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Q1 2026 EZCORP Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this call may be recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Sean Mansouri, the company's investor relations advisor. Sean?
Speaker #2: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. During our prepared remarks, we will refer to slides, which are available for viewing or download from our website at investors.ezcorp.com.
Sean Mansouri: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. During our prepared remarks, we will refer to slides which are available for viewing or download from our website at investors.ezcorp.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this conference call, as well as the presentation slides, contain certain forward-looking statements regarding the company's expected operating and financial performance for future periods. These statements are based on the company's current expectations. Actual results for future periods may differ materially from those expressed due to a number of risks or other factors that are discussed in our annual, quarterly, and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As noted in our presentation materials and unless otherwise identified, results are presented on an adjusted basis to remove the effect of foreign currency fluctuations and other discrete items.
Sean Mansouri: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. During our prepared remarks, we will refer to slides which are available for viewing or download from our website at investors.ezcorp.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this conference call, as well as the presentation slides, contain certain forward-looking statements regarding the company's expected operating and financial performance for future periods. These statements are based on the company's current expectations. Actual results for future periods may differ materially from those expressed due to a number of risks or other factors that are discussed in our annual, quarterly, and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As noted in our presentation materials and unless otherwise identified, results are presented on an adjusted basis to remove the effect of foreign currency fluctuations and other discrete items.
Speaker #2: everyone that this conference call, as well as the presentation slides, contain certain forward-looking statements regarding the company's expected operating and financial performance for future periods.
Speaker #2: These statements are based on the company's current expectations. Actual results for future periods may differ materially from those expressed due to a number of risks or other factors that are discussed in our annual, quarterly, and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Speaker #2: As noted in our presentation materials, and unless otherwise identified, results are presented on an adjusted basis to remove the effect of foreign currency fluctuations and other discrete items.
Speaker #2: Joining us on the call today are EZCORP's Chief Executive Officer, Lachy Given, and Tim Jugmans, Chief Financial Officer. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Lachy.
Sean Mansouri: Joining us on the call today are EZCORP's Chief Executive Officer, Lachlan Given, and Tim Jugmans, Chief Financial Officer. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Lachlan.
Sean Mansouri: Joining us on the call today are EZCORP's Chief Executive Officer, Lachlan Given, and Tim Jugmans, Chief Financial Officer. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Lachlan.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. EZCORP is off to an exceptional start to fiscal 2026, delivering one of the strongest quarters in our history.
Lachlan Given: Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. EZCORP is off to an exceptional start to fiscal 2026, delivering one of the strongest quarters in our history. We achieved record first-quarter revenue and PLO, along with outstanding earnings growth for our shareholders. Our team's disciplined execution and the operating leverage inherent in our platform drove more than 35% growth in both net income and EBITDA. The pawn demand environment remains highly favorable. Consumer credit conditions continue to remain challenged, particularly for lower and middle-income households, as many traditional lenders continue to tighten underwriting standards. For consumers who need immediate, no-obligation access to cash, pawn remains a fast, transparent, and trusted solution. At the same time, more consumers are seeking affordable, high-quality pre-owned goods driven by value-conscious shopping and a focus on sustainability. Both sides of our business benefit from these trends.
Lachlan Given: Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. EZCORP is off to an exceptional start to fiscal 2026, delivering one of the strongest quarters in our history. We achieved record first-quarter revenue and PLO, along with outstanding earnings growth for our shareholders. Our team's disciplined execution and the operating leverage inherent in our platform drove more than 35% growth in both net income and EBITDA. The pawn demand environment remains highly favorable. Consumer credit conditions continue to remain challenged, particularly for lower and middle-income households, as many traditional lenders continue to tighten underwriting standards. For consumers who need immediate, no-obligation access to cash, pawn remains a fast, transparent, and trusted solution. At the same time, more consumers are seeking affordable, high-quality pre-owned goods driven by value-conscious shopping and a focus on sustainability. Both sides of our business benefit from these trends.
Speaker #3: We achieved record first quarter revenue and PLO, along with outstanding earnings growth for our shareholders. Our team's disciplined execution and the operating leverage inherent in our platform drove more than $35% growth in both net income and EBITDA.
Speaker #3: The pawn demand environment remains highly favorable. Consumer credit conditions continue to remain challenged, particularly for lower- and middle-income households, as many traditional lenders continue to tighten underwriting standards.
Speaker #3: The consumers who need immediate, no-obligation access to cash, pawn remains a fast, transparent, and trusted solution. At the same time, more consumers are seeking affordable, high-quality pre-owned goods driven by value-conscious shopping, and a focus on sustainability.
Speaker #3: Both sides of our business benefit from these trends. Core financial metrics were very strong across the business for the first quarter. We saw continued momentum in PLO and PSC, merchandise sales and margin, and a material increase in net earning assets of $554 million, up 17%.
Lachlan Given: Core financial metrics were very strong across the business for Q1. We saw continued momentum in PLO and PSC, merchandise sales and margin, and a material increase in scrap. We ended the quarter with Net Earning Assets of $554 million, up 17%, and our PLO to inventory ratio remains healthy at 1.2 times, reflecting disciplined lending and inventory management. Subsequent to quarter-end, we closed two exciting acquisitions that expand our scale and geographic reach. As we've consistently said, we will deploy capital with discipline when the right opportunities emerge, and these transactions deliver on that commitment. Our focus in the immediate term is to successfully integrate these businesses to maximize profitability and returns, and we remain excited about our active pipeline for additional M&A opportunities going forward.
Lachlan Given: Core financial metrics were very strong across the business for Q1. We saw continued momentum in PLO and PSC, merchandise sales and margin, and a material increase in scrap. We ended the quarter with Net Earning Assets of $554 million, up 17%, and our PLO to inventory ratio remains healthy at 1.2 times, reflecting disciplined lending and inventory management. Subsequent to quarter-end, we closed two exciting acquisitions that expand our scale and geographic reach. As we've consistently said, we will deploy capital with discipline when the right opportunities emerge, and these transactions deliver on that commitment. Our focus in the immediate term is to successfully integrate these businesses to maximize profitability and returns, and we remain excited about our active pipeline for additional M&A opportunities going forward.
Speaker #3: And our PLO to inventory scrap. We ended the quarter with ratio remains healthy at 1.2 times, reflecting disciplined lending and inventory management. Subsequent to quarter end, we closed two exciting acquisitions that expand our scale and geographic reach.
Speaker #3: As we've consistently said, we will deploy capital with discipline when the right opportunities emerge, and these transactions deliver on that commitment. Our focus in the immediate term is to successfully integrate these businesses to maximize profitability and returns, and we remain excited about our active pipeline for additional M&A opportunities going forward.
Speaker #3: The first of these transactions was closed on January 2nd, with the acquisition of Founders One, Management Group, one of the largest pawn platforms in North America.
Lachlan Given: The first of these transactions was closed on 2 January with the acquisition of Founders One, which owns a majority interest in Simple Management Group, one of the largest pawn platforms in North America. SMG operates 105 stores across 12 countries, including Florida and Puerto Rico in the US, Costa Rica, Panama, and various markets across the Caribbean. We first invested in Founders as a preferred equity holder back in October 2021. The transaction is immediately accretive and expands our pawn footprint into 11 new countries, creating a compelling platform for future domestic and international expansion. Importantly, SMG meaningfully broadens our total addressable market. In Puerto Rico, the stores also offer auto pawn and auto title loans, giving us exposure to a higher-ticket, secured lending category that complements our traditional pawn offering.
Lachlan Given: The first of these transactions was closed on 2 January with the acquisition of Founders One, which owns a majority interest in Simple Management Group, one of the largest pawn platforms in North America. SMG operates 105 stores across 12 countries, including Florida and Puerto Rico in the US, Costa Rica, Panama, and various markets across the Caribbean. We first invested in Founders as a preferred equity holder back in October 2021. The transaction is immediately accretive and expands our pawn footprint into 11 new countries, creating a compelling platform for future domestic and international expansion. Importantly, SMG meaningfully broadens our total addressable market. In Puerto Rico, the stores also offer auto pawn and auto title loans, giving us exposure to a higher-ticket, secured lending category that complements our traditional pawn offering.
Speaker #3: SMG operates 105 stores across 12 countries, including Florida and Puerto Rico in the US, Costa Rica, Panama, and various markets across the Caribbean. We first invested in Founders as a preferred equity holder back in October 2021.
Speaker #3: The transaction is immediately accretive and expands our pawn footprint into 11 new countries, creating a compelling platform for future domestic and international expansion. Importantly, SMG meaningfully broadens our total addressable market.
Speaker #3: In Puerto Rico, the stores title loans, giving us exposure to also offer auto pawn and auto a higher ticket secured lending category that complements our traditional pawn offering.
Speaker #3: SMG was one of the few remaining large independent pawn chains in the United States, and we're very pleased to welcome the family. On January 12th, we acquired Old Buffalo Pawn, adding 12 stores in Texas, further team into our EZCORP strengthening our position in one of our largest domestic markets.
Lachlan Given: SMG was one of the few remaining large independent pawn chains in the United States, and we're very pleased to welcome the team into our EZCORP family. On 12 January, we acquired El Bufalo Pawn, adding 12 stores in Texas, further strengthening our position in one of our largest domestic markets. This acquisition brings an experienced local team and a strong presence in a rapidly growing market, and we are excited to apply our operating playbook and capital to unlock additional value in this business. Following these two transactions, EZCORP now operates 1,500 pawn stores across 16 countries, marking a significant milestone that highlights the scale of our growing global platform. Turning to slide 3, for those new to the story, the pawn business resonates strongly with customers because the transaction is fundamentally customer-friendly. Our loans are non-recourse, meaning customers have no obligation to repay.
Lachlan Given: SMG was one of the few remaining large independent pawn chains in the United States, and we're very pleased to welcome the team into our EZCORP family. On 12 January, we acquired El Bufalo Pawn, adding 12 stores in Texas, further strengthening our position in one of our largest domestic markets. This acquisition brings an experienced local team and a strong presence in a rapidly growing market, and we are excited to apply our operating playbook and capital to unlock additional value in this business. Following these two transactions, EZCORP now operates 1,500 pawn stores across 16 countries, marking a significant milestone that highlights the scale of our growing global platform. Turning to slide 3, for those new to the story, the pawn business resonates strongly with customers because the transaction is fundamentally customer-friendly. Our loans are non-recourse, meaning customers have no obligation to repay.
Speaker #3: This acquisition brings an experienced local team and a strong presence in a rapidly growing market, and we are excited to apply our operating playbook and capital to unlock additional value in this business.
Speaker #3: Following these two transactions, EZCORP now operates 1,500 pawn stores across 16 countries, marking a significant milestone that highlights the scale of our growing global platform.
Speaker #3: Turning to slide three, for those new strongly with customers because the to the story, the pawn business resonates transaction is fundamentally customer-friendly. Our loans are non-recourse, meaning customers have no obligation to repay, we don't credit check, require bank accounts, or verify employment.
Lachlan Given: We don't credit-check, require bank accounts, or verify employment. We don't pursue collections, and we don't report to credit bureaus. These are small, short-term transactions, typically $200 to $220 in the US and $70 to $140 in Latin America, with terms ranging from 30 to 90 days. That core value proposition, together with offering great value-for-money secondhand goods in an environmentally responsible way where it's fun to come and shop in a pawn store, have been critical in driving consistent, outstanding operational and financial results for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn it over to Tim to walk through the financial details. Tim?
Lachlan Given: We don't credit-check, require bank accounts, or verify employment. We don't pursue collections, and we don't report to credit bureaus. These are small, short-term transactions, typically $200 to $220 in the US and $70 to $140 in Latin America, with terms ranging from 30 to 90 days. That core value proposition, together with offering great value-for-money secondhand goods in an environmentally responsible way where it's fun to come and shop in a pawn store, have been critical in driving consistent, outstanding operational and financial results for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn it over to Tim to walk through the financial details. Tim?
Speaker #3: We don't pursue collections, and we don't report to credit bureaus. These are small, short-term transactions typically $200 to $220 in the US and $70 to $140 in Latin America, with terms ranging from 30 to 90 days.
Speaker #3: That core value proposition, together with offering great value for money secondhand goods in an environmentally responsible way, where it's fun to come and shop in a pawn store, have been critical in driving consistent, outstanding operational and financial results for our shareholders.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn it over to Tim to walk through the financial details. Tim?
Speaker #4: Thanks, Lachy. Turning to slide five for the consolidated financial results. We delivered another quarter of exceptional earnings performance. Adjusted EBITDA rose 36% to $70.3 million, with margin expanding 260 basis points to 19%.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Thanks, Lachlan. Turning to slide five for the consolidated financial results. We delivered another quarter of exceptional earnings performance. Adjusted EBITDA rose 36% to $70.3 million, with margin expanding 260 basis points to 19%. Diluted EPS improved 34% to $0.55. These results reflect the operating leverage embedded in our model as we scale. Total revenues reached a record $374.5 million, up 17%. Improvement was broad-based, with meaningful contributions from PSC, merchandise sales, and a significant increase in scrap, reflecting elevated gold prices. PLO also increased 12% to $307.3 million, marking an all-time Q1, fueled by sustained consumer demand and high average loan sizes across all geographies. PSC revenue rose 11% to $129.6 million, generally in line with PLO. On the retail side, merchandise sales climbed 10% to $205.2 million, with same-store sales up 7%.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Thanks, Lachlan. Turning to slide five for the consolidated financial results. We delivered another quarter of exceptional earnings performance. Adjusted EBITDA rose 36% to $70.3 million, with margin expanding 260 basis points to 19%. Diluted EPS improved 34% to $0.55. These results reflect the operating leverage embedded in our model as we scale. Total revenues reached a record $374.5 million, up 17%. Improvement was broad-based, with meaningful contributions from PSC, merchandise sales, and a significant increase in scrap, reflecting elevated gold prices. PLO also increased 12% to $307.3 million, marking an all-time Q1, fueled by sustained consumer demand and high average loan sizes across all geographies. PSC revenue rose 11% to $129.6 million, generally in line with PLO. On the retail side, merchandise sales climbed 10% to $205.2 million, with same-store sales up 7%.
Speaker #4: Diluted EPS improved 34% to $55. These results reflect the operating leverage embedded in our model as we scale. Total revenues reached a record $374.5 million up 17%, improvement was broad-based with meaningful contributions from PSC, merchandise sales, and a significant increase in scrap reflecting elevated gold prices.
Speaker #4: increased 12% to PLO also $307.3 million, marking an all-time Q1. Fueled by sustained consumer demand and high average loan sizes across all drug fees.
Speaker #4: PSC revenue rose 11% to $129.6 million, generally in line with PLO. On the retail side, merchandise sales climbed 10% to $205.2 million, with same-store sales up 7%.
Speaker #4: Merchandise margin expanded 230 basis points to 37%, reflecting improved pricing, execution, and product mix. Scrap margins also expanded significantly from 23% to 34% as we benefited from higher gold prices.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Merchandise margin expanded 230 basis points to 37%, reflecting improved pricing, execution, and product mix. Scrap margins also expanded significantly from 23% to 34% as we benefited from higher gold prices. Gross profit of $218.9 million improved 18%, supported by contributions across all three revenue streams. G&A rose 9%, primarily due to high incentive compensation and professional fees related to the acquisition activity. With top and bottom line growth meaningfully outpacing operating expenses, we're demonstrating the scalability and operating leverage inherent in our platform. Before I turn it to the segments, I'd note a presentation change this quarter. We've modified how we allocate certain administrative expenses. These are now reported within corporate G&A rather than allocated to store expenses at the segment level. Prior periods have been recast to conform. There's no impact to operating expenses or net income, but please see slide 22 in the earnings presentations for reference.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Merchandise margin expanded 230 basis points to 37%, reflecting improved pricing, execution, and product mix. Scrap margins also expanded significantly from 23% to 34% as we benefited from higher gold prices. Gross profit of $218.9 million improved 18%, supported by contributions across all three revenue streams. G&A rose 9%, primarily due to high incentive compensation and professional fees related to the acquisition activity. With top and bottom line growth meaningfully outpacing operating expenses, we're demonstrating the scalability and operating leverage inherent in our platform. Before I turn it to the segments, I'd note a presentation change this quarter. We've modified how we allocate certain administrative expenses. These are now reported within corporate G&A rather than allocated to store expenses at the segment level. Prior periods have been recast to conform. There's no impact to operating expenses or net income, but please see slide 22 in the earnings presentations for reference.
Speaker #4: Gross profit of $218.9 million improved streams. G&A rose 9%, primarily due to high incentive compensation and professional fees related to the across all three revenue acquisition activity.
Speaker #4: With top and bottom line growth meaningfully outpacing operating 18%, supported by contributions expenses, we're demonstrating the scalability and operating leverage inherent in our platform.
Speaker #4: Before I turn it to the segments, I'd note a presentation change this quarter. We've modified how we allocate certain administrative expenses, these are now reported within corporate G&A rather than allocated to store expenses at the segment to conform.
Speaker #4: level. Prior periods have been recast or net income. But please to operating expenses see slide 22 in the earnings presentations for reference. Moving to the US segment on slide six and seven, we ended the quarter with $547 stores across 19 states.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Moving to the US segment on slides six and seven, we ended the quarter with 547 stores across 19 states. Total revenues increased $37.6 million, or 16%, to $269.8 million. Roughly half of this improvement is attributed to higher scrap sales, which benefited from elevated gold prices and increased jewelry purchasing activity. PLO expanded 9% to $239.9 million, with same-store PLO up 8%. Average loan size rose 12% to $231, largely due to higher prices on jewelry. Jewelry now represents 68% of US PLO, up 310 basis points. PSC improved 8% to $95.2 million, supported by same-store PLO gains. On the retail side, merchandise sales climbed 8%, with same-store sales up 7%. Merchandise margin improved 170 basis points to 38%. Jewelry scrap gross profit rose $8.6 million, reflecting our ability to efficiently monetize inventory in this gold price environment.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Moving to the US segment on slides six and seven, we ended the quarter with 547 stores across 19 states. Total revenues increased $37.6 million, or 16%, to $269.8 million. Roughly half of this improvement is attributed to higher scrap sales, which benefited from elevated gold prices and increased jewelry purchasing activity. PLO expanded 9% to $239.9 million, with same-store PLO up 8%. Average loan size rose 12% to $231, largely due to higher prices on jewelry. Jewelry now represents 68% of US PLO, up 310 basis points. PSC improved 8% to $95.2 million, supported by same-store PLO gains. On the retail side, merchandise sales climbed 8%, with same-store sales up 7%. Merchandise margin improved 170 basis points to 38%. Jewelry scrap gross profit rose $8.6 million, reflecting our ability to efficiently monetize inventory in this gold price environment.
Speaker #4: Total revenues increased 37.6 million or 16% to $269.8 million. Roughly half of this improvement is attributed to higher scrap sales, which benefited from elevated gold prices.
Speaker #4: An increase jewelry purchasing activity. PLO expanded 9% to $239.9 million with same-store PLO up 8%. Average loan size rose 12% to $231, largely due to higher prices on jewelry.
Speaker #4: Jewelry now represents 68% of US PLO, points. PSC up 310 basis $95.2 million, supported by same-store PLO gains. On the retail side, merchandise sales climbed 8% with same-store sales up 7%.
Speaker #4: Merchandise margin improved 170 basis points to 38%. Jewelry scrap gross profit rose $8.6 million, reflecting our inventory in this gold price environment.
Speaker #4: Inventory increased 29% to $190.9 million, fueled by PLO expansion and higher merchandise purchases, including continued growth of our layaway product as well as a decline in turnover from to $2.2 times from $2.5 times.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Inventory increased 29% to $190.9 million, fueled by PLO expansion and higher merchandise purchases, including continued growth of our layaway product as well as a decline in turnover to 2.5 times. This reflects a higher mix of jewelry, which naturally carries a longer sale cycle, as well as continued success of our layaway product. Layaway provides customers flexible paths to ownership and supports healthy sell-through and inventory velocity. In addition, jewelry that doesn't sell through retail can be monetized through scrap, providing a natural floor on inventory risk. Despite lower turns, aged general merchandise remains manageable at 3.1% of total GM inventory, or $1.7 million. We have prioritized efforts to optimize inventory velocity and reduce aged GM. Segment EBITDA improved 28% to $73.5 million as margins expanded 260 basis points to 27%, supported by robust gross profit performance and effective expense management, with same-store expenses up 6%.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Inventory increased 29% to $190.9 million, fueled by PLO expansion and higher merchandise purchases, including continued growth of our layaway product as well as a decline in turnover to 2.5 times. This reflects a higher mix of jewelry, which naturally carries a longer sale cycle, as well as continued success of our layaway product. Layaway provides customers flexible paths to ownership and supports healthy sell-through and inventory velocity. In addition, jewelry that doesn't sell through retail can be monetized through scrap, providing a natural floor on inventory risk. Despite lower turns, aged general merchandise remains manageable at 3.1% of total GM inventory, or $1.7 million. We have prioritized efforts to optimize inventory velocity and reduce aged GM. Segment EBITDA improved 28% to $73.5 million as margins expanded 260 basis points to 27%, supported by robust gross profit performance and effective expense management, with same-store expenses up 6%.
Speaker #4: This reflects a higher mix of jewelry, which naturally carries a longer sales cycle, as well as continued success of our layaway product. Layaway provides customers flexible paths to ownership and supports healthy sell-through and inventory velocity.
Speaker #4: In addition, jewelry that doesn't sell through retail can be monetized through scrap, providing a natural floor on inventory risk. Despite lower turns, aged general merchandise remains manageable at $3.1% of total GM, inventory, or $1.7 million.
Speaker #4: We are prioritizing efforts to optimize inventory GM. Segment EBITDA improved 28% to velocity and reduce aged $73.5 million, as margins expanded $260 basis points to $27%.
Speaker #4: Supported by robust gross profit performance and effective expense management, with same-store expenses up 6%. Turning to Latin America on slide eight and $836 stores across four countries.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Turning to Latin America on slides 8 and 9, we ended the quarter with 836 stores across four countries. During the period, we opened 7 De Novo stores, including 5 in Guatemala, 1 in Mexico, and 1 in Honduras, and acquired 14 stores in Mexico. Total revenues rose $16.7 million, or 19%, to $104.7 million. Roughly half of this improvement is attributed to merchandise sales, reflecting solid retail execution across the region. PLO expanded 23% to $67.4 million, with same-store gains of 12%. Average loan size improved 16% to $102.90 on a Constant Currency basis, largely reflecting higher jewelry prices. Jewelry now represents 47% of Latin American PLO, up 650 basis points. PC rose 18%, supported by the same-store PLO gains and contributions from new stores. Merchandise sales climbed 15%, with same-store up 8%. Merchandise margin improved 380 basis points to 34%.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Turning to Latin America on slides 8 and 9, we ended the quarter with 836 stores across four countries. During the period, we opened 7 De Novo stores, including 5 in Guatemala, 1 in Mexico, and 1 in Honduras, and acquired 14 stores in Mexico. Total revenues rose $16.7 million, or 19%, to $104.7 million. Roughly half of this improvement is attributed to merchandise sales, reflecting solid retail execution across the region. PLO expanded 23% to $67.4 million, with same-store gains of 12%. Average loan size improved 16% to $102.90 on a Constant Currency basis, largely reflecting higher jewelry prices. Jewelry now represents 47% of Latin American PLO, up 650 basis points. PC rose 18%, supported by the same-store PLO gains and contributions from new stores. Merchandise sales climbed 15%, with same-store up 8%. Merchandise margin improved 380 basis points to 34%.
Speaker #4: During the period, we opened seven de novo stores, including five in Honduras. And acquired 14 stores in Mexico. Total revenues rose 16.7 million dollars on 19% to $104.7 million.
Speaker #4: Roughly half of this improvement is attributed to merchandise sales, reflecting solid retail execution across the region. PLO expanded 23% to same-store gains of $67.4 million, with 12%.
Speaker #4: Average loan size improved 16% to $102.9% on a constant currency basis. Largely reflecting higher jewelry 47% of Latin American PLO, up prices. Jewelry now represents 650 basis points.
Speaker #4: PSC rose 18%, supported by the same-store PLO gains and contributions from new stores. Merchandise sales climbed 15% with same-stores up 8%. 380 basis points to Merchandise margin improved $34%.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Inventory increased 10% to $56.1 million, fueled by PLO expansion. Importantly, inventory turnover improved to 3.1 times from 3 times. Aged general merchandise increased to 3.6% of total GM inventory, representing $1.2 million. We are applying best practices to reduce aged GM. Segment EBITDA improved 23% to $21.4 million, and margins expanded 70 basis points to 20%, reflecting continued expansion despite a 16% rise in same-store expenses, mainly due to labor costs, including minimum wage increases. From a balance sheet perspective, our robust position of $465.9 million in unrestricted cash will enable us to fund organic expansion, pursue compelling acquisition opportunities, and thoughtfully return capital shelters over time. As Lachlan noted, subsequent to quarter-end, we completed two acquisitions that meaningfully expand our footprint. On 2 January, we closed the SMG transaction.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Inventory increased 10% to $56.1 million, fueled by PLO expansion. Importantly, inventory turnover improved to 3.1 times from 3 times. Aged general merchandise increased to 3.6% of total GM inventory, representing $1.2 million. We are applying best practices to reduce aged GM. Segment EBITDA improved 23% to $21.4 million, and margins expanded 70 basis points to 20%, reflecting continued expansion despite a 16% rise in same-store expenses, mainly due to labor costs, including minimum wage increases. From a balance sheet perspective, our robust position of $465.9 million in unrestricted cash will enable us to fund organic expansion, pursue compelling acquisition opportunities, and thoughtfully return capital shelters over time. As Lachlan noted, subsequent to quarter-end, we completed two acquisitions that meaningfully expand our footprint. On 2 January, we closed the SMG transaction.
Speaker #4: to $56.1 million, fueled Inventory increased 10% by PLO expansion. Importantly, inventory turnover improved to $3.1 times from three times. Aged general merchandise increased to $3.6% of total GM inventory, representing 1.2 million.
Speaker #4: We are applying best practices to reduce aged GM. Segment EBITDA improved 23% to $21.4 million, and margins expanded 70 basis points to 20%, reflecting continued expansion despite a 16% rise in same-store expenses, mainly due to labor costs, including minimum wage increases.
Speaker #4: From a balance sheet perspective, our robust position of $465.9 enable us to fund organic expansion pursued compelling acquisition opportunities and thoughtfully return capital shareholders over time.
Speaker #4: As lucky noted, subsequent to quarter end, we completed two acquisitions that meaningfully expand our footprint. On January 2nd, we closed the SMG transaction. The transaction was funded through a conversion of existing preferred equity investments and notes receivable, plus approximately $9 million of cash, for a total consideration of approximately $64 million.
Timothy K. Jugmans: The transaction was funded through a conversion of existing preferred equity investments and notes receivable, plus approximately $9 million of cash, for a total consideration of approximately $64 million. This results in approximately 75% economic interest in SMG. Following the transaction, we will consolidate 100% of SMG's financial results, with net income allocated to non-controlling interests reflected below the net income line. We also provided SMG with an intercompany debt facility to replace its third-party financing. This intercompany debt and associated interests will be eliminated upon consolidation. Also, in January, we acquired El Bufalo Pawn, adding 12 stores in Texas for $27.5 million. Both transactions represent disciplined deployment of capital to drive longer-term shareholder value. Looking ahead on a consolidated basis, we remain focused on expanding PLO, improved inventory efficiency, and scaling operational best practices across all geographies.
Timothy K. Jugmans: The transaction was funded through a conversion of existing preferred equity investments and notes receivable, plus approximately $9 million of cash, for a total consideration of approximately $64 million. This results in approximately 75% economic interest in SMG. Following the transaction, we will consolidate 100% of SMG's financial results, with net income allocated to non-controlling interests reflected below the net income line. We also provided SMG with an intercompany debt facility to replace its third-party financing. This intercompany debt and associated interests will be eliminated upon consolidation. Also, in January, we acquired El Bufalo Pawn, adding 12 stores in Texas for $27.5 million. Both transactions represent disciplined deployment of capital to drive longer-term shareholder value. Looking ahead on a consolidated basis, we remain focused on expanding PLO, improved inventory efficiency, and scaling operational best practices across all geographies.
Speaker #4: $75% economic interest in This results in approximately SMG. Following the transaction, we will consolidate 100% of SMG's financial results, with net income allocated to non-controlling interests, reflected below the net income line.
Speaker #4: SMG with an intercompany debt facility to We also provided financing. This intercompany debt replace its third-party and associated interest will be eliminated upon consolidation.
Speaker #4: Also in January, we acquired Elbaf Low Pawn, adding 12 stores in Texas, with 27.5 million. Both transactions represent disciplined deployment of capital to drive longer-term shareholder consolidated basis, we may focus on value.
Speaker #4: expanding PLO, improved inventory efficiency, and scaling Looking ahead on a operational best practices across all geographies. Based on the current trends, we expect Q2 momentum to remain favorable.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Based on the current trends, we expect Q2 momentum to remain favorable. Tax refund season typically drives increased loan redemption and retail activity, and the current gold price environment continues to support elevated scrap contributions. With respect to scrap, we're not in the business of predicting gold prices, but we can say gold has continued to rise through the quarter. As long as that continues, we expect elevated scrap gross profit contributions. As we noted last quarter, once gold stabilizes, we'd expect approximately two quarters of elevated scrap gross profit margin before margins begin to normalize towards historical levels. On expenses, we remain disciplined. That said, we do expect sequential increase through the year as we onboard our recent acquisitions and continue scaling operational best practices across all our geographies. Our M&A pipeline remains active in the US and Latin America as we approach each opportunity with rigorous financial discipline.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Based on the current trends, we expect Q2 momentum to remain favorable. Tax refund season typically drives increased loan redemption and retail activity, and the current gold price environment continues to support elevated scrap contributions. With respect to scrap, we're not in the business of predicting gold prices, but we can say gold has continued to rise through the quarter. As long as that continues, we expect elevated scrap gross profit contributions. As we noted last quarter, once gold stabilizes, we'd expect approximately two quarters of elevated scrap gross profit margin before margins begin to normalize towards historical levels. On expenses, we remain disciplined. That said, we do expect sequential increase through the year as we onboard our recent acquisitions and continue scaling operational best practices across all our geographies. Our M&A pipeline remains active in the US and Latin America as we approach each opportunity with rigorous financial discipline.
Speaker #4: Tax refund season typically drives increased loan redemption and retail activity, and the current gold price environment continues to support elevated scrap contributions. With respect to scrap, we're not in the business of predicting gold rise through the quarter.
Speaker #4: that continues, we expect elevated prices, but we can say gold has continued to scrap gross profit As long as contributions. As you will note in the last quarter, once gold stabilizes, we'd expect approximately two quarters of elevated scrap gross profit margin before margins begin to normalize towards historical levels.
Speaker #4: On expenses, we remain disciplined. That said, we do expect sequential increase through the year as we onboard our recent acquisitions and continue scaling operational best practices across all geographies.
Speaker #4: Our M&A pipeline remains active in the US and Latin America as we approach each opportunity with rigorous financial discipline. With 1,500 stores across 16 countries, we've reached a significant scale milestone and a well-positioned to capitalize on further consolidation opportunities.
Timothy K. Jugmans: With 1,500 stores across 16 countries, we've reached a significant scale milestone and are well-positioned to capitalize on further consolidation opportunities. Now, I'd like to turn back to Lachlan for closing remarks.
Timothy K. Jugmans: With 1,500 stores across 16 countries, we've reached a significant scale milestone and are well-positioned to capitalize on further consolidation opportunities. Now, I'd like to turn back to Lachlan for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Now, I'd like to turn back to Lucky for closing remarks.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, Tim. From a capital allocation perspective, our strategy remains consistent. Our priority is to build scale, given the significant global opportunity in pawn. We are going to do that in a disciplined way that prioritizes growth and return on capital while maintaining a fiscally conservative balance sheet. We believe that this is the clearest path to generating meaningful long-term value for our shareholders. I want to extend my sincere appreciation to our team members in all of our markets. Your dedication to serving our customers with respect and professionalism is the foundation of these outstanding results. Guided by our core values of people, pawn, and passion, we remain confident in our ability to scale with discipline, invest with purpose, and build on our momentum through fiscal 2026 and beyond to deliver sustained long-term value and superior returns for our shareholders. With that, operator, we'll open the line for questions.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, Tim. From a capital allocation perspective, our strategy remains consistent. Our priority is to build scale, given the significant global opportunity in pawn. We are going to do that in a disciplined way that prioritizes growth and return on capital while maintaining a fiscally conservative balance sheet. We believe that this is the clearest path to generating meaningful long-term value for our shareholders. I want to extend my sincere appreciation to our team members in all of our markets. Your dedication to serving our customers with respect and professionalism is the foundation of these outstanding results. Guided by our core values of people, pawn, and passion, we remain confident in our ability to scale with discipline, invest with purpose, and build on our momentum through fiscal 2026 and beyond to deliver sustained long-term value and superior returns for our shareholders. With that, operator, we'll open the line for questions.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Tim. From a capital remains consistent. Our priority is to build scale. Given allocation perspective, our strategy: Pawn. We are going to do that in a disciplined way that prioritizes, while maintaining a fiscally conservative balance sheet.
Speaker #2: We believe that this is the clearest path to generating growth and return on capital, meaningful long-term value for our shareholders. I want to extend my sincere appreciation to our team members in all of our markets.
Speaker #2: Your dedication to serving our customers with respect and professionalism is the foundation of these by our core values of people, Pawn, and passion, we remain confident in our ability to scale with discipline, invest with purpose, and build on our momentum through fiscal 2026 and beyond to deliver sustained long-term value and superior returns for our shareholders.
Speaker #2: With that, operator, we'll open the line for
Speaker #2: questions. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Brian McNamara with Canaccord Genuity. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. One moment for questions. Our first question comes from Brian McNamara with Canaccord Genuity. You may proceed.
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Speaker #3: One moment per question. And our first question comes from Brian McNamara with Canicore Genuity. You may
Speaker #3: proceed. Hey, good morning, guys.
Brian Christopher McNamara: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions, and congrats on another strong quarter here.
Brian McNamara: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions, and congrats on another strong quarter here.
Speaker #4: Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on another strong quarter here.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, Brian. Good morning.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, Brian. Good morning.
Speaker #4: Good Thanks, Brian. morning. Congrats on the SMG deal. equity interest there since October of I think you guys had a preferred '21. I'm curious why was now the right time to kind of take a controlling stake here?
Brian Christopher McNamara: So congrats on the SMG deal. I think you guys had a preferred equity interest there since October 2021. I'm curious, why was now the right time to kind of take a controlling stake here? To me, it sounded like you wanted to get that a little larger in terms of store count. Was it just a factor of just the bid-ask spread kind of narrowing to a point you were comfortable?
Brian McNamara: So congrats on the SMG deal. I think you guys had a preferred equity interest there since October 2021. I'm curious, why was now the right time to kind of take a controlling stake here? To me, it sounded like you wanted to get that a little larger in terms of store count. Was it just a factor of just the bid-ask spread kind of narrowing to a point you were comfortable?
Speaker #4: To me, it sounded like you wanted to get that a little larger in terms of store count. Was it just a factor of just the bid-ask spread kind of narrowing to a point you were comfortable?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think there were a bunch of things, and you've named a couple of them. I think the first one was, yeah, we wanted to give John and his team the ability to really scale the business quickly using leverage, and I think after being an investor for four or five years, we were comfortable that he'd done that, the team had done a really good job there.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, I think there were a bunch of things, and you've named a couple of them. I think the first one was, yeah, we wanted to give John and his team the ability to really scale the business quickly using leverage. And I think after being an investor for 4 or 5 years, we were comfortable that he'd done, that the team had done a really good job there. And I think so. From an operational perspective, we got very, very keen on the opportunity. I think, secondly, you've got to have a willing seller and a willing buyer as well. So on the timing side of it, the deal terms came together in a way that we thought would be really beneficial long-term for our shareholders. So I think, operationally, the time was right. Deal terms were right.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, I think there were a bunch of things, and you've named a couple of them. I think the first one was, yeah, we wanted to give John and his team the ability to really scale the business quickly using leverage. And I think after being an investor for 4 or 5 years, we were comfortable that he'd done, that the team had done a really good job there. And I think so. From an operational perspective, we got very, very keen on the opportunity. I think, secondly, you've got to have a willing seller and a willing buyer as well. So on the timing side of it, the deal terms came together in a way that we thought would be really beneficial long-term for our shareholders. So I think, operationally, the time was right. Deal terms were right.
Speaker #2: So on the timing side of it, the deal terms came together. beneficial long-term for our In a way that we thought would be really shareholders.
Speaker #2: So I think operationally, the time was right. Deal terms were right. And now we are deep into integration and partnering with John and his team on making sure that this is as good an acquisition as we think it can be, that has control environment at the center of what we're doing, but growth and de novo stores and a whole bunch of countries that EZCORP's never been in.
Lachlan Given: And now we are deep into integration and partnering with John and his team on making sure that this is as good an acquisition as we think it can be, that has control environment at the center of what we're doing, but growth. And De Novo stores and a whole bunch of countries that EZCORP's never been in. So we shared with you, Brian, and the whole market over the last couple of years that we thought this is the best opportunity out there for EZCORP. So we're really excited that we've been able to solidify that for our shareholders and now get the earnings momentum throughout income statement that we'd never had before.
Lachlan Given: And now we are deep into integration and partnering with John and his team on making sure that this is as good an acquisition as we think it can be, that has control environment at the center of what we're doing, but growth. And De Novo stores and a whole bunch of countries that EZCORP's never been in. So we shared with you, Brian, and the whole market over the last couple of years that we thought this is the best opportunity out there for EZCORP. So we're really excited that we've been able to solidify that for our shareholders and now get the earnings momentum throughout income statement that we'd never had before.
Speaker #2: the whole market over the last couple of years that we So we shared with you, Brian, and thought this is the best opportunity out there for EZCORP.
Speaker #2: So we're really excited that we've been able to solidify that for our shareholders and now get the earnings momentum throughout income statement that we'd never had
Speaker #2: before. Great.
Brian Christopher McNamara: Great. And then just talking to you guys about capital allocation the last few quarters, it sounded like the M&A pipeline is pretty robust. So I'm curious, after the acquisition of SMG and El Bufalo, how does that pipeline look today and any changes in your capital allocation priorities here?
Brian McNamara: Great. And then just talking to you guys about capital allocation the last few quarters, it sounded like the M&A pipeline is pretty robust. So I'm curious, after the acquisition of SMG and El Bufalo, how does that pipeline look today and any changes in your capital allocation priorities here?
Speaker #4: And then just talking to you guys about capital allocation the last few quarters, it sounded like the M&A pipeline is pretty robust. So I'm curious, after the acquisition of SMG and El Buffalo, how does that pipeline look today?
Speaker #4: And any changes in your capital allocation priorities
Speaker #4: And any changes in your capital allocation priorities here? No, I think we've been
Lachlan Given: No, I think we've been really consistent on that in the last couple of years. I think we are, as I said in my remarks, scale is our number one priority. And so to your question, the M&A pipeline definitely remains strong. Clearly, we've taken the biggest one in North America, or one of the biggest ones in North America, out of that equation now by buying SMG. But it remains strong, particularly in Mexico and other Latin American countries. So look, while this opportunity, I keep saying, is a global one, we still think there is great opportunity in the markets that we're already in. And we're going to continue with this disciplined approach to all we're doing, which prioritizes growth but return on capital at the same time.
Lachlan Given: No, I think we've been really consistent on that in the last couple of years. I think we are, as I said in my remarks, scale is our number one priority. And so to your question, the M&A pipeline definitely remains strong. Clearly, we've taken the biggest one in North America, or one of the biggest ones in North America, out of that equation now by buying SMG. But it remains strong, particularly in Mexico and other Latin American countries. So look, while this opportunity, I keep saying, is a global one, we still think there is great opportunity in the markets that we're already in. And we're going to continue with this disciplined approach to all we're doing, which prioritizes growth but return on capital at the same time.
Speaker #2: really consistent on that in the last couple of years. I think we are as I said in my remarks, scale is our number one priority.
Speaker #2: And so to your question, the M&A pipeline definitely remains strong. Clearly, we've taken the biggest one in North America or one of the biggest ones in North America out of that equation now by buying SMG.
Speaker #2: But it remains strong, particularly in Mexico and other Latin American countries. So look, while this opportunity I keep saying is a global one, we still think there is great opportunity in the markets that we're already in.
Speaker #2: And we're going to take we're going to continue with this disciplined approach to all we're doing, which prioritizes growth but return on capital at the same time.
Lachlan Given: So we're going to maintain this balance of capital allocation strategy, which is scale, putting money into our existing business. You can see just how quickly we're growing organically. And so we need to fund that. We're going to balance that with some thoughtful return to our shareholders when we deem it appropriate. I think it's the same message. It's one of balance that I think you can see from these results, that prioritizing scale and growth is really working, and that's what I think is delivering such fantastic returns to our shareholders. I think the stock's up 80% in the last 12 months, and we're really excited about where we can go from here. We think we're phenomenally positioned for the remainder of this year. I'm just really looking forward to our team continuing to deliver on this business.
Lachlan Given: So we're going to maintain this balance of capital allocation strategy, which is scale, putting money into our existing business. You can see just how quickly we're growing organically. And so we need to fund that. We're going to balance that with some thoughtful return to our shareholders when we deem it appropriate. I think it's the same message. It's one of balance that I think you can see from these results, that prioritizing scale and growth is really working, and that's what I think is delivering such fantastic returns to our shareholders. I think the stock's up 80% in the last 12 months, and we're really excited about where we can go from here. We think we're phenomenally positioned for the remainder of this year. I'm just really looking forward to our team continuing to deliver on this business.
Speaker #2: We're going to maintain this balance—so, of capital allocation strategy—which is scale, putting money into our existing business. You can see just how quickly we're growing organically.
Speaker #2: And so we need to fund that. And we're going to balance that with some thoughtful return to our shareholders when we deem it appropriate.
Speaker #2: So I think it's the same message. It's one of balance. But I think you can see from these results that prioritizing scale and growth is really working.
Speaker #2: And that's what I think is delivering such fantastic returns to our the last 12 months. And we're really shareholders. excited about where we can go from here.
Speaker #2: We think, I think, the stock's up 80%, and we're phenomenally positioned for the remainder of this year. And I'm just really looking forward to our team continuing to deliver on this.
Speaker #2: business. So there's an expectation that this
Brian Christopher McNamara: So there's an expectation that this tax season's going to be a pretty big one in terms of refunds. I think it's $1,000 more per household. Typically, you have a loan paydown in the March quarter that we really haven't seen that seasonal aspect in a few years now. How are you guys planning for that, and what's your baseline expectation for Q2?
Brian McNamara: So there's an expectation that this tax season's going to be a pretty big one in terms of refunds. I think it's $1,000 more per household. Typically, you have a loan paydown in the March quarter that we really haven't seen that seasonal aspect in a few years now. How are you guys planning for that, and what's your baseline expectation for Q2?
Speaker #4: tax season is going to be a pretty big one in terms of refunds. I think it's a $1,000 more per household. Typically, you have a loan pay down in the March quarter that we really haven't seen that seasonal aspect in a few years now.
Speaker #4: How are you guys planning for that? And what's your baseline expectation?
Speaker #2: Look, I saw your note. So thank you for that. I think Tim will make some remarks, but my perspective is you read a lot about it, a lot of people have very different views.
Lachlan Given: Look, I saw your notes, so thank you for that. I think Tim will make some remarks, but my perspective is you read a lot about it. A lot of people have very different views. Then you've got to segment the market, right? You've got to look at the lower demographic market and what you think that tax return season's going to look like. But from a corporate perspective, we are preparing for daily what we've seen in the last few years. It might be a little different. Tim will walk you through that. But our focus is we can't control that. All we can control is serving our customers the best we can. And if tax refunds are bigger than normal, then clearly we'll probably see some higher loan paydown and give us the opportunity to sell some more.
Lachlan Given: Look, I saw your notes, so thank you for that. I think Tim will make some remarks, but my perspective is you read a lot about it. A lot of people have very different views. Then you've got to segment the market, right? You've got to look at the lower demographic market and what you think that tax return season's going to look like. But from a corporate perspective, we are preparing for daily what we've seen in the last few years. It might be a little different. Tim will walk you through that. But our focus is we can't control that. All we can control is serving our customers the best we can. And if tax refunds are bigger than normal, then clearly we'll probably see some higher loan paydown and give us the opportunity to sell some more.
Speaker #2: Then you've got to segment the market, right? You've got to look at the lower demographic market and what you think that tax return season is going to look like.
Speaker #2: But from a corporate perspective, we are preparing for daily. What we've seen in the last few years, it might be a little different. Tim will walk you through that.
Speaker #2: But our focus is we can't control that. All we can control is serving our customers the best we can. And if tax refunds are bigger than normal, then clearly we'll probably see some higher loan pay down and give us the opportunity to sell some more.
Speaker #2: But my personal view is that I'm not expecting some monumental change here for our customer demographic. But I can't predict that. But Tim, anything you want to add?
Lachlan Given: But my personal view is that I'm not expecting some monumental change here for our customer demographic, but I can't predict that. But Tim, anything you want to add?
Lachlan Given: But my personal view is that I'm not expecting some monumental change here for our customer demographic, but I can't predict that. But Tim, anything you want to add?
Speaker #3: Yeah, that's exactly how we prepare. This is a daily business. Dealing with customer change. And so the if there's extra if there is extra cash, the team knows how to deal with it.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah, that's exactly how we prepare. This is a daily business dealing with customer demands that do change. And so if there is extra cash, the team knows how to deal with it. And if there's less, the team knows how to deal with it. So they're prepared for any direction. But as Lachlan said, we've generally seen in the US pawn business going from December to March, an 8-9% decrease in PLO in the last couple of years. It does look like it's going to be slightly higher than that, reading various papers, which I think a few of them are really targeting to say that this lower demographic is probably not going to get as a bigger percentage, but it will be slightly higher than prior years.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah, that's exactly how we prepare. This is a daily business dealing with customer demands that do change. And so if there is extra cash, the team knows how to deal with it. And if there's less, the team knows how to deal with it. So they're prepared for any direction. But as Lachlan said, we've generally seen in the US pawn business going from December to March, an 8-9% decrease in PLO in the last couple of years. It does look like it's going to be slightly higher than that, reading various papers, which I think a few of them are really targeting to say that this lower demographic is probably not going to get as a bigger percentage, but it will be slightly higher than prior years.
Speaker #3: And if there's less, the team knows how to deal with it. So they prepared for any direction. But as Lucky said, we've generally seen porn business going from December to March 8, 9% decrease in PLO in the last couple of years.
Speaker #3: look like it's going to be slightly higher than It does that. Reading various papers, which I think a few of them are really targeting to say that this lower demographic is probably not going to get as a bigger slightly higher than prior percentage.
Speaker #3: But there will be
Speaker #3: But there will be
Speaker #3: years.
Speaker #4: Great. And then last one for me before I get—
Brian Christopher McNamara: Great. And last one for me before I get back into Q here. I'm assuming you guys are talking to new investors, just given what the stock's done over the last year. And I feel like I'm talking to a lot more new investors as it relates to the industry as well. So how should investors new to the industry think about the price of gold here and any inherent risk to your business should it move meaningfully lower? What kind of buffer is typically embedded in your loan book relative to the price of the underlying commodity? Thank you.
Brian McNamara: Great. And last one for me before I get back into Q here. I'm assuming you guys are talking to new investors, just given what the stock's done over the last year. And I feel like I'm talking to a lot more new investors as it relates to the industry as well. So how should investors new to the industry think about the price of gold here and any inherent risk to your business should it move meaningfully lower? What kind of buffer is typically embedded in your loan book relative to the price of the underlying commodity? Thank you.
Speaker #4: back in the queue here. I'm assuming you guys are talking to new investors just given what the stocks done over the last year. And I feel like I'm talking a lot more
Speaker #4: To the industry, think about the price of gold here and any inherent risk to your business should it move meaningfully—well, lower. What kind of buffer is typically embedded? So how should investors view your loan book relative to the price of the underlying commodity?
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Well, thank you, Brian. Look, on your first comment, we're absolutely seeing a lot more interest activity in firstly in the industry and then secondly in our stock.
Lachlan Given: Thank you, Brian. Look, on your first comment, we're absolutely seeing a lot more interest activity, firstly, in the industry and then secondly, in our stock. We are seeing big, active, fundamental, long-only funds showing much more interest and becoming shareholders if they hadn't been previously. They're new to the story. So I've been incredibly excited by that. I think it's been a real change over the last 12 months, and I'm very happy to see us creating some value for them. And as you know, I think the stock is fundamentally underpriced because we are growing so rapidly. We are fiscally conservative. We have a lot of liquidity. We have no short or medium-term debt maturity. So I think the business is set up fundamentally for a really phenomenal future.
Lachlan Given: Thank you, Brian. Look, on your first comment, we're absolutely seeing a lot more interest activity, firstly, in the industry and then secondly, in our stock. We are seeing big, active, fundamental, long-only funds showing much more interest and becoming shareholders if they hadn't been previously. They're new to the story. So I've been incredibly excited by that. I think it's been a real change over the last 12 months, and I'm very happy to see us creating some value for them. And as you know, I think the stock is fundamentally underpriced because we are growing so rapidly. We are fiscally conservative. We have a lot of liquidity. We have no short or medium-term debt maturity. So I think the business is set up fundamentally for a really phenomenal future.
Speaker #2: We are seeing big active showing much more interest and becoming fundamental long-only fund shareholders if they hadn't been previously. They're new to the story.
Speaker #2: So I've been incredibly excited by that. I think it's been a real change over the last 12 months. And I'm very happy to see us creating some value for them.
Speaker #2: And as you know, I think the stock is because we are growing so rapidly. We are fiscally conservative. We have a lot of liquidity.
Speaker #2: We have no short or medium-term debt maturity, so I think the business is set up fundamentally for a really phenomenal future. And as I said, I'm very, very happy to see long-only, sort of household-name funds getting interested or buying stock.
Lachlan Given: And as I said, I'm very, very happy to see these new long-only sort of household-name funds getting interested or buying stock. On your second question on gold, look, Tim, why don't you want to give that one a crack?
Lachlan Given: And as I said, I'm very, very happy to see these new long-only sort of household-name funds getting interested or buying stock. On your second question on gold, look, Tim, why don't you want to give that one a crack?
Speaker #2: gold, look, On your second question on Tim, you want to give that one a crack?
Speaker #3: Yep. So from a PLO perspective, the jewelry part of the business is 68% in the quarter. And in Latin America, it was 47%. Both of those are up from last year.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah. So from a PLO perspective, the jewelry part of the business is 68% in the quarter, and in Latin America, it was 47%. Both of those are up from last year. So we do see that customers are bringing in more gold, as can be expected. So we do see, with the gold price increasing, there is some it does create activity from a customer perspective where they do bring in more gold. They're getting greater value for the gold they bring in. They also bring in gold to sell. So the amount that we're purchasing is also increased. From a risk perspective, when we lend on gold, we're not adjusting daily. We're looking at longer-term trends. So the recent up and down of the gold price in the last week, no effect whatsoever. So we're really looking at long-term trends.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah. So from a PLO perspective, the jewelry part of the business is 68% in the quarter, and in Latin America, it was 47%. Both of those are up from last year. So we do see that customers are bringing in more gold, as can be expected. So we do see, with the gold price increasing, there is some it does create activity from a customer perspective where they do bring in more gold. They're getting greater value for the gold they bring in. They also bring in gold to sell. So the amount that we're purchasing is also increased. From a risk perspective, when we lend on gold, we're not adjusting daily. We're looking at longer-term trends. So the recent up and down of the gold price in the last week, no effect whatsoever. So we're really looking at long-term trends.
Speaker #3: So we do see that customers are bringing in more gold as can be expected. So we do see with the gold price increasing, there is some does create activity from a customer perspective where they do bring in more gold.
Speaker #3: They're getting greater value for the gold they bring in. But they also are bringing in gold to sell. So the amount that we purchasing is also increased.
Speaker #3: From a risk perspective, we looking when we lend on gold, we've not adjusting daily. We're looking at longer-term trends. So the recent up and down of the gold price in the last week, no effect whatsoever.
Speaker #3: So we're really looking at long-term trends. So we build in and also we're not lending at the rate we're going to scrap at. So there is some margin already built in to what we can do.
Timothy K. Jugmans: So we build in, and also, we're not lending at the rate we're going to scrap at. So there is a margin already built in to what we can do. And you can see that in our long-term sales margins. Where we do have some upside at the moment is on the scrap margins where we lent some of the gold that we're scrapping, we lent a year ago, is obviously a very different price now. And so those margins, they're 25% to 35% on those scrap margins, which is a temporary nature until gold stabilizes.
Timothy K. Jugmans: So we build in, and also, we're not lending at the rate we're going to scrap at. So there is a margin already built in to what we can do. And you can see that in our long-term sales margins. Where we do have some upside at the moment is on the scrap margins where we lent some of the gold that we're scrapping, we lent a year ago, is obviously a very different price now. And so those margins, they're 25% to 35% on those scrap margins, which is a temporary nature until gold stabilizes.
Speaker #3: And you can see that in our long-term sales, where we do have some upside at the moment is on the scrap margins, where we lent some of the gold that we're scrapping—very different price now.
Speaker #3: And so those lent a year ago. It's obviously a margins they're 25 to 35% on those scrap margins. Which is a temporary nature until gold stabilizes.
Speaker #4: Very helpful. Thank you, guys. Best of luck.
Brian Christopher McNamara: Very helpful. Thank you, guys. Best of luck.
Brian McNamara: Very helpful. Thank you, guys. Best of luck.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, Brian.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, Brian.
Speaker #3: Brian. Thank Thanks,
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from David Scharf with Citizens Capital Markets. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from David Scharf with Citizens Capital Markets. You may proceed.
Speaker #2: you. Our next question
Speaker #4: comes from David Sharpe with Citizens Capital Markets. He may proceed.
Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. This is Zach Osteron for David. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the strong quarter. I wanted to dig in a little bit on the growth side of things.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Hey, good morning. This is Zachary Osheroff for David. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the strong quarter. I wanted to dig in a little bit on the growth side of things. With the 11 new countries that are part of the SMG acquisition, I wanted to see if we can get some additional color on the growth potential in those specific new geographies, both in the nearer term and the longer term.
[Analyst] (Citizens Capital Markets): Hey, good morning. This is Zachary Osheroff for David. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the strong quarter. I wanted to dig in a little bit on the growth side of things. With the 11 new countries that are part of the SMG acquisition, I wanted to see if we can get some additional color on the growth potential in those specific new geographies, both in the nearer term and the longer term.
Speaker #5: With the 11 new countries that are part of the S&G acquisition, I wanted to see if we can get some additional color on the growth potential in those specific new geographies, both in the near term and the longer term.
Speaker #2: Yeah, look, thanks, Zach. So there is obviously 11 new countries, but there is Florida and Puerto Rico. SMG's—most of the SMG business, or the largest part of the SMG business, is in those two regions.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, look, thanks, Zach. So there is obviously 11 new countries, but Florida and Puerto Rico is really where SMG's most of the SMG business, or the largest part of the SMG business, is in those two regions. So I think we're looking at we do, as you say, have 11 new countries, but some of them are relatively small in the Caribbean. So what I would say to you is that Puerto Rico represents probably, at this point, the most significant opportunity for SMG. They are already, it might be 25, 26 stores, something like that.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, look, thanks, Zach. So there is obviously 11 new countries, but Florida and Puerto Rico is really where SMG's most of the SMG business, or the largest part of the SMG business, is in those two regions. So I think we're looking at we do, as you say, have 11 new countries, but some of them are relatively small in the Caribbean. So what I would say to you is that Puerto Rico represents probably, at this point, the most significant opportunity for SMG. They are already, it might be 25, 26 stores, something like that.
Speaker #2: at we do, as you say, have 11 new So I think we're looking countries, but some of them are relatively small in the Caribbean so what I would say to you is that Puerto Rico represents probably at this point the most significant opportunity for 25, 26 stores, something like
Speaker #2: that. 29 stores. 29 stores with the potential to have I think significantly more there. I think that's a really strong market. And now that I mean, we've only owned it a couple of weeks.
Operator: 29 stores.
Timothy K. Jugmans: 29 stores.
Lachlan Given: 29 stores with the potential to have, I think, significantly more than there. I think that's a really strong market. And now that, I mean, we've only owned it a couple of weeks. So we are assessing the opportunities across Panama, Costa Rica, and those other Caribbean countries. But this SMG team have built their careers on De Novos. They built Value Pawn in Florida, which is now our largest business. We bought that from them in 2009. That was almost entirely a De Novo chain that we paid $120 million for those years ago. So this is a team that is very good at De Novo store build-outs. So that's what we're looking for from them. I think we're going to do that in a disciplined and focused way, though, because it does drag earnings.
Lachlan Given: 29 stores with the potential to have, I think, significantly more than there. I think that's a really strong market. And now that, I mean, we've only owned it a couple of weeks. So we are assessing the opportunities across Panama, Costa Rica, and those other Caribbean countries. But this SMG team have built their careers on De Novos. They built Value Pawn in Florida, which is now our largest business. We bought that from them in 2009. That was almost entirely a De Novo chain that we paid $120 million for those years ago. So this is a team that is very good at De Novo store build-outs. So that's what we're looking for from them. I think we're going to do that in a disciplined and focused way, though, because it does drag earnings.
Speaker #2: So we are assessing the opportunities across Panama, Costa Rica, and those other Caribbean countries. But this SMG team have built their careers on de novos.
Speaker #2: They built value porn in Florida, which is now our largest business. We bought that from them in 2009. That was almost entirely a de novo chain that we paid $120 million for.
Speaker #2: Those years ago. So this is a team that is very good at de novo door builds out. So that's what we're looking for from them.
Speaker #2: I think we're going to do that in a disciplined and focused way, though, because it does drag earnings. But over the medium to long term, it's exactly what we need to be doing to demonstrate growth to our shareholders.
Lachlan Given: But over the medium to long term, it's exactly what we need to be doing to demonstrate growth to our shareholders. So look, I think while SMG still represents a relatively small part of the EZCORP business, I think those new markets represent some really strong opportunities. I think it'll be done mainly through De Novos. There'll be some acquisition opportunities as well. But look, we're a few weeks in. We're working really well with the management team there. And I think, as I said, while still relatively small, it's certainly capable of being a very large business that we're excited about.
Lachlan Given: But over the medium to long term, it's exactly what we need to be doing to demonstrate growth to our shareholders. So look, I think while SMG still represents a relatively small part of the EZCORP business, I think those new markets represent some really strong opportunities. I think it'll be done mainly through De Novos. There'll be some acquisition opportunities as well. But look, we're a few weeks in. We're working really well with the management team there. And I think, as I said, while still relatively small, it's certainly capable of being a very large business that we're excited about.
Speaker #2: So, look, I think while SMG still represents a relatively small part of the EZCORP business, I think those new markets represent some really strong opportunities.
Speaker #2: I think it'll be done mainly through de novos. There'll be some acquisition opportunities as well, but look, we're a few weeks in. We're working really well with the management team there.
Speaker #2: And I think, as I said, while still relatively small, it's certainly capable of being a very large business that we're excited
Speaker #2: about. Understood.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Understood. I wanted to follow up with one more growth-related question. Just in the US specifically, I wanted to drill down and just see what the M&A outlook is for kind of these 5+, 10+ store chains.
[Analyst] (Citizens Capital Markets): Understood. I wanted to follow up with one more growth-related question. Just in the US specifically, I wanted to drill down and just see what the M&A outlook is for kind of these 5+, 10+ store chains.
Speaker #5: I wanted to follow up with one more growth-related question. Just in the U.S. specifically, I wanted to drill down and just see what the M&A outlook is for kind of these 5-plus, 10-plus store chains.
Speaker #2: Yeah, look, there aren't many of those left. I've got to say, there's some. But I would SMG deal, I would say that the US is more in the single-digit stores now.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, look, there aren't many of those left, I've got to say. There's some. But I would say that the US, following the SMG deal, I would say that the US is, it's more in the single-digit stores now. It's kind of we need to get good at consistently buying 1s, 2s, and 3s. And as you say, if any of the kind of the 5s to 15s come up, we'll take a good look at them. But as we've demonstrated to everyone, we're going to do that in a really disciplined way that prioritizes return on capital. So I think the more M&A opportunities are sort of Latin America and beyond, but we will absolutely stay active in the US. I just think with the SMG deal done and El Bufalo as well, there's 12 stores in Texas where those opportunities are starting to be less and less.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, look, there aren't many of those left, I've got to say. There's some. But I would say that the US, following the SMG deal, I would say that the US is, it's more in the single-digit stores now. It's kind of we need to get good at consistently buying 1s, 2s, and 3s. And as you say, if any of the kind of the 5s to 15s come up, we'll take a good look at them. But as we've demonstrated to everyone, we're going to do that in a really disciplined way that prioritizes return on capital. So I think the more M&A opportunities are sort of Latin America and beyond, but we will absolutely stay active in the US. I just think with the SMG deal done and El Bufalo as well, there's 12 stores in Texas where those opportunities are starting to be less and less.
Speaker #2: It's kind of consistently buying ones, twos, and say that the US following the threes. And if, as you say, if any of the kind of the 5 to 15s come up, we'll take a good look at them.
Speaker #2: But as we've we need to get good at disciplined way that prioritizes return on capital. So I think the more M&A opportunities are sort of Latin America and beyond, but we will absolutely stay active in the US.
Speaker #2: I just think with the SMG deal done and El Buffalo, as well as 12 stores in Texas, where those opportunities are starting to be less and—
Speaker #2: less. Great.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Great. Thank you very much.
[Analyst] (Citizens Capital Markets): Great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #5: Thank you very much.
Speaker #2: Thanks,
Lachlan Given: Thanks, Zach.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, Zach.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Scott with Roth Capital Partners. He may
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Scott with Roth Capital Partners. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Scott with Roth Capital Partners. You may proceed.
Speaker #4: proceed. Hey,
Andrew Scutt: Hey, good morning, guys. Congrats on the strong results, and thanks for taking my questions. You guys have been talking a lot about jewelry, scrapping margins, but you guys did post some really nice numbers in LatAm, and I know that's been a focus recently. So can you just kind of talk about the progress you've seen in LatAm kind of getting the jewelry business up to speed with what you're seeing in the US?
Andrew Scutt: Hey, good morning, guys. Congrats on the strong results, and thanks for taking my questions. You guys have been talking a lot about jewelry, scrapping margins, but you guys did post some really nice numbers in LatAm, and I know that's been a focus recently. So can you just kind of talk about the progress you've seen in LatAm kind of getting the jewelry business up to speed with what you're seeing in the US?
Speaker #6: good morning, guys. Congrats on the strong results and thanks for taking my questions. Guys, we've been talking a lot about jewelry, scrapping margins, but you guys did post some really nice numbers in Latin and I know that's been a focus recently.
Speaker #6: So can you just kind of talk about the progress you've seen in Latin kind of getting the jewelry business up to speed with what you're seeing in the
Speaker #6: US? Yeah, it's a really good question.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, it's a really good question. I think it's one of the real highlights of these results. As I said in my remarks, this is probably the best quarter I've seen in EZCORP and potentially one of the best in its 35-year history. It's a phenomenal set of results. And one of the real highlights, as you point out, is Latin America. And it's not just the sheer growth. We're seeing phenomenal organic growth. But what's really pleasing is just the balance of that growth, the balance in PLO, the balance in inventory, net revenue, and then profit. I think it's just a real testament to Blair and his leadership team down there to have delivered these results. As you also said, we are seeing jewelry become a bigger proportion of our PLO and inventory, and that's clearly by design.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, it's a really good question. I think it's one of the real highlights of these results. As I said in my remarks, this is probably the best quarter I've seen in EZCORP and potentially one of the best in its 35-year history. It's a phenomenal set of results. And one of the real highlights, as you point out, is Latin America. And it's not just the sheer growth. We're seeing phenomenal organic growth. But what's really pleasing is just the balance of that growth, the balance in PLO, the balance in inventory, net revenue, and then profit. I think it's just a real testament to Blair and his leadership team down there to have delivered these results. As you also said, we are seeing jewelry become a bigger proportion of our PLO and inventory, and that's clearly by design.
Speaker #2: I think it's one of the real highlights of these results. As I said in my remarks, this is probably the best quarter I've seen at EZ and potentially one of the best in its 35-year history.
Speaker #2: It's a phenomenal set of results. And one of the real highlights, as you point out, is Latin America. And it's not just the sheer growth.
Speaker #2: We're seeing phenomenal organic growth, but what's really pleasing is just the balance of that growth. The balance in PLO, the balance in inventory, net revenue, and then profit.
Speaker #2: I think it's just a real testament to Blair and his leadership team down there to have delivered these results. As you also said, we are seeing jewelry become a bigger proportion of our PLO and inventory, and that's clearly by design.
Speaker #2: We are spending a lot of time training our teams down there that this is such a huge opportunity down in that market. And I think irrespective of gold price, it has just been too small a part of our business.
Lachlan Given: We are spending a lot of time training our teams down there that this is such a huge opportunity down in that market. I think, irrespective of gold price, it has just been too small a part of our business. So I think we're showing some really great not only numbers, but just behaviors in our stores that it's becoming much more a significant strength of our business in Mexico and of our teams that we can lend on jewelry. That's been super pleasing as well.
Lachlan Given: We are spending a lot of time training our teams down there that this is such a huge opportunity down in that market. I think, irrespective of gold price, it has just been too small a part of our business. So I think we're showing some really great not only numbers, but just behaviors in our stores that it's becoming much more a significant strength of our business in Mexico and of our teams that we can lend on jewelry. That's been super pleasing as well.
Speaker #2: And so I think we're showing great not only numbers, but some really just behaviors in our stores that it's becoming much more a significant strength of our business in Mexico and of our teams that we can lend on jewelry.
Speaker #2: So that's been super pleasing as well.
Speaker #3: I'd add to that that it's not just jewelry, right? We talk about jewelry and improving that because that's easier to see in the numbers.
Timothy K. Jugmans: I'd add to that that it's not just jewelry, right? We talk about jewelry and improving that because that's easier to see in the numbers. But the general merchandise part of that LatAm business continues to go from strength to strength as well. So the combination of those two is really driving that amazing bottom-line performance.
Timothy K. Jugmans: I'd add to that that it's not just jewelry, right? We talk about jewelry and improving that because that's easier to see in the numbers. But the general merchandise part of that LatAm business continues to go from strength to strength as well. So the combination of those two is really driving that amazing bottom-line performance.
Speaker #3: But the general merchandise part of that Latin business continues to go strength to strength as well. So that amazing bottom-line performance.
Speaker #3: But the general merchandise part of that Latin business continues to go strength to strength as well. So that amazing bottom-line performance.
Andrew Scutt: Thanks for the color there. And good segue to my second question, Tim. On just the general merchandise, I know there's some seasonality in the quarter with the holidays, but we saw a nice bump in the margins there. So can you just kind of talk to the margins in the quarter, the GM margins, that is?
Andrew Scutt: Thanks for the color there. And good segue to my second question, Tim. On just the general merchandise, I know there's some seasonality in the quarter with the holidays, but we saw a nice bump in the margins there. So can you just kind of talk to the margins in the quarter, the GM margins, that is?
Speaker #6: to my second question. Tim, Thanks And good segue on just the general merchandise, I quarter with the holidays. But know there's some seasonality in the we saw a nice bump in the margins there.
Speaker #6: So can you just kind of talk to the margins in the quarter GM margins, that is?
Speaker #3: Yeah, the GM margins are still well, overall margins are still on merchandise sales margins are still on a lower end of what we think we can achieve.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah, the GM margins are still, well, overall, merchandise sales margins are still on our lower end of what we think we can achieve. But it was up from last year. I think it's just a testament to our teams in all geographies really doing a great job at the sales counter and continuing to sell fresh velocity, which is creating that.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah, the GM margins are still, well, overall, merchandise sales margins are still on our lower end of what we think we can achieve. But it was up from last year. I think it's just a testament to our teams in all geographies really doing a great job at the sales counter and continuing to sell fresh velocity, which is creating that.
Speaker #3: But it was up from last year. The I think it's just a testament to our teams in all geographies really doing a great job at the sales counter and continuing to sell fresh velocity which
Speaker #2: And I think what I'd add, Tim, is that we're doing a much better
Lachlan Given: I think what I'd add, Tim, is that we're doing a much better job of using data and AI to lend better at the counter. And that has the downstream impact, all sorts of impact on inventory, on margin, and on turns. And so at the corporate office, we're employing, I think, much more sophisticated thinking around pricing using AI and deep data machine learning to make sure that we're giving our store managers the best thinking on how to lend. So I think that's also starting to really have an impact on what you're seeing on sales margin.
Lachlan Given: I think what I'd add, Tim, is that we're doing a much better job of using data and AI to lend better at the counter. And that has the downstream impact, all sorts of impact on inventory, on margin, and on turns. And so at the corporate office, we're employing, I think, much more sophisticated thinking around pricing using AI and deep data machine learning to make sure that we're giving our store managers the best thinking on how to lend. So I think that's also starting to really have an impact on what you're seeing on sales margin.
Speaker #2: job of using data and AI to lend better at the counter. And that has the down-the-flow impact all sorts of impact on inventory, on margin, and on that.
Speaker #2: turns. And so we're at the corporate
Speaker #2: office, we're employing I think around pricing using AI is creating and deep data machine learning to make sure that we're giving our store managers the best thinking on how to lend.
Speaker #2: So I think that's also starting to really have an impact on what you're seeing on sales much more sophisticated thinking margin.
Andrew Scutt: Very well. Thanks for taking my questions, and congrats again on the strong results.
Andrew Scutt: Very well. Thanks for taking my questions, and congrats again on the strong results.
Speaker #6: and congrats again on that strong
Lachlan Given: Thanks, mate.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, mate.
Speaker #2: Matt.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jonathan Waite with Jefferies. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jonathan Waite with Jefferies. You may proceed.
Speaker #4: you. Our next question comes from Jonathan Weitz with Jefferies. He may proceed.
Speaker #5: Hey,
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Hey, guys. Congrats on the results. I'm on for John today, but thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to go back to the margins and kind of the question that was just asked. With the strong performance this quarter, we were just curious how much of that should we think about we'll maintain with gold prices changing, and what are the other factors, aside from what you just mentioned, that are contributing to that strong performance?
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Hey, guys. Congrats on the results. I'm on for John today, but thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to go back to the margins and kind of the question that was just asked. With the strong performance this quarter, we were just curious how much of that should we think about we'll maintain with gold prices changing, and what are the other factors, aside from what you just mentioned, that are contributing to that strong performance?
Speaker #5: guys. Congrats on the results. I'm home
Speaker #5: the margins and kind of the question that asked. With the strong performance this was just quarter, we were just curious how much of that should we think about Very well.
Speaker #5: gold prices
Speaker #5: changing? And what are the other Thanks for taking my questions are contributing to that strong performance?
Speaker #3: I think our comments have in the last couple of quarters have always in the lower end of the range, and it will move around a the strongest bit.
Timothy K. Jugmans: I think our comments over the last couple of quarters have always been that we're going to continue to operate in the lower end of the range, and it will move around a bit. This is obviously the strongest quarter of the year with a lot of demand through the holiday season for buying items, which does create momentum in the margins. But we continue to work on what happens on the sales floor is what happens on pricing in our back rooms and trying to figure out the best way forward. Our focus is really on making sure that turns continue to be strong, that our stores continue to have fresh inventory in them for our customers, and it continues to grow the business.
Timothy K. Jugmans: I think our comments over the last couple of quarters have always been that we're going to continue to operate in the lower end of the range, and it will move around a bit. This is obviously the strongest quarter of the year with a lot of demand through the holiday season for buying items, which does create momentum in the margins. But we continue to work on what happens on the sales floor is what happens on pricing in our back rooms and trying to figure out the best way forward. Our focus is really on making sure that turns continue to be strong, that our stores continue to have fresh inventory in them for our customers, and it continues to grow the business.
Speaker #3: quarter of the holiday season items. Which does for buying create momentum in the margins. work on what happens on But we continue to This is obviously year, with a lot in and trying to figure out the best way forward.
Speaker #3: Our focus is really on making sure that turns continue to be strong. That our stores continue to have fresh inventory in them. For our customers and continues to grow the
Speaker #2: Well, I think we don't manage the business as we've said to the market. We don't manage the business by sales margin. We are, as Tim said, focused on turns.
Lachlan Given: So I think we don't manage the business, as we've said to the market. We don't manage the business by sales margin. We are, as Tim said, focused on turns and minimizing aged. But it's really all about turns. So it's a really strong result on the margin side, but we want to make sure, as Tim said, that we keep turning this inventory because, as the market knows, if you're not doing that, that's what starts to negatively impact your business. But very strong quarter on margin.
Lachlan Given: So I think we don't manage the business, as we've said to the market. We don't manage the business by sales margin. We are, as Tim said, focused on turns and minimizing aged. But it's really all about turns. So it's a really strong result on the margin side, but we want to make sure, as Tim said, that we keep turning this inventory because, as the market knows, if you're not doing that, that's what starts to negatively impact your business. But very strong quarter on margin.
Speaker #2: And minimizing aged, but it's really all about turns. So it's a really strong result on the margin side, but we want to make sure, as Tim said, that we keep turning this inventory, because as the market knows, if you're not doing that, that's what starts to negatively impact your business.
Speaker #2: But strong, very strong quarter on.
Speaker #5: Definitely. Really strong quarter. And then just one follow-up, kind of going back to one of the first questions asked. You still have a lot of cash on hand.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Definitely. Really strong quarter. And then just one follow-up, kind of going back to one of the first questions asked. Around the M&A pipeline, you'll still have a lot of cash on hand. And I was just curious, in terms of capital allocation, how y'all were thinking about the balance of growth investment, the debt repayment, and also the shareholder return through the rest of the year.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Definitely. Really strong quarter. And then just one follow-up, kind of going back to one of the first questions asked. Around the M&A pipeline, you'll still have a lot of cash on hand. And I was just curious, in terms of capital allocation, how y'all were thinking about the balance of growth investment, the debt repayment, and also the shareholder return through the rest of the year.
Speaker #5: And I was just curious in terms of capital allocation, how you all were thinking about the balance of growth investment, the shareholder return. Through the rest of the year?
Speaker #5: debt repayment, and also the
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think of the keywords balance, and we've been consistent on
Lachlan Given: Yeah, I think of the keywords balance, and we've been consistent on that. In M&A, we've done 2 really strong acquisitions this quarter, and we've done a few the previous quarter as well. So I've got the team focused on making sure that integration is nailed. I think often you think the deal part's the big part, and it's just not that at all. You've got to really integrate these businesses to make sure that the growth potential and the return on capital is there for our shareholders. So I'd say, in the short term, nailing the integration is super important. But yeah, as I said earlier, the pipeline is still very strong. There are very large chains across Latin America that are capable of being bought if you can come to a reasonable price. So we will prioritize that.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, I think of the keywords balance, and we've been consistent on that. In M&A, we've done 2 really strong acquisitions this quarter, and we've done a few the previous quarter as well. So I've got the team focused on making sure that integration is nailed. I think often you think the deal part's the big part, and it's just not that at all. You've got to really integrate these businesses to make sure that the growth potential and the return on capital is there for our shareholders. So I'd say, in the short term, nailing the integration is super important. But yeah, as I said earlier, the pipeline is still very strong. There are very large chains across Latin America that are capable of being bought if you can come to a reasonable price. So we will prioritize that.
Speaker #2: that. In M&A, we've done two really strong acquisitions this quarter, and we've done a few So I've got the team focused on making sure that integration is nailed.
Speaker #2: I think part's the big part, and it's just not that at all. You've got to really integrate these businesses to make sure that the growth for our shareholders.
Speaker #2: So I'd potential and the return on capital is there say in the short term, nailing the integration is super important, often you think the deal very strong.
Speaker #2: There are very large chains but yeah, as I said across Latin America reasonable price. So we that are capable of means M&A as well as scaling our existing organic business, right?
Lachlan Given: We will prioritize scale, which means M&A, as well as scaling our existing organic business, right? It's hungry for capital because we're growing really nicely. So we'll prioritize that. At the moment, we have got no short or near-term debt repayments, which is obviously pleasing, and we have plenty of liquidity. And as I said, now that we're through these acquisitions, we'll be relooking at our share buyback program. So I think, to answer your question again, it's really balanced between those threes, but we are prioritizing growth and scale.
Lachlan Given: We will prioritize scale, which means M&A, as well as scaling our existing organic business, right? It's hungry for capital because we're growing really nicely. So we'll prioritize that. At the moment, we have got no short or near-term debt repayments, which is obviously pleasing, and we have plenty of liquidity. And as I said, now that we're through these acquisitions, we'll be relooking at our share buyback program. So I think, to answer your question again, it's really balanced between those threes, but we are prioritizing growth and scale.
Speaker #2: It's hungry for capital because we're growing really nicely. So we'll prioritize being bought if you can come to that. At the moment, we have got no short- or near-term debt repayments.
Speaker #2: Which is obviously pleasing, and we have plenty of liquidity, and as I said, now that we're through these acquisitions, we will be relooking at our share buyback program.
Speaker #2: So I think to answer your question again, it's really balanced between those three. But we are prioritizing growth and
Speaker #2: scale. Great.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Great. Yep, that makes sense and is good to hear. I just had one last quick one. Going back to what you're saying about integration. So for the integration of Founders One, how should we think about expenses related to that, what the plan is, and how y'all plan to kind of leverage y'all's operational expertise that you've done for so many years over the next 12 months?
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Great. Yep, that makes sense and is good to hear. I just had one last quick one. Going back to what you're saying about integration. So for the integration of Founders One, how should we think about expenses related to that, what the plan is, and how y'all plan to kind of leverage y'all's operational expertise that you've done for so many years over the next 12 months?
Speaker #5: Yep, that makes sense. And it's good to hear. I just had one last quick one. Going back to what you're saying about integration, so for one, how should we think about expenses related to that?
Speaker #5: You all plan to kind of leverage what the plan is, and how all's operational expertise that you've done for so many years? Over the next 12 months?
Lachlan Given: Yeah, look, I think on the expense side, we'll announce next quarter will be our first quarter with SMG ownership. So that's when you'll see much more detail on the numbers. We've given numbers in the announcement of the deal. That's what we're prepared to give the market at the moment while we really get stuck into it in the first quarter of ownership. But you'll have much more visibility at the end of this current quarter on how SMG looks. And just from a high-level, expenses, it's sort of ups and downs, right? We expect to put some more expense into the control environment to make sure that the finance function, the legal function, the IT function all have the resource needed. But truthfully, my hope is that we can really leverage the existing EZ teams to make sure that there's not too much expense there.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, look, I think on the expense side, we'll announce next quarter will be our first quarter with SMG ownership. So that's when you'll see much more detail on the numbers. We've given numbers in the announcement of the deal. That's what we're prepared to give the market at the moment while we really get stuck into it in the first quarter of ownership. But you'll have much more visibility at the end of this current quarter on how SMG looks. And just from a high-level, expenses, it's sort of ups and downs, right? We expect to put some more expense into the control environment to make sure that the finance function, the legal function, the IT function all have the resource needed. But truthfully, my hope is that we can really leverage the existing EZ teams to make sure that there's not too much expense there.
Speaker #2: So, we'll announce next quarter will be our first quarter with SMG ownership. So that's when you'll—yeah, look, I think on the expense side, you'll see much more detail on the deal. That's what we're prepared to give the market at the moment while we really get stuck into it in the first quarter of ownership.
Speaker #2: But you'll have much more visibility at the end of this current quarter on how SMG looks and just from a high-level expenses the control environment to make sure that the finance function, the legal function, the IT right?
Speaker #2: truthfully, my hope is it's sort of ups and downs, needed but that we can really leverage the existing EZ teams to make sure that there's not too much expense there.
Speaker #2: But we're sort of taking—we expect to put some more expense into a very responsible approach to what we're doing there. It was a private company that now has to operate in a public company world.
Lachlan Given: But we're sort of taking a very responsible approach to what we're doing there. It was a private company that now has to operate in a public company world. But the great news for shareholders is that we think the revenue upside in working with John and his team, we think that EZCORP's operating initiatives and practices and playbooks should more than compensate for that expense base. So look, we'll be back at the end of the quarter with more detail on SMG numbers. They'll be in our reporting. But for now, let us sort of get deep into operating the business, and we'll be back at the end of the quarter.
Lachlan Given: But we're sort of taking a very responsible approach to what we're doing there. It was a private company that now has to operate in a public company world. But the great news for shareholders is that we think the revenue upside in working with John and his team, we think that EZCORP's operating initiatives and practices and playbooks should more than compensate for that expense base. So look, we'll be back at the end of the quarter with more detail on SMG numbers. They'll be in our reporting. But for now, let us sort of get deep into operating the business, and we'll be back at the end of the quarter.
Speaker #2: But the great news for shareholders is that we think the revenue upside in working with John and his team—we think that EZ sharing operating initiatives, practices, and playbooks should more than compensate for that expense base.
Speaker #2: So, look, we'll be back at the end of the quarter with more detail on SMG numbers. I'll be in our reporting. But for now, let us sort of get deep into operating the business, and we'll be back at the end of the quarter.
Speaker #5: Right. That makes sense. Thanks another great quarter. So I'll hop back in the
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Right. That makes sense. Thanks for the detail and another great quarter. So I'll hop back into queue.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Right. That makes sense. Thanks for the detail and another great quarter. So I'll hop back into queue.
Speaker #5: queue.
Speaker #2: Thanks for the
Lachlan Given: Thanks for the questions.
Lachlan Given: Thanks for the questions.
Speaker #2: questions. Thank you.
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Speaker #4: Hey,
Kyle Joseph: Hey, good morning, guys. Yeah, EZCORP, congrats on a strong quarter and the acquisitions as well. Most of my questions have been asked. I just want to focus on, I appreciate the color you gave on tax refunds in the US, but just kind of want to get a macro update on LatAm. Recognizing there's a number of countries there, but in terms of anything you'd highlight on wage growth or inflation in those geographies.
Kyle Joseph: Hey, good morning, guys. Yeah, EZCORP, congrats on a strong quarter and the acquisitions as well. Most of my questions have been asked. I just want to focus on, I appreciate the color you gave on tax refunds in the US, but just kind of want to get a macro update on LatAm. Recognizing there's a number of countries there, but in terms of anything you'd highlight on wage growth or inflation in those geographies.
Speaker #4: Echo, congrats on a good morning, guys. And yeah, strong quarter. And the well. Most of my questions acquisitions as proceed. on appreciate the color you gave on tax refunds in the US.
Speaker #4: But just kind of want to get a macro update on LatAm recognizing there's a number of countries there. But in terms have been asked.
Speaker #4: or inflation in those
Speaker #4: geographies. Yeah,
Lachlan Given: Yeah, thanks, Kyle. I mean, definitely, we saw obviously the impact of the minimum wage increase in Mexico, but we'd flag that to the market. We often speak to you guys, the analysts and shareholders and prospective investors. That was coming. It wasn't far off what we thought it was going to be. But of course, you can see it in the numbers. We have got inflated labor numbers down in Mexico. But with that, you can see this very, very strong growth across all that we're doing in Latin America. 10 years ago in pawnbroking, it was sort of a tale of two stories, right? You'd see pawn lending up, and you'd see sales down.
Lachlan Given: Yeah, thanks, Kyle. I mean, definitely, we saw obviously the impact of the minimum wage increase in Mexico, but we'd flag that to the market. We often speak to you guys, the analysts and shareholders and prospective investors. That was coming. It wasn't far off what we thought it was going to be. But of course, you can see it in the numbers. We have got inflated labor numbers down in Mexico. But with that, you can see this very, very strong growth across all that we're doing in Latin America. 10 years ago in pawnbroking, it was sort of a tale of two stories, right? You'd see pawn lending up, and you'd see sales down.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Kyle. And definitely we saw, obviously, the impact of the minimum wage increase in Mexico. But we'd flagged that to the market. We often speak to you guys—the analysts, shareholders, and investors.
Speaker #2: That was coming. It wasn't far off what we thought it was going to be. So, but of course, you can see it in the numbers.
Speaker #2: We are we have
Speaker #2: got inflated labor numbers down in Mexico. But with that, you can see this very, very strong growth across all I just want to focus that we're doing in Latin America.
Speaker #2: It's 10 years ago in pawnbroking, it was sort of a tale of two stories, right? You'd see poor lending up and you'd see sales down.
Speaker #2: What we've been seeing now over a number of years is that we're running a business that's got really strong growth in and prospective, while maintaining some pretty impressive lending and really strong growth in sales, sales margins.
Lachlan Given: What we've been seeing now over a number of years is that we're running a business that's got really strong growth in lending and really strong growth in sales while maintaining some pretty impressive sales margins. So look, yes, the expense base is up down there, but I think the revenue, and you can see the numbers. We're able to get that operating leverage out of this business. And even with the minimum wage growth, the numbers have sort of, particularly down in Latin America, have been phenomenal.
Lachlan Given: What we've been seeing now over a number of years is that we're running a business that's got really strong growth in lending and really strong growth in sales while maintaining some pretty impressive sales margins. So look, yes, the expense base is up down there, but I think the revenue, and you can see the numbers. We're able to get that operating leverage out of this business. And even with the minimum wage growth, the numbers have sort of, particularly down in Latin America, have been phenomenal.
Speaker #2: So look, yes, the expense base is up down there, but I think the revenue and you can see the you can see the numbers.
Speaker #2: It's we're able to business and even with the get that operating leverage out of this minimum wage growth, it's the numbers are sort of particularly down in Latin America have been phenomenal.
Speaker #1: Yeah, most of the effect is obviously Mexico. increased by 13% Mexico's minimum wage on January 1st. So that will start coming through in the next quarter.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah. Most of the effect is obviously Mexico's minimum wage increased by 13% on 1 January. So that will start coming through in the next quarter on top of last year's increases.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah. Most of the effect is obviously Mexico's minimum wage increased by 13% on 1 January. So that will start coming through in the next quarter on top of last year's increases.
Speaker #1: On top of last year's increases.
Kyle Joseph: Got it. Helpful. And then, Tim, I think you talked about earlier you manage this business almost on a day-to-day basis. On that note, I think tax refunds started hitting last week. Have you seen any, and you guys talked about your expectations for loan demand, but shifting over to the retail side of things, have you seen any kind of pickup in terms of retail sales domestically? Recognizing it's very early in the season.
Kyle Joseph: Got it. Helpful. And then, Tim, I think you talked about earlier you manage this business almost on a day-to-day basis. On that note, I think tax refunds started hitting last week. Have you seen any, and you guys talked about your expectations for loan demand, but shifting over to the retail side of things, have you seen any kind of pickup in terms of retail sales domestically? Recognizing it's very early in the season.
Speaker #4: it. Helpful. And then Tim, I think you talked about earlier, you manage this business almost on a day-to-day basis. On that note, I think tax refunds started hitting last week.
Speaker #4: Have you seen any and you guys talked about your expectations for loan demand, but shifting over to Got the retail side of things, have you seen any kind of pickup in terms of retail sales domestically?
Speaker #4: Recognizing it's very early in the season.
Speaker #1: Yeah, it's very early on. I think momentum out of the fourth quarter has been strong, so we're very happy with where we are today.
Speaker #1: Yeah, it's very early on. I think momentum out of the fourth quarter has been strong. So we're very happy with where we are
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah, it's very early on. I think momentum out of the Q4 has been strong. So we're very happy with where we are today.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah, it's very early on. I think momentum out of the Q4 has been strong. So we're very happy with where we are today.
Speaker #4: Great. Thanks very much for taking my—
Kyle Joseph: Great. Thanks very much for taking my questions.
Kyle Joseph: Great. Thanks very much for taking my questions.
Speaker #4: questions.
Speaker #2: Thanks,
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Thanks, Carl.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Thanks, Carl.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Kyle. Raj Sharma with Texas Capital Bank. You may
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Raj Sharma with B. Riley Securities. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Raj Sharma with B. Riley Securities. You may proceed.
Speaker #5: Hi. Thank you for
Lachlan Given: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Fantastic quarter. What a great beat. I just want to understand you've had the increase in revenues this quarter up 16%, just higher year over year, higher than mid-teens, higher than expected. Can you give some color on what you think that's purely the consumer feeling tight, or is it elevated gold prices, and do you expect this sort of organic growth to continue at this pace? Look, when you separate macro from what we're doing internally, let's start there. I think gold is clearly helpful. You can see that in the scrap numbers, and you can see that in the average line size. So that has clearly been a tailwind. But I think the real story here is what we're doing internally around everything that's going on inside the store, around serving customers. I think that's the main story.
Rajiv Sharma: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Fantastic quarter. What a great beat. I just want to understand you've had the increase in revenues this quarter up 16%, just higher year over year, higher than mid-teens, higher than expected. Can you give some color on what you think that's purely the consumer feeling tight, or is it elevated gold prices, and do you expect this sort of organic growth to continue at this pace?
Speaker #5: taking my questions. Fantastic quarter. What a great proceed. beat. I just want to increase in revenues this quarter up 16%, just higher year over year, higher than mid-teens, higher than expected.
Speaker #5: Is that can purely the consumer feeling Or is it elevated gold prices? And do you expect this sort of organic growth to continue at this
Speaker #5: pace? I think, look, when
Lachlan Given: Look, when you separate macro from what we're doing internally, let's start there. I think gold is clearly helpful. You can see that in the scrap numbers, and you can see that in the average line size. So that has clearly been a tailwind. But I think the real story here is what we're doing internally around everything that's going on inside the store, around serving customers. I think that's the main story.
Speaker #2: you separate macro from what we're doing internally, let's start there. I think gold is clearly helpful. You can that in the average loan size.
Speaker #2: see that in the scrap numbers and you can see But that has clearly been a tailwind. But I think the real story here is what we're around everything that's going on inside the store, around serving customers, I think that's the main story.
Lachlan Given: It's truly our operational execution that's what we've been doing. We've been at this as a team four years now. And I think the US has led the turnaround, but you can still see we have so much to do. You can see it in the organic growth. You can see it in our sales numbers and our margin improvements. So I think, yes, gold and the macro is supportive, but we don't sit around on our hands just hoping that the macro is going to improve. This is really an internally led story and an operational execution story. And in terms of do I think that's going to continue?
Lachlan Given: It's truly our operational execution that's what we've been doing. We've been at this as a team four years now. And I think the US has led the turnaround, but you can still see we have so much to do. You can see it in the organic growth. You can see it in our sales numbers and our margin improvements. So I think, yes, gold and the macro is supportive, but we don't sit around on our hands just hoping that the macro is going to improve. This is really an internally led story and an operational execution story. And in terms of do I think that's going to continue?
Speaker #2: operational execution that's we've been It's truly our doing internally now. And I think the US has doing. led the turnaround, but you We've been at this as a team four years can still see we have so much to do.
Speaker #2: You can see it in the organic growth. You can see it in our sales numbers and our margin improvement. So I think, yes, gold and the macro is supportive, but we don't sit to improve.
Speaker #2: This is really an internally led story. And an operational execution story. And in of do I think that's going to continue? Look, we don't guide the market as you think that there is in every store Blair and the rest of us walk into, we can see that even when they are best stores that make two or three terms improved.
Lachlan Given: Look, we don't guide the market, as you know, Raj, but I think that there is in every store Blair and the rest of us walk into, we can see that even when they are best stores that make $2 or 3 million a store, we can see stuff that can be improved. So my objective here is that we're going to grow these key metrics. And we're just seeing some, as Tim mentioned, momentum. And momentum builds on momentum. So the key job here is to concentrate on our people, make sure that they are incentivized the right way in stores, that we retain them, and that we give them career paths so that they want to stay because retention in our stores really is the key driver.
Lachlan Given: Look, we don't guide the market, as you know, Raj, but I think that there is in every store Blair and the rest of us walk into, we can see that even when they are best stores that make $2 or 3 million a store, we can see stuff that can be improved. So my objective here is that we're going to grow these key metrics. And we're just seeing some, as Tim mentioned, momentum. And momentum builds on momentum. So the key job here is to concentrate on our people, make sure that they are incentivized the right way in stores, that we retain them, and that we give them career paths so that they want to stay because retention in our stores really is the key driver.
Speaker #2: So my objective stuff that can be these key here is that we're going to grow and we're just seeing some as Tim mentioned, momentum.
Speaker #2: And momentum builds on momentum. So the key job here is to concentrate on our people, make sure that they are incentivized the right way—metrics in stores—that we retain those who want to stay, because retention in our stores really is the key driver.
Speaker #2: And I think our training and development and that we give them career paths so that they programs and then our youth in the more corporate store are much more AI, much digital initiatives that we're the whole industry is essentially backward on this area.
Lachlan Given: I think our training and development programs and then our use in the corporate store of much more AI, much more digital initiatives that the whole industry is essentially backward on this area. So I think selling online, interacting with customers digitally, there is just so much more here to do. And so while I'm not going to guide where I think organic growth can go, it is certainly our objective to not only grow through acquisition and de novo, but to grow these stores organically as well. Fantastic. And obviously, you guys are doing a great job. It's showing in the results. Just sort of how do you think of scrapping? Is that purely related to gold prices? How do we sort of think about it, modeling why this allocated percentage you want to scrap regardless of price?
Lachlan Given: I think our training and development programs and then our use in the corporate store of much more AI, much more digital initiatives that the whole industry is essentially backward on this area. So I think selling online, interacting with customers digitally, there is just so much more here to do. And so while I'm not going to guide where I think organic growth can go, it is certainly our objective to not only grow through acquisition and de novo, but to grow these stores organically as well.
Speaker #2: So I think selling online, interacting with customers digitally, there is just so much more here to do. And so while I'm not going to guide where I think organic growth can go, it is certainly our objective to not only grow through acquisition and de novo, but to grow these stores organically as well.
Rajiv Sharma: Fantastic. And obviously, you guys are doing a great job. It's showing in the results. Just sort of how do you think of scrapping? Is that purely related to gold prices? How do we sort of think about it, modeling why this allocated percentage you want to scrap regardless of price?
Speaker #5: Fantastic. And obviously, you guys are delivering great results. Just a short question: Is that showing up in the scrapping? Is that purely related to gold prices?
Speaker #5: How do we sort of think about it modeling-wise? Is it allocated percentage you want to scrap regardless of price?
Speaker #2: Tim, you want to take that?
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Tim, you want to take that?
Lachlan Given: Tim, you want to take that?
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah. So I'm going to answer. The way we look at scrapping is we scrap things that have been sitting in our stores close to a year, and then we scrap things that definitely quite a bit on purchases where people are buying where people are selling stuff to us that we don't think is sellable. So like a broken necklace, heavily personalized items, we'll start scrapping those pretty quickly. So those are the combination of what we scrap. So it really comes down to on the purchase side; it really comes down to what are people bringing in. So that is quite different. We're not just going to go scrap to make profits here. We are trying to sell as much jewelry in our stores as possible. And we really are just scrapping because of age liquidation.
Timothy K. Jugmans: Yeah. So I'm going to answer. The way we look at scrapping is we scrap things that have been sitting in our stores close to a year, and then we scrap things that definitely quite a bit on purchases where people are buying where people are selling stuff to us that we don't think is sellable. So like a broken necklace, heavily personalized items, we'll start scrapping those pretty quickly. So those are the combination of what we scrap. So it really comes down to on the purchase side; it really comes down to what are people bringing in. So that is quite different. We're not just going to go scrap to make profits here. We are trying to sell as much jewelry in our stores as possible. And we really are just scrapping because of age liquidation.
Speaker #1: So I'm Yeah. going to answer the way we were looking at scrapping. We scrap things that are being sitting in our stores close to a year.
Speaker #1: And then we scrap things that definitely quite a bit on purchases where people are buying, where people are, that we don't think is sellable.
Speaker #1: So, like a broken necklace, heavily personalized selling-stuff-to-us items—we'll start scrapping those pretty quickly. So those are the combination of what we scrap.
Speaker #1: So it really comes down to, on the purchase side, it really comes down to what are people bringing in. So that is quite different.
Speaker #1: This is not we're not just going to go scrap to make profits here. We are trying to sell as much jewelry in our stores as possible.
Speaker #1: And we really are just scrapping because of age liquidation.
Lachlan Given: So it's the way we manage our inventory rather than the way to manipulate profit or loss. We're going to scrap to make money. Once we scrap, we're going to make money. But it's the way Blair talks about it is it's how we actively manage our inventory rather than we're going to scrap X percent of some measure. Got it. So whether gold is down a lot or up a lot, that shouldn't really impact scrapping. It's what's going on internally, right? Okay. And then just lastly, is it reasonable to think that something like Cash Converters would be kind of next? Do you have a planned amount of M&A that you want to do every year?
Lachlan Given: So it's the way we manage our inventory rather than the way to manipulate profit or loss. We're going to scrap to make money. Once we scrap, we're going to make money. But it's the way Blair talks about it is it's how we actively manage our inventory rather than we're going to scrap X percent of some measure.
Speaker #2: inventory rather than the way to manipulate Look, it's the way we manage our to make money. Once we scrap, we're going to make money.
Speaker #2: But it's the way Blair talks about it is it's how we actively manage our inventory rather than we're going to scrap X percent of some measure.
Rajiv Sharma: Got it. So whether gold is down a lot or up a lot, that shouldn't really impact scrapping. It's what's going on internally, right? Okay. And then just lastly, is it reasonable to think that something like Cash Converters would be kind of next? Do you have a planned amount of M&A that you want to do every year?
Speaker #5: Got it. So whether gold is down a lot or up a lot, that shouldn't really impact scrapping. It's what's going on internally, right? Okay.
Speaker #5: And then just lastly, is it reasonable to think that some something like cash converters would be kind of next? Do you have a planned amount of M&A that you want to do?
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): No. We don't think about it that way. We don't think about it sort of in a dollars plan per year or number of stores per year. We look at every opportunity on its own merits. And as I said, we think there's a lot to do in our existing markets. On Cash Converters specifically, Sam and his team are doing just a fantastic job. They just did a rights issue that we participated in. I think we put about $7 or 8 million into it to maintain our ownership percentage. But they've done probably, I think, their largest acquisition ever, if you look into their financials. But their business is, sorry, their M&A strategy is very, very simple. They are buying back franchisees who are already on their platform, already use their brand, know them well, know the teams well.
Lachlan Given: No. We don't think about it that way. We don't think about it sort of in a dollars plan per year or number of stores per year. We look at every opportunity on its own merits. And as I said, we think there's a lot to do in our existing markets. On Cash Converters specifically, Sam and his team are doing just a fantastic job. They just did a rights issue that we participated in. I think we put about $7 or 8 million into it to maintain our ownership percentage. But they've done probably, I think, their largest acquisition ever, if you look into their financials. But their business is, sorry, their M&A strategy is very, very simple. They are buying back franchisees who are already on their platform, already use their brand, know them well, know the teams well.
Speaker #2: About it that way. We don't think about it, sort of, in per year or number of stores per year. We look—no, we do not think—at every opportunity on its own merits.
Speaker #2: A dollars plan. And as I said, we think there's a lot to do in our existing markets. On Cash Converters specifically, Sam and his team are doing just a fantastic job.
Speaker #2: They are—they just did a rights issue that we participated in. I think we put about $7 or $8 million into it to maintain our ownership percentage.
Speaker #2: are they've done But they probably I think their largest acquisition ever, if you look into their financials, but their business is sorry, their M&A strategy is very, very simple.
Speaker #2: They are buying back franchisees who are already on their POS. Already use their brand. Know them well. Know the teams well. So it's a really simple M&A strategy across a whole bunch of countries.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): So it's a really simple M&A strategy across a whole bunch of countries. They're doing really well in the UK. That's a pawn-only business. So we're really excited about that. But Cash Converters still remains a pretty small part of our business. If you look at the balance sheet, we carry it at a pretty small amount. And if you mark to market, it's still a relatively small part of the EZCORP business. But that said, it's very strategic. We love that they're in 15 or 16 countries. But just remember, they are pawnbrokers and secondhand goods resellers, but they also have a significant unsecured lending business. So it is different. So right now, Raj, we're pretty happy with where we are. We're 43.something%. We recognize the earnings through our P&L, which I know our shareholders love, and we get a nice dividend yield as well.
Lachlan Given: So it's a really simple M&A strategy across a whole bunch of countries. They're doing really well in the UK. That's a pawn-only business. So we're really excited about that. But Cash Converters still remains a pretty small part of our business. If you look at the balance sheet, we carry it at a pretty small amount. And if you mark to market, it's still a relatively small part of the EZCORP business. But that said, it's very strategic. We love that they're in 15 or 16 countries. But just remember, they are pawnbrokers and secondhand goods resellers, but they also have a significant unsecured lending business. So it is different. So right now, Raj, we're pretty happy with where we are. We're 43.something%. We recognize the earnings through our P&L, which I know our shareholders love, and we get a nice dividend yield as well.
Speaker #2: They're doing really well in the UK. That's a pawn-only business. So we're really excited about that. But cash converters still remains a pretty small part of our business.
Speaker #2: On the balance sheet, we carry it at a pretty small amount. And if you mark it to market, it's still a relatively small part of EZCORP.
Speaker #2: Said, it's very strategic. We love countries. Remember, they are pawnbrokers, but just pawn and second-hand goods resellers, but they also have a significant unsecured lending business.
Speaker #2: So it is different. So right now, Raj, we're pretty happy We're that they're in 15 or 16 43 point something percent. We recognize the earnings through our get a nice dividend yield as well.
Speaker #2: So it is different. So right now, Raj, we're pretty happy We're that they're in 15 or 16 43 point something percent. We recognize the earnings through our P&L, which I know our shareholders love.
Speaker #2: So we're happy with where it sits now. It's strategic. They're doing a great job. And we'll just continue to And we assess our ownership position going forward.
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): So we're happy with where it sits now. It's strategic. They're doing a great job. We'll just continue to assess our ownership position going forward.
Lachlan Given: So we're happy with where it sits now. It's strategic. They're doing a great job. We'll just continue to assess our ownership position going forward.
Speaker #5: Great. Great. Thank you for taking my questions. I'll take it offline. Again, congratulations. Take
Lachlan Given: Great. Great. Thank you for taking my questions. I'll take it offline. Again, congratulations.
Rajiv Sharma: Great. Great. Thank you for taking my questions. I'll take it offline. Again, congratulations.
Speaker #2: Thanks, mate. shareholders. And I'm really looking forward to talking to everyone over the next couple of days: investors, prospective investors, and analysts. And even more looking forward to thank the teams for delivering such a
[Analyst] (Jefferies LLC): Thanks, mate. Talk to you a bit later.
Lachlan Given: Thanks, mate. Talk to you a bit later.
Lachlan Given: Okay.
Rajiv Sharma: Okay.
Speaker #5: care. Talk to you a bit later.
Operator: Thank you. And now I'd like to turn the call back over to Lachlan Given for any closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. And now I'd like to turn the call back over to Lachlan Given for any closing remarks.
Speaker #3: turn the call back over to Lachlan Given for
Speaker #3: any closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Thank you, operator. Thank you, everyone, for joining. I just want to echo my remarks to Thank you.
Lachlan Given: Thank you, operator. Thank you, everyone, for joining. I just want to echo my remarks to thank the teams for delivering such a phenomenal set of results for our shareholders. I'm really looking forward to talking to everyone over the next couple of days, investors, prospective investors, and analysts, and even more looking forward to delivering a really great year for our shareholders. Thanks for joining. We'll talk to you later.
Lachlan Given: Thank you, operator. Thank you, everyone, for joining. I just want to echo my remarks to thank the teams for delivering such a phenomenal set of results for our shareholders. I'm really looking forward to talking to everyone over the next couple of days, investors, prospective investors, and analysts, and even more looking forward to delivering a really great year for our shareholders. Thanks for joining. We'll talk to you later.
Speaker #2: later. Thank you.
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Speaker #3: This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now
