Q4 2025 Senseonics Holdings Inc Earnings Call

March 2, 2026

Speaker #2: Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Senseonics Q4 and full year 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions.

Operator: Good day, everyone. Welcome to Senseonics Q4 and full year 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions during the question and answer session. Please note today's call will be recorded. I'll be standing by should you need any assistance. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Jeremy Feffer from LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: During the question-and-answer session, please note today's call will be recorded and I'll be standing by should you need any assistance. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Jeremy Feffer, from LifeSci Advisors.

Speaker #2: Please go ahead. Thank you. This is Jeremy Feffer from LifeSci Advisors. Before we begin today, let me remind you that the company's remarks include forward-looking statements.

Jeremy Feffer: Thank you. This is Jeremy Feffer from LifeSci Advisors. Before we begin today, let me remind you that the company's remarks include forward-looking statements. These statements reflect management's expectations about future events, operating plans, regulatory matters, product enhancements, company performance, and other matters, and speak only as of the date hereof. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties. A list of the factors that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied by any of these forward-looking statements is detailed under Risk Factors and elsewhere in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended 31 December 2025, and our 10-Q's and our other reports filed with the SEC.

Speaker #2: These statements reflect management's expectations about future events, operating plans, regulatory matters, product enhancements, company performance, and other matters, and speak only as of the date hereof.

Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties. A list of the factors that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied by any of these forward-looking statements is detailed under Risk Factors and elsewhere in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2025, and our 10-Qs and our other reports filed with the SEC.

Speaker #2: These documents are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.senseonics.com. We undertake no obligation to update publicly or revise these forward-looking statements for any reason except as required by law.

Jeremy Feffer: These documents are available on the investor relations section of our website at www.senseonics.com. We undertake no obligation to update publicly or revise these forward-looking statements for any reason except as required by law. Joining me today from Senseonics are Tim Goodnow, President and Chief Executive Officer, Rick Sullivan, Chief Financial Officer, and Brian Hanson, Chief Commercial Officer. Now, I'll turn the call over to Tim.

Jeremy Feffer: These documents are available on the investor relations section of our website at www.senseonics.com. We undertake no obligation to update publicly or revise these forward-looking statements for any reason except as required by law. Joining me today from Senseonics are Tim Goodnow, President and Chief Executive Officer, Rick Sullivan, Chief Financial Officer, and Brian Hansen, Chief Commercial Officer. Now, I'll turn the call over to Tim.

Speaker #2: Joining me today from Senseonics are Tim Goodnow, President and Chief Executive Officer; Rick Sullivan, Chief Financial Officer; and Brian Hansen, Chief Commercial Officer. And now I'll turn the call over to Tim.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Jeremy. And I appreciate everyone joining us today. Looking back over 2025, it's hard to believe how much has changed at Senseonics. This time last year, Eversense 365 had only been available in the United States for a few months.

Tim Goodnow: Thanks, Jeremy, and appreciate everyone joining us today. Looking back over 2025, it's hard to believe how much has changed at Senseonics. This time last year, Eversense 365 had only been available in the United States for a few months, and we were partnered with Ascensia Diabetes Care for all commercialization and sales operations globally, and we were conducting feasibility studies for our Gemini product. On the financial front, our gross margins were hovering around 25%, annual revenue was less than $23 million, and we were in the process of executing a successful cost savings initiative to lower operating expenses. Today, just one year later, Senseonics is a fully integrated developer, manufacturer, and once again, seller of Eversense.

Speaker #3: And we were partnered with the Sensia Diabetes Care for all commercialization and sales operations globally. And we were conducting feasibility studies for our Gemini product.

Speaker #3: On the financial front, our gross margins were hovering around 25%. Annual revenue was less than $23 million. And we were in the process of executing a successful cost savings initiative to lower operating expenses.

Speaker #3: Today, just one year later, Senseonics is a fully integrated developer, manufacturer, and once again seller of EverSense. We have an exceptional sales and marketing team led by Brian Hansen, our new Chief Commercial Officer.

Tim Goodnow: We have an exceptional sales and marketing team led by Brian Hansen, our new Chief Commercial Officer, and Eversense 365 is now approved in both the United States and in the European Union. In 2025, we achieved full year revenue of over $35 million, growing approximately 60% year-over-year. Our year-long sensor, our continued partnership with healthcare providers, and our enhanced direct-to-consumer marketing strategy has delivered tangible results with a doubling of patients on Eversense in the US, with new patient starts growing 103%. We have already accomplished margin improvements to greater than 50% to finish the year. 2025 was certainly a year of transformation at Senseonics. The strategic decisions we made last year established a strong foundation for growth in 2026 and beyond.

Speaker #3: And ever since 365 is now approved in both the United States and in the European Union. In 2025, we achieved full-year revenue of over $35 million growing approximately 60% year over year.

Speaker #3: Our year-long sensor, our continued partnership with healthcare providers, and our enhanced direct-to-consumer marketing strategy have delivered tangible results, with a doubling of patients on Eversense in the US, and new patient starts growing 103%.

Speaker #3: And we have already accomplished margin improvements to greater than 50% to finish the year. 2025 was certainly a year of transformation at Senseonics. The strategic decisions we made last year, established a strong foundation for growth in 2026 and beyond.

Speaker #3: The biggest decision we made in 2025 was to transition all commercial activities from Ascensia Diabetes Care back to Senseonics, removing a layer of complexity from our operations and providing us with a new level of control and agility to execute on our focus strategy.

Tim Goodnow: The biggest decision we made in 2025 was to transition all commercial activities from Ascensia Diabetes Care back to Senseonics, removing a layer of complexity from our operations and providing us with a new level of control and agility to execute on our focus strategy. By bringing the sales, customer service, marketing, and sales operations functions in-house, we both eliminate revenue sharing with Ascensia and have the opportunity to respond quickly to meet the needs of people with diabetes. This change also brings an impressive team of commercial professionals to Senseonics. This end-to-end responsibility for Eversense 365 unlocks operational efficiency, enhances our financial profile, enables more integration between our corporate objectives and commercial results. Additionally, this change simplifies revenue recognition and provides critical insights into the effectiveness of our DTC efforts.

Speaker #3: By bringing the sales, customer service, marketing, and sales operations functions in-house, we both eliminate revenue sharing with the Sensia and have the opportunity to respond quickly to the meet-the-needs of people with diabetes.

Speaker #3: This change also brings an impressive team of commercial professionals to Senseonics. This end-to-end responsibility for Eversense 365 unlocks operational efficiency, enhances our financial profile, and enables more integration between our corporate objectives and commercial results.

Speaker #3: Additionally, this change simplifies revenue recognition and provides critical insights into the effectiveness of our DTC efforts. PhD remains the meaningful shareholder in Senseonics, and will continue to support the European commercialization of EverSense and under transition service agreements, through the anticipated closing in Europe in the second quarter, and establishment of our own in-country operations.

Tim Goodnow: PHC remains the meaningful shareholder in Senseonics and will continue to support the European commercialization of Eversense and under transition service agreements through the anticipated closing in Europe in Q2 and establishment of our own in-country operations. To implement this commercial evolution and drive long-term revenue growth, Brian Hansen transitioned to Senseonics and brought with him his complete leadership and sales force team. Brian was formerly the head of Ascensia's CGM division, and prior to that, the Chief Commercial Officer for Tandem, bringing a tremendous amount of experience and expertise from his accomplished career in diabetes care. In just a few minutes, I'll turn the call over to Brian so that he can give you a first-hand account of what has been a smooth and successful commercial transition. He'll also give his thoughts on our growth trajectory, which he will be instrumental in driving.

Speaker #3: To implement this commercial evolution and drive long-term revenue growth, Brian Hansen transitioned to Senseonics and brought with him his complete leadership and sales force team.

Speaker #3: Brian was formerly the head of a Sensia CGM division, and prior to that, the Chief Commercial Officer for Tandem. He brings a tremendous amount of experience and expertise from his accomplished career in diabetes care.

Speaker #3: In just a few minutes, I'll turn the call over to Brian so that he can give you a firsthand account of what has been a smooth and successful commercial transition.

Speaker #3: He'll also give his thoughts on our growth trajectory, which he will be instrumental in driving. Excitedly, our integration with SQL's Twist Automated Insulin Delivery System was another significant milestone in 2025.

Tim Goodnow: Excitedly, our integration with Sequel's twiist automated insulin delivery system was another significant milestone in 2025, not just for us, but for the diabetes community at large. Patients utilizing the twiist insulin pump can now use Eversense 365 to send glucose readings seamlessly to their pump for an entire year. This means eliminating a CGM change every 10 to 15 days and providing our type one patients with reliable and accurate glucose monitoring 365 days at a time. Our collaboration with Sequel combines the world's most sophisticated glucose sensing, algorithm control, and pumping technologies, and is just the first of many collaborations we hope to establish with pump partners. Finally, in 2025, we made improvements in our financials, raised capital from institutional investors and strategic partners, executed a reverse stock split, and began trading on the Nasdaq exchange.

Speaker #3: Not just for us, but for the diabetes community at large. Patients utilizing the Twist insulin pump can now use EverSense 365 to send glucose readings seamlessly to their pump for an entire year.

Speaker #3: This means eliminating a CGM change every 10 to 15 days and providing our type 1 patients with reliable and accurate glucose monitoring 365 days at a time.

Speaker #3: Our collaboration with SQL combines the world's most sophisticated glucose sensing, algorithm control, and pumping technologies and is just the first of many collaborations we hope to establish with pump partners.

Speaker #3: Finally, in 2025, we made improvements in our financials, raised capital from institutional investors, and strategic partners, executed a reverse stock split, and began trading on the NASDAQ exchange.

Speaker #3: Similar to our other transformation initiatives, we believe these accomplishments set Senseonics up for long-term growth and disciplined financial execution. Moving on to the leading indicators for 2026.

Tim Goodnow: Similar to our other transformation initiatives, we believe these accomplishments set Senseonics up for long-term growth and disciplined financial execution. Moving on to the leading indicators for 2026, I'll start with a quick reminder that our business is seasonal. The Q4 is typically our strongest quarter due to insurance deductibles being met. Further, a higher number of existing customers are available for reorders of Eversense in the quarter because the US commercial launch of Eversense 365 took place in the Q4 of 2024. Early adopters translate into annual reorders beginning in this Q4. Through this, we saw meaningful quarter-over-quarter growth for the entirety of 2025, including growth in leads, conversions, new patient starts, and prescribers of our sensor for the first time.

Speaker #3: I'll start with a quick reminder that our business is seasonal. The fourth quarter is typically our strongest quarter due to insurance deductibles being met.

Speaker #3: Further, a higher number of existing customers are available for reorders of EverSense in the quarter because the U.S. commercial launch of EverSense 365 took place in the fourth quarter of 2024.

Speaker #3: So early adopters translate into annual reorders beginning in this fourth quarter. Through this, we saw meaningful quarter-over-quarter growth for the entirety of 2025, including growth in leads, conversions, new patient starts, and prescribers of our sensor for the first time.

Speaker #3: We expect this momentum to continue in ’26, buoyed by our growth initiatives and investments, the Twist integration, and expansion of EverSense into new markets.

Tim Goodnow: We expect this momentum to continue in 2026, buoyed by our growth initiatives and investments, the twiist integration, and expansion of Eversense into new markets. In January, we received CE marking for Eversense 365, we expect to launch 1 global product, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Sweden in the coming months with our own dedicated European sales force. We recognize that patients and providers in Europe have been waiting for us to deliver on our promise of 1 year, 1 CGM in their markets, we now have the approval. We anticipate a similar uptake in interest in new patients on Eversense as we had in the US. On the product pipeline front, we continue to advance development of both the Gemini and Freedom products. We expect to complete the Gemini pivotal trials before the end of the year, with the launch expected to follow in 2027.

Speaker #3: In January, we received CE marking for EverSense 365, and we expect to launch one global product, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Sweden in the coming months, where their own dedicated European sales force.

Speaker #3: We recognize that patients and providers in Europe have been waiting for us to deliver on our promise of one year, one CGM, in their markets, and we now have the approval.

Speaker #3: We anticipate a similar uptake in interest and new patients on EverSense as we had in the United States. On the product pipeline front, we continue to advance development of both the Gemini and Freedom products.

Speaker #3: We expect to complete the Gemini pivotal trials before the end of the year, with the launch expected to follow in 2027. Gemini improves on the capabilities of Eversense 365, with an integrated one-year battery and flash glucose monitoring capabilities without a transmitter.

Tim Goodnow: Gemini improves on the capabilities of Eversense 365 with an integrated 1-year battery and Flash Glucose Monitoring capabilities without a transmitter. Freedom is close behind with launch planned for 2028. The Freedom system further improves on Gemini, incorporating direct wireless communication between the sensor and the patient's phone. I'm confident that our decisions on execution in 2025 will form the foundation of our 2026 growth. We have the right team, the right financial structure, and the world's first and only year-long CGM to improve and simplify the lives of millions of patients worldwide. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Brian.

Speaker #3: And Freedom is close behind, with launch planned for 2028. The Freedom system further improves on Gemini, incorporating direct wireless communication between the sensor and the patient's phone.

Speaker #3: I'm confident that our decisions and execution in 2025 will form the foundation of our 2026 growth. We have the right team, the right financial structure, and the world's first and only year-long CGM to improve and simplify the lives of millions of patients worldwide.

Speaker #3: And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Brian.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Tim, and hello to everybody on today's call. I would like to begin by expressing my excitement to be part of Senseonics and my gratitude to the US commercial team that has transitioned to Senseonics from Asensia.

Brian Hansen: Thanks, Tim. Hello to everybody on today's call. I would like to begin by expressing my excitement to be part of Senseonics, and my gratitude to the US commercial team that has transitioned to Senseonics from Ascensia. Here in the United States, the move was fairly straightforward, and we were very happy to see nearly 100% of the employees transition with us. We were also able to recognize a few synergies in the move, as well as shifting several roles around to better align our teams for success in the new year. The same effort is underway in Europe, where I expect the same result, and we have the launch of Eversense 365 right around the corner. More on that later. As Tim mentioned, the strategic decisions taken in 2025 sets us up for continued success in 2026 and beyond.

Speaker #4: Here in the United States, the move was fairly straightforward, and we were very happy to see nearly 100% of the employees transition with us.

Speaker #4: We were also able to recognize a few synergies in the move, as well as shifting several roles around to better align our teams for success in the new year.

Speaker #4: The same effort is underway in Europe, where I expect the same result, and we have the launch of Eversense 365 right around the corner.

Speaker #4: More on that later. As Tim mentioned, the strategic decisions taken in 2025 set us up for continued success in 2026 and beyond. Our direct consumer spend was a big growth driver for us in 2025, and we will continue to invest heavily in that channel this year.

Brian Hansen: Our direct consumer spend was a big growth driver for us in 2025, and we will continue to invest heavily in that channel this year. It was clear with our revamped DTC campaign and enhanced spend that we could drive significant lead volume and leads drive awareness, patient interest, prescriptions, and ultimately new insertions translating into top-line revenue. There were multiple learnings from our work in 2025. Last year's back-end loaded DTC spend showed there is a sweet spot of investment for us. While we plan to spend a similar amount this year, roughly $12 to $15 million, we will spend it a little more evenly over the entire year, building into Q3 and Q4. This should allow us to be more efficient with our resources, targeting higher quality opportunities, a higher close rate, and a lower cost per lead.

Speaker #4: It was clear with our revamped DTC campaign and enhanced spend that we could drive significant lead volume, and leads drive awareness, patient interest, prescriptions, and ultimately new insertions translating into top-line revenue.

Speaker #4: There were multiple learnings from our work in 2025. Last year's backend loaded DTC spend showed there is a sweet spot of investment for us.

Speaker #4: While we plan to spend a similar amount this year, roughly $12 to $15 million, we will spend it a little more evenly over the entire year, building into the third and fourth quarters.

Speaker #4: This should allow us to be more efficient with our resources, targeting higher quality opportunities, a higher close rate, and a lower cost per lead.

Speaker #4: Another important initiative for 2026 is patient retention. While we are early in the renewals from our first patients on the EverSense 365 sensor, we are happy to report that patient retention is in line with our expectations.

Brian Hansen: Another important initiative for 2026 is patient retention. While we are early in the renewals from our first patients on the Eversense 365 sensor, we are happy to report that patient retention is in line with our expectations. This is, and will continue to become, a more meaningful part of our business going forward. Programs put in place in 2025, as well as allocating resources to refine and enhance the patient journey with our product and our company, have positioned us nicely for the upcoming year. I would also like to express my gratitude to the legacy employees of Senseonics that have built such an amazing product. Not only does it last a full year as expected, its performance is unsurpassed.

Speaker #4: This is and will continue to become a more meaningful part of our business going forward. Programs put in place in 2025, as well as allocating resources to refine and enhance the patient journey with our product and our company, have positioned us nicely for the upcoming year.

Speaker #4: I would also like to express my gratitude to the legacy employees at Senseonics that have built such an amazing product. Not only does it last a full year as expected, its performance is unsurpassed.

Speaker #4: We've also been working diligently to support the SQL Twist, EverSense 365 rollout, and expect to see an increase in the Type 1 patients we serve as a result.

Brian Hansen: We've also been working diligently to support the Sequel twiist Eversense 365 rollout and expect to see an increase in the Type 1 patients we serve as a result. As Tim mentioned, this collaboration enables us to combine two of the world's leading diabetes technologies to simplify life for patients requiring insulin. Anecdotally, I can tell you that from the team being at the Sequel annual sales meeting held earlier this month, we are both aligned and excited. Sequel has a large commercial presence in the US. I can confidently say that both teams have fully bought into this partnership. Now with Eversense 365 compatibility, Sequel is able to offer customers choice in selecting the continuous glucose monitor that works best for them. As a company, we more than doubled the number of Eversense users in the US from 2024 to 2025.

Speaker #4: As Tim mentioned, this collaboration enables us to combine two of the world's leading diabetes technologies to simplify life for patients requiring insulin. Anecdotally, I can tell you that from the team being at the SQL annual sales meeting held earlier this month, we are both aligned and excited.

Speaker #4: SQL has a large commercial presence in the United States, and I can confidently say that both teams have fully bought into this partnership. And now, with EverSense 365 compatibility, SQL is able to offer customers choice in selecting the continuous glucose monitor that works best for them.

Speaker #4: As a company, we more than doubled the number of EverSense users in the United States from 2024 to 2025, and for this year, our goal is to continue that momentum and double our patient base once again.

Brian Hansen: For this year, our goal is to continue that momentum and double our patient base once again. We believe that we can accomplish this through successful renewal of our existing customers, driving new patient starts in the US and abroad, and having pump integration, which patients have requested for years. Acknowledging we are only a few weeks into the general availability of the combined offering, the results have exceeded my expectations. We have detailed the success of our DTC campaign from last year, so let's turn to our healthcare provider channel that continues to grow as well. The number of providers actively prescribing Eversense grew more than 80% year-over-year, reflecting broadening awareness and confidence in the 365-day system. Access to the diabetes centers continues to grow, and we look forward to working closely with the Sequel commercial team to expand our combined reach.

Speaker #4: We believe that we can accomplish this through successful renewal of our existing customers, driving new patient starts in the U.S. and abroad, and having pump integration, which patients have requested for years.

Speaker #4: Acknowledging we are only a few weeks into the general availability of the combined offering, the results have exceeded my expectations. We have detailed the success of our DTC campaign from last year, so let's turn to our healthcare provider channel that continues to grow as well.

Speaker #4: The number of providers actively prescribing EverSense grew more than 80% year over year, reflecting broadening awareness and confidence in the 365-day system. Access to the diabetes centers continues to grow, and we look forward to working closely with the SQL commercial team to expand our combined reach.

Speaker #4: We also saw continued expansion of the EON Care Group, our in-house inserter network. We finished the year with approximately 60 providers performing nearly a quarter of all U.S. Eversense insertions.

Brian Hansen: We also saw continued expansion of the Eon Care Group, our in-house inserter network. We finished the year with approximately 60 providers performing nearly a quarter of all US Eversense insertions. We will continue to add to this team in 2026, planning to end the year with approximately 100 providers, driving an even greater percentage of the US procedures. Turning to the European launch and transition for a moment, we are in the final stage of completing our European arrangements with Ascensia. Both companies' teams are collaborating well to smoothly transition the European CGM business. Our team is working to establish the full organization we need in Europe, and we will utilize transition agreements with Ascensia in countries where we are currently building out our capabilities. Overall, we made great progress with the transition since the announcement in early September.

Speaker #4: We will continue to add to this team in 2026, planning to end the year with approximately 100 providers driving an even greater percentage of the US procedures.

Speaker #4: Turning to the European launch and transition for a moment, we are in the final stage of completing our European arrangements with Ascensia, and both companies' teams are collaborating well to smoothly transition the European CGM business.

Speaker #4: Our team is working to establish the full organization we need in Europe, and we will utilize transition agreements with Asensia in countries where we are currently building out our capabilities.

Speaker #4: Overall, we made great progress with the transition since the announcement in early September. Coming off our national sales meeting to unveil the new Senseonics, the team is energized and off to a good start to the year.

Brian Hansen: Coming off our national sales meeting to unveil the new Senseonics, the team is energized and off to a good start to the year. This is a testament to our employees' hard work in getting here, their dedication, their belief in the product, as well as the potential future growth ahead of us. I'll now turn the call over to Rick to walk through the numbers.

Speaker #4: This is a testament to our employees' hard work in getting here, their dedication, their belief in the product, as well as the potential future growth ahead of us.

Speaker #4: I'll now turn the call over to Rick to walk through the numbers.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Brian, and thanks to everyone joining us this afternoon. Starting with the quarterly results. In the fourth quarter of 2025, net revenue grew 72% to 14.3 million, compared to 8.3 million in the prior year period on the continued strength of top-line EverSense 365 revenue.

Rick Sullivan: Thanks, Brian. Thanks to everyone joining us this afternoon. Starting with the quarterly results. In Q4 of 2025, net revenue grew 72% to $14.3 million, compared to $8.3 million in the prior year period on the continued strength of top-line Eversense 365 revenue. US revenue for Q4 was $12.1 million, and revenue outside the US was $2.2 million. Importantly, in Q4 of 2025, we continued to recognize revenue through the collaboration agreement with Ascensia. We anticipate recognizing 100% of revenues going forward. We expect a similar channel mix going through our two primary sales channels in the US, direct shipments to DME distributors, and through bundled payment of the procedure and product, primarily through our consignment program.

Speaker #1: US revenue for the fourth quarter was $12.1 million, and revenue outside the US was $2.2 million. Importantly, in Q4 of 2025, we continue to recognize revenue through the collaboration agreement with Asensia.

Speaker #1: We anticipate recognizing 100% of revenues going forward. We expect a similar channel mix going through our two primary sales channels in the US: direct shipments to DME distributors, and through bundled payment of the procedure and product, primarily through our consignment program.

Speaker #1: Outside the US, we will sell both through tender agreements and to distributors, depending on the region. In Q4 2025, gross profit was 7.7 million, an increase of 3.7 million from the prior year period.

Rick Sullivan: Outside the US, we will sell both through tender agreements and to distributors, depending on the region. In Q4 2025, gross profit was $7.7 million, an increase of $3.7 million from the prior year period. This increase in gross profit was primarily driven by a full year of sales of Eversense 365, with more of our business going through our consignment sales channel, where we recognize 100% of the revenue and recorded a sales commission expense to Ascensia based on the current year's revenue sharing percentage. Research and development expenses in Q4 2025 were $8.8 million, a decrease of $0.6 million compared to the prior year period. The decrease was primarily due to the completion of the Eversense 365 system clinical trials and development efforts, as well as a reduction in headcount.

Speaker #1: This increase in gross profit was primarily driven by a full year of sales of EverSense 365, with more of our business going through our consignment sales channel where we recognize 100% of the revenue.

Speaker #1: And recorded a sales commission expense to Asensia based on the current year's revenue-sharing percentage. Research and development expenses in Q4 2025 were $8.8 million, a decrease of $0.6 million compared to the prior-year period.

Speaker #1: The decrease was primarily due to the completion of the EverSense 365 system clinical trials and development efforts, as well as a reduction in headcount.

Speaker #1: Fourth quarter 2025 selling, general, and administrative expenses were $19.8 million, an increase of $10.9 million compared to $8.9 million in the prior-year period.

Rick Sullivan: Q4 2025 selling general and administrative expenses were $19.8 million, an increase of $10.9 million compared to $8.9 million in the prior year period, primarily driven by higher selling and marketing personnel costs, promotional expenses mainly due to the DTC investments, sales commission expenses as our consignment program expanded, and other general and administrative costs, including transition costs incurred to support the commercial transitions from Ascensia. Net loss was $20.8 million or a $0.46 loss per share in Q4 2025, compared to a net loss of $15.5 million or a $0.40 loss per share in Q4 2024. Net loss increased by $5.3 million, primarily due to increased sales commissions and other costs related to taking over the commercialization and distribution of Eversense.

Speaker #1: Primarily driven by higher selling and marketing personnel costs, promotional expenses, mainly due to the DTC investments, sales commission expenses as our consignment program expanded, and other general and administrative costs, including transition costs incurred to support the commercial transition from Asensia.

Speaker #1: Net loss was $20.8 million, or a $0.46 loss per share in the fourth quarter of 2025, compared to a net loss of $15.5 million, or a $0.40 loss per share in the fourth quarter of 2024.

Speaker #1: Net loss increased by $5.3 million, primarily due to increased sales commissions and other costs related to taking over the commercialization and distribution. Net loss was $35.3 million, compared to $22.5 million in 2024.

Rick Sullivan: For the full year, total revenue was $35.3 million compared to $22.5 million in 2024. US revenue was $27.9 million in 2025 compared to $15.3 million in the prior year. The revenue outside the US was $7.4 million in 2025 compared to $7.2 million in 2024. Net loss for 2025 was $69.1 million, a decrease of $78.6 million in 2024. The decrease in net loss was primarily driven by improved margins in our business from Eversense 365. Selling, general and administrative expenses for 2025 increased by $18.3 million year-over-year to $52.5 million. The increase was primarily driven by our direct-to-consumer campaign investments, sales commission expenses as we increased consignment sales, and costs related to the Ascensia transition.

Speaker #1: US revenue was 27.9 million in 2025, compared to 15.3 million in the prior year. And the revenue outside the US was 7.4 million in 2025, compared to 7.2 million in 2024.

Speaker #1: Net loss for 2025 was $69.1 million, a decrease of $78.6 million from 2024. The decrease in net loss was primarily driven by improved margins in our business from Eversense 365.

Speaker #1: Selling general and administrative expenses for 2025 increased by 18.3 million, year over year, to 52.5 million. The increase was primarily driven by our direct-to-consumer campaign investments, sales commission expenses as we increased consignment sales, and costs related to the Asensia transition.

Speaker #1: Research and development expenses for 2025 decreased by 9.5 million, from 2024 to 31.6 million. The decrease was primarily due to the completion of the EverSense 365 system clinical trials and development efforts, as well as a reduction in headcount.

Rick Sullivan: Research and development expenses for 2025 decreased by $9.5 million from 2024 to $31.6 million. The decrease was primarily due to the completion of the Eversense 365 system clinical trials and development efforts, as well as a reduction in headcount. As of 31 December 2025, cash, restricted cash, and cash equivalents totaled $94.3 million, and debt and accrued interest was $35.3 million. We expect full year 2026 global net revenue to be approximately $58 to 62 million, representing year-over-year growth of 65% to 76% as the company completes the transition of Eversense commercialization from Ascensia and brings the entire sales and marketing infrastructure in-house.

Speaker #1: As of December 31, 2025, cash, restricted cash, and cash equivalents totaled 94.3 million, and debt and accrued interest was 35.3 2026 global net revenue to be approximately 58 to 62 million, representing year-over-year growth of 65 to 76 percent as the company completes the transition of EverSense commercialization from Asensia and brings the entire sales and marketing infrastructure in-house.

Speaker #1: Due to the seasonality of our business, with deductibles resetting at the beginning of the year and higher utilization of patient assistance programs, we expect to receive the majority of our revenue in the second half of 2026, consistent with what we saw in 2025.

Rick Sullivan: Due to the seasonality of our business, with deductibles resetting at the beginning of the year and higher utilization of patient assistance programs, we expect to receive the majority of our revenue in the second half of 2026, consistent with what we saw in 2025. Taking into consideration our margin performance to date, along with the planned launch of Eversense 365 in Europe, which will allow us to be on a single product globally, we expect full year 2026 gross profit margin to be greater than 50%, beginning slightly lower and increasing sequentially. We are excited to simplify our business model with the integration of the commercial organization. We'll recognize improvements in our top line and the expansion of our gross profit margins.

Speaker #1: Taking into consideration our margin performance to date, along with the planned launch of EverSense 365 in Europe, which will allow us to be on a single product globally, we expect full year 2026 gross profit margin to be greater than 50%, beginning slightly lower and increasing sequentially.

Speaker #1: We are excited to simplify our business model with the integration of the commercial organization, and will recognize improvements in our top line and the expansion of our gross profit margins.

Speaker #1: Due to the integration of the commercial organization, and supporting transition service agreements from Asensia, we expect operating expenses to increase by about $70 million, consistent with Asensia's prior commercial spend.

Rick Sullivan: Due to the integration of the commercial organization and supporting transition service agreements from Ascensia, we expect operating expenses to increase by about $70 million, consistent with Ascensia's prior commercial spend. In 2026, we expect total operating expenses to be between $150 million and $160 million, with increases primarily in SG&A and a smaller increase in R&D for the Gemini pivotal trial. We expect cash utilization in 2026 to be between $110 million and $120 million, largely as a result increasing SG&A due to bringing the sales and marketing teams in-house. Last year, we expanded our debt facility with Hercules Capital up to $100 million, providing access for up to an additional $65 million of non-dilutive capital to help fund our increased operating expenses for the integrated business. With that, I'll turn it back to Tim.

Speaker #1: In 2026, we expect total operating expenses to be between $150 million and $160 million, with increases primarily in SG&A and a smaller increase in R&D for the Gemini Pivotal trial.

Speaker #1: We expect cash utilization in 2026 to be between $110 million and $120 million, largely as a result of increasing SG&A due to bringing the sales and marketing teams in-house.

Speaker #1: Last year, we expanded our debt facility with Hercules Capital up to $100 million, providing access for up to an additional $65 million of non-dilutive capital to help fund our increased operating expenses for the integrated business.

Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn it back to Tim.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Rick. These are exciting times for EverSense, with the accelerating growth of our revolutionary 365-day product. We've delivered significant new patient additions and top-line growth across 2025, driven by expanding awareness and adoption of EverSense in the US.

Tim Goodnow: Thank you, Rick. These are exciting times for Eversense. With the accelerating growth of our revolutionary 365-day product, we've delivered significant new patient additions and top-line growth across 2025, driven by expanding awareness and adoption of Eversense in the US. DTC investments continue to pay dividends as more people become aware of our compelling benefits of our product. We now have access to a whole new population of patients following the launch of our first AID combination. Our margins are improving, and the sales force continues to gain traction with a productive and energized sales force post-transition. We are already seeing encouraging retention with many early adopters now on their second year-long sensor, restarting the clock on 365 days of the best-in-class continuous glucose monitoring system.

Speaker #2: DTC investments continue to pay dividends as more people become aware of our compelling benefits of our product and we now have access to a whole new population of patients following the launch of our first AID combination.

Speaker #2: Our margins are improving, and the sales force continues to gain traction with a productive and energized sales force post-transition. We are already seeing encouraging retention, with many early adopters now on their second year-long sensor, restarting the clock on 365 days of the best-in-class, continuous glucose monitoring system.

Speaker #2: In our exciting pipeline, the disruptive Gemini and Freedom programs are advancing, and we look forward to updating the market on continued progress in due course.

Tim Goodnow: In our exciting pipeline, the disruptive Gemini and Freedom programs are advancing, and we look forward to updating the market on continued progress in due course. Overall, this was a record-breaking year for Senseonics, but is only just the beginning. Having demonstrated strong commercial progress, we have more confidence than ever in the clinical and commercial potential of Eversense. We also have the control of our destiny following the transition, with the right strategy in place and the right people leading the charge. Thank you all for joining us today and for your continued support. We look forward to building on the momentum from the first year of Eversense 365 with another year of growth in 2026. With that, I'll now turn the call over to the operator to answer any questions that you may have. Thanks once again for your time today.

Speaker #2: Overall, this was a record-breaking year for Sensionics, but is only just the beginning. Having demonstrated strong commercial progress, we have more confidence than ever in the clinical and commercial potential of EverSense.

Speaker #2: We also have control of our destiny following the transition, with the right strategy in place and the right people leading the charge. Thank you all for joining us today, and for your continued support.

Speaker #2: We look forward to building on the momentum from the first year of EverSense 365 with another year of growth in 2026. With that, I'll now turn the call over to the operator to answer any questions that you may have.

Speaker #2: Thanks once again for your time today. Operator, let's go ahead and open up the call for questions.

Tim Goodnow: Operator, let's go ahead and open up the call for questions.

Speaker #3: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw yourself from the queue, you may press star two.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw yourself from the queue, you may press star two. Once again, to ask a question, please press star one. We'll take our first question from Anthony Petrone with Mizuho Group. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Once again, to ask a question, please press star one. We'll take our first question from Anthony Petroni with Mizuho Group. Your line is open.

Anthony Petrone: Thanks, good afternoon, and congrats on a strong 2025 execution year. Maybe Tim Goodnow, Rick Sullivan, Brian Hansen, I'll start with perhaps some of the trends you're seeing here early in the year. You're coming off 2025, 103% new patient starts for the year, hits a new high in Q4. I know, Rick, obviously there's a little bit of seasonality on policy resets here as you start the year. You know, anything you can provide just in terms of US new starts at the beginning of the year, and then I'll have a couple of follow-ups.

Speaker #4: Thanks, and good afternoon, and congrats on a strong 2025 execution year. Maybe Tim, Rick, Brian—I'll start with maybe perhaps some of the trends you're seeing here early in the year.

Speaker #4: You're coming off 2025 with 103% new patient starts for the year, hitting a new high in the fourth quarter. And I know, Rick, obviously there's a little bit of seasonality on policy resets here.

Speaker #4: As you start the year, anything you can provide just in terms of U.S. new starts at the beginning of the year here, and then I'll have a couple of follow-ups.

Tim Goodnow: Sure, Anthony. Thanks for the question and time. We continue to do very nice on new patient starts. Eversense 365 product continues to form just as we expect. Excitedly, we're now into the more routine cycle of getting the reinsertions. New patient growth continues as we've expected it to, as we've planned it to. January typically is our softest month with the patient resets, but we plan for that. You know, very encouraging, we've seen a surprising amount of encouraging interest with the Sequel product and new patient starts associated with that. That's very encouraging to see. We continue, you know, we continue to make progress, as you know, with the CE marking for the Eversense 365 in Europe.

Speaker #5: Sure, Anthony. Thanks for the question and your time. We continue to do very well on new patient starts. The 365 product continues to perform just as we expect—excitedly.

Speaker #5: We're now into the more routine cycle of getting the reinsertions. So new patient growth continues. As we've expected it to, as we planned it to, January typically is our softest month with the patient resets, but we plan for that.

Speaker #5: Very encouraging. We've seen a surprising amount of interest in the SQL product and new patient starts associated with that. So that's very encouraging to see.

Speaker #5: And we continue to make progress, as you know, with the senior marketing for the 365 in Europe. So we're looking for that region to really take off as well here later in '26.

Tim Goodnow: We're looking for that region to really take off as well here later in 2026.

Speaker #4: Yeah, the follow-up is on that top-line guide, 58 to 62 million. You have the US clearance here earlier in this year as well as the twist product launched February 19th.

Anthony Petrone: Yeah. The follow-up is on that top line guide, $58 to 62 million. You have the US clearance here earlier in this year, as well as the twiist product launch 19 February. You know, to what extent in that range do you have some contribution for Europe and twiist? Maybe just a recap on twiist specifically, how the economics are split between Sequel and Senseonics. Thanks again. Congrats.

Speaker #4: So to what extent, in that range, do you have some contribution for Europe and twist? And maybe just a recap on twist specifically, how the economics are split between SQL and Sensionics.

Speaker #4: Thanks again. Congrats.

Speaker #5: Sure. I'll let Rick speak to Europe. For me, from an economics perspective, it's two companies that work together from a marketing and awareness perspective.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah, I'll let Rick speak to speak to Europe. For me, from an economic perspective, you know, it's two companies that work together with, you know, from a marketing and awareness perspective, but the economics are unique to each company. We sell the sensor, we recognize the associated economics. They sell a pump, through the integration that the iCGM enables, the patient enjoys that combination. There's, you know, there's really no difference economically on a brand-new patient start that's on an MDI versus somebody that's on a Sequel pump. For Europe, you know, the past couple of years we've seen fairly consistent revenue in Europe, really expecting the growth with the Eversense 365-day launch in Q2.

Tim Goodnow: Yeah, I'll let Rick speak to speak to Europe. For me, from an economic perspective, you know, it's two companies that work together with, you know, from a marketing and awareness perspective, but the economics are unique to each company. We sell the sensor, we recognize the associated economics. They sell a pump, through the integration that the iCGM enables, the patient enjoys that combination. There's, you know, there's really no difference economically on a brand-new patient start that's on an MDI versus somebody that's on a Sequel pump. For Europe, you know, the past couple of years we've seen fairly consistent revenue in Europe, really expecting the growth with the Eversense 365-day launch in Q2. That along with the elimination of that revenue share to Ascensia, we do expect Europe to be about 20% of our revenue in 2026.

Speaker #5: But the economics are unique to each company. So we sell a sensor. We recognize the associated economics. They sell a pump. And then through the integration that the ICGM enables, the patient enjoys that combination.

Speaker #5: So there's really no difference economically on a brand new patient start that's on an MDI versus somebody that's on a SQL pump.

Speaker #2: And then for Europe, the past couple of years we've seen fairly consistent revenue in Europe, really expecting the growth with the 365-day launch in Q2.

Speaker #2: And so, along with the elimination of that revenue share to Asensia, we do expect Europe to be about 20% of our revenue in 2026.

Rick Sullivan: That along with the elimination of that revenue share to Ascensia, we do expect Europe to be about 20% of our revenue in 2026.

Speaker #4: Helpful. Thanks.

Ben Haynor: Helpful. Thanks.

Anthony Petrone: Helpful. Thanks.

Speaker #3: We'll move next to Josh Jennings with TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Operator: We'll move next to Josh Jennings with TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. And it's great to see that you're on track to double new patient starts and the patient base.

Josh Jennings: Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. It's great to see that you're on track to double new patient starts in the patient base again this year. I was just wanting to check in on the takeover commercial organization in the United States from Ascensia. Seems like it has been seamless. All the sales reps converted over to under the Senseonics roof. Has it been as seamless as it sound? Have there been any friction points?

Speaker #6: Again, this year, I was just wanted to check in on the takeover of the commercial organization in the United States. And from Asensia, seems like it has been seamless, all the sales reps converted over to the Asensia under the Sensionics roof.

Speaker #6: But is it been as seamless as it sounds? And have there been any friction points?

Speaker #1: Yeah, Josh, thanks for that. It's a good question. There really isn't simple in the US. As it sounded, it was a straightforward as we expected.

Brian Hansen: Yeah. Josh, thanks for that. It's a good question. There, there really is as simple in the US as it sound. It was as straightforward as we expected. They changed business cards, they got a new computer. They had to do a few things. we even pulled their cars over with them. quite frankly, it went that simply. we have a full boat, and they all stayed. we're very fortunate. OUS, we have a little bit more work to do as we go through the transition here the first half of the year. we're hiring new folks to replace our BGM reps that were kind of supporting both products.

Speaker #1: They changed business cards. They got a new computer. They had to do a few things. So we even pulled their cars over with them.

Speaker #1: So quite frankly, it went that simply. And we have a full boat, and they all stayed. And so we're very fortunate OUS, we have a little bit more work to do as we go through the transition here, the first half of the year.

Speaker #1: And we're hiring new folks to replace our BGM reps that were kind of supporting both products. OUS has a few moving parts to it.

Brian Hansen: OUS has a few moving parts to it differently than the US. So far, the US, I mean, we had our kickoff meeting in January, late January in DC, and everybody was there and excited and focused. Yeah, as I said in my comments, that one's gone very well. Knock on wood.

Speaker #1: Differently than the US, but so far, the US, I mean, we had our kickoff meeting in January, late January, in DC, and everybody was there and excited.

Speaker #1: And focused. And so yeah, as I said in my comments, that one's gone very well, knock on wood.

Speaker #6: Excellent. And do you mind just reviewing where maybe some deficiencies were with Ascensia at the helm of the commercial effort? I mean, was it investment levels in DCT?

Josh Jennings: Excellent. Do you mind just reviewing where maybe some deficiencies were with Ascensia at the helm of the commercial effort? Was it investment levels in DCT? Was it aggressiveness in pursuing new prescribers? How just review how you guys are filling any voids that were in play prior to taking over the commercial effort in the US.

Speaker #6: Was it aggressiveness in pursuing new prescribers? And how—just review how you guys are filling any voids that were in play prior to taking over the commercial effort in the US?

Speaker #4: Yeah, no, the strategic execution around the commercial activities really did hand over one-for-one. Even in Europe, where we had some opportunities in the operational part of the organization, for example, there were some quality duplications that happened.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah. No, the strategic execution around the commercial activities really did hand over one pay one, even in Europe where we had some opportunities in the operational part of the organization, for example, there were some quality, you know...

Tim Goodnow: Yeah. No, the strategic execution around the commercial activities really did hand over one pay one, even in Europe where we had some opportunities in the operational part of the organization, for example, there were some quality, you know...

Brian Hansen: Duplication of effort. Yeah.

Rick Sullivan: ... duplications that happened, you know, some strategy elements that happened. In those cases, we did do some rationalization. Obviously, since there was just a little bit of upstream marketing around product development that existed in the prior Senseonics organization, that's now been folded into the new Senseonics commercial team. You know, Brian, Rick, and Ken, our GC, just really did an exemplary job leading this transition. To be able to get every sales rep, every inside sales rep, you know, to go over and be part of Ascensia at 5:00PM on Friday and show up at 8:00AM on Monday as a Senseonics employee was really impressive. Absolutely 0, knock on wood, customer impact through that transition. It's just been managed and executed with a great ability.

Tim Goodnow: ... duplications that happened, you know, some strategy elements that happened. In those cases, we did do some rationalization. Obviously, since there was just a little bit of upstream marketing around product development that existed in the prior Senseonics organization, that's now been folded into the new Senseonics commercial team. You know, Brian, Rick, and Ken, our GC, just really did an exemplary job leading this transition. To be able to get every sales rep, every inside sales rep, you know, to go over and be part of Ascensia at 5:00PM on Friday and show up at 8:00AM on Monday as a Senseonics employee was really impressive. Absolutely 0, knock on wood, customer impact through that transition. It's just been managed and executed with a great ability.

Speaker #4: Some strategy elements that happened. So in those cases, we did do some rationalization, but obviously, since there was just a little bit of upstream marketing around product development that existed in the prior Sensionics organization, that's now been folded into the new Sensionics commercial team.

Speaker #4: And Brian and Rick and Ken, RGC, just really did an exemplary job just leading this transition. To be able to get every sales rep, every inside sales rep, to go over and be part of Ascensia at 5:00 PM on Friday and show up at 8:00 AM on Monday as a Senseonics employee was really, really impressive.

Speaker #4: So and absolutely zero, knock on wood, customer impact. Through that transition. So it's just been managed and executed with a great ability.

Speaker #6: Well, that's impressive. And just with the active prescriber base growing 80% last year, and with Senseonics now in control of the commercial effort and the sales team, I mean, how do you expect that prescriber base to grow, one, and then two, I mean, just you guys are on track.

Josh Jennings: Well, that's impressive. Just with the active prescriber base growing 80% last year and with Senseonics now in control of the commercial effort and the sales team, I mean, how do you expect that prescriber base to grow, one? Then two, I mean, just you guys are on track. Your guidance when Ascensia was in control of this, the commercial effort was to double your patient base in 2025 and in 2026 on the heels of the Eversense 365 launch. With control now, complete control, I mean, could you do better than that? Could you see an acceleration in the prescriber base and new patient starts from this doubling, which is an impressive number, don't get me wrong, but.

Speaker #6: You're guidance when Asensia was in control of the commercial effort was to double your patient base in '25. And '26, on the heels of the EverSense 365 launch with control now, complete control.

Speaker #6: I mean, could you do better than that? Could you see an acceleration in the prescriber base and new patient starts from this doubling, which is an impressive number?

Speaker #6: Don't get me wrong, but.

Speaker #1: Easy, Josh.

Brian Hansen: Easy, Josh.

Speaker #6: I'll leave it there. Thanks for taking the questions.

Josh Jennings: I'll leave it there. Thanks for taking the questions.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah, certainly it sounds like Brian's signing up for more than that. No, in all seriousness, obviously, it's a significant push in 2025. We did accelerate the DTC under the expectation, and I think we validated that perspective, that this is really about awareness, right? As we spent the DTC, we made more and more patients who then in turn worked with their providers and made more and more providers aware of the opportunity with Eversense, the excitement around 365. For us to continue to sustain that level of growth, obviously, as Brian said, we are gonna spend a significant amount in DTC, but about the same that we spent last year. We just did back-end load it at the back half of the year.

Speaker #4: Yeah, certainly. It sounds like Brian’s signing up for more than that. No, in all seriousness, obviously, it’s a significant push in 2025. We did accelerate the DTC under the expectation—and I think we validated that perspective—that this is really about awareness, right?

Tim Goodnow: Yeah, certainly it sounds like Brian's signing up for more than that. No, in all seriousness, obviously, it's a significant push in 2025. We did accelerate the DTC under the expectation, and I think we validated that perspective, that this is really about awareness, right? As we spent the DTC, we made more and more patients who then in turn worked with their providers and made more and more providers aware of the opportunity with Eversense, the excitement around 365. For us to continue to sustain that level of growth, obviously, as Brian said, we are gonna spend a significant amount in DTC, but about the same that we spent last year. We just did back-end load it at the back half of the year.

Speaker #4: So as we spent the DTC, we made more and more patients, who then in turn worked with their providers and made more and more providers aware of the opportunity with EverSense.

Speaker #4: The excitement around 365. For us to continue to sustain that level of growth, obviously, as Brian said, we are going to spend a significant amount in DTC, but about the same that we spent last year.

Speaker #4: We just did backend loaded at the back half of the year, so the ramp is commensurate with that investment. We expect that ramp to slow down a little bit with the normalization of that spend over the year, but still supporting that doubling of growth or that approximately 70% revenue growth across the whole company.

Rick Sullivan: The ramp. It's commensurate with that investment. We expect that ramp to slow down a little bit over the, with the normalization of that spend over the year, but still supporting that, you know, that doubling of growth, or that approximately 70% of revenue growth across the, across the whole company.

Tim Goodnow: The ramp. It's commensurate with that investment. We expect that ramp to slow down a little bit over the, with the normalization of that spend over the year, but still supporting that, you know, that doubling of growth, or that approximately 70% of revenue growth across the, across the whole company.

Speaker #6: I understood. That makes sense. Thanks for the answers.

Josh Jennings: No, understood. That makes sense. Thanks for the answers.

Speaker #3: We'll take our next question from Matt Mixic with Barclays. Your line is open.

Operator: We'll take our next question from Matthew Miksic with Barclays. Your line is open.

Operator: We'll take our next question from Matt Miksic with Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks so much for taking the questions and congrats on the great progress and results. So maybe some follow-ups. Lastly, on the investment in DTC, it's proved to be pretty successful last year.

Matthew Miksic: Great. Thanks so much for taking the questions, and congrats on the great progress and results. Maybe some follow-ups. Lastly on the investment in DTC, it has proved to be pretty successful last year. Within the spend this year, how are you thinking about it? Are you front-end loading it, back-end loading it? Has it just become sort of a reliable and important budget item? Just any color you can give us on the size or the direction of DTC spend would be great. I have a couple of quick follow-ups.

Matt Miksic: Great. Thanks so much for taking the questions, and congrats on the great progress and results. Maybe some follow-ups. Lastly on the investment in DTC, it has proved to be pretty successful last year. Within the spend this year, how are you thinking about it? Are you front-end loading it, back-end loading it? Has it just become sort of a reliable and important budget item? Just any color you can give us on the size or the direction of DTC spend would be great. I have a couple of quick follow-ups.

Speaker #5: Within the spend this year, how are you thinking about it? Front-end loading it, back-end loading it? Has it just become sort of a reliable and important budget item?

Speaker #5: Just any color you can give us on the size or the direction of DTC spend would be great. And I have a couple of quick follow-ups.

Speaker #1: Yeah, so Brian here. We've spread it out a little bit more this year. It was, again, as Tim said, more in that last six months, and we really put quite a bit in that September, October, November timeframe.

Brian Hansen: Yeah. Brian here. We spread it out a little bit more this year. It was, again, as Tim said, more in that last six months, we really put quite a bit in that September, October, November timeframe. That's when you wanna put a bunch in as the Q4 is so strong. We also really stressed our team by doing that. Now to kind of level load it a little bit more, spending not quite half in the first half of the year and then saving a little bit to push into that really important Q3 and Q4 is how we're looking at it. We also learned a lot last year of what works and what doesn't work, what segments we were getting better returns versus others.

Speaker #1: That's when you want to put a bunch in, as the fourth quarter is so strong. But we also really stressed our team by doing that.

Speaker #1: And now, to kind of level-load it a little bit more, spending not quite half in the first half of the year and then saving a little bit to push into that really important third and fourth quarter, is how we're looking at it.

Speaker #1: And we also learned a lot last year about what works and what doesn't work—what segments we were getting better returns from versus others. And so, I think we're going to do a much better job this year taking our same spend but maximizing it.

Brian Hansen: I think we're gonna do a much better job this year taking our same spend but maximizing it, and our team is right-sized for that as well right now. We're expecting to spend the same but get better results as we spread it out across the year. $12 to 15 million is what we said in our prepared remarks.

Speaker #1: And our team is right-sized for that as well, right now. So we're expecting to spend the same but get better results as we spread it out across the year — $12 to $15 million is what we said in our prepared remarks.

Speaker #5: Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess the challenges or the sort of friction around getting more implantors up and running, getting more education out there that DTC is part of that, what do you see as the primary constraints right now in terms of growth, in terms of your ability to address new patient interest and new clinician things you're trying to address to kind of speed things and make the most of the opportunity you have?

Matthew Miksic: Okay. That's helpful. Then I guess the challenges or the sort of friction around, you know, getting more implanters up and running, getting more education out there, the DTC is part of that. You know, what do you see as the primary constraints right now in terms of growth, in terms of your ability to address new patient interests and new clinician interests? You know, what are the things you're trying to address to kind of speed things and make the most of the opportunity you have? I have just one last question, if that's okay.

Matt Miksic: Okay. That's helpful. Then I guess the challenges or the sort of friction around, you know, getting more implanters up and running, getting more education out there, the DTC is part of that. You know, what do you see as the primary constraints right now in terms of growth, in terms of your ability to address new patient interests and new clinician interests? You know, what are the things you're trying to address to kind of speed things and make the most of the opportunity you have? I have just one last question, if that's okay.

Speaker #5: And then I have just one last question if that's okay.

Speaker #4: Yeah, sure. Number one, Matt, it continues to be, as I said, it's around awareness. And that's where the DTC really helped. That drove it from the consumer level.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah, sure. Sure. Number one, Matt, it continues to be, as I said, it's around awareness, and that's where the DTC really helped. That drove it from the consumer level. Then we, you know, we would certainly augment that with a strong internal team that takes the inbound, you know, interest, does the facilitation, the adjudication, you know, the communication of the e-economics. Frankly, does work with the outside sales team, which also plays a very big role in the awareness on the clinical side, on the professional. We're gonna continue to do that. We have 45 regions right now that are focused in, you know, the primary areas. They are working hard to not only expand their reach but also to go deeper within the clinics.

Tim Goodnow: Yeah, sure. Sure. Number one, Matt, it continues to be, as I said, it's around awareness, and that's where the DTC really helped. That drove it from the consumer level. Then we, you know, we would certainly augment that with a strong internal team that takes the inbound, you know, interest, does the facilitation, the adjudication, you know, the communication of the e-economics. Frankly, does work with the outside sales team, which also plays a very big role in the awareness on the clinical side, on the professional. We're gonna continue to do that. We have 45 regions right now that are focused in, you know, the primary areas. They are working hard to not only expand their reach but also to go deeper within the clinics.

Speaker #4: And then we would certainly augment that with a strong internal team. It takes the inbound interest does the facilitation, the adjudication, the communication of the economics.

Speaker #4: And frankly, does work with the outside sales team, which also plays a very big role in the awareness on the clinical side, on the professional.

Speaker #4: So we're going to continue to do that. We have 45 regions right now that are focused in the primary areas. And they are working hard to not only expand their reach, but also to go deeper within the clinics.

Speaker #4: We think that's an opportunity as well. To make sure that instead of one or two doctors in a clinic being heavy prescribers, we're going to turn that into three, four, five prescribers.

Rick Sullivan: We think that's an opportunity as well, to make sure that, you know, instead of one or two doctors in a clinic being heavy prescribers, we're gonna turn that into three, four, five prescribers. Number one is certainly about awareness. Number two, from insertion, you're absolutely right. We're gonna continue to focus on it. That said, recall that our Eon program is a major initiative for us, right? We ended the year just about 60 nurse folks that were contracted with us to do the insertions, and we are absolutely on target here as we are now two months into it to end the year at 100 nurses. We anticipate they'll be doing 30% to 35% of all of our insertions in that time period. A lot of organic growth through that support initiative as well.

Tim Goodnow: We think that's an opportunity as well, to make sure that, you know, instead of one or two doctors in a clinic being heavy prescribers, we're gonna turn that into three, four, five prescribers. Number one is certainly about awareness. Number two, from insertion, you're absolutely right. We're gonna continue to focus on it. That said, recall that our Eon program is a major initiative for us, right? We ended the year just about 60 nurse folks that were contracted with us to do the insertions, and we are absolutely on target here as we are now two months into it to end the year at 100 nurses. We anticipate they'll be doing 30% to 35% of all of our insertions in that time period. A lot of organic growth through that support initiative as well.

Speaker #4: So number one is certainly about awareness. Number two from insertion, you're absolutely right. We're going to continue to focus on it. That said, recall that our EON program is a major initiative for us, right?

Speaker #4: We ended the year just about 60 nurse folks that were contracted with us to do the insertions. And we are absolutely on target here as we are now two months into it to end the year at 100 nurses.

Speaker #4: And we anticipate they'll be doing 30% to 35% of all of our insertions in that time period. So a lot of organic growth through that support initiative as well.

Speaker #5: Okay. And then finally, go ahead.

Matthew Miksic: Okay.

Matt Miksic: Okay.

Brian Hansen: Just to add one thing to it is.

Rick Sullivan: Go ahead. Sorry.

Tim Goodnow: Go ahead. Sorry.

Speaker #1: Sorry. No, just we saw a lot of changes in reimbursement last year, going from 180 to 365. And certainly, the first three, four months of the year, we had some things to work through.

Brian Hansen: No, just we saw a lot of changes in reimbursement last year, going from 180 to 365, and certainly the first three, four months of the year, we had some things to work through. We revamped that team. We've seen quite a few good results from that and really getting a clear picture of reimbursement, make it easier for the physician and the patients to know exactly how this is all going to work. As Tim said, the insertion and reimbursement piece, we've come a long way over the last 12 months of that. We really believe we'll benefit from that here in 2026. We're becoming easier to work with, and the volume has certainly helped with that.

Speaker #1: We've revamped that team. We've seen quite a few good results from that. And really getting a clearer picture of reimbursement, making it easier for the physician and the patient to know exactly how this is all going to work.

Speaker #1: And as Tim said, the insertion and reimbursement piece, we've come a long way over the last 12 months of that. And so we've really believed we'll benefit from that here in 2026.

Speaker #1: We're becoming easier to work with. And the volume has certainly helped with that.

Speaker #4: And Matt, you'll recall there was a little bit of a hurdle in early 2025 with the physician fee schedule. They first came out with G codes.

Rick Sullivan: Matt, you'll recall there was a little bit of a hurdle in early 2025 with the Physician Fee Schedule. They first came out with G-codes.

Tim Goodnow: Matt, you'll recall there was a little bit of a hurdle in early 2025 with the Physician Fee Schedule. They first came out with G-codes.

Matthew Miksic: Yep.

Matt Miksic: Yep.

Speaker #4: And then transitioned to the standard CPT codes. Well, we don't have that this year, right? They've republished the results or published the results for 2026.

Rick Sullivan: transitioned to the standard CPT codes. Well, we don't have that this year, right? They've republished the results or published the results for 2026. That started right away, so you know, we've been into, you know, the economics and implementation of those right from the very beginning of this year.

Tim Goodnow: transitioned to the standard CPT codes. Well, we don't have that this year, right? They've republished the results or published the results for 2026. That started right away, so you know, we've been into, you know, the economics and implementation of those right from the very beginning of this year.

Speaker #4: That started right away. So we've been into the economics and implementation of those right from the very beginning of this year.

Speaker #5: That's great. And then just lastly, just on the type of new folks signing up, new users experienced users, where they're coming from, the reasons I mean, there's lots of reasons why.

Matthew Miksic: That's great. Just lastly, just on the type of new folks signing up, you know, new users, experienced users, where they're coming from, the reasons. I mean, there's lots of reasons why they might choose Eversense. What are some of the, you know...

Matt Miksic: That's great. Just lastly, just on the type of new folks signing up, you know, new users, experienced users, where they're coming from, the reasons. I mean, there's lots of reasons why they might choose Eversense. What are some of the, you know...

Speaker #5: They might choose to choose EverSense, but what are some of the.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I'll let Brian.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah.

Tim Goodnow: Yeah.

Matthew Miksic: major reasons.

Matt Miksic: major reasons.

Rick Sullivan: I'll let Brian speak to the...

Tim Goodnow: I'll let Brian speak to the...

Speaker #5: Major reasons.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Maybe have that.

Matthew Miksic: Yeah. maybe how that's changing...

Matt Miksic: Yeah. maybe how that's changing...

Speaker #5: I'll let Brian speak to.

Rick Sullivan: I'll let Brian speak to.

Tim Goodnow: I'll let Brian speak to.

Speaker #4: If at all, how it's changing. Thanks so much.

Matthew Miksic: if at all, and how it's changing. Thanks so much.

Matt Miksic: if at all, and how it's changing. Thanks so much.

Speaker #2: Yeah. Matt, I'll let Brian speak to the change, which we're absolutely seeing now with an AID partner. But from a from a investment perspective, much of our DTC and quite frankly, the facile nature of the buy and bill really makes this attractive product for people that are on Medicare.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah, Matt, I'll let Brian speak to the change which we're absolutely seeing now with an AID partner. From a, you know, from an investment perspective, much of our DTC and quite frankly the fast style nature of the buy-and-bill really makes this attractive product for people that are on Medicare. You know, we have transitioned to probably, you know, 70% type 2 patients in 2025 or at least coming out of 2025. I expect that that proportion will actually change back more towards type 1 now here with the pump partner. We continue to see the majority of our patients are switchers that are either coming from one of the two transcutaneous sensors with about 15 or 20% are brand new to the space.

Tim Goodnow: Yeah, Matt, I'll let Brian speak to the change which we're absolutely seeing now with an AID partner. From a, you know, from an investment perspective, much of our DTC and quite frankly the fast style nature of the buy-and-bill really makes this attractive product for people that are on Medicare. You know, we have transitioned to probably, you know, 70% type 2 patients in 2025 or at least coming out of 2025. I expect that that proportion will actually change back more towards type 1 now here with the pump partner. We continue to see the majority of our patients are switchers that are either coming from one of the two transcutaneous sensors with about 15 or 20% are brand new to the space.

Speaker #2: So we have transitioned to probably 70% type 2 patients. In 2025, or at least coming out of 2025, I expect that that proportion will actually change back more towards type 1.

Speaker #2: Now here with the pump partner. But we continue to see the majority of our patients are switchers that are either coming from one of the two transcutaneous sensors with about 15 or 20 percent are brand new to this space.

Speaker #2: Is that? Is that all right? And then on the new pump rollout has been very encouraged.

Josh Jennings: Yep.

Rick Sullivan: About right. On the new pump rollout has been very encouraging.

Tim Goodnow: About right. On the new pump rollout has been very encouraging.

Speaker #5: That's great. Thank you.

Josh Jennings: That's great. Thank you.

Speaker #1: So much more to add there, Tim—spot on.

Brian Hansen: Not much more to add there, Timothy. Spot on.

Speaker #6: We'll take our next question from Marie Thiebault with BTIG. Your line is open.

Operator: We'll take our next question from Marie Thibault with BTIG. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Hi. Good evening. Thanks for taking the questions. Nice job on this quarter, for sure. Wanted to ask a follow-up here on the Eversense E3 inserter network.

Marie Thibault: Hi. Good evening. Thanks for taking the questions and nice job on this quarter for sure. Wanted to ask a follow-up here on the Eon Care inserter network. You mentioned moving from 60 to 100 this year. What's sort of the gating factor on expanding that more quickly? I know they're doing about a quarter of volumes. It seems like you could move to a third or better of volume. I guess what challenges, if any, are there in kind of expanding that network and moving more quickly on that opportunity?

Speaker #7: You mentioned moving from 60 to 100 this year. What’s the gating factor on expanding that more quickly? I know they’re doing about a quarter of volumes—it seems like you could move to a third or better of volume.

Speaker #7: So, I guess, what challenges, if any, are there in kind of expanding that network and moving more quickly on that opportunity?

Speaker #1: Yeah, Marie, there really isn't. It's really about volume and having enough work for them. And there's really no downside to going to 125 or 150 if the volume justifies it and we can keep them busy, and we can identify folks in the areas where we need them.

Brian Hansen: Yeah, Marie, there really isn't. It's really about volume and having enough work for them. There's really no downside to going to 125 or 150. If the volume justifies it, we can keep them busy, and we can identify folks in the areas where, you know, we need them. You know, that 100 mark seems like a sweet spot. Getting, you know, an increase in the percentage of insertions that they do is good for everybody, our economics as well as the quality of the work. It frees up the physicians in the prescriber-only areas where they really don't wanna do it. That's kind of a goal, but it could exceed that. There's nothing that stops us from doing more.

Speaker #1: And so that 100 mark, it seems like a sweet spot. Getting an increase in the percentage of insertions that they do is good for everybody.

Speaker #1: Our economics as well as the quality of the work. And it frees up the physicians and the prescriber-only areas where they really don't want to do it.

Speaker #1: So that's kind of a goal, but it could exceed that. There's nothing that stops us from doing more. We just need to have the volume to keep them busy and justify putting those in places and getting them accredited and certified and trained.

Brian Hansen: We just need to have the volume to keep them busy and justify putting those in places and getting them accredited and certified and trained. It's a good question. There really is no barrier.

Speaker #1: But it's a good question. There really is no barrier.

Speaker #6: Okay. Good to hear. And as a follow-up, on the operating spend level that you discussed, I think 150 to 160 million this year, understand that the bulk of that is kind of picking up where Ascensia left off in terms of the spend.

Marie Thibault: Okay. Good to hear. On the operating spend level that you discussed, I think $150 to $160 million this year. Understand that the bulk of that is kind of picking up where Ascensia left off in terms of the spend. But maybe we can sort of get longer term and understand, is this sort of a... Are you expecting a multi-year investment here? Should we expect continued step-ups in the out years? Certainly, just wanna understand it now that everything's under the Senseonics roof, if you will. Thank you for taking the questions.

Speaker #6: But maybe we can sort of get longer-term and understand, is this sort of a are you expecting a multi-year investment here? Should we expect continued step-ups in the out-years?

Speaker #6: Certainly, just want to understand it now that everything's under the Ascensionics roof, if you will. And thank you for taking the questions.

Speaker #4: Yeah, from the commercial spend perspective, it'll certainly continue to grow as our revenue grows, but not at the magnitude that it is in 2026.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah. From the commercial spend perspective, it'll certainly continue to grow as our revenue grows, but not at the magnitude that it is in 2026. It will be more efficient, but as we launch new products, we'll expand the number of territories, increase the number of providers from the Eon Care, et cetera. It'll decrease as a percentage of revenue going forward. This year we do have a Gemini clinical trial, which is about $5 million of an increase in our R&D line. We'll see a similar amount next year for the Freedom trial, R&D should go down for further out years.

Speaker #4: And so it will be more efficient. But as we launch new products, we'll expand the number of territories and increase the number of providers from the EON care etc.

Speaker #4: But again, it will not it'll decrease as a percentage of revenue going forward. And then this year, we do have a Gemini clinical trial, which is about $5 million of an increase in our R&D line.

Speaker #4: We'll see a similar amount next year for the Freedom trial, but then R&D should go down for further out-years.

Speaker #6: All right. Helpful detail. Thank you, Rick.

Marie Thibault: All right. Helpful detail. Thank you, Rick.

Speaker #4: Yep.

Rick Sullivan: Yep.

Speaker #6: We'll move next to John Block with Stifel. Your line is open.

Operator: We'll move next to Jon Block with Stifel. Your line is open.

Speaker #1: Great. Thanks, guys. Good afternoon. Tim or Brian, anything around the timing of additional pump partnerships coming on board? Do you expect that in 2026?

Jon Block: Great. Thanks, guys. Good afternoon. Tim or Brian, anything around the timing of additional pump partnerships coming on board, you know, do you expect that in 2026? You know, Rick, does the guidance arguably take into account any thoughts or additional pump partnerships this year?

Speaker #1: And then Rick, does the guidance arguably take into account any thoughts or additional pump partnerships this year?

Rick Sullivan: Thanks, Jon. We do continue to work with additional pump opportunities. We're not yet announcing any of those or going public with them, but, you know, we do have, you know, quite a bit of interest. Obviously, getting the first one out has, you know, creates a little bit of dynamic of there's only one pump company right now that has access to the Eversense, and they've seen an encouraging conversion as a result of that. We certainly expect that's gonna work in our favor. We have not as of yet modeled additional pump companies in. We would look for that to be upsides, but still not announcing timing on the next one yet.

Speaker #4: Thanks, John. We do continue to work with additional pump opportunities. We're not yet announcing any of those or going public with them, but we do have quite a bit of interest.

Speaker #4: Obviously, getting the first one out is creates a little bit of dynamic because there's only one pump company right now that has access to the EverSense.

Speaker #4: And they've seen an encouraging conversion as a result of that, so we certainly expect that's going to work in our favor. But we have not, as of yet, modeled additional pump companies in.

Speaker #4: We would look for that to be upsides, but still not announcing timing on the next one yet.

Speaker #1: Okay. Thanks for that. And then I'll just try to get a little bit more granular on the revenue, Rick. You provided some details on the cadence.

Jon Block: Okay. Thanks for that. I'll just try to get a little bit more granular on the revenue. Rick, you know, you provided some details on the cadence. It was more, I believe, what you alluded to, call it like 2 H 66 versus 1 H. You know, any more details you can give, just even call it Q1 due to some of the moving parts with Ascensia. You know, when I look at straight around $10 million and those moving parts, and here we are in early March, is that sort of a good figure to, call it, set ourselves and then think about the other commentary you provided, 2 H versus 1 H? Thank you.

Speaker #1: It was more I believe what you alluded to called 2H26 versus 1H. But any more details you can give, just even call it 1Q due to some of the moving parts with Ascensia, when I look at straight around $10 million, and those moving parts, and here we are in early March, is that sort of a good figure to call it set ourselves and then think about the other commentary you provided 2H versus 1H?

Speaker #1: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yeah. From a revenue perspective, we know that we have the seasonality in Q1 with the deductibles resetting and higher utilization of our patient assistance programs.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah. From a revenue perspective, we know that we have the seasonality in Q1 with the deductibles resetting and higher utilization of our patient assistance programs, which impacts that ASP through that channel. Then also the second half of the year is typically where we have now some large of our renewals from the past couple of years with the 365 launch. The revenue is certainly back half loaded, and I do expect it to be similar to 2025. Thinking about 40% in the first half, 60% in the second half, approximately. We will see certainly a step down in Q1 because of that seasonality from where we were in Q4.

Speaker #4: With the impacts that ASP through that channel. And then also the second half of the year is typically where we have now some large of our renewals from the past couple of years with the 365 launch.

Speaker #4: And so the revenue is certainly back half loaded. And I do expect it to be similar in 2025, thinking about 40% in the first half, 60% in the second half, approximately.

Speaker #4: And we will certainly see a step down in Q1 because of that seasonality from where we were in Q4.

Speaker #1: Okay. Great. I'll follow up with you guys offline. Appreciate it.

Ben Haynor: Okay, great. I'll follow up with you guys offline. Appreciate it.

Jon Block: Okay, great. I'll follow up with you guys offline. Appreciate it.

Speaker #6: We'll move next to Ben Haenor with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Operator: We'll move next to Ben Haynor with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the questions. First off, for me, on the DTC marketing, are you what sort of lessons are you learning there?

Ben Haynor: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking the questions. First off, for me, on the DTC marketing, what sort of lessons are you learning there? You know, for instance, areas where you have more users, do you see a greater impact from advertising? Does greater awareness in a given area kinda translate to, you know, cheaper user acquisition? How should we think about, you know, some of the dynamics of the DTC marketing?

Speaker #7: For instance, in areas where you have more users, do you see a greater impact? From advertising, does greater awareness in a given area kind of translate to cheaper user acquisition?

Speaker #7: What's how should we think about some of the dynamics of the DTC marketing?

Speaker #1: Yeah. We could talk about that for hours. The first and foremost is we tend to really focus where we have qualified inserters. And so we've played with that geography boundary.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah, we could talk about that for hours. The first and foremost is we tend to really focus where we have qualified inserters. We've played with that geography boundary. We can geo-fence our spend. It's very interesting when you start moving it 75, 100, 125 miles, how you start to reduce the effectiveness of it when you get too far away from an inserter. To Marie's question earlier of getting more insertion areas and coverage really helps us then maximize our DTC efforts going forward. You get into the different channels. You get into the different markets that you try to pour a little bit more into. It typically success breeds success there.

Brian Hansen: Yeah, we could talk about that for hours. The first and foremost is we tend to really focus where we have qualified inserters. We've played with that geography boundary. We can geo-fence our spend. It's very interesting when you start moving it 75, 100, 125 miles, how you start to reduce the effectiveness of it when you get too far away from an inserter. To Marie's question earlier of getting more insertion areas and coverage really helps us then maximize our DTC efforts going forward. You get into the different channels. You get into the different markets that you try to pour a little bit more into. It typically success breeds success there.

Speaker #1: We can geofence our spend. It's very interesting when you start moving it 75, 100, 125 miles, how you start to reduce the effectiveness of it when you get too far away from an inserter.

Speaker #1: So to Marie's question earlier of getting more insertion areas and coverage really helps us then maximize our DTC efforts going forward. Then you get into the different channels.

Speaker #1: You get into the different markets that you try to pour a little bit more into. And it typically success breeds success there. And so we watch that very closely when we see areas that we get a better return, lower cost per workable lead, all the things that we follow very well.

Rick Sullivan: We watch that very closely when we see areas that we get a better return, lower cost per workable lead, all the things that we follow very well. We continue to pour more in until we see it diminish at that point. Then we certainly test a whole bunch of different ads and methods that we go through. The team is constantly changing those almost on a week or 2-week basis in different markets at times as well. The sophistication is very, very interesting. What we found last year is we did fairly well, especially with the robust Medicare reimbursement we had. We really started to lean into some of those areas, and again, where we had proper coverage for insertions.

Brian Hansen: We watch that very closely when we see areas that we get a better return, lower cost per workable lead, all the things that we follow very well. We continue to pour more in until we see it diminish at that point. Then we certainly test a whole bunch of different ads and methods that we go through. The team is constantly changing those almost on a week or 2-week basis in different markets at times as well. The sophistication is very, very interesting. What we found last year is we did fairly well, especially with the robust Medicare reimbursement we had. We really started to lean into some of those areas, and again, where we had proper coverage for insertions.

Speaker #1: We continue to pour more in until we see it diminish at that point. And then we certainly test a whole bunch of different ads and methods that we go through.

Speaker #1: And the team is constantly changing those almost on a week or two-week basis in different markets at times as well. So, the sophistication is very, very interesting.

Speaker #1: And what we found last year is we did fairly well, especially with the robust Medicare reimbursement we had. We really started to lean into some of those areas.

Speaker #1: And again, where we had proper coverage for insertions. So I could go on and on in the different levers that we pull. But you really do start to lean into those areas you're doing very well and continue to invest more and more in those until you see it start to slow down a little bit and that's some of the learnings we really got from last year.

Rick Sullivan: I could go on and on with the different levers we pull, but you really do start to lean into those areas you're doing very well and continue to invest more and more in those until you see it start to slow down a little bit. That's some of the learnings we really got from last year and will continue this year, but I think we've got a more focused effort as we go into 2026.

Brian Hansen: I could go on and on with the different levers we pull, but you really do start to lean into those areas you're doing very well and continue to invest more and more in those until you see it start to slow down a little bit. That's some of the learnings we really got from last year and will continue this year, but I think we've got a more focused effort as we go into 2026.

Speaker #1: And we'll continue this year but I think we've got a more focused effort as we go into '26.

Speaker #7: Great, that's helpful color. And then, are you seeing any changes to the behavior of new prescribers with the 365-day version?

Ben Haynor: Great. That's, that's helpful color. Then are you seeing any changes to kind of the behavior of new prescribers with the 365-day version?

Speaker #4: No, I wouldn't say there's been a change in behavior. Certainly, interest level and the recognition and now the feedback, it's much more common to see feedback from users now that are gone on to their second sensor.

Rick Sullivan: No, I wouldn't say there's been a change in behavior, certainly interest level.

Ben Haynor: Right.

Rick Sullivan: The recognition and now the feedback, you know, it's much more common to see feedback from users now that are gone on to their second sensor. You know, the retention rates are encouraging, right? People love the product. When they, you know, when they use it for as long as a year, it becomes part of their life, right? I would say from that perspective, you know, a convert is very, very attractive to us. From a new patient perspective, you know, I don't think we see any real behavior differences from, as we've seen before, nor from the prescriber side.

Speaker #4: The retention rates are encouraging, right? People love the product. When they use it for as long as a year, it becomes part of their life, right?

Speaker #4: So I would say from that perspective, a convert is very, very attractive to us. But from a new patient perspective, I don't think we see any real behavior differences from as we've seen before nor from the prescriber side.

Speaker #7: Okay. Got it. And then on that retention comment, can you remind us kind of where the expectations are for retention that are being exceeded?

Ben Haynor: Okay. Got it. Then on that retention comment, can you remind us kinda where the expectations are for retention and that are being exceeded?

Speaker #4: Yeah. We haven't updated as of yet as we're still honestly pretty early into the one-year renewal cycle. But our history had been from first to second sensor, it was in the 70s.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah. We, you know, we haven't updated those as yet as we're still honestly pretty early into the one-year renewal cycle. Our history had been, you know, from first to second sensor, it was in the 70s. Second to third sensor was in the 80%. By the time people were on the third sensor, it was, you know, 90% retention or sometimes even higher, as is evidenced in our European market. You know, I would anticipate that, you know, the largest drop-off is from first to second. Still some pretty attractive rates.

Speaker #4: Second to third sensor was in the 80%. And then by the time people were on the third sensor, it was 90% retention or sometimes even higher.

Speaker #4: As is evidenced in our European market, so I would anticipate that the largest drop-off is from first to second. But still, some pretty attractive rates.

Speaker #7: Got it. Thank you for the color, gentlemen. And congrats on the progress.

Ben Haynor: Got it. Thank you for the color, gentlemen, and, congrats on the progress.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Thanks.

Rick Sullivan: Thank you.

Brian Hansen: Thank you.

Ben Haynor: Thanks.

Rick Sullivan: Thanks.

Speaker #6: And once more, that is Star One for your questions. We'll move next to Sean Lee with HC Wainwright. Your line is open.

Operator: Once more, that is star 1 for your questions. We'll move next to Sean Lee with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open.

Sung Lee: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking our questions. Just have 2 of them. First, for the European market, what's the expected timeline for the rollout there? Are you seeing any hurdles from the transition, especially as I know some of these are affected by local purchase agreements?

Sean Lee: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking our questions. Just have 2 of them. First, for the European market, what's the expected timeline for the rollout there? Are you seeing any hurdles from the transition, especially as I know some of these are affected by local purchase agreements?

Speaker #8: Hey. Good afternoon, guys. And thanks for taking our questions. I just have two of them. So first, for the European market, what's the expected timeline for the rollout there?

Speaker #8: Are you seeing any hurdles from the transition, especially as I know some of these are affected by local purchase agreements?

Speaker #4: Yeah, the timing is consistent as we've guided since the beginning of the year, that being, we expect the transition to occur in the second quarter.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah. The timing is consistent as we've guided since the beginning of the year. That being, we expect the transition to occur in Q2. That is gated by the transitions that we're going through right now. Many of these markets are tender markets, so they're contracted with Ascensia, and we are transitioning those to Senseonics. We're in that process right now. We did receive the approval, the CE mark, so, you know, we have the authorization to go. We'd anticipate, you know, mid-Q2 that we'll be rolling out the product into those markets. Some of the tenders will go, you know, frankly go through the summer, even into early fall, depending on the contracts that we have.

Speaker #4: That is gated by the transitions that we're going through right now. Many of these markets are tender markets. So they're contracted. With Ascensia, and we are transitioning those to Ascensionex.

Speaker #4: We're in that process right now. We did receive the approval—the CE Mark—so we have the authorization to go. And we'd anticipate mid-second quarter that we'll be rolling out the product into those markets.

Speaker #4: Some of the tenders will go frankly go through the summer even into early fall depending on the contracts that we have. But say May through September, October time period, we'll transition.

Rick Sullivan: You know, say, you know, say May through September, October time period, we'll transition.

Speaker #8: Great. Thank you for the clarity on that. My second question is on the GEMINI study and how the potential approval would go for that.

Sung Lee: Great. Thank you for the clarity on that. My second question is on the Gemini study and how the potential approval would go for that. I was just wondering, is the FDA requiring a second MARD for the flash mode for the Gemini because it has both two different functionalities versus Eversense 365? How does the inclusion of the dual modality impact the complexity of the trial?

Sean Lee: Great. Thank you for the clarity on that. My second question is on the Gemini study and how the potential approval would go for that. I was just wondering, is the FDA requiring a second MARD for the flash mode for the Gemini because it has both two different functionalities versus Eversense 365? How does the inclusion of the dual modality impact the complexity of the trial?

Speaker #8: I was just wondering, is the FDA requiring a second AMART for the flash mode for the Gemini? Because it has both two different functionalities versus a sensor 365.

Speaker #8: How does the inclusion of the dual modality impact the complexity of the trial?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Yeah. The FDA will expect that in the flash mode or in the near-field mode with the transmitter, it will give you the same result.

Rick Sullivan: Yeah. Yeah. The FDA will expect that in the flash mode or in the near-field mode with the transmitter, it will give you the same result. You know, the expectation is it's the same chemistry, the same sensor. Our expectation and their expectation should be that it's iCGM compliant. As you recall, our MARD is around 8% that supports that, and we don't have any reason to expect that that would change. Technologically, there should be no reason why you get a different result in flash or with near-field.

Speaker #4: So the expectation is it's the same chemistry, the same sensor. Our expectation and their expectation should be that it's ICGM compliant. And as you recall, our AMART is around 8% that supports that.

Speaker #4: And we don't have any reason to expect that that would change. But technologically, there should be no reason why you get a different result in flash or with near-field.

Speaker #8: Got it. Fantastic. That's all I have. Thanks for taking our questions.

Sung Lee: Got it. fantastic. That's all I have. Thanks for taking our questions.

Sean Lee: Got it. fantastic. That's all I have. Thanks for taking our questions.

Speaker #4: Great. Thanks, Sean.

Rick Sullivan: Great. Thanks, Sung.

Rick Sullivan: Great. Thanks, Sean.

Speaker #6: Thank you. This does conclude our question-and-answer session and today's conference. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you for your time and have a great day.

Operator: Thank you. This does conclude our question and answer session and today's conference. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you for your time, and have a great day. Goodbye.

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