Q4 2025 Goldman Sachs BDC Inc Earnings Call
John Silas: Good morning. This is John Silas, a member of the investor relations team for Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc. I would like to welcome everyone to the Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc. Q4 and fiscal year-end 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Please note that all participants will be in listen-only mode until the end of the call, when we will open up the line for questions. Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind our listeners that today's remarks may include forward-looking statements. These statements represent the company's belief regarding future events that, by their nature, are uncertain and outside of the company's control. The company's actual results and financial condition may differ, possibly materially, from what is indicated in those forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described from time to time in the company's SEC filings.
John Silas: Good morning. This is John Silas, a member of the investor relations team for Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc. I would like to welcome everyone to the Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc. Q4 and Fiscal Year-end 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Please note that all participants will be in listen-only mode until the end of the call, when we will open up the line for questions. Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind our listeners that today's remarks may include forward-looking statements. These statements represent the company's belief regarding future events that, by their nature, are uncertain and outside of the company's control. The company's actual results and financial condition may differ, possibly materially, from what is indicated in those forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described from time to time in the company's SEC filings.
Speaker #1: Please note that all participants will be in listen-only mode until the end of the call when we will open up the line for questions.
Speaker #1: Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind our listeners that today's remarks may include forward-looking statements. These statements represent the company's belief regarding future events that, by their nature, are uncertain and outside of the company's control.
Speaker #1: The company's actual results and financial condition may differ, possibly materially, from what is indicated in those forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described from time to time in the company's SEC filings.
Speaker #1: This audio cast is copyrighted material of Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc., and may not be duplicated, reproduced, or rebroadcasted without our consent. Yesterday, after the market closed, the company issued an earnings press release and posted a supplemental earnings presentation both of which can be found on the homepage of our website at www.GoldmanSachsBDC.com.
John Silas: This audiocast is copyrighted material of Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc., and may not be duplicated, reproduced, or rebroadcasted without our consent. Yesterday, after the market closed, the company issued an earnings press release and posted a supplemental earnings presentation, both of which can be found on the homepage of our website at www.goldmansachsbdc.com, under the Investor Resources section, and which includes reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. These documents should be reviewed in conjunction with the company's annual report on Form 10-K, filed yesterday with the SEC. This conference call is being recorded today, Friday, 27 February 2026, for replay purposes. I'll now turn the call over to Vivek Bantwal, Co-CEO of Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc.
John Silas: This audiocast is copyrighted material of Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc., and may not be duplicated, reproduced, or rebroadcasted without our consent. Yesterday, after the market closed, the company issued an earnings press release and posted a supplemental earnings presentation, both of which can be found on the homepage of our website at www.goldmansachsbdc.com, under the Investor Resources section, and which includes reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. These documents should be reviewed in conjunction with the company's annual report on Form 10-K, filed yesterday with the SEC. This conference call is being recorded today, Friday, 27 February 2026, for replay purposes. I'll now turn the call over to Vivek Bantwal, Co-CEO of Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc.
Speaker #1: Under the Investor Resources section, which includes reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, these documents should be reviewed in conjunction with the company's annual report on Form 10-K filed yesterday with the SEC.
Speaker #1: This conference call is being recorded today, Friday, February 27, 2026, for replay purposes. I'll now turn the call over to Vivek Bantwal, Co-CEO of Goldman Sachs BDC, Inc.
Speaker #2: Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our fourth quarter and fiscal year-end 2025 earnings conference call. I am here today with David Miller, our Co-Chief Executive Officer; Tucker Greene, our President and Chief Operating Officer; and Stan Matuszewski, our Chief Financial Officer.
Vivek Bantwal: Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our Q4 and fiscal year-end 2025 Earnings Conference Call. I am here today with David Miller, our Co-chief Executive Officer, Tucker Greene, our President and Chief Operating Officer, and Stan Matuszewski, our Chief Financial Officer. I would like to start by highlighting GSBD's progress since our integration, followed by an overview of our platform's activity during 2025. I'll then spend some time sharing our perspective on current market conditions amidst the most recent headlines in the software space. I'll then turn the call over to David and Tucker, who will dive into our Q4 results, portfolio activity, and performance, before handing it off to Stan to take us through our financial results. Finally, we'll open the line for Q&A.
Vivek Bantwal: Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our Q4 and fiscal year-end 2025 Earnings Conference Call. I am here today with David Miller, our Co-chief Executive Officer, Tucker Greene, our President and Chief Operating Officer, and Stan Matuszewski, our Chief Financial Officer. I would like to start by highlighting GSBD's progress since our integration, followed by an overview of our platform's activity during 2025. I'll then spend some time sharing our perspective on current market conditions amidst the most recent headlines in the software space. I'll then turn the call over to David and Tucker, who will dive into our Q4 results, portfolio activity, and performance, before handing it off to Stan to take us through our financial results. Finally, we'll open the line for Q&A.
Speaker #2: I would like to start by highlighting GSBD's progress since our integration followed by an overview of our platform's activity during 2025. I'll then spend some time sharing our perspective on current market conditions amidst most recent headlines in the software space.
Speaker #2: I'll then turn the call over to David and Tucker who will dive into our fourth quarter results, portfolio activity, and performance before handing it off to Stan to take us through our financial results and finally we'll open the line for Q&A.
Speaker #2: Since GSBD's integration into the broader direct lending platform in 2022, we've enhanced our sourcing, underwriting, and portfolio management oversight. This quarter, the proportion of our portfolio benefiting from the 2022 reorganization has grown to 57%, while 43% still reflects deals made prior to the integration, which we call the legacy portfolio.
Vivek Bantwal: Since GSBD's integration into the broader direct lending platform in 2022, we've enhanced our sourcing, underwriting, and portfolio management oversight. This quarter, the proportion of our portfolio benefiting from the 2022 reorganization has grown to 57%, while 43% still reflects deals made prior to the integration, which we call the legacy portfolio. From this integration, GSBD has directly benefited through a deeper origination funnel and the ability to invest in and frequently lead larger senior secured debt transactions, supported by the platform's disciplined approach. We have approximately 250 investment professionals on our broader private credit platform. The scale of our investing team, the scale of our platform, and the incumbency, relationships, and investment prowess our team has built up over nearly 30 years, stacks up well against industry peers.
Vivek Bantwal: Since GSBD's integration into the broader direct lending platform in 2022, we've enhanced our sourcing, underwriting, and portfolio management oversight. This quarter, the proportion of our portfolio benefiting from the 2022 reorganization has grown to 57%, while 43% still reflects deals made prior to the integration, which we call the legacy portfolio. From this integration, GSBD has directly benefited through a deeper origination funnel and the ability to invest in and frequently lead larger senior secured debt transactions, supported by the platform's disciplined approach. We have approximately 250 investment professionals on our broader private credit platform. The scale of our investing team, the scale of our platform, and the incumbency, relationships, and investment prowess our team has built up over nearly 30 years, stacks up well against industry peers.
Speaker #2: From this integration, GSBD has directly benefited through a deeper origination funnel and the ability to invest in and frequently lead larger senior secured debt transactions supported by the platform's disciplined approach.
Speaker #2: We have approximately 250 investment professionals on our broader private credit platform. The scale of our investing team, the scale of our platform, and the incumbency relationships and investment prowess our team has built up over nearly 30 years stacks up well against industry peers.
Speaker #2: What makes it more powerful and unique is having a private credit business attached to the number one global investment bank. In addition to the deal origination, through our dedicated private credit team, we are able to draw on the relationships of more than 3,000 investment bankers helping us identify potentially attractive opportunities from our number one M&A franchise which we can select from as a fiduciary to investors subject to regulatory requirements.
Vivek Bantwal: What makes it more powerful and unique is having a private credit business attached to the number one global investment bank. In addition to the deal origination through our dedicated private credit team, we are able to draw on the relationships of more than 3,000 investment bankers, helping us identify potentially attractive opportunities from our number one M&A franchise, which we can select from as a fiduciary to investors, subject to regulatory requirements. Before I dive into our view on the market, I'd like to highlight some broader stats that illustrate the progress GSBD has made as we continue to transition to the direct lending platform. The median EBITDA of the portfolio has increased 84% from year-end 2021 to $71.8 million at year-end 2025. Our exposure to first lien investments increased to 97% of the portfolio, from 89% during that same period.
Vivek Bantwal: What makes it more powerful and unique is having a private credit business attached to the number one global investment bank. In addition to the deal origination through our dedicated private credit team, we are able to draw on the relationships of more than 3,000 investment bankers, helping us identify potentially attractive opportunities from our number one M&A franchise, which we can select from as a fiduciary to investors, subject to regulatory requirements. Before I dive into our view on the market, I'd like to highlight some broader stats that illustrate the progress GSBD has made as we continue to transition to the direct lending platform. The median EBITDA of the portfolio has increased 84% from year-end 2021 to $71.8 million at year-end 2025. Our exposure to first lien investments increased to 97% of the portfolio, from 89% during that same period.
Speaker #2: Before I dive into our view on the market, I'd like to highlight some broader stats that illustrate the progress GSBD has made as we continue to transition to the direct lending platform.
Speaker #2: The median EBITDA of the portfolio has increased 84% from year-end 2021 to 71.8 million at year-end 2025. Our exposure to first-lean investments increased to 97% of the portfolio from 89% during that same period.
Speaker #2: Throughout 2025, GSBD demonstrated continued progress in addressing credit quality concerns and active management of the portfolio. Pick as a percentage of total investment income was 9% in Q4 2025, which is down from 15.3% in Q4 2024.
Vivek Bantwal: Throughout 2025, GSBD demonstrated continued progress in addressing credit quality concerns and active management of the portfolio. PIK, as a percentage of total investment income, was 9% in Q4 2025, which is down from 15.3% in Q4 2024. Of that 9% during the Q4, 5.5% of total investment income during the quarter was from PIK that was introduced as a loan modification or amendment after the initial agreement, the vast majority of which relates to the legacy portfolio. Our investments on non-accrual decreased slightly to 1.9% of fair value from 2% during the year. This is well below our highest non-accrual rate since integration of 3.4% of fair value.
Vivek Bantwal: Throughout 2025, GSBD demonstrated continued progress in addressing credit quality concerns and active management of the portfolio. PIK, as a percentage of total investment income, was 9% in Q4 2025, which is down from 15.3% in Q4 2024. Of that 9% during the Q4, 5.5% of total investment income during the quarter was from PIK that was introduced as a loan modification or amendment after the initial agreement, the vast majority of which relates to the legacy portfolio. Our investments on non-accrual decreased slightly to 1.9% of fair value from 2% during the year. This is well below our highest non-accrual rate since integration of 3.4% of fair value.
Speaker #2: Of that 9% during the fourth quarter, 5.5% of total investment income during the quarter was from PIK that was introduced as a loan modification or amendment after the initial agreement.
Speaker #2: The vast majority of which relates to the legacy portfolio. Our investments on non-accrual decreased slightly to 1.9% of fair value from 2% during the year.
Speaker #2: This is well below our highest non-accrual rate since integration of 3.4% of fair value. Another topical consideration we've been keen to address is our exposure to annualized recurring revenue or ARR loans within our broader BDC complex which includes GSBD.
Vivek Bantwal: Another topical consideration we've been keen to address is our exposure to annualized recurring revenue, or ARR loans, within our broader BDC complex, which includes GSBD. From its peak of 36.5% during Q3 2022, we have significantly reduced the ARR exposure within the BDC complex to approximately 5% at year-end 2025. Within GSBD specifically, ARR loans came down from nearly 39% of the portfolio on a fair value basis to 11% during that same time period. This trend is attributed to our strategic focus on EBITDA-based investments since integration and our proactive approach in mitigating ARR loans from the legacy portfolio as we seek strategic exits or EBITDA conversions for the existing loans in the space. Overall, our direct lending platform had another strong year in 2025, which directly benefited GSBD.
Vivek Bantwal: Another topical consideration we've been keen to address is our exposure to annualized recurring revenue, or ARR loans, within our broader BDC complex, which includes GSBD. From its peak of 36.5% during Q3 2022, we have significantly reduced the ARR exposure within the BDC complex to approximately 5% at year-end 2025. Within GSBD specifically, ARR loans came down from nearly 39% of the portfolio on a fair value basis to 11% during that same time period. This trend is attributed to our strategic focus on EBITDA-based investments since integration and our proactive approach in mitigating ARR loans from the legacy portfolio as we seek strategic exits or EBITDA conversions for the existing loans in the space. Overall, our direct lending platform had another strong year in 2025, which directly benefited GSBD.
Speaker #2: From its peak of $36.5% during Q3 2022, we have significantly reduced the ARR exposure within the BDC complex to approximately 5% at year-end 2025.
Speaker #2: Within GSBD specifically, ARR loans came down from nearly 39% of the portfolio on a fair value basis to 11%. During that same time period, this trend is attributed to our strategic focus on EBITDA-based investments since integration and our proactive approach in mitigating ARR loans from the legacy portfolio as we seek strategic exits or EBITDA conversions for the existing loans in the space.
Speaker #2: Overall, our direct lending platform had another strong year in 2025, which directly benefited GSBD. For the year in the Americas specifically, we committed a total of approximately $14.6 billion, which was larger than the $13 billion committed during 2024 and more than double the activity in 2023, all the while remaining selective and disciplined in our underwriting approach.
Vivek Bantwal: For the year in the Americas specifically, we committed a total of approximately $14.6 billion, which was larger than the $13 billion committed during 2024, and more than double the activity in 2023, all the while remaining selective and disciplined in our underwriting approach. From a macro perspective, despite a volatile first half of 2025, total M&A volume globally throughout the year was up 44% from 2024. US private equity deals reached nearly $1.2 trillion, marking the second time in history that deal volume has surpassed $1 trillion. Despite this being driven largely by mega deals exceeding $1 billion, we expect this M&A momentum in a potentially falling rate environment to continue and spur a resumption of private equity activity.
Vivek Bantwal: For the year in the Americas specifically, we committed a total of approximately $14.6 billion, which was larger than the $13 billion committed during 2024, and more than double the activity in 2023, all the while remaining selective and disciplined in our underwriting approach. From a macro perspective, despite a volatile first half of 2025, total M&A volume globally throughout the year was up 44% from 2024. US private equity deals reached nearly $1.2 trillion, marking the second time in history that deal volume has surpassed $1 trillion. Despite this being driven largely by mega deals exceeding $1 billion, we expect this M&A momentum in a potentially falling rate environment to continue and spur a resumption of private equity activity.
Speaker #2: From a macro perspective, despite a volatile first half of 2025, total M&A volume globally throughout the year was up 44% from 2024. US private equity deals reached nearly $1.2 trillion marking the second time in $1 trillion.
Speaker #2: Despite this being driven largely by mega deals exceeding $1 billion, we expect this M&A momentum in a potentially falling rate environment to continue and spur a resumption of private equity activity.
Speaker #2: A more favorable M&A environment should stimulate greater demand for credit financing. And despite the supply of credit remaining robust, we do anticipate spreads to moderately widen during the market dynamics we've seen over the past month.
Vivek Bantwal: A more favorable M&A environment should stimulate greater demand for credit financing, and despite the supply of credit remaining robust, we do anticipate spreads to moderately widen during the market dynamics we've seen over the past month. We believe that in today's market environment, differentiation among managers will increasingly be driven by sourcing quality, underwriting discipline, collateral oversight, and creditor protections. Let's get to the topic of software. We have a very experienced software investing team. Our view, informed by extensive collaboration across Goldman Sachs, including our 13,000 software engineers, our technology investment banking team, and our growth equity investors, who were early to companies like Anthropic, is that AI's impact will be highly company-specific and nuanced.
Vivek Bantwal: A more favorable M&A environment should stimulate greater demand for credit financing, and despite the supply of credit remaining robust, we do anticipate spreads to moderately widen during the market dynamics we've seen over the past month. We believe that in today's market environment, differentiation among managers will increasingly be driven by sourcing quality, underwriting discipline, collateral oversight, and creditor protections. Let's get to the topic of software. We have a very experienced software investing team. Our view, informed by extensive collaboration across Goldman Sachs, including our 13,000 software engineers, our technology investment banking team, and our growth equity investors, who were early to companies like Anthropic, is that AI's impact will be highly company-specific and nuanced.
Speaker #2: We believe that in today's market environment, differentiation among managers will increasingly be driven by sourcing quality, underwriting discipline, collateral oversight, and creditor protections. Let's get to the topic of software.
Speaker #2: We have a very experienced software investing team. Our view, informed by extensive collaboration across Goldman Sachs, including our 13,000 software engineers, our technology investment banking team, and our growth equity investors, who were early to companies like Anthropic, is that AI's impact will be highly company-specific and nuanced.
Speaker #2: We will come back to the topic of software and go through some more detail on our framework and a case study, but our broader private credit platform has operated with an incredibly high bar focusing on what we believe are high-quality situations in our very broad funnel.
Vivek Bantwal: We will come back to the topic of software and go through some more detail on our framework and a case study, but our broader private credit platform has operated with an incredibly high bar, focusing on what we believe are high-quality situations in our very broad funnel. As it relates to the recent headlines in software and the volatility we've seen in equity markets, we understand the concerns regarding AI's potential impact on certain software business models. However, as credit investors positioned at the top of the capital structure, our lens is fundamentally different from, say, equity investors. We don't participate in growth or equity valuation upside. We're focused on the durability of assets and their cash flows. This credit-focused perspective provides some insulation from valuation volatility.
Vivek Bantwal: We will come back to the topic of software and go through some more detail on our framework and a case study, but our broader private credit platform has operated with an incredibly high bar, focusing on what we believe are high-quality situations in our very broad funnel. As it relates to the recent headlines in software and the volatility we've seen in equity markets, we understand the concerns regarding AI's potential impact on certain software business models. However, as credit investors positioned at the top of the capital structure, our lens is fundamentally different from, say, equity investors. We don't participate in growth or equity valuation upside. We're focused on the durability of assets and their cash flows. This credit-focused perspective provides some insulation from valuation volatility.
Speaker #2: As it relates to the recent headlines in software, and the volatility we've seen in equity markets, we understand the concerns regarding AI's potential impact on certain software business models.
Speaker #2: However, as credit investors positioned at the top of the capital structure, our lens is fundamentally different from, say, equity investors. We don't participate in growth or equity valuation upside; we're focused on the durability of assets and their cash flows.
Speaker #2: This credit-focused perspective provides some insulation from valuation volatility. That said, we recognize that sufficiently severe disruption could impact creditworthiness, which is why we maintain ongoing vigilance and are prepared to adapt if our thesis on any portfolio company changes materially.
Vivek Bantwal: That said, we recognize that sufficiently severe disruption could impact creditworthiness, which is why we maintain ongoing vigilance and are prepared to adapt if our thesis on any portfolio company changes materially. We are focused on lending to scaled, incumbent businesses that are deeply entrenched in mission-critical workflows and complex use cases, evidenced by strong retention and efficient growth. These structural features, among other things, are key characteristics that we seek in software companies that demonstrate real incumbency advantages. Our direct lending platform has a long history of investing in the software sector, with investments in the sector dating back to 2008, when we launched our first senior direct lending fund. We have been proactively assessing the impacts of AI on the software space for years.
Vivek Bantwal: That said, we recognize that sufficiently severe disruption could impact creditworthiness, which is why we maintain ongoing vigilance and are prepared to adapt if our thesis on any portfolio company changes materially. We are focused on lending to scaled, incumbent businesses that are deeply entrenched in mission-critical workflows and complex use cases, evidenced by strong retention and efficient growth. These structural features, among other things, are key characteristics that we seek in software companies that demonstrate real incumbency advantages. Our direct lending platform has a long history of investing in the software sector, with investments in the sector dating back to 2008, when we launched our first senior direct lending fund. We have been proactively assessing the impacts of AI on the software space for years.
Speaker #2: We are focused on lending to scaled incumbent businesses that are deeply entrenched in mission-critical workflows and complex use cases, evidenced by strong retention and efficient growth.
Speaker #2: These structural features, among other things, are key characteristics that we seek in software companies that demonstrate real incumbency advantages. Our direct lending platform has a long history of investing in the software sector, with investments in the sector dating back to 2008, when we launched our first senior direct lending fund.
Speaker #2: We have been proactively assessing the impacts of AI on the software space for years. We passed on our first deal due to AI concerns in October of 2023, and rolled out an internal framework to evaluate AI disruption risk in early 2025, which is incorporated into all new investments in addition to our ongoing monitoring of existing portfolio exposure.
Vivek Bantwal: We passed on our first deal due to AI concerns in October 2023 and rolled out an internal framework to evaluate AI disruption risk in early 2025, which is incorporated into all new investments, in addition to our ongoing monitoring of existing portfolio exposure.
Vivek Bantwal: We passed on our first deal due to AI concerns in October 2023 and rolled out an internal framework to evaluate AI disruption risk in early 2025, which is incorporated into all new investments, in addition to our ongoing monitoring of existing portfolio exposure.
Speaker #2: The characteristics of our framework include but are not limited to: acting as mission-critical systems of record with proprietary data and deep domain expertise; solving for complex use cases and deterministic outcomes with no tolerance for errors; leveraging the accumulation of context, deep understanding of customers' unique requirements to drive critical business processes; providing broad platforms versus single product tools; operating on modern underlying architecture with limited technical debt; actively innovating and embedding AI into their own products; operating in regulated and risk-averse industries with long-term customer relationships and trust; as well as having proven track records of managing security, compliance, regulatory, and governance complexities.
Vivek Bantwal: The characteristics of our framework include, but are not limited to: acting as mission-critical systems of record with proprietary data and deep domain expertise, solving for complex use cases and deterministic outcomes with no tolerance for errors, leveraging the accumulation of context, deep understanding of customers' unique requirements to drive critical business processes, providing broad platforms versus single product tools, operating on modern underlying architecture with limited technical debt, actively innovating and embedding AI into their own products, operating in regulated and risk-averse industries with long-term customer relationships and trust, as well as having proven track records of managing security, compliance, regulatory, and governance complexities. We look at each opportunity through this lens in the underwriting process.
Vivek Bantwal: The characteristics of our framework include, but are not limited to: acting as mission-critical systems of record with proprietary data and deep domain expertise, solving for complex use cases and deterministic outcomes with no tolerance for errors, leveraging the accumulation of context, deep understanding of customers' unique requirements to drive critical business processes, providing broad platforms versus single product tools, operating on modern underlying architecture with limited technical debt, actively innovating and embedding AI into their own products, operating in regulated and risk-averse industries with long-term customer relationships and trust, as well as having proven track records of managing security, compliance, regulatory, and governance complexities. We look at each opportunity through this lens in the underwriting process.
Speaker #2: We look at each opportunity through this lens in the underwriting process. Across our broader direct lending Americas platform, we have closed or committed to 26 new software deals since January 2025 that exhibit strong KPIs, including an average rule of 40 of 55.8%, comprised of 16.6% recurring revenue growth and 39.1% cash EBITDA margins.
Vivek Bantwal: Across our broader Direct Lending Americas platform, we have closed or committed to 26 new software deals since January 2025 that exhibit strong KPIs, including an average Rule of 40 of 55.8%, comprised of 16.6% recurring revenue growth and 39.1% cash EBITDA margins. During Q3 2025, revenue growth and EBITDA margins of our Direct Lending Americas software portfolio improved to 9.2% and 34.9%, respectively, up from 7.8% and 30.3% a year earlier, respectively. Let me provide a concrete example of how we leverage the Goldman Sachs ecosystem for both proprietary origination and enhanced diligence by discussing our largest committed software deal during the quarter, Clearwater Analytics.
Vivek Bantwal: Across our broader Direct Lending Americas platform, we have closed or committed to 26 new software deals since January 2025 that exhibit strong KPIs, including an average Rule of 40 of 55.8%, comprised of 16.6% recurring revenue growth and 39.1% cash EBITDA margins. During Q3 2025, revenue growth and EBITDA margins of our Direct Lending Americas software portfolio improved to 9.2% and 34.9%, respectively, up from 7.8% and 30.3% a year earlier, respectively. Let me provide a concrete example of how we leverage the Goldman Sachs ecosystem for both proprietary origination and enhanced diligence by discussing our largest committed software deal during the quarter, Clearwater Analytics.
Speaker #2: During the third quarter 2025, revenue growth and EBITDA margins of our direct lending Americas software portfolio improved to 9.2% and 34.9% respectively, up from 7.8% and 30.3% a year earlier, respectively.
Speaker #2: Let me provide a concrete example of how we leverage the Goldman Sachs ecosystem for both proprietary origination and enhanced diligence by discussing our largest committed software deal during the quarter, Clearwater Analytics.
Speaker #2: Clearwater Analytics founded in 2004 and based in Boise, Idaho, provides cloud-native investment accounting, analytics, and reporting solutions for institutional investors including insurance companies. Goldman Sachs has been around this company for a very long time.
Vivek Bantwal: Clearwater Analytics, founded in 2004 and based in Boise, Idaho, provides cloud-native investment accounting, analytics, and reporting solutions for institutional investors, including insurance companies. Goldman Sachs has been around this company for a very long time. We were approached by the sponsors looking to take Clearwater private as the only organization that we believe could have provided a 100% solution on a transaction of this size in both public and private markets, in addition to offering M&A advice. We showed the sponsors indicative financing terms across both markets. Ultimately, the sponsors selected the private credit alternative, where we were able to structure and negotiate a mutually beneficial bilateral credit facility that included our desired long-term size allocation. The bilateral process both simplified and streamlined the sponsor's financing process, while protecting the confidentiality of the M&A process, which was critically important for the M&A execution.
Vivek Bantwal: Clearwater Analytics, founded in 2004 and based in Boise, Idaho, provides cloud-native investment accounting, analytics, and reporting solutions for institutional investors, including insurance companies. Goldman Sachs has been around this company for a very long time. We were approached by the sponsors looking to take Clearwater private as the only organization that we believe could have provided a 100% solution on a transaction of this size in both public and private markets, in addition to offering M&A advice. We showed the sponsors indicative financing terms across both markets. Ultimately, the sponsors selected the private credit alternative, where we were able to structure and negotiate a mutually beneficial bilateral credit facility that included our desired long-term size allocation. The bilateral process both simplified and streamlined the sponsor's financing process, while protecting the confidentiality of the M&A process, which was critically important for the M&A execution.
Speaker #2: We were approached by the sponsors looking to take Clearwater Private as the only organization that we believe could have provided a 100% solution on transaction of this size in both public and private markets in addition to offering M&A advice.
Speaker #2: We showed the sponsors indicative financing terms across both markets and ultimately the sponsors selected the private credit alternative where we were able to structure and negotiate a mutually beneficial bilateral credit facility that included our desired long-term size allocation.
Speaker #2: The bilateral process both simplified and streamlined the sponsors' financing process, while protecting the confidentiality of the M&A process, which was critically important for the M&A execution.
Speaker #2: This is an example of leveraging the broader GS ecosystem to deliver differentiated, origination, and outcomes for our investors. The other part of the ecosystem relates to diligence in our AI framework.
Vivek Bantwal: This is an example of leveraging the broader GS ecosystem to deliver differentiated origination and outcomes for our investors. The other part of the ecosystem relates to diligence and our AI framework. The deal team benefited from a first-hand perspective on Clearwater's capabilities and value proposition, with Goldman Sachs being a customer of Clearwater's across our asset wealth management and global banking and markets divisions. The deal team was able to conduct multiple calls with our engineering colleagues to validate our credit thesis and build a high degree of conviction related to the mission criticality and stickiness of the solution, and competitive positioning and durability in a rapidly evolving technology landscape.
Vivek Bantwal: This is an example of leveraging the broader GS ecosystem to deliver differentiated origination and outcomes for our investors. The other part of the ecosystem relates to diligence and our AI framework. The deal team benefited from a first-hand perspective on Clearwater's capabilities and value proposition, with Goldman Sachs being a customer of Clearwater's across our asset wealth management and global banking and markets divisions. The deal team was able to conduct multiple calls with our engineering colleagues to validate our credit thesis and build a high degree of conviction related to the mission criticality and stickiness of the solution, and competitive positioning and durability in a rapidly evolving technology landscape.
Speaker #2: The deal team benefited from a firsthand perspective on Clearwater's 's capabilities and value proposition with Goldman Sachs being a customer of Clearwater's across our asset wealth management and global banking and markets divisions.
Speaker #2: The deal team was able to conduct multiple calls with our engineering colleagues to validate our credit thesis and build a high degree of conviction related to the mission-criticality and stickiness of the solution and competitive positioning and durability in a rapidly evolving technology landscape.
Speaker #2: And so, in December 2025, the GS private credit complex committed to 100% of a $3.5 billion investment in a new Unitron financing to support the take-private of Clearwater by Warburg Pincus and Primera and a few weeks later the sponsors brought nine other lenders into the deal.
Vivek Bantwal: In December 2025, the Goldman Sachs Private Credit Complex committed to 100% of a $3.5 billion investment in a new unitranche financing to support the take private of Clearwater by Warburg Pincus and Permira, and a few weeks later, the sponsors brought nine other lenders into the deal. The Goldman Sachs Private Credit Complex retained our desired $1.235 billion in the facility, and the GSBDC will own $75 million of that at closing. The Clearwater investment highlights key characteristics that underscore our approach to investing in software amidst an evolving and nuanced investing environment. Clearwater's advantages are not about the cost to write code. They're about owning the customer relationship, leveraging proprietary data with network effects, navigating regulatory complexity, and providing the insurance policy that mission-critical systems will work reliably.
Vivek Bantwal: In December 2025, the Goldman Sachs Private Credit Complex committed to 100% of a $3.5 billion investment in a new unitranche financing to support the take private of Clearwater by Warburg Pincus and Permira, and a few weeks later, the sponsors brought nine other lenders into the deal. The Goldman Sachs Private Credit Complex retained our desired $1.235 billion in the facility, and the GSBDC will own $75 million of that at closing. The Clearwater investment highlights key characteristics that underscore our approach to investing in software amidst an evolving and nuanced investing environment. Clearwater's advantages are not about the cost to write code. They're about owning the customer relationship, leveraging proprietary data with network effects, navigating regulatory complexity, and providing the insurance policy that mission-critical systems will work reliably.
Speaker #2: The Goldman Sachs private credit complex retained our desired 1.235 billion of the facility and the GS BDC will own 75 million of that at closing.
Speaker #2: The Clearwater investment highlights key characteristics that underscore our approach to investing in software amidst an evolving and nuanced investing environment. Clearwater's advantages are not about the cost-to-write code.
Speaker #2: They're about owning the customer relationship, leveraging proprietary data with network effects, navigating regulatory complexity, and providing the insurance policy that mission-critical systems will work reliably.
Speaker #2: These structural and strategic advantages enable Clearwater to continue providing value to its customers and benefit from AI advancements rather than be disrupted by them.
Vivek Bantwal: These structural and strategic advantages enable Clearwater to continue providing value to its customers and benefit from AI advancements rather than be disrupted by them. Looking forward, our framework will continue to evolve as the landscape develops. While AI remains a dynamic and rapidly evolving area, we remain confident in our ability to thoughtfully assess and help mitigate AI-related risks across both our current portfolio and new investment opportunities. That said, and this is important, this is not a time for complacency, but rather a time to remain humble, proactive, disciplined, and forward-looking. We are focused on the implications of AI, not only within software, but across the broader business landscape, and we continue to leverage the differentiated capabilities of the Goldman Sachs ecosystem in support of our portfolio. With that, let me turn it over to my co-CEO, David.
Vivek Bantwal: These structural and strategic advantages enable Clearwater to continue providing value to its customers and benefit from AI advancements rather than be disrupted by them. Looking forward, our framework will continue to evolve as the landscape develops. While AI remains a dynamic and rapidly evolving area, we remain confident in our ability to thoughtfully assess and help mitigate AI-related risks across both our current portfolio and new investment opportunities. That said, and this is important, this is not a time for complacency, but rather a time to remain humble, proactive, disciplined, and forward-looking. We are focused on the implications of AI, not only within software, but across the broader business landscape, and we continue to leverage the differentiated capabilities of the Goldman Sachs ecosystem in support of our portfolio. With that, let me turn it over to my co-CEO, David.
Speaker #2: Looking forward, our framework will continue to evolve as the landscape develops. While AI remains a dynamic and rapidly evolving area, we remain confident in our ability to thoughtfully assess and help mitigate AI-related risks across both our current portfolio and new investment opportunities.
Speaker #2: That said, and this is important, this is not a time for complacency, but rather a time to remain humble, proactive, disciplined, and forward-looking. We are focused on the implications of AI not only within software but across the broader business landscape, and we continue to leverage the differentiated capabilities of the Goldman Sachs ecosystem in support of our portfolio.
Speaker #2: With that, let me turn it over to my co-CEO, David. Thanks, Vivek. I'd now like to turn to our fourth quarter results. Our net investment income per share for the quarter was $37 and net asset value per share was $12.64 as of quarter end.
David Miller: Thanks, Vivek. I'd now like to turn to our Q4 results. Our net investment income per share for the quarter was $0.37, and net asset value per share was $12.64 as of quarter end. This decrease of approximately 1% relative to Q3 NAV was largely due to net realized and unrealized losses in the quarter. The board declared a Q4 2025 supplemental dividend of $0.03 per share, payable on or about 20 March 2026, to shareholders of record as of 9 March 2026. Adjusted for the impact of the supplemental dividend related to the Q4 earnings, the company's Q4 2025 adjusted NAV per share is $12.61.
David Miller: Thanks, Vivek. I'd now like to turn to our Q4 results. Our net investment income per share for the quarter was $0.37, and net asset value per share was $12.64 as of quarter end. This decrease of approximately 1% relative to Q3 NAV was largely due to net realized and unrealized losses in the quarter. The board declared a Q4 2025 supplemental dividend of $0.03 per share, payable on or about 20 March 2026, to shareholders of record as of 9 March 2026. Adjusted for the impact of the supplemental dividend related to the Q4 earnings, the company's Q4 2025 adjusted NAV per share is $12.61.
Speaker #2: This decrease of approximately 1% relative to third quarter NAV was largely due to net realized and unrealized losses in the quarter. The board declared a fourth quarter 2025 supplemental dividend of $0.03 per share payable on or about March 20th, , 2026 to shareholders of record as of March 9th, 2026.
Speaker #2: Adjusted for the impact of the supplemental dividend related to the fourth quarter earnings, the company's fourth quarter 2025 adjusted NAV per share is $12.61.
Speaker #2: The board also declared a first quarter 2026 base dividend per share of $0.32 to shareholders of record as of March 31st, 2026. We ended the quarter with net debt-to-equity ratio of 1.27 times as of December 31st, 2025, as compared to 1.17 times as of September 30th, 2025.
David Miller: The board also declared a Q1 2026 base dividend per share of $0.32 to shareholders of record as of 31 March 2026. We ended the quarter with net debt-to-equity ratio of 1.27x as of 31 December 2025, as compared to 1.17x as of 30 September 2025. GSBD committed approximately $1.2 billion in new commitments throughout the year in 35 new deals. Of the commitments made to new portfolio companies, GS played a lead role in approximately 75% of the deals. During the quarter, we made new commitments of approximately $394.9 million across 27 portfolio companies, comprised of seven new and 20 existing portfolio companies.
David Miller: The board also declared a Q1 2026 base dividend per share of $0.32 to shareholders of record as of 31 March 2026. We ended the quarter with net debt-to-equity ratio of 1.27x as of 31 December 2025, as compared to 1.17x as of 30 September 2025. GSBD committed approximately $1.2 billion in new commitments throughout the year in 35 new deals. Of the commitments made to new portfolio companies, GS played a lead role in approximately 75% of the deals. During the quarter, we made new commitments of approximately $394.9 million across 27 portfolio companies, comprised of seven new and 20 existing portfolio companies.
Speaker #2: GS BD committed approximately 1.2 billion in new commitments throughout the year, in 35 new deals. Of the commitments made to new portfolio companies, GS played a lead role in approximately 75% of the deals.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, we made new commitments of approximately $394.9 million across 27 portfolio companies comprised of seven new and 20 existing portfolio companies. 100% of our origination during the quarter were in first lien loans, which continues to reflect our bias in primarily maintaining exposure to investments that are at the top of the capital structure.
David Miller: 100% of our origination during the quarter were in first lien loans, which continues to reflect our bias in primarily maintaining exposure to investments that are at the top of the capital structure. During the quarter, in addition to Clearwater, we also acted as sole lead arranger in the acquisition of QU, which is an e-commerce native apparel and accessory brand focused on outdoor enthusiasts. This transaction exemplified our ability to lean into a high-quality company and commit 100% of the financing, which is an illustration of the platform's deep sponsor relationships. Turning to portfolio composition. As of 31 December 2025, total investments in our portfolio were $3.26 billion at fair value, comprised of 38.4% in senior secured loans, 1.3% in a combination of preferred and common stock, and a negligible amount of warrants.
David Miller: 100% of our origination during the quarter were in first lien loans, which continues to reflect our bias in primarily maintaining exposure to investments that are at the top of the capital structure. During the quarter, in addition to Clearwater, we also acted as sole lead arranger in the acquisition of QU, which is an e-commerce native apparel and accessory brand focused on outdoor enthusiasts. This transaction exemplified our ability to lean into a high-quality company and commit 100% of the financing, which is an illustration of the platform's deep sponsor relationships. Turning to portfolio composition. As of 31 December 2025, total investments in our portfolio were $3.26 billion at fair value, comprised of 38.4% in senior secured loans, 1.3% in a combination of preferred and common stock, and a negligible amount of warrants.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, in addition to Clearwater, we also acted as sole lead arranger in the acquisition of QU, which is an e-commerce native apparel and accessory brand focused on outdoor enthusiasts.
Speaker #2: This transaction exemplified our ability to lean into high-quality company and commit 100% of the financing. Which is an illustration of the platform's deep sponsor relationships.
Speaker #2: Turning to portfolio composition, as of December 31st, 2025, total investments in our portfolio were $3.26 billion at fair value, comprised of $38.4% in senior secured loans, $1.3% in a combination of preferred and common stock, and a negligible amount of warrants.
Speaker #2: With that, let me turn it over to Tucker to discuss repayments, fundamentals, and credit quality.
David Miller: With that, let me turn it over to Tucker to discuss repayments, fundamentals, and credit quality.
David Miller: With that, let me turn it over to Tucker to discuss repayments, fundamentals, and credit quality.
Speaker #3: Thanks, David. I'll first discuss the portfolio in more detail. At the end of the fourth quarter, the company held investments in 171 portfolio companies, operating across 40 different industries.
Vivek Bantwal: Thanks, David. I'll first discuss the portfolio in more detail. At the end of Q4, the company held investments in 171 portfolio companies operating across 40 different industries.
Vivek Bantwal: Thanks, David. I'll first discuss the portfolio in more detail. At the end of Q4, the company held investments in 171 portfolio companies operating across 40 different industries.
Speaker #3: The weighted average yield of our total debt and income-producing investments at amortized cost at the end of the fourth quarter was 9.9%, as compared to 10.3% at the end of the third quarter.
Tucker Greene: The weighted average yield of our total debt and income-producing investments at amortized cost at the end of Q4 was 9.9%, as compared to 10.3% at the end of Q3. Importantly, our portfolio companies continue to have both top-line growth and EBITDA growth quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year on a weighted average basis. The weighted average net debt-to-EBITDA of the companies in our investment portfolio increased slightly to 5.9x during Q4, compared to 5.8x during Q3. At the same time, the current weighted average interest coverage of the companies in our investment portfolio at the end of Q4 increased to 2 times, compared to 1.9 times during Q3.
Tucker Greene: The weighted average yield of our total debt and income-producing investments at amortized cost at the end of Q4 was 9.9%, as compared to 10.3% at the end of Q3. Importantly, our portfolio companies continue to have both top-line growth and EBITDA growth quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year on a weighted average basis. The weighted average net debt-to-EBITDA of the companies in our investment portfolio increased slightly to 5.9x during Q4, compared to 5.8x during Q3. At the same time, the current weighted average interest coverage of the companies in our investment portfolio at the end of Q4 increased to 2 times, compared to 1.9 times during Q3.
Speaker #3: Importantly, our portfolio companies continue to have both top-line growth and EBITDA growth quarter over quarter and year over year on a weighted average basis.
Speaker #3: The weighted average net debt-to-EBITDA of the companies in our investment portfolio increased slightly to 5.9 times during the fourth quarter compared to 5.8 times during the third quarter.
Speaker #3: At the same time, the current weighted average interest coverage of the companies in our investment portfolio at the end of the fourth quarter increased to 2 times compared to 1.9 times during the third quarter.
Speaker #3: As Vivek and David mentioned, we had a strong quarter of originations, with an increase in our net funding, as we continue to enhance the portfolio.
Tucker Greene: As Vivek and David mentioned, we had a strong quarter of originations with an increase in our net funding as we continue to enhance the portfolio. Sales and repayment activity totaled $251.6 million during the quarter, primarily driven by full repayment and exit of 13 portfolio companies. One notable exit this quarter was with a portfolio company that our platform has been invested in for approximately 8 years. This company is a software provider for the staffing, recruitment, and contingent labor industry. Now, despite performance remaining steady and showing no indication of deterioration in the near or long term, we decided to sell the loan at $0.99 to other lenders, given anticipated headwinds and AI disruption risk within the industry. This is a strong example of our ability to be proactive and cautious towards exiting strong companies that we believe have potential AI risk.
Tucker Greene: As Vivek and David mentioned, we had a strong quarter of originations with an increase in our net funding as we continue to enhance the portfolio. Sales and repayment activity totaled $251.6 million during the quarter, primarily driven by full repayment and exit of 13 portfolio companies. One notable exit this quarter was with a portfolio company that our platform has been invested in for approximately 8 years. This company is a software provider for the staffing, recruitment, and contingent labor industry. Now, despite performance remaining steady and showing no indication of deterioration in the near or long term, we decided to sell the loan at $0.99 to other lenders, given anticipated headwinds and AI disruption risk within the industry. This is a strong example of our ability to be proactive and cautious towards exiting strong companies that we believe have potential AI risk.
Speaker #3: Sales and repayment activity totaled $251.6 million during the quarter, primarily driven by full repayment and exit of 13 portfolio companies. One notable exit this quarter was with a portfolio company that our platform has been invested in for approximately eight years.
Speaker #3: This company is a software provider for the staffing, recruitment, and contingent labor industry. Now, despite performance remaining steady and showing no indication of deterioration in the near or long term, we decided to sell the loan at $0.99 to other lenders given anticipated headwinds in AI disruption risk within the industry.
Speaker #3: This is a strong example of our ability to be proactive and cautious towards exiting strong companies that we believe have potential AI risk. Our total repayments during 2025 amounted to $1.1 billion, over $78% of this repayment activity was from pre-2022 vintage loans.
Tucker Greene: Our total repayments during 2025 amounted to $1.1 billion. Over 78% of this repayment activity was from pre-2022 vintage loans, demonstrating effective management of our assets. As of 31 December 2025, pre-2022 vintage investments constitute approximately 43% of GSBD's portfolio at fair market value. The firm maintains a proactive approach to monitoring, managing, and resolving any associated credit issues. Throughout this past quarter, we utilized our Rule 10b5-1 stock repurchase plan. We repurchased north of 1.5 million shares for $15 million, which is accretive to NAV by $0.04 per share. Since implementing the Rule 10b5-1 plan in June 2025, we have repurchased $52.2 million or 4.7 million shares. Finally, turning to asset quality.
Tucker Greene: Our total repayments during 2025 amounted to $1.1 billion. Over 78% of this repayment activity was from pre-2022 vintage loans, demonstrating effective management of our assets. As of 31 December 2025, pre-2022 vintage investments constitute approximately 43% of GSBD's portfolio at fair market value. The firm maintains a proactive approach to monitoring, managing, and resolving any associated credit issues. Throughout this past quarter, we utilized our Rule 10b5-1 stock repurchase plan. We repurchased north of 1.5 million shares for $15 million, which is accretive to NAV by $0.04 per share. Since implementing the Rule 10b5-1 plan in June 2025, we have repurchased $52.2 million or 4.7 million shares. Finally, turning to asset quality.
Speaker #3: Demonstrating effective management of our assets. As of December 31, 2025, pre-2022 vintage investments constitute approximately 43% of GSBD’s portfolio at fair market value.
Speaker #3: The firm maintains a proactive approach to monitoring, managing, and resolving any associated credit issues. Throughout this past quarter, we utilized our 10b5-1 stock repurchase plan. We repurchased north of 1.5 million shares for $15 million, which is accretive to NAV by $0.04 per share.
Speaker #3: Since implementing the 10B51 plan in June 2025, we have repurchased $52.2 million or $4.7 million shares. And finally, turning to asset quality, as of December 31st, 2025, we placed Pluralsight's first lien senior secured debt position last out position on non-accrual status.
Tucker Greene: As of 31 December 2025, we placed Pluralsight's first lien senior secured debt position, last out position on non-accrual status. Investments on non-accrual status increased slightly to 2.8% and 1.9% of the total investment portfolio at amortized cost and fair value from 2.5% and 1.5% as of 30 September 2025. I will now turn the call over to Stan to walk through our financial results.
Tucker Greene: As of 31 December 2025, we placed Pluralsight's first lien senior secured debt position, last out position on non-accrual status. Investments on non-accrual status increased slightly to 2.8% and 1.9% of the total investment portfolio at amortized cost and fair value from 2.5% and 1.5% as of 30 September 2025. I will now turn the call over to Stan to walk through our financial results.
Speaker #3: Investments on non-accrual status increased slightly to 2.8% and 1.9% of the total investment portfolio at amortized cost and fair value from $2.5% and 1.5% as of September 30th, 2025.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn the call over to Stan to walk through our financial results.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Tucker. We ended the fourth quarter of 2025 with total portfolio investments at fair value of $3.3 billion, outstanding debt of $1.9 billion, and net assets of $1.4 billion.
Stanley Matuszewski: Thank you, Tucker. We ended Q4 2025 with total portfolio investments at fair value of $3.3 billion, outstanding debt of $1.9 billion, and net assets of $1.4 billion. As David mentioned, our ending net debt-to-equity ratio as of the end of Q4 was 1.27 times. At Q4 end, approximately 69% of our total principal amount of debt outstanding was in unsecured debt. As of 31 December 2025, the company had approximately $1.1 billion of borrowing capacity remaining under the revolving credit facility.
Stanley Matuszewski: Thank you, Tucker. We ended Q4 2025 with total portfolio investments at fair value of $3.3 billion, outstanding debt of $1.9 billion, and net assets of $1.4 billion. As David mentioned, our ending net debt-to-equity ratio as of the end of Q4 was 1.27 times. At Q4 end, approximately 69% of our total principal amount of debt outstanding was in unsecured debt. As of 31 December 2025, the company had approximately $1.1 billion of borrowing capacity remaining under the revolving credit facility.
Speaker #2: As David mentioned, our ending net debt-to-equity ratio as of the end of the fourth quarter was 1.27 times. At quarter end, approximately 69% of our total principal amount of debt outstanding was in unsecured debt.
Speaker #2: As of December 31, 2025, the company had approximately $1.1 billion of borrowing capacity remaining under the revolving credit facility. Subsequent to quarter end, on January 15, 2026, we borrowed $505 million under the revolving credit facility and used the proceeds, together with cash on hand, to repay the 2026 notes plus accrued and unpaid interest, in full satisfaction of our obligations under the notes.
Stanley Matuszewski: Subsequent to quarter-end, on 15 January 2026, we borrowed $505 million under the revolving credit facility and used the proceeds together with cash on hand to repay the 2026 notes, plus accrued and unpaid interest in full satisfaction of our obligations under the notes. Also subsequent to quarter-end, on 28 January 2026, we issued $400 million of 3-year investment grade unsecured notes with a coupon of 5.1%. We also hedged the issuance by swapping the coupon from fixed to floating to match GSBD's floating rate investments. Over 100 investors participated in the company's day of live deal marketing, which resulted in the peak order book being 7.3 times oversubscribed on our $300 million starting size.
Stanley Matuszewski: Subsequent to quarter-end, on 15 January 2026, we borrowed $505 million under the revolving credit facility and used the proceeds together with cash on hand to repay the 2026 notes, plus accrued and unpaid interest in full satisfaction of our obligations under the notes. Also subsequent to quarter-end, on 28 January 2026, we issued $400 million of 3-year investment grade unsecured notes with a coupon of 5.1%. We also hedged the issuance by swapping the coupon from fixed to floating to match GSBD's floating rate investments. Over 100 investors participated in the company's day of live deal marketing, which resulted in the peak order book being 7.3 times oversubscribed on our $300 million starting size.
Speaker #2: Also, subsequent to quarter end, on January 28, 2026, we issued $400 million of three-year investment-grade unsecured notes with a coupon of 5.1%. We also hedged the issuance by swapping the coupon from fixed to floating to match GS BD's floating rate investments.
Speaker #2: Over 100 investors participated in the company's day-of-live deal marketing, which resulted in the peak order book being 7.3 times oversubscribed on our $300 million starting size.
Speaker #2: Before continuing to the income statement, as a reminder, in addition to GAAP financial measures, we also reference certain non-GAAP or adjusted measures. This is intended to make our results easier to compare to results prior to our October 2020 merger with Goldman Sachs middle market lending corp or MMLC.
Stanley Matuszewski: Before continuing to the income statement, as a reminder, in addition to GAAP financial measures, we also reference certain non-GAAP or adjusted measures. This is intended to make our results easier to compare to results prior to our October 2020 merger with Goldman Sachs Middle Market Lending Corp, or MMLC. These non-GAAP measures remove the purchase discount amortization impact from our financial results. For Q4, GAAP and adjusted after-tax net investment income was $42.2 million and $41.8 million, respectively, as compared to $45.3 million and $44.8 million, respectively, in the prior quarter. On a per-share basis, GAAP net investment income was $0.37, equating to an annualized net investment income yield on book value of 11.7%.
Stanley Matuszewski: Before continuing to the income statement, as a reminder, in addition to GAAP financial measures, we also reference certain non-GAAP or adjusted measures. This is intended to make our results easier to compare to results prior to our October 2020 merger with Goldman Sachs Middle Market Lending Corp, or MMLC. These non-GAAP measures remove the purchase discount amortization impact from our financial results. For Q4, GAAP and adjusted after-tax net investment income was $42.2 million and $41.8 million, respectively, as compared to $45.3 million and $44.8 million, respectively, in the prior quarter. On a per-share basis, GAAP net investment income was $0.37, equating to an annualized net investment income yield on book value of 11.7%.
Speaker #2: These non-GAAP measures remove the purchase discount amortization impact from our financial results. For the fourth quarter, GAAP and adjusted after-tax net investment income was $42.2 million, and $41.8 million respectively.
Speaker #2: As compared to $45.3 million and $44.8 million, respectively, in the prior quarter. On a per-share basis, GAAP net investment income was $0.37. Equating to an annualized net investment income yield on book value of 11.7%.
Speaker #2: Total investment income for the three months ended December 31st, 2025, and September 30th, 2025, was $86.1 million and $91.6 million respectively. Our undistributed taxable net income as of 12/31/2025 is approximately $109 million or $97 cents on a per-share basis.
Stanley Matuszewski: Total investment income for the three months ended 31 December 2025 and 30 September 2025, was $86.1 million and $91.6 million, respectively. Our undistributed taxable net income as of 31 December 2025, is approximately $109 million, or $0.97 on a per-share basis. With that, I'll turn it back to Vivek Bantwal for closing remarks.
Stanley Matuszewski: Total investment income for the three months ended 31 December 2025 and 30 September 2025, was $86.1 million and $91.6 million, respectively. Our undistributed taxable net income as of 31 December 2025, is approximately $109 million, or $0.97 on a per-share basis. With that, I'll turn it back to Vivek Bantwal for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn it back to Vivek for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Stan. And thanks, everyone, for joining our earnings call. We are excited to continue turning over the portfolio into new, attractive opportunities using the full breadth of the Goldman Sachs platform while continuing to navigate through this market environment with humility and continued heightened discipline.
Tucker Greene: Thanks, Stan, and thanks everyone for joining our earnings call. We are excited to continue turning over the portfolio into new, attractive opportunities, using the full breadth of the Goldman Sachs platform, while continuing to navigate through this market environment with humility and continued heightened discipline.
Tucker Greene: Thanks, Stan, and thanks everyone for joining our earnings call. We are excited to continue turning over the portfolio into new, attractive opportunities, using the full breadth of the Goldman Sachs platform, while continuing to navigate through this market environment with humility and continued heightened discipline.
Speaker #3: With that, let's open the line for Q&A.
Vivek Bantwal: With that, let's open the line for Q&A.
Vivek Bantwal: With that, let's open the line for Q&A.
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Operator: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to re-reach our equipment. Again, please press star one to ask a question. We will go first to Finian O'Shea with Wells Fargo.
Speaker #4: Again, please press *1 to ask a question. We will go first to Finneon O'Shea with Wells Fargo.
Speaker #5: Hey, everyone. Sorry I was on mute. Good morning. I wanted to ask about Clearwater. It's all real interesting color. Maybe from the more from the bank platform perspective than software.
Finian O'Shea: Hey, everyone. Sorry, I was on mute. Good morning. I wanted to ask about Clearwater. It's a real interesting color, maybe more from the bank's platform perspective than software. When we see, you know, sound like you were, you know, had an advantage position there through Goldman. Can you give us a sense of the, like in a +450 type situation where those are all, you know, those are the sort of big, clean names we see. Those to me, from the outside, look like they're not too much of a, of a premium to BSL, or the bank solution on a true, like, leverage-adjusted basis. How...
Finian O'Shea: Hey, everyone. Sorry, I was on mute. Good morning. I wanted to ask about Clearwater. It's a real interesting color, maybe more from the bank's platform perspective than software. When we see, you know, sound like you were, you know, had an advantage position there through Goldman. Can you give us a sense of the, like in a +450 type situation where those are all, you know, those are the sort of big, clean names we see. Those to me, from the outside, look like they're not too much of a, of a premium to BSL, or the bank solution on a true, like, leverage-adjusted basis. How...
Speaker #5: So when we see it sounded like you were had an advantage position there. Through Goldman, but can you give us a sense of the in a plus 450 type situation, where those are all those are the sort of big clean names we see?
Speaker #5: Those, to me, from the outside, look like they're not too much of a premium to BSL or the bank solution. On a true leverage-adjusted basis—so, how was that true?
Finian O'Shea: Was that true, like, market competitive, or did you lean in sort of, you know, one way or the other on say, leverage risk or like, quality price on the low end? I guess if I'm wording that right, just how distinct was your sort of angle and your underwrite?
Finian O'Shea: Was that true, like, market competitive, or did you lean in sort of, you know, one way or the other on say, leverage risk or like, quality price on the low end? I guess if I'm wording that right, just how distinct was your sort of angle and your underwrite?
Speaker #5: Market competitive or did you lean in sort of one way or the other on, say, leveraged risk or quality price on the low end?
Speaker #5: I guess, if I'm wording that right, just how distinct was your sort of angle and your underwriting?
Vivek Bantwal: Good morning, Finian. Thanks for the question. Look, I think it's a really good question, and I think this is a really good example, particularly, you know, as the M&A, you know, cycle starts to pick up, which is, you know, to your point. One of the things we do benefit from is, in addition to the origination that our team provides, you know, we do, you know, we are kind of connected to, you know, the number one M&A investment bank. We see interesting opportunities that way. These take privates are particularly interesting because generally speaking, the most important thing in a take private is to keep the deal confidential.
Speaker #3: Good morning, Stan. Thanks for the question. Look, I think it's a really good question, and I think this is a really good example, particularly as the M&A kind of cycle kind of starts to pick up, which is to your point, one of the things we do benefit from is, in addition to the origination that our team provides, we do we are kind of connected to the number one M&A investment bank.
Vivek Bantwal: Good morning, Finian. Thanks for the question. Look, I think it's a really good question, and I think this is a really good example, particularly, you know, as the M&A, you know, cycle starts to pick up, which is, you know, to your point. One of the things we do benefit from is, in addition to the origination that our team provides, you know, we do, you know, we are kind of connected to, you know, the number one M&A investment bank. We see interesting opportunities that way. These take privates are particularly interesting because generally speaking, the most important thing in a take private is to keep the deal confidential.
Speaker #3: And so we see interesting opportunities that way. These take-privates are particularly interesting because, generally speaking, the most important thing in a take-private is to keep the deal confidential.
Vivek Bantwal: Our ability to provide a 100% solution helps the sponsor by avoiding leak risk, and so then we can have a bilateral conversation. I would just say, and I don't think we, you know, get into this name by name in terms of the specifics from a disclosure perspective. But, you know, you should assume that when we provide a certainty like that in an M&A context on a bilateral basis, we're providing value to the client by giving them a 100% solution and very seamless execution while they're kind of focusing on their much bigger picture of the M&A, that we get paid incremental economics for that.
Speaker #3: And so our ability to provide 100% solution helps the sponsor by avoiding leak risk. And so then we can have a bilateral conversation. I would just say, and I don't think we get into this name-by-name in terms of the specifics, from a disclosure perspective, but you should assume that when we provide certainty like that, in an M&A context, on a bilateral basis, we're providing value to the client by giving them 100% solution and very seamless execution while they're kind of focusing on their much bigger picture of the M&A.
Vivek Bantwal: Our ability to provide a 100% solution helps the sponsor by avoiding leak risk, and so then we can have a bilateral conversation. I would just say, and I don't think we, you know, get into this name by name in terms of the specifics from a disclosure perspective. But, you know, you should assume that when we provide a certainty like that in an M&A context on a bilateral basis, we're providing value to the client by giving them a 100% solution and very seamless execution while they're kind of focusing on their much bigger picture of the M&A, that we get paid incremental economics for that.
Speaker #3: That we get paid incremental economics for that. And so these M&A situations and these take privates in particular, we think are real sources for alpha because when we can kind of bilaterally negotiate a document with sponsors, that are kind of really mutually beneficial, we can really kind of solve for what's important for each other.
Vivek Bantwal: These M&A situations and these take privates, in particular, we think are real sources for Alpha, because when we can kind of bilaterally negotiate a document with sponsors, that are kind of really mutually beneficial, we can really kind of solve for what's important for each other. You know, that tends to be a better dialogue and a better outcome than, you know, when you're kind of in a competitive process, you know, kind of needing to play the game theory of how to kind of lean in vis-a-vis competition.
Vivek Bantwal: These M&A situations and these take privates, in particular, we think are real sources for Alpha, because when we can kind of bilaterally negotiate a document with sponsors, that are kind of really mutually beneficial, we can really kind of solve for what's important for each other. You know, that tends to be a better dialogue and a better outcome than, you know, when you're kind of in a competitive process, you know, kind of needing to play the game theory of how to kind of lean in vis-a-vis competition.
Speaker #3: That tends to be a better dialogue and a better outcome than when you're kind of in a competitive process, kind of needing to play the game theory of how to lean in vis-à-vis competition.
Finian O'Shea: Appreciate that, and I guess name specific, that's very helpful. Sort of as a follow-up, I'll give you and the team a plug for the shareholder letter on semi-liquids. Not having studied your non-traded semi-liquid as much, just curious if there is a different structure that administers the sort of safe flaws in semi-liquid and evergreen altogether, or if it's just a matter of better education, as other prominent voices have been saying as well. Appreciate that.
Speaker #5: I appreciate that. And I guess name-specific is very helpful. And sort of as a follow-up, I'll give you in the team a plug for the shareholder letter on semi-liquids not having studied the your non-traded semi-liquid as much.
Finian O'Shea: Appreciate that, and I guess name specific, that's very helpful. Sort of as a follow-up, I'll give you and the team a plug for the shareholder letter on semi-liquids. Not having studied your non-traded semi-liquid as much, just curious if there is a different structure that administers the sort of safe flaws in semi-liquid and evergreen altogether, or if it's just a matter of better education, as other prominent voices have been saying as well. Appreciate that.
Speaker #5: Just curious if there is a different structure that administers the sort of, say, flaws in semi-liquid in an evergreen altogether. Or if it's just a matter of better education, as other prominent voices have been saying as well.
Speaker #5: Appreciate that.
Speaker #3: Yeah, no, thank you, Stan. And thanks for the feedback on the letter—we appreciate that. Look, the first thing I'd say, and I think this is really important, is we don't have different standards for different vehicles or different types of investors.
Vivek Bantwal: Yeah. No, thank you, Finian. Thanks for the feedback on the letter. We appreciate that. you know, look, the first thing I'd say, and I think this is really important, is, we don't have different standards for different vehicles or different types of investors. We have a single process that goes through a single investment committee, and that's a very robust process and a high bar. A deal needs to meet that high bar to go into our platform. Once it's in our platform, you know, we kind of allocate it proportionally, based on the kind of criteria of the different vehicles on a formulaic basis.
Vivek Bantwal: Yeah. No, thank you, Finian. Thanks for the feedback on the letter. We appreciate that. you know, look, the first thing I'd say, and I think this is really important, is, we don't have different standards for different vehicles or different types of investors. We have a single process that goes through a single investment committee, and that's a very robust process and a high bar. A deal needs to meet that high bar to go into our platform. Once it's in our platform, you know, we kind of allocate it proportionally, based on the kind of criteria of the different vehicles on a formulaic basis.
Speaker #3: We have a single process that goes to a single investment committee and that's a very robust process and a high bar. And so a deal needs to meet that high bar to go into our platform.
Speaker #3: And then, once it's in our platform, we kind of allocate it proportionally based on the criteria of the different vehicles on a formulaic basis.
Speaker #3: So there's no kind of, oh, this kind of good deals go to here. Other deals go there. There's none of that. Everyone kind of shares in this.
Vivek Bantwal: There's no, you know, there's no kind of, you know, oh, this kind of good deals go here, you know, other deals go there. Like, there's none of that. Like, everyone kind of shares in this. The second point I'll make is from a fee standpoint, and this goes back to your question on Clearwater. Any economics that we make on these deals get passed through to the LPs in the vehicles directly. They completely benefit on a pro rata basis from kind of any value or economics that the platform is able to create. I think that's also important and quite valuable. You know, look, the other thing and, you know, as you said, we spent time on this kind of in the letter.
Vivek Bantwal: There's no, you know, there's no kind of, you know, oh, this kind of good deals go here, you know, other deals go there. Like, there's none of that. Like, everyone kind of shares in this. The second point I'll make is from a fee standpoint, and this goes back to your question on Clearwater. Any economics that we make on these deals get passed through to the LPs in the vehicles directly. They completely benefit on a pro rata basis from kind of any value or economics that the platform is able to create. I think that's also important and quite valuable. You know, look, the other thing and, you know, as you said, we spent time on this kind of in the letter.
Speaker #3: The second point I'll make is from a fee standpoint, and this goes back to your question around Clearwater. Any economics that we make on these deals get passed through to the LPs in the vehicles directly.
Speaker #3: So they completely benefit on a pro-rata basis from kind of any value or economics that the platform is able to create. And so I think that's also important and quite valuable.
Speaker #3: Look, the other thing—and as you said, we spent time on this kind of in the letter. So, we don't use the word 'semi-liquid.'
Vivek Bantwal: You know, we don't use the word semi-liquid. We understand what people mean when they use that phrase. I think it's really, I think the thing you have to think about is the actual liquidity provisions in these vehicles are more nuanced than that. When we sit down with clients to kind of talk about our non-traded BDC, we make sure that we kind of go through and they understand exactly how it works. And understand that, you know, part of the proposition is these are illiquid assets, and part of the premium that you're getting in private credit versus public credit is for that illiquidity.
Vivek Bantwal: You know, we don't use the word semi-liquid. We understand what people mean when they use that phrase. I think it's really, I think the thing you have to think about is the actual liquidity provisions in these vehicles are more nuanced than that. When we sit down with clients to kind of talk about our non-traded BDC, we make sure that we kind of go through and they understand exactly how it works. And understand that, you know, part of the proposition is these are illiquid assets, and part of the premium that you're getting in private credit versus public credit is for that illiquidity.
Speaker #3: We understand what people mean when they use that phrase. But I think it's really—I think the thing you have to think about is the actual liquidity provisions in these vehicles are more nuanced than that.
Speaker #3: And so when we sit down with clients to kind of talk about our non-traded BDC, we make sure that we kind of go through and they understand exactly how it works.
Speaker #3: And understand that part of the proposition is these are illiquid assets. And part of the premium that you're getting in private credit versus public credit is for that illiquidity.
Speaker #3: Now, relative to a drawdown fund, there are some liquidity mechanisms that have nuance to them. In terms of redemption, repurchase caps, and certain types of vehicles, the manager also has the board has the right to actually gate.
Vivek Bantwal: Now, relative to a drawdown fund, there are some liquidity mechanisms that have nuance to them, in terms of, you know, redemption, repurchase caps and, you know, certain types of vehicles the manager, you know, also the board has the right to actually gate. There's like provisions to it. At the end of the day, we want people who understand what they're getting into, who are thinking about that holistically in the context of the portfolio construction, so that they're, you know, kind of only allocating the part of their portfolio where they want this extra spread. They understand the trade-offs on the liquidity. They're allocating a portion of that portfolio where they don't, you know, kind of need that liquidity for an extended period of time.
Vivek Bantwal: Now, relative to a drawdown fund, there are some liquidity mechanisms that have nuance to them, in terms of, you know, redemption, repurchase caps and, you know, certain types of vehicles the manager, you know, also the board has the right to actually gate. There's like provisions to it. At the end of the day, we want people who understand what they're getting into, who are thinking about that holistically in the context of the portfolio construction, so that they're, you know, kind of only allocating the part of their portfolio where they want this extra spread. They understand the trade-offs on the liquidity. They're allocating a portion of that portfolio where they don't, you know, kind of need that liquidity for an extended period of time.
Speaker #3: So there's provisions to it. And so at the end of the day, we want people who understand what they're getting into who are thinking about that holistically in the context of the portfolio construction so that they're kind of only allocating the part of their portfolio where they want this extra spread.
Speaker #3: They understand the trade-offs on the liquidity. And so they're allocating a portion of that portfolio where they don't kind of need that liquidity for an extended period of time.
Vivek Bantwal: The second thing that I think is really important is, we've been very intentional in the way that we've kind of sized our vehicle. The vast majority of our capital is drawdown capital. Obviously, it's easier to modulate as a platform when your evergreen money is only a minority of your capital. You don't have deployment pressure. I think one of the risks that one runs if they allow that kind of retail component to get too big, is there's a risk that it starts to kind of impact credit selection. One of the things that we wanna make sure that we're always doing is, as a platform that's been in this business for 30 years, we wanna make sure that we're investors, not asset gatherers, not deployers.
Speaker #3: And then the second thing that I think is really important is we've been very intentional in the way that we've kind of sized our vehicle.
Vivek Bantwal: The second thing that I think is really important is, we've been very intentional in the way that we've kind of sized our vehicle. The vast majority of our capital is drawdown capital. Obviously, it's easier to modulate as a platform when your evergreen money is only a minority of your capital. You don't have deployment pressure. I think one of the risks that one runs if they allow that kind of retail component to get too big, is there's a risk that it starts to kind of impact credit selection. One of the things that we wanna make sure that we're always doing is, as a platform that's been in this business for 30 years, we wanna make sure that we're investors, not asset gatherers, not deployers.
Speaker #3: So, the vast majority of our capital is drawdown capital. And obviously, it's easier to modulate as a platform when your evergreen money is only a minority of your capital.
Speaker #3: You don't have deployment pressure. I think one of the risks that one runs if they allow that kind of retail component to get too big is there's a risk that it starts to kind of impact credit selection.
Speaker #3: And one of the things that we want to make sure that we're always doing is as a platform that's been in this business for 30 years, we want to make sure that we're investors, not asset gatherers, not deployers.
Speaker #3: And so, yet that has an impact on growth. Obviously, it's easier to scale faster if you're kind of going all in on the retail channel.
Vivek Bantwal: Yeah, that has an impact on growth. Obviously, it's easier to scale faster if you're kind of going all in on the retail channel. We think with a more measured approach, we're in a really, really good position to kind of just navigate cycles. We saw as it says in the letter, we saw inflows kind of reduce a little bit in Q4. We saw kind of redemption activity kind of pick up. Again, our metrics were quite favorable to what we saw in the industry.
Vivek Bantwal: Yeah, that has an impact on growth. Obviously, it's easier to scale faster if you're kind of going all in on the retail channel. We think with a more measured approach, we're in a really, really good position to kind of just navigate cycles. We saw as it says in the letter, we saw inflows kind of reduce a little bit in Q4. We saw kind of redemption activity kind of pick up. Again, our metrics were quite favorable to what we saw in the industry.
Speaker #3: But we think with a more measured approach, we're in a really, really good position to kind of just navigate cycles. And so, we saw—as it says in the letter—we saw some inflows kind of reduce a little bit in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #3: We saw kind of redemption activity kind of pick up. Again, our metrics were quite favorable to what we saw in the industry. But we think that by having diversified sources of funding, you'll be in a position where you can kind of deploy capital kind of through the cycle and put yourself in the best position to try to generate the best risk-adjusted returns for clients.
Vivek Bantwal: We think that by having diversified sources of funding, you'll be in a position where you can kind of deploy capital kind of through the cycle and, you know, put yourself in the best position to try to generate the best risk-adjusted returns for clients.
Vivek Bantwal: We think that by having diversified sources of funding, you'll be in a position where you can kind of deploy capital kind of through the cycle and, you know, put yourself in the best position to try to generate the best risk-adjusted returns for clients.
Finian O'Shea: Good stuff. I'll do one follow. Dividend, you guys have historically been front-footed about that. Incentive fee adjusted, so for look-through adjusted, you look a little bit below, any sort of updated views on how you're thinking about the 32 base?
Finian O'Shea: Good stuff. I'll do one follow. Dividend, you guys have historically been front-footed about that. Incentive fee adjusted, so for look-through adjusted, you look a little bit below, any sort of updated views on how you're thinking about the 32 base?
Speaker #5: Good stuff. I'll do one follow. Dividend—you guys have historically been front-footed about that. Incentive fee adjusted SOFR, look-through adjusted, you look a little bit below.
Speaker #5: Any sort of updated views on how you're thinking about the 32 base?
Speaker #4: Yeah. No, we feel pretty good about we reset that last year. With the curve and everything in mind, the other thing I would say is we're somewhat optimistic that we see some spread widening here.
Stanley Matuszewski: You know, Finn, we feel pretty good about. You know, we reset that last year, you know, with the curve and everything in mind. You know, the other thing I would say is we're somewhat optimistic that we see, you know, some spread widening here. You know, it's early days yet. I think a lot of people are still in price discovery, but we're seeing anywhere from 25 to 50 basis points in both coupon as well as OID. You know, roll that through the model, we feel very comfortable with the dividend as it's set today.
Stanley Matuszewski: You know, Finn, we feel pretty good about. You know, we reset that last year, you know, with the curve and everything in mind. You know, the other thing I would say is we're somewhat optimistic that we see, you know, some spread widening here. You know, it's early days yet. I think a lot of people are still in price discovery, but we're seeing anywhere from 25 to 50 basis points in both coupon as well as OID. You know, roll that through the model, we feel very comfortable with the dividend as it's set today.
Speaker #4: It's early days yet. I think a lot of people are still in price discovery, but we're seeing anywhere from 25 to 50 basis points in both coupon as well as OID.
Speaker #4: So roll that through the model, we feel very comfortable with the dividend as it's set today.
Finian O'Shea: Very good. Okay, thanks, everybody.
Finian O'Shea: Very good. Okay, thanks, everybody.
Speaker #5: Very good. Okay. Thanks, everybody.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Vivek Bantwal: Thank you.
Vivek Bantwal: Thank you.
Operator: We'll go next to Robert Dodd with Raymond James.
Operator: We'll go next to Robert Dodd with Raymond James.
Speaker #1: We'll go next to Healy Sheth with Raymond James.
Speaker #6: Good morning. Thanks for the question. So I believe you mentioned that spillover is at $0.97 a share, and that's kind of starting to approach, or it's over, actually, three-quarters of the base dividend.
Robert Dodd: Good morning. Thanks for the question. I believe you mentioned that spillover is at $0.97 a share. That's kind of starting to approach, or it's over actually three quarters of the base dividend. Is there any strategy there looking forward, how we should think about deployment of that spillover heading into 2026? Will it be used to cover any shortfall of earnings?
Robert Dodd: Good morning. Thanks for the question. I believe you mentioned that spillover is at $0.97 a share. That's kind of starting to approach, or it's over actually three quarters of the base dividend. Is there any strategy there looking forward, how we should think about deployment of that spillover heading into 2026? Will it be used to cover any shortfall of earnings?
Speaker #6: Is there any strategy they're looking forward, how we should think about deployment of that spillover heading into 2026? And will it be used to cover any shortfall of earnings?
Speaker #4: Yeah. So in terms of the spillover, that's come down year over year. We had done with the restructure of our dividend structure into base and supplemental structure, earlier in 2025, we utilized a certain portion of that spillover.
Stanley Matuszewski: Yeah, in terms of the spillover, that's come down year-over-year. We had done, you know, with the restructure of our dividend structure into base and supplemental structure earlier in 2025, we utilized a certain portion of that spillover. You know, to the extent that we would need to, we could issue a special distribution. We don't have any current plans for that right now. You know, as a result of our supplemental distributions, we could also issue some, or we could also distribute some incremental NII.
Stanley Matuszewski: Yeah, in terms of the spillover, that's come down year-over-year. We had done, you know, with the restructure of our dividend structure into base and supplemental structure earlier in 2025, we utilized a certain portion of that spillover. You know, to the extent that we would need to, we could issue a special distribution. We don't have any current plans for that right now. You know, as a result of our supplemental distributions, we could also issue some, or we could also distribute some incremental NII.
Speaker #4: To the extent that we would need to, we could issue a special distribution. We don't have any current plans for that right now. And as a result of our supplemental distributions, we could also issue some or we could also distribute some incremental NII.
Speaker #6: Got it. Thanks for the caller. And as a quick follow-up, as originations and repayments remain kind of elevated in this environment, are you seeing any sort of shift in the mix of the deals that you're seeing in the pipeline, whether it be in terms of sponsor or non-sponsor incumbent versus new borrowers, LTVs?
Robert Dodd: Got it. Thanks for the color. A quick follow-up, as originations and repayments remain kind of elevated in this environment, are you seeing any sort of shift in the mix of the deals that you're seeing in the pipeline, whether it be in terms of sponsor or non-sponsor, incumbent versus new borrowers, LTVs?
Robert Dodd: Got it. Thanks for the color. A quick follow-up, as originations and repayments remain kind of elevated in this environment, are you seeing any sort of shift in the mix of the deals that you're seeing in the pipeline, whether it be in terms of sponsor or non-sponsor, incumbent versus new borrowers, LTVs?
Speaker #3: No, I wouldn't say the composition of the deal flows changing. I would say that there continues to be signs that kind of M&A activity is sort of picking up.
Vivek Bantwal: No, I wouldn't say the composition of the of the deal flow is changing. I would say that, you know, there continues to be signs that, you know, kind of M&A activity is sort of picking up. Obviously, not in software, you know, just given what's happened kind of in public markets in and around software. I'd say in other parts of the, you know, kind of in other industries, we are kind of seeing more dialogue, and we'll see where that dialogue goes.
Vivek Bantwal: No, I wouldn't say the composition of the of the deal flow is changing. I would say that, you know, there continues to be signs that, you know, kind of M&A activity is sort of picking up. Obviously, not in software, you know, just given what's happened kind of in public markets in and around software. I'd say in other parts of the, you know, kind of in other industries, we are kind of seeing more dialogue, and we'll see where that dialogue goes.
Speaker #3: Obviously not in software, just given what's happened kind of in public markets in and around software. But I'd say in other parts of, kind of, in other industries, we are kind of seeing more dialogue, and we'll see where that dialogue goes.
Speaker #6: Got it. Thank you.
Robert Dodd: Got it. Thank you.
Robert Dodd: Got it. Thank you.
Operator: We'll go next to Ethan Kaye with Lucid Capital Markets.
Operator: We'll go next to Ethan Kaye with Lucid Capital Markets.
Speaker #1: We'll go next to Ethan Kaye with Lucid Capital Markets.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for the question. Appreciate the general color on software. You did mention you rolled out this AI kind of risk framework in the beginning of 2025.
Ethan Kaye: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for the question. Appreciate the general color on software. You did mention you rolled out this AI kind of risk framework in the beginning of 2025. You know, with that being said, it sounds like you were kind of cognizant of some of the risks, you know, cognizant of the emerging risks prior to that, but maybe formalized it in 2025. I guess I'm curious, you know, when you apply that framework to the current portfolio, do you find any names that maybe kind of wouldn't have, you know, passed muster had they been underwritten while that framework was in place?
Ethan Kaye: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for the question. Appreciate the general color on software. You did mention you rolled out this AI kind of risk framework in the beginning of 2025. You know, with that being said, it sounds like you were kind of cognizant of some of the risks, you know, cognizant of the emerging risks prior to that, but maybe formalized it in 2025. I guess I'm curious, you know, when you apply that framework to the current portfolio, do you find any names that maybe kind of wouldn't have, you know, passed muster had they been underwritten while that framework was in place?
Speaker #7: With that being said, it sounds like you were kind of cognizant of some of the risks. Cognizant of that emerging risk prior to that, but maybe formalized it in 2025.
Speaker #7: But I guess I'm curious—when you apply that framework to the current portfolio, did you find any names that maybe wouldn't have passed muster had they been underwritten while that framework was in place?
Speaker #4: Yeah. No, thanks for the question, Ethan. As you said, we turned our first deal down for AI in 2023, so we've been aware of this for a long time.
David Miller: Yeah, no, thanks for the question, Eason. As you said, you know, we turned our first deal down for AI in 2023, so we've been aware of this for a long time. You know, we did formalize our AI framework in early 2025 and put it through. Look, the majority of the portfolio stacks up pretty well. There are a few legacy assets that, you know, certainly would fit some of those weaker metrics, and they would be more point solutions. You know, I think you've seen some of those be marked down in the book to date, and we're continuing to work on those, exit those. The other thing I would say is, you know, we, as we pointed out in the script, you know, we're very proactive on account management here.
David Miller: Yeah, no, thanks for the question, Eason. As you said, you know, we turned our first deal down for AI in 2023, so we've been aware of this for a long time. You know, we did formalize our AI framework in early 2025 and put it through. Look, the majority of the portfolio stacks up pretty well. There are a few legacy assets that, you know, certainly would fit some of those weaker metrics, and they would be more point solutions. You know, I think you've seen some of those be marked down in the book to date, and we're continuing to work on those, exit those. The other thing I would say is, you know, we, as we pointed out in the script, you know, we're very proactive on account management here.
Speaker #4: We did formalize our AI framework in early 2025 and put it through, and looked—the majority of the portfolio stacks up pretty well. There are a few legacy assets that certainly would fit some of those weaker metrics, and they would be more point solutions.
Speaker #4: I think you've seen some of those be marked down in the book. To date, and we're continuing to work on those exit those the other thing I would say is as we pointed out in the script, we're very proactive on account management here.
David Miller: You know, one of those names, for example, that was on the weaker side of that AI framework, we sold. We sold it at $0.99 to other lenders that, you know, didn't have the same viewpoint. We're being very proactive with it and watching those names carefully. By and large, we feel pretty good about the software portfolio. The other thing I would point out is, you know, if you take a look at our software portfolio in general, in GSBD, the performance is strong. They had, you know, revenue growth is about 10.3% year-over-year, and margins expand by about five points to 34.3%, which is stronger metrics than the overall portfolio. We feel pretty good about that.
David Miller: You know, one of those names, for example, that was on the weaker side of that AI framework, we sold. We sold it at $0.99 to other lenders that, you know, didn't have the same viewpoint. We're being very proactive with it and watching those names carefully. By and large, we feel pretty good about the software portfolio. The other thing I would point out is, you know, if you take a look at our software portfolio in general, in GSBD, the performance is strong. They had, you know, revenue growth is about 10.3% year-over-year, and margins expand by about five points to 34.3%, which is stronger metrics than the overall portfolio. We feel pretty good about that.
Speaker #4: One of those names, for example, that was on the weaker side of that AI framework, we sold. And we sold it at 99 cents to other lenders that didn't have the same viewpoint.
Speaker #4: So we're being very proactive with it and watching those names carefully. But, by and large, we feel pretty good about the software portfolio. The other thing I would point out is, if you take a look at our software portfolio in general, in GSBD, the performance is strong.
Speaker #4: They had revenue growth is about 10.3% year over year. And margins expand by about 5 by about 5 points to 34.3%, which is stronger metrics than the overall portfolio.
Speaker #4: So we feel pretty good about that.
Speaker #7: Great. Appreciate that color. I guess on repurchases, so you guys have prudently been kind of buying back shares here. You mentioned you repurchased over 50 million under the current authorization, which I believe is 75 million.
Ethan Kaye: Great. Appreciate that color. I guess, on repurchases, you know, you guys have prudently been kind of buying back shares here. You mentioned you repurchased over $50 million under the current authorization, which I believe is $75 million, through June. You know, I know it's formulaic, but, you know, given what you know about the inputs, you know, and the underlying formula, I'm wondering kinda whether you anticipate that, you know, full utilization of that $75 million by expiration, and then whether, you know, you would explore kind of a new authorization in, you know, second half of 2026.
Ethan Kaye: Great. Appreciate that color. I guess, on repurchases, you know, you guys have prudently been kind of buying back shares here. You mentioned you repurchased over $50 million under the current authorization, which I believe is $75 million, through June. You know, I know it's formulaic, but, you know, given what you know about the inputs, you know, and the underlying formula, I'm wondering kinda whether you anticipate that, you know, full utilization of that $75 million by expiration, and then whether, you know, you would explore kind of a new authorization in, you know, second half of 2026.
Speaker #7: Through June. And I know it's Formulaic, but given what you know about the inputs and the underlying formula and wondering kind of whether you anticipate that full utilization of that 75 million by expiration and then whether you would explore kind of a new authorization in the second half of '26.
Speaker #4: Sure, thank you for the question. So, one of the inputs, as you mentioned, is formulaic so that it can operate at any time.
Stanley Matuszewski: Sure. Thank you for the question. You know, one of the inputs into. As you mentioned, it is formulaic, so that it can operate, you know, at any time. One of the inputs into that formula is our net debt-to-equity ratio. You know, that ticked up period over period, and it's right around our target. You know, that is one of the limiting factors in us buying back. I think we will continue to assess the ability to utilize that program in the future. As you mentioned, we still have, you know, approximately $23 million of room within that program. We've been taking, you know, a measured approach to issuing that, but it's also going to depend on the other opportunities we see in the market and where spreads go.
Stanley Matuszewski: Sure. Thank you for the question. You know, one of the inputs into. As you mentioned, it is formulaic, so that it can operate, you know, at any time. One of the inputs into that formula is our net debt-to-equity ratio. You know, that ticked up period over period, and it's right around our target. You know, that is one of the limiting factors in us buying back. I think we will continue to assess the ability to utilize that program in the future. As you mentioned, we still have, you know, approximately $23 million of room within that program. We've been taking, you know, a measured approach to issuing that, but it's also going to depend on the other opportunities we see in the market and where spreads go.
Speaker #4: One of the inputs into that formula is our net debt to equity ratio. And so that ticked up period over period. It's right around our target.
Speaker #4: And so that is one of the limiting factors. And us buying back, I think we will continue to assess the ability to utilize that program in the future.
Speaker #4: As you mentioned, we still have approximately $23 million of room within that program. We've been taking a measured approach to issuing that, but it's also going to depend on the other opportunities we see in the market and where spreads go.
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you, guys.
Ethan Kaye: Great. Thank you, guys.
Ethan Kaye: Great. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
David Miller: Thank you.
David Miller: Thank you.
Operator: This concludes the question and answer session. At this time, we will turn the call over to Vivek for any closing remarks.
Operator: This concludes the question and answer session. At this time, we will turn the call over to Vivek for any closing remarks.
Speaker #1: This concludes the question and answer session at this time. We'll turn the call over to Vivek for any closing remarks.
Vivek Bantwal: Thanks, everyone, for the time today. We really appreciate the continued engagement and look forward to continuing the dialogue. Let us know if you have any more questions. Have a great rest of the day.
Speaker #3: Thanks, everyone, for the time today. We really appreciate the continued engagement and look forward to continuing the dialogue. Let us know if you have any more questions, and have a great rest of the day.
Vivek Bantwal: Thanks, everyone, for the time today. We really appreciate the continued engagement and look forward to continuing the dialogue. Let us know if you have any more questions. Have a great rest of the day.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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