Q3 2025 Turtle Beach Earnings Call
Speaker #4: Good day , ladies and gentlemen . Thank you for standing by . Welcome to the Turtle Beach Corporation , third quarter 2025 conference call .
Speaker #4: At this time , all participants are in listen only mode . A question and answer session will follow the prepared remarks as a reminder , the conference call is being recorded .
Speaker #4: I will now turn the conference over to Jacques Cornet from the Investor Relations team . Jack , you may begin .
Speaker #5: Thank you . Operator . On today's call , we'll be referring to the press release filed this afternoon at details . The company's third quarter 2020 results , which is available on the news page of the company's Investor Relations website .
Speaker #5: Corp Turtle Beach Corp , where you'll also find the latest earnings presentation that supplements the information discussed on today's call . Finally , a recording of the call will be available on the events and presentations section of the company's Investor Relations website later today .
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Speaker #5: While the company believes that its expectations are based upon reasonable assumptions , numerous factors may affect actual results and may cause results to differ materially .
Speaker #5: So the company encourages you to review the safe harbor statements and risk factors contained in today's press release and in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission , including , without limitation , its annual Report on Form 10-K and other periodic reports , which identify specific risk factors that also may cause actual results or events to differ materially from those described in our forward looking statements .
Speaker #5: The company does not undertake to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements after this conference call . The company also notes that on this call , we will be discussing non-GAAP financial information .
Speaker #5: The company is providing that information as a supplement to information prepared in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States or GAAP .
Speaker #5: You can find a reconciliation of these metrics to the company's reported GAAP results in the reconciliation tables provided in today's earnings release and presentation .
Speaker #5: Hosting the call today are Chris Kern , Chief Executive Officer , and Mark Weinswig Financial officer . With that , I'll turn the call over to Chris .
Speaker #5: Chris .
Speaker #6: Thanks , Jack . Good afternoon , everyone , and thanks for joining us for Turtle Beach's third quarter 2020 earnings call . Turtle beach delivered another quarter of solid execution against our strategic priorities , with results that met our expectations and the face of the ongoing challenges in the gaming accessories market .
Speaker #6: Today , I'd like to touch on four highlights from the quarter . First , we generated $80.5 million in revenue , and we continued to make progress on profitability with gross margins up nearly 120 basis points year over year , coming in at over 37% .
Speaker #6: That improvement reflects the team's continued focus on operational discipline and cost management . I'm especially proud that we were
Speaker #6: able to fully chief offset the margin impact of tariffs this quarter . Thanks to strong execution across the board , including partner cost negotiations , selective price adjustments and selling inventory that we proactively brought in before the latest tariff increases .
Speaker #6: Second , as we mentioned last quarter , we completed a refinancing of our term loan and credit facility . This was an important milestone for us .
Speaker #6: We strengthened our balance sheet , lowered our cost of capital and extended our maturity profile , giving us more flexibility going forward . The refinancing also cut our term loan interest rate by more than 450 basis points , which will provide meaningful savings and help us continue building long term shareholder value .
Speaker #6: Third , we continue to return capital to shareholders through our repurchase program . During the quarter , we bought back $10 million of stock from our existing shareholder , Diversis Capital .
Speaker #6: Roughly 695,000 shares and an average price of $14.41 . That brings our year to date repurchases to about $17 million . Share repurchases remain an important part of our strategy .
Speaker #6: They demonstrate both our confidence in the business and our ongoing commitment to creating value for our shareholders . And finally , we maintained our focus on innovation , announcing and launching more than 40 new products since Q2 .
Speaker #6: This momentum strengthens our position heading into the holiday season and sets us up for continued growth in 2026 . Our accelerated launch cadence across headsets , controllers , simulation gear and PC peripherals highlights our transformation into a comprehensive gaming accessories leader with the added advantage of official partnerships with all three major console platforms .
Speaker #6: Let's take a look . A closer look at the product side , where we've made some exciting additions across our entire Turtle Beach lineup , starting with headsets , we've expanded our portfolio with several new wired models since Q2 .
Speaker #6: Our Airlite fit one of our officially licensed headsets for Nintendo Switch and Switch two delivers great audio , a super lightweight fit , and comes in a range of fun color options for Nintendo fans everywhere .
Speaker #6: We also launched an officially licensed switch version of our Recon 70 , which continues to hold its spot as the industry's best selling wired gaming headset .
Speaker #6: Year after year . For PlayStation and other platforms . We rolled out the new Atlas 200 series , which includes our first ever officially licensed playset , PlayStation headset , and features our premium 50 millimeter Nanoclay drivers for incredible sound clarity .
Speaker #6: The response has been fantastic , and it even received a perfect ten out of ten score and Editor's Choice award from CG Mag Online , which we're thrilled about through our ongoing partnership with Nintendo .
Speaker #6: We also announced a broad lineup of officially licensed accessories for both Switch and Switch two . This includes new rematch , afterglow , and Afterglow Wave wired and wireless controllers , along with travel cases and other accessories that are rolling out now through the end of the year .
Speaker #6: Controllers continue to be one of our strongest growth opportunities , and we're proud to now be one of the leading third party controller brands in the market .
Speaker #6: We've grown thanks in part to our premium Victrix brand , which is well known among competitive gamers . The new Victrix Pro BFG reloaded controllers for PlayStation , Xbox and PC raised the bar again with upgrades like Hall effect triggers and mechanical buttons that give players a real performance edge for Nintendo fans .
Speaker #6: We also launched two new wireless lenticular controllers themed for Donkey Kong and Super Mario , featuring dynamic artwork that shifts with different viewing angles on the Xbox side , we've added new afterglow , Wave and Rematch Core wired controllers , and several exciting colorways , plus the Afterglow Ignite RGB controller for Xbox and PC , which looks incredible .
Speaker #6: Wee even expanded further into music , gaming with our new Riff Master Wireless guitar controller for Nintendo Switch and Switch two . Building on the success that we've seen with our Xbox and PlayStation models on the simulation front , our velocity one series continues to push .
Speaker #6: Boundaries . We introduced the velocity one race CD3 wheel and pedals . The velocity one FR formula style wheel , and the Racer wireless wheel for Xbox and Windows .
Speaker #6: Each of these amazing new products were engineered to bring even more realism and fun . Whether you're a dedicated sim racer or just want a great driving experience .
Speaker #6: And in PC gaming , we're broadening our footprint with high performance peripherals like the Vulcan two TKL , hot swappable mechanical keyboard , and the burst two Pro Wireless Esports mouse , both earning top tier reviews for Speed , accuracy , and design .
Speaker #6: Altogether , these new products show how Turtle Beach has evolved into a true gaming accessories powerhouse . While delivering innovation , quality and value across every major category and platform .
Speaker #6: We're pleased with how our team continues to execute by growing our portfolio , driving efficiency , and laying down a strong financial foundation for the future .
Speaker #6: Even though the overall gaming accessories market remains down year to date , we've seen year over year improvements as expected through Q3 . We're encouraged by the improvement trends we've seen and remain confident in the industry's growth trajectory .
Speaker #6: Looking ahead to 2026, there's a lot to be excited about regarding the upcoming release of GTA VI. Other major Triple-A game launches, the continued momentum of the Switch 2, and an overdue replacement cycle for accessories bought during COVID are all setting the stage for a new multi-year growth cycle in gaming.
Speaker #6: Combine that with our expanded product lineup and stronger balance sheet , and we're in a great position to capitalize on what's next for Turtle Beach and the broader gaming market .
Speaker #6: With that , I'll hand it over to Marc to walk through the quarterly financials . Marc .
Speaker #7: Thank you , Chris , and good afternoon , everyone . As Chris mentioned , our third quarter results demonstrate our continued focus on operational performance and financial discipline in the current market environment .
Speaker #7: Revenue for the third quarter was 80.5 million , in line with expectations . Our gross margin of 37.4% is a year over year improvement of nearly 120 basis points , reflecting the benefits of our ongoing cost optimization initiatives and tariff mitigation strategies .
Speaker #7: Operating expenses for the quarter were 24.7 million , representing 30.7% of revenue , compared to 27.7 million , or 29.4% , in the prior year period .
Speaker #7: The expense reduction over the prior year was primarily driven by lower sales and integration related activities , partially offset by investments in internal systems , processes and infrastructure that will enable us to continue scaling the business and drive operational leverage .
Speaker #7: Net income for the quarter was 1.7 million , which includes a one time , non-cash write off of 1.9 million for previously capitalized fees relating to our refinancing .
Speaker #7: Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter was 11 million and reflects strong performance at our current revenue level . Turning to the balance sheet at September 30th , our cash position was 12 million and total debt was 90 million , resulting in net debt of $78 million .
Speaker #7: As Chris mentioned , our recently completed term loan and credit facility refinancing has strengthened our capital structure , increased our operating flexibility , and reduced our cost of capital with the base interest rate on the term loan lowered by approximately 450 basis points .
Speaker #7: We expect an annual interest savings of over $2 million . Turtle Beach's business model is designed to generate strong free cash flow , supported by our current operational structure and disciplined working capital management .
Speaker #7: We expect to see significant improvement in our operating cash flow over the next two quarters , as we benefit from the seasonal dynamics of the holiday period .
Speaker #7: With respect to our capital allocation strategy , year to date , we have returned approximately $17 million to shareholders through share repurchases . During the third quarter , we repurchased $10 million of shares from our existing shareholder , Diversis capital .
Speaker #7: Under our previously authorized $75 million share buyback program . One of our key priorities is to deliver value to our shareholders through share buybacks .
Speaker #7: While maintaining a strong balance sheet . This will continue to be an integral part of our capital allocation activities . Moving forward . Based on our performance through the first three quarters and our outlook for the remainder of the year .
Speaker #7: We are reiterating our full year 2025 revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges . We continue to expect full year revenue to be in the range of 340 million to 360 million and full year adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of 47 million to 53 million .
Speaker #7: In summary , our third quarter results reflect our continued focus on operational excellence and financial discipline in a complex market environment . We are pleased with our ability to maintain strong gross margins , refinance our debt facilities and return significant capital to shareholders , all while continuing to innovate across our product platform .
Speaker #7: Our strengthened financial position and enhanced operational flexibility position us well to capitalize on the opportunities ahead . With that , I will turn the call back to Chris for closing remarks .
Speaker #6: Thanks , Marc . In closing , I'm really proud of the progress we've made this quarter , especially given the challenges and the broader gaming accessories market .
Speaker #6: Our strategy is clear . Our execution is strong and our teams remain laser focused on driving sustainable growth and long term value for our shareholders .
Speaker #6: We've built great momentum across the business , and I'm confident that Turtle Beach is exceptionally well positioned to take advantage of the exciting opportunities ahead .
Speaker #6: And the holiday season throughout 2026 and well beyond , as the next major growth cycle in gaming unfolds , I want to thank our incredible employees for their hard work and dedication .
Speaker #6: Our partners for their collaboration and our shareholders for their continued support . Together , we're pushing Turtle Beach forward into its next phase of performance and growth .
Speaker #6: With that operator , we can open the call for Q&A .
Speaker #4: Thank you . We'll now begin the question and answer session . To join the question queue , you may press star then one on your telephone keypad .
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Speaker #4: Our first question is from Ryan Besoyan with Craig-hallum . Please go ahead .
Speaker #8: Hey guys , it's Ryan on for Tony . Thanks for taking my questions . From a high level , I'm just curious on mainly headsets and controllers what you're seeing in terms of an accessory refresh .
Speaker #8: Just given the launch of battlefield six , upcoming launch of Call of Duty . And then what you're seeing with kind of consumer spending trends for the December quarter .
Speaker #6: Sure . Hi , Ryan . You know , the refresh is I would say , delayed . You know , we've seen that since Covid , actually , when you look at the markets year to date , the markets continue to improve year over year .
Speaker #6: But they still remain down . And this was all accounted for in our guidance when we guided in Q1 . If you recall , the accessories market at that point , and this is mainly talking headsets and third party controllers , the markets were down over 20% year over year in Q1 .
Speaker #6: So what we had guided is we believe the markets would continue to improve through Q3 . And Q2 and Q3 , and end down for the full year .
Speaker #6: About 10 to 12% . We have seen that play out . So when you look at Q2 , the markets improved . They were down sort of in the high teens .
Speaker #6: And then when you look at Q3 , they've improved again on a year to date basis . And they're down , you know , kind of low to mid teens .
Speaker #6: So we are trending well to that 10 to 12% down . But that really implies that that refresh cycle hasn't fully kicked in yet .
Speaker #6: So we do believe that's one of the catalysts . As you look ahead . You know into the holiday and also into 2026 , along with many other positive factors for the gaming market .
Speaker #6: We do think that's something that's going to drive growth in 2026 .
Speaker #8: Okay , great . And then as my follow up , more on the simulator side of the business , I mean , it was nice to see some new wheel launches in that space .
Speaker #8: I'm curious again what you know , what you guys are seeing in terms of maybe demand for for the new wheels or just in general on that business .
Speaker #8: And then the same for kind of the flight simulator market , what you guys are seeing there .
Speaker #6: Sure . Yeah . Starting with the race wheels , we've seen some nice growth there with the recent launches . We've got some good placements of those coming up at retail .
Speaker #6: So we're pleased to see the progress of the new race products . I thought our team did a really fantastic job with those products and the engineering folks that worked on those .
Speaker #6: So the race category in general is is up year over year . Flight SIM is very similar to the other . The other categories .
Speaker #6: Flight SIM is down , you know , kind of low teens year over year . So very much in line with the rest of the accessories market .
Speaker #8: Great . Thanks so much guys .
Speaker #6: Thanks , Ryan .
Speaker #4: The next question is from Drew Crum with B Riley Securities . Please go ahead .
Speaker #5: Okay . Thanks . Hey , guys . Good afternoon .
Speaker #9: So I wanted to start by asking about GTA six . You mentioned it in your preamble . And in light of today's announcement , the game has been postponed again , I know the first delay was a factor in your decision to adjust 2025 guidance .
Speaker #9: Earlier this year . I know you're not providing an outlook for next year at this point , but with the release date pushed out by six months from May to now , November , curious as to how that could impact your 2026 ?
Speaker #9: And then I have a follow up .
Speaker #6: Great question , drew . We saw that as well . And I think that's just an indication of how focused that team over at Take-Two is on delivering an amazing game .
Speaker #6: I think that's really what we're going to get when that when that game is launched , you know , we'll factor that into our 2026 guide .
Speaker #6: It's one of the things that we like about 2026 . There's many other things happening in the gaming industry that in addition to GTA six , which is going to be a fantastic launch that really have us excited about what's going on in gaming .
Speaker #6: If you look at the trends , you know , over the last several months , Circrna cited the last five months or have had consecutive year over year growth for the overall gaming industry through September .
Speaker #6: And I think what you're starting to see is the momentum that's building , not only for a new hardware to switch to , obviously is done very well .
Speaker #6: You might have seen Nintendo raise their their outlook on units , I think from 15 to 19 million for the switch two . So that'll continue to drive engagement with gamers .
Speaker #6: But we've seen really good traction on other Triple-A launches . You know , Borderlands four has been terrific . Battlefield six has has driven some some great engagement .
Speaker #6: And we're seeing that in the sell through . And , you know , looking ahead , Black ops is always a great , you know , title for for accessories .
Speaker #6: So, there are a lot of other things happening in the industry. Certainly, we'll factor in the timing of GTA VI, but that's just one of many things we're looking at.
Speaker #9: Okay . Got it . And then you guys delivered some nice gross margin improvement in the quarter . As you look at four .
Speaker #9: Q how sustainable is that with tariffs and the holidays where you tend to have more promotional activity , can you hold those games ?
Speaker #7: Yeah . Well , we're really excited about the , you know , kind of what Q4 is going to look like . You know , we have seen continuous improvement in our gross margins .
Speaker #7: You know , one thing that we've talked about on previous calls was , you know , the potential impact for the tariffs , we worked very , very diligently .
Speaker #7: You know , both operations and sales working together in tandem to make sure that we could mitigate , you almost all of the impacts associated with that .
Speaker #7: And , you know , so far with Q4 looking like it's going to be a very , very good quarter , we're excited about what the gross margins could be .
Speaker #9: Okay . All right . Thanks , guys .
Speaker #6: Thanks , drew .
Speaker #4: The next question is from Sean McGowan with Roth Capital Partners . Please go ahead .
Speaker #8: Thanks . I want to follow up on .
Speaker #10: Drew's question there on gross margin . And hey , drew , it's great to have you back on that gross margin outlook regarding tariffs .
Speaker #10: Have you exhausted , do you think all that you can do to mitigate the impact or conversely , might there be some headwinds that you're not anticipating related specifically to tariffs that maybe cause some more pressure going forward ?
Speaker #6: Hey , Sean , thanks for the question . And yeah , you hit it right on the head . It's been a very high focus area for us .
Speaker #6: Is is to continue to work on tariff mitigations throughout the year . And there's really three fronts that we've been addressing . First , working with our manufacturing partners to drive costs out as well .
Speaker #6: As we've talked about in the previous calls . You know , transfer us production into Vietnam . Secondly , you know , negotiations with our retailers and the retail programs associated with our products .
Speaker #6: And third , you know , selective cost or price increases and , you know , the combination of those three effects , we are basically completely offsetting the tariff impact for 2025 with with the combined impact of the benefits from those , those three activities .
Speaker #6: And so when we look ahead , I wouldn't say that we've exhausted everything we can do there . Certainly if we see the environment change on tariffs , I think that there's other mitigations that we could put in place .
Speaker #6: I'm highly confident in our team's ability to do that . I really have to give the credit across our entire organization . It's been a real area of focus for this year , and they've done a fantastic job .
Speaker #6: So , you know , I'm really pleased to see what has come out of that . And the strong margin that we've been able to generate this quarter .
Speaker #6: And , and continued strong margin in Q4 because of those actions .
Speaker #10: Thanks . Another question . This is on product . And you know , you did a good job of summarizing some of the products you're excited about .
Speaker #10: But drilling down a little bit , can you talk about some of the features that specifically like headsets and controllers ? What what are some of the features that the new products would have that would be powerful in inducing somebody to upgrade ?
Speaker #10: If they're like if their headsets working fine , why would they ? Why would they upgrade ? But what are the features that would really drive them to say , hey , I got to get that .
Speaker #6: Sure, there are so many upgrades available with technology and the work that our engineering team has done to include a lot of those new technologies into these new products.
Speaker #6: As an example , for headsets , right . One of the big step ups for , you know , drew had asked about the , you know , the refresh cycle and , and what that looks like , or maybe Ryan had asked about that .
Speaker #6: The latest headsets that we've got , our latest generation is built on newer chipsets that draw lower power consumption . So for for a gamer , that means they're going to have much longer battery life than they've ever had in the past .
Speaker #6: And , you know , the connectivity on those headsets from a wireless standpoint really flawless . You know , connectivity from from a wireless audio standpoint .
Speaker #6: And we've made a lot of investments as well in upgrading the comfort of the headsets moving forward . So for for those gamers out there that want a game on long gaming sessions , you know , they're engaged with their friends , the latest headsets really help support them to do that .
Speaker #6: When you look at controllers again , there's been technology upgrades , upgrades on things like Hall effect , you know , triggers and and joysticks , including TMR technology that really eliminates drift for gamers , which has been a long standing problem .
Speaker #6: So it's there's a lot in the products that are going to give gamers a benefit when they go into to upgrade and to replace their older gear
Speaker #10: Thanks . That's that's helpful . Appreciate it .
Speaker #6: Thanks , .
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Speaker #4: The next question is from Jack Kodera with Maxim Group . Please go ahead .
Speaker #11: Hi . Thanks . This is Jack Kodera calling in for Jack . I just had one more question . Kind of a follow up regarding consumer strength .
Speaker #11: Could you give any more color how you're seeing consumer strength shape up into the holiday season , particularly if you're seeing anything notable across different price points of your products ?
Speaker #11: Thank you .
Speaker #6: Sure . That's a great question . It's something that , especially with the tariff impacts , you know , across the industry this year that we've been watching very closely .
Speaker #6: Fortunately for us , you know , we've we've we've worked very hard to maintain a lot of the price points for , for a very long time .
Speaker #6: And in the last , the last round of tariffs , a few years ago , we didn't have to raise prices , you know , with a selective price increases .
Speaker #6: We've made now , we've seen consumers come along with us . We really haven't seen any impact in a meaningful way on the sell through rates , even though the prices have have gone up slightly .
Speaker #6: We're seeing a strong response from premium consumers . So at the higher end of the price points , we're still seeing strong demand .
Speaker #6: There , you know , and you know , some of the some of the lower price points and some of the mids are are where we start to see a little bit of challenges just from an overall market perspective .
Speaker #6: So it's something that , you know , we'll continue to monitor as , as we go into holiday here . I do believe , as we've seen in the past two quarters , that we'll see continued improvement in the overall markets here in Q4 and , you know , we've got the added benefit here in Q4 as well as , you know , we anticipated that the retailers may not load in early for holiday this year .
Speaker #6: You know , that was part of what we talked about in the last call when we we talked about what we expected to see for Q3 .
Speaker #6: That turned out to be true . There was much lower load in in September than we typically would see . And I think that's just a function of retailers taking a more conservative view .
Speaker #6: You know , going into holiday on where the markets are . And so the benefit that we get on that , obviously , is we'll get replenishments in Q4 here .
Speaker #6: That may have in the past come in in Q3 is as retailers take that replenishment strategy . So we'll keep an eye on those price points .
Speaker #6: And , you know , look for opportunities going into 2026 .
Speaker #11: Thank you . That's helpful . Congrats on the results .
Speaker #6: Thanks , Jack .
Speaker #4: This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Chris Kern for any closing remarks.
Speaker #6: Thank you . Operator . Thank you , everyone , for your interest in Turtle Beach Corp , and have a great day .
Speaker #4: This brings to a close today's conference call . You may disconnect your lines . Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day .