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Q4 2025 Marathon Petroleum Corp Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Welcome to the NPC fourth quarter 2025 earnings call. My name is Julie, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Operator: Welcome to the MPC Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. My name is Julie, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Press star one on your touchtone phone to enter the queue. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Kristina Kazarian. Kristina, you may begin.
Operator: Welcome to the MPC Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. My name is Julie, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Press star one on your touchtone phone to enter the queue. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Kristina Kazarian. Kristina, you may begin.
Speaker #1: Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Press star one on your touch-tone phone to enter the queue. Please note that this conference is being recorded.
Speaker #1: I will now turn the call over to Kristina Kazarian. Kristina, you may begin.
Speaker #2: Welcome to Marathon Petroleum's Q4 2025 earnings conference call. The slides that accompany this call can be found on our website at marathonpetroleum.com under the Investors tab.
Kristina Kazarian: Welcome to Marathon Petroleum Corporation's Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. The slides that accompany this call can be found on our website at marathonpetroleum.com under the Investors tab. Joining me on the call today are Maryann Mannen, CEO, Maria Curry, CFO, and other members of the executive team. We invite you to read the safe harbor statements on slide 2. We will be making forward-looking statements today. Actual results may differ. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are included there, as well as in our filings with the SEC. With that, I'll turn the call over to Maryann.
Kristina Kazarian: Welcome to Marathon Petroleum Corporation's Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. The slides that accompany this call can be found on our website at marathonpetroleum.com under the Investors tab. Joining me on the call today are Maryann Mannen, CEO, Maria Curry, CFO, and other members of the executive team. We invite you to read the safe harbor statements on slide 2.
Speaker #2: Joining me on the call today are Maryann Mannen, CEO; Maria Curry, CFO; and other members of the executive team. We invite you to read the safe harbor statements on slide two.
Speaker #2: We will be making forward-looking statements today. Actual results may differ. included there, as well as in our filings with the SEC. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are With that, I'll turn the call over to Maryann.
We will be making forward-looking statements today. Actual results may differ. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are included there, as well as in our filings with the SEC. With that, I'll turn the call over to Maryann.
Speaker #3: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. As Kristina shared, Maria Curry, our CFO, is joining us on this call. She has over 25 years of broad industry experience as a global finance business executive.
Maryann Mannen: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. As Kristina shared, Maria Curry, our CFO, is joining us on this call. She has over 25 years of broad industry experience as a global finance business executive. Maria's background in operational excellence, cost competitiveness, financial planning, and risk management, as well as her global background, are complementary to our leadership team. Her experiences will add a unique set of perspectives. I look forward to Maria's contributions to further our commitment to deliver industry-leading cash generation and capital returns. In 2025, MPC delivered results that underscore the strength of our business and the momentum ahead. Our team's disciplined planning, operational rigor, and commercial excellence translated into strong performance throughout the year.
Maryann Mannen: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. As Kristina shared, Maria Curry, our CFO, is joining us on this call. She has over 25 years of broad industry experience as a global finance business executive. Maria's background in operational excellence, cost competitiveness, financial planning, and risk management, as well as her global background, are complementary to our leadership team.
Speaker #3: Maria's background in operational excellence, cost competitiveness, financial planning, and risk management, as well as her global background, are complementary to our leadership team. Her experiences will add a unique set of perspectives.
Her experiences will add a unique set of perspectives. I look forward to Maria's contributions to further our commitment to deliver industry-leading cash generation and capital returns. In 2025, MPC delivered results that underscore the strength of our business and the momentum ahead. Our team's disciplined planning, operational rigor, and commercial excellence translated into strong performance throughout the year.
Speaker #3: I look forward to Maria's contributions to further our commitment to deliver industry-leading cash generation and capital returns. In 2025, NPC delivered results that underscore the strength of our business and the momentum ahead.
Speaker #3: Our team's disciplined planning, operational rigor, and commercial excellence translated into strong performance throughout the year. For the full year, we achieved margin capture of 105% and refining utilization of 94%, demonstrating the reliability and competitiveness of our fully integrated value chains.
Maryann Mannen: For the full year, we achieved margin capture of 105% and refining utilization of 94%, demonstrating the reliability and competitiveness of our fully integrated value chains. Our midstream segment grew adjusted EBITDA year-over-year, reaching a record of nearly $7 billion. We generated $8.3 billion in cash from operations, reinvested back into the business to enhance our competitiveness and advanced high return investment opportunities. We returned $4.5 billion through the share repurchases and dividends. Our operational execution provided the foundation for our financial performance. We delivered our strongest company-wide process safety performance in the last four years. We achieved the lowest OSHA recordable injury rate as well, had our fewest designated environmental incidents this decade. These outcomes reflect our commitment to safe, reliable, and environmentally sound operations.
For the full year, we achieved margin capture of 105% and refining utilization of 94%, demonstrating the reliability and competitiveness of our fully integrated value chains. Our midstream segment grew adjusted EBITDA year-over-year, reaching a record of nearly $7 billion. We generated $8.3 billion in cash from operations, reinvested back into the business to enhance our competitiveness and advanced high return investment opportunities. We returned $4.5 billion through the share repurchases and dividends. Our operational execution provided the foundation for our financial performance.
Speaker #3: Our midstream segment grew adjusted EBITDA year over year, reaching a record of nearly $7 billion. We generated $8.3 billion in cash from operations, reinvested back into the business to enhance our competitiveness, and advanced high-return investment opportunities.
Speaker #3: We returned $4.5 billion through share repurchases and dividends. Our operational execution provided the foundation for our financial performance. We delivered our strongest company-wide process safety performance in the last four years.
We delivered our strongest company-wide process safety performance in the last four years. We achieved the lowest OSHA recordable injury rate as well, had our fewest designated environmental incidents this decade. These outcomes reflect our commitment to safe, reliable, and environmentally sound operations.
Speaker #3: We achieved the lowest OSHA recordable injury rate, as well as had our fewest designated environmental incidents this decade. These outcomes reflect our commitment to safe, reliable, and environmentally sound operations.
Speaker #3: As we look ahead, we remain constructive on refined product demand. Over the past year, global consumption trends have been steady. Gasoline and diesel each grew by roughly 1%, and jet fuel demand increased nearly 4%.
Maryann Mannen: As we look ahead, we remain constructive on refined product demand. Over the past year, global consumption trends have been steady. Gasoline and distillates each grew by roughly 1%, and jet fuel demand increased nearly 4%. Based on current global consumption indicators, we expect these patterns to continue into 2026. The global refining system is expected to remain tight, with limited new capacity coming online in 2026. Regional closures, such as the Pierce facility in California this spring, only further tighten the US markets. We expect refined product demand growth to outpace the net effect of capacity additions and rationalization through the end of the decade. Nearly 50% of our crude usage is sour crude. Our refining system is exceptionally well-tooled to source and process incremental barrels across sour grades as they come to market.
As we look ahead, we remain constructive on refined product demand. Over the past year, global consumption trends have been steady. Gasoline and distillates each grew by roughly 1%, and jet fuel demand increased nearly 4%. Based on current global consumption indicators, we expect these patterns to continue into 2026. The global refining system is expected to remain tight, with limited new capacity coming online in 2026. Regional closures, such as the Pierce facility in California this spring, only further tighten the US markets.
Speaker #3: Based on current global consumption indicators, we expect these patterns to continue into 2026. The global refining system is expected to remain tight, with limited new capacity coming online in 2026.
Speaker #3: Regional closures, such as a Pierce facility in California this spring, only further tightened the U.S. markets. We expect refined product demand growth to outpace the net effect of capacity additions and rationalizations through the end of the decade.
We expect refined product demand growth to outpace the net effect of capacity additions and rationalization through the end of the decade. Nearly 50% of our crude usage is sour crude. Our refining system is exceptionally well-tooled to source and process incremental barrels across sour grades as they come to market. To date, prices for Canadian barrels have been the most compelling. However, we have the ability to quickly pivot to Venezuelan crude at our Garyville Refinery, as well as other refineries across our system, should the economics warrant it. While we continue to see structural demand growth across refined products, our capital strategy remains disciplined. For 2026, we plan to invest roughly $700 million in refining value-enhancing capital, reflecting a nearly 20% reduction year over year.
Speaker #3: Nearly 50% of our crude usage is sour crude. Our refining system is exceptionally well-told to source and process incremental barrels across sour grades as they come to market.
Speaker #3: To date, prices for Canadian barrels have been the most compelling. However, we have the ability to quickly pivot to Venezuelan crude at our Garyville refinery, as well as other refineries across our system, should the economics warrant it.
Maryann Mannen: To date, prices for Canadian barrels have been the most compelling. However, we have the ability to quickly pivot to Venezuelan crude at our Garyville Refinery, as well as other refineries across our system, should the economics warrant it. While we continue to see structural demand growth across refined products, our capital strategy remains disciplined. For 2026, we plan to invest roughly $700 million in refining value-enhancing capital, reflecting a nearly 20% reduction year over year. Our spend is focused on lowering operating costs and enhancing system reliability while improving our ability to convert lower value inputs into the high-value products the markets continue to demand. Roughly 85% of our planned refining spend is directed toward multiyear investments at our Galveston Bay, Garyville, Robinson, and El Paso refineries. These investments will further strengthen the long-term competitive position of these assets.
Speaker #3: While we continue to see structural demand growth across refined products, our capital strategy remains disciplined. For 2026, we plan to invest roughly $700 million in refining value-enhancing capital.
Speaker #3: Reflecting a nearly 20% reduction year over year, our spend is focused on lowering operating cost and enhancing system reliability while improving our ability to convert lower value inputs into the high value products the markets continue to demand.
Our spend is focused on lowering operating costs and enhancing system reliability while improving our ability to convert lower value inputs into the high-value products the markets continue to demand. Roughly 85% of our planned refining spend is directed toward multiyear investments at our Galveston Bay, Garyville, Robinson, and El Paso refineries. These investments will further strengthen the long-term competitive position of these assets.
Speaker #3: Roughly 85% of our planned refining spend is directed toward multi-year investments at our Galveston Bay, Garyville, Robinson, and El Paso refineries. These investments will further strengthen the long-term competitive position of these assets.
Speaker #3: Within marketing, we plan to invest $250 million to expand the reach and presence of our branded stations in targeted markets. These investments support long-term secured offtake, drive strong value capture, and enhance the performance of our fully integrated value chain.
Maryann Mannen: Within marketing, we plan to invest $250 million to expand the reach and presence of our branded stations in targeted markets. These investments support long-term secured offtake, drive strong value capture, and enhance the performance of our fully integrated value chain. Our integration from crude supply through branded product placement remains a clear differentiator versus our competitors. This morning, we announced three new projects that underscore both the strength of our portfolio and our confidence in the long-term fundamentals of the refining sector. The first is at Garyville, where the intent is to optimize the refinery's feedstock slate. This should enhance margins by increasing crude throughput by 30,000 barrels per day and reducing our reliance on higher-cost intermediate purchases. We expect to spend about $110 million in 2026. This incremental crude capacity should be online by the end of 2027.
Within marketing, we plan to invest $250 million to expand the reach and presence of our branded stations in targeted markets. These investments support long-term secured offtake, drive strong value capture, and enhance the performance of our fully integrated value chain. Our integration from crude supply through branded product placement remains a clear differentiator versus our competitors. This morning, we announced three new projects that underscore both the strength of our portfolio and our confidence in the long-term fundamentals of the refining sector. The first is at Garyville, where the intent is to optimize the refinery's feedstock slate. This should enhance margins by increasing crude throughput by 30,000 barrels per day and reducing our reliance on higher-cost intermediate purchases. We expect to spend about $110 million in 2026.
Speaker #3: Our integration from crude supply through branded product placement remains a clear differentiator versus our competitors. This morning, we announced three new projects that underscore both the strength of our portfolio and our confidence in the long-term fundamentals of the refining sector.
Speaker #3: The first is at Garyville, where the intent is to optimize the refinery's feedstock slate; this should enhance margins by increasing crude throughput by 30,000 barrels per day, and reducing our reliance on higher cost intermediate purchases.
Speaker #3: We expect to spend about $110 million in 2026. This incremental crude capacity should be online by the end of '27. The second is another investment at Garyville, which builds on that optimization objective.
This incremental crude capacity should be online by the end of 2027. The second is another investment at Garyville, which builds on that optimization objective. It increases yield flexibility and enables us to produce an additional 10,000 barrels per day of export-grade premium gasoline, setting our commercial team up to meet strong international demand. Capital spend in 2026 is expected to be $50 million, with startup also targeted for year-end 2027. Third, at El Paso, we are advancing work that increases the refinery's ability to produce higher-value products for local markets. We will invest $30 million in 2026 and bring this capacity into service in Q2 of this year. Progress continues at our two previously announced jet yield maximization and DHT projects, anticipated to come online in Q3 of 2026 and year-end of 2027, respectively. Across all of these investments, we follow strict capital discipline.
Maryann Mannen: The second is another investment at Garyville, which builds on that optimization objective. It increases yield flexibility and enables us to produce an additional 10,000 barrels per day of export-grade premium gasoline, setting our commercial team up to meet strong international demand. Capital spend in 2026 is expected to be $50 million, with startup also targeted for year-end 2027. Third, at El Paso, we are advancing work that increases the refinery's ability to produce higher-value products for local markets. We will invest $30 million in 2026 and bring this capacity into service in Q2 of this year. Progress continues at our two previously announced jet yield maximization and DHT projects, anticipated to come online in Q3 of 2026 and year-end of 2027, respectively. Across all of these investments, we follow strict capital discipline.
Speaker #3: It increases yield flexibility and enables us to produce an additional 10,000 barrels per day of export-grade premium gasoline, setting our commercial team up to meet strong international demand.
Speaker #3: Capital spend in 2026 is expected to be $50 million, with startup also targeted for year-end 2027. Third, at El Paso, we are advancing work that increases the refinery's ability to produce higher-value products for local markets.
Speaker #3: We will invest $30 million in 2026 and bring this capacity into service in the second quarter of this year. Progress continues at our two previously announced jet yield maximization and DHT projects.
Speaker #3: Anticipated to come online in the third quarter of 2026 and year-end of 2027, respectively. Across all of these investments, we follow strict capital discipline.
Speaker #3: We put capital to work where it creates incremental value, and we consistently target returns of 25% or above. This capital deployment reflects our confidence in the long-term opportunities across the energy space, and our commitment to delivering durable, high-quality returns for our shareholders.
Maryann Mannen: We put capital to work where it creates incremental value, and we consistently target returns of 25% or above. This capital deployment reflects our confidence in the long-term opportunities across the energy space and our commitment to delivering durable, high-quality returns for our shareholders. The long-term fundamentals for our midstream business remain strong. In the US, natural gas demand is anticipated to grow over 15% through 2030, driven by the rapid expansion of LNG export capacity and rising power needs, particularly from data centers. We are also seeing higher gas-to-oil ratios across key shale basins as aging wells produce more associated gas per barrel of oil. This trend is increasing supplies of NGL-rich gas and underscores the strategic importance of our infrastructure in the Permian.
We put capital to work where it creates incremental value, and we consistently target returns of 25% or above. This capital deployment reflects our confidence in the long-term opportunities across the energy space and our commitment to delivering durable, high-quality returns for our shareholders. The long-term fundamentals for our midstream business remain strong. In the US, natural gas demand is anticipated to grow over 15% through 2030, driven by the rapid expansion of LNG export capacity and rising power needs, particularly from data centers. We are also seeing higher gas-to-oil ratios across key shale basins as aging wells produce more associated gas per barrel of oil. This trend is increasing supplies of NGL-rich gas and underscores the strategic importance of our infrastructure in the Permian.
Speaker #3: The long-term fundamentals for our midstream business remain strong. In the U.S., natural gas demand is anticipated to grow over 15% through 2030. Driven by the rapid expansion of LNG export capacity and rising power needs, particularly from data centers, we are also seeing higher gas-to-oil ratios across key shale basins as aging wells produce more associated gas per barrel of oil.
Speaker #3: This trend is increasing supplies of NGL-rich gas, and underscores the strategic importance of our infrastructure in the Permian. MPLX handles 10% of all the natural gas produced in the U.S.
Maryann Mannen: MPLX handles 10% of all the natural gas produced in the US, and over the past year, MPLX took meaningful steps to optimize its portfolio through divestitures of non-core assets, ensuring our future capital deployment is aligned with the strongest return opportunities as we build the infrastructure that will fuel tomorrow's energy needs. This morning, MPLX announced its plans to invest $2.4 billion of growth capital. 90% of MPLX's growth capital will be directed towards its natural gas and NGL services segment. These projects are concentrated in the Permian and Marcellus, two of the most prolific and competitive basins in North America, and are expected to generate mid-teens returns when they come into service. These investments reflect our confidence in the long-term fundamentals of the energy markets and in MPLX's ability to continue capturing value as these opportunities unfold, enabling sustained, meaningful return of capital....
MPLX handles 10% of all the natural gas produced in the US, and over the past year, MPLX took meaningful steps to optimize its portfolio through divestitures of non-core assets, ensuring our future capital deployment is aligned with the strongest return opportunities as we build the infrastructure that will fuel tomorrow's energy needs. This morning, MPLX announced its plans to invest $2.4 billion of growth capital. 90% of MPLX's growth capital will be directed towards its natural gas and NGL services segment. These projects are concentrated in the Permian and Marcellus, two of the most prolific and competitive basins in North America, and are expected to generate mid-teens returns when they come into service. These investments reflect our confidence in the long-term fundamentals of the energy markets and in MPLX's ability to continue capturing value as these opportunities unfold, enabling sustained, meaningful return of capital....
Speaker #3: and over the past year, MPLX took meaningful steps to optimize its portfolio through divestitures of non-core assets. Ensuring our future capital deployment is aligned with the strongest return opportunities as we build the infrastructure that will fuel tomorrow's energy needs.
Speaker #3: This morning, MPLX announced its plans to invest $2.4 billion of growth capital. 90% of MPLX's growth capital will be directed towards its natural gas and NGL services segment.
Speaker #3: These projects are concentrated in the Permian and Marcellus, two of the most prolific and competitive basins in North America, and are expected to generate mid-teens returns when they come into service.
Speaker #3: These investments reflect our confidence in the long-term fundamentals of the energy markets, and in MPLX's ability to continue capturing value as these opportunities unfold.
Speaker #3: Enabling sustained meaningful return of capital. MPLX continues to target a distribution growth rate of 12.5% over the next two years, which implies expected future annual cash distributions to MPC of over 3.5 billion dollars.
Maryann Mannen: MPLX continues to target a distribution growth rate of 12.5% over the next two years, which implies expected future annual cash distributions to MPC of over $3.5 billion. With our competitive integrated value chains and increasing distributions from MPLX, we believe MPC is positioned to deliver industry-leading cash generation through all parts of the cycle. Now, I'll hand it over to Maria to discuss our financial performance.
MPLX continues to target a distribution growth rate of 12.5% over the next two years, which implies expected future annual cash distributions to MPC of over $3.5 billion. With our competitive integrated value chains and increasing distributions from MPLX, we believe MPC is positioned to deliver industry-leading cash generation through all parts of the cycle. Now, I'll hand it over to Maria to discuss our financial performance.
Speaker #3: With our competitive integrated value chains, and increasing distributions from MPLX, we believe MPC is positioned to deliver industry-leading cash generation through all parts of the cycle.
Speaker #3: Now, I'll hand it over to Maria to discuss our financial performance.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Maryann. Moving to the fourth quarter, and full-year highlights, a slide seven provides a summary of our financial results. This morning, we reported adjusted earnings per share of $4.07 for the fourth quarter, and $10.70 for the full year.
Maria Curry: Thanks, Maryann. Moving to Q4 and full year highlights, as slide 7 provides a summary of our financial results. This morning, we reported adjusted earnings per share of $4.07 for Q4, and $10.70 for the full year. Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $3.5 billion for the quarter and $12 billion for the year. Refining and Marketing segment adjusted EBITDA per barrel was $7.15 for the quarter and $5.63 for the year. Cash flow from operations, excluding working capital changes, was $2.7 billion for the quarter and $8.7 billion for the year. In 2025, we returned $4.5 billion to shareholders, inclusive of a 6.5% reduction to our shares outstanding.
Maria Khoury: Thanks, Maryann. Moving to Q4 and full year highlights, as slide 7 provides a summary of our financial results. This morning, we reported adjusted earnings per share of $4.07 for Q4, and $10.70 for the full year. Adjusted EBITDA was approximately $3.5 billion for the quarter and $12 billion for the year.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA was approximately 3.5 billion dollars for the quarter, and 12 billion dollars for the year. Refining and marketing segment adjustment EBITDA per barrel was $7.15 for the quarter, and $5.63 for the year.
Refining and Marketing segment adjusted EBITDA per barrel was $7.15 for the quarter and $5.63 for the year. Cash flow from operations, excluding working capital changes, was $2.7 billion for the quarter and $8.7 billion for the year. In 2025, we returned $4.5 billion to shareholders, inclusive of a 6.5% reduction to our shares outstanding.
Speaker #2: Cash flow from operations, excluding working capital changes, was $2.7 billion for the quarter and $8.7 billion for the year. In 2025, we returned $4.5 billion to shareholders.
Speaker #2: Inclusive of a $6.5% reduction to our shares outstanding. A slide eight shows the year-over-year change in adjusted EBITDA from fourth quarter 2024 to fourth quarter 2025, and the reconciliation between net income and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter.
Maria Curry: As slide 8 shows the year-over-year change in adjusted EBITDA from Q4 2024 to Q4 2025, and the reconciliation between net income and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was higher year-over-year by approximately $1.4 billion, primarily driven by our refinery, refining and marketing segment. Moving to our segment results in the slide 9, we provide an overview of our refining and marketing segment. Our R&M Q4 adjusted EBITDA was $2 billion. Our refineries run at 95% utilization, with total throughput just over 3 million barrels per day. We achieved monthly crude throughput records at our Garyville and Robinson refineries in the quarter. Regionally, our utilization was 98% in the Gulf Coast, 93% in the Mid-Con, and 91% in the West Coast.
As slide 8 shows the year-over-year change in adjusted EBITDA from Q4 2024 to Q4 2025, and the reconciliation between net income and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was higher year-over-year by approximately $1.4 billion, primarily driven by our refinery, refining and marketing segment. Moving to our segment results in the slide 9, we provide an overview of our refining and marketing segment. Our R&M Q4 adjusted EBITDA was $2 billion. Our refineries run at 95% utilization, with total throughput just over 3 million barrels per day. We achieved monthly crude throughput records at our Garyville and Robinson refineries in the quarter. Regionally, our utilization was 98% in the Gulf Coast, 93% in the Mid-Con, and 91% in the West Coast.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA was higher year-over-year by approximately 1.4 billion dollars, primarily driven by our refinery refining and marketing segment. Moving to our segment results, in a slide nine, we provide an overview of our refining and marketing segment.
Speaker #2: Our R&M fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA was $2 billion. Our refineries ran at 95% utilization, with total throughput just over 3 million barrels per day.
Speaker #2: We achieved monthly throughput records at our Garville and Robinson refineries in the quarter. Regionally, our utilization was 98% in the Gulf Coast, 93% in the Midtown, and 91% in the West Coast.
Speaker #2: We capitalized on a strong refining margin environment while executing planned turnarounds safely and on time. Turning to a slide 10, fourth quarter capture was 114%.
Maria Curry: We capitalized on a strong refining margin environment while executing planned turnarounds safely and on time. Turning to slide 10, Q4 capture was 114%. Solid commercial execution contributed towards our strongest capture in 2025. Our fully integrated approach is underpinned by planning, commercial, and operational excellence, in addition to our differentiated logistics footprint. This quarter, we delivered a clean product yield of 86% and profitable product placement through our sales channels, resulting in material market uplift. Typical seasonal tailwinds associated with secondary products, such as butane blending, also contributed towards our strong capture results. As slide 11 shows, our midstream segment performance for the quarter. Year-over-year, Q4 results declined primarily due to the divestiture of non-core gathering and processing assets. Our full-year midstream segment adjusted EBITDA has grown at a 3-year compound annual growth rate of 5%.
We capitalized on a strong refining margin environment while executing planned turnarounds safely and on time. Turning to slide 10, Q4 capture was 114%. Solid commercial execution contributed towards our strongest capture in 2025. Our fully integrated approach is underpinned by planning, commercial, and operational excellence, in addition to our differentiated logistics footprint. This quarter, we delivered a clean product yield of 86% and profitable product placement through our sales channels, resulting in material market uplift.
Speaker #2: Solid commercial execution contributed towards our strongest capture in 2025. Our full integrated approach is underpinned by planning commercial and operational excellence, in addition to our differentiated logistics footprint.
Speaker #2: This quarter, we delivered a clean product yield of 86% and profitable product placement through our sales channels, resulting in material market uplift. Typical seasonal tailwinds associated with secondary products, such as butane blending, also contributed towards our strong capture results.
Typical seasonal tailwinds associated with secondary products, such as butane blending, also contributed towards our strong capture results. As slide 11 shows, our midstream segment performance for the quarter. Year-over-year, Q4 results declined primarily due to the divestiture of non-core gathering and processing assets. Our full-year midstream segment adjusted EBITDA has grown at a 3-year compound annual growth rate of 5%.
Speaker #2: A slide 11 shows our midstream segment performance for the quarter. Year-over-year, four-quarter results declined primarily due to the divestiture of non-core gathering and processing assets.
Speaker #2: Our full-year midstream segment adjusted EBITDA has grown at a three-year compound annual growth rate of 5%. MPLX continues to execute its growth strategy and remains a source of durable cash flow for MPC.
Maria Curry: MPLX continues to execute its growth strategy and remains a source of durable cash flow for MPC. As slide 12 shows, our renewable segment performance for the quarter. Results reflect 94% utilization and a one-time benefit from the sale of credits by the Martinez joint venture in Q4, which were offset by a weaker margin environment compared to the prior-year Q4. We will continue to optimize our renewable facilities, leveraging logistics and pretreatment capabilities with a Q1 planned turnaround at Martinez. We anticipate utilization of approximately 70%. As slide 13 presents the elements of change in our consolidated cash position for Q4. Operating cash flow, excluding changes in working capital, was $2.7 billion, our strongest quarter result in the past two years.
MPLX continues to execute its growth strategy and remains a source of durable cash flow for MPC. As slide 12 shows, our renewable segment performance for the quarter. Results reflect 94% utilization and a one-time benefit from the sale of credits by the Martinez joint venture in Q4, which were offset by a weaker margin environment compared to the prior-year Q4. We will continue to optimize our renewable facilities, leveraging logistics and pretreatment capabilities with a Q1 planned turnaround at Martinez. We anticipate utilization of approximately 70%.
Speaker #2: A slide 12 shows our renewable segment performance for the quarter. Results reflect 94% utilization and a one-time benefit from the sale of credits by the Martinez Joint Venture in the fourth quarter, which were offset by a weaker margin environment.
Speaker #2: Compared to the continued optimization of our prior year fourth quarter, we will focus on renewable facilities, leveraging logistics and pre-treatment capabilities, with a first quarter planned turnaround at Martinez.
Speaker #2: We anticipate utilization of approximately 70%. A slide 13 presents the elements of change in our consolidated cash position for the fourth quarter. Operating cash flow excluding changes in working capital was $2.7 billion; our strongest quarter result in the past two years.
As slide 13 presents the elements of change in our consolidated cash position for Q4. Operating cash flow, excluding changes in working capital, was $2.7 billion, our strongest quarter result in the past two years. During the quarter, we returned $1.3 billion of capital to shareholders, executing on our capital allocation priorities. At the end of the year, MPC had approximately $3.7 billion of consolidated cash, including MPC's cash of approximately $1.5 billion and MPLX's cash of approximately $2.1 billion. Turning to guidance. On slide 14, we provide our Q1 outlook.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, we returned $1.3 billion of capital to shareholders. Executing on our capital allocation priorities. At the end of the year, MPC had approximately $3.7 billion of consolidated cash, including MPC's cash of approximately $1.5 billion and MPLS's cash of approximately $2.1 billion.
Maria Curry: During the quarter, we returned $1.3 billion of capital to shareholders, executing on our capital allocation priorities. At the end of the year, MPC had approximately $3.7 billion of consolidated cash, including MPC's cash of approximately $1.5 billion and MPLX's cash of approximately $2.1 billion. Turning to guidance. On slide 14, we provide our Q1 outlook. Additionally, for the full year, turnaround expenses are expected to be lower compared to last year at $1.35 billion, and we plan for continued reduction in both 2027 and 2028. Our capital allocation framework is unchanged. Our net debt-to-capital ratio remains in our range of 25% to 30%, and we continue to target an annual cash balance of $1 billion.
Speaker #2: Turning to guidance, on a slide 14, we provide our first quarter outlook. Additionally, for the full year, turnaround expenses are expected to be lower compared to last year, at $1,350 million.
Additionally, for the full year, turnaround expenses are expected to be lower compared to last year at $1.35 billion, and we plan for continued reduction in both 2027 and 2028. Our capital allocation framework is unchanged. Our net debt-to-capital ratio remains in our range of 25% to 30%, and we continue to target an annual cash balance of $1 billion. Distributions received from MPLX are expected to fund MPC's dividends and a standalone capital expended, spending in 2026.... allowing us to return all excess free cash flow after the needs of the business to shareholders in 2026. With that, let me pass it back to Maryann.
Speaker #2: And we plan for continued reduction in both 2027 and 2028. Our capital unchanged. Our net debt to capital ratio remains in our range of 25 to 30%, and we continue to target an annual cash balance of $1 billion.
Speaker #2: Distributions received from MPLX are expected to fund MPC's dividends and standalone capital spending in 2026. Allowing us to return all excess free cash flow after the needs of the business to shareholders in 2026. With that, let me pass it back to Maryann.
Maria Curry: Distributions received from MPLX are expected to fund MPC's dividends and a standalone capital expended, spending in 2026.... allowing us to return all excess free cash flow after the needs of the business to shareholders in 2026. With that, let me pass it back to Maryann.
Speaker #1: Our commitments are unwavering. Safe, reliable operations are the foundation of our company. Operational excellence is ingrained in how we run the business every day.
Maryann Mannen: Our commitments are unwavering. Safe, reliable operations are the foundation of our company. Operational excellence is ingrained in how we run the business every day. Combined with planning and commercial execution, these capabilities position us to deliver leading through cycle cash generation. In refining and marketing, disciplined investments will further strengthen our competitiveness. In midstream, capital deployment is aligned with the fastest-growing regions in the country as we build the infrastructure that will fuel tomorrow's energy needs. MPLX is strategic to MPC. The growth of MPLX's distribution over the next two years translates into more than $3.5 billion in expected future cash distributions to MPC, central to the value proposition we deliver to our shareholders. Our team is committed to creating exceptional value for our shareholders. With integrated value chains and a geographically diverse asset base, MPC is well positioned to lead in capital return.
Maryann Mannen: Our commitments are unwavering. Safe, reliable operations are the foundation of our company. Operational excellence is ingrained in how we run the business every day. Combined with planning and commercial execution, these capabilities position us to deliver leading through cycle cash generation. In refining and marketing, disciplined investments will further strengthen our competitiveness. In midstream, capital deployment is aligned with the fastest-growing regions in the country as we build the infrastructure that will fuel tomorrow's energy needs.
Speaker #1: Combined with planning and commercial execution, these capabilities position us to deliver leading through-cycle cash generation. In refining and marketing, disciplined investments, we'll further strengthen our competitiveness.
Speaker #1: In midstream, capital deployment is aligned with the fastest-growing regions in the country, as we build the infrastructure that will fuel tomorrow's energy needs. MPLX is strategic to MPC; the growth of MPLX's distribution over the next two years translates into more than $3.5 billion in expected future cash distributions to MPC.
MPLX is strategic to MPC. The growth of MPLX's distribution over the next two years translates into more than $3.5 billion in expected future cash distributions to MPC, central to the value proposition we deliver to our shareholders. Our team is committed to creating exceptional value for our shareholders. With integrated value chains and a geographically diverse asset base, MPC is well positioned to lead in capital return.With that, I'll turn the call back to Kristina.
Speaker #1: Central to the value proposition we deliver to our shareholders, our team is committed to creating exceptional value for our shareholders. With integrated value chains and a geographically diverse asset base, MPC is well-positioned to lead in capital return.
Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn the call back to Kristina.
Maryann Mannen: With that, I'll turn the call back to Kristina.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Maryann. As we open the call for your questions, as a courtesy to all participants, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up.
Kristina Kazarian: Thanks, Maryann. As we open the call for your questions, as a courtesy to all participants, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and a follow-up. If time permits, we will re-prompt for additional questions. Operator, please open the line for questions.
Kristina Kazarian: Thanks, Maryann. As we open the call for your questions, as a courtesy to all participants, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and a follow-up. If time permits, we will re-prompt for additional questions. Operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #2: If time permits, we will re-prompt for additional questions. Operator, please open the line for questions.
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Speaker #4: Yeah, good morning. Maryann and team, you know, last quarter we spent a lot of time talking about capture rate and came in a little bit softer.
[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs): Yeah, good morning, Maryann and team. You know, last quarter, we spent a lot of time talking about capture rate, and it came in a little bit softer. This quarter, capture rate was very strong at 114%. I was wondering if you can kinda build on what you saw there and anything that might have positively surprised, recognizing there's some seasonality here, but even then, it beat our expectations.
Neil Mehta: Yeah, good morning, Maryann and team. You know, last quarter, we spent a lot of time talking about capture rate, and it came in a little bit softer. This quarter, capture rate was very strong at 114%. I was wondering if you can kinda build on what you saw there and anything that might have positively surprised, recognizing there's some seasonality here, but even then, it beat our expectations.
Speaker #4: This quarter, capture rate was very strong at 114%. And I was wondering if you can kind of build on what you saw there and anything that might have positively surprised recognizing there's some seasonality here, but even then it beat our expectations.
Speaker #5: Good morning, Neil. Thank you. You know, as it relates to capture, first and foremost, I think you've heard me say it, you've heard Rick say it, and others on the team.
Maryann Mannen: Good morning, Neil. Thank you. You know, as it relates to capture, first and foremost, I think you've heard, me say it, you've heard Rick say it, and others on the team, it is clearly a strategy for us when we think about planning and commercial execution to continue to deliver optimization through our commercial team. We are trying to leverage the scale of our integrated system. We think that's an advantage, and again, really trying to increase the capabilities of the commercial team to deliver, sustained results across all three of our regions. You mentioned it, 105 for 2025.
Maryann Mannen: Good morning, Neil. Thank you. You know, as it relates to capture, first and foremost, I think you've heard, me say it, you've heard Rick say it, and others on the team, it is clearly a strategy for us when we think about planning and commercial execution to continue to deliver optimization through our commercial team. We are trying to leverage the scale of our integrated system. We think that's an advantage, and again, really trying to increase the capabilities of the commercial team to deliver, sustained results across all three of our regions. You mentioned it, 105 for 2025.
Speaker #5: It is clearly a strategy for us when we think about planning and commercial execution to continue to deliver optimization through our commercial team. We are trying to leverage the scale of our integrated system.
Speaker #5: We think that's an advantage and, again, really trying to increase the capabilities of the commercial team to deliver sustained results across all three of our regions.
Speaker #5: You mentioned it, 105 for 2025. And if you go back and look over the last few years, while we don't necessarily control every quarter because there are headwinds and things we can't control, if you go back and look over the last few years, over the last three years, we've improved capture in each of those years.
Maryann Mannen: If you go back and look over the last few years, while we don't necessarily control every quarter because there are headwinds and things we can't control, if you go back and look over the last few years, over the last three years, we've improved capture in each of those years. So you know, there were some things in the Q3 that were not, you know, sustained, and you see those reverse in the Q4 as well. We are trying to control the things that we can throughout the year and plan to do so. I'm gonna pass it to Rick and let him give you some of the specifics in the Q4, Neil. Thanks for the question.
If you go back and look over the last few years, while we don't necessarily control every quarter because there are headwinds and things we can't control, if you go back and look over the last few years, over the last three years, we've improved capture in each of those years. So you know, there were some things in the Q3 that were not, you know, sustained, and you see those reverse in the Q4 as well. We are trying to control the things that we can throughout the year and plan to do so. I'm gonna pass it to Rick and let him give you some of the specifics in the Q4, Neil. Thanks for the question.
Speaker #5: So, you know, there were some things in the third quarter that were not sustained. And you see those reverse in the fourth quarter as well.
Speaker #5: But we are trying to control the things that we can throughout the year, and plan to do so. I'm going to pass it to Rick and let him give you some of the specifics in the fourth quarter, Neil.
Speaker #5: Thanks for the
Speaker #5: question. Yeah, hi, Neil.
Rick Hessling: Yeah. Hi, Neil. I think what I would add is when you look at our structural improvements that we've made within the commercial organization and the value chain optimization organization, we believe these are sustainable. And simply said, we're not done, Neil. Our commercial team's goal every single day they come into work is to expand the crack, and you're seeing this follow through with our results. So more to come there. Specific to maybe answering your question, a couple of items that I'd call out, Neil. One is the diesel-to-jet spread, specifically when you look on the West Coast. In Q3, it was a headwind. In Q4, it was a tailwind, and we're continuing to see pretty good signals as we enter the first part of Q1.
Rick Hessling: Yeah. Hi, Neil. I think what I would add is when you look at our structural improvements that we've made within the commercial organization and the value chain optimization organization, we believe these are sustainable. And simply said, we're not done, Neil. Our commercial team's goal every single day they come into work is to expand the crack, and you're seeing this follow through with our results. So more to come there. Specific to maybe answering your question, a couple of items that I'd call out, Neil. One is the diesel-to-jet spread, specifically when you look on the West Coast. In Q3, it was a headwind. In Q4, it was a tailwind, and we're continuing to see pretty good signals as we enter the first part of Q1.
Speaker #6: I think what I would add is, when you look at our structural improvements that we've made within the Commercial organization and the Value Chain Optimization organization, we believe these are sustainable.
Speaker #6: And simply said, we're not done, Neil. Our commercial team's goal every single day they come into work is to follow through with our results.
Speaker #6: expand the crack. And you're seeing this So more to come there. Specific to maybe answering your question, a couple of items that I'd call out, Neil, one is the diesel-to-jet spread specifically when you look on the West Coast.
Speaker #6: In three Q, it was a headwind. In four Q, it was a tailwind. And we're continuing to see pretty good signals as we enter the first part of the first quarter.
Speaker #6: And I'll leave you with, on the jet side, you know, we are the largest producer of jet fuel in the United States. And then within, all of our complexes, when you look at our Los Angeles refinery, it is the largest jet fuel producer within our system.
Rick Hessling: I'll leave you with, on the jet side, you know, we are the largest producer of jet fuel in the United States, and then within all of our complexes, when you look at our Los Angeles refinery, it is the largest jet fuel producer within our system, and it resides in one of the three largest demand hubs in the United States, which is certainly gonna continue to be a differentiator for us out there on the West Coast.
I'll leave you with, on the jet side, you know, we are the largest producer of jet fuel in the United States, and then within all of our complexes, when you look at our Los Angeles refinery, it is the largest jet fuel producer within our system, and it resides in one of the three largest demand hubs in the United States, which is certainly gonna continue to be a differentiator for us out there on the West Coast.
Speaker #6: And it resides in one of the three largest demand hubs in the United States, which is certainly going to continue to be a differentiator for us out there on the West Coast.
Speaker #6: And then maybe lastly, what I'd give you a little color around, Neil, is within the Mid-Con and the West Coast specifically, we had strong utilization.
Rick Hessling: And then maybe lastly, what I'd give you a little color around, Neil, is within the MidCon and the West Coast specifically, we had strong utilization, we ran really well, and we had really strong margin capture because of our strong utilization and because of the connectivity that we've spoke on many times from a products to feedstocks perspective that weaves in and out between our MidCon refineries and optimizes 800,000 barrels a day like no other player in that market can do so. So that's a MidCon reference specifically, but in the West Coast, we have similar optionality when you look at the West Coast, and it's tied to our Pacific Northwest. So both of those regions specifically, I wanted to call out to your attention, Neil.
And then maybe lastly, what I'd give you a little color around, Neil, is within the MidCon and the West Coast specifically, we had strong utilization, we ran really well, and we had really strong margin capture because of our strong utilization and because of the connectivity that we've spoke on many times from a products to feedstocks perspective that weaves in and out between our MidCon refineries and optimizes 800,000 barrels a day like no other player in that market can do so.So that's a MidCon reference specifically, but in the West Coast, we have similar optionality when you look at the West Coast, and it's tied to our Pacific Northwest. So both of those regions specifically, I wanted to call out to your attention, Neil.
Speaker #6: We ran really well. And we had really strong margin capture because of our strong utilization and because of the connectivity that we've spoke on many times from a products-to-feedstocks perspective that weaves in and out between our midcon refineries and optimizes 800,000 barrels a day like no other player in that market can do so.
Speaker #6: So that's a midcon reference specifically. But in the West Coast, we have similar optionality when you look at the West Coast and its tie to our Pacific Northwest.
Speaker #6: So, both of those regions specifically, I wanted to call out to your attention,
Speaker #6: Neil. Yeah, thank you
[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs): ... Thank you so much. The just follow-up is on return of capital. Last year, you guys put up $4.5 billion between the buyback and the dividend. Maryann, I don't know if you can comment on this, but as you look at consensus numbers and forward cracks, do you think that you can match or beat that number as you go into next year?
Neil Mehta: ... Thank you so much. The just follow-up is on return of capital. Last year, you guys put up $4.5 billion between the buyback and the dividend. Maryann, I don't know if you can comment on this, but as you look at consensus numbers and forward cracks, do you think that you can match or beat that number as you go into next year?
Speaker #4: So much. And just a follow-up on return of capital. Last year, you guys put up $4.5 billion between the buyback and the dividend. And Maryann, I don't know if you can comment on this, but as you look at consensus numbers and forward cracks, do you think that you can match or beat that number as you go into next year?
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks, Neil. So first and foremost, you know, one of our key strategic commitments is to ensure that we're delivering the strongest through cash cycle.
Maryann Mannen: Yes. Thanks, Neil. So first and foremost, you know, one of our key strategic commitments is to ensure that we're delivering the strongest cash flow through cycle, sorry, excuse me, and that was clearly 2025. As you look at that consensus, assuming current market cracks, that would be indicative of us being able to repeat a similar pattern that we did in 2025. So yes, I think that is clearly within our ability to deliver in 2026.
Maryann Mannen: Yes. Thanks, Neil. So first and foremost, you know, one of our key strategic commitments is to ensure that we're delivering the strongest cash flow through cycle, sorry, excuse me, and that was clearly 2025. As you look at that consensus, assuming current market cracks, that would be indicative of us being able to repeat a similar pattern that we did in 2025. So yes, I think that is clearly within our ability to deliver in 2026.
Speaker #3: Sorry, strongest cash flow through the cycle—excuse me—and that was clearly 2025. As you look at that consensus, assuming current market cracks, that would be indicative of us being able to repeat a similar pattern that we did in 2025.
Speaker #3: So, yes, I think that is clearly within our ability to deliver in 2026.
Speaker #4: Very good.
[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs): Great.
Neil Mehta: Great.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from Manab. I'm sorry, Manab Gupta with UBS. Your line is
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Manav, I'm sorry, Manav Gupta with UBS. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Manav, I'm sorry, Manav Gupta with UBS. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: open. Hey, good morning, Maryann
[Analyst] (UBS): Hey, good morning, Maryann and team. Congrats. Look, I mean, we did not see a 4-dollar UPS, so you definitely surprised us to the upside. So congratulations on that. Maryann, I wanted to talk to you about this, especially because I know you, we saw you with the president also. Looks like Venezuelan crude production will ramp, and we wondered, you briefly mentioned, you know, Garyville. Just trying to understand how much more incremental Venezuelan barrels you could absorb in your system. And then if Rick can also talk about, you know, if these barrels do show up on the Gulf Coast, would that also mean that WCS differentials could widen so your mid-con capture could also go up? If you could talk a few, you know, around that topic.
Manav Gupta: Hey, good morning, Maryann and team. Congrats. Look, I mean, we did not see a 4-dollar UPS, so you definitely surprised us to the upside. So congratulations on that. Maryann, I wanted to talk to you about this, especially because I know you, we saw you with the president also.
Speaker #7: and team. Congrats, look, I mean, we did not see a $4 UPS. So you definitely surprised us to the upside. So congratulations on that.
Speaker #7: Maryann, I wanted to talk to you about this, especially because I know we saw you with the president also looks like Venezuelan crude production will ramp.
Looks like Venezuelan crude production will ramp, and we wondered, you briefly mentioned, you know, Garyville. Just trying to understand how much more incremental Venezuelan barrels you could absorb in your system. And then if Rick can also talk about, you know, if these barrels do show up on the Gulf Coast, would that also mean that WCS differentials could widen so your mid-con capture could also go up? If you could talk a few, you know, around that topic.
Speaker #7: And we wanted you briefly mentioned, you know, Gary will, but just trying to understand how much more incremental Venezuelan barrels you could absorb in your system.
Speaker #7: And then if Rick can also talk about, you know, if these barrels do show up on the Gulf Coast, would that also mean that WCS differentials could widen?
Speaker #7: So you're midcon capture could also go up if you could talk a few, you know, around that topic.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks, Manab. Thanks for the question. You know, I'd say this first. Overall, you know, we've viewed the access to more Venezuelan crude as positive for U.S.
Maryann Mannen: Yeah. Thanks, Manav. Thanks for the question. You know, I'd say this first. Overall, you know, we view the access to more Venezuelan crude as positive for US energy and even specifically for MPC as well. You know, if you look at our system capabilities, you look at our assets, you mentioned Garyville specifically, we have the most crude optionality, optimization, sophistication, and the ability to address complex refining opportunities. And Garyville is an outstanding example of that. You look at our sour basket, right? We're running approximately 50% sour crude diet across the system. Look, I think that's probably 10% stronger than our closest peer.
Maryann Mannen: Yeah. Thanks, Manav. Thanks for the question. You know, I'd say this first. Overall, you know, we view the access to more Venezuelan crude as positive for US energy and even specifically for MPC as well. You know, if you look at our system capabilities, you look at our assets, you mentioned Garyville specifically, we have the most crude optionality, optimization, sophistication, and the ability to address complex refining opportunities. And Garyville is an outstanding example of that. You look at our sour basket, right? We're running approximately 50% sour crude diet across the system. Look, I think that's probably 10% stronger than our closest peer.
Speaker #3: energy. And even specifically for MPC as well. You know, if you look at our system capabilities, you look at our assets, you mentioned Gary will specifically, we have the most crude optionality optimization sophistication and the ability to address complex refining opportunities.
Speaker #3: And Gary will's an outstanding example of that. You look at our sour basket, right? We're running approximately 50% sour crude diet across the system.
Speaker #3: Look, I think that's probably 10% stronger than our closest peer. So if you think about that, if there were to be a dollar movement in sour differentials, on an annual basis, that's a $500 million benefit to MPC.
Maryann Mannen: So if you think about that, if there were to be a dollar movement in sour differentials, on an annual basis, that's a $500 million benefit to MPC, just from a dollar, a dollar movement. I think you know this, you know, we import more barrels of Canadian, Mexican, and Venezuelan combined than really all of our peers. We've got a deep sour basket, WCS, Athabasca crudes, ANS and Maya. So I think overall, certainly positive for MPC as well. I'm going to pass it to Rick and have him give you a little more color as it relates to the specificity around the diffs.
So if you think about that, if there were to be a dollar movement in sour differentials, on an annual basis, that's a $500 million benefit to MPC, just from a dollar, a dollar movement. I think you know this, you know, we import more barrels of Canadian, Mexican, and Venezuelan combined than really all of our peers. We've got a deep sour basket, WCS, Athabasca crudes, ANS and Maya. So I think overall, certainly positive for MPC as well. I'm going to pass it to Rick and have him give you a little more color as it relates to the specificity around the diffs.
Speaker #3: Just from a dollar movement, I think you know this—you know, we import more barrels of Canadian, Mexican, and Venezuelan combined than really all of our peers.
Speaker #3: And we've got a deep sour basket, WCS, ASCII crudes, ANS, and Maya. So I think overall, certainly positive for MPC as well. I'm going to pass it to Rick and have him give you a little more color as it relates to this
Speaker #3: specificity around the diffs. Yeah,
Rick Hessling: Yeah. Hi, Manav. Your question is quite insightful because when I step back and look at what's happened here over the last 30 days-ish, I would say it's a differential story. And when you look at the Venz barrels coming into the US Gulf Coast, they're incremental barrels, so they're putting pressure on the entire complex. And so if you zoom out and say, okay, what does that mean from an MPC perspective? I think you are well aware we have incredible flexibility. As an example, we have the ability, and have some years, run over 100 different flavors of crude oil, and that's due to our optionality and connectivity via pipeline barrels and waterborne barrels.
Rick Hessling: Yeah. Hi, Manav. Your question is quite insightful because when I step back and look at what's happened here over the last 30 days-ish, I would say it's a differential story. And when you look at the Venz barrels coming into the US Gulf Coast, they're incremental barrels, so they're putting pressure on the entire complex. And so if you zoom out and say, okay, what does that mean from an MPC perspective? I think you are well aware we have incredible flexibility. As an example, we have the ability, and have some years, run over 100 different flavors of crude oil, and that's due to our optionality and connectivity via pipeline barrels and waterborne barrels.
Speaker #4: hi, Manab. Your question is quite insightful because when I step back and look at what's happened here over the next, over the last 30 days, ish, I would say it's a differential story.
Speaker #4: And when you look at the Venz barrels coming into the U.S. Gulf Coast, they're incremental barrels. So they're putting pressure on the entire complex.
Speaker #4: And so, if you zoom out and say, okay, what does that mean from an MPC perspective, I think you are well aware we have incredible flexibility, as an example.
Speaker #4: We have the ability and have some years run over 100 different flavors of crude oil. And that's due to our optionality and connectivity via pipeline barrels and waterborne barrels.
Speaker #4: And I will say and say this strongly, we will not be the largest buyer of Venz crudes because we have more advantageous options, especially as Maryann mentioned, especially as the sweet sour basket widens which we've certainly seen.
Rick Hessling: And I will say, and say this strongly, we will not be the largest buyer of Venez crudes because we have more advantageous options, especially as Maryann mentioned, especially as the sweet sour basket widens, which we've certainly seen. No one has more upside than MPC. And I will tell you, we have purchased two parcels of Venez crude. Actually, Friday of last week, we purchased two, two cargoes, but those were the first two cargoes of many, many, many offers that we saw on the screen, Manav, that were in the money. So as you know, we're only going to purchase what is economically, anything that is economically advantaged for us. So, that's just a good example of we have better options, Manav. That's a short way of saying it.
And I will say, and say this strongly, we will not be the largest buyer of Venez crudes because we have more advantageous options, especially as Maryann mentioned, especially as the sweet sour basket widens, which we've certainly seen. No one has more upside than MPC. And I will tell you, we have purchased two parcels of Venez crude. Actually, Friday of last week, we purchased two, two cargoes, but those were the first two cargoes of many, many, many offers that we saw on the screen, Manav, that were in the money. So as you know, we're only going to purchase what is economically, anything that is economically advantaged for us. So, that's just a good example of we have better options, Manav. That's a short way of saying it.
Speaker #4: No one has more upside than MPC. And I will tell you, we have purchased two parcels of Venez crude, actually Friday of last week.
Speaker #4: We purchased two cargos. But those were the first two cargos of many, many, many offers that we saw on the screen, Manab, that were in the money.
Speaker #4: So, as you know, we're only going to purchase what is economically—anything that is economically advantaged for us. So that's just a good example of—we have better options, Manab.
Speaker #4: That's a short way of saying it. And specifically, when you look at the softening of sour crudes, post the Venezuelan announcement and even before the Venezuelan announcement, if you look at WCS specifically, it's widened anywhere from 1 to $2 a barrel.
Rick Hessling: And specifically, when you look at the softening of sour crudes post the Venezuelan announcement and even before the Venezuelan announcement, if you look at WCS specifically, it's widened anywhere from $1 to $2 a barrel. And ironically, I would tell you, when you look at the prompt month, I actually think as you look at the forward curve, it is showing that it's going to widen out even a bit more because many of these Venezuelan barrels have not reached the market yet and have not been run yet. So hopefully, that gives you some good color, Manav, one, as to our position, two, the impact of Venz barrels and what we feel is a significant advantage for us.
And specifically, when you look at the softening of sour crudes post the Venezuelan announcement and even before the Venezuelan announcement, if you look at WCS specifically, it's widened anywhere from $1 to $2 a barrel. And ironically, I would tell you, when you look at the prompt month, I actually think as you look at the forward curve, it is showing that it's going to widen out even a bit more because many of these Venezuelan barrels have not reached the market yet and have not been run yet. So hopefully, that gives you some good color, Manav, one, as to our position, two, the impact of Venz barrels and what we feel is a significant advantage for us.
Speaker #4: And ironically, I would tell you, when you look at the prompt month, I actually think, as you look at the forward curve, it is showing that it's going to widen out even a bit more because many of these Venezuelan barrels have not reached the market yet and have not been run yet.
Speaker #4: So hopefully that gives you some good color, Manab. One, as to our position. Two, the impact of Venz barrels and what we feel is a significant advantage for
Speaker #4: us. Perfect.
[Analyst] (UBS): Perfect. I'm going to stick to Garyville. Can we get a little more color on these two projects? And what I'm specifically trying to understand is, let's say MPLX was pursuing these projects, you know? They would probably be like a 5x build multiple, and for a $445 million investment, you could probably even make $90 million in EBITDA. I'm just trying to understand. I understand it's not MPLX; it's MPC pursuing them, but should we think about the returns in, in a similar way, mid-teen unlevered IRR? If you could talk a little bit about the two projects and, and what returns can we expect from these projects?
Manav Gupta: Perfect. I'm going to stick to Garyville. Can we get a little more color on these two projects? And what I'm specifically trying to understand is, let's say MPLX was pursuing these projects, you know? They would probably be like a 5x build multiple, and for a $445 million investment, you could probably even make $90 million in EBITDA. I'm just trying to understand. I understand it's not MPLX; it's MPC pursuing them, but should we think about the returns in, in a similar way, mid-teen unlevered IRR? If you could talk a little bit about the two projects and, and what returns can we expect from these projects?
Speaker #7: I'm going to stick to Gary will. Can we get a little more color on these two projects? And what I'm specifically trying to understand is, let's say MPLX was pursuing these projects, you know, they would probably be like a five-build multiple.
Speaker #7: And for a $445 million investment, you could probably even make $90 million in EBITDA. And I'm just trying to understand, I understand it's not MPLX, it's MPC pursuing them, but should we think about the returns in a similar way mid-teen unlevered IRR?
Speaker #7: If you could talk a little bit about the two projects, and what returns can we expect from these projects?
Speaker #4: Sure, Manab, we can answer that. A few things on the Gary will projects. First of all, I want to say that's one of our top-performing facilities.
Mike Hennigan: ... Sure, Manav, we can answer that. A few things on the Garyville projects. First of all, I want to say that's one of our top-performing facilities, so we'll continue to invest in it. The first project is our feedstock optimization at Garyville, basically to improve margin. This will increase crude rate somewhere around 30,000 barrels while we're displacing higher cost intermediate purchases. The capital spend in 2026 is right at about $110 million, with additional $185 million in 2027, and we have full intentions to have it online year-end 2027. The second project at Garyville is our product export flexibility. So basically, we're exporting premium gasoline production at a lower cost.
Mike Hennigan: ... Sure, Manav, we can answer that. A few things on the Garyville projects. First of all, I want to say that's one of our top-performing facilities, so we'll continue to invest in it. The first project is our feedstock optimization at Garyville, basically to improve margin. This will increase crude rate somewhere around 30,000 barrels while we're displacing higher cost intermediate purchases. The capital spend in 2026 is right at about $110 million, with additional $185 million in 2027, and we have full intentions to have it online year-end 2027. The second project at Garyville is our product export flexibility. So basically, we're exporting premium gasoline production at a lower cost.
Speaker #4: So we'll continue to invest in it. The first project is our feedstock optimization at Gary will, basically to improve margin. This will increase crude rates somewhere around $30,000 barrels while we're displacing higher-cost intermediate purchases.
Speaker #4: The capital spend in 2026 is right at about $110 million, with an additional $185 million in 2027. And we have full intentions to have it online year-end '27.
Speaker #4: The second project at Gary will is our product export flexibility. So basically we're export premium gasoline production at a lower cost. This investment will increase our flexibility to produce export premium gas by about 10,000 barrels.
Mike Hennigan: This investment will increase our flexibility to produce export premium gas by about 10,000 barrels and includes equipment upgrades to help our reliability, mainly around compression. Our capital spend in 2026 is right at about $50 million, with an additional $100 million in 2027, and we plan to be wrapped up with that a year in 2027 as well.
This investment will increase our flexibility to produce export premium gas by about 10,000 barrels and includes equipment upgrades to help our reliability, mainly around compression. Our capital spend in 2026 is right at about $50 million, with an additional $100 million in 2027, and we plan to be wrapped up with that a year in 2027 as well.
Speaker #4: And it includes equipment upgrades to help our reliability, mainly around compression. Our capital spend in 2026 is right at about $50 million, with an additional $100 million in 2027.
Speaker #4: And we plan to be wrapped up with that a year-end '27 as
Speaker #4: well. And
Maryann Mannen: And Manav, let me add a little bit more. Mike did a nice job of giving you some of the specifics on those two projects. I think one of the questions that you also asked is sort of what are the returns that we should expect? And when we're putting capital to work on the refining side, again, look through the lens of strict capital discipline, you know, we're looking for 25% returns here on these projects, so that's consistent. And as you know, when we're focused on that, we're looking for reliability, we're looking for upgrading capacity that will deliver incremental margin per barrel. That's the reason why we're doing it. We hope that answers your question, Manav.
Speaker #3: Manab, let me add a little bit more. Mike did a nice job of giving you some of the specifics on those two projects. I think one of the questions that you also asked is sort of: what are the returns that we should expect?
Maryann Mannen: And Manav, let me add a little bit more. Mike did a nice job of giving you some of the specifics on those two projects. I think one of the questions that you also asked is sort of what are the returns that we should expect? And when we're putting capital to work on the refining side, again, look through the lens of strict capital discipline, you know, we're looking for 25% returns here on these projects, so that's consistent. And as you know, when we're focused on that, we're looking for reliability, we're looking for upgrading capacity that will deliver incremental margin per barrel. That's the reason why we're doing it. We hope that answers your question, Manav.
Speaker #3: And when we're putting capital to work on the refining side, again, through the lens of strict capital discipline, you know, we're looking for 25% returns here on these projects.
Speaker #3: So that's consistent. And as you know, when we're focused on that, we're looking for reliability, we're looking for upgrading capacity, that will deliver incremental margin per barrel.
Speaker #3: That's the reason why we're doing it. We hope that answers your question, Manab.
Speaker #7: So even better return than midstream. So probably even a lower-build multiple than five. Thank you so much. Thank
[Analyst] (UBS): So, even better return than midstream, so probably even a lower multiple than 5. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Manav Gupta: So, even better return than midstream, so probably even a lower multiple than 5. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker #3: You're welcome,
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome, Manav.
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome, Manav.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Doug Leggett with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Doug Leggate with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Doug Leggate with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.
Speaker #8: Well, thanks. Good morning, everyone, and welcome, Maria. It's good to hear you on the call. I wonder, Maryann, this is probably a refining question, so I don't know if each wants to tackle it, but I guess the report on the third quarter was on the 4th of November.
[Analyst] (Wolfe Research): Thanks. Good morning, everyone, and welcome, Maria. It's good to hear you on the call. I wonder, Maryann, this is probably a refining question, so I don't know which ones to tackle it, but I guess the report in Q3 was on 4 November, and you guided us towards 90% refinery utilization. Then diesel margins spiked, and we didn't really see a huge blowout in heavy differentials, but you did swing towards a different slate than you guided towards. So I guess I'm trying to understand, what is the sensitivity when you can deliver a 4% utilization, a big swing towards heavy oil?
Doug Leggate: Thanks. Good morning, everyone, and welcome, Maria. It's good to hear you on the call. I wonder, Maryann, this is probably a refining question, so I don't know which ones to tackle it, but I guess the report in Q3 was on 4 November, and you guided us towards 90% refinery utilization. Then diesel margins spiked, and we didn't really see a huge blowout in heavy differentials, but you did swing towards a different slate than you guided towards. So I guess I'm trying to understand, what is the sensitivity when you can deliver a 4% utilization, a big swing towards heavy oil?
Speaker #8: And you guided us towards 90% refinery utilization. Then diesel margins spiked and we didn't really see a huge blowout in heavy differentials, but you did swing towards a different slate than you guided towards.
Speaker #8: So, I guess I'm trying to understand, what is the sensitivity when you can deliver a 4% beat in utilization? A big swing towards heavy oil.
[Analyst] (Wolfe Research): What should we consider that anytime we see blowout margins, Marathon is going to tweak the knobs to basically run significantly better into that margin environment? I'm just trying to get a handle as to what changed versus the guidance.
Speaker #8: What should we consider—that anytime we see blowout margins, Marathon is going to tweak the knobs to basically run significantly better into that margin environment?
What should we consider that anytime we see blowout margins, Marathon is going to tweak the knobs to basically run significantly better into that margin environment? I'm just trying to get a handle as to what changed versus the guidance.
Speaker #8: I'm just trying to get a handle as to what is a change versus a guidance.
Speaker #3: Yes, thanks for the question, Doug. I'll say, first and foremost, the answer to that is yes. That is really what we are trying to do every day.
Maryann Mannen: Yes, thanks for the question, Doug. I'll say first and foremost, the answer to that is yes. That is really what we are trying to do every day. You hear Rick talk about expanding the crack. You hear about our planning capabilities. We are building them each and every quarter, which gives us the ability to respond very rapidly to market conditions that we see, and therefore, given the, I'll say, the capability of our assets, particularly when you look at yield conversion, you mentioned diesel, I think that is one of the strengths that we have in the complexity and the optimization in our system. You know, when you look at optimization, I think it's critically important for us to, you know, be able to continue to demonstrate that.
Maryann Mannen: Yes, thanks for the question, Doug. I'll say first and foremost, the answer to that is yes. That is really what we are trying to do every day. You hear Rick talk about expanding the crack. You hear about our planning capabilities.
Speaker #3: You hear Rick talk about expanding the crack. You hear about our planning capabilities. We are building them each and every quarter, which gives us the ability to respond very rapidly to market conditions that we see and therefore given the, I'll say the capability of our assets, particularly when you look at yield conversion, you mentioned diesel, I think that is one of the strengths that we have in the complexity and the optimization in our system.
We are building them each and every quarter, which gives us the ability to respond very rapidly to market conditions that we see, and therefore, given the, I'll say, the capability of our assets, particularly when you look at yield conversion, you mentioned diesel, I think that is one of the strengths that we have in the complexity and the optimization in our system. You know, when you look at optimization, I think it's critically important for us to, you know, be able to continue to demonstrate that. So that's what I would tell you was the capability there in the quarter.
Speaker #3: You know, when you look at optimization, I think it's critically important for us to be able to continue to demonstrate that. So that's what I would tell you was the capability there in the—
Maryann Mannen: So that's what I would tell you was the capability there in the quarter.
Speaker #3: quarter. I appreciate the answer.
[Analyst] (Wolfe Research): I appreciate the answer. I realize it's, it's not, you know, there's some sensitivities around this, but I, I'm grateful for that. My follow-on is on CapEx. Obviously, you've dropped the CapEx a little bit this year. You're still covering your CapEx and your dividends with the MPLX distributions. And I guess I'm really, you know, 2026 is great. I'm really trying to think about how do we think about Marathon spending longer term. Is the cap on your-- because I'm sure you've got a bunch of projects that you can select, but is the cap to stay below that MPLX distribution threshold, or should we expect CapEx to drop off at some point? Because obviously it's only down a little bit in 2025, 2026.
Doug Leggate: I appreciate the answer. I realize it's, it's not, you know, there's some sensitivities around this, but I, I'm grateful for that. My follow-on is on CapEx. Obviously, you've dropped the CapEx a little bit this year. You're still covering your CapEx and your dividends with the MPLX distributions. And I guess I'm really, you know, 2026 is great. I'm really trying to think about how do we think about Marathon spending longer term. Is the cap on your-- because I'm sure you've got a bunch of projects that you can select, but is the cap to stay below that MPLX distribution threshold, or should we expect CapEx to drop off at some point? Because obviously it's only down a little bit in 2025, 2026.
Speaker #8: I realize it's not—you know, there's some sensitivities around this—but I'm grateful for that. My follow-on is on CAPEX. Obviously, you've dropped the CAPEX a little bit this year.
Speaker #8: You're still covering your CAPEX and your dividends with the MPLX distributions. And I guess I'm really, you know, 2026 is great. I'm really trying to think about how do we think about Marathon spending longer term.
Speaker #8: Is the cap on your, because I'm sure you've got a bunch of projects that you can select, but is the cap to stay below that MPLX distribution threshold or should we expect CAPEX to drop off at some point?
Speaker #8: Because, obviously, it's only down a little bit in 2025, 2026.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks. Doug, so, you know, maybe just to reiterate—in 2026, we are looking at a 20% reduction in the refining spend off of 2025.
Maryann Mannen: Yeah. Thanks, Doug. So, you know, maybe just to reiterate, in 2026, we are looking at a 20% reduction in the refining spend off of 2025. And as you heard in our prepared remarks, we continue to expect that 2027 and 2028 capital on the refining side will come down. And so we think it's critically important. I talk about the strategic relationship between MPC and MPLX, and as that distribution grows, we're covering the CapEx that we are putting to work to ensure that we remain competitive in every region where we operate and deliver, if you will, the utilization that we just discussed. That's, that's critically important to us, and also cover the MPC dividend. And then we take that remaining cash, as we said, and we return that via share buyback. You can see that in 2025.
Maryann Mannen: Yeah. Thanks, Doug. So, you know, maybe just to reiterate, in 2026, we are looking at a 20% reduction in the refining spend off of 2025. And as you heard in our prepared remarks, we continue to expect that 2027 and 2028 capital on the refining side will come down. And so we think it's critically important. I talk about the strategic relationship between MPC and MPLX, and as that distribution grows, we're covering the CapEx that we are putting to work to ensure that we remain competitive in every region where we operate and deliver, if you will, the utilization that we just discussed. That's, that's critically important to us, and also cover the MPC dividend.
Speaker #3: And as you heard in our prepared remarks, we continue to expect that 2027 and 2028 capital on the refining side will come down. And so we think it's critically important.
Speaker #3: I talk about the strategic relationship between MPC and MPLX and as that distribution grows, we're covering the CAPEX that we are putting to work to ensure that we remain competitive in every region where we operate and deliver if you will the utilization that we just discussed.
Speaker #3: That's critically important to us. And also cover the MPC dividend. And then we take that remaining cash, as we said, and we return that via share buyback.
And then we take that remaining cash, as we said, and we return that via share buyback. You can see that in 2025. Hopefully was responsive to Neil's question as well, that should be a repeat in 2026. So that is what we are trying to do. We're only putting to work capital investments through that lens of strict capital discipline. We see it coming down again in 2027 on the refining side and in 2028.
Speaker #3: You can see that in 2025. Hopefully it was responsive to Neil's question as well that that should be a repeat in 2026. So that is what we are trying to do.
Maryann Mannen: Hopefully was responsive to Neil's question as well, that should be a repeat in 2026. So that is what we are trying to do. We're only putting to work capital investments through that lens of strict capital discipline. We see it coming down again in 2027 on the refining side and in 2028.
Speaker #3: We're only putting to work capital investments through that lens of strict capital discipline. We see it coming down again in 2027 on the refining side.
Speaker #3: And in 2028.
Speaker #8: Right. Thank
[Analyst] (Wolfe Research): Great. Thank you.
Doug Leggate: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #8: you. You're
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome, Doug.
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome, Doug.
Speaker #1: Our next welcome, Doug. question comes from Paul Chang with Scotiabank. Your line is
Operator: Our next question comes from Paul Cheng with Scotiabank. Your line, your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Paul Cheng with Scotiabank. Your line, your line is open.
Speaker #4: Hey guys, good
Mike Hennigan: Hey, guys. Good morning.
Paul Cheng: Hey, guys. Good morning.
Speaker #4: morning. Good morning,
Maryann Mannen: Good morning, Paul.
Maryann Mannen: Good morning, Paul.
Mike Hennigan: Maryann, two questions. First, on the stand-alone basis, the CapEx for this year is about $1.5 billion, and-
Speaker #4: Maryann, two Paul. questions. First, on the standalone basis, the CAPEX for this year is about 1.5 billion. And last year that you end up spending about 1.6, which is higher than what the previously expected.
Paul Cheng: Maryann, two questions. First, on the stand-alone basis, the CapEx for this year is about $1.5 billion, and-
[Analyst] (Scotiabank): ... last year that you end up spending about $1.6, which is higher than what previously expected. On a going forward basis, is that the kind of good reasonable baseline we should assume going forward? Or that this is a number of new projects that over the next 2 or 3 years, that as they roll off, that your spending is going to be lower. And secondly, that you guys is representing the industry to negotiate with the USW, and they just reject the last offer, I think last Friday. So can you give us an update, what's the deadline and what's the next step? And also that what are the most sticky point between the industry and the union?
... last year that you end up spending about $1.6, which is higher than what previously expected. On a going forward basis, is that the kind of good reasonable baseline we should assume going forward? Or that this is a number of new projects that over the next 2 or 3 years, that as they roll off, that your spending is going to be lower. And secondly, that you guys is representing the industry to negotiate with the USW, and they just reject the last offer, I think last Friday. So can you give us an update, what's the deadline and what's the next step? And also that what are the most sticky point between the industry and the union?
Speaker #4: On the going forward basis, is that the kind of good reasonable baseline we should assume going forward? Or that this is a number of new projects that over the next two or three years that as they roll off, that your spending is going to be lower?
Speaker #4: And secondly, that you guys is representing the industry to negotiate with the USW and they just reject the last offer, I think last Friday.
Speaker #4: So can you give us an update what's the deadline and what's the next step? And also that what are the most sticky points between the industry and the union?
Speaker #4: What's the biggest difference, in order to strike the deal? Thank you.
[Analyst] (Scotiabank): What's the biggest differences that in order to strike the deal? Thank you.
What's the biggest differences that in order to strike the deal? Thank you.
Speaker #4: you. Yeah, thank
Maryann Mannen: Yeah. Thank you, Paul. So first and foremost, on refining spending, in 2025, to your first part of the question, we did spend slightly more than we had initially guided to, and one of those key spending areas was on the El Paso project. I spoke about it. Mike gave a little more color, and we can certainly do that again if that would be helpful. We started that project in 2025, given the returns on that project and the benefit for the local region, so that that project will actually complete in 2026, as you heard me say. Then, for our 2027 spend and our 2028 spend for refining, we expect both of those years to be below 2026 spending. So again, a lens of strict capital discipline there, reducing that spend.
Maryann Mannen: Yeah. Thank you, Paul. So first and foremost, on refining spending, in 2025, to your first part of the question, we did spend slightly more than we had initially guided to, and one of those key spending areas was on the El Paso project. I spoke about it. Mike gave a little more color, and we can certainly do that again if that would be helpful. We started that project in 2025, given the returns on that project and the benefit for the local region, so that that project will actually complete in 2026, as you heard me say. Then, for our 2027 spend and our 2028 spend for refining, we expect both of those years to be below 2026 spending. So again, a lens of strict capital discipline there, reducing that spend.
Speaker #3: you, Paul. So first and foremost, on refining spending, in 2025, to your first part of the question, we did spend slightly more than we had initially guided to.
Speaker #3: And one of those key spending areas was on the El Paso project. I spoke about it. Mike gave a little more color and we can certainly do that again if that would be helpful.
Speaker #3: We started that project in 2025, given the returns on that project and the benefit for the local region. So that project will actually complete in 2026, as you heard me say.
Speaker #3: Then for our 2027 spend and our 2028 spend for refining, we expect both of those years to be below 2026 spending. So again, a lens of strict capital discipline there, reducing that spend.
Speaker #3: We've got, as you know, a couple of projects that we were completing, like the LAR project. We've got DHT that will complete and that's part of our capital spend this year, taking high sulfur diesel and being able to convert it to ultra low sulfur diesel for broader market and margin opportunity.
Maryann Mannen: We've got, as you know, a couple of projects that we were completing, like the LAR project. We've got DHT that will complete, and that's part of our capital spend this year, taking high sulfur diesel and being able to convert it to ultra-low sulfur diesel for broader market and margin opportunity. And so that's the story, if you will, on our commitment to lowering capital spend in the refining side, and why we saw a little bit of a higher spend in 2025. I'm gonna pass it to Mike, who's at the tip of the spear there, if you will, on the negotiations, and I'll, I'll have him share with you the status of that. Thanks, Paul.
We've got, as you know, a couple of projects that we were completing, like the LAR project. We've got DHT that will complete, and that's part of our capital spend this year, taking high sulfur diesel and being able to convert it to ultra-low sulfur diesel for broader market and margin opportunity. And so that's the story, if you will, on our commitment to lowering capital spend in the refining side, and why we saw a little bit of a higher spend in 2025. I'm gonna pass it to Mike, who's at the tip of the spear there, if you will, on the negotiations, and I'll, I'll have him share with you the status of that. Thanks, Paul.
Speaker #3: So that's the story if you will on our commitment to lowering capital spend in the refining side and why we saw a little bit of a higher spend in 2025.
Speaker #3: I'm going to pass it to Mike, who's at the tip of the spear there, if you will, on the negotiations, and I'll have him share with you the status of that.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Paul.
Speaker #2: Hey, good morning, Paul. We continue to meet with the steel workers at the international level. And we're continuing to negotiate at a pattern agreement for all of our facilities and the industry.
Mike Hennigan: Hey, good morning, Paul. We continue to meet with the steel workers at the international level, and we're continuing to negotiate a pattern agreement for all of our facilities and in the industry. You're correct, our contracts did expire in 31 January, but we do have rolling 24-hour extensions based on our previous contracts, which in my opinion, is a good thing. It's a positive sign that we're making progress. As you know, we're committed to bargaining in good faith, working together to mutually come up with a satisfactory agreement for both us and the USW. But the discussions have went well. I'm not gonna get into the sticky points at all, but I will say we're having open and good dialogue.
Mike Hennigan: Hey, good morning, Paul. We continue to meet with the steel workers at the international level, and we're continuing to negotiate a pattern agreement for all of our facilities and in the industry. You're correct, our contracts did expire in 31 January, but we do have rolling 24-hour extensions based on our previous contracts, which in my opinion, is a good thing. It's a positive sign that we're making progress. As you know, we're committed to bargaining in good faith, working together to mutually come up with a satisfactory agreement for both us and the USW. But the discussions have went well. I'm not gonna get into the sticky points at all, but I will say we're having open and good dialogue.
Speaker #2: You're correct, our contract did expire in January 31st, but we do have rolling 24-hour extensions based on our previous contracts, which in my opinion is a good thing.
Speaker #2: It's a positive sign that we're making progress. As you know, we're committed to bargaining in good faith. Working together to mutually come up with a satisfactory agreement for both us and the USW.
Speaker #2: Went well. I'm not going to get into the sticky points at all, but I will say we're having open and good dialogue.
Speaker #4: Hey, Maryann, can I ask, as a follow-up on 2027-2028, should we assume the CAPEX is going to be closer to a billion dollars, or that it's still going to be somewhat higher but less than $1.5 billion?
[Analyst] (Scotiabank): Maryann, can I ask, as a follow-up, on 2027, 2028, should we assume the CapEx is going to be closer to $1 billion, or that is still going to be somewhat higher, but less than $1.5 billion?
Paul Cheng: Maryann, can I ask, as a follow-up, on 2027, 2028, should we assume the CapEx is going to be closer to $1 billion, or that is still going to be somewhat higher, but less than $1.5 billion?
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks, Paul. I think it's a little bit early for us to give guidance on 2027 and 2028, but you do have the commitment, as we've said, that 2027 and 2028 will be below the spending for 2026.
Maryann Mannen: Yeah. Thanks, Paul. I think it's a little bit early for us to give guidance on 2027 and 2028, but you do have the commitment, as we've said, that 2027 and 2028 will be below the spending for 2026. You can see the refining spend that we've outlined for 2026, which would help with that. We're still a little early for specific guidance on 2027 and 2028, but it will be lower.
Maryann Mannen: Yeah. Thanks, Paul. I think it's a little bit early for us to give guidance on 2027 and 2028, but you do have the commitment, as we've said, that 2027 and 2028 will be below the spending for 2026. You can see the refining spend that we've outlined for 2026, which would help with that. We're still a little early for specific guidance on 2027 and 2028, but it will be lower.
Speaker #3: And you can see the refining spend that we've outlined for 2026, which would help with that. We're still a little early for specific guidance on 2027 and 2028, but it will be
Speaker #3: lower. Thank
[Analyst] (Scotiabank): Thank you.
Paul Cheng: Thank you.
Speaker #3: You're welcome, Paul. Thank you.
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome, Paul. Thank you.
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome, Paul. Thank you.
Speaker #3: you. Our next question
Operator: Our next question comes from Theresa Chen with Barclays. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Theresa Chen with Barclays. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: The next question comes from Teresa Chen with Barclays. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: Hello, thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about your comments, Maryann, on global consumption patterns. If you could walk us through your views of demand going forward across the key products, and specifically what underlies your view that demand-supply for the year ahead, and maybe beyond, is indeed going to be positive for refining economics.
[Analyst] (Barclays): Hello. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about your comments, Maryann, on global consumption patterns. And if you could walk us through your views of demand going forward across the key products, and specifically, what underlies your view that, you know, demand, supply, for the year ahead and maybe beyond, is indeed going to be positive for refining economics, taking into account the significant capacity expansions we're seeing coming online in Asia?
Theresa Chen: Hello. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about your comments, Maryann, on global consumption patterns. And if you could walk us through your views of demand going forward across the key products, and specifically, what underlies your view that, you know, demand, supply, for the year ahead and maybe beyond, is indeed going to be positive for refining economics, taking into account the significant capacity expansions we're seeing coming online in Asia?
Speaker #5: Taking into account the significant capacity expansions we're seeing coming online in
Speaker #5: Asia? Yeah, thank you, Teresa.
Maryann Mannen: Yes, thank you, Theresa. I appreciate the question. You know, I'd say first and foremost, you know, when we look at 2026, you know, as we mentioned, we continue to believe that 2026 is gonna be another year of strong, refined product demand. You know, when you look at the estimates out over the next 5, frankly, over the next 10 years, really, and you look at demand expectations, you know, you see that growth year on year, 1 to 1.2 growth over that time period. That's just not domestically, right? We, we look at it on a, on a global basis. Specifically, to your question around 2026, I think there is supply coming online. You've got an Indian refinery and an Asian refinery.
Maryann Mannen: Yes, thank you, Theresa. I appreciate the question. You know, I'd say first and foremost, you know, when we look at 2026, you know, as we mentioned, we continue to believe that 2026 is gonna be another year of strong, refined product demand. You know, when you look at the estimates out over the next 5, frankly, over the next 10 years, really, and you look at demand expectations, you know, you see that growth year on year, 1 to 1.2 growth over that time period. That's just not domestically, right? We, we look at it on a, on a global basis. Specifically, to your question around 2026, I think there is supply coming online. You've got an Indian refinery and an Asian refinery.
Speaker #3: I appreciate the question. You know, it's a first and foremost, you know, when we look at 2026, you know, as we mentioned, we continue to believe that 2026 is going to be another year of strong refined product demand.
Speaker #3: You know, when you look at the estimates out over the next five, frankly, over the next 10 years, really, and you look at demand expectations, you know, you see that growth year on year, one to 1.2 growth over that time period.
Speaker #3: That's just not domestically, right? We look at it on a global basis. Specifically to your question around 2026, I think there is supply coming online.
Speaker #3: You've got, in Indian refinery and in Asian refinery, I think that's probably somewhere in a range of about a million a day. But the lion's share of that capacity is really pointed toward the petchem market.
Maryann Mannen: I think that's probably somewhere in a range of about 1 million a day, but the lion's share of that capacity is really pointed toward the pet chem market. And I'd also say, you know, and we've seen this with some other capacity additions, even when you look at Dos Bocas or Dangote, the pace at which that capacity comes online is typically a bit slower than what we would otherwise have expected. So long-term fundamentals support stronger margins, demand over the long term. This may be for 2026. You know, we saw a little bit of this in 2025, maybe a little more back-end loaded, notwithstanding, you know, some of the macro volatility when we look at OPEC, when we look at Iran, we look at Venezuela volatility.
I think that's probably somewhere in a range of about 1 million a day, but the lion's share of that capacity is really pointed toward the pet chem market. And I'd also say, you know, and we've seen this with some other capacity additions, even when you look at Dos Bocas or Dangote, the pace at which that capacity comes online is typically a bit slower than what we would otherwise have expected. So long-term fundamentals support stronger margins, demand over the long term. This may be for 2026. You know, we saw a little bit of this in 2025, maybe a little more back-end loaded, notwithstanding, you know, some of the macro volatility when we look at OPEC, when we look at Iran, we look at Venezuela volatility.
Speaker #3: And I'd also say, you know, we've seen this with some other capacity additions—even when you look at Daspokas or Dangote, the pace at which that capacity comes online is typically a bit slower than what we would otherwise have expected.
Speaker #3: So long-term fundamentals, support stronger margins, demand over the long term, this may be for 2026, you know, we saw a little bit of this in 2025, maybe a little more backend loaded, notwithstanding some of the macro volatility when we look at OPEC, when we look at Iran, when we look at Venezuela, volatility.
Speaker #3: This could be a little more backend-loaded in 2026, but they would be the reasons why we have a strong conviction in the macro and the refining outlook, not only for 2026, obviously, but for, you know, a longer period of time.
Maryann Mannen: This could be a little more back-end loaded in 2026, but they would be the reasons why we have a strong conviction in the macro and the refining outlook, not only for 2026, obviously, but for, you know, a longer period of time. So our, our view really, is unchanged.
This could be a little more back-end loaded in 2026, but they would be the reasons why we have a strong conviction in the macro and the refining outlook, not only for 2026, obviously, but for, you know, a longer period of time. So our, our view really, is unchanged.
Speaker #3: So our view really is
Speaker #3: unchanged. Thank you.
[Analyst] (Barclays): Thank you. Maybe going back to some of Rick's comments about your jet production capabilities and really on the heels of consistent commentary across the industry about structural jet demand tailwinds, to what extent can you augment your jet yield further over time to capture this benefit?
Theresa Chen: Thank you. Maybe going back to some of Rick's comments about your jet production capabilities and really on the heels of consistent commentary across the industry about structural jet demand tailwinds, to what extent can you augment your jet yield further over time to capture this benefit?
Speaker #5: And maybe going back to some of Rick's comments about your jet production capabilities and really on the heels of consistent commentary across the industry, about structural jet demand tailwinds, to what extent can you augment your jet yield further over time to capture this benefit?
Speaker #2: Great question, Teresa. I will tell you that, first of all, we're enhancing our customer base out in the LA region. We're actually seeing significant demand signals from our Department of Energy, Department of War, and we are leaning into those as well.
Rick Hessling: Great question, Theresa. I will tell you that, first of all, we're enhancing our customer base out in the LA region. We're actually seeing significant demand signals from our Department of Energy, Department of Defense, and we are leaning into those as well. And as you look forward, we will continue to even lean into producing more jet. I won't give you specific volume increases, Theresa, just for competitive reasons, but it's safe to say we have very good upside there.
Rick Hessling: Great question, Theresa. I will tell you that, first of all, we're enhancing our customer base out in the LA region. We're actually seeing significant demand signals from our Department of Energy, Department of Defense, and we are leaning into those as well. And as you look forward, we will continue to even lean into producing more jet. I won't give you specific volume increases, Theresa, just for competitive reasons, but it's safe to say we have very good upside there.
Speaker #2: And as you look forward, we will continue to even lean into producing more jet. I won't give you specific volume increases, Teresa, just for competitive reasons, but it's safe to say we have very good upside there.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
[Analyst] (Barclays): Thank you.
Theresa Chen: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Teresa. Thank you,
Rick Hessling: Thank you, Theresa.
Rick Hessling: Thank you, Theresa.
Maryann Mannen: Thank you, Theresa.
Maryann Mannen: Thank you, Theresa.
Speaker #3: Teresa. Our next
Operator: Our next question comes from Jason Gabelman with TD Cowen. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jason Gabelman with TD Cowen. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: The question comes from Jason Gabelman with TD Cowen. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: open.
Speaker #2: Yeah, hey, thanks
[Analyst] (TD Cowen): Yeah. Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the CapEx guide, and I guess two questions around it. One, the 2025 total MPC CapEx came in above the initial expectations, and now that we're done with the year, I'm wondering what exactly drove that. It looked like some of the amount of the increase was on sustaining spend, so was there some work that needed to be done there, or was it around inflation and workforce costs, and have you seen that creep into the 2026 budget at all?
Jason Gabelman: Yeah. Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the CapEx guide, and I guess two questions around it. One, the 2025 total MPC CapEx came in above the initial expectations, and now that we're done with the year, I'm wondering what exactly drove that. It looked like some of the amount of the increase was on sustaining spend, so was there some work that needed to be done there, or was it around inflation and workforce costs, and have you seen that creep into the 2026 budget at all?
Speaker #2: for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the CAPEX guide. And I guess two questions around it. One, the 2025 total MPC CAPEX came in above the initial expectations, and now that we're done with the year, I'm wondering what exactly drove that.
Speaker #2: It looked like some of the amount of the increase was on sustaining spend, so was there some work that needed to be done there, or was it around inflation and workforce costs?
Speaker #2: And have you seen that creep into the 2026 budget at all?
Speaker #3: Hey, Jason, thanks for the question. So, you know, let's first talk about 2025. One of the projects that was not initially in our 2025 guide that we talked about today is our El Paso project, and we started spend in 2025.
Maryann Mannen: Hey, Jason, thanks for the question. So, you know, let's first talk about 2025. One of the projects that was not initially in our 2025 guide that we talked about today is our El Paso project, and we started spend in 2025. It'll complete in 2026. I think we talked about the benefits of that, particularly when you look at regional benefits there, so that project will come online in 2026. Also, now I think it's reasonable to say you could have had a little bit of inflation creep. Obviously, LAR was a critical project, as you know, that we completed in 2026, and that came up online in Q4, as Mike has alluded to. When we give our guidance for 2026, we take those things into consideration.
Maryann Mannen: Hey, Jason, thanks for the question. So, you know, let's first talk about 2025. One of the projects that was not initially in our 2025 guide that we talked about today is our El Paso project, and we started spend in 2025. It'll complete in 2026. I think we talked about the benefits of that, particularly when you look at regional benefits there, so that project will come online in 2026. Also, now I think it's reasonable to say you could have had a little bit of inflation creep. Obviously, LAR was a critical project, as you know, that we completed in 2026, and that came up online in Q4, as Mike has alluded to. When we give our guidance for 2026, we take those things into consideration.
Speaker #3: It'll complete in 2026. I think we talked about the benefits of that, particularly when you look at regional benefits there. So that project will come online in 2026.
Speaker #3: Also, you know, I think it’s reasonable to say you could have had a little bit of inflation creep. Obviously, LAR was a critical project, as you know, that we completed in 2026, and that should—and came up online in the fourth quarter, as Mike has alluded to.
Speaker #3: When we give our guidance for 2026, we take those things into consideration. So, to the extent that inflation estimates stay where we have anticipated, we don't necessarily see that there is an inflation uptick in 2026.
Maryann Mannen: So to the extent that inflation estimates stay where we have anticipated, we don't necessarily see that there is inflation uptick in 2026. And again, when we look at that, refining is down 20%, 2026 versus 2025, and we continue to say that 2027 and 2028 will be below that as well.
So to the extent that inflation estimates stay where we have anticipated, we don't necessarily see that there is inflation uptick in 2026. And again, when we look at that, refining is down 20%, 2026 versus 2025, and we continue to say that 2027 and 2028 will be below that as well.
Speaker #3: And again, when we look at that, refining is down 20% in 2026 versus 2025, and we continue to say that 2027 and 2028 will be below that as well.
Speaker #2: Great. Thanks for that color. And my follow-up, Maria, welcome to the team. We haven't met yet, but I look forward to working together. But I'm wondering if the team could talk about maybe elaborate.
[Analyst] (TD Cowen): Great. Thanks for that color. And my follow-up, Maria, welcome to the team. We haven't met yet, but I look forward to working together. But I'm wondering if the team can talk about, maybe elaborate a bit on some of the comments you made in your opening remarks about how her background is a nice fit and a nice add to the MPC suite. And then, maybe you could touch a bit about the board process to find a new CFO, because it did come as a bit of a surprise for investors. Thank you.
Jason Gabelman: Great. Thanks for that color. And my follow-up, Maria, welcome to the team. We haven't met yet, but I look forward to working together. But I'm wondering if the team can talk about, maybe elaborate a bit on some of the comments you made in your opening remarks about how her background is a nice fit and a nice add to the MPC suite. And then, maybe you could touch a bit about the board process to find a new CFO, because it did come as a bit of a surprise for investors. Thank you.
Speaker #2: I've been on some of the comments you made in your opening remarks about how her background is a nice fit and a nice add to the MPC C-suite.
Speaker #2: And then maybe you could touch a bit about the board process to find a new CFO, because it did come as a bit of a surprise for investors.
Speaker #2: Thank
Speaker #2: you. Hey,
Maryann Mannen: Hey, Jason. Thanks. So look, first and foremost, I'd say we come from a position of strength. And it is my belief that when we are looking at ensuring we deliver our objectives, both in the short term and the long term, that we have a set of complementary skills and capability and the absolute best leadership team to deliver those shareholder expectations that we continue to talk about. And first and foremost, that's the reason, you know, what any leadership team, and certainly this leadership team, would make a change. When I think about the things that we, MPC, have been trying to deliver, in fact, I should say, have delivered, when we think about cost competitiveness, we never stop that.
Maryann Mannen: Hey, Jason. Thanks. So look, first and foremost, I'd say we come from a position of strength. And it is my belief that when we are looking at ensuring we deliver our objectives, both in the short term and the long term, that we have a set of complementary skills and capability and the absolute best leadership team to deliver those shareholder expectations that we continue to talk about. And first and foremost, that's the reason, you know, what any leadership team, and certainly this leadership team, would make a change. When I think about the things that we, MPC, have been trying to deliver, in fact, I should say, have delivered, when we think about cost competitiveness, we never stop that.
Speaker #3: Jason, thanks. So, look, first and foremost, I'd say we come from a position of strength. And it is my belief that when we are looking at ensuring we deliver our objectives, both in the short term and the long term, that we have a set of complementary skills and capability, and the absolute best leadership team to deliver those shareholder expectations that we continue to talk about.
Speaker #3: And first and foremost, that's the reason why any leadership team—and certainly, this leadership team—would make a change. When I think about the things that we at MPC have been trying to deliver—in fact, I should say have delivered—when we think about cost competitiveness, we never stop that.
Speaker #3: When you look at Maria's background over the last 25 years in her career, that lean mindset in the work she's done there is a really nice dovetail to what we try to ensure—that we are the most competitive in every region where we operate.
Maryann Mannen: When you look at Maria's background over the last 25 years in her career, that lean mindset in the work she's done there is a really nice dovetail to what we try to ensure that we are the most competitive in every region where we operate. So her experience there is important. Strict capital discipline and capital deployment, I think, are another piece of Maria's background that fits so nicely into the things that are critically important for us to deliver shareholder value. When you make any change, as you think about our board, particularly on strategic decisions, is always a part of those decisions as well. So I hope that answers your question, Jason.
When you look at Maria's background over the last 25 years in her career, that lean mindset in the work she's done there is a really nice dovetail to what we try to ensure that we are the most competitive in every region where we operate. So her experience there is important. Strict capital discipline and capital deployment, I think, are another piece of Maria's background that fits so nicely into the things that are critically important for us to deliver shareholder value. When you make any change, as you think about our board, particularly on strategic decisions, is always a part of those decisions as well. So I hope that answers your question, Jason.
Speaker #3: So her experience there is important. Strict capital discipline and capital deployment, I think, are another piece of Maria's background that fits so nicely into the things that are critically important for us to deliver shareholder value.
Speaker #3: When you make any change, as you think about our board, particularly on strategic decisions, is always a part of those decisions as well. So I hope that answers your question, Jason.
Speaker #2: Yep, great.
[Analyst] (TD Cowen): Yep. Great. Thanks.
Jason Gabelman: Yep. Great. Thanks.
Speaker #2: Thanks. You're most
Maryann Mannen: You're most welcome.
Maryann Mannen: You're most welcome.
Speaker #1: Our next welcome. question comes from Philip Jungworth with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is
Operator: Our next question comes from Philip Jungwirth with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Philip Jungwirth with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: open. Yeah, thanks.
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): ... Yeah, thanks. Good morning. The West Coast had a really heavy year as far as turnaround goes, representing about 40% of total spend. At least in one key, West Coast turnaround is minimal. But as we see additional closures in California, just wondering, do you think the West Coast is set up to run pretty hard in 2026 and that you're past a lot of the downtime? And separately, just with the closures and outages more concentrated in NorCal, do you see much divergence between NorCal and SoCal product prices? And if so, can you take advantage of that?
Phillip Jungwirth: ... Yeah, thanks. Good morning. The West Coast had a really heavy year as far as turnaround goes, representing about 40% of total spend. At least in one key, West Coast turnaround is minimal. But as we see additional closures in California, just wondering, do you think the West Coast is set up to run pretty hard in 2026 and that you're past a lot of the downtime? And separately, just with the closures and outages more concentrated in NorCal, do you see much divergence between NorCal and SoCal product prices? And if so, can you take advantage of that?
Speaker #4: Good morning. The West Coast had a really heavy year as far as turnaround goes. Representing about 40% of total spend, at least in one key West Coast turnaround is minimal.
Speaker #4: But as we see additional closures in California, just wondering do you think the West Coast is set up to run pretty hard in 2026 and that you're past a lot of the downtime?
Speaker #4: And separately, just with the closures and outages, NorCal? more concentrated in Do you see much divergence between NorCal and SoCal product prices and if so, can you take advantage of
Speaker #4: that? Sure,
Mike Hennigan: Sure, Phil, I'll take a shot at that. You know, as we've talked about, the new project we just put in place in the Q4 of last year, really puts ourselves in a competitive position. One, we had an intertie project to actually decrease our energy costs. And the second piece of that was, we installed two new boilers, and we got rid of six old boilers. I think we're in a really good position to run hard in LA. The FCC Alky outage completed. We did a ton of reliability work during that, along with the new boilers from a steam system, and the intertie project also allows us to utilize our cogen plant to feed both sides, Wilmington and Carson.
Mike Hennigan: Sure, Phil, I'll take a shot at that. You know, as we've talked about, the new project we just put in place in the Q4 of last year, really puts ourselves in a competitive position. One, we had an intertie project to actually decrease our energy costs. And the second piece of that was, we installed two new boilers, and we got rid of six old boilers. I think we're in a really good position to run hard in LA. The FCC Alky outage completed. We did a ton of reliability work during that, along with the new boilers from a steam system, and the intertie project also allows us to utilize our cogen plant to feed both sides, Wilmington and Carson.
Speaker #2: Phil. I'll take a shot at that. You know, as we've talked about, the new project we just put in place and the fourth quarter of last year really puts ourselves in a competitive position.
Speaker #2: One, we had an intertidal project to actually decrease our energy costs, and the second piece of that was we installed two new boilers and we got rid of six old boilers.
Speaker #2: I think we're in a really good position to run hard in LA. The FCC ALKY outage completed; we did a ton of reliability work during that, along with the new boilers from a steam system.
Speaker #2: And the intertidal project also allows us to utilize our cogent plant to feed both sides, Wilmington and Carson. On the other side of your question, I'll turn you over to Rick for that.
Mike Hennigan: On the other side of your question, I'll turn you over to Rick for that.
On the other side of your question, I'll turn you over to Rick for that.
Speaker #5: Yeah, Phil. So we certainly see the closure as a significant most prognosis were tailwind for us. In fact, you know, that the closure of our competitor would not happen until March, April, and we're hearing now it's closing truly as we speak.
Rick Hessling: Yeah, Phil. So we certainly see the closure as a significant tailwind for us. In fact, you know, most prognosis were that the closure of our competitor would not happen until March, April, and we're hearing now it's closing truly as we speak. So we're seeing this as a nice tailwind. And as you know, we continue to have a competitive advantage out there with our size, our scale, our fully integrated logistics system, not only on the West Coast, but in the Pacific Northwest. And it's the Pacific Northwest, where maybe I want to dive in a little bit, because we have the ability, to your NorCal question, to take products from our PNW system and take advantage of the NorCal dislocation should they occur.
Rick Hessling: Yeah, Phil. So we certainly see the closure as a significant tailwind for us. In fact, you know, most prognosis were that the closure of our competitor would not happen until March, April, and we're hearing now it's closing truly as we speak. So we're seeing this as a nice tailwind. And as you know, we continue to have a competitive advantage out there with our size, our scale, our fully integrated logistics system, not only on the West Coast, but in the Pacific Northwest. And it's the Pacific Northwest, where maybe I want to dive in a little bit, because we have the ability, to your NorCal question, to take products from our PNW system and take advantage of the NorCal dislocation should they occur.
Speaker #5: So, we're seeing this as a nice tailwind. And as you know, we continue to have a competitive advantage out there with our size, our scale, our fully integrated logistics system—not only on the West Coast, but in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker #5: And it's the Pacific Northwest where maybe I want to dive in a little bit because we have the ability to your NorCal question to take products from our PNW system and take advantage of the NorCal dislocation should they occur.
Speaker #5: So we're in a great position, and we look forward to being the primary supplier in the LA region and in the Pacific Northwest. We see it as quite a competitive advantage versus the alternative, which is imports. And, you know, we always used to say, Phil, that the region was short one refinery.
Rick Hessling: So we're in a great position, and we look forward to being the primary supplier in, in the LA region and in the Pacific Northwest. We see it as quite a competitive advantage versus the alternative, which is imports. And, you know, we always used to say, Phil, that the region was short one refinery. Well, now it's short several refineries, so we view that as a significant positive tailwind. Hope that answers your question, Phil.
So we're in a great position, and we look forward to being the primary supplier in, in the LA region and in the Pacific Northwest. We see it as quite a competitive advantage versus the alternative, which is imports. And, you know, we always used to say, Phil, that the region was short one refinery. Well, now it's short several refineries, so we view that as a significant positive tailwind. Hope that answers your question, Phil.
Speaker #5: Well, now it's short several refineries. So we view that as a significant positive tailwind. Hope that answers your question, Phil.
Speaker #4: Yeah, no, that's helpful. And then on midstream, there's some interesting ethane market dynamics occurring this year. I mean, Permian takeaways increasing significantly. You're a big part of that.
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Yeah, no, that's helpful. And then on midstream, there's some interesting ethane market dynamics occurring this year. I mean, Permian takeaways increasing significantly. You're a big part of that. You had a couple export facilities come on in second half and through 2026, plus a new cracker startup in the Gulf Coast this year. So the question's more around, do you see these changes or how do you see these changes influencing ethane prices? And then also, just impacting your NGL plant production and bangle volumes?
Phillip Jungwirth: Yeah, no, that's helpful. And then on midstream, there's some interesting ethane market dynamics occurring this year. I mean, Permian takeaways increasing significantly. You're a big part of that. You had a couple export facilities come on in second half and through 2026, plus a new cracker startup in the Gulf Coast this year. So the question's more around, do you see these changes or how do you see these changes influencing ethane prices? And then also, just impacting your NGL plant production and bangle volumes?
Speaker #4: You had a couple of export facilities come on in the second half, and through '26, plus a new cracker startup in the Gulf Coast this year.
Speaker #4: So, the question's more around, do you see these changes, or how do you see these changes influencing ethane prices? And then also, just impacting your NGL plant production and bangle.
Speaker #4: volumes? Hey, Phil.
Maryann Mannen: Hey, Phil. Yeah, let me try to take that for you. So on, on MPLX, you know, as you know, we've been talking for quite some time now about our wellhead to water strategy. You've seen some of the investments that we've made, both organic and inorganic. In particular, when we talk about our US Gulf Coast fractionation and export dock, we believe strongly in the pool there, the, I should say, the demand pool, particularly when you look at the growth coming from LNG. Our project, fractionation one, comes online 2028, second one, 2029. Those fracs will be completely full. We just started our Secretariat online, brings 1.4 BCF into the region. And then we announced Secretariat two, which will take it up to about 1.7 when that investment is complete.
Maryann Mannen: Hey, Phil. Yeah, let me try to take that for you. So on, on MPLX, you know, as you know, we've been talking for quite some time now about our wellhead to water strategy. You've seen some of the investments that we've made, both organic and inorganic. In particular, when we talk about our US Gulf Coast fractionation and export dock, we believe strongly in the pool there, the, I should say, the demand pool, particularly when you look at the growth coming from LNG. Our project, fractionation one, comes online 2028, second one, 2029. Those fracs will be completely full. We just started our Secretariat online, brings 1.4 BCF into the region. And then we announced Secretariat two, which will take it up to about 1.7 when that investment is complete.
Speaker #3: Yeah, let me try to take that for you. So on MPLX, you know, as you know, we've been talking for quite some time now about our wellhead-to-water strategy.
Speaker #3: You've seen some of the investments that we've made, both organic and inorganic, in particular when we talk about our U.S. Gulf Coast fractionation and export dock.
Speaker #3: We believe strongly in the pool there—the, I should say, the demand pool—particularly when you look at the growth coming from LNG. Our Project Fractionation One comes online in 2028, the second one in 2029.
Speaker #3: Those fracs, we'll be completely full. We just started our Secretariat online, brings 1.4 Bcf into the region, and then we announced Secretariat Two, which will take it up to about 1.7 when that investment is complete.
Speaker #3: And then over the export dock, obviously, we see the demand for LPGs growing, and you can look at those—you look at those markets.
Maryann Mannen: And then over the export dock, obviously, we see the demand for LPGs growing, and you can look at those, look at those markets. So I think all of that points to strength over the long term in our position. You know, even where we look at the amount of capital that we're putting to work into the NGL and nat gas base, we talked about some of those earlier today. So I think that's all extremely positive, particularly when you look at the demand pool there, and a positive for MPC and MPLX. MPLX doesn't take on any of that commodity risk, and MPC will contract with MPLX, and that commercial opportunity is important for MPC going forward as well. I hope that helps.
And then over the export dock, obviously, we see the demand for LPGs growing, and you can look at those, look at those markets. So I think all of that points to strength over the long term in our position. You know, even where we look at the amount of capital that we're putting to work into the NGL and nat gas base, we talked about some of those earlier today. So I think that's all extremely positive, particularly when you look at the demand pool there, and a positive for MPC and MPLX. MPLX doesn't take on any of that commodity risk, and MPC will contract with MPLX, and that commercial opportunity is important for MPC going forward as well. I hope that helps.
Speaker #3: So, I think all of that points to strength over the long term in our position. You know, even when we look at the amount of capital that we're putting to work into the NGL and NatGas space—we talked about some of those earlier today.
Speaker #3: So I think that's all extremely positive, particularly when you look at the demand pool there. And it's a positive for MPC and MPLX. MPLX doesn't take on any of that commodity risk, and MPC will contract with MPLX, and that commercial opportunity is important for MPC going forward as well.
Speaker #3: I hope that helps.
Speaker #4: It does. Thank you.
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): It does. Thank you.
Phillip Jungwirth: It does. Thank you.
Speaker #3: You're
Speaker #3: welcome. Our
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome.
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome.
Speaker #1: Next question comes from Matthew Blair with TPH & Co. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Matthew Blair with TPH and Co. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Matthew Blair with TPH and Co. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: open. Great.
Speaker #5: Thanks, and good morning. If we could circle back to the Venezuela discussion, you mentioned you're buying two cargos in the first quarter here. It looks like you're sour, guys, to Q1.
Mike Hennigan: Great, thanks, and good morning. If we could circle back to the Venezuela discussion, you mentioned you're buying two cargoes in the first quarter here. It looks like your sour guide for Q1; is it 50% versus the 47% in Q4? So is the takeaway that your whole system is now moving heavier and that you're pushing out mostly lights with these new Venezuelan barrels?
Matthew Blair: Great, thanks, and good morning. If we could circle back to the Venezuela discussion, you mentioned you're buying two cargoes in the first quarter here. It looks like your sour guide for Q1; is it 50% versus the 47% in Q4? So is the takeaway that your whole system is now moving heavier and that you're pushing out mostly lights with these new Venezuelan barrels?
Speaker #5: Is it 50% versus the 47% in Q4? So as a takeaway, your whole system is now moving heavier, and you’re pushing out mostly lights with these new Venezuelan barrels?
Speaker #2: Hi, Matthew. Yes, this is Rick. Yeah, that's the guidance. We are leaning into these differentials widening, and as Maryann stated earlier, you know, every day we're looking to optimize.
Rick Hessling: Hi, Matthew. Yes, this is Rick. Yeah, that's the guidance. We are leaning into these differentials widening, and as Maryann stated earlier, you know, every day we're looking to optimize, and right now, the signals are pointing towards a heavy, more sour slate, and so we're leaning into it significantly.
Rick Hessling: Hi, Matthew. Yes, this is Rick. Yeah, that's the guidance. We are leaning into these differentials widening, and as Maryann stated earlier, you know, every day we're looking to optimize, and right now, the signals are pointing towards a heavy, more sour slate, and so we're leaning into it significantly.
Speaker #2: And right now the signals are pointing towards a heavier, more sour slate, and so we're leaning into it.
Speaker #2: significantly. Sounds good.
[Analyst] (TPH): ... Sounds good. And then, Maryann, I heard you mention Dos Bocas. It looks like run rates have improved quite a bit recently at the refinery, which is reducing Mexico's, you know, net product imports. Is this impacting MPC at all, or are you having to find new markets for your product exports? And in general, could you talk about the trends for MPC's product exports in 2025 versus 2024? Thanks.
Matthew Blair: ... Sounds good. And then, Maryann, I heard you mention Dos Bocas. It looks like run rates have improved quite a bit recently at the refinery, which is reducing Mexico's, you know, net product imports. Is this impacting MPC at all, or are you having to find new markets for your product exports? And in general, could you talk about the trends for MPC's product exports in 2025 versus 2024? Thanks.
Speaker #5: And then, Maryann, I heard you mention Dos Bocas. It looks like run rates have improved quite a bit recently at the refinery, which is reducing Mexico's net product imports.
Speaker #5: Is this impacting MPC at all? Are you having to find new markets for your product exports? And in general, could you talk about the trends for MPC's product exports in 2025 versus 2024?
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks for the
Maryann Mannen: Yeah, thanks for the question. So, you know, as I mentioned, you know, we run roughly, and we just talked about it, roughly a 50% sour slate, WCS being one of them. We run the ASCII crudes and ANS as well. Maya, for us, as you can see, is typically a very small portion of that sour basket. So as an overall impact to us, really not a concern for us. I think your assessment, frankly, on Dos Bocas is accurate. I think as that reliability has improved, I think there is less Maya available as they are consuming, obviously consuming that. But I'm going to pass it to Rick, because I'm sure Rick will want to add a little more color on some of the specifics for us.
Maryann Mannen: Yeah, thanks for the question. So, you know, as I mentioned, you know, we run roughly, and we just talked about it, roughly a 50% sour slate, WCS being one of them. We run the ASCII crudes and ANS as well. Maya, for us, as you can see, is typically a very small portion of that sour basket. So as an overall impact to us, really not a concern for us. I think your assessment, frankly, on Dos Bocas is accurate. I think as that reliability has improved, I think there is less Maya available as they are consuming, obviously consuming that. But I'm going to pass it to Rick, because I'm sure Rick will want to add a little more color on some of the specifics for us.
Speaker #3: So, you know, as I mentioned, we run roughly— and we just talked about it— roughly a 50% sour slate, WCS being one of them.
Speaker #3: We run the ASCII crudes and ANS as well. Maya, for us, as you can see, is typically a very small portion of that sour basket.
Speaker #3: So as an overall impact to us, really not a concern for us. I think your assessment, frankly, on Dos Bocas is accurate. I think as that reliability has improved, there is less Maya available as they are obviously consuming that.
Speaker #3: But I'm going to pass it to Rick, because I'm sure Rick will want to add a little more color on some of the specifics.
Speaker #3: So, Matthew, what I would add from
Rick Hessling: So Matthew, what I would add from an export perspective, so we are taking less to Mexico. However, we're seeing really good demand from other LatAm countries, specifically Brazil, so we are not seeing a falloff in exports at all. In fact, we had a really strong Q4, and we're having a really good start to the Q1. So, while we are seeing less from Mexico per se, we're seeing others pick up the slack, and to more than offset that decline.
Rick Hessling: So Matthew, what I would add from an export perspective, so we are taking less to Mexico. However, we're seeing really good demand from other LatAm countries, specifically Brazil, so we are not seeing a falloff in exports at all. In fact, we had a really strong Q4, and we're having a really good start to the Q1. So, while we are seeing less from Mexico per se, we're seeing others pick up the slack, and to more than offset that decline.
Speaker #2: From an export perspective, we are taking less to Mexico. However, we're seeing really good demand from other LADAM countries, specifically Brazil. So we are not seeing a falloff in exports at all.
Speaker #2: In fact, we had a really strong fourth quarter, and we're having a really good start to the first quarter. So, while we are seeing less from Mexico per se, we're seeing others pick up the slack to more than offset that.
Speaker #2: decline. Great.
Speaker #5: Thanks for
[Analyst] (TPH): Great. Thanks for your comments.
Matthew Blair: Great. Thanks for your comments.
Speaker #3: You're welcome. Thank
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome. Thank you.
Maryann Mannen: You're welcome. Thank you.
Speaker #3: You. Our final question comes from
John Quaid: Our final question comes from Conor Fitzpatrick with BofA. Your line is open.
Our final question comes from Conor Fitzpatrick with BofA. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: Connor Fitzpatrick with B of A. Your line is open.
Speaker #1: open. Hi, everybody.
[Analyst] (BofA): Hi, everybody. Thank you for taking the question. The Enbridge mainline pipeline has seen some apportionment and pipe volume rationing rising a bit lately. Are Canadian pipeline bottlenecks affecting Canadian crude pricing or realized crude costs for the R&M segment at all?
Conor Fitzpatrick: Hi, everybody. Thank you for taking the question. The Enbridge mainline pipeline has seen some apportionment and pipe volume rationing rising a bit lately. Are Canadian pipeline bottlenecks affecting Canadian crude pricing or realized crude costs for the R&M segment at all?
Speaker #6: Thank you for taking the question. The Enbridge Mainline pipeline has seen some apportionment and pipe volume rationing rising a bit lately. Are Canadian pipeline bottlenecks affecting Canadian crude pricing or realized crude costs for the R&M segment at...
Speaker #6: all? Yeah, hi, Connor.
Rick Hessling: Yeah. Hi, Conor, it's Rick. Absolutely, they are. This is a tailwind for us. In fact, it's encouraging to see and hear people following the apportionment because it used to get followed a lot, and I think it's kind of fallen out of common knowledge for people to track, but it's quite important, so I commend you for following it. I'll start there. I will tell you this, in January, even before the Venezuelan announcements and headlines, you started to see the heavy and the Canadian differential start to widen, and a couple of reasons they were widening. One, production's pretty darn strong in Canada, but two, it's apportionment, your exact point. So when you think of apportionment, it backs in inventory into Canada and forces barrels to clear to more expensive routes.
Rick Hessling: Yeah. Hi, Conor, it's Rick. Absolutely, they are. This is a tailwind for us. In fact, it's encouraging to see and hear people following the apportionment because it used to get followed a lot, and I think it's kind of fallen out of common knowledge for people to track, but it's quite important, so I commend you for following it. I'll start there. I will tell you this, in January, even before the Venezuelan announcements and headlines, you started to see the heavy and the Canadian differential start to widen, and a couple of reasons they were widening. One, production's pretty darn strong in Canada, but two, it's apportionment, your exact point. So when you think of apportionment, it backs in inventory into Canada and forces barrels to clear to more expensive routes.
Speaker #2: It's Rick. Absolutely, they are. This is a tailwind for us. In fact, it's encouraging to see and hear people following the apportionment, because it used to get followed a lot, and I think it's kind of fallen out of common knowledge for people to track, but it's quite important.
Speaker #2: So I commend you for following it. I'll start there. I will tell you this: in January, even before the Venezuelan announcements and headlines, you started to see the heavy in the Canadian differential start to widen.
Speaker #2: And a couple of reasons they were widening. One, production's pretty darn strong in Canada, but two, it's apportionment—your exact point. So when you think of apportionment, it backs in inventory into Canada and forces barrels to clear to more expensive routes.
Speaker #2: So that in and of itself puts pressure on the differential, which we've certainly seen, as I said before, the VENS announcement and now even after.
Rick Hessling: So that, in and of itself, puts pressure on the differential, which we've certainly seen, as I said, before the Venn's announcement and now even after. So, significant tailwind and one that I would encourage you to keep watching. Thank you for the question.
So that, in and of itself, puts pressure on the differential, which we've certainly seen, as I said, before the Venn's announcement and now even after. So, significant tailwind and one that I would encourage you to keep watching. Thank you for the question.
Speaker #2: So, significant tailwind and one that I would encourage you to keep watching. Thank you for the question.
Speaker #6: Okay. Okay. Thanks. That's all I have.
[Analyst] (BofA): Okay. Okay, thanks. That's all I had.
Conor Fitzpatrick: Okay. Okay, thanks. That's all I had.
Speaker #6: had. Thank
Maryann Mannen: Thank you.
Maryann Mannen: Thank you.
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