Q3 2025 Coeur Mining Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #3: Good day , and welcome to the Core mining . Third quarter 2020 financial results conference call . All participants will be in listen only mode should you need assistance , please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key , followed by zero .
Operator: Good day and welcome to the Coeur Mining, Inc. Third Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the Star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press Star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press Star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mitchell J. Krebs, President and CEO. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #4: Good morning , everyone , and thanks for joining our call today to discuss our third quarter results . Before I kick off , please note our cautionary language regarding forward looking statements and refer to our SEC filings that are on our website .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Good morning everyone and thanks for joining our call today to discuss our third quarter results. Before I kick off, please note our cautionary language regarding forward-looking statements and refer to our SEC filings that are on our website. The third quarter highlights on Slide 3 showcase our second consecutive quarter of record results driven by higher realized prices, strong production levels, and solid cost management. As a result, our cash balance is growing rapidly and is expected to exceed $500 million at year end, placing us solidly in a net cash position heading into 2026. Based on recent price levels, we now expect our full year EBITDA to exceed $1 billion and our full year free cash flow to top $550 million, both of which are higher than our prior estimates. Mick and Tom will provide some further operational and financial details in a few minutes.
Speaker #4: The third quarter highlights on slide three showcase our second consecutive quarter of record results, driven by higher realized prices, strong production levels, and solid cost management.
Speaker #4: As a result , our cash balance is growing rapidly and is expected to exceed $500 million at year end , placing a solidly in a net cash position heading into 2026 .
Speaker #4: Based on recent price levels , we now expect our full year EBITDA to exceed $1 billion and our full year free cash flow to top $550 million , both of which are higher than our prior estimates .
Speaker #4: Mick and Tom will provide some further operational and financial details in a few minutes , but a couple of other highlights I wanted to quickly mention our loss .
Mitchell J. Krebs: A couple of other highlights I wanted to quickly mention: our Las Chispas silver and gold operation in Sonora, Mexico had another consistent quarter of production during its second full quarter. Since the SilverCrest Metals Inc. transaction closed back in February, its free cash flow increased by 34% to $66 million in the third quarter. In addition to their solid operational and financial results, we issued an exploration update last month that highlighted several high-grade intercepts at Las Chispas. We couldn't be more pleased with the SilverCrest Metals Inc. transaction and the addition of the Las Chispas operation and its team.
Speaker #4: Silver and gold operation in Sonora , Mexico , had another consistent quarter of production during its second full quarter since the silvercrest transaction closed back in February .
Speaker #4: Its free cash flow increased by 34% to $66 million in the third quarter. In addition to their solid operational performance, we issued an exploration update last month that highlighted several high-grade intercepts at Las Chispas.
Speaker #4: We couldn't be more pleased with the Silvercrest transaction and the addition of the Las Chispas operation and its team . It's a great example of well-timed M&A that has allowed us to significantly up tier our asset portfolio by adding low cost silver production immediately bolster our balance sheet , which has put the company in a terrific position .
Mitchell J. Krebs: It's a great example of well-timed M&A that has allowed us to significantly up-tier our asset portfolio by adding low-cost silver production and immediately bolster our balance sheet, which has put the company in a terrific position as we look ahead to what should be an even stronger fourth quarter and a record-breaking year in 2026.
Speaker #4: As we look ahead to what should be an even stronger fourth quarter and a record breaking year in 2026 . On the share repurchase program , we managed to get nearly 10% of our initial $75 million program completed so far and will continue to evaluate our repurchase activities and overall capital allocation priorities with our board over the coming months .
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Mitchell J. Krebs: The share repurchase program. We managed to get nearly 10% of our initial $75 million program completed so far, and we'll continue to evaluate our repurchase activities and overall capital allocation priorities with our Board over the coming months. At Rochester, the team continued to make solid progress toward achieving steady state. We mentioned during our last call that we took extended downtime early in the third quarter to make some modifications to the crusher corridor, which have proven to be successful. Mick will talk more about the progress there in a few minutes. Finally, you'll see we fine-tuned our full-year production guidance ranges, and we also tweaked our cost guidance ranges. These narrower production guidance ranges resulted in a small increase to the midpoint.
Speaker #4: At Rochester , the team continued to make solid progress toward achieving steady state . We mentioned during our last call that we took extended downtime early in the third quarter to make some modifications to the crusher corridor , which have proven to successful .
Speaker #4: Mick will talk more about the progress there in a few minutes . Finally , you'll see we fine tuned our full year production guidance ranges , and we also tweaked our cost guidance ranges .
Speaker #4: These narrower production guidance ranges resulted in a small increase to the midpoint . Guidance . The main drivers to these adjustments are Las Chispas , Palmerio and morph being nicely ahead of plan , offset by some Rochester ounces being pushed into 2026 to reflect lower than planned .
Mitchell J. Krebs: The main drivers to these adjustments are Las Chispas, Palmarejo, and Wharf being nicely ahead of plan, offset by some Rochester ounces being pushed into 2026 to reflect lower than planned crushed tons so far this year. Before I turn it over to Mick, I just want to quickly thank the team. Our safe and the operational and financial results speak for themselves. It's great to see these themes all coming together at the same time. The impact of our recent investments in expansions and exploration, the SilverCrest acquisition, and now these higher prices to generate these strong results for our shareholders from our balanced platform of North American assets. Mick, over to you.
Speaker #4: Crush tons so far this year . Before I turn it over to Mick , I just want to quickly thank the team . Our safety .
Speaker #4: And the operational and financial results speak for themselves . It's great to see these themes all coming together at the same time . The impact of our recent investments in expansions and exploration , the Silvercrest acquisition and now these higher prices to generate these strong results for our shareholders from our balanced platform of North American assets .
Speaker #4: Mic over to you . Thanks , Mitch be
Michael Routledge: Thanks Mitch. The third quarter was another solid step forward for Coeur Mining, Inc., marked by strong execution and operating discipline throughout the business. Consolidated gold and silver production continued a 2024 trend of positive sequential quarterly increases, delivering over 111,000 ounces of gold and 4.8 million ounces of silver. Adjusted costs per ounce for gold and silver also continued that positive trend compared to Q3 2024 at $1,215 per ounce and $14.95 per ounce, respectively. Looking in more detail at each of the operations, rock solid consistent production and cost performance with a balanced portfolio was the key takeaway in the quarter. Beginning with Las Chispas, the operation continues to perform exceptionally well with silver production increasing to 1.6 million ounces and gold production to 17,000 ounces, generating $66 million of free cash flow.
Speaker #5: The third quarter was another solid step forward for core , marked by strong execution and operating discipline throughout the business . Consolidated gold and silver production continued at 2025 .
Speaker #5: Trend of positive sequential quarterly increases , delivering over 111,000oz of gold and 4.8 million ounces of silver . Adjusted cost per ounce for gold and silver .
Speaker #5: Also continued that positive trend compared to Q3 2024 at $1,215 per ounce and $14.95 per ounce , respectively . Looking in more detail at each of the operations , rock solid , consistent production and cost performance with a balanced portfolio with the key takeaway in the quarter beginning with Las Chispas , the operation continues to perform exceptionally well , with silver production increasing to 1.6 million ounces and gold production to 17,000oz , generating $66 million of free cash flow .
Speaker #5: As Mitch mentioned earlier , the mains outperformance to date and expectations for a strong finish to the year led us to increase the range of 2025 silver and gold production guidance .
Michael Routledge: As Mitch mentioned earlier, the mine's outperformance to date and expectations for a strong finish to the year led us to increase the range of 2024 silver and gold production guidance. I'm also pleased to report that the full integration of Las Chispas is now complete. Kudos to the entire team for a job well and safely done. Turning to Palmarejo, the mine delivered $47 million of free cash flow during the quarter with strong recoveries and mill throughput that reached their highest levels in six quarters. The pace of exploration activity has also increased in the East District and outside the Franco-Nevada Gold Stream area of interest, including drilling, mapping, and site work in the highly prospective Camachin and Guasaparas trends, which we believe will be key drivers in Palmarejo's next leg of growth.
Speaker #5: I'm also pleased to report that the full integration of Las Chispas is now complete . Kudos to the entire team for a job well and safely done .
Speaker #5: Turning to Palmarejo , the mine delivered $47 million of free cash flow during the quarter with strong recoveries and mill throughput that reached their highest levels in six quarters .
Speaker #5: The pace of exploration activity has also increased in the East District , outside the Franco-nevada Gold Stream area of interest . Including drilling , mapping and site work in the highly prospective Kamiakin and guazapa trends which we believe will be key drivers in pulmonary hose .
Speaker #5: Next leg of growth Palmeiro's strong performance year to date and expectations for a good finish to the year supported an uptick in their full year 2025 production guidance ranges and driven by continued strong cost management , a reduction in their full year 2025 cast guidance ranges .
Michael Routledge: Palmarejo's strong performance year to date and expectations for a good finish to the year supported an uptick in their full year 2024 production guidance ranges and, driven by continued strong cost management, a reduction in their full year 2024 CAS guidance ranges. Turning to Rochester, the priority in the third quarter remained on building consistency and momentum through the three-stage crushing line, which continues to drive steady sequential growth in production at a lower overall cost profile. Gold and silver production increased 3% and 13%, respectively, compared to the second quarter, driving a second successive quarter of free cash flow at $30 million.
Speaker #5: Turning to Rochester , the priority in the third quarter remained on building consistency and momentum through the three stage crushing lane , which continues to drive steady sequential growth in production at a lower overall cost profile .
Speaker #5: Gold and silver production increased 3% and 13% , respectively , compared to the second quarter , driving a second successive quarter of free cash flow at $30 million .
Speaker #5: I'm pleased to report that the average particle size continues to trend downward for material passing through all three stages of crushing from a peak of around 0.92in in the second quarter to slightly better than budget levels of 0.84in in the third quarter .
Michael Routledge: I'm pleased to report that the average particle size continues to trend downward for material passing through all three stages of crushing, from a P80 of around 0.92 inches in the second quarter to slightly better than budget levels of 0.84 inches in the third quarter, and the related recoveries continue to track our PSD models just as we expected. As mentioned last quarter, the team took an extended down period in July to successfully implement several modifications after startup to further enhance the tremendous processing power and efficiency of the crushing train. We also managed through some premature belt wear challenges in the secondary reclaim feeder during the quarter, with a few more minor modifications to address this in the fourth quarter. This downtime resulted in a slight decrease in tonnes crushed compared to the prior quarter.
Speaker #5: And the related recoveries continue to track . Our PSD models . Just as we expected . As mentioned last quarter , the team took an extended down period in July to successfully implement several modifications after start to further enhance the tremendous processing power and efficiency of the crushing train , we also managed , through some premature Beltway challenges in the secondary reclaim feeder .
Speaker #5: During the quarter , with a few more minor modifications to address this . In the fourth quarter . This downtime resulted in a slight decrease in tonnes crushed compared to the prior quarter .
Speaker #5: However , total tonnes placed on stage six in the third quarter increased over 9% to 8.3 million tonnes by utilizing our available fleet and supplementing crushed tonnes with direct to pad material .
Michael Routledge: However, total tonnes placed on stage six in the third quarter increased over 9% to 8.3 million tonnes by utilizing our available fleet and supplementing crushed tonnes with direct to pad material. Revised 2025 production and cost guidance ranges at Rochester reflect the cumulative effects of this year to date downtime and the expected timing of ounces coming from stage six moving to Kensington. The positive impact of the recently completed multi-year underground development program continues to shine through in the form of a stronger, more consistent production profile. Gold production increased for the third consecutive quarter, exceeding 27,000 ounces. CAS per ounce at Kensington has shown similar sequential improvement in 2025, reaching $1,659 in the quarter. These positive trends contributed to free cash flow of $31 million, Kensington's highest quarterly cash flow in over six years.
Speaker #5: Revised 2025 production and cost guidance ranges at Rochester reflect the cumulative effects of year to date downtime and the expected timing of ounces coming from stage six .
Speaker #5: Moving to Kensington . The positive impact of the recently completed multi-year underground development program continues to shine through in the form of a stronger , more consistent production profile .
Speaker #5: Gold production increased for the third consecutive quarter , exceeding 27,000oz . Cost per ounce at Kensington has shown similar sequential improvement in 2025 , reaching $1,659 in the quarter .
Speaker #5: These positive trends contributed to free cash flow of $31 million , Kensington's highest quarterly cash flow in over six years . In light of strong results to date , coupled with greater flexibility and productivity , taking root throughout the mine , Kensington's 2025 production guidance has increased and its 2025 cost per ounce range has been downward .
Michael Routledge: In light of strong results to date, coupled with greater flexibility and productivity taking root throughout the mine, Kensington's 2025 production guidance has increased and its 2025 CAS per ounce range has been narrowed downward. Finishing up at Wharf, the mine achieved its third consecutive quarter of increased production and lower costs applicable to sales. Quarterly gold production increased by 16% to 28,000 ounces, leading to free cash flow of an impressive $54 million. This great year to date performance led us to increase full year gold production guidance by 3,000 ounces, at the same time moving CAS guidance down by $125 per gold ounce. As Mitch mentioned, the power of Coeur's balanced North American portfolio is fully enjoying this moment of record-setting metals prices. With that, I'll pass the call over to Tom.
Speaker #5: Finishing up at Wharf , the main achieved its third consecutive quarter of increased production and lower costs applicable to sales . Quarterly gold production increased by 16% to 28,000oz , leading to free cash flow of an impressive $54 million .
Speaker #5: This great year to date performance led us to increase full year gold production guidance by 3000oz . At the same time , moving cost guidance down by $125 per gold ounce .
Speaker #5: As Mitch mentioned , the power of Kerr's balanced North American portfolio is fully enjoying this moment of record setting metals prices . With that , I'll pass the call over to Tom .
Speaker #4: Thanks , Mick . As highlighted on slide eight , our strong Q3 financial results demonstrate the power of our five asset portfolio , which is delivering as expected .
Thomas S. Whelan: Thanks Mick. As highlighted on Slide 8, our strong Q3 financial results demonstrate the power of our five asset portfolio which is delivering as expected. It was pretty exciting to see the surge in quarterly free cash flow and EBITDA margin during the quarter. Perhaps more exciting is the resulting dramatic improvement of the company's financial position in such a short period of time. Metal sales climbed 15% to $555 million during the quarter, driven primarily by a healthy increase in the number of ounces sold and further accentuated by the 15% higher silver price quarter over quarter. This strong top line revenue growth, combined with overall solid cost control, led to several new quarterly financial records for net income, adjusted EBITDA, free cash flow, and adjusted EBITDA margin.
Speaker #4: It was pretty exciting to see the surge in quarterly free cash flow and EBITDA margin during the quarter . Perhaps more exciting is the resulting dramatic improvement of the company's financial position in such a short period of time .
Speaker #4: Metal sales climbed 15% to $555 million during the quarter , driven primarily by a healthy increase in the number of ounces sold and further accentuated by the 15% higher silver price quarter over quarter .
Speaker #4: This strong top line revenue growth , combined with overall solid cost control , led to several new quarterly financial records for net income adjusted EBITDA , free cash flow , and adjusted EBITDA margin .
Speaker #4: One neat metric to highlight is that cause free cash flow , party continued at a pace of roughly $2 million per day during Q3 , and we expect this rate to increase with the expected higher Q4 realized prices .
Thomas S. Whelan: One neat metric to highlight is that Coeur's free cash flow party continued at a pace of roughly $2 million per day during Q3, and we expect this rate to increase with the expected higher Q4 realized prices. Turning to the balance sheet on Slide 11, our cash balance grew to $266 million. We took advantage of our improving financial position to early repay $10 million of higher cost capital leases as we aim to drive down our interest expense even further. We have now repaid over $228 million in debt during 2025, driving our net debt below $100 million. We closed the quarter with a net debt ratio of 0.1 times. We are prepared to declare victory on achieving our long term goal of net debt to EBITDA of nil during Q4 2025, which is nicely ahead of schedule.
Speaker #4: Turning to the balance sheet on slide 11 , our cash balance grew to $266 million . We took advantage of our improving financial position to early repay $10 million of higher cost capital leases , as we aim to drive down our interest expense even further .
Speaker #4: We have now repaid over $228 million in debt during 2025 . Driving our net debt below $100 million . We closed the quarter with a net debt ratio of 0.1 times .
Speaker #4: We are prepared to declare victory on achieving our term goal of net debt to EBITDA of nil during Q4 2025, which is nicely ahead of schedule.
Speaker #4: Included in our Q3 2025 earnings was a significant milestone around our $630 million of US net operating losses as the students of accounting on this call will appreciate , we recorded these US net operating losses on the balance sheet during the third quarter .
Thomas S. Whelan: Included in our Q3 2025 earnings was a significant milestone around our $630 million of U.S. net operating losses. As the students of accounting on this call will appreciate, we recorded these U.S. net operating losses on the balance sheet during the third quarter. This accounting requirement resulted in a one time $162 million non cash tax benefit for accounting purposes during the quarter, which is a reflection of the strong performance of the U.S. operations over the past three years. On a cumulative basis, we have enhanced our guidance and disclosure relating to tax matters to provide additional color on the go forward effective tax rate and on quarterly taxes paid. Speaking of guidance, we have fine tuned our 2025 production and cost guidance as is the normal cadence after the end.
Speaker #4: This accounting requirement resulted in a one-time, $162 million non-cash tax benefit for accounting purposes during the quarter, which is a reflection of the strong performance of the U.S. operations over the past three years.
Speaker #4: On a cumulative basis , we have enhanced our guidance and disclosure relating to tax matters to provide additional color on the go forward .
Speaker #4: Effective tax rate and on quarterly taxes paid . Speaking of guidance , we have fine tuned our 2025 production and cost guidance as is the normal cadence after the end of the third quarter .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Of the third quarter.
Speaker #4: As Mitch referenced , the overall production changes are truly minor tweaks and speak to our overall predictability over the past three years . Despite a stronger peso than we had budgeted and higher royalty obligations due to stronger gold and silver prices .
Thomas S. Whelan: As Mitch referenced, the overall production changes are truly minor tweaks and speak to our overall predictability over the past three years. Despite a stronger peso than we had budgeted and higher royalty obligations due to stronger gold and silver price, we are particularly excited to lower our cost guidance at three of our five mines, which reflects the efforts of our business improvement culture and signs that our 2025 inflation estimates were conservative. With that, I'll now pass the call back to Mitch.
Speaker #4: We are particularly excited to lower our cost guidance at three of our five mines, which reflects the efforts of our business improvement culture and signs that our 2025 inflation estimates were conservative.
Speaker #4: With that , I'll now pass the call back to Mitch . Thanks , Tom . Before moving to the Q&A , I want to quickly highlight slide 13 that summarizes our top priorities for the remainder of the year .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Thanks, Tom. Before moving to the Q&A, I want to quickly highlight slide 13 that summarizes our top priorities for the remainder of the year. We've made tremendous progress this year by delivering on our strategy and pursuing opportunities to further improve the quality of the business. We expect this discipline and focus to result in a strong finish to the year and to position us exceptionally well for a record year in 2026. With that, let's go ahead and open it up for questions.
Speaker #4: We've made tremendous progress this year by delivering on our strategy and pursuing opportunities to further improve the quality of the business . We expect this discipline and focus to result in a strong finish to the year , and to position us exceptionally well for a record year in 2026 .
Speaker #4: With that , let's go ahead and open it up for questions .
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Speaker #3: At this time we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster . Our first question comes from Mike Superko with RBC Capital Markets . Please go ahead .
Speaker #6: Thanks . Operator . And good morning , and thanks for taking my question . Team . Maybe starting possibly with Martin , maybe starting with Mick on on Rochester or I assume it's Mick .
[Analyst]: Thanks, operator, and good morning, and thanks for taking my question, team. Maybe starting possibly with Michael, maybe starting with Mick on Rochester, or I assume it's Mick. Anyways, none of the guidance changed, and what you're seeing in the second half at the crusher. Can you talk a bit more about what's needed to get the operation up to full capacity or steady state, let's say, into 2026 from a throughput perspective?
Speaker #6: Anyways , none of the guidance change and what you're seeing in the second half of the Crusher . Can you talk a bit more about what's needed to get the operation up to full capacity or steady state ?
Speaker #6: Let's say , into 2026 from a from a throughput throughput perspective .
Speaker #4: Mick , you want to go ahead and take that .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Mitchell, you want to go ahead and take that?
Speaker #5: Yeah . Mike , thanks for the question . Absolutely . You know , we telegraphed a little bit that we're going to do those extended shutdowns during July .
Michael Routledge: Yeah, Mike, thanks for the question. Absolutely. You know, we telegraphed a little bit that we're going to do those extended shutdowns during July. We did that, and we've got three really strong projects done. One on the primary, which was really to help us get more efficiently in and out of the primary, to maintain that asset around a rail system underneath the primary. That allows us to then run more consistently at the primary level. On the secondary, it was about some modifications that we did to split the two secondary systems up so that we can run one of the systems while maintaining the other one, which also impacts productivity improvements.
Speaker #5: We did that . And we've got three really strong projects done . One on the the the primary which was really to help us get more efficiently in and out of the primary to maintain that asset around a rail system underneath the the primary .
Speaker #5: So that allows us to then run more consistently at the primary level on the secondary . It was about some modifications that we did to split the two secondary systems up so that we can run one of the systems while maintaining the other one , which also impacts productivity improvements .
Speaker #5: And then the third key project that we did during the quarter was an Autosampler downstream around the tertiary system that allowed us to both drive uptime to to get more tons through the pipe and to get better visibility of the size fraction online during dynamic operations .
Michael Routledge: The third key project that we did during the quarter was an auto assembler downstream around the tertiary system that allowed us to both drive uptime to get more tonnes through the pipe and to get better visibility of the size fraction online during dynamic operations. All three of those projects have really driven the opportunity for more uptime for size control and productivity. At Rochester, that was done in the third quarter, and we've seen some good signs that that's getting some traction, and we're looking forward to better results going forward.
Speaker #5: So all three of those projects have really driven the opportunity for more uptime , for size control and productivity at Rochester , that was done in the in the third quarter , and we've seen some good signs that that's that's getting some traction .
Speaker #5: And we're looking forward to better results going forward .
Speaker #4: And just to piggyback on on what Mick , just highlighted to get to the point of what's needed to get up to to capacity out there , I'd say the , you know , the unplanned downtime late in the third quarter regarding that conveyor belt under the secondary crushed or stockpile that that cropped up , which which caused us to to lose a little bit of momentum there on the back of completing those projects that Mick just highlighted , that'll get addressed here in in November .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Mike, to piggyback on what Mick just highlighted, to get to the point of what's needed to get up to capacity out there, I'd say that the unplanned downtime late in the third quarter regarding that conveyor belt under the secondary crushed ore stockpile.
Thomas S. Whelan: That.
Mitchell J. Krebs: Cropped up, which caused us to lose a little bit of momentum there on the back of completing those projects that Mick just highlighted. That will get addressed here in November. Those are always going to be something, I'm sure, that pops up from time to time, but that's probably the one thing that we need to get behind us, and then we'll hopefully have some clear runway on the backside of that. Is that fair to say, Mick?
Speaker #4: And that should you know , there's always going to be something I'm sure that pops up from time to time . But that's probably the the one thing that we need to get behind us .
Speaker #4: And then , you know , we'll hopefully have some some clear runway on the backside of that . Is that fair to say , Mick ?
Speaker #5: It's absolutely fair to say , you know , the , the trend is positive . We're seeing some some better numbers as we go through this month and year to date .
Michael Routledge: It's absolutely fair to say. The trend is positive, seeing some better numbers as we go through this month and year to date. Now that we've got those projects behind us, we'll just continue to tweak. I'm really actually quite happy where we're at. It's not unusual that we do some of these modifications after startup. In relative terms, compared to the industry average, it's been quite a lean set of modifications, to be fair. So far so good.
Speaker #5: Now that we've got those projects behind us . And we'll just continue to tweak . I'm really actually quite happy where we're at .
Speaker #5: It's not unusual that some of these modifications after startup, and in relative terms, compared to, you know, the industry average.
Speaker #5: It's been quite a quite a lean set of modifications , to be fair . So so far so good .
Speaker #4: Does that help , Mike .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Does that help, Mike?
Speaker #7: Yeah ,
Michael Routledge: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker #6: Yeah , yeah . And I guess just to follow up on that , that that was going to be my next question . I mean , when you look at the issues that you have been addressing , either , you know , sort of planned or unplanned , would you say this is more normal course adjustment during a ramp up of an operation ?
[Analyst]: I guess just to follow up on that, that was going to be my next question. I mean, when you look at the issues that you have been addressing, either planned or unplanned, would you say this is more normal course adjustment during a ramp up of an operation this size, or are you seeing more with respect to either the conveyors or the wear or the material you're running that maybe needs more of a step back and some readjustment, or is it both?
Speaker #6: This size , or are you seeing more with respect to either the conveyors or the where or the material you're running that , that maybe needs more of a step back and some readjustment ?
Speaker #6: Or is it both ?
Speaker #4: I'd say it's much more of the former . Mike things that when you you run a large crusher train like this for a little while , something pops up , you fix it and then you move on .
Mitchell J. Krebs: I'd say it's much more the former. Mike, things that when you run a large crusher train like this for a little while, something pops up, you fix it, and then you move on. Mick, fair to say.
Speaker #4: Make fair to say .
Speaker #5: I absolutely fair to say I'm it's not a typical conveyors , belts , adjustments to chutes a little bit on strike at bars around the secondary that will make adjustments on that'll .
Michael Routledge: Absolutely fair to say. It's not atypical conveyors, belts, adjustments to chutes, a little bit on striker bars around the secondary that we'll make adjustments on that will give a bit more longevity on the belts, and we should see the benefits of that going forward.
Speaker #5: That'll give you a bit more longevity on the belts . And we should see the benefits of that going forward .
Speaker #6: So then if I can if I can ask and maybe without getting into to to guidance specifics , the original 2025 guidance had called for about 20,000oz of gold and 2,000,000oz of silver and Q3 and Q4 .
[Analyst]: If I can ask, and maybe without getting into guidance specifics, the original 2025 guidance had called for about 20,000 ounces of gold and 2 million ounces of silver in Q3 and Q4. Is that still a quarterly run rate that you feel confident can be reached next year?
Speaker #6: Is that still a quarterly run rate that you feel confident can be reached next year ?
Speaker #4: Yeah , I'd say the step up from 25 to 26 will be pretty material out there . Getting closer to that on a on a full year basis , that that annual kind of plus 30 million ton crushing rate , which is really where we need to be to achieve that kind of annual 7 to 8,000,000oz of silver , 70,000oz of gold on an annual on an annual basis .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Yeah, I'd say the step up from 2025 to 2026 will be pretty material out there. Getting closer to that on a full year basis, that annual kind of plus 30 million ton crushing rate, which is really where we need to be to achieve that kind of annual 7 to 8 million ounces of silver, 70,000 ounces of gold on an annual basis. We expect to see some momentum in the fourth quarter heading in that direction and then sustain that more throughout 2026, and that's going to give us a nice incremental step up year over year out there.
Speaker #4: So , you know , we're we expect to see some momentum in the fourth quarter heading in that direction . And then you know , sustain that more throughout 2026 .
Speaker #4: And that's going to give us a nice , nice incremental step up year over year out there okay .
Speaker #6: Great . Maybe one more for me and then I'll turn it over . Just yeah sure . Nice segue to to M&A . Obviously .
[Analyst]: Okay, great. Maybe one more for me and then I'll turn it over. Just earned growth. Nice segue to M&A. Obviously Las Chispas has worked out pretty nicely for you over the last 12 months or so. You seem to be anyways well into cash harvest at this point. How are you thinking about other opportunities either producing or in development out there in the market? Maybe if you can address that in the context of how you're thinking about Silvertip in the longer term.
Speaker #6: Let's has worked out pretty nicely for you over the last 12 months or so . You're you seem to be anyways . Well into Cash harvest at this point .
Speaker #6: How are you thinking about other opportunities ? Either producing or in development out there in the market ? And maybe if you can address that in the context of how you're thinking about Silver in the longer term .
Speaker #4: Yeah , yeah , sure . Thanks for the question . Look , we came into this year very internally focused on some clear priorities around closing and integrating Silvercrest , ramping up Rochester to steady state , paying down debt quickly , you know , and now here we are almost in November .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Yeah, yeah, sure. Thanks for the question. Look, we came into this year very internally focused on some clear priorities around closing and integrating SilverCrest, ramping up Rochester to steady state, paying down debt quickly, you know, and now here we are almost in November and you can say that we've either completed or are well on our way to checking the box on all of those. We're always looking right at things that we could do to potentially, you know, make this a better business up to the quality of the company and the operations that we have.
Speaker #4: And you can say that we've either completed or are well on our way to checking the box on on all of those . And we're always looking at things that we could do to potentially , you know , make this a better business up here .
Speaker #4: The quality of the company and the operations that we have . Not that much of a focus on going back into the development stage game , you know , after having just come out of a period of pretty heavy investment at Rochester , Kensington and Exploration , you know , being in this free cash flow positive phase is somewhere where we'd like to remain for , for for a while .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Not that much of a focus on going back into the development stage game, you know, after having just come out of a period of pretty heavy investment at Rochester, Kensington, and exploration, you know, being in this free cash flow positive phase is somewhere where we'd like to remain for a while. Any opportunities that we look at though, you know, have to fit a fairly rigid set of criteria around being gold and silver and improve the quality of the business sticking in our jurisdictions where we are. We're always looking at those things. There's not a lot of those, frankly, that fit all those criteria. We're always actively monitoring and evaluating those kinds of opportunities. Just turning to Silvertip for a second, that's very much a part of how we think about growth in the future.
Speaker #4: And , you know , so any opportunities that we look at though , you know , have to fit a fairly rigid set of criteria around being gold and silver and improve the quality of the business sticking in our jurisdictions where we are .
Mitchell J. Krebs: Not necessarily in the near term, but looking out a bit longer term, that's a significant leg up in growth, in particular on the silver side. You know, that could bring in a pretty chunky amount of annual silver production, assuming Silvertip becomes a mine. I think I said last quarter we kicked off an initial assessment here to take a look at that project. We'll need to complete that next year, consider whether we move on to the PFS phase, and then, you know, if that clears, if the project clears that hurdle, then onto the feasibility study stage, obviously permitting and then a lot of drilling. All of those things take time. We don't want to do anything to cut any corners or any shortcuts. We want to make sure we get it right.
Not that much of a focus on going back into the development stage game, you know, after having just come out of a period of pretty heavy investment at Rochester, at Kensington and exploration, you know, being in this free cash flow. Um, positive. Um, phase is somewhere where we'd like to remain for for, uh, for a while. Um, and you know. So any opportunities that we look at, though, you know, have to fit a, a fairly rigid set of criteria around, you know, being gold and silver and and improved the quality of the business sticking in our jurisdictions, where we are. So we're always looking at those things. There's not a lot of those frankly, that that fit all those criteria. So we're we're always actively monitoring. And and and um, evaluating those, those kinds of opportunities just turning the silver tip for a second. That's very much a part of of um how we think about growth in the future. Um not necessarily in the near term but looking out a bit longer term, that's a
A significant leg up in, in growth, in particular on the silver side. You know, that could bring in a, a pretty chunky, uh, amount of annual silver production. Uh, assuming Silver Tip uh, uh,
Mitchell J. Krebs: Of course, Canada is providing a lot of support for critical minerals projects like Silvertip. We're getting our arms around that and seeing how that might affect the overall timeline.
[Company Representative]: You know, it.
Mitchell J. Krebs: It's out there a few years, but it's something that we're continuing to advance and I think it's probably going to look pretty attractive, especially in the current metals price environment.
Becomes a mine. Um, I think I said last quarter, you know, we we kicked off an initial assessment here, uh, to take a look at that project. We'll need to complete that next year. Consider, whether we move on to the the PFS phase and then, you know, if that clears, if the project clears that hurdle and onto the feasibility study stage, obviously permitting and then a lot of drilling. So all of those things take time, we don't want to do anything um to cut any corners or any shortcuts. Uh we want to make sure we get it right? Of course, Canada's providing a lot of a lot of support for critical minerals projects like uh, like Silver Tip. So, we're uh, getting our arms around that and and seeing how that might affect the overall timeline, but, you know it. So it's out there a few years, but it's something that we're continuing to advance. And, um, you know, I think it's it's probably going to look pretty pretty attractive, especially at the, you know, in the current Metals price environment.
[Analyst]: Okay, great. Thank you very much. Appreciate you taking my questions.
Mitchell J. Krebs: No, thanks, Mike. Appreciate it.
Okay, great. Thank you very much. Uh, appreciate you taking my questions.
Operator: Our next question comes from Joseph Rager with Froth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.
No, thanks Mike. Appreciate it.
Mitchell J. Krebs: Hey, Mitch and team, thanks for taking the questions. Hi, Joe. This first thing I know you.
Our next question comes from Joseph rager with broth Capital Partners, please go ahead.
Hey, Mitch and team. Thanks for taking the questions.
Yeah. Hi Joe.
so, um,
Michael Routledge: Guys gave a little bit of guidance.
Mitchell J. Krebs: On how the tax rate is going.
[Company Representative]: To look this year.
Mitchell J. Krebs: What should we be thinking about?
[Analyst]: You know, as far as next year.
[Company Representative]: Now that you know this is, you have this deferred tax asset. Tom?
This first thing, um, I know you guys gave a little bit of guidance on how the tax rates are going to look this year, but what should we be thinking about, you know, as far as next year and beyond?
You know, this is you have this deferred tax assets.
Thomas S. Whelan: Sure, thanks. We're taking bets on whether we get a tax question. Thank you. Again, it was critical to highlight the setting up of the tax asset. For years we've really had basically a zero effective tax rate on our U.S. earnings, and that will change starting next year. The federal rate's 21%. The states are, you might want to add in like 3% on average, and that should be the go forward kind of rate. We'll tweak that. Of course, we have to wait and see how fast we chew through all of the net operating losses, and trying to predict how fast that's going to happen with these increasing commodity prices has been, it's a high class problem to have. We should even be in a situation where there's a potential to actually pay U.S.
Tom sure.
Thanks. We were, we were
make taking bets on whether we get a tax question, so thank you. Um,
So again uh it was it was critical to highlight uh you know the the setting up of the of the tax asset.
Thomas S. Whelan: income tax, which was in 2026 federal income tax, which was a pipe dream many, many years ago. I don't know if that gave you enough color, Joe, but that's how you should be thinking about it.
And so, for years, we've really had basically a zero effective tax rate on our us, uh, earnings. And so that will change starting next year, the federal rates 21%. The states are you might want to add in like, 3% on average and so that, that should be the go forward, kind of rate. We'll, we'll tweak that. Of course, we have to wait and see how fast we choose through all of the net operating losses and, you know, trying to predict how fast that's going to happen with these increasing uh, commodity prices has been, uh, it's a high class problem to have but uh, you know, uh, we should even be in a situation where we, we'll there's a a potential actually pay us income tax which was in 2026 federal income tax, which was a pipe dream many, many years ago. So,
[Company Representative]: That's helpful. Then.
So I don't know if that gave you enough color Joe, but that's, that's how you should be thinking about it.
[Analyst]: Was a good quarter overall.
Mitchell J. Krebs: I did note Palmarejo and Las Chispas saw a little bit of a drop in grade. Was there anything to that or is it just sequencing?
[Company Representative]: Is it at Las Chispas, was it.
[Analyst]: Related to stockpiles that were processed.
No, that that's helpful. Um and then um was a good quarter overall uh, but I did note Paul Moro and um, clothes cheapest saw a little bit of a drop in grade. Was there anything to that? Or is it just sequencing? Is it at less cheapest? Was it?
Mitchell J. Krebs: Any color you guys can give there?
[Company Representative]: What drove that?
Mitchell J. Krebs: Yeah, I think you actually just almost answered the question with your answer there, with your suggestions at least. Mick, do you want to give a little more color?
Related to stock files that were processed, like any color you guys can give there for what drove that.
Yeah, I think you actually just almost answered the question.
Michael Routledge: Yeah, I mean in underground thin vein mines, of course we're already always characterizing a little bit more ore as we go through the production phase. When we do that, we then look to see whether that ore is economic and then you can either stockpile that ore or you can run it through the plant. With Palmarejo, of course we've got upside in one mill and capacity there. We chose to run some of that. We ran about, I think, 6% more tonnes through the plant in the quarter and that helped to make those adjustments to the gains. That's just past for sure. We ran a lot of that historic stockpile down and that's a great thing. We have now got a very clear view of the stockpile that we have sitting there at Las Chispas.
Operator: Okay.
Who, of course, we've got upside in 1 mil and capacity there. So, you know, we chose to run some of that we'll run about, I think 6% more tons through the pipe in the quarter and that helped were to make those adjustments to the gates, but that's just, that's for sure. We, we ran a lot of that historic stock pail down, um, and uh, and that's a great thing. So that we've now got a very clear view of the stock pile that we have sitting there at last cheese pass.
[Analyst]: All right, congrats on good quarter.
Mitchell J. Krebs: I'll turn it over. Okay, thanks a lot, Joe.
Okay, all right. Well um congrats on good quarter and I'll turn it over.
Operator: Our next question comes from Kevin O'Halloran with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Okay, thanks a lot.
Our next question comes from Kevin. Oh, Aaron with BMO Capital markets, please, go ahead.
[Company Representative]: Hey, Mitch and team, thanks for taking my question.
Mitchell J. Krebs: Hi. Yeah, sure.
[Company Representative]: Great to see the cost guidance coming down at most of the operations, and it looks like that's mostly on the back of higher guided production. Can you guys comment on what you're seeing from a unit cost perspective and any main cost pressures that you might be seeing across the portfolio?
Hey, Mitch and team. Thanks for taking my questions. Hi.
Yeah, sure. So, uh, yeah, great, uh, great to see the cost guidance coming down at, uh, at most of the operations. It looks like that's mostly on the back of a higher guided production, but can you guys comment on what you're seeing from a unit cost perspective? And any main cost pressures that you might be seeing across the portfolio.
Mitchell J. Krebs: Thanks for the question. I think we have that inflation slide in the deck that we typically include that shows, from our perspective, we're still squarely in that sweet spot of strong rising prices and flat input costs into the business. I think slide nine in the deck combined, those are close to, I think, around 60% of our total OpEx. You can see that whether you look over the last 12 months or the last 24 months, it's a pretty attractive cost environment that we're seeing. Not a lot of pressure there. No tariff pressure at all, at least yet. I don't know. Mick, Tom, is there anything on the unit cost side that.
You know, we have thanks for the question. We I think we have that inflation slide in the deck that we typically include that. That shows, you know, we we we from our our perspective. We're, you know, still squarely in that sweet spot of
You know strong Rising prices and and flat input costs uh into the business. I think it's slide 9 in the deck. The combined, those are close to anything around 60% of our total total Opex and you can see that
you know, whether you look over the last 12 months or the last 24 months,
Michael Routledge: Yeah, I mean, look, we saw inflation three years ago or two years ago, and we put really robust cost controls in place at all of the sites, and they're holding true. We're still focused on costs even in this nice price environment, and being disciplined in that space helps drive the margin. Yeah, we're enjoying that.
Thomas S. Whelan: Kevin, one thing I'd like to pile on is just, you know, from a royalty perspective, I mean that's something that can impact costs. Despite paying some higher royalties, even out at Rochester, we've had a royalty that will start paying based on these prices. That drove a lot of the Rochester increase. I think it's fantastic that we're able to lower the cost at the other three mines despite the higher royalty pressure. Don't forget the peso as well. The peso has been very strong and Mick and Sandra and the team down in Mexico have done a great job on costs. Really happy.
Uh, you know, it's it's a pretty attractive um, cost environment uh that we're seeing. So not a lot, a lot of pressure. There are no, no tariff, you know, pressure at all. Um, at least at least yet. Um, but I don't know. Mick Tom is there anything on the unit cost side that? Yeah, I mean look, we saw inflation 3 years ago or 2 years ago, and we put really robust cost controls in place and all of the sights and they they're holding through, we're still we're still focused on costs even in this nice price environment and uh being disciplined in that space. Helps we drive the margin. So um, yeah, what we're enjoying that.
Kevin, if you had 1 thing, I had to pile on is just, you know, from a royalty perspective. I mean that's something that that can impact costs. And so, despite having some higher royalties even out at Rochester, we've had a a royalty that will start paying based on these these prices. And so, you know, that drove a lot of the Rochester increase, but I think it's fantastic that we're able to lower the cost at the other 3 Minds, uh, despite, um, you know, the higher higher, royalty, pressure, and don't forget the peso as well, right? The peso,
So it's been very strong and uh making making Sandra and the team down in Mexico, have done a great job uh on costs. So really happy
[Company Representative]: Great. Yeah, thanks, that's helpful. Just moving on. Kind of already touched on this at Palmarejo, but with higher metals prices, I think pretty much everyone in the industry is facing the decisions of whether to send lower grade ore to the mill. Maybe it was previously considered waste, and now with metals prices, it can go to the mill. You mentioned you're seeing a bit of that at Palmarejo. Are you seeing or facing any of those sorts of decisions at any of the other operations? Do you expect going forward, or do you expect to be sticking largely to the mine plans?
Mitchell J. Krebs: Yeah, Mick, you want to.
Great. Yeah, thanks that's uh, that's helpful. Um, just moving on it kind of already touched on this at palmeiro but um, with with higher Metals prices, I think you know, pretty much everyone in the industry is facing the decisions of whether to send lower grade or to the to the mill. Maybe it was previously considered waste. And and now with Metals prices at, uh, it can go to the mill. Um, you mentioned, you're seeing a bit of that of palmeiro. Are you seeing or facing any of those sorts of decisions at, uh, at any of the other operations and do you expect? Um, I agree going forward, or, or do you expect to be sticking largely to the Mind plans?
Michael Routledge: Yeah, I mean, look, on an annual basis we'll try our best to stick to the main plans, but always finding that marginal ore and then we make a decision about that to stockpile that or do we run it. The great thing is though, we don't just look at that grade, we look at the recovery. If you look at Palmarejo, for instance, some of that lower grade material actually recovered better, and so the balance of play on that was good. That's why you see that positive, that positive outcome at Palmarejo, where just the grade by itself has to be coupled with the tonnes and the recovery performance.
Yeah, Mick you want to. Yeah, I mean, look in on an annual basis. We'll try our best to stick to the main plans. We're always finding that marginal or and then we make a decision about that to stop by all that, or do we run it? And the great thing is though, we don't just look at that grid. We look at the recovery. So if you look at Palm REO, for instance, some of that lower grade material, actually, you recovered better. And so the balance of play on that was good. And that's why you see that positive that positive outcome at palmeiro. So just the, the grade by itself has to be coupled with the tons and the recovery performance.
[Company Representative]: Great. Appreciate that, guys. That's all for me. I'll leave it there, thanks.
Mitchell J. Krebs: Okay, thanks Kevin.
Great. Appreciate that, guys. That's all for me. I'll I'll leave it there. Thanks.
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Okay. Thanks. Kevin
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Mitchell J. Krebs: Okay, we appreciate everybody's time today. Thanks for joining our call. We wish you all a happy Halloween, safe, healthy holiday season ahead. We'll talk to you when we report fourth quarter and year end results early next year. Thanks. Have a good day.
Okay, well, hey, we appreciate everybody's time today. Thanks for joining our call. We wish you all a
Happy Halloween, uh safe healthy holiday season ahead. And
Quarter year, end results early next year.
Thanks. Have a good day.
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