Q4 2025 Franco-Nevada Corp Earnings Call
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Speaker #2: Please go ahead. Thank you, Joanna. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Franco-Nevada's year-end 2022 results. Accompanying this call is a presentation, which is available on our website at franco-nevada.com, where you will also find our full financial results.
Candida Hayden: Thank you, Joanna. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Franco-Nevada's year-end 2022 results. Accompanying this call is a presentation which is available on our website at franco-nevada.com, where you'll also find our full financial results. Presentation is also available to view on the webcast. During our call this morning, Paul Brink, President and CEO of Franco-Nevada, will provide introductory remarks, followed by Sandip Rana, Chief Financial Officer, who will provide a review of our results, followed by Eaun Gray, Chief Investment Officer, who will provide a review of our recent acquisitions. This will be followed by a Q&A period. Our full executive team is available to answer any questions. Participants may submit questions by telephone or via the webcast.
Candida Hayden: Thank you, Joanna. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Franco-Nevada's year-end 2022 results. Accompanying this call is a presentation which is available on our website at franco-nevada.com, where you'll also find our full financial results. Presentation is also available to view on the webcast. During our call this morning, Paul Brink, President and CEO of Franco-Nevada, will provide introductory remarks, followed by Sandip Rana, Chief Financial Officer, who will provide a review of our results, followed by Eaun Gray, Chief Investment Officer, who will provide a review of our recent acquisitions. This will be followed by a Q&A period. Our full executive team is available to answer any questions. Participants may submit questions by telephone or via the webcast.
Speaker #2: The presentation is also available to view on the webcast. During our call this morning, Paul Brink, President and CEO of FRANCO NEVADA, will provide introductory remarks, followed by Sandip Rana, Chief Financial Officer who will provide a review of our results.
Speaker #2: Followed by Ian Gray, Chief Investment Officer who will provide a review of our recent acquisitions. This will be followed by a Q&A period. Our full executive team is available to answer any questions.
Speaker #2: Participants may submit questions by telephone or via the webcast. We would like to remind participants that some of today's commentary may contain forward-looking information, and we refer you to our detailed cautionary note on slide 2 of this presentation.
Candida Hayden: We would like to remind participants that some of today's commentary may contain forward-looking information, and we refer you to our detailed cautionary note on slide two of this presentation. I will now turn over the call to Paul Brink, President and CEO of Franco-Nevada.
Candida Hayden: We would like to remind participants that some of today's commentary may contain forward-looking information, and we refer you to our detailed cautionary note on slide two of this presentation. I will now turn over the call to Paul Brink, President and CEO of Franco-Nevada.
Speaker #2: I will now turn over the call to Paul Brink, President and CEO of FRANCO NEVADA.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Candida, and good morning. 2025 was a record-breaking year for Franco-Nevada, driven by higher precious metal prices and growing production. Thanks to a strong fourth quarter, we achieved the top end of our revised 2025 GEO guidance range.
Paul Brink: Thanks, Candida, and good morning. 2025 was a record-breaking year for Franco-Nevada, driven by higher precious metal prices and growing production. Thanks to a strong Q4, we achieved the top end of our revised 2025 GEO guidance range. A big focus for us is growing the business profitably, so it's a proud moment when the annual earnings increased by roughly 75%. The more than $1 billion in earnings is close to a 60% earnings margin, a level of profitability that's impressive in any sector. In January this year, we increased our dividend for the 19th consecutive time. With a record rise in our 2025 cash flow, we announced a higher than normal 16% dividend increase. Our 2026 GEO guidance shows good growth over 2025, with further growth in our five-year outlook. In many ways, this is just a baseline.
Paul Brink: Thanks, Candida, and good morning. 2025 was a record-breaking year for Franco-Nevada, driven by higher precious metal prices and growing production. Thanks to a strong Q4, we achieved the top end of our revised 2025 GEO guidance range. A big focus for us is growing the business profitably, so it's a proud moment when the annual earnings increased by roughly 75%. The more than $1 billion in earnings is close to a 60% earnings margin, a level of profitability that's impressive in any sector. In January this year, we increased our dividend for the 19th consecutive time. With a record rise in our 2025 cash flow, we announced a higher than normal 16% dividend increase. Our 2026 GEO guidance shows good growth over 2025, with further growth in our five-year outlook. In many ways, this is just a baseline.
Speaker #3: A big focus for us is growing the business profitably. So it's a proud moment when the annual earnings increased by roughly 75%. The more than $1 billion in earnings is close to a 60% earnings margin.
Speaker #3: The level of profitability that's impressive in any sector. In January this year, we increased our dividend for the 19th consecutive time. For the record rise in our 2025 cash flow, we announced a higher-than-normal 16% dividend increase.
Speaker #3: Our 2026 GEO guidance shows good growth over 2025 with further growth in our five-year outlook. In many ways, this is just the baseline. With the abundant cash flow and capital in the gold sector.
Paul Brink: With the abundant cash flow and capital in the gold sector, the drills will be turning on the 70,000 sq km of mineral tenure that we cover globally. We've identified $250 million of exploration spend on our Canadian assets alone this year. We expect a multiple of that on our global portfolio. A restart of Cobre Panamá would add significant further growth, and the Panamanian government's willingness to approve the processing of stockpiles is a positive step in that direction. While our goal is to be the go-to gold stock, we recognize the cyclical nature of commodities and the benefits of some commodity diversification. Our guidance this year is based on $70 per barrel oil. The last I saw, WTI prices were $85 a barrel. If that's sustained, our 2026 guidance may be too conservative.
Paul Brink: With the abundant cash flow and capital in the gold sector, the drills will be turning on the 70,000 sq km of mineral tenure that we cover globally. We've identified $250 million of exploration spend on our Canadian assets alone this year. We expect a multiple of that on our global portfolio. A restart of Cobre Panamá would add significant further growth, and the Panamanian government's willingness to approve the processing of stockpiles is a positive step in that direction. While our goal is to be the go-to gold stock, we recognize the cyclical nature of commodities and the benefits of some commodity diversification. Our guidance this year is based on $70 per barrel oil. The last I saw, WTI prices were $85 a barrel. If that's sustained, our 2026 guidance may be too conservative.
Speaker #3: The drills will be turning on the 70,000 square kilometers of mineral tenure that we cover globally. We've identified 250 million of exploration spend on our Canadian assets alone this year.
Speaker #3: So we expect a multiple of that on our global portfolio. A restart of corporate Panama would add significant further growth. And the Panamanian's government's willingness to approve the processing of stockpiles is a positive step in that direction.
Speaker #3: While our goal is to be the go-to gold stock, we recognize the cyclical nature of commodities and the benefits of some commodity diversification. Our guidance this year is based on $70 per barrel oil; the last I saw, WTI prices were $85 a barrel.
Speaker #3: If that sustained, our 2026 guidance may be too conservative. 2024 and 2025 have been two of our best ever years for capital deployment. Adding six quality long-dated assets to the portfolio.
Paul Brink: 2024 and 2025 have been two of our best ever years for capital deployment, adding 6 quality long-dated assets to the portfolio that contribute to our 5-year outlook and help sustain those production levels over the next decade and beyond. Our strategy of being the financial back of strong teams has worked wonders. We've seen the G Mining and Discovery share prices increase tenfold, and they're now some of the darlings in the sector. Post-year-end, Euan and the team have backed 2 other teams in North America, Patrick Downey and the O3 team acquiring Casa Berardi from Hecla, and Richard Young and the i-80 team developing their suite of assets in Nevada. Most recently, we've backed Tim Goyder and the Minerals 260 team developing the Bullabulling assets in Western Australia.
Paul Brink: 2024 and 2025 have been two of our best ever years for capital deployment, adding 6 quality long-dated assets to the portfolio that contribute to our 5-year outlook and help sustain those production levels over the next decade and beyond. Our strategy of being the financial back of strong teams has worked wonders. We've seen the G Mining and Discovery share prices increase tenfold, and they're now some of the darlings in the sector. Post-year-end, Euan and the team have backed 2 other teams in North America, Patrick Downey and the O3 team acquiring Casa Berardi from Hecla, and Richard Young and the i-80 team developing their suite of assets in Nevada. Most recently, we've backed Tim Goyder and the Minerals 260 team developing the Bullabulling assets in Western Australia.
Speaker #3: That contribute to our five-year outlook. And help sustain and help sustain those production levels over the next decade and beyond. Our strategy of being the financial bank of strong teams has worked wonders.
Speaker #3: We've seen the GMIN and Discovery share prices increase tenfold. And they're now some of the darlings in the sector. Post-year end, Ian and the team have backed two other teams in North America, Patty Downey and the Orzone team, acquiring Casiberati from Heckler and Richard Young in the I-80 team developing their suite of assets in Nevada.
Speaker #3: Most recently, we've backed Tim Goider and the Minerals 260 team developing the Bulla Bulling assets in Western Australia. We're delighted that their share price is up 50% in the couple of weeks since the transaction was announced.
Paul Brink: We're delighted that their share price is up 50% in the couple of weeks since the transaction was announced. By making their shareholders successful, we believe we can open the eyes of the Australian markets to the power of our financing model. You will have seen in our asset handbook the term royalty ounces, representing NSR interests, streams, and royalties where the economics are 100% attributable to us. In the deals we've done since year-end, we've added 820,000 royalty ounces. That's an undiscounted value of over $4 billion at today's gold prices. Our average cost was $770 an ounce, a fraction of the cost you see in other transactions in the sector.
Paul Brink: We're delighted that their share price is up 50% in the couple of weeks since the transaction was announced. By making their shareholders successful, we believe we can open the eyes of the Australian markets to the power of our financing model. You will have seen in our asset handbook the term royalty ounces, representing NSR interests, streams, and royalties where the economics are 100% attributable to us. In the deals we've done since year-end, we've added 820,000 royalty ounces. That's an undiscounted value of over $4 billion at today's gold prices. Our average cost was $770 an ounce, a fraction of the cost you see in other transactions in the sector.
Speaker #3: By making their shareholders successful, we believe we can open the eyes of the Australian markets to the power of our financing model. You will have seen in our asset handbook the term royalty ounces, representing MINI resources in streams and royalties where the economics are 100% attributable to us.
Speaker #3: In the deals we've done since year-end, we've added $820,000 royalty ounces. That's an undiscounted value of over $4 billion at today's gold prices. Our average cost was $770 an ounce.
Speaker #3: A fraction of the cost you see in other transactions in the sector. We're committed to promoting sustainable mining, and we're delighted to have been named by the corporate knights in 2026 as one of the 100 most sustainable corporations globally.
Paul Brink: We're committed to promoting sustainable mining, and we're delighted to have been named by Corporate Knights in 2026 as one of the 100 most sustainable corporations globally. To wrap up, we're excited about the outlook for Franco-Nevada in 2026. With the industry's largest portfolio of gold royalties, no debt, $3.1 billion in available capital, we really are uniquely positioned to create further shareholder value. Over to you, Sandip.
Paul Brink: We're committed to promoting sustainable mining, and we're delighted to have been named by Corporate Knights in 2026 as one of the 100 most sustainable corporations globally. To wrap up, we're excited about the outlook for Franco-Nevada in 2026. With the industry's largest portfolio of gold royalties, no debt, $3.1 billion in available capital, we really are uniquely positioned to create further shareholder value. Over to you, Sandip.
Speaker #3: To wrap up, we're excited about the outlook for FRANCO NEVADA in 2026. With the industry's largest portfolio of gold royalties no debt, $3.1 billion in available capital, we really are a uniquely positioned to create further shareholder value.
Speaker #3: Over to you, Sandip.
Speaker #4: Great. Thanks very much, Paul. Good morning, everyone. As Paul mentioned, FRANCO NEVADA reported record financial results for fourth quarter and year-end in December 31st, 2025.
Sandip Rana: Great. Thanks very much, Paul. Good morning, everyone. As Paul mentioned, Franco-Nevada reported record financial results for Q4 and year-end of December 31, 2025. Our diverse portfolio of royalty and stream assets performed well and continued to benefit from higher precious metal prices. Slide 4 provides a recap of the company's performance against the revised guidance provided for the year. The updated guidance range was 495,000 to 525,000 total GEOs sold. Of this total, the company guided 420,000 to 440,000 precious metal GEOs, with the balance being from diversified assets. With strong performance from a number of assets during Q4, the company finished the year with 519,106 GEOs sold, which was near the top end of the guidance range.
Sandip Rana: Great. Thanks very much, Paul. Good morning, everyone. As Paul mentioned, Franco-Nevada reported record financial results for Q4 and year-end of December 31, 2025. Our diverse portfolio of royalty and stream assets performed well and continued to benefit from higher precious metal prices. Slide 4 provides a recap of the company's performance against the revised guidance provided for the year. The updated guidance range was 495,000 to 525,000 total GEOs sold. Of this total, the company guided 420,000 to 440,000 precious metal GEOs, with the balance being from diversified assets. With strong performance from a number of assets during Q4, the company finished the year with 519,106 GEOs sold, which was near the top end of the guidance range.
Speaker #4: Our diverse portfolio of royalty and stream assets performed well and continued to benefit from higher precious metal prices. Slide 4 provides a recap of the company's performance against the revised guidance provided for the year.
Speaker #4: The updated guidance range was $495,000 to $525,000 total GEO sold. Of this total, the company guided $420,000 to $440,000 precious metal GEOs, with the balance being from diversified assets.
Speaker #4: With strong performance from a number of assets during fourth quarter, the company finished the year with $519,106 GEOs sold. Which was near the top end of the guidance range.
Speaker #4: For precious metal GEOs, we slightly exceeded the top end of the range, with 440,140 GEOs sold. The diversified assets, which include our non-precious metal mining assets and energy assets, resulted in 78,966 GEOs sold for the year.
Sandip Rana: For precious metal GEOs, we slightly exceeded the top end of the range with 440,000, 140 GEOs sold. The diversified assets, which include our non-precious metal mining assets and energy assets, resulted in 78,966 GEOs sold for the year. On slide five, you will see a summary of commodity prices for Q4 and full year 2025 and 2024. Gold and silver prices increased significantly year-over-year, with the average gold price higher by 56% in the quarter. However, the two strongest performers during Q4 were silver and platinum, each up 75% and 74% respectively. The strong silver price performance resulted in a stronger gold/silver ratio, which benefited our silver assets, in particular Antamina, and also our Western Limb platinum stream, which benefited from stronger platinum price.
Sandip Rana: For precious metal GEOs, we slightly exceeded the top end of the range with 440,000, 140 GEOs sold. The diversified assets, which include our non-precious metal mining assets and energy assets, resulted in 78,966 GEOs sold for the year. On slide five, you will see a summary of commodity prices for Q4 and full year 2025 and 2024. Gold and silver prices increased significantly year-over-year, with the average gold price higher by 56% in the quarter. However, the two strongest performers during Q4 were silver and platinum, each up 75% and 74% respectively. The strong silver price performance resulted in a stronger gold/silver ratio, which benefited our silver assets, in particular Antamina, and also our Western Limb platinum stream, which benefited from stronger platinum price.
Speaker #4: On slide 5, you will see a summary of commodity prices for fourth quarter and full year 2025 and 2024. Gold and silver prices increased significantly year over year, with the average gold price higher by 56% in the quarter.
Speaker #4: However, the two strongest performers during fourth quarter were silver and platinum, each up 75% and 74% respectively. This strong silver price performance resulted in a stronger gold-silver ratio which benefited our silver assets in particular and Tamina and while our West and also our Western Limb platinum stream which benefited from stronger platinum price.
Speaker #4: For diversified commodities, prices for iron will remain essentially flat year over year. Oil was lower, but we saw a significant increase in natural gas prices year over year.
Sandip Rana: For diversified commodities, prices for iron ore remained essentially flat year-over-year. Oil was lower, but we saw a significant increase in natural gas prices year-over-year. The strong performance from our assets, combined with record gold and silver prices, resulted in record financial results for 2025, as seen on slide 6. Revenue was higher by 64%, adjusted EBITDA 74%, and adjusted net income 74%. This was also the case for Q4 as compared to prior year, as seen on slide 7. Total GEOs sold for the quarter increased 18% to 141,856, compared to 120,063 in Q4 2024. Precious metal GEOs sold in the quarter were 127,959, higher by 34% compared to prior year.
Sandip Rana: For diversified commodities, prices for iron ore remained essentially flat year-over-year. Oil was lower, but we saw a significant increase in natural gas prices year-over-year. The strong performance from our assets, combined with record gold and silver prices, resulted in record financial results for 2025, as seen on slide 6. Revenue was higher by 64%, adjusted EBITDA 74%, and adjusted net income 74%. This was also the case for Q4 as compared to prior year, as seen on slide 7. Total GEOs sold for the quarter increased 18% to 141,856, compared to 120,063 in Q4 2024. Precious metal GEOs sold in the quarter were 127,959, higher by 34% compared to prior year.
Speaker #4: The strong performance from our assets combined with record gold and silver prices resulted in record financial results, for 2025 as seen on slide 6.
Speaker #4: Revenue was higher by 64%, adjusted EBITDA by 74%, and adjusted net income by 74%. This was also the case for the fourth quarter as compared to the prior year, as seen on slide 7.
Speaker #4: Total GEOs sold for the quarter increased 18% to $141,856 compared to $120,063 in fourth quarter 2024. Precious metal GEOs sold in the quarter were $127,959, higher by 34% compared to prior year.
Speaker #4: 50% of total GEOs sold were sourced directly from mines where precious metals are the primary commodity. For the quarter, we received strong contributions from a number of key assets.
Sandip Rana: 50% of total GEOs sold were sourced directly from mines where precious metals are the primary commodity. For the quarter, we received strong contributions from a number of key assets. Antamina, where we benefited from both higher deliveries, as Q4 was the highest delivery period during the year, and also benefiting from higher silver price when converting to GEOs. Both Guadalupe and Antapaccay had strong production quarters. At Hemlo, we benefited from the leverage that net profit interest provide. As you know, the Hemlo NPI is difficult to forecast, as it depends on how much mining is performed on Franco-Nevada's Interlake lands. During Q4, we benefited from both higher production on our lands as well as higher margin per ounce with the rising gold price.
Sandip Rana: 50% of total GEOs sold were sourced directly from mines where precious metals are the primary commodity. For the quarter, we received strong contributions from a number of key assets. Antamina, where we benefited from both higher deliveries, as Q4 was the highest delivery period during the year, and also benefiting from higher silver price when converting to GEOs. Both Guadalupe and Antapaccay had strong production quarters. At Hemlo, we benefited from the leverage that net profit interest provide. As you know, the Hemlo NPI is difficult to forecast, as it depends on how much mining is performed on Franco-Nevada's Interlake lands. During Q4, we benefited from both higher production on our lands as well as higher margin per ounce with the rising gold price.
Speaker #4: And Tamina, where we benefited from both higher deliveries, as the fourth quarter was the highest delivery period during the year, and also benefited from higher silver price when converting to GEOs.
Speaker #4: Both Guadalupe Bay and Antipacay had strong production quarters. And at Hemlo, we benefited from the leverage that net profit interest provide. As you know, the Hemlo MPI is difficult to forecast as it depends on how much mining is performed on FRANCO NEVADA's interlake lands.
Speaker #4: During fourth quarter, we benefited from both higher production on our lands as well as higher margin per ounce with the rising gold price. In addition to the strong performance from those assets mentioned, we benefited from asset acquisitions that were new contributors to FRANCO NEVADA during fourth quarter.
Sandip Rana: In addition to the strong performance from those assets mentioned, we benefited from asset acquisitions that were new contributors to Franco-Nevada during Q4, Western Limb, Porcupine, and Coté. Diversified geos sold were 13,697 for the quarter, compared to 24,498 for prior year. This was partially due to lower diversified revenue than prior year, but the larger impact for the reduction in geos sold is due to the impact of higher gold prices when converting revenue to geos. As you can see from the chart, total revenue increased by 86% for the quarter to $597.3 million, which is a record for Franco-Nevada. Precious metals accounted for 90% of revenue.
Sandip Rana: In addition to the strong performance from those assets mentioned, we benefited from asset acquisitions that were new contributors to Franco-Nevada during Q4, Western Limb, Porcupine, and Coté. Diversified geos sold were 13,697 for the quarter, compared to 24,498 for prior year. This was partially due to lower diversified revenue than prior year, but the larger impact for the reduction in geos sold is due to the impact of higher gold prices when converting revenue to geos. As you can see from the chart, total revenue increased by 86% for the quarter to $597.3 million, which is a record for Franco-Nevada. Precious metals accounted for 90% of revenue.
Speaker #4: Western Limb, porcupine, and Côté. Diversified GEOs sold were $13,697 for the quarter, compared to $24,498 for the prior year. This was partially due to lower diversified revenue than the prior year.
Speaker #4: But the larger impact for the reduction in GEOs sold is due to the impact of higher gold prices when converting revenue to GEOs. As you can see from the chart, total revenue increased by 86% for the quarter to $597.3 million, which is a record for Franco-Nevada.
Speaker #4: Precious metals accounted for 90% of revenue. Adjusted EBITDA also a record was 95% higher for the quarter at $541.2 million, compared to $277.4 million in fourth quarter 2024.
Sandip Rana: Adjusted EBITDA, also a record, was 95% higher for the quarter at $541.2 million, compared to $277.4 million in Q4 2024. With respect to cost, we did have an increase in cost of sales compared to Q4 2024 due to higher stream ounces sold. Depletion increased to $87.3 million versus $60 million a year ago, as we received more GEOs from Antapaccay and Antamina and began depleting our recent transactions, Yanacocha, Western Limb, Porcupine, and Coté. These assets are higher per ounce depletion assets. Finally, adjusted net income was $356.2 million, or $1.85 per share for the quarter, both up 94% versus prior year. Slide 8 highlights the continued diversification of the portfolio.
Sandip Rana: Adjusted EBITDA, also a record, was 95% higher for the quarter at $541.2 million, compared to $277.4 million in Q4 2024. With respect to cost, we did have an increase in cost of sales compared to Q4 2024 due to higher stream ounces sold. Depletion increased to $87.3 million versus $60 million a year ago, as we received more GEOs from Antapaccay and Antamina and began depleting our recent transactions, Yanacocha, Western Limb, Porcupine, and Coté. These assets are higher per ounce depletion assets. Finally, adjusted net income was $356.2 million, or $1.85 per share for the quarter, both up 94% versus prior year. Slide 8 highlights the continued diversification of the portfolio.
Speaker #4: With respect to cost, we did have an increase in cost to sales compared to Q4 2024 due to higher stream ounces sold. Depletion increased to $87.3 million versus $60 million a year ago.
Speaker #4: As we received more GEOs from Antipacay and Antimina, and began depleting our recent transactions, Yanacocha, Western Limb, porcupine, and cote. These assets are higher per ounce depletion assets.
Speaker #4: Finally, adjusted net income was $356.2 million, or $1.85 per share for the quarter, both up 94% versus the prior year. Slide 8 highlights the continued diversification of the portfolio.
Speaker #4: 85% of our full year 2025 revenue was generated by precious metals, with revenue being sourced 88% from the Americas. No one asset generates more than 13% of revenue as we have one of the most diverse portfolios in the industry.
Sandip Rana: 85% of our full year 2025 revenue was generated by precious metals, with revenue being sourced 88% from the Americas. No one asset generates more than 13% of revenue, as we have one of the most diverse portfolios in the industry. Slide 9 illustrates the strength of our business model to continue to generate high margins. As you can see over the last number of years, as the gold price has increased, our margin per geo has remained fairly constant. The cash cost per geo has increased from $242 in 2020 to $325 per geo in 2025. A 34% increase over this five-year period. However, the margin has increased from $1,528 per geo in 2020 to $3,110 per geo in 2025.
Sandip Rana: 85% of our full year 2025 revenue was generated by precious metals, with revenue being sourced 88% from the Americas. No one asset generates more than 13% of revenue, as we have one of the most diverse portfolios in the industry. Slide 9 illustrates the strength of our business model to continue to generate high margins. As you can see over the last number of years, as the gold price has increased, our margin per geo has remained fairly constant. The cash cost per geo has increased from $242 in 2020 to $325 per geo in 2025. A 34% increase over this five-year period. However, the margin has increased from $1,528 per geo in 2020 to $3,110 per geo in 2025.
Speaker #4: Slide 9 illustrates the strength of our business model to continue to generate high margins. As you can see over the last number of years as the gold prices increased, our margin per GEO has remained fairly constant.
Speaker #4: The cash cost per GEO has increased from $242 in 2020 to $325 per GEO in 2025, a 34% increase over this five-year period. However, the margin has increased from $1,528 per GEO in 2020 to $3,110 per GEO in 2025, a 204% increase, while during this period the average gold price increased 194%.
Sandip Rana: A 204% increase, while during this period, the average gold price increased 194%. Our business model is very profitable, as royalties and streams are usually top-line revenue interests with either no cost or a fixed payment associated. As a result, as seen on slide 10, our Adjusted EBITDA margin for 2025 was 91%. When accounting for depletion, taxes, and other costs, our adjusted net income margin was 59%. As we look forward, slide 11 summarizes our GEO sold guidance for 2026. Beginning in 2026, we will be adopting a fixed GEO conversion ratios based on the pricing assumptions that you see on the slide. This methodology replaces our previous variable GEO conversion ratios based on actual average commodity prices and is intended to make our GEO guidance better reflect production volumes.
Sandip Rana: A 204% increase, while during this period, the average gold price increased 194%. Our business model is very profitable, as royalties and streams are usually top-line revenue interests with either no cost or a fixed payment associated. As a result, as seen on slide 10, our Adjusted EBITDA margin for 2025 was 91%. When accounting for depletion, taxes, and other costs, our adjusted net income margin was 59%. As we look forward, slide 11 summarizes our GEO sold guidance for 2026. Beginning in 2026, we will be adopting a fixed GEO conversion ratios based on the pricing assumptions that you see on the slide. This methodology replaces our previous variable GEO conversion ratios based on actual average commodity prices and is intended to make our GEO guidance better reflect production volumes.
Speaker #4: Our business model is very profitable as royalties and streams are usually top-line revenue interests, with either no cost or a fixed payment associated. As a result, as seen on slide 10, our adjusted EBITDA margin for 2025 was 91%.
Speaker #4: And when accounting for depletion and taxes, and other costs, our adjusted net income margin was 59%. As we look forward, slide 11 summarizes our GEOs sold guidance for 2026.
Speaker #4: Beginning in 2026, we will be adopting a fixed GEO conversion ratio based on the pricing assumptions as you see on the slide. This methodology replaces our previous variable GEO conversion ratio based on actual average commodity prices.
Speaker #4: And is intended to make our GEO guidance better reflect production volumes. Our total GEOs sold are expected to range from $510,000 to $570,000 ounces, with 90% from precious metals and 10% from our diversified assets.
Sandip Rana: Our total GEO sold are expected to range from 510,000 to 570,000 ounces, with 90% from precious metals and 10% from our diversified assets. As you can see, we have provided guidance ranges for gold, silver, and PGM ounces, and for diversified assets, we are providing a revenue range. The main drivers for the GEO sold increase year over year are, for precious metals, we will be benefiting from full year contributions from a number of assets, both acquisitions and new mine starts. Côté Gold, Porcupine, Casa Berardi, i-80, and Valentine Lake. We will continue to benefit from the ramp-up of new mines that began production over the last couple of years, Greenstone and Salares Norte. Please note that we have not assumed any contributions from Cobre Panamá.
Sandip Rana: Our total GEO sold are expected to range from 510,000 to 570,000 ounces, with 90% from precious metals and 10% from our diversified assets. As you can see, we have provided guidance ranges for gold, silver, and PGM ounces, and for diversified assets, we are providing a revenue range. The main drivers for the GEO sold increase year over year are, for precious metals, we will be benefiting from full year contributions from a number of assets, both acquisitions and new mine starts. Côté Gold, Porcupine, Casa Berardi, i-80, and Valentine Lake. We will continue to benefit from the ramp-up of new mines that began production over the last couple of years, Greenstone and Salares Norte. Please note that we have not assumed any contributions from Cobre Panamá.
Speaker #4: As you can see, we have provided guidance ranges for gold, silver, and PGM ounces and for diversified assets, we are providing a revenue range.
Speaker #4: The main drivers for the GEOs sold increase year over year are for precious metals. We will be benefiting from full-year contributions from a number of assets, both acquisitions and new mine starts.
Speaker #4: Cote gold, porcupine, castle berardi, I-80, and Valentine Lake. And we will continue to benefit from the ramp-up of new mines that began production over the last couple of years.
Speaker #4: Greenstone and Solaris Norte. Please note that we have not assumed any contributions from Cobre Panama. First Quantum has stated that they are awaiting formal approval to process stockpiled ore which would produce approximately 70,000 tons of copper and result in stream deliveries to FRANCO NEVADA of approximately $23 ounces of gold and $265,000 ounces of silver.
Sandip Rana: First Quantum has stated that they are awaiting formal approval to process stockpiled ore, which would produce approximately 70,000 tons of copper and result in stream deliveries to Franco-Nevada of approximately 23 ounces of gold and 265,000 ounces of silver. Timing of deliveries would be dependent on when formal approval is received. Also on the slide, we've provided guidance for depletion, tax, and funding commitments. Slide 12 illustrates our outlook for 2030, which is 555,000 to 615,000 GEOs sold. Main contributors will be contributions from new mines, Stibnite Gold, Copper World, Eskay Creek, Taske Bell, and Takatuka. Contributions from expansions that are either underway or planned, Antapaccay, Coroccohuayco, Magino, Detour Lake, and Castle Mountain.
Sandip Rana: First Quantum has stated that they are awaiting formal approval to process stockpiled ore, which would produce approximately 70,000 tons of copper and result in stream deliveries to Franco-Nevada of approximately 23 ounces of gold and 265,000 ounces of silver. Timing of deliveries would be dependent on when formal approval is received. Also on the slide, we've provided guidance for depletion, tax, and funding commitments. Slide 12 illustrates our outlook for 2030, which is 555,000 to 615,000 GEOs sold. Main contributors will be contributions from new mines, Stibnite Gold, Copper World, Eskay Creek, Taske Bell, and Takatuka. Contributions from expansions that are either underway or planned, Antapaccay, Coroccohuayco, Magino, Detour Lake, and Castle Mountain.
Speaker #4: Timing of deliveries would be dependent on when formal approval is received. Also on the slide, we've provided guidance for depletion, tax, and funding commitments.
Speaker #4: Slide 12 illustrates our outlook for 2030, which is $555,000 to $615,000 GEOs sold. Main contributors will be contributions from new mines, Stibnite Gold, Copper World, SK Cree, Cascobel, and Takataka.
Speaker #4: Contributions from expansions that are either underway or planned, Antipacay, Coracoico, Mageno, Detour Lake, and Castle Mountain. We do anticipate a step down in deliveries at Candelaria in the second half of 2027 and at Antipacay in the second half of 2028.
Sandip Rana: We do anticipate a step down in deliveries at Candelaria in the second half of 2027 and at Antapaccay in the second half of 2028. For the energy assets, we've assumed an increase in production over the next 5 years, resulting in an increase in GEOs, but have kept commodity prices flat at $70 a barrel WTI and $3 MCF natural gas. Overall, when you look at the outlook for GEOs sold, the company has approximately 13% built-in organic growth from 2025 to 2030 at budgeted commodity prices, excluding Cobre Panama. Cobre Panama is a large growth driver if the mine were to restart. Should production restart, there's the potential for materially higher GEOs, depending on the conditions of the restart.
Sandip Rana: We do anticipate a step down in deliveries at Candelaria in the second half of 2027 and at Antapaccay in the second half of 2028. For the energy assets, we've assumed an increase in production over the next 5 years, resulting in an increase in GEOs, but have kept commodity prices flat at $70 a barrel WTI and $3 MCF natural gas. Overall, when you look at the outlook for GEOs sold, the company has approximately 13% built-in organic growth from 2025 to 2030 at budgeted commodity prices, excluding Cobre Panama. Cobre Panama is a large growth driver if the mine were to restart. Should production restart, there's the potential for materially higher GEOs, depending on the conditions of the restart.
Speaker #4: For the energy assets, we've assumed an increase in production over the next five years, resulting in an increase in GEOs, but have kept commodity prices flat at $70 a barrel WTI and $3 MCF natural gas.
Speaker #4: Overall, when you look at the outlook for GEOs sold, the company has approximately 13% built-in organic growth from 25 to 2030 at budgeted commodity prices, excluding Cobre Panama.
Speaker #4: Cobre Panama is a large growth driver if the mine were to restart. Should production restart, there's the potential for maturely higher GEOs depending on the conditions of the restart.
Speaker #4: Based on the average of the next five years of the Cobre Panama mine plan, the stream could contribute between $150,000 to $175,000 GEOs to FRANCO NEVADA per year.
Sandip Rana: Based on the average of the next five years of the Cobre Panamá mine plan, the stream could contribute between 150,000 to 175,000 GEOs to Franco-Nevada per year. With a Cobre Panamá restart, the company has approximately 45% built-in growth to 2030. As we look past 2030, Franco-Nevada has a very deep portfolio of assets that should begin to contribute meaningfully over time. I won't go into the specific details as shown on slide 13, but overall, these assets have the potential to generate over 220,000 GEOs to Franco-Nevada over time. Each asset is a different stage of development. When looking at this group of assets as a whole, they contain approximately 6 million measured and indicated and 1.7 million inferred royalty ounces.
Sandip Rana: Based on the average of the next five years of the Cobre Panamá mine plan, the stream could contribute between 150,000 to 175,000 GEOs to Franco-Nevada per year. With a Cobre Panamá restart, the company has approximately 45% built-in growth to 2030. As we look past 2030, Franco-Nevada has a very deep portfolio of assets that should begin to contribute meaningfully over time. I won't go into the specific details as shown on slide 13, but overall, these assets have the potential to generate over 220,000 GEOs to Franco-Nevada over time. Each asset is a different stage of development. When looking at this group of assets as a whole, they contain approximately 6 million measured and indicated and 1.7 million inferred royalty ounces.
Speaker #4: With a Cobre Panama restart, the company has approximately $45% built-in growth to 2030. As we look past 2030, FRANCO NEVADA has a very deep portfolio of assets.
Speaker #4: That should begin to contribute meaningfully over time. I won't go into the specific details as shown on slide 13, but overall, these assets have the potential to generate over $220,000 GEOs to FRANCO NEVADA over time.
Speaker #4: Each asset is a different stage of development. And when looking at this group of assets as a whole, they contain approximately $6 million measured and indicated and $1.7 million inferred royalty ounces.
Speaker #4: A royalty ounce is net of any costs such as stream costs, so it represents 100% cash flow to FRANCO NEVADA before taxes. But even beyond that, we have not included any upside from over $230 expiration assets, which provide additional optionality and in this price environment, we are seeing expiration drilling increasing on our lands.
Sandip Rana: A royalty ounce is net of any cost such as stream cost, so it represents 100% cash flow to Franco-Nevada before taxes. Even beyond that, we have not included any upside from over 230 exploration assets, which provide additional optionality. In this price environment, we are seeing exploration drilling increasing on our lands. We look forward to seeing what positive news is released on some of these options over time. With that, I will pass it over to Ian, who will highlight the recent new additions to the portfolio.
Sandip Rana: A royalty ounce is net of any cost such as stream cost, so it represents 100% cash flow to Franco-Nevada before taxes. Even beyond that, we have not included any upside from over 230 exploration assets, which provide additional optionality. In this price environment, we are seeing exploration drilling increasing on our lands. We look forward to seeing what positive news is released on some of these options over time. With that, I will pass it over to Ian, who will highlight the recent new additions to the portfolio.
Speaker #4: We look forward to seeing what positive news is released on some of these options over time. And with that, I will pass it over to Ian, who will highlight the recent new additions to the portfolio.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Sandy. It's been an exciting year so far, as we've delivered meaningful growth with several large acquisitions in key gold mining districts. This growth has come at a low cost per ounce of resource, which Paul highlighted earlier.
Eaun Gray: Thank you, Sandip. It's been an exciting year so far as we've delivered meaningful growth with several large acquisitions in key gold mining districts. This growth has come at a low cost per ounce of resource, which Paul highlighted earlier. Starting with our Casa Berardi stream, we were delighted to support Patrick Downey and his team in the acquisition of this established producer in Quebec. We have confidence in Patrick and his team to execute their plans and in particular are excited by the increased exploration the property will now receive. For too long, this project has been underloved. With an extensive land package and deep cover, our team sees great promise to extend mine life and increase grades. Similar to our investment with Discovery, we see focused management as key to the success of this mine, and is now in place, so the future should be bright.
Eaun Gray: Thank you, Sandip. It's been an exciting year so far as we've delivered meaningful growth with several large acquisitions in key gold mining districts. This growth has come at a low cost per ounce of resource, which Paul highlighted earlier. Starting with our Casa Berardi stream, we were delighted to support Patrick Downey and his team in the acquisition of this established producer in Quebec.
Speaker #2: Starting with our Castle Berardi stream, we were delighted to support Patty Downey and his team in the acquisition of this established producer. In Quebec.
Speaker #2: We have confidence in Patty and his team to execute their plans and in particular, are excited by the increased exploration of the property we'll now receive.
Eaun Gray: We have confidence in Patrick and his team to execute their plans and in particular are excited by the increased exploration the property will now receive. For too long, this project has been underloved. With an extensive land package and deep cover, our team sees great promise to extend mine life and increase grades. Similar to our investment with Discovery, we see focused management as key to the success of this mine, and is now in place, so the future should be bright.
Speaker #2: For too long, this project has been underloved. But the extensive land package and deep cover our team sees hold great promise to extend mine life and increase grades.
Speaker #2: Similar to our investment with Discovery, we see focused management as key to the success of this mine. And it is now in place, so the future should be bright.
Speaker #2: We're also excited to have completed a financing with I-80 in February. This is the third financing we've completed with Richard Young and his team, speaking to the strength of that relationship.
Eaun Gray: We're also excited to have completed a financing with i-80 in February. This is the third financing we've completed with Richard Young and his team, speaking to the strength of that relationship. We structured this royalty to dovetail with the company's growth plans with a step up to 3% in 2031. The royalty covers all of the precious metals assets and over 200 sq km of key gold trends in Nevada, our namesake. We'll see cash flow starting immediately with Granite Creek, expanding with Archimedes, and ramping up with the development of Mineral Point, which we envisage as a large-scale project. A significant portion of the financing is earmarked for acceleration of development at all three. Finally, I'd like to briefly touch on our first sizable acquisition in Australia for some time, the Bullabulling royalty.
Eaun Gray: We're also excited to have completed a financing with i-80 in February. This is the third financing we've completed with Richard Young and his team, speaking to the strength of that relationship. We structured this royalty to dovetail with the company's growth plans with a step up to 3% in 2031. The royalty covers all of the precious metals assets and over 200 sq km of key gold trends in Nevada, our namesake. We'll see cash flow starting immediately with Granite Creek, expanding with Archimedes, and ramping up with the development of Mineral Point, which we envisage as a large-scale project. A significant portion of the financing is earmarked for acceleration of development at all three. Finally, I'd like to briefly touch on our first sizable acquisition in Australia for some time, the Bullabulling royalty.
Speaker #2: We structured this royalty to dovetail with the company's growth plans with a step up to 3% in 2031. The royalty covers all of the precious metals assets and over $200 square kilometers of key gold trends in Nevada, our namesake.
Speaker #2: We'll see cash flow starting immediately with Granite Creek expanding with Archimedes and ramping up with the development of Mineral Point, which we envisage as a large-scale project.
Speaker #2: A significant portion of the financing is earmarked for acceleration of development at all three. Finally, I'd like to briefly touch on our first sizable acquisition in Australia for some time, the Bull Bowling Royalty.
Speaker #2: We historically have held a royalty on a portion of the deposit but with the renewed focus on the asset-by-minerals 260, we quickly realized the larger potential of this project, which is a short distance from Cal Gorley, a key gold-producing region.
Eaun Gray: We historically have held a royalty on a portion of the deposit, but with the renewed focus on the asset by Minerals 260, we quickly realized the larger potential of this project, which is a short distance from Kalgoorlie, a key gold-producing region. We're delighted, as Paul said, to be working with Tim Goyder and Luke McFadyen, who lead the team at Minerals 260. We expect a PFS in the next few months, which should better define the project parameters for the market. The expanded resource has already been published, but extensive drilling has since been completed and will continue. Given the brownfield nature of the project in a well-established historical mining area, we see a rapid path to production with meaningful contribution to our Australian business. To conclude, I would highlight that we're debt-free with significant cash flow generation, which positions us well for continued acquisitive growth.
Eaun Gray: We historically have held a royalty on a portion of the deposit, but with the renewed focus on the asset by Minerals 260, we quickly realized the larger potential of this project, which is a short distance from Kalgoorlie, a key gold-producing region. We're delighted, as Paul said, to be working with Tim Goyder and Luke McFadyen, who lead the team at Minerals 260. We expect a PFS in the next few months, which should better define the project parameters for the market.
Speaker #2: We're delighted, as Paul said, to be working with Tim Goiter and Luke McFadden, who lead the team at Minerals 260. We expect the PFS in the next few months, which should better define the project parameters for the market.
Eaun Gray: The expanded resource has already been published, but extensive drilling has since been completed and will continue. Given the brownfield nature of the project in a well-established historical mining area, we see a rapid path to production with meaningful contribution to our Australian business. To conclude, I would highlight that we're debt-free with significant cash flow generation, which positions us well for continued acquisitive growth. With that, I'll hand it over to the operator for any questions.
Speaker #2: The expanded resources already been published, but extensive drilling has since been completed and will continue. Given the brownfield nature of the project and a well-established historical mining area, we see a rapid path to production with meaningful contribution to our Australian business.
Speaker #2: To conclude, I would highlight that we're debt-free with significant cash flow generation, which positions us well for continued acquisitive growth. With that, I'll hand it over to the operator for any questions.
Eaun Gray: With that, I'll hand it over to the operator for any questions.
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Speaker #3: First question comes from Josh Wilson with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Yeah, thank you very much. The first question is just on South Arturo. Very strong results in the fourth quarter. I'm wondering if you can provide any more information on expectations for 2026 and if that's assumed as well for 2030.
Josh Wolfson: Yeah. Thank you very much. The first question is just on South Arturo, very strong results in Q4. I'm wondering if you can provide any more information on expectations for 2026 and if that's assumed as well for 2030.
Josh Wolfson: Yeah. Thank you very much. The first question is just on South Arturo, very strong results in Q4. I'm wondering if you can provide any more information on expectations for 2026 and if that's assumed as well for 2030.
Speaker #2: Sure. Josh Sandy here. Yeah, no South Arturo was very strong performer in the quarter. They are mining the open pit ahead of schedule. It's going to carry on into 2026, so 2026 should be a strong year.
Sandip Rana: Sure. Josh, Sandip here. Yeah, no, South Arturo was a very strong performer in the quarter. They are mining the open pit ahead of schedule. It's gonna carry on into 2026, so 2026 should be a strong year. And from what we've seen in the first part of this year, it is occurring. But starting in 2027, we do see it falling back off. It's really a 2026 benefit with minimal for 2030.
Sandip Rana: Sure. Josh, Sandip here. Yeah, no, South Arturo was a very strong performer in the quarter. They are mining the open pit ahead of schedule. It's gonna carry on into 2026, so 2026 should be a strong year. And from what we've seen in the first part of this year, it is occurring. But starting in 2027, we do see it falling back off. It's really a 2026 benefit with minimal for 2030.
Speaker #2: And from what we've seen in the first part of this year, it is occurring. But starting in 2027, we do see it falling back off.
Speaker #2: So, it's really a 2026 benefit with minimal for 2030.
Speaker #4: Okay. And then the minimum deliveries still apply for 2027, correct?
Josh Wolfson: Okay. The minimum deliveries still apply for 2027, correct?
Josh Wolfson: Okay. The minimum deliveries still apply for 2027, correct?
Speaker #2: Yes, correct.
Sandip Rana: Yes, correct.
Sandip Rana: Yes, correct.
Speaker #4: Got it. Thank you. For Cascabel, a couple of questions there. I mean, first is for the stream buyback, should we assume that that assuming it's the gold payable that's going to be received, should we assume that that's reflected in production for guidance?
Josh Wolfson: Got it. Thank you. For Cascabel, a couple questions there. I mean, first is for the stream buyback, should we assume that assuming it's the gold payable that's gonna be received, should we assume that that's reflected in production for guidance? Then similarly for 2030, is there any additional disclosure the team can provide in terms of what the production volumes are there?
Josh Wolfson: Got it. Thank you. For Cascabel, a couple questions there. I mean, first is for the stream buyback, should we assume that assuming it's the gold payable that's gonna be received, should we assume that that's reflected in production for guidance? Then similarly for 2030, is there any additional disclosure the team can provide in terms of what the production volumes are there?
Speaker #4: And then, similarly for 2030, is there any additional disclosure the team can provide in terms of what the production volumes are there?
Speaker #2: Sure. So for the buyback on the stream, we are receiving ounces. Those ounces are not included in our guidance at this stage. We have been notified they will be delivering geodes for the roughly 40 million dollar buyback that's been calculated.
Sandip Rana: Sure. So for the buyback on the screen, we are receiving ounces. Those ounces are not included in our guidance at this stage. We have been notified they will be delivering GEOs for the roughly $40 million buyback that's been calculated. But as I said, it's not in our guidance. We're still working on how to account for that buyback. As we decide, we'll provide additional disclosure. As for 2030, Cascabel mine start is in our outlook, and it's probably a range between 15,000 to 20,000 GEOs.
Sandip Rana: Sure. So for the buyback on the screen, we are receiving ounces. Those ounces are not included in our guidance at this stage. We have been notified they will be delivering GEOs for the roughly $40 million buyback that's been calculated. But as I said, it's not in our guidance. We're still working on how to account for that buyback. As we decide, we'll provide additional disclosure. As for 2030, Cascabel mine start is in our outlook, and it's probably a range between 15,000 to 20,000 GEOs.
Speaker #2: But as I said, it's not in our guidance. We're still working on how to account for that buyback. And as we decide that, we'll provide additional disclosure.
Speaker #2: As for 2030 Cascabel, Minestart is in our outlook. And it's probably a range between 15 to 20 thousand geodes.
Speaker #4: Got it. Thank you very much. And then one last question just on muscle white. Very strong quarter there reported previously by the operator. It looks like the NPI didn't pay out as high as expected.
Josh Wolfson: Got it. Thank you very much. One last question, just on Musselwhite. You know, very strong quarter there reported previously by the operator. It looks like the NPI didn't pay out as high as expected. Is that something we should expect to occur, I guess, as a true up in 2026, or is there something more we should be aware about?
Josh Wolfson: Got it. Thank you very much. One last question, just on Musselwhite. You know, very strong quarter there reported previously by the operator. It looks like the NPI didn't pay out as high as expected. Is that something we should expect to occur, I guess, as a true up in 2026, or is there something more we should be aware about?
Speaker #4: Is that something we should expect to occur, I guess, as a true-up in 2026, or is there something more we should be aware about?
Sandip Rana: Yes, Orla did report very strong Q4. We do not have an estimate of the NPI at this stage. As you know, one of the major deductions is capital. We made an accrual. Once we get the actual number from Orla, we will make an adjustment. In all likelihood, it will be a true-up, but as to the quantum, unknown at this time.
Speaker #2: So yes, Orla did report a very strong Q4. We do not have an estimate of the NPI at this stage. And as you know, one of the major deductions is capital.
Sandip Rana: Yes, Orla did report very strong Q4. We do not have an estimate of the NPI at this stage. As you know, one of the major deductions is capital. We made an accrual. Once we get the actual number from Orla, we will make an adjustment. In all likelihood, it will be a true-up, but as to the quantum, unknown at this time.
Speaker #2: So we made an accrual once we get the actual number from Orla. We will make an adjustment in all likelihood. It will be a true-up, but as to the quantum, unknown at this time.
Speaker #4: All right. Great. Thank you very much.
Josh Wolfson: All right. Great. Thank you very much.
Josh Wolfson: All right. Great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #3: Thank you. The next question comes from Larry Liu with CIBC. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Larry Liu with CIBC. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Larry Liu with CIBC. Please go ahead.
Larry Liu: Hi, Paul, Sandip, and Ian, for taking my question today. I guess my first question would be on energy prices. If we look at the 2026 guidance, oil is calculated using $70 a barrel. Because of recent events, we've seen the oil price strengthen. I'm wondering if you can give us a little more sensitivity around how that would impact Franco-Nevada. As you know, Franco-Nevada is one of few, if not the only, royalty company that has exposure to energy.
Larry Liu: Hi, Paul, Sandip, and Ian, for taking my question today. I guess my first question would be on energy prices. If we look at the 2026 guidance, oil is calculated using $70 a barrel. Because of recent events, we've seen the oil price strengthen. I'm wondering if you can give us a little more sensitivity around how that would impact Franco-Nevada. As you know, Franco-Nevada is one of few, if not the only, royalty company that has exposure to energy.
Speaker #5: Hi, Paul Sandip and Ian for taking my question today. I guess my first question would be on energy prices. So if we look at the 2026 guidance, oil is calculated using $70 a barrel.
Speaker #5: Because of recent events, we've seen the oil price strengthen. So I'm wondering if you can give us a little more sensitivity around how that would impact Franco-Nevada, as you know, Franco is one of the few, if not the only, royalty companies that has exposure to energy.
Sandip Rana: Sure. Hi, Larry. So as you're correct, we use $70 per barrel WTI in preparing our guidance. A $5 increase in the WTI price is essentially a 7% increase in energy revenue.
Speaker #2: Sure. Hi, Larry. So as you're correct, we use $70 per barrel WTI in preparing our guidance. A $5 increase in the WTI price is essentially a 7% increase in energy revenue.
Sandip Rana: Sure. Hi, Larry. So as you're correct, we use $70 per barrel WTI in preparing our guidance. A $5 increase in the WTI price is essentially a 7% increase in energy revenue.
Larry Liu: Perfect. Sounds good. Thanks, Sandip. I guess on a similar topic, now that we're looking more towards unlocking value of the portfolio, I kind of wanna ask about Cobre Panamá. From that perspective, I'm wondering what's the next step after the environmental audit conclude. When should we expect a potential decision from the government? Is that something you can share with us? How long does it take for the asset to ramp up and deliveries to restart for Franco-Nevada?
Larry Liu: Perfect. Sounds good. Thanks, Sandip. I guess on a similar topic, now that we're looking more towards unlocking value of the portfolio, I kind of wanna ask about Cobre Panamá. From that perspective, I'm wondering what's the next step after the environmental audit conclude. When should we expect a potential decision from the government? Is that something you can share with us? How long does it take for the asset to ramp up and deliveries to restart for Franco-Nevada?
Speaker #5: Perfect. Sounds good. Thanks, Sandip. And I guess on the similar topic, now that we're looking more towards unlocking value of the portfolio, I kind of want to ask about COPRA Panama.
Speaker #5: So from that perspective, I'm wondering what's the next step after the environmental audit conclude? When should we expect a potential decision from the government?
Speaker #5: Is that something you can share with us? And how long does it take for the asset to ramp up and deliveries to restart for Franco?
Paul Brink: Thanks for the question. The best information that's out there was the government themselves, President Mulino saying his target is this summit to try and have a resolution on the issue. Hopefully that something can be achieved in that sort of timeline. In terms of a ramp-up, my understanding is, you know, once you've got a go decision, that it would be roughly 6 months to get to 50% of production and 12 months to get to about 90%. Although, if the company is allowed to go ahead with the processing of stockpiles, that does allow them to operationalize. They're already increasing their workforce. It would allow them to start at least one of the trains, the mill trains. I expect that could accelerate the ramp-up timeline.
Speaker #2: Thanks for the question. The best information that's out there was the government themselves, President Molino saying his target is the summit to try and have a resolution on the issue.
Paul Brink: Thanks for the question. The best information that's out there was the government themselves, President Mulino saying his target is this summit to try and have a resolution on the issue. Hopefully that something can be achieved in that sort of timeline. In terms of a ramp-up, my understanding is, you know, once you've got a go decision, that it would be roughly 6 months to get to 50% of production and 12 months to get to about 90%. Although, if the company is allowed to go ahead with the processing of stockpiles, that does allow them to operationalize. They're already increasing their workforce. It would allow them to start at least one of the trains, the mill trains. I expect that could accelerate the ramp-up timeline.
Speaker #2: So, he'll pull that something can be achieved in that sort of timeline. In terms of a ramp-up, my understanding is that once you've got a gold decision, it would be roughly six months to get to 50% of production and twelve months to get to about 90%.
Speaker #2: Although the if company is allowed to go ahead with the processing of stockpiles, that does allow them to operationalize. They're already increasing their workforce.
Speaker #2: It would allow them to start at least one of the trains, the mill trains. So I expect that could accelerate the ramp-up timeline.
Larry Liu: Perfect. Sounds good, Paul. I guess I have just one last question, if that's okay, is I wanna ask about the balance sheet. Franco currently holds about $1.1 billion in publicly traded equity investments, and that's a significant increase from just $770 million in Q3. I'm wondering, what would be strategic positioning for the publicly traded equity investments? Could that be a potential source of liquidity? How should we look at it?
Larry Liu: Perfect. Sounds good, Paul. I guess I have just one last question, if that's okay, is I wanna ask about the balance sheet. Franco currently holds about $1.1 billion in publicly traded equity investments, and that's a significant increase from just $770 million in Q3. I'm wondering, what would be strategic positioning for the publicly traded equity investments? Could that be a potential source of liquidity? How should we look at it?
Speaker #5: Perfect. Sounds good, Paul. I guess I have just one last question, if that's okay. I want to ask about the balance sheet. So, Franco currently holds about $1.1 billion in publicly traded equity investments.
Speaker #5: And that's a significant increase from just 770 million in Q3. So I'm wondering what would be strategic positioning for the public traded equity investments?
Speaker #5: Could that be a potential source of liquidity? How should we look at it?
Paul Brink: The large part of those equities are shares that we obtained in supporting G Mining and Discovery Silver. Our intent is to be their financial backers. We want the market to know that we're in those stories, so we intend to be long-term holders of their stock. At the same time, if there are good opportunities, if we have got good returns, there is the potential that we'll take some money off the table. We are long-term investors. You know, principally we're there just to realize the value that we think both teams can add in their companies.
Paul Brink: The large part of those equities are shares that we obtained in supporting G Mining and Discovery Silver. Our intent is to be their financial backers. We want the market to know that we're in those stories, so we intend to be long-term holders of their stock. At the same time, if there are good opportunities, if we have got good returns, there is the potential that we'll take some money off the table. We are long-term investors. You know, principally we're there just to realize the value that we think both teams can add in their companies.
Speaker #2: So, the large part of those equities are shares that we obtained in supporting GMN and Discovery Silver. Our intent is to be their financial backers.
Speaker #2: I want the market to know that we're in those stories. So we intend to be long-term holders of their stock. But at the same time, if there are good opportunities, if we have got good returns, there is the potential that we'll take some money off the table.
Speaker #2: But we are long-term investors. And so principally, we're there just to realize the value that we think both teams can add in their companies.
Speaker #5: Perfect. Sounds good. Thanks so much, guys, for taking my question. I'll return back to the queue. Thank you.
Larry Liu: Perfect. Sounds good. Thanks so much, guys, for taking my question. I'll return back to the queue. Thank you.
Larry Liu: Perfect. Sounds good. Thanks so much, guys, for taking my question. I'll return back to the queue. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you. The next question comes from Heiko Ihle with HC Wainwright. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Heiko Ihle with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Heiko Ihle with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.
Heiko Ihle: Hey there. Thanks so much for taking my questions. I'm gonna.
Heiko Ihle: Hey there. Thanks so much for taking my questions. I'm gonna.
Speaker #6: Hey there. Thanks so much for taking my questions. I'm going to follow up with one of the last questions I was asking, the oil segment.
Sandip Rana: Thank you.
Sandip Rana: Thank you.
Heiko Ihle: Follow up with one of the last questions that was asked, namely the oil segment. We're three weeks away from Q1 being over. Do you have a year-to-date figure of cash receipts? And also, I'm cognizant the high prices didn't really start until, you know, a couple of weeks ago or really just two weeks ago. But maybe a bit of color of what number we should be modeling out for the full quarter.
Heiko Ihle: Follow up with one of the last questions that was asked, namely the oil segment. We're three weeks away from Q1 being over. Do you have a year-to-date figure of cash receipts? And also, I'm cognizant the high prices didn't really start until, you know, a couple of weeks ago or really just two weeks ago. But maybe a bit of color of what number we should be modeling out for the full quarter.
Speaker #6: We're three weeks away from Q1 being over. Do you have a year-to-date figure of cash receipts? And also, I'm cognizant the high prices didn't really start until a couple of weeks ago or really just two weeks ago.
Speaker #6: But maybe a bit of color of what a number we should be modeling out for the full quarter.
Sandip Rana: Heiko, Sandip here. You're right that, you know, this event is recent. I do not have a number off the top of my head. If anything, you know, the real benefit to this, if it just carries on, will be a Q2 event for us. As part of our Q1 results, we'll provide additional color as to sensitivities, et cetera.
Speaker #2: Heiko Sandip here. You're right. This event is recent. I do not have a number off the top of my head. If anything, the real benefit to this, if it just carries on, will be a Q2 event for us.
Sandip Rana: Heiko, Sandip here. You're right that, you know, this event is recent. I do not have a number off the top of my head. If anything, you know, the real benefit to this, if it just carries on, will be a Q2 event for us. As part of our Q1 results, we'll provide additional color as to sensitivities, et cetera.
Speaker #2: And as part of our Q1 results, we'll provide additional color as to sensitivities, etc.
Heiko Ihle: you wouldn't be willing to give us a quarter to date guesstimate on receipts though, would you?
Speaker #6: You wouldn't be wanting to give us a quarter-to-date guesstimate on receipts, though, would you?
Heiko Ihle: you wouldn't be willing to give us a quarter to date guesstimate on receipts though, would you?
Sandip Rana: Not right now, no.
Speaker #2: Not right now, no.
Sandip Rana: Not right now, no.
Speaker #6: Okay. Fair enough. And then just thinking out loud, I mean, I know there's talk about mines getting put into the strait and just geopolitical risk factors or warring, even more so than they have been over the past couple of years.
Heiko Ihle: Okay. Fair enough. Just thinking out loud, I mean, you know, like, no, there's talk about, you know, mines getting put into the straits and just geopolitical risk factors are rising even more so than they have been over the past couple of years. Just maybe a bit of color on where internally you move your discount rates and your risk-based premiums for acquisitions that you're thinking and willing to make.
Heiko Ihle: Okay. Fair enough. Just thinking out loud, I mean, you know, like, no, there's talk about, you know, mines getting put into the straits and just geopolitical risk factors are rising even more so than they have been over the past couple of years. Just maybe a bit of color on where internally you move your discount rates and your risk-based premiums for acquisitions that you're thinking and willing to make.
Speaker #6: Just maybe a bit of color on where internally you move your discount rates and your risk-based premiums for acquisitions that you're thinking and willing to make.
Paul Brink: That would be a long answer to that question. Other than that, you know, I think you, the main point you make is a very good point, the we've seen de-globalization, we've seen the world breaking into trade blocks and now you have an added dispute on top of that. It does raise risk globally. We try to be a low-risk way to invest in this business. We need to have most of our assets in good jurisdictions. We're very glad that that is the case. Very glad that in terms of recent deals over the last number of years, most of that has been in Canada, the US, and Australia. We think those are super jurisdictions.
Speaker #2: That would be a long answer to that question. Other than that, I think the main point you make is a very good point is the we've seen deglobalization.
Paul Brink: That would be a long answer to that question. Other than that, you know, I think you, the main point you make is a very good point, the we've seen de-globalization, we've seen the world breaking into trade blocks and now you have an added dispute on top of that. It does raise risk globally. We try to be a low-risk way to invest in this business. We need to have most of our assets in good jurisdictions. We're very glad that that is the case. Very glad that in terms of recent deals over the last number of years, most of that has been in Canada, the US, and Australia. We think those are super jurisdictions.
Speaker #2: We've seen the world breaking into trade blocs, and now you have an added dispute on top of that. It does raise risk globally. We try to be a low-risk way to invest in this business.
Speaker #2: We need to have most of our assets in good jurisdictions. We're very glad that that is the case. Very glad that in terms of the recent deals over the last number of years, most of that has been in Canada, the US, and Australia.
Speaker #2: We think those are super jurisdictions. We will continue to do deals that are across the board, but we do like having most of the assets in good jurisdictions. And obviously, when you're going into jurisdictions where there's more risk, you've got to think about the discount rate.
Paul Brink: We will continue to do deals that are across the board. We do like to have most of the assets in good jurisdictions. Obviously when you're going into jurisdictions when there's more risk, you've gotta think about the discount rate, you've gotta think about the size of capital that you're putting at risk. In particular, we think about the payback and you wanna make sure, if there is a bit more jurisdictional risk that you're getting a faster payback.
Paul Brink: We will continue to do deals that are across the board. We do like to have most of the assets in good jurisdictions. Obviously when you're going into jurisdictions when there's more risk, you've gotta think about the discount rate, you've gotta think about the size of capital that you're putting at risk. In particular, we think about the payback and you wanna make sure, if there is a bit more jurisdictional risk that you're getting a faster payback.
Speaker #2: You've got to think about the size of capital that you're putting at risk. But in particular, we think about the payback and you want to make sure if there is a bit more jurisdictional risk that you're getting a faster payback.
Speaker #5: That's fair.
Heiko Ihle: That's fair. Okay. I'll get back with you. Thank you, guys.
Heiko Ihle: That's fair. Okay. I'll get back with you. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #6: Okay. I'll get back to you. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #3: Thank you. The next question comes from Tanya Jakusanek with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. The next question comes from Tanya Jakusconek with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Tanya Jakusconek with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Oh, great. Good morning, everybody. Thank you so much for taking my question. First one, I'm going to start with Sandip on just how you're going to be showing guidance.
Tanya Jakusconek: Oh, great. Good morning, everybody. Thank you so much for taking my question. First one I'm gonna start with Sandip on, just how you're going to be showing guidance. I understand that you've put out your commodity pricing, and that's what you're going to use for the year. When you report, should I be thinking that the GEOs that you're going to be reporting every quarter would be exactly on those commodity prices you've outlined, but your revenue is actually gonna be on what was realized per quarter? I'm just trying to understand how you're gonna show it.
Tanya Jakusconek: Oh, great. Good morning, everybody. Thank you so much for taking my question. First one I'm gonna start with Sandip on, just how you're going to be showing guidance. I understand that you've put out your commodity pricing, and that's what you're going to use for the year. When you report, should I be thinking that the GEOs that you're going to be reporting every quarter would be exactly on those commodity prices you've outlined, but your revenue is actually gonna be on what was realized per quarter? I'm just trying to understand how you're gonna show it.
Speaker #7: I understand that you've put out your commodity pricing. And that's what you're going to use for the year. So when you report, should I be thinking that the GEOs that you're going to be reporting every quarter would be exactly on those commodity prices you've outlined?
Speaker #7: But your revenue is actually going to be on what was realized per quarter. I'm just trying to understand how you're going to show it.
Sandip Rana: That's correct, Tanya. Revenue will be realized at the actual prices for the period, but the GEO calculation against the guidance will be based on the prices that we've disclosed as part of our guidance disclosure.
Speaker #2: That's correct, Tanya. Revenue will be realized at the actual prices for the period, but the GEO calculation against the guidance will be based on the prices that we've disclosed as part of our guidance disclosure.
Sandip Rana: That's correct, Tanya. Revenue will be realized at the actual prices for the period, but the GEO calculation against the guidance will be based on the prices that we've disclosed as part of our guidance disclosure.
Speaker #7: Okay. Got it. So those two numbers will be quite different. Will you disclose both, or just the one?
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay, got it. Those two numbers will be quite different. Will you disclose both or just the one?
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay, got it. Those two numbers will be quite different. Will you disclose both or just the one?
Sandip Rana: To be determined. We are having those discussions.
Speaker #2: To be determined. We are having those discussions.
Sandip Rana: To be determined. We are having those discussions.
Speaker #7: Okay. All right. Thank you for that clarity. So my next question, then, is going to go back to the guidance. And I want to go back to 2030, because we were quite off on 2030.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. All right. Thank you for that clarity. My next question then is going to go back to the guidance. I wanna go back to 2030 'cause we were quite off on 2030. I'm trying to understand, if it's possible for you, would you be able to take that guidance range and break that out to what is gold in that 2030 guidance? What is silver and what's the other diversified?
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. All right. Thank you for that clarity. My next question then is going to go back to the guidance. I wanna go back to 2030 'cause we were quite off on 2030. I'm trying to understand, if it's possible for you, would you be able to take that guidance range and break that out to what is gold in that 2030 guidance? What is silver and what's the other diversified?
Speaker #7: So I'm trying to understand if it's possible for you would you be able to take that guidance range and break that out to what is gold in that 2030 guidance?
Speaker #7: What is silver, and what's the other diversified?
Speaker #2: I think we would break it out just between precious metals and diversified. But I can give you a call after and give you some color.
Sandip Rana: I think we would break it out just between precious metals and diversifying, but I can give you a call after and can give you some color.
Sandip Rana: I think we would break it out just between precious metals and diversifying, but I can give you a call after and can give you some color.
Speaker #7: Okay. And then in that guidance as well, you gave us what the contribution from Cassabell would be. I don't have the new deposit coming in at Antepakai.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. Then in that guidance as well, you gave us what the contribution from Cascabel would be. I don't have the new deposit coming in at Antapaccay. Would you happen to know how much is in there as well? Then is this new Australian Bullabulling in there in your 2030 guidance as well?
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. Then in that guidance as well, you gave us what the contribution from Cascabel would be. I don't have the new deposit coming in at Antapaccay. Would you happen to know how much is in there as well? Then is this new Australian Bullabulling in there in your 2030 guidance as well?
Speaker #7: Would you happen to know how much is in there as well? And then is this New Australian Bulla Bulling in there in your 2030 guidance as well?
Sandip Rana: I don't have the Antapaccay Coroccohuayco number in front of me. Bullabulling is in there, but it's minimal ounces in 2030.
Speaker #2: So I don't have the Antepakai Cork Waco number in front of me. Bulla Bulling is in there, but it's minimal ounces in 2030.
Sandip Rana: I don't have the Antapaccay Coroccohuayco number in front of me. Bullabulling is in there, but it's minimal ounces in 2030.
Speaker #7: Okay, okay, that's very helpful. Thank you for that. And then I'm just trying to understand also—maybe Inwards can take this one—just on the environment that you're in, because it's moving quite fast, these commodity prices.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you on that. I'm just trying to understand also, if maybe Eaun wants to take this one, just on the environment that you're in because, you know, it's moving quite fast, these commodity prices. Maybe just an idea of what you're seeing out there. Any opportunities for you to double down on, you know, areas of investment that you already have exposure to? Obviously we saw the big Wheaton transaction on Antamina, so trying to understand how many other big ones are out there in that space that you're also seeing.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you on that. I'm just trying to understand also, if maybe Eaun wants to take this one, just on the environment that you're in because, you know, it's moving quite fast, these commodity prices. Maybe just an idea of what you're seeing out there. Any opportunities for you to double down on, you know, areas of investment that you already have exposure to? Obviously we saw the big Wheaton transaction on Antamina, so trying to understand how many other big ones are out there in that space that you're also seeing.
Speaker #7: So maybe just an idea of what you're seeing out there. Any opportunities for you to double down on areas of investment that you already have exposure to?
Speaker #7: And then obviously, we saw the big wheat and transaction on Antonina. So trying to understand how many other big ones are out there in that space that you're also seeing.
Eaun Gray: Thank you, Tanya, for the question. I would say overall it remains a very robust deal environment. As you've seen a number of transactions, we're very proud of the deals that we got done year to date. My expectation is you'll continue to see similar kind of deal environment to what we've seen over the last two years, despite the changes to prices, just based on what we're seeing at the moment. You know, what I'm very excited about is, given, you know, the deal that we've done in Australia, the deal that BHP did, you know, I think the streaming market is very much in consideration by CFOs in the mining industry, at the moment. That should drive further activity going forward. I'm quite hopeful on that front.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Tanya, for the question. I would say overall, it remains a very robust deal environment as you've seen a number of transactions who are very proud of the deals that we got done year to date.
Eaun Gray: Thank you, Tanya, for the question. I would say overall it remains a very robust deal environment. As you've seen a number of transactions, we're very proud of the deals that we got done year to date. My expectation is you'll continue to see similar kind of deal environment to what we've seen over the last two years, despite the changes to prices, just based on what we're seeing at the moment. You know, what I'm very excited about is, given, you know, the deal that we've done in Australia, the deal that BHP did, you know, I think the streaming market is very much in consideration by CFOs in the mining industry, at the moment. That should drive further activity going forward. I'm quite hopeful on that front.
Speaker #2: My expectation is you'll continue to see similar kind of deal environment to what we've seen over the last two years, despite the changes to prices.
Speaker #2: Just based on what we're seeing at the moment, what I'm very excited about is, given the deal that we've done in Australia, the deal that BHP did, I think the streaming market is very much in consideration by CFOs in the mining industry at the moment.
Speaker #2: And that should drive further activity going forward. So I'm quite hopeful on that front.
Speaker #7: And what is the size of the deal environment you're seeing? Because obviously, you can run a truck through these zero to 4.3 billion. But what are most that you're seeing?
Tanya Jakusconek: What is the size of the deal environment you're seeing? 'Cause obviously, you know, you can run a truck through the $0 to 4.3 billion. What are most of those you're seeing? Are we still in that $100 to 300 or $100 to 500? I'm just trying to understand what the majority are separate from these big ones.
Tanya Jakusconek: What is the size of the deal environment you're seeing? 'Cause obviously, you know, you can run a truck through the $0 to 4.3 billion. What are most of those you're seeing? Are we still in that $100 to 300 or $100 to 500? I'm just trying to understand what the majority are separate from these big ones.
Speaker #7: Are we still in that 100 to 300, or 100 to 5? I'm just trying to understand what the majority are, separate from these big ones.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Tanya. And unfortunately, it's really hard to handicap. I would say, at the moment, you're going to see a range—similar sizes to what has taken place.
Eaun Gray: Yeah, Tanya, unfortunately, it's really hard to handicap. I would say at the moment, you know, you're gonna see a range, you know, similar sizes to, you know, what has taken place. For the last, you know, year or so, that's what I would expect in the market, going forward. There are larger transactions and smaller transactions. We'll see what actually crosses the finish line.
Eaun Gray: Yeah, Tanya, unfortunately, it's really hard to handicap. I would say at the moment, you know, you're gonna see a range, you know, similar sizes to, you know, what has taken place. For the last, you know, year or so, that's what I would expect in the market, going forward. There are larger transactions and smaller transactions. We'll see what actually crosses the finish line.
Speaker #2: So for the last year or so, that's what I would expect. In the market going forward, there are larger transactions and smaller transactions.
Speaker #2: We’ll see what actually crosses the finish line.
Speaker #7: And is your focus in mainly on precious metals right now? Or are there opportunities in other metals as well?
Tanya Jakusconek: Is your focus in mainly on precious metals right now, or are there opportunities in other metals as well?
Tanya Jakusconek: Is your focus in mainly on precious metals right now, or are there opportunities in other metals as well?
Eaun Gray: That really hasn't changed. We remain open to investments, outside of precious metals, but, you know, precious metals make up the majority of, what's in the pipeline at the moment.
Speaker #2: That really hasn't changed. We remain open to investments outside of precious metals, but precious metals make up the majority of what's in the pipeline at the moment.
Eaun Gray: That really hasn't changed. We remain open to investments, outside of precious metals, but, you know, precious metals make up the majority of, what's in the pipeline at the moment.
Speaker #7: Okay. I'll get back in the queue. Thank you.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. I'll get back in the queue. Thank you.
Tanya Jakusconek: Okay. I'll get back in the queue. Thank you.
Operator 2: There are no further questions on the phone line. I will now turn the Q&A session back over to Candida Hayden, who will take questions from the webcast.
Operator: There are no further questions on the phone line. I will now turn the Q&A session back over to Candida Hayden, who will take questions from the webcast.
Speaker #3: So, no further questions on the phone line. I will now turn the Q&A session back over to Candida Hayden, who will take questions from the webcast.
Speaker #8: Thank you, Joanna. Our first question comes from Bernie, PG, from Palisade Capital, based on the recent transactions or investments in Canada, US, Nevada, and Australia.
Candida Hayden: Thank you, Joanna. Our first question comes from Bernie Pucci from Palisade Capital. Based on the recent transactions or investments in Canada, US (Nevada), and Australia, it would seem that you may have made a strategic decision to focus on OECD-type host countries, developed countries. Is this just a coincidence, a happy occurrence, or deliberate?
Candida Hayden: Thank you, Joanna. Our first question comes from Bernie Pucci from Palisade Capital. Based on the recent transactions or investments in Canada, US (Nevada), and Australia, it would seem that you may have made a strategic decision to focus on OECD-type host countries, developed countries. Is this just a coincidence, a happy occurrence, or deliberate?
Speaker #8: It would seem that you may have made a strategic decision to focus on OECD-type host countries, developed countries. Is this just a coincidence, a happy occurrence, or deliberate?
Paul Brink: You know, as I mentioned earlier in terms of how we think about the portfolio, it's yeah, make sure that most of the assets are in great mining jurisdictions. We're blessed. A lot of our assets are in Canada, US, Australia, but also in Chile, Peru, Mexico, and Brazil. These are all great mining countries. We continue to invest in all of them. It is, you know, yes, what we've done does reflect our strategy. It is a happy coincidence that all of our deals are in Canada, US, and Australia. It is a happy coincidence.
Paul Brink: You know, as I mentioned earlier in terms of how we think about the portfolio, it's yeah, make sure that most of the assets are in great mining jurisdictions. We're blessed. A lot of our assets are in Canada, US, Australia, but also in Chile, Peru, Mexico, and Brazil. These are all great mining countries. We continue to invest in all of them. It is, you know, yes, what we've done does reflect our strategy. It is a happy coincidence that all of our deals are in Canada, US, and Australia. It is a happy coincidence.
Speaker #2: As I mentioned earlier on, in terms of how we think about the portfolio, it's making sure that most of the assets are in great mining jurisdictions.
Speaker #2: We're blessed. The lot of our assets are in Canada, US, Australia. But also in Chile, Peru, Mexico, Brazil. These are all great mining countries.
Speaker #2: We continue to invest in all of them. So it is a yes, what we've done does reflect our strategy. It is a happy coincidence that all our steels are in Canada, the US, and Australia.
Speaker #2: It is a happy coincidence.
Speaker #8: Thank you, Paul. There are no further questions from the webcast. This concludes our 2025 year-end results conference call and webcast. We will host our Investor Day on Wednesday, April 8, 2026.
Candida Hayden: Thank you, Paul. There are no further questions from the webcast. This concludes our 2025 year-end results conference call and webcast. We will host our Investor Day on Wednesday, 8 April 2026. The in-person presentation will be hosted at the Lumi Experience in Toronto at 2:00PM Eastern Time. The presentation will also be available to view virtually. Details will be available on our website. We expect to release our Q1 2026 results after market close on 12 May, with the conference call held the following morning. Thank you for your interest in Franco-Nevada.
Candida Hayden: Thank you, Paul. There are no further questions from the webcast. This concludes our 2025 year-end results conference call and webcast. We will host our Investor Day on Wednesday, 8 April 2026. The in-person presentation will be hosted at the Lumi Experience in Toronto at 2:00PM Eastern Time. The presentation will also be available to view virtually. Details will be available on our website. We expect to release our Q1 2026 results after market close on 12 May, with the conference call held the following morning. Thank you for your interest in Franco-Nevada.
Speaker #8: The in-person presentation will be hosted at the Lumi Experience Center in Toronto, at 2:00 PM Eastern Time. The presentation will also be available to view virtually; details will be available on our website.
Speaker #8: We expect to release our first quarter 2026 results after market close on May 12th, with the conference call held the following morning. Thank you for your interest in Franco Nevada.
Operator 2: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your call for today. We thank you for participating, and we ask that you please disconnect your lines.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your call for today. We thank you for participating, and we ask that you please disconnect your lines.