Q3 2025 NexPoint Real Estate Finance Inc Earnings Call

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Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Kate and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the NexPoint Real Estate Finance, Inc. Q3 2025 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press STAR followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press STAR one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Kristen Griffith, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Real estate , finance Q3 2025 . Earning call . All lines have been placed on you to prevent any background noise after the speaker's remarks , there will be a question and answer session .

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Speaker #4: Thank you . Good day , everyone , and welcome to NexPoint Real Estate Finance, Inc. conference call to review the company's results for the third quarter ended September 30th , 2025 .

Kristen Griffith: Thank you. Good day everyone and welcome to NexPoint Real Estate Finance, Inc. Conference Call to review the Company's results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2025. On the call today are Paul Richards, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Matt McGraner, Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Officer. As a reminder, this call is being webcast through the company's website at nref.nexpoint.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meanings of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that are based on management's current expectations, assumptions, and beliefs. Listeners should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements and are encouraged to review the Company's annual report on Form 10-K and the Company's other filings with the SEC for a more complete discussion of risks and other factors that could affect the forward-looking statements.

Speaker #4: On the call today are Paul Richards, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Matt McGregor, Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Officer.

Speaker #4: As a reminder , this call is being webcast . The company's website at . Before we begin , I would like to remind everyone that this conference call contains forward looking statements within the meaning of the private securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that are based on management's current expectations , assumptions and beliefs .

Speaker #4: Listeners should not place undue reliance on any forward looking statements and are encouraged to review the company's annual report on Form 10-K and the company's other filings with the SEC for a more complete discussion of risks and other factors that could affect the forward looking statements .

Speaker #4: The statements made during this conference call speak only as of today's date and except as required by law in Ref , does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements .

Kristen Griffith: The statements made during this conference call speak only as of today's date and except as required by law, NREF does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. This conference call also includes an analysis of non-GAAP financial measures. For a more complete discussion of these non-GAAP financial measures, see the Company's presentation that was filed earlier today. I would now like to turn the call over to Paul Richards. Please go ahead, Paul.

Speaker #4: This conference call also includes an analysis of non-GAAP financial measures . For a more complete discussion of these non-GAAP financial measures , see the company's presentation that was filed earlier today .

Speaker #4: I would now like to turn the call over to Paul Richards . Please go ahead , Paul .

Speaker #5: Thanks , Kristen , and welcome , everyone . Joining us this morning . I'm going to briefly discuss our quarterly results . Move to our balance sheet .

Paul Richards: Thanks Kristen and welcome everyone. Joining us this morning, I'm going to briefly discuss our quarterly results, move to our balance sheet and lastly provide guidance for the next quarter before turning it over to Matt for a detailed commentary on the portfolio and the macro lending environment. Third quarter results are as follows. For the third quarter we reported a net income of $1.12 per diluted share compared to net income of $0.74 per diluted share for the third quarter 2024. The increase in net income for the quarter was due to an increase in unrealized gains on preferred stock and stock warrant investments between the third quarter 2025 and the third quarter 2024. Earnings available for distribution was $0.51 per diluted share in Q3 compared to $0.75 per diluted share in the same period of 2024.

Speaker #5: And lastly provide guidance for the next quarter . Before turning it over to Matt for a detailed commentary on the portfolio and the macro lending environment .

Speaker #5: Third quarter results are as follows . For the third quarter , we reported a net income of $1.12 per diluted share , compared to net income of $0.74 per diluted share for the third quarter of 2020 .

Speaker #5: For the increase in net income for the quarter was due to an increase in unrealized gains on preferred stock and stock warrant investments between the third quarter of 2025 and the third quarter of 2020 .

Speaker #5: For . Earnings available for distribution was $0.51 per diluted share in Q3 , compared to $0.75 per diluted share in the same period of 2020 .

Speaker #5: For cash available for distribution, it was $0.53 per diluted share in Q3, compared to $0.67 per diluted share in the same period of 2020.

Paul Richards: Cash available for distribution was $0.53 per diluted share in Q3 compared to $0.67 per diluted share in the same period of 2024. We paid a regular dividend of $0.50 per share in the third quarter and the board has declared a dividend of $0.50 per share payable for the fourth quarter of 2025. Our dividend in the third quarter was 1.06 times covered by cash available for distribution. Book value per share increased 8% from Q2 2025 to $18.79 per diluted share, with the increase being primarily due to unrealized gain on our preferred stock investment and stock warrants. During the quarter we funded $42.5 million on a life sciences preferred. During the quarter, the company funded $6.5 million on a loan that pays a monthly coupon of SOFR + 900 bps.

Speaker #5: Four . We paid a regular dividend of $0.50 per the third quarter , and the board has declared a dividend of $0.50 per share , payable for the fourth quarter of 2025 .

Speaker #5: share in quarter , we funded 42.5 million on a life Science preferred . During the quarter , the company funded 6.5 million on a loan that pays a monthly coupon of Sofr plus 900 basis points .

Speaker #5: Our dividend in the third quarter was 1.06 times covered by cash available for distribution . Book value per share increased 8% from Q2 2025 to $18.79 per diluted share , with an increase being primarily due to unrealized gain on our preferred stock investment and stock warrants .

Speaker #5: The company sold a multifamily property for $60 million, which resulted in a $3.7 million gain, and raised $65.7 million in gross proceeds from the Series B preferred stock raised on October 27th, 2025.

Paul Richards: The company sold a multifamily property for $60 million that resulted in a $3.7 million gain and raised $65.7 million in gross proceeds from the Series B preferred stock raise. On October 27, 2025, NREF announced a fourth quarter dividend of $0.50 per common share. Moving to the portfolio and balance sheet, our portfolio is comprised of 88 investments with a total outstanding balance of $1.1 billion. Our investments are allocated across sectors as 47.3% multifamily, 33.9% life sciences, 15.9% single-family rental, 1.8% storage and 1.1% marina. Our fixed income portfolio is allocated across investments as 27% CMBS B pieces, 26.5% mezzanine loans, 18.6% preferred equity investments, 12.4% revolving credit facilities, 10% senior loans, 4.2% IO strips and 1.3% promissory notes.

Speaker #5: NRF announced a fourth-quarter dividend of $0.50 per common share. Moving to the portfolio and balance sheet, our portfolio is comprised of 88 investments with a total outstanding balance of $1.1 billion.

Speaker #5: Our investments are allocated across sectors as follows 47.3% multifamily , 33.9% Life Sciences 15.9% Single family Rental , 1.8% storage and 1.1% Marina .

Speaker #5: Our fixed income portfolio is allocated across investments as follows 27% CMBS pieces , 26.5% Mezz loans 18.6% . Preferred equity investments 12.4% . Revolving credit facilities 10% .

Speaker #5: Senior loans 4.2% I o strips and 1.3% promissory notes . The assets collateralizing our investments are allocated geographically as follows . 28.1% Massachusetts , 15.5% Texas , 8% .

Paul Richards: The assets collateralizing our investments are allocated geographically as follows: 28.1% Massachusetts, 15.5% Texas, 8% Georgia, 5.3% California, 4.2% Maryland, 4.4% Florida, with the remainder across states with less than 4% exposure, reflecting our heavy preference for Sun Belt markets with Massachusetts and California exposure heavily weighted towards life sciences. The collateral on our portfolio is 87.4% stabilized with 54.9% loan to value and a weighted average DSCR of 1.41 times. We have $720.9 million of debt outstanding with a weighted average cost of 5.3%. Our debt is collateralized by $633.2 million of collateral with a weighted average maturity of 3.9 years and a debt to equity ratio of 0.93 times. After the quarter, we paid off our $36.5 million senior unsecured notes with the new senior unsecured note offering of $45 million.

Speaker #5: Georgia 5.3% California 4.2% Maryland 4.4% Florida , with the remainder across states with less than 4% exposure , reflecting our heavy preference for Sunbelt markets with Massachusetts and California exposure heavily weighted towards life science .

Speaker #5: The collateral on our portfolio is 87.4% stabilized , with 54.9% loan to value and a weighted average DSR of 1.41 times . We have $728.9 million of debt outstanding , with a weighted average cost of 5.3% .

Speaker #5: Our debt is collateralized by 633.2 million of collateral , with a weighted average maturity of 3.9 years and a debt to equity ratio of 0.93 times .

Speaker #5: After the quarter , we paid off our $36.5 million senior unsecured notes with a new senior unsecured note offering of $45 million . The coupon on the new notes is 7.875% , a slight increase from the 7.5% notes we issued in October of 2020 , when interest rates were near 0% .

Paul Richards: The coupon on the new notes is 7.875%, a slight increase from the 7.5% notes we issued in October of 2020 when interest rates were near 0%. The new notes carry a term of two years with the prepayment options providing flexibility in this declining rate environment. We're pleased with this execution and look forward to terming out the remaining senior unsecured notes in 1H26. Lastly, we have been making great strides in our Series B preferred raise which has almost hit the $400 million offering limit. Given the heightened demand, we are now in the process of launching a Series C preferred which will be a $200 million offering at an 8% coupon where we will continue to deploy capital at 400 basis point plus spreads at the cost of this capital.

Speaker #5: The new notes carry a term of two years with a prepayment options providing flexibility in this declining rate environment . We're pleased with this execution and look forward to turning out the remaining senior unsecured notes in the first half of 26 .

Speaker #5: Lastly , we have been making great strides in our series B preferred rate , which is almost hit the $400 million offering limit given the heightened demand , we are now in the process of launching a series C preferred , which will be a $200 million offering at an 8% coupon , where we will continue to deploy capital at 400 basis points of 400 basis points , plus spreads at the cost of this capital .

Speaker #5: Moving to guidance for the fourth quarter. We are guiding in earnings available for distribution and cash available for distribution as follows.

Paul Richards: Moving to guidance for the fourth quarter, we are guiding an earnings available for distribution and cash available for distribution as follows. Earnings available for distribution of $0.48 per diluted share at a midpoint with a range of $0.43 on the low end and $0.53 on the high end. Cash available for distribution of $0.50 per diluted share at the midpoint with a range of $0.45 on the low end and $0.55 on the high end. Now I would like to turn it over to Matt for a detailed discussion of the portfolio and markets.

Speaker #5: Earnings available for distribution of $0.48 per diluted share at a midpoint , with a range of $0.43 on the low end and $0.53 on the high end .

Speaker #5: Cash available for distribution of $0.50 per diluted share at the midpoint , with a range of $0.45 on the low end and $0.55 on the high end .

Speaker #5: Now we'd like to turn it over to Matt for a detailed discussion of the portfolio and markets .

Speaker #6: Thank you , Paul , and appreciate all the team's hard work here . On the asset management and sourcing front . As we close out another successful quarter .

Matt McGraner: Thank you, Paul, and appreciate all the team's hard work here on the asset management and sourcing front as we close out another successful quarter. I'd like to spend a few minutes discussing what we're seeing in our key verticals.

Speaker #6: I'd like to spend a few minutes discussing what we're seeing in our key verticals and then talk about our pipeline on the residential front .

[Company Representative]: I will talk about our pipeline.

Matt McGraner: On the residential front, we're close to the end of a record national new multifamily supply cycle. CoStar sees annual net deliveries having peaked at 695,000 units in the trailing twelve month period ending fourth quarter of 2024. This compares to annual net delivered units of 351,000 units on average in the prior five years from 2014 to 2019, and then 282,000 units on average since 2001. CoStar forecasts net deliveries reached 697,000 units in 2024 and expected to be 508,000 units in 2025 before falling significantly year over year in 2026 by 49% and then another 20% in 2027. Q3 2025 deliveries are down 17% quarter over quarter and is the last quarter with more than 100,000 units delivered.

Speaker #6: We're close to the end of a record . National new multifamily supply cycle . Kostakis annual net deliveries having peaked at 695,000 units in the trailing 12 month period , ending fourth quarter of 2020 .

Speaker #6: For . This compares to annual net delivered units of 351,000 units on average in the prior five years , from 2014 to 2019 , and then 282,000 units on average since 2001 .

Speaker #6: Co-star forecast: Net deliveries reached 697,000 units in 2024 and are expected to be 508,000 units in 2025. This is before falling significantly year over year in 2026 by 49%, and then another 20% in 2027.

Speaker #6: Q3 2020 , Q3 25 deliveries are down 17% quarter over quarter and is the last quarter with more than 100,000 units delivered . An increased expectation for the third quarter deliveries is followed by a significant drop off to Q4 2025 that is now forecasted at just 69,000 units , down 52% year over year and 41% quarter over quarter .

Matt McGraner: An increased expectation for the third quarter deliveries is followed by a significant drop off to Q4 2025 that is now forecasted at just 69,000 units, down 52% year over year and 41% quarter over quarter. This ushers in a start of a lengthy period where deliveries are expected to be below the long run. National average for 2027 and 2028 delivery forecasts have also fallen. CoStar now expects 2027 deliveries of 234,000 units which compares to a forecast from.

Speaker #6: This ushers in a start of a lengthy period where deliveries are expected to be be below the long run . National average for 2027 and 2028 .

Speaker #6: Delivery forecasts have also fallen. CoStar now expects 27 deliveries of 234,000 units, which compares to a forecast from December of last year of 283,000 units, representing a revision down by 1,717%. Additionally, the forecast for 2028 is 230,000 units.

[Company Representative]: December of last year of 283,000 units.

Matt McGraner: Or a revision down by 17%, 17% and then 230,000 units for 2028 and that compares to a prior forecast of 308,000 units which is down 27%. On the whole, cautious optimism best fits our rental. Our rental market outlook and believe 2026 will usher in a positive revenue, positive revenue for the first time in several years. On the storage front, second quarter earnings for the REITs were consistent with guidance and more or less in line with sell side estimates. Expectation is that Q3 same store revenue will be flat year over year and same store NOI will be slightly down. That is the expectation for the full year for the sector. Flattish revenue and 50 to 150 basis points decline in NOI. The peak leasing season was again a little shorter and choppier than in the pre-COVID era.

Speaker #6: And that compares to a prior forecast of 308,000 units , which is down 27% on the whole , cautious optimism best fits our our rental market outlook and believe 2026 will usher in a positive revenue .

Speaker #6: Positive revenue for the first time in several years on the storage front , second quarter earnings for the rights were consistent with guidance and more or less in line with sell side estimates .

Speaker #6: Expectation is that Q3 same store revenue will be flat year over year and same store NOI will be slightly down . That is the expectation for the full .

Speaker #6: The full year for the sector showed flattish revenue and a decline in NOI of 50 to 150 basis points. The peak leasing season was again a little shorter and choppier than in the pre-COVID era.

Speaker #6: April and May great months in June and July were a little less great . As stated in past reports , the sector has been negatively impacted by the lack of movement in the housing sector , which is a large demand driver for self storage .

Matt McGraner: April and May were great months and June and July were a little less great. As stated in past reports, the sector has been negatively impacted by the lack of movement in the housing sector which is a large demand driver for self storage. The news is a lot better on the rate front. After eight or so quarters of falling rates with some rates down as much as 20% from COVID era highs, rates.

Speaker #6: The news is a lot better on the right front after eight or so quarters of falling rates , with some rates down as much as 20% from Covid era highs .

Speaker #6: Rates have begun to move up again . John Good , our CEO of our storage platform , attended Partners conference last week , during which they informed us that across their 4000 store unit universe , rates universally rose in each of June through September .

[Company Representative]: Have begun to move up again.

Matt McGraner: Our CEO of our storage platform attended EXR's partners conference last week, during which they informed us that across their 4,000 store universe, rates universally rose in each of June through September. There is a lag effect on rising rates, but this trend should provide optimism that 2026 revenue growth will be healthier than 2025 and NOI growth should resume. Supply remains muted. Facilities under construction, according to Yardi, are less than 3% of existing supply, which is the benchmark for equilibrium. Yardi predicts that deliveries for the next couple of years could be as low as 1% of new supply, which should bring pricing power back to the industry and allow revenue and NOI growth to return to the 3% to 5% range within which it has traditionally operated.

Speaker #6: There is a lag effect on rising rates , but this trend should provide optimism that 2026 revenue growth will be healthier than 2025 and NOI growth should resume .

Speaker #6: Supply remains muted . Facilities under construction according to Yardi , are less than 3% of existing supply , which is the benchmark for equilibrium .

Speaker #6: Yardi predicts that deliveries for the next couple of years could be as low as 1% of new supply , which should bring pricing power back to the industry and allow revenue and NOI growth to return to the 3 to 5% range within which it has traditionally operated .

Speaker #6: Anecdotally , in talking to experienced developers , bank financing is still very difficult to find , and is expensive as land continues to be expensive .

Matt McGraner: Anecdotally, in talking to experienced developers, bank financing is still very difficult to find and is expensive as land continues to be expensive. Also, there's been continued inflation in materials costs, all of which has negatively affected prospective returns and has deterred some developers from moving forward with new supply. Interest rates continue to be much higher than they were during the 2015-2020 development.

Speaker #6: Also, there has been continued inflation and rising materials costs, all of which have negatively affected prospective returns and deterred some developers from moving forward with new supply.

Speaker #6: Interest rates continue to be much higher than they were during the 2015 to 2020 development cycle . Again supporting revenue growth into 26 .

[Company Representative]: Cycle, again supporting revenue growth into 2026.

Speaker #6: On the life science front , our Alewife project did land the flagship pioneering backed AI and life science company Lila Sciences on a long term lease for 245,000ft² , with options to take more space in the future .

Matt McGraner: On the life sciences front, our Alewife project did land the Flagship Pioneering-backed AI and life sciences company Lila Sciences on a long-term lease for 245,000 square feet with options to take more.

[Company Representative]: Space in the future.

Speaker #6: The lease stabilizes the project and gives it a powerful base from which to drive , leasing momentum and catalyze a new AI cluster at the broader Alewife project .

Matt McGraner: The Lila Sciences lease stabilizes the project and gives it a powerful base from which to drive leasing momentum and catalyze a new AI cluster at the broader Alewife project. This lease creates additional capital market optionality for both NexPoint Real Estate Finance, Inc. and the borrower, as it is the first of many green shoots we are seeing in our opportunistic base life sciences investments. I'm also very pleased with our pipeline today and menu of capital options available to us to capitalize on these opportunities today. The pipeline consists of over $350 million of investments in $120 million of multifamily, $75 million of build-to-rent, $45 million of small bay industrial storage, and $80 million of life sciences and advanced manufacturing loans. In closing, our underlying credit profile of the portfolio remains very strong atop the commercial mortgage REIT sector.

Speaker #6: This lease creates additional capital market optionality for both NRF and the borrower , as is the first of many green shoots we're seeing in our opportunistic based life science investments .

Speaker #6: I'm also very pleased with our pipeline today , and menu of capital options available to us to capitalize on these opportunities . Today , the pipeline consists of over $350 million of investments in 120 million of multifamily , 75 million of BTR , 45 million of small bay industrial storage , and 80 million of life sciences and advanced manufacturing loans .

Speaker #6: In closing , our underlying credit profile of the portfolio remains very strong atop the Commercial Mortgage REIT sector . Moreover , we continue to have some of the lowest leverage profile of any commercial mortgage REIT , which allows us a variety of capital options to pursue a creative growth to fund our exciting pipeline of investments .

Matt McGraner: Moreover, we continue to have some of the lowest leverage profile of any commercial mortgage REIT, which allows us a variety of capital options to pursue accretive growth to fund our exciting pipeline of investments. Given our healthy dividend coverage, very low leverage, stable book value and capital options available to us, you can expect that we will also buy back stock opportunistically while pursuing these new investments. Indeed, we're excited about our growth in particular and cautiously optimistic about the overall market dynamics going into 2026. As always, I want to thank this team for their hard work. Now we'd like to turn the call over to the operator to take your questions.

Speaker #6: Given our healthy dividend coverage, very low leverage, stable book value, and capital options available to us, you can expect that we will also buy back stock opportunistically while pursuing these new investments.

Speaker #6: Indeed , we're excited about our growth in particular and cautiously optimistic about the overall market dynamics going into 2026 . As always , I want to thank this team for their hard work , and now we'd like to turn the call over to the operator to take your questions .

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Operator: At this time I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Jason Samshu with KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster . Your first question comes from the line of Jason Sacha with KB .

Speaker #3: W . Your line is open .

Speaker #7: I . Thanks for taking my question and good morning . So yeah , it would be helpful to hear just just your updated view on the life science sector .

[Analyst]: Thanks for taking my question and good morning. It would be helpful to hear just your updated view on the life sciences sector. We're seeing soft tenant demand and oversupply in some markets, specifically as it relates to NexPoint Real Estate Finance, Inc.'s exposure. Your thoughts there, and if there's any color you can provide on leasing at the asset, that would be helpful.

Speaker #7: You know , we're seeing soft tenant demand and oversupply in some markets . And then specifically as it relates to NPS exposure . Just your thoughts .

Speaker #7: Just your thoughts . There . And if there's any color you can provide on leasing at the asset , that would be helpful .

Speaker #7: Yeah .

Speaker #6: You bet . I think that the good news about our life sciences book is we didn't start making life science loans until , you know , 2024 , most of the distress was within the sector was , you know , for for projects that were capitalized , you know , shortly after Covid or during the , you know , the extreme liquidity that was there and all the all the rage , you know , where you do see weakness , like , for example , in Alexandria's reports is more or less in there .

Matt McGraner: Yeah, you bet. I think that the good news about.

[Company Representative]: Our life sciences book is we didn't start making life sciences loans until 2024. Most of the distress within the sector was for projects that were capitalized shortly after Covid and during the extreme liquidity that was there and all the rage. Where you do see weakness, like for example in Alexandria's reports, is more or less in their, and they said this, their B assets and their non-core markets. Where they are showing strength in leasing and having good tenant demand is in the gateway markets of San Diego, San Francisco, and their master plan communities or campuses in Cambridge and Boston. That's where our exposure is. We're highly focused on first to fill assets including the Alewife project, which again is roughly a 30% loan to cost.

Speaker #6: And they said this their core or excuse me , their , their B assets and their non-core markets where they are showing strength in leasing and having good tenant demand is in the the gateway markets of of San Diego , San Francisco and their and their master plan communities or campuses in Cambridge and Boston .

Speaker #6: And that's where our exposure is . We're highly focused on first to fill assets , including the Alewife project , which which again , is a is roughly a 30% loan to cost .

Speaker #6: And that's the majority of our life of our life sciences exposure . The good news is , is this this first lease with Lyla , backed by , you know , mag seven style and investors is going to create the cluster , if you will , at the project .

Matt McGraner: That's the majority of our life sciences exposure.

[Company Representative]: The good news is this first lease.

Matt McGraner: With Lila Sciences backed by Flagship Pioneering.

[Company Representative]: Investors is going to create the cluster.

Matt McGraner: If you will at the project.

Speaker #6: We're already getting more looks , you know , at the project for leasing . And as the project stabilized , being two thirds now , you know , occupied and the tenant taking space towards the end of the year , we can do a number of things to to take advantage of of the , the liquidity that the lease provides .

[Company Representative]: We're already getting more looks at the project releasing, and as the project stabilized, being two thirds now occupied and the tenant taking space towards the end of the year, we can do a number of things to take advantage of the liquidity that the lease provides. We could a note it, we can be refi'd out, we could sell the loan given that it's SOFR + 900 bps, which is mispriced now at a stabilized life sciences project. I think this lease just solidifies our precision-based investments, taking advantage opportunistically at a time when there was no liquidity in the space. Very, very proud to see that the first of, kind of one of the first investments that we made in life sciences is bearing fruit for the.

Speaker #6: We could note it . We can be refied out , you know , we could sell the loan given that it's , you know , so for 900 , which is mispriced now to stabilize life science project .

Speaker #6: So I think this this lease just solidifies you know , our precision based investments taking advantage of opportunities opportunistically at a time when there was no liquidity in the space .

Speaker #6: And very , very proud to see that , you know , the first of a , you know , kind of one of the first investments that we made in life sciences bearing fruit for the for the company and the shareholders .

Matt McGraner: Company and the shareholders.

Speaker #7: Great . Thank you . And then just to shift to multifamily , no . Pretty clear from your remarks that , you know , you see the supply backdrop as improving .

[Analyst]: Great, thank you. Just to shift to multifamily, pretty clear from your remarks that you see the supply backdrop as improving, but at the same time we have seen some pressure in the bridge lending space. I guess as it relates to deployment, where would you preference deploying capital into senior loans versus mezzanine or preferred versus equity ownership, and just your view on some of the softness that we've seen in the bridge space. Thank you.

Speaker #7: So but at the same time we some pressure in the bridge lending space . So I guess as it turns as it relates to deployment , you know , where where do you preference deploying capital into senior loans versus mezzanine or preferred versus equity ownership and kind of just your view on some of the softness that we've seen in the bridge space .

Speaker #7: Thank you .

Speaker #6: Yeah . You bet . I think , you know , most of the most of the softness in the bridge space was the floating rate .

Matt McGraner: Yeah, you bet. I think.

[Company Representative]: Most of the softness in the bridge space was the floating rate bridge loans that were originated in 2021-2022 with two to three year maturities that can't be refi'd out today. There has been a lot of folks extending and pretending, which I think is the right thing to do. As my prepared remarks stated, there is light at the end of the tunnel. It's not a question of if, it's just when. In the recent months, August and September across the multifamily sector were a little bit weaker than expected. There is now new lease growth inflecting across most of the major top 50 MSAs. Particularly, you're starting to see new lease growth inflecting in the markets where supply is always constrained, such as San Francisco, New York, and Chicago.

Speaker #6: Bridge loans that were originated in , you know , 21 , 22 with , you know , two , three year maturities that , you know , can't , can't be refined out today .

Speaker #6: So there's been , you know , a lot of folks , you know , extending and pretending , which I think is the right which is the right thing to do .

Speaker #6: As my comments , my prepared remarks , you know , stated , you know , there is there is light at the end of the tunnel .

Speaker #6: It's not a question of if; it's just a matter of when. In the recent months of August and September, performance across the multifamily sector has been a little bit weaker than expected.

Speaker #6: But there is now new lease growth , inflecting across , you know , most of the major top 50 MSAs , particularly . You're starting to see new lease growth infecting inflecting in the markets where supply has always constrained , such as San Francisco , New York and Chicago .

Speaker #6: Sunbelt is still tough , but there's , you know , infinite job growth , demand for for multifamily in the in the Sunbelt .

[Company Representative]: Sunbelt is still tough, but there's infinite job growth demand for multifamily in the Sunbelt mile. It will take a little bit longer to work its way through the system into, you know, I think the second quarter, third quarter 2026 where we believe we'll start seeing new lease growth inflect higher in the Sunbelt market. That's reason for optimism.

Speaker #6: Smile . It'll take a little bit longer to work its way through the system into , you know , I think the second quarter .

Speaker #6: Third quarter 2026 . Where where we believe we'll start seeing new lease growth inflect higher in the Sunbelt markets . So that's that's reason for optimism .

Speaker #6: And if you do have a bridge loan and you can wait it out whether you're a borrower or a lender , you you want to you want to give yourself the opportunity to take advantage of that new lease growth .

Matt McGraner: If you do have a bridge loan and you can wait it out.

[Company Representative]: Whether you're a borrower or a lender, you want to, you want to.

Matt McGraner: Give yourself the opportunity to take advantage.

[Company Representative]: Of that new lease growth, there is a little bit of pressure, but I think it's workable. It's not, you know, this is an office or hotel or anything with, you know, extreme heavy CapEx. The multifamily and the residential market will correct, it's dramatically undersupplied. Once you do see new lease growth come and inflect next year, capital will follow. Equity cost of capital will become, you know, key again. I expect transaction volumes to pick up dramatically in 2026. You're right, it's still a little bit tough, but there are reasons for supreme optimism going forward.

Speaker #6: So there is a little bit of pressure , but I think it's workable . It's not you know , this is an office or hotel or anything with , you know , extreme heavy CapEx .

Speaker #6: The multifamily and the residential market will correct . It's dramatically undersupplied . And then , you know , once you do see new lease growth , you know , come and inflect next year , capital will follow equity , cost of capital will become , you know , key again .

Speaker #6: And I expect transaction volumes to pick up dramatically in the in 2026 . So you're right it's it's it's still a little bit tough but there are there are reasons for for supreme optimism going forward .

Speaker #7: Great . Thank you .

[Analyst]: Great, thank you.

Speaker #6: You bet . .

Matt McGraner: You bet.

Speaker #3: I will now turn the call back to management team for closing remarks .

Operator: I will now turn the call back to the management team for closing remarks.

Speaker #6: Thank you all for your participation today and look forward to speaking next quarter . Thanks again here for the the team at next point and good good day .

Matt McGraner: Thank you all for your participation today.

[Company Representative]: I look forward to speaking next quarter. Thanks again from the team at NexPoint and good day.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. You may now disconnect. Thank you and have a great day.