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Q4 2025 BCE Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the BCE Q4 2025 results and 2026 guidance call. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Chris Summers.
Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the BCE Q4 2025 Results and 2026 Guidance Call. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Chris Summers. Please go ahead, Mr. Summers.
Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the BCE Q4 2025 Results and 2026 Guidance Call. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Chris Summers. Please go ahead, Mr. Summers.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead, Mr.
Speaker #1: Summers. Thank you,
Chris Summers: Thank you, Matthew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. My name is Chris Summers, Head of Investor Relations, and with me here today are Mirko Bibic, BCE's President and CEO, and Curtis Millen, our CFO. You can find all our Q4 disclosure documents, including our safe harbor notice concerning forward-looking statements, on the investor relations page of the BCE.ca website. Before we begin, I'd like to draw your attention to our safe harbor statement on slide two of the presentation, reminding you that today, remarks made during the call will include forward-looking information and therefore are subject to risks and uncertainties. Results could differ materially. We disclaim any obligation to update forward-looking statements except as required by law. Please refer to our publicly filed documents for more details on assumptions and risks. With that out of the way, I'll turn the call over to Mirko.
Chris Summers: Thank you, Matthew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. My name is Chris Summers, Head of Investor Relations, and with me here today are Mirko Bibic, BCE's President and CEO, and Curtis Millen, our CFO. You can find all our Q4 disclosure documents, including our safe harbor notice concerning forward-looking statements, on the investor relations page of the BCE.ca website. Before we begin, I'd like to draw your attention to our safe harbor statement on slide two of the presentation, reminding you that today, remarks made during the call will include forward-looking information and therefore are subject to risks and uncertainties. Results could differ materially. We disclaim any obligation to update forward-looking statements except as required by law. Please refer to our publicly filed documents for more details on assumptions and risks. With that out of the way, I'll turn the call over to Mirko.
Speaker #2: Matthew: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. My name is Chris Summers, Head of Investor Relations. With me here today are Mirko Bibic, BCE's President and CEO, and Curtis Millen, our CFO.
Speaker #2: You can find all our safe harbor notices concerning forward-looking statements on the Investor BCE.ca website. Before we begin, I'd like to draw your attention to our safe harbor statement on slide two of the presentation.
Speaker #2: Reminding you that today, remarks made during the call will include forward-looking information and therefore are subject to risks and uncertainties. Results could differ materially.
Speaker #2: We disclaim any obligation except as required by law. Please note, to update forward-looking statements, refer to our publicly filed documents for more details on assumptions and risks.
Speaker #2: With that out of the way, I'll turn the call over to Mirko.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'm looking forward to walking through our results and outlook with you in a short moment. First, I want to take a moment to frame where we are.
Mirko Bibic: Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'm looking forward to walking through our results and outlook with you in a short moment. First, I want to take a moment to frame where we are. In 2025, we had a pivotal year for BCE. It was a year of deliberate change, where we strengthened the balance sheet, we sharpened our capital allocation discipline, and clearly defined our long-term strategy at Investor Day in October of 2025. Over the course of 2025, we aligned the organization around four strategic priorities that leverage our unique and differentiated assets across fiber, wireless, enterprise, and media to deliver the very best for our customers, and we set clear measurable targets for the next phase of growth. So that groundwork is now in place.
Mirko Bibic: Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'm looking forward to walking through our results and outlook with you in a short moment. First, I want to take a moment to frame where we are. In 2025, we had a pivotal year for BCE. It was a year of deliberate change, where we strengthened the balance sheet, we sharpened our capital allocation discipline, and clearly defined our long-term strategy at Investor Day in October of 2025. Over the course of 2025, we aligned the organization around four strategic priorities that leverage our unique and differentiated assets across fiber, wireless, enterprise, and media to deliver the very best for our customers, and we set clear measurable targets for the next phase of growth. So that groundwork is now in place.
Speaker #3: In 2025, we had a pivotal year for BCE, was a year of deliberate change. Where we strengthened the balance sheet, we sharpened our capital allocation discipline and clearly defined our long-term strategy at investor day in October of course of 2025, we aligned the 2025.
Speaker #3: And over the organization around four strategic priorities that leverage our unique and differentiated assets across fiber, wireless, enterprise, and media to deliver the very best for our customers.
Speaker #3: And we set clear, measurable targets for the next phase of growth. So that groundwork is now in place. The strategy is clear. The priorities are set.
Mirko Bibic: The strategy's clear, the priorities are set, the company's aligned, and we've begun to execute against that plan. You could see that execution translate into momentum throughout 2025, including Q4, as we focused on improving customer experience, strengthening fiber and wireless network leadership in Canada, establishing a fiber growth platform in the US, accelerating momentum in enterprise and digital media, and positioning the business for sustainable free cash flow growth. I'd like to start on slide three of our deck with an overview of how we executed last year against those four strategic priorities. Putting the customer first, that remains foundational, and the results are tangible. Postpaid churn improved for the third consecutive quarter, with a 17 basis point year-over-year improvement in Q4. Importantly, the magnitude of improvement accelerated throughout the year, demonstrating sustained momentum as our customer-first initiatives take hold.
Mirko Bibic: The strategy's clear, the priorities are set, the company's aligned, and we've begun to execute against that plan. You could see that execution translate into momentum throughout 2025, including Q4, as we focused on improving customer experience, strengthening fiber and wireless network leadership in Canada, establishing a fiber growth platform in the US, accelerating momentum in enterprise and digital media, and positioning the business for sustainable free cash flow growth. I'd like to start on slide three of our deck with an overview of how we executed last year against those four strategic priorities. Putting the customer first, that remains foundational, and the results are tangible. Postpaid churn improved for the third consecutive quarter, with a 17 basis point year-over-year improvement in Q4. Importantly, the magnitude of improvement accelerated throughout the year, demonstrating sustained momentum as our customer-first initiatives take hold.
Speaker #3: We've begun to execute against that. The companies aligned and planned. You could see that execution translate into momentum throughout 2025, including the fourth quarter.
Speaker #3: As we focused on improving customer wireless network leadership in experience, strengthening fiber and Canada, establishing a fiber growth platform in the US, accelerating momentum in enterprise and digital media, and positioning the business for sustainable, free cash flow growth.
Speaker #3: And I'd like to start on slide three of our deck with an overview of how we executed last year against those four strategic priorities.
Speaker #3: So putting the customer first, that remains foundational. And the results are tangible. Post-paid churn improved for the third consecutive quarter, with a 17 basis point year-over-year improvement in Q4.
Speaker #3: Importantly, the magnitude of improvement accelerated throughout the year, demonstrating sustained momentum as our customer-first initiatives take hold. We made important progress in 2025 with the launch of differentiated wireless plan tiers that moved beyond traditional data buckets.
Mirko Bibic: We made important progress in 2025 with the launch of differentiated wireless plan tiers that move beyond traditional data buckets. These plans give customers clearer choices based on the experience they value most, including network performance, video quality, roaming features, device financing, and bundled content. We expanded our lead in distribution, with No Name Mobile now available in all Maxi stores across Quebec, extending access to affordable, contract-free wireless options powered by Bell's network. This reflects our customer-first focus on accessibility and choice across segments, while maintaining disciplined brand positioning. We also advanced the customer experience in 2025 with the rollout of our AI-powered voice virtual assistants across Bell, Virgin Plus, and Lucky Mobile. This simplifies interactions at scale and improves service quality.
Mirko Bibic: We made important progress in 2025 with the launch of differentiated wireless plan tiers that move beyond traditional data buckets. These plans give customers clearer choices based on the experience they value most, including network performance, video quality, roaming features, device financing, and bundled content. We expanded our lead in distribution, with No Name Mobile now available in all Maxi stores across Quebec, extending access to affordable, contract-free wireless options powered by Bell's network. This reflects our customer-first focus on accessibility and choice across segments, while maintaining disciplined brand positioning. We also advanced the customer experience in 2025 with the rollout of our AI-powered voice virtual assistants across Bell, Virgin Plus, and Lucky Mobile. This simplifies interactions at scale and improves service quality.
Speaker #3: These plans give customers clearer choices based on the experience they value most, including network performance, video quality, roaming features, device financing, and bundled content.
Speaker #3: We expanded our lead and distribution with all Maxi stores across no-name mobile, now available in Quebec. Extending access to affordable contract-free wireless options, powered by Bell's network.
Speaker #3: This reflects our customer-first focus on accessibility and choice across segments, while maintaining disciplined brand positioning. We also advanced the customer experience in 2025 with the rollout of our AI-powered voice virtual assistant across Bell, Virgin Plus, and Lucky Mobile.
Speaker #3: This simplifies interactions at scale and improves service quality. Our customer-first focus is reflected in the latest CCTS report, which showed that Bell continues to have the lowest proportion of complaints among the three largest national carriers.
Mirko Bibic: Our customer-first focus is reflected in the latest CCTS report, which showed that Bell continues to have the lowest proportion of complaints among the three largest national carriers. While there's a lot more work to do, the progress made last year reinforces our focus on continued churn improvement and further gains in customer experience metrics, such as NPS. In wireless, we continued to build momentum through 2025 with a clear improvement in our underlying ARPU trajectory and strong net new postpaid mobile phone additions on our main Bell brand, and that supports ARPU improvement going forward. We continue to take a disciplined approach to subscriber acquisition, with a focus on quality and lifetime value rather than chasing volume.
Mirko Bibic: Our customer-first focus is reflected in the latest CCTS report, which showed that Bell continues to have the lowest proportion of complaints among the three largest national carriers. While there's a lot more work to do, the progress made last year reinforces our focus on continued churn improvement and further gains in customer experience metrics, such as NPS. In wireless, we continued to build momentum through 2025 with a clear improvement in our underlying ARPU trajectory and strong net new postpaid mobile phone additions on our main Bell brand, and that supports ARPU improvement going forward. We continue to take a disciplined approach to subscriber acquisition, with a focus on quality and lifetime value rather than chasing volume.
Speaker #3: While there's a lot more work to do, the progress made last year reinforces our focus on continued churn improvement and further gains in customer experience metrics such as NPS.
Speaker #3: In wireless, we continue to build momentum through 2025 with a clear improvement in our underlying net new post-paid mobile phone additions on our main Bell brand.
Speaker #3: And that supports ARPU improvement going forward. We continue to take a disciplined approach to subscriber acquisition. With a focus on quality and lifetime value, rather than chasing volume.
Speaker #3: And you can see this in wireless service revenue, where the year-over-year rate of decline improved to just 0.2% in Q4, with consumer wireless service revenue stable in the quarter.
Mirko Bibic: You can see this in wireless service revenue, where the year-over-year rate of decline improved to just 0.2% in Q4, with consumer wireless service revenue stable in the quarter. Fiber continued to be a key growth driver last year, with approximately 200,000 net new subscriber additions, including our US operations. This contributed to internet revenue growth of 8%. Where we have fiber, we continue to win through superior network performance, higher customer satisfaction, and stronger multiproduct penetration. The acquisition of Ziply Fiber marked a key milestone in our fiber growth strategy, giving us a strong platform for long-term growth in the rapidly expanding US market. In 2025, Ziply's financial results, reported in our Bell CTS US segment, were comfortably in line with the expectations we outlined at Investor Day...
Mirko Bibic: You can see this in wireless service revenue, where the year-over-year rate of decline improved to just 0.2% in Q4, with consumer wireless service revenue stable in the quarter. Fiber continued to be a key growth driver last year, with approximately 200,000 net new subscriber additions, including our US operations. This contributed to internet revenue growth of 8%. Where we have fiber, we continue to win through superior network performance, higher customer satisfaction, and stronger multiproduct penetration. The acquisition of Ziply Fiber marked a key milestone in our fiber growth strategy, giving us a strong platform for long-term growth in the rapidly expanding US market. In 2025, Ziply's financial results, reported in our Bell CTS US segment, were comfortably in line with the expectations we outlined at Investor Day...
Speaker #3: Fiber continued to be a key growth driver last year, with approximately 200,000 net new subscriber additions including our US operations. This contributed to internet revenue growth of fiber, we continue to win.
Speaker #3: 8%. Through Where we have superior network performance, higher customer satisfaction, and stronger penetration. The acquisition of Zipli Fiber marked a key milestone in our fiber growth strategy.
Speaker #3: Giving us a strong platform for long-term growth in the rapidly expanding US multi-product market. In 2025, Zipli's financial results reported in our Bell CTS US segment were comfortably in line with the expectations we outlined at Investor Day.
Speaker #3: Since closing the acquisition, we've worked closely with the Zipli management team to refine and accelerate their fiber expansion plan. And with the network fiber co-partnership now in place, the build has been reprioritized toward higher-growth markets, with construction set to ramp meaningfully in the second half of 2026 and beyond.
Mirko Bibic: Since closing the acquisition, we've worked closely with the Ziply management team to refine and accelerate their fiber expansion plan. With the Network FiberCo partnership now in place, the build has been reprioritized toward higher growth markets, with construction set to ramp meaningfully in the second half of 2026 and beyond. This positions 2026 as an important build year for Ziply, putting us on the path toward our target of approximately 3 million fiber passings by the end of 2028, with a longer-term opportunity to reach up to 8 million locations in a capital-efficient manner. We also made continued progress on product intensity, driven by increased adoption of content subscriptions. With Crave adding more than 1 million subscribers in 2025, we're seeing clear momentum in the number of services per household.
Mirko Bibic: Since closing the acquisition, we've worked closely with the Ziply management team to refine and accelerate their fiber expansion plan. With the Network FiberCo partnership now in place, the build has been reprioritized toward higher growth markets, with construction set to ramp meaningfully in the second half of 2026 and beyond. This positions 2026 as an important build year for Ziply, putting us on the path toward our target of approximately 3 million fiber passings by the end of 2028, with a longer-term opportunity to reach up to 8 million locations in a capital-efficient manner. We also made continued progress on product intensity, driven by increased adoption of content subscriptions. With Crave adding more than 1 million subscribers in 2025, we're seeing clear momentum in the number of services per household.
Speaker #3: So this positions 2026 as an important build year for Zipli. Putting us on the path toward our target of approximately 3,000,000 fiber passings by the end of 2028, with a longer-term opportunity to reach up to capital-efficient manner.
Speaker #3: We also made continued progress on product intensity. Driven by increased adoption of content subscriptions, with Crave adding more than 1 million subscribers in 8,000,000 locations in 2025, we're seeing clear momentum in the number of services per household.
Mirko Bibic: Our focus remains on growing the number of services per household through mobility, internet, and content. We also launched hardware-free Fibe TV, delivering a full service experience without the need for a set-top box and allowing customers to use devices they already own. This simplifies installation and ongoing service, reduces complexity, and supports higher product intensity, while remaining highly scalable and capital efficient. Bell Pure Fibre and 5G wireless were once again recognized by Ookla as Canada's fastest networks, with Bell Pure Fibre also recognized as the fastest internet service in North America. This independent third-party validation reinforces the strength of our network leadership and customer value proposition. Now turning to Slide 4, and our next strategic priority, which is leading an enterprise with AI-powered solutions.
Mirko Bibic: Our focus remains on growing the number of services per household through mobility, internet, and content. We also launched hardware-free Fibe TV, delivering a full service experience without the need for a set-top box and allowing customers to use devices they already own. This simplifies installation and ongoing service, reduces complexity, and supports higher product intensity, while remaining highly scalable and capital efficient. Bell Pure Fibre and 5G wireless were once again recognized by Ookla as Canada's fastest networks, with Bell Pure Fibre also recognized as the fastest internet service in North America. This independent third-party validation reinforces the strength of our network leadership and customer value proposition. Now turning to Slide 4, and our next strategic priority, which is leading an enterprise with AI-powered solutions.
Speaker #3: Our focus remains on growing the number of services per household through mobility, internet, and content. We also launched hardware-free Fibe TV, delivering a full-service experience without the need for a set-top box and allowing customers to use devices they already own.
Speaker #3: This simplifies service, reduces complexity, and supports higher product intensity, while remaining highly scalable and capital-efficient. Bell pure fibre and 5G wireless were once again recognized by UCLA as Canada's fastest networks.
Speaker #3: With Bell pure fiber also recognized as the fastest internet service in North America. This independent third-party validation reinforces the strength of our network leadership and customer value proposition.
Speaker #3: Now turning to slide four. In our next strategic priority, which is leading an enterprise with AI-powered solutions. In 2025, Bell Business Markets delivered relatively stable revenue and EBITDA performance, which really stands out in an environment where many enterprise telecom businesses continue to face pressure.
Mirko Bibic: In 2025, Bell Business Markets delivered relatively stable revenue and EBITDA performance, which really stands out in an environment where many enterprise telecom businesses continue to face pressure. This reflects the actions we've taken over the past 18 months or so to reshape our enterprise strategy. The three AI-powered solutions businesses we launched in 2025, Ateko, Bell Cyber, and Bell AI Fabric, were key contributors, collectively growing approximately 60% year-over-year to around CAD 700 million in revenue. Each of these is scaling as planned, and each supports our goal of reaching CAD 1.5 billion in AI-powered solutions revenue by 2028. Importantly, this represents largely net new revenue and EBITDA for Bell, which complements rather than replaces our core connectivity and communication services.
Mirko Bibic: In 2025, Bell Business Markets delivered relatively stable revenue and EBITDA performance, which really stands out in an environment where many enterprise telecom businesses continue to face pressure. This reflects the actions we've taken over the past 18 months or so to reshape our enterprise strategy. The three AI-powered solutions businesses we launched in 2025, Ateko, Bell Cyber, and Bell AI Fabric, were key contributors, collectively growing approximately 60% year-over-year to around CAD 700 million in revenue. Each of these is scaling as planned, and each supports our goal of reaching CAD 1.5 billion in AI-powered solutions revenue by 2028. Importantly, this represents largely net new revenue and EBITDA for Bell, which complements rather than replaces our core connectivity and communication services.
Speaker #3: This reflects the actions we've taken over the past 18 months or so to reshape our enterprise strategy. The three AI-powered solutions businesses we launched in 2025—Ateco, Bell Cyber, and Bell AI Fabric—were key contributors.
Speaker #3: Collectively growing approximately 60% year-over-year to around $700 million in revenue. Each of these is scaling as planned and each supports our goal of reaching $1.5 billion in AI-powered solutions revenue by 2028.
Speaker #3: Importantly, this represents largely net new revenue and EBITDA for Bell. Which complements rather than replaces our core connectivity and communication services. We continue to strengthen these platforms, including Ateco's recent acquisition of SDK tech services which took place in December of 2025.
Mirko Bibic: We continue to strengthen these platforms, including Ateko's recent acquisition of SDK Tek Services, which took place in December 2025. SDK Tek adds deep data engineering and analytics expertise, helping enterprises and governments organize and use their data effectively, and that's critical to deploy AI at scale. The acquisition improves our full stack AI solution set. Now turning to media. Our digital strategy continued to deliver in 2025, with digital revenues up 6% year over year and now representing 44% of total media revenue. And this performance was powered by Crave, which, as I noted earlier, had an outstanding year, ending with 4.6 million subscribers, alongside continued growth in Connected TV, Crave with ads, and fast channels.
Mirko Bibic: We continue to strengthen these platforms, including Ateko's recent acquisition of SDK Tek Services, which took place in December 2025. SDK Tek adds deep data engineering and analytics expertise, helping enterprises and governments organize and use their data effectively, and that's critical to deploy AI at scale. The acquisition improves our full stack AI solution set. Now turning to media. Our digital strategy continued to deliver in 2025, with digital revenues up 6% year over year and now representing 44% of total media revenue. And this performance was powered by Crave, which, as I noted earlier, had an outstanding year, ending with 4.6 million subscribers, alongside continued growth in Connected TV, Crave with ads, and fast channels.
Speaker #3: SDK tech adds deep data engineering and analytics expertise helping enterprises and governments organize and use their data effectively. And that's critical to deploy AI at scale.
Speaker #3: The acquisition improves our full-stack AI solution set. Now turning to media. Our digital strategy continued to deliver in 2025 with digital revenues up 6% year-over-year and now representing $44% of total media revenue.
Speaker #3: And this performance was powered by Crave, which, as I noted earlier, had an outstanding year, ending with 4.6 million subscribers. Alongside continued growth in Connected TV, Crave with Ads, and FAST, we deliver consistent annual revenue and channels.
Mirko Bibic: Our focus for Bell Media is to deliver consistent annual revenue and EBITDA growth, and we achieved that in 2025 as the business continues to shift toward higher value digital and subscription revenue streams. We also made a significant transformation to the Crave platform, expanding the content library by more than 10,000 hours and integrating live programming from CTV and Noovo, news, select major sports, premium entertainment events, and an expanded kids collection. All of this supported by meaningful user experience enhancements. Our focus on original content was another key driver in 2025. Early in the year, Empathie became a major French language success in Canada and gained strong traction in France. More recently, Heated Rivalry has emerged as a global sensation, generating significant media attention and cultural impact, and underscoring the strength of our investment in premium Canadian storytelling.
Mirko Bibic: Our focus for Bell Media is to deliver consistent annual revenue and EBITDA growth, and we achieved that in 2025 as the business continues to shift toward higher value digital and subscription revenue streams. We also made a significant transformation to the Crave platform, expanding the content library by more than 10,000 hours and integrating live programming from CTV and Noovo, news, select major sports, premium entertainment events, and an expanded kids collection. All of this supported by meaningful user experience enhancements. Our focus on original content was another key driver in 2025. Early in the year, Empathie became a major French language success in Canada and gained strong traction in France. More recently, Heated Rivalry has emerged as a global sensation, generating significant media attention and cultural impact, and underscoring the strength of our investment in premium Canadian storytelling.
Speaker #3: EBITDA growth. And we achieved that in Our focus for Bell Media is to 2025 as the business continues to shift toward higher value digital and subscription revenue streams.
Speaker #3: We also made a significant transformation to the Crave platform, expanding the content library by more than 10,000 hours and integrating live programming from CTV and Nouveau news, select major sports and premium entertainment events, and an expanded kids' collection.
Speaker #3: All of this supported by meaningful user experience enhancements. Our focus on original content was another key driver in 2025. Early in the year, Empathie became a major French language success in Canada and gained strong traction in France.
Speaker #3: More recently, heated rivalry has emerged as a global sensation. Generating significant media attention and cultural impact and underscoring the strength of our investment in premium Canadian storytelling.
Speaker #3: From a strategic standpoint, our focus is on delivering premium content to customers through digital platforms and extending its value by monetizing that content more effectively across the full value chain.
Mirko Bibic: From a strategic standpoint, our focus is on delivering premium content to customers through digital platforms and extending its value by monetizing that content more effectively across the full value chain. Looking ahead, Bell Media is off to a strong start in 2026. NFL viewership through the playoffs has been very encouraging, and we're excited about the FIFA World Cup this summer, which presents a significant audience and monetization opportunity. Taken together, Bell Media is contributing meaningfully to growth, churn reduction, and customer lifetime value across the Bell ecosystem. Overall, therefore, across all four priorities, 2025 was about building momentum. Now I'll turn to Slide 5. I want to touch briefly on capital allocation, because this too has been a consistent focus for us over the past year.
Mirko Bibic: From a strategic standpoint, our focus is on delivering premium content to customers through digital platforms and extending its value by monetizing that content more effectively across the full value chain. Looking ahead, Bell Media is off to a strong start in 2026. NFL viewership through the playoffs has been very encouraging, and we're excited about the FIFA World Cup this summer, which presents a significant audience and monetization opportunity. Taken together, Bell Media is contributing meaningfully to growth, churn reduction, and customer lifetime value across the Bell ecosystem. Overall, therefore, across all four priorities, 2025 was about building momentum. Now I'll turn to Slide 5. I want to touch briefly on capital allocation, because this too has been a consistent focus for us over the past year.
Speaker #3: Bell Media is off to a strong start in 2026. NFL And looking ahead, encouraging and we're excited about the FIFA World Cup this summer.
Speaker #3: Which presents a significant audience and monetization opportunity. So taken together, Bell Media is contributing meaningfully to growth, churn reduction, and customer lifetime value across the Bell ecosystem.
Speaker #3: therefore, across all four Overall, building momentum. So now I'll turn to slide five. I want to touch briefly on this too has been a consistent focus for us over the past year.
Speaker #3: If you go back to our February 2025 call, pretty much exactly a year ago, we were do. And that simplify the business, strengthen the balance sheet, focus capital on higher return opportunities, and return capital to shareholders through a sustainable dividend.
Mirko Bibic: If you go back to our February 2025 call, pretty much exactly a year ago, we were very clear about what we intended to do, and that's simplify the business, strengthen the balance sheet, focus capital on higher return opportunities, and return capital to shareholders through a sustainable dividend. We reinforced that roadmap at Investor Day in October of 2025, providing greater transparency around our capital allocation priorities, leverage targets, and investment framework. The roadmap has not changed. Turning to slide 6, this highlights the early progress we're making against the three-year targets we laid out at Investor Day. These are some of the metrics we'll use to measure progress. They include churn, Bell-branded loadings, product intensity, internet market share, US fiber expansion, AI-powered solutions growth, and Crave subscriber and digital mix at Bell Media.
Mirko Bibic: If you go back to our February 2025 call, pretty much exactly a year ago, we were very clear about what we intended to do, and that's simplify the business, strengthen the balance sheet, focus capital on higher return opportunities, and return capital to shareholders through a sustainable dividend. We reinforced that roadmap at Investor Day in October of 2025, providing greater transparency around our capital allocation priorities, leverage targets, and investment framework. The roadmap has not changed. Turning to slide 6, this highlights the early progress we're making against the three-year targets we laid out at Investor Day. These are some of the metrics we'll use to measure progress. They include churn, Bell-branded loadings, product intensity, internet market share, US fiber expansion, AI-powered solutions growth, and Crave subscriber and digital mix at Bell Media.
Speaker #3: And we reinforced that roadmap at investor day in October of 2025, providing greater transparency around our capital allocation priorities, leverage targets, and investment framework.
Speaker #3: The roadmap has not changed. Turning to slide six, this highlights the early progress we're making against the three-year targets we laid out at Investor Day.
Speaker #3: These are some of the metrics we'll use to measure progress. They include churn, Bell-branded loadings, product intensity, Internet market share, US fiber expansion, AI-powered solutions growth, and Crave subscriber and digital mix at Bell Media.
Speaker #3: This scorecard is how we intend to manage the company and how we expect to be measured. We're still early in the execution phase, and we're encouraged by the momentum we're seeing.
Mirko Bibic: This scorecard is how we intend to manage the company and how we expect to be measured. We're still early in the execution phase, and we're encouraged by the momentum we're seeing. Taken together, these indicators show that the strategy is translating into disciplined execution. So 2025 set the foundation, and in 2026, the dedicated Bell team will continue to execute our way to the 2028 targets with a clear focus on delivering sustainable returns for our shareholders. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Curtis, and Curtis will walk you through our Q4 operating results and the 2026 financial guidance. Thanks for your attention, everyone.
Mirko Bibic: This scorecard is how we intend to manage the company and how we expect to be measured. We're still early in the execution phase, and we're encouraged by the momentum we're seeing. Taken together, these indicators show that the strategy is translating into disciplined execution. So 2025 set the foundation, and in 2026, the dedicated Bell team will continue to execute our way to the 2028 targets with a clear focus on delivering sustainable returns for our shareholders. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Curtis, and Curtis will walk you through our Q4 operating results and the 2026 financial guidance. Thanks for your attention, everyone.
Speaker #3: Taken together, these indicators show the show that the strategy is translating into disciplined execution. So 2025 set the foundation, and in 2026, the dedicated Bell team will continue to execute our way to the 2028 targets with a clear focus on delivering sustainable returns for our shareholders.
Speaker #3: And with that, I'll turn the call over to Curtis and Curtis will walk you through our Q4 operating results. And the 2026 financial guidance.
Speaker #3: Thanks for your attention, everyone. Fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results demonstrate the stability of our business and our ability to deliver on the strategic and financial commitments we outlined over the past year, including at Investor Day.
Speaker #3: everyone.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Mirko. And good morning,
Curtis Millen: Thank you, Mirko, and good morning, everyone. Our strong Q4 and full year 2025 financial results demonstrate the stability of our business and our ability to deliver on the strategic and financial commitments we outlined over the past year, including at Investor Day. On a consolidated basis, we achieved all of our 2025 financial guidance targets, reflecting disciplined execution across the organization. 2025, service revenue increased 0.6% for the year, supported by contributions from Ziply Fiber and continued resilience in our core businesses. Adjusted EBITDA increased 0.7%, driving a 20 basis point improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin to 43.6%, the strongest annual margin result we've delivered in more than 30 years.
Curtis Millen: Thank you, Mirko, and good morning, everyone. Our strong Q4 and full year 2025 financial results demonstrate the stability of our business and our ability to deliver on the strategic and financial commitments we outlined over the past year, including at Investor Day. On a consolidated basis, we achieved all of our 2025 financial guidance targets, reflecting disciplined execution across the organization. 2025, service revenue increased 0.6% for the year, supported by contributions from Ziply Fiber and continued resilience in our core businesses. Adjusted EBITDA increased 0.7%, driving a 20 basis point improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin to 43.6%, the strongest annual margin result we've delivered in more than 30 years.
Speaker #3: Our strong
Speaker #3: On a consolidated basis, we achieved all of our 2025 financial guidance targets, reflecting disciplined execution across the organization. 2025 service revenue increased about 6% for the year, supported by contributions from Zipli Fiber and continued resilience in our core businesses.
Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA increased about 7%, driving a $20 basis point improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin to $43.6%, the strongest annual margin result we've delivered in more than 30 years.
Speaker #3: Adjusted EPS declined 7.9% in '25, consistent with our guidance and primarily reflecting higher network investment, along with increased interest expense. Capital expenditures declined by $197 million to $3.7 billion, resulting in a capital intensity of 15.1%, in line with guidance and consistent with our longer-term objective to reduce capital intensity.
Curtis Millen: Adjusted EPS declined 7.9% in 2025, consistent with our guidance and primarily reflecting higher depreciation and amortization from ongoing network investments, along with increased interest expense. Capital expenditures declined by CAD 197 million to CAD 3.7 billion, resulting in a capital intensity of 15.1%, in line with guidance and consistent with our longer-term objective to reduce capital intensity. We delivered a 10% increase in free cash flow to CAD 3.2 billion, toward the upper end of our guidance range, driven by higher EBITDA, lower CapEx, and improved working capital. Free cash flow after payment of lease liabilities increased 17.5%, an important metric in the three-year financial outlook we shared at Investor Day, where we continue to target approximately 15% CAGR. We're entering 2026 with solid momentum in cash generation.
Curtis Millen: Adjusted EPS declined 7.9% in 2025, consistent with our guidance and primarily reflecting higher depreciation and amortization from ongoing network investments, along with increased interest expense. Capital expenditures declined by CAD 197 million to CAD 3.7 billion, resulting in a capital intensity of 15.1%, in line with guidance and consistent with our longer-term objective to reduce capital intensity. We delivered a 10% increase in free cash flow to CAD 3.2 billion, toward the upper end of our guidance range, driven by higher EBITDA, lower CapEx, and improved working capital. Free cash flow after payment of lease liabilities increased 17.5%, an important metric in the three-year financial outlook we shared at Investor Day, where we continue to target approximately 15% CAGR. We're entering 2026 with solid momentum in cash generation.
Speaker #3: We delivered a 10% increase in free cash flow, to $3.2 billion, toward the upper end of our guidance range. This was driven by higher EBITDA, lower CapEx, and improved working capital.
Speaker #3: Free cash flow after payment of lease liabilities increased 17.5%, an important metric in the three-year financial outlook we shared at Investor Day, where we continue to target approximately 15% CAGR.
Speaker #3: We're entering 2026 with solid momentum in cash generation. At the segment level, there's clear momentum at Bell Business Markets, reflected in relatively stable revenue and EBITDA in '25.
Curtis Millen: At the segment level, there's clear momentum at Bell Business Markets, reflected in relatively stable revenue and EBITDA in 2025, while Bell Media delivered positive revenue and EBITDA growth for the full year, consistent with the execution themes Mirko outlined earlier. Turning to Q4 on slide 9, I'll begin with a summary of Bell CTS Canada subscriber metrics. Postpaid wireless net adds of 56,124 were essentially stable year-over-year, despite a less active market. Consistent with our well-articulated strategy to balance loadings with improved financials and customer experience, we focused on higher quality, margin-accretive subs again this quarter. As a result of this continued disciplined approach, we added a significant number of customers on the premium Bell brand. Postpaid churn improved 17 basis points to 1.49%, marking our third consecutive quarter of year-over-year improvement.
Curtis Millen: At the segment level, there's clear momentum at Bell Business Markets, reflected in relatively stable revenue and EBITDA in 2025, while Bell Media delivered positive revenue and EBITDA growth for the full year, consistent with the execution themes Mirko outlined earlier. Turning to Q4 on slide 9, I'll begin with a summary of Bell CTS Canada subscriber metrics. Postpaid wireless net adds of 56,124 were essentially stable year-over-year, despite a less active market. Consistent with our well-articulated strategy to balance loadings with improved financials and customer experience, we focused on higher quality, margin-accretive subs again this quarter. As a result of this continued disciplined approach, we added a significant number of customers on the premium Bell brand. Postpaid churn improved 17 basis points to 1.49%, marking our third consecutive quarter of year-over-year improvement.
Speaker #3: While Bell Media delivered positive revenue and EBITDA growth for the full year. Consistent with the execution themes Mirko outlined earlier. Turning to Q4 on slide nine, I'll begin with a summary of Bell CTS Canada subscriber metrics.
Speaker #3: Postpaid wireless net adds of $56,124 were essentially stable year over year, despite a less active market. Consistent with our well-articulated strategy, to balance loadings with improved financials and customer experience, we focused on higher quality margin accretive subs again this quarter.
Speaker #3: As a result of this continued disciplined approach, we added a significant number of customers on the premium Bell brand. Postpaid churn improved 17 basis points, to 1.49%, marking our third consecutive quarter of year-over-year improvement.
Speaker #3: This is a direct outcome of our focus on putting the customer first. Mobile phone ARPU declined just .8%, significant improvement from the 2.7 decline in Q4 of last year.
Curtis Millen: This is a direct outcome of our focus on putting the customer first. Mobile phone ARPU declined just 0.8%, significant improvement from the 2.7% decline in Q4 of last year. We also saw a recovery in consumer roaming revenue, which has continued into the early part of Q1 and is encouraging for future ARPU performance. In wireline, we delivered 43,000 fiber-to-the-home internet net adds in the quarter, a strong result, given the slowdown in our Canadian fiber build and disciplined pricing reflective of the value we deliver to customers. Let me turn now to Q4 financials for Bell CTS Canada. Internet revenue increased approximately 2%, reflecting the same approach as in wireless, a healthy balance between sub growth and disciplined pricing, supported by fiber. In our enterprise business, AI-powered solutions revenue grew 31%, driven by continued momentum at Ateko and Bell Cyber.
Curtis Millen: This is a direct outcome of our focus on putting the customer first. Mobile phone ARPU declined just 0.8%, significant improvement from the 2.7% decline in Q4 of last year. We also saw a recovery in consumer roaming revenue, which has continued into the early part of Q1 and is encouraging for future ARPU performance. In wireline, we delivered 43,000 fiber-to-the-home internet net adds in the quarter, a strong result, given the slowdown in our Canadian fiber build and disciplined pricing reflective of the value we deliver to customers. Let me turn now to Q4 financials for Bell CTS Canada. Internet revenue increased approximately 2%, reflecting the same approach as in wireless, a healthy balance between sub growth and disciplined pricing, supported by fiber. In our enterprise business, AI-powered solutions revenue grew 31%, driven by continued momentum at Ateko and Bell Cyber.
Speaker #3: We also saw recovery in consumer roaming revenue, which has continued into the early part of Q1 and is encouraging for future ARPU performance. In wireline, we delivered 43,500 home internet net adds in the quarter.
Speaker #3: A strong result given the slowdown in our Canadian fiber build and disciplined pricing reflective of the value we deliver to customers. Let me turn now to Q4 financials for Bell CTS Canada.
Speaker #3: Internet revenue increased approximately 2%, reflecting the same approach as in wireless, a healthy balance between sub-growth and disciplined pricing supported by fiber. In our enterprise business, AI-powered solutions revenue grew 31%, driven by continued momentum at a techco and Bell cyber.
Speaker #3: We remain focused on scaling these growth factors as part of our plan to reach 1.5 billion in 2028. Wireless service revenue declined .2%, an AI-powered solutions revenue by improvement from the .4% decline in Q3, and meaningfully better.
Curtis Millen: We remain focused on scaling these growth vectors as part of our plan to reach CAD 1.5 billion in AI-powered solutions revenue by 2028. Wireless service revenue declined 0.2%, an improvement from the 0.4% decline in Q3, and meaningfully better than the 1.5% decline in Q4 of last year. Importantly, consumer wireless service revenue was stable year-over-year in the quarter, an encouraging sign as we enter 2026. On the product side, revenue declined CAD 170 million year-over-year, driven by a pronounced market shift towards BYOD activity in December, which resulted in a 20% reduction in contracted device sales, as well as the timing of certain wireline equipment deals with large enterprise customers. Importantly, the EBITDA impact was limited, as these product revenues are very low margin.
Curtis Millen: We remain focused on scaling these growth vectors as part of our plan to reach CAD 1.5 billion in AI-powered solutions revenue by 2028. Wireless service revenue declined 0.2%, an improvement from the 0.4% decline in Q3, and meaningfully better than the 1.5% decline in Q4 of last year. Importantly, consumer wireless service revenue was stable year-over-year in the quarter, an encouraging sign as we enter 2026. On the product side, revenue declined CAD 170 million year-over-year, driven by a pronounced market shift towards BYOD activity in December, which resulted in a 20% reduction in contracted device sales, as well as the timing of certain wireline equipment deals with large enterprise customers. Importantly, the EBITDA impact was limited, as these product revenues are very low margin.
Speaker #3: …than the 1.5% decline in Q4 of last year. Importantly, consumer wireless service revenue was stable year over year in the quarter—an encouraging sign as we enter 2026.
Speaker #3: On the product side, revenue declined 170 million year over year, driven by a pronounced market shift towards BYOD activity in December. Which resulted in a 20% reduction in contracted device sales, as well as the timing of certain wireline equipment deals with large enterprise customers.
Speaker #3: Importantly, the EBITDA impact was limited as these product revenues are very low margin. Overall, EBITDA performance was in line with plan and adjusted EBITDA margin increased 130 basis points year over year to $44.2%, reflecting strong cost discipline including a 6.1% reduction in operating costs.
Curtis Millen: Overall, EBITDA performance was in line with plans, and adjusted EBITDA margin increased 130 basis points year-over-year to 44.2%, reflecting strong cost discipline, including a 6.1% reduction in operating costs and margin-accretive subscriber growth. Turning to Bell CTS US, which reflects the results of Ziply Fiber's operations. As Mirko mentioned earlier, Ziply's financial performance for 2025 was consistent with the expectations we shared at Investor Day, reflecting solid execution as we position the business for its next phase of growth. In the Q4, total revenue was $232 million, driven by continued strength of Ziply's fiber platform. Internet revenue grew in the double digits, supported by ongoing expansion of the fiber footprint and strong customer penetration across new and existing markets. Excuse me.
Curtis Millen: Overall, EBITDA performance was in line with plans, and adjusted EBITDA margin increased 130 basis points year-over-year to 44.2%, reflecting strong cost discipline, including a 6.1% reduction in operating costs and margin-accretive subscriber growth. Turning to Bell CTS US, which reflects the results of Ziply Fiber's operations. As Mirko mentioned earlier, Ziply's financial performance for 2025 was consistent with the expectations we shared at Investor Day, reflecting solid execution as we position the business for its next phase of growth. In the Q4, total revenue was $232 million, driven by continued strength of Ziply's fiber platform. Internet revenue grew in the double digits, supported by ongoing expansion of the fiber footprint and strong customer penetration across new and existing markets. Excuse me.
Speaker #3: And margin accretive subscriber growth. Turning to Bell CTS US. Which reflects the results of Zipli Fiber's operations. As Mirko mentioned earlier, Zipli's financial performance for 2025 was consistent with the expectations we shared at investor day.
Speaker #3: Reflecting solid execution as we positioned the business for its next phase of growth. In the fourth quarter, total revenue was $232 million, driven by continued strength of Zipli's fiber platform.
Speaker #3: Internet revenue grew in the double digits, supported by ongoing expansion of the fiber footprint and strong customer penetration, across new and existing markets. Excuse me.
Speaker #3: Bell CTS US delivered $100 million of EBITDA in Q4, representing a 43.1% operating leverage in the business. With significant margin. runway ahead, we expect robust Demonstrating strong revenue and EBITDA growth from Bell CTS US as the management team advances Zipli Fiber's 2028 financial ambition presented at investor day.
Curtis Millen: Bell CTS US delivered $100 million of EBITDA in Q4, representing a 43.1% margin, demonstrating strong operating leverage in the business. With significant runway ahead, we expect robust revenue and EBITDA growth from Bell CTS US as the management team advances Ziply Fiber's 2028 financial ambition presented at Investor Day. On the subscriber front, Ziply added more than 6,000 net new fiber customers in Q4, supported by footprint expansion and strong penetration in newly built areas. Ziply's fiber build plan has now been reprioritized toward higher growth markets and is set to accelerate in 2026, putting the business on track to reach approximately 3 million fiber passes by the end of 2028. Turning to Bell Media on slide 11. As projected, total revenue declined 3.4% in Q4.
Curtis Millen: Bell CTS US delivered $100 million of EBITDA in Q4, representing a 43.1% margin, demonstrating strong operating leverage in the business. With significant runway ahead, we expect robust revenue and EBITDA growth from Bell CTS US as the management team advances Ziply Fiber's 2028 financial ambition presented at Investor Day. On the subscriber front, Ziply added more than 6,000 net new fiber customers in Q4, supported by footprint expansion and strong penetration in newly built areas. Ziply's fiber build plan has now been reprioritized toward higher growth markets and is set to accelerate in 2026, putting the business on track to reach approximately 3 million fiber passes by the end of 2028. Turning to Bell Media on slide 11. As projected, total revenue declined 3.4% in Q4.
Speaker #3: On the subscriber front, Zipli added more than 6,000 net new fiber customers in Q4, supported by footprint expansion and strong penetration in newly built areas.
Speaker #3: Zipli's fiber build plan has now been reprioritized toward higher growth markets and is set to accelerate in 2026. Putting the business on track to reach approximately 3,000 fiber passings by the end of 2028.
Speaker #3: Turning to Bell Media on slide 11. As projected, total revenue declined 3.4% in Q4. Despite strong digital video advertising growth, total advertising revenue was down 11.1%, reflecting continued softness in traditional advertising demand for non-sports programming, as well as the impact of the divestiture of 45 radio stations, which was completed in the first half of 2025.
Curtis Millen: Despite strong digital video advertising growth, total advertising revenue was down 11.1%, reflecting continued softness in traditional advertising, demand for non-sports programming, as well as the impact of the divestiture of 45 radio stations, which was completed in the first half of 2025. Subscriber revenue increased 1.5%, driven by continued strength in D2C Crave and sports streaming. Crave's direct streaming subscribers grew 65% year over year, supported by market-leading content, including Heated Rivalry, which continues to generate strong domestic and international engagement and underpin subscriber growth. Operating costs declined 1.5%, driven by lower content costs and ongoing operating efficiencies. Importantly, Bell Media delivered positive revenue and EBITDA growth for the full year, consistent with our objective for this business to be a stable and growing contributor to BCE's financial performance.
Curtis Millen: Despite strong digital video advertising growth, total advertising revenue was down 11.1%, reflecting continued softness in traditional advertising, demand for non-sports programming, as well as the impact of the divestiture of 45 radio stations, which was completed in the first half of 2025. Subscriber revenue increased 1.5%, driven by continued strength in D2C Crave and sports streaming. Crave's direct streaming subscribers grew 65% year over year, supported by market-leading content, including Heated Rivalry, which continues to generate strong domestic and international engagement and underpin subscriber growth. Operating costs declined 1.5%, driven by lower content costs and ongoing operating efficiencies. Importantly, Bell Media delivered positive revenue and EBITDA growth for the full year, consistent with our objective for this business to be a stable and growing contributor to BCE's financial performance.
Speaker #3: Subscriber revenue increased 1.5%, driven by continued strength in D2C crave and sports streaming. Crave's direct streaming subscribers grew 65% year over year, supported by market-leading content, including heated rivalry, which continues to generate strong domestic and international engagement and underpin subscriber growth.
Speaker #3: Operating costs declined 1.5%, driven by lower content costs and ongoing operating efficiencies. Importantly, Bell Media delivered positive revenue and EBITDA growth for the full year.
Speaker #3: Consistent with our objective for this business to be a stable and growing contributor to BCE's financial performance, our focus remains unchanged. For Bell Media to consistently deliver annual revenue and EBITDA growth, while contributing meaningful free cash flow to BCE as the business continues to shift toward higher-value digital and subscription revenue streams.
Curtis Millen: Our focus remains unchanged for Bell Media to consistently deliver annual revenue and EBITDA growth while contributing meaningful free cash flow to BCE as the business continues to shift toward higher-value digital and subscription revenue streams. I'll now turn to our 2026 outlook, beginning with revenue and adjusted EBITDA on slide 13. Our 2026 guidance is fully aligned with the three-year financial outlook we shared at Investor Day and reflects continued momentum in our core growth engines, fiber, wireless, AI-powered enterprise solutions, and digital media, while we continue to diligently manage declines in higher-margin legacy services. For 2026, we expect consolidated revenue growth of 1% to 5% and adjusted EBITDA growth of 0% to 4%, representing a step up from 2025.
Curtis Millen: Our focus remains unchanged for Bell Media to consistently deliver annual revenue and EBITDA growth while contributing meaningful free cash flow to BCE as the business continues to shift toward higher-value digital and subscription revenue streams. I'll now turn to our 2026 outlook, beginning with revenue and adjusted EBITDA on slide 13. Our 2026 guidance is fully aligned with the three-year financial outlook we shared at Investor Day and reflects continued momentum in our core growth engines, fiber, wireless, AI-powered enterprise solutions, and digital media, while we continue to diligently manage declines in higher-margin legacy services. For 2026, we expect consolidated revenue growth of 1% to 5% and adjusted EBITDA growth of 0% to 4%, representing a step up from 2025.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn to our 2026 outlook. Beginning with revenue and adjusted EBITDA on slide 13. Our 2026 guidance is fully aligned with the three-year financial outlook.
Speaker #3: We shared at investor day. And reflects continued momentum in our core growth engines, fiber, wireless, AI-powered enterprise solutions, and digital media. While we continue to diligently manage the clients, in higher margin legacy services.
Speaker #3: We expect consolidated revenue for 2026 to grow by 1% to 5%, and adjusted EBITDA growth of 0% to 4%, representing a step up from 2025.
Speaker #3: The width of these ranges consistent with prior years, and I'd note we remain highly focused on operating efficiencies and continue to expect to deliver 1.5 billion in cost savings by 2028.
Curtis Millen: The width of these range is consistent with prior years, and I'd note we remain highly focused on operating efficiencies and continue to expect to deliver CAD 1.5 billion in cost savings by 2028. Over to slide 14, for a summary of our adjusted EPS outlook. We project adjusted EPS to be in the range of CAD 2.5 to 2.65 dollars per share in 2026, or 5% to 11% lower versus last year. This decline can be largely attributed to an approximate CAD 250 million dollar step-up in depreciation and amortization expense, reflecting continued investment in our broadband networks, as well as the impact of the Ziply Fiber acquisition, and an estimated CAD 100 million dollar increase in interest expense, driven by a higher level of debt outstanding related to Ziply Fiber acquisition.
Curtis Millen: The width of these range is consistent with prior years, and I'd note we remain highly focused on operating efficiencies and continue to expect to deliver CAD 1.5 billion in cost savings by 2028. Over to slide 14, for a summary of our adjusted EPS outlook. We project adjusted EPS to be in the range of CAD 2.5 to 2.65 dollars per share in 2026, or 5% to 11% lower versus last year. This decline can be largely attributed to an approximate CAD 250 million dollar step-up in depreciation and amortization expense, reflecting continued investment in our broadband networks, as well as the impact of the Ziply Fiber acquisition, and an estimated CAD 100 million dollar increase in interest expense, driven by a higher level of debt outstanding related to Ziply Fiber acquisition.
Speaker #3: Over to slide 14. For a summary of our adjusted EPS to be in the range of 2.5 to 2.65 dollars per share in 2026, outlook.
Speaker #3: or 5 to 11% We project adjusted EPS lower versus last year. This decline can be largely attributed to an approximate $250 million step up in depreciation and amortization expense, reflecting continued investment in our broadband networks, as well as the impact of the Zipli fiber acquisition.
Speaker #3: And an estimated $100 million increase in interest expense, driven by a higher level of debt outstanding related to Zipli fiber acquisition. In addition, we expect tax adjustments to be around 2 cents per share, lower than in 2025, as we are not forecasting any tax adjustments in 2026.
Curtis Millen: In addition, we expect tax adjustments to be around CAD 0.02 per share, lower than in 2025, as we are not forecasting any tax adjustments in 2026. Turning to slide 15. We expect another strong year of free cash flow generation in 2026. Free cash flow is projected to grow between 4% and 10%, reflecting strong flow-through from higher EBITDA and lower year-over-year severance payments, partially offset by higher interest paid. Consistent with the outlook we shared at Investor Day, capital expenditures in 2026 are expected to remain relatively stable at approximately CAD 3.7 billion, resulting in a lower capital intensity of 15% or less.
Curtis Millen: In addition, we expect tax adjustments to be around CAD 0.02 per share, lower than in 2025, as we are not forecasting any tax adjustments in 2026. Turning to slide 15. We expect another strong year of free cash flow generation in 2026. Free cash flow is projected to grow between 4% and 10%, reflecting strong flow-through from higher EBITDA and lower year-over-year severance payments, partially offset by higher interest paid. Consistent with the outlook we shared at Investor Day, capital expenditures in 2026 are expected to remain relatively stable at approximately CAD 3.7 billion, resulting in a lower capital intensity of 15% or less.
Speaker #3: Turning to slide 15. We expect another strong year of free cash flow generation in 2026. Free cash flow is projected to grow between 4 and 10%, reflecting strong flow-through from higher EBITDA and lower year-over-year severance payments, partially offset by higher interest paid.
Speaker #3: Consistent with the outlook we shared at Investor Day, capital expenditures in 2026 are expected to remain relatively stable at approximately $3.7 billion, resulting in a lower capital intensity of 15% or less.
Speaker #3: Within that stable total CapEx envelope, we'll continue to fund our growth initiatives. Supported by efficiencies from prior investments, that are reducing ongoing run-the-business capital requirements, and creating additional flexibility to allocate capital, towards strategic investments and growth opportunities.
Curtis Millen: Within that stable total CapEx envelope, we'll continue to fund our growth initiatives, supported by efficiencies from prior investments that are reducing ongoing run the business capital requirements and creating additional flexibility to allocate capital towards strategic investments and growth opportunities. Our free cash flow outlook also reflects stable to slightly lower cash taxes, largely unchanged working cap position, and essentially flat cash pension funding as we continue to benefit from a full contribution holiday, supported by the strong solvency position of our defined benefit pension plans. With this level of robust and predictable free cash flow generation, we expect BCE's dividend payout ratio to remain comfortably within our target policy range of 40 to 55%.
Curtis Millen: Within that stable total CapEx envelope, we'll continue to fund our growth initiatives, supported by efficiencies from prior investments that are reducing ongoing run the business capital requirements and creating additional flexibility to allocate capital towards strategic investments and growth opportunities. Our free cash flow outlook also reflects stable to slightly lower cash taxes, largely unchanged working cap position, and essentially flat cash pension funding as we continue to benefit from a full contribution holiday, supported by the strong solvency position of our defined benefit pension plans. With this level of robust and predictable free cash flow generation, we expect BCE's dividend payout ratio to remain comfortably within our target policy range of 40 to 55%.
Speaker #3: Our free cash flow outlook also reflects stable to slightly lower cash taxes, largely unchanged working cap position, and essentially flat cash pension funding, as we continue to benefit from a full contribution holiday supported by the strong solvency position of our defined benefit pension plans.
Speaker #3: With this level of robust and predictable free cash flow generation, we expect BCE's dividend payout ratio to remain comfortably within our target policy range of 40% to 55%.
Speaker #3: Finally, we remain focused on driving strong free cash flow growth after payment of lease liabilities, supported by lower year-over-year capital lease repayments in approximately 15% CAGR '26, and consistent with the target we outlined at investor day through 2028.
Curtis Millen: Finally, we remain focused on driving strong free cash flow growth after payment of lease liabilities, supported by lower year-over-year capital lease repayments in 2026, and consistent with the approximately 15% CAGR target we outlined at Investor Day through 2028. Turning to slide 16. As we begin the year, we have CAD 2.5 billion of available liquidity and a pension solvency surplus of CAD 4.4 billion, providing meaningful financial flexibility as we execute our 2026 business plan. Our long-term debt maturity profile remains very manageable. In fact, CAD 750 million of 2026 MTN maturities were pre-financed and early redeemed in 2025, further reducing near-term refinancing risk. At the end of 2025, our net debt leverage ratio was approximately 3.8x Adjusted EBITDA, unchanged from prior year, despite the closing of the Ziply Fiber acquisition.
Curtis Millen: Finally, we remain focused on driving strong free cash flow growth after payment of lease liabilities, supported by lower year-over-year capital lease repayments in 2026, and consistent with the approximately 15% CAGR target we outlined at Investor Day through 2028. Turning to slide 16. As we begin the year, we have CAD 2.5 billion of available liquidity and a pension solvency surplus of CAD 4.4 billion, providing meaningful financial flexibility as we execute our 2026 business plan. Our long-term debt maturity profile remains very manageable. In fact, CAD 750 million of 2026 MTN maturities were pre-financed and early redeemed in 2025, further reducing near-term refinancing risk. At the end of 2025, our net debt leverage ratio was approximately 3.8x Adjusted EBITDA, unchanged from prior year, despite the closing of the Ziply Fiber acquisition.
Speaker #3: Turning to slide 16. As we begin the year, we have 2.5 billion dollars of available liquidity and a pension solvency surplus of 4.4 billion dollars, providing meaningful financial flexibility as we execute our 2026 business plan.
Speaker #3: Our long-term debt maturity profile remains very manageable. In fact, $750 million of '26 MTN maturities were pre-financed and early redeemed in 2025, further reducing near-term refinancing risk.
Speaker #3: At the end of 2025, our net debt leverage ratio was approximately 3.8 times adjusted EBITDA, unchanged from prior year, despite the closing of the Zipli fiber acquisition.
Speaker #3: On a pro forma basis, adjusted to include a full 12 months of Zipli fiber, our net debt leverage ratio would have been approximately 3.7 times.
Curtis Millen: On a pro forma basis, adjusted to include a full 12 months of Ziply Fiber, our net debt leverage ratio would have been approximately 3.7 times. It's also worth noting that nominal net debt at year-end was CAD 40.2 billion, slightly lower than the CAD 40.3 billion reported at the end of 2024, and notably prior to the closing of the Ziply Fiber acquisition, underscoring our continued focus on balance sheet discipline. Overall, we remain sharply focused on deleveraging, with our net debt leverage ratio expected to continue trending down in 2026 toward our target of 3.5 times by the end of 2027. To conclude on slide 17, our 2026 financial targets position BCE to deliver on the 2028 ambitions we set out at Investor Day. The guidance reflects clear progress from 2025 and remains fully aligned with our three-year financial framework.
Curtis Millen: On a pro forma basis, adjusted to include a full 12 months of Ziply Fiber, our net debt leverage ratio would have been approximately 3.7 times. It's also worth noting that nominal net debt at year-end was CAD 40.2 billion, slightly lower than the CAD 40.3 billion reported at the end of 2024, and notably prior to the closing of the Ziply Fiber acquisition, underscoring our continued focus on balance sheet discipline. Overall, we remain sharply focused on deleveraging, with our net debt leverage ratio expected to continue trending down in 2026 toward our target of 3.5 times by the end of 2027. To conclude on slide 17, our 2026 financial targets position BCE to deliver on the 2028 ambitions we set out at Investor Day. The guidance reflects clear progress from 2025 and remains fully aligned with our three-year financial framework.
Speaker #3: It's also worth noting that nominal net debt at year-end was $40.2 billion, slightly lower than the $40.3 billion reported at the end of '24, and notably prior to the closing of the Zipli fiber acquisition.
Speaker #3: Underscoring our continued focus on balance sheet discipline. Overall, we remain sharply focused on deleveraging, with our net debt leverage ratio expected to continue trending down in '26, toward our target of 3.5 times by the end of 2027.
Speaker #3: To conclude on slide 17. Our 2026 financial targets position BC to deliver on the 2028 ambitions we set out at investor day. The guidance reflects clear progress from 2025 and remains fully aligned with our three-year financial framework.
Speaker #3: We're guiding to higher revenue, higher adjusted EBITDA, improving capital intensity, strong free cash flow growth, and a sustainable dividend. Taken together, these targets reinforce our confidence in the strategy and in our ability to execute and deliver a sustainable financial horizon.
Curtis Millen: We're guiding higher revenue, higher Adjusted EBITDA, improving capital intensity, strong free cash flow growth, and a sustainable dividend. Taken together, these targets reinforce our confidence in the strategy and in our ability to execute and deliver sustainable financial performance over the three-year horizon. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Chris and the operator to begin the Q&A.
Curtis Millen: We're guiding higher revenue, higher Adjusted EBITDA, improving capital intensity, strong free cash flow growth, and a sustainable dividend. Taken together, these targets reinforce our confidence in the strategy and in our ability to execute and deliver sustainable financial performance over the three-year horizon. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Chris and the operator to begin the Q&A.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call back over to Chris and the performance over the three-year operator to begin the Q&A.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Curtis. Now, to keep the call as efficient as possible, I'd ask that all of you please limit yourselves to just one question and a brief follow-up so that we can get to as many in the queue as possible.
Mirko Bibic: Thank you, Curtis. Now, to keep the call as efficient as possible, I'd ask that all of you please limit yourselves to just one question and a brief follow-up so that we can get to as many in the queue as possible. And with that, Matthew, we're ready to take our first question.
Chris Summers: Thank you, Curtis. Now, to keep the call as efficient as possible, I'd ask that all of you please limit yourselves to just one question and a brief follow-up so that we can get to as many in the queue as possible. And with that, Matthew, we're ready to take our first question.
Speaker #2: And with that, Matthew, we're ready to take our first.
Speaker #2: question. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. If you are on the phone and wish to ask a question, please press star one. The first question comes from Tim Casey from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. If you are on the phone and wish to ask a question, please press star one. The first question comes from Tim Casey from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Could you talk a little bit about your guidance ranges? You know, 1 to 5 and 0 to 4, those obviously there's a few swing factors in there.
Tim Casey: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Could you talk a little bit about your guidance ranges, you know, 1 to 5 and 0 to 4? Those obviously, there's a few swing factors in there. Maybe just what's influencing you. Is it competitive intensity? Is it economic issues? Just maybe walk us through your thinking on the guidance ranges, if you could, please.
Tim Casey: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Could you talk a little bit about your guidance ranges, you know, 1 to 5 and 0 to 4? Those obviously, there's a few swing factors in there. Maybe just what's influencing you. Is it competitive intensity? Is it economic issues? Just maybe walk us through your thinking on the guidance ranges, if you could, please.
Speaker #4: Maybe just what's influencing intensity? Is it economic issues? Just maybe walk us through your thinking on the guidance ranges, if you could, please.
Speaker #5: Thanks. Thanks, Tim. Good morning. I'll start and then Curtis can layer on. The guidance we're giving you on—I think what you're seeing in that our growth segments continue to revenue and EBITDA—certainly is a reflection that we continue to need to manage the legacy declines as carefully as we possibly can.
Mirko Bibic: Thanks, thanks, Tim. Good morning. I'll start, and then Curtis can layer on. I think what you're seeing in the guidance we're giving you on revenue and EBITDA certainly is a reflection that our growth segments continue to grow as we signaled they would, and we continue to need to manage the legacy declines as carefully as we possibly can, and we transparently unpack that for everyone in October last year. So on the growth side, the proof points are the premium Bell loadings, the churn, the product intensity, the fiber nets. Of course, we want to continue to improve service revenues. And in there, you've got, you know, AI-powered solutions revenue, both in totality and then within the, and organically.
Mirko Bibic: Thanks, thanks, Tim. Good morning. I'll start, and then Curtis can layer on. I think what you're seeing in the guidance we're giving you on revenue and EBITDA certainly is a reflection that our growth segments continue to grow as we signaled they would, and we continue to need to manage the legacy declines as carefully as we possibly can, and we transparently unpack that for everyone in October last year. So on the growth side, the proof points are the premium Bell loadings, the churn, the product intensity, the fiber nets. Of course, we want to continue to improve service revenues. And in there, you've got, you know, AI-powered solutions revenue, both in totality and then within the, and organically.
Speaker #5: And we transparently unpack that for everyone in October last year. So on the growth side, the proof points are the premium belt loadings, the churn, the product intensity, the fiber nets.
Speaker #5: Of course, we want to continue to improve service revenues. And in there, you've got AI-powered solutions revenue, both in totality and organically. Continue to guide towards positive belt media revenue and EBITDA.
Mirko Bibic: Continue to guide towards positive Bell Media revenue and EBITDA. There's the US opportunity and, of course, free cash flow growth, which is pretty healthy while funding strategic initiatives. So that's on the growth side, and then the swings potentially are wireless penetration gains and overall market growth in wireless. Of course, the state of pricing in wireless and wireline both. I already talked about managing legacy, but you've got within that, you know, legacy advertising declines and legacy declines generally. The overall economic environment factors into our assessment on the range. And then the last two things I'll say is, while we've got good momentum in AI-powered solutions and in cost transformation, you know, are we able to further gain even better momentum in both of those?
Mirko Bibic: Continue to guide towards positive Bell Media revenue and EBITDA. There's the US opportunity and, of course, free cash flow growth, which is pretty healthy while funding strategic initiatives. So that's on the growth side, and then the swings potentially are wireless penetration gains and overall market growth in wireless. Of course, the state of pricing in wireless and wireline both. I already talked about managing legacy, but you've got within that, you know, legacy advertising declines and legacy declines generally. The overall economic environment factors into our assessment on the range. And then the last two things I'll say is, while we've got good momentum in AI-powered solutions and in cost transformation, you know, are we able to further gain even better momentum in both of those?
Speaker #5: There's the U.S. opportunity. And of course, free cash flow growth, which is pretty healthy, while funding strategic initiatives. So that's on the growth side.
Speaker #5: And then the swings, potentially, are wireless penetration gains and overall market growth in wireless. Of course, the state of pricing in wireless and wireline, both.
Speaker #5: I already talked about managing legacy, but you've got within that legacy advertising declines and legacy declines generally. The overall economic environment assessment on the range.
Speaker #5: And then the last two things I'll say is, while we've got good momentum in AI-powered solutions and in cost transformation, are we able to further gain even better momentum in both of those?
Speaker #5: And that could swing to the positive depending on—anything to add, Curtis?
Mirko Bibic: And that could swing to the positive, depending on the traction we continue to get. Anything to add, Curtis?
Mirko Bibic: And that could swing to the positive, depending on the traction we continue to get. Anything to add, Curtis?
Speaker #3: Yeah, I'd just the traction we continue to get add it's a detail. You know, we're not targeting to reach low end of the range.
Curtis Millen: Yeah, I'd just add, it's a detail. You know, we're not targeting to reach low end of the range. We're targeting higher than that, but it is appropriate to have a range, and I just know the spread of the range is consistent with the last couple of years. So again, we think this is the appropriate range and consistent with our past practice.
Curtis Millen: Yeah, I'd just add, it's a detail. You know, we're not targeting to reach low end of the range. We're targeting higher than that, but it is appropriate to have a range, and I just know the spread of the range is consistent with the last couple of years. So again, we think this is the appropriate range and consistent with our past practice.
Speaker #3: We're targeting higher than that. But it is appropriate to have a range. And I just note the spread of the range is consistent with the last couple of years.
Speaker #3: appropriate range and consistent with our So again, we think this is the past practice.
Tim Casey: Just as a follow-up, any comment on what we're seeing in the wireless pricing environment and what usually is a very tepid loading environment and promotion environment? It there seems to have been a little more activity than some of us would have expected in January. Just what are your reflections on what's going on in wireless so far in 2026?
Tim Casey: Just as a follow-up, any comment on what we're seeing in the wireless pricing environment and what usually is a very tepid loading environment and promotion environment? It there seems to have been a little more activity than some of us would have expected in January. Just what are your reflections on what's going on in wireless so far in 2026?
Speaker #4: what we're seeing in the wireless pricing Just as a follow-up, any comment on environment and what usually is a very tepid loading environment and promotion environment?
Speaker #4: There seems to have been a little more activity than some of us would have expected in January. Just what are your reflections on what's going on in wireless so far in
Speaker #4: '26? Yeah, thank you for the follow-up.
Mirko Bibic: Yeah, thank you for the follow-up, Tim. I'll start with, I'll start with something that does need to be to be said, particularly with with one of our key priorities being, being putting customers first. It's pretty clear that over the last, call it, you know, number of years, certainly three years or so, we see consumers getting tremendous value from the wireless services we offer. You got lowering, lowering prices, improved network service enhancements, feature enhancements, and, and basically the benefits of robust competition across the country. So that's important to say. Within that context, I think probably what I'll say, Tim, is that we're continuing at Bell to be disciplined, and that's a function of just sticking to our plan and being diligent in our execution.
Mirko Bibic: Yeah, thank you for the follow-up, Tim. I'll start with, I'll start with something that does need to be to be said, particularly with with one of our key priorities being, being putting customers first. It's pretty clear that over the last, call it, you know, number of years, certainly three years or so, we see consumers getting tremendous value from the wireless services we offer. You got lowering, lowering prices, improved network service enhancements, feature enhancements, and, and basically the benefits of robust competition across the country. So that's important to say. Within that context, I think probably what I'll say, Tim, is that we're continuing at Bell to be disciplined, and that's a function of just sticking to our plan and being diligent in our execution.
Speaker #5: Tim. I'll start be said, particularly with something that does need to with one of our key priorities being put in customers first. It's pretty clear that over the last, call it, number of years, certainly three years or so, we see consumers getting tremendous value from the wireless services.
Speaker #5: We offer you got lowering prices, enhancements, feature enhancements, and basically the benefits of robust competition across the country. So that's important to say. Within that context, I think probably what I'll say, Tim, is that improved network service we're continuing at Bell to be disciplined and that's a function of just sticking to our plan and being diligent in our execution.
Speaker #5: So for us, and this is not new, we're really focused on the Bell loadings because the market is shifting to tier one brand value proposition with 5G, with mobility internet and content.
Mirko Bibic: So for us, and this is not new, we're really focused on the Bell loadings because the market is shifting to tier one brand value proposition, you know, with 5G, with mobility, internet, and content. We're trying to improve the service revenue trajectory. We're really dialed in on base management. And, you know, if you go back to a year ago, we basically sat out ARPU dilutive loadings in January 2025, and yet we still delivered strong full year loadings. It just shows you that, you know, the discipline is working. And more recently, in the past month, January of this year, I think you saw some pretty aggressive promotions the past two weekends from some of our peers, and we decided to sit that out as well.
Mirko Bibic: So for us, and this is not new, we're really focused on the Bell loadings because the market is shifting to tier one brand value proposition, you know, with 5G, with mobility, internet, and content. We're trying to improve the service revenue trajectory. We're really dialed in on base management. And, you know, if you go back to a year ago, we basically sat out ARPU dilutive loadings in January 2025, and yet we still delivered strong full year loadings. It just shows you that, you know, the discipline is working. And more recently, in the past month, January of this year, I think you saw some pretty aggressive promotions the past two weekends from some of our peers, and we decided to sit that out as well.
Speaker #5: revenue trajectory. We're trying to improve the service in on base management. And if you go back to a year ago, we basically sat out our poo dilutive loadings in January of 2025, and yet we still delivered strong full year loadings.
Speaker #5: And it just shows you that the discipline is working. And more recently, in the past month, January of this year, I think you saw some promotions.
Speaker #5: Pretty aggressive from our peers, and we decided to sit that out as well because what we're trying to do is get profitable transactions, leveraging the premium tier. We're focused on strong channel execution, both in retail and online, and in the appropriate share of wireless nets call.
Mirko Bibic: Because what we're trying to do is get an appropriate share of wireless nets, profitable transactions, leveraging the premium tier. And, you know, we're focused on strong channel execution, both in retail and online, and in the call centers.
Mirko Bibic: Because what we're trying to do is get an appropriate share of wireless nets, profitable transactions, leveraging the premium tier. And, you know, we're focused on strong channel execution, both in retail and online, and in the call centers.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Tim Casey: Thank you.
Tim Casey: Thank you.
Speaker #3: you. Our next question is from Stephanie Price from CIBC World Markets. Please go centers.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Stephanie Price, from CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Stephanie Price, from CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Good morning. Thanks. In terms of my question, I was hoping you could walk through what's baked into the guide in terms of Zipli. How we should think about growth and margins in that business in '26 and maybe my follow-up is a bit on the U.S.
Stephanie Price: Good morning. Thanks. In terms of my question, I was hoping you could walk through what's baked into the guide in terms of Ziply, how we should think about growth and margins in that business in 2026. And maybe my follow-up is a bit on the US competitive environment, and if you're seeing any changes in the Ziply footprint here.
Stephanie Price: Good morning. Thanks. In terms of my question, I was hoping you could walk through what's baked into the guide in terms of Ziply, how we should think about growth and margins in that business in 2026. And maybe my follow-up is a bit on the US competitive environment, and if you're seeing any changes in the Ziply footprint here.
Speaker #6: competitive environment and if you're seeing any changes in the Zipli
Speaker #6: footprint here. Right.
Mirko Bibic: Right. So on Ziply, we're pleased. So 2025 ended exactly as we pretty much exactly as we telegraphed it would in at Investor Day for 2025. So that remains the case, and the performance does remain above our initial investment case when we announced the potential transaction back in November of 2024. So good on both of those fronts. In terms of the underlying fundamentals, Stephanie, demand for fiber, it's all about fiber, and the underlying fundamentals remain strong for fiber. Whether or not it's demand for fiber, customer preference, penetration gains, where we do have fiber and the long-term economics, all that remains very supportive and beats cable, you know, on pretty much all the metrics, speed, reliability, latency, product expansion, overall experience.
Mirko Bibic: Right. So on Ziply, we're pleased. So 2025 ended exactly as we pretty much exactly as we telegraphed it would in at Investor Day for 2025. So that remains the case, and the performance does remain above our initial investment case when we announced the potential transaction back in November of 2024. So good on both of those fronts. In terms of the underlying fundamentals, Stephanie, demand for fiber, it's all about fiber, and the underlying fundamentals remain strong for fiber. Whether or not it's demand for fiber, customer preference, penetration gains, where we do have fiber and the long-term economics, all that remains very supportive and beats cable, you know, on pretty much all the metrics, speed, reliability, latency, product expansion, overall experience.
Speaker #5: So on Zipli, we're pleased. So 2025 ended exactly as we pretty much exactly as we telegraphed it would—2025. So, in that investor day, for that remains the case.
Speaker #5: And the performance does remain above our initial investment case when we announced the potential transaction back in November of 2024. So good on both of those fronts.
Speaker #5: In terms of the underlying fundamentals, about fiber and the underlying fundamentals remain strong for fiber, whether or not it's demand for fiber, customer preference, penetration gains where we do have fiber, and the long-term economics—all that remains very supportive.
Speaker #5: And beats cable on reliability, latency product expansion, overall pretty much all the metric speed experience. And that dynamic hasn't changed either ground in the states where competitively on the Zipli is operating.
Mirko Bibic: That dynamic hasn't changed either competitively, on the ground, in the states where Ziply is operating.
Mirko Bibic: That dynamic hasn't changed either competitively, on the ground, in the states where Ziply is operating.
Speaker #6: Thank you. And then just in terms of you mentioned a significant ramp in H2 in terms of the rollout at Zipli. Just curious how you're thinking about CI and the pace of the fiber rollout in the U.S.
Stephanie Price: Thank you. And then just in terms of... you mentioned a significant ramp in H2 in terms of, the rollout at Ziply. Just curious how you're thinking about CI and the pace of the fiber rollout in the US business.
Stephanie Price: Thank you. And then just in terms of... you mentioned a significant ramp in H2 in terms of, the rollout at Ziply. Just curious how you're thinking about CI and the pace of the fiber rollout in the US business.
Speaker #6: business.
Speaker #5: Go ahead
Mirko Bibic: Go ahead on CI.
Mirko Bibic: Go ahead on CI.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks for the question, on CI. Stephanie. And look, I would say we do manage CapEx and capital intensity on a consolidated basis. So we are expecting capital intensity overall to drop, but fixed dollars remaining the same.
Curtis Millen: Yeah, thanks for the question, Stephanie. And look, I would say we do manage CapEx and capital intensity on a consolidated basis, so we are expecting capital intensity overall to drop, but fixed dollars remaining the same. You're not wrong, though. I would expect CapEx dollars spent in Canada probably go down year over year and with an increase in the US. But again, we're managing that on a consolidated basis and gives us the ability to reallocate TAC capital towards higher growth initiatives. So we're happy to have that flexibility and frankly, that strong an opportunity in front of us.
Curtis Millen: Yeah, thanks for the question, Stephanie. And look, I would say we do manage CapEx and capital intensity on a consolidated basis, so we are expecting capital intensity overall to drop, but fixed dollars remaining the same. You're not wrong, though. I would expect CapEx dollars spent in Canada probably go down year over year and with an increase in the US. But again, we're managing that on a consolidated basis and gives us the ability to reallocate TAC capital towards higher growth initiatives. So we're happy to have that flexibility and frankly, that strong an opportunity in front of us.
Speaker #3: You're not wrong, though. I would expect CapEx dollar spent in Canada probably go down year over year and with an increase in the U.S.
Speaker #3: But again, we're managing that on a consolidated basis and gives us the ability to reallocate capital towards we're happy to have that flexibility and
Speaker #6: Thank you very much.
Stephanie Price: Thank you very much.
Stephanie Price: Thank you very much.
Speaker #4: you. Our next question is from Jérôme
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Jerome Dubreuil from Desjardins Securities. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Jerome Dubreuil from Desjardins Securities. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Dubray from Desjardins Securities. Please go Thank
Speaker #4: ahead. Hey, good morning.
Jerome Dubreuil: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll just follow up a bit on Tim's questions there. But after seeing what has happened with the wireless landscape over the last few weekends, have you changed your expectations for 2026 or padded the downside a little bit better?
Jerome Dubreuil: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll just follow up a bit on Tim's questions there. But after seeing what has happened with the wireless landscape over the last few weekends, have you changed your expectations for 2026 or padded the downside a little bit better?
Speaker #5: Thanks for taking my questions. I'll just follow up a bit us. on Tim's questions there, but after seeing what has happened with the weekends, have you changed your expectations for 2026 or padded the wireless landscape over the last few better?
Speaker #5: So that's hi, Jérôme. That's built into the ranges on guidance about. If you focus on maybe if I take a narrower focus on the question and go straight to ARPU, for example.
Mirko Bibic: Hi, Jerome. That's built into the ranges on guidance that we've talked about. If you focus on maybe if I take a narrower focus on the question and go straight to ARPU, for example. So when we came out of Black Friday in November 2025, we thought it would be possible to show moderate ARPU growth by Q4 of 2026, and with the pricing we saw in December 2025, and what we've seen some of our peers do in January, it might be more difficult to get there.
Mirko Bibic: Hi, Jerome. That's built into the ranges on guidance that we've talked about. If you focus on maybe if I take a narrower focus on the question and go straight to ARPU, for example. So when we came out of Black Friday in November 2025, we thought it would be possible to show moderate ARPU growth by Q4 of 2026, and with the pricing we saw in December 2025, and what we've seen some of our peers do in January, it might be more difficult to get there.
Speaker #5: So when we came out of Black Friday in November of 2025, we thought it would be possible to show moderate ARPU growth by Q4 of 2026.
Speaker #5: And with the pricing we saw in December of 2025 and what we've seen some of our peers do in January, it might be more difficult to get there.
Speaker #5: But there's still 11 months left in the year. And I think broadly that we've talked speaking, I think there are signs that we can go back to the level of pricing we saw more of in October and November, particularly while delivering the tremendous value for consumers, which I talked about earlier when I was discussing with Tim.
Mirko Bibic: But there's still 11 months left in the year, and I think, broadly speaking, I think there are signs that we can go back to the level of pricing we saw more of in October, November, particularly while delivering the tremendous value for consumers, which I talked about earlier when I was discussing with Tim.
Mirko Bibic: But there's still 11 months left in the year, and I think, broadly speaking, I think there are signs that we can go back to the level of pricing we saw more of in October, November, particularly while delivering the tremendous value for consumers, which I talked about earlier when I was discussing with Tim.
Jerome Dubreuil: Thanks, thanks for this. That's helpful. In terms of the next step for, for AI fabric, I think the ROI opportunity there is, is pretty strong. Maybe if you can discuss the potential catalyst that you see down the road. Is there an inflection in demand? Are there announcements we should be expecting, maybe from, from the different, government levels?
Jerome Dubreuil: Thanks, thanks for this. That's helpful. In terms of the next step for, for AI fabric, I think the ROI opportunity there is, is pretty strong. Maybe if you can discuss the potential catalyst that you see down the road. Is there an inflection in demand? Are there announcements we should be expecting, maybe from, from the different, government levels?
Speaker #7: Thanks. Thanks for this. That's helpful. In terms of the next step fabric, I think the for AI ROI opportunity there is pretty strong. Maybe if you can discuss the potential catalyst that you see down the road or there, is there an inflection in demand?
Speaker #7: Are there announcements we should be expecting maybe from the different government levels?
Mirko Bibic: Yes, well, I take it. So on AI fabric, specifically, what we built in the 2026 plan and guidance is the monetization of a relatively small portion of the significant amount of overall capacity we currently have available to monetize over the coming years. And so that's based on our confidence to deliver those sites in year in 2026. So that's built into what you see today. We are in active discussions across multiple additional opportunities, and we've been sharing that consistently. And that's based on the pretty strong interest in sales funnel we have. There's a lot of demand for the capacity we do have, and so there are discussions that are ongoing.
Mirko Bibic: Yes, well, I take it. So on AI fabric, specifically, what we built in the 2026 plan and guidance is the monetization of a relatively small portion of the significant amount of overall capacity we currently have available to monetize over the coming years. And so that's based on our confidence to deliver those sites in year in 2026. So that's built into what you see today. We are in active discussions across multiple additional opportunities, and we've been sharing that consistently. And that's based on the pretty strong interest in sales funnel we have. There's a lot of demand for the capacity we do have, and so there are discussions that are ongoing.
Speaker #5: I'll take it. So, on AI fabric specifically—yes. So, the 2026 plan and guidance is the monetization of a relatively small portion of the significant amount of overall capacity we currently have available to monetize over the coming years.
Speaker #5: And so that's based on our confidence to deliver those sites in year in 2026. So that's built into what you see today. We are an active discussions across multiple additional opportunities.
Speaker #5: And we've been sharing that consistently. And that's based on the pretty strong interest and sales funnel we have. There's a lot of demand for the capacity we do have.
Speaker #5: And
Speaker #5: ongoing. Sorry.
Jerome Dubreuil: Great. Thank you.
Jerome Dubreuil: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #7: Thank
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Maher Yaghi, from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Maher Yaghi, from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Our next question is you. from Mayor Yagy from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Maher Yaghi: Great. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe I'll start with your assumptions on 2026 wireless subscriber growth for the industry, or maybe better, if you can give us some indications about what you expect you can achieve. You know, you talked about ARPU, and so, you know, when I think about the pricing picture, you, you know, Mirko, you mentioned that, you know, given what you saw in Q1 so far, and late in Q4, you might not show a return to positive ARPU growth. I don't think that's, you know, uh... I think the general market is in line with that view.
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe I'll start so there are discussions that are with your assumptions on 2026 wireless subscriber growth for the industry or maybe better if you can give us some indications about what you expect you can talked about ARPU.
Maher Yaghi: Great. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe I'll start with your assumptions on 2026 wireless subscriber growth for the industry, or maybe better, if you can give us some indications about what you expect you can achieve. You know, you talked about ARPU, and so, you know, when I think about the pricing picture, you, you know, Mirko, you mentioned that, you know, given what you saw in Q1 so far, and late in Q4, you might not show a return to positive ARPU growth. I don't think that's, you know, uh... I think the general market is in line with that view.
Speaker #5: achieve you so when I think picture, Mirko, you mentioned that about the pricing Q1 so far and late in Q4, you might not show a return to positive given what you saw in ARPU growth.
Speaker #5: I don't think that's I think the general market is in line with that view. But do you believe the first couple of big discounts we saw this quarter in the last week, two weekends, have hurt you in any way in terms of achieving your goals and subscriber loading for Q1?
Maher Yaghi: But, do you believe the first couple of big discounts we saw this quarter in the last week, two weekends, have hurt you in any way in terms of achieving your goals and subscriber loading for Q1? I'll start with that question, and I'll have another question on conversions after.
Maher Yaghi: But, do you believe the first couple of big discounts we saw this quarter in the last week, two weekends, have hurt you in any way in terms of achieving your goals and subscriber loading for Q1? I'll start with that question, and I'll have another question on conversions after.
Speaker #5: I'll start with that question. And I'll have another question on conversions after. Okay. So there's thank you, Mayor. There's kind of a few elements in that.
Mirko Bibic: Okay, so there's— Thank you, Maher. There's kind of a few elements in that. So let me start with market growth generally. Our view of wireless market growth, like, to keep it short, is broadly consistent with what you heard last week from one of our competitors. So we also continue to see market growing at a low single-digit rate, and that just reflects a more mature market, lower overall volume growth, and increases in penetration. So that's on that part. In terms of how we're going to operate, it's...
Mirko Bibic: Okay, so there's— Thank you, Maher. There's kind of a few elements in that. So let me start with market growth generally. Our view of wireless market growth, like, to keep it short, is broadly consistent with what you heard last week from one of our competitors. So we also continue to see market growing at a low single-digit rate, and that just reflects a more mature market, lower overall volume growth, and increases in penetration. So that's on that part. In terms of how we're going to operate, it's...
Speaker #5: So let me start with market growth generally. Our view of wireless market growth, to keep it short, is broadly consistent with what you heard last week from one of our competitors.
Speaker #5: So we also continue to see market growing at a little single-digit rate. And that just reflects a more overall volume growth and increases in penetration.
Speaker #5: So that's on that part. In terms of how we're going to operate, it's I mean, I don't want to repeat too much of what I said at the beginning in response to the first question, but what we saw in January of this year, particularly the last two weekends, doesn't change the delivery our execution against our goals because we are going to stick to our plan.
Mirko Bibic: I mean, I don't want to repeat too much of what I, what I said at the beginning in, in response to the first question, but what we saw in January of this year, particularly the last two weekends, doesn't change the delivery, our execution against our goals, because we are going to stick to our plan. We are going to be disciplined. It's all about having a strategy and then executing against that, and not deviating because of, you know, one or two weekends. So our approach remains Bell loadings, accretive loadings, sitting out ARPU dilutive loadings, product intensity. So we're gonna continue to execute against that, where, you know, we're, we're doing reasonably well. What we want to get is our appropriate share of market loadings.
Mirko Bibic: I mean, I don't want to repeat too much of what I, what I said at the beginning in, in response to the first question, but what we saw in January of this year, particularly the last two weekends, doesn't change the delivery, our execution against our goals, because we are going to stick to our plan. We are going to be disciplined. It's all about having a strategy and then executing against that, and not deviating because of, you know, one or two weekends. So our approach remains Bell loadings, accretive loadings, sitting out ARPU dilutive loadings, product intensity. So we're gonna continue to execute against that, where, you know, we're, we're doing reasonably well. What we want to get is our appropriate share of market loadings.
Speaker #5: We are going to be disciplined. It's all about having a strategy, and then executing against that and not deviating because of one or two weekends.
Speaker #5: So our approach remains bell loadings, out ARPU dilutive loadings, product intensity. So we're going to continue to execute accretive loadings, sitting against that well at what we want to get is our where we're doing reasonably appropriate share of market loadings.
Speaker #5: And on ARPU, growth, which was kind of the third element you outlined in your question, I guess I'll end here where I ended on the previous question to when I was discussing with Jérôme.
Mirko Bibic: On ARPU growth, which was kind of the third element you outlined in your question, I guess I'll end here where I ended on the previous question when I was discussing with Jerome. There are still 11 months left in the year, so, you know, there's lots of opportunity here to deliver on what we all thought we'd be able to deliver, particularly by the end of this year.
Mirko Bibic: On ARPU growth, which was kind of the third element you outlined in your question, I guess I'll end here where I ended on the previous question when I was discussing with Jerome. There are still 11 months left in the year, so, you know, there's lots of opportunity here to deliver on what we all thought we'd be able to deliver, particularly by the end of this year.
Speaker #5: There are still 11 months left in the year. So there's lots of opportunity here to deliver on what we all thought we'd be able to deliver, particularly by the end of this year.
Speaker #4: Okay. That's fair. Thank you for that. So my second question I'll follow up is on convergence. Wireless wireline bundles is not something new, of course, but in a more competitive market, I look at your fiber footprint, the largest in Canada by far.
Maher Yaghi: Okay, that's fair. Thank you for that. So my, my question, my second question, I'll follow up, is on convergence. You know, wireless wireline bundles is not something new, of course, but in a more competitive market, I look at your fiber footprint, the largest in Canada by far, and compare that with some of your US peers, which are trying to catch up and have made convergence their number one priority, I would say. How much upside do you believe BCE can achieve from, you know, leaning on your fiber footprint, to increase your wireless market share? And could you share with us, what percent of your wireline footprint base-
Maher Yaghi: Okay, that's fair. Thank you for that. So my, my question, my second question, I'll follow up, is on convergence. You know, wireless wireline bundles is not something new, of course, but in a more competitive market, I look at your fiber footprint, the largest in Canada by far, and compare that with some of your US peers, which are trying to catch up and have made convergence their number one priority, I would say. How much upside do you believe BCE can achieve from, you know, leaning on your fiber footprint, to increase your wireless market share? And could you share with us, what percent of your wireline footprint base-
Speaker #4: And compare that with some of your US peers, which are trying to catch up and have made conversions their number one priority, I would say.
Speaker #4: believe BCE can How much upside do you achieve from leaning on your fiber footprint to increase your wireless market share? And could you share with us what percent of your wireline footprint base is also a wireless customer of BCE just to have some kind of a reference compared to what we hear from your US peers?
Curtis Millen: ... is also a wireless customer of BCE, just to have a, you know, some kind of a reference compared to what we hear from your US peers. Thank you.
Maher Yaghi: ... is also a wireless customer of BCE, just to have a, you know, some kind of a reference compared to what we hear from your US peers. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Mirko Bibic: So I think, I don't have it at my fingertips, Mary, but I think at Investor Day, we did outline our goals on product intensity in terms of percentages. 25% product intensity increase between now and 2028. So, you know, we are trying to-- that answers your question is, do we think there's upside? 100%, we think there's upside, and we gave the upside target over the three-year timeframe, and that's largely on the back of an expansive fiber footprint, coupled with the best premium content in the business in Crave and continued leadership in wireless. So I know I'm giving you, I'm giving you more of a general strategic question, a point of view. So that's the strategy. The strategy is born from a belief in tremendous upside.
Mirko Bibic: So I think, I don't have it at my fingertips, Mary, but I think at Investor Day, we did outline our goals on product intensity in terms of percentages. 25% product intensity increase between now and 2028. So, you know, we are trying to-- that answers your question is, do we think there's upside? 100%, we think there's upside, and we gave the upside target over the three-year timeframe, and that's largely on the back of an expansive fiber footprint, coupled with the best premium content in the business in Crave and continued leadership in wireless. So I know I'm giving you, I'm giving you more of a general strategic question, a point of view. So that's the strategy. The strategy is born from a belief in tremendous upside.
Speaker #5: fingertips, Mayor, but I think an investor day we did So I think I don't have it at my outline our goals on product intensity in terms of percentages.
Speaker #5: 25% product intensity increase between now and 2028. So we are trying to that answers your question as do we think there's upside? 100% we think there's upside.
Speaker #5: And we gave the upside target over the three-year timeframe. And that's largely on the back of an expansive fiber footprint coupled with the best premium content in the business in Crave and continued leadership in wireless.
Speaker #5: I'm giving you So I know more of a general strategic question point of view. strategy is born from a belief So that's the strategy.
Speaker #5: in tremendous upside. The upside The is going to come through disciplined execution. And in terms of the specific stats you're asking for, I don't think we'll give that here on the call.
Mirko Bibic: The upside is gonna come through disciplined execution, and in terms of the specific stats you're asking for, I don't think we'll give that here on the call. Trying to be helpful-
Mirko Bibic: The upside is gonna come through disciplined execution, and in terms of the specific stats you're asking for, I don't think we'll give that here on the call. Trying to be helpful-
Speaker #5: Trying to be helpful.
Curtis Millen: Thank you.
Maher Yaghi: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank
Mirko Bibic: And, Mary. Okay.
Mirko Bibic: And, Mary. Okay.
Speaker #5: Okay. you, Mayor.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Our next question is from Sebastiano Petty from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Sebastiano Petti, from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Sebastiano Petti, from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Sebastiano Petti: Hi, thank you for taking the question. I guess just following up on Stephanie's, you know, question, sort of related to perhaps the US environment. You know, what you've seen here in the US, I guess, is the scaled fiber operators seem a bit more focused on driving penetration this year, you know, and largely have messaged that, you know, ARPU growth might be a little bit muted. I mean, and then the cable operators, Comcast, Charter, who you compete with in the vast majority of your Ziply footprint, have largely messaged as well that, you know, ARPUs, or price increases, will not necessarily be passed through here as they try to focus on, you know, churn reduction, gross addition, improvement.
Sebastiano Petti: Hi, thank you for taking the question. I guess just following up on Stephanie's, you know, question, sort of related to perhaps the US environment. You know, what you've seen here in the US, I guess, is the scaled fiber operators seem a bit more focused on driving penetration this year, you know, and largely have messaged that, you know, ARPU growth might be a little bit muted. I mean, and then the cable operators, Comcast, Charter, who you compete with in the vast majority of your Ziply footprint, have largely messaged as well that, you know, ARPUs, or price increases, will not necessarily be passed through here as they try to focus on, you know, churn reduction, gross addition, improvement.
Speaker #6: question. I guess just following up on Stephanie's question, just related to perhaps the US Hi. environment. What you've seen here in the US, I Thank you for taking the guess, is scaled fiber operators seem a bit more focused on driving penetration.
Speaker #6: This year, and largely have messaged that ARPU growth might be a little bit muted. I mean, and then the cable operators Comcast, Charter, who you compete with, the vast majority of your Zipley footprint, have largely messaged as well that ARPU's or price increases will not necessarily be passed through here as they try to focus on churn reduction, gross addition, improvement.
Sebastiano Petti: While still early, and I think, you know, you just kind of hit on it, Mirko, in your answer to Mary's question there, that I presume a lot of the growth is volume-based, but, you know, boots on the ground, blocking and tackling. Has anything changed in the strategy or Harold and the team's strategy in the US, kind of given the competitive environment? That's my first question, and then I'll just toss out my second one here as well. On slide five, you do talk about, you know, continued non-core asset sales as you optimize the balance sheet. Any update on, you know, current work streams or, you know, what we might be able to, perhaps expect in 2026? Thank you.
Speaker #6: While still early, and I think you just kind of hit on it, Mirko, in your answer, Mayor's question there that I presume a lot of the growth is volume-based.
Sebastiano Petti: While still early, and I think, you know, you just kind of hit on it, Mirko, in your answer to Mary's question there, that I presume a lot of the growth is volume-based, but, you know, boots on the ground, blocking and tackling. Has anything changed in the strategy or Harold and the team's strategy in the US, kind of given the competitive environment? That's my first question, and then I'll just toss out my second one here as well. On slide five, you do talk about, you know, continued non-core asset sales as you optimize the balance sheet. Any update on, you know, current work streams or, you know, what we might be able to, perhaps expect in 2026? Thank you.
Speaker #6: But boots on the ground blocking and tackling. Is there anything changed in the strategy or Harold and the team's strategy in the US kind of given the competitive environment?
Speaker #6: That's my first question. And then I'll just toss out my second one here as well. On slide 5, you do talk about continued non-core asset sales as you optimize the balance sheet.
Speaker #6: Any update on current to perhaps expect in 2026? Thank
Speaker #6: you.
Speaker #5: So on the Zipley part of the question, Sebastiano, so nothing has changed in terms of the strategy and the execution in the Zipley markets where we have fiber.
Mirko Bibic: So on the Ziply part of the question, Sebastiano, so nothing has changed in terms of the strategy and the execution in the Ziply markets where we have fiber. We're continuing to see the penetration ramp exactly as we had expected and as Ziply had been performing prior to our acquisition. So all that remains quite solid. On pricing, it's interesting, Ziply has typically not been the highest priced broadband provider in the markets it operates. So there's a price gap between Ziply and cable, where Ziply's pricing has tended to be below that of cable.
Mirko Bibic: So on the Ziply part of the question, Sebastiano, so nothing has changed in terms of the strategy and the execution in the Ziply markets where we have fiber. We're continuing to see the penetration ramp exactly as we had expected and as Ziply had been performing prior to our acquisition. So all that remains quite solid. On pricing, it's interesting, Ziply has typically not been the highest priced broadband provider in the markets it operates. So there's a price gap between Ziply and cable, where Ziply's pricing has tended to be below that of cable.
Speaker #5: We're continuing to see the penetration ramp exactly as we had expected. And as Zipley had been performing prior to our acquisition. So all that remains quite solid.
Speaker #5: On pricing, it's interesting. Zipley has typically priced as a broadband provider in the markets it operates. So, Zipley and cable, where Zipley's pricing has tended to be below that of cable.
Speaker #5: And what you're seeing just maybe more the Zipley questions broad kind of take on is what you're seeing in what we're signaling is the there's a deliberate reset here on our part, quite strategically.
Mirko Bibic: What you're seeing, just a maybe more broad kind of take on the Ziply questions, is what you're seeing and, you know, what we're signaling is the-- there's a deliberate reset here on our part, quite strategically. Prior to closing, Ziply's build plan was largely focused on upgrading its existing copper footprint within its existing ILEC territory. As we said consistently, as we were leading up to closing of the transaction and since, is that our long-term plan, together with the Ziply management team, is to go broader now. Now we have PSP and the Network FiberCo project, and that-- and the plan there is to build both within and beyond the ILEC footprint. We're gonna do that in a sequential and capital disciplined way.
Mirko Bibic: What you're seeing, just a maybe more broad kind of take on the Ziply questions, is what you're seeing and, you know, what we're signaling is the-- there's a deliberate reset here on our part, quite strategically. Prior to closing, Ziply's build plan was largely focused on upgrading its existing copper footprint within its existing ILEC territory. As we said consistently, as we were leading up to closing of the transaction and since, is that our long-term plan, together with the Ziply management team, is to go broader now. Now we have PSP and the Network FiberCo project, and that-- and the plan there is to build both within and beyond the ILEC footprint. We're gonna do that in a sequential and capital disciplined way.
Speaker #5: Prior to closing, Zipley's build plan was largely focused on upgrading its existing copper footprint within its existing ILEC territory. And as we said consistently, as we were leading up to closing of the transaction and since, our long-term plan, together with the Zipley management team, is to go broader now.
Speaker #5: And now we have PSP and the network fiber co project. And the plan there is to build both within and beyond the ILEC footprint.
Speaker #5: And we're going to do that in a sequential and capital disciplined way. So we plan to do the build now not only within the four core states, not only within the ILEC footprint in those four core states, but outside both the ILEC footprint and the four core states.
Mirko Bibic: So we plan to do the build now, not only within the four core states, not only within the ILEC footprint in those four core states, but outside both the ILEC footprint and the four core states. So if you, if you kind of take that as the strategy, what happened is once we closed the acquisition, we took a bit of a step back and to reassess what had been the build plan, so that we could tackle the wider geographic slate.
Mirko Bibic: So we plan to do the build now, not only within the four core states, not only within the ILEC footprint in those four core states, but outside both the ILEC footprint and the four core states. So if you, if you kind of take that as the strategy, what happened is once we closed the acquisition, we took a bit of a step back and to reassess what had been the build plan, so that we could tackle the wider geographic slate.
Speaker #5: So if you kind of take that as the strategy, what happened is, once we closed the acquisition, we took a bit of a step back to reassess what had been the build plan so that we could tackle the wider geographic slate.
Speaker #5: And as we redesigned the plan, what you're going to see is a little bit of a near-term slowdown in terms of the actual passings but a ramp as we get to the back half of this year and into 2027 and beyond so that not only can we hit our 3 million locations pass target, but do it in the markets that we think are the most attractive and then
Mirko Bibic: As we redesigned the plan, what you're gonna see is a little bit of a near-term slowdown in terms of the actual passings, but a ramp as we get to the back half of this year and into 2027 and beyond, so that not only can we hit our 3 million locations pass target, but do it in the markets that we think are the most attractive. And then the second question was?
Mirko Bibic: As we redesigned the plan, what you're gonna see is a little bit of a near-term slowdown in terms of the actual passings, but a ramp as we get to the back half of this year and into 2027 and beyond, so that not only can we hit our 3 million locations pass target, but do it in the markets that we think are the most attractive. And then the second question was?
Speaker #5: the second question was. Yeah,
Curtis Millen: Yeah, Sebastiano, to get to your second question in and around asset sales. So I'd say, you know, consistent with, with our previous messaging, throughout the year at Investor Day, you know, we are focused on maintaining our discipline around capital allocation. One of our priorities is strengthening the balance sheet. You saw net debt slightly, but decreased even with the acquisition of Ziply. So we are, we will continue to be focused. We are on track to reach our 3.5x net leverage target by 2027. And as we talked about previously, asset sales will play a role. We do have, files underway, and, as we reach agreements, we'll, we'll provide more transparency to the market.
Curtis Millen: Yeah, Sebastiano, to get to your second question in and around asset sales. So I'd say, you know, consistent with, with our previous messaging, throughout the year at Investor Day, you know, we are focused on maintaining our discipline around capital allocation. One of our priorities is strengthening the balance sheet. You saw net debt slightly, but decreased even with the acquisition of Ziply. So we are, we will continue to be focused. We are on track to reach our 3.5x net leverage target by 2027. And as we talked about previously, asset sales will play a role. We do have, files underway, and, as we reach agreements, we'll, we'll provide more transparency to the market.
Speaker #4: question in around asset sales. So Sebastiano, to get to your second with our previous I'd say consistent messaging throughout the year at investor day, we are focused on maintaining our discipline around capital allocation.
Speaker #4: One of our priorities is strengthening the balance sheet. You saw net debt slightly, but decreased even with the acquisition of Zipley so we are continued we will continue to be focused.
Speaker #4: track to reach our three and a half times net We are on leverage target by 2027. And as we talked about previously, asset sales will play a role.
Speaker #4: We're underway, and as we reach agreements, we'll provide more transparency to the
Speaker #4: market. Thank you
Sebastiano Petti: Thank you both.
Sebastiano Petti: Thank you both.
Speaker #5: both.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Our next question is from Vince Valentini from TD Securities. Please go
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Vince Valentini, from TD Securities. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Vince Valentini, from TD Securities. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: ahead.
Speaker #7: Yeah, thanks very
Vince Valentini: ... Yeah, thanks very much. First, maybe just clarification. Are we going to get enterprise segment revenue starting to get disclosed discretely in Q1? I thought there was some indication in Investor Day you'd improve enhanced disclosure. And second, more of a question. Employee purchase plans within the wireless segment. I know you've been saying for the last couple of quarters, the vast majority of your postpaid net adds are on the Bell brand, but the Bell brand includes these EPP plans, which sometimes are CAD 35 or 40 dollars for big buckets of data, including, you know, roaming in other countries, as well. Can you give us any sense; is that a satisfactory level of your low-end, Mirko? Do you think that's getting a bit out of control?
Vince Valentini: ... Yeah, thanks very much. First, maybe just clarification. Are we going to get enterprise segment revenue starting to get disclosed discretely in Q1? I thought there was some indication in Investor Day you'd improve enhanced disclosure. And second, more of a question. Employee purchase plans within the wireless segment. I know you've been saying for the last couple of quarters, the vast majority of your postpaid net adds are on the Bell brand, but the Bell brand includes these EPP plans, which sometimes are CAD 35 or 40 dollars for big buckets of data, including, you know, roaming in other countries, as well. Can you give us any sense; is that a satisfactory level of your low-end, Mirko? Do you think that's getting a bit out of control?
Speaker #7: much. First, maybe just clarification. Are we going to get enterprise segment revenue starting to get disclosed discreetly in the first quarter? I thought there were some indication at investor day you'd improve enhanced disclosure.
Speaker #7: And second, more of a question. Employee purchase plans within the wireless segment. I know postpaid net ads are on the Bell brand, but the Bell brand includes these EPP plants, which sometimes are 35 or 40 dollars for big buckets of data, including roaming in other countries as well.
Speaker #7: Can you give us any sense? Is that a satisfactory level of your loading, Mirko? Do you think that's getting a bit out of control?
Speaker #7: And do you have good eyeballs and gates on making sure your in-store reps authenticate people to make sure they qualify for these EPP versus just giving it to anybody?
Vince Valentini: Do you have, you know, good eyeballs and controls and gates on making sure your in-store reps authenticate people to make sure they qualify for these EPP versus just giving it to anybody?
Vince Valentini: Do you have, you know, good eyeballs and controls and gates on making sure your in-store reps authenticate people to make sure they qualify for these EPP versus just giving it to anybody?
Speaker #5: Thanks for the question, Vince. I'll do the second and encourage us you can answer the EPPs, they first. Look, on are there's an EPP segment in the marketplace.
Mirko Bibic: Thanks for the question, Vince. I'll do, I'll do the second, and Curtis, you can, you can answer the first. Look, on EPPs, they are, you know, they, they are - there's an EPP segment in the marketplace. We have traditionally, frankly, been gapped in EPP sales, both in terms of, in the past, functionality and, and, as well as, kind of a desire... By, by design, we've been gapped. We've, over time, fixed some of the product feature and, and, and execution gaps on EPPs, but our view hasn't changed on the strategy, which is, we'll, we'll play where we need to, but we believe we are, fundamentally disciplined, executing against all core segments.
Mirko Bibic: Thanks for the question, Vince. I'll do, I'll do the second, and Curtis, you can, you can answer the first. Look, on EPPs, they are, you know, they, they are - there's an EPP segment in the marketplace. We have traditionally, frankly, been gapped in EPP sales, both in terms of, in the past, functionality and, and, as well as, kind of a desire... By, by design, we've been gapped. We've, over time, fixed some of the product feature and, and, and execution gaps on EPPs, but our view hasn't changed on the strategy, which is, we'll, we'll play where we need to, but we believe we are, fundamentally disciplined, executing against all core segments.
Speaker #5: We have traditionally, frankly, been gapped in EPP sales. Both in terms of in the past functionality and as well as kind of a desire.
Speaker #5: By design, we've been over time fixed some of the product feature gapped. and execution gaps on We've EPPs, but our view hasn't changed on the strategy, which is we'll play where we need to, but we believe we are fundamentally disciplined executing against all core segments.
Mirko Bibic: Again, the focus is disciplined execution on the most accretive loadings while remaining competitive as appropriate in each, in each segment, and that's what we're going to continue to do, Vince. We, and again, you just -- EPP is one part of it, but you see some of the above the line, aggressive pricing that some of our peers have put in market the last two weekends. And we sat out, we did the same thing last year in January 2025, and ultimately, when you look at the full year performance in 2025, we, we took our appropriate share of, of net adds, and that's because we focused on executing against, you know, on-- at the right times throughout the year. And that's the thing, that's what we're going to continue to do.
Speaker #5: Again, the focus is disciplined execution on the most accretive loadings, while remaining competitive as appropriate in each segment. And that's what we're going to continue to do, Vince.
Mirko Bibic: Again, the focus is disciplined execution on the most accretive loadings while remaining competitive as appropriate in each, in each segment, and that's what we're going to continue to do, Vince. We, and again, you just -- EPP is one part of it, but you see some of the above the line, aggressive pricing that some of our peers have put in market the last two weekends. And we sat out, we did the same thing last year in January 2025, and ultimately, when you look at the full year performance in 2025, we, we took our appropriate share of, of net adds, and that's because we focused on executing against, you know, on-- at the right times throughout the year. And that's the thing, that's what we're going to continue to do.
Speaker #5: We, and again, EPP is just one part of it, but you see some of the above-the-line aggressive pricing that some of our peers have put in market the last two weekends.
Speaker #5: And we sat out. We did the same thing last year in January 2025 and ultimately when you look at the full year performance in share of net ads and that's because we focused on executing against at the right times throughout the year.
Speaker #5: And that's what we're going to continue to do.
Speaker #4: And Vince, just on your first question, the answer is yes. So starting Q1, we'll provide more detail in around the enterprise
Curtis Millen: Vince, just on your first question, the answer is yes. So starting Q1, we'll provide more detail in and around the other enterprise segment.
Curtis Millen: Vince, just on your first question, the answer is yes. So starting Q1, we'll provide more detail in and around the other enterprise segment.
Speaker #4: segment. Thank you.
Speaker #7: Excellent. Thank
Vince Valentini: Excellent. Thank you.
Vince Valentini: Excellent. Thank you.
Speaker #7: you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Batya Levy, from UBS. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Batya Levy, from UBS. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Our next question is from Bhatia Levy from UBS. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: ahead.
Speaker #8: Great. Thank
Batya Levy: Great, thank you. A couple follow-ups. First, on the US, is it possible to size the build plan for this year? And what are some other opportunities you're seeing to accelerate the fiber plan in the US, maybe some tuck-ins? And convergence also a theme, and, are you-- do you see adding an MVNO important to inflect your subscriber growth in the US? And a quick follow-up on Canada. Can you talk about the TPI- TPIA activity in broadband?
Batya Levi: Great, thank you. A couple follow-ups. First, on the US, is it possible to size the build plan for this year? And what are some other opportunities you're seeing to accelerate the fiber plan in the US, maybe some tuck-ins? And convergence also a theme, and, are you-- do you see adding an MVNO important to inflect your subscriber growth in the US? And a quick follow-up on Canada. Can you talk about the TPI- TPIA activity in broadband?
Speaker #8: you. A couple of follow-ups. First, on the the build plan for this year? US, is it possible to size And what are some other opportunities you're seeing to accelerate the fiber plan in the US?
Speaker #8: Maybe some tuck-ins? And convergence also a theme. Do you see adding an MVNO as important to inflect your subscriber growth in the US?
Speaker #8: And a quick follow-up on Canada. Can you talk about the TPIA activity in
Speaker #8: broadband? Okay.
Mirko Bibic: Okay, thank you, Batya. So on M&A opportunities, I'm going to give you a general answer on M&A opportunities, and this applies to the US or Canada. We'll always take a look at opportunities to drive shareholder value. Importantly, though, any one of those would have to fit within our capital markets goals and deleveraging targets. So, I'll leave it at that on M&A in the US or otherwise. In terms of convergence, and we at this moment in time, you know, a converged offering in the US is not required by Ziply in order to drive the penetration gains where we have fiber.
Mirko Bibic: Okay, thank you, Batya. So on M&A opportunities, I'm going to give you a general answer on M&A opportunities, and this applies to the US or Canada. We'll always take a look at opportunities to drive shareholder value. Importantly, though, any one of those would have to fit within our capital markets goals and deleveraging targets. So, I'll leave it at that on M&A in the US or otherwise. In terms of convergence, and we at this moment in time, you know, a converged offering in the US is not required by Ziply in order to drive the penetration gains where we have fiber.
Speaker #7: Thank you, Bhatia. So on M&A opportunities, and I'm going to give you a general answer on M&A opportunities and this applies to the US or Canada.
Speaker #7: We'll always take a look at opportunities to drive shareholder value importantly, though, any one of those would have to fit within our capital markets goals and deleveraging targets.
Speaker #7: So I'll leave it at that on M&A in the US or otherwise. In terms of convergence, and we at this moment in time, a converged offering in the US is not required by Zipley in order to drive the penetration gains.
Speaker #7: Where we have fiber and but we recognize that there may be a point in time that we'll want to do that and we have a number of options available to us that we are looking at.
Mirko Bibic: But we recognize that there may be a point in time that we'll want to do that, and we have a number of options available to us that we are looking at. So, stay tuned for more on that over time. In the TPIA... Oh, TPIA, yeah, of course, TPIA. Not in terms of our... What we want to do, fundamentally, here's what we want to do. We want to, again, in our approach, to put customers first, we really do want to provide in the West, to Western consumers, an additional fiber option, particularly for those customers who want to buy more than one product from us. That remains our goal.
Mirko Bibic: But we recognize that there may be a point in time that we'll want to do that, and we have a number of options available to us that we are looking at. So, stay tuned for more on that over time. In the TPIA... Oh, TPIA, yeah, of course, TPIA. Not in terms of our... What we want to do, fundamentally, here's what we want to do. We want to, again, in our approach, to put customers first, we really do want to provide in the West, to Western consumers, an additional fiber option, particularly for those customers who want to buy more than one product from us. That remains our goal.
Speaker #7: for more on that So stay tuned over time. In the TPIA oh, TPIA, yeah. Of course, TPIA. Not in terms of our what we want to do fundamentally, here's what we want to do.
Speaker #7: We want to, again, in our approach to put customers first, we really do want to provide in the West to Western consumers an additional fiber option, particularly for those customers who want to buy more than one goal.
Speaker #7: Not much has happened with respect to execution from us; that remains our product against that goal, and that's because we're having difficulty getting an appropriate level of service from the fiber operator out West.
Mirko Bibic: Not much has happened with respect to execution against that goal, and that's because we're having difficulty getting an appropriate level of service from the fiber operator out West. I mean, not to get into too much gory detail on this, I mean, some of the service windows or install windows are, frankly, weeks long, significantly longer than what we provide to resellers on our fiber network in the East. And that's untenable, particularly when we think that consumers out West are deserving or as deserving as competition as consumers everywhere else. You know, ARPUs are higher for internet in the West than they are in the East, so you could easily argue that consumers in the West are perhaps even more deserving of more competition.
Mirko Bibic: Not much has happened with respect to execution against that goal, and that's because we're having difficulty getting an appropriate level of service from the fiber operator out West. I mean, not to get into too much gory detail on this, I mean, some of the service windows or install windows are, frankly, weeks long, significantly longer than what we provide to resellers on our fiber network in the East. And that's untenable, particularly when we think that consumers out West are deserving or as deserving as competition as consumers everywhere else. You know, ARPUs are higher for internet in the West than they are in the East, so you could easily argue that consumers in the West are perhaps even more deserving of more competition.
Speaker #7: And I mean, not to get into too much gory detail on this, I mean, some of the service windows or install windows are, frankly, weeks long, significantly longer than what we provide to resellers on our fiber network in the East.
Speaker #7: And that's untenable, particularly when we think that deserving as competition, as consumers everywhere else. Our pools are higher for internet in the West than they are in the East.
Speaker #7: So you could easily argue that consumers in the West are perhaps even more deserving of more competition. So what we're looking for is just an appropriate level of service from the underlying network owner out West.
Mirko Bibic: So what we're looking for is just an appropriate level of service from the underlying network owner out west. And once we—that's delivered to us, we'll be able to execute against what we said in Investor Day.
Mirko Bibic: So what we're looking for is just an appropriate level of service from the underlying network owner out west. And once we—that's delivered to us, we'll be able to execute against what we said in Investor Day.
Speaker #7: And once we that's delivered to us, we'll be able to execute against what we said an investor
Speaker #7: day.
Batya Levy: ... are you seeing higher reseller activity in your region?
Batya Levi: ... are you seeing higher reseller activity in your region?
Speaker #8: reseller activity in your
Speaker #8: region? That's traditionally been
Mirko Bibic: That's traditionally been the case. There's always been more resale for years and years and years in the East than in the West, and that's because the regulatory rules were actually always, for some reason, asymmetrical until recently, where there was no fiber mandate in the West, but there was a fiber resale mandate in the East. It's a bit inexplicable, but it's what it is. Those rules have changed now, so that there's a fiber resale mandate across the country, but we just need appropriate service delivery so that we can deliver an experience to customers out west that they would expect of us and that we want to deliver. Because, again, all this. Put all of this aside, what matters the most is the experience that we deliver to customers.
Mirko Bibic: That's traditionally been the case. There's always been more resale for years and years and years in the East than in the West, and that's because the regulatory rules were actually always, for some reason, asymmetrical until recently, where there was no fiber mandate in the West, but there was a fiber resale mandate in the East. It's a bit inexplicable, but it's what it is. Those rules have changed now, so that there's a fiber resale mandate across the country, but we just need appropriate service delivery so that we can deliver an experience to customers out west that they would expect of us and that we want to deliver. Because, again, all this. Put all of this aside, what matters the most is the experience that we deliver to customers.
Speaker #7: The case: there's always been more resell for years and years and years in the East than in the West. And that's because the regulatory rules were actually always, for some reason, asymmetrical until recently, where there was no fiber mandate in the West, but there was a fiber resell mandate in the East.
Speaker #7: It's a bit inexplicable, but it's what it is. Those rules have changed now so that there's a fiber resell mandate across the country, but we just need appropriate service delivery so that we can deliver an experience to customers out West that they would expect of us and that we want to deliver.
Speaker #7: Because again, all aside, what matters the most is the experience that we deliver to customers. That's what concerns me, the absolute
Mirko Bibic: That's what concerns me the absolute most.
Mirko Bibic: That's what concerns me the absolute most.
Speaker #7: most.
Speaker #8: Okay.
Batya Levy: Okay, thank you.
Batya Levi: Okay, thank you.
Speaker #8: Thank
Speaker #8: you. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Matthew Griffiths, from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Matthew Griffiths, from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Our next question is from Matthew Griffiths from ahead.
Speaker #9: Yeah. Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to ask on guidance. Coming out of the investor day, I think the message - and correct me if I'm wrong - was for within that three-year guidance window for EBITDA growth to be sequentially higher in each subsequent year.
Matthew Griffiths: Yeah, hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to ask on the, on guidance. Coming out of the Investor Day, I think the message, and correct me if I'm wrong, was for, within that three-year guidance window for EBITDA growth to be sequentially higher in each subsequent year. Is that, is that still the case, as we, you know, get... as we see 2026 guidance in the context of the, the three-year guide?
Matthew Griffiths: Yeah, hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to ask on the, on guidance. Coming out of the Investor Day, I think the message, and correct me if I'm wrong, was for, within that three-year guidance window for EBITDA growth to be sequentially higher in each subsequent year. Is that, is that still the case, as we, you know, get... as we see 2026 guidance in the context of the, the three-year guide?
Speaker #9: Is that still the case? As we get as we see 2026 guidance in the context of the three-year
Speaker #7: Yeah.
Curtis Millen: Yeah. Hi, Matthew, it's Curtis. Yeah, nothing, nothing's changed our view there. We, we expect, as our growth businesses ramp up, as Ziply Fiber continues to expand their footprint and, and drive penetration, as our AI-powered solutions businesses ramp up, we, we continue to expect EBITDA to progressively improve over that three-year horizon.
Curtis Millen: Yeah. Hi, Matthew, it's Curtis. Yeah, nothing, nothing's changed our view there. We, we expect, as our growth businesses ramp up, as Ziply Fiber continues to expand their footprint and, and drive penetration, as our AI-powered solutions businesses ramp up, we, we continue to expect EBITDA to progressively improve over that three-year horizon.
Speaker #7: It's Guy, Curtis. Yeah, nothing's changed in our view there. We expect, as our growth businesses ramp up, as Simply Fibre continues to expand their footprint and drive penetration, as our AI-powered solutions businesses ramp up, we continue to expect EBITDA to progressively improve.
Speaker #7: Over that three-year horizon.
Speaker #9: Okay. And so within the 2020 for 2020, guidance range for sorry, of 0 to 4 for 2026, it would seem at the high end of that range, given the ranges that you have longer term, it implies a downward trajectory on subsequent year growth.
Matthew Griffiths: Okay. And so within the guidance range for 2024, sorry, 0 to 4 for 2026, it would seem at the high end of that range, given the ranges that you have longer term, it implies a downward trajectory on subsequent year growth. Can you just help kind of bridge those two together? And maybe there's something lumpy that could fall into 2026, that might fall into 2027. I don't know what it could be, but it just kind of reconcile those things would be helpful.
Matthew Griffiths: Okay. And so within the guidance range for 2024, sorry, 0 to 4 for 2026, it would seem at the high end of that range, given the ranges that you have longer term, it implies a downward trajectory on subsequent year growth. Can you just help kind of bridge those two together? And maybe there's something lumpy that could fall into 2026, that might fall into 2027. I don't know what it could be, but it just kind of reconcile those things would be helpful.
Speaker #9: Can you just help kind of bridge those two together? And maybe there's something lumpy that could fall into 2026 that might fall into 2027.
Speaker #9: I don't know what it could be, but just kind of reconcile those things would be helpful.
Speaker #7: Yeah. It's a fair question, Matthew. And look, the trend is upward, but it's not a linear path. As Mirko talked about earlier, there are timing fluctuations in terms of, especially in our enterprise side of the world, there's a timing impact in terms of advertising continued rebound, launches of our services.
Curtis Millen: Yeah, it's a fair question, Matthew, and look, the trend is upward, but it's not a linear path. As Mirko talked about earlier, there are timing fluctuations in terms of, especially in our enterprise side of the world, there's a timing impact in terms of, you know, advertising, continued rebound, launches of our services. So yes, on a three-year horizon, it's a continuous upward trend, but within any reporting period, there's still gonna be a range of outcomes. But the first point still holds true.
Curtis Millen: Yeah, it's a fair question, Matthew, and look, the trend is upward, but it's not a linear path. As Mirko talked about earlier, there are timing fluctuations in terms of, especially in our enterprise side of the world, there's a timing impact in terms of, you know, advertising, continued rebound, launches of our services. So yes, on a three-year horizon, it's a continuous upward trend, but within any reporting period, there's still gonna be a range of outcomes. But the first point still holds true.
Speaker #7: So yes, on a three-year horizon, it's a continuous upward trend, but within a range of outcomes. any reporting period, there's still going to be But the first point still holds
Speaker #7: true. Okay.
Matthew Griffiths: Okay, that's helpful. And then, you made some comments on wireless ARPU, which are helpful. I just was curious if you would make like, what you would say your assumptions are around kind of, you know, kind of international roaming as a contributor to, you know, either continued declines or stability. Because in the past, you've made some comments on where your monthly recurring revenues have been trending, which has been positive. So, anything to add there would be helpful.
Matthew Griffiths: Okay, that's helpful. And then, you made some comments on wireless ARPU, which are helpful. I just was curious if you would make like, what you would say your assumptions are around kind of, you know, kind of international roaming as a contributor to, you know, either continued declines or stability. Because in the past, you've made some comments on where your monthly recurring revenues have been trending, which has been positive. So, anything to add there would be helpful.
Speaker #9: That's helpful. And then you made some comments on wireless ARPU, which are helpful. I just was curious if you would make what you would say your assumptions are around kind of kind of international roaming as a contributor to either continued declines or stability because in the past, you've made some comments on where your monthly recurring revenues have been trending, which has been positive.
Speaker #9: So anything to add there would be helpful.
Speaker #7: Yeah. So roaming transaction improves sequentially in It was still a decline, but it was a low single-digit decline. So we saw a healthy recovery in consumer roaming revenue in Q4, which is, I'd say, encouraging for future ARPU performance if that continues to hold.
Mirko Bibic: Yeah. So roaming, roaming trends actually improved sequentially in Q4. It was still a decline, but it was a low single-digit decline. So we saw a healthy recovery in consumer roaming revenue in Q4, which is, I'd say, encouraging for future ARPU performance, if that continues to hold.
Mirko Bibic: Yeah. So roaming, roaming trends actually improved sequentially in Q4. It was still a decline, but it was a low single-digit decline. So we saw a healthy recovery in consumer roaming revenue in Q4, which is, I'd say, encouraging for future ARPU performance, if that continues to hold.
Speaker #9: Okay. Perfect. All right. Perfect. Thank you so much, guys. I appreciate the help.
Matthew Griffiths: Okay, perfect. All right, perfect. Thank you so much, guys. I appreciate the help.
Matthew Griffiths: Okay, perfect. All right, perfect. Thank you so much, guys. I appreciate the help.
Speaker #7: Thank you. Thank you, man.
Mirko Bibic: Thank you. Thank you, Matt.
Mirko Bibic: Thank you. Thank you, Matt.
Speaker #4: you. There are no further questions registered at this time. I would now like to turn the meeting over Thank to Mr. Summers.
Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions registered at this time. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Summers.
Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions registered at this time. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Summers.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Matthew. Thank you again, everyone, for your participation on the call this morning. Richard and I will be available throughout the day for follow-up questions or clarifications.
Mirko Bibic: Thank you, Matthew. Thank you again, everyone, for your participation on the call this morning. Richard and I will be available throughout the day for follow-up questions or clarifications. Thanks again, and have a great day.
Chris Summers: Thank you, Matthew. Thank you again, everyone, for your participation on the call this morning. Richard and I will be available throughout the day for follow-up questions or clarifications. Thanks again, and have a great day.
Speaker #1: Thanks again. And have a great
Speaker #1: day.
Speaker #7: Thanks, everyone. Have a good
Curtis Millen: Thanks, everyone. Have a good day.
Curtis Millen: Thanks, everyone. Have a good day.
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