Q3 2025 American Bitcoin Corp Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good morning. And welcome to American Bitcoin's third quarter 2025 financial results conference call. Speaking on today's call are co-founder and chief strategy officer Eric Trump.
Operator: Good morning, welcome to American Bitcoin Corp.'s Q3 2025 financial results conference call. Speaking on today's call are Co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer, Eric Trump; Chief Executive Officer, Mike Ho; Executive Chairman, Asher Genoot; and President and Interim Chief Financial Officer, Matt Prusak. Following their remarks, we will open the line for questions. This call is being recorded, a transcript will be made available on American Bitcoin Corp.'s website. In addition to the press release issued earlier today, American Bitcoin Corp.'s full quarterly report on Form 10-Q is available at abtc.com and on the company's EDGAR profile at sec.gov. Unless otherwise indicated, all figures discussed today are in US dollars. Certain statements made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws. These statements reflect current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.
Speaker #1: officer Mike Chief executive Ho. Executive chairman Asher Gannou. And president and interim chief financial officer Matt Prusak. Following their remarks, we will open the line for questions.
Speaker #1: This call is being recorded, and a transcript will be made available on American Bitcoin's website. In addition to the press release issued earlier today, American Bitcoin's full quarterly report on Form 10-Q is available at abtc.com/ and on the company's EDGAR profile at sec.gov.
Speaker #1: Unless otherwise indicated, all figures discussed today are in US dollars. Certain statements made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws.
Speaker #1: These statements reflect current to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results expectations and are subject to differ company's SEC filings. materially. Certain key risks Except as required by law, the revise any forward-looking statements.
Operator: Certain key risks are detailed in the company's SEC filings. Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. During the call, management may reference non-GAAP measures such as adjusted EBITDA. Management believes these metrics, alongside GAAP results, provide valuable insight into the company's performance. Reconciliations of GAAP and non-GAAP results are included in the tables accompanying today's press release available on the company's website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Eric Trump, Co-founder and Chief Strategy Officer of American Bitcoin.
Speaker #1: During the are detailed in the as adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP measures such company undertakes no metrics alongside GAAP results provide valuable insight call, management may reference into the company's performance.
Speaker #1: of GAAP and the tables accompanying today's press release available on the company's website. With that, I'll turn the call officer of American co-founder and chief strategy Bitcoin.
Speaker #2: Good morning, over to Eric Trump, inaugural earnings conference everybody. Welcome to American Bitcoin's call. It's incredible honor to share our vision, our progress with you today as we begin this journey as a newly listed company on the Nasdaq.
Eric Trump: Good morning, everybody. Welcome to American Bitcoin's inaugural Earnings Conference Call. It's an incredible honor to share our vision, our progress with you today as we begin this journey as a newly listed company on the Nasdaq. It's really hard to believe that exactly 7 months and 15 days ago, we started this journey. American Bitcoin was formed on 31 March 2025. On 3 September, 5 months and 3 days later, we had our public debut on the Nasdaq. Today, 14 November, 2 months and 11 days after that, we're climbing the ladder each and every day. Today, we're the 25th largest public accumulator, and we're adding Bitcoin every single day. We truly believe that the traditional financial system is long overdue for transformation, and we believe that Bitcoin can drive that transformation. We believe that it is the solution.
Speaker #2: It's hard to believe that exactly seven months and 15 days ago, we started this journey. American Bitcoin was formed on March 31, 2025.
Speaker #2: On September 3rd, five months and three days later, we had our public debut on the Nasdaq. And today, November 14th, two months and 11 days after that, we're climbing the ladder each and every day.
Speaker #2: Today, we're the 25th largest public accumulator, and we're adding Bitcoin every single financial system is long overdue for day. We truly believe that the traditional transformation. drive that transformation.
Speaker #2: Today, we're the 25th largest public accumulator, and we're adding Bitcoin every single financial system is long overdue for day. We truly believe that the traditional transformation.
Speaker #2: We believe that it is the solution. Yet for so many years investors didn't have access complex, opaque, and convoluted. American Bitcoin has And we believe that Bitcoin can built a bridge to that gap to make Bitcoin ownership transparent, and accessible through the efficient, public equity markets.
Eric Trump: For so many years, investors didn't have access to Bitcoin or was complex, opaque, and convoluted. American Bitcoin has built a bridge to that gap to make Bitcoin ownership efficient, transparent, and accessible through the public equity markets. Our mission is to give investors the most efficient compounding exposure to what we believe is the most important asset class of our time. Bitcoin is an asset that's gone up on average of 70% a year-over-year, over the last decade. In fact, just a couple of minutes ago, I looked back at exactly 2 years ago from today, and Bitcoin price was roughly $36,500. It's amazing how far we've gone. In doing so, we aim to set the global benchmark for Bitcoin infrastructure, reserves, and innovation.
Speaker #2: Our mission is to give investors the most efficient, compounding exposure to what we believe is the most important asset class of our time. Bitcoin is an asset that's gone up on average of 70% a year, year over year, over the last decade.
Speaker #2: In fact, just a couple of minutes ago, I looked back at today, and Bitcoin's price was roughly $36,500. It's amazing how far we've come over the past two years.
Speaker #2: In doing so, we aim to set the global benchmark for Bitcoin infrastructure, reserves, and innovation. And we plan to do that right here in the United States of America, in Texas, using American infrastructure and American energy.
Eric Trump: We plan to do that right here in the United States of America, in Texas, using American infrastructure and American energy. Our strategy is straightforward: to maximize Bitcoin per share through rapid, efficient accumulation. We achieve this through a dual model. One is mining Bitcoin, and we're doing so at roughly 50% of the cost of buying it in the open market, something that very few people anywhere in the world can match. Second, managing our reserves through disciplined market-driven treasury strategies. This model is designed to compound value by converting capital invested into incremental Bitcoin ownership for our shareholders. Q3 demonstrates the strength of our model. It's truly been amazing to see our incredible growth. We've executed with speed, with discipline, and with precision an incredibly low SG&A, scaling our operations and building our reserves.
Speaker #2: Our strategy is straightforward: maximize Bitcoin through efficient accumulation. We achieved this through a dual model. One share through rapid acquisition at roughly 50% of the cost of buying it in the open markets.
Speaker #2: Something that very few people anywhere in the world can match. And second, managing our reserves through disciplined market-driven treasury strategies. This model is designed to compound value by converting capital invested into shareholders.
Speaker #2: The third quarter demonstrates the strength of our model. It's truly been amazing to see our incredible growth. We've executed with speed, discipline, and precision at an incredibly low SG&A, scaling our operations and building our reserves.
Speaker #2: Since our Nasdaq debut, we've added over reserves. Steadily advancing among the world's leading public Bitcoin treasuries. And again, that's just in two months and 11 days.
Eric Trump: Since our Nasdaq debut, we've added over 3,000 Bitcoin to our reserves, steadily advancing among the world's leading public Bitcoin treasuries. Again, that's just in 2 months and 11 days. It's early, but we're just getting started, and we're only going to accelerate from here. I could not be more proud of this incredible team, of my incredible co-founders with me, Mike Ho and Asher Genoot. There is no team that will work harder. There is no team that is more committed. We truly love what we're doing. With that, I'll turn it over to Mike to discuss Q3 results and the operational progress behind our incredible milestones.
Speaker #2: It's early, but we're just getting started, and we're only going not be more proud of this incredible team, of my incredible co-founders with me, Mike Ho, and Asher Gannou.
Speaker #2: There is no team that will work harder. There is no team that is more committed. We truly love what we're doing. With that, I'll turn it over to Mike to discuss third quarter results and the operational progress behind our incredible
Speaker #3: Thanks, Eric. And good
Mike Ho: Thanks, Eric, and good morning, everyone. The vision Eric outlined is the foundation of everything we do. Today, I'll discuss the progress we made towards this vision during Q3. At the core of American Bitcoin is a singular objective to compound long-term Bitcoin ownership per share. We view Bitcoin per share expressed today in satoshis per share as the most accurate expression of our intrinsic value. Calculated by dividing Bitcoin held by shares outstanding, it is what we believe to be the best measure of how effectively we translate capital into incremental Bitcoin ownership for our investors. Our goal is to deliver the most efficient compounding exposure to the asset class in the market. This objective guides our decision-making from how we deploy capital to how we scale operations.
Speaker #3: morning, everyone. The vision Eric outlined is a foundation of everything we do. Today, I'll milestones. discuss the progress we made towards this vision during the third quarter.
Speaker #3: At the core of American Bitcoin is a singular objective: to compound long-term Bitcoin ownership per share. We view Bitcoin per share expressed today and Satoshi's per share as the most accurate expression of our intrinsic value.
Speaker #3: Outstanding, it is what we believe to be the best measure of how effectively we translate capital into incremental value, calculated by Bitcoin ownership for our investors.
Speaker #3: Our goal is to deliver the most efficient, compounding exposure to the asset class in the market. This objective guides our decision-making, from how we deploy capital to how we scale operations.
Speaker #3: It is underpinned by a differentiated dual accumulation model that integrates industrial-scale, asset-like Bitcoin mining operations with a disciplined, market-driven Bitcoin treasury strategy. Our integrated mining operations enable us to expand our reserves at a structural discount to spot prices.
Mike Ho: It is underpinned by a differentiated dual accumulation model that integrates industrial scale asset like Bitcoin mining operations with a disciplined market-driven Bitcoin treasury strategy. Our integrated mining operations enable us to expand our reserves at a structural discount to spots. Our treasury strategy shapes how our reserves are held, optimized, and deployed to drive compounding growth in Bitcoin per share. Together, they form a self-reinforcing flywheel that delivers a structural advantage we believe neither conventional Bitcoin treasury vehicles nor traditional Bitcoin miners can replicate. While conventional vehicles accumulate Bitcoin at spots, we mine at less than half the cost. Traditional miners, meanwhile, often dilute returns through heavy infrastructure CapEx and overhead.
Speaker #3: Our treasury strategy shapes how our reserves are held, optimized, and deployed to drive compounding growth in Bitcoin per share. Together, they form a self-reinforcing flywheel that delivers a structural advantage we believe neither conventional Bitcoin treasury vehicles nor traditional Bitcoin miners can replicate.
Speaker #3: While conventional vehicles accumulate Bitcoin at spots, we mine at less than half the cost. Traditional miners, meanwhile, often dilute returns through heavy infrastructure CapEx and overhead.
Speaker #3: By contrast, our asset-like model enabled by an extensive commercial partnership with Hadais enables us to channel a greater share of capital directly expansion. Amplifying capital into hash rate growth and reserve efficiency and the compounding effect of our model.
Mike Ho: By contrast, our asset-light model, enabled by an extensive commercial partnership with Hut 8, enables us to channel a greater share of capital directly into hash rate growth and reserve expansion, amplifying capital efficiency and the compounding effect of our model. That advantage was evident this quarter as our results reflected the structural leverage embedded in this model. We more than doubled the scale of our mining operations after exercising our purchase option for approximately 14.8 exahash of new miners at the Vega site. By quarter end, our capacity totaled 25 exahash with an average fleet efficiency of 16.3 joules per terahash. Today, these metrics position American Bitcoin alongside leading pure play miners. That operational step change translated directly into financial performance.
Speaker #3: was evident this quarter. As our That advantage results reflected the structural leverage embedded in this model, we more than doubled the scale of our mining operations after exercising our purchase option for approximately $14.8 exahash of new miners at the Vega site.
Speaker #3: By quarter-end, our capacity totaled 25 exahash, with an average fleet efficiency of 16.3 joules per terahash. Today, these metrics position American Bitcoin alongside leading pure-play miners.
Speaker #3: That operational step change translated directly into financial performance. Revenue more than doubled quarter over quarter to $64.2 million outpacing cost of revenue growth, which rose from $15.3 million to $28.3 million over the same period.
Mike Ho: Revenue more than doubled quarter-over-quarter to $64.2 million, outpacing cost of revenue growth, which rose from $15.3 million to $28.3 million over the same period. As a result, gross margin expanded 7 points to 56%, up from 49% last quarter, demonstrating the operating leverage inherent in our model and the structural benefit of producing Bitcoin below spot costs. That leverage held even in a volatile environment. Even amid Bitcoin price volatility, profitability improves. Despite a $5.5 million mark to market loss on digital assets this quarter versus a $3 million gain last quarter, net income still increased from $3.4 million to $3.5 million, and adjusted EBITDA nearly doubled to $27.7 million. Our efficiency advantage extends beyond the data center.
Speaker #3: As a result, gross margin expanded 7.0 to 56%, up from 49% last quarter. Demonstrating the operating leverage inherent in our model and the structural benefit of producing Bitcoin below spot cost.
Speaker #3: That leverage held even in a volatile environment. Even amid Bitcoin price volatility, profitability improved. Despite a $5.5 million mark-to-market loss on digital assets this quarter, versus a $3 million gain last quarter, net income still increased from $3.4 million to $3.5 million.
Speaker #3: And adjusted EBITDA nearly doubled to $27.7 million. Our efficiency advantage extends beyond the data center. SG&A represented only 13% of revenue in the third quarter.
Mike Ho: SG&A represented only 13% of revenue in Q3, underscoring the scalability of our partnership-driven model with Hut 8. Our lean operating model enables us to direct the majority of capital toward productive growth rather than fixed costs, strengthening returns on invested capital. Ultimately, the clearest expression of this model is in reserve growth. Since 1 April 2025, we have scaled our Bitcoin reserves from 0 to 3,418 Bitcoin through mining and market purchases, inclusive of encumbered Bitcoin, which is equivalent to 371 satoshis per share at quarter-end. This growth validates our thesis. Disciplined execution and structural cost advantage delivers compounding Bitcoin ownership per share. Looking ahead, our priorities are twofold. In mining, we continue to focus on scaling our operations.
Speaker #3: Underscoring the scalability of our partnership-driven model with Hadais. Our lean operating model enables us to direct the majority of capital toward productive growth rather than fixed costs, strengthening returns on invested capital.
Speaker #3: this model is in reserve growth. Since April 1, Ultimately, the clearest expression of 2025, we have scaled our Bitcoin reserves from zero to 3,418 Bitcoin through mining and market purchases.
Speaker #3: Inclusive of encumbered Bitcoin, which is equivalent to 371 Satoshi's per share at quarter end. This growth validates our thesis. Disciplined execution and structural cost advantage deliver compounding Bitcoin ownership per share.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead, our priorities are twofold. In mining, we continue to focus on scaling our operations. Our partnership with Hadais provides access to a robust pipeline of power assets and a proven greenfield development platform.
Mike Ho: Our partnership with Hut 8 provides access to a robust pipeline of power assets and a proven greenfield development platform. The same capability that underpinned Hut 8's track record of rapid capital efficient expansion. We believe this partnership will enable us to continue scaling rapidly while limiting development risks and deploying into infrastructure purpose-built for high-density ASIC computes. Coupled with access to next generation ASIC technology, we believe this positions us to scale with industry-leading development speed, hash rate density, and mining efficiency. In treasury, our focus remains on disciplined Bitcoin per share accretion. We continue to evaluate market-driven strategies for reserve optimization, balancing yields, liquidity, and long-term accumulation to compound ownership rapidly and cost efficiently. As we seek to expand Bitcoin ownership per share and continue to compound that ownership through disciplined execution, we remain focused on deepening our structural advantage over both conventional treasury vehicles and traditional miners.
Speaker #3: The same capability that underpinned Hadais' track record of rapid, capital-efficient expansion. We believe this partnership will enable us to continue scaling rapidly while limiting development risk and deploying into infrastructure purpose-built for high-density ASIC computes.
Speaker #3: Coupled with access to next-generation ASIC technology, we believe this positions us to scale with industry-leading development speed, hash rate density, and mining efficiency. In treasury, our focus remains on disciplined Bitcoin per share accretion.
Speaker #3: We continue to evaluate market-driven strategies for reserve optimization balancing yield, liquidity, and long-term accumulation to compound ownership rapidly and cost-efficiently. As we seek to expand Bitcoin ownership per share and continue to compound that ownership through disciplined execution, we remain focused on deepening our structural advantage over both conventional treasury vehicles and traditional miners.
Speaker #3: Ultimately, we believe enduring value is built through consistent, repeatable performance that compounds ownership and widens advantage over time. That principle defines how we operate today and how we intend to create lasting shareholder value in the years ahead.
Mike Ho: Ultimately, we believe enduring value is built through consistent, repeatable performance that compounds ownership and widens advantage over time. That principle defines how we operate today and how we intend to create lasting shareholder value in the years ahead. Operator, please open the line for Q&A.
Speaker #3: Operator, please open the line for
Speaker #3: Q&A. Thank you.
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Speaker #2: Your first question comes from Bryan Dobson with Clear Street. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: Hi. Thanks very much for taking my question. So as you look out over the landscape in the United States, there's tremendous demand for megawatts coming from the HPC providers.
Brian Dobson: Hi. Thanks very much for taking my question. As you look out over the landscape in the US, there's tremendous demand for MW coming from the HPC providers. How do you plan to compete for that, and I suppose what gives you a special advantage as you look to grow your portfolio?
Speaker #3: How do you plan to compete for that? And I suppose what gives you a special advantage as you look to grow your
Speaker #3: Hey, good to hear from you.
Asher Genoot: Hey, good to hear you again, Brian. This is Asher speaking. One thing that people don't think about as much today is the community's impact and their ability to choose what infrastructure that's built. You're starting to see this more locally now with some hyperscalers pulling out of communities that don't want them there. We believe that as Americans continue to adopt more and more Bitcoin, that they will care where the infrastructure that secures that Bitcoin is located. You don't want that infrastructure being located in countries and dominated by China or Russia or Iran. We need to build a large percentage of that infrastructure in the United States if Americans are gonna put the value of their assets into Bitcoin and believe in that store of value.
Speaker #4: again, Bryan. This is Asher speaking. One thing that people don't think about as much today is the community's impact and their ability to choose what infrastructure that's built in.
Speaker #4: You're starting to see this more locally now, with some hyperscalers pulling out of communities that don't want them there. We believe that as Americans continue to adopt more and more Bitcoin, they will care where the infrastructure that secures that Bitcoin is located.
Speaker #4: You don't want that infrastructure being located in countries and dominated by China or Russia or Iran. We need to build a large percentage of that infrastructure in the United States if Americans are going to put the value of their assets into Bitcoin and believe in that store of value.
Speaker #4: So we think number one, there's going to be a community impact that wants to make sure that they can help contribute to the overall Bitcoin network.
Asher Genoot: We think, number one, there's going to be a community impact that wants to make sure that they can help contribute to the overall Bitcoin network. Secondly, not all loads are created equal. If we think about the load profiles of AI data centers versus Bitcoin compute and Bitcoin mining, they're very, very different. Use our Vega site, for example. Our Vega site is located in a co-op territory in Amarillo, Texas, right outside in Vega. What makes that site unique is we are now way over 95% of the overall co-op territory load profile. During peak coincidental moments, the utility is gonna want that co-op to load shed. Unless we load shed, that's going to create an issue for them in their transition delivery charges.
Speaker #4: Secondly, not all loads are created equal. If we think about the load profiles of AI data centers versus Bitcoin compute, and Bitcoin mining, they're very, very different.
Speaker #4: Use our Vega site, for example. Our Vega site is located in a co-op territory in Amarillo, Texas, right outside in Vega. And what makes that site unique is we are now way over 95% of the overall co-op territory load profile.
Speaker #4: And so during peak coincidental moments, the utility is going to want that co-op to load shed. And unless we load shed, that's going to create an issue for them in their transition delivery charges.
Asher Genoot: By having the ability to have a curtailable load, which is what Bitcoin is, we're able to consume low-cost power because we have a behind-the-meter site that's interconnected to the grid at the wind farm at the Vega facility. Meanwhile, we're able to support the grid when they need, and AI loads today just cannot do that. Number 1, the reason why you'll be able to continue to grow is because we're able to consume power and profiles of power that other assets and data centers and manufacturing facilities won't. Second, we believe that something that isn't spoken about today is communities will have much more of a say of what gets built into their backyards.
Speaker #4: ability to have a curtailable load, which is what Bitcoin is, we're able to And so by having the consume low-cost power because we have a behind-the-meter site that's interconnected to the grid at the wind farm at the Vega facility.
Speaker #4: But meanwhile, we're able to support the grid when they need an AI load today just cannot do that. And so number one, the reason why you'll be able to continue to grow is because we're able to consume power and profiles of power that other assets and data centers and manufacturing facilities won't.
Speaker #4: And second, we today is communities will have much more of believe that's something that isn't spoken about a say of what gets built into their backyards and by increasing Bitcoin adoption across the US, we think there'll be more and more support to make sure that the Bitcoin security stays within the US as
Asher Genoot: By increasing Bitcoin adoption across the US, we think there'll be more and more support to make sure that the Bitcoin security stays within the US as well.
Speaker #4: well. Your next question comes
Operator: Your next question comes from Fedor Shabalin with B. Riley Securities. Your line is open.
Speaker #2: from Fedor Shabalon Securities. Your line is with B Riley
Speaker #2: Thank you very much, Operator. And
Fedor Shabalin: Thank you very much, operator, and good morning, everyone. My question is about your treasury strategy. Do you consider any kind of active management of your holdings, such as issuing preferred instruments or any other kind of hybrid securities like some of your peers have done? The second part of the question is, what are your expectations for consolidation in the digital asset treasury space, and how you think about opportunistic M&A? Thank you.
Speaker #5: good morning, everyone. My question is about your treasury strategy. Do you consider any kind of active management of your holdings such as issuing preferred instruments or any other kind of hybrid securities like some of your peers have done?
Speaker #5: And the second part of the question is what are your expectations for consolidation in the digital asset treasury space and how do you think about opportunistic M&A?
Speaker #5: Thank
Speaker #5: you. Yeah,
Asher Genoot: Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for that question. When we think about our possibilities of bringing on additional capital from the debt markets, from the convert markets, from the fixed income markets, we see that it is a multi-pronged strategy that we can deploy at different stages of the company. Fixed income is a massive market globally. In many markets internationally, fixed income is larger than equity markets. When you have high yield being at about 7% annually, when you look at any 5-year CAGR of Bitcoin since the course of its existence, being in the double digits, last 5 years being 50%, that is a clear arbitrage. When we look at fixed income relative to the stage of our company today, we're focused on building our collateral package and increasing our equity value.
Speaker #6: absolutely. Thank you for that question. When we think about our realm of possibilities of bringing on additional capital from the debt markets, from the convert markets, from the fixed income markets, we see that it is a multi-pronged strategy.
Speaker #6: That we can deploy at different stages of the company. Fixed income is a massive market. Globally, in many markets internationally, fixed income is larger than equity markets.
Speaker #6: And when you have high yield being at about 7% annually and when you look at the five any five-year CAGR of Bitcoin, since the course of its existence, being in the double digits last five years being 50%, that is a clear arbitrage but when we look at fixed income relative to the stage of our company today, we're focused on building our collateral package and increasing our equity value.
Speaker #6: When we look at bringing on debt, we understand how cyclical Bitcoin can be and the volatility. What we're focused on is solving for tenure, solving for downside protection, and not being backed into a corner of having any margin. This is an incredible market, as demonstrated by Sailor and his professional preferred products.
Asher Genoot: When we look at bringing on debt, we understand how cyclical Bitcoin can be and the volatility, and what we're focused on is solving for tenure, solving for downside protection, and not having the, not being backed into a corner of having any margin calls. Fixed income is a incredible market, as demonstrated by Saylor and his perpetual preferred products. It is something that we will closely monitor. For the time being, we'll be looking at increasing our equity holdings to increasing our stack. To your second question, when we think about M&A, M&A is, there are other considerations when we look at other treasury companies. It's not as simple as purchasing their shares or purchasing their Bitcoin holdings at par. I think we'll continue exploring opportunities as they come.
Speaker #6: It is something that we will closely monitor for the time being. We'll be looking at increasing our equity holdings to increasing our calls. stack.
Speaker #6: And to your second question, when we think about M&A, there are other fixed income considerations when we look at other treasury companies.
Speaker #6: It's not as simple as purchasing their shares or purchasing their Bitcoin holdings at par. I think we'll continue exploring opportunities as they come.
Speaker #4: And then when we look at the other treasury companies that exist out there, if a company is trading under MNAV, M&A reality is when you announce an M&A transaction, from the point you announce to when you close, and we know all too much about it through our merger from US Bitcoin Corp to Hadei, and then our merger from American Bitcoin to in theory would be a creative. Griffin, it takes time.
Speaker #4: And then when we look at the other treasury companies that exist out there, if a company is trading under MNAV, M&A reality is when you announce an M&A transaction, from the point you announce to when you close, and we know all too much about it through our merger from US Bitcoin Corp to Hadei, and then our merger from American Bitcoin to in theory would be a creative.
Asher Genoot: When we look at the other treasury companies that exist out there, if a company's trading under MNAV, M&A in theory would be accretive. The reality is when you announce an M&A transaction, from the point you announce to when you close, and we know all too much about it through our merger from US Bitcoin Corp to Hut 8 and then our merger from American Bitcoin to Gryphon, it takes time. You have to go through the SEC review process. During that period of time, does that company trade above MNAV because of the announcement of the merger and what happens there? Also, a lot of the companies that have gone public have gone public through reverse mergers.
Speaker #4: SEC review process. And during that period of time, does that company trade above MNAV because of the announcement of the merger and what happens there?
Speaker #4: companies have gone public, have gone public through reverse mergers. That means they were existing operating businesses more likely than not that weren't very, very strong, which is The Also, a lot of the why they were willing to do a reverse merger.
Asher Genoot: That means they were existing operating businesses, more likely than not that weren't very, very strong, which is why they were willing to do a reverse merger. You also take on the skeletons and the baggage for those existing operating businesses. Although on paper it looks extremely accretive, we're also sensitive to execution risk and the ability to actually capture that accretive value creation that pencils out. We're actively looking at the markets, both at what are interesting targets, but also which ones allow us to actually execute and play out that thesis.
Speaker #4: And so you also take on the skeletons and the baggage for those existing operating businesses. And so, although on paper it looks extremely accretive, we're also sensitive to execution risk and the ability to actually capture that accretive value creation that pencils out.
Speaker #4: So we're actively looking at the markets, both at what are interesting targets and which ones allow us to actually execute and play out that thesis.
Speaker #2: Your next question comes from Chris Brendler with Rosenblad. Your line is open.
Operator: Your next question comes from Chris Brendler with Rosenblatt. Your line is open.
Chris Brendler: Hi. Thanks. Good morning. Congrats on the inaugural results here. I'd like to hear a little more about your expansion strategy, especially when it comes to ASICs. You know, I guess the initial thoughts on the U form factor at the Vega site and how that's going, and where you expect to lean into ASICs from a manufacturer, from a cooling perspective and from an efficiency perspective. Thanks.
Speaker #5: inaugural results here. I'd like to hear a little more about your expansion strategy, especially when it comes to Hi, thanks. ASICs. Sort of the initial I Good morning and congrats on the guess the initial thoughts on the UFORM factor at the Vega site and how that's going and where you expect to lean into ASICs from a manufacturer, from a cooling perspective and from an efficiency perspective.
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Speaker #6: Thanks for that question. Vega was a first-of-its-kind where we are bringing direct-to-chip liquid cooling and a UFORM factor as commonly found in traditional data centers.
Mike Ho: Thanks for that question. Vega was a first of its kind, where we are bringing direct to chip liquid cooling in a U form factor as commonly found in traditional data centers. Our Vega deployment carries some of the highest efficiencies available in the market for ASICs. Demonstrated by this quarter, for example, the average hash price was around $0.056. Based on the efficiency of our Vega deployment, our gross profitability was about $0.18 per kilowatt hour, when you take the denomination of $0.01 per kilowatt hour. When we look at ASIC purchases, we introduced the novel concept of being able to pledge Bitcoin against the purchase. What that allows us to do is maintain our Bitcoin upside.
Speaker #6: Our Vega deployment carries some of the highest efficiencies for ASICs. This quarter demonstrated that, for example, the average hash price in the market was around 5.6 cents.
Speaker #6: Based on the efficiency of our Vega deployment, our gross profitability was about 18 cents per kilowatt hour. When you take the denomination of a cent per kilowatt hour, when we look at ASIC purchases, we introduced the novel concept of being able to pledge Bitcoin against the purchase.
Speaker #6: What that allows us to do is maintain our Bitcoin upside. When companies look to purchase ASICs, they take dilution, they take in US dollars, and they swap that US dollar exposure for ASICs.
Mike Ho: When companies look to purchase ASICs, they take dilution, they take in US dollars, and they swap that US dollar exposure for ASICs. Our pledge concept allows us to maintain our Bitcoin upside optionality while introducing a second vertical of upside of Bitcoin exposure through the ASICs. We will continue monitoring opportunities where we underwrite the profitability and availability of the ASICs when it is accretive to our shareholders. The considerations we will take there is where are our hash price assumptions, what is the price per terahash, what is the efficiency, what we see on the roadmap in terms of future generations of ASICs and their efficiencies as well.
Speaker #6: Our pledge concept allows us to maintain our Bitcoin upside optionality while introducing a second vertical of upside of Bitcoin exposure through the ASICs. We will continue monitoring opportunities where we underwrite the profitability and availability of the ASICs when it's accretive to our shareholders. The considerations we'll take there are: where are our hash price assumptions?
Speaker #6: What is the price per terahash? What is the efficiency? What do we see on the roadmap in terms of future generations of ASICs and their efficiencies?
Speaker #6: Well, once again, if you would like to.
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Mike Ho: We really appreciate everyone for listening in today on our inaugural earnings call. The story to take away from this call is that American Bitcoin is a very young company, started 31 March, a little over 7 months old. We're a public company that's about 3 months old as well. Nasdaq told us during our bell ringing, we're probably one of the fastest public companies to have gone public from inception to bell ringing. What we're excited by is what we've done during that period of time and the foundation that's setting for the future. We've increased Bitcoin per share. We've become one of the largest miners in the world essentially overnight. We've been able to mine Bitcoin at almost a 50% discount to the markets. Our Bitcoin per share has increased roughly 50% since we've gone public in the last 3 months.
Speaker #4: Everyone, thank you for listening in today on our inaugural earnings call. The story to take away from this call is that American Bitcoin is a very young company.
Speaker #4: Started on March 31st, a little over seven months old. We're a public company that's about three months old as well. Nasdaq told us during our bell ringing that we're probably one of the fastest public companies to have gone public from inception to bell ringing.
Speaker #4: What we're excited by is what we've done during that period of time and the foundation that's being set for the future. We've increased Bitcoin per share.
Speaker #4: We've become one of the largest miners in the world, essentially overnight. And we've been able to mine Bitcoin at almost a 50% discount to the markets.
Speaker #4: Our Bitcoin per share has increased roughly 50% since we've gone public in the last three months. And so when you think about American Bitcoin, it is what are you investing in?
Mike Ho: When you think about American Bitcoin, it is what are you investing in? What is the future of this company? Our goal is simple, increase Bitcoin per share and allow shareholders to have a yield on their underlying Bitcoin. We are able to achieve that through three structural advantages. 1, we have a philosophical advantage. We believe that hash rate and the securitization of this Bitcoin network should be in the United States. We are building assets in communities where you have excess generation that's built with transmission systems and large loads that cannot go there. We've been able to continue to grow and get support from communities that we build. The 2 is this unique relationship between American Bitcoin and Hut 8. American Bitcoin is able to invest in ASICs through these unique and bespoke seller financing structures.
Speaker #4: What is the future of this company? Our goal is simple: increase Bitcoin per share and allow shareholders to have a yield on their underlying Bitcoin.
Speaker #4: And we are able to achieve that through three structural advantages. One, we have a philosophical advantage. We believe that hash rate and the securitization of this Bitcoin network should be in the United States.
Speaker #4: We are building assets in communities where you have excess generation that's built with transmission systems in large loads that cannot go there. And we've been able to continue to grow and get support from communities that we built.
Speaker #4: The second is this unique relationship between American Bitcoin and Hadei. American Bitcoin is able to invest in ASICs through these unique and bespoke seller financing structures; meanwhile, American meanwhile, Hadei is able to invest in the infrastructure stack.
Mike Ho: Meanwhile, Hut 8 is able to invest in the infrastructure stack. Hut 8 can ask for a longer return because they're long megawatts, and American Bitcoin can focus on spending its capital on assets that it wants a 2-year payback and to be able to generate through Bitcoin mining. Many companies who have that ambition are unable to do it unless they have 2 large public vehicles that are able to invest in infrastructure and invest in Bitcoin in a very synergistic way. Lastly, the economical advantage that we have. As we've seen, playing out this strategy is working. We have been able to mine Bitcoin at a 56% gross margin this last quarter. That includes energy costs. That includes the co-location fees that we have for Hut 8, and so that doesn't fall into the D&A line.
Speaker #4: Hadei can ask for a longer return because they're a long megawatt. And American Bitcoin can focus on spending its capital on assets that it wants a two-year payback and to be able to generate through Bitcoin mining.
Speaker #4: Many companies who have that ambition are unable to do it unless they have two large public vehicles that are able to invest in infrastructure and invest in Bitcoin in a very synergistic way.
Speaker #4: And lastly, the economic advantage that we have. As we've seen, playing out this strategy is working. We have been able to mine Bitcoin at a 56% gross margin this last quarter.
Speaker #4: That includes energy costs. That includes the colocation fees that we have for Hadei, and so that doesn't fall into the DNA line. As we think about the overall advantage that we have, our energy costs alone only made up a much smaller percentage of the Bitcoin that we mined.
Mike Ho: As we think about the overall advantage that we have, our energy costs alone only made up for a much smaller percentage of the Bitcoin that we mined. We had about a 69% margin when we think about real-time energy rates relative to our mining exahash. What we're very excited by is the opportunity to show the growth trajectory of this company, why we're not a Bitcoin mining company, why we're not a treasury company. We take the best of those worlds and are building a world-class accumulator that is able to increase Bitcoin per share for our shareholders in the long term.
Speaker #4: We had about a 69% margin when we think about real-time energy rates relative to our mining exahash. What we're very excited about is the opportunity to show the growth trajectory of this company.
Speaker #4: Why we're not a Bitcoin mining company? Why we're not a treasury company? We take the best of those worlds and are building a world-class accumulator that is able to increase Bitcoin per share for our shareholders in the long
Speaker #1: And
Speaker #1: And guys, maybe I'll wrap up with this really to term. the co-founders of this company. Mike and Asher, they've put every aspect of their heart and soul into this company.
Eric Trump: Guys, maybe I'll wrap up with this really to the co-founders of this company, Mike Ho and Asher Genoot. They've put every aspect of their heart and soul into this company. To Matt Prusak, he's doing such an incredible job every single day. We are deeply committed. There's no team in the world that could have come as far as we have in seven and a half months. Every single day, I look as we leapfrog company after company, many of them, quite frankly, being our friends, as we climb the Bitcoin ladder. I believe in this asset as much as any asset, and I'm a hard asset guy. I always have been. You look back exactly 24 months ago when Bitcoin was at $36,500, and look how far we've come.
Speaker #1: To Matt, he's doing such an incredible job every single day. We are deeply committed. There's no team in the world that could have come as far as we have in seven and a half months.
Speaker #1: And every single day, I look as we leapfrog company after company, many of them, quite frankly, being our friends, as we climb the Bitcoin ladder.
Speaker #1: I believe in this asset as much as any asset. And I'm a hard asset guy. I always have been. You look back exactly 24 months ago, exactly 24 months ago, and Bitcoin was at $36,500.
Speaker #1: And look how far we've come. It has been the number one performing asset over the last decade. It is an asset that's wanted worldwide as we speak at every single conference around the globe.
Eric Trump: It has been the number one performing asset over the last decade. It is an asset that's wanted worldwide as we speak at every single conference around the globe. People are embracing it. People are treasuring it. People are putting it on the balance sheets from the biggest companies to the biggest family offices to the largest governments. We could not be more thrilled to be in this race. Anytime we get into a race, we get into that race to win. That's certainly what we wanna do and will do here. There's really two races. Who can accumulate the most Bitcoin, who can accumulate the most Bitcoin cheapest? I believe with every ounce of my heart and soul, we're gonna win the second race.
Speaker #1: People are embracing it. People are treasuring it. People are putting it on the balance sheets from the biggest companies to the biggest family offices to the largest governments.
Speaker #1: And we could not be more thrilled to be in this race. Anytime we get into a race, we get into that race to win.
Speaker #1: And that's certainly what we want to do and will do here and there's really two races. Who can accumulate the most Bitcoin? And who can accumulate the most Bitcoin cheapest?
Speaker #1: And I believe, with every ounce of my heart and soul, we're going to win the second race. We are going to accumulate the most Bitcoin, and we're going to do it the cheapest, based on all the structural advantages that you just heard about.
Eric Trump: We are going to accumulate the most Bitcoin, and we're gonna do it the cheapest based on all the structural advantages that you just heard about. To all the analysts out there, thank you. Many of you have become friends. We really appreciate you following our journey, and we look forward to seeing everybody soon. I think that concludes the call.
Speaker #1: So all the analysts out there, thank you. Many of you have become friends. We really appreciate you following our journey. And we look forward to seeing everybody soon.
Speaker #1: And I think that concludes the call.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful rest of your day.