Q4 2025 CleanSpark Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Colby, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome you to CleanSpark's fiscal full year 2025 earnings results.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Colby, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome you to the CleanSpark's fiscal full year 2025 earnings results. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise, and after the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question at that time, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and enter the queue. If you'd like to withdraw your question at any time, simply press star one again. Thank you. Harry, you may begin your conference.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Colby, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome you to the CleanSpark's fiscal full year 2025 earnings results. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise, and after the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question at that time, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and enter the queue. If you'd like to withdraw your question at any time, simply press star one again. Thank you. Harry, you may begin your conference.
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Harry Sudock: Thanks, Colby, and thank you for joining us today to review the fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2025 financial results for CleanSpark. We encourage you to review our earnings results press release, which was issued today and is available on our website. Our 10-K will be filed shortly. A webcast replay and transcript of today's call will be added to our website once available. On the call today, I am joined by Matt Schultz, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Gary Vecchiarelli, our President and Chief Financial Officer. Some of the statements we make today will be forward-looking based on our best view of the world and our business as we see them today. The statements and information provided remain subject to the risk factors disclosed in our 10-K. We will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures concerning our performance during today's call.
Harry Sudock: Thanks, Colby, and thank you for joining us today to review the fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2025 financial results for CleanSpark. We encourage you to review our earnings results press release, which was issued today and is available on our website. Our 10-K will be filed shortly. A webcast replay and transcript of today's call will be added to our website once available. On the call today, I am joined by Matt Schultz, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Gary Vecchiarelli, our President and Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker #2: Colby, thank you for joining us today to review the fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2025 financial results for CleanSpark. We encourage you to review our earnings results press release, which was issued today and is available on our website.
Speaker #2: Our 10-K will be filed shortly. A call will be added to our website once I am joined by Matt Schultz, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Gary Vecchiarelli.
Speaker #2: Officer, some of the statements we make today will be forward-looking, based on our best view of the world and our business as we see them today.
Some of the statements we make today will be forward-looking based on our best view of the world and our business as we see them today. The statements and information provided remain subject to the risk factors disclosed in our 10-K. We will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures concerning our performance during today's call. You can find the reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures in our press release, which is available on our website. With that, it's my pleasure to introduce Matt Schultz.
Speaker #2: The statements and information provided remain our 10-K. We will also measures concerning our performance during today's discuss certain non-GAAP financial On the call today, I call.
Speaker #2: The statements and information provided remain our 10-K. We will also measures concerning our performance during today's discuss certain non-GAAP financial On the call today, I subject to the risk factors disclosed in reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures in You can find the our press release, which is available on our website.
Harry Sudock: You can find the reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures in our press release, which is available on our website. With that, it's my pleasure to introduce Matt Schultz.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Harry.
S. Matthew Schultz: Thanks, Harry. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'm so excited to have stepped back into the role of CEO of CleanSpark this past August after serving as Executive Chairman for the past five years. In my first 100 days, the team has been relentlessly cementing our current leadership position in Bitcoin mining while simultaneously positioning us to evolve our portfolio. We've also set a strategic direction for CleanSpark going forward as a digital infrastructure platform serving a wide range of compute opportunities. These opportunities include, but are not limited to, generative AI, workloads, grid balancing through Bitcoin mining, and high-performance computing broadly. I've also had the opportunity to meet with many of you listening to today's call.
Matt Schultz: Thanks, Harry. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'm so excited to have stepped back into the role of CEO of CleanSpark this past August after serving as Executive Chairman for the past five years. In my first 100 days, the team has been relentlessly cementing our current leadership position in Bitcoin mining while simultaneously positioning us to evolve our portfolio. We've also set a strategic direction for CleanSpark going forward as a digital infrastructure platform serving a wide range of compute opportunities. These opportunities include, but are not limited to, generative AI, workloads, grid balancing through Bitcoin mining, and high-performance computing broadly. I've also had the opportunity to meet with many of you listening to today's call.
Speaker #3: Afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'm so excited to step back into the role.
Speaker #3: of CEO of CleanSpark this past August after serving as executive chairman for the past five years. In my first 100 days, the team has been, and with that, it's my relentlessly cementing our current Schultz.
Speaker #3: Leadership position in Bitcoin mining while simultaneously positioning us to evolve our portfolio. We've also set a strategic direction for CleanSpark going forward as a digital infrastructure platform serving a wide range of compute opportunities.
Speaker #3: These opportunities include, but are not limited to, generative AI, workloads, grid balancing through Bitcoin mining, and high-performance computing broadly. I've also had the opportunity to meet with many of you listening to today's call.
Speaker #3: Your enthusiasm for the future of CleanSpark's business means the world to us, and we're excited to execute our strategic plan and extend our track record of operational excellence into AI factories.
S. Matthew Schultz: Your enthusiasm for the future of CleanSpark's business means the world to us, and we're excited to execute our strategic plan and extend our track record of operational excellence into AI factories. As the company has matured, I'm inspired by our world-class team and operating business, our strong balance sheet, and, most excitingly, our growing power and land portfolio across the US and the optionality it represents. Together, all of these elements are evolving into a diversified compute platform to serve the needs of the next digital age. I've taken stock of what we built, and I want to share with you just how well-prepared the company is for this moment in time. While Bitcoin mining remains foundational to our business, we recognize that our expertise in securing power, developing infrastructure, and deploying at scale uniquely positions us to support the fast-growing demand for AI compute.
Your enthusiasm for the future of CleanSpark's business means the world to us, and we're excited to execute our strategic plan and extend our track record of operational excellence into AI factories. As the company has matured, I'm inspired by our world-class team and operating business, our strong balance sheet, and, most excitingly, our growing power and land portfolio across the US and the optionality it represents. Together, all of these elements are evolving into a diversified compute platform to serve the needs of the next digital age. I've taken stock of what we built, and I want to share with you just how well-prepared the company is for this moment in time. While Bitcoin mining remains foundational to our business, we recognize that our expertise in securing power, developing infrastructure, and deploying at scale uniquely positions us to support the fast-growing demand for AI compute.
Speaker #3: As the company has matured, I'm inspired by our business. Our strong balance sheet and, most excitingly, our growing power and land portfolio across the U.S. and the optionality it represents.
Speaker #3: Together, all of these world-class team and operating elements are evolving into a need for the next digital diversified compute platform to serve the age.
Speaker #3: I've taken stock of what we built, and I want to share with you just how well prepared the company is for this moment in time.
Speaker #3: While Bitcoin mining remains foundational to our business, we recognize that our expertise in securing power, developing infrastructure, and deploying at scale uniquely positions us to support the fast-growing demand for AI compute.
Speaker #3: A blended approach to growing and monetizing our portfolio serves to diversify revenue, enhance margin, and build long-term shareholder value. 2025 was the year CleanSpark achieved escape velocity, reaching 50 exahash per second with a 100% U.S.-based operational hash rate, supported by our infrastructure and managed by our operations and technology teams.
S. Matthew Schultz: A blended approach to growing and monetizing our portfolio serves to diversify revenue, enhance margin, and build long-term shareholder value. 2025 was the year CleanSpark achieved escape velocity, reaching 50x a hash per second in operational hash rate with 100% US-based infrastructure and run by our operations and technology teams. We delivered record revenues and demonstrated capital stewardship by not issuing a single share through an equity offering throughout this calendar year, all without slowing down our growth. I'm proud to share a few financial highlights from our 2025 fiscal year. We achieved record revenues of $766 million. Our gross margin was 55%. Now, that's a 1% decrease year over year. This small decrease is actually impressive due to this being the first full year post-halving when the Bitcoin block rewards were reduced by 50%.
A blended approach to growing and monetizing our portfolio serves to diversify revenue, enhance margin, and build long-term shareholder value. 2025 was the year CleanSpark achieved escape velocity, reaching 50x a hash per second in operational hash rate with 100% US-based infrastructure and run by our operations and technology teams. We delivered record revenues and demonstrated capital stewardship by not issuing a single share through an equity offering throughout this calendar year, all without slowing down our growth. I'm proud to share a few financial highlights from our 2025 fiscal year. We achieved record revenues of $766 million. Our gross margin was 55%. Now, that's a 1% decrease year over year. This small decrease is actually impressive due to this being the first full year post-halving when the Bitcoin block rewards were reduced by 50%.
Speaker #3: We delivered record revenues and demonstrated capital stewardship by not issuing a single share throughout the calendar year. All without slowing down our equity offering during this growth.
Speaker #3: I'm proud to share a few financial highlights from our 2025 fiscal year. We achieved record revenues of $766 million; our gross margin was 55%.
Speaker #3: 1% decrease year over Now, that's a being the first full year year. actually impressive due to this This small decrease is were reduced by 50%.
S. Matthew Schultz: Our Bitcoin treasury grew by nearly 62% to over 13,000, generated entirely from our wholly owned and operated hash rate. This puts us in a fundamentally different position relative to treasury companies purchasing spot Bitcoin, since we mine it at greater than a 55% gross margin, and we're actively monetizing our holdings. We now have a sustainable, self-funded mining business thanks to our industry-leading mining team, and they're backed by an innovative digital asset management operation that's generating meaningful premiums and leveraging our treasury balance as a truly productive asset. We're in the process of deploying the 19,000 S21 XP immersion units that have an industry-leading 13.5 J/TH. It's beginning this quarter, and we expect that process to be complete in calendar Q1 2026.
Our Bitcoin treasury grew by nearly 62% to over 13,000, generated entirely from our wholly owned and operated hash rate. This puts us in a fundamentally different position relative to treasury companies purchasing spot Bitcoin, since we mine it at greater than a 55% gross margin, and we're actively monetizing our holdings. We now have a sustainable, self-funded mining business thanks to our industry-leading mining team, and they're backed by an innovative digital asset management operation that's generating meaningful premiums and leveraging our treasury balance as a truly productive asset. We're in the process of deploying the 19,000 S21 XP immersion units that have an industry-leading 13.5 J/TH. It's beginning this quarter, and we expect that process to be complete in calendar Q1 2026.
Speaker #3: nearly 62% to over 13,000, Our Bitcoin treasury grew by generated entirely from our wholly owned and operated hash rate. This puts us in post-halving, when the Bitcoin block rewards a fundamentally different position relative to treasury companies purchasing spot Bitcoin since we mine it at greater than a 55% gross margin and we're actively monetizing our holdings.
Speaker #3: We now have a sustainable, self-funded mining team, and they're backed by an innovative digital asset management operation that's generating meaningful premiums and leveraging our treasury business, thanks to our industry-leading balance as a truly productive asset.
Speaker #3: We're in the process of deploying the 19,000 S21 XP immersion units that have an industry-leading 13.5 joules per terahash. It's beginning this quarter, and we expect that process to be complete in calendar Q1 of '26.
S. Matthew Schultz: While this timeline is a bit longer than we had initially contemplated, our priority was a comprehensive portfolio review to ensure that we would not consume any AI-applicable megawatts with this deployment. We have always had an infrastructure-first thesis. We avoided the asset-light strategies of past cycles, and we prioritized control of power and infrastructure, given the fundamental scarcity we're now seeing borne out in the market. Scaling our mining business required securing and developing a world-class power and land portfolio, and growing significant supply chain, engineering, construction, and operational capabilities, all highly relevant as we evolve into AI data center development. Today, we have more than a gigawatt of power under contract live in our data centers and infrastructure. Additionally, we have nearly 300MW in Texas fully contracted and scheduled to begin energization in early 2027, coupled with a multi-gigawatt pipeline of additional near-term opportunities.
While this timeline is a bit longer than we had initially contemplated, our priority was a comprehensive portfolio review to ensure that we would not consume any AI-applicable megawatts with this deployment. We have always had an infrastructure-first thesis. We avoided the asset-light strategies of past cycles, and we prioritized control of power and infrastructure, given the fundamental scarcity we're now seeing borne out in the market. Scaling our mining business required securing and developing a world-class power and land portfolio, and growing significant supply chain, engineering, construction, and operational capabilities, all highly relevant as we evolve into AI data center development. Today, we have more than a gigawatt of power under contract live in our data centers and infrastructure. Additionally, we have nearly 300MW in Texas fully contracted and scheduled to begin energization in early 2027, coupled with a multi-gigawatt pipeline of additional near-term opportunities.
Speaker #3: A bit longer than we had initially expected. Now, while this timeline is contemplated, our priority was a comprehensive portfolio review to ensure that we would not consume any AI-applicable megawatts with this deployment.
Speaker #3: We have always had an infrastructure-first thesis. We avoided the asset-light strategies of past cycles, and we prioritized control given the fundamental scarcity we're now seeing borne out in the market.
Speaker #3: Required securing and developing a scaling of our mining business, world-class power and land portfolio, and growing significant supply chain engineering, construction, and operational capabilities. All highly relevant as we evolve into AI data center development.
Speaker #3: a gigawatt of power under contract, live in our data centers and Today, we have more than infrastructure. Additionally, we have nearly 300 megawatts in Texas, fully contracted, and scheduled to begin energization in early 2027.
Speaker #3: Coupled with a multi-gigawatt pipeline of additional near-term opportunities, many of these locations are excellent candidates for AI campuses, Bitcoin mining, load balancing, and securing the grid.
S. Matthew Schultz: Importantly, many of these locations are excellent candidates for AI campuses, while others are best positioned for Bitcoin mining, load balancing, and securing the grid. Our objective is clear: to deliver each megawatt to its optimal use case. We have always had an internal philosophy of people first. As we look to expand our business, that was true in the earliest days of microgrid development. It was true as we grew into a Bitcoin mining company. It was clearly a winning strategy when we hired Taylor Monagh to lead us to the forefront of immersion cooling, and most recently, it remains true as we added Jeff Thomas to lead our AI data center initiatives following his successful tenure as President at Humane. We've accomplished three key initial steps in our business evolution thus far with Jeff on board.
Importantly, many of these locations are excellent candidates for AI campuses, while others are best positioned for Bitcoin mining, load balancing, and securing the grid. Our objective is clear: to deliver each megawatt to its optimal use case. We have always had an internal philosophy of people first. As we look to expand our business, that was true in the earliest days of microgrid development. It was true as we grew into a Bitcoin mining company. It was clearly a winning strategy when we hired Taylor Monagh to lead us to the forefront of immersion cooling, and most recently, it remains true as we added Jeff Thomas to lead our AI data center initiatives following his successful tenure as President at Humane. We've accomplished three key initial steps in our business evolution thus far with Jeff on board.
Speaker #3: Our objective is clear: to deliver each megawatt to its optimal use case. We have always had an internal philosophy of 'people first.' As we look to expand our business, that philosophy was true in the earliest days of microgrid development.
Speaker #3: It was true, as we grew into a Bitcoin mining company. It was clearly a winning strategy when we hired Taylor Monagh to lead us to the forefront of emerging cooling.
Speaker #3: And most recently, it remains true as we added Jeff Thomas to lead our AI data center initiatives. Following his successful tenure as president at Humane, we've accomplished three key initial steps in our business evolution thus far with Jeff on board.
Speaker #3: The first thing is we reviewed our diverse portfolio to identify the most productive use of every single megawatt. Second, we secured a 285 megawatt site in Texas with the explicit intent of building an AI factory for a high-quality tenant.
S. Matthew Schultz: The first thing is we reviewed our diverse portfolio to identify the most productive use of every single megawatt. Second, we secured a 285-megawatt site in Texas with the explicit intent of building an AI factory for a high-quality tenant. Three, we're aligning and expanding our internal team, in conjunction with market-leading partners, to deliver projects on time and on budget that meet the exacting needs of offtake customers. When we took a close look at our facilities, it became clear that our 250-megawatt site in Sandersville, Georgia, provides an immediate opportunity to host a large-scale tenant. Other sites surrounding the Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport, totaling over 100 megawatts with ready access to fiber, are already in extremely high demand. In Texas, the site we recently acquired just outside of Houston will be the location of our first exclusively purpose-built AI factory.
The first thing is we reviewed our diverse portfolio to identify the most productive use of every single megawatt. Second, we secured a 285-megawatt site in Texas with the explicit intent of building an AI factory for a high-quality tenant. Three, we're aligning and expanding our internal team, in conjunction with market-leading partners, to deliver projects on time and on budget that meet the exacting needs of offtake customers. When we took a close look at our facilities, it became clear that our 250-megawatt site in Sandersville, Georgia, provides an immediate opportunity to host a large-scale tenant. Other sites surrounding the Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Airport, totaling over 100 megawatts with ready access to fiber, are already in extremely high demand. In Texas, the site we recently acquired just outside of Houston will be the location of our first exclusively purpose-built AI factory.
Speaker #3: And three, we're aligning and expanding our internal team in conjunction with market-leading partners to deliver projects on time and on budget that meet the exacting needs of off-take customers.
Speaker #3: When we took a close look at our facilities, it became clear that our 250 megawatt site in Sandersville, Georgia, provides an immediate opportunity to host a large-scale tenant.
Speaker #3: Other sites surrounding the Atlanta Hartsfield Airport totaling over 100 megawatts with ready access to fiber demand. In Texas, the site we are already in, extremely high, recently acquired just outside of Houston, will be the location of our first exclusively purpose-built AI factory.
Speaker #3: We hold 271 contiguous acres of land located on a regional fiber backbone and have executed 285 megawatts in long-term power supply agreements that have already been fully approved by ERCOT.
S. Matthew Schultz: We hold 271 contiguous acres of land located on a regional fiber backbone and have executed 285 megawatts in long-term power supply agreements that have already been fully approved by ERCOT. Better still, the site is located near several high-capacity natural gas pipelines, which are being evaluated for industrial scale behind-the-meter generation opportunities. This purchase positions us to deliver scalable, resilient, and energy-efficient capacity to meet demand from AI, cloud, and enterprise workload, and represents a key step in our long-term strategy to leverage our vertically integrated infrastructure-first model. While this may be our first purpose-built facility, it certainly won't be our last. The entire team is focused on first securing tenants for Sandersville and Houston, which will then drive efforts to take the projects from commercialization to commissioning. Long-term tenants represent a superior risk-adjusted profile, return profile, pardon me, for these assets rather than direct GPU exposure initially.
We hold 271 contiguous acres of land located on a regional fiber backbone and have executed 285 megawatts in long-term power supply agreements that have already been fully approved by ERCOT. Better still, the site is located near several high-capacity natural gas pipelines, which are being evaluated for industrial scale behind-the-meter generation opportunities. This purchase positions us to deliver scalable, resilient, and energy-efficient capacity to meet demand from AI, cloud, and enterprise workload, and represents a key step in our long-term strategy to leverage our vertically integrated infrastructure-first model. While this may be our first purpose-built facility, it certainly won't be our last. The entire team is focused on first securing tenants for Sandersville and Houston, which will then drive efforts to take the projects from commercialization to commissioning. Long-term tenants represent a superior risk-adjusted profile, return profile, pardon me, for these assets rather than direct GPU exposure initially.
Speaker #3: Better still, the site is located near several high-capacity natural gas pipelines that are being evaluated for industrial opportunities. This scale behind-the-meter generation purchase positions us to deliver scalable, resilient, and energy-efficient capacity to meet demand from AI, cloud, and enterprise workloads, and represents a key step in our long-term strategy to leverage our vertically integrated, infrastructure-first model.
Speaker #3: While this may be our first purpose-built facility, it certainly won't be our last. The entire team is focused on first securing tenants for Sandersville and Houston, which will then drive efforts to take the risk-adjusted projects from commercialization to commissioning.
Speaker #3: Profile return profile—pardon me—for these assets rather than direct initially. Similar to past GPU exposure industrial revolutions, the long-term ecosystem, power companies, chip companies, hyperscalers, infrastructure technology providers, and others are all collaborating, and we're in direct discussions at every level to deliver maximum value for our customers and our shareholders.
S. Matthew Schultz: Similar to past industrial revolutions, AI represents a new ecosystem. Power companies, chip companies, hyperscalers, infrastructure technology providers, and others are all collaborating, and we're in direct discussions at every level to deliver maximum value for our customers and our shareholders. Jeff has been building the full lifecycle playbook for AI campus development and operations that best serve this ecosystem. Together, his growing team is already vetting potential tenants, building high-quality site commercialization plans for our pipeline, and defining our project delivery roadmap. As part of those efforts, we entered into a memorandum of understanding with Submer, a global pioneer in liquid-cooled and prefabricated data center solutions. Its end-to-end capabilities, spanning from liquid cooling systems and mechanical, electrical, and plumbing modules to full facility builds, set new benchmarks in energy efficiency, density, and sustainability, making them an ideal partner for CleanSpark's growth strategy.
Similar to past industrial revolutions, AI represents a new ecosystem. Power companies, chip companies, hyperscalers, infrastructure technology providers, and others are all collaborating, and we're in direct discussions at every level to deliver maximum value for our customers and our shareholders. Jeff has been building the full lifecycle playbook for AI campus development and operations that best serve this ecosystem. Together, his growing team is already vetting potential tenants, building high-quality site commercialization plans for our pipeline, and defining our project delivery roadmap. As part of those efforts, we entered into a memorandum of understanding with Submer, a global pioneer in liquid-cooled and prefabricated data center solutions. Its end-to-end capabilities, spanning from liquid cooling systems and mechanical, electrical, and plumbing modules to full facility builds, set new benchmarks in energy efficiency, density, and sustainability, making them an ideal partner for CleanSpark's growth strategy.
Speaker #3: Jeff has been building the full lifecycle playbook for AI campus development and operations that best serve this ecosystem. Together, his growing team is already vetting potential tenants, building high-quality site commercialization plans for our pipeline, and defining our project delivery roadmap.
Speaker #3: As part of those efforts, we entered into a memorandum of understanding with SUBMER, a global pioneer in liquid-cooled and prefabricated data center solutions. Its end-to-end capabilities, spanning from liquid cooling systems and mechanical, electrical, and plumbing modules to full facility builds, set new benchmarks in energy efficiency, density, and sustainability, making them an ideal partner for CleanSpark's growth strategy.
Speaker #3: This relationship is our first step in taking elements of the construction process away from the data center and putting them into the factory, with approved reference architecture designs to support a broad range of tenant requirements.
S. Matthew Schultz: This relationship is our first step in taking elements of the construction process away from the data center and putting them into the factory with approved reference architecture designs to support a broad range of tenant requirements. Together, we're working on an infrastructure platform that integrates power generation, data center development, and AI service delivery. Under this framework, CleanSpark focuses on selecting, developing, building, and operating AI-focused campuses, while Submer will offer its technology and expertise as a strategic vendor in delivering sustainable modular data center systems. Meanwhile, we completed our largest financing ever with a $1.15 billion upsized 0% convertible note. Gary, our President and CFO, will discuss the finer details and numbers momentarily. Before I pass it over to him, there are some elements I'd like to highlight.
This relationship is our first step in taking elements of the construction process away from the data center and putting them into the factory with approved reference architecture designs to support a broad range of tenant requirements. Together, we're working on an infrastructure platform that integrates power generation, data center development, and AI service delivery. Under this framework, CleanSpark focuses on selecting, developing, building, and operating AI-focused campuses, while Submer will offer its technology and expertise as a strategic vendor in delivering sustainable modular data center systems. Meanwhile, we completed our largest financing ever with a $1.15 billion upsized 0% convertible note. Gary, our President and CFO, will discuss the finer details and numbers momentarily. Before I pass it over to him, there are some elements I'd like to highlight.
Speaker #3: Together, we're working on an infrastructure platform that integrates power generation, data center development, and AI service delivery. Under this framework, CleanSpark focuses on selecting, developing, building, and operating AI-focused campuses, while Submer will offer its technology and expertise as a strategic vendor in delivering sustainable, modular data center systems.
Speaker #3: Meanwhile, we completed our largest financing ever: $1.15 billion with an upsized 0% convertible note. Gary, our President and CFO, will discuss the finer details and numbers momentarily.
Speaker #3: But before I pass it over to him, there are some elements I'd like to highlight. The terms are even better than our prior raise in December 2024.
S. Matthew Schultz: The terms are even better than our prior raise in December 2024, with the same 0% interest rate, a higher 27.5% conversion premium, and a 6.25-year term. This financing provides the resources to expand our power and land portfolio, seed our first AI deployments, and continue investing in strategic growth opportunities. As part of this transaction, we bought back $460 million worth of our own stock, more than a 10% reduction in outstanding shares. We've once again bet on ourselves, and we will succeed the CleanSpark way. With that, I'll hand it over to Gary to take you through the financial results both for the quarter and the full year. Over to you, Gary. Thank you, Matt. I'd like to start by reviewing the numbers for the entire 12-month fiscal period, which was a landmark year for CleanSpark.
The terms are even better than our prior raise in December 2024, with the same 0% interest rate, a higher 27.5% conversion premium, and a 6.25-year term. This financing provides the resources to expand our power and land portfolio, seed our first AI deployments, and continue investing in strategic growth opportunities. As part of this transaction, we bought back $460 million worth of our own stock, more than a 10% reduction in outstanding shares. We've once again bet on ourselves, and we will succeed the CleanSpark way. With that, I'll hand it over to Gary to take you through the financial results both for the quarter and the full year. Over to you, Gary.
Speaker #3: With the same 0% interest rate, a higher 27.5% conversion premium, and a 6.25-year term, this financing provides the resources to expand our power and land portfolio, seed our first AI deployments, and continue investing in strategic growth opportunities.
Speaker #3: And as part of this transaction, we bought back $460 million worth of our own stock, more than a 10% reduction in outstanding shares.
Speaker #3: Gary.
Gary Vecchiarelli: Thank you, Matt. I'd like to start by reviewing the numbers for the entire 12-month fiscal period, which was a landmark year for CleanSpark.Our revenue grew more than 100% year over year to $766.3 million, with almost 8,000 Bitcoin produced. The major driver of this increase was due to a combination of our growth in exahash and Bitcoin price. Our full-year gross margin was 55%, which we're particularly proud of given that this was the first full year post-halving. These margins remained relatively in line with the prior year, which is attributed to the significant increases in efficiency our fleet had over the last 12 months. Also contributing to our gross margin consistency is our average marginal cost per Bitcoin, which was slightly below $43,000 for the fiscal year, while our average revenue per Bitcoin was approximately $98,000. Our margins and cost per Bitcoin represent the strength of our infrastructure quality, our world-class teams, and commitment to managing our business to profitability and margin rather than any single operating metric.
Speaker #2: Thank you,
Speaker #2: Matt, I'd like to start by reviewing the numbers for the entire 12-month fiscal period, which was a landmark year for CleanSpark. Our revenue grew more than 100% year over year to $763.3 million, with almost 8,000 Bitcoin produced.
S. Matthew Schultz: Our revenue grew more than 100% year over year to $766.3 million, with almost 8,000 Bitcoin produced. The major driver of this increase was due to a combination of our growth in exahash and Bitcoin price. Our full-year gross margin was 55%, which we're particularly proud of given that this was the first full year post-halving. These margins remained relatively in line with the prior year, which is attributed to the significant increases in efficiency our fleet had over the last 12 months. Also contributing to our gross margin consistency is our average marginal cost per Bitcoin, which was slightly below $43,000 for the fiscal year, while our average revenue per Bitcoin was approximately $98,000. Our margins and cost per Bitcoin represent the strength of our infrastructure quality, our world-class teams, and commitment to managing our business to profitability and margin rather than any single operating metric.
Speaker #2: The major driver of this increase was due to a combination for our growth in exahash and Bitcoin price. Our full-year gross margin was 55%, which we're re particularly proud of given that this was the first full-year post-halving.
Speaker #2: Relatively in line with the prior year, which is attributed to the significant increases in efficiency our fleet had over the last 12 months.
Speaker #2: Also contributing to our gross margin consistency is our average marginal cost per Bitcoin, which was slightly below $43,000 for the fiscal year, while our average revenue per Bitcoin was approximately $98,000.
Speaker #2: Our margins and cost per Bitcoin represent the strength of our infrastructure quality, our world-class teams, and our commitment to managing our business to profitability and margin, rather than any single operating metric.
Speaker #2: Our high margins translated to an adjusted EBITDA of over $800 million, which I must point out does not adjust for certain non-cash items, such as the mark-to-market on the fair value of Bitcoin.
S. Matthew Schultz: Our high margins translated to an adjusted EBITDA of over $800 million, which I must point out does not adjust for certain non-cash items such as the mark-to-market on fair value of Bitcoin. When normalized by excluding our gain on the fair value of Bitcoin, the adjusted EBITDA from operations would be approximately $305 million, which represents a net margin of approximately 40%. Additionally, the combination of increases in margins, and fair value of the 13,000-plus Bitcoin we have on the balance sheet, contributed to a significant positive net income of about $365 million. Looking at the most recent quarter-over-quarter performance, we also saw significant gains between the third and fourth quarters. Our revenue increased by approximately $25 million, or 13%, in Q4 versus Q3, and our margins increased two points to 56.5%.
Our high margins translated to an adjusted EBITDA of over $800 million, which I must point out does not adjust for certain non-cash items such as the mark-to-market on fair value of Bitcoin. When normalized by excluding our gain on the fair value of Bitcoin, the adjusted EBITDA from operations would be approximately $305 million, which represents a net margin of approximately 40%. Additionally, the combination of increases in margins, and fair value of the 13,000-plus Bitcoin we have on the balance sheet, contributed to a significant positive net income of about $365 million. Looking at the most recent quarter-over-quarter performance, we also saw significant gains between the third and fourth quarters. Our revenue increased by approximately $25 million, or 13%, in Q4 versus Q3, and our margins increased two points to 56.5%.
Speaker #2: When normalized, by excluding our gain on the fair value of Bitcoin, the adjusted EBITDA from operations would be approximately $305 million, which represents a net margin of approximately 40%.
Speaker #2: Additionally, the combination of increases in margins and fair value of the 13,000-plus Bitcoin we have on the balance sheet contributed to a significant positive net income of about $365 million.
Speaker #2: Looking at the most recent quarter-over-quarter performance, we also saw significant gains between the third and fourth quarters. Our revenue increased by approximately $25 million, or 13%, in Q4 versus Q3, and our margins increased two points to 56.5%.
Speaker #2: It's important to note that we achieved 50 exahash in June. While that remained our operational high for the fourth quarter, we still experienced increases in revenue and mining economics during the quarter.
S. Matthew Schultz: It's important to note that we achieved 50 exahash in June, and while that remained our operational high for the fourth quarter, we still experienced increases in revenues and margins because of favorable mining economics during the quarter. Our high uptime also allowed us to capture periods of significant appreciation in Bitcoin price. In the fourth quarter, we recognized a slight net loss compared to the third quarter. This was due to a much larger gain on fair value of Bitcoin during the third quarter, and non-cash tax adjustments recorded at our fiscal year end. Our adjusted EBITDA margins also saw similar changes, which is inclusive of the non-cash mark-to-market adjustment on fair value of Bitcoin. However, when adjusting any non-cash mark-to-market effect, our normalized adjusted EBITDA was $97 million for the fourth quarter, a 25% increase over the $78 million normalized in the third quarter.
It's important to note that we achieved 50 exahash in June, and while that remained our operational high for the fourth quarter, we still experienced increases in revenues and margins because of favorable mining economics during the quarter. Our high uptime also allowed us to capture periods of significant appreciation in Bitcoin price. In the fourth quarter, we recognized a slight net loss compared to the third quarter. This was due to a much larger gain on fair value of Bitcoin during the third quarter, and non-cash tax adjustments recorded at our fiscal year end. Our adjusted EBITDA margins also saw similar changes, which is inclusive of the non-cash mark-to-market adjustment on fair value of Bitcoin. However, when adjusting any non-cash mark-to-market effect, our normalized adjusted EBITDA was $97 million for the fourth quarter, a 25% increase over the $78 million normalized in the third quarter.
Speaker #2: Our high uptime also allowed us to capture periods of significant appreciation in Bitcoin price. In the fourth quarter, we recognized a slight net loss compared to the third quarter.
Speaker #2: was due to a much larger gain on fair value of Bitcoin during the third quarter and non-cash tax adjustments recorded at our fiscal year-end.
Speaker #2: Our adjusted EBITDA margins also saw similar changes, which are inclusive of the non-cash mark-to-market adjustment on the fair value of Bitcoin. However, when adjusting for any non-cash mark-to-market effect, our normalized adjusted EBITDA was $97 million for the fourth quarter, a 25% increase over the $78 million normalized in the third quarter.
Speaker #2: This translates to margins of $43 and 39%, respectively. Going forward, we do expect that our professional fees, payroll, and G&A line items will increase as we execute on our AI strategy.
S. Matthew Schultz: This translates to margins of 43% and 39%, respectively. Going forward, we do expect that our professional fees, payroll, and G&A line items will increase as we execute on our AI strategy. Additionally, I will point out that the AI data center business comes with stable cash flows and high margins, both of which will help CleanSpark through the peaks and valleys of Bitcoin mining economics. Our escape velocity translates to operating leverage. We have developed scaled data center infrastructure that is delivering revenue and margin necessary to self-sustain and further support incremental investment in AI data center capabilities as we evolve into a power, land, and compute platform. Turning our attention to the balance sheet, I want to point out that we are one of the first, if not the only company, which has a scaled cash-flowing business that is also using Bitcoin as a productive capital asset.
This translates to margins of 43% and 39%, respectively. Going forward, we do expect that our professional fees, payroll, and G&A line items will increase as we execute on our AI strategy. Additionally, I will point out that the AI data center business comes with stable cash flows and high margins, both of which will help CleanSpark through the peaks and valleys of Bitcoin mining economics. Our escape velocity translates to operating leverage. We have developed scaled data center infrastructure that is delivering revenue and margin necessary to self-sustain and further support incremental investment in AI data center capabilities as we evolve into a power, land, and compute platform. Turning our attention to the balance sheet, I want to point out that we are one of the first, if not the only company, which has a scaled cash-flowing business that is also using Bitcoin as a productive capital asset.
Speaker #2: Additionally, I will point out that the AI data center business comes with stable cash flows and high margins, both of which will help CleanSpark through the peaks and valleys of Bitcoin mining economics.
Speaker #2: Our escape velocity translates to operating leverage. We have developed scaled data center infrastructure that is delivering revenue and margin necessary to self-sustain and further support incremental investment in AI data center capabilities as we evolve into a power, land, and compute platform.
Speaker #2: Turning our attention to the balance sheet, I want to point out that we are one of the first, if not the only company, which has a scaled cash-flowing business that is also using Bitcoin as a productive capital asset.
S. Matthew Schultz: The utilization of our Bitcoin stack resides in a team we refer to as Digital Asset Management, or DAM. The fourth quarter was the first full quarter of DAM activity, and we are extremely excited to share in more detail the steps we have taken in our crawl phase. Two initial strategies rolled out by DAM are our Spot Plus and Yield strategies. Both utilize covered calls, but Spot Plus is designed to optimize for the cash needs of the business, while Yield is designed to generate go-forward, risk-adjusted output from our treasury holdings. Given that we are monetizing a significant portion of our monthly Bitcoin production, the Spot Plus strategy delivers a tactical uplift to cash generated on a weekly, monthly, and quarterly basis. This program functions smoothly because of the consistent output from our world-class operations and strong uptime.
The utilization of our Bitcoin stack resides in a team we refer to as Digital Asset Management, or DAM. The fourth quarter was the first full quarter of DAM activity, and we are extremely excited to share in more detail the steps we have taken in our crawl phase. Two initial strategies rolled out by DAM are our Spot Plus and Yield strategies. Both utilize covered calls, but Spot Plus is designed to optimize for the cash needs of the business, while Yield is designed to generate go-forward, risk-adjusted output from our treasury holdings. Given that we are monetizing a significant portion of our monthly Bitcoin production, the Spot Plus strategy delivers a tactical uplift to cash generated on a weekly, monthly, and quarterly basis. This program functions smoothly because of the consistent output from our world-class operations and strong uptime.
Speaker #2: Bitcoin stack resides in a team we refer to as Digital Asset Management The utilization of our or DAM. The fourth quarter was the first full quarter of DAM activity, and we are extremely excited to share in more detail the steps we have taken in our crawl phase.
Speaker #2: Two initial strategies rolled out by DAM are our Spot Plus and Yield strategies. Both utilize covered calls. However, Spot Plus is designed to optimize for the cash needs of the business, while Yield is designed to generate go-forward risk-adjusted output from our treasury holdings.
Speaker #2: Given that we are monetizing a significant portion of our monthly Bitcoin production, the Spot Plus strategy delivers a tactical uplift to cash generated on a weekly, monthly, and quarterly basis.
Speaker #2: This program functions smoothly because of the consistent output from our world-class operations and strong uptime. We are able to utilize this approach because of the investment we have made in making DAM a true institutional-grade platform.
S. Matthew Schultz: We are able to utilize this approach because of the investment we have made in making DAM a true institutional-grade platform. It began with a comprehensive RFP for a range of products that you have heard us discuss on prior calls, and executing these option overlays requires a disciplined approach to risk management. Rather than selling Bitcoin through the spot market, we utilize at or near-the-money covered calls to generate both option premium and realized proceeds if and when we ultimately get called away on these contracts. Our yield strategy utilizes covered calls as well, but instead of high delta short duration, we shift delta and extend our latter term to reduce the likelihood of exercise. Under our yield program, we saw an annualized yield of approximately 12% on a blended basis.
We are able to utilize this approach because of the investment we have made in making DAM a true institutional-grade platform. It began with a comprehensive RFP for a range of products that you have heard us discuss on prior calls, and executing these option overlays requires a disciplined approach to risk management. Rather than selling Bitcoin through the spot market, we utilize at or near-the-money covered calls to generate both option premium and realized proceeds if and when we ultimately get called away on these contracts. Our yield strategy utilizes covered calls as well, but instead of high delta short duration, we shift delta and extend our latter term to reduce the likelihood of exercise. Under our yield program, we saw an annualized yield of approximately 12% on a blended basis.
Speaker #2: It began with a comprehensive RFP for a range of products that you have heard us discuss on prior calls. Executing these option overlays requires a disciplined approach to risk management.
Speaker #2: Rather than selling Bitcoin through the spot market, we utilize app or near-the-money covered calls to generate both option premium and realized proceeds if and when we ultimately get called away on these contracts.
Speaker #2: Our yield strategy utilizes covered calls as well. But instead of high delta, short duration, we shift the delta and extend or ladder the term to reduce the likelihood of exercise.
Speaker #2: Under our yield program, we saw an annualized yield of approximately 12% on a blended basis. In addition, as we scale our strategy and increase the volume, we believe there is room to incrementally increase the annualized yield and cash generated, potentially significantly.
S. Matthew Schultz: In addition, as we scale our strategy and increase the volume, we believe there is room to incrementally increase the annualized yield and cash generated, potentially significantly. While the fourth quarter represents a period when we were still in the crawl phase of the strategy, we were nonetheless able to generate a total of $9.3 million in premiums. To illustrate what that represents, our average spot Bitcoin sales price for the quarter was $111,721. However, when considering the additional premiums generated per Bitcoin of $4,184, the all-in effective cash generated per Bitcoin was almost $116,000, a material uplift. One of the early wins for the DAM team was the successful monetization of costless Bitcoin repurchase options received as part of a Bitmain miner procurement contract from the third quarter.
In addition, as we scale our strategy and increase the volume, we believe there is room to incrementally increase the annualized yield and cash generated, potentially significantly. While the fourth quarter represents a period when we were still in the crawl phase of the strategy, we were nonetheless able to generate a total of $9.3 million in premiums. To illustrate what that represents, our average spot Bitcoin sales price for the quarter was $111,721. However, when considering the additional premiums generated per Bitcoin of $4,184, the all-in effective cash generated per Bitcoin was almost $116,000, a material uplift. One of the early wins for the DAM team was the successful monetization of costless Bitcoin repurchase options received as part of a Bitmain miner procurement contract from the third quarter.
Speaker #2: While the fourth quarter represents a period when we're still in the crawl phase of the strategy, we were nonetheless able to generate a total of $9.3 million in premiums.
Speaker #2: To illustrate what that represents, our average spot Bitcoin sales price for the quarter was $111,721. However, when considering the additional premiums generated per Bitcoin, a $4,184, the all-in effective cash generated per Bitcoin was almost $116,000, a material uplift.
Speaker #2: One of the early wins for the DAM team was the successful monetization of costless Bitcoin repurchase options received as part of a Bitmain miner procurement contract from the third quarter.
Speaker #2: This was an excellent example of how our investment in the Digital Asset Management function can help us complete the arc of opportunities driven by our world-class mining operations.
S. Matthew Schultz: This was an excellent example of how our investment in the Digital Asset Management function can help us to complete the arc of opportunities driven by our world-class mining operations. While our mining operations drove leverage in preferential terms to obtain mining rigs, DAM was able to monetize that option, which would have otherwise expired worthless, driving $7 million of additional cash to the balance sheet. Due to the performance of DAM to date, we have increased the volume of transactions subsequent to our fiscal year end. In October alone, we traded more contracts than the total number of contracts traded during the entire fourth quarter. Additionally, we generated over $5 million in cash premiums for the month of October alone. The last leg of our current strategy involves writing puts.
This was an excellent example of how our investment in the Digital Asset Management function can help us to complete the arc of opportunities driven by our world-class mining operations. While our mining operations drove leverage in preferential terms to obtain mining rigs, DAM was able to monetize that option, which would have otherwise expired worthless, driving $7 million of additional cash to the balance sheet. Due to the performance of DAM to date, we have increased the volume of transactions subsequent to our fiscal year end. In October alone, we traded more contracts than the total number of contracts traded during the entire fourth quarter. Additionally, we generated over $5 million in cash premiums for the month of October alone. The last leg of our current strategy involves writing puts.
Speaker #2: Our mining operations drove leverage, and while preferential terms to obtain mining rigs allowed us to monetize that option—which would have otherwise expired worthless—we drove an additional $7 million of cash to the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: Due to the performance of DAM to date, we have increased the volume of transactions subsequent to our fiscal year-end. In October alone, we traded more contracts than the total number of contracts traded during the entire fourth quarter.
Speaker #2: Additionally, we generated over $5 million in cash premiums for the month of October alone. The last leg of our current strategy involves writing puts.
Speaker #2: The put transactions we enter into are cash secured, primarily using the premiums previously generated under the Spot Plus and Yield programs. While this cash corpus is still growing, we saw analyzed returns of 8% on the put strategy.
S. Matthew Schultz: The put transactions we enter into are cash secured, primarily using the premiums previously generated under the Spot Plus and Yield programs. While this cash corpus is still growing, we saw annualized returns of 8% on the put strategy. These three strategies do two things. First, they integrate into our operating business with the enhanced sale of production, and second, create a capital flywheel as they relate to our balance sheet. I would also like to add that the results we are seeing in DAM do not necessarily translate directly to telling the story via US GAAP accounting. While all pieces are reflected across the income statement and balance sheet, there are certain punitive treatments of non-cash mark-to-market valuations at contract expiry. What we think is important about these tables is that, once again, CleanSpark is at the cutting edge of real, non-hyperbolic strategies paired with full, market-leading transparency.
The put transactions we enter into are cash secured, primarily using the premiums previously generated under the Spot Plus and Yield programs. While this cash corpus is still growing, we saw annualized returns of 8% on the put strategy. These three strategies do two things. First, they integrate into our operating business with the enhanced sale of production, and second, create a capital flywheel as they relate to our balance sheet. I would also like to add that the results we are seeing in DAM do not necessarily translate directly to telling the story via US GAAP accounting. While all pieces are reflected across the income statement and balance sheet, there are certain punitive treatments of non-cash mark-to-market valuations at contract expiry. What we think is important about these tables is that, once again, CleanSpark is at the cutting edge of real, non-hyperbolic strategies paired with full, market-leading transparency.
Speaker #2: These three strategies do two things. First, they integrate into our operating business with the enhanced sale of production, and second, create a capital flywheel as they relate to our balance sheet.
Speaker #2: I would also like to add that the results we are seeing in DAM do not necessarily translate directly to telling the story via U.S. GAAP accounting.
Speaker #2: While all pieces are reflected across the income statement and balance sheet, there are certain punitive treatments of non-cash mark-to-market evaluations at contract expiry. What we think is important about these tables is that once again, CleanSpark is at the cutting edge of real, non-hyperbolic strategies.
Speaker #2: Paired with full market-leading transparency, these tables can be found in the management's discussion and analysis section of our Form 10-K. I want to note that U.S. GAAP rules separate the accounting for covered call exercises into two different line items for what is, in substance, a single transaction.
S. Matthew Schultz: These tables can be found in the management's discussion analysis section of our Form 10-K. I want to note that US GAAP rules separate the accounting for covered call exercises into two different line items for what is, in substance, a single transaction. These two line items on the income statement are loss on derivative contracts, and gain on fair value of Bitcoin. This is important because there are two sides of the same transaction. For example, the difference between the spot price at expiry and the strike price is shown as a loss on derivative contracts, while the corresponding markup in Bitcoin value to the spot price is recorded separately as a gain on fair value of Bitcoin, offsetting that non-cash loss with a non-cash gain. Taken together, they reflect the economic outcome of our covered call program, which continues to generate attractive risk-adjusted returns.
These tables can be found in the management's discussion analysis section of our Form 10-K. I want to note that US GAAP rules separate the accounting for covered call exercises into two different line items for what is, in substance, a single transaction. These two line items on the income statement are loss on derivative contracts, and gain on fair value of Bitcoin. This is important because there are two sides of the same transaction. For example, the difference between the spot price at expiry and the strike price is shown as a loss on derivative contracts, while the corresponding markup in Bitcoin value to the spot price is recorded separately as a gain on fair value of Bitcoin, offsetting that non-cash loss with a non-cash gain. Taken together, they reflect the economic outcome of our covered call program, which continues to generate attractive risk-adjusted returns.
Speaker #2: These two line items on the income statement are loss on derivative contracts and gain on fair value of Bitcoin. This is important because there are two sides to the same transaction.
Speaker #2: For example, the difference between the spot price at expiry and the strike price is shown as a loss on derivative contracts, while the corresponding markup in Bitcoin value to the spot price is recorded separately as a gain on the fair value of Bitcoin.
Speaker #2: Offsetting that non-cash loss with a non-cash gain, taken together, they reflect the economic outcome of our covered call program, which continues to generate attractive risk-adjusted returns.
Speaker #2: I also want to point out that the Bitmain option was effectively costless to us. However, GAAP required us to bifurcate option value, even though the contract didn't explicitly state a value for a portion of the ASIC contract.
S. Matthew Schultz: I also want to point out that the Bitmain option was effectively costless to us. However, GAAP required us to bifurcate a portion of the ASIC contract to the option value, even though the contract did not explicitly state a value. That value of $6.8 million was recorded at contract inception in the third quarter. As the option ultimately expired out of the money, had we not taken steps to monetize the option, we would have had a non-cash write-off of that $6.8 million. However, instead, we generated almost $7 million of cash on that option, which under GAAP considered it to be a net gain of approximately $200,000, even though we ended up with $7 million more cash in the bank at the end of the day.
I also want to point out that the Bitmain option was effectively costless to us. However, GAAP required us to bifurcate a portion of the ASIC contract to the option value, even though the contract did not explicitly state a value. That value of $6.8 million was recorded at contract inception in the third quarter. As the option ultimately expired out of the money, had we not taken steps to monetize the option, we would have had a non-cash write-off of that $6.8 million. However, instead, we generated almost $7 million of cash on that option, which under GAAP considered it to be a net gain of approximately $200,000, even though we ended up with $7 million more cash in the bank at the end of the day.
Speaker #2: That value of $6.8 million was recorded at contract inception in the third quarter. As the option ultimately expired out of the money, had we not taken steps to monetize the option, we would have had a non-cash write-off of that $6.8 million.
Speaker #2: However, instead, we generated almost $7 million of cash on that option, which under GAAP is considered to be a net gain of approximately $200,000, even though we ended up with $7 million more cash in the bank at the end of the day.
Speaker #2: The overall takeaway is that the Digital Asset Management strategy has met and, in fact, exceeded our expectations thus far and has become a second source of cash generation for the business.
S. Matthew Schultz: The overall takeaway is that the Digital Asset Management strategy has met and, in fact, exceeded our expectations thus far, and become a second source of cash generation to the business. We are looking to increase the size of our team to allow for greater volume and more complex derivative trades, which we believe will not only grow the total cash generated from premiums, but also maintain attractive yields. On a final note, I'd like to take some time discussing our capital strategy. Our focus is on building a capital stack which minimizes dilution. This starts with the sale of monthly Bitcoin production to cover our monthly OpEx. We also have Bitcoin-backed lines of credit with a total capacity of $400 million. We will continue to use the lines of credit opportunistically in the marketplace for creative acquisitions.
The overall takeaway is that the Digital Asset Management strategy has met and, in fact, exceeded our expectations thus far, and become a second source of cash generation to the business. We are looking to increase the size of our team to allow for greater volume and more complex derivative trades, which we believe will not only grow the total cash generated from premiums, but also maintain attractive yields. On a final note, I'd like to take some time discussing our capital strategy. Our focus is on building a capital stack which minimizes dilution. This starts with the sale of monthly Bitcoin production to cover our monthly OpEx. We also have Bitcoin-backed lines of credit with a total capacity of $400 million. We will continue to use the lines of credit opportunistically in the marketplace for creative acquisitions.
Speaker #2: We are looking to increase the size of our team to allow for greater volume and more complex derivative trades, which we believe will not only grow the total cash generated from premiums, but also maintain attractive yields.
Speaker #2: capital strategy. Our focus is on building a capital stack On a final note, I'd like which minimizes dilution. This starts with the sale of monthly Bitcoin production to cover our monthly OPEX.
Speaker #2: We also have Bitcoin-backed lines of credit with a total capacity of $400 million. We will continue to use the lines of credit opportunistically in the marketplace for creative acquisitions.
Speaker #2: And as we previously mentioned, we issued a $1.15 billion convertible note with a coupon of 0% and a conversion premium of 27.5%. Proceeds from this transaction were used for several purposes.
S. Matthew Schultz: As we previously mentioned, we issued a $1.15 billion convertible note with a coupon of 0% and a conversion premium of 27.5%. Proceeds from this transaction were used for several purposes. First, we bought back $416 million of our stock, which represents a reduction in our outstanding shares of 10.9%. The stock buyback not only helped facilitate the convert, but we saw this as a bet on ourselves, as we see our valuation increasing given the opportunities in front of us. Second, we used over $200 million from that raise to pay off our lines of credit. It's important to note that we have access to the full $400 million line available to draw down at any time on terms we continue to believe are market-leading.
As we previously mentioned, we issued a $1.15 billion convertible note with a coupon of 0% and a conversion premium of 27.5%. Proceeds from this transaction were used for several purposes. First, we bought back $416 million of our stock, which represents a reduction in our outstanding shares of 10.9%. The stock buyback not only helped facilitate the convert, but we saw this as a bet on ourselves, as we see our valuation increasing given the opportunities in front of us. Second, we used over $200 million from that raise to pay off our lines of credit. It's important to note that we have access to the full $400 million line available to draw down at any time on terms we continue to believe are market-leading.
Speaker #2: First, we bought back $460 million of our stock, which represents a reduction in our outstanding shares of 10.9%. The stock buyback not only helped facilitate the convert, but we saw this as a bet on ourselves as we see our valuation increasing given the opportunities in front of us.
Speaker #2: Second, we used over $200 million from that raise to pay off our lines of credit. It's important to note that we have access to the full $400 million line available to draw down at any time.
Speaker #2: On terms, we continue to believe our market is leading. The remaining net proceeds from the transaction will be used to do what we have a proven track record of doing, and that is hunting for power and land.
S. Matthew Schultz: The remaining net proceeds from the transaction will be used to do what we have a proven track record of doing, and that is hunting for power and land. The acquisitions of power and land, such as the most recently announced transaction in Sealy, Texas, are expected to be permanently used for our AI data center strategy. While we are in the early innings of our AI data center journey, the market is moving quickly, and so is CleanSpark. Our conversations with opt-takers are ongoing, and it is not a matter of if, but when we will have our first customer. Details regarding financing of our data centers will be coming in future periods. However, I will tell you this: there is an abundant amount of capital at a much lower cost of capital than previously available to our mining business.
The remaining net proceeds from the transaction will be used to do what we have a proven track record of doing, and that is hunting for power and land. The acquisitions of power and land, such as the most recently announced transaction in Sealy, Texas, are expected to be permanently used for our AI data center strategy. While we are in the early innings of our AI data center journey, the market is moving quickly, and so is CleanSpark. Our conversations with opt-takers are ongoing, and it is not a matter of if, but when we will have our first customer. Details regarding financing of our data centers will be coming in future periods. However, I will tell you this: there is an abundant amount of capital at a much lower cost of capital than previously available to our mining business.
Speaker #2: The acquisitions of power and land, such as the most recently announced transaction in Sealey, Texas, are expected to be permanently used for our AI data center strategy.
Speaker #2: While we are in the early innings of our AI data center journey, the market is moving quickly, and so is CleanSpark. Our conversations with off-takers are ongoing, and it is not a matter of if, but when we will have our first customer.
Speaker #2: Details regarding the financing of our data centers will be coming in future periods. However, I will tell you this: there is an abundant amount of capital available at a much lower cost of capital than previously available to our mining business.
S. Matthew Schultz: Our venture in the AI data centers will open new pools of capital, allowing us to benefit from the significant levered rates of return the market is providing. To close out another strong and defining quarter for CleanSpark, and to discuss how these results position us for what's next, let's return to our Chairman and CEO, Matt Schultz. Thanks, Gary. Wow. As I listen to those results, I can't help but think back to the earliest days of this company and the journey we've all been on together. Our fundamental thesis on being infrastructure-focused and people-first has served us incredibly well. They are two of the reasons we have such a meaningful opportunity in front of us today to grow into an infrastructure and compute platform that maximizes the value of every megawatt. The task in front of us is clear.
Our venture in the AI data centers will open new pools of capital, allowing us to benefit from the significant levered rates of return the market is providing. To close out another strong and defining quarter for CleanSpark, and to discuss how these results position us for what's next, let's return to our Chairman and CEO, Matt Schultz.
Speaker #2: Open new pools of our venture in AI data centers will capitalize, allowing us to benefit from the significant leverage rates of return the market is providing.
Speaker #2: To close out another strong defining quarter for CleanSpark, and to discuss how these results position us for what's next, let's return to our Chairman and CEO, Matt Schultz.
Matt Schultz: Thanks, Gary. Wow. As I listen to those results, I can't help but think back to the earliest days of this company and the journey we've all been on together. Our fundamental thesis on being infrastructure-focused and people-first has served us incredibly well. They are two of the reasons we have such a meaningful opportunity in front of us today to grow into an infrastructure and compute platform that maximizes the value of every megawatt. The task in front of us is clear.We're working to secure tenants at our two initial flagship AI-ready locations while simultaneously expanding our land and power footprint to meet the market's insatiable demand.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Gary. Wow. As I listen to those results, I can't help but think back to the earliest days of this company and the journey we've all been on together.
Speaker #2: Our fundamental thesis on being infrastructure-focused and people-first has served us incredibly well. They are two of the reasons we have such a meaningful opportunity in front of us today to grow into an infrastructure and compute platform that maximizes the value of every megawatt.
Speaker #2: The task in front of us is clear. We're working to secure tenants at our two initial flagship AI-ready locations while simultaneously expanding our land and power footprint to meet the market's insatiable demand, bolstered by our strength as a scaled operator.
S. Matthew Schultz: We're working to secure tenants at our two initial flagship AI-ready locations while simultaneously expanding our land and power footprint to meet the market's insatiable demand. These efforts are made possible by our strength as a scaled Bitcoin miner, our capital markets rigor, and, critically, our company's cultural focus on operational excellence. This past summer, our operations team coined the motto, Be the standard. I had the pleasure of having them present to me what that phrase meant to all of them, and I commit to you that in each of our endeavors, you can count on CleanSpark to continue to be the standard. I want to take a moment to thank our entire team for their tireless work. I'm beyond grateful to our shareholders for their trust, and I truly appreciate all of you for joining us today.
These efforts are made possible by our strength as a scaled Bitcoin miner, our capital markets rigor, and, critically, our company's cultural focus on operational excellence. This past summer, our operations team coined the motto, Be the standard. I had the pleasure of having them present to me what that phrase meant to all of them, and I commit to you that in each of our endeavors, you can count on CleanSpark to continue to be the standard. I want to take a moment to thank our entire team for their tireless work. I'm beyond grateful to our shareholders for their trust, and I truly appreciate all of you for joining us today. With that, I'll hand it back to Harry to lead us into Q&A.
Speaker #2: market's rigor, and critically, our company's cultural focus on operational These efforts are made possible excellence. This past summer, our operations team coined the motto "Be the Standard." I had the pleasure of having them present to me what that phrase meant to all of them, and I commit to you that in each of our endeavors, you can count on CLEANSPARK to continue to be the standard.
Speaker #2: I want to take a moment to thank our entire team for their tireless work. I'm beyond grateful to our shareholders for their trust, and I truly appreciate all of you for joining us today.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll hand it back to Harry to lead us into Q&A.
S. Matthew Schultz: With that, I'll hand it back to Harry to lead us into Q&A. Thanks, Matt. We will now open up the floor to questions from the analyst community. Operator, please provide instructions and manage the queue for the Q&A session. Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and enter the queue. If you'd like to withdraw your question at any time, please press star, one again. Your first question comes from the line of Brian H. Dobson with Clear Street. Your line is open. Hey, good evening, gentlemen. Just a quick question. There's been a considerable amount of volatility in the stocks as of late.
Harry Sudock: Thanks, Matt. We will now open up the floor to questions from the analyst community. Operator, please provide instructions and manage the queue for the Q&A session.
Speaker #3: Matt, we will now open up the floor to thanks and questions from the analyst community. Operator, please provide instructions and manage the queue for the Q&A session.
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Speaker #4: Your line is open.
Brian Dobson: Hey, good evening, gentlemen. Just a quick question. There's been a considerable amount of volatility in the stocks as of late.Perhaps you could take this opportunity to give us a little bit of color on the types of conversations you're having with potential clients, and your outlook for demand in the HPC AI space over the course of the next two years.
Speaker #5: Hey, good evening, gentlemen. Just a quick question. There's been a considerable amount of volatility in the stocks as of late. Perhaps you could take this opportunity to give us a little bit of color on the types of conversations you're having with potential clients and your outlook for demand in the HPC AI space over the course of the next two quarters.
S. Matthew Schultz: Perhaps you could take this opportunity to give us a little bit of color on the types of conversations you're having with potential clients, and your outlook for demand in the HPC AI space over the course of the next two years. Yeah, absolutely. Brian, thanks for calling in, and thank you for the question. I can tell you that we've had extensive conversations. I posted on my social media, our whole team was invited to Northern California to spend some time with the team at NVIDIA. From that meeting, we've had subsequent follow-ups, and I can tell you that there is, I don't want to say a bidding war, but strong multiple-layer inquiries about Sandersville specifically, and we're starting to gain additional traction on the Sealy, Texas site. We feel like the demand is there.
Speaker #5: years. Yeah, absolutely.
Matt Schultz: Yeah, absolutely. Brian, thanks for calling in, and thank you for the question. I can tell you that we've had extensive conversations. I posted on my social media, our whole team was invited to Northern California to spend some time with the team at NVIDIA. From that meeting, we've had subsequent follow-ups, and I can tell you that there is, I don't want to say a bidding war, but strong multiple-layer inquiries about Sandersville specifically, and we're starting to gain additional traction on the Sealy, Texas site. We feel like the demand is there. Obviously, there have been some delivery challenges and credit risk on some of the other peers that maybe haven't been able to perform to the expectations, but based on the fact that we're running a company with nearly an $800 million annual run rate at 55% gross margins, we have the cash necessary to get us to that next level. We actually feel very optimistic about it.
Speaker #3: Brian, thanks for calling in, and thank you for the question. I can tell you that we've had extensive conversations. Now, I posted on my social media that our whole team was invited to Northern California to spend some time with the team at NVIDIA.
Speaker #3: subsequent follow-ups, and I can tell you that there From that meeting, we've had is I don't want to say a bidding war, but strong multiple-layer inquiries about Sandersville specifically, and we're starting to gain additional traction on the Sealey, Texas site.
Speaker #3: So, we feel like the demand is there. Obviously, there have been some delivery challenges and credit risks on some of the other peers that maybe haven't been able to perform to expectations. But we're basing this on the fact that we're running a company with nearly an $800 million annual run rate at 55% gross margins.
S. Matthew Schultz: Obviously, there have been some delivery challenges and credit risk on some of the other peers that maybe haven't been able to perform to the expectations, but based on the fact that we're running a company with nearly an $800 million annual run rate at 55% gross margins, we have the cash necessary to get us to that next level. We actually feel very optimistic about it. Yeah, outstanding. As you're thinking about various campuses, what do you think about pairing Bitcoin mining with HPC campuses to provide, call it, power usage versatility? Or do you think that they'll be separate to start? That's a really thoughtful question. We were invited by Jack Dorsey and his team to go to Dalton, Georgia, and spend some time as they launched their new domestic manufactured ASIC, the ProtoRig that's built by Block.
Speaker #3: We have the cash necessary to get us to that next level. So we actually feel very optimistic about it.
Brian Dobson: Yeah, outstanding. As you're thinking about various campuses, what do you think about pairing Bitcoin mining with HPC campuses to provide, call it, power usage versatility? Or do you think that they'll be separate to start?
Speaker #5: Yeah, outstanding. And as you're thinking about various campuses, what do you think about pairing Bitcoin mining with HPC campuses to provide, call it, power usage versatility?
Speaker #5: Or do you think that there'll be separate to Or?
Speaker #5: start?
Matt Schultz: That's a really thoughtful question. We were invited by Jack Dorsey and his team to go to Dalton, Georgia, and spend some time as they launched their new domestic manufactured ASIC, the ProtoRig that's built by Block. It was a fascinating event, but leaving the event, the CEO of the utility there in Georgia grabbed Gary, Harry, and myself and asked us to go to lunch. He shared that there's about 120 hours a year that really causes problems for the utility. He said, historically, they love Bitcoin miners because of the interruptible load. Now, we've experienced providing that service in load balancing in many of our jurisdictions. I mean, you've heard the stories about redirecting power in Georgia to a hospital when the hurricane hit or whatever the case may be.
Speaker #3: a really thoughtful question. We were invited by Jack Dorsey and his team to go to Dalton, Georgia, and spend some time as they launched their new domestic manufactured ASIC, the ProtoRig that's built by Block.
Speaker #3: And it was a fascinating event, but leaving the event, the CEO of the utility there in Georgia grabbed Gary, Harry, and myself and asked us to go to lunch.
S. Matthew Schultz: It was a fascinating event, but leaving the event, the CEO of the utility there in Georgia grabbed Gary, Harry, and myself and asked us to go to lunch. He shared that there's about 120 hours a year that really causes problems for the utility. He said, historically, they love Bitcoin miners because of the interruptible load. Now, we've experienced providing that service in load balancing in many of our jurisdictions. I mean, you've heard the stories about redirecting power in Georgia to a hospital when the hurricane hit or whatever the case may be. The takeaway from the utility was they're interested, and the fear that came from them was because Core Scientific is a big consumer of power there in Dalton, and it's historically been a flexible load.
Speaker #3: And he shared that there's about 120 hours a year that really cause problems for the utility. He said, historically, they love Bitcoin miners because of the interruptible load.
Speaker #3: Now, we've experienced providing that service in load balancing in many of our jurisdictions. I mean, you've heard the stories about redirecting power in Georgia to a hospital when the hurricane hit or whatever the case may be.
The takeaway from the utility was they're interested, and the fear that came from them was because Core Scientific is a big consumer of power there in Dalton, and it's historically been a flexible load. The concern is that extra 120 hours a year when they need somebody to be able to give back. What they specifically, the request from us, was to consider blending AI, HPC, and Bitcoin mining so a component of those loads remain interruptible. We see it as a dual-pronged strategy, and I think you'll see a lot of our sites will serve both loads.
Speaker #3: But the takeaway from the utility was their interest, and the fear that came from them was because Core Scientific is a big consumer of power there in Dalton.
Speaker #3: And it's historically been a flexible load. And the concern is that extra 120 hours a year when they need somebody to be able to give back.
S. Matthew Schultz: The concern is that extra 120 hours a year when they need somebody to be able to give back. What they specifically, the request from us, was to consider blending AI, HPC, and Bitcoin mining so a component of those loads remain interruptible. We see it as a dual-pronged strategy, and I think you'll see a lot of our sites will serve both loads. Excellent. Thank you very much for the thoughtful answer. Your next question comes from the line of Mike Colonnese with H.C. Wainwright & Co. Your line is open. Good afternoon, guys, and congrats on a strong fiscal year here. First one for me on the HPC side. They're curious, what are some of the key development milestones that investors should be on the lookout for in 2026 as it relates to the HPC strategy?
Speaker #3: So what they specifically the request from us was to consider blending AI, HPC, and Bitcoin mining so a component of those loads remain interruptible.
Speaker #3: So we see it as a dual-pronged strategy. And I think you'll see a lot of our sites will serve both loads.
Brian Dobson: Excellent. Thank you very much for the thoughtful answer.
Speaker #5: Excellent. Thank you very much for the thoughtful answer.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Colonnese with H.C. Wainwright & Co. Your line is open.
Speaker #4: Your next question comes from the line of Mike Colonies with HC Wainwright. Your line is open.
Mike Colonnese: Good afternoon, guys, and congrats on a strong fiscal year here. First one for me on the HPC side. They're curious, what are some of the key development milestones that investors should be on the lookout for in 2026 as it relates to the HPC strategy? It sounds like the near-term focus will be on deployments at your Texas and Sandersville sites, so it'd be great to get some more color there.
Speaker #5: fiscal year here. First one for me on the HPC side, they're Good afternoon, guys. And congrats on a strong curious what are some of the key development milestones that investors should be on the lookout for in 2026 as it relates to the HPC strategy?
Speaker #5: It sounds like the near-term focus will be on deployments at your Texas and Sandersville sites, so it'd be great to get some more color there.
S. Matthew Schultz: It sounds like the near-term focus will be on deployments at your Texas and Sandersville sites, so it'd be great to get some more color there. Yeah, you nailed it, Mike. I can tell you I had a conversation not with a NeoCloud or anybody like that, but actually with the Senior Director of site development for a global hyperscaler last night on my way leaving here. What he shared with us is their 2026 forecasts are so constrained that they're looking at alternative types of builds just to facilitate the needs for 2026. The takeaway from the conversation was Sandersville and Sealy, because both of them can be energized. Sandersville is live and active right now, powering 11 exahash of Bitcoin miners, but it could switch to a 200 MW critical IT load and be online in a reasonable period of time.
Matt Schultz: Yeah, you nailed it, Mike. I can tell you I had a conversation not with a NeoCloud or anybody like that, but actually with the Senior Director of site development for a global hyperscaler last night on my way leaving here. What he shared with us is their 2026 forecasts are so constrained that they're looking at alternative types of builds just to facilitate the needs for 2026. The takeaway from the conversation was Sandersville and Sealy, because both of them can be energized. Sandersville is live and active right now, powering 11 exahash of Bitcoin miners, but it could switch to a 200 MW critical IT load and be online in a reasonable period of time.
Speaker #3: Yeah, you nailed it, Mike. I can tell you I had a conversation not with a NeoCloud or anybody like that, but actually with the Senior Director of Site Development for a global hyperscaler.
Speaker #3: Last night, on my way out, he shared with us that their 2026 forecasts are so constrained that they are looking at alternative types of builds just to facilitate the needs for '26.
Speaker #3: The takeaway from the conversation was Sandersville and Sealey, because both of them can be energized. Sandersville is live and active right now, powering 11 exahash of Bitcoin miners.
Speaker #3: But it could switch to a 200 megawatt critical IT load and be online in a reasonable period of time. And I think kind of a cool thing that maybe has gone unnoticed, and that is this MOU with Submer.
S. Matthew Schultz: I think kind of a cool thing that maybe has gone unnoticed is this MOU with Submer. We don't historically, I mean, if you look at CleanSpark's past, we don't announce MOU or LOI or anything that isn't definitive or concrete. It was really important to ink that with Submer because of the way that they approach the business. Submer has approved reference architecture for AMD, for NVIDIA, and they build the entire MEP solution, so mechanical, electrical, and plumbing, with all the fiber runs. They take that out of the field, put it into the factory. A company like CleanSpark builds the powered gray shell. We contract with Submer to roll in the MEP solution specifically to the reference architecture of the end-user requirements.
I think kind of a cool thing that maybe has gone unnoticed is this MOU with Submer. We don't historically, I mean, if you look at CleanSpark's past, we don't announce MOU or LOI or anything that isn't definitive or concrete. It was really important to ink that with Submer because of the way that they approach the business. Submer has approved reference architecture for AMD, for NVIDIA, and they build the entire MEP solution, so mechanical, electrical, and plumbing, with all the fiber runs. They take that out of the field, put it into the factory. A company like CleanSpark builds the powered gray shell. We contract with Submer to roll in the MEP solution specifically to the reference architecture of the end-user requirements. Speed to market is really, really critical right now, and having that modular approach, I think, is going to be a massive differentiator for us.
Speaker #3: We don't historically, I mean, if you look at CleanSpark's past, we don't announce MOU or LOI or anything that isn't definitive or concrete. It was really important to ink that with Submer because of the way that they approached the business.
Speaker #3: Approved reference architecture for Submer has AMD and NVIDIA. They build the entire MEP solution, including mechanical, electrical, and plumbing, with all the fiber runs taken out of the field and put into the factory.
Speaker #3: So a company like CleanSpark builds the powered gray shell. We contract with Submer to roll in the MEP solution specifically to the reference architecture of the end user requirements.
Speaker #3: So, speed to market is really, really critical right now. And having that modular approach, I think, is going to be a massive differentiator for.
S. Matthew Schultz: Speed to market is really, really critical right now, and having that modular approach, I think, is going to be a massive differentiator for us. Well, that's helpful color, Matt. Appreciate that. The second one is on the Bitcoin mining side. I know you mentioned some of these near-term deployments you guys are looking to install in the first quarter. Just remind us of what your near-term expansion plans will look like for the Bitcoin mining business and existing site expansions versus any sort of new development opportunities on the greenfield side or mergers and acquisitions at this stage. Yeah. I think what you're going to see is a migration of our Bitcoin mining away from areas that are closer to major metropolitan areas that are maybe more sensitive to utility rates and into more remote locations.
Mike Colonnese: Well, that's helpful color, Matt. Appreciate that. The second one is on the Bitcoin mining side. I know you mentioned some of these near-term deployments you guys are looking to install in the first quarter. Just remind us of what your near-term expansion plans will look like for the Bitcoin mining business and existing site expansions versus any sort of new development opportunities on the greenfield side or mergers and acquisitions at this stage.
Speaker #5: Yeah, that's a helpful color, Matt.
Speaker #5: Appreciate that. And then the second one is on the Bitcoin mining side. I know you mentioned some of these near-term deployments you guys are looking to install in the first quarter.
Speaker #5: Just remind us of what your near-term expansion plans will be. How will the business and existing site look like for the Bitcoin mining expansions versus any sort of new development opportunities on the Greenfield side or mergers and acquisitions at this stage?
Matt Schultz: Yeah. I think what you're going to see is a migration of our Bitcoin mining away from areas that are closer to major metropolitan areas that are maybe more sensitive to utility rates and into more remote locations. There are a number of utilities that have either recently passed or are discussing blockchain-specific tariffs. To my point on the last question, that interruptible component of the load is in such demand that they give us favorable rates, whether it's TVA or Wyoming or any of a number of different jurisdictions, to have the offtake that allows us to flex and to assist the utility. I think what you'll see is locations like Sandersville, locations like the Metro Atlanta sites in Norcross, in College Park, etc. Those will probably be prioritized for HPC AI because of the quick access to fiber, the low-latency loads that they conserve, etc.
Speaker #3: Yeah, so I think what you're going to see is a migration of our Bitcoin mining away from areas that are closer to major metropolitan areas that are maybe more sensitive to utility rates.
Speaker #3: And into more remote locations. There are a number of utilities that have either recently passed or are discussing blockchain-specific tariffs. To my point on the last question, that interruptible component of the load is in such demand that they give us favorable rates, whether it's TVA or Wyoming or any of a number of different jurisdictions, to have the offtake that allows us to flex and assist the utility.
S. Matthew Schultz: There are a number of utilities that have either recently passed or are discussing blockchain-specific tariffs. To my point on the last question, that interruptible component of the load is in such demand that they give us favorable rates, whether it's TVA or Wyoming or any of a number of different jurisdictions, to have the offtake that allows us to flex and to assist the utility. I think what you'll see is locations like Sandersville, locations like the Metro Atlanta sites in Norcross, in College Park, etc. Those will probably be prioritized for HPC AI because of the quick access to fiber, the low-latency loads that they conserve, etc. The Bitcoin mining from those facilities will likely migrate out to some of the other locations. To answer your question directly about scale, we're at 50 exahash per second right now.
Speaker #3: So I think what you'll see is locations like Sandersville, locations like the metro Atlanta sites in Norcross, in College Park, etc. Those will probably be prioritized for HPC AI because of the quick access to fiber and the low latency loads that they can serve, etc.
The Bitcoin mining from those facilities will likely migrate out to some of the other locations. To answer your question directly about scale, we're at 50 exahash per second right now. We have 6 exahash of the S21 XP immersion miners. We had slotted out a deployment strategy. Now, we use modular immersion-cooled data centers for the vast majority of those. When we secured the 100 megawatts in Wyoming, we actually beat out a hyperscaler because Wyoming wanted to energize those megawatts today, not in three years. We have the infrastructure purchased, delivered, on hand, ready to roll to deploy these in very short order. I think what you'll see is between now and towards the end of Q1 2026, calendar Q1, you'll see that additional 6 exahash come online.
Speaker #3: And then the Bitcoin mining from those facilities will likely migrate out to some of the answer your question directly about other locations. So to scale, we're at 50 exahash per second right now.
Speaker #3: We have six exahash of the S21 XP immersion miners. We had slotted out a deployment strategy. Now, we use modular immersion-cooled data centers for the vast majority of those.
S. Matthew Schultz: We have 6 exahash of the S21 XP immersion miners. We had slotted out a deployment strategy. Now, we use modular immersion-cooled data centers for the vast majority of those. When we secured the 100 megawatts in Wyoming, we actually beat out a hyperscaler because Wyoming wanted to energize those megawatts today, not in three years. We have the infrastructure purchased, delivered, on hand, ready to roll to deploy these in very short order. I think what you'll see is between now and towards the end of Q1 2026, calendar Q1, you'll see that additional 6 exahash come online.
Speaker #3: When we secured the 100 megawatts in Wyoming, we actually beat out a hyperscaler because Wyoming wanted to energize those megawatts today and not in three years.
Speaker #3: So we have the infrastructure purchased and delivered, on hand, ready to roll to deploy these in very short order. I think what you'll see is that between now and towards the end of Q1 '26, calendar Q1, you'll see that additional six exahash come online.
Speaker #3: Above that, what you'll see is as we do fleet upgrades, not in the 250 million dollar capacity that we've historically done, but in a more disciplined, more thoughtful manner to ensure that we're protecting our share of the hash rate and supporting what we believe to be a national security issue, and that is ensuring that there's Bitcoin mining hash rate domestically.
S. Matthew Schultz: Above that, what you'll see is as we do fleet upgrades, not in the $250 million capacity that we've historically done, but in a more disciplined, more thoughtful manner to ensure that we're protecting our share of the hash rate and supporting what we believe to be a national security issue, and that is ensuring that there's Bitcoin mining hash rate domestically. We're going to take a real balanced approach at that, yet you'll see us continue to grow. Really, the differentiator is just in the fact that we have right now one of the most efficient fleets in the world. With the deployment of this 6 exahash of 13.5-joule machines, we'll have hands down the most efficient fleet around. Great. Thank you for taking my questions, Matt. Thanks, Mike. Your next question comes from the line of Paul Golding with Macquarie Research. Your line is open.
Above that, what you'll see is as we do fleet upgrades, not in the $250 million capacity that we've historically done, but in a more disciplined, more thoughtful manner to ensure that we're protecting our share of the hash rate and supporting what we believe to be a national security issue, and that is ensuring that there's Bitcoin mining hash rate domestically. We're going to take a real balanced approach at that, yet you'll see us continue to grow. Really, the differentiator is just in the fact that we have right now one of the most efficient fleets in the world. With the deployment of this 6 exahash of 13.5-joule machines, we'll have hands down the most efficient fleet around.
Speaker #3: real balanced approach at that. But you'll So we're going to take a see us continue to grow and really the differentiator is just in the fact that we have right now one of the most efficient fleets in the world.
Speaker #3: And with the deployment of this six exahash of 13.5 joule machines, we'll have, hands down, the most efficient fleet.
Speaker #3: around. questions, Matt.
Mike Colonnese: Great. Thank you for taking my questions, Matt. Thanks, Mike.
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker #3: Thanks,
Speaker #3: Mike. Your next question comes from the line
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Paul Golding with Macquarie Research. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: of Paul Golding with McQuire Capital. Your line is
Speaker #1: open. Thanks so much, and
S. Matthew Schultz: Thanks so much, and congrats on a strong finish to the year. I wanted to ask, with the 13,000 Bitcoin on the balance sheet, around $1.2 billion at fiscal year-end, and with the recent financing that you've done, how should we think about the total aspiration to build this powered land bank as you think about the opportunity to bring tenants in for HPC or to simultaneously grow your Bitcoin mining fleet, as you were just discussing? I have a follow-up. Thank you. Thanks for the question, Paul. Our turn around the Bitcoin stack really hasn't changed, right? To give you context, we consciously have stacked Bitcoin quite rapidly over an 18-month period, and that brought us about 13,000 Bitcoin on the balance sheet.
Paul Golding: Thanks so much, and congrats on a strong finish to the year. I wanted to ask, with the 13,000 Bitcoin on the balance sheet, around $1.2 billion at fiscal year-end, and with the recent financing that you've done, how should we think about the total aspiration to build this powered land bank as you think about the opportunity to bring tenants in for HPC or to simultaneously grow your Bitcoin mining fleet, as you were just discussing? I have a follow-up. Thank you.
Speaker #4: congrats on a strong finish to the year. I wanted to ask with the 13,000 Bitcoin on the balance sheet around 1.2 billion dollars that fiscal year end and with the recent financing that you've done, how should we think about the total aspiration to build this powered land bank as you think about the opportunity to bring tenants in for HPC or to simultaneously grow your Bitcoin mining fleet as you were just discussing?
Speaker #4: Thank question,
Speaker #4: you.
Gary Vecchiarelli: Thanks for the question, Paul. Our turn around the Bitcoin stack really hasn't changed, right? To give you context, we consciously have stacked Bitcoin quite rapidly over an 18-month period, and that brought us about 13,000 Bitcoin on the balance sheet. We believe that we're one of the only companies using it in the strategic way that it should be used as a capital asset. I think going forward, what you can count on from us is a few things. One, we'll continue to monetize the Bitcoin stack through yield strategies to generate some cash. Two, we'll continue to borrow against it to be opportunistic, to draw down on cash to make sure that we're nimble in the marketplace and take advantage of accretive acquisitions.
Speaker #3: Thanks for the
Speaker #3: Paul. In order to around the
Speaker #3: Bitcoin stack really hasn't changed, right? To give... And then I have a follow-up.
Speaker #3: Bitcoin quite rapidly over an 18-month period. And that brought us to about 13,000 Bitcoin on the balance sheet. you context, we consciously have stacked the companies using it in the strategic way that it should be used as a capital asset.
S. Matthew Schultz: We believe that we're one of the only companies using it in the strategic way that it should be used as a capital asset. I think going forward, what you can count on from us is a few things. One, we'll continue to monetize the Bitcoin stack through yield strategies to generate some cash. Two, we'll continue to borrow against it to be opportunistic, to draw down on cash to make sure that we're nimble in the marketplace and take advantage of accretive acquisitions. We've always said that we're not ideological about the Bitcoin balance. We're very strategic. If there comes a point in time where we needed to or we felt that the right thing to do was to part with that Bitcoin balance through sales, we most certainly would do that, and we were open to do that.
Speaker #3: So I think going forward, what you can count on from us is a few things. One, we'll continue to monetize the Bitcoin stack through yield strategies to generate some cash.
Speaker #3: against it to be Two, we'll continue to borrow opportunistic to draw down on cash to make sure that we're nimble in the marketplace and take advantage of a creative acquisitions.
We've always said that we're not ideological about the Bitcoin balance. We're very strategic. If there comes a point in time where we needed to or we felt that the right thing to do was to part with that Bitcoin balance through sales, we most certainly would do that, and we were open to do that. Because, again, we've built this entire company and even the financial wherewithal on optionality. I'll tell you that with those sales comes punitive tax treatment because we have mined those at such a low basis. We'll have to pay, we'll be a cash-paying taxpayer on those items. We take those into account when we're looking at the stack. Overall, we'll continue to use this as a form of non-dilutive capital.
Speaker #3: And we've always said that we're not ideological about the Bitcoin balance. We're very strategic. And so, if there comes a point in time where we need to or feel that the right thing to do is to part with that Bitcoin balance through sales, we most certainly would do that.
Speaker #3: And we are open to do that. Because again, we've built this entire company and even the financial you that with those sales wherewithal on optionality.
S. Matthew Schultz: Because, again, we've built this entire company and even the financial wherewithal on optionality. I'll tell you that with those sales comes punitive tax treatment because we have mined those at such a low basis. We'll have to pay, we'll be a cash-paying taxpayer on those items. We take those into account when we're looking at the stack. Overall, we'll continue to use this as a form of non-dilutive capital. Got it. Thanks, Gary. Turning to the MOU with Submer and Matt, the explanation you were just giving on how you might break out the shell development versus the MEP componentry, how should we think about the potential economic impact of that, if you can give any color?
Speaker #3: comes a punitive tax treatment because we have mined those at such a low basis. We'll have to, but I'll tell pay we'll be a cash-paying taxpayer on those items.
Speaker #3: So we take those into account when we're looking at the stack. But overall, we'll continue to use this as a form of non-dilutive funding.
Paul Golding: Got it. Thanks, Gary. Turning to the MOU with Submer and Matt, the explanation you were just giving on how you might break out the shell development versus the MEP componentry, how should we think about the potential economic impact of that, if you can give any color? Just thinking about how pricing on some colocation deals involves yield on cost, and, of course, build to suit can involve more capital, but with a partner, just looking for any additional color you could provide. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Got it. Thanks, Gary. And then turning to the MOU with SubMer and Matt, the explanation you were just giving on how you might break out the shell development versus the MEP componentry.
Speaker #4: How should we think about the potential economic impact of that if you can give any color? Just thinking about how pricing on some colocation deals involves yield on cost and, of course, still pursuit can involve more capital but with a partner just looking for any additional color you could provide.
S. Matthew Schultz: Just thinking about how pricing on some colocation deals involves yield on cost, and, of course, build to suit can involve more capital, but with a partner, just looking for any additional color you could provide. Thank you. Yeah. Great question, Paul. Thank you for joining. The Submer relationship really was born out of a prior relationship between Humane and Submer. Jeff had a working relationship with Patrick, the CEO at Submer, and we've also got Submer infrastructure deployed in our Bitcoin mining side. We're very comfortable with them, and I can tell you that the quality of the product that they deliver, it's much simpler in the Bitcoin mining side than some of the other modular immersion-cooled type companies.
Speaker #4: Thank
Speaker #4: you. Yeah.
Matt Schultz: Yeah. Great question, Paul. Thank you for joining. The Submer relationship really was born out of a prior relationship between Humane and Submer. Jeff had a working relationship with Patrick, the CEO at Submer, and we've also got Submer infrastructure deployed in our Bitcoin mining side. We're very comfortable with them, and I can tell you that the quality of the product that they deliver, it's much simpler in the Bitcoin mining side than some of the other modular immersion-cooled type companies. Because we haven't done a deployment domestically and they're just spinning up a manufacturing facility in Houston, I don't want to comment too much on what the cost per megawatt is. I can tell you in general terms that the cost to build out a megawatt of mining infrastructure is about a million bucks.
Speaker #3: Great question, Paul. Thank you for joining. So the SubMer relationship really was born out of a prior relationship between Humane and SubMer. Jeff had a working relationship with Patrick, the CEO at SubMer.
Speaker #3: And we've also got SubMer infrastructure deployed in our Bitcoin mining side. So we're very comfortable with them. I can tell you that the quality of the product they deliver is much simpler in the Bitcoin mining side than some of the other modular immersion-cooled type companies.
Speaker #3: But because we haven't done a deployment domestically and they're just spinning up a manufacturing facility in Houston, I don't want to comment too much on what the cost per megawatt is, but I can tell you in general terms that the cost to build out a megawatt of mining infrastructure is about a million bucks.
S. Matthew Schultz: Because we haven't done a deployment domestically and they're just spinning up a manufacturing facility in Houston, I don't want to comment too much on what the cost per megawatt is. I can tell you in general terms that the cost to build out a megawatt of mining infrastructure is about a million bucks. To do the same for AI and HPC, according to the reference architecture required by the major chip manufacturers, it's closer to $10 million. We also know that the mechanical, electrical, and plumbing, the MEP solution, is a pretty extensive, pretty robust build-out because you've got all those trades working inside a facility at the same time.
To do the same for AI and HPC, according to the reference architecture required by the major chip manufacturers, it's closer to $10 million. We also know that the mechanical, electrical, and plumbing, the MEP solution, is a pretty extensive, pretty robust build-out because you've got all those trades working inside a facility at the same time. Building these in a factory increases the speed to market by an order of magnitude, and the initial representations are that it saves us anywhere from 10% to 15% over a stick built in a field deployment. We believe there's cost savings and speed to market that give us a very unique competitive advantage.
Speaker #3: For AI and HPC, according to the reference architecture required by the major chip manufacturers, it's to do the same closer to 10 million. We also know that the mechanical, electrical, and plumbing (MEP) solution is a pretty extensive, pretty robust build-out because you've got all those trades working inside a facility at the same time.
Speaker #3: Building these in a factory increases the speed to market by an order of magnitude, and the initial representations are that it saves us anywhere from 10% to 15% over a stick-built field deployment.
S. Matthew Schultz: Building these in a factory increases the speed to market by an order of magnitude, and the initial representations are that it saves us anywhere from 10% to 15% over a stick built in a field deployment. We believe there's cost savings and speed to market that give us a very unique competitive advantage. Fantastic. Thanks so much, and congrats again. Thanks, Paul. Your next question comes from the line of Greg Lewis with BTIG. Your line is open. Yeah. Hi. Thank you, and good afternoon, everybody, and thanks for taking my questions. I guess, Gary or Matt, I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about the Texas facility and just kind of you mentioned it starts to energize in 2027. Is that energization, is there steps along the way?
Speaker #3: So we believe there's cost savings and speed to market that give us a very unique competitive advantage.
Paul Golding: Fantastic. Thanks so much, and congrats again.
Speaker #4: again. Fantastic. Thanks so much and congrats
Matt Schultz: Thanks, Paul.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Your next question comes from the line
Speaker #3: Paul.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Greg Lewis with BTIG. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: of Greg Lewis with BTIG. Your line is.
Speaker #1: open. Yeah.
Greg Lewis: Yeah. Hi. Thank you, and good afternoon, everybody, and thanks for taking my questions. I guess, Gary or Matt, I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about the Texas facility and just kind of you mentioned it starts to energize in 2027. Is that energization, is there steps along the way? As we think about that site longer term, is there the ability to expand at that site or potentially grow with the customer?
Speaker #5: Hi. Thank you and good afternoon, everybody. And thanks for taking my questions. I guess Gary or Matt, I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about the Texas facility and just kind of you mentioned it starts to energize in 2027.
Speaker #5: Is there energization? Are there steps along the way? And then, longer term, as we think about that site, is there the ability to expand at that site or potentially grow with the customer?
S. Matthew Schultz: As we think about that site longer term, is there the ability to expand at that site or potentially grow with the customer? Hey, Greg. It's Harry. I want to give you the rundown on Texas because I think it's a really exciting project for us, and it's the beginning of what you've seen from us across the Georgia, Tennessee, and Wyoming markets. We take a fundamental land and expand approach, which is we get a foothold, and then we know that once we have that toehold in the market, the opportunity to significantly extend our footprint is available to us. The energization schedule there is that the first 200 and change megawatts are scheduled to come online first half of 2027, and then there are two 40 MW tranches in 2028 and 2029.
Harry Sudock: Hey, Greg. It's Harry. I want to give you the rundown on Texas because I think it's a really exciting project for us, and it's the beginning of what you've seen from us across the Georgia, Tennessee, and Wyoming markets. We take a fundamental land and expand approach, which is we get a foothold, and then we know that once we have that toehold in the market, the opportunity to significantly extend our footprint is available to us. The energization schedule there is that the first 200 and change megawatts are scheduled to come online first half of 2027, and then there are two 40 MW tranches in 2028 and 2029.
Speaker #3: Hey, Greg, it's Harry. I want to give you the rundown on Texas because I think it's a really exciting project for us. And it's the beginning of what you've seen from us across the Georgia, Tennessee, and Wyoming markets, which we take a fundamental land and expand approach, which is we get a foothold and then we know that once we have that toehold in the market, the opportunity to significantly extend our footprint is available to us.
Speaker #3: The energization schedule is that the first 200 megawatts and change are scheduled to come online in the first half of 2027. Then, there are 240 megawatt tranches planned for 2028 and 2029.
Speaker #3: But what's critical is that the counterparty from whom we purchased the land and the contracted power is also among the largest substation developers in the state.
S. Matthew Schultz: What's critical is that the counterparty that we purchased the land and the contracted power from is also among the largest substation developers in the state. What we were able to step into are the long lead-time items and the placeholders that they had on those components, giving us a high degree of build certainty to land the power on the site. The second piece is that that site is fully ERCOT approved. When we look at the energization schedule, we've already passed all of the regulatory hurdles that would typically be associated with a project in the state. The final piece of what you asked that I want to touch on is about expansion.
What's critical is that the counterparty that we purchased the land and the contracted power from is also among the largest substation developers in the state. What we were able to step into are the long lead-time items and the placeholders that they had on those components, giving us a high degree of build certainty to land the power on the site. The second piece is that that site is fully ERCOT approved. When we look at the energization schedule, we've already passed all of the regulatory hurdles that would typically be associated with a project in the state. The final piece of what you asked that I want to touch on is about expansion.
Speaker #3: And so what we were able to step into are the long lead-time items and the placeholders that they had on those components, giving us a high degree of build certainty to land the power on the site.
Speaker #3: The second piece is that that site is fully ERCOT approved. And so when we look at the energization schedule, we've already passed all of the regulatory hurdles that would typically be associated with a project in the state.
Speaker #3: The final piece of what you asked that I want to touch on is about expansion. The ERCOT approval status wouldn't come with the expansion of the grid that we're looking to accomplish there.
S. Matthew Schultz: The ERCOT approval status would not come with the expansion on grid that we're looking to accomplish there, but one of the parts that was most attractive not only to the power contract at that particular location and the service point from the utility that's going to be delivering to us, but it's also the parcel that's there. We have significant land capabilities to be able to digest more power in the same type of AI data center footprint that's going to be represented by the 285. We are excited about the scalability.
The ERCOT approval status would not come with the expansion on grid that we're looking to accomplish there, but one of the parts that was most attractive not only to the power contract at that particular location and the service point from the utility that's going to be delivering to us, but it's also the parcel that's there. We have significant land capabilities to be able to digest more power in the same type of AI data center footprint that's going to be represented by the 285. We are excited about the scalability.
Speaker #3: But one of the parts that was most attractive, not only to the power contract at that particular location and the service point from the utility that's going to be delivering to us, but it's also the parcel that's there.
Speaker #3: We have significant land capabilities to be able to digest more power in the same type of AI data center footprint that's going to be represented by the 285.
Speaker #3: And so we're excited about the scalability. Matt touched on in his comments the behind-the-meter gas generation opportunity, but this is where we find ourselves at our true core competency.
S. Matthew Schultz: Matt touched on in his comments the behind-the-meter gas generation opportunity. This is where we find ourselves at our true core competency, which is being an opportunistic acquirer of land and power, not only because we're able to locate high-quality assets for our portfolio today, but also for what those assets can represent to our business going into the future. Okay. 100%. That was super helpful, guys. Hey, have a great Thanksgiving and talk to you soon. You too. Happy Thanksgiving, Greg. Your next question comes from the line of John Todaro with Needham & Company. Your line is open. Great. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats, guys, on the progress here. First question here.
Matt touched on in his comments the behind-the-meter gas generation opportunity. This is where we find ourselves at our true core competency, which is being an opportunistic acquirer of land and power, not only because we're able to locate high-quality assets for our portfolio today, but also for what those assets can represent to our business going into the future.
Speaker #3: Which is being an opportunistic acquirer of land and power, not only because we're able to locate high-quality assets for our portfolio today, but also for what those assets can represent to our business going into the future.
Greg Lewis: Okay. 100%. That was super helpful, guys. Hey, have a great Thanksgiving and talk to you soon.
Speaker #5: Okay, 100%. That was super helpful, guys. Hey, have a great Thanksgiving, and talk to you.
Speaker #5: soon. You too, Greg.
Harry Sudock: You too.
Matt Schultz: Happy Thanksgiving, Greg.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of John Todaro with Needham & Company. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Greg, the line of John Tadarro with Needham and Company. Your line is open.
John Todaro: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats, guys, on the progress here. First question here. As it relates to the AI readiness at Sandersville, just remind us if that site has forced curtailment, and then if so, really kind of how much should we earmark for HPC versus mining if you intend to kind of have both at that site?
Speaker #5: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats, guys, on the progress here. As a first question here, as it relates to the AI readiness at Sandersville, just remind us if that site has forced curtailment and then, if so, really kind of how much should we earmark for HPC versus mining if you intend to kind of have both at that.
S. Matthew Schultz: As it relates to the AI readiness at Sandersville, just remind us if that site has forced curtailment, and then if so, really kind of how much should we earmark for HPC versus mining if you intend to kind of have both at that site? Yeah. Thanks, John. What's important to understand about the Georgia and the MIAG power specifically is that it is not subject to forced curtailment at that location. It's part of why we didn't just trip all in land with an AI thesis around the Sandersville assets. Those were also inbound because of the highly attractive nature of the Georgia power markets, more broadly. We feel great about the applicability of that location to the ultimate AI campus use case.
Speaker #5: site? Yeah.
Matt Schultz: Yeah. Thanks, John. What's important to understand about the Georgia and the MIAG power specifically is that it is not subject to forced curtailment at that location. It's part of why we didn't just trip all in land with an AI thesis around the Sandersville assets. Those were also inbound because of the highly attractive nature of the Georgia power markets, more broadly. We feel great about the applicability of that location to the ultimate AI campus use case. How we balance that versus the Bitcoin mining is going to be the way we do everything, which is a fundamental return on investment profile. We take a measured approach, we're data-driven, and the early indication is that every one of those megawatts is highly applicable for AI as its highest and best use, but we're going to remain data-driven across the analysis period for that asset.
Speaker #3: Thanks, John. So, what's important to understand about Georgia and the MEAG power specifically is that it is not subject to forced curtailment at that location.
Speaker #3: Just—we didn't just trip, fall, and land with an "It's part of why we didn't" AI thesis around the Sandersville assets. Those were also inbound because of the highly attractive nature of the Georgia power markets more broadly.
Speaker #3: And so we feel great about the applicability of that location to the ultimate AI campus use case. And how we balance that versus the Bitcoin mining is going to be the way we do everything, which is a fundamental return on investment profile.
S. Matthew Schultz: How we balance that versus the Bitcoin mining is going to be the way we do everything, which is a fundamental return on investment profile. We take a measured approach, we're data-driven, and the early indication is that every one of those megawatts is highly applicable for AI as its highest and best use, but we're going to remain data-driven across the analysis period for that asset. Great, thanks. That's helpful. Just as it relates to credit becoming a little bit of a concern out there, especially as it relates to NeoCloud customers, just walk us through how you are thinking about the customer profile, if there's maybe a bigger focus on hyperscalers now than maybe a couple of months ago when you guys were initially thinking about it. Also, hyperscaler backstops, is that starting to become a necessity?
Speaker #3: Take a measured approach. We're data-driven. The early indication is that every one of those megawatts is highly applicable for AI at its highest and best use.
Speaker #3: But we're going to remain data-driven across the analysis period for that asset.
John Todaro: Great, thanks. That's helpful. Just as it relates to credit becoming a little bit of a concern out there, especially as it relates to NeoCloud customers, just walk us through how you are thinking about the customer profile, if there's maybe a bigger focus on hyperscalers now than maybe a couple of months ago when you guys were initially thinking about it. Also, hyperscaler backstops, is that starting to become a necessity? Would love to get some color on that.
Speaker #5: Great. Thanks. That's helpful. And then just as it relates to credit becoming a little bit of a concern out there, especially as it relates to neocloud customers, just walk us through. Are you thinking about the customer profile?
Speaker #5: If there's maybe a bigger focus on hyperscalers now than maybe a couple of months ago when you guys were initially thinking about it, and then also hyperscaler backstops, is that starting to become a necessity?
Speaker #5: Would love to get some color on
S. Matthew Schultz: Would love to get some color on that. Hey, John. Thanks for the question. I'll tell you this about the financing. I mentioned it in my prepared remarks, is that there's new pools of capital that are going to be available to us at much lower cost of capital, so we feel really good about that. We know we're going to introduce at some point secured debt into the capital stack. We're closely monitoring the deals that are going on and the debt markets. I'll tell you the focus really first is to get that high credit quality tenant in there to make sure that we can get the best deal possible because, as you know, levered IRR is significantly higher the higher the loan-to-value is.
Speaker #5: that. Yeah.
Matt Schultz: Hey, John. Thanks for the question. I'll tell you this about the financing. I mentioned it in my prepared remarks, is that there's new pools of capital that are going to be available to us at much lower cost of capital, so we feel really good about that. We know we're going to introduce at some point secured debt into the capital stack. We're closely monitoring the deals that are going on and the debt markets. I'll tell you the focus really first is to get that high credit quality tenant in there to make sure that we can get the best deal possible because, as you know, levered IRR is significantly higher the higher the loan-to-value is.
Speaker #3: Hey, John. Thanks for the question. I'll tell you this about the financing. I mentioned in my prepared remarks is that there's new pools of capital that are going to be available to us at much lower cost of capital.
Speaker #3: We know we're going to introduce at some point secure debt into So we feel really good about that. the capital stack. So we're closely monitoring the deals that are going on and the debt markets.
Speaker #3: But I'll tell you the focus really first is to get that high credit quality tenant in there, to make sure that we can get the best deal possible because, as you know, levered IRR is a significantly higher the more higher the loan-to-value is.
Speaker #3: But I'll also tell you that while we might expect to get debt at about an 80-85 percent LTV over time, we have no problem also bringing a little bit more equity to the table, maybe at a 60-70 percent LTV for the first project or two.
S. Matthew Schultz: I'll also tell you that while we might expect to get debt at about an 80% to 85% LTV over time, we have no problem also bringing a little bit more equity to the table, maybe at a 60% to 70% LTV for the first project or two. Yes, that will decrease our levered IRR just a bit, but it'll also produce cash flows in the interim, which would also be helpful. Ultimately, to us, it's really going to come down to execution, for which we still think that the industry hasn't proven. We're going to see that over the next 12 to 18 months, particularly as we bring our land and power to market.
I'll also tell you that while we might expect to get debt at about an 80% to 85% LTV over time, we have no problem also bringing a little bit more equity to the table, maybe at a 60% to 70% LTV for the first project or two. Yes, that will decrease our levered IRR just a bit, but it'll also produce cash flows in the interim, which would also be helpful. Ultimately, to us, it's really going to come down to execution, for which we still think that the industry hasn't proven. We're going to see that over the next 12 to 18 months, particularly as we bring our land and power to market. I don't have specific answers for you right now, but I'll tell you that we are content that there's a number of options for us to get financing at attractive prices and get the levered IRR that this market's offering.
Speaker #3: Yes, that will decrease our levered IRR just a bit, but it'll also produce cash flows in the IRM, which would also be helpful. But ultimately, to us, it's really going to come down to execution for which we still think that the industry hasn't proven.
Speaker #3: But we're going to see that over the next 12 to 18 months, particularly as we bring our land and power to market. So I don't have a specific answer for you right now, but I'll tell you that we are content that there are a number of options for us to get financing at attractive prices and achieve the levered IRR that this market's.
S. Matthew Schultz: I don't have specific answers for you right now, but I'll tell you that we are content that there's a number of options for us to get financing at attractive prices and get the levered IRR that this market's offering. Terrific. That's helpful. Thanks, guys, and congrats again. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Reggie Smith with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Congrats in the quarter and on the pivot. I guess I had a question on the Sandersville site as well. I'm not sure if you guys talked about what type of CapEx would be required to upgrade that to HPC or if it's ready, kind of move-in ready now.
Speaker #3: offering. Terrific.
John Todaro: Terrific. That's helpful. Thanks, guys, and congrats again.
Speaker #5: That's helpful. Thanks, guys. And congrats again.
Matt Schultz: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Reggie Smith with JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Reggie Smith with JP Morgan. Your line is.
Reggie Smith: Congrats in the quarter and on the pivot. I guess I had a question on the Sandersville site as well. I'm not sure if you guys talked about what type of CapEx would be required to upgrade that to HPC or if it's ready, kind of move-in ready now. I'm curious, I know it's early, have you thought about the use cases, whether it would be used for training or interim and whether that at all plays any role in the price that you'd be able to get to kind of lease that space out? Does interim pay more or generate more revenue per megawatt than training? Any insights you can provide, at least around how you're thinking about kind of self-appraisal of the site and what it could be worth?
Speaker #6: Hi,
Speaker #6: Guys, congrats on the quarter, and open. On the pivot, I guess I had a question on the Sandersville site as well. I'm not sure if you guys talked about what type of CapEx would be required to upgrade that to HPC or if it's ready, kind of moving ready now.
Speaker #6: And then I'm curious, I know it's early; have you thought about the use cases, whether it would be used for training or entrance, and whether that at all plays any role in the price that you may be able to get to kind of lease that space out?
S. Matthew Schultz: I'm curious, I know it's early, have you thought about the use cases, whether it would be used for training or interim and whether that at all plays any role in the price that you'd be able to get to kind of lease that space out? Does interim pay more or generate more revenue per megawatt than training? Any insights you can provide, at least around how you're thinking about kind of self-appraisal of the site and what it could be worth? Hey, Reggie. Thanks for joining and thanks for the call. You've been to that Sandersville site, I believe, on some of our show and tell journeys. I think what's important to note is the facility, as you saw it, would not be a conversion to HPC AI. We have a phenomenal relationship with the economic development director in the county.
Speaker #6: So does influence pay more or generate more revenue per megawatt than training? Any insights you can provide, at least around how you're thinking about kind of self-appraisal of the site and what it could be worth?
Matt Schultz: Hey, Reggie. Thanks for joining and thanks for the call. You've been to that Sandersville site, I believe, on some of our show and tell journeys. I think what's important to note is the facility, as you saw it, would not be a conversion to HPC AI. We have a phenomenal relationship with the economic development director in the county. We secured an additional plot of land, hundreds of acres of land that's immediately adjacent. What you would see would be construction that is parallel with Bitcoin mining continuing. When we're ready to energize, we literally flip the switch, de-energize the Bitcoin mining, migrate that out, and go to compute.
Speaker #3: Hey, Reggie. Thanks for joining, and thanks for the call. You've been to that Sandersville site, I believe, on some of our show-and-tell journeys.
Speaker #3: And I think what's important to note is the facility as you saw it would not be a conversion to HPC AI. We have a phenomenal relationship with the economic development director in the county.
Speaker #3: And so we secured an additional plot of land—hundreds of acres that are immediately adjacent. So what you would see would be construction that is parallel with Bitcoin mining continuing. When we're ready to energize, we literally flip the switch, de-energize the Bitcoin mining, and migrate that out to go to compute.
S. Matthew Schultz: We secured an additional plot of land, hundreds of acres of land that's immediately adjacent. What you would see would be construction that is parallel with Bitcoin mining continuing. When we're ready to energize, we literally flip the switch, de-energize the Bitcoin mining, migrate that out, and go to compute. Now, specific types of compute. Jeff has built a model. Obviously, you have the giga campus, which is large-scale training. Those are generally close to a gigawatt and above. You have the mega campus, which is that kind of sweet spot, 200 to 800 megawatts. That's generally perceived to be kind of a combo site where it's inference and training, or primarily inference depending on the offtake client.
Now, specific types of compute. Jeff has built a model. Obviously, you have the giga campus, which is large-scale training. Those are generally close to a gigawatt and above. You have the mega campus, which is that kind of sweet spot, 200 to 800 megawatts. That's generally perceived to be kind of a combo site where it's inference and training, or primarily inference depending on the offtake client. The last mile or the low-latency, real mission-critical sites, like what you've seen in and around Metro Atlanta, would be kind of the exception to that rule. Those would obviously be low-latency inference-type operations. I think Sandersville is going to be an interesting case study because, quite frankly, the demand that we're seeing is for multiple 190 to 200MW critical IT loads, and the offtakers are asking for 2026 delivery.
Speaker #3: Now, specific types of compute. Jeff has built a model. Obviously, you have the gigacampus, which is large-scale training. Those are generally close to a gigawatt and above.
Speaker #3: Then you have the megacampus, which is that kind of sweet spot of 2 to 800 megawatts. And that's generally perceived to be a combo site where it's inference and training, or primarily inference depending on the offtake client.
Speaker #3: The last mile, or the low-latency real mission-critical sites, like what you've seen in and around Metro Atlanta, would be kind of the exception to that rule.
S. Matthew Schultz: The last mile or the low-latency, real mission-critical sites, like what you've seen in and around Metro Atlanta, would be kind of the exception to that rule. Those would obviously be low-latency inference-type operations. I think Sandersville is going to be an interesting case study because, quite frankly, the demand that we're seeing is for multiple 190 to 200MW critical IT loads, and the offtakers are asking for 2026 delivery. There are some real challenges in getting that tipped up in time. As we saw, even with companies like Meta, for example, they're putting tents up and using behind-the-meter gas at $0.12 a kilowatt-hour because the demand is such that there's no sensitivity to those utility rates. We really feel like we're uniquely positioned in this, Reggie.
Speaker #3: And those would obviously be low-latency inference type operations. So this is going to be, I think, Sandersville is going to be an interesting case study because, quite frankly, the demand that we're seeing is for multiple 190 to 200 megawatt critical IT loads, and the offtakers are asking for 2026 delivery.
There are some real challenges in getting that tipped up in time. As we saw, even with companies like Meta, for example, they're putting tents up and using behind-the-meter gas at $0.12 a kilowatt-hour because the demand is such that there's no sensitivity to those utility rates. We really feel like we're uniquely positioned in this, Reggie. You and I, when you first launched coverage on CleanSpark, we talked about the fact that when CleanSpark entered the space, there were a handful of household names that were the standard for Bitcoin mining. We mined our first Bitcoin in December 2020. As of today, we have more hash rate in the United States of America than anybody else. Our uptime is second to none. I think you can see you can count on seeing that same type of operational excellence and efficiency rolled into our next strategy. Jeff is just a perfect guy to lead those initiatives.
Speaker #3: So there's some real challenges in getting that tipped up in time. But, as we saw, even with companies like Meta, for example, they're putting tents up and using behind-the-meter gas at $0.12 per kilowatt-hour because the demand is such that there's no sensitivity to those utility rates.
Speaker #3: So we really feel like we're uniquely positioned in this, Reggie. And you and I when you first launched coverage on CleanSpark, we talked about the fact that when CleanSpark entered the space, there were a handful of household names that were the standard from Bitcoin mining.
S. Matthew Schultz: You and I, when you first launched coverage on CleanSpark, we talked about the fact that when CleanSpark entered the space, there were a handful of household names that were the standard for Bitcoin mining. We mined our first Bitcoin in December 2020. As of today, we have more hash rate in the United States of America than anybody else. Our uptime is second to none. I think you can see you can count on seeing that same type of operational excellence and efficiency rolled into our next strategy. Jeff is just a perfect guy to lead those initiatives. If I can get one more in, I'm not trying to nail you down to a timeline, but I'm kind of reading between the lines.
Speaker #3: We mined our first Bitcoin in December of 2020. As of today, we have more hash rate in the United States of America than anyone else.
Speaker #3: Our uptime is second to none. I think you can see that you can count on seeing the same type of operational excellence and efficiency rolled into our next strategy.
Speaker #3: And Jeff is just the perfect guy to lead those initiatives.
Reggie Smith: If I can get one more in, I'm not trying to nail you down to a timeline, but I'm kind of reading between the lines. I think about Cypher, and they purchased a property in Texas a year ago and kind of just now announced a deal. I understand that it takes a while to sort of think these types of things out. I'm curious, are you thinking about it? If it took you a year to sign a deal, would that be, in your eyes, satisfactory or kind of disappointing based on what you're seeing from a demand perspective now? Should we think of something much sooner than that? Any color you can help on how you're thinking about that personally would be great. Thank you.
Speaker #6: And if I can get one in, I'm not trying to nail you down to a timeline, but I'm kind of reading between the lines.
Speaker #6: I think about Cypher, and they purchased a property in Texas a year ago. It kind of just now announced a deal, and I understand it takes a while to sort these types of things out.
S. Matthew Schultz: I think about Cypher, and they purchased a property in Texas a year ago and kind of just now announced a deal. I understand that it takes a while to sort of think these types of things out. I'm curious, are you thinking about it? If it took you a year to sign a deal, would that be, in your eyes, satisfactory or kind of disappointing based on what you're seeing from a demand perspective now? Should we think of something much sooner than that? Any color you can help on how you're thinking about that personally would be great. Thank you. Yeah. That's a phenomenal question. I can tell you that you called me. I was at my kid's basketball game. You called me when CoreWeave announced their deal.
Speaker #6: But I'm curious, are you thinking about it? If it took you a year to sign a deal, would that be, in your eyes, satisfactory or kind of disappointing based on what you're seeing from a demand perspective now?
Speaker #6: Should we think of something much sooner than that? Any color you can provide on how you're thinking about that internally? Personally, that would be great.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thank you. Yeah, so that's a phenomenal question. And I can tell you that you called me while I was at my kid's basketball game.
Matt Schultz: Yeah. That's a phenomenal question. I can tell you that you called me. I was at my kid's basketball game. You called me when CoreWeave announced their deal. We talked about what the demand portfolio or the demand profile looked like back then. At that point, it was, we're going to convert these megawatts, and we're going to identify a customer. I think there's been a complete paradigm shift in the space. Now you have customers knocking at the door because they have loads that need to be served very rapidly. What I can tell you with, I would say, a strong amount of certainty is you'll see a lease executed much quicker than what you've seen in the space. The flexibility that's now come, I mean, we look at some of our peers that have extended their energization schedules because they're falling behind on construction, etc.
Speaker #3: You called me when CoreSite CoreWeave announced their deal, and we talked about what the demand portfolio or the demand profile looked like back then.
S. Matthew Schultz: We talked about what the demand portfolio or the demand profile looked like back then. At that point, it was, we're going to convert these megawatts, and we're going to identify a customer. I think there's been a complete paradigm shift in the space. Now you have customers knocking at the door because they have loads that need to be served very rapidly. What I can tell you with, I would say, a strong amount of certainty is you'll see a lease executed much quicker than what you've seen in the space. The flexibility that's now come, I mean, we look at some of our peers that have extended their energization schedules because they're falling behind on construction, etc. The hyperscalers and the end users that we're having conversations with, we've made it abundantly clear.
Speaker #3: And at that point, it was, "We're going to convert these megawatts, and we're going to identify a customer." I think there's been a complete paradigm shift in the space.
Speaker #3: And now you have customers knocking at the door because they have loads that need to be served very rapidly. So, what I can tell you with a strong amount of certainty is you'll see a lease executed much quicker than what you've seen in the space.
Speaker #3: And the flexibility that's now come I mean, we look at some of our peers that have extended their energization schedules because they're falling behind on construction, etc.
The hyperscalers and the end users that we're having conversations with, we've made it abundantly clear. We're constrained like anyone else for the MEP side, but we have a distinct advantage. I think what's likely to happen, and Reggie, quite frankly, there are two different offtakers that want to sign lease agreements by year-end. Is that going to happen? It's hard to say. The demand is there. It's real. As I mentioned in earlier comments, we were working on this script and the slide deck that we showed today, and I left here at 8:00PM last night. The global director of site selection for a hyperscaler was calling me wanting to confirm that they were still in the running. I don't think there's any question that you're going to see a lease much quicker than a year.
Speaker #3: Hyperscalers and the end users that we're having conversations with, we've made it abundantly clear we're constrained like anyone else for the MEP side, but we have a distinct advantage.
S. Matthew Schultz: We're constrained like anyone else for the MEP side, but we have a distinct advantage. I think what's likely to happen, and Reggie, quite frankly, there are two different offtakers that want to sign lease agreements by year-end. Is that going to happen? It's hard to say. The demand is there. It's real. As I mentioned in earlier comments, we were working on this script and the slide deck that we showed today, and I left here at 8:00PM last night. The global director of site selection for a hyperscaler was calling me wanting to confirm that they were still in the running. I don't think there's any question that you're going to see a lease much quicker than a year. Great. Perfect. Congratulations. Thanks, Reggie. Happy Thanksgiving. Your next question comes from Brett Noblock with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Hi, guys.
Speaker #3: So, I think what's likely to happen, and Reggie, quite frankly, there are two different offtakers that want to sign the lease agreements by year-end.
Speaker #3: Is that going to happen? It's hard to say. But the demand is there. It's real. As I mentioned in earlier comments, we were working on this script and the slide deck that we showed today.
Speaker #3: And I left here at 8 o'clock last night. And the global director of site selection for a hyperscaler was calling me wanting to confirm that they were still in the running.
Speaker #3: So I don't think there's any question that you're going to see a lease much quicker than a
Speaker #3: year. Great.
Reggie Smith: Great. Perfect. Congratulations.
Speaker #6: Perfect.
Matt Schultz: Thanks, Reggie. Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Reggie. Congratulations. Happy Thanksgiving.
Operator: Your next question comes from Brett Noblock with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Brett Noblock with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Brett Noblock with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open. Hi, guys.
Brett Knoblauch: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe Matt. Just on the land and power procurement side of the equation, could you comment on what you had to pay for the new site in Texas that you guys just announced? I don't think you guys are the only one out there that are looking to go out and find additional land that is energized soon. I think all of your peers, even hyperscalers, are probably looking at it to do it themselves. I guess how hard is it? How expensive is it? How much is there out there that you think you can go out and buy that is kind of turnkey ready, similar to the site that you guys announced in Texas?
Speaker #4: Thanks for taking my question. Maybe, Matt, just on the land and power procurement side of the equation, could you comment on what you had to pay for the new site in Texas that you guys just announced?
S. Matthew Schultz: Thanks for taking my question. Maybe Matt. Just on the land and power procurement side of the equation, could you comment on what you had to pay for the new site in Texas that you guys just announced? I don't think you guys are the only one out there that are looking to go out and find additional land that is energized soon. I think all of your peers, even hyperscalers, are probably looking at it to do it themselves. I guess how hard is it? How expensive is it? How much is there out there that you think you can go out and buy that is kind of turnkey ready, similar to the site that you guys announced in Texas? Yes, I could say what we paid for it, but I'm not going to. I'll tell you why.
Speaker #4: And I think you guys are the only ones out there that are looking to go out and find additional land that is energized soon.
Speaker #4: I think all of your peers need the hyperscalers, and they are probably looking to do it themselves. But how hard is it? How expensive is it?
Speaker #4: And how much is there out there that you think you can go out and buy that is kind of turnkey-ready, similar to the site that you guys announced in Texas?
Matt Schultz: Yes, I could say what we paid for it, but I'm not going to. I'll tell you why. There are some very fertile hunting grounds in the ERCOT region, and we don't want to price ourselves out of the market. What I can tell you is that the acquisition cost was a combination of equity and cash. We obviously filed the appropriate filings for the share issuance. The purchase price of that land and power came in line with what you're seeing in the market, towards the low end of that range. Our advantage, I think, in securing land and power and speed to market is really because we've continued to state that Bitcoin mining is going to be a part of what we do going forward. Eighteen months ago, when we were invited to sit down at Mar-a-Lago with Donald Trump during his candidacy, he brought in Senator Bill Haggerty from Tennessee.
Speaker #3: So, yes, I could say what we paid for it, but I'm not going to. And I'll tell you why. There are some very fertile hunting grounds in the ERCOT region.
S. Matthew Schultz: There are some very fertile hunting grounds in the ERCOT region, and we don't want to price ourselves out of the market. What I can tell you is that the acquisition cost was a combination of equity and cash. We obviously filed the appropriate filings for the share issuance. The purchase price of that land and power came in line with what you're seeing in the market, towards the low end of that range. Our advantage, I think, in securing land and power and speed to market is really because we've continued to state that Bitcoin mining is going to be a part of what we do going forward. Eighteen months ago, when we were invited to sit down at Mar-a-Lago with Donald Trump during his candidacy, he brought in Senator Bill Haggerty from Tennessee.
Speaker #3: And we don't want to price ourselves out of the market. What I can tell you is that the acquisition cost was a combination of equity and cash.
Speaker #3: We obviously filed the proper the appropriate filings for the share issuance. But the purchase price of that land and power came in line with what you're seeing in the market towards the low end of that range.
Speaker #3: Our advantage, I think, in securing land, power, and speed to market is really because we've continued to state that Bitcoin mining is going to be a part of what we do going forward.
Speaker #3: And 18 months ago, when we were invited to sit down at Mar-a-Lago with Donald Trump during his candidacy, he brought in Senator Hagerty from Tennessee.
Speaker #3: And because the question that came was, "Can Bitcoin miners actually plow the road, so to speak? Can Bitcoin miners go in and monetize megawatts for a utility that needs to generate revenues now or for an energy developer that needs to monetize their power while they're waiting for an interconnect agreement?" And so Mr. Trump asked Bill Haggerty, "Can Bitcoin miners do that?" And what he said is, unequivocally, they not only can they, but they do in TVA and CleanSpark is one of them.
S. Matthew Schultz: The question that came was, can Bitcoin miners actually plow the road, so to speak? Can Bitcoin miners go in and monetize megawatts for a utility that needs to generate revenues now, or for an energy developer that needs to monetize their power while they're waiting for an interconnect agreement? Mr. Trump asked Bill Haggerty, can Bitcoin miners do that? What he said is, unequivocally, not only can they, but they do in TVA, and CleanSpark is one of them. When we talk about Cheyenne, we're driver nine iron across the street there from FE Warren Air Force Base, and there's another trillion-dollar company, trillion-dollar market cap company that's in our same neighborhood. They were bidding for those megawatts. We won. We didn't win because the utility thought that our balance sheet was prettier or we were a better credit risk.
The question that came was, can Bitcoin miners actually plow the road, so to speak? Can Bitcoin miners go in and monetize megawatts for a utility that needs to generate revenues now, or for an energy developer that needs to monetize their power while they're waiting for an interconnect agreement? Mr. Trump asked Bill Haggerty, can Bitcoin miners do that? What he said is, unequivocally, not only can they, but they do in TVA, and CleanSpark is one of them. When we talk about Cheyenne, we're driver nine iron across the street there from FE Warren Air Force Base, and there's another trillion-dollar company, trillion-dollar market cap company that's in our same neighborhood. They were bidding for those megawatts. We won. We didn't win because the utility thought that our balance sheet was prettier or we were a better credit risk.
Speaker #3: And so when we talk about Cheyenne, we're driving a nine iron across the street from F.E. Warren Air Force Base. And there's another trillion-dollar market cap company that's in our same neighborhood.
Speaker #3: They were bidding for those megawatts, and we won. We didn't win because the utility thought that our balance sheet was prettier or we were a better credit risk.
Speaker #3: We won because we said, "If you sell us those megawatts, we'll start buying them in six months, not in a year and a half or two years." So, I think that’s a long answer to your question.
S. Matthew Schultz: We won because we said, if you sell us those megawatts, we'll start buying them in six months, not in a year and a half or two years. I think, long answer to your question, I think being a Bitcoin miner with a diverse mining portfolio and the flexibility of the modular deployments that we've done on some of the sites that you've actually seen, it gives us an advantage to jump in, monetize those megawatts on a small portion of the campus while we're tilting up the powered shell in the background. I think our speed to market is complemented not only by the modular approach with the Submer partnership, but also by using Bitcoin to go in and buy the power today. Awesome. Really appreciate it, guys. Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks, Brett. Have a happy Thanksgiving too. Your next question comes from Jim Macillery with Chardon Capital.
We won because we said, if you sell us those megawatts, we'll start buying them in six months, not in a year and a half or two years. I think, long answer to your question, I think being a Bitcoin miner with a diverse mining portfolio and the flexibility of the modular deployments that we've done on some of the sites that you've actually seen, it gives us an advantage to jump in, monetize those megawatts on a small portion of the campus while we're tilting up the powered shell in the background. I think our speed to market is complemented not only by the modular approach with the Submer partnership, but also by using Bitcoin to go in and buy the power today.
Speaker #3: I think being a Bitcoin miner, with a diverse mining portfolio and the flexibility of the modular deployments that we've done on some of the sites that you've actually seen, gives us an advantage to jump in and monetize those megawatts on a small portion of the campus while we're tilting up the powered shell in the background.
Speaker #3: So I think our speed to market is complemented not only by the modular approach with the Summer partnership, but also by using Bitcoin to go in and buy the power.
Speaker #3: today. Awesome.
Brett Knoblauch: Awesome. Really appreciate it, guys. Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker #4: Really appreciate it, guys. Happy Thanksgiving.
Matt Schultz: Thanks, Brett. Have a happy Thanksgiving too.
Speaker #3: Thanks. Brett, have a happy Thanksgiving too.
Operator: Your next question comes from Jim Macillery with Chardon Capital. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Comes from Jim Missouri. Your next question with Chardon Capital. Your line is open.
S. Matthew Schultz: Your line is open. Thank you. Good afternoon. Is Sandersville the only existing mining site you've identified for critical IT applications, or the first one, and there's going to be others? Hey, Jim. Yeah. Hey, Jim. Thanks for the question. The answer to your question is B. It's the first one. The inbound inquiries we've had for the 100 megawatts surrounding the Atlanta airport are second in urgency only to Sandersville. Sandersville is because it's 250 megawatts energized, operating today. The demand for College Park and Norcross is because it's low latency in the most dense compute environment in North America outside of Northern Virginia. There's a tremendous amount of demand there, as well as some of our sites in Tennessee. It's really just a sorting process.
Jim McIlree: Thank you. Good afternoon. Is Sandersville the only existing mining site you've identified for critical IT applications, or the first one, and there's going to be others?
Speaker #4: Thank you. Good afternoon. Is Good Sandersville the only existing mining site you've identified for critical IT applications, or is it the first one? And there's going...
Speaker #4: to be others.
Matt Schultz: Hey, Jim. Yeah. Hey, Jim. Thanks for the question. The answer to your question is B. It's the first one. The inbound inquiries we've had for the 100 megawatts surrounding the Atlanta airport are second in urgency only to Sandersville. Sandersville is because it's 250 megawatts energized, operating today. The demand for College Park and Norcross is because it's low latency in the most dense compute environment in North America outside of Northern Virginia. There's a tremendous amount of demand there, as well as some of our sites in Tennessee. It's really just a sorting process.
Speaker #3: Hey,
Speaker #3: Jim. Yeah. Hey, Jim. Thanks for the question. The answer to your question is B. It's the first one. The inbound inquiries we've had for the 100 megawatts surrounding the Atlanta airport are second in urgency only to Sandersville.
Speaker #3: And Sandersville is because it's 250 megawatts energized and operating today. The demand for College Park and Norcross is due to low latency in the most dense compute environment in North America, outside of Northern Virginia.
Speaker #3: So there's a tremendous amount of demand there, as well as at some of our sites in Tennessee. So it's really just a sorting process. As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we've done a portfolio analysis to determine that we don't want to move Bitcoin mining infrastructure into a facility that's going to be rapidly pivoted to an AIHPC deployment.
As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we've done a portfolio analysis to kind of determine we don't want to move Bitcoin mining infrastructure into a facility that's going to be rapidly pivoted to an AI HPC deployment. I think the answer is Sandersville is the low-hanging fruit that everybody wants. The Metro Atlanta stuff is second, and then we've got a whole bunch of third-place sites.
S. Matthew Schultz: As we mentioned in our prepared remarks, we've done a portfolio analysis to kind of determine we don't want to move Bitcoin mining infrastructure into a facility that's going to be rapidly pivoted to an AI HPC deployment. I think the answer is Sandersville is the low-hanging fruit that everybody wants. The Metro Atlanta stuff is second, and then we've got a whole bunch of third-place sites. The way you described it, it sounds like that flipping of the switch from mining to AI can take place before the CELE facility is energized. Am I understanding that correctly? Yeah. Think about it this way, Jim. Our facility in Sandersville is purpose-built Bitcoin mining. We have a couple hundred acres adjacent. We're going to build on that land while we're still mining. The speed to market, really, the summer is a big differentiator.
Speaker #3: So, I think the answer is Sandersville is the low-hanging fruit that everybody wants. The Metro Atlanta stuff is second, and then we've got a whole bunch of third-place sites.
Jim McIlree: The way you described it, it sounds like that flipping of the switch from mining to AI can take place before the CELE facility is energized. Am I understanding that correctly?
Speaker #4: And the way you described it, it sounds like that flipping of the switch from mining to AI can take place before the Sealy facility is energized.
Speaker #4: Am I understanding that
Speaker #4: correctly? Yeah.
Matt Schultz: Yeah. Think about it this way, Jim. Our facility in Sandersville is purpose-built Bitcoin mining. We have a couple hundred acres adjacent. We're going to build on that land while we're still mining. The speed to market, really, the summer is a big differentiator. As I mentioned before, there are hyperscalers that are popping up tents because they need access so quickly. I think it's a relative question. The Sealy project is very appealing because we've done all the analysis. All the engineering is done. We've gone to the levels of completing the survey and finding where there are easements for the gas lines on site, etc., so we can configure the footprint based on the needs of an end-use customer.
Speaker #3: So think about it this way, Jim. Our facility in Sandersville is purpose-built for Bitcoin mining. We have a couple of hundred acres adjacent. We're going to build on that land while we're still mining.
Speaker #3: Now, the speed to market really in the summer is a big differentiator. As I mentioned before, there are hyperscalers that are popping up tents because they need access so quickly.
S. Matthew Schultz: As I mentioned before, there are hyperscalers that are popping up tents because they need access so quickly. I think it's a relative question. The Sealy project is very appealing because we've done all the analysis. All the engineering is done. We've gone to the levels of completing the survey and finding where there are easements for the gas lines on site, etc., so we can configure the footprint based on the needs of an end-use customer. We spent a great deal of time in NVIDIA with some of their teams, and they have a gigasite. They have all the reference architecture for a GB300 deployment for a gigawatt of power, and everything is detailed down to the inch of fiber runs.
Speaker #3: So, I think it's a relative question. The Sealy part, or the Sealy project, is very appealing because we've done all the analysis, all the engineering is done, and we've gone to the levels of completing the survey and finding where there are easements for the gas lines on site, etc.
Speaker #3: So we can configure the footprint based on the needs of an end-use customer. We spent a great deal of time in NVIDIA with some of their teams.
We spent a great deal of time in NVIDIA with some of their teams, and they have a gigasite. They have all the reference architecture for a GB300 deployment for a gigawatt of power, and everything is detailed down to the inch of fiber runs. That type of build is obviously much more detailed and going to take a longer period of time than tilting up a powered shell and slotting in a modular solution like you'd see from a Submer, like you'd see from a company like Integra out of Houston. There are a number of these companies that provide that full MEP turnkey solution. I think what is likely to happen is we'll probably execute on both simultaneously. The delay on Sealy, and it's not really a delay. It's just the energization schedule on ERCOT is fixed.
Speaker #3: And they have a gigasite that has all the reference architecture for a GB300 deployment for a gigawatt of power. Everything is detailed down to the inch of fiber runs.
Speaker #3: So, that type of build is obviously much more detailed and going to take a longer period of time than tilting up a powered shell and slotting in a modular solution, like you'd see from a submarine, such as from a company like Integra out of Houston.
S. Matthew Schultz: That type of build is obviously much more detailed and going to take a longer period of time than tilting up a powered shell and slotting in a modular solution like you'd see from a Submer, like you'd see from a company like Integra out of Houston. There are a number of these companies that provide that full MEP turnkey solution. I think what is likely to happen is we'll probably execute on both simultaneously. The delay on Sealy, and it's not really a delay. It's just the energization schedule on ERCOT is fixed. The cool thing about that is the large load studies are done. There's no if. It's just when. The first 207 megawatts energized is the first half of 2027. Their commitment is April, but they have flexibility for the first half.
Speaker #3: There are a number of these companies that provide that full MEP turnkey solution. So I think what is likely to happen is we'll probably execute on both simultaneously.
Speaker #3: The delay on Sealy isn't really a delay; it's just that the energization schedule on ERCOT is fixed. The cool thing about that is the large load studies are done.
The cool thing about that is the large load studies are done. There's no if. It's just when. The first 207 megawatts energized is the first half of 2027. Their commitment is April, but they have flexibility for the first half. I think the conversations we've had with offtakers for Sandersville, they're looking to get something in the books fast. With Sealy, it's also high demand, and with the understanding that by Q2 2027, it's energized, and you can build in the meantime.
Speaker #3: There's no "if"; it's just "when." The first 207 megawatts will be energized in the first half of 2027. Their commitment is in April, but they have flexibility for the first half.
Speaker #3: So, I think the conversations we've had with off-takers for Sandersville indicate that they're looking to get something in the books fast with Sealy. It's also high demand.
S. Matthew Schultz: I think the conversations we've had with offtakers for Sandersville, they're looking to get something in the books fast. With Sealy, it's also high demand, and with the understanding that by Q2 2027, it's energized, and you can build in the meantime. Understood. Thank you. Just one more, if I might. You talked about increased expenses. Given that, as well as the recent prices of Bitcoin, will you need to sell the entirety of your Bitcoin production in order to cover your expenses? Not at all. We're generating 6,700 Bitcoin a month, and we're doing so at a 50% or 55% gross margin. The expenses we talked about, and as we're building, I think it really depends on the lease we put together and the ability to leverage that lease for financing.
Speaker #3: And with the understanding that by Q2 '27, it's energized. And you can build in the.
Speaker #3: meantime. Understood.
Jim McIlree: Understood. Thank you. Just one more, if I might. You talked about increased expenses. Given that, as well as the recent prices of Bitcoin, will you need to sell the entirety of your Bitcoin production in order to cover your expenses?
Speaker #4: Thank you. And just one more, if I might. You talked about increased expenses, and given that, as well as the recent prices of Bitcoin, will you need to sell the entirety of your Bitcoin production in order to cover your...
Speaker #4: expenses? Not at
Matt Schultz: Not at all. We're generating 6,700 Bitcoin a month, and we're doing so at a 50% or 55% gross margin. The expenses we talked about, and as we're building, I think it really depends on the lease we put together and the ability to leverage that lease for financing. What we're seeing is that, depending on the credit quality of the end-use tenant, the LTVs are anywhere from 15% to 30%. Having just put up, or the inverse of that, I'm sorry, 70% to 85%. Having just put up that $1.15 billion zero percent bond, we're sitting on a pretty healthy stack of cash. As Gary mentioned in his prepared comments, we have $400 million in low single-digit interest unused capacity on Bitcoin-backed credit facilities.I think you'll see us take more of a hybrid approach rather than sell the stack.
Speaker #3: We're generating 600 to 700 Bitcoin a month, and we're doing so at a 54 to 55 percent gross margin. The expenses we talked about and as we're building really depend on the lease we put together.
Speaker #3: And the ability to leverage that lease for financing. But what we're seeing is that, depending on the credit quality of the end-use tenant, the LTVs are anywhere from 15% to 30%.
S. Matthew Schultz: What we're seeing is that, depending on the credit quality of the end-use tenant, the LTVs are anywhere from 15% to 30%. Having just put up, or the inverse of that, I'm sorry, 70% to 85%. Having just put up that $1.15 billion zero percent bond, we're sitting on a pretty healthy stack of cash. As Gary mentioned in his prepared comments, we have $400 million in low single-digit interest unused capacity on Bitcoin-backed credit facilities. I think you'll see us take more of a hybrid approach rather than sell the stack. The last thing, with regard to the compressed margins in the environment, having the highest uptime and the most efficient fleet in the nation means that as energy prices press up, margin compression happens to everybody.
Speaker #3: Having just put up, or the inverse of that, I'm sorry, 70 to 85 percent. With the recent issuance of that $1.15 billion zero percent bond, we're sitting on a pretty healthy stack of cash.
Speaker #3: And then, as Gary mentioned in his prepared comments, we have $400 million in low single-digit interest unused capacity on Bitcoin-backed credit facilities.
Speaker #3: So, I think you'll see us take more of a hybrid approach rather than sell the stack. And then the last thing, with regard to the compressed margins in the environment, having the highest uptime and the most efficient fleet in the nation means that as energy prices press up, margin compression happens to everybody.
The last thing, with regard to the compressed margins in the environment, having the highest uptime and the most efficient fleet in the nation means that as energy prices press up, margin compression happens to everybody. We just happen to make more money out of the same megawatts because of fleet efficiency and uptime.I tell the story. It's like when my grandfather told me when two guys are camping in a tent and a bear walks into the campsite, and the one guy puts on his shoes, and the guy says, why are you putting on your shoes? You can't outrun a bear. He said, I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you.
Speaker #3: We just happen to make more money out of the same megawatts because of fleet efficiency and uptime. So I tell the story. It's like when my grandfather told me when two guys are camping in a tent and a bear walks into the campsite.
S. Matthew Schultz: We just happen to make more money out of the same megawatts because of fleet efficiency and uptime. I tell the story. It's like when my grandfather told me when two guys are camping in a tent and a bear walks into the campsite, and the one guy puts on his shoes, and the guy says, why are you putting on your shoes? You can't outrun a bear. He said, I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you. That's really what we see as our Bitcoin mining advantage. There are still industrial-scale miners operating fleets greater than 20 joules per terahash with not significantly better power pricing than we do. We have a ton of flexibility, and I really like the position that we're in to continue using Bitcoin mining.
Speaker #3: And the one guy puts on his shoes. And the guy says, "Why are you putting on your shoes? You can't outrun a bear." And he said, "I don't have to outrun the bear."
Speaker #3: "I just have to outrun you." And that's really what we see as our Bitcoin mining advantage. There are still industrial-scale miners operating fleets greater than 20 joules per terahash, with not significantly better power pricing than we do.
That's really what we see as our Bitcoin mining advantage. There are still industrial-scale miners operating fleets greater than 20 joules per terahash with not significantly better power pricing than we do. We have a ton of flexibility, and I really like the position that we're in to continue using Bitcoin mining.
Speaker #3: So, we have a ton of flexibility, and I really like the position that we're in to continue using Bitcoin mining.
Speaker #4: Thanks. Your next question comes from the line
Speaker #1: of John Hickman with Leidenberg. Your line is open.
S. Matthew Schultz: Your next question comes from the line of John Hickman with Ladenberg. Your line is open. Hi. As you might imagine, most of my questions have been answered. I was just wondering if you could maybe opine about there are others in this space that are trying to do the same thing that you're doing, taking Bitcoin sites and moving them over to HPC and AI, and they've been telling us they're going to do this, and it's been a year's gone by, and there's no lease. Could you opine as to why it would be taking so long when there's so much demand? I'll tell you from my perspective, and then I'd certainly invite either of my colleagues to chime in on it. What we learned when we spent some time with NVIDIA and AMD, there are very specific reference architecture that is required for specific clusters.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of John Hickman with Ladenberg. Your line is open.
Hi. As you might imagine, most of my questions have been answered. I was just wondering if you could maybe opine about there are others in this space that are trying to do the same thing that you're doing, taking Bitcoin sites and moving them over to HPC and AI, and they've been telling us they're going to do this, and it's been a year's gone by, and there's no lease. Could you opine as to why it would be taking so long when there's so much demand?
Speaker #5: Hi. As you might imagine, most of my questions have been answered. But I was just wondering if you could maybe opine about whether there are others in the space that are trying to do the same thing that you're doing, taking Bitcoin sites and moving them over to HPC and AI.
Speaker #5: And they've been telling us they're going to do this. A year's gone by, and there's no lease. Why could you opine as to why it would be taking so long when there's so much?
Speaker #5: demand? I'll tell
Matt Schultz: I'll tell you from my perspective, and then I'd certainly invite either of my colleagues to chime in on it. What we learned when we spent some time with NVIDIA and AMD, there are very specific reference architecture that is required for specific clusters. I think that the challenge that we're seeing, and I'm certainly not casting aspersions on anyone's strategy, is if there's so much demand for a hyperscaler, but they want a specific cluster, be that the new Google chips, or AMD, or NVIDIA, the site needs to be specifically designed for those clusters. I think building a site and then suggesting that it's flexible for somebody else to reconfigure or modify it, it could be useful, is a little bit of a challenge.
Speaker #3: From my perspective, I certainly invite either of my colleagues to chime in on this. What we learned when we spent some time with NVIDIA and AMD is that there are very specific reference architectures required for specific clusters.
Speaker #3: And I think that the challenge we're seeing—and I'm certainly not casting aspersions on anyone's strategy—but I think if there's so much demand for a hyperscaler, but they want a specific cluster, be that the new Google chips or AMD or NVIDIA, the site needs to be specifically designed for those clusters.
S. Matthew Schultz: I think that the challenge that we're seeing, and I'm certainly not casting aspersions on anyone's strategy, is if there's so much demand for a hyperscaler, but they want a specific cluster, be that the new Google chips, or AMD, or NVIDIA, the site needs to be specifically designed for those clusters. I think building a site and then suggesting that it's flexible for somebody else to reconfigure or modify it, it could be useful, is a little bit of a challenge. To have it purpose-built to the specific architecture of the offtaker, I believe, is a real advantage. Having all these sites that are already energized, that we're currently using those megawatts to mine Bitcoin, gives us that flexibility. I'm not in a rush. I don't have to do anything, quite frankly, until we have a lease.
Speaker #3: And I think building a site and then suggesting that it's flexible for somebody else to reconfigure or modify it could be useful. I think it is a little bit of a challenge.
To have it purpose-built to the specific architecture of the offtaker, I believe, is a real advantage. Having all these sites that are already energized, that we're currently using those megawatts to mine Bitcoin, gives us that flexibility. I'm not in a rush. I don't have to do anything, quite frankly, until we have a lease. I don't even have to start construction because I want to make sure that it's built to suit for the offtake customer. I guess my perspective, John, and again, I invite Harry or Gary to comment, I think the build-it-and-they-will-come mentality doesn't apply if it's not to the specific architecture requirements of the end user.
Speaker #3: So, to have it purpose-built to the specific architecture of the off-taker, I believe is a real advantage. And having all these sites that are already energized, that we're currently using those megawatts to mine Bitcoin, gives us that flexibility.
Speaker #3: I'm not in a rush. I don't have to do anything, quite frankly, until we have a lease. I don't even have to start construction because I want to make sure that it's built to suit for the off-take customer.
S. Matthew Schultz: I don't even have to start construction because I want to make sure that it's built to suit for the offtake customer. I guess my perspective, John, and again, I invite Harry or Gary to comment, I think the build-it-and-they-will-come mentality doesn't apply if it's not to the specific architecture requirements of the end user. I would just add one quick thing, John, which is just that the market today is different than the market a year ago. The demand profile has accelerated, the crunch for power is tighter than it was, and we're seeing some of the hesitation that some of these offtakers might have had 12 or 18 months ago. The sense of urgency is just more significant, and that's going to represent a difference in execution timelines today than they would have looked like back then. Okay. I just have one question.
Speaker #3: So I guess my perspective, John, and again, I invite Harry or Gary to comment. I think that the 'build it and they will come' mentality doesn't apply if it's not to the specific architecture requirements of the.
Speaker #3: End-user, I would just add one.
Gary Vecchiarelli: I would just add one quick thing, John, which is just that the market today is different than the market a year ago. The demand profile has accelerated, the crunch for power is tighter than it was, and we're seeing some of the hesitation that some of these offtakers might have had 12 or 18 months ago. The sense of urgency is just more significant, and that's going to represent a difference in execution timelines today than they would have looked like back then.
Speaker #4: Quick thing, John. The market today is different than the market a year ago. The demand profile has accelerated. The crunch for power is tighter than it was.
Speaker #4: And so we're seeing some of the hesitation that some of these off-takers might have had 12 or 18 months ago. The sense of urgency is just more significant.
Speaker #4: And that's going to represent a difference in execution timelines today than they would have looked like back then.
Jon Hickman: Okay. I just have one question. On Sandersville, when you get the AI part built and it's time to flip the switch, what happens to the Bitcoin mining site? The ASICs question. Would they have no power? You'd shutter it, would you?
Speaker #5: Okay. And then I just have one question. On Sandersville, when you get the AI part built and it's time to flip the switch, what happens to the Bitcoin mining site?
S. Matthew Schultz: On Sandersville, when you get the AI part built and it's time to flip the switch, what happens to the Bitcoin mining site? The ASICs question. Would they have no power? You'd shutter it, would you? Yeah. No, a couple of opportunities there. First and foremost, the ASICs would be migrated to a facility that needs them right now, and there's always plenty of demand for that. The facilities that we built, and John, I don't remember if you visited Sandersville on our analyst day, but the facilities at Sandersville. Okay. They're identical to what we built in Jackson, Tennessee, as an example. The cool thing is we build all the foundational stuff, and then what goes vertical is basically bolt together. We have the ability to repurpose those buildings based on any number of different factors.
Speaker #3: So
Speaker #3: So, fantastic question. So, would they have no...
Speaker #5: Power? You shut it to shutter, would you?
Matt Schultz: Yeah. No, a couple of opportunities there. First and foremost, the ASICs would be migrated to a facility that needs them right now, and there's always plenty of demand for that. The facilities that we built, and John, I don't remember if you visited Sandersville on our analyst day, but the facilities at Sandersville. Okay. They're identical to what we built in Jackson, Tennessee, as an example. The cool thing is we build all the foundational stuff, and then what goes vertical is basically bolt together. We have the ability to repurpose those buildings based on any number of different factors. No, it wouldn't be a write-off and mothball it. It would be repurposing those assets for deployment elsewhere.
Speaker #3: Yeah, no. A couple of opportunities there. First and foremost, the ASICs would be migrated to a facility that needs them right now, and there's always plenty of demand for that.
Speaker #3: The facilities that we built—and John, I don't remember if you visited Sandersville on our Analyst Day—but the facilities at Sanders are identical to what we built in Jackson, Tennessee, as an example.
Speaker #3: So the cool thing is we build all the foundational stuff. And then what goes vertical is basically bolt together. So we have the ability to repurpose those buildings based on any number of different factors.
Speaker #3: But no, it wouldn't be a write-off and mothball it. It would be repurposing those assets for deployment elsewhere.
S. Matthew Schultz: No, it wouldn't be a write-off and mothball it. It would be repurposing those assets for deployment elsewhere. You'd need more power. Yeah, for sure. That's why we would move it somewhere else. For example, Wyoming or Tennessee or even other sites in Georgia, we would for sure. Now, Sandersville is a bit of an anomaly because there are some opportunities for power expansion there. That's something that's still out for discussion, but the demand is significant. Okay. Well, thanks. Appreciate your time. Thanks, John. You bet. Happy Thanksgiving. You too. With your last question, it comes from Nick Giles from B. Riley Securities. Your line is open. Great. Thanks for squeezing me in, guys. You spoke to a multi-gigawatt pipeline, and I was hoping you could break that down a bit.
Jon Hickman: You'd need more power.
Speaker #5: But you'd need more
Matt Schultz: Yeah, for sure. That's why we would move it somewhere else. For example, Wyoming or Tennessee or even other sites in Georgia, we would for sure. Now, Sandersville is a bit of an anomaly because there are some opportunities for power expansion there. That's something that's still out for discussion, but the demand is significant.
Speaker #3: Yeah.
Speaker #3: For sure. That's why we would move it power somewhere else. For example, Wyoming or Tennessee, or even other sites in Georgia. We would for sure.
Speaker #3: Now, Sandersville is a bit of an anomaly because there are some opportunities for power expansion there, and that's something that's still out for discussion.
Speaker #3: But the demand is
Speaker #3: significant. Okay.
Jon Hickman: Okay. Well, thanks. Appreciate your time.
Speaker #5: Well, thanks. Appreciate your
Speaker #5: time. Thanks, John.
Matt Schultz: Thanks, John. You bet. Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker #3: You bet. Happy
Speaker #3: Thanksgiving. You
Jon Hickman: You too.
Speaker #5: You too.
Operator: With your last question, it comes from Nick Giles from B. Riley Securities. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: And with your last question, it comes from Nick Giles from B. Riley Securities. Your line is open.
Nick Giles: Great. Thanks for squeezing me in, guys. You spoke to a multi-gigawatt pipeline, and I was hoping you could break that down a bit. I mean, how many of these opportunities would you describe as late stage, or how soon could we see those drop down? Which of your existing power markets do you see most of these opportunities? Thanks a lot.
Speaker #4: Great. Thanks for squeezing me in, guys. You spoke to a multi-gigawatt pipeline, and I was hoping you could break that down a bit. I mean, how many of these opportunities would you describe as late-stage?
S. Matthew Schultz: I mean, how many of these opportunities would you describe as late stage, or how soon could we see those drop down? Which of your existing power markets do you see most of these opportunities? Thanks a lot. Yeah, Nick. Great question. I want to give you a historical example to kind of illustrate why we don't always give direct pipeline granularity as our business. You look back to the prior quarter's call, we talked about pipeline, and it was contemplated in that environment. What wasn't contemplated in either of those numbers was the 285MW that we purchased in Texas. That's because the relationships that we have across the utility and infrastructure space are diverse, and they're all very warm and deep.
Speaker #4: Or how soon could we see those drop down? And then which of your existing power markets do you see most of these opportunities? Thanks.
Speaker #4: lot. Yeah, Nick.
Harry Sudock: Yeah, Nick. Great question. I want to give you a historical example to kind of illustrate why we don't always give direct pipeline granularity as our business. You look back to the prior quarter's call, we talked about pipeline, and it was contemplated in that environment. What wasn't contemplated in either of those numbers was the 285MW that we purchased in Texas. That's because the relationships that we have across the utility and infrastructure space are diverse, and they're all very warm and deep. There are opportunities that come out of the woodwork along the way that leapfrog to the front of lists that we thought were very set. It is part of our capital strategy to have dynamic flexibility and execution with speed. It is also part of the pipeline and relationship management that we do work on across the infrastructure and utility partners that we have.
Speaker #3: Great question. And I want to give you a historical example to kind of illustrate why we don't always give direct pipeline granularity as our business.
Speaker #3: So, you look back to the prior quarter's call. We talked about the pipeline, and it was contemplated in that environment. What wasn't contemplated in either of those numbers was the 285 megawatts that we purchased in Texas.
Speaker #3: And that's because the relationships that we have across the utility and infrastructure space are diverse, and they're all very warm and deep. So, there are opportunities that come out of the woodwork along the way that leapfrog to the front of lists that we thought were very set.
S. Matthew Schultz: There are opportunities that come out of the woodwork along the way that leapfrog to the front of lists that we thought were very set. It is part of our capital strategy to have dynamic flexibility and execution with speed. It is also part of the pipeline and relationship management that we do work on across the infrastructure and utility partners that we have. That type of dynamic flexibility is why we've been successful acquiring power and land, and developing it with the quality that we have. When we look at that multi-gigawatt pipeline, a lot of those regions where we see expansion opportunities are places where we have deep relationships: the Georgias, Tennessees, Wyomings, and now Texases of the world.
Speaker #3: And so it's part of our capital strategy to have dynamic flexibility and execution with speed. It's also part of the pipeline and relationship management that we work on across the infrastructure and utility partners that we have.
That type of dynamic flexibility is why we've been successful acquiring power and land, and developing it with the quality that we have. When we look at that multi-gigawatt pipeline, a lot of those regions where we see expansion opportunities are places where we have deep relationships: the Georgias, Tennessees, Wyomings, and now Texases of the world. Some of the utilities that serve those regions—I'll use TVA as an example because I'm a homer—Tennessee Valley Authority serves seven different states. While it's the same utility partner, it bleeds outside the lines of the great state of Tennessee. Those are the types of dynamics that we see replicated across those relationships and part of why we feel so good about the pipeline growth opportunities and why we capitalize the business to hunt power and land, just like Gary said.
Speaker #3: And so that type of dynamic flexibility is why we've been successful acquiring power and land, and developing it with the quality that we have.
Speaker #3: And so, when we look at that multi-gigawatt pipeline, a lot of those regions where we see expansion opportunities are places where we have deep relationships: the Georgias, Tennessees, Wyomings, and now Texas of the world.
Speaker #3: But some of the utilities that serve those regions—I’ll use TVA as an example because I’m a homer—Tennessee Valley Authority serves seven different states. And so, while it’s the same utility partner, it bleeds outside the lines of the great state of Tennessee.
S. Matthew Schultz: Some of the utilities that serve those regions—I'll use TVA as an example because I'm a homer—Tennessee Valley Authority serves seven different states. While it's the same utility partner, it bleeds outside the lines of the great state of Tennessee. Those are the types of dynamics that we see replicated across those relationships and part of why we feel so good about the pipeline growth opportunities and why we capitalize the business to hunt power and land, just like Gary said. Understood. Well, guys, I appreciate the update, and have a great holiday. You too, Nick. Happy Thanksgiving. With no further questions in queue, I'd like to turn the call back over to Harry for any closing remarks. Everyone, thank you again for joining today's earnings call. We look forward to staying in touch and sharing future results with you in the coming quarters.
Speaker #3: And so those are the types of dynamics that we see replicated across those relationships. Part of why we feel so good about the pipeline growth opportunities is because we capitalize the business to hunt power and land just like Gary.
Speaker #3: said. Understood.
Nick Giles: Understood. Well, guys, I appreciate the update, and have a great holiday.
Speaker #4: Well, guys, I appreciate the update, and I hope you all have a great holiday.
Matt Schultz: You too, Nick. Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker #3: You too, Nick. Happy Thanksgiving.
Operator: With no further questions in queue, I'd like to turn the call back over to Harry for any closing remarks.
Speaker #1: And with no further questions in queue, I'd like to turn the call back over to Harry for any closing remarks.
Harry Sudock: Everyone, thank you again for joining today's earnings call. We look forward to staying in touch and sharing future results with you in the coming quarters. Stay tuned for more progress and exciting achievements ahead of us at CleanSpark, America's Bitcoin miner.
Speaker #4: Everyone, thank you again for joining today's earnings call. We look forward to staying in touch and sharing future results with you in the coming quarters.
Speaker #4: Stay tuned for more progress and exciting achievements ahead of us at CleanSpark. America's Bitcoin.
S. Matthew Schultz: Stay tuned for more progress and exciting achievements ahead of us at CleanSpark, America's Bitcoin miner. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.