Q1 2026 SL Green Realty Corp Earnings Call

April 16, 2026

Speaker #2: Good day, everyone. Our conference call will be starting soon. It will be starting within approximately two minutes. Thank you for standing by. Please continue to stand by.

Operator: Thank you everybody for joining us, and welcome to SL Green Realty Corp's Q1 2026 Earnings Results Conference Call. This conference call is being recorded. At this time, the company would like to remind listeners that during the call, management may make forward-looking statements. You should not rely on forward-looking statements as predictions of future events, as actual results and events may differ from any forward-looking statements that management may make today. All forward-looking statements made by management on this call are based on their assumptions and beliefs as of today.

Speaker #2: Thank you, everybody, for joining us, and welcome to SL Green Realty Corp's first quarter 2026 earnings results conference call. This conference call is being recorded.

Speaker #2: At this time, the company would like to remind listeners that during the call, management may make forward-looking statements. You should not rely on forward-looking statements as predictions of future events, as actual results and events may differ from any forward-looking statements that management may make today.

Speaker #2: All forward-looking statements made by management on this call are based on their assumptions and beliefs as of today. Additional information regarding the risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause such differences to appear are set forth in the risk factors and MD&A sections of the company's latest Form 10-K and other subsequent reports filed by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Operator: Additional information regarding the risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause such differences to appear are set forth in the Risk Factors and MD&A sections of the company's latest Form 10-K and other subsequent reports filed by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Also, during today's conference call, the company may discuss non-GAAP financial measures as defined by Regulation G under the Securities Act. The GAAP financial measure most directly comparable to each non-GAAP financial measure discussed, and the reconciliation of the differences between each non-GAAP financial measure and the comparable GAAP financial measure, can be found on both the company's website at www.slgreen.com. By selecting the press release regarding the company's Q1 2026 earnings, and in our supplemental information included in our current report on Form 8-K relating to our Q1 2026 earnings.

Speaker #2: Also, during today's conference call, the company may discuss non-GAAP financial measures, as defined by Regulation G under the Securities Act. The GAAP financial measure most directly comparable to each non-GAAP financial measure discussed, and the reconciliation of the differences between each non-GAAP financial measure and the comparable GAAP financial measure, can be found on the company's website at www.slgreen.com.

Speaker #2: By selecting the press release regarding the company's first quarter 2026 earnings and in our supplemental information included in our current report on Form 8-K relating to our first quarter 2026 earnings.

Operator: By selecting the press release regarding the company's Q1 2026 earnings, and in our supplemental information included in our current report on Form 8-K relating to our Q1 2026 earnings. Before turning the call over to Marc Holliday, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of SL Green Realty Corp., I ask that those of you participating in the Q&A portion of the call please limit yourself to two questions per person. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Before turning the call over to Marc Holliday, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of SL Green Realty Corp, I ask that those of you participating in the Q&A portion of the call please limit yourself to two questions per person.

Operator: Before turning the call over to Marc Holliday, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of SL Green Realty Corp., I ask that those of you participating in the Q&A portion of the call please limit yourself to two questions per person. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Marc Holliday. Please go ahead, Marc.

Speaker #2: Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Marc Holliday. Please go ahead, Marc.

Operator: I will now turn the call over to Marc Holliday. Please go ahead, Marc.

Speaker #3: Thank you for joining us today. At the conclusion of what was an excellent quarter here at SL Green, we achieved nearly all of our objectives—and then some.

Marc Holliday: Thank you for joining us today at the conclusion of what was an excellent quarter here at SL Green. We achieved nearly all of our objectives and then some. I know there's some misunderstanding in the analyst community about the cadence of our quarterly earnings. Internally, we were right on our numbers for Q1 and advanced many of our objectives for the year. The headline news starts with our leasing, where we had the single biggest first quarter in the 28-year history of this company. We signed 51 leases totaling 930,000 sq ft with a mark-to-market that was 16% higher than the previously fully escalated rents on the same spaces. The takeaway is pretty clear and consistent with what we've been saying for some time now. There is a massive imbalance in the prime office market.

Marc Holliday: Thank you for joining us today at the conclusion of what was an excellent quarter here at SL Green. We achieved nearly all of our objectives and then some. I know there's some misunderstanding in the analyst community about the cadence of our quarterly earnings. Internally, we were right on our numbers for Q1 and advanced many of our objectives for the year. The headline news starts with our leasing, where we had the single biggest first quarter in the 28-year history of this company. We signed 51 leases totaling 930,000sq ft with a mark-to-market that was 16% higher than the previously fully escalated rents on the same spaces. The takeaway is pretty clear and consistent with what we've been saying for some time now. There is a massive imbalance in the prime office market.

Speaker #3: I know there's some misunderstanding in the analyst community about the cadence of our quarterly earnings, but internally we were right on our numbers for Q1 and advanced many of our objectives for the year.

Speaker #3: The headline news starts with our leasing, where we had the single biggest first quarter in the 28-year history of this company. We signed 51 leases totaling 930,000 square feet, with a mark-to-market that was 16% higher than the previously fully escalated rents on the same spaces.

Speaker #3: The takeaway is pretty clear and consistent with what we've been saying for some time now. There is a massive imbalance in the prime office market.

Speaker #3: At its core, we lease premium space to sophisticated users, and right now demand far outstrips remaining supply after so many years of lease-up, both in our portfolio and city at large, especially in these Midtown locations.

Marc Holliday: At its core, we lease premium space to sophisticated users, and right now, demand far outstrips remaining supply after so many years of lease-up, both in our portfolio and city at large, especially in East Midtown. The vacancy rate for trophy buildings dropped again to 3.4% at the end of Q1, which is essentially saying there's no space at all in that segment of the market. As a result, we are seeing continued escalation of rent levels for these buildings and significant improvement in net effective rents, which greatly benefits our portfolio, which, as you know, is mostly centered in this area. I don't expect this situation to abate anytime soon. On the one hand, the business climate in New York remains really good. Look at some year-end 2025 stats that came out in Q1.

Speaker #3: The vacancy rate for trophy buildings dropped again to 3.4% at the end of the first quarter, which is essentially saying there's no space at all in that segment of the market.

Speaker #3: As a result, we are seeing continued escalation of rent levels for these buildings, and significant improvement in net effective rents, which greatly benefits our portfolio which, as you know, is mostly centered in this area.

Speaker #3: And I don't expect this situation to abate anytime soon. On the one hand, the business climate in New York remains really good. Look at some year-end '25 stats that came out in the first quarter.

Speaker #3: City tax revenues reached $80 billion in ’25, 16% higher than pre-pandemic, and that’s a record level. Real estate tax collections grew by almost 3% year over year.

Marc Holliday: City tax revenues reached $80 billion in 2025, 16% higher than pre-pandemic, and that's a record level. Real estate tax collections grew by almost 3% year over year. Personal income taxes were up nearly 12% year over year. Just shows you the enormity of the bonuses and compensation being paid out in the primary business sectors of New York City. $65 billion of record Wall Street securities industry profits in 2025. The prior record was just $61 billion, and that was back in 2009. 160 unicorn startups in New York City, private startups that are valued over $1 billion, and that's the second-largest startup ecosystem behind Silicon Valley. $31 billion was raised in venture capital last year, up 25% from the prior year.

Speaker #3: Personal income taxes were up nearly 12% year over year—just shows you the enormity of the bonuses and compensation being paid out in the primary business sectors of New York City.

Speaker #3: $65 billion of record Wall Street securities industry profits in 2025—the prior record was just $61 billion, and that was back in 2009. 160 unicorn startups in New York City—private startups that are valued over a billion dollars—and that's the second-largest startup ecosystem behind Silicon Valley.

Speaker #3: $31 billion was raised in venture capital last year, up 25% from the prior year. And New York City ranked number one as the talent hub for 2025 graduates, where one in nine college graduates came to New York City.

Marc Holliday: New York City ranked number 1 as the talent hub for 2025 graduates, where 1 in 9 graduates, college graduates, came to New York City. On top of a fundamentally strong local economy, we hope and expect to see macroeconomic improvement in the coming months, which will simply add to the momentum in the leasing market. After leasing more than 1 million sq ft of space in our portfolio year to date, we still have a pipeline of approximately 900,000 sq ft of space, most of which we expect to consummate. The demand continues to be there. On the other side of the equation, there is really no end in sight to the supply crunch. There are 0 new space deliveries anticipated for the next 3 years.

Marc Holliday: New York City ranked number one as the talent hub for 2025 graduates, where one in nine graduates, college graduates, came to New York City. On top of a fundamentally strong local economy, we hope and expect to see macroeconomic improvement in the coming months, which will simply add to the momentum in the leasing market. After leasing more than 1 million sq ft of space in our portfolio year to date, we still have a pipeline of approximately 900,000 sq ft of space, most of which we expect to consummate. The demand continues to be there. On the other side of the equation, there is really no end in sight to the supply crunch. There are 0 new space deliveries anticipated for the next 3 years.

Speaker #3: And so, on top of a fundamentally strong local economy, we hope and expect to see macroeconomic improvement in the coming months, which will simply add to the momentum in the leasing market.

Speaker #3: After leasing more than a million square feet of space in our portfolio year to date, we still have a pipeline of approximately 900,000 square feet of space, most of which we expect to consummate.

Speaker #3: The demand continues to be there. On the other side of the equation, there is really no end in sight to the supply crunch. There are zero new space deliveries anticipated for the next three years.

Speaker #3: With recently completed projects like the Rolex building, 525 Fifth Ave, now in the rearview, and new projects like 343 Madison and 625 Madison not expected to complete until sometime around 2029 or 2030, it is simply physically impossible for any other new construction to be delivered between now and the end of 2029 in Midtown Manhattan.

Marc Holliday: With recently completed projects like the Rolex Building, 520 Fifth Ave, now in the rear view, and new projects like 343 Madison and 625 Madison not expected to complete until sometime around 2029 or 2030, it is simply physically impossible for any other new construction to be delivered between now and the end of 2029 in Midtown Manhattan. This presents us with one of the most favorable dynamics that we've seen in quite some time. Therefore, we are proceeding at a very rapid pace on our very own project at 346 Madison, our next great office tower. We just closed on the site in the fall, and already we're issuing 100% schematic design on 1 May, just six months from the acquisition, and proceeding immediately into design development. We expect to be filing the project into ULURP, the city's land use approval process, by the end of this year.

Speaker #3: This presents us with one of the most favorable dynamics that we've seen in quite some time. Therefore, we are proceeding at a very rapid pace on our very own project at 346 Madison, our next great office tower.

Speaker #3: We just closed on the site in the fall, and already we're issuing 100% schematic design on May 1st—just six months from the acquisition—and proceeding immediately into design development.

Speaker #3: We expect to be filing the project into Euler, the city's land use approval process, by the end of this year. That is a much faster pace than we achieved with One Vanderbilt.

Marc Holliday: That is a much faster pace than we achieved with One Vanderbilt. I'm also very happy with the way the design programming of the building is progressing. We've already been out talking to select potential tenants, top brokers, presenting the project, and getting extremely good feedback confirming we're heading in the right direction with this new development. I expect on the next call to be able to give you some financial details after we price the project with our construction manager and obtain some major trade feedback in the coming months. Our other big development project at 750 Third Ave is also making great progress as we sit in last quarter. We now have an agreement with our final remaining tenant for full vacant possession, which enabled us to start fully mobilizing and commencing execution of contracts for work.

Speaker #3: I’m also very happy with the way the design programming of the building is progressing. We’ve already been out talking to select potential tenants and top brokers, presenting the project, and getting extremely good feedback confirming we’re heading

Speaker #1: In the right direction with this new development, I expect on the next call to be able to give you some financial details.

Speaker #1: After we price the project with our construction manager and obtain some major trade feedback in the coming months, our other big development project at 7 53rd Ave is also making great progress.

Speaker #1: As we sit in last quarter, we now have an agreement with our final remaining tenant for full vacant possession, which enabled us to start fully mobilizing and commencing execution of contracts for work.

Speaker #1: We are now in the early stages of procurement, and so far we are tracking on or below budget by successfully navigating tariffs and inflation.

Marc Holliday: We are now in the early stages of procurement, and so far we are tracking on or below budget by successfully navigating tariffs and inflation. Work is far advanced on interior demolition, and in the coming months, we hope to finalize our arrangements for debt and equity capital. We also made progress on our disposition goals this quarter, entering into contract to sell the residential and retail components of our 7 Dey project and closing on the sale of 690 Madison Avenue with our JV partner. More to come in the ensuing months as we progress our way through the $2.5 billion disposition plan. We also took advantage of compelling opportunities in the credit market via our debt fund, which is really performing well thus far.

Speaker #1: Work is far advanced on interior demolition, and in the coming months we hope to finalize our arrangements for debt and equity capital. We also made progress on our disposition goals this quarter, entering into contract to sell the residential and retail components of our Seven Day project and closing on the sale of 690 Madison Avenue with our JV partner. More to come.

Speaker #1: In the ensuing months, as we progress our way through the $2.5 billion disposition plan, we also took advantage of compelling opportunities in the credit market via our debt fund, which is.

Speaker #1: Really performing well thus far . We put out $226 million . Since our last call , including a transaction closing today , bringing total committed to about 567 million out of the total $1.3 billion fund .

Marc Holliday: We put out $226 million since our last call, including a transaction closing today, bringing total committed to about $567 million out of the total $1.3 billion fund. All of this positive activity is propelled by a very strong city economy, and we don't expect a summer lull this year as sometimes occurs in years past. In fact, we're expecting a big summer with FIFA World Cup and the nation's 250th birthday celebrations, bringing big crowds and lots of economic activity to the city in June and July. We are forecasting a big boost and shot in the arm, which bodes well for Summit in particular, for our restaurant venues, and for the city generally. We feel good about the city and state budget situation as well.

Speaker #1: All of this positive activity is propelled by a very strong city economy, and we don't expect a summer lull this year, as sometimes occurs in years past.

Speaker #1: In fact, we're expecting a big summer, with the FIFA World Cup and the nation's 250th birthday celebrations bringing big crowds and lots of economic activity to the city in June and July.

Speaker #1: We are forecasting a big boost in 'shot in the arm,' which bodes well for Summit in particular, for our restaurant venues, and for the city generally.

Speaker #1: We feel good about the city and state budget situation as well. The rating agencies did send a message to the new administration about wanting to see some efficiencies in the budget, being negotiated.

Marc Holliday: The rating agencies did send a message to the new administration about wanting to see some efficiencies in the budget being negotiated now, and the budget that will be in place at the city level by June. I have every confidence the budget gap will be solved through revenue enhancements, expense control, and support from the state. As has been reported, one piece of that sounds like it will be a new pied-à-terre tax, which the governor announced yesterday with the support of the mayor and the city council speaker. Once you get past the notion that we need to find some revenue enhancements as part of this budget process, I give credit to the governor for taking a pragmatic and surgical approach to ensure that all New Yorkers, residents or not, are paying a fair share.

Speaker #1: Now , and the budget that will be in place at the city level by June . And I have every confidence the budget gap will be solved through revenue enhancements , expense control and support from the state , as has been reported , one piece of that sounds like it will be a new pied a terre tax , which the governor announced yesterday with the support of the mayor and the City Council speaker Once you get past the notion that we need to find some revenue enhancements as part of this budget process , I give credit to the governor for taking a pragmatic and surgical approach to ensure that all New Yorkers , residents are not are paying a fair share .

Speaker #1: This is a concept that has the support of many New Yorkers because it narrows the focus and impact to the highest earning non York City residents who otherwise pay no New York City income tax and benefit from New York City's exceptionally low residential real estate taxes Last , but definitely not least , since we last met , we announced the promotion of Harrison Sitomer to president and CIO when Andrew Mathias left the president's seat 25 years after 25 years of service , we didn't rush to find his permanent successor , and instead we took a measured approach to filling this important position .

Marc Holliday: This is a concept that has the support of many New Yorkers because it narrows the focus and impact to the highest earning non-New York City residents who otherwise pay no New York City income tax and benefit from New York City's exceptionally low residential real estate taxes. Last but definitely not least, since we last met, we announced the promotion of Harrison Sitomer to President and CIO. When Andrew Mathias left the presidency 25 years after 25 years of service, we didn't rush to find his permanent successor, and instead, we took a measured approach to filling this important position. I wanted someone who truly represents our culture, ethos, and excellence, which is what distinguishes and defines who we are, and Harry is all of those things.

Speaker #1: I wanted someone who truly represents our culture, ethos, and excellence, which is what distinguishes and defines who we are. And Harry is all of those things.

Speaker #1: So as our company turns 30 years of age in 2027, this promotion is a big step towards identifying, growing, and supporting the next generation of leaders here, and I hope to have more announcements in the years to come about the continued ascension of our rising stars.

Marc Holliday: As our company turns 30 years of age in 2027, this promotion is a big step towards identifying, growing, and supporting the next generation of leaders here, and I hope to have more announcements in the years to come about the continued ascension of our rising stars. To wrap things up, I think this was a great quarter, and we've made significant early progress on our goals. When we get together in three months, my instinct is that we will have a lot more to talk about next time on the leasing front, the transaction front, and the company performance front. Thank you, and we're now ready to open the line for questions.

Speaker #1: So to wrap things up , I think this was a great quarter , and we've made significant progress on our goals . But when we get together in three months , my instinct is that we will have a lot more to talk about next time .

Speaker #1: On the leasing front, the transaction front, and the company performance front, so thank you. And we're now ready to open the line for questions.

Speaker #2: To ask a question , please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced . To withdraw your question , please press star one one again .

Operator: Our first question comes from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Speaker #2: Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Operator: Our first question comes from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Great . Thanks . Maybe Steve or Mark , could you just comment on the pipeline activity that you quoted ? Mark , I think you said it was 900,000ft .

Steve Sakwa: Great, thanks. Maybe Steve or Mark, could you just comment on the pipeline activity that you quoted, Mark? I think you said it was 900,000 feet. How much of that is kind of new or expansion tenants? How much of that's just maybe pull forward renewals? Maybe just talk a little bit about tenant expectations on expansions in space and how they're thinking about space usage.

Speaker #3: How much of that is is kind of new or expansion tenants ? How much of that is just maybe pull forward renewals and , and , maybe just talk a little bit about kind of tenant expectations on expansions in space and how they're thinking about space usage .

Speaker #1: Well , look , you know , I've got the pipeline in front of me . It's , it's predominantly consistent with last quarter , mostly , you know , a large number of medium sized tenants , which is really good .

Marc Holliday: Well, look, I've got the pipeline in front of me. It's predominantly consistent with last quarter. Mostly, a large number of medium-sized tenants, which is really good and what you'd expect because we don't have a lot of big blocks of space left now that One Madison's fully leased. You got to remember, the nature of our pipeline doesn't necessarily tie into the nature of the pipeline generally for tenants in the market. What it relates to is what's available in our portfolio. What's available in our portfolio right now, where I think two-thirds of our buildings are projected to be at 95% or better on average by-

Speaker #1: And what you'd expect, because we don't have a lot of big blocks of space left. Now that one, Madison, is fully leased.

Speaker #1: So, you know, you got to remember that the nature of our pipeline doesn't necessarily tie into the nature of the pipeline generally for tenants in the market.

Speaker #1: What it relates to is what's available in our portfolio and what's available in our portfolio right now , where I think two thirds of our buildings are projected to be at 95% or better , on average by 98 , 98% or better , 98% or better , two thirds , 98% or better by the end of this year .

Steven M. Durels: 98

Marc Holliday: 98% or better. Two-thirds, 98% or better by the end of this year. We're really just doing new leasing in some of the projects that still have more than that kind of vacancy, 420 Lex, 1185 Avenue of the Americas. Those are the two most prevalent buildings I see on this pipeline, along with a little bit of 1350 Sixth Avenue, a little bit at 100 Park, and then everything else is a deal here or there at 45 Lex, 500 Park, et cetera. I wouldn't extrapolate that that's the market because there are a lot of big tenants in the market, and Steve can talk about that. There's tenants in that 150 to 250 to half a million square foot users and million square foot users. You got to have the inventory.

Speaker #1: We're really just doing new leasing in some of the projects that still have, you know, more than that kind of vacancy for 20 Lex, 1185 Avenue of the Americas.

Speaker #1: You know , those are the two most prevalent buildings I see on this pipeline , along with a little bit of 1350 sixth Avenue , a little bit at 100 Park , and then everything else is a deal here or there at 40 five Lex , 500 Park , etc.

Speaker #1: . So , you know , it's I wouldn't extrapolate that that's the market because there are a lot of big tenants in the market .

Speaker #1: And Steve , can , you know , can talk about that . There's , there's tenants in that 150 to 250 to half 1,000,000 square foot users and million square foot users .

Speaker #1: But you got to have the inventory a , which is why we're leasing up the portfolio . And B , why we , you know , launched so quickly on .

Marc Holliday: A, which is why we're leasing up the portfolio so rapidly, and B, why we launched so quickly on 346, where we'll have 850,000 square feet of brand new, state-of-the-art space to deliver right across the street from One Vanderbilt. Anything you want to add to that, Steve?

Speaker #1: 346, where we'll have 850,000 ft² of brand new, state-of-the-art space to deliver, right across the street from One Vanderbilt. Anything you want to add to that?

Speaker #1: Steve ? Well , of the pipeline of the 900,000ft² , 30% of that pipeline is leases out . So we're on a path to to wrap those up in short order , as we've seen throughout the year , you know , still financial services professional services , and , and tech tenants are predominantly driving the market .

Steven M. Durels: Well, of the pipeline, of the 900,000 sq ft

Steven M. Durels: Well, of the pipeline, of the 900,000 sq ft. 30% of that pipeline is leases out, so we're on a path to wrap those up in short order. As we've seen throughout the year, still financial services, professional services, and tech tenants are predominantly driving the market. I think Marc makes a strong point, which is our pipeline is not dominated by the best of the best buildings. Versus a year or two ago, we're seeing real velocity in the mid-price point buildings, where we're seeing exceptional rent growth as well. Graybar, by way of example, and I've been involved with that building for longer than I want to admit, is at the high water mark in the building's history as far as rents that are being achieved.

Steven M. Durels: 30% of that pipeline is leases out, so we're on a path to wrap those up in short order. As we've seen throughout the year, still financial services, professional services, and tech tenants are predominantly driving the market. I think Marc makes a strong point, which is our pipeline is not dominated by the best of the best buildings. Versus a year or two ago, we're seeing real velocity in the mid-price point buildings, where we're seeing exceptional rent growth as well. Graybar, by way of example, and I've been involved with that building for longer than I want to admit, is at the high water mark in the building's history as far as rents that are being achieved.

Speaker #1: And I think Mark makes a strong point, which is our pipeline is not dominated by the best of the best buildings, you know, versus a year or two ago.

Speaker #1: We're seeing real velocity in the mid-price point buildings where we're seeing exceptional rent growth as well . You know , Graybar , by way of example , and I've been involved with that building for longer than I want to admit , is that the high water mark in the building's history , as far as rents that are being achieved .

Speaker #1: And I guess , lastly , I would say on the concession side , where clearly we've seen rents rise , but t I s have flattened and in some cases , particularly where we have a lot of a lot of leverage , they're coming down modestly , but free rent is clearly starting to come down .

Steven M. Durels: I guess lastly, I would say on the concession side, where clearly we've seen rents rise, but TIs have flattened, and in some cases, particularly where we have a lot of leverage, they're coming down modestly, but free rent is clearly starting to come down. In particular, on our renewals, we're having a great deal of success in controlling our concessions.

Speaker #1: And in particular on our renewals, we're having a great deal of success in controlling our concessions.

Speaker #3: Great , thanks . That's a good color . Maybe , Mark , just on the transaction front , I'm just curious what feedback or , you know , data points you're getting from some of the overseas investors .

Steve Sakwa: Great. Thanks. That's good color. Maybe Marc, just on the transaction front, I'm just curious what feedback or data points you're getting from some of the overseas investors. I don't know to what extent any of the Middle Eastern investors either are distracted or have other uses of capital that may not want to come to the US at this point. Just, any thoughts or things you could share about overseas investors looking at the US market, in New York in particular?

Speaker #3: You know , I don't know to what extent , you know , any of the Middle Eastern investors either are distracted or have other , you know , uses of capital that , you know , may not want to come to the US at this point , just , you know , any thoughts or things you could share about overseas investors looking at the US market in New York in particular ?

Speaker #4: Well , you know , our counterparties for the most part , whether it be partners , you know , Callenders , you know , groups that are giving us special servicing assignments , groups we asset management manage for the predominant , you know , country of origins tend to be Asia , you know , Europe , Canada , and domestic just , just , you know , you know , by the nature of our partners , we don't have a lot of partnerships or counterparties in the Middle East .

Marc Holliday: Well, our counterparties, for the most part, whether it be partners, co-lenders, groups that are giving us special servicing assignments, groups we have to manage for, the predominant countries of origin tend to be Asia, Europe, Canada, and domestic. Just, you know by the nature of our partners, we don't have a lot of partnerships or counterparties in the Middle East, so I can't really give you any direct feedback there. Only anecdotal feedback, which is, as you would expect, countries like, and sovereigns from Saudi Arabia and Qatar and UAE, maybe not to the same extent, but you'd throw UAE in there as well, are definitely, I think, pulling in their horns at the moment, while they assess that which they're committed for versus how they look at deployment of new capital. That's really just there.

Speaker #4: So I can't really give you any direct feedback . There . Only anecdotal feedback , which is , as you would expect , countries like and sovereigns from Saudi Arabia .

Speaker #4: And , Qatar and , you know , UAE , maybe not to the same extent , but you throw UAE in there as well .

Speaker #4: Are definitely , I think , you know , pulling in their horns at the moment while they assess that which they're committed for versus , you know , how they look at , you know , deployment of new capital .

Speaker #4: But that's , that's really just there . I'm not seeing that and we're not seeing that in the other markets . If anything , we're still seeing what we talked about three months ago on the phone where I think Harry gave you good color on the feedback .

Marc Holliday: I'm not seeing that, and we're not seeing that in the other markets. If anything, we're still seeing what we talked about three months ago on the phone, where I think Harry gave you good color on the feedback we were getting, particularly on the heels of the last trip we did out to Asia, Japan, Korea, and elsewhere. That's still, to this day, I would say, strong appetite in both for credit and for equity. Again, equity for well-located assets of the highest quality and generally, relationships we have, so factoring in our sponsorship and relationship there. I think we feel very good about being able to execute the joint ventures and the financings that we have scheduled for this year with counterparties from those parts of the region. I don't think we've seen any material shift in those folks.

Speaker #4: We were getting , particularly on the heels of the last trip we did out to , you know , to Asia and Japan , Korea and elsewhere .

Speaker #4: That's still to this day . I would say strong appetite in both , you know , for credit and , and for equity .

Speaker #4: But again , equity for well , assets of the highest quality . And generally , you know , relationships , we have . So factoring in our sponsorship and relationship there .

Speaker #4: So I think we feel very good about being able to execute the , you know , the joint ventures and , and the financings that we have scheduled for this year with counterparties from those parts of the region .

Speaker #4: And I don't think we've seen any material shift in those folks , albeit , you know , if you're dependent on Middle East capital , I'm sure it's a different story .

Marc Holliday: Albeit if you're dependent on Middle East capital, I'm sure it's a different story. Harry?

Speaker #4: Harry . Yeah .

Speaker #5: The only thing I would add there is just , you know , in moments of macroeconomic uncertainty Proven hard assets and , and proven locations , you know , continue to demonstrate resiliency .

Harrison Sitomer: Yeah. The only thing I would add there is just, in moments of macroeconomic uncertainty, proven hard assets in proven locations continue to demonstrate resiliency. We saw that obviously with the One Madison Avenue financing that we got done that was sort of, I think, met with some of you down at Citi as we were pricing that deal in the early days of the Middle East conflict. That deal ended up having 44 investors across all of the classes. Certain classes in that deal were 7x oversubscribed. I think one piece that our business specifically is going to benefit from is over the past few years, we have not been heavily reliant on private credit. This industry, what we invest in, has not been boosted up. We have not seen big valuations coming out of big private credit loans.

Speaker #5: You saw that, obviously, with the One Madison Avenue financing that we got done. That was sort of—met with some of you down at Citi as we were pricing that deal in the early days of the Middle East conflict.

Speaker #5: That deal ended up having 44 investors across all the classes . Certain classes in that deal where seven times oversubscribed . You know , I think one piece that our our business specifically is going to benefit from is over the past few years , we have not been heavily reliant on private credit .

Speaker #5: This industry was, you know, what we invest in has not been boosted up. We have not seen big valuations coming out of big private credit loans.

Speaker #5: And as a result of that, I think we're far more resilient for what's going on right now than probably most, if not all, other industries.

Steven M. Durels: As a result of that, I think we're far more resilient for what's going on right now than probably most, if not all, other industries.

Harrison Sitomer: As a result of that, I think we're far more resilient for what's going on right now than probably most, if not all, other industries.

Speaker #3: Great, thanks for the color.

Steve Sakwa: Great. Thanks for the color.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from John Kim with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from John Kim with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: Thanks .

John Kim: Thanks. You're at 94.4% lease occupancy. Your target for the year is 94.8, and you have a 900,000 square foot pipeline. I'm just wondering if there's upside to that target that you have for the year. Same question on leasing spreads. Again, you had 16% for the quarter, and your target figure is around 10%.

John P. Kim: Thanks. You're at 94.4% lease occupancy. Your target for the year is 94.8, and you have a 900,000 square foot pipeline. I'm just wondering if there's upside to that target that you have for the year. Same question on leasing spreads. Again, you had 16% for the quarter, and your target figure is around 10%.

Speaker #6: So you're at 94.4% leased occupancy. Your target for the year is 94.8%. Nine-hundred-thousand square foot pipeline. So I'm just wondering if there's upside to that target that you have for the year.

Speaker #6: And same question on leasing spreads—given you had 16% for the quarter and your target figure is around 10%.

Speaker #7: It's . Matt . So we increased in our press release last night . Our year end , same store occupancy target from 94.8 to 95 .

Steven M. Durels: It's Matt. We increased in our press release last night our year-end same-store occupancy target from 94.8 to 95. We've gotten the upside there. Mark-to-market, we had a healthy objective. It was clearly a very healthy number in Q1. We still have nine months to go, but well on track for our objective there. We typically don't revisit

Matthew J. DiLiberto: It's Matt. We increased in our press release last night our year-end same-store occupancy target from 94.8 to 95. We've gotten the upside there. Mark-to-market, we had a healthy objective. It was clearly a very healthy number in Q1. We still have nine months to go, but well on track for our objective there. We typically don't revisit leasing objectives after just three months. You kind of want to get at least six months in before we do that. Obviously, the momentum we have coming out of Q1 puts us on a great track to meet or exceed even the objectives we laid out back in December.

Speaker #7: So we've gotten the upside there . Mark to market . You know , we we had a healthy objective . It was clearly a very healthy number in the first quarter .

Speaker #7: We still have nine months to go . But well on track for our for our objective . There . You know , we typically don't revisit , you know , leasing objectives after just three months .

Matthew DiLiberto: ... leasing objectives after just three months. You kind of want to get at least six months in before we do that. Obviously, the momentum we have coming out of Q1 puts us on a great track to meet or exceed even the objectives we laid out back in December.

Speaker #7: You kind of want to get at least six months in before we do that . But obviously , you know , the momentum we have coming out of first quarter puts us on great track to , you know , meet or exceed even the objectives we laid out back in December

Speaker #6: Okay . And then on your economic occupancy went up sequentially this quarter to 85.9 , which is positive , but it's still below your I think your guidance or target for the year , which is around 89% .

John Kim: Okay. Then on your economic occupancy went up sequentially this quarter to 85.9%, which is positive, but it's still below, I think your guidance or target for the year, which is around 89%. I'm just wondering if you could talk about how the cadence of economic occupancy goes for the remainder of the year and the impact that will have on same-store NOI.

John P. Kim: Okay. Then on your economic occupancy went up sequentially this quarter to 85.9%, which is positive, but it's still below, I think your guidance or target for the year, which is around 89%. I'm just wondering if you could talk about how the cadence of economic occupancy goes for the remainder of the year and the impact that will have on same-store NOI.

Speaker #6: So I'm just wondering if you could talk about how the cadence of economic occupancy goes for the remainder of the year and the impact that will have on same-store NOI?

Speaker #7: Sure . I'll give you a flippant answer , but it's the truth . It's obviously going up sequentially over the course of the next three quarters to get to that 89% objective that we set out for the end of the year , and we're on , you know , the path for that , which then sets up to our , you know , 10% same store cash and why growth objective for , for 2027 .

Matthew DiLiberto: Sure. I'll give you a flippant answer, but it's the truth. It's obviously going up sequentially over the course of the next three quarters to get to that 89% objective that we set out for the end of the year. We're on the path for that, which then sets up to our 10% same-store cash NOI growth objective for 2027. All in all, Q1 on every metric we look at was on or ahead of our expectations. Clearly, the leasing metrics speak for themselves, a record quarter, not just on volume, but on starting rents. The trajectory from earnings to spend all as good or better than what we expected. Great cadence into the back three quarters of the year.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: Sure. I'll give you a flippant answer, but it's the truth. It's obviously going up sequentially over the course of the next three quarters to get to that 89% objective that we set out for the end of the year. We're on the path for that, which then sets up to our 10% same-store cash NOI growth objective for 2027. All in all, Q1 on every metric we look at was on or ahead of our expectations. Clearly, the leasing metrics speak for themselves, a record quarter, not just on volume, but on starting rents. The trajectory from earnings to spend all as good or better than what we expected. Great cadence into the back three quarters of the year.

Speaker #7: I mean, you know, all in all, the first quarter on every metric we look at was on or ahead of our expectations.

Speaker #7: Clearly the leasing metrics were , you know , speak for themselves a record quarter , not just on volume , but on , you know , starting rents .

Speaker #7: But the trajectory from earnings to, you know, spend, all is as good or better than what we expected. So, great cadence into the back half of the back three quarters of the year.

Speaker #6: Thank you

John Kim: Thank you.

John P. Kim: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Speaker #8: Hey . Good afternoon Harrison , just first , congrats . Have a question for you . Just following up on your comments to Steve on private credit .

Alexander Goldfarb: Hey, good afternoon. Harrison, just first, congrats. I have a question for you, just following up on your comments to Steve on private credit. Just as you talk to the various lenders, capital providers, and everyone, do you feel pretty comfortable that private credit is not going to infect real estate, meaning private credit has its own little issues and whether it's software, whatever, but this is not like the second coming of the GFC, like it doesn't seem to be rippling anywhere else? Or do you feel in talking to people that there's some concern that maybe it could broaden?

Speaker #8: Just as you talk to the various lenders, capital providers, and everyone, do you feel pretty comfortable that private credit is not going to affect real estate?

Speaker #8: Meaning private credit has its own little issues . And , you know , whether it's software or whatever . But this is not like the second coming of the GFC .

Speaker #8: Like, it doesn't seem to be rippling anywhere else. Or do you feel, in talking to people, that there's some concern that maybe it could broaden?

Speaker #5: The simple answer is we're just not seeing it . I mean , it's you know , if anything , I would say the the inverse is , you know , some of these private credit investors have been , you know , have felt their pain through the , let's call it software cycle right now .

Harrison Sitomer: The simple answer is we're just not seeing it. If anything, I would say the inverse is some of these private credit investors have felt their pain through the, let's call it softer cycle right now, and they're looking for hard assets. This is one of the first places they're going to look is, as I said earlier, proven locations and proven assets. Right now, I see no sign of any direct impact to our industry or our capital markets environment. Again, we're the beneficiary of having gone through the past few years of we didn't get to see that run up in big private credit demand into our space. Now there's not a lag, hangover effect of those groups pulling out of certain markets. I don't see any direct impact in our business.

Speaker #5: And they're looking for hard assets . And , you know , this is one of the first places they're going to look is , as I said earlier , proven locations and proven assets .

Speaker #5: Right now, I see no sign of any direct impact to our industry or our capital markets environment. And again, we're a beneficiary of having gone through the past few years, where we didn't get to see that run-up and big private credit demand into our space.

Speaker #5: And so now there's not a lag , you know , hangover effect of , of those groups pulling out of certain markets . So I don't see any direct impact in our business .

Speaker #5: Again, I think you have to look to One Madison, which we priced probably in the toughest week you could have imagined, between a conflict in the Middle East and all the redemptions that you saw in the news in private credit.

Harrison Sitomer: Again, I think you have to look to 1 Madison, which we priced probably in the toughest week you could have imagined between a conflict in the Middle East and all of the redemptions that you saw on the news in private credit. As I said, 44 distinct investors, certain classes, 7 times oversubscribed. We didn't feel one ripple effect of any private credit lender in the market.

Speaker #5: And as I said , 44 distinct investors , certain classes , seven times oversubscribed . We didn't feel one ripple effect of any private credit lender in the market .

Speaker #8: Okay . And the second question is , you know , Steve , you mentioned , you know , the strength of the more value proposition .

Alexander Goldfarb: Okay. The second question is, Steve, you mentioned the strength of the more value proposition. We've had a focus this cycle on premier amenity, et cetera. Do you see an opportunity for you guys to acquire B buildings, especially right around your core Park Avenue, Grand Central, where maybe now is the chance to buy the B assets and sort of create more density of your portfolio in your target sub-markets?

Speaker #8: We've had a focus this cycle on on Premier Amenity , etc. . But do you see an opportunity for you guys to acquire B buildings , especially right around your core Park Avenue , Grand Central , where maybe now is the chance to buy the B assets and sort of , you know , create more density of your portfolio in in your target submarkets .

Speaker #4: Well , Alex , I mean , it depends how you , you know , when you say B assets , you know , we're buying assets to convert , we're buying assets to develop .

Marc Holliday: Well, Alex, it depends when you say B assets, we're buying assets to convert. We're buying assets to develop. We're not buying B assets to hold and operate, if B is defined as kind of real commodity space, even though there's probably, on a relative basis, a lot of upside in those assets. I would expect, you're not wrong, there will be a tail effect here, and you will see quote, your B asset rents go up. We're trying very hard and intentionally to deal not just in a sector where we think rents are going up, but where we think net effect of rents can be maximized. For that, you're really looking mostly for the highest nominal head rents, whether they be $100, $150, $200 a foot or more for new development, even rents in the 90s, $100.

Speaker #4: We're not buying B assets to hold and operate . If B is defined as kind of , you know , real commodity space , even though there's probably on a relative basis , a lot of upside in those assets .

Speaker #4: So I would expect , you know , you're not wrong . There will be a tail effect here . And you will see your B asset rents go up .

Speaker #4: But we're trying very hard, and intentionally, to deal not just in a sector where we think rents are going up, but where we think net effective rents can be maximized.

Speaker #4: And for that , you're really looking mostly for the highest nominal head rents , whether they be 100 , 150 , $200 a foot or more for new development .

Speaker #4: Even , you know , rents in the 90s , a hundred , if you're dealing with assets where rent points might be in the 50s , 60s and 70s , you know , even though you may experience some pretty good nominal rent growth .

Marc Holliday: If you're dealing with assets where rent points might be in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, even though you may experience some pretty good nominal rent growth, 5, 10, you could see rent spikes of 10% or more. You still have concessions for those leases that are relatively the same, in terms of number of free rent and amount of TI per foot, construction costs, as for the much higher nominal rents. We just think there's more margin, by a lot, in dealing in the 90 and up, 100 and up dollar a square foot rents. That drives us for hold assets or let's call them redevelopment candidates into that sector.

Speaker #4: You know, you could see rent spikes of 10% or more. You still have concessions for those leases that are relatively the same.

Speaker #4: You know , in terms of number of free rent and amount of tea per foot construction costs . As for the much higher nominal rents .

Speaker #4: So we just think there's more margin , you know , by a lot in dealing in the , you know , 90 and up , 100 and up dollars a square foot rents and that drives us for , you know , hold assets or what's called redevelopment candidates into that sector .

Speaker #4: So, unless we feel we can ultimately execute a program and drive rents into those upper categories, then I don't think you'll see us participate there, even though I do think rents and prices are moving in the B assets.

Marc Holliday: Unless we feel we can ultimately execute a program and drive rents into those upper categories, then I don't think you'll see us participate there, even though I do think rents and prices are moving in the B assets, and it's not a bad play.

Speaker #4: And it's not a bad play.

Speaker #8: Thank you

Alexander Goldfarb: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Nicolas Yulico with Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Nicholas Yulico with Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Speaker #9: Thanks . You know , first question is just going back to the you know , the idea that there's really not much new supply coming to market in the city for , you know , four years or so , can you just talk a little bit more about how that you think that actually plays out then in the market , you know , kind of relative to your portfolio , submarkets in terms of , I mean , it sounds like it should be a benefit , but in some cases too , I imagine , like the new supply is being looked at by tenants that have , you know , lease expirations four years out .

Nicholas Yulico: Thanks. First question is just going back to the idea that there's really not much new supply coming to market in the city for four years or so. Can you just talk a little bit more about how that you think that actually plays out then in the market, kind of relative to your portfolio, sub-markets, in terms of it. It sounds like it should be a benefit, but in some cases, too, I imagine, like the new supply is being looked at by tenants that have lease expirations four years out, so there's no real benefit sort of today to buildings from that. So maybe you could just unpack that dynamic a little bit more. Thanks.

Speaker #9: So there's no real benefit, sort of, to today to buildings from that. So maybe you could just unpack that dynamic a little bit more.

Speaker #9: Thanks .

Speaker #1: I think there's two two things to take away from that . One is , you know , tenants are getting smart to the market and they're seeing that rents are rising and that's driving those that are paying attention to do early renewals .

Marc Holliday: Well, I think there's two things to take away from that. One is, tenants are getting smart to the market, and they're seeing that rents are rising, and that's driving those that are paying attention to do early renewals. In some cases, we're in front of tenants that have expirations 3, 4 years out in time, which is great. It's a smart landlord play to be able to do early renewals, take the risk of a downtime or vacancies off the table. There's also the spillover effect, where you're seeing tenants needing to go farther afield or going to one avenue over from where they wanted to be. That's giving lift to some of the other buildings. Within our portfolio, probably the best example of that is 1185 Six.

Steven M. Durels: Well, I think there's two things to take away from that. One is, tenants are getting smart to the market, and they're seeing that rents are rising, and that's driving those that are paying attention to do early renewals. In some cases, we're in front of tenants that have expirations 3, 4 years out in time, which is great. It's a smart landlord play to be able to do early renewals, take the risk of a downtime or vacancies off the table. There's also the spillover effect, where you're seeing tenants needing to go farther afield or going to one avenue over from where they wanted to be. That's giving lift to some of the other buildings. Within our portfolio, probably the best example of that is 1185 Six.

Speaker #1: In some cases , we're in front of tenants that have expirations 3 or 4 years out in time , which is great . It's a smart landlord play to be able to do early renewals , take the risk of downtime or vacancies off the table , but then there's also the spillover effect where you're seeing , you know , tenants go farther afield or going to one avenue over from where they want it to be .

Speaker #1: And , and , you know , that's giving lift to some of the other buildings . And within our portfolio , probably the best example of that is 1185 six .

Speaker #1: I mean , we're seeing some , some pretty heavy rents by comparison to historical rents in that building . And with a tremendous amount of leasing velocity , it's a building that had a lot of tenants vacated over the last several years .

Marc Holliday: We're seeing some pretty heady rents by comparison to historical rents in that building and with a tremendous amount of leasing velocity. It's a building that had a lot of tenants vacate over the last several years, and we're on a path to that building being fully stabilized this year with rents into the mid-$80s to mid-90s a square foot.

Steven M. Durels: We're seeing some pretty heady rents by comparison to historical rents in that building and with a tremendous amount of leasing velocity. It's a building that had a lot of tenants vacate over the last several years, and we're on a path to that building being fully stabilized this year with rents into the mid-$80s to mid-90s a square foot.

Speaker #1: And we're on a path to that building being fully stabilized this year with with rents into the , you know , mid to mid 80s to , to mid 90 s a square foot

Speaker #9: All right . That's helpful . Thanks , Steve . Second question , I guess Matt is you know , going back to sort of quarterly FFO and I know it's you know , you're not planning to give guidance and there's often a lot of , you know , moving parts in a quarter and create some volatility when you guys report .

Nicholas Yulico: All right. That's helpful. Thanks, Steve. Second question, I guess, Matt, is going back to sort of quarterly FFO, and I know you don't plan to give guidance, and there's often a lot of moving parts in a quarter, and creates some volatility when you guys report. I guess if we just think about the Q1 number and then getting back to the full year guidance range, maybe you could just talk at a high level about some of the components that will sort of accelerate FFO throughout the year. Thanks.

Speaker #9: But I guess if we just think about the first quarter number, and then getting back to the full year guidance range, maybe you could just talk at a high level about some of the components that, you know, will sort of accelerate FFO throughout the year.

Speaker #9: Thanks .

Speaker #7: Yeah . No problem . Yeah . You know , our , our quarterly , the reason we don't provide one of the many reasons we don't provide quarterly guidance .

Matthew DiLiberto: Yeah, no problem. Yeah. One of the many reasons we don't provide quarterly guidance, and I'm a big advocate for eliminating quarterly reporting, is quarters can be choppy, and people tend to read too much into whatever a quarterly result is. The reality of our Q1 numbers is that we were not even a penny off from our internal expectations. Not a penny above, not a penny below. Property NOI was better than we expected, as offset by SUMMIT. It was a tough weather quarter, and so SUMMIT underperformed our expectations. Net, right on top of what we expected. As we look out over the balance of the year, we are headed right to the midpoint of our guidance range as well. The FFO results quarter to quarter might be choppy. It's driven by not NOI, which doesn't move that substantially the direction, but by fee income.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: Yeah, no problem. Yeah. One of the many reasons we don't provide quarterly guidance, and I'm a big advocate for eliminating quarterly reporting, is quarters can be choppy, and people tend to read too much into whatever a quarterly result is. The reality of our Q1 numbers is that we were not even a penny off from our internal expectations. Not a penny above, not a penny below. Property NOI was better than we expected, as offset by SUMMIT. It was a tough weather quarter, and so SUMMIT underperformed our expectations. Net, right on top of what we expected. As we look out over the balance of the year, we are headed right to the midpoint of our guidance range as well. The FFO results quarter to quarter might be choppy. It's driven by not NOI, which doesn't move that substantially the direction, but by fee income.

Speaker #7: And I'm a big advocate for eliminating quarterly reporting is , you know , quarters are can be choppy and people tend to read too much into whatever quarterly result is the reality of our first quarter numbers is that we were not even a penny off from our internal expectations , not a penny above , not a penny below .

Speaker #7: Property Noi was better than we expected as offset by , you know , summit . It was a , you know , tough weather quarter .

Speaker #7: And so summit underperformed our expectations . But net , net right on top of what we expected as we look out over the balance of the year , we are headed right to the midpoint of our guidance range as well .

Speaker #7: Those, you know, the FFO results quarter to quarter might be choppy as driven by not NOI, which doesn't move that substantially.

Speaker #7: The direction , but by by fee income . You know , we have businesses that are growing third party fee businesses that are growing .

Matthew DiLiberto: We have businesses that are growing, third-party fee businesses that are growing, and a lot of those fees come in big chunks as opposed to ratably over time. Success fees out of special servicing, fees from transactions. We didn't close big transactions in the quarter. To say nothing for DPOs that we still have in our projections for the balance of the year. Definitely feel comfortable about where we are in the guidance range, biased to the higher end versus the lower end of our range. That will be a cadence that will bounce around quarter to quarter, no doubt.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: We have businesses that are growing, third-party fee businesses that are growing, and a lot of those fees come in big chunks as opposed to ratably over time. Success fees out of special servicing, fees from transactions. We didn't close big transactions in the quarter. To say nothing for DPOs that we still have in our projections for the balance of the year. Definitely feel comfortable about where we are in the guidance range, biased to the higher end versus the lower end of our range. That will be a cadence that will bounce around quarter to quarter, no doubt.

Speaker #7: And a lot of those fees come in , you know , big chunks as opposed to randomly over time , success fees out of special servicing fees from transactions .

Speaker #7: We didn't close , you know , big transactions in the quarter to say nothing for , for dpos that , you know , we still have in our projections for the balance of the year .

Speaker #7: So definitely feel comfortable about where we are in the guidance range . You know , bias to the , to the higher end versus the lower end of our range .

Speaker #7: And you know, that will be a cadence that will bounce around quarter to quarter. No doubt.

Speaker #4: Yeah , I would add to that just , you know , Matt's comment about summit just , you know , summit is a enormous success .

Marc Holliday: Yeah. I would add to that, just Matt's comment about Summit. Summit is an enormous success. Every year, we're pushing the envelope on the earnings capacity of Summit. For 2026 over 2025, we had yet another big increase baked in terms of our expected financial performance. It was off a bit, just a small bit in Q1, but was far and away the leading observation deck in Q1 amongst all the observation deck demand in the city. I think where other decks might have been down 10% or more, Summit really held its own, and I am completely confident, just based on what I've seen in April alone, as the weather's improved, heading into what's going to be an extraordinarily good summer for the reasons I mentioned in my opening commentary.

Speaker #4: You know , every year we're pushing ahead . The , the envelope on the earnings capacity of summit . So for 26 over 25 , we had yet another big increase baked in in terms of our expected financial performance .

Speaker #4: It was off a bit . You know , just a small bit in the first quarter , but was far and away the leading object in the first quarter amongst all the , you know , object demand in the city .

Speaker #4: And , you know , I think where other decks , you know , might have been down or more some , it really held its own .

Speaker #4: And I am completely confident, just based on what I've seen in April, weather has improved heading into what's going to be an extraordinarily good summer for the reasons I mentioned in my opening commentary. I think we're actually going to, you know, end up the year at summit.

Marc Holliday: I think we're actually going to end up the year at Summit ahead of our ambitious targets that we set back in December. We are actually now extending our hours even more than what we originally had budgeted in response to excess demand that we're now seeing for May and June because we're pre-selling those tickets. How that translates into your point about future ramp in FFO for the company, I think Summit will be a contributor.

Speaker #4: You know , ahead . Of our ambitious targets that we set back in December . And , you know , we are actually now extending our hours even , you know , more than what we originally had budgeted in response to excess demand that we're now seeing for May and June .

Speaker #4: Of course , we're pre-selling those tickets . And you know how that translates into , you know , your point about , you know , future ramp in FFO , you know , for the company , I think summit will be a contributor .

Speaker #9: All right . Thanks guys

Nicholas Yulico: All right. Thanks, guys.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Paolone with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Paolone with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker #10: Yeah . Thanks . Good afternoon . First question is on your your 95% targeted leased rate for year end versus kind of where your economic occupancy is .

Anthony Paolone: Yeah, thanks. Good afternoon. First question is on your 95% targeted leased rate for year-end versus where your economic occupancy is. I know the gap's pretty wide, and it's assumed to be narrowing, but can you give us some sense as to maybe where a normal spread between those two should be over time for the portfolio?

Speaker #10: I know the gap's pretty wide, and it's assumed to be narrowing, but can you give us some sense as to maybe where a normal spread between those two should be over time for the portfolio?

Speaker #7: You know , that's a question that's come up a bit . You know , we only started reporting economic occupancy , you know , last quarter .

Matthew DiLiberto: That's a question that's come up a bit. We only started reporting economic occupancy last quarter, so we don't have a perfect vision in reverse. Clearly, it's at the wides right now, and it'll be narrowing substantially over the course of the year to probably half as wide as it was at the end of last year, by the end of 2026. Whereas on a stabilized, normalized basis, it's always going to lag behind leased. But if you're in a what I'll call fully leased portfolio, 95%+ with limited roll, which is the period of time that we're headed into, I could see that being 200 basis points of difference on kind of a recurring basis as space rolls and you re-tenant space. That seems like a comfortable place to be. Maybe it's tighter than that, but 200 feels about right.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: That's a question that's come up a bit. We only started reporting economic occupancy last quarter, so we don't have a perfect vision in reverse. Clearly, it's at the wides right now, and it'll be narrowing substantially over the course of the year to probably half as wide as it was at the end of last year, by the end of 2026. Whereas on a stabilized, normalized basis, it's always going to lag behind leased. But if you're in a what I'll call fully leased portfolio, 95%+ with limited roll, which is the period of time that we're headed into, I could see that being 200 basis points of difference on kind of a recurring basis as space rolls and you re-tenant space. That seems like a comfortable place to be. Maybe it's tighter than that, but 200 feels about right.

Speaker #7: So we don't have perfect vision in reverse. But clearly, it's at the wides right now, and it'll be narrowing—narrowing substantially over the course of the year to probably half as wide as it was at the end of last year.

Speaker #7: By the end of 2026 . Whereas on a stabilized , normalized basis , you know , it's always going to lag behind least .

Speaker #7: But if you're in a you know , what I'll call fully leased portfolio , 95 plus percent with limited role , which is the period we're headed into , you know , I could see that being , you know , 200 basis points of difference on kind of a recurring basis as space , you know , roles and you retenant space that that seems like a , a comfortable place to be .

Speaker #7: Maybe it's tighter, you know, than that. But 200 feels about right.

Speaker #10: Okay . Got it . And then second on the capital markets side , you touched on , I guess some B assets , maybe .

Anthony Paolone: Okay, got it. Second, on the capital market side, you touched on, I guess, some B assets maybe, and some foreign investments, but maybe can you give us a sense as to just how you characterize liquidity broadly in the market right now, whether there's a lot of buyers that are back, a lot of product for sale, the cap rates for the best versus more commodity product, just a more broad sense of liquidity and capital markets at the moment?

Speaker #10: And some foreign investments , but maybe can you give us a sense as to just how you characterize liquidity broadly in the market right now , whether there's a lot of buyers that are back a lot of product for sale , the cap rates for the best versus more commodity product , just just a more broad sense of liquidity and capital markets at the moment .

Speaker #5: Yeah, I think I'll try to break it into equity and debt. On the equity side, I think first and foremost, we always have our head down, focused on our business plan ahead of us.

Harrison Sitomer: Yeah. I think I'll try to break it into equity and debt. On the equity side, I think first and foremost, we always have our head down focused on our business plan ahead of us, and the plan is on track, and we feel good about executing that plan this year. Just as a data point for you, we have 11 transactions in the business plan for this year. Just to give you a couple segmented data points. On the last earnings call, I said we had 4 dispositions that we were working on. When I went to Citi, I said that we had 5 dispositions that we were working on, and now where we sit today, that number is 6. Two of those 6 were the already announced deals at 690 and 7 Dey, and the other 4 transactions are progressing very well.

Speaker #5: And the plan is on track, and we feel good about executing that plan this year. Just as a data point for you, we have 11 transactions in the business plan for this year.

Speaker #5: Just to give you, you know, a couple of segmented data points—on the last earnings call, I said we had four dispositions that we were working on.

Speaker #5: When I went to Citi, I said that we had five dispositions that we were working on, and now, where we sit today, that number is six.

Speaker #5: Two of those six were the already announced deals at 690 and Seven Day, and the other four transactions are progressing very well.

Speaker #5: I would expect all four of those to close or be in contract in the second quarter. So those were the six that we had identified for the first half of the year.

Harrison Sitomer: I would expect all four of those to close or be in contract in the Q2. Those were the six that we had identified for the H1. Those six are on plan, on target, and expected to get done in the H1. With respect to the credit markets, I would say the market is very strong right now, especially because of the CMBS market and the SASB market that we just experienced at One Madison. I'll give you two data points there. One Madison was the largest office deal done in the US since January 2025. The bottom of that deal, again, just to reiterate one last time, priced at a very complicated and difficult week.

Speaker #5: And those six are on plan , on target and expected to get done in the first half of the year . With respect to the credit markets , I would say the market is is is very strong right now , especially because of the CMBS market .

Speaker #5: And the Sasb market that is that we just experienced that one . Madison . I'll give you two data points there . One , Madison was the largest office deal done in the the US since January of 2025 .

Speaker #5: And the bottom of that deal , again , just to reiterate one last time priced , you know , at a very complicated and difficult week , that was the tightest new issuance office spreads at the bottom of the deal , since when we did one Vanderbilt in 2021 .

Harrison Sitomer: That was the tightest new issuance office spreads at the bottom of the deal since when we did One Vanderbilt in 2021. We continue to see new capital coming into the credit markets. We're not feeling any of the lag effects of any of the private credit pullback. Liquidity continues to get stronger in the credit markets as we're seeing it.

Speaker #5: So, you know, we continue to see new capital coming into the credit markets. We're not feeling any of the lag effects of any of the private credit pullback.

Speaker #5: And your liquidity continues to get stronger in the credit markets, as we're seeing it.

Speaker #10: Thanks

Anthony Paolone: Okay, thanks.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Seth Bergey with Citi. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Seth Bergey with Citi. Your line is open.

Speaker #11: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I guess my first one is just going back to kind of some of the summit commentary and some of the demand you're seeing there.

Seth Bergey: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I guess my first one is just going back to kind of some of the Summit commentary and some of the demand you're seeing there. Are you seeing, with the strong demand, an opportunity for kind of premium experience upsells? Or just, how's the pricing side coming along there?

Speaker #11: Are you seeing , you know , with the strong demand , you know , and opportunity for kind of premium experience , upsells or just , you know , how is how is the pricing side coming along there ?

Speaker #4: Well, again, I don't think Q1 is necessarily a good representation of what the next nine months, or eight and a half months, are going to look like.

Marc Holliday: Well, again, I don't think Q1 is necessarily a good representation of what the next 9 months or 8.5 months are going to look like. There's a question about what it was and what it's going to be. The tourism in the city is off a bit. Whether that directly translates into a slightly higher or lower percentage of domestic versus foreign visitation, I don't have that right in front of me at the moment. I do know domestic accounts for about 30%, which is quite high. It's a very popular local attraction as much as it is a tourist attraction, which we've worked hard to transcend both markets. From both observatory in nature and sort of culturally intriguing in nature, as well as thrill features and great place to hang out at night. We sort of pull from all of the above.

Speaker #4: So there's a question about what it was and what it's going to be . You know , the , the tourism in the city , you know , is off a bit .

Speaker #4: So, you know, whether that directly translates into a slightly higher or lower percentage of domestic versus foreign visitation, I don't have that right in front of me at the moment.

Speaker #4: I do know domestic . You know , accounts for about 30% , which is quite high . It's a very popular , you know , local attraction as much as it is a tourist attraction , which , you know , we've worked hard to transcend both markets from both , you know , observatory in and sort of , you know , culturally intriguing in nature as well as , you know , thrill features and great place to hang out at night .

Speaker #4: So we , we sort of pull from all of the above , but clearly when I look at the , you know , the advanced sales that we're starting to book now , you know , it would indicate that tourism is picking up a bit and that , you know , we will be , you know , hopefully able to recoup whatever slight ammunition there was in visitation in the first quarter over the next nine months .

Marc Holliday: Clearly when I look at the advanced sales that we're starting to book now, it would indicate that tourism is picking up a bit and that we will be hopefully able to recoup whatever slight diminution that there was in visitation in Q1 over the next nine months. I think by the end of the year, it's going to be fairly typical in profile to last year, except we're going to see these summer months with a lot of international travel. I think there's expected to be over 1 million people coming in for the FIFA World Cup games that are going to be held, 8 games over in New Jersey at MetLife Stadium.

Speaker #4: And I think by the end of the year, it's going to be fairly typical in profile to last year, except we're going to see these summer months with a lot of international travel.

Speaker #4: I think there's expected to be over a million people coming in for the FIFA World Cup games that are going to be held—eight games—over in New Jersey at MetLife Stadium.

Speaker #4: And then there's supposed to be something like 8 million people plus 8 to 10 million people that are coming in for sale , 250 to celebrate around the Independence Day , the the birthday of the country .

Marc Holliday: There's supposed to be something like 8 million people plus, 8 to 10 million people that are coming in for Sail 250 to celebrate around the Independence Day, the birthday of the country. We are strategically situated to sell out hopefully every day of those months of events. I can't give you much more on that. Ascent, which is the only upsell we have. You mentioned upsells. There's only one. It's the Ascent elevator rides. When the weather is very cold as it was, and the winds are blowing, we don't run that as often as we do periods like now. On the margins, those ticket sales were down a bit, but they've completely bounced right back and more. Nothing there to assess other than Summit's hitting on all fours and we're opening Summit next summer in Paris.

Speaker #4: And we are strategically situated to sell out , hopefully every day of those , you know , of those months of events . So I can't give you much more , you know , on that , you know , ascent , which is the only upsell we have .

Speaker #4: You mentioned upsells . Only one . It's it's the ascent elevator rides . You know , when the when the weather is , you know , very cold as it was .

Speaker #4: And , and the winds are blowing , you know , we , we don't run that as , as often as , as we do periods like now .

Speaker #4: So , you know , on the margins , those ticket sales were down a bit , but they've completely bounced right back and more .

Speaker #4: So nothing, you know, nothing there to assess other than it's hitting on all fours and we're opening Summit next summer in Paris.

Speaker #4: And it's going to be an extraordinary, you know, great day for Summit and for this company. When we have our first global location accepting visitors, with hopefully an additional announcement pending in the coming months.

Marc Holliday: It's going to be an extraordinary, great day for Summit and for this company when we have our first global location accepting visitors with hopefully an additional announcement pending in the coming months.

Speaker #11: Great , thanks . And maybe just a follow up to some of Harrison's comments on on the capital markets side , you know , specifically with the kind of equity markets and the dispositions , can you talk about a little bit about the profiles of who those buyers are for office and residential ?

Seth Bergey: Great. Thanks. Maybe just a follow-up to some of Harrison's comments on the capital markets side. Specifically with the kind of equity markets and the dispositions, can you talk about a little bit about the profiles of who those buyers are for office and residential? Is there a core bid for office? Is it people looking for value or add or opportunistic? Then just any impact on willingness to kind of buy or sell office from thinking about long-term about the impact of AI and on employment.

Speaker #11: Is it is there a core bid for for office ? Is it people looking for value or add or opportunistic ? And then just , you know , any impact on willingness to kind of buy or sell office from , you know , thinking about long term , about the impact of AI and on , on employment .

Speaker #5: Yeah, sure. In terms of the buyer composition pool, I think Marc hit it in his earlier commentary about who some of our investors have been.

Harrison Sitomer: Yeah, sure. In terms of the buyer composition pool, I think Marc hit it in his earlier commentary about who some of our investors have been, and I would say that composition of investor groups have not changed. We spent a lot of time in the beginning of the year on our first roadshow in Asia. We're in the process of closing out a handful of transactions that I mentioned earlier. I would say those buyers are looking at a range. Again, if you look at our disposition plan for the year, includes everything from ground up office buildings to core office buildings to value add office buildings. That market continues to be there for all those different types of products. In terms of the, I think you also asked about the residential side.

Speaker #5: And I would say that the composition of investor groups has not changed. You know, we spent a lot of time in the beginning of the year on our first roadshow in Asia.

Speaker #5: We're in the process of closing out a handful of transactions that I mentioned earlier, and I would say those buyers are looking at a range.

Speaker #5: Again, if you look at our disposition plan for the year, it includes everything from ground-up office buildings to core office buildings to value-add office buildings, and that market continues to be there for all of those different types of products.

Speaker #5: In terms of , you know , the , I think you also asked about the residential side . I mean , you can look very clearly at the latest comp in the market , which is the sale that we did at seven day to a buyer that is a core residential buyer that is continuing to accumulate more product through a public listing that they have in Canada in terms of your , your final question about AI and impact , you know , the investors that we speak and do business with , they're looking at the same stats that we listed to you at the beginning of this call that we announced yesterday .

Harrison Sitomer: You can look very clearly at the latest comp in the market, which is the sale that we did at 7 Dey Street to a buyer that is a core residential buyer that is continuing to accumulate more product through a public listing that they have in Canada. In terms of your final question about AI and impact, the investors that we speak to and do business with, they're looking at the same stats that we listed to you at the beginning of this call that we announced yesterday. Best Q1 of the year for us. New York City, I looked right before this call, it's the best Q1 for New York City office leasing since 2014. Some of that leasing is driven by AI tenants, some of which we've announced. Investors are actually very optimistic about what they're seeing on that front.

Speaker #5: Best first quarter of the year for us, New York City. I looked right before this call. It's the best first quarter for New York City office leasing since 2014.

Speaker #5: Some of that leasing is driven by AI tenants, some of which we've announced. And, you know, investors are actually very optimistic about what they're seeing on that front.

Speaker #11: Thanks

Seth Bergey: Thanks.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Ronald Camden with Oregon. Stanley, your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker #12: Hey , great . Just two quick ones . First , just starting on the postmortem on the dividend cuts . Just wondering if you could talk a little bit more about just what went into the thinking on cutting it to that level , whether it's taxes or , or cash flow and , and sort of why not cut more , right ?

Ronald Kamdem: Hey, great. Just two quick ones. First, just starting on the postmortem on the dividend cut. Just wondering if you could talk a little bit more about just what went into the thinking on cutting it to that level, whether it's taxes or cash flow. Sort of why not cut more, right? Because I think you guys have talked about NOI coming online, but with the high interest cost, the investors are not getting a lot of that flow through. Why not cut the dividend even more to sort of offset that? Thanks.

Speaker #12: Because I think you guys have talked about NOI coming online , but with the with the high interest cost , the investors are not getting a lot of that flow through .

Speaker #12: Why not cut the dividend even more to sort of offset that? Thanks.

Speaker #7: Yeah, you know, we did spend a lot of time discussing the dividend. There are a lot of factors that go into it.

Marc Holliday: Yeah. We did spend a lot of time discussing the dividend. There are a lot of factors that go into it. I think Mark laid out a bunch of them when we did our call back in January. Ultimately, taxable income is what above all else drives the dividend. Our business plan for this year was consistent with the dividend level that we had established. We can maneuver within taxable income to some extent. If we're going to execute on the business plan that we laid out, and we are on a path to do that as we've been talking about so far on this call, then you have to pay the dividend at a certain level, and that dividend is where we established it at $2.47.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: Yeah. We did spend a lot of time discussing the dividend. There are a lot of factors that go into it. I think Mark laid out a bunch of them when we did our call back in January. Ultimately, taxable income is what above all else drives the dividend. Our business plan for this year was consistent with the dividend level that we had established. We can maneuver within taxable income to some extent. If we're going to execute on the business plan that we laid out, and we are on a path to do that as we've been talking about so far on this call, then you have to pay the dividend at a certain level, and that dividend is where we established it at $2.47.

Speaker #7: I think Mark laid out a bunch of them when we did our call back in January. You know, ultimately, taxable income is what, above all else, drives the dividend.

Speaker #7: And our business plan for this year was consistent with the dividend level that we had established . You know , we can , you know , maneuver , you know , within taxable income , you know , to , to some extent , but if we're going to execute on the business plan that we laid out and we are on a path to do that , as we've been talking about so far in this call , then , you know , you have to pay the dividend at a certain level and that dividend is where we established it at 247 .

Marc Holliday: At the same time, it does allow us to retain almost $50 million of incremental capital that we can put to other uses, creative uses, DPOs, maybe buybacks. We will continue to see capital spend go down such that when you get to the H2 of 2027 into 2028, there's a big shift in cash flow to the positive. We'll continue to reevaluate the dividend every year based on taxable income.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: At the same time, it does allow us to retain almost $50 million of incremental capital that we can put to other uses, creative uses, DPOs, maybe buybacks. We will continue to see capital spend go down such that when you get to the H2 of 2027 into 2028, there's a big shift in cash flow to the positive. We'll continue to reevaluate the dividend every year based on taxable income.

Speaker #7: At the same time , it does allow us to retain almost $50 million of incremental capital that we can put to to , you know , other uses , creative uses , dpos , maybe buybacks , and then , you know , we will .

Speaker #7: You know, we continue to see capital spend go down such that, you know, when you get to the back half of '27 into 2028, there's a big shift in cash flow to the positive.

Speaker #7: And then, you know, we'll continue to reevaluate the dividend every year based on taxable income.

Speaker #12: Great . That's really helpful . My second question is just I know , I know fat is obviously not not cash flow . And it was a little bit down sort of in the quarter , maybe as you think about this ramp on NOI that it's anticipating as you get sort of commence occupancy , like any sense of the magnitude of , of , of dollars that are coming through that are going to flow through fad would be helpful .

Ronald Kamdem: Great. That's really helpful. My second question is, just I know FAD is obviously not cash flow. It was a little bit down sort of in the quarter. Maybe as you think about this ramp on NOI that is anticipating as you get sort of commence occupancy, any sense of the magnitude of dollars that are coming through that are going to flow through FAD would be helpful. Thanks.

Speaker #12: Thanks .

Speaker #7: I might be having a flashback , Ron , but I feel like you asked this question last quarter as well , but so I'll probably give you a similar answer .

Matthew DiLiberto: I might be having a flashback, Ron, but I feel like you asked this question last quarter as well, so I'll probably give you a similar answer. The spend in 2026, like in 2025, is the funding of a lot of leasing, 9 million sq ft of leasing we did over a three-year period. That escalates in H2 2027 into 2028, like I just said. Will drive NOI growth north of 10% on a same-store cash basis next year and enhance earnings and enhance FAD. Magnitudes, we'll talk about as time progresses.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: I might be having a flashback, Ron, but I feel like you asked this question last quarter as well, so I'll probably give you a similar answer. The spend in 2026, like in 2025, is the funding of a lot of leasing, 9 million sq ft of leasing we did over a three-year period. That escalates in H2 2027 into 2028, like I just said. Will drive NOI growth north of 10% on a same-store cash basis next year and enhance earnings and enhance FAD. Magnitudes, we'll talk about as time progresses.

Speaker #7: You know , the spend in 2026 , like in 2025 is , you know , the , the funding of a lot of leasing 9,000,000ft² of leasing .

Speaker #7: We did over , you know , a three year period that assuages in , you know , back half of 27 into 28 .

Speaker #7: Like I just said . And we'll drive NOI growth , you know , north of 10% on a same store , cash basis .

Speaker #7: Next year . And , you know , enhance earnings and enhance f a d magnitudes , you know , we'll , we'll talk about as , as time progresses .

Speaker #4: Yeah, I would just.

Ronald Kamdem: Help.

Marc Holliday: I would just say, there's 2 ways to look at it. I only see 1 way, which is we are leasing the hell out of this portfolio, and I don't see any other way to look at it. With that does come leasing capital that we will muscle through in 2025, 2026, and 2027. We're going to try and get this portfolio to in its entirety, 96%, 97%, 98% leased, which it would be unprecedented in this market for 31 million sq ft. Unprecedented because no one owns 31 million sq ft of real estate. Certainly if anyone can appreciate what it would take to get that beyond what I would call the frictional vacancy point of 97%, we are vastly out competing and getting more than our fair market share when it comes to these tenancies.

Speaker #7: Add .

Speaker #4: Either you look , you know , there's two ways to look at it . I only see one way , which is we are leasing the hell out of this portfolio .

Speaker #4: And I don't see any other way to look at it with that. There does come leasing capital that we will, you know, muscle through in '25, '26, and '27.

Speaker #4: But we're going to try and get this portfolio to like , you know , in its entirety , 96.78% leased , which , which , you know , it would be unprecedented in this market for 31,000,000ft² , unprecedented because no one owns 31,000,000ft² of real estate .

Speaker #4: And certainly if anyone , you know , can appreciate what it would take to get , you know , that beyond what I would call the frictional vacancy point of 97% , we are we are vastly out , you know , competing and getting more than our fair market share when it comes to these tendencies .

Speaker #4: We'll pay for that tendency because there was a lot of outmigration, which was for what I would call unnatural reasons, in 2020 to 2024.

Marc Holliday: We'll pay for that tenancy because there was a lot of out-migration, which was for what I would call unnatural reasons, in 2020 through 2024. When we get back, by this time, let's say, next year to the kind of levels I think we're going to get. Forget about this year, and we're already going to work on 2027, and I'm looking beyond 95%. We're sitting here in April. I'm working on stuff in 2027, 2028, and 2029. I want to get this portfolio to full occupancy, and there will be a cost to that. When you attain that, and then you're living in a world mostly of renewal, there will be an enormous right sizing of the capital like we experienced in the past, like we'll experience in the future.

Speaker #4: But when we get back , you know , by this time , let's say next year to , you know , the kind of levels I think we're going to get , forget about this year and we're already going to work on 2027 .

Speaker #4: And I'm looking , I'm looking beyond 95% . That's , you know , we're sitting here in April . I'm working on stuff in 27 , 28 and 29 , trying to I want to get this portfolio to full occupancy and there will be a cost to that .

Speaker #4: But when you attain that and then you're living in a world mostly of renewal, there will be an enormous right of the capital.

Speaker #4: Like we experienced in the past, like we'll experience in the future. That's our business plan. And I think we're not just on track.

Marc Holliday: That's our business plan, and I think we're not just on track, I think we're ahead of track. When I look at these increases in rents, look at our average rents right now. Our expenses are going up by about 2% a year, thereabouts. The rents are going up significantly higher than that. Steve is starting to rein in the capital first on those all-important renewal tenants. We'll see about new tenants. I think this is what shareholders want us to be doing, redeveloping our buildings, having a premium Class A portfolio, leasing it to its absolute fullest, and investing in a portfolio that's going to have an unparalleled residual value in 2027, 2028. We're on track for that.

Speaker #4: I think we're ahead of track . And so , you know , when I look at these increases in rents , look at our average rents right now , you know , our expenses are going up by about 2% a year or thereabouts .

Speaker #4: You know, the rents are going up significantly higher than that. Steve is starting to rein in the capital, first on those all-important renewal tenants.

Speaker #4: And then , you know , we'll see about new tenants . You know , I just I think this is what shareholders want us to be doing , redeveloping our buildings , having a premium class , A portfolio , leasing it to its absolute fullest and investing in a portfolio that's going to have an unparalleled residual value in 20 2728 .

Speaker #4: And we're on track for that . So , you know , there's a lot of minutia and nuance to getting there , but I'd say step back and look at the big picture of what we're doing here .

Marc Holliday: There's a lot of minutiae and nuance to getting there, but I'd say step back and look at the big picture of what we're doing here. It's pretty positive from my vantage point of 36 years in the business. I've never seen a market as good as this one.

Speaker #4: It's pretty positive from my vantage point of 36 years in the business. I've never seen a market as good as this one.

Speaker #12: That's really helpful . And I think , Matt , you're right . I did ask about that and cash flow last quarter . Thank you

Ronald Kamdem: That's really helpful. I think, Matt, you're right. I did ask about FAD and cash flow last quarter. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Speaker #13: Great , thanks . Good afternoon . Maybe just following up on dispositions . Harrison , you mentioned thinking you'd have closed or be under contract on six of the 11 targeted sales by mid-year .

Blaine Heck: Great. Thanks. Good afternoon. Maybe just following up on dispositions. Harrison, you mentioned thinking you'd have closed or be under contract on 6 of the 11 targeted sales by midyear. I guess in rough terms, would those proceeds put you at about half or a little bit more than half of the targeted $2.5 billion of sales this year? Or do those six kind of skew smaller or larger than the remaining five?

Speaker #13: I guess, in rough terms, would those proceeds put you at about half or a little bit more than half of the targeted $2.5 billion of sales this year?

Speaker #13: Are those six kind of skewed smaller or larger than the remaining five?

Speaker #5: The answer is approximately half.

Harrison Sitomer: The answer is approximately half.

Speaker #13: Okay , great . And then Mark , you know , we're now several months into the new mayor's time in office . I appreciate your commentary on the budget , but past that , can you just talk about anything that's been a positive or negative surprise relative to your initial expectations ?

Blaine Heck: Okay, great. Mark, we're now several months into the new mayor's time in office. I appreciate your commentary on the budget, but past that, can you just talk about anything that's been a positive or negative surprise relative to your initial expectations when he was elected, and whether you see any risks or opportunities in your business arising from any of his policy changes?

Speaker #13: When he was elected, and whether you see any risks or opportunities in your business arising from any of these policy changes.

Speaker #4: You know , look , I think it's still very early . And , you know , it's too early to assess any mayoralty in the first , you know , 100 , hundred and 15 days , whatever it's been , probably not even 100 days .

Marc Holliday: Look, I think it's still very early, and it's too early to assess any mayoralty in the first 100, 115 days, whatever it's been. Probably not even 100 days. This is something that's going to be measured over years, not months. I think right now, as I mentioned earlier, when you look at, forget about my opinion, the opinions of the stakeholders in the city. People buying condos. Q1 was a record of $10 million and up condo sales from January through March, I think it was up like 47%. I don't have the baseline number, but I know the percentage was up like 47% or thereabouts on condo sales. Wall Street profits, expansion of tenants. I take my measure from how tenants are reacting to the first 100 days, let's call it.

Speaker #4: You know , it's this is something that's going to be measured over , you know , years , not months . I think right now , as I mentioned earlier , when you look at forget about my opinion , the opinions of the stakeholders in the city , people buying condos , Q1 was a record of $10 million and up condo sales from January through March .

Speaker #4: I think it was up like 47% . I don't have the baseline number , but I know the percentage was up like 47% or thereabouts on , you know , on condo sales , wall Street profits , expansion of tenants .

Speaker #4: You know , I take my rhythm to , you know , Howard tenants to the first 100 days , let's call it . And I'm seeing tenants who are , you know , on a scale of five or 6 to 1 , expanding rather than contracting .

Marc Holliday: I'm seeing tenants who are on a scale of five or six to one expanding rather than contracting. I see a lot of economic activity, not just in financial services, but tech is back. I did a piece on CNBC a couple of weeks ago, and the issue is affordability, right? That is the key issue, and there's different ways to tackle it. Different mayors are going to tackle it in different ways, but we're all sort of in agreement, it's best for the city to make the city more affordable. We'll just may differ about the means of getting there. I do think the current administration's focus to me seems to be on how do we get more production in housing in order to help stabilize or even bring down rents, if that's possible in a market like this.

Speaker #4: I see a lot of economic activity , not just in financial services , but tech is back . So , you know , I said this , I was on a you know , I did a piece on CNBC a couple of weeks ago and , you know , the issue is affordability , right ?

Speaker #4: I mean, that is the key issue. And there are different ways to tackle it. Different mayors are going to tackle it in different ways.

Speaker #4: But we're all sort of in agreement . It's best for the city to make the city more affordable . And , you know , we'll just may differ about the means of getting there .

Speaker #4: But I do think the current administration's focus, to me, seems to be on how do we get more production in housing in order to, you know, help stabilize or even bring down rents, if that's possible in a market like this.

Speaker #4: And , you know , some of those things are , you know , you see the cutting through the red tape on city of yes , outside the city , you know , there's , there's secret revisions , land use revisions that are meant to make it better , easier to , to make this happen .

Marc Holliday: Some of those things are, you see, the cutting through the red tape on City of Yes outside the city. There's CEQR revisions, land use revisions that are meant to make it better, easier to make this happen. There's the conversion, which I know the current administration supports 467-m and wants to see more buildings delivered under that program. A day or two ago, you read something about a program coming out to try and reduce insurance premiums with the city's direct assistance to help reduce insurance premiums for affordable and rent-controlled housing. Having that kind of focus on that area, I think, is productive as long as there's an appreciation that what makes all this work are the tax collections, and what makes the tax collection work is our industry. Our industry right now is firing on all cylinders.

Speaker #4: There's the conversion, which I know the current administration supports for $67 million and wants to see more buildings, you know, delivered under that program.

Speaker #4: I , you know , a day or two ago , you read something about a program coming out to try and reduce insurance premiums with the city's direct assistance to help reduce insurance premiums for affordable and rent controlled housing .

Speaker #4: You know , having that kind of focus on that area , I think is productive . As long as there's an appreciation that , you know , what makes all this work are the tax collections and what makes the tax collection work is our industry and our industry .

Speaker #4: Right now is firing on all cylinders . So , you know , if that , you know , is left unimpeded and we can , you know , hopefully not only equal , but exceed tax receipts this year on top of record receipts last year , then there'll be money in the system to take care of some of this administration's priorities , whether it comes to , you know , trying to reduce the cost of mass transportation or trying to reduce , you know , increase affordability or bring down cost of goods for groceries , again , different means of getting there .

Marc Holliday: If that is left unimpeded and we can hopefully not only equal but exceed tax receipts this year on top of record receipts last year, then there'll be money in the system to take care of some of this administration's priorities, whether it comes to trying to reduce the cost of mass transportation, or trying to increase affordability, or bring down cost of goods for groceries. Again, different means of getting there, but the objectives, I think, align. Right now I see a city that's poised for a very good year.

Speaker #4: But the objectives , I think , align . And right now I see , you know , a city that's poised for , you know , a very good year

Speaker #13: Great. That's very helpful context. Thanks.

Blaine Heck: Great. That's very helpful context. Thanks. Thank you. Our next question comes from Peter Abramowitz with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Blaine Heck: Great. That's very helpful context. Thanks.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Peter Abramowitz with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Peter Abramowitz with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Speaker #14: Hi . Thank you for taking the question , Matt . I just want to go back to your comments . I think you said you'd sort of be biased toward the high end of your guidance range .

Peter Abramowitz: Hi. Thank you for taking the question. Matt, I just want to go back to your comments. I think you said you'd sort of be biased towards the high end of your guidance range. I know you talked earlier about some of the items, particularly fee income, that kind of impacts the ramp throughout the year from Q1 to the rest of the year. But in terms of your expectation particularly to get to the high end, could you talk about some of the specific items that kind of possibly get you there? Is it NOI or is it other items? Just any other commentary on kind of underlying guidance assumptions and whether those have changed.

Speaker #14: I know you talked earlier about some of the items, particularly fee income, that kind of impacts the ramp throughout the year from first quarter to the rest of the year.

Speaker #14: But in terms of your expectation, potentially to get to the high end, could you talk about some of the specific items that could possibly get you there?

Speaker #14: Is it NLI, or is it other items? And just any other commentary on kind of underlying guidance, assumptions, and whether those have changed.

Speaker #7: Yeah , sure . You know , I did mention that in the first quarter , NOI was , you know , running ahead of our projections that also flowed through not just earnings , but through same store cash .

Matthew DiLiberto: Yeah, sure. I did mention that in Q1, NOI was running ahead of our projections. That also flowed through not just earnings, but through same-store cash NOI. That +2.6% was 300 basis points higher than what we expected for Q1. NOI will be a contributor. Mark discussed Summit and the momentum we're seeing already in April and expect over the balance of the year to make up whatever small shortfall there was in Q1. Fee income, our third-party business which Harrison spoke about earlier, our third-party fee business is growing. If we can exceed our initial projections, that's very high margin, high multiple business. We have a DPO in our guidance. If we can source more of that, then that's even beyond what I'm talking about.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: Yeah, sure. I did mention that in Q1, NOI was running ahead of our projections. That also flowed through not just earnings, but through same-store cash NOI. That +2.6% was 300 basis points higher than what we expected for Q1. NOI will be a contributor. Mark discussed Summit and the momentum we're seeing already in April and expect over the balance of the year to make up whatever small shortfall there was in Q1. Fee income, our third-party business which Harrison spoke about earlier, our third-party fee business is growing. If we can exceed our initial projections, that's very high margin, high multiple business. We have a DPO in our guidance. If we can source more of that, then that's even beyond what I'm talking about.

Speaker #7: NOI. That 2.6% positive was 300 basis points higher than what we expected for the first quarter. So NOI will be a contributor.

Speaker #7: Mark discussed summit and the momentum we're seeing already in April . And expect over the balance of the year . You know , to make up whatever , you know , small shortfall .

Speaker #7: There was in the first quarter . You know , fee income . We our third party business , which , you know , Harrison spoke about earlier , our third party fee business is growing .

Speaker #7: If we can exceed our initial projections , you know , that's , you know , very , very high margin , high multiple , high , multiple business .

Speaker #7: And , you know , we have a we have a DPO in our guidance . You know , if we can source more of that , then that's , you know , even beyond what we , what I'm talking about .

Speaker #7: But , you know , I think the momentum coming out of the first quarter on our numbers was certainly biased to , you know , the midpoint or higher .

Matthew DiLiberto: I think the momentum coming out of Q1 on our numbers was certainly biased to the midpoint or higher.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: I think the momentum coming out of Q1 on our numbers was certainly biased to the midpoint or higher.

Speaker #14: Okay . That's helpful . Thank you . And then maybe a question for Mark on on the new administration , you mentioned the terror attacks .

Peter Abramowitz: Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. Then maybe a question for Marc on the new administration. You mentioned the pied-à-terre tax that was kind of first reported yesterday. I believe the estimate for how much revenue incrementally it can raise for the city is around $500 million. That still leaves a pretty big budget shortfall. Just kind of curious from the first 100 days or so of the new administration, they've also talked about taxes on higher-end households as well as higher property taxes, and those have not gotten a lot of support. With still a gap to fill in the budget, I guess just curious what other things you think are possible from a legislative perspective that might fill that and how that potentially could impact your business.

Speaker #14: That was kind of first reported yesterday. I believe the estimate for how much revenue, incrementally, can raise for the city is around $500 million.

Speaker #14: So that still leaves a pretty big budget shortfall to just kind of curious from the first 100 days or so , the new administration , they've they've also talked about taxes on hiring and households , as well as higher property taxes .

Speaker #14: And those have not gotten a lot of support . So we're still , a , you know , a gap to fill in the budget , I guess .

Speaker #14: Just curious, you know, what other things you think are possible from a legislative perspective to that, that might fill that, and how that potentially could impact your business?

Marc Holliday: The City Council and the new City Council Speaker, Julie Menin, I thought, came out very thoughtfully with their own budget. Remember, the mayor has a budget, council has a budget, and their emphasis is going to be on cost cutting. I think the budget last year was like $115 billion. This year is projected $127 billion. Okay? You're not going to get all $12 billion of increase. That's called an initial stab at it. There'll be efficiencies, reductions from that'll be achievable.

Speaker #4: Well , I think you're going to I mean , you know , the city council and the new city Council speaker Julie Menin , you know , I thought came out very thoughtfully with their own budget .

Speaker #4: Remember , the mayor is a council , has a budget . And , you know , their you know , their emphasis is going to be on cost cutting .

Speaker #4: I think the budget last year was like 115 billion . This year is projected 127 billion . Okay . So , you know , you're not going to get all $12 billion of increase .

Speaker #4: That's that's called an initial stab at it , you know , and they'll they'll be efficiencies , reductions from that . That'll be achievable .

Speaker #4: You know , with I think it was about a $5 billion budget . So if you assume the state is going to solve 500 to 1 billion of it , you're talking about 3 to 4% .

Marc Holliday: I think it was about a $5 billion budget, so if you assume the state is going to solve $500 to $1 billion of it, you're talking about 3% to 4% of a gap that needs to be closed with revenue projections that I think will be reassessed higher just based on Q1's tax receipt recognition that will be expected to ripple through for some portion of the remainder of this year. New pied-à-terre tax. The council had some proposals on modifying PTET, which is state and federal tax revenue enhancement for the city, not something we particularly want to see as New Yorkers. There was a modification of UBT, UBIT, and they're going to close that gap. I would say certainly when you get to June, there will be a balanced budget through this incremental tax, some revenue reforecast, and some expense reductions.

Speaker #4: A gap that needs to be closed with revenue projections that I think will be reassessed higher just based on the first quarter's tax receipt recognition that will be expected to ripple through for some portion of the remainder of this year.

Speaker #4: Plus , you know , new tax , you know , plus the council had some proposals on modifying PT , PTT . If you know you know that which which is state and federal tax , you know , revenue enhancement for the city not something we're particularly , you know , want to see as New Yorkers , but you know , there was a modification of UBT ubit and they're going to close that gap .

Speaker #4: I would I would say certainly when you get to June , there will be a balanced budget through , you know , this incremental tax , some revenue forecasts and some expense reductions .

Speaker #4: And the city has gotten there every year since the '70s. They'll get there again.

Marc Holliday: The city has gotten there every year since the 1970s. They'll get there again.

Speaker #15: Yeah , exactly .

Speaker #14: All right. That's all for me. Thank you.

Peter Abramowitz: All right. That's all for me. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Vikram Malhotra with Mizuho. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Vikram Malhotra with Mizuho. Your line is open.

Speaker #16: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I guess just maybe, Mark and Matt, I just want to push maybe a bit more on sort of.

Vikram Malhotra: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I guess just maybe, Marc and Matt, I just want to push maybe a bit more on sort of, you've done a lot of good work getting up the occupancy. You're saying TI is coming in, you have less to lease. You just said you're dealing with 27 expirations. I just want to figure out, can you give us a bit more guardrails on how this ultimately translates to any measure of cash flow you think prudent, FAD, cash flow from operations. You said 10% same-store next year. Really at this point, given you have so much done, it would be nice to get some broad guardrails rather than wait 9, 12 months to get that. How does this translate, whether it's 2027, 2028? And maybe you can just clarify your comment on TI spends in 2026 and 2027.

Speaker #16: You've done a lot of good work getting up the occupancy. You're seeing T is coming in. You have less to leave.

Speaker #16: You just said you're dealing with 27 expirations . So I just I just want to figure out like can you give us a bit more guardrails on how this ultimately translates to any measure of cash flow .

Speaker #16: You think prudent FAD cash flow from operations. You said 10% same-store next year. But really, at this point, given you have so much done, it would be nice to get some broad guardrails rather than wait, like, 9 to 12 months to get that.

Speaker #16: So how does this translate ? Whether it's 27 , 28 ? And maybe you can just clarify your comment on T , I spend in 26 and 27 .

Speaker #16: Do we just wait till '28 before the growth picks up? Thanks so much.

Vikram Malhotra: Do we just wait till 2028 before the growth picks up? Thanks so much.

Speaker #4: Well , you know , I mean , I don't know when you say guardrails , I'm not exactly sure what you mean by guardrails , but .

Marc Holliday: Well, I don't know. When you say guardrails, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by guardrails, but

Speaker #16: I meant, like, is it at least 2%? At least 4%? Is it at least 6%? That 10% we've—

Vikram Malhotra: I meant like, is it at least 2%, at least 4%? Is it at least 6%? That 10% same store-

Marc Holliday: We've given all of that in December. Our projections aren't changed with respect to. There's plenty in the supplemental and our other disclosures to get a handle on the amount of capital that's going to be necessary for our leasing. That's pretty arithmetic, and you see every quarter how much we spend on TI, spend on commission, spend on free rent, based on a quantum of leasing. As we approach 96.7-8% occupancy in this portfolio, I hope we get to 98%. They're going to be spend years for the balance of this year and next. We've said, I thought we were pretty clear that by the time we get to 2028, we expect our FAD to be in line with our dividend that we just recently recalibrated to, and then hopefully and more.

Speaker #4: Given we've given all of that in December are projections aren't changed with respect to and you know , you can it's very . There is there's plenty in the supplemental .

Speaker #4: And our other disclosures to, you know, get a handle on the amount of capital that's going to be necessary for our leasing.

Speaker #4: I mean , that's pretty arithmetic . And you see every quarter how much you spend on t spend on commission spend on free rent .

Speaker #4: You know , based on a quantum of leasing . And , you know , we're going to be as we approach 96 , seven , 8% occupancy in this portfolio , I hope we get to 98% .

Speaker #4: They're going to be spend years for the balance of this year and next . But we said , I thought we were pretty clear that by the time we get to 228 , we expect our fad to be in line with our dividend that we just recently , you know , recalibrated to .

Speaker #4: And then and then , and then hopefully and more . But , you know , we'll get there probably , you know , with that kind of guidance in 27 , but not today .

Marc Holliday: We'll get there probably with that kind of guidance in 2027, but not today.

Speaker #16: Okay . So sorry , just to clarify , you said by 220 , 2028 , you think your fad will be similar to the to the dividend .

Vikram Malhotra: Okay. Sorry, just to clarify, you said by 2028, you think your FAD will be similar to the dividend?

Speaker #4: Well , yeah , but I , I think if you look at my commentary previously on the dividend and what Matt had said in the release , we did when we came out with the new dividend level after our last board meeting , we had said that the new dividend level was set to a level where we expected to be able to cover that dividend and more by 2028 .

Marc Holliday: Yeah, I think if you look at my commentary previously on the dividend and what Matt had said in the release we did when we came out with the new dividend level after our last board meeting. We had said that the new dividend level was set to a level where we expected to be able to cover that dividend and more by 2028. I'm reiterating that, but yes, that's our feeling. That's our belief. That's how we got to that very specific number. It's not a gut instinct. It's based on our models and calculations, and there's lots of scenarios that can play out, and I hope it'll be far in excess of that, because as you know, or I think you know, we try to be very conservative when it comes to our estimations of NAV and growth and projections. Yeah.

Speaker #4: So I'm reiterating that . But yes , that's our feeling . That's our belief . our that's how we got to that very specific number .

Speaker #4: You know , it wasn't I mean , it's not a you know , it's not a gut instinct . It's it's based on our models and calculations .

Speaker #4: And , you know , there's lots of scenarios that can play out . And I hope it'll be far in excess of that because as you know , or I think , you know , we try to be very conservative when it comes to our estimations of Nav and , and growth and projections .

Speaker #4: But you know , yeah , I mean , I think we're headed to a , to a great spot both in earnings and cash flow .

Marc Holliday: I think we're headed to a great spot, both in earnings and cash flow.

Speaker #16: Okay . No , that's great . Yeah . I mean , as I said , you've done a lot of great work . So we're all hoping this is like translating into very solid 2728 growth .

Vikram Malhotra: Okay. No, that's great. Yeah, as I said, you've done a lot of great work, so we're all hoping this is translating into very solid 2027, 2028 growth. Just maybe going back to the Summit question, makes sense that the World Cup should drive a nice uptick. I guess I just wanted to clarify, you said Q1 was a bit depressed, so you're expecting a pickup and then the boost, and a boost hopefully with the World Cup. Is there anything else like, I guess, the other projects in other regions? Can you give us an update where we are? When could we see the next Summit really driving NOI? And by the way, I live next-

Speaker #16: I just—just maybe going back to the summit question, it makes sense that the World Cup should drive a nice uptick. I guess I just wanted to clarify, you said one Q was a bit depressed.

Speaker #16: So you're expecting a pickup and then the boost in boost , hopefully with with the World Cup . But is there anything else like , I guess the other projects and other regions ?

Speaker #16: Can you give us an update where we are ? When could we see like the next summit really driving Noi noi ? And by the way , I live , we .

Speaker #4: Expect to open Paris in summer of ’27, so it's a little more than a year off. And, you know, I'll come out in December with some monetary guidance on that.

Marc Holliday: Well, we expect to open Paris in summer of 2027, so it's a little more than a year off.

Marc Holliday: Well, we expect to open Paris in summer of 2027, so it's a little more than a year off. I'll come out in December with some monetary guidance on that for 2027. It'll only be open half a year, so you have to adjust for that. I expect it's going to be like a seismic, popular, well-attended, hot, new opening. What we've designed is kind of like Summit 2.0 with lots of new features, and it's very exciting. It's very thrilling for me to work with Kenzo and Rob Schiffer on these projects that are now starting to come to life, and we have more beyond. The next locations would not be 2027. They'll be announced this year with future earnings. The first one up would be Paris next year.

Vikram Malhotra: Okay

Marc Holliday: ... I'll come out in December with some monetary guidance on that for 2027. It'll only be open half a year, so you have to adjust for that. I expect it's going to be like a seismic, popular, well-attended, hot, new opening. What we've designed is kind of like Summit 2.0 with lots of new features, and it's very exciting. It's very thrilling for me to work with Kenzo and Rob Schiffer on these projects that are now starting to come to life, and we have more beyond. The next locations would not be 2027. They'll be announced this year with future earnings. The first one up would be Paris next year.

Speaker #4: You know , for 27 it'll only be open half a year . So , you know , you have to adjust for that .

Speaker #4: But I expect it's going to be , you know , like a seismic , you know , popular . Well attended , hot new opening .

Speaker #4: What we've designed is kind of like , you know , summit two O with lots of new features . And it's very exciting .

Speaker #4: It's very , you know , very thrilling for me , you know , to work with Kenzo and Rob Schiffer on these projects that are , you know , now starting to come to life .

Speaker #4: And we have more beyond . But the next , you know , the next locations would not be 27 , you know , they'll be announced this year with with future earnings .

Speaker #4: So, the first one up would be Paris next year.

Speaker #16: Thanks so much, Ashley. I live next to Summit. I've been there five times in the last year, and it's great.

Vikram Malhotra: Oh, thanks so much. I actually live next to Summit. I've been there five times the last year, and it's great.

Speaker #4: Thank you. And I booked your ticket for the ribbon cutting in June of next year.

Marc Holliday: Thank you. Book your ticket for the ribbon cutting in June of next year.

Speaker #16: We'll watch some World Cup matches from the 90th floor.

Vikram Malhotra: We'll watch some World Cup matches from the 90th floor.

Speaker #4: Perfect . You'll have a good bird's eye view from there . All right . Is that it ? We have any . We'll take one more last question .

Marc Holliday: Perfect. You'll have a good bird's eye view from there. All right. Is that it? We'll take one more.

Operator: Do we have any more operators?

Steven M. Durels: Do we have any more operators?

Marc Holliday: One last question.

Speaker #2: Thank you. We have a question from Brendan Lynch with Barclays. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. We have a question from Brendan Lynch with Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker #17: Great. Thank you for fitting me in, Matt. You got a nice reduction in your spread to Sofia with the new revolving line of credit.

Brendan Lynch: Great. Thank you for fitting me in. Matt, you got a nice reduction in your spread to SOFR with the new revolving line of credit. You've been bringing down your cost of debt for the past year. Obviously, it's quite macro-dependent, but do you see other opportunities within your control to reduce your weighted average cost of debt further?

Speaker #17: And you've been bringing down your cost of debt for the past year. Obviously, it's quite macro-dependent, but do you see other opportunities within your control to reduce your weighted average cost of debt further?

Matthew DiLiberto: Yeah. The great execution on the credit facility and appreciate the work of our team and certainly the banks that participated in that. We had a strong financing market backdrop there, but the support from the institutions was really extraordinary. Harrison spoke earlier, and I'll let him expand on where the broader financing market stands. The reality is we have about $3 billion or so left of our $7 billion financing plan for the balance of this year, and then not a lot thereafter. We talked in December about increasing some floating rate exposure because we do expect the curve to, not at the pace we would like, but eventually come down, so we'll let some of our fixed-rate derivatives, things like that, burn off and take advantage of a lower SOFR curve overall.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: Yeah. The great execution on the credit facility and appreciate the work of our team and certainly the banks that participated in that. We had a strong financing market backdrop there, but the support from the institutions was really extraordinary. Harrison spoke earlier, and I'll let him expand on where the broader financing market stands. The reality is we have about $3 billion or so left of our $7 billion financing plan for the balance of this year, and then not a lot thereafter. We talked in December about increasing some floating rate exposure because we do expect the curve to, not at the pace we would like, but eventually come down, so we'll let some of our fixed-rate derivatives, things like that, burn off and take advantage of a lower SOFR curve overall.

Speaker #7: I mean , yeah , the the great execution on the credit facility and you know , appreciate the work of our team . And certainly the banks that participated in that , you know , we had the strong financing market backdrop there , but the support from the institutions was really extraordinary .

Speaker #7: You know , Harrison spoke earlier and I'll let him expand on where the broader financing market stands . You know , the reality is we have about 3 billion or so left of our $7 billion financing plan for the for the balance of this year .

Speaker #7: And then not a lot thereafter . So we talked in December about increasing some floating rate exposure , because we do expect the curve to not at the pace we would like , but eventually come , come down .

Speaker #7: So we'll let some of our , you know , fixed rate derivatives , things like that burn off and take advantage of a lower sofr curve overall .

Speaker #7: And I'll let Harrison to speak to , you know , the financings that we have , you know , in our pipe and , and what we're seeing in the market there .

Matthew DiLiberto: I'll let Harrison speak to the financings that we have in our pipe and what we're seeing in the market there.

Matthew J. DiLiberto: I'll let Harrison speak to the financings that we have in our pipe and what we're seeing in the market there.

Speaker #5: Yeah , we have three , three financings left in the business plan for this year . The largest of which is two . 45 Park Avenue .

Harrison Sitomer: Yeah, we have three financings left in the business plan for this year. The largest of which is 245 Park Avenue. We just started on that process as of yesterday. We'll see that play out through Q2 and Q3 of this year. More on that to come on the next call. I would say, just in terms of pricing, obviously, the base rate we have no influence over, so we'll continue to monitor both SOFR and the Treasury indexes. As we turn to spreads, we continue to be optimistic about the tightening in spreads, especially in the CMBS market. Gave you a few stats earlier, but especially at the bottom of the deals, we're seeing spreads that are tightening even from where we saw One Vanderbilt price. Each deal will be dependent on the quality of the real estate and the execution.

Speaker #5: We've just started on that process as of yesterday. So we'll see that play out through the second and third quarter of this year.

Speaker #5: More on that to come on the next call . And I would say just in terms of pricing , obviously the base rate , we have no influence over .

Speaker #5: So we'll continue to monitor both . Sofr and the Treasury indexes . But as it turns , as we turn to spreads , you know , we continue to be optimistic about the tightening and spreads , especially in the CMBS market .

Speaker #5: I gave you a few stats earlier, but especially at the bottom of the deals, we're seeing spreads that are tightening, even from where we saw one Vanderbilt price.

Speaker #5: So each deal will be dependent on the quality of the real estate and the execution. But, you know, I would definitely expect to see strong execution at 245 Park.

Marc Holliday: I would definitely expect to see a strong execution at 245 Park.

Harrison Sitomer: I would definitely expect to see a strong execution at 245 Park.

Speaker #5: .

Speaker #17: Great , thanks . That's helpful . And the press release alluded to using maybe turning more active on share repurchases . Matt , I think you mentioned that earlier in the call as well .

Brendan Lynch: Great. Thanks. That's helpful. The press release alluded to maybe turning more active on share repurchases, and Matt, I think you mentioned that earlier in the call as well. Could you just talk about what type of conditions or what you would incentivize you to be more active on executing on the existing authorization going forward?

Speaker #17: Could you just talk about what type of conditions or what would incentivize you to be more active on executing on the existing authorization going forward?

Speaker #4: Well , this also , I thought , had been pretty clear on , you know , in the past . I think the stock is , you know , terribly mispriced and I don't even think you got to look that hard , you know , to sort of appreciate the magnitude of the discounted valuation relative to a fairly liquid and active market where it's not that hard to get price discovery and value discovery of assets .

Marc Holliday: Well, this also, I thought I've been pretty clear on in the past. I think the stock is terribly mispriced. I don't even think you got to look that hard to sort of appreciate the magnitude of the discounted valuation relative to a fairly liquid and active market, where it's not that hard to get price discovery and value discovery of assets we own, especially the kind of assets we have, which are well leased and the debt and equity cost of capital is kind of well-known for these assets. I look at it as a significant opportunity that I mentioned we would take a very hard look at with incremental liquidity to the business plan. I forget where exactly we had said that, but I know we've talked about that in the recent past. We've got our plan. Our plan includes investment in new development projects.

Speaker #4: We own , especially the kind of assets we have , which are , you know , well leased and , you know , and the debt and equity cost of capital is kind of well known for these assets .

Speaker #4: So, I look at it as a significant opportunity that I mentioned. We would take a very, very hard look at it with incremental liquidity to the business plan.

Speaker #4: I , you know , I forget where exactly we had said that , but I know we've talked about that in the past in the recent past .

Speaker #4: And , you know , we've got our plan , our plan includes , you know , investment in new development projects or plan includes reduction in in indebtedness , both secured and unsecured .

Marc Holliday: Our plan includes reduction in indebtedness, both secured and unsecured. With incremental liquidity above and beyond that plan, share repurchases are going to get the first and hardest look.

Speaker #4: And then, you know, with incremental liquidity above and beyond that plan, share repurchases are going to get the first and hardest look.

Speaker #17: Great. Thank you very much.

Brendan Lynch: Great. Thank you very much.

Speaker #4: Okay. Okay. Operator, we're all set.

Marc Holliday: Okay. Operator, we're all set.

Speaker #2: Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. Oh, and now I'd like to turn it back to Marc Holliday for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back to Marc Holliday for closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Thank you, everyone. We kind of ran a little longer than usual, so thank you for all the questions. For those still on, I look forward to speaking in three months' time.

Marc Holliday: Thank you, everyone. We kind of ran a little longer than usual, so thank you for all the questions for those still on, and look forward to speaking in three months' time.

Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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