late 2025 or early 2026, which will be funded with cash on hand and debt. We look forward to adding Mexico to our leading global portfolio and bringing our state-of-the-art technology, innovative solutions, and industry expertise to Mexican consumers and businesses. Turning to guidance, as Chris mentioned, we are raising our full-year outlook, reflecting strong third-quarter results, stable U.S. lending conditions, and new business wins. Our guidance remains prudently conservative. If current conditions continue, we expect to deliver results at or above the high end of our guidance range. That brings us to our outlook for the fourth quarter. FX impact is expected to be minimal to both revenue and adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #4: We look forward to adding Mexico to our leading global portfolio and bringing our state of the art technology innovative solutions and industry expertise to Mexican consumers and businesses .

Speaker #4: Turning to guidance . As Chris mentioned , we are raising our full year outlook , reflecting strong third quarter results , stable US lending and new business wins .

Speaker #4: Our guidance remains prudently conservative if current conditions continue , we expect to deliver results at or above the high end of our guidance range .

Speaker #4: That brings us to our outlook for the fourth quarter . FX impact is expected to be minimal to both revenue and adjusted EBITDA .

Speaker #4: We expect our acquisition to contribute roughly a percent to revenue . We expect revenue to be between 1.119 and $1.139 billion , up conditions 7 to 9% on an organic constant currency basis .

Todd Cello: We expect our Monevo acquisition to contribute roughly a percent to revenue. We expect revenue to be between $1.119 and $1.139 billion, up 7% to 9% on an organic constant currency basis. Our revenue guidance includes two points of tailwind from mortgage. In the fourth quarter, mortgage inquiries are expected to increase modestly. We expect adjusted EBITDA to be between $393 and $407 million, up 4% to 8%. We expect an adjusted EBITDA margin of 35.1% to 35.8%, down 70 to 130 basis points. We expect our adjusted EBITDA margin in the second half of the year to be roughly 36%, consistent with the first half of the year and full-year expectations. We expect our adjusted diluted earnings per share to be between $0.97 and $1.02, down 1% to up 5%.

Speaker #4: Our revenue guidance includes two points of tailwind from mortgage in the fourth quarter. Mortgage inquiries are expected to increase modestly. We expect adjusted EBITDA to be between $393 million and $407 million, up 4% to 8%. We expect an adjusted EBITDA margin of 35.1% to 35.8%.

Speaker #4: Down 70 to 130 basis points . We expect our adjusted EBITDA margin in the second half of the year to be roughly 36% , consistent with the first half of the year and full year expectations .

Speaker #4: We expect our adjusted diluted earnings per share to be between $0.97 and $1 two , down 1% to up 5% . Turning to the full year , we anticipate FX to be immaterial to revenue and adjusted EBITDA , and the acquisition to contribute half a percent to revenue .

Todd Cello: Turning to the full year, we anticipate FX to be immaterial to revenue and adjusted EBITDA, and the Monevo acquisition to contribute half a percent to revenue. We expect revenue of between $4.524 and $4.544 billion. We expect organic constant currency revenue growth of 8%, an increase from our prior guidance of 6% to 7%. Excluding mortgage, we expect organic constant currency growth of 5% to 6%. These growth rates include a 1% headwind from last year's breach win comparison. Specific to our segment organic constant currency assumptions, we expect U.S. markets to be up high single digits or mid-single digits, excluding mortgage. We now anticipate financial services to be up mid-teens or roughly 10%, excluding mortgage. We expect mortgage revenue to increase by nearly 30% against modest declines in mortgage inquiries. We expect emerging verticals to be up mid-single digit.

Speaker #4: We expect revenue of between 4.524 and 54.54 $4 billion . We expect organic constant currency revenue growth of 8% in increase from our prior guidance of 6 to 7% , excluding mortgage .

Speaker #4: We expect organic constant currency growth of 5% to 6%. These growth rates include a 1% headwind from last year's breach win comparison specific to our segment. In our organic constant currency assumptions, we expect U.S. markets to be up high.

Speaker #4: Single digits or mid-single digits, excluding mortgage. We now anticipate financial services to be up mid-teens, or roughly 10%, excluding mortgage. We expect mortgage revenue to increase by nearly 30% against modest declines in mortgage inquiries.

Speaker #4: We expect emerging verticals to be up mid-single digit . We anticipate consumer interactive decreasing low single digit , but increasing low single digit when excluding the impact of last year's large breach win .

Todd Cello: We anticipate Consumer Interactive decreasing low single digit but increasing low single digit when excluding the impact of last year's large breach win. We now anticipate international growing mid-single digit. Turning back to the total company outlook, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be between $1.622 billion and $1.637 billion, up 8% to 9%, an increase from our prior guidance of 5% to 7%. That would result in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 35.9% to 36.0%, down 10 basis points to flat. We anticipate adjusted diluted earnings per share to be $4.19 to $4.25, up 7% to 9%, also an increase from prior guidance of 3% to 6% growth. Our expected adjusted diluted earnings per share growth reflects strong double-digit underlying performance, excluding a 400 basis point headwind from a higher tax rate in 2025. We expect depreciation and amortization to be approximately $570 million.

Speaker #4: We now anticipate international growing mid-single digit . Turning back to the total company outlook , we expect adjusted EBITDA to be between 1.62 .

Speaker #4: Two and $1.637 billion , up 8 to 9% , an increase from our prior guidance of 5 to 7% . That would result in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 35.9 to 36.0% , down ten basis points to flat .

Speaker #4: Anticipate adjusted diluted earnings per share to be $4.19 to $4.25 , up 7 to 9% . Also an increase from prior guidance of 3 to 6% growth .

Speaker #4: Our expected adjusted diluted earnings per share growth reflects strong double digit underlying performance , excluding a 400 basis headwind from a higher tax rate in 2025 , we expect depreciation and amortization to be approximately $570 million .

Speaker #4: We expect the portion excluding step up amortization from our 2012 change in control and subsequent acquisitions to be about $285 million . As technology modernization initiatives go into production and start to depreciate , we anticipate net interest expense will be about $200 million for the full year , and we expect our adjusted tax rate to be approximately 26.5% .

Todd Cello: We expect the portion excluding step-up amortization from our 2012 change in control and subsequent acquisitions to be about $285 million, as technology modernization initiatives go into production and start to depreciate. We anticipate net interest expense will be about $200 million for the full year, and we expect our adjusted tax rate to be approximately 26.5%. Capital expenditures are expected to be about 8% of revenue. We continue to expect to incur $100 million to $120 million in one-time charges in 2025 related to the last year of our transformation program. Given those investments, we expect our free cash flow conversion as a percentage of adjusted net income to be 70% in 2025 before improving to 90% plus in 2026. I will now turn the call back to Chris for closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Capital expenditures are expected to be about 8% of revenue . We continue to expect to incur 100 to $120 million in one time charges in 2025 , related to the last year of our transformation program , given those investments , we expect our free cash flow conversion as a percentage of adjusted net income to be 70% in 2025 .

Speaker #4: Before improving to 90% plus in 2026 . I will now turn the call back to Chris for closing remarks .

Speaker #3: Thank you Todd . So I'd like to provide some perspective on the recent changes in the mortgage market , both in terms of score , competition and also distribution .

Chris Cartwright: Thank you, Todd. I'd like to provide some perspective on the recent changes in the mortgage market, both in terms of score competition and also distribution. We believe that these changes are a net positive for TransUnion, enabling us to fully leverage our leading trended and alternative data to the benefit of home buyers. Additionally, we believe that the introduction of score competition will redistribute the economic value in the mortgage credit market towards data providers and away from scores. This is what we experience in all markets where score competition exists. It's our extensive contributed data from thousands of lenders that forms the foundation of value in mortgage credit decisions, not the score. We expect the proportion of value associated with data to increase over time now that competition is possible.

Speaker #3: We believe that these changes are a net positive for TransUnion , enabling us to fully leverage our leading trended and alternative data to the benefit of home buyers .

Speaker #3: Additionally , we believe that the introduction of score competition will redistribute the economic value in the mortgage credit market towards data providers in away from scores .

Speaker #3: And this is what we experience in all markets where score competition exists. It's our extensive contributed data from thousands of lenders that forms the foundation of value in mortgage credit decisions, not the score.

Speaker #3: And we expect the proportion of value associated with data to increase over time . Now that competition is possible , as a pioneer in trended data and an innovator in the alternative data space , T will empower mortgage lenders to reward consumers for responsible credit behaviors while preserving the safety and soundness of the mortgage market .

Chris Cartwright: As a pioneer in trended data and an innovator in the alternative data space, TransUnion will empower mortgage lenders to reward consumers for responsible credit behaviors while preserving the safety and soundness of the mortgage market. TransUnion is the only bureau with 30 months of trended credit data, creating the most complete picture of consumers. We continue to enhance our mortgage credit report with alternative data, including rental and utility trade lines and short-term lending attributes. Now, VantageScore 4.0 uses trended and alternative data to boost predictive accuracy and to expand financial access, scoring 33 million consumers that were previously credit invisible. The score is already used by the largest banks and 3,700 institutions in total, including increasingly in securitization. Additionally, VantageScore is the leading credit score for credit education, serving 220 million consumers.

Speaker #3: TransUnion is the only bureau with 30 months of trended credit data , creating the most complete picture of consumers , and we continue to enhance our mortgage credit report with alternative data , including rental and utility trade lines and short term lending attributes .

Speaker #3: Now , Vantagescore 4.0 uses trended and alternative data to . Boost predictive accuracy and to expand financial access . Scoring 33 million consumers that were previously credit invisible , and the scores already used by the largest banks and 3700 institutions in total , including increasingly in securitization .

Speaker #3: Additionally , Vantagescore is the leading credit score for credit education , serving 220 million consumers . So we believe that the combination of Transunion's leading trended and alternative data alongside Vantagescore 4.0 will shape a new era of more inclusive mortgage access , benefiting homebuyers , lenders and investors .

Chris Cartwright: We believe that the combination of TransUnion's leading trended and alternative data, alongside VantageScore 4.0, will shape a new era of more inclusive mortgage access, benefiting home buyers, lenders, and investors. We provided further details on the importance of TransUnion in the lending ecosystem and the value proposition of the VantageScore in our appendix of this earnings presentation. Starting in 2026, we're expanding our mortgage credit offerings to accelerate VantageScore adoption. First, we'll offer VantageScore 4.0 at $4, significantly below FICO's announced price hike to $10. For customers that adopt VantageScore 4.0, the cost for a credit report plus a score in 2026 will be similar to the cost of a credit report plus the FICO score in 2025. To enable lender choice, we'll also provide a free VantageScore 4.0 for mortgage customers that purchase a FICO score from TransUnion through the end of 2026.

Speaker #3: And we've provided further details on the importance of TransUnion in the lending ecosystem and the value proposition of the vantage score in our appendix of this earnings presentation .

Speaker #3: So starting in 26 , we're expanding our mortgage credit offerings to accelerate Vantagescore adoption . First , we'll offer Vantagescore 4.0 at $4 , significantly below Fico's announced price hike to $10 for customers that adopt vantage 4.0 .

Speaker #3: The cost for a credit report plus a score in 26 , will be similar to the cost of a credit credit report . Plus , the Fico score in 25 .

Speaker #3: Now, to enable lender choice, we'll also provide a free VantageScore for $0 for mortgage customers that purchase a FICO score from TransUnion through the end of 2026.

Speaker #3: We'll also offer multi-year pricing for credit reports and vantagescore for zero to promote certainty . After multiple years of rapid Fico price increases .

Chris Cartwright: We'll also offer multi-year pricing for credit reports and VantageScore 4.0 to promote certainty after multiple years of rapid FICO price increases. We'll launch a free VantageScore credit score simulator to empower prospective home buyers to improve their credit scores and qualify for the best possible mortgage terms. These offerings provide clear cost savings and predictable pricing for clients, emphasizing that the main value in lending is in the data. Our actions will preserve the profitability of our mortgage vertical, regardless of changes in third-party score delivery models. For TransUnion, VantageScore adoption represents an incremental profit and margin opportunity over time. Looking at the industry broadly, even a modest recovery in mortgage activity would boost already attractive financial results. Mortgage originations in 2025 are roughly 40% below 2019 levels and at their lowest levels since the middle of the 1990s.

Speaker #3: And we'll launch a free Vantagescore credit score simulator to empower prospective home buyers to improve their credit scores and qualify for the best possible mortgage terms .

Speaker #3: So these offerings provide clear cost savings and predictable pricing for clients , emphasizing that the main value in lending is in the data , our actions will preserve the profitability of our mortgage vertical , regardless of changes in third party score delivery models for two Vantagescore adoption represents an incremental profit and margin opportunity over time .

Speaker #3: So looking at the industry broadly , even a modest recovery in mortgage activity would boost already attractive financial results . Mortgage originations in 2025 are roughly 40% below 2019 levels , and at their lowest levels since the middle of the 90s .

Speaker #3: Despite this volume decline , we have built a strong profit base in mortgage . This year , we expect to deliver 580 million in mortgage revenues , or 395 million when excluding the 185 million of no margin .

Chris Cartwright: Despite this volume decline, we have built a strong profit base in mortgage. This year, we expect to deliver $580 million in mortgage revenues or $395 million when excluding the $185 million of no margin FICO royalties. We expect an eventual normalization in mortgage activity with a pace largely determined by interest rates. Lower rates would drive substantial refinancing activity and start to unlock home purchase demand. Currently, over 9 million mortgages have rates above 6%, compared to 5 million total mortgage originations in 2024. If the average rates fall below 6%, we expect a significant increase in market activity. This normalization would significantly boost our earnings. Every 10% increase in mortgage volumes would add $40 million of adjusted EBITDA and $0.15 to our earnings. A full recovery to 2019 levels equates to $240 million of adjusted EBITDA increase or $0.90 in our earnings.

Speaker #3: FICO royalties. Now, we expect an eventual normalization in mortgage activity, with the pace largely determined by interest rates. Lower rates would drive substantial refinancing activity and start to unlock home purchase demand.

Speaker #3: Currently , over 9 million mortgages have rates above 6% , compared to 5 million total mortgage originations in 2024 . So if the average rates fall below 6% , we expect a significant increase in market activity .

Speaker #3: This normalization would significantly boost our earnings every 10% increase in mortgage volumes would add $40 million of adjusted EBITDA in $0.15 to our earnings .

Speaker #3: A full recovery to 2019 levels equates to $240 million of adjusted EBITDA increase , or $0.90 , in our earnings . And this represents a 20% increase to 2025 .

Chris Cartwright: This represents a 20% increase to 2025's adjusted diluted earnings per share. Any volume normalization would be in addition to the typical growth drivers in mortgage of pricing and innovation-led new business wins, as well as the upside from VantageScore adoption. Lower interest rates would drive incremental volume demands across all lending categories, which also remain below the long-term trends. Taking this together, we remain confident in navigating this evolving mortgage landscape to maintain our attractive financial profile with upside from VantageScore adoption, as well as an eventual recovery in lending volumes. In closing, TransUnion's strong third quarter and year-to-date results highlight the benefits of our multi-year strategic transformation. We view the high single-digit revenue growth and the double-digit underlying EPS growth in each of the last two years as indicative of the long-term earnings power of our business in stable conditions.

Speaker #3: Adjusted diluted earnings per share . Any volume normalization would be in addition to the typical growth drivers in mortgage of pricing and innovation led new business wins , as well as the upside from Vantagescore adoption in lower interest rates would drive incremental volume demands across all lending categories , which also remain below the long term trends .

Speaker #3: So taking this together , we remain confident in navigating this evolving mortgage landscape to maintain our attractive financial profile with upside from vantagescore adoption , as well as an eventual recovery in lending volumes .

Speaker #3: Now , in closing , TransUnion strong third quarter and year to date results highlight the benefits of our multi-year strategic transformation . We view the high single digit revenue growth and the double digit underlying EPs growth in each of the last two years .

Speaker #3: As indicative of the long term earnings power of our business in stable conditions and going forward , we're poised to accelerate growth and efficiency , powered by our modern technology platform and the most innovative products in our history .

Chris Cartwright: Going forward, we're poised to accelerate growth and efficiency powered by our modern technology platform and the most innovative products in our history. We're just beginning to tap the potential in large and growing markets such as credit analytics, fraud, marketing, and Trusted Call Solutions. We've also reinvigorated our consumer business. We see growth upside in each of these businesses because of recent product innovation and our expanded go-to-market efforts. This is in addition to any benefit from normalization in U.S. mortgage, as well as India returning to its typical growth algorithm. Our industry-leading growth in enhanced free cash flow generation will enable us to accelerate capital returns to shareholders while continuing to invest thoughtfully in innovation and expansion.

Speaker #3: We're just beginning to tap the potential in large and growing markets such as credit analytics, fraud marketing, and trusted call solutions. And we've also reinvigorated our consumer business.

Speaker #3: We see growth upside in each of these businesses because of recent product innovation , and our expanded go to market efforts . And this is in addition to any benefit from normalization in US mortgage , as well as India returning to its typical growth algorithm , though our industry leading growth in enhanced free cash flow generation will enable us to accelerate capital returns to shareholders while continuing to invest thoughtfully in innovation and expansion .

Speaker #3: So, we plan to share more about our technology transformation, product innovations, and accelerating commercial momentum, as well as updating our medium-term financial framework at an investor day that we will host in early 2026.

Chris Cartwright: We plan to share more about our technology transformation, product innovations, and accelerating commercial momentum, as well as updating our medium-term financial framework at an investor day that we will host in early 2026. With that, let me turn it back to Greg.

Speaker #3: And so with that , let me turn it back to Greg .

Speaker #2: That concludes our prepared remarks for the Q&A . We ask that each ask only one question so that we can include more participants .

Gregory Bardi: That concludes our prepared remarks. For the Q&A, we ask that each ask only one question so that we can include more participants. Operator, we can begin the Q&A.

Speaker #2: Operator . We can begin the Q&A .

Speaker #1: Thank you . We will now begin the question and answer session to ask a question . You may press star then one on your telephone keypad .

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Speaker #5: Good morning . I appreciate the left side of slide four . This is the slide that breaks down the growth drivers by bars .

[Analyst 1]: Good morning. I appreciate the left side of slide four. This is the slide that breaks down the growth drivers by bars and colored bars in the U.S. market. I particularly wanted to ask, you know, how much of the U.S. market growth here on slide four is coming from FICO pricing pass-through? I'm just assuming that is on the green bar of pricing. You can correct me if I'm wrong. While you're looking at the green bars, if you could just comment on the other green bars, the volume growth, that's credit volume growth, and the non-credit growth green bars. Do you think TransUnion is growing with market or gaining share relative to end market activity?

Speaker #5: And colored bars in US market . I particularly wanted to ask how much of the US market growth here on slide four is coming from Fico pricing pass through , and I'm just assuming that is on the green bar of pricing .

Speaker #5: You can correct me if I'm wrong . And while you're looking at the green bars , if you could just comment on on the other green bars , the volume growth , that's credit volume growth and the non-credit growth green bars , do you think TransUnion is growing with market or gaining share relative to end market activity ?

Speaker #4: Good morning Andrew . This is Todd .

Todd Cello: Good morning, Andrew. This is Todd. I'll take that question. As it pertains to pricing, when we look at, you know, that 5%, I would say a good portion of that relates to the mortgage pricing. There still is pricing that TransUnion does take, and we do have a pretty robust process to have price increases on an annual basis. The majority of that is primarily related to mortgage. If we look at the other green bars, the volumes in particular do speak to the growth that we have been experiencing within credit. We articulated that, talked specifically about within financial services, excluding mortgage. Saw some really good growth in consumer lending. Credit card and banking also was up a little bit, and auto is, you know, kind of held its own. Other than that, we are seeing good volume growth outside, within the emerging verticals as well.

Speaker #6: I'll take that question . So as it pertains to pricing , when we look at , you know , that 5% , I would say , you know , a good portion of that relates to the mortgage pricing .

Speaker #6: But there still is pricing that TransUnion does take . And we do have a pretty robust process , you know , to pass price increases on on an annual basis .

Speaker #6: But say , the say the majority of that is primarily related to mortgage . If we look at the other green bars , the volumes in particular do speak to the growth that we have been experiencing .

Speaker #4: You know , within credit . So we articulated that , talked specifically about within financial services , excluding mortgage , saw some really good growth in consumer lending , credit card and banking also was up a little bit .

Speaker #4: And auto is , you know , kind of held its own . Other than that , like we are seeing good volume growth .

Speaker #4: You know , outside within the of the emerging verticals as well . If you look at non credit growth , think of that as our trusted call solution capabilities .

Todd Cello: If you look at non-credit growth, think of that as our Trusted Call Solutions capabilities. Think of that as marketing, as well as fraud. In the third quarter, we saw very strong growth continue in Trusted Call Solutions. Encouragingly, marketing posted a very good, solid quarter. You can see that when you look through to the emerging vertical. Overall growth rate at 7.5%.

Speaker #4: Think of that as marketing as well as fraud . And in particular in the third quarter we saw very strong growth continue in trusted call solutions .

Speaker #4: And encouragingly , marketing posed a very good solid quarter . And you can see that when you look through to the emerging vertical overall growth rate at 7.5% .

Speaker #4: .

Speaker #5: Great , thanks , Todd .

Gregory Bardi: Great. Thanks, Todd.

Speaker #4: And let me just add on to that too . You know , one one last thing is that the you know , I just talked about the volumes in that first bar , but the bar clearly has wins in there as well to .

Todd Cello: I'll just add on to that too. One last thing is that I just talked about the volumes in that first bar, but the bar clearly has wins in there as well too. I'd be remiss to not recognize the terrific work that our sales team has done, and continuing to build our pipeline, convert that to bookings, and ultimately, enjoy the revenue recognition that you're seeing here.

Speaker #4: So I'd be remiss to not recognize the , you know , the terrific work , you know , that our sales team has done .

Speaker #4: And continuing to build our pipeline , convert that to bookings and on ultimately enjoy the revenue recognition that you're seeing here .

Speaker #3: Yeah . And look , if I can add my $0.02 , Andrew , obviously to compare our results to the market , you got to do some slicing and dicing for non-comparable lines of businesses and such .

Chris Cartwright: Yeah. If I can add my two cents, Andrew, obviously, to compare our results to the market, you have to do some slicing and dicing for non-comparable lines of businesses and such between the different players. You know, when we isolate it down to financial services performance, we think we're materially outgrowing the market. A lot of it is due to our new innovation. The FactorTrust score has really reinvigorated our growth across consumer lending. We think we are gaining share. When you adjust for mortgage, which is a bit of a constant between the several bureaus, our growth rate is more than double that of what we see elsewhere in the market.

Speaker #3: Between the different players , you know , when we isolate it down to financial services performance , we think we're materially outgrowing the market .

Speaker #3: A lot of it is due to our new innovation. The Factor Trust Score has really reinvigorated our growth across consumer lending. And so, yeah, we think we are gaining share.

Speaker #3: And when you adjust for mortgage , which is a bit of a constant between the several bureaus , our growth rate is more than double that of of what we see elsewhere in the market .

Speaker #5: Great . Thanks , Chris .

Gregory Bardi: Great. Thanks, Chris.

Speaker #1: The next question is from Jeff Mueller of BRD. Please go ahead.

[Operator]: The next question is from Jeff Mueller III. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Yeah . Thank you . Good morning . So really nice quarter . They've been good for a while now I want to ask about the pace of investment .

[Analyst 2]: Thank you. Good morning. Really nice quarter that's been good for a while now. I want to ask about the pace of investment. There was a nice EBITDA beat to go along with really good revenue growth, but the flow-through on the revenue upside was lower than it sometimes is on big revenue beats, especially when you're at 11% underlying growth. My question, are you incrementally, I guess, reinvesting into strength? If it's incremental investment, what is it in? Is it some of the AI initiatives ahead of productivity and revenue benefit, or what is it? Any updated framework you can give on how to think about margins beyond 25%? Thank you.

Speaker #7: There was a nice EBITDA beat to go along with really good revenue growth . But the flow through on the revenue upside was lower than it sometimes is on big revenue beats , especially when you're at 11% underlying growth .

Speaker #7: So my question you incrementally I guess , reinvesting into strength . And if it's incremental investment , what is it in like is it some of the AI initiatives ahead of productivity and revenue benefit or what is it .

Speaker #7: And any framework updated framework you can give on how to think about margins beyond 25 ? Thank you .

Speaker #3: Yeah . Well , listen for sure , Andrew , I think you characterized it . Oh sorry Jeff . Apologies . I think you characterized it right that we are accelerating investments given the financial strength that we're delivering in 2025 .

Chris Cartwright: Yeah. Listen, for sure, Jeff. Apologies. I think you characterized it right that we are accelerating investments given the financial strength that we're delivering in 2025. Just pulling back the frame a little bit, you know, we're very happy with how we're performing, not just in the quarter, but you know how we're set up to perform in 2025 and really over the past couple of years. We're talking, you know, very high single-digit organic compounding growth. We've got margin expansion. We've got low double-digit EPS growth when you make, you know, sensible adjustments to the numbers. We're highly confident that we're going to deliver on all of these metrics, including our 36% margin guide.

Speaker #3: I mean , just pulling back the the frame a little bit , you know , we're very happy with how we're performing , not just in the quarter , but you know , how we're set up to perform in 25 .

Speaker #3: And really over the past couple of years , we're talking , you know , very high single digit organic compounding growth . We've got margin expansion .

Speaker #3: We've got low double digit EPs growth . When you make sensible adjustments to the numbers , and we're highly confident that we're going to deliver on all of these metrics , including our 36% margin guide .

Speaker #3: I would also point out that our guide for the remainder of the year , you know , the fourth quarter and full year maintains our prudent conservatism , which I think you guys know means if conditions persist , as we have experienced them in the quarter and for most of the year , we would expect to outperform the high end of this guidance .

Chris Cartwright: I would also point out that our guide for the remainder of the year, you know, the fourth quarter and the full year, maintains our prudent conservatism, which I think you guys know means if conditions persist, as we have experienced them in the quarter and for most of the year, we would expect to outperform the high end of this guidance. In terms of the fall-through, the strong outperformance has given us a chance to continue our product innovation, to invest in AI areas like I highlighted. We had a slide on that in the deck, and I talked about how, you know, where AI is really permeating much of our product and some of our new feature functionality for using our new analytics platform.

Speaker #3: So in terms of the fall through , look , the strong outperformance has given us a chance to continue our product innovation to invest in AI areas like I highlighted , we had a slide on that in the deck .

Speaker #3: And I talked about how , you know , we're AI is really permeating much of our product and some of our new feature functionality for using our new analytics platform .

Speaker #3: But additionally , we're growing our go to market effort across all of our new product lines because we want to make sure that we can continue to compound the top line at this level , going forward .

Chris Cartwright: Additionally, we're growing our go-to-market effort across all of our new product lines because we want to make sure that we can continue to compound the top line at this level going forward. Hopefully, that gives you what you need.

Speaker #3: So hopefully that gives you what you need .

Speaker #4: Good question . I think I heard you talk about 26 , Andrew . So let me let me kind of , you know , sorry , Jeff .

Todd Cello: I think I heard you talk about '26, Andrew. Let me, I'm sorry, Jeff. I call you Andrew now too. Jeff, 2026, as far as how we're thinking about margins, I think our expectations are for what we would characterize to be solid expansion in '26. If conditions stay the way that they are, revenue growth plus the remaining savings from our transformation program will allow us to achieve that solid margin expansion while also allowing us to invest back in the business, just like what Chris just talked through. That's an important point. Also, we're committed, just to reiterate a point we made in our prepared remarks, to stop the transformation program adjustments. That will end at the end of 2025.

Speaker #4: I call you Andrew . Now to so Jeff , you know , 2026 as far as how we're thinking about margins , I think our expectations are for what we would characterize to be solid expansion in 26 .

Speaker #4: So if conditions stay the way that they are , revenue growth plus the remaining savings from our transformation program will allow us to achieve that solid margin expansion while also allowing us to invest back in the business .

Speaker #4: So just like what Chris just talked through , so that's , an important point . Also , we're committed just to reiterate a point we made in our prepared remarks to stop the transformation program adjustments .

Speaker #4: So that will end at the end of 2025 . I think it's important to call out here that , you know , when we announced that program in November of 2023 , we called for that spend to be between 355 million and $375 million .

Todd Cello: I think it's important to call out here that when we announced that program in November of 2023, we called for that spend to be between $355 million and $375 million. We've managed to that budget, and we've hit our deliverables. That's been a big focus for us internally. Really proud of what the team has been able to accomplish there. The other part, when we think about 2026, let's not forget that we're also planning to reduce our capital expenditures down from about 8% to 6% of revenues. The margin expansion plus the CapEx coming down to 6% nets us to a 90% plus free cash flow conversion, which we've had our eyes on since the beginning of this transformation program two years ago.

Speaker #4: We've managed to stay within that budget and we've hit our deliverables, so that has been a big focus for us internally. I'm really proud of what the team has been able to accomplish there.

Speaker #4: The other part , when we think about 2026 , not forget that we're also planning to reduce our capital expenditures down from about 8% to 6% of revenues .

Speaker #4: So you know , the the margin expansion plus the CapEx coming down to 6% , that's us to a 90% plus free cash flow conversion , which we've had our eyes on , you know , since the beginning of this transformation program .

Speaker #4: Two years ago .

Speaker #3: Yeah . Good point .

Chris Cartwright: Yeah, good point.

Speaker #8: Thank you .

[Analyst 2]: Thank you.

Speaker #1: The next question is from Pfizer , also of Deutsche Bank . Please go ahead .

[Operator]: The next question is from Faiza Alwi of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker #9: Yes . Hi . Thank you . Good morning . I wanted to ask about the really strong growth you had in emerging verticals .

[Analyst 3]: Yes. Hi. Thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask about the really strong growth you had in emerging verticals. I'm curious, how do you think about the sustainability of that growth? I know you're still guiding to mid-single digits for the year. Was there anything sort of one-time related? Maybe if you can remind us around how much of your business is subscription related and what you're seeing from a new business perspective here.

Speaker #9: And I'm curious , how do you think about the sustainability of that growth ? I know you're still guiding to mid-single digits for the year , but was there anything sort of one time related ?

Speaker #9: And maybe if you can remind us around how much of this business is subscription related and what you're seeing from a , you know , new , new business perspective here ?

Speaker #3: Yeah . Thanks for the question . And look , there's nothing anomalous in the third quarter results for emerging verticals . There's nothing that is one time or that you need to make an adjustment for , you know , obviously it's been a little bit bumpy in the past couple of years as we've been raising our growth rate in emerging from low single to now high single digits .

Chris Cartwright: Yeah. Thanks for the question. Look, there's nothing anomalous in the third quarter results for emerging verticals. There's nothing that is one-time or that you need to make an adjustment for. Obviously, it's been a little bit bumpy in the past couple of years as we've been raising our growth rate and emerging from low single to now high single digits. We've got a stable foundation of revenue performance across almost all the vertical components of emerging. We had to get through some volatility in the tenant and employment because of CFPB changes and the like. The only component I think that is not performing right now is public sector, which is relatively small for us, but we used to be able to count on it for low double-digit growth. DOGE kind of interrupted that.

Speaker #3: You know , we've got a stable foundation of revenue performance across almost all the vertical components of emerging . You know , we had to get through some volatility in the tenant and employment because of CFPB changes and and the like .

Speaker #3: And the only component , I think that is not performing right now is public sector , which is relatively small for us . But we used to be able to count on it for low double digit growth .

Speaker #3: Doge kind of interrupted that shutdowns . Probably not going to help , but there's no reason in the intermediate future with stability that our solutions don't start growing at low double digits again .

Chris Cartwright: Shutdown is probably not going to help, but there's no reason in the intermediate future with stability that our solutions don't start growing at low double digits again. Now, with that said, what's driving the improvements in the growth are, first, insurance. Insurance has been a solid double-digit organic grower for the past couple of years. We're doing exceptionally well there. We've got terrific products, particularly our driver's risk solutions. We estimate now with current policy levels that we touch 50% of all policies that are being underwritten in the U.S. It's a fantastic and growthful position that will continue. We've also really grown well in our Trusted Call, in our communication solutions. That's, again, a double-digit grower. There's a lot of addressable market ahead of us. There's a lot of opportunity to expand those solutions internationally. Marketing has been reinvigorated.

Speaker #3: Now , with that said , what's driving the improvements in the growth are first , insurance . Insurance has been a solid , you know , double digit organic grower for the past couple of years .

Speaker #3: We're doing exceptionally well there . We've got terrific products , particularly our drivers risk solutions , and we estimate now with current policy levels that we touch 50% of all policies that are being underwritten in the US .

Speaker #3: So it's a fantastic and growth position that will continue . We've also really grown well in our trusted call in our communication solutions .

Speaker #3: That's again a double digit grower . There's a lot of addressable market ahead of us . There's a lot of opportunity to expand those solutions internationally and marketing has been reinvigorated .

Speaker #3: You know, marketing has been a target for tremendous reinvestment over these past couple of years. We launched our True Audience marketing solution.

Chris Cartwright: Marketing has been a target for tremendous reinvestment over these past couple of years. We launched our True Audience marketing solution. It's now, we've gone from just dozens and dozens of point solutions into an integrated end-to-end workflow solutions for marketers. Our audience data, our onboarding revenues, and most importantly, our core identity resolution, which really leads the market, are performing exceptionally well. Fraud's contributing. Investigative solutions, all of them are showing improved revenue performance. Our goal is to get this number up and to really take advantage of some very large and fast-growing markets.

Speaker #3: It's now , you know , we've gone from just dozens and dozens of point solutions into an integrated end to end workflow solutions for marketers .

Speaker #3: And our audience . Data are onboarding revenues . And most importantly , our core identity resolution , which really leads the market are performing exceptionally well .

Speaker #3: Frauds contributing . You know , investigative solutions , all of them are showing improved revenue performance . So , you know , our goal is to get this number up and and to really take advantage of some very large and fast growing markets .

Speaker #9: Great . Thank you . Growth .

[Operator]: Great. Thank you, Greg. The next question is from Tony Kaplan of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: The next question is from Toni Kaplan of Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead .

Speaker #10: Thanks so much , Chris . Thanks for going through your AI solutions in the prepared remarks , I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about your proprietary data and particularly how your positioned in the marketing business , but also across other parts of the business .

[Analyst 4]: Thanks so much. Chris, thanks for going through your AI solutions in the prepared remarks. I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about your proprietary data and particularly how you're positioned in the marketing business, but also across other parts of the business. I think you did a great job, just wanted to hear more specifics on that. Thanks.

Speaker #10: I think you did a great job , but just wanted to hear more specifics on that . Thanks .

Speaker #3: Okay . Yeah , well , thanks for the question . And obviously AI concerns have permeated the info services space over the past couple of months , and there's been a lot of thought about who's position to win and who might be vulnerable .

Chris Cartwright: Okay. Thanks for the question. Obviously, AI concerns have permeated the info services space over the past couple of months. There's been a lot of thought about who's positioned to win and who might be vulnerable. As I articulated in the main deck, we feel like TransUnion and the bureaus overall are really positioned to be beneficiaries of AI because of the breadth and the proprietary nature of the data, the broad contributory network, and all of the levels of regulation around this information. You simply can't go out and crawl the web and get all of this credit information and then credential all of the customers who consume it and then ensure that those customers are only using it in regulatorily approved ways. That can't happen, right? We've got this proprietary defensible foundation of information.

Speaker #3: And , you know , as I articulated in the main deck , I mean , we feel like TransUnion and the Bureau's overall are really positioned to be beneficiaries of AI because of the breadth and the proprietary nature of the data .

Speaker #3: The broad contributory network and all of the levels of regulation around this information . You know , you simply can't go out and crawl the web and get all of this credit information .

Speaker #3: And then credential all of the customers who consume it. And then ensure that those customers are only using it in regulatorily approved ways.

Speaker #3: That can't happen . Right ? So we've got this proprietary , defensible foundation of information . If you look at the marketing space , I mean , we are gathering information in marketing and fraud from literally tens of thousands of different touch points .

Chris Cartwright: If you look at the marketing space, we are gathering information in marketing and fraud from literally tens of thousands of different touchpoints. Many of them are not publicly accessible. That information, while it's not regulated by the Fair Credit Reporting Act, it is regulated by the Drivers' Privacy Protection Act, by GLB regulations overall. There are regulatory hurdles or moats, protections around this data. Our solutions not only take that foundation of data, but they combine all of the exhaust we get from providing marketing, in particular, audience activation and measurement services to the space, and they incorporate that back into the data foundation. There's a bit of a network effect that enriches our marketing data and our fraud data that makes it hugely defensible. Now, as we build AI on top of that foundation, as we move from. You

Speaker #3: Many of them are not publicly accessible . And that information , while it's not regulated by the Fair Credit Reporting Act , it is regulated by , you know , the driver's privacy Protection Act , by GLB regulations .

Speaker #3: Overall , again , there are regulatory hurdles or moats protections around this data . And then our solutions not only take that foundation of data , but they combine all of the exhaust .

Speaker #3: We get from providing marketing and particular audience activation . And measurement services to the space . And they incorporate that back into the data foundation .

Speaker #3: So there's a bit of a network effect that enriches our marketing data and our fraud data that makes it hugely defensible . Now , as we build AI on top of that foundation , as we move from , you know , advanced machine learning to more AI and generative techniques , it gives us an incremental growth opportunity because , look , the analytics and the insights that consumers derive from our data that leads them to take actions .

Chris Cartwright: Advanced machine learning to more AI and generative techniques gives us an incremental growth opportunity. Because, look, the analytics and the insights that consumers drive from our data, that leads them to take actions. A lot of those actions are embedded in software applications upstream, decisioning and other workflow applications. Increasingly, the AI agents that we're going to build are going to erode the value of the upstream software applications. Over time, our business, and as you look across our industry, we are going to evolve into integrated workflow platforms driven by proprietary data and analytics. We strongly believe that AI represents a massive growth unlock for the business. It's just going to take some time for the market to understand this and then recognize it.

Speaker #3: A lot of those actions are embedded in software applications . Upstream decisioning and other workflow applications . Increasingly , the AI agents that we're going to build are going to erode the value of the upstream software applications .

Speaker #3: And so over time , our business and as you look across our industry , we are going to evolve into integrated workflow platforms driven by proprietary data and analytics .

Speaker #3: So we strongly believe that AI represents a massive growth unlock for the business . And it's just going to take some time for the market to understand this .

Speaker #3: And then recognize it .

Speaker #10: Thank you .

Operator: Thank you.

Speaker #1: The next question is from Manav Patnaik of Barclays . Please go ahead .

Gregory Bardi: The next question is from Manav Patnaik of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker #11: Thank you . Chris , I just want to follow up on that last statement you made . I think , yes , the market will take some time to appreciate it , but is it also because it's going to take you guys some time to actually show that benefit in the revenue line item , and then maybe just on the cost side , does that help ?

Chris Cartwright: Thank you. Chris, I just want to follow up on that last statement you made. I think, yes, the market will take some time to appreciate it, but is it also because it's going to take you guys some time to actually show that benefit in the revenue line item? Maybe for Todd, just on the cost side, does that help? When can we start seeing that help your margin flow through?

Speaker #11: When can we start seeing that help your your margin flow through ?

Speaker #3: Yeah . Look fair question I mean look we've raised our guidance for the fourth quarter . But we didn't do it based on anticipated new AI revenues .

Chris Cartwright: Yeah, fair question, Manav. We've raised our guidance for the fourth quarter, but we didn't do it based on anticipated new AI revenues, right? If your perspective is the next quarter, it's going to take a little bit of time. In the intermediate term, you're going to start to see increases in wins and retentions and pricing power increases and absolute new categories of revenue develop quarter by quarter as we begin to utilize AI across the product suite. The other thing I would say is, internally, we're using AI to automate a lot of our customer service operations and our dispute resolution operations. We have thousands and thousands of people that service consumers around the world who have questions or concerns about their credit or the scores being calculated based on it.

Speaker #3: Right . And so if your perspective is the next quarter , it's going to take a little bit of time . In the intermediate term .

Speaker #3: You're going to start to see , you know , increases in wins and retentions and pricing power increases . And absolute new categories of revenue develop quarter by quarter as we begin to utilize AI across the product suite .

Speaker #3: The other thing I would say is , look internally we're using AI to automate a lot of our customer service operations in our dispute resolution operations , we have thousands and thousands of people that service consumers around the world who have questions or concerns about their credit or the scores being calculated based on it .

Speaker #3: We can do a better job servicing those consumers with AI enriched processes , and we're investing a lot to make that happen . And so I think that's going to allow us to continually improve service at much greater productivity over time .

Chris Cartwright: We can do a better job servicing those consumers with AI-enriched processes, and we're investing a lot to make that happen. I think that's going to allow us to continually improve service at much greater productivity over time. That will be a net positive to our margins going forward.

Speaker #3: That will be a net positive to our margins going forward .

Speaker #11: Thank you .

Chris Cartwright: Thank you.

Speaker #1: The next question is from Ashish Subadra of RBC Capital Markets . Please go ahead .

Gregory Bardi: The next question is from Ashish Sabhadra of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker #12: Thanks for taking my question and congrats on such solid results . I just wanted to ask a few questions on mortgage questions that we are getting a lot from investors .

Todd Cello: Thanks for taking my question and congrats on such solid results. I just wanted to ask a few questions on mortgage, questions that we are getting a lot from investors. First one was just around mortgage. Is there an opportunity for you to continue to raise prices on your data file, even in a FICO direct license model? Second is just some concerns around 3B to 2B. Have you heard anything on that front? Third would be just on the trigger marketing regulation. Could that have any impact to your revenues going forward? Thanks again.

Speaker #12: First one was just around . Mortgage . Is there opportunity for you to continue to raise prices on your data file , even in a Fico direct license model ?

Speaker #12: Second is just some concerns around 3D to 2D. Have you heard anything on that front? And third would be just on the trigger marketing regulation.

Speaker #12: Could that have any impact to your revenues going forward ? Thanks again .

Speaker #3: Hey Ashish , could you I didn't hear your the second component of your question . The first is , you know , the the change , the competition and the changes in the distribution model and go forward pricing power .

Chris Cartwright: Hey, Ashish, could you—I didn't hear the second component of your question. The first is the competition and the changes in the distribution model and go-forward pricing power. The third is about triggers. What was the second?

Speaker #3: And the third is about triggers . What was the second ?

Speaker #12: Just the 3 to 2 Bureau. Is there any potential risk there? Thank you.

Todd Cello: It's just the 3B to 2B. Is there any potential risk there? Thank you.

Speaker #3: Okay . Well look you know we've got our mortgage team at the Mortgage Bankers Association meeting which has been going on since Sunday .

Chris Cartwright: Okay. You know we've got our mortgage team at the Mortgage Bankers Association meeting, which has been going on since Sunday. We've had a ton of client interactions. All three bureaus have had their representatives on stage talking about their new integrated mortgage offerings to counter this latest and very aggressive price increase by FICO. I think you have to just stop for a second and realize that four years ago, the FICO score cost, I think it was $0.62. Today, we're talking $10. Resellers and lenders are really frustrated by the aggressive price increases that have been put through and put through on the eve of competition for the first time in 30 years in score pricing. What we have put forward is a superior score in the VantageScore 4.0 that is materially discounted against the incumbent score. It's a better score because it leverages trended data.

Speaker #3: We've had a ton of client interactions . All three bureaus have had their representatives on stage talking about their new integrated mortgage offerings to counter this latest and very aggressive price increase by Fico .

Speaker #3: I think you have to just stop for a second and realize that , you know , four years ago , the Fico score cost , I think it was $0.62 .

Speaker #3: Today we're talking , you know , $10 . And so resellers and lenders are really frustrated by the aggressive price increases that have been put through and put through on the eve of , you know , competition for the first time in 30 years in score pricing .

Speaker #3: Now, what we have put forward is a superior score in the Vantage 4.0. That is materially discounted against the incumbent score.

Speaker #3: It's a better score because it leverages trended data . It's going to allow us to score . You know , 30 million plus consumers that were previously unscorable , meaning that they couldn't qualify for a GSE mortgage because we were using a score that was point in time data .

Chris Cartwright: It's going to allow us to score 30 million plus consumers that were previously unscorable, meaning that they couldn't qualify for a GSE mortgage because we were using a score that was point-in-time data and not trended data. Trended data has been the standard for a decade in the mortgage industry, right? There's been a real lack of innovation in that regard. We're putting forth this score. It will allow us to unlock the power of our trended data and alternative data. We estimate 5 to 6 million more Americans will qualify for GSE-sponsored mortgages going forward. There is value there that I think TransUnion and the other bureaus will be able to capture while still saving the industry an enormous amount of cost, right? The industry is looking for this opportunity. For 30 years, the industry has not had choice.

Speaker #3: And not trended data . And trended data has been the standard for a decade in the mortgage industry , right ? So there's been a real lack of innovation in that regard .

Speaker #3: So we're putting forth this score . It will allow us to unlock the power of our trended data and alternative data . We estimate 5 to 6 million more Americans will qualify for GSE sponsored mortgages going forward .

Speaker #3: And there is value there that I think TransUnion and the other bureaus will be able to capture while still saving the industry an enormous amount of cost .

Speaker #3: Right . And so the industry is looking for this opportunity . Now , look , for 30 years , the industry has not had choice .

Speaker #3: And so much of it is calibrated to the Fico classic score . But the industry is hungering for change . They want greater financial inclusion because that means more customers for them to make loans to the GSEs , care about financial inclusion , and they also care about safety and soundness .

Chris Cartwright: Much of it is calibrated to the FICO classic score. The industry is hungering for change. They want greater financial inclusion because that means more customers for them to make loans to. The GSEs care about financial inclusion, and they also care about safety and soundness. For 10 years, they've insisted upon trended data from the bureaus because they know it works better, right? Now the stars are aligning to really support what I think will be a material share shift over time. Yes, it's going to take some time to warm up the engine. We have already helped a number of clients move off of the FICO score. Synchrony moved to VantageScore for underwriting their card portfolios some years ago. They wrote a white paper on how to do it. They've had teach-ins on how to do it. They securitized those mortgages.

Speaker #3: And for ten years , they've insisted upon trended data from the bureaus because they know it works better . Right ? So now the stars are aligning to really support what I think will be a material share shift over time .

Speaker #3: Yes , it's going to take some time to warm up the engine , but look , we have already helped a number of clients move off of the Fico score .

Speaker #3: Synchrony moved to vantage score for underwriting their card portfolios some years ago . They wrote a white paper on how to do it .

Speaker #3: They've had teach ins on how to do it . They securitize those mortgages . Community financial institutions have been , you know , under the vise of Fico price increases .

Chris Cartwright: Community financial institutions have been under the vice of FICO price increases. They hold a lot of their mortgages on their books. We have been converting many of them over to the VantageScore and trended data for years, okay? It's not like this can't happen. I think the industry is awakening to the opportunity. I think the entirety of the industry is going to start experimenting with this. I think over time, you're going to see material share shift to Vantage because it works better and it unlocks trended data, and the industry is fed up with the price increases. That's the first point. Now, triggers, we've essentially been out of the triggers business for years, right? We're not impacted by the changes in regulation or legislation.

Speaker #3: They hold a lot of their mortgages on their books . We have been converting many of them over to the vantage score and trended data for years .

Speaker #3: Okay . So it's not like this can't happen . I think the industry is awakening to the opportunity . I think the entirety of the industry is going to start experimenting with this , and I think over time you're going to see material share shift to vantage because it works better and it unlocks trended data .

Speaker #3: And the industry is fed up with the price increases . So that's the first point . Now triggers . We've essentially been out of the triggers business for years .

Speaker #3: Right . And so we're not impacted by , you know , the the changes in regulation or legislation . And look in terms of the tri merge , the Trimers is an important part of the safety and the security of the mortgage lending system in the US .

Chris Cartwright: In terms of the TriMerge, the TriMerge is an important part of the safety and the security of the mortgage lending system in the U.S. We've proven it out empirically. Neutral third parties like S&P have analyzed this. What they've observed is that in recent years, the three bureau files have started to diverge in terms of their data content. This era of accelerating alternative data on the credit files is just going to lead to further divergence. If you don't pull three files, the chances are you're not going to qualify somebody who could be qualified. It's a missed revenue opportunity. You're also not going to assess the risk as well as you will if you pull three files. You may end up charging people more on a very large and long-duration credit.

Speaker #3: We have proven it out empirically neutral third parties like S&P have analyzed this and what they've observed is that in recent years , the three bureau files have started to diverge in terms of their data content .

Speaker #3: This era of accelerating alternative data on the credit files is just going to lead to further divergence. If you don't pull three files, the chances are you're not going to qualify somebody who could be qualified.

Speaker #3: It's a revenue opportunity . You're also not going to assess the risk as well as you will . If you pull three files , and you may end up charging people more on a very large and long duration credit .

Speaker #3: And that higher rate is going to compound to a massive increase in the interest that a consumer pays . So for a very small cost , in the context of this larger transaction , you get greater financial inclusion , greater profitability and greater safety and soundness .

Chris Cartwright: That higher rate is going to compound to a massive increase in the interest that a consumer pays. For a very small cost in the context of this larger transaction, you get greater financial inclusion, greater profitability, and greater safety and soundness. For all of those reasons, which the FHFA understands very well, and there's an enormous amount of support on Capitol Hill for the TriMerge, I don't see any changes coming on that horizon.

Speaker #3: So for all of those reasons which the IFA understands very well , and there's an enormous amount of support on Capitol Hill for the tri merge , I don't see any changes coming on that horizon .

Speaker #3: .

Speaker #12: Very helpful. Thank you very much.

Todd Cello: Very helpful, sir. Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: The next question is from Scott Wurtzel of Wolfe Research . Please go ahead .

Gregory Bardi: The next question is from Scott Wurtzel of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker #13: Hey , good morning , guys , and thank you for taking my my question . Just wanted to go back to maybe some of the trends you're seeing on the fintech lender side .

[Operator]: Hey, good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my question. Just wanted to go back to maybe some of the trends you're seeing on the fintech lender side. It sounds like during the quarter itself, trends were pretty stable. Given some of the noise that we've heard around subprime credit and anything, just wondering if you can maybe talk about some of the trends you've seen since the end of September, early October on that side of the business. Thank you.

Speaker #13: It sounds like during the quarter itself , you know , trends were were pretty stable . But just given some of the noise that , you know , we've heard around , you know , subprime credit , anything .

Speaker #13: Just wondering if you can maybe talk about some of the trends you've seen since , you know , kind of the end of September , early October on that side of the business .

Speaker #13: Thank you .

Speaker #3: Well , look , let me pull back the lens and just talk about the overall market conditions that we're seeing in the health of the market .

Chris Cartwright: Let me pull back the lens and just talk about the overall market conditions that we're seeing and the health of the market. The broader context is coming out of COVID and coming out of this era of really cheap money in the U.S. In 2022 and 2023, we had to deal with declining volumes. In 2024 and 2025, we've largely had stable but muted lending levels. All lending categories are below the long-term trend. Mortgage lending is dramatically below the long-term trends. It's back to mid-1990s levels. I think we're in a period of stable to improving loan volumes. If you look at our results, 11% organic growth and with 13% in U.S. markets alone reflects really good volumes. We're not back to the long-term trend lines. When I look at my daily volume reports across all categories, I see material volume increases.

Speaker #3: I mean , look , the broader context is , you know , coming out of Covid and coming out of this era of really cheap money in the US in 22 and 23 , we had to deal with declining volumes in 24 and 25 .

Speaker #3: We've largely have stable but muted lending levels , all lending categories are below the long term trend . Mortgage lending is dramatically below the long term trends .

Speaker #3: It's back to mid 90s levels now . I think we're in a period of stable to improving loan volumes . I mean , if you look at our results , 11% organic growth and with 13% in US markets alone reflects , you know , really good volumes .

Speaker #3: Now , we're not back , you know , to the long term trend lines . But when I look at my daily volume reports across all categories , I see material volume increases .

Speaker #3: Part of that is because of the the soundness of the market . So it's macro driven . But a lot of it is based on our commercial success .

Chris Cartwright: Part of that is because of the soundness of the market. It's macro-driven. A lot of it is based on our commercial success, right, and the wins that we're racking up in the market and the dramatic performance improvements in our subprime-oriented credit scores, right, the factor trust scores. We're doing really well there. We see a market that's got decent GDP growth, lowering interest rates, a lot of stability in delinquencies. We have looked really hard here at the nominal debt levels of consumers of all risk tiers. I'm looking at their current levels back to 2019. You see in the media a lot of concern about the nominal increases in consumer leverage.

Speaker #3: Right . And the winds that we're racking up in the market and the dramatic performance improvements in our subprime oriented credit scores . Right .

Speaker #3: The factor trust scores . So , you know , we're doing really well there . And we see a market that's got decent GDP growth , lowering interest rates .

Speaker #3: A lot of stability in delinquencies . You know , we've looked really hard here at the nominal debt levels of consumers of all risk tiers .

Speaker #3: I'm looking at their current levels back to to 2019 . You see in the media a lot of concern about the nominal increases in consumer leverage .

Speaker #3: But when you ingest that for inflation and you ingest it for the substantial wage gains , particularly that lower income Americans have enjoyed over this period , they're their net indebtedness in 25 looks pretty much the same as 2019 .

Chris Cartwright: When you adjust that for inflation and you adjust it for the substantial wage gains, particularly that lower income Americans have enjoyed over this period, their net indebtedness in 2025 looks pretty much the same as 2019. I think the banks confirm this. We just had a round of bank reporting. All the results for the industry are quite solid. Lending volumes are increasing. Practically no one took any increase in their bad debt reserves, right? The industry feels good about the condition of the market. The industry feels good about the condition and lendability of the consumer. At the lower end in subprime, go back over the last eight quarters. Ask AI to do a media search for you. In every quarter, somebody's talking about instability in subprime, rising delinquencies, etc., etc.

Speaker #3: And I think the banks confirm this . I mean , we just had a round of bank reporting all the results for the industry are quite solid lending volumes are increasing and practically no one took any increase in their bad debt reserves .

Speaker #3: Right. So the industry feels good about the condition of the market, and the industry feels good about the condition and ability of the consumer.

Speaker #3: Now , at the lower end in subprime , I mean , look , go back over the last eight quarters , you know , ask AI to do a media search for you in every quarter .

Speaker #3: Somebody's talking about instability and subprime rising delinquencies , etcetera , etcetera . And despite those concerns , some of which are legitimate , we have managed to post market leading growth in every quarter .

Chris Cartwright: Despite those concerns, some of which are legitimate, we have managed to post market-leading growth in every quarter, right? Clearly, our foundation for growth is very broad-based across all risk tiers in the U.S. The portfolio is really representative of the broader lending ecosystem. It's not skewed toward subprime. If it were, we wouldn't have been able to outgrow the market for the past eight quarters. Those are my thoughts on that topic.

Speaker #3: Right ? So clearly , our foundation for growth is very broad , based across all risk tiers in the US . The portfolio is really representative of the broader lending ecosystem .

Speaker #3: It's not skewed toward subprime . If it were , we wouldn't have been able to outgrow the market for the past eight quarters .

Speaker #3: So those are my thoughts on that topic .

Speaker #13: Thank you .

[Operator]: Thank you.

Speaker #1: The next question comes from Craig Huber , Huber Research Partners . Please go ahead .

Gregory Bardi: The next question comes from Craig Huber with Huber Research Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker #14: Yeah . Hi . Good morning . Thank you . It's my understanding . Is out there that Vantagescore has about 5% market share in autos , credit cards , personal loans , etc.

[Analyst 1]: Yeah, hi. Good morning. Thank you. My understanding is that out there, the VantageScore has about 5% market share in autos, credit cards, personal loans, etc. Obviously, on the nonconforming part of mortgages, I believe it's basically negligible in the nonconforming piece. When we think about the pricing you guys have come out with for VantageScore for mortgages of $4 you just announced recently, Equifax obviously came out at $4.50 price. You talk about it versus $10 for FICO score. That is a huge cost savings. I could see your argument there. FICO has a second model out there, right, a brand new one at $5. Then there's a $33 fee on the back end if the mortgage closes. All this stuff, of course, gets paid by the consumer.

Speaker #14: obviously on the nonconforming part of mortgages , I believe it's it's basically negligible in the non-conforming piece . When we think about the pricing , you guys have come out with for vantagescore , for mortgages of $4 .

Speaker #14: You just announced , Equifax obviously came out of $4.50 a price . And then you talk about it versus $10 for Fico score .

Speaker #14: That is a huge cost savings . I can see your argument there , but obviously Fico has a second model out there , right ?

Speaker #14: A brand new one at $5 . But then there's a $33 fee on the back end . If the mortgage closes . All this stuff , of course , gets paid by the consumer .

Speaker #14: So if I'm the recently lender , if I'm the lender here , I'm going to be much more likely to go with the dollar option for Fico .

[Analyst 1]: If I'm the lender, if I'm the lender here, I'm going to be much more likely to go with the $5 option for FICO and then the $33 on the back end that the consumer pays for all of that, correct? If I'm the lender. In my mind, I'm comparing your $4 number to $5. Am I wrong on that? Also, can you comment on the 5% market share?

Speaker #14: And then the $33 on the back end that the consumer pays for all of that . Correct . If I'm the lender . So I'm comparing in my mind .

Speaker #14: I'm comparing your $4 number to $5 . Am I wrong on that ? And also , can you comment on the 5% market share ?

Speaker #3: Yeah . Well , look , the market share is low in these other areas , but I think , you know , I think that's derived in large part to the monopoly positioning in mortgage .

Chris Cartwright: Yeah. Look, the market share is low in these other areas, but I think that's derived in large part from the monopoly positioning in mortgage. Of course, for FICO, the profitability of the business is driven disproportionately out of mortgage where the pricing is high. I think now that all of these resellers are being forced to do the analytics behind the VantageScore in conversion, it just creates a very ripe opportunity for share shift. I think that's how it's going to play out over time. In terms of the success-based model or the booked fee model and in terms of shifting the calculation of the FICO score via the direct approach, I think that the resellers and the lenders, but particularly the resellers, are just starting to understand the complication with administering the model. It comes with a blizzard of complexity, right?

Speaker #3: And of course for Fico , the profitability of the business is driven , you know , disproportionately out of mortgage where the pricing is high .

Speaker #3: And I think now that all of these resellers are being forced to do the analytics behind the vantagescore and conversion , it just creates a very ripe opportunity for share shift .

Speaker #3: And I think that's how it's going to , you know , play out over time . Now , in terms of the the success based model or the booked fee model .

Speaker #3: And in terms of shifting the calculation of Fico score via the direct approach , I think that the resellers and the lenders , but particularly the resellers , are just starting to understand the complication with administering the model .

Speaker #3: It comes with a blizzard of complexity right ? The first is just the accuracy of the calculations themselves . As we've seen in the industry .

Chris Cartwright: The first is just the accuracy of the calculations themselves. As we've seen in the industry, sometimes there are errors. When there are errors, the question will be, who's responsible for that error? Secondly, today, none of the resellers are agents of the bureau. That's a status that's very difficult to attain. You have to have considerable cybersecurity investments and scrutiny. They've simply been consumers of the data and the output of a score calculation that we provide. Then they pass the three of them on to the GSEs or to their lending customers, right? Now they're going to have to increase their cybersecurity investments. They're going to have to increase their personnel investments to support potentially consumer dispute inquiries. The legal and the regulatory liability that they're going to have to assume is considerable. I don't think that any of that was really understood at the initial press release.

Speaker #3: Sometimes there are errors , and when there are errors , the question will be who's responsible for that error ? Secondly , you know , today none of the resellers are agents of the bureau .

Speaker #3: That's a status . That's very difficult to attain . You have to have considerable cyber security investments in scrutiny . And , you know , they've simply been consumers of the data and the output of a score calculation that we provide .

Speaker #3: And then they pass the three of them on to the Gse's or to their lending customers . Right . Well , now they're going to have to increase their cybersecurity investments .

Speaker #3: They're going to have to increase their personnel investments to support potentially consumer dispute inquiries . And the the legal and the regulatory liability that they're going to have to assume is considerable .

Speaker #3: Now , I don't think that any of that was really understood at the initial press release , but based on the feedback that we're getting from the NBA , you know , the resellers are now understanding that and they really have they don't really know how to handle that because it is really quite complicated .

Chris Cartwright: Based on the feedback that we're getting from the MBA, the resellers are now understanding that. They don't really know how to handle that because it is really quite complicated. It is fraught with a number of challenges that can have significant financial consequences.

Speaker #3: And it is fraught with a number of challenges that can have significant financial consequences.

Speaker #14: From your perspective , in 2026 , are you arguing that the changes that Fico have done for their pricing in the marketplace , from your perspective , given the changes with your own pricing , etc.

[Analyst 1]: From your perspective in 2026, are you viewing that the changes that FICO have done for their pricing in the marketplace, from your perspective, given the changes with your own pricing, that it will be neutral to you? In essence, you're raising the price on your credit file for mortgages basically to make up the lost FICO revenue and profit. Am I thinking about that correctly?

Speaker #14: , that you will be it will be neutral to you . In essence , you're raising the price on your credit file for mortgages , basically to make up the lost Fico revenue and profit .

Speaker #14: Am I thinking about that correctly ?

Speaker #3: Look , yes , look , the the measures that we have taken around our mortgage offerings in total actually hold the cost of the credit and the services that we provide related to credit constant between the years .

Chris Cartwright: Yes. Look, the measures that we have taken around our mortgage offerings in total actually hold the cost of the credit and the services that we provide related to credit constant between the years, right? We expect that we're going to protect our revenue and our profits regardless of who's calculating the FICO score and regardless of which model they choose, right? From there, I think we will have revenue growth and margin enhancement as we start to take share from FICO Classic.

Speaker #3: Right. And so we expect that we're going to protect our revenue and our profits, regardless of who's calculating the FICO score and regardless of which model they choose.

Speaker #3: Right . And then from there , I think we will have revenue growth and margin enhancement as we start to take share from Fico .

Speaker #3: Classic .

Speaker #14: So again , I'm sorry , in 26 , then you don't think from an EBITDA basis that the changes that Fico put in place here are going to change your outlook for next year is .

[Analyst 1]: In 2026, then, you don't think on an EBITDA basis that the changes that FICO have put in place here are going to change your outlook for next year?

Speaker #3: That is .

Chris Cartwright: That is correct.

Speaker #14: Correct ? You're okay . Thank you very much .

[Analyst 1]: That's correct for your take. Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: The last question will be Andrew Nicholas from William Blair . Please go ahead .

Gregory Bardi: The last question will be Andrew Nicholas from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker #15: Hi . Good morning . This is Tom Rochon for Andrew . Nicholas , thanks for taking my call . I wanted to touch on the trajectory of India growth .

Chris Cartwright: Hi, good morning. This is Tom Rush on for Andrew Nicholas. Thanks for taking my call. I wanted to touch on the trajectory of India growth. I think before the quarter, you were expecting to exit the year in high teens growth. I was just curious when you were thinking about getting back to that rate, could you see it happening next year? Relatedly, it sounds like the tariff impact was on the commercial lending part of the business. I was wondering how consumer lending within India tracks relative to your expectations in the quarter. Thank you.

Speaker #15: I think in the fourth quarter, you were expecting to exit the year with high teens growth. I was just curious about your thinking on when you might see that rate again. Could you see it happening next year?

Speaker #15: And then relatedly , it sounds like the tier of impact was on the commercial lending part of the business . So I was wondering how consumer lending within India tracked relative to your expectations in the quarter ?

Speaker #15: Thank you .

Speaker #3: Well , yeah . Well , look , the India situation is very fluid because , you know , we're in the middle geopolitically of intense negotiations around tariff and trade terms .

Chris Cartwright: The India situation is very fluid because we're in the middle geopolitically of intense negotiations around tariff and trade terms. We were very much pivoting back toward high teens growth in India in the fourth quarter when things went a little bit sour and the U.S. imposed a 50% tariff on all imports coming from India. The challenge there is that a good portion of the economy, about 30%, is driven by micro, small, and medium businesses, very entrepreneurially driven that are also export dependent. With this additional cloud hanging over, the banks have slowed lending to that segment, which has flowed through in the form of lower volumes to our leading bureau there, CIBIL, right? Things change pretty quickly in these trade negotiations. Could be here a month from now with stability restored and lending volumes increasing.

Speaker #3: And we were very much pivoting back toward high teens growth in India in the fourth quarter when things went a little bit sour in the U.S., which imposed a 50% tariff on all imports coming from India.

Speaker #3: Now , the challenge there is that a good portion of the economy , about 30% , is driven by micro , small and medium businesses .

Speaker #3: Very entrepreneurial , driven , that are also export dependent . And so with this additional cloud hanging over , the banks have slowed lending to that segment , which has flowed through in the form of lower volumes to our , you know , leading bureau .

Speaker #3: Their Cibil right now . Again , things change pretty quickly in these trade negotiations could be here a month from now with stability restored and lending volumes increasing .

Speaker #3: But what we do know is that India continues to be an awesome market. They've got 7% GDP growth. They've got inflation down to 3%.

Chris Cartwright: What we do know is that India continues to be an awesome market. They've got 7% GDP growth. They've got inflation down to 3%. They have a central bank, the RBI, that is growth-oriented, that has been enabling fintechs that support unsecured retail lenders to resume their operations, which was driving more volume. They've been cutting rates. All the macro factors are aligning for a resumption of terrific growth coming out of one of the largest and most attractive markets on the planet. We have hit a speed bump here with the 50% tariff. We're just going to have to wait until that gets resolved. I'm confident it will resolve. I think the U.S. and India are natural partners. There's a tremendous amount of trade that we'll do. Things do get heated in the course of negotiations. That has delayed the full recovery of that market a bit.

Speaker #3: They have a central bank . You know , the RBI that is growth oriented , that has been enabling fintechs that support unsecured retail lenders to resume their operations , which was driving more volume .

Speaker #3: They've been cutting rates . So all the macro factors are aligning for a resumption of terrific growth coming out of one of the largest and most attractive markets on the planet .

Speaker #3: But we have hit a speed bump here with the 50% tariff, and we're just going to have to wait until that gets resolved.

Speaker #3: I'm confident it will resolve . I think , you know , the U.S. and India are , you know , natural partners . And there's a tremendous amount of trade that we'll do .

Speaker #3: But , you know , things do get heated in the course of negotiations . And so that has delayed the full recovery of that market a bit .

Speaker #3: I'd say the other bright spot in India is that , I mean , look , we have 40% exposure to consumer credit . We're growing in all of our other categories .

Chris Cartwright: I'd say the other bright spot in India is that we have 40% exposure to consumer credit. We're growing in all of our other categories. We recently launched our analytics platform, TrueIQ in India, with a lot of interest from major bank clients. I think it's a whole new vector of growth that will both help us defend the massive market share that we have and then generate new revenues additionally.

Speaker #3: And we recently launched our our analytics platform , Tru IQ analytics in India . You know , with a lot of interest from major bank clients .

Speaker #3: And I think it's a whole new vector of growth that will both help us defend the massive market share that we have . And then generate new revenues .

Speaker #3: Additionally .

Speaker #4: Hey , Tom , I'm going to add on to that . You know , hopefully what you're hearing from Chris is the just the conviction that we have in the India business and the runway that's ahead for us .

Chris Cartwright: Hey, Tom, I'm going to add on to that. Hopefully, what you're hearing from Chris is just the conviction that we have in the India business and the runway that's ahead for us. You got to think about this longer term. When we take a step back and we think about just the overall portfolio of TransUnion and the businesses that we have and how diverse they are, I just want to call out, while India is very important to us, it does represent only about 7% of our total revenues. What's important to talk about that balance of the portfolio is if you go back to 2022 and 2023, when the more developed markets of the U.S., the UK, and Canada were in a slowdown because of high inflation and rising interest rates, the India business was growing in the 30% range.

Speaker #4: You got to think about this longer term . But when we take a step back and we think about just the overall portfolio of TransUnion and the businesses that we have and how diverse they are , I just want to call out , while India is very important to us , it does represent only about 7% of our total revenues .

Speaker #4: And what's important to talk about regarding the balance of the portfolio is that if you go back to 2022 and 2023, when the more developed markets of the U.S., the U.K., and Canada were in a slowdown due to high inflation and rising interest rates, the India business was growing in the 30% range.

Speaker #4: So right now there's some things going on in their market that Chris just articulated . So that revenue is down to 5% . But if you look across the portfolio now , markets like Canada and the UK are leading the international growth , 11% , you know , in the in the third quarter and despite all of this noise with India , we continue to deliver high single digit revenue growth with India clearly below trend and our long term aspirations .

Chris Cartwright: Right now, there's some things going on in their market that Chris just articulated. That revenue is down to 5%. If you look across the portfolio, now markets like Canada and the UK are leading the international growth, 11% in the third quarter. Despite all of this noise with India, we continue to deliver high single-digit revenue growth with India clearly below trend and our long-term aspirations.

Speaker #3: Yeah . In addition to that , I mean , as I , I outlined in my concluding remarks , there's a number of places in the portfolio where we think we will boost our growth rate based on all the product innovation and based on expanded go to market investments .

Chris Cartwright: Yeah. In addition to that, as I outlined in my concluding remarks, there's a number of places in the portfolio where we think we will boost our growth rate based on all the product innovation and based on expanded go-to-market investments. I would put marketing, fraud, communications, analytics across credit, marketing, and fraud. I think investigative solutions has got a lot of juice. Of course, India is upside. Of course, mortgage is upside. Let's not forget the consumer business. We've made massive investments to remediate the consumer business. They're starting to bear fruit. Our intermediate goal is to get that back to a mid-single-digit compounder. I feel like we're on the way there. If you like 11% in market-leading growth, understand that it's on a stable consumer lending foundation today.

Speaker #3: And I would put , you know , marketing fraud , communications analytics across credit marketing and fraud . I think investigative Solutions has got a lot of juice .

Speaker #3: Of course , India is upside . Of course , mortgage is upside . And let's not forget the consumer business . We've made massive investments to remediate the consumer business .

Speaker #3: They're starting to bear fruit . You know , our intermediate goal is to get that back to a mid-single digit compounder . I feel like we're on the way there .

Speaker #3: So I mean , if you like 11% in market leading growth , understand that it's on a stable consumer lending foundation today . And there's upside from that .

Chris Cartwright: There's upside from that given all of the product innovations in all of those different market areas that I just outlined. I think, again, it's important to emphasize that this is a global portfolio. At any point in time, we're going to have strengths and weaknesses across it. If you look at the consistency of our results over the past five years, the worst we've ever done is grow in line with market. For the most part, we outperform the growth rates in the market. I think this portfolio is much less risky and far more durable than is currently understood.

Speaker #3: Given all of the product innovations and all of those different market areas , you know , that I just outlined . And I think again , it's important to emphasize that this is a global portfolio at any point in time , we're going to have strengths and weaknesses across it .

Speaker #3: And if you look at the consistency of our results over the past five years , the worst we've ever done is grow in line with market .

Speaker #3: But for the most part , we outperform the growth rates in the market . So I think this portfolio is much less risky in far more durable than is is currently understood .

Speaker #2: All right . Thanks , Chris . Todd I think that's a good place to end . Thanks for all your questions today and have a great rest of your day .

Chris Cartwright: All right. Thanks, Chris, Todd. I think that's a good place to end. Thanks for all your questions today, and have a great rest of your day.

Gregory Bardi: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.