Q1 2026 Nutanix Inc Earnings Call
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Richard Valera: Good afternoon and welcome to today's conference call to discuss first quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results. Joining me today are Rajiv Ramaswami, Nutanix's President and CEO, and Rukmini Sivaraman, Nutanix's CFO. After the market closed today, Nutanix issued a press release announcing first quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results. If you'd like to read the release, please visit the press releases section of our IR website. During today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including financial guidance. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results to differ materially and adversely from those anticipated by these statements. For a more detailed description of these and other risks and uncertainties, please refer to our SEC filings, including our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, as well as our earnings press release issued today.
Richard Valera: Good afternoon and welcome to today's conference call to discuss first quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results. Joining me today are Rajiv Ramaswami, Nutanix's President and CEO, and Rukmini Sivaraman, Nutanix's CFO. After the market closed today, Nutanix issued a press release announcing first quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results. If you'd like to read the release, please visit the press releases section of our IR website. During today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including financial guidance. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results to differ materially and adversely from those anticipated by these statements. For a more detailed description of these and other risks and uncertainties, please refer to our SEC filings, including our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, as well as our earnings press release issued today.
Speaker #2: Call to discuss first quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results. Joining me today are Rajiv Ramaswami, Nutanix's President and CEO, and Rukmini Sivaraman, Nutanix's CFO.
Speaker #2: After the market closed today, Nutanix issued a press release announcing first quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results. We'd like to read the release. Please visit the press releases section of our IR website.
Speaker #2: During today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including financial guidance. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results to differ materially and adversely from those anticipated by these statements.
Speaker #2: For a more detailed description of these and other risks and uncertainties, please refer to our SEC filings, including our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, as well as our earnings press release issued today.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements apply as of today, and we undertake no obligation to revise these. As a result, you should not rely on them as predictions of future statements after this call.
Richard Valera: These forward-looking statements apply as of today, and we undertake no obligation to revise these statements after this call. As a result, you should not rely on them as predictions of future events. Please note that unless otherwise specifically referenced, all financial measures we use on today's call, except for revenue, are expressed on a non-GAAP basis and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. We have provided, to the extent available, reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures on our IR website and in our earnings press release. Nutanix will be participating in the UBS Global Technology and AI Conference in Scottsdale on 1 December 2024, the Raymond James TMT and Consumer Conference in New York on 8 December 2024, and the Barclays Global Technology Conference in San Francisco on 11 December 2024. We hope to see some of you at these events.
These forward-looking statements apply as of today, and we undertake no obligation to revise these statements after this call. As a result, you should not rely on them as predictions of future events. Please note that unless otherwise specifically referenced, all financial measures we use on today's call, except for revenue, are expressed on a non-GAAP basis and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. We have provided, to the extent available, reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures on our IR website and in our earnings press release. Nutanix will be participating in the UBS Global Technology and AI Conference in Scottsdale on 1 December 2024, the Raymond James TMT and Consumer Conference in New York on 8 December 2024, and the Barclays Global Technology Conference in San Francisco on 11 December 2024. We hope to see some of you at these events.
Speaker #2: Events. Please note that unless otherwise specifically referenced, all financial measures we use on today's call, except for revenue, are expressed on a non-GAAP basis and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges.
Speaker #2: We have provided, to the extent available, reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures on our IR website and in our earnings press release.
Speaker #2: Technology and AI Conference in Scottsdale on December 1st, the Raymond James TMT and Consumer Conference in New York on December 8th, and the Barclays Global Technology Conference in San Francisco on December 11th.
Speaker #2: We hope to see some of you at these events. Finally, our second quarter fiscal 2026 quiet period will begin on Monday, January 19.
Richard Valera: Finally, our second quarter fiscal 2026 quiet period will begin on Monday, 19 January 2026. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rajiv. Rajiv?
Finally, our second quarter fiscal 2026 quiet period will begin on Monday, 19 January 2026. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rajiv. Rajiv?
Speaker #2: And with that, I'll turn the call over to Rajiv.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Thank you, Rich, and good afternoon, everyone. In our first quarter, we saw solid demand for our solutions, with bookings that were slightly ahead of our expectations, and continued progress with our partners. However, the solid performance of the business did not translate into revenue within the quarter as previously expected. Late in the quarter, we saw more business than expected, with start dates outside of the quarter. This resulted in some revenue being shifted out of Q1. As we evaluated the impact of this recent change in our business mix on our fiscal 2026 outlook, we now expect to see more revenue deferred than we had previously planned, driving a reduction in our full-year revenue guidance. Rukmini will provide more details on these changes in her comments, but there are a few key points I'd like to make.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Thank you, Rich, and good afternoon, everyone. In our first quarter, we saw solid demand for our solutions, with bookings that were slightly ahead of our expectations, and continued progress with our partners. However, the solid performance of the business did not translate into revenue within the quarter as previously expected. Late in the quarter, we saw more business than expected, with start dates outside of the quarter. This resulted in some revenue being shifted out of Q1. As we evaluated the impact of this recent change in our business mix on our fiscal 2026 outlook, we now expect to see more revenue deferred than we had previously planned, driving a reduction in our full-year revenue guidance. Rukmini will provide more details on these changes in her comments, but there are a few key points I'd like to make.
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Speaker #3: Solid demand for our first quarter, we saw expectations and continued progress. Solutions with bookings that were slightly ahead of our partners. However, the solid performance of the business, thank you, Rich, didn't translate into revenue within the Rajiv?
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Speaker #3: expected. Late in the quarter, we saw more business-than-expected with start dates outside of the being shifted out of Q1. As we evaluated the impact of this recent change in our business quarter.
Speaker #3: See more revenue outlook. We now expect to have good deferred revenue than we had previously. This resulted in some planned revenue being reduced, driving a reduction in our full-year revenue guidance.
Speaker #3: Rukmini will provide more details on these changes in her comments. But there are a few key points I'd like to make. First, our view of the fundamentals of our business and bookings growth expectations for the year remain unchanged.
Rajiv Ramaswami: First, our view of the fundamentals of our business and bookings growth expectations for the year remain unchanged. Second, these changes do not impact our free cash flow expectations for FY26, which we are modestly increasing. Finally, this is solely a timing issue, and the amount of revenue we expect to recognize over time from business booked in FY26 remains unchanged. With that said, in our first quarter, we delivered quarterly revenue of $671 million, which is in our guided range, and grew our ARR 18% year over year to $2.28 billion. We also saw another quarter of healthy new logo additions, and solid free cash flow generation. In Q1, we continue to see success in the marketplace with our cloud platform.
First, our view of the fundamentals of our business and bookings growth expectations for the year remain unchanged. Second, these changes do not impact our free cash flow expectations for FY26, which we are modestly increasing. Finally, this is solely a timing issue, and the amount of revenue we expect to recognize over time from business booked in FY26 remains unchanged. With that said, in our first quarter, we delivered quarterly revenue of $671 million, which is in our guided range, and grew our ARR 18% year over year to $2.28 billion. We also saw another quarter of healthy new logo additions, and solid free cash flow generation. In Q1, we continue to see success in the marketplace with our cloud platform.
Speaker #3: Second, these changes do not impact our free cash flow expectations for FY26, which we are modestly increasing. And finally, this issue and the amount of revenue we expect to recognize over time from business booked in FY26 remains solely a timing unchanged.
Speaker #3: In our first quarter, we achieved $671 million within our guided range and grew our ARR 18% year over year to $2.28 billion.
Speaker #3: We also saw another quarter of healthy new logo additions and solid free cash flow delivered quarterly revenue generation. In Q1, we continued to see success in the marketplace with our cloud platform.
Speaker #3: Our most notable wins, a few of which I'll highlight, demonstrate the appeal of our solution to businesses that are looking to modernize their IT footprints, deploy modern apps and AI, and adopt hybrid multi-cloud operating models.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Our most notable wins, a few of which I'll highlight, demonstrate the appeal of our solution to businesses that are looking to modernize their IT footprints, deploy modern apps and AI, and adopt hybrid multicloud operating models. One of our largest expansion wins was with a North America-based provider of agricultural products and services that was looking for an alternative to their existing three-tier virtualization solution that included a potential future path to public cloud. They chose our Nutanix Cloud Platform to run their mission-critical applications across their global manufacturing and business operations footprint, appreciating the public cloud optionality provided by our Nutanix Cloud Clusters, or NC2, capability. They also chose Nutanix Kubernetes Platform in anticipation of future deployment of modern workloads, as well as Nutanix Cloud Management, and Nutanix Unified Storage.
Our most notable wins, a few of which I'll highlight, demonstrate the appeal of our solution to businesses that are looking to modernize their IT footprints, deploy modern apps and AI, and adopt hybrid multicloud operating models. One of our largest expansion wins was with a North America-based provider of agricultural products and services that was looking for an alternative to their existing three-tier virtualization solution that included a potential future path to public cloud. They chose our Nutanix Cloud Platform to run their mission-critical applications across their global manufacturing and business operations footprint, appreciating the public cloud optionality provided by our Nutanix Cloud Clusters, or NC2, capability. They also chose Nutanix Kubernetes Platform in anticipation of future deployment of modern workloads, as well as Nutanix Cloud Management, and Nutanix Unified Storage.
Speaker #3: One of our largest expansion wins was with a North American agricultural products provider of services that was looking for an alternative to their existing three-tier virtualization solution, which included a potential future path to public cloud.
Speaker #3: Cloud platform to run their mission-critical applications across their global manufacturing. They chose our Nutanix business operations optionality provided by our Nutanix Cloud Clusters, or NC2, capability.
Speaker #3: They also chose the Nutanix Kubernetes platform in anticipation of future deployment of modern workloads, as well as Nutanix Cloud Management and Nutanix Unified Storage. Another example of a new logo win with a customer looking to take advantage of the hybrid platform was a European government agency that was looking for a solution to multi-cloud capabilities to deploy and manage their modern applications across public and private clouds.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Another example of a new logo win with a customer looking to take advantage of the hybrid multicloud capabilities of our platform was a European government agency that was looking for a solution to deploy and manage their modern applications across public and private clouds. They are planning to run their modern applications on our Kubernetes platform on top of NC2 on AWS. We continue to add some of the world's largest companies as new customers in Q1, including a seven-figure Global 2000 new logo with an EMEA-based provider of energy products and services. This customer was looking to implement a comprehensive cybersecurity solution. They chose the Nutanix Cloud Platform to run these security applications, as well as Nutanix Cloud Management for its common management interface, superior ease of use, simple one-click upgrades, and the ability to securely run across multicloud environments.
Another example of a new logo win with a customer looking to take advantage of the hybrid multicloud capabilities of our platform was a European government agency that was looking for a solution to deploy and manage their modern applications across public and private clouds. They are planning to run their modern applications on our Kubernetes platform on top of NC2 on AWS. We continue to add some of the world's largest companies as new customers in Q1, including a seven-figure Global 2000 new logo with an EMEA-based provider of energy products and services. This customer was looking to implement a comprehensive cybersecurity solution. They chose the Nutanix Cloud Platform to run these security applications, as well as Nutanix Cloud Management for its common management interface, superior ease of use, simple one-click upgrades, and the ability to securely run across multicloud environments.
Speaker #3: They are planning to run their modern applications on our Kubernetes platform on top of NC2 on AWS. We continue to add some of the world's largest companies as new customers in Q1.
Speaker #3: Including a seven-figure global 2000 new logo with an EMEA-based provider of energy products and services. This customer was looking to implement a comprehensive cybersecurity solution.
Speaker #3: They chose the Nutanix Cloud platform to run these security applications, as well as Nutanix Cloud Management for its common management interface, superior ease of use, simple one-click upgrades, and the ability to securely run across multi-cloud. They also chose Nutanix Unified Storage for management of their unstructured data.
Speaker #3: ...environments. Finally, a first-quarter new logo highlighted the Gen AI and modern U.S. federal business agency, which was looking to modernize their infrastructure and utilize AI to enhance its effectiveness and application capabilities for our efficiency.
Rajiv Ramaswami: They also chose Nutanix Unified Storage for management of their unstructured data. Finally, a first-quarter new logo in our US federal business highlighted the GenAI and modern application capabilities of our platform. This government agency was looking to modernize their infrastructure and to utilize AI to enhance its effectiveness and efficiency. They chose a full-stack Nutanix solution, including our cloud platform, Nutanix Unified Storage, and Nutanix Database Service, as well as our Nutanix Enterprise AI and Nutanix Kubernetes Platform to support development and deployment of their modern and GenAI applications. Moving on, we also continue to make progress on our initiative to support external storage with our platform, including selling our solution supporting Dell's PowerFlex to another Global 2000 customer in Q1. During this quarter, we also announced that Nutanix plans to support Dell's PowerStore, with general availability expected in the summer of 2026.
They also chose Nutanix Unified Storage for management of their unstructured data. Finally, a first-quarter new logo in our US federal business highlighted the GenAI and modern application capabilities of our platform. This government agency was looking to modernize their infrastructure and to utilize AI to enhance its effectiveness and efficiency. They chose a full-stack Nutanix solution, including our cloud platform, Nutanix Unified Storage, and Nutanix Database Service, as well as our Nutanix Enterprise AI and Nutanix Kubernetes Platform to support development and deployment of their modern and GenAI applications. Moving on, we also continue to make progress on our initiative to support external storage with our platform, including selling our solution supporting Dell's PowerFlex to another Global 2000 customer in Q1. During this quarter, we also announced that Nutanix plans to support Dell's PowerStore, with general availability expected in the summer of 2026.
Speaker #3: They chose a full-stack Nutanix solution, including our cloud platform, Nutanix Unified Storage, Nutanix Database, Nutanix Enterprise AI and Service, as well as our support for the development and deployment of their modern and Gen AI applications.
Speaker #3: Moving on, we also continued to make progress on our initiative to support external storage with our Nutanix Kubernetes platform, selling our solution supporting platform.
Speaker #3: Including Global 2000 customers in Q1. During this quarter, we also announced that Nutanix plans to support Dell's PowerStore, with Dell's PowerFlex to another general availability expected in the summer of 2026.
Speaker #3: And we remain on track to deliver our solution supporting Pure Storage FlashArray within this calendar year. Finally, we continue to receive industry recognition in Q1.
Rajiv Ramaswami: We remain on track to deliver our solution supporting Pure Storage Flash Array within this calendar year. Finally, we continue to receive industry recognition in Q1. Nutanix was named a leader in the 2025 Gartner Magic Quadrant for distributed hybrid infrastructure. Our inclusion in the leaders quadrant, along with several leading public cloud providers, reflects the evolution of our offering to a true hybrid multi-cloud platform. In closing, our business performed solidly in the first quarter, including bookings that were slightly ahead of our expectations, ARR growth of 18% year over year, another healthy quarter of new logo additions, and solid free cash flow performance. The change to our revenue guidance relates solely to the timing of revenue recognition. I believe the fundamentals of our business remain healthy and unchanged. We remain focused on delighting our customers while driving sustainable, profitable growth.
We remain on track to deliver our solution supporting Pure Storage Flash Array within this calendar year. Finally, we continue to receive industry recognition in Q1. Nutanix was named a leader in the 2025 Gartner Magic Quadrant for distributed hybrid infrastructure. Our inclusion in the leaders quadrant, along with several leading public cloud providers, reflects the evolution of our offering to a true hybrid multi-cloud platform. In closing, our business performed solidly in the first quarter, including bookings that were slightly ahead of our expectations, ARR growth of 18% year over year, another healthy quarter of new logo additions, and solid free cash flow performance. The change to our revenue guidance relates solely to the timing of revenue recognition. I believe the fundamentals of our business remain healthy and unchanged. We remain focused on delighting our customers while driving sustainable, profitable growth.
Speaker #3: Nutanix was named a leader in the 2025 Gartner Magic Quadrant for Distributed Hybrid Infrastructure. Our inclusion in the Leaders Quadrant, along with several leading public cloud providers, reflects the evolution of our offering to a true hybrid multi-cloud platform.
Speaker #3: In closing, our business performed solidly in the first quarter. This includes bookings that were slightly ahead of our expectations, Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) growth of 18% year over year, another healthy quarter of new logo additions, and solid free cash flow performance.
Speaker #3: The change to our revenue guidance relates solely to the timing of revenue recognition. I believe the fundamentals of our business remain unchanged. We remain focused on delighting our customers while driving healthy and sustainable, profitable growth.
Speaker #3: And with that, I'll hand it over to Rukmini Sivaraman. Rukmini.
Speaker #3: And with that, I'll hand it over to Rukmini Sivaraman. Rukmini.
Rajiv Ramaswami: With that, I'll hand it over to Rukmini Sivaraman. Rukmini?
With that, I'll hand it over to Rukmini Sivaraman. Rukmini?
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thank you, Rajiv, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I will first discuss our Q1 2026 results, followed by Q2 2026 guidance, and our updated fiscal year 2026 guidance. In Q1, we reported quarterly revenue of $671 million within the guided range of $670 to 680 million, representing a year-over-year growth rate of 13%. While bookings in Q1 were slightly ahead of our expectations, we saw a larger-than-expected proportion of land and expand bookings with future start dates late in the quarter, resulting in a shift of some revenue from Q1 into future periods. As a reminder, under US GAAP, revenue recognition generally begins when the license starts, which means bookings with future start dates shift revenue recognition into later periods, even though cash collection may occur earlier. This is solely timing-related and does not change the overall revenue expected to be recognized over time.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thank you, Rajiv, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I will first discuss our Q1 2026 results, followed by Q2 2026 guidance, and our updated fiscal year 2026 guidance. In Q1, we reported quarterly revenue of $671 million within the guided range of $670 to 680 million, representing a year-over-year growth rate of 13%. While bookings in Q1 were slightly ahead of our expectations, we saw a larger-than-expected proportion of land and expand bookings with future start dates late in the quarter, resulting in a shift of some revenue from Q1 into future periods. As a reminder, under US GAAP, revenue recognition generally begins when the license starts, which means bookings with future start dates shift revenue recognition into later periods, even though cash collection may occur earlier. This is solely timing-related and does not change the overall revenue expected to be recognized over time.
Speaker #2: You, Rajiv. And thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I will first discuss our Q1 2026 results, followed by Q2 2026 guidance and our updated fiscal year 2026 guidance.
Speaker #2: In Q1, we reported quarterly revenue of $671 million, within the guidance range of $670 to $680 million, representing a year-over-year growth rate of 13%.
Speaker #2: Q1 were slightly ahead of our expectations. While bookings were in line with expectations, we saw a larger than expected proportion of land and expand bookings with future start dates late in the quarter, resulting in a shift of some revenue from Q1 into future periods.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, under U.S. GAAP, revenue recognition generally begins when the license starts. This means bookings with future start dates shift revenue recognition into later periods, even though cash collection may occur earlier.
Speaker #2: This is solely timing-related and does not change the overall revenue expected to be recognized over time. If land-and-expand bookings had come in with the proportion of future start dates that we had assumed, Q1 revenue would have been above the high end of the guided range.
Rukmini Sivaraman: If land and expand bookings had come in with the proportion of future start dates that we had assumed, Q1 revenue would have been above the high end of the guided range. ARR at the end of Q1 was $2.284 billion, representing year-over-year growth of 18%. NRR, or net dollar-based retention rate, at the end of Q1 was 109%, flat quarter over quarter. Note that this ARR and NRR are under our updated methodology that started with Q1 2026, as previously discussed on our last earnings call. In Q1, average contract duration was 3.1 years. Non-GAAP gross margin in Q1 was 88%. Non-GAAP operating margin in Q1 was 19.7%, towards the lower end of our guided range of 19.5% to 20.5%, primarily due to lower revenue.
If land and expand bookings had come in with the proportion of future start dates that we had assumed, Q1 revenue would have been above the high end of the guided range. ARR at the end of Q1 was $2.284 billion, representing year-over-year growth of 18%. NRR, or net dollar-based retention rate, at the end of Q1 was 109%, flat quarter over quarter. Note that this ARR and NRR are under our updated methodology that started with Q1 2026, as previously discussed on our last earnings call. In Q1, average contract duration was 3.1 years. Non-GAAP gross margin in Q1 was 88%. Non-GAAP operating margin in Q1 was 19.7%, towards the lower end of our guided range of 19.5% to 20.5%, primarily due to lower revenue.
Speaker #2: ARR at the end of Q1 was $2.284 billion, representing year-over-year growth of 18%. NRR, or net dollar-based retention rate, at the end of Q1 was 109%, flat quarter over quarter.
Speaker #2: Note that this ARR and NRR are under our updated methodology that started with Q1 2026, as previously discussed on our last earnings call. In Q1, the average contract duration was 3.1 years.
Speaker #2: Non-GAAP gross margin in Q1 was 88%. Non-GAAP operating margin in Q1 was 19.7%, towards the lower end of our guided range of 19.5% to 20.5%, primarily due to lower revenue.
Speaker #2: Non-GAAP net income in Q1 was $121 million, or fully diluted EPS of $0.41 per share, based on fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 297 million shares.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Non-GAAP net income in Q1 was $121 million, or fully diluted EPS of $0.41 per share, based on fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 297 million shares. GAAP net income and fully diluted GAAP EPS in Q1 were $62 million and $0.21 per share, respectively. Free cash flow in Q1 was $175 million, representing a free cash flow margin of 26%. Moving to the balance sheet, we ended Q1 with cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments of $2.062 billion, up from $1.993 billion at the end of Q4. Moving to capital allocation, in Q1, we repurchased $50 million worth of common stock under our existing share repurchase authorization, and used about $89 million of cash to retire shares related to our employees' tax liability for their quarterly RSU vesting. Both of these helped to manage share dilution.
Non-GAAP net income in Q1 was $121 million, or fully diluted EPS of $0.41 per share, based on fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 297 million shares. GAAP net income and fully diluted GAAP EPS in Q1 were $62 million and $0.21 per share, respectively. Free cash flow in Q1 was $175 million, representing a free cash flow margin of 26%. Moving to the balance sheet, we ended Q1 with cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments of $2.062 billion, up from $1.993 billion at the end of Q4. Moving to capital allocation, in Q1, we repurchased $50 million worth of common stock under our existing share repurchase authorization, and used about $89 million of cash to retire shares related to our employees' tax liability for their quarterly RSU vesting. Both of these helped to manage share dilution.
Speaker #2: GAAP net income and fully diluted GAAP EPS in Q1 were $62 million and $21 per share, respectively. Free cash flow in Q1 was $175 million, representing a free cash flow margin of 26%.
Speaker #2: Moving to the balance sheet, we ended Q1 with cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments of $2.062 billion, up from $1.993 billion at the end of Q4.
Speaker #2: Moving to capital allocation in Q1, we repurchased $50 million worth of common stock under our existing share repurchase authorization and used about $89 million of cash to retire shares related to our employees' tax liability for their quarterly RSU vesting. Both of these helped to manage share dilution.
Speaker #2: Moving to guidance, our guidance for Q2 2026 is as follows: revenue of $705 million to $715 million, non-GAAP operating margin of 20.5% to 21.5%, and fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 296 million shares.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Moving to guidance, our guidance for Q2 2026 is as follows: revenue of $705 to $715 million, non-GAAP operating margin of 20.5% to 21.5%, fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 296 million shares. Moving to the full year, our updated guidance for fiscal year 2026 is as follows: revenue of $2.82 to 2.86 billion, representing a year-over-year growth rate of 12% at the midpoint of the range, non-GAAP operating margin of 21% to 22%, same as our prior guide despite the lower revenue guide, free cash flow of $800 to 840 million, an increase from our prior guidance and representing a free cash flow margin of 28.9% at the midpoint. I will now provide some additional context regarding our fiscal year 2026 guidance. First, as Rajiv mentioned, it is important to note that our full-year bookings growth expectations remain unchanged relative to our last earnings call.
Moving to guidance, our guidance for Q2 2026 is as follows: revenue of $705 to $715 million, non-GAAP operating margin of 20.5% to 21.5%, fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 296 million shares. Moving to the full year, our updated guidance for fiscal year 2026 is as follows: revenue of $2.82 to 2.86 billion, representing a year-over-year growth rate of 12% at the midpoint of the range, non-GAAP operating margin of 21% to 22%, same as our prior guide despite the lower revenue guide, free cash flow of $800 to 840 million, an increase from our prior guidance and representing a free cash flow margin of 28.9% at the midpoint. I will now provide some additional context regarding our fiscal year 2026 guidance. First, as Rajiv mentioned, it is important to note that our full-year bookings growth expectations remain unchanged relative to our last earnings call.
Speaker #2: Moving to the full year, our updated guidance for fiscal year 2026 is as follows: revenue of $2.82 to $2.86 billion, representing a year-over-year growth rate of 12% at the midpoint of the range.
Speaker #2: Non-GAAP operating margin of 21% to 22%, the same as our prior guidance, despite the lower revenue guidance. Free cash flow of $800 million to $840 million, an increase from our prior guidance, representing a free cash flow margin of 28.9% at the midpoint.
Speaker #2: I will now provide some additional context regarding our Fiscal Year 26 guidance. First, as Rajiv mentioned, it is important to note that our full year bookings growth expectations remain unchanged relative to our last earnings call.
Speaker #2: We are also pleased to raise our free cash flow guidance for the full year. However, as we saw late in Q1, we are seeing that the timing of conversion of bookings into revenue is evolving with our business.
Rukmini Sivaraman: We are also pleased to raise our free cash flow guidance for the full year. However, as we saw late in Q1, we are seeing that the timing of conversion of bookings into revenue is evolving with our business. We believe this is due to a couple of factors, including: one, increased customer demand for greater flexibility to start licenses aligned with their adoption timelines, resulting in more bookings with future start dates; and two, the growing proportion of our business through our third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partners ship an appliance. As a result, we now expect more revenue to shift from fiscal year 2026 into future periods, while the total amount of revenue recognized over time remains unchanged. Second, a note on seasonality.
We are also pleased to raise our free cash flow guidance for the full year. However, as we saw late in Q1, we are seeing that the timing of conversion of bookings into revenue is evolving with our business. We believe this is due to a couple of factors, including: one, increased customer demand for greater flexibility to start licenses aligned with their adoption timelines, resulting in more bookings with future start dates; and two, the growing proportion of our business through our third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partners ship an appliance. As a result, we now expect more revenue to shift from fiscal year 2026 into future periods, while the total amount of revenue recognized over time remains unchanged. Second, a note on seasonality.
Speaker #2: We believe this is due to a couple of factors, including, one, increased customer demand for greater flexibility to start licenses aligned with their adoption timelines.
Speaker #2: Resulting in more bookings with future start dates. And, two, the growing proportion of our business through our third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partners ship an appliance.
Speaker #2: As a result, we now expect more revenue to shift from fiscal year 2026 into future periods, while the total amount of revenue recognized over time remains unchanged.
Speaker #2: Second, a note on seasonality. We expect the quarter-over-quarter revenue trend from Q2 to Q3 to be similar to what we saw last year in fiscal year 2025.
Rukmini Sivaraman: We expect the quarter-over-quarter revenue trend from Q2 to Q3 to be similar to what we saw last year in fiscal year 2025. Third, we continue to balance prudent investments for continued growth, with a focus on efficiencies and expanding margins over time. This is reflected in our updated operating margin and free cash flow guidance for the full year. In closing, we believe the underlying value of our business remains unchanged. Demand and bookings expectations are unchanged. Our free cash flow outlook is higher. Revenue expected to be unchanged over time, but starting later. Our guidance philosophy is unchanged. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
We expect the quarter-over-quarter revenue trend from Q2 to Q3 to be similar to what we saw last year in fiscal year 2025. Third, we continue to balance prudent investments for continued growth, with a focus on efficiencies and expanding margins over time. This is reflected in our updated operating margin and free cash flow guidance for the full year. In closing, we believe the underlying value of our business remains unchanged. Demand and bookings expectations are unchanged. Our free cash flow outlook is higher. Revenue expected to be unchanged over time, but starting later. Our guidance philosophy is unchanged. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #2: Third, we continue to balance prudent investments for continued growth with a focus on efficiencies and expanding margins over time. This is reflected in our updated operating margin and free cash flow guidance for the full year.
Speaker #2: In closing, we believe the underlying value of our business remains unchanged. Demand and bookings expectations are unchanged. Our free cash flow outlook is higher.
Speaker #2: Revenue is expected to be unchanged over time, but starting later. Our guidance philosophy is unchanged. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
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Speaker #2: It comes from Matt Hedberg with RBC Capital.
Speaker #2: Markets. Hey,
Simran Disvalon: Hey, guys. This is Simran Disvalon for Matt Hedberg. Thanks for taking a question. Just to start with NRR, this was flat quarter over quarter. Would you be able to speak a bit more to these dynamics? I know last quarter you had mentioned that the average deal sizes growing for new logos could be a headwind to the growth rate of expansions. How should we think about new logos versus expansions this quarter and throughout 2026?
Simran Disvalon: Hey, guys. This is Simran Disvalon for Matt Hedberg. Thanks for taking a question. Just to start with NRR, this was flat quarter over quarter. Would you be able to speak a bit more to these dynamics? I know last quarter you had mentioned that the average deal sizes growing for new logos could be a headwind to the growth rate of expansions. How should we think about new logos versus expansions this quarter and throughout 2026?
Speaker #3: Guys, this is Simran Deswalon for Matt Hedberg. Thanks for taking a question. So just to start with NRR, this was flat quarter-over-quarter. Would you be able to speak a bit more to these dynamics?
Speaker #3: I know last quarter you had mentioned that the average deal sizes growing for new logos could be a headwind to the growth rate of expansions.
Speaker #3: So how should we think about new logos versus expansions this quarter and throughout?
Speaker #3: 2026? Yeah.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Hi, Simran. I can take that. On NRR, we had talked about, as you said, some puts and takes there where new logos generally do not affect NRR directly. If you think of all the components that add up to our ARR growth, the first one is good retention, making sure we are retaining as many of our customers as we can. There is this expansion component, which is reflected in NRR. The third element is new logos, which then add to make up the full ARR number. New logos, in general, do not affect NRR. I think the point we had made in the past was that as our average deal sizes for new logos have gone up over time, potentially in some customers, we might be doing a complete migration of their estate onto the Nutanix platform, even at the get-go.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Hi, Simran. I can take that. On NRR, we had talked about, as you said, some puts and takes there where new logos generally do not affect NRR directly. If you think of all the components that add up to our ARR growth, the first one is good retention, making sure we are retaining as many of our customers as we can. There is this expansion component, which is reflected in NRR. The third element is new logos, which then add to make up the full ARR number. New logos, in general, do not affect NRR. I think the point we had made in the past was that as our average deal sizes for new logos have gone up over time, potentially in some customers, we might be doing a complete migration of their estate onto the Nutanix platform, even at the get-go.
Speaker #4: Hi, Simran. I can take that. So on NRR, we had talked about, as you said, some puts and takes there where we knew logos generally don't affect NRR directly.
Speaker #4: Because if you think of all the components that add up to our ARR growth, the first one is good retention—making sure we're retaining as many of our customers as we can.
Speaker #4: And then there is this expansion component, which is reflected in NRR. And then the third element is new logos, which then add to make up the full ARR number.
Speaker #4: So, new logos in general don't affect NRR. I think the point we had made in the past was that as our average deal sizes for new logos have gone up over time, potentially in some customers, we might be doing a complete migration of their estate onto the Nutanix platform, even at the get-go.
Speaker #4: And that doesn't happen all the time, to be clear, right? There are bigger customers where it will be a migration over time. We talked about that a little bit in the prepared remarks as well.
Rukmini Sivaraman: That does not happen all the time, to be clear, right? There are bigger customers where it will be a migration over time. We talked about that a little bit in the prepared remarks as well. There are puts and takes here. Overall, we saw the NRR for Q1, as reported, stabilized. It was flat quarter over quarter.
That does not happen all the time, to be clear, right? There are bigger customers where it will be a migration over time. We talked about that a little bit in the prepared remarks as well. There are puts and takes here. Overall, we saw the NRR for Q1, as reported, stabilized. It was flat quarter over quarter.
Speaker #4: So, there are puts and takes here. Overall, we saw the NRR for Q1 as reported stabilize; it was flat.
Speaker #3: Okay. Okay. Got it. And then could you also provide a little bit more color on the Fed? How did it perform relative to expectations 90 days ago, and what was the impact of the government?
Simran Disvalon: Okay. Got it. Could you also provide a little bit more color on Fed? How did it perform relative to expectations 90 days ago, and the impact of the government shutdown?
Simran Disvalon: Okay. Got it. Could you also provide a little bit more color on Fed? How did it perform relative to expectations 90 days ago, and the impact of the government shutdown?
Speaker #3: shutdown? Yeah.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Thank you. Let me talk a little bit about US Fed. First, I'll say as a reminder, we don't report US federal as a percent of our business, just to give people an idea. What we have said is that US Fed has been 10% or less of our annual revenue, with the seasonal strength, of course, seen in our fiscal Q1, the quarter that we just reported, which is Fed's fiscal year end. In this Q1 specifically, our US Fed business saw a double-digit year-over-year growth, admittedly, off of a relatively easy comparison last Q1. We saw nice growth there. Going forward, we continue to expect a higher-than-historical level of variability in the US Fed business, given recent personnel changes, some policy changes. Of course, we just came out of the government shutdown. Given all of that, we expect some variability there.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Thank you. Let me talk a little bit about US Fed. First, I'll say as a reminder, we don't report US federal as a percent of our business, just to give people an idea. What we have said is that US Fed has been 10% or less of our annual revenue, with the seasonal strength, of course, seen in our fiscal Q1, the quarter that we just reported, which is Fed's fiscal year end. In this Q1 specifically, our US Fed business saw a double-digit year-over-year growth, admittedly, off of a relatively easy comparison last Q1. We saw nice growth there. Going forward, we continue to expect a higher-than-historical level of variability in the US Fed business, given recent personnel changes, some policy changes. Of course, we just came out of the government shutdown. Given all of that, we expect some variability there.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Let me talk a little bit about the U.S. Federal sector. As a reminder, we don't report U.S. Federal as a percent of our business, just to give people an idea.
Speaker #4: But what we have said is that US Fed has been 10% or less of our annual revenue, with the seasonal strength, of course, seen in our fiscal Q1, the quarter that we just reported.
Speaker #4: Which is the Fed's fiscal year-end? In this Q1 specifically, our US Fed business saw double-digit year-over-year growth off of an admittedly relatively easy comparison last Q1.
Speaker #4: But we saw nice growth there. Going forward, we continue to expect a higher-than-historical level of variability in the U.S. Fed business, given recent personnel changes, some policy changes, and of course, we just came out of the government shutdown.
Speaker #4: So given all of that, we expect some variability there. But overall, we remain optimistic about the opportunity for this business to benefit from our platform's focus on modernization and lowering TCO, which we believe, TCO being total cost of ownership, is well aligned with government objectives as well.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Overall, we remain optimistic on the opportunity for this business to benefit from our platform's focus on modernization and lowering TCO, which we believe, TCO being total cost of ownership, is well aligned with the government objectives as well. We have factored sort of all of this into our Q2 and updated fiscal year 2026 guidance. We have factored this overall uncertainty into the updated guidance.
Overall, we remain optimistic on the opportunity for this business to benefit from our platform's focus on modernization and lowering TCO, which we believe, TCO being total cost of ownership, is well aligned with the government objectives as well. We have factored sort of all of this into our Q2 and updated fiscal year 2026 guidance. We have factored this overall uncertainty into the updated guidance.
Speaker #4: And we have factored sort of all of this into our Q2 and updated fiscal year 2026 guidance. We have factored this overall uncertainty into the updated.
Speaker #4: guidance. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Okay. Great. Thank you.
Simran Disvalon: Okay. Great. Thank you.
Simran Disvalon: Okay. Great. Thank you.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thank you.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from the line of James Fish with BCPSC. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of James Fish with BSC. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of James Fish with BSC. Please proceed.
Speaker #5: Hey, guys. Look, let's get right to the point here. If bookings came in better than expected, and granted, it's apples and oranges slightly, why did RPO bookings that I'm happy that you guys are finally talking about RPO because I think it's a more meaningful metric.
James Fish: Hey, guys. Look, let's get right to the point here. If bookings came in better than expected, and granted, it's apples and oranges slightly, why did RPO bookings—I'm happy that you guys are finally talking about RPO because I think it's a more meaningful metric—why did RPO bookings themselves only 6%? Can you guys help us with what that bookings growth rate was? Rukmini, if it really shifted out of fiscal Q1, why does it seem that so much is pushed into fiscal Q4? If I look at your commentary here of seasonality, it means we have a pretty large ramp into fiscal Q4 versus fiscal Q3 then. Help us out here.
James Fish: Hey, guys. Look, let's get right to the point here. If bookings came in better than expected, and granted, it's apples and oranges slightly, why did RPO bookings—I'm happy that you guys are finally talking about RPO because I think it's a more meaningful metric—why did RPO bookings themselves only 6%? Can you guys help us with what that bookings growth rate was? Rukmini, if it really shifted out of fiscal Q1, why does it seem that so much is pushed into fiscal Q4? If I look at your commentary here of seasonality, it means we have a pretty large ramp into fiscal Q4 versus fiscal Q3 then. Help us out here.
Speaker #5: But why did RPO bookings themselves only grow by 6%? Can you guys help us with what that bookings growth rate was? And Rukmini, if it really shifted out of fiscal Q1, why does it seem that so much is pushed into fiscal Q4?
Speaker #5: Because if I look at seasonality, it means we have a pretty large ramp into fiscal Q4 versus fiscal Q3 then.
Speaker #5: So help us out
Speaker #5: here. Hi, Jim.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Hi, Jim. Yeah, thank you for those questions. As you pointed out, we've started this quarter providing RPO, remaining performance obligations, in our earnings release when before we were providing them in our filings, in our 10Qs and Ks. We believe that this is an additional relevant metric because, Jim, as you, I think, are alluding to, RPO captures bookings activity in the period that is expected to be future revenue. It includes deferred revenue, which, of course, is also on the balance sheet, and it also includes non-cancelable backlogs. Those are the components of RPO. I'll also remind folks that RPO is a TCV, or a total contract value-based metric. It has all of the revenue, meaning it has duration as well, as opposed to ARR, which is an annualized metric.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Hi, Jim. Yeah, thank you for those questions. As you pointed out, we've started this quarter providing RPO, remaining performance obligations, in our earnings release when before we were providing them in our filings, in our 10Qs and Ks. We believe that this is an additional relevant metric because, Jim, as you, I think, are alluding to, RPO captures bookings activity in the period that is expected to be future revenue. It includes deferred revenue, which, of course, is also on the balance sheet, and it also includes non-cancelable backlogs. Those are the components of RPO. I'll also remind folks that RPO is a TCV, or a total contract value-based metric. It has all of the revenue, meaning it has duration as well, as opposed to ARR, which is an annualized metric.
Speaker #4: Yeah, thank you for those questions. As you pointed out, we've started this quarter providing RPO (Remaining Performance Obligations) in our earnings release, whereas before we were providing them in our filings, specifically in our 10-Qs and 10-Ks.
Speaker #4: We believe that this is an additional relevant metric because Jim, as you are alluding to, RPO captures bookings activity in the period that is expected to be future revenue.
Speaker #4: And it includes deferred revenue, which of course is also on the balance sheet, and it also includes non-cancellable backlogs. Those are the components of RPO.
Speaker #4: I'll also remind folks that RPO is a TCV or a total contract value-based metric. And so it is it has all of the revenue, meaning it has duration as well as opposed to ARR, which is an annualized metric.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Now, to your question, Jim, on RPO and why we saw a small decline in our backlog component, which is part of the RPO or subset of RPO, in our first fiscal quarter. I would say that's consistent with our historic seasonality if you look at sort of what backlog does. There's a small component that is not visible, which is non-cancelable backlog. That is a smaller—sorry, cancelable backlog, which is a smaller proportion. That also typically does translate into revenue. Overall, look at RPO. We are pleased with overall year-over-year growth in RPO, which is 26% in Q1. Your second question, Jim, I think, was on the seasonality point. When we look at the full year, what I would say is we still see a mix that is similar to what we've seen in fiscal year 2025 last year, for example.
Now, to your question, Jim, on RPO and why we saw a small decline in our backlog component, which is part of the RPO or subset of RPO, in our first fiscal quarter. I would say that's consistent with our historic seasonality if you look at sort of what backlog does. There's a small component that is not visible, which is non-cancelable backlog. That is a smaller—sorry, cancelable backlog, which is a smaller proportion. That also typically does translate into revenue. Overall, look at RPO. We are pleased with overall year-over-year growth in RPO, which is 26% in Q1. Your second question, Jim, I think, was on the seasonality point. When we look at the full year, what I would say is we still see a mix that is similar to what we've seen in fiscal year 2025 last year, for example.
Speaker #4: Jim, now to your point on RPO and why we saw a small part of the RPO, a subset of RPO, in our first fiscal quarter. I would say that's consistent with our historic seasonality if you look at sort of what backlog does.
Speaker #4: And then there's a small component that is not visible, which is the non-cancellable backlog. The cancellable backlog is a smaller proportion.
Speaker #4: And so that also typically does translate into revenue. So overall, looking at RPO, we're pleased with the overall year-over-year growth in RPO, which is 26% in Q1.
Speaker #4: Your second question, Jim, I think, was on the seasonality point. So when we look at the full year, what I would say is we still see a mix that is similar to what we've seen in fiscal year '25 last year, for example.
Speaker #4: So if you look at fiscal year '25, our revenue mix for the first half versus the second half was 49% to 51%. For '26, the updated guidance we just gave you at the midpoints of Q2 and full year is just a touch more weighted towards the second half.
Rukmini Sivaraman: If you look at fiscal year 2025, our revenue mix first half versus second half was 49%, 51%. For 2026, the updated guidance we just gave you at the midpoints of Q2 and full year, it's just a touch more weighted towards second half. It's not meaningfully different from what we saw last year.
If you look at fiscal year 2025, our revenue mix first half versus second half was 49%, 51%. For 2026, the updated guidance we just gave you at the midpoints of Q2 and full year, it's just a touch more weighted towards second half. It's not meaningfully different from what we saw last year.
Speaker #4: So it's not meaningfully different from what we saw last.
Speaker #4: year. Okay.
James Fish: Got it. I think anyone that's been following you guys for a while will recall the timeframe when it was out of your control, the supply chain issues a few years ago that led to what we all call push-outs. Can you walk us through in terms of what you're seeing that's similar versus different on how we should think about this sort of push-out timeframe? Thanks.
Speaker #5: Got it. And then I think anyone that's been following you guys for a while will recall the timeframe when it was out of your control, the supply chain issues a few years ago that led to what we all call push-outs.
James Fish: Got it. I think anyone that's been following you guys for a while will recall the timeframe when it was out of your control, the supply chain issues a few years ago that led to what we all call push-outs. Can you walk us through in terms of what you're seeing that's similar versus different on how we should think about this sort of push-out timeframe? Thanks.
Speaker #5: So, can you walk us through, in terms of what you're seeing that's similar versus different, how we should think about this sort of push-out timeframe?
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Speaker #4: Yeah. So why don't I start on that, Jim, and then I'd welcome Rajiv to add in here as well. And maybe, Jim, it's a broad question, right?
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Why don't I start on that, Jim, and then I welcome Rajiv to add in here as well. Maybe, Jim, it's a broad question, right? I'll start with first maybe broadly talking about three relevant factors that are related to the recent dynamics that we see in our land and expand business specifically. First, with the growth of Broadcom migrations, we're finding that these customers want to commit to us but often need more flexibility to help them match their license deployments with their migration timelines. We have seen some of this in the past, as noted in prior earnings calls, although the impact then was minimal relative to our expectations.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Why don't I start on that, Jim, and then I welcome Rajiv to add in here as well. Maybe, Jim, it's a broad question, right? I'll start with first maybe broadly talking about three relevant factors that are related to the recent dynamics that we see in our land and expand business specifically. First, with the growth of Broadcom migrations, we're finding that these customers want to commit to us but often need more flexibility to help them match their license deployments with their migration timelines. We have seen some of this in the past, as noted in prior earnings calls, although the impact then was minimal relative to our expectations.
Speaker #4: So I'll start with, first, maybe broadly talking about three relevant recent dynamics that we see in our landscape factors that are related to the descent and expansion business specifically.
Speaker #4: So, first, with the growth of Broadcom migrations, we're finding that these customers want to commit to us but often need more flexibility to help them match their license deployments with their migration timelines.
Speaker #4: We have seen some of this in the past. As noted in prior earnings calls, although the impact then was minimal relative to our expectations.
Speaker #4: We saw this become pronounced late in Q1, and we now expect this trend to continue, which is why we're expecting more revenue than previously expected to be shifted out of '26 and into future periods.
Rukmini Sivaraman: We saw this become pronounced late in Q1, and we now expect this trend to continue, which is why we're expecting more revenue than previously expected to be shifted out of 2026 and into future periods. That was the primary factor in the Q1 revenue performance. The second one is a growing proportion of our business is coming through our third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partners ship an appliance. Third, and perhaps more directly to your question, Jim, we don't believe supply chain shortages or longer lead times were a meaningful driver of the revenue performance in Q1. However, based on what we have been hearing anecdotally about component shortages, and the potential for longer lead times, we believe supply chain tightness could impact the business going forward.
We saw this become pronounced late in Q1, and we now expect this trend to continue, which is why we're expecting more revenue than previously expected to be shifted out of 2026 and into future periods. That was the primary factor in the Q1 revenue performance. The second one is a growing proportion of our business is coming through our third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partners ship an appliance. Third, and perhaps more directly to your question, Jim, we don't believe supply chain shortages or longer lead times were a meaningful driver of the revenue performance in Q1. However, based on what we have been hearing anecdotally about component shortages, and the potential for longer lead times, we believe supply chain tightness could impact the business going forward.
Speaker #4: That was the primary factor in the Q1 revenue performance. The second one is that a growing proportion of our business is coming through our third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partners ship an appliance.
Speaker #4: Third, and perhaps more directly to your question, Jim, we don't believe supply chain shortages or longer lead times were a meaningful driver of the revenue performance in Q1.
Speaker #4: However, based on what we have been hearing anecdotally about component shortages and the potential for longer lead times, we believe supply chain tightness could impact the business going forward.
Speaker #4: So, we believe now that we have more refined insights based on recent trends on orders with future start dates, partners' shipping timelines, and the extent to which these factors impact the timing of revenue.
Rukmini Sivaraman: We believe now that we have more refined insights based on recent trends on orders with future start dates, partners shipping timelines, and the extent to which these factors impact timing of revenue. With all that said, I'd like to reinforce a few important points or reiterate a few important points that we said in the prepared remarks. We believe the underlying value of our business remains unchanged. Demand and booking expectations for the year are unchanged. Free cash flow outlook is higher. Revenue is expected to be unchanged over time, but starting later. Our guidance philosophy is unchanged. Rajiv, anything you would add to that?
We believe now that we have more refined insights based on recent trends on orders with future start dates, partners shipping timelines, and the extent to which these factors impact timing of revenue. With all that said, I'd like to reinforce a few important points or reiterate a few important points that we said in the prepared remarks. We believe the underlying value of our business remains unchanged. Demand and booking expectations for the year are unchanged. Free cash flow outlook is higher. Revenue is expected to be unchanged over time, but starting later. Our guidance philosophy is unchanged. Rajiv, anything you would add to that?
Speaker #4: Now, with all that said, I'd like to reinforce a few important points or reiterate a few important points that we discussed in the prepared remarks.
Speaker #4: We believe the underlying value of our business remains unchanged. Demand and booking expectations for the year are unchanged. Free cash flow outlook is higher.
Speaker #4: Revenue is expected to be unchanged over time, but starting later. And our guidance philosophy is unchanged. Rajiv, anything you would add to that?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Let me provide a bit more color on the supply chain aspect. I think you covered all the other aspects well, Rukmini. So, on the supply chain, as you said, I mean, we didn't believe that supply chain constraints were a meaningful factor in our Q1 results.
Richard Valera: Yeah. Let me provide a bit more color on the supply chain aspect. I think you covered all the other aspects well, Rukmini. On the supply chain, as you said, I mean, we didn't believe that supply chain constraints were a meaningful factor in our Q1 results. As we all know, there is a big, massive AI build-out being done by a handful of large companies. That has the potential, and it seems to be starting to cause supply shortages in the industry. Now, we don't see this directly, but we are hearing anecdotally about component shortages and the potential for long lead times. This could impact our land and expand business going forward. Renewables aren't affected. We are monitoring this closely, and we have factored in a modest tightening of the supply chain into our updated outlook.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Yeah. Let me provide a bit more color on the supply chain aspect. I think you covered all the other aspects well, Rukmini. On the supply chain, as you said, I mean, we didn't believe that supply chain constraints were a meaningful factor in our Q1 results. As we all know, there is a big, massive AI build-out being done by a handful of large companies. That has the potential, and it seems to be starting to cause supply shortages in the industry. Now, we don't see this directly, but we are hearing anecdotally about component shortages and the potential for long lead times. This could impact our land and expand business going forward. Renewables aren't affected. We are monitoring this closely, and we have factored in a modest tightening of the supply chain into our updated outlook.
Speaker #2: But as we all know, there is a big, massive AI buildout being done by a handful of large companies, and that has the potential—and it seems to be starting—to cause supply shortages in the industry.
Speaker #2: Now, we don't see this directly, but we are hearing anecdotally about component shortages and the potential for long lead times. Now, this could impact our land-and-expand business going forward; renewables aren't affected.
Speaker #2: So, we are monitoring this closely, and we have factored in a modest tightening of the supply chain into our updated outlook. Now, again, in terms of looking at the supply chain per se, while we don't control the supply chain ourselves, we have done a few things to help mitigate supply chain issues.
Richard Valera: Now, again, in terms of looking at the supply chain per se, while again, we don't control the supply chain ourselves, we have done a few things to help mitigate supply chain issues. I'll say three things there, four things, actually. First is we do have more server partners now than we've had in the past. Notably, we've added Cisco as a server partner. Our customers have a choice of server vendors to pick from, and they can do that based on who's got the best supply. Second, we have continued to expand our hardware compatibility list so that we can include more existing server configurations that customers have already deployed to run our infrastructure. If they're, for example, looking to get rid of their existing software and putting our software on, we can run that more on the existing hardware that they've deployed.
Now, again, in terms of looking at the supply chain per se, while again, we don't control the supply chain ourselves, we have done a few things to help mitigate supply chain issues. I'll say three things there, four things, actually. First is we do have more server partners now than we've had in the past. Notably, we've added Cisco as a server partner. Our customers have a choice of server vendors to pick from, and they can do that based on who's got the best supply. Second, we have continued to expand our hardware compatibility list so that we can include more existing server configurations that customers have already deployed to run our infrastructure. If they're, for example, looking to get rid of their existing software and putting our software on, we can run that more on the existing hardware that they've deployed.
Speaker #2: I'll say three things there, four things actually. First, we do have more server partners now than we've had in the past. Notably, we've added Cisco.
Speaker #2: As a server partner, our customers have a choice of server vendors to pick from, and they can do that based on who's got the best supply.
Speaker #2: Second, we have continued to expand our hardware compatibility list so that we can include more existing server configurations that customers have already deployed to run our infrastructure.
Speaker #2: If they're, for example, looking to get it to their existing software and putting our software on, we can run that more on the existing hardware that they've deployed.
Speaker #2: Third, we've also added additional external storage options, such as Dell and soon Pure Storage, that mitigate the need for customers to purchase new hardware to run our software.
Richard Valera: Third, we've also added additional external storage options, such as Dell and, soon, Pure Storage, that mitigate the need for customers to purchase new hardware to run our software. Finally, we also have more offerings in the public cloud, including now NC2 on Google Cloud, our Kubernetes offerings, etc. These are all, I think, the overall set of things that we are doing on our end to provide broader applicability of our software across different hardware.
Third, we've also added additional external storage options, such as Dell and, soon, Pure Storage, that mitigate the need for customers to purchase new hardware to run our software. Finally, we also have more offerings in the public cloud, including now NC2 on Google Cloud, our Kubernetes offerings, etc. These are all, I think, the overall set of things that we are doing on our end to provide broader applicability of our software across different hardware.
Speaker #2: And finally, we also have more offerings in the public cloud, including now NC2 on Google Cloud, our Kubernetes offerings, etc. So these are all, I think, the overall set of things that we are doing on our end to provide broader applicability of our software across different.
Speaker #2: hardware. One moment for our
Operator: One moment for our next question, please. It comes from Matthew Martino with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed.
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Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks for taking my questions. First one for me: on the revenue that slipped from Q1 into future periods, how much of that was tied to customer-requested future start dates versus OEM shipment timing versus simple deal slippage?
James Fish: Yeah. Thanks for taking my questions. First one for me, on the revenue that slipped from Q1 into future periods, how much of that was tied to customer-requested future start dates versus OEM shipment timing versus simple deal slippage? I guess, what evidence more broadly do you have that this is timing only rather than emerging demand softness? I have a follow-up.
Matthew Martino: Yeah. Thanks for taking my questions. First one for me, on the revenue that slipped from Q1 into future periods, how much of that was tied to customer-requested future start dates versus OEM shipment timing versus simple deal slippage? I guess, what evidence more broadly do you have that this is timing only rather than emerging demand softness? I have a follow-up.
Speaker #5: And I guess what evidence, more broadly, do you have that this is timing only rather than emerging demand softness? And I have a follow-up.
Speaker #4: Hi, Matt. Thanks for the question. Let me start. So in Q1, the revenue performance in Q1, I think I want to be clear, was primarily related to the proportion of orders that we saw with these future start dates.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Hi, Matt. Thanks for the question. Let me start. In Q1, the revenue performance in Q1, I think I want to be clear, was primarily related to the proportion of orders that we saw with these future start dates. As we said, bookings in Q1 were ahead of what we had expected going in. It is that bookings view, Matt, that gives us what we were alluding to when we said that, look, we have seen bookings come in Q1, in fact, slightly ahead of what we had planned. Our view for the full year on bookings also remains unchanged from before. The primary factor of Q1 revenue coming where it did, which was within the range. As we said, if those proportions had come in as we had assumed, it would have been above the high end of the range.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Hi, Matt. Thanks for the question. Let me start. In Q1, the revenue performance in Q1, I think I want to be clear, was primarily related to the proportion of orders that we saw with these future start dates. As we said, bookings in Q1 were ahead of what we had expected going in. It is that bookings view, Matt, that gives us what we were alluding to when we said that, look, we have seen bookings come in Q1, in fact, slightly ahead of what we had planned. Our view for the full year on bookings also remains unchanged from before. The primary factor of Q1 revenue coming where it did, which was within the range. As we said, if those proportions had come in as we had assumed, it would have been above the high end of the range.
Speaker #4: And as we said, bookings in Q1 were ahead of what we had expected going in. And so it's that bookings view, Matt, that gives us that we were alluding to when we said that, look, we have seen bookings to come in Q1, in fact, slightly ahead of what we had planned.
Speaker #4: And our view for the full year on bookings also remains unchanged from before. But the primary factor of the range, and as we said, if those Q1 revenues had come in as we had assumed, which was within proportions, it would have been above the high end of the.
Speaker #5: Got it. And then for a follow-up, just given the commentary on deal recognition landing in later periods, I mean, how should we think about the duration and the timing there as we kind of think about framing our models for fiscal 27, kind of given the commentary that you expect unchanged bookings growth, but a delay in that
James Fish: Got it. For a follow-up, just given the commentary on deal recognition landing in later periods, I mean, how should we think about the duration and the timing there as we kind of think about framing our models for fiscal 2027, kind of given the commentary that you expect unchanged bookings growth, but a delay in that rubber rack?
Matthew Martino: Got it. For a follow-up, just given the commentary on deal recognition landing in later periods, I mean, how should we think about the duration and the timing there as we kind of think about framing our models for fiscal 2027, kind of given the commentary that you expect unchanged bookings growth, but a delay in that rubber rack?
Speaker #5: rhetoric? Yeah.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. When we think about '27, I think it's part of your question, Matt, which is what does this change for '26 imply for fiscal year '27, if I were to paraphrase your question? Look, we've given you our view of revenue for this year. Revenue growth in '27 is, as in any year, dependent on three factors: business deferred from '26 into '27, business booked in '27, and then how much we book in '27 that might get deferred into future years. There's a net effect that, as you can see, along with actual bookings performance itself in '27. We look forward to providing more color on that, really anything beyond fiscal year '26 during our investor day in April, Matt.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. When we think about '27, I think it's part of your question, Matt, which is what does this change for '26 imply for fiscal year '27, if I were to paraphrase your question? Look, we've given you our view of revenue for this year. Revenue growth in '27 is, as in any year, dependent on three factors: business deferred from '26 into '27, business booked in '27, and then how much we book in '27 that might get deferred into future years. There's a net effect that, as you can see, along with actual bookings performance itself in '27. We look forward to providing more color on that, really anything beyond fiscal year '26 during our investor day in April, Matt.
Speaker #4: So when we think about 27, I think it's part of your question, Matt, which is what is this change for 27, if I were to paraphrase your 26 implied for fiscal year question.
Speaker #4: Look, we've given you our view this year. Revenue growth in 2027 is, as in any year, dependent on three factors: business deferred from 2026 into 2027, business booked in 2027, and then how much we book in 2027 that might get deferred into future years.
Speaker #4: Net effect that, as you can see, along with actual bookings performance itself in Q1 2026, we look forward to providing more color on that.
Speaker #4: Really, anything beyond fiscal year 2026 during our Investor Day in April, Matt.
Speaker #2: There's the only thing I'll add to that, Rukmini, in terms of the demand side of this equation. You talked about, of course, bookings coming in slightly ahead of expectations.
Richard Valera: The only thing I'll add to that, Rukmini, in terms of the demand side of this equation, you talked about, of course, bookings coming in slightly ahead of expectations. The other thing you could look at, Matt, also is the fact that our cash flow is fine, right? In fact, we're actually slightly taking up our free cash flow guide, and we're still collecting cash on all those bookings, mostly upfront.
Rajiv Ramaswami: The only thing I'll add to that, Rukmini, in terms of the demand side of this equation, you talked about, of course, bookings coming in slightly ahead of expectations. The other thing you could look at, Matt, also is the fact that our cash flow is fine, right? In fact, we're actually slightly taking up our free cash flow guide, and we're still collecting cash on all those bookings, mostly upfront.
Speaker #2: The other thing you could look at, Matt, is the fact that our cash flow is fine, right? In fact, we're actually slightly taking up our free cash flow guide.
Speaker #2: And we're still collecting cash on all those bookings, mostly
Speaker #2: upfront. One moment for our next
Operator: One moment for our next question. That is from Sameek Chatterjee with JPMorgan. Please proceed.
Operator: One moment for our next question. That is from Sameek Chatterjee with JPMorgan. Please proceed.
Speaker #1: Question. That is from Sameek Chatterjee with JP Morgan. Please proceed.
Speaker #6: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. This is MP on behalf of Sameek Chatterjee from JP Morgan. I just wanted to ask about the customer spending plans, like we have seen.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Hi. Thanks for taking my question. This is MP on behalf of Sameek Chatterjee from JPMorgan. I just wanted to ask on the customer spending plans, like we have seen hardware costs particularly impacted by the increased component costs. Does that in any way impact the overall propensity of customers in terms of spending towards IT? Also, if you could help us understand FY2026 guide adjusted for the timing issues.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan Chase & Co.): Hi. Thanks for taking my question. This is MP on behalf of Sameek Chatterjee from JPMorgan. I just wanted to ask on the customer spending plans, like we have seen hardware costs particularly impacted by the increased component costs. Does that in any way impact the overall propensity of customers in terms of spending towards IT? Also, if you could help us understand FY2026 guide adjusted for the timing issues.
Speaker #6: Hardware costs, particularly impacted by the increased component costs, do they in any way impact the overall propensity of customers in terms of spending towards IT?
Speaker #6: And also, if you could help us understand FY26 guide adjusted for the timing
Speaker #6: issues. So I'll talk
Richard Valera: I'll talk about the first one. I mean, look, we talked about the supply chain. I think, look, I mean, hardware, again, prices could change. Prices could go up. Lead times could go up. Like I said, our approach is to provide fundamentally to provide more diversification to customers so they can try and arbitrate amongst all the hardware providers and be providing the broadest flexibility to run our platform, right, run our software on as many hardware platforms as they can. That's our approach of dealing with the hardware issues. We don't control the hardware directly, right? Now, to your question, we haven't seen any drop in demand in terms of customers saying, yeah, prices have gone up, therefore, we are not going to buy as much. We haven't seen that at this point at all.
Rajiv Ramaswami: I'll talk about the first one. I mean, look, we talked about the supply chain. I think, look, I mean, hardware, again, prices could change. Prices could go up. Lead times could go up. Like I said, our approach is to provide fundamentally to provide more diversification to customers so they can try and arbitrate amongst all the hardware providers and be providing the broadest flexibility to run our platform, right, run our software on as many hardware platforms as they can. That's our approach of dealing with the hardware issues. We don't control the hardware directly, right? Now, to your question, we haven't seen any drop in demand in terms of customers saying, yeah, prices have gone up, therefore, we are not going to buy as much. We haven't seen that at this point at all.
Speaker #2: about the first one. I mean, we talked about the supply chain. I think look, I mean, hardware again, prices could change. Prices could go up.
Speaker #2: Lead times could go up. And like I said, our approach is to provide fundamentally to provide more diversification to customers. So they can try and arbitrate amongst all the hardware providers.
Speaker #2: we provide the broadest flexibility to run our platform, right, on run our software And provide on as many hardware platforms as they can. That's our approach of dealing with the hardware issues.
Speaker #2: We don't control the hardware directly, right? Now, we have it to your question. We haven't seen any drop in demand in terms of customers saying, "Oh, yeah, prices have gone up."
Speaker #2: Therefore, we are not going to buy as much, so we haven't seen that at this point at all. Rukmini, do you want to talk about the...
Richard Valera: Rukmini, you want to talk about the guide?
Rukmini, you want to talk about the guide?
Speaker #4: Yeah. So I think the question was for the
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yes. I think the question was for the full year 2026 guide, what would it have been if not for the timing of revenue? I think a reasonable starting point to look at that is what we had guided last quarter, which was $2.9 to 2.94 billion. Our current guide is $2.82 to 2.86 billion. As I said, the reason for that is we're expecting more revenue than previously expected to shift out of fiscal year 2026. The factors, like we talked about, right, one is the fact that more customers want to commit to us but are looking for more flexibility to help them match their migration timelines when they need licenses from us. Second is the growing proportion of our business that's coming through third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partners ship an appliance.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yes. I think the question was for the full year 2026 guide, what would it have been if not for the timing of revenue? I think a reasonable starting point to look at that is what we had guided last quarter, which was $2.9 to 2.94 billion. Our current guide is $2.82 to 2.86 billion. As I said, the reason for that is we're expecting more revenue than previously expected to shift out of fiscal year 2026. The factors, like we talked about, right, one is the fact that more customers want to commit to us but are looking for more flexibility to help them match their migration timelines when they need licenses from us. Second is the growing proportion of our business that's coming through third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partners ship an appliance.
Speaker #4: full year 26 guide, guide? what would it have been if not for the timing of revenue? And look, I think a reasonable starting point to look at that is what we had guided last quarter.
Speaker #4: Which was 29 to 294. And our current guide is 282 to 286. And as I said, the reason for that is we're expecting more revenue than previously expected to shift out of fiscal year 26.
Speaker #4: And the factors, like we talked about, right, one is the fact that more customers want to commit to us but are looking for more flexibility to help them match their migration timelines with when they need licenses from us.
Speaker #4: Second, there is a growing proportion of our business that's coming through third-party OEM partners, for which we only recognize revenue when our partnership and appliance are established.
Speaker #4: And the third one, which we really haven't seen thus far, was not a meaningful factor in Q1 revenue, is that some of the supply chain shortages and longer lead times, which we're starting to hear about anecdotally, and which you alluded to as.
Rukmini Sivaraman: The third one, which we really haven't seen thus far, it was not a meaningful factor in Q1 revenue, is that some of the supply chain shortages or longer lead times, which we're starting to hear about anecdotally, and which you alluded to as well.
The third one, which we really haven't seen thus far, it was not a meaningful factor in Q1 revenue, is that some of the supply chain shortages or longer lead times, which we're starting to hear about anecdotally, and which you alluded to as well.
Speaker #4: well. Thank
Speaker #6: So any follow-up question would be: have you seen any increased competitiveness across the space over the last 90 days or something?
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Thank you. My follow-up question would be, have you seen any increased competitiveness across the space over the last 90 days or something, overall view around the competitive environment?
[Analyst] (JPMorgan Chase & Co.): Thank you. My follow-up question would be, have you seen any increased competitiveness across the space over the last 90 days or something, overall view around the competitive environment?
Speaker #6: Overall view around the competitive environment?
Speaker #2: I would say nothing has changed, really, on that front. We're seeing the same set of competitors as we've always competed with. And we really haven't seen any major change in the dynamics like I said, I think the migration that we're seeing customers do onto our platform, right?
Richard Valera: I would say nothing has changed really on that front. We're seeing the same set of competitors as we've always competed with. We really haven't seen any major change in the dynamics. Like I said, I think the migration that we're seeing customers do onto our platform, right, I mean, they tend to be staged over time, right? It's not everything coming in upfront. We're seeing, as we see more of those migrations, as Rukmini explained, I think that's driving the customers to need more flexible start dates, right, in terms of when they actually want to activate their licenses so that they can activate those whenever they're ready to actually do the actual migration. That, I think, is what we've seen. The competitive side of the equation really hasn't changed.
Rajiv Ramaswami: I would say nothing has changed really on that front. We're seeing the same set of competitors as we've always competed with. We really haven't seen any major change in the dynamics. Like I said, I think the migration that we're seeing customers do onto our platform, right, I mean, they tend to be staged over time, right? It's not everything coming in upfront. We're seeing, as we see more of those migrations, as Rukmini explained, I think that's driving the customers to need more flexible start dates, right, in terms of when they actually want to activate their licenses so that they can activate those whenever they're ready to actually do the actual migration. That, I think, is what we've seen. The competitive side of the equation really hasn't changed.
Speaker #2: I mean, they tend to be staged over time, right? It's not everything coming in upfront. And we're seeing, as we see more of those migrations, as Rukmini explained, I think that's driving the customers to need more flexible start dates, right, in terms of when they actually want to activate their licenses so that they can activate those whenever they're ready to actually do the actual migration.
Speaker #2: So that, I think, is what we've seen. And I don't think the competitive side of the equation really hasn't.
Speaker #2: changed.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Thank you.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan Chase & Co.): Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank
Speaker #4: you.
Speaker #4: you.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thank you.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next Mohan with Bank of America. Please
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Wamzi Mohan with Bank of America. Please proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Wamsi Mohan with Bank of America. Please proceed.
Speaker #1: proceed. Hi.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Hi, it's Simran filling in for Wamzi today. I have two questions, one for Rajiv. When you look at the rest of fiscal 2026, how do you see the pipeline of large deals and the impact from that? You talked about a growing proportion of revenue from the third-party OEM partners. Rajiv, what percent of revenue this year is coming from those third-party OEMs? Can you give us any updated expectations for revenue from Dell and Cisco specifically? I have a follow-up for Rukmini.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan Chase & Co.): Hi, it's Simran filling in for Wamsi today. I have two questions, one for Rajiv. When you look at the rest of fiscal 2026, how do you see the pipeline of large deals and the impact from that? You talked about a growing proportion of revenue from the third-party OEM partners. Rajiv, what percent of revenue this year is coming from those third-party OEMs? Can you give us any updated expectations for revenue from Dell and Cisco specifically? I have a follow-up for Rukmini.
Speaker #6: I have two questions. One for Rajiv: When you look at the rest of fiscal 2026, how do you see the pipeline of large deals and the impact from that?
Speaker #6: And you talked about a growing proportion of revenue from the third-party OEM partners. So Rajiv, what percent of revenue this year is coming from those third-party OEMs?
Speaker #6: And can you give us any updated expectations for revenue from Dell and Cisco specifically? And I have a follow-up.
Speaker #2: Okay. So first on the large deals, second on the OEMs. Look, I think we continue to see our share of large deals. At any point in time, we have a pipeline where we have a good number of large deals with this uncertain timing.
Richard Valera: Okay. First on the large deals, second on the OEMs. I think we continue to see our share of large deals. At any point in time, we have a pipeline where we have a good number of large deals with this uncertain timing. When you have these larger deals, it takes longer to really prosecute them and a little less clear about when, right? We do not factor in all those deals into a forecast, but some likelihood of some subset of them hitting. I would say we are seeing quite a good mix, right? We are seeing we did more million-dollar deals last year than the prior years. We probably will do more this year as well as we go through the year. It is still early in the year.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Okay. First on the large deals, second on the OEMs. I think we continue to see our share of large deals. At any point in time, we have a pipeline where we have a good number of large deals with this uncertain timing. When you have these larger deals, it takes longer to really prosecute them and a little less clear about when, right? We do not factor in all those deals into a forecast, but some likelihood of some subset of them hitting. I would say we are seeing quite a good mix, right? We are seeing we did more million-dollar deals last year than the prior years. We probably will do more this year as well as we go through the year. It is still early in the year.
Speaker #2: And when you have these deals, larger deals, it takes longer to really prosecute them. And it’s a little less clear about when, right? So we don't factor in all those deals into a forecast about some likelihood of some subset of them hitting.
Speaker #2: I would say we're seeing quite a good mix, right? We did more million-dollar deals last year than the prior year. We probably will do more this year as well as we go through the year.
Speaker #2: It's still early in the year, so we certainly have a pipeline of several deals out there that we are currently working on.
Richard Valera: We certainly have the pipeline of several deals out there that we are working currently on that front. Now, on the OEM side, I will say that we haven't broken it down yet in terms of what percentage of our revenue is coming from it, but it's clearly growing, right? Cisco has now been out there for a while, and they're continuing to ramp along nicely. Dell is still early in that life cycle. I think as we've now got PowerFlex on, we will have PowerStore on sometime next summer. In general, our alignment with Dell is getting better. I would expect that to continue also growing. We've also had historically Lenovo, although they're a smaller OEM partner, that's been there for a while, and it's business as usual on that front.
We certainly have the pipeline of several deals out there that we are working currently on that front. Now, on the OEM side, I will say that we haven't broken it down yet in terms of what percentage of our revenue is coming from it, but it's clearly growing, right? Cisco has now been out there for a while, and they're continuing to ramp along nicely. Dell is still early in that life cycle. I think as we've now got PowerFlex on, we will have PowerStore on sometime next summer. In general, our alignment with Dell is getting better. I would expect that to continue also growing. We've also had historically Lenovo, although they're a smaller OEM partner, that's been there for a while, and it's business as usual on that front.
Speaker #2: On that front. Now, on the OEM side, I will say that we haven't broken it down yet in terms of what percentage of our revenue is coming from it.
Speaker #2: But it's clearly growing, right? Cisco has now been out there for a while. And they're continuing to ramp along nicely. Dell is still early in that life cycle.
Speaker #2: But I think as we've now got power flex on, we will have power store on sometime next summer. And so in general, our alignment with Dell is getting better.
Speaker #2: And so I would expect that to continue also growing and we've also had historically Lenovo, although they were smaller OEM partner, that's been there for a while.
Speaker #2: And it's business as usual on that front. But I would say I expect the mix of Cisco and Dell both to grow for us over time.
Richard Valera: I would say I would expect the mix of Cisco and Dell both to grow for us over time. We haven't quantified it yet.
I would say I would expect the mix of Cisco and Dell both to grow for us over time. We haven't quantified it yet.
Speaker #2: We haven't quantified it
Speaker #2: yet. Okay.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Okay. Thanks for the details there, Rajiv. Rukmini, one for you. Sounds like there's a structural change in the business where more bookings going forward will have future start dates. I guess the first thing is, what is giving you that confidence that this is a permanent change and not something just specific to the near term or fiscal 2026? Am I reading this correct, that this is a structural change? The second part of this question is on slide 10, it says that you're going to balance prudent investments for continued growth with a focus on margins, and you're keeping free cash flow more or less the same, up $10 million at the midpoint. Is there any risk that investing less now can hurt future revenue growth in outer years? If you can just comment on that.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan Chase & Co.): Okay. Thanks for the details there, Rajiv. Rukmini, one for you. Sounds like there's a structural change in the business where more bookings going forward will have future start dates. I guess the first thing is, what is giving you that confidence that this is a permanent change and not something just specific to the near term or fiscal 2026? Am I reading this correct, that this is a structural change? The second part of this question is on slide 10, it says that you're going to balance prudent investments for continued growth with a focus on margins, and you're keeping free cash flow more or less the same, up $10 million at the midpoint. Is there any risk that investing less now can hurt future revenue growth in outer years? If you can just comment on that.
Speaker #6: Thanks for the details there, Rajiv. Rukmini, one for you. Sounds like there's a structural change in the business where more bookings going forward will have future start dates.
Speaker #6: I guess the first thing is, what is giving you that confidence that this is a permanent change and not something just specific to the near term or fiscal 2026?
Speaker #6: Reading this, is it correct that this is a structural change? And then, part of this question is on slide 10. It says that you're going to balance prudent investments for continued growth with a focus on margins.
Speaker #6: And you're keeping free cash flow more or less same up 10 million at the midpoint. Is there any risk that investing less now can hurt future revenue growth in outer years?
Speaker #6: So if you can, that.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Thank you, Rukmini. On the first point you made in terms of the changed future start dates and why we think it's going to continue, one thing we said earlier was that one of the factors we think that's driving this, right, the primary factor has been sort of this growth in Broadcom migrations. We're finding that these customers, they want to commit with us. They often need more flexibility, though, to help them match their migration timelines and so on. That dynamic, as we've talked about for a while, we expect those migrations to be sort of a multi-year journey for us and so on. We're always looking to balance customer needs with our own business goals, and we'll continue to do that.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Thank you, Rukmini. On the first point you made in terms of the changed future start dates and why we think it's going to continue, one thing we said earlier was that one of the factors we think that's driving this, right, the primary factor has been sort of this growth in Broadcom migrations. We're finding that these customers, they want to commit with us. They often need more flexibility, though, to help them match their migration timelines and so on. That dynamic, as we've talked about for a while, we expect those migrations to be sort of a multi-year journey for us and so on. We're always looking to balance customer needs with our own business goals, and we'll continue to do that.
Speaker #4: Ruklu. So on the first point you Yeah. Thank you, made in terms of the changed future start dates and why we think it's going to continue, one thing we said earlier was that one of the factors we think that's growth in Broadcom migrations.
Speaker #4: driving this, right, the primary factor has been sort of this And we're finding that these customers, they want to commit with us. They often need more flexibility, though, to help them match their migration timelines and so on.
Speaker #4: And so that dynamic, as we've talked about for a while, we expect those migrations to be sort of a multi-year journey for us. And so on.
Speaker #4: And we're always looking to balance customer needs with our own business goals, and so we'll continue to do that. The reality, though, is for some of these migrations, typically the larger ones, where the customer might say, "Look, I need these licenses over time," rather than all upfront, depending on their own migration timeline.
Rukmini Sivaraman: The reality, though, is for some of these migrations, typically the larger ones, where the customer might say, look, I need these licenses over time rather than all upfront, depending on their own migration timeline. That's the underlying dynamic around that. Second, to your question around we're keeping margins, the same margin guidance, the same operating margin guidance, the same as before, while we've taken revenue down relative to before. Same on free cash flow. I think we'll take free cash flow up slightly, I think, relative to what we told you last quarter. A few things I'll say, right? On the operating margin side, we do want to balance those two things, which is continuing to invest, investing prudently in growth, while looking to grow margins over time. I will say a few things on this.
The reality, though, is for some of these migrations, typically the larger ones, where the customer might say, look, I need these licenses over time rather than all upfront, depending on their own migration timeline. That's the underlying dynamic around that. Second, to your question around we're keeping margins, the same margin guidance, the same operating margin guidance, the same as before, while we've taken revenue down relative to before. Same on free cash flow. I think we'll take free cash flow up slightly, I think, relative to what we told you last quarter. A few things I'll say, right? On the operating margin side, we do want to balance those two things, which is continuing to invest, investing prudently in growth, while looking to grow margins over time. I will say a few things on this.
Speaker #4: So that's the underlying dynamic around that. Second to your question regarding our margin guidance, we're keeping the same operating margin guidance as before.
Speaker #4: While we've taken revenue down relative to before, and the same on free cash flow, I think when we take free cash flow up slightly, I think relative to what we told you last quarter.
Speaker #4: So a few things I’ll say, right? On the operating margin side, we do want to balance those two things: continuing to invest, investing prudently in growth, while looking to grow margins over time.
Speaker #4: I will say a few things on this. So, one is with revenue getting deferred or shifted out of Q1 2026, there's some commission expense that gets deferred with that.
Rukmini Sivaraman: One is with revenue getting deferred or shifted out of 2026, there's some commission expense that gets deferred with that. We're also seeing slightly higher partner payments, these non-recurring partner payments we've talked about before. They're slightly higher than what we had assumed when we gave you the guide three months ago. Overall, we're always looking to manage the business efficiently, right? When I think about all of that, we feel good about the balance between investments and growth. Again, on free cash flow, the one other factor I'll say on free cash flow is that while we're seeing this more revenue shift out of 2026, we still typically invoice on bookings and collect cash upfront regardless of when the license deployments occur. That's another thing to keep in mind when you think about free cash flow and cash collections.
One is with revenue getting deferred or shifted out of 2026, there's some commission expense that gets deferred with that. We're also seeing slightly higher partner payments, these non-recurring partner payments we've talked about before. They're slightly higher than what we had assumed when we gave you the guide three months ago. Overall, we're always looking to manage the business efficiently, right? When I think about all of that, we feel good about the balance between investments and growth. Again, on free cash flow, the one other factor I'll say on free cash flow is that while we're seeing this more revenue shift out of 2026, we still typically invoice on bookings and collect cash upfront regardless of when the license deployments occur. That's another thing to keep in mind when you think about free cash flow and cash collections.
Speaker #4: We're also seeing slightly higher partner payments. These non-recurring partner payments we've talked about before are slightly higher than what we had assumed when we gave you the guide three months ago.
Speaker #4: And then overall, we're always looking to manage the business efficiently, right? So when I think about all of that, we feel good about the balance between investments and growth.
Speaker #4: And then again, on free cash flow, the one other factor I'll say on free cash flow is that while we're seeing this more revenue shift out of Q2, we still typically invoice on bookings and collect cash upfront, regardless of when the license deployment occurred.
Speaker #4: So that's another thing to keep in mind when you think about free cash flow and cash collections.
Speaker #2: Let Let me add one more thing, Rukmini. Sorry on that business, I think one element of it is structural, which front. So when you talk about a structural change to the is more of our business is going through our OEMs.
Richard Valera: Let me add one more thing, Rukmini. Sorry, on that front. When you talk about the structural change for the business, I think one element of it is structural, which is more of our business is going through our OEMs like Cisco and Dell. There is a structural aspect of that in the sense that in that case, what we do is we give them our software, and then they put it along with their hardware. They create an appliance kind of model, and then they sell that, right? For us, fundamentally, at that point, we only recognize revenue when they ship, right? We do not recognize revenue when we just provide the software to them, but only when they ship to their customers. That, I think, we do expect that side of the business to continue growing, right?
Rajiv Ramaswami: Let me add one more thing, Rukmini. Sorry, on that front. When you talk about the structural change for the business, I think one element of it is structural, which is more of our business is going through our OEMs like Cisco and Dell. There is a structural aspect of that in the sense that in that case, what we do is we give them our software, and then they put it along with their hardware. They create an appliance kind of model, and then they sell that, right? For us, fundamentally, at that point, we only recognize revenue when they ship, right? We do not recognize revenue when we just provide the software to them, but only when they ship to their customers. That, I think, we do expect that side of the business to continue growing, right?
Speaker #2: Like Cisco and Dell. And there is a structural aspect of that in the sense that in that case, what we do is we give them our software.
Speaker #2: And then they put it along with their hardware. They create an appliance kind of model, and then they sell that, right? And so for us, fundamentally, at that point, we only recognize revenue when they ship, right?
Speaker #2: We don't recognize revenue when we just provide the software to them, but only when they ship to their customers. So, I think we do expect that side of the business to continue growing, right?
Speaker #2: And that means that from the time we get a booking to the time that they we could get revenue for that, I think is going to be fundamentally delayed, right?
Richard Valera: That means that from the time we get a booking to the time that we could get revenue for that, I think, is going to be fundamentally delayed, right? The more the mix, the more of that we'll see.
That means that from the time we get a booking to the time that we could get revenue for that, I think, is going to be fundamentally delayed, right? The more the mix, the more of that we'll see.
Speaker #2: And so the more the mix the more of that we'll see.
Speaker #6: Okay. Okay. Thanks for all the details.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Okay. Thank you for all the details.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan Chase & Co.): Okay. Thank you for all the details.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Ruklu.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thanks, Ruklu.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thanks, Ruklu.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Nihal Chakshi with Northland Capital Markets. Please.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Nihal Chokshi with Northland Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Nihal Chokshi with Northland Capital Markets. Please proceed.
Speaker #1: proceed. Thank
Speaker #7: you. I do have a couple of questions. First one, Rukmini said that bookings came in ahead of expectations. Did you actually state how much were bookings up on our year-to-year
Nihal Chokshi: Thank you. I do have a couple of questions. First one, Rukmini, you said that bookings came in ahead of expectations. Did you actually state how much were bookings up on a year-to-year basis?
Nihal Chokshi: Thank you. I do have a couple of questions. First one, Rukmini, you said that bookings came in ahead of expectations. Did you actually state how much were bookings up on a year-to-year basis?
Speaker #7: basis? We did not, Nihal.
Rukmini Sivaraman: We did not. Nihal, we don't typically report or give you specifics on bookings, so we did not call that out specifically.
Rukmini Sivaraman: We did not. Nihal, we don't typically report or give you specifics on bookings, so we did not call that out specifically.
Speaker #4: We don't typically report or give you specifics on bookings. So we did not call that out specifically.
Speaker #7: Okay. And so that's why you were talking about the different components of bookings, those being RPO and cancelable orders as well.
Nihal Chokshi: Okay. That's why you were talking about the different components of bookings, those being RPO and countable orders as well then. Is that correct?
Nihal Chokshi: Okay. That's why you were talking about the different components of bookings, those being RPO and countable orders as well then. Is that correct?
Speaker #7: correct? Yeah.
Speaker #4: So, just to be clear, right? RPO captures a lot of things. RPO has deferred revenue, which is obviously coming as a waterfall from prior periods as well.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yes, just to be clear, RPO captures a lot of things. RPO has deferred revenue, which is obviously coming as a waterfall from prior periods as well. The majority of deferred is support, that will be part of our business. Then there's some that's licenses that are coming from prior quarters, and that's the proportion that's increasing. We also have in RPO, the other component of RPO is non-cancellable backlog. What I think, what I was answering the prior question or the one before earlier from Jim, I think, was around the fact that RPO does give you a sense of what is expected revenue in future periods. We give you CRPO as well, which is next 12 months that is coming off of either the balance sheet or from this non-cancellable backlog.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yes, just to be clear, RPO captures a lot of things. RPO has deferred revenue, which is obviously coming as a waterfall from prior periods as well. The majority of deferred is support, that will be part of our business. Then there's some that's licenses that are coming from prior quarters, and that's the proportion that's increasing. We also have in RPO, the other component of RPO is non-cancellable backlog. What I think, what I was answering the prior question or the one before earlier from Jim, I think, was around the fact that RPO does give you a sense of what is expected revenue in future periods. We give you CRPO as well, which is next 12 months that is coming off of either the balance sheet or from this non-cancellable backlog.
Speaker #4: The majority of deferred is support, a ratable piece of our business. And then there's some that's licenses that are coming from prior quarters. And that's the proportion that's increasing.
Speaker #4: And then we also have in RPO, the other component of RPO is non-cancellable backlog. And what I think what I was answering the prior question or the one before earlier from Jim, I think was around the fact that RPO does give you a sense of what is expected revenue in future periods.
Speaker #4: CRPO as well, which is next 12 months. We give you that is coming off of either the balance sheet or from this non-cancellable backlog.
Rukmini Sivaraman: It does give you, embedded in there, some proportion of the bookings that we had in Q1 but did not yield revenue in Q1.
It does give you, embedded in there, some proportion of the bookings that we had in Q1 but did not yield revenue in Q1.
Speaker #4: there is some proportion of the bookings that we had in So it does give you there is embedded in Q1 but did not yield revenue in Q1.
Speaker #7: Okay. Cancellable backlog, though, that you had said something about cancellable backlog in one of the other questions. What did you actually specifically...
Nihal Chokshi: Okay. Countable backlog, though, we had said something about countable backlog in one of the other questions. What did you actually specifically say about that?
Nihal Chokshi: Okay. Countable backlog, though, we had said something about countable backlog in one of the other questions. What did you actually specifically say about that?
Speaker #7: say about that?
Speaker #4: Yeah. I was just saying
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah, I was just saying that there's a small component of countable backlog relative to the RPO number. It's small. We don't put that out, but also, eventually, most of it does turn to revenue over time.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah, I was just saying that there's a small component of countable backlog relative to the RPO number. It's small. We don't put that out, but also, eventually, most of it does turn to revenue over time.
Speaker #4: Cancellable backlog relative to that there's a small component of RPO number. It's small. That we don't put out. But that's also, eventually, most of it does turn to revenue over time.
Speaker #7: Understood. Okay. Rajiv, for you, in your best estimate, what market share do you think Nutanix is picking up from VMware migrations?
Nihal Chokshi: Understood. Okay. Rajiv, for you, in your best estimate, what market share do you think Nutanix is picking up of VMware migrations?
Nihal Chokshi: Understood. Okay. Rajiv, for you, in your best estimate, what market share do you think Nutanix is picking up of VMware migrations?
Speaker #2: Look, that's a little hard to estimate, right? I mean, if you look at the customers who are doing the migrations, the choices are us, Red Hat, and then I would say public cloud, which is, I would say, a minority.
Richard Valera: Look, that's a little hard to estimate, right? I mean, if you look at the customers who are doing the migrations, I mean, the choices are us, Red Hat, and then I would say public cloud, which is, I would say, a minority, right? I can give you some qualitative colors. Quantitatively, it's very hard for us to really say. I would say, look, the proof of the pudding is we've got 2,700 customers plus who we added last year, and we added another 640 or so this quarter as well on top of that. Those are all customers who are doing migrations. Perhaps the one that might be pertinent is Red Hat, right? If you look at it, I think we are winning a good chunk of business compared to Red Hat in terms of these customers migrating.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Look, that's a little hard to estimate, right? I mean, if you look at the customers who are doing the migrations, I mean, the choices are us, Red Hat, and then I would say public cloud, which is, I would say, a minority, right? I can give you some qualitative colors. Quantitatively, it's very hard for us to really say. I would say, look, the proof of the pudding is we've got 2,700 customers plus who we added last year, and we added another 640 or so this quarter as well on top of that. Those are all customers who are doing migrations. Perhaps the one that might be pertinent is Red Hat, right? If you look at it, I think we are winning a good chunk of business compared to Red Hat in terms of these customers migrating.
Speaker #2: Right? And I can give you some qualitative color quantitatively, it's very hard for us to really say. I would say, look, I mean, the proof of the pudding is we've got 2,700 customers plus who we added last year.
Speaker #2: And we added another solid 640 or so this quarter as well on top of that. And those are all customers who are doing migrations.
Speaker #2: Perhaps the one that might be pertinent is Red Hat, right? If you look at it, I think we are winning a good chunk of business compared to Red Hat in terms of these customers migrating.
Speaker #2: Red Hat tends to be playing primarily where containerization is the main thing. Our platform is very solid when it comes to virtualization, the ability to run mission-critical workloads, and the flexibility to provide both virtualization solutions as well as container solutions.
Richard Valera: Red Hat tends to be playing primarily where containerization is the main thing. Our platform is very solid when it comes to virtualization, the ability to run mission-critical workload, and the flexibility to provide both virtualization solutions, as well as container solutions. We see some significant wins, some of which are public, right? Take Finanz Informatik as an example. Large bank in Germany, all the regional banks. For example, they had IBM and Red Hat, significant existing deployments. Of course, big VMware shop, and they're migrating their VMware workloads over to Nutanix. That's just one example of a win. I don't have an exact quantification to your question on the number, by the way, but we do believe we are winning a significant portion of those migrations.
Red Hat tends to be playing primarily where containerization is the main thing. Our platform is very solid when it comes to virtualization, the ability to run mission-critical workload, and the flexibility to provide both virtualization solutions, as well as container solutions. We see some significant wins, some of which are public, right? Take Finanz Informatik as an example. Large bank in Germany, all the regional banks. For example, they had IBM and Red Hat, significant existing deployments. Of course, big VMware shop, and they're migrating their VMware workloads over to Nutanix. That's just one example of a win. I don't have an exact quantification to your question on the number, by the way, but we do believe we are winning a significant portion of those migrations.
Speaker #2: And we see some significant wins, some of which are public, right? So take finance informatics as an example: a large bank in Germany or the regional banks, and for example, they had IBM and Red Hat significant existing deployments.
Speaker #2: And of course, big VMware shop. And they're migrating their VMware workloads over to Nutanix. And that's just one example of a win. So I don't have an exact quantification to your question on the number, by the way.
Speaker #2: But we do believe we are winning a significant portion of those migrations.
Speaker #7: Okay. And then with respect to this container versus NICS environment, is it fair to say that increasingly organizations are looking for the modernized container-only solution?
Nihal Chokshi: Okay. With respect to this container versus mix environment, is it fair to say that increasingly organizations are looking for the modernized container-only solution, or is it more organizations are looking for a mixed solution?
Nihal Chokshi: Okay. With respect to this container versus mix environment, is it fair to say that increasingly organizations are looking for the modernized container-only solution, or is it more organizations are looking for a mixed solution?
Speaker #7: Or is it more organizations are looking for a mixed solution?
Richard Valera: Most companies that we talk to, most customers that we talk to have a mix, with the majority of that still very much virtual machine-based. The newer stuff, everything that's new, net new being built, is being built on containers. Almost everybody we talk to, at least, it's a mixed environment, with more of the existing estate being virtual machine-based.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Most companies that we talk to, most customers that we talk to have a mix, with the majority of that still very much virtual machine-based. The newer stuff, everything that's new, net new being built, is being built on containers. Almost everybody we talk to, at least, it's a mixed environment, with more of the existing estate being virtual machine-based.
Speaker #2: Most customers that we talk to have a mix, with the majority of that, I say, is still very much virtual. Most companies that we talk to are machine-based.
Speaker #2: And the newer stuff, everything that's new, net new being built is being built on containers. So almost everybody we talk to, at least, it's a mixed environment.
Speaker #2: With more of the existing estate being virtual.
Speaker #7: Okay.
Nihal Chokshi: Okay. Thank you.
Nihal Chokshi: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank
Speaker #1: Thank you so much. Asana said a reminder, machine-based. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, please limit your questions to one and one follow-up. Our next question is from Jason Ader with William.
Operator: Thank you so much. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, please limit your questions to one and one follow-up. Our next question is from Jason Ader with William Blair. Please proceed.
Operator: Thank you so much. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, please limit your questions to one and one follow-up. Our next question is from Jason Ader with William Blair. Please proceed.
Speaker #7: Thank you, good afternoon. So, I think, Rajiv, what you guys have been saying is that the push-outs on the license start dates are due to the complexity of migrating off VMware, and it just takes a while.
Jason Ader: Thank you. Good afternoon. I think, Rajiv, what you guys have been saying is that the push-outs on the license start dates are due to the complexity of migrating off VMware, and it just takes a while. We kind of knew that, but you've been doing these migrations for almost two years now. I guess, why do you think this push-out issue didn't pop up sooner? What makes this current time period maybe special? Forget about the OEM part of the business, but just on the flexibility question, do you think it's a budget issue, a macro issue, or some other issue?
Jason Ader: Thank you. Good afternoon. I think, Rajiv, what you guys have been saying is that the push-outs on the license start dates are due to the complexity of migrating off VMware, and it just takes a while. We kind of knew that, but you've been doing these migrations for almost two years now. I guess, why do you think this push-out issue didn't pop up sooner? What makes this current time period maybe special? Forget about the OEM part of the business, but just on the flexibility question, do you think it's a budget issue, a macro issue, or some other issue?
Speaker #7: And we kind of knew that. But you've been doing these migrations for almost two years now. I guess why do you think this push-out issue didn't pop up sooner?
Speaker #7: What makes this current time period maybe special? Forget about the OEM part of the business, but just on the flexibility question, do you think it's a budget issue, a macro issue, or some other
Speaker #7: issue? Yeah.
Richard Valera: Yeah. First of all, by the way, to your point there, it's not entirely new, right? We've seen this in the past too. We've talked about how on some prior large deals, we've had to provide this kind of flexibility to align with the migration timelines. I think in the past, there were a smaller portion, right, of our business. Now we've got a growing set of Broadcom migrations, right? As that grows, again, we're finding that again, there's more of this that requires that flexibility. That's really, I think, the inflection that we saw. We saw this very late in Q1 as well on this front. I would say it's just the fact that we have more of this coming now that's the primary driver. Rukmini, do you want to add any color on this one?
Rajiv Ramaswami: Yeah. First of all, by the way, to your point there, it's not entirely new, right? We've seen this in the past too. We've talked about how on some prior large deals, we've had to provide this kind of flexibility to align with the migration timelines. I think in the past, there were a smaller portion, right, of our business. Now we've got a growing set of Broadcom migrations, right? As that grows, again, we're finding that again, there's more of this that requires that flexibility. That's really, I think, the inflection that we saw. We saw this very late in Q1 as well on this front. I would say it's just the fact that we have more of this coming now that's the primary driver. Rukmini, do you want to add any color on this one?
Speaker #2: First of all, by the way, to your point there, it's not entirely new, right, Jason? We've seen this in the past too. We've talked about how on some prior large deals we've had to provide this kind of flexibility to align with the migration timelines.
Speaker #2: Now, I think in the past, there was a smaller portion of our business. Now we've got a growing set of broadcast migrations.
Speaker #2: And as that grows, again, we're finding that there's more of this that requires flexibility. And that's really, I think, is the inflection that we saw.
Speaker #2: And we saw this very late, this in Q1 as well on this front. So I would say it's just the fact that we have more of this coming.
Speaker #2: Now that's the primary driver. Rukmini, do you want to add any color on this?
Speaker #2: one?
Speaker #4: I agree,
Rukmini Sivaraman: I agree, Rajiv. I think you covered it.
Rukmini Sivaraman: I agree, Rajiv. I think you covered it.
Speaker #4: Rajiv, I think you've covered it.
Speaker #7: Okay. Great. And then as a follow-up, for you, Rajiv, also one of the comments we've heard from the channel is that when people compare the renewal from Broadcom compared to the upfront pricing, including hardware, from Nutanix, it's not that different.
Jason Ader: Okay. Great. As a follow-up for you, Rajiv, also, one of the comments we've heard from the channel is that when people compare the renewal from Broadcom compared to the upfront pricing, including hardware from Nutanix, it's not that different. I know that you guys have talked about this. I guess the question is, should you be more aggressive on the upfront pricing to win business? Is it going to be more problematic on that delta between the renewal for the customer versus the full hardware refresh with the NAND pricing going up as much as it is? I guess that ties into the supply chain question that we discussed earlier. How do you think about sort of upfront pricing and how that might change over time?
Jason Ader: Okay. Great. As a follow-up for you, Rajiv, also, one of the comments we've heard from the channel is that when people compare the renewal from Broadcom compared to the upfront pricing, including hardware from Nutanix, it's not that different. I know that you guys have talked about this. I guess the question is, should you be more aggressive on the upfront pricing to win business? Is it going to be more problematic on that delta between the renewal for the customer versus the full hardware refresh with the NAND pricing going up as much as it is? I guess that ties into the supply chain question that we discussed earlier. How do you think about sort of upfront pricing and how that might change over time?
Speaker #7: And I know that you guys have talked about this. But I guess the question is, should you be more aggressive on the upfront pricing to win business?
Speaker #7: And then is it going to be more problematic on that delta between the renewal for the customer versus the full hardware refresh with the NAN pricing going up as much as it is?
Speaker #7: So I guess that ties into the supply chain question that we discussed earlier. But how do you think about sort of upfront pricing and how that might change?
Speaker #7: over time?
Speaker #2: Yeah. No, that's a very
Richard Valera: Yeah. No, that's a very good question, right? I think a lot of it is also, do they need to buy new hardware or not, right? Tied to that. Because look, from a software perspective, we're not leading with price, but we aim to be very, very competitive, right, with Broadcom. Otherwise, we will not win the account. Especially when we are landing a new customer, I think we will be aggressive. Now, I think the big barrier is they do need new hardware and they have to purchase new hardware. There again, that's why this hardware timing, timing of hardware refreshes, it's a very important question, right?
Rajiv Ramaswami: Yeah. No, that's a very good question, right? I think a lot of it is also, do they need to buy new hardware or not, right? Tied to that. Because look, from a software perspective, we're not leading with price, but we aim to be very, very competitive, right, with Broadcom. Otherwise, we will not win the account. Especially when we are landing a new customer, I think we will be aggressive. Now, I think the big barrier is they do need new hardware and they have to purchase new hardware. There again, that's why this hardware timing, timing of hardware refreshes, it's a very important question, right?
Speaker #2: Good question, right? I mean, I think a lot of it is also do they need to buy new hardware or not, right? Tied to that.
Speaker #2: From a software perspective, we're not leading with price. But we aim to be very, very competitive, right, with Broadcom. Otherwise, we will not win the account.
Speaker #2: And especially when we're landing a new customer, I think we will be aggressive. Now, I think the big barrier is they do need new hardware, and they have to purchase new hardware.
Speaker #2: Now, there again, that's why this hardware timing—timing of hardware refreshes—is a very important question, right? So now, of course, on our part, we've been doing a lot to try to get our software to work on as much of the existing hardware that our customers have, whether it's external storage now with Dell and Pure, or even their existing servers that they may have running, for example, VMware vSAN or their equivalent of hyper-converged.
Richard Valera: Of course, on our part, we've been doing a lot to try to get our software to work on as much of the existing hardware that our customers have, whether it's external storage now with Dell and Pure Storage, or even their existing servers that they may have running, for example, VMware VSAN or their equivalent of hyperconverged. We've been trying to reduce that hardware portion of the outlay for the customer. That will help us also, of course, the more that we're able to do there, the easier it is for us to insert. Those dynamics haven't changed really significantly. I think on our part, we've been working to, again, make our software more broadly applicable so that our customers don't have to go reinvest in hardware.
Of course, on our part, we've been doing a lot to try to get our software to work on as much of the existing hardware that our customers have, whether it's external storage now with Dell and Pure Storage, or even their existing servers that they may have running, for example, VMware VSAN or their equivalent of hyperconverged. We've been trying to reduce that hardware portion of the outlay for the customer. That will help us also, of course, the more that we're able to do there, the easier it is for us to insert. Those dynamics haven't changed really significantly. I think on our part, we've been working to, again, make our software more broadly applicable so that our customers don't have to go reinvest in hardware.
Speaker #2: So we've been trying to reduce that hardware portion of the outlay for the customer, and that will help us also. Of course, the more that we're able to do there, the easier it is for us to insert.
Speaker #2: So those dynamics haven't changed really significantly. I think on our part, we've been working to, again, make our software more broadly applicable so that our customers don't have to go reinvest in hardware.
Speaker #2: Now, when they do reinvest in hardware, by the way, I think the other point that we should not forget is that a lot of the VMware deployments—80% of it—is still three-tier storage.
Richard Valera: When they do reinvest in hardware, by the way, I think the other point that we should not forget is that a lot of the VMware deployments, 80% of it is still three-tier storage. If they move from three-tier storage to HCI, including the hardware, there is a significant TCO benefit. As long as they're ready to go replace their hardware, there is a significant TCO benefit there too. We monitor this. We look at every deal, we look at the situation of the customer, and then decide our strategy there.
When they do reinvest in hardware, by the way, I think the other point that we should not forget is that a lot of the VMware deployments, 80% of it is still three-tier storage. If they move from three-tier storage to HCI, including the hardware, there is a significant TCO benefit. As long as they're ready to go replace their hardware, there is a significant TCO benefit there too. We monitor this. We look at every deal, we look at the situation of the customer, and then decide our strategy there.
Speaker #2: And if they move from three-tier storage to HCI, including the hardware, there is a significant TCO benefit. As long as they're ready to go replace their hardware, there is a significant TCO benefit there too.
Speaker #2: So we monitor this. We look at every deal; we look at the situation, the customer, and then decide our strategy
Speaker #2: there. Thank
Speaker #7: you.
Nihal Chokshi: Thank you.
Nihal Chokshi: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thanks,
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thanks, Jason.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thanks, Jason.
Speaker #4: Jason. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Sickles with Needham. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Sickles with Needham. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from the line of Mike Sicos with Needham. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, thanks for taking the questions here, guys. I just have a quick one and then a follow-up. I wanted to add, though, just to make sure I was clear on it for the first question.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Hey, thanks for taking the questions here, guys. I just have a quick one, then a follow-up. I wanted to add, though, just to make sure I was clear on it for the first question. When I look at some of the guidance commentary here, specifically the second point around the growing proportion of business through third-party OEM partners, is the point here that you're dependent on those partners as far as their timeline to ship those appliances? Does that default back to, again, the flexibility that these customers are requesting? The heart of the question is, is there anything you can do on your side to help those OEM partners move boxes out the door?
Mike Sickles: Hey, thanks for taking the questions here, guys. I just have a quick one, then a follow-up. I wanted to add, though, just to make sure I was clear on it for the first question. When I look at some of the guidance commentary here, specifically the second point around the growing proportion of business through third-party OEM partners, is the point here that you're dependent on those partners as far as their timeline to ship those appliances? Does that default back to, again, the flexibility that these customers are requesting? The heart of the question is, is there anything you can do on your side to help those OEM partners move boxes out the door?
Speaker #7: When I look at some of the guidance commentary here, and specifically the second point around the growing proportion of business to third-party OEM partners, is the point here that you're dependent on those partners as far as their timeline to ship those appliances?
Speaker #7: Or does that default back to, again, the flexibility that these customers are requesting? And the heart of the question is, is there anything you can do on your side to help those OEM partners move boxes out the door?
Speaker #4: Yeah, I start, Mike. It's more the point you made about our revenue recognition being tied to when they ship the hardware, at which point our license provisioning is also tied to that.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah, I start, Mike. It's more the point you made about our revenue recognition is tied to when they ship the hardware, at which point our license provisioning is tied to that. It's less so, we believe, tied to this customer dynamic, which is why we call them out separately, Mike. It's more the ability of the OEM partner to get the hardware shipped from their side. Our license deployment is kind of linked to that, leading to our RevRec. Rajiv, do you want to add anything to that or on what we can maybe help them with in terms of the?
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah, I start, Mike. It's more the point you made about our revenue recognition is tied to when they ship the hardware, at which point our license provisioning is tied to that. It's less so, we believe, tied to this customer dynamic, which is why we call them out separately, Mike. It's more the ability of the OEM partner to get the hardware shipped from their side. Our license deployment is kind of linked to that, leading to our RevRec. Rajiv, do you want to add anything to that or on what we can maybe help them with in terms of the?
Speaker #4: It's less so, we believe, tied to this customer dynamic, which is why we call them out separately, Mike. So it's more the ability of the OEM partner to get the hardware shipped from their side.
Speaker #4: Then our license deployment is kind of linked to that, leading to our rev rec. Rajiv, do you want to add anything to that, or on what we can maybe help them with in
Richard Valera: I mean, not really, right? We don't quite control when they ship, right? It's up to the OEM partners to ship their hardware, so we don't quite control that.
Rajiv Ramaswami: I mean, not really, right? We don't quite control when they ship, right? It's up to the OEM partners to ship their hardware, so we don't quite control that.
Speaker #2: don't quite control when they I mean, not really, right? I mean, we ship, right? So it's up to the OEM partners to ship their hardware.
Speaker #2: And so we don't quite control.
Speaker #2: that. Understood.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Understood. Thanks for the additional color there. For the follow-up, I was just hoping to add something. Rukmini, I understand there's a complexity of layers as far as how you put the guidance out there. If I look at some of the delta here that we're talking to between the bookings and the timing of revenue, how much of the—if I look at the full-year guidance reduction here of about $80 million at the midpoint, how much is based on what we saw exhibited in Q1 versus what is now expected to transpire as we get to Q2, Q3, and Q4? I just wanted to see if there's any way to triangulate or conceptualize the different moving pieces there. I know that's a complex one, but again, just trying to get a little bit more of a firmer understanding.
Mike Sickles: Understood. Thanks for the additional color there. For the follow-up, I was just hoping to add something. Rukmini, I understand there's a complexity of layers as far as how you put the guidance out there. If I look at some of the delta here that we're talking to between the bookings and the timing of revenue, how much of the—if I look at the full-year guidance reduction here of about $80 million at the midpoint, how much is based on what we saw exhibited in Q1 versus what is now expected to transpire as we get to Q2, Q3, and Q4? I just wanted to see if there's any way to triangulate or conceptualize the different moving pieces there. I know that's a complex one, but again, just trying to get a little bit more of a firmer understanding.
Speaker #7: Thanks for the additional color there. And then for the follow-up, I was just hoping to add some Rukmini, I understand there's a complexity of layers as far as how you put the guidance out there.
Speaker #7: But if I look at some of the delta here that we're talking to between the bookings and the timing of revenue, how much of the—if I look at the full year guidance reduction here of about $80 million at the midpoint, how much is based on what we saw exhibited in Q1 versus what is now expected to transpire as we get to Q2, Q3, and Q4?
Speaker #7: I just wanted to see if there's any way to triangulate or conceptualize the different moving pieces there. I know that's a complex one, but again, I'm just trying to get a little bit more of a firmer understanding.
Speaker #7: Understanding. Yeah, so I think what we said.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. I think what we said for Q1, Mike, was that if our assumptions had played out as we had expected from when we gave you the Q1 guide, our revenue for Q1 would have been above the high end of the range. Instead, it was $671 million, which is what the reported revenue number was. That gives you, I guess, a bit of sense of how much we were expecting in Q1 before we saw this late-in-quarter dynamic that we've talked about here. Maybe I'll leave it there, Mike. We're not sort of breaking it down more than that, right, in terms of specific quarters or so on.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. I think what we said for Q1, Mike, was that if our assumptions had played out as we had expected from when we gave you the Q1 guide, our revenue for Q1 would have been above the high end of the range. Instead, it was $671 million, which is what the reported revenue number was. That gives you, I guess, a bit of sense of how much we were expecting in Q1 before we saw this late-in-quarter dynamic that we've talked about here. Maybe I'll leave it there, Mike. We're not sort of breaking it down more than that, right, in terms of specific quarters or so on.
Speaker #4: For Q1, Mike, was that if our assumptions had played out as we had expected, from when we gave you the Q1 guide, that our revenue for Q1 would have been above the high end of the range.
Speaker #4: And instead, it was $671 million, right? Which is what the reported revenue number was. So then that gives you, I guess, a bit of sense of how much we were expecting in Q1 before we saw this late-in-quarter dynamic that we've talked about here.
Speaker #4: And so that's maybe—I'll leave it there, Mike. We're not sort of breaking it down more than that, right, in terms of specific quarters or so on.
Speaker #4: And then the other comment I made, which I'll say again, is around seasonality—first half, second half. For fiscal year '26, if you take the first half, Q1 actuals and Q2 guide, and then compare it to what the second half will be, that mix is not meaningfully different from what we saw last year.
Rukmini Sivaraman: The other comment I made, which I'll say again, is around seasonality, like first half, second half, where for fiscal year 2026, if you take the first half Q1 actuals, Q2 guide, and then compare it to what second half will be, that mix is not meaningfully different from what we saw last year. That would be one other way to think about the contributions.
The other comment I made, which I'll say again, is around seasonality, like first half, second half, where for fiscal year 2026, if you take the first half Q1 actuals, Q2 guide, and then compare it to what second half will be, that mix is not meaningfully different from what we saw last year. That would be one other way to think about the contributions.
Speaker #4: So that'll be one other way to think about the.
Speaker #7: Very helpful. Thank you
Rajiv Ramaswami: Very helpful. Thank you very much.
Mike Sickles: Very helpful. Thank you very much.
Speaker #7: very much. Thanks,
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thanks, Mike.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thanks, Mike.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Mike. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Boling with Cleveland Research. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Bolling with Cleveland Research. Please proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Bolling with Cleveland Research. Please proceed.
Speaker #1: proceed. Good afternoon, everyone.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. Rajiv, I think you've touched on this a couple of times indirectly. I'm interested in your thoughts on the progress you're making with large customers in making this transition from Broadcom to Nutanix, what you're doing to make that process easier, either reducing the duration of the POC, or aiding in the re-engineering, the re-platforming, and the training. You talked about the hardware relationships. I'm interested in your thoughts on some of the things you're doing to improve that process or make it easier for customers. I have a follow-up.
Benjamin Bollin: Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. Rajiv, I think you've touched on this a couple of times indirectly. I'm interested in your thoughts on the progress you're making with large customers in making this transition from Broadcom to Nutanix, what you're doing to make that process easier, either reducing the duration of the POC, or aiding in the re-engineering, the re-platforming, and the training. You talked about the hardware relationships. I'm interested in your thoughts on some of the things you're doing to improve that process or make it easier for customers. I have a follow-up.
Speaker #8: Thanks for taking the question. Rajiv, I think you've touched on this a couple of times indirectly. I'm interested in your thoughts on the progress you're making with large customers in making this transition from Broadcom to Nutanix.
Speaker #8: What you're doing to make that process easier, either reducing the duration of the POC or aiding in the re-engineering and the re-platforming and the training?
Speaker #8: You talked about the hardware relationships. I'm interested in your thoughts on some of the things you're doing to improve that process or make it easier for customers.
Speaker #8: And then I have a follow-up.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I mean, it's a very good question. And these larger customers tend to have more complex environments, right? So typically, if you want to go win them, there's, of course, a POC phase.
Richard Valera: Yeah. I mean, it's a very good question. These larger customers tend to have more complex environments, right? Typically, if you want to go win them, there's, of course, a POC phase. We do actually a pretty good job at the POC. It's not really a technical issue, right? The POC is rarely actually a sticking point. We get through that usually easily. There are all these other factors that come into play, right? The commercial relationship and the dependency that they have potentially across multiple products with Broadcom, right? That's a big dependency. The hardware piece, which again, we try to do support as much and more of their hardware as we can so that they don't have to go to fresh hardware when they switch to us.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Yeah. I mean, it's a very good question. These larger customers tend to have more complex environments, right? Typically, if you want to go win them, there's, of course, a POC phase. We do actually a pretty good job at the POC. It's not really a technical issue, right? The POC is rarely actually a sticking point. We get through that usually easily. There are all these other factors that come into play, right? The commercial relationship and the dependency that they have potentially across multiple products with Broadcom, right? That's a big dependency. The hardware piece, which again, we try to do support as much and more of their hardware as we can so that they don't have to go to fresh hardware when they switch to us.
Speaker #2: And we do actually a pretty good job at the POC. It's not really a technical issue, right? So the POC is rarely actually a sticking point.
Speaker #2: So we get through that usually easily. There are all these other factors that come into play, right? The commercial relationship and the dependency that they have, potentially across multiple products with Broadcom, right?
Speaker #2: That's a big dependency. The hardware piece, which again, we try to support as much and more of their hardware as we can, so that they don't have to go to fresh hardware when they switch to us.
Speaker #2: The third thing that we've been working on, of course, is making sure that we can support the bevy of applications that they have now.
Richard Valera: The third thing that we've been working on, of course, is making sure that we can support the bevy of applications that they have. I would say this is kind of the 80/20 rule. We support the vast majority of applications in being certified on a hypervisor. There's always going to be maybe a handful of outliers that aren't fully supported. I'll give you one example. This was Cisco's Unified Communication Appliances. Those, until recently, used to work on our platform, but they were not officially certified by Cisco. Customers would be reluctant to run those on a Nutanix platform. Now we're certified, right? We are working on getting it certified. Cisco has officially said they're certifying it now. That's a barrier that we have to overcome in some cases for specific applications.
The third thing that we've been working on, of course, is making sure that we can support the bevy of applications that they have. I would say this is kind of the 80/20 rule. We support the vast majority of applications in being certified on a hypervisor. There's always going to be maybe a handful of outliers that aren't fully supported. I'll give you one example. This was Cisco's Unified Communication Appliances. Those, until recently, used to work on our platform, but they were not officially certified by Cisco. Customers would be reluctant to run those on a Nutanix platform. Now we're certified, right? We are working on getting it certified. Cisco has officially said they're certifying it now. That's a barrier that we have to overcome in some cases for specific applications.
Speaker #2: I would say this is kind of the 80/20 rule. We support the vast majority of applications in being certified on our hypervisor. There's always going to be maybe a handful of outliers that aren't fully supported.
Speaker #2: I'll give you one example. This was Cisco's Unified Communication Appliances. Until recently, they used to work on our platform, but they were not officially certified by Cisco.
Speaker #2: And so, customers would be reluctant to run those on a Nutanix platform. Well, now it's certified, right? So we are working on getting it certified.
Speaker #2: Cisco has officially stated that they are certifying it now. This poses a barrier that we need to overcome in some cases for specific applications. Then, of course, there is the migration itself in terms of professional services required.
Richard Valera: Of course, the migration itself in terms of professional services required. Almost every one of these larger customers needs a project team to go help them with their migration. We have that. For the larger deals, we also have a deals pursuit team that looks at all of these aspects in terms of putting together an appropriate commercial proposal. That said, Ben, for the very largest customers, we typically tend to find insertion points as opposed to trying to do complete Broadcom takeoffs, right? We try to find places where they can actually use our solution for, say, specific workloads, specific use cases. For example, we have a pretty good database management solution. We have a good Kubernetes offering. These are things where I think we try to differentiate and also try to get in with a subset of applications.
Of course, the migration itself in terms of professional services required. Almost every one of these larger customers needs a project team to go help them with their migration. We have that. For the larger deals, we also have a deals pursuit team that looks at all of these aspects in terms of putting together an appropriate commercial proposal. That said, Ben, for the very largest customers, we typically tend to find insertion points as opposed to trying to do complete Broadcom takeoffs, right? We try to find places where they can actually use our solution for, say, specific workloads, specific use cases. For example, we have a pretty good database management solution. We have a good Kubernetes offering. These are things where I think we try to differentiate and also try to get in with a subset of applications.
Speaker #2: Almost every one of these larger customers needs a project team to help them with their migration. So, we have that. And then, of course, for the larger deals, we also have a deals pursuit team that looks at all of these aspects in terms of putting together an appropriate commercial proposal.
Speaker #2: Now, that said, Ben, for the very largest customers, we typically tend to find insertion points as opposed to trying to do complete Broadcom takeoffs, right?
Speaker #2: So we try to find places where we can actually—they can use our solution for, say, specific workloads, specific use cases. And for example, we have a pretty good database management solution.
Speaker #2: Good Kubernetes offering. So these are things where I think we try to. We have a subset of applications. And so that's, I think, typically what we do.
Richard Valera: That's, I think, typically what we do. Of course, the last piece I would just say is we go through security audits, and we've gotten pretty good at doing that as well and carrying that across through. We have one fair share of what I would call certainly Fortune 500 customers. I think as you get to the Fortune 50, at the very top of the pyramid, it's very hard to do a full displacement, right? Like I said, those would be partial entry points for specific workloads.
That's, I think, typically what we do. Of course, the last piece I would just say is we go through security audits, and we've gotten pretty good at doing that as well and carrying that across through. We have one fair share of what I would call certainly Fortune 500 customers. I think as you get to the Fortune 50, at the very top of the pyramid, it's very hard to do a full displacement, right? Like I said, those would be partial entry points for specific workloads.
Speaker #2: Then, of course, the last piece I would just say is we go through security audits, and we've gotten pretty good at doing that as well and carrying that across through.
Speaker #2: So we have won a fair share of what I would call certainly Fortune 500 customers. I think as you get to the Fortune 50, at the very top of the pyramid, it's very hard to do a full displacement, right?
Speaker #2: And like I said, those would be partial entry points for specific.
Speaker #2: workloads. Okay.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Okay. That's really helpful. I guess the follow-up would be, when you look at the enterprise footprint you are working with, obviously, AI is soaking up a lot of mind share and dollar share. I'm interested how you think enterprise investments in AI may or may not be influencing your opportunity to go out there and capture bigger footprint. Are they trying to do too much at once? They got to pick their priority. Just how you think about that? Thank you.
Speaker #8: Okay. That's really helpful. And I guess the follow-up would be when you look at the enterprise footprint you are working with. Obviously, AI is soaking up a lot of mind share and dollar share.
Benjamin Bollin: Okay. That's really helpful. I guess the follow-up would be, when you look at the enterprise footprint you are working with, obviously, AI is soaking up a lot of mind share and dollar share. I'm interested how you think enterprise investments in AI may or may not be influencing your opportunity to go out there and capture bigger footprint. Are they trying to do too much at once? They got to pick their priority. Just how you think about that? Thank you.
Speaker #8: I'm interested in how you think enterprise investments in AI may or may not be influencing your opportunity to go out there and capture a bigger footprint.
Speaker #8: Are they trying to do too much at once? They have to pick their priority. Just what do you think about that? Thank you.
Speaker #2: I mean, it's a very fair question, Ben. Almost everybody that we talk to has got AI at the top of their minds.
Richard Valera: I mean, it's a very fair question, Ben. I mean, almost everybody that we talk to has got AI at the top of their minds. I would just say that it's not—I mean, the vast majority of our customers are, I would say, more experimenting with AI right now than really deploying it at some massive scale. There are exceptions. There are some subset of customers that are further along the journey. Most of our customers are still very early. It's not like they've devoted the bulk of their spend to AI. We haven't quite seen that yet in our subset of customers. Keep in mind, our customers aren't the AI-native companies, right? They are the typical industrials, financial services, manufacturers, and retailers who are all wanting to use AI, but still fairly early in their adoption.
Rajiv Ramaswami: I mean, it's a very fair question, Ben. I mean, almost everybody that we talk to has got AI at the top of their minds. I would just say that it's not—I mean, the vast majority of our customers are, I would say, more experimenting with AI right now than really deploying it at some massive scale. There are exceptions. There are some subset of customers that are further along the journey. Most of our customers are still very early. It's not like they've devoted the bulk of their spend to AI. We haven't quite seen that yet in our subset of customers. Keep in mind, our customers aren't the AI-native companies, right? They are the typical industrials, financial services, manufacturers, and retailers who are all wanting to use AI, but still fairly early in their adoption.
Speaker #2: But I would just say that it's not—I mean, the vast majority of our customers are, I would say, more experimenting with AI right now than really deploying it at some massive scale.
Speaker #2: There are exceptions. There's a subset of customers that are further along the journey, but most of our customers are still very early. So it's not like they've diverted the bulk of their AI spend to AI.
Speaker #2: And so we haven't quite seen that yet. In our subset of customers, and keep in mind, our customers aren't the AI-native companies, right? They are the typical industrials, financial services, manufacturers, and retailers who are all wanting to use AI.
Speaker #2: But still fairly early in their.
Speaker #2: adoption. Thanks,
Rajiv Ramaswami: Thanks, Rajiv.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Thanks, Rajiv.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment for our next question, please. Any calls from Param Singh with Oppenheimer?
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question, please. It comes from Param Singh with Oppenheimer. Please proceed.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question, please. It comes from Param Singh with Oppenheimer. Please proceed.
Speaker #1: proceed. Hi.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Hi. Thank you. I really appreciate you taking my questions. I have a couple. Rajiv, Rukmini, I sort of harp on, again, on the migration piece, but really want to understand the impact, right? I would have assumed that with migrations, you'll probably have larger deal sizes because migrations from VMware are much bigger. That should layer on and impact your RPO in a much more positive way rather than just to see this little impact to RPO this current quarter. Really haven't seen that. Please, if you could help me understand that. If it is true that you are gaining all these migrations, I would assume since migrations take multiple years, as you get more and more migrations, your revenue would technically start to accelerate into next year, right? Like this year's revenue to next year plus whatever else you get.
Param?Singh: Hi. Thank you. I really appreciate you taking my questions. I have a couple. Rajiv, Rukmini, I sort of harp on, again, on the migration piece, but really want to understand the impact, right? I would have assumed that with migrations, you'll probably have larger deal sizes because migrations from VMware are much bigger. That should layer on and impact your RPO in a much more positive way rather than just to see this little impact to RPO this current quarter. Really haven't seen that. Please, if you could help me understand that. If it is true that you are gaining all these migrations, I would assume since migrations take multiple years, as you get more and more migrations, your revenue would technically start to accelerate into next year, right? Like this year's revenue to next year plus whatever else you get.
Speaker #9: Thank you. I really appreciate you taking my questions. I have a couple. So, Rajiv, Rukmini and I sort of harp on, again, on the migration piece, but I really want to understand the impact, right?
Speaker #9: I would have assumed that with migrations, you'll probably have larger deal sizes because migrations from VMware are much bigger. So that should layer on and impact your RPO in a much more positive way rather than just seeing these little impacts to RPO this current quarter.
Speaker #9: I really haven't seen that. So please, if you could help me understand that. And if it is true that you are gaining all these migrations, I would assume since migrations take multiple years, as you get more and more migrations, your revenue would technically start to accelerate into next year, right?
Speaker #9: This year's revenue to next year, plus whatever else you get. So you will see an accelerating trajectory to 2027. Am I wrong in this?
Rajiv Ramaswami: You will see an accelerating trajectory to 2027. Am I wrong in this?
You will see an accelerating trajectory to 2027. Am I wrong in this?
Speaker #9: this? Yeah.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Let's first start with the first question, Param. Thank you for those questions. On the migrations, you're right that in general, it's typically for the bigger ones where they will say, where a customer might say, look, can I have these licenses phased out over time versus all upfront? What we're saying is that in Q1, we did see bookings come in slightly higher than our expectations. The mix of orders that came in with these future start dates that we saw late in Q1 meant that more of that revenue got pushed or shifted out into Q2 and beyond than we had previously expected. That's the point around just migration and so on. Now, if you look at—I think you were trying to tie that to RPO.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Yeah. Let's first start with the first question, Param. Thank you for those questions. On the migrations, you're right that in general, it's typically for the bigger ones where they will say, where a customer might say, look, can I have these licenses phased out over time versus all upfront? What we're saying is that in Q1, we did see bookings come in slightly higher than our expectations. The mix of orders that came in with these future start dates that we saw late in Q1 meant that more of that revenue got pushed or shifted out into Q2 and beyond than we had previously expected. That's the point around just migration and so on. Now, if you look at—I think you were trying to tie that to RPO.
Speaker #4: So let's first start with the first question. Param, thank you for those questions. So on the migrations, you're right that in general, it's for the typically for the bigger ones where they will say where customer might say, "Look, can I have these licenses phased out over time versus all upfront?" And so what we're saying is that in Q1, we did see bookings come in slightly higher than our expectations.
Speaker #4: And the mix of orders that came in with these future start dates that we saw late in Q1 meant that more of that revenue got pushed or shifted out into Q2 and beyond than we had previously expected.
Speaker #4: And so that's the point on migration and so on. Now, if you look at— I think you were trying to tie that to RPO— and so if I look at RPO, like I said, it includes deferred revenue, waterfall, which is pretty standard, right?
Rukmini Sivaraman: If I look at RPO, like I said, it includes deferred revenue waterfall, which is pretty standard, right? You can see it in the balance sheet. It also includes this non-cancelable backlog, which, what I said earlier was that in Q1, seasonally, you do expect that portion to be lower quarter over quarter. That's what we saw in Q1 as well. If you look at the RPO growth, it's quite significant year on year, which is a good thing, right? When you look at total RPO growing meaningfully over time, that's, I think, the first piece of the answer. I think the second part of your question was around, again, fiscal year 2027. Why wouldn't there sort of be maybe an acceleration in 2027, I think, is how you'd phrase the question, Param.
If I look at RPO, like I said, it includes deferred revenue waterfall, which is pretty standard, right? You can see it in the balance sheet. It also includes this non-cancelable backlog, which, what I said earlier was that in Q1, seasonally, you do expect that portion to be lower quarter over quarter. That's what we saw in Q1 as well. If you look at the RPO growth, it's quite significant year on year, which is a good thing, right? When you look at total RPO growing meaningfully over time, that's, I think, the first piece of the answer. I think the second part of your question was around, again, fiscal year 2027. Why wouldn't there sort of be maybe an acceleration in 2027, I think, is how you'd phrase the question, Param.
Speaker #4: And you can see in the balance sheet. It also includes this non-cancellable backlog, which, as I said earlier, in Q1, seasonally, you do expect that portion to be lower quarter over quarter.
Speaker #4: And that's what we saw in Q1 as well. If you look at the RPO growth, it's quite significant year on year, which is a good thing, right?
Speaker #4: And when you look at total RPO growing meaningfully over time, that's, I think, the first piece of the answer. Then, I think the second part of your question was around, again, fiscal year '27 and why there wouldn't be maybe an acceleration in '27?
Speaker #4: I think is how you'd phrase the question. Param, so what I would say there, right, is look, I think this is—if this was sort of a one-time thing, you're right, then we'd sort of have some kind of a catch-up.
Rukmini Sivaraman: What I would say there, right, is, look, I think this is—if this was sort of a one-time thing, you're right, then we'd sort of have some kind of a catch-up. We've talked about three factors here as we thought about the forward-looking view. One was these migrations. If we believe, as we do, that these migrations are going to continue and we're going to be able to prosecute more against the Broadcom displacement opportunity, we will see more of this sustain. We expect bookings to grow as well over time, right? Even if you assume that the proportion of orders with future start dates stays the same, and you expect bookings in general to grow over time, land and expand bookings to grow over time, the dollar amount that's getting shifted out will be higher than shifted in, right?
What I would say there, right, is, look, I think this is—if this was sort of a one-time thing, you're right, then we'd sort of have some kind of a catch-up. We've talked about three factors here as we thought about the forward-looking view. One was these migrations. If we believe, as we do, that these migrations are going to continue and we're going to be able to prosecute more against the Broadcom displacement opportunity, we will see more of this sustain. We expect bookings to grow as well over time, right? Even if you assume that the proportion of orders with future start dates stays the same, and you expect bookings in general to grow over time, land and expand bookings to grow over time, the dollar amount that's getting shifted out will be higher than shifted in, right?
Speaker #4: And we've talked about three factors here as we thought about the forward-looking view. One was these migrations. And if we believe, as we do, that these migrations are going to continue and we're going to see Broadcom displacement or maturity, that we will see more of this sustain.
Speaker #4: And we expect bookings to grow as well over time, right? So even if you assume that the proportion of orders, which we just started, stays the same, and you expect bookings in general to grow over time, land and expand bookings to grow over time, the dollar amount that's getting shifted out will be higher than shifted in, right?
Speaker #4: So there's a net effect there. That will matter in any given period, including in '27. And then, like I said earlier, right, '27 overall revenue will also depend on our booking expectations for '27, which, again, I'm not commenting on today, but we intend to cover some of that in our.
Rukmini Sivaraman: There's a net effect there that will matter in any given period, including in 2027. Like I said earlier, 2027 overall revenue will also depend on our booking expectations for 2027, which, again, not commenting on today, but we intend to cover some of that in our investor data.
There's a net effect there that will matter in any given period, including in 2027. Like I said earlier, 2027 overall revenue will also depend on our booking expectations for 2027, which, again, not commenting on today, but we intend to cover some of that in our investor data.
Speaker #4: investigation. Sure.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Sure. Thank you for that, Rukmini. Really quickly, as my follow-up, strategically thinking about this, right? Obviously, there's an opportunity to take share from VMware here. Why not be more aggressive for the rest of the VMware business here? I know you're going through your reference architectures, but is there a way to accelerate that? Maybe not, or you don't want to compete with that. I don't know how you're thinking about it on the standalone virtualization side and how aggressive you want to be attacking that market. Anything you could share is appreciated.
Speaker #8: Sure. Thank you for that, Rukmini. And really quickly, as my follow-up, strategically thinking about this, right, obviously, there's an opportunity to take share from VMware here.
Param?Singh: Sure. Thank you for that, Rukmini. Really quickly, as my follow-up, strategically thinking about this, right? Obviously, there's an opportunity to take share from VMware here. Why not be more aggressive for the rest of the VMware business here? I know you're going through your reference architectures, but is there a way to accelerate that? Maybe not, or you don't want to compete with that. I don't know how you're thinking about it on the standalone virtualization side and how aggressive you want to be attacking that market. Anything you could share is appreciated.
Speaker #8: Why not be more aggressive for the rest of the VMware business here? I know you're going through a reference architecture, but is there a way to accelerate that?
Speaker #8: Or maybe not, or you don't want to compete in that? I don't know how you're thinking about it on the standalone virtualization side and how aggressive you want to be in attacking that market.
Speaker #8: So anything you could
Speaker #8: share is appreciated. Yeah.
Richard Valera: Yeah, that's another good question. I think on the standalone virtualization, again, look, I mean, we have been adding, right? We have been investing fairly aggressively to expand the support for third-party storage, right? We have now Dell PowerFlex. The number two coming on board very shortly is Pure. We have Dell PowerStore. Yes, there will be more, right? At the same time, we have to also balance those investments versus investing in our future, right? Where Kubernetes, CloudNative, and AI, right, on the other side. We have to strike that balance, right? We don't want to go too far backwards in time to go support everything that's out there. We want to support the big ones. If you look at it, once you've got Dell and Pure, I mean, that's a big chunk of the market, right?
Rajiv Ramaswami: Yeah, that's another good question. I think on the standalone virtualization, again, look, I mean, we have been adding, right? We have been investing fairly aggressively to expand the support for third-party storage, right? We have now Dell PowerFlex. The number two coming on board very shortly is Pure. We have Dell PowerStore. Yes, there will be more, right? At the same time, we have to also balance those investments versus investing in our future, right? Where Kubernetes, CloudNative, and AI, right, on the other side. We have to strike that balance, right? We don't want to go too far backwards in time to go support everything that's out there. We want to support the big ones. If you look at it, once you've got Dell and Pure, I mean, that's a big chunk of the market, right?
Speaker #2: That's another good question. I think on the standalone virtualization, again, look, I mean, we have been adding, right? And we have been investing fairly aggressively to expand the support for third-party storage, right?
Speaker #2: So we have now Dell PowerFlex. The number two coming on board very shortly is Pure. We have Dell PowerStore. And yes, there will be more, right?
Speaker #2: Now, at the same time, we have to also balance those investments versus investing in our future, right? Where Kubernetes, and cloud native, and AI, right, on the other side.
Speaker #2: So we have to strike that balance, right? We don't want to go too far backwards in time. To go support everything that's out there, we want to support the big ones.
Speaker #2: And if you look at it, once you've got Dell and Pure, I mean, that's a big chunk of the market, right? And we'll probably get the other big ones too out there.
Richard Valera: We'll probably get the other big ones too out there. We'll focus on, again, getting sort of the big picture, big ones out there, and then not trying to go meet everything. Then also balance it out with investing in CloudNative and AI.
We'll probably get the other big ones too out there. We'll focus on, again, getting sort of the big picture, big ones out there, and then not trying to go meet everything. Then also balance it out with investing in CloudNative and AI.
Speaker #2: So we'll focus on, again, getting sort of the big picture, the big ones out there. And then not trying to go meet everything. And then also balance it out with investing in cloud native and AI.
Speaker #8: Understood. Thank you. Thank you so much for answering my questions, especially for Rukmini. I appreciate it.
Rajiv Ramaswami: Understood. Thank you. Thank you so much for answering my questions, Rajiv, Rukmini. Appreciate it.
Param?Singh: Understood. Thank you. Thank you so much for answering my questions, Rajiv, Rukmini. Appreciate it.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Param.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thank you, Param.
Rukmini Sivaraman: Thank you, Param.
Operator: Thank you so much. With that, ladies and gentlemen, we conclude our Q&A session and conference for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Thank you so much. With that, ladies and gentlemen, we conclude our Q&A session and conference for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.