Q1 2026 ConocoPhillips Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Welcome to the first quarter 2026 ConocoPhillips earnings conference call. My name is Liz, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Operator: Welcome to the Q1 2026 ConocoPhillips Earnings Conference Call. My name is Liz, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. During the question-and-answer session, if you have a question, please press star one one on your touchtone phone. I will now turn the call over to Guy Baber, Vice President, Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Operator: Welcome to the Q1 2026 ConocoPhillips Earnings Conference Call. My name is Liz, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. During the question-and-answer session, if you have a question, please press star one one on your touchtone phone. I will now turn the call over to Guy Baber, Vice President, Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Speaker #1: Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. During the question-and-answer session, if you have a question, please press star, 1, 1 on your touch-tone phone.
Speaker #1: I will now turn the call over to Guy Baber, Vice President, Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Liz, and welcome, everyone, to our first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. On the call today are several members of the CONACOPHILLIPS leadership team, including Ryan Lance, Chairman, and CEO; Andy O'Brien, Chief Financial Officer; and Executive Vice President of Strategy and Commercial; Nick Olds, Executive Vice President of Lower 48 and Global HSC; and Kirk Johnson, Executive Vice President of Global Operations and Technical Functions.
Guy Baber: Thank you, Liz, welcome everyone to our Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are several members of the ConocoPhillips leadership team, including Ryan Lance, Chairman and CEO, Andy O'Brien, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President of Strategy and Commercial, Nick Olds, Executive Vice President of Lower 48 and Global HSE, and Kirk Johnson, Executive Vice President of Global Operations and Technical Functions. Ryan and Andy will kick off the call with opening remarks, after which the team will be available for your questions. For the Q&A, we will be taking 1 question per caller. A few quick reminders. First, along with today's release, we published supplemental financial materials and a slide presentation, which you can find on the investor relations website. Second, during this call, we will be making forward-looking statements based on current expectations.
Guy Baber: Thank you, Liz, welcome everyone to our Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are several members of the ConocoPhillips leadership team, including Ryan Lance, Chairman and CEO, Andy O'Brien, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President of Strategy and Commercial, Nick Olds, Executive Vice President of Lower 48 and Global HSE, and Kirk Johnson, Executive Vice President of Global Operations and Technical Functions. Ryan and Andy will kick off the call with opening remarks, after which the team will be available for your questions. For the Q&A, we will be taking 1 question per caller. A few quick reminders. First, along with today's release, we published supplemental financial materials and a slide presentation, which you can find on the investor relations website. Second, during this call, we will be making forward-looking statements based on current expectations.
Speaker #2: Ryan and Andy will kick off the call with opening remarks, after which the team will be available for your questions. For the Q&A, we will be taking one question per caller.
Speaker #2: A few quick reminders: First, along with today's release, we publish supplemental financial materials and a slide presentation, which you can find on the Investor Relations website.
Speaker #2: Second, during this call, we will be making forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Actual results may differ due to factors noted in today's release and in our periodic SEC filings.
Guy Baber: Actual results may differ due to factors noted in today's release and in our periodic SEC filings. We will make reference to some non-GAAP financial measures today. Reconciliations to the nearest corresponding GAAP measure can be found in today's release and on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ryan.
Guy Baber: Actual results may differ due to factors noted in today's release and in our periodic SEC filings. We will make reference to some non-GAAP financial measures today. Reconciliations to the nearest corresponding GAAP measure can be found in today's release and on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ryan.
Speaker #2: We will make reference to some non-GAAP financial measures today, reconciliations to the nearest corresponding GAAP measure can be found in today's release, and on our website.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call over to Ryan.
Ryan Lance: Thanks, Guy, and thank you to everyone for joining our Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. As we begin, I want to start by acknowledging the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. Our thoughts are first and foremost with our employees, our partners, and the broader communities directly affected by these events. The supply curtailment and ensuing macro volatility have not only impacted energy markets but are also being felt across the global economy. Periods of volatility in our industry are inevitable, but this conflict reinforces the importance of both US and global energy security. We certainly hope for a swift and diplomatic solution that resolves the conflict, protects US interests, opens commerce, and provides stability in the region. Now, turning to the Q1 results, we delivered another strong quarter of strong financial and operational performance.
Speaker #3: thanks, Guy, and thank you to everyone for joining our first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. As we begin, I want to start by acknowledging the ongoing conflict in the Middle East.
Ryan Lance: Thanks, Guy, and thank you to everyone for joining our Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. As we begin, I want to start by acknowledging the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. Our thoughts are first and foremost with our employees, our partners, and the broader communities directly affected by these events. The supply curtailment and ensuing macro volatility have not only impacted energy markets but are also being felt across the global economy. Periods of volatility in our industry are inevitable, but this conflict reinforces the importance of both US and global energy security. We certainly hope for a swift and diplomatic solution that resolves the conflict, protects US interests, opens commerce, and provides stability in the region. Now, turning to the Q1 results, we delivered another strong quarter of strong financial and operational performance.
Speaker #3: Our thoughts are, first and foremost, with our employees, our partners, and the broader communities directly affected by these events. The supply curtailment and ensuing macro volatility have not only impacted energy markets but are also being felt across the global economy.
Speaker #3: Periods of volatility in our industry are inevitable. But this conflict reinforces the importance of both U.S. and global energy security. We certainly hope for a swift and diplomatic solution that resolves the conflict, protects U.S.
Speaker #3: Interests, opens commerce, and provides stability in the region. Now, turning to the first quarter results, we delivered another strong quarter of strong financial and operational performance.
Speaker #3: We generated $2.4 billion of free cash flow and returned $2 billion of capital to our shareholders. In the Lower 48, where we have the deepest and highest-quality inventory of any operator, we continue to improve our peer-leading capital efficiency, meaningfully increasing the number of three-mile-plus laterals in our program.
Ryan Lance: We generated $2.4 billion in free cash flow and returned $2 billion of capital to our shareholders. In the Lower 48, where we have the deepest and highest quality inventory of any operator, we continue to improve our peer-leading capital efficiency, meaningfully increasing the number of 3-mile plus laterals in our program. In Alaska, we're winding down another successful winter construction season with the Willow project now 50% complete. Our teams have completed the project's gravel scope, an important milestone, and mobilization for summer work is underway. We also recently completed our 4-well exploration program in Alaska, the first in a multi-year program to leverage existing infrastructure to unlock additional low cost of supply resource, consistent with our long-term track record.
Ryan Lance: We generated $2.4 billion in free cash flow and returned $2 billion of capital to our shareholders. In the Lower 48, where we have the deepest and highest quality inventory of any operator, we continue to improve our peer-leading capital efficiency, meaningfully increasing the number of 3mi+ laterals in our program. In Alaska, we're winding down another successful winter construction season with the Willow project now 50% complete. Our teams have completed the project's gravel scope, an important milestone, and mobilization for summer work is underway. We also recently completed our four-well exploration program in Alaska, the first in a multi-year program to leverage existing infrastructure to unlock additional low cost of supply resource, consistent with our long-term track record.
Speaker #3: In Alaska, we're winding down another successful winter construction season, with the Willow Project now 50% complete. Our teams have completed the project's gravel scope, an important milestone, and mobilization for summer work is underway.
Speaker #3: We also recently completed our four-wheel exploration program in Alaska, the first in a multi-year program to leverage existing infrastructure to unlock additional low-cost supply resource.
Speaker #3: Consistent with our long-term track record. It's still early days, but we are excited about the opportunity and the results, and more low-cost supply resources coming to the greater Willow area.
Ryan Lance: It's still early days, but we are excited about the opportunity and the results and more low cost of supply resources coming to the greater Willow area. As the broader industry increasingly recognizes Alaska's unique resource potential, we believe our long-standing position, legacy infrastructure investments, and technical expertise provide us with a meaningful competitive advantage. Turning to LNG, we recently executed a third-party tolling agreement in Equatorial Guinea, extending the life of the LNG facility well into the next decade. This is a strategically located asset in a gas-rich part of the world, surrounded by discovered resource which supports its long-term potential. Additionally, the Port Arthur LNG project continues to progress very well with first LNG expected next year. Turning to the outlook, while ongoing events have significantly tightened crude oil and LNG markets, the macro environment remains volatile and pretty impossible to predict.
Ryan Lance: It's still early days, but we are excited about the opportunity and the results and more low cost of supply resources coming to the greater Willow area. As the broader industry increasingly recognizes Alaska's unique resource potential, we believe our long-standing position, legacy infrastructure investments, and technical expertise provide us with a meaningful competitive advantage. Turning to LNG, we recently executed a third-party tolling agreement in Equatorial Guinea, extending the life of the LNG facility well into the next decade. This is a strategically located asset in a gas-rich part of the world, surrounded by discovered resource which supports its long-term potential. Additionally, the Port Arthur LNG project continues to progress very well with first LNG expected next year. Turning to the outlook, while ongoing events have significantly tightened crude oil and LNG markets, the macro environment remains volatile and pretty impossible to predict.
Speaker #3: As the broader industry increasingly recognizes Alaska's unique resource potential, we believe our long-standing position, legacy infrastructure investments, and technical expertise provide us with a meaningful competitive advantage.
Speaker #3: Turning to LNG, we recently executed a third-party tolling agreement in Equatorial Guinea, extending the life of the LNG facility well into the next decade.
Speaker #3: This is a strategically located asset in a gas-rich part of the world, surrounded by discovered resource, which supports its long-term potential. Additionally, the Port Arthur LNG project continues to progress very well, with first LNG expected next year.
Speaker #3: Turning to the outlook, while ongoing events have significantly tightened crude oil and LNG markets, the macro environment remains volatile and pretty impossible to predict.
Speaker #3: Amid such uncertainty, it's critical our priorities remain steadfast. They are clear: consistent, and they are durable. They have served us well for the last decade, and will continue to guide us into the future.
Ryan Lance: Amid such uncertainty, it's critical our priorities remain steadfast. They are clear, consistent, and they are durable. They have served us well for the last decade and will continue to guide us into the future. We will continue delivering base dividend growth competitive with the top quartile of the S&P 500. We will maintain and protect our investment-grade balance sheet. Recall last year, we were one of the only companies that delivered on our shareholder return objectives and strengthened the balance sheet. We'll continue returning significant CFO to shareholders right off the top. We've averaged about 45% over the past decade through the cycles, and after meeting all these priorities, we'll evaluate disciplined reinvestment for growth. In terms of how these priorities are translating to our 2026 plan, our expected CFO generation is up materially given our unhedged oil and LNG torque.
Ryan Lance: Amid such uncertainty, it's critical our priorities remain steadfast. They are clear, consistent, and they are durable. They have served us well for the last decade and will continue to guide us into the future. We will continue delivering base dividend growth competitive with the top quartile of the S&P 500. We will maintain and protect our investment-grade balance sheet. Recall last year, we were one of the only companies that delivered on our shareholder return objectives and strengthened the balance sheet. We'll continue returning significant CFO to shareholders right off the top. We've averaged about 45% over the past decade through the cycles, and after meeting all these priorities, we'll evaluate disciplined reinvestment for growth. In terms of how these priorities are translating to our 2026 plan, our expected CFO generation is up materially given our unhedged oil and LNG torque.
Speaker #3: We will continue delivering base dividend growth competitive with a top quartile of the S&P 500. We will maintain and protect our investment-grade balance sheet.
Speaker #3: Recall last year, we were one of the only companies that delivered on our shareholder return objectives and strengthened the balance sheet. We'll continue returning significant CFO to shareholders, right off the top.
Speaker #3: We've averaged about 45% over the past decade through the cycles, and after meeting all these priorities, we'll evaluate disciplined reinvestment for growth. In terms of how these priorities are translating to our 2026 plan, our expected CFO generation is up materially given our unhedged oil and LNG torque.
Speaker #3: Shareholders will directly share in this upside with our 45% of CFO return of capital objective. We have also added a modest amount of Permian activity over the second half of the year, to maintain our operational efficiency into 2027.
Ryan Lance: Shareholders will directly share in this upside with our 45% of CFO return of capital objective. We have also added a modest amount of Permian activity over the H2 of the year to maintain our operational efficiency into 2027. Long term, ConocoPhillips continues to offer a compelling value proposition that is differentiated in the market. We believe we have the highest quality asset base in our peer space. As we have said before, we are resource-rich in a world that is looking increasingly resource scarce. This is a distinguishing competitive advantage. We have the deepest and most capital-efficient Lower Forty-Eight inventory in the sector, and outside the Lower Forty-Eight, we have an abundance of diversified, low cost of supply legacy assets, and we are uniquely investing in our portfolio to drive peer-leading free cash flow growth.
Ryan Lance: Shareholders will directly share in this upside with our 45% of CFO return of capital objective. We have also added a modest amount of Permian activity over the H2 of the year to maintain our operational efficiency into 2027. Long term, ConocoPhillips continues to offer a compelling value proposition that is differentiated in the market. We believe we have the highest quality asset base in our peer space. As we have said before, we are resource-rich in a world that is looking increasingly resource scarce. This is a distinguishing competitive advantage. We have the deepest and most capital-efficient Lower Forty-Eight inventory in the sector, and outside the Lower Forty-Eight, we have an abundance of diversified, low cost of supply legacy assets, and we are uniquely investing in our portfolio to drive peer-leading free cash flow growth.
Speaker #3: Long-term, CONACOPHILLIPS continues to offer a compelling value proposition that is differentiated in the market. We believe we have the highest quality asset base in our peer space.
Speaker #3: As we have said before, we are resource-rich in a world that is looking increasingly resource-scarce. This is a distinguishing, competitive advantage. We have the deepest and most capital-efficient Lower 48 inventory in the sector, and outside the Lower 48, we have an abundance of diversified, low-cost supply legacy assets.
Speaker #3: And we are uniquely investing in our portfolio to drive peer-leading, free cash flow growth. We're on track to deliver our previously announced $7 billion free cash flow inflection by 2029.
Ryan Lance: We're on track to deliver our previously announced $7 billion free cash flow inflection by 2029, driven by our cost reduction efforts, LNG projects, and Willow. With that, let me turn the call over to Andy to cover our Q1 performance and updated outlook in more detail.
Ryan Lance: We're on track to deliver our previously announced $7 billion free cash flow inflection by 2029, driven by our cost reduction efforts, LNG projects, and Willow. With that, let me turn the call over to Andy to cover our Q1 performance and updated outlook in more detail.
Speaker #3: Driven by our cost reduction efforts, LNG projects, and Willow. So with that, let me turn the call over to Andy to cover our first quarter performance and updated outlook in more detail.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Ryan. Starting with our first quarter performance, we produced 2,309 MBOED (thousand barrels of oil equivalent per day). This includes the impacts of the Middle East conflict on Qatar volumes and higher royalty rates at CERMONT from higher oil prices.
Andy O'Brien: Thanks, Ryan. Starting with our Q1 performance, we produced 2,309,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day. This includes the impacts of the Middle East conflict on Qatar volumes and higher royalty rates at Surmont from higher oil prices. These impacts were partially offset by strong performance across our Lower 48 and international portfolio. In the Lower 48, we produced 1,453,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day, representing 4% year-over-year growth on an underlying basis. We generated $1.89 per share in adjusted earnings and $5.4 billion of CFO. Capital expenditures were $2.9 billion. We returned $2 billion to our shareholders during the Q1, $1 billion in ordinary dividends and $1 billion of share repurchases.
Andy O'Brien: Thanks, Ryan. Starting with our Q1 performance, we produced 2,309,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day. This includes the impacts of the Middle East conflict on Qatar volumes and higher royalty rates at Surmont from higher oil prices. These impacts were partially offset by strong performance across our Lower 48 and international portfolio. In the Lower 48, we produced 1,453,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day, representing 4% year-over-year growth on an underlying basis. We generated $1.89 per share in adjusted earnings and $5.4 billion of CFO. Capital expenditures were $2.9 billion. We returned $2 billion to our shareholders during the Q1, $1 billion in ordinary dividends and $1 billion of share repurchases.
Speaker #1: These impacts were partially offset by strong performance across our Lower 48 and international portfolio. In the Lower 48, we produced $1,453,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day, representing 4% year-over-year growth on an underlying basis.
Speaker #1: We generated $1.89 per share in adjusted earnings, and $5.4 billion of CFO. Capital expenditures were $2.9 billion. We returned $2 billion to our shareholders during the first quarter—$1 billion in ordinary dividends and $1 billion of share repurchases.
Speaker #1: We ended the quarter with cash and short-term investments of $6.7 billion as well as $1.2 billion in liquid long-term investments. Turning to our outlook, we are updating our guidance to account for the impacts of recent macro events and the uncertainty surrounding the Middle East conflict.
Andy O'Brien: We ended the quarter with cash and short-term investments of $6.7 billion as well as $1.2 billion in liquid long-term investments. Turning to our outlook, we are updating our guidance to account for the impacts of recent macro events and the uncertainty surrounding the Middle East conflict. To be clear, this is not a call on when we think the conflict will resolve. We're simply trying to provide a clear and transparent framework due to model and assess the underlying performance of the company. For production, the midpoint of our annual guidance is updated to 2,310,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day.
Andy O'Brien: We ended the quarter with cash and short-term investments of $6.7 billion as well as $1.2 billion in liquid long-term investments. Turning to our outlook, we are updating our guidance to account for the impacts of recent macro events and the uncertainty surrounding the Middle East conflict. To be clear, this is not a call on when we think the conflict will resolve. We're simply trying to provide a clear and transparent framework due to model and assess the underlying performance of the company. For production, the midpoint of our annual guidance is updated to 2,310,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day.
Speaker #1: To be clear, this is not a call on when we think the conflict will resolve. We're simply trying to provide a clear and transparent framework due to model and assess the underlying performance of the company.
Speaker #1: For production, the midpoint of our annual guidance is updated to $2,310,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day. This reflects a 20,000-barrel of oil equivalent per day annual impact due to Qatar being excluded from second quarter production guidance.
Andy O'Brien: This reflects a 20,000 barrel of oil equivalent per day annual impact due to Qatar being excluded from Q2 production guidance and a 15,000 barrel of oil equivalent per day annual royalty rate adjustment at Surmont due to higher prices. We've made no other adjustments to our annual production guidance. The midpoint of our Q2 production guidance is 2,200,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day, which reflects the full exclusion of Qatar production from guidance for the quarter, the Surmont royalty rate adjustment, and planned Q2 maintenance. Moving to operating costs, full year guidance of $10.2 billion is unchanged, reflecting a $400 million reduction from 2025 due to the benefits of our cost reduction and margin enhancement program.
Andy O'Brien: This reflects a 20,000 barrel of oil equivalent per day annual impact due to Qatar being excluded from Q2 production guidance and a 15,000 barrel of oil equivalent per day annual royalty rate adjustment at Surmont due to higher prices. We've made no other adjustments to our annual production guidance. The midpoint of our Q2 production guidance is 2,200,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day, which reflects the full exclusion of Qatar production from guidance for the quarter, the Surmont royalty rate adjustment, and planned Q2 maintenance. Moving to operating costs, full year guidance of $10.2 billion is unchanged, reflecting a $400 million reduction from 2025 due to the benefits of our cost reduction and margin enhancement program.
Speaker #1: And a 15,000-barrel of oil equivalent per day annual royalty rate adjustment at CERMONT due to higher prices. We've made no other adjustments to our annual production guidance.
Speaker #1: The midpoint of our second quarter production guidance is 2,200,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day, which reflects the full exclusion of Qatar production from guidance for the quarter, the CERMONT royalty rate adjustment, and planned second-quarter maintenance.
Speaker #1: Moving to operating costs, full-year guidance of $10.2 billion is unchanged, reflecting a $400 million reduction from 2025 due to the benefits of our cost reduction and margin enhancement program.
Speaker #1: We made strong progress in the first quarter, and we remain confident in realizing the full $1 billion run rate by year-end. For capital spending, we're updating our guidance to a range of $12 to $12.5 billion versus our prior guidance of about $12 billion.
Andy O'Brien: We made strong progress in Q1, and we remain confident in realizing the full $1 billion run rate by year-end. For capital spending, we are updating our guidance to a range of $12 to 12.5 billion versus our prior guidance of about $12 billion, representing a 2% increase at the midpoint. This increase is due to slightly more Permian activity over H2 of the year. We are adding a rig to keep pace with the completion efficiencies, and we expect higher levels of non-operated spend. These modest activity additions will maintain our operational continuity into 2027. Additionally, we are incorporating a guidance range to capture the uncertainty around the macro environment as well as the Middle East conflict, specifically as it pertains to timing for NFE and NFS spending. To wrap up, we delivered strong Q1 results.
Andy O'Brien: We made strong progress in Q1, and we remain confident in realizing the full $1 billion run rate by year-end. For capital spending, we are updating our guidance to a range of $12 to 12.5 billion versus our prior guidance of about $12 billion, representing a 2% increase at the midpoint. This increase is due to slightly more Permian activity over H2 of the year. We are adding a rig to keep pace with the completion efficiencies, and we expect higher levels of non-operated spend. These modest activity additions will maintain our operational continuity into 2027. Additionally, we are incorporating a guidance range to capture the uncertainty around the macro environment as well as the Middle East conflict, specifically as it pertains to timing for NFE and NFS spending. To wrap up, we delivered strong Q1 results.
Speaker #1: Representing a 2% increase at the midpoint. This increase is due to slightly more Permian activity over the second half of the year; we're adding a rig to keep pace with the completion efficiencies, and we expect higher levels of non-operated spend.
Speaker #1: These modest activity additions will maintain our operational continuity into 2027. Additionally, we're incorporating a guidance range to capture the uncertainty around the macro environment as well as the Middle East conflict, specifically as it pertains to the timing for NFE and NFF spending.
Speaker #1: To wrap up, we delivered strong first quarter results, we executed well financially, and operationally, we continue to advance our strategy, and amid a volatile macro environment, we remain committed to clear, consistent, and durable priorities that have served us well for the last decade.
Andy O'Brien: We executed well financially and operationally. We continue to advance our strategy. Amid a volatile macro environment, we remain committed to clear, consistent, and durable priorities that have served us well for the last decade. As Ryan mentioned, our expected CFO is up materially from the beginning of the year. We remain unhedged on oil and LNG to ensure we capture the price upside with 40% of our crude production linked to premium markets such as ANS and Dated Brent. Shareholders are directly participating in this upside as we remain committed to returning 45% of our CFO consistent with our long-term track record. Looking ahead, we remain focused on exiting our plan and enhancing our differentiated investment thesis.
Andy O'Brien: We executed well financially and operationally. We continue to advance our strategy. Amid a volatile macro environment, we remain committed to clear, consistent, and durable priorities that have served us well for the last decade. As Ryan mentioned, our expected CFO is up materially from the beginning of the year. We remain unhedged on oil and LNG to ensure we capture the price upside with 40% of our crude production linked to premium markets such as ANS and Dated Brent. Shareholders are directly participating in this upside as we remain committed to returning 45% of our CFO consistent with our long-term track record. Looking ahead, we remain focused on exiting our plan and enhancing our differentiated investment thesis.
Speaker #1: As Ryan mentioned, our expected CFO is up materially from the beginning of the year. We remain unhedged on oil and LNG to ensure we capture the price upside, with 40% of our crude production linked to premium markets such as ANS and dated Brent.
Speaker #1: And shareholders are directly participating in this upside. As we remain committed to returning 45% of our CFO consistent with our long-term track record. Looking ahead, we remain focused on exiting our plan and enhancing our differentiated investment thesis.
Speaker #1: Unmatched portfolio quality, including leading Lower 48 inventory depth, attractive long-cycle investment, strong return on and off capital, and driving sector-leading free cash flow growth through the end of the decade.
Andy O'Brien: Unmatched portfolio quality, including leading Lower 48 inventory debt, attractive long cycle investment, strong return on and all capital, and driving sector-leading free cash flow growth through the end of the decade. That concludes our prepared remarks. I'll now turn it over to the operator to start the Q&A.
Andy O'Brien: Unmatched portfolio quality, including leading Lower 48 inventory debt, attractive long cycle investment, strong return on and all capital, and driving sector-leading free cash flow growth through the end of the decade. That concludes our prepared remarks. I'll now turn it over to the operator to start the Q&A.
Speaker #1: That concludes our prepared remarks. I'll now turn it over to the operator to start the Q&A.
Speaker #2: Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. In the interest of time, we ask that you limit yourself to one question. If you have a question, please press star, one, one on your touch-tone phone.
Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. In the interest of time, we ask that you limit yourself to 1 question. If you have a question, please press star one one on your touch-tone phone. If you wish to be removed from the queue, please press star one one again. If you're using a speakerphone, you may need to pick up the handset first before pressing the numbers. Once again, if you have a question, please press star one one on your touch-tone phone. Our first question comes from Scott Hanold from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. In the interest of time, we ask that you limit yourself to 1 question. If you have a question, please press star one one on your touch-tone phone. If you wish to be removed from the queue, please press star one one again. If you're using a speakerphone, you may need to pick up the handset first before pressing the numbers. Once again, if you have a question, please press star one one on your touch-tone phone. Our first question comes from Scott Hanold from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
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Speaker #2: Once again, if you have a question, please press star, one, one on your touch-tone phone. Our first question comes from Scott Hanold from RBC Capital Markets.
Speaker #2: Your line is now open.
Speaker #3: Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you. Hey, a lot happening, obviously, out on the macro front. And I know you all do a lot of work on the oil macro in addition to, obviously, having feelers out there.
Scott Hanold: Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you. Hey, a lot happening obviously out on the macro front. I know you all do a lot of work on the oil macro in addition to, you know, obviously having feelers out there. Can you give us a sense of, you know, your view of what's happened in the market? You know, if you've got any view of, you know, physical versus, you know, the financial kind of position of oil and you know, how you expect like operators to act and react. It sounds like you guys are gonna maintain operational efficiency, but it'd be good to see if you've got a view on what you're seeing and hearing from others.
Scott Hanold: Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you. Hey, a lot happening obviously out on the macro front. I know you all do a lot of work on the oil macro in addition to, you know, obviously having feelers out there. Can you give us a sense of, you know, your view of what's happened in the market? You know, if you've got any view of, you know, physical versus, you know, the financial kind of position of oil and you know, how you expect like operators to act and react. It sounds like you guys are gonna maintain operational efficiency, but it'd be good to see if you've got a view on what you're seeing and hearing from others.
Speaker #3: Can you give us a sense of your view of what's happened in the market? If you've got any view of physical versus the financial kind of position of oil, and how you expect operators to act and react?
Speaker #3: It sounds like you guys are going to maintain operational efficiency, but it would be good to see if you’ve got a view on what you’re seeing and hearing from others.
Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks, Scott. Maybe I'll let Andy talk a little bit about some of the numbers that we see out there, and then maybe I'll come back and address some of your broader set questions after that.
Ryan Lance: Yeah. Thanks, Scott. Maybe I'll let Andy talk a little bit about some of the numbers that we see out there, then maybe I can come back and address some of your broader set questions after that.
Ryan Lance: Yeah. Thanks, Scott. Maybe I'll let Andy talk a little bit about some of the numbers that we see out there, then maybe I can come back and address some of your broader set questions after that.
Andy O'Brien: Thanks, Ryan, and morning, Scott. Yeah, I'll start with, you know, I think you said this for me. There's certainly a lot of moving pieces out there right now. I'll summarize sort of our view of the world. I'm not sure it's too different to others, but it's, I think it's good to summarize it. You know, for about 10 million barrels a day of production offline. You know, that even factors in the redirected volumes in, you know, in countries like Saudi Arabia. You know, we have seen inventory and SPR releases that have, you know, partially backfilled some of that lost supply. The ongoing SPR releases that have been announced, you know, they'll certainly help, you know, through the May-July timeframe.
Andy O'Brien: Thanks, Ryan, and morning, Scott. Yeah, I'll start with, you know, I think you said this for me. There's certainly a lot of moving pieces out there right now. I'll summarize sort of our view of the world. I'm not sure it's too different to others, but it's, I think it's good to summarize it. You know, for about 10 million barrels a day of production offline. You know, that even factors in the redirected volumes in, you know, in countries like Saudi Arabia. You know, we have seen inventory and SPR releases that have, you know, partially backfilled some of that lost supply. The ongoing SPR releases that have been announced, you know, they'll certainly help, you know, through the May-July timeframe.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Ryan. And morning, Scott. Yeah, I’ll start with—I think you said this for me—there’s certainly a lot of moving pieces out there right now.
Speaker #1: And I'll summarize, sort of, our view of the world. I'm not sure it's too different from others, but I think it's good to summarize it.
Speaker #1: For about two months now, we've had about 10 million barrels a day of production offline. That even factors in the redirected volumes in countries like Saudi Arabia.
Speaker #1: We have seen inventory and SPR releases that have partially backfilled some of that lost supply. And the ongoing SPR releases that have been announced—they'll certainly help through the May–July timeframe.
Speaker #1: But I do think it's really important for people to understand that the brunt of the supply shortfall is currently being absorbed by refinery-run cuts and demand curtailments.
Andy O'Brien: I do think it's really important for people to understand that the brunt of the supply shortfall is currently being absorbed by refinery run cuts and demand curtailments. If you include the Persian Gulf refineries that, you know, have been damaged, the total global refinery run cuts right now probably amount to around 8 million barrels a day. As we look forward from here, we think the biggest challenge we're about to face is that the markets sort of had a bit of a grace period initially when the tankers that left the Persian Gulf in late February were still on the water. All of those have reached their destination. You know, the impacts of the lost supply is gonna start to become more apparent. You know, we could possibly see from here now inventory draws really start to accelerate.
Andy O'Brien: I do think it's really important for people to understand that the brunt of the supply shortfall is currently being absorbed by refinery run cuts and demand curtailments. If you include the Persian Gulf refineries that, you know, have been damaged, the total global refinery run cuts right now probably amount to around 8 million barrels a day. As we look forward from here, we think the biggest challenge we're about to face is that the markets sort of had a bit of a grace period initially when the tankers that left the Persian Gulf in late February were still on the water. All of those have reached their destination. You know, the impacts of the lost supply is gonna start to become more apparent. You know, we could possibly see from here now inventory draws really start to accelerate.
Speaker #1: Now, if you include the Persian Gulf refineries that have been damaged, the total global refinery run cuts right now probably amount to around 8 million barrels a day.
Speaker #1: Now, as we look forward from here, we think the biggest challenge we're about to face is that the markets sort of had a bit of a grace period initially, when the tankers that left the Persian Gulf in late February were still on the water.
Speaker #1: Now, all of those have reached their destination. The impacts of the lost supply are going to start to become more apparent. We could possibly see from here now inventory draws really start to accelerate.
Speaker #1: You've already seen that governments in over a dozen countries are implementing policies to ration or otherwise reduce demand in advance of physical shortages. So, given those factors I've just described, we are downgrading our view of global oil demand to be sort of flat year over year, with probably a bit more risk to the downside if the conflict goes on.
Andy O'Brien: You've already seen that governments in over 12 countries are implementing policies to ration or otherwise reduce demand in advance of, you know, physical shortages. You know, given those factors, you know, I've just described, you know, we are downgrading our view of global oil demand to be sort of flat year over year, with probably a bit more risk to the downside if the conflict goes on. Probably one final point I'd make before sort of passing it off to Ryan is, you know, despite efforts that are ongoing to manage demand, you know, we are gonna start to see some import-dependent countries, you know, potentially start to face critical shortages as we get into the June-July timeframe. I'll probably stop there and let Ryan sort of add a bit more to that.
Andy O'Brien: You've already seen that governments in over 12 countries are implementing policies to ration or otherwise reduce demand in advance of, you know, physical shortages. You know, given those factors, you know, I've just described, you know, we are downgrading our view of global oil demand to be sort of flat year over year, with probably a bit more risk to the downside if the conflict goes on. Probably one final point I'd make before sort of passing it off to Ryan is, you know, despite efforts that are ongoing to manage demand, you know, we are gonna start to see some import-dependent countries, you know, potentially start to face critical shortages as we get into the June-July timeframe. I'll probably stop there and let Ryan sort of add a bit more to that.
Speaker #1: And probably one final point I'd make before sort of passing it off to Ryan is, despite efforts that are ongoing to manage demand, we are going to start to see some import-dependent countries potentially start to face critical shortages as we get into the June–July timeframe.
Speaker #1: So, I'll probably stop there, and I'll let Ryan sort of add a bit more to that.
Speaker #4: Yeah, maybe, Scott. How are people acting? I think people are watching pretty closely to see what happens. Maybe a little bit of short-cycle investments, and I'm sure that'll come up in our call with the capital. Or just trying to maintain the efficiency gains that we've got in the Lower 48.
Ryan Lance: Yeah. Maybe, Scott, how are people acting? You know, I think people are watching pretty closely to see what happens. Maybe a little bit of short cycle, investments. I'm sure that'll come up in our call with the capital. We're just trying to maintain the efficiency gains that we've got in the Lower 48, and we won't be drilled out of some of our OBO activity. We're trying to look longer term as well as Andy said, assess the supply and the demand fundamentals. I think at a minimum, we think the floor probably is gonna have to raise up a little bit, at least relative to where we were before the conflict started.
Ryan Lance: Yeah. Maybe, Scott, how are people acting? You know, I think people are watching pretty closely to see what happens. Maybe a little bit of short cycle, investments. I'm sure that'll come up in our call with the capital. We're just trying to maintain the efficiency gains that we've got in the Lower 48, and we won't be drilled out of some of our OBO activity. We're trying to look longer term as well as Andy said, assess the supply and the demand fundamentals. I think at a minimum, we think the floor probably is gonna have to raise up a little bit, at least relative to where we were before the conflict started.
Speaker #4: And we won't be drilled out of some of our opioid activity, but we're trying to look longer term as well. As Andy said, assess the supply and the demand fundamentals.
Speaker #4: I think at a minimum, we think the floor probably is going to have to raise up a little bit, at least relative to where we were before the conflict started. And recall, we had a mid-cycle TI price of about $65.
Ryan Lance: Recall we had a mid-cycle WTI price of about $65, and that's, we believe that's probably gonna come up with a floor. We're trying to assess right now, given the demand dynamics and the supply dynamics, what long-term effect that's gonna have on what we would call a mid-cycle equilibrium price, and for how long that might persist. Recall we were pretty constructive over the last few years before this got started with some uncertainty around how the physical and paper markets were acting a little bit, and this has just accelerated a lot of that. Certainly think the floor probably has to come up to account for the changes that have occurred over the last couple of months.
Ryan Lance: Recall we had a mid-cycle WTI price of about $65, and that's, we believe that's probably gonna come up with a floor. We're trying to assess right now, given the demand dynamics and the supply dynamics, what long-term effect that's gonna have on what we would call a mid-cycle equilibrium price, and for how long that might persist. Recall we were pretty constructive over the last few years before this got started with some uncertainty around how the physical and paper markets were acting a little bit, and this has just accelerated a lot of that. Certainly think the floor probably has to come up to account for the changes that have occurred over the last couple of months.
Speaker #4: And that's we believe that's probably going to come up with a floor, but we're trying to assess right now given the demand dynamics and the supply dynamics, what long-term effect that's going to have on what we would call a mid-cycle equilibrium price and for how long that might persist.
Speaker #4: And recall we were pretty constructive over the last few years before this got started with some uncertainty around how the physical and paper markets were acting a little bit.
Speaker #4: And this has just accelerated a lot of that. But certainly, I think the floor probably has to come up to account for the changes that have occurred over the last couple of months.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Neil Mehta from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Neil Mehta from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Neil Mehta from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
Speaker #5: Yeah, Ryan, Andy, great comments there, and definitely our thoughts are with your people in the region. I want to pivot over to Alaska. We went through winter construction season here, and so I'd love the mark-to-market on how those plans progressed, where do you stand in terms of Willow construction, and what are the big milestones as we continue to de-risk this project and get to that free cash flow inflection?
Neil Mehta: Yeah. Ryan, Andy, great comments there, and definitely our thoughts are with your people in the region. I want to pivot over to Alaska. We went through winter construction season here, and so just love a mark to market on how those plans progressed. Where do you stand in terms of Willow construction, and what are the big milestones as we continue to de-risk this project and get to that free cash flow inflection?
Neil Mehta: Yeah. Ryan, Andy, great comments there, and definitely our thoughts are with your people in the region. I want to pivot over to Alaska. We went through winter construction season here, and so just love a mark to market on how those plans progressed. Where do you stand in terms of Willow construction, and what are the big milestones as we continue to de-risk this project and get to that free cash flow inflection?
Speaker #4: Yeah, good morning, Neil. Thanks for the question. We've had a really strong showing here just in the last six months in willow. So I'll probably address maybe a couple of things.
Kirk Johnson: Good morning, Neil. Thanks for the question. We've had a really strong showing here just in the last 6 months in Willow. I'll probably address maybe a couple things. I'll touch on Willow directly, your question, and then very related to that, given it is the winter season, we've also had a really strong showing in exploration as well. I'll take you through a little bit of how we're seeing these projects progress. Starting with Willow, as mentioned in the opening remarks, we are in fact at 50% complete on the project. Achieving that requires a collection of key milestones that our teams have been able to accomplish and get behind us here.
Kirk Johnson: Good morning, Neil. Thanks for the question. We've had a really strong showing here just in the last six months in Willow. I'll probably address maybe a couple things. I'll touch on Willow directly, your question, and then very related to that, given it is the winter season, we've also had a really strong showing in exploration as well. I'll take you through a little bit of how we're seeing these projects progress. Starting with Willow, as mentioned in the opening remarks, we are in fact at 50% complete on the project. Achieving that requires a collection of key milestones that our teams have been able to accomplish and get behind us here.
Speaker #4: I'll touch on Willow directly, your question, and then, very related to that—given it is the winter season—we've also had a really strong showing in exploration as well.
Speaker #4: So I'll take you through a little bit of how we're seeing these projects progress, starting with Willow. As mentioned in the opening remarks, we are, in fact, at 50% complete on the project.
Speaker #4: And that achieving that requires a collection of key milestones that our teams have been able to accomplish and get behind us here. And this winter season in Alaska, we accomplished the entirety of our planned work scope, which admittedly was a little bit of a challenge.
Kirk Johnson: This week's winter season in Alaska, we accomplished the entirety of our planned work scope, which admittedly was a little bit of a challenge. We had quite a few weather days, not dissimilar from our very first winter season. Despite that, again, the teams were able to accomplish the full winter scope. By that, certainly probably most important to us, as part of critical path was the civil work. We were able to get all of the bridges down and the entirety of the gravel scope. So think roads, pads, and then even the airstrip.
Kirk Johnson: This week's winter season in Alaska, we accomplished the entirety of our planned work scope, which admittedly was a little bit of a challenge. We had quite a few weather days, not dissimilar from our very first winter season. Despite that, again, the teams were able to accomplish the full winter scope. By that, certainly probably most important to us, as part of critical path was the civil work. We were able to get all of the bridges down and the entirety of the gravel scope. So think roads, pads, and then even the airstrip.
Speaker #4: We had quite a few weather days, not dissimilar from our very first winter season, and despite that, again, the teams were able to accomplish the full winter scope.
Speaker #4: And by that, certainly probably most important to us as part of critical path was the civil work. And so we were able to get all of the bridges down and the entirety of the gravel scope so think roads, pads, and then even the airstrip.
Speaker #4: And that sets us up then for our ability to execute the summer work and especially important with gravel, it allows you to dry and mature that gravel create the compression necessary on that to continue the structural work that's upcoming then, obviously, in the construction of future facilities and even pipelines.
Kirk Johnson: That sets us up then for our ability to execute the summer work, and especially important with gravel, it allows you to dry and mature that gravel, create the compression necessary on that to continue the structural work that's upcoming then obviously in the construction of future facilities and even pipelines. As it relates to pipelines, important this year for us was the east-west scope. That's important because it allows us to begin to make the connections back into the existing operations. By that I mean Western North Slope or Alpine, with those connections just within the coming week, we'll be bringing fuel gas in, and we'll be firing up our power for Willow.
Kirk Johnson: That sets us up then for our ability to execute the summer work, and especially important with gravel, it allows you to dry and mature that gravel, create the compression necessary on that to continue the structural work that's upcoming then obviously in the construction of future facilities and even pipelines. As it relates to pipelines, important this year for us was the east-west scope. That's important because it allows us to begin to make the connections back into the existing operations. By that I mean Western North Slope or Alpine, with those connections just within the coming week, we'll be bringing fuel gas in, and we'll be firing up our power for Willow.
Speaker #4: And then, as it relates to pipelines, important this year for us was the east-west scope. And that's important because it allows us to begin to make the connections back into the existing operations.
Speaker #4: And by that, I mean western our slope or alpine with those connections just within the coming week. We'll be bringing fuel gas in and we'll be firing up our power for willow.
Speaker #4: And so, again, we've just been really successful in accomplishing the scope here, and we've laid out as we continue to commission the ops center.
Kirk Johnson: Again, we've just been really successful in accomplishing the scope here in Willow that we've laid out as we continue to commission the ops center. Of course, with engineering largely wrapped up and complete here in the Lower 48 on the Gulf Coast, our process modules achieved a similar milestone, which is also being 50%, just slightly better than 50% complete there in fabrication. That's important because certainly not this summer, but next summer, we have plans to sea lift those into Alaska, which becomes the next major milestone for us to get those processing modules up there. Again, all of this in aggregate puts us in just a very strong position for this early oil expectation that we have for 2029, all of that is on track.
Kirk Johnson: Again, we've just been really successful in accomplishing the scope here in Willow that we've laid out as we continue to commission the ops center. Of course, with engineering largely wrapped up and complete here in the Lower 48 on the Gulf Coast, our process modules achieved a similar milestone, which is also being 50%, just slightly better than 50% complete there in fabrication. That's important because certainly not this summer, but next summer, we have plans to sea lift those into Alaska, which becomes the next major milestone for us to get those processing modules up there. Again, all of this in aggregate puts us in just a very strong position for this early oil expectation that we have for 2029, all of that is on track.
Speaker #4: And then, of course, with engineering largely wrapped up and complete here in the Lower 48 on the Gulf Coast, our process modules achieved a similar milestone, which is also being 50%—just slightly better than 50%—complete there in fabrication.
Speaker #4: That's important because certainly not this summer, but next summer we have plans to see lift those into Alaska. Which becomes the next major milestone for us to get those processing modules up there and so again, all of this in aggregate puts us in just a very strong position for this early oil expectation that we have for 2029 and all of that is on track.
Speaker #4: And that's obviously important as it's underpinning this compelling value proposition that we have for the $7 billion free cash flow inflection. But then even thinking well beyond that is exploration.
Kirk Johnson: That's obviously important as it's underpinning this compelling value proposition that we have for the $7 billion free cash flow inflection. Even thinking well beyond that is exploration. As you heard from Ryan, we had a strong showing here too. We speak a lot to the 4 wells that we had planned this year, which were successful for us. This is the largest winter season and exploration that we've had since 2020. With that came the 4 wells, but we also shot seismic, and then we also did quite a bit of gravel exploration and had really high success ratio there on finding gravel for future pads.
Kirk Johnson: That's obviously important as it's underpinning this compelling value proposition that we have for the $7 billion free cash flow inflection. Even thinking well beyond that is exploration. As you heard from Ryan, we had a strong showing here too. We speak a lot to the four wells that we had planned this year, which were successful for us. This is the largest winter season and exploration that we've had since 2020. With that came the 4 wells, but we also shot seismic, and then we also did quite a bit of gravel exploration and had really high success ratio there on finding gravel for future pads.
Speaker #4: And again, also as you heard from Ryan, we had a strong showing here too. We speak a lot to the four wells that we had planned this year, which were successful for us.
Speaker #4: But this is the largest winter season in exploration that we've had since 2020. And with that came the four wells, but we also shot seismic and then we also did quite a bit of gravel exploration and had really high success ratio there on finding gravel for future pads.
Speaker #4: So when we look at that exploration program, again, as you heard from Ryan, really pleased to report. And by that, I mean we found hydrocarbons out there where we were prospecting and drilling.
Kirk Johnson: When we look at that exploration program, again, as you heard from Ryan, really pleased to report, and by that I mean we found hydrocarbons, out there where we were, where we were prospecting and drilling. Naturally then our subsurface teams are pouring over the results, seeking to ensure that we can well characterize what we found. Of course, commerciality comes with typically more than one season. That's why we call these exploration and appraisal wells and seasons. It'll take several, but certainly with what we found, really looking forward to the opportunity to keep Willow full. Again, I think that underpins our objective here, which is we're in this to identify new resource and pad development opportunities, to do just that, which is keep this infrastructure full.
Kirk Johnson: When we look at that exploration program, again, as you heard from Ryan, really pleased to report, and by that I mean we found hydrocarbons, out there where we were, where we were prospecting and drilling. Naturally then our subsurface teams are pouring over the results, seeking to ensure that we can well characterize what we found. Of course, commerciality comes with typically more than one season. That's why we call these exploration and appraisal wells and seasons. It'll take several, but certainly with what we found, really looking forward to the opportunity to keep Willow full. Again, I think that underpins our objective here, which is we're in this to identify new resource and pad development opportunities, to do just that, which is keep this infrastructure full.
Speaker #4: And so, naturally, then our subsurface teams are poring over the results, seeking to ensure that we can well characterize what we found. And, of course, commerciality comes with typically more than one season.
Speaker #4: And that's why we call these exploration and appraisal wells and seasons. It'll take several, but certainly with what we found, really looking forward to the opportunity to keep Willow full.
Speaker #4: Again, and I think that underpins our objective here, which is we're in this to identify new resource and pad development opportunities to do just that, which is keep this infrastructure full.
Speaker #4: And you've seen the track record from us in the past. And with the success that we've been realizing just in the last six months, again, just a really strong showing from our Alaska team.
Kirk Johnson: You've seen the track record from us in the past and, with the success that we've been realizing just in the last 6 months, again, just a really strong showing from our Alaska team.
Kirk Johnson: You've seen the track record from us in the past and, with the success that we've been realizing just in the last six months, again, just a really strong showing from our Alaska team.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Betty Jiang from Barclays. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Betty Jiang from Barclays. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Betty Jiang from Barclays. Your line is now open.
Betty Jiang: Hi, good morning, guys. A lot of buys right now on the short cycle response to higher oil prices, you guys being the first one out of the gate and sort of leaning into activity in the Permian, which clear makes sense for you guys given the deep inventory, but can we just get a bit more color on the decision process from Conoco's perspective to lean into Permian activity now? Alluding to your mid-cycle views earlier, what price would it take to flex activity further? What will be the sensitivity on production outcome in 2027?
Betty Jiang: Hi, good morning, guys. A lot of buys right now on the short cycle response to higher oil prices, you guys being the first one out of the gate and sort of leaning into activity in the Permian, which clear makes sense for you guys given the deep inventory, but can we just get a bit more color on the decision process from Conoco's perspective to lean into Permian activity now? Alluding to your mid-cycle views earlier, what price would it take to flex activity further? What will be the sensitivity on production outcome in 2027?
Speaker #6: Hi, good morning, guys. The a lot of us right now on the shore cycle response to higher oil prices and you guys being the first one out of the gate and sort of leaning into activity in the Permian which clearly makes sense for you guys given the deep inventory but can we just get a bit more color on the decision process from CONACO's perspective to lean into Permian activity now?
Speaker #6: And alluding to your mid-cycle views earlier, what price would it take to flex activity further? And what would be the sensitivity on production outcome in 2027?
Andy O'Brien: Morning, Betty. Andy here. Maybe I'll quickly start this and then Nick can talk a bit more specific about the details of what we're doing in the Permian. You know, I did cover in the prepared remarks, you know, that we, you know, what we've done here is effectively increased the midpoint of the CapEx by about $250 million. I think it is important sort of to, you know, describe why we're doing that. You know, it is, you know, we keep having the operational efficiency that Nick will talk to. It's important basically the way we think about steady state that we keep that going.
Andy O'Brien: Morning, Betty. Andy here. Maybe I'll quickly start this and then Nick can talk a bit more specific about the details of what we're doing in the Permian. You know, I did cover in the prepared remarks, you know, that we, you know, what we've done here is effectively increased the midpoint of the CapEx by about $250 million. I think it is important sort of to, you know, describe why we're doing that. You know, it is, you know, we keep having the operational efficiency that Nick will talk to. It's important basically the way we think about steady state that we keep that going.
Speaker #5: Morning, Betty. Andy here. Maybe I'll quickly start this, and then Nick can talk a bit more specifically about the details of what we're doing in the Permian note.
Speaker #5: I did cover in the prepared remarks that what we've done here is effectively increased the midpoint of the CapEx by about $250 million. And I think it is important sort of to describe why we're doing that.
Speaker #5: It is we keep having the operational efficiency that Nick will talk to. And it's important basically the way we think about steady state that we keep that going.
Speaker #5: So on the operated side, it really is just a continuation basically of our steady state just given how efficient we're being. And then on the non-operated side, as I said in our prepared remarks, it's more in anticipation and starting to see the early signs of this of some of our non-operated partners starting to ballot us for more wells.
Andy O'Brien: On the operating side, it really is just a continuation, basically, of our steady state, just given how efficient we're being. And then on the non-operated side, as I, as I said in our prepared remarks, you know, it's, it's more, you know, in anticipation and starting to see the early signs of this of, you know, some of our non-operated partners starting to ballot us for more wells. I'd say it's more sort of, you know, the 250 is more around sort of operationally, setting ourselves up and sort of being thoughtful about, you know, what we keep our steady state and we react to partners versus a, you know, a big sort of, you know, macro call on price.
Andy O'Brien: On the operating side, it really is just a continuation, basically, of our steady state, just given how efficient we're being. And then on the non-operated side, as I, as I said in our prepared remarks, you know, it's, it's more, you know, in anticipation and starting to see the early signs of this of, you know, some of our non-operated partners starting to ballot us for more wells. I'd say it's more sort of, you know, the 250 is more around sort of operationally, setting ourselves up and sort of being thoughtful about, you know, what we keep our steady state and we react to partners versus a, you know, a big sort of, you know, macro call on price.
Speaker #5: So I'd say it's more sort of this $250 is more around sort of operationally setting ourselves up and sort of being thoughtful about what we keep our steady state and we react to partners versus a big sort of macro call on price.
Andy O'Brien: You know, maybe with that, I'll let Nick just give a bit of the specifics on what we're doing, and we can come back if there's anything more to cover.
Andy O'Brien: You know, maybe with that, I'll let Nick just give a bit of the specifics on what we're doing, and we can come back if there's anything more to cover.
Speaker #5: Maybe with that, I'll let Nick just give a bit of the specifics on what we're doing and we can come back if there's anything more to cover.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Andy. Good morning, Betty. As Andy mentioned, that $250 million additional activity is concentrated in the Delaware. And that's a combination of operated and non-operated.
Nick Olds: Yeah. Thanks, Andy. Good morning, Betty. As Andy mentioned, that $250 million additional activity is concentrated in the Delaware, and that's a combination of operated and non-operated. On the operated side, we continue to drive significant efficiencies both on the drilling and the completion operations. On our completion efficiencies, that's slightly outpacing the drilling side, so we're adding another Permian rig versus prior plan to help us keep pace with our frac crews and maintain our level-loaded, steady state operations approach that we've talked about for a number of years. The key item, and ultimately, what we don't wanna take place, is have any frac gaps due to the efficiency improvement that we're continuing to capture.
Nick Olds: Yeah. Thanks, Andy. Good morning, Betty. As Andy mentioned, that $250 million additional activity is concentrated in the Delaware, and that's a combination of operated and non-operated. On the operated side, we continue to drive significant efficiencies both on the drilling and the completion operations. On our completion efficiencies, that's slightly outpacing the drilling side, so we're adding another Permian rig versus prior plan to help us keep pace with our frac crews and maintain our level-loaded, steady state operations approach that we've talked about for a number of years. The key item, and ultimately, what we don't wanna take place, is have any frac gaps due to the efficiency improvement that we're continuing to capture.
Speaker #4: On the operated side, we continue to drive significant efficiencies both on the drilling and the completion operations. On our completion efficiencies, that's slightly outpacing the drilling side.
Speaker #4: So we're adding another Permian rig versus prior plan to help us keep pace with our frac crews and maintain our level loaded steady state operations approach that we've talked about for a number of years.
Speaker #4: The key item and ultimately what we don't want to take place is have any frac gaps due to the efficiency improvement that we're continuing to capture.
Speaker #4: If you recall last year as we exited 2025, we had a 15% improvement in DNC both operational efficiencies. And we continue to see those trends.
Nick Olds: If you recall, last year as we exited 2025, we had a 15% improvement in D&C, both operational efficiencies, and we continue to see those trends. On the completion efficiencies, those are outpacing them. Now, if I pivot to the non-operated OBO side, we have started to see more well ballots from our partners, which will likely translate to higher level of OBO spend over the H2 of the year. You know, we're not going to elect out of low cost of supply, high return OBO projects in this price environment. We've seen it in the past. They're competitive projects. They're short cycle. They're good returns. That's the right choice from a returns perspective.
Nick Olds: If you recall, last year as we exited 2025, we had a 15% improvement in D&C, both operational efficiencies, and we continue to see those trends. On the completion efficiencies, those are outpacing them. Now, if I pivot to the non-operated OBO side, we have started to see more well ballots from our partners, which will likely translate to higher level of OBO spend over the H2 of the year. You know, we're not going to elect out of low cost of supply, high return OBO projects in this price environment. We've seen it in the past. They're competitive projects. They're short cycle. They're good returns. That's the right choice from a returns perspective.
Speaker #4: But on the completion efficiencies, those are outpacing it. Now, if I pivot to the non-operated OBO side, we have started to see more well ballots from our partners.
Speaker #4: Which will likely translate to higher level of oboe spend over the second half of the year. And we're not going to elect out of low cost to supply high return oboe projects in this price environment.
Speaker #4: We've seen it in the past. They're competitive projects. They're short cycle or good returns. So that's the right choice from a returns perspective. Again, these activity additions are a modest capital add to our second half program and will maintain our operational efficiency going into 2027.
Nick Olds: Again, this activity additions are a modest capital add to our H2 program and will maintain our operational efficiency going into 2027.
Nick Olds: Again, this activity additions are a modest capital add to our H2 program and will maintain our operational efficiency going into 2027.
Speaker #3: Yeah. I would just add, Betty, these are no-brainers. These are 'does' for us. We're not going to be drilled out of inventory by others.
Ryan Lance: Yeah, I would just add, Betty, these are no-brainers. These are does for us. We're not gonna be drilled out of inventory by others, we're gonna keep our efficient machine running. You know, these are last half of the year. It doesn't have a large impact on 2026, but sets us up for the continued growth that we're seeing in the Lower 48 in our portfolio year-on-year. You saw it in Q1. You'll see it year-on-year, and that'll continue into 2027.
Ryan Lance: Yeah, I would just add, Betty, these are no-brainers. These are does for us. We're not gonna be drilled out of inventory by others, we're gonna keep our efficient machine running. You know, these are last half of the year. It doesn't have a large impact on 2026, but sets us up for the continued growth that we're seeing in the Lower 48 in our portfolio year-on-year. You saw it in Q1. You'll see it year-on-year, and that'll continue into 2027.
Speaker #3: And we're going to keep our efficient machine running, and so these are last half of the year. It doesn't have a large impact on 2026.
Speaker #3: But sets us up for the continued growth that we're seeing in the lower 48 in our portfolio year on year. You saw it in the first quarter.
Speaker #3: You'll see it year on year, and that'll continue into 2027. In the meantime, we'll be assessing what we think mid-cycle price is going to do and what the new equilibrium might look like.
Ryan Lance: In the meantime, we'll be assessing what we think mid-cycle price is gonna go do and what the new equilibrium might look like, and then what that follow-on means to the cash flows that we generate as a company, the returns that we're gonna send back to our shareholder, and what we reinvest for growth and development in the company. That'll be coming later this year, just as part of our normal processes.
Ryan Lance: In the meantime, we'll be assessing what we think mid-cycle price is gonna go do and what the new equilibrium might look like, and then what that follow-on means to the cash flows that we generate as a company, the returns that we're gonna send back to our shareholder, and what we reinvest for growth and development in the company. That'll be coming later this year, just as part of our normal processes.
Speaker #3: And then what that follow-on means to the cash flows that we generate as a company, the returns that we're going to send back to our shareholders, and what we reinvest for growth and development in the company.
Speaker #3: And that'll be coming later this year just as part of our normal processes.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Doug Leggett from Wolf Research. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Doug Leggate from Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Doug Leggate from Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.
Doug Leggate: Thanks for taking my questions. Hi, everybody. So I guess, Ryan and Andy, I'm looking at slide five and, you know, those of us who have been around long enough, Ryan, remember what you went through in 2016 with the dividend. Now we're sitting here looking at low $70s. You're probably doing $10 billion of free cash flow according to your chart. That's got 70% upside. My question is that you've stuck to the 45% cash flow payout. Your commitment is actually more than 30%. Clearly there's a little bit of pro-cyclical stuff going on with the share price. These windfalls can be capitalized in different ways, especially through your dividend policy. I just wonder if you can walk us through, in these kind of situations, why not flex down in the payout?
Doug Leggate: Thanks for taking my questions. Hi, everybody. So I guess, Ryan and Andy, I'm looking at slide five and, you know, those of us who have been around long enough, Ryan, remember what you went through in 2016 with the dividend. Now we're sitting here looking at low $70s. You're probably doing $10 billion of free cash flow according to your chart. That's got 70% upside. My question is that you've stuck to the 45% cash flow payout. Your commitment is actually more than 30%. Clearly there's a little bit of pro-cyclical stuff going on with the share price. These windfalls can be capitalized in different ways, especially through your dividend policy. I just wonder if you can walk us through, in these kind of situations, why not flex down in the payout?
Speaker #7: Thanks for taking my questions. Hi, everybody. So I guess, Ryan and Andy, I'm looking at slide five, and those of us who have been around long enough, Ryan, remember what you went through in 2016 with the dividend.
Speaker #7: And now we're sitting here looking at low 70s. You're probably doing $10 billion of free cash flow according to your chart. And that's got 70% upside.
Speaker #7: My question is that you’ve stuck to the 45% cash flow payout. Your commitment is actually more than 30%. And clearly, there’s a little bit of procyclical stuff going on with the share price.
Speaker #7: These windfalls can be capitalized in different ways, especially through your dividend policy. So, I just wonder if you can walk us through, in these kinds of situations, why not flex down in the payout?
Speaker #7: Why not think more about the longer-term dividend, the breakeven, the balance sheet? Although I'm just curious where your head's at on buying your shares at the top of the cycle.
Doug Leggate: Why not, you know, think more about the longer-term dividend, the breakeven, the balance sheet? I'm just curious where your head's at on buying your shares at the top of the cycle. It might not be the top of the cycle, but it's certainly elevated for the time being.
Doug Leggate: Why not, you know, think more about the longer-term dividend, the breakeven, the balance sheet? I'm just curious where your head's at on buying your shares at the top of the cycle. It might not be the top of the cycle, but it's certainly elevated for the time being.
Speaker #7: It might not be the top of the cycle, but it's certainly elevated for the time being.
Speaker #3: Yeah. No, thanks, Doug. I mean, we like to think about share repurchase sort of in a dollar-cost average. We tweak around the edges, which is why it was probably a little bit lower in the first quarter.
Ryan Lance: Yeah. No. Thanks, Doug. I mean, we like to think about share repurchase sort of in a dollar cost average. We tweak around the edges, which is why it was probably a little bit lower in Q1, but it was a good time to be buying in March and in April. You'll see probably us buying more in Q2 as we go forward. More fundamentally to your question, our 30%, you know, floor is set in a mid-cycle price construct that we start with for the company. We think about what mid-cycle prices are, what are the equilibrium.
Ryan Lance: Yeah. No. Thanks, Doug. I mean, we like to think about share repurchase sort of in a dollar cost average. We tweak around the edges, which is why it was probably a little bit lower in Q1, but it was a good time to be buying in March and in April. You'll see probably us buying more in Q2 as we go forward. More fundamentally to your question, our 30%, you know, floor is set in a mid-cycle price construct that we start with for the company. We think about what mid-cycle prices are, what are the equilibrium.
Speaker #3: But it was a good time to be buying. And March and April. So you'll see probably us buying more in the second quarter as we go forward.
Speaker #3: But more fundamentally to your question, our 30% floor is set in a mid-cycle price construct that we start with for the company. So we think about what mid-cycle prices are, what an equilibrium.
Speaker #3: Look, we know we're never in a perfect kind of world. But we have to understand that from a supply and demand percentage perspective. So we can understand sort of what cash flows do we generate?
Ryan Lance: Look, we know we're never in a perfect kind of world. We have to understand that from a supply and demand percentage or perspective, so we can understand sort of what cash flows do we generate, what can we give back to the shareholder. Clearly, since we set that coming out of the downturn in 2014 and 2015, when we recast the value proposition for the company, you know, it made sense. We've had, you know, mid-cycle price. The actual price has been higher than our mid-cycle call for most of that time. We've been able to afford and be able to provide more than 30% back to the shareholder.
Ryan Lance: Look, we know we're never in a perfect kind of world. We have to understand that from a supply and demand percentage or perspective, so we can understand sort of what cash flows do we generate, what can we give back to the shareholder. Clearly, since we set that coming out of the downturn in 2014 and 2015, when we recast the value proposition for the company, you know, it made sense. We've had, you know, mid-cycle price. The actual price has been higher than our mid-cycle call for most of that time. We've been able to afford and be able to provide more than 30% back to the shareholder.
Speaker #3: What can we give back to the shareholder? And clearly, since we set that coming out of the downturn in 2014 and 2015 when we recast the value proposition for the company, it made sense.
Speaker #3: But we've had mid-cycle prior, so the actual price has been higher than our mid-cycle call for most of that time. So we've been able to afford and be able to provide more than 30% back to the shareholder.
Speaker #3: In our history, it has been, I think, now coming up on a decade through the cycles—even through the low point of the COVID pandemic in 2020 and the high point of 2022, when we were sending quite a bit back to the shareholder.
Ryan Lance: Our history has been, I think, now coming up on a decade through the cycles, even through the low point of the COVID pandemic in 2020 and the high point of 2022 when we were sending quite a bit back to the shareholder. We think about it through cycle. We try to set mid-cycle price, and we just are constantly trying to drive down the reinvestment rate in the company. We're trying to drive growth for as least amount of capital as we can in the business, which is why Nick talks about what we're doing in the Lower 48 to drive the efficiencies that his team is doing, what Kirk's doing around the rest of the world, and the opportunity we have in our legacy assets.
Ryan Lance: Our history has been, I think, now coming up on a decade through the cycles, even through the low point of the COVID pandemic in 2020 and the high point of 2022 when we were sending quite a bit back to the shareholder. We think about it through cycle. We try to set mid-cycle price, and we just are constantly trying to drive down the reinvestment rate in the company. We're trying to drive growth for as least amount of capital as we can in the business, which is why Nick talks about what we're doing in the Lower 48 to drive the efficiencies that his team is doing, what Kirk's doing around the rest of the world, and the opportunity we have in our legacy assets.
Speaker #3: So we think about it through cycle. We try to set mid-cycle price. And we just are constantly trying to drive down the reinvestment rate in the company.
Speaker #3: We're trying to drive growth for as least amount of capital as we can. In the business, which is why Nick talks about what we're doing in the lower 48 to drive the efficiencies that his team is doing.
Speaker #3: But Kirk's doing around the rest of the world and the opportunity we have in our legacy assets. So we've been able to afford something higher than our base.
Ryan Lance: We've been able to afford something higher than our base, and that represents the 45 commitment that we've made for this year because we recognize that the strength and the power the company is doing. We don't want the dividend to get outsized, as you referred to before, which may have been for those that remember pre-2015, 2016. There's not many of us around anymore, Doug. Maybe you and I, that's about it. Look, we wanna make sure that we can sustain the dividend. We wanna make sure we can grow the dividend at a competitive S&P 500 rate. We think that's important. Being able to constantly, continually, annually grow it is something we think is competitive with the S&P 500 top quartile.
Ryan Lance: We've been able to afford something higher than our base, and that represents the 45 commitment that we've made for this year because we recognize that the strength and the power the company is doing. We don't want the dividend to get outsized, as you referred to before, which may have been for those that remember pre-2015, 2016. There's not many of us around anymore, Doug. Maybe you and I, that's about it. Look, we wanna make sure that we can sustain the dividend. We wanna make sure we can grow the dividend at a competitive S&P 500 rate. We think that's important. Being able to constantly, continually, annually grow it is something we think is competitive with the S&P 500 top quartile.
Speaker #3: And that represents the 45 commitments that we've made for this year, because we recognize that the strength and the power of the company is doing.
Speaker #3: Now, we don't want the dividend to get outsized as you referred to before, which may have been for those that remember pre-2015, 2016. There's not many of us around anymore, Doug.
Speaker #3: Maybe you and I. That's about it. But look, we want to make sure that we can sustain the dividend. We want to make sure we can grow the dividend at a competitive S&P 500 rate.
Speaker #3: We think that's important, being able to constantly continually annually grow it. It's something we think is competitive with the S&P 500 top quartile. And that's our commitment to go continue to do that.
Ryan Lance: That's our commitment to go continue to do that. At the same time, we wanna make sure the dividend doesn't get an outsized portion of our cash flows at a mid-cycle price, whatever mid-cycle price we call. We're trying to manage both those things. Typically, the dividend today is certainly affordable, growable, but doesn't represent the full 45%, so we're augmenting that with the share repurchases. We think that makes sense over the long haul. It reduces the absolute burden of the dividend going forward. It might have some procyclic nature to it a little bit, but we don't cling to it steadfast.
Ryan Lance: That's our commitment to go continue to do that. At the same time, we wanna make sure the dividend doesn't get an outsized portion of our cash flows at a mid-cycle price, whatever mid-cycle price we call. We're trying to manage both those things. Typically, the dividend today is certainly affordable, growable, but doesn't represent the full 45%, so we're augmenting that with the share repurchases. We think that makes sense over the long haul. It reduces the absolute burden of the dividend going forward. It might have some procyclic nature to it a little bit, but we don't cling to it steadfast.
Speaker #3: But at the same time, we want to make sure the dividend doesn't get an outsized portion of our cash flows at a mid-cycle price—whatever mid-cycle price we call.
Speaker #3: So we're trying to manage both those things. And typically, the dividend today is certainly affordable, growable. But it doesn't represent the full 45%. So we're augmenting that with the share repurchases.
Speaker #3: And we think that makes sense. Over the long haul, it reduces the absolute burden of the dividend going forward. It might have some procyclic nature to it a little bit.
Speaker #3: But we aren't we don't cling to it steadfast. We'll ratchet up and down a little bit quarter to quarter to try to manage some of that.
Ryan Lance: We'll ratchet up and down a little bit quarter to quarter to try to manage some of that. We do wanna make sure we hit the 45% made up between the base dividend and whatever shares we're repurchasing in the market. We try to take a pretty ratable effort to go do that.
Ryan Lance: We'll ratchet up and down a little bit quarter to quarter to try to manage some of that. We do wanna make sure we hit the 45% made up between the base dividend and whatever shares we're repurchasing in the market. We try to take a pretty ratable effort to go do that.
Speaker #3: But we do want to make sure we hit the 45% made up between the base dividend and whatever shares we're repurchasing in the market.
Speaker #3: And we try to take a pretty rateable effort to go do that.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Lloyd Byrne from Jefferies. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Lloyd Byrne from Jefferies. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Lloyd Byrne from Jefferies. Your line is now open.
Speaker #8: Hey, good morning, Ryan. And team. Can we talk about OPEX a little bit? It continues to stand out. And if you could just maybe comment on the trajectory from here.
Lloyd Byrne: Hey, good morning, Ryan and team. Can we talk about OpEx a little bit? It continues to stand out. If you could just maybe comment on the trajectory from here. Is there anything other than maybe conservatism that keeps you from bringing the full-year guide down?
Lloyd Byrne: Hey, good morning, Ryan and team. Can we talk about OpEx a little bit? It continues to stand out. If you could just maybe comment on the trajectory from here. Is there anything other than maybe conservatism that keeps you from bringing the full-year guide down?
Speaker #8: And then, is there anything other than maybe conservatism that keeps you from bringing the full-year guide down?
Speaker #5: Hey, morning, Lloyd. Andy here. Yeah. So I think I can take this one in terms of we did set our budget at $10.2 billion.
Andy O'Brien: Hey, morning, Lloyd. Andy here. I think I can take this one in terms of, you know, we did set our budget at $10.2 billion. That, you know, that was, as a reminder, $400 million lower than last year. As you point out, our Q1 results, you know, were very strong. We're really pleased with them. It's broadly being driven by that we are taking costs, you know, out faster than we'd originally premised from our cost reductions, both on the labor side and on the non-labor side with our lease operating costs.
Andy O'Brien: Hey, morning, Lloyd. Andy here. I think I can take this one in terms of, you know, we did set our budget at $10.2 billion. That, you know, that was, as a reminder, $400 million lower than last year. As you point out, our Q1 results, you know, were very strong. We're really pleased with them. It's broadly being driven by that we are taking costs, you know, out faster than we'd originally premised from our cost reductions, both on the labor side and on the non-labor side with our lease operating costs.
Speaker #5: And that was, as a reminder, 400 million dollars lower than last year. And as you point out, our 1Q results, we're very strong. We're really pleased with them.
Speaker #5: And it's probably being driven by that we are taking costs out faster than we'd originally promised. From our cost reductions, both on the labor side and on the non-labor side with our least operating costs.
Speaker #5: So when we look at it, and Q1 is reinforcing this, we're very confident that we're going to hit that $1 billion in run rate savings by year-end.
Andy O'Brien: When we look at it, and Q1 is reinforcing this, you know, we're very confident that we're gonna, you know, hit that $1 billion in run rate savings by the year-end. Really, to get, I think, to the heart of your question, you know, in terms of guidance, you know, I think it is only Q1. We're very, very pleased with how things have gone. But we'd like just a little bit more time before we revisit, you know, whether we would wanna reduce guidance or not.
Andy O'Brien: When we look at it, and Q1 is reinforcing this, you know, we're very confident that we're gonna, you know, hit that $1 billion in run rate savings by the year-end. Really, to get, I think, to the heart of your question, you know, in terms of guidance, you know, I think it is only Q1. We're very, very pleased with how things have gone. But we'd like just a little bit more time before we revisit, you know, whether we would wanna reduce guidance or not.
Speaker #5: But really, to get, I think, to the heart of your question—in terms of guidance—I think it is only the first quarter. We're very, very pleased with how things have gone.
Speaker #5: But we'd like just a little bit more time before we revisit whether we would want to reduce guidance or not.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Devin McDermott from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Devin McDermott from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Devin McDermott from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
Speaker #6: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask on the LNG portfolio outside of the Middle East first, just a little bit of additional detail on this EG agreement you signed in a more broadly.
Devin McDermott: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask on the LNG portfolio outside of the Middle East for just a little bit of additional detail on this EG agreement you signed. You know, more broadly, you have this big commercial portfolio of LNG offtake contracts, including 5 million tons off of Port Arthur. I was wondering if you could just give an update on where you stand in marketing and placing those commercial LNG volumes. I would imagine they've gotten more valuable with everything going on in the market right now.
Devin McDermott: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask on the LNG portfolio outside of the Middle East for just a little bit of additional detail on this EG agreement you signed. You know, more broadly, you have this big commercial portfolio of LNG offtake contracts, including 5 million tons off of Port Arthur. I was wondering if you could just give an update on where you stand in marketing and placing those commercial LNG volumes. I would imagine they've gotten more valuable with everything going on in the market right now.
Speaker #6: You have this big commercial portfolio of LNG offtake contracts, including 5 million tons off of Port Arthur. I was wondering if you could just give an update on where you stand in marketing and placing those commercial LNG volumes.
Speaker #6: I would imagine have gotten more valuable with everything going on in the market right now.
Speaker #5: Sure, I can start with the second half of your question. And then, specifically to Equatorial Guinea, I'll let Kirk jump in and maybe share a bit more on that.
Andy O'Brien: Sure. I can start with the second half of your question, and specifically to Equatorial Guinea. I'll let Kirk jump in and maybe share a bit more on that. Yeah, our LNG strategy, on the commercial side, we really couldn't be more pleased with the progress we're making. You know, I think as you say that, what's happening in the market right now, you know, our view is that we, you know, we have seen, you know, a structural tightening of global LNG, not just for this year, but for, you know, quite some time, you know, to go.
Andy O'Brien: Sure. I can start with the second half of your question, and specifically to Equatorial Guinea. I'll let Kirk jump in and maybe share a bit more on that. Yeah, our LNG strategy, on the commercial side, we really couldn't be more pleased with the progress we're making. You know, I think as you say that, what's happening in the market right now, you know, our view is that we, you know, we have seen, you know, a structural tightening of global LNG, not just for this year, but for, you know, quite some time, you know, to go.
Speaker #5: So yeah, our LNG strategy on the commercial side—we really couldn't be more pleased with the progress we're making. I think, as you say, what's happening in the market right now—our view is that we have seen a structural tightening of global LNG, not just for this year, but for quite some time to go.
Speaker #5: You'll recall that pre-all the events in the Middle East, we actually had a bit of a contrarian sort of view versus consensus where we thought the market was more imbalanced versus sort of a thesis of a bit of a glut.
Andy O'Brien: You'll recall that, you know, pre all the events in the Middle East, we actually had a bit of a contrarian sort of view versus consensus, where we thought the market was, you know, more in balance, versus sort of a thesis of, you know, a bit of a glut. You know, that's obviously all gone away now. If anything, you know, I think everyone is now sort of seeing the tightening market. As we look at it specifically, you know, where we're in a situation where we've got sort of, you know, first-mover advantage here now where we've, you know, pretty pleased that we've put, you know, our 10 million tons that we already have in place.
Andy O'Brien: You'll recall that, you know, pre all the events in the Middle East, we actually had a bit of a contrarian sort of view versus consensus, where we thought the market was, you know, more in balance, versus sort of a thesis of, you know, a bit of a glut. You know, that's obviously all gone away now. If anything, you know, I think everyone is now sort of seeing the tightening market. As we look at it specifically, you know, where we're in a situation where we've got sort of, you know, first-mover advantage here now where we've, you know, pretty pleased that we've put, you know, our 10 million tons that we already have in place.
Speaker #5: So that's obviously all gone away now. And if anything, I think everyone is now sort of seeing sort of the tightening market. And as we look at it specifically, we're in a situation where we've got sort of first move of advantage here now, where we've really pleased that we put our 10 million tons that we already have in place just like we think about our EMP portfolio, low-cost supply in this world, low liquefaction costs.
Andy O'Brien: You know, just like we think about our E&P portfolio, low-cost supply in this world, low liquefaction costs, you know, are important. We've got that, you know, where, you know, we've already placed the first 5 million tons, you know, predominantly to Europe and a bit into Asia on phase one. As you can imagine, sort of the conversations we're having about placing sort of what else we have is intensifying right now, with interest in sort of in those volumes that we have. I think it's just reinforced, you know, the global security element of it as well in terms of sort of the importance of having, you know, positions, you know, on the Gulf Coast and the value of that. You know, that, you know, that's really just played into our strategy really.
Andy O'Brien: You know, just like we think about our E&P portfolio, low-cost supply in this world, low liquefaction costs, you know, are important. We've got that, you know, where, you know, we've already placed the first 5 million tons, you know, predominantly to Europe and a bit into Asia on phase one. As you can imagine, sort of the conversations we're having about placing sort of what else we have is intensifying right now, with interest in sort of in those volumes that we have. I think it's just reinforced, you know, the global security element of it as well in terms of sort of the importance of having, you know, positions, you know, on the Gulf Coast and the value of that. You know, that, you know, that's really just played into our strategy really.
Speaker #5: Important, we've got that. Where we've already placed the first 5 million tons predominantly into Europe, and a bit into Asia, from phase one. And as you can imagine, sort of the conversations we're having about placing what else we have is intensifying right now.
Speaker #5: With interest in sort of in those volumes that we have. So I think it's just reinforced the global security element of it as well in terms of sort of the importance of having positions on the Gulf Coast and the value of that.
Speaker #5: And that's really just played into our strategy, really. I'd say the first mover event has been very important to us on the commercial side.
Andy O'Brien: The first mover event has been very important to us on the commercial side. Probably one last comment to make before just passing it off to Kirk, it's, you know, we'd be remiss not to also mention the rest of our resource LNG business outside of commercial with, you know, APLNG and, you know, others that where, you know, where effectively those projects are priced off of long-term contracts linked to Brent for the most part. You know, they're also sort of, you know, doing well in this environment as well. I think the LNG strategy is all proving out very nicely for us, sort of along the lines that we would hoped. Maybe specific to your Equatorial Guinea question, I'll let Kirk jump in.
Andy O'Brien: The first mover event has been very important to us on the commercial side. Probably one last comment to make before just passing it off to Kirk, it's, you know, we'd be remiss not to also mention the rest of our resource LNG business outside of commercial with, you know, APLNG and, you know, others that where, you know, where effectively those projects are priced off of long-term contracts linked to Brent for the most part. You know, they're also sort of, you know, doing well in this environment as well. I think the LNG strategy is all proving out very nicely for us, sort of along the lines that we would hoped. Maybe specific to your Equatorial Guinea question, I'll let Kirk jump in.
Speaker #5: And probably one last comment to make before just passing it off to Kirk. It's we'd be remiss not to also mention sort of our the rest of our resource LNG business.
Speaker #5: Outside of commercial, with APLNG and others that we're effectively those projects are priced off of long-term contracts linked to Brent for the most part.
Speaker #5: So they're also sort of doing well in this environment as well. So I think the LNG strategy is all proving out very nicely for us, sort of along the lines that we would have hoped.
Speaker #5: And then, maybe specific to your Equatorial Guinea question, I'll let Kirk jump in. Yeah. Morning, Devin. Certainly, as you're pointing to, the EGLNG asset came to us through the Marathon acquisition.
Kirk Johnson: Yeah. Morning, Devin. Certainly as you're pointing to the EG LNG asset came to us through the Marathon acquisition, and it came with a strong reputation of performance. So the question for us was really about longevity. The more we've come to understand just the performance and the capability of that asset and that organization, we've just been really quite pleased. As described certainly in the release, we were able to strike an agreement, a tolling agreement, with a third party at EG LNG. So again, maybe to just step back a bit, this EG LNG asset for us, or the Equatorial Guinea asset comes with an upstream operation from the Alba Field.
Kirk Johnson: Yeah. Morning, Devin. Certainly as you're pointing to the EG LNG asset came to us through the Marathon acquisition, and it came with a strong reputation of performance. So the question for us was really about longevity. The more we've come to understand just the performance and the capability of that asset and that organization, we've just been really quite pleased. As described certainly in the release, we were able to strike an agreement, a tolling agreement, with a third party at EG LNG. So again, maybe to just step back a bit, this EG LNG asset for us, or the Equatorial Guinea asset comes with an upstream operation from the Alba Field.
Speaker #5: And it came with a strong reputation of performance. And so, the question for us was really about longevity. And the more we've come to understand just the performance and the capability of that asset and that organization, we've just been really quite pleased.
Speaker #5: As described certainly in the release, we were able to strike an agreement, a tolling agreement, with a third party at EGLNG. And so, again, maybe to just step back a bit, this EGLNG asset for us—or the Equatorial Guinea asset—comes with an upstream operation from the Alba unit.
Speaker #5: Obviously, we have production facilities offshore. And then there on the island, next to Moabo, the capital. And then, of course, we have an equity position in EGLNG as well.
Kirk Johnson: Obviously, we have production facilities offshore and then there on the island next to Malabo, the capital. Of course, we have an equity position in EG LNG as well. Our ability then through EG LNG to strike this agreement then comes with an opportunity to further extend the life of this EG LNG asset. It allows us to run that facility at a strong utilization rate and pushes the life of that asset again, well into the 2030s. That gives us a bit of time, which you've also seen some press from us around the HOAs that we've been striking there with the ministry in Equatorial Guinea looking at discovered resource.
Kirk Johnson: Obviously, we have production facilities offshore and then there on the island next to Malabo, the capital. Of course, we have an equity position in EG LNG as well. Our ability then through EG LNG to strike this agreement then comes with an opportunity to further extend the life of this EG LNG asset. It allows us to run that facility at a strong utilization rate and pushes the life of that asset again, well into the 2030s. That gives us a bit of time, which you've also seen some press from us around the HOAs that we've been striking there with the ministry in Equatorial Guinea looking at discovered resource.
Speaker #5: And so, our ability then, through EGLNG, to strike this agreement then comes with an opportunity to further extend the life of this EGLNG asset.
Speaker #5: It allows us to run that facility at a strong utilization rate. And pushes the life of that asset again well into the 2030s. And that gives us a bit of time which you've also seen some press from us around the HOAs that we've been striking there with the ministry in Equatorial Guinea, looking at discovered resource.
Speaker #5: And I think that's an important clarification, which is that there are opportunities—known resources, specifically gas—in and around the island, in Equatorial Guinea waters, that we can begin pursuing.
Kirk Johnson: I think that's an important clarification, which is there are opportunities, known resource, specifically gas in and around the island in Equatorial Guinea waters that we can begin pursuing to understand what those look like for us to bring those to a commercial opportunity, and again, utilize all of the capacity that will exist for us long term in that asset. Again, it's an interesting asset. Sales out of EG LNG consists of both SPA and a long-term SPA as well as spot. It's in a great position to take cargoes both north into Europe or around the horn into Asia. Again, pleased with how this asset's continuing to prove itself out there as well.
Kirk Johnson: I think that's an important clarification, which is there are opportunities, known resource, specifically gas in and around the island in Equatorial Guinea waters that we can begin pursuing to understand what those look like for us to bring those to a commercial opportunity, and again, utilize all of the capacity that will exist for us long term in that asset. Again, it's an interesting asset. Sales out of EG LNG consists of both SPA and a long-term SPA as well as spot. It's in a great position to take cargoes both north into Europe or around the horn into Asia. Again, pleased with how this asset's continuing to prove itself out there as well.
Speaker #5: To understand what those look like for us to bring those to commercial opportunity. And again, utilize the oleage of the capacity that will exist for us long-term in that asset.
Speaker #5: So again, it's an interesting asset. Sales out of EGLNG consist of both SPA and long-term SPA, as well as spot. And it's in a great position to take cargoes both north into Europe, or around the Horn into Asia.
Speaker #5: So again, pleased with how this asset’s continuing to prove itself out there as well.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Arun Jarram from JPMorgan. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Arun Jayaram from JP Morgan. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Arun Jayaram from JPMorgan. Your line is now open.
Speaker #6: Yeah, thanks for taking my question. I had a quick follow-up on LNG. I was wondering if you could comment on how some of the Middle East disruptions are impacting your view of the LNG macro picture.
Arun Jayaram: Yeah, thanks for taking my question. I had a quick follow-up on LNG. I was wondering if you could comment how some of the Middle East disruptions are impacting your view of the LNG macro picture, and I was wondering if perhaps you give us a little bit of an update on the NFE and NFS projects, just given some of the disruptions in that part of the world.
Arun Jayaram: Yeah, thanks for taking my question. I had a quick follow-up on LNG. I was wondering if you could comment how some of the Middle East disruptions are impacting your view of the LNG macro picture, and I was wondering if perhaps you give us a little bit of an update on the NFE and NFS projects, just given some of the disruptions in that part of the world.
Speaker #6: And I was wondering if perhaps you'd give us a little bit of an update on the NFE and NFS projects, just given some of the disruptions in that part of the world.
Speaker #5: Yeah, I can start with the macro, and then Kirk can go into the specifics on NFE and NFS. From a macro perspective, I kind of touched on this in an earlier answer.
Andy O'Brien: I can start with the macro and then Kirk can go into the specifics on NFE and NFS. You know, from a macro perspective, you know, I kind of touched on this on an earlier answer. You know, if you think about what's actually happened, you know, with the 2 months that we've basically had, you know, Qatar production shut in in terms of not going through the Strait. That's 20% basically of the LNG sort of that's not flowing. Maybe a better way to put that into context so people can visualize it, you know, that equates to something like 200 cargoes that have not basically sailed. 200 cargoes haven't been delivered.
Andy O'Brien: I can start with the macro and then Kirk can go into the specifics on NFE and NFS. You know, from a macro perspective, you know, I kind of touched on this on an earlier answer. You know, if you think about what's actually happened, you know, with the 2 months that we've basically had, you know, Qatar production shut in in terms of not going through the Strait. That's 20% basically of the LNG sort of that's not flowing. Maybe a better way to put that into context so people can visualize it, you know, that equates to something like 200 cargoes that have not basically sailed. 200 cargoes haven't been delivered.
Speaker #5: But if you think about what's actually happened with the two months that we've basically had Qatar production shut in, in terms of not going through the Strait, that's 20% basically of the LNG that's not flowing.
Speaker #5: And maybe a better way to put that into context, so people can visualize it: that equates to something like 200 cargoes that have not basically sailed.
Speaker #5: So, 200 cargoes haven't been delivered. So our view of the macro is that we like to have already seen a little bit of a structural change here, where there's going to be LNG shortages for quite some time.
Andy O'Brien: You know, our view of the macro is that, you know, we likely have already seen a little bit of a structural change here where, you know, there's gonna be LNG shortages, you know, for quite some time. You know, when we look at basically where we're at with this is that it's gonna be a situation where, you know, prices are likely gonna be quite constructive for a period of time as, you know, really people are gonna have to, you know, basically bid up price to sort of manage the demand supply piece of this equation.
Andy O'Brien: You know, our view of the macro is that, you know, we likely have already seen a little bit of a structural change here where, you know, there's gonna be LNG shortages, you know, for quite some time. You know, when we look at basically where we're at with this is that it's gonna be a situation where, you know, prices are likely gonna be quite constructive for a period of time as, you know, really people are gonna have to, you know, basically bid up price to sort of manage the demand supply piece of this equation.
Speaker #5: And when we look at basically where we're at with this, it's going to be a situation where prices are likely going to be quite constructive for a period of time, as really people are going to have to basically bid up price to sort of manage the demand-supply piece of this equation.
Andy O'Brien: You know, I think, you know, when you look at what Qatar has, you know, publicly said around, you know, the damage to Ras Laffan, that it's gonna take some time to get that capacity back on the market as well. You know, our, our in-house view is that we've, we've essentially seen, you know, a bit of a structural change on LNG with all that's happened and, you know, it's gonna take quite a long time to basically get anything back close to where we used to be. You know, I think with that, I can let Kirk talk specifically about sort of, you know, our position in NFE and NFS.
Speaker #5: And I think, when you look at what Qatar has publicly said around the damage to Rafah, that it's going to take some time to get that capacity back on the market as well.
Andy O'Brien: You know, I think, you know, when you look at what Qatar has, you know, publicly said around, you know, the damage to Ras Laffan, that it's gonna take some time to get that capacity back on the market as well. You know, our, our in-house view is that we've, we've essentially seen, you know, a bit of a structural change on LNG with all that's happened and, you know, it's gonna take quite a long time to basically get anything back close to where we used to be. You know, I think with that, I can let Kirk talk specifically about sort of, you know, our position in NFE and NFS.
Speaker #5: So, our in-house view is that we've essentially seen a bit of a structural change on LNG with all that's happened. And it's going to take quite a long time to basically get anything back close to where we used to be.
Speaker #5: So I think with that, I can let Kirk talk specifically about sort of our position in NFE and NFS. But to the broader macro is one where I think this is sort of crystallizing to be sort of a little different to the oil in terms of where we know kind of start to know where we are with this.
Andy O'Brien: The broader macro is one where, I think this is sort of crystallizing to be, you know, a little different to the oil in terms of where we kind of start to know where we're, where we are with this.
Andy O'Brien: The broader macro is one where, I think this is sort of crystallizing to be, you know, a little different to the oil in terms of where we kind of start to know where we're, where we are with this.
Speaker #5: And I would add too, Arun, before Kirk jumps in on that—NFE and NFS—that we're watching gas inventories in Europe. That today are well below where they should be, given the build that they should be experiencing.
Kirk Johnson: I would add too, Arun, before Kirk jumps in on NFE and NFS, that, you know, we're watching, gas inventories in Europe.
Ryan Lance: I would add too, Arun, before Kirk jumps in on NFE and NFS, that, you know, we're watching, gas inventories in Europe.
Andy O'Brien: Yeah
Andy O'Brien: Yeah
Kirk Johnson: ... that today are
Ryan Lance: That today are. Well below where they should be given, you know, the build that they should be experiencing. Really concerned depending on when winter comes across Northern Europe and how hard that winter comes, is the gas gonna be there? Certainly, the inventories at today, at this moment in time, would put a kind of a blinky light on some of that going forward. Maybe Kirk can talk specifically about Qatar.
Andy O'Brien: Well below where they should be given, you know, the build that they should be experiencing. Really concerned depending on when winter comes across Northern Europe and how hard that winter comes, is the gas gonna be there? Certainly, the inventories at today, at this moment in time, would put a kind of a blinky light on some of that going forward. Maybe Kirk can talk specifically about Qatar.
Speaker #5: So, really concerned, depending on the wind—winner comes across Northern Europe—and how hard that winner comes, is the gas going to be there? Certainly, the inventories that today, at this moment in time, would put a kind of a blinky light on some of that going forward.
Speaker #5: So maybe Kirk can talk specifically about Qatar.
Speaker #6: Yeah. Maybe just a few quick clarifying comments, Arun, on how this certainly is affecting us. Naturally, I think you understand and folks know that our single producing asset there in Qatar is N-3.
Kirk Johnson: Just a few quick clarifying comments, Arun, on how this certainly is affecting us. Naturally, I think you understand and folks know that our single producing asset there in Qatar is in three. As a run rate, that was roughly 80,000 barrels oil equivalent here last year, so a good run rate. That's roughly 3% of our total company production and very similar on total CFO. Worth clarifying that the remainder of our global portfolio has been largely unaffected, really unaffected by these recent events. It's really been quite contained to just simply this N3 asset.
Kirk Johnson: Just a few quick clarifying comments, Arun, on how this certainly is affecting us. Naturally, I think you understand and folks know that our single producing asset there in Qatar is in three. As a run rate, that was roughly 80,000 barrels oil equivalent here last year, so a good run rate. That's roughly 3% of our total company production and very similar on total CFO. Worth clarifying that the remainder of our global portfolio has been largely unaffected, really unaffected by these recent events. It's really been quite contained to just simply this N3 asset.
Speaker #6: And as a run rate, that was roughly 80,000 barrels of oil equivalent here last year. So a good run rate, and that's roughly 3% of our total company production.
Speaker #6: And very similar on total CFO. So, worth clarifying that the remainder of our global portfolio has been largely unaffected—really unaffected—by these recent events.
Speaker #6: So it's really been quite contained to just simply this N3 asset. And naturally, as you'd expect, QatarEnergy, QE, executed a very controlled ramp down and ultimately largely a shutdown across most of their trains there at Ras Laffan for both security and process integrity reasons.
Kirk Johnson: Naturally, as you'd expect, QatarEnergy, QE, executed a very controlled ramp down and ultimately largely a shutdown across most of their trains there at Ras Laffan for both security and process integrity reasons. Also because clearly, as Andy mentioned, with the Strait closed, there's just limited capacity, if any, to lift cargoes there. As QE disclosed, 2 trains were struck. Those were not ours. Again, you know, that took just under 12 MTPA off the market. QatarEnergy has been quite explicit about the fact that they expect that to impact the global market for upwards of 3 to 5 years. So, again, unaffected for us. While it's easy to conflate the construction of NFE and NFS with the operation of those, they're really quite separate.
Kirk Johnson: Naturally, as you'd expect, QatarEnergy, QE, executed a very controlled ramp down and ultimately largely a shutdown across most of their trains there at Ras Laffan for both security and process integrity reasons. Also because clearly, as Andy mentioned, with the Strait closed, there's just limited capacity, if any, to lift cargoes there. As QE disclosed, 2 trains were struck. Those were not ours. Again, you know, that took just under 12 MTPA off the market. QatarEnergy has been quite explicit about the fact that they expect that to impact the global market for upwards of 3 to 5 years. So, again, unaffected for us. While it's easy to conflate the construction of NFE and NFS with the operation of those, they're really quite separate.
Speaker #6: But also because, clearly, as Andy mentioned, with the straight close, there's just limited capacity, if any, to lift cargoes there. As QE disclosed, two trains were struck.
Speaker #6: Those were not ours. And again, that took just under 12 MTPA off the market. And Qatar Energy has been quite explicit about the fact that they expect that to impact the global market for upwards of three to five years.
Speaker #6: And so again, unaffected for us. And while it's easy to conflate the construction of NFE, NFS with the operation of those, they're really quite separate.
Speaker #6: And what we are pleased to see is, despite the conflict, construction on NFE and NFS both has been progressing. Now, naturally, there have been some impacts and some interruptions.
Kirk Johnson: What we are pleased to see is despite the conflict, construction on NFE and NFS both been progressing. Naturally, there has been some impacts and some interruptions, but much different than operations. Also QE has disclosed that they do expect delays. It's a bit premature to provide really strong guidance on just specifically how that's gonna manifest. I would say largely, we're expecting the delay to be to the tune of months. You'll also recall, QE guided on a H2 of this year's startup. Could be possible certainly that extends into the early part of next year. Again, we chose to simply guide on production for the company on Q2.
Kirk Johnson: What we are pleased to see is despite the conflict, construction on NFE and NFS both been progressing. Naturally, there has been some impacts and some interruptions, but much different than operations. Also QE has disclosed that they do expect delays. It's a bit premature to provide really strong guidance on just specifically how that's gonna manifest. I would say largely, we're expecting the delay to be to the tune of months. You'll also recall, QE guided on a H2 of this year's startup. Could be possible certainly that extends into the early part of next year. Again, we chose to simply guide on production for the company on Q2.
Speaker #6: But much different than operations. And so, also, while QE has disclosed that they do expect delays, it's a bit premature to provide really strong guidance on just specifically how that's going to manifest.
Speaker #6: But I would say largely, we're expecting the delay to be to the tune of months. And you'll also recall QE guided on a second half of this year's startup.
Speaker #6: And so could be possible, certainly, that that extends into the early part of next year. So again, we chose to simply guide on production for the company on 2Q.
Speaker #6: Removing that from guidance certainly felt like that was best in terms of clarity for all. And then we'll be watching this closely as both construction and our own production there in QE continue to evolve very conflict-dependent.
Kirk Johnson: Removing that from guidance, certainly felt like that was best in terms of clarity for all. We'll be watching this closely as both construction and our own production there in QE continue to evolve. Very conflict dependent. Hopefully, that's helpful.
Kirk Johnson: Removing that from guidance, certainly felt like that was best in terms of clarity for all. We'll be watching this closely as both construction and our own production there in QE continue to evolve. Very conflict dependent. Hopefully, that's helpful.
Speaker #6: But hopefully, that's helpful.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Bob Bracket from Bernstein Research. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Bob Brackett from Bernstein Research. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Bob Brackett from Bernstein Research. Your line is now open.
Speaker #7: Good, good afternoon. Apologies for a bit of an educational question, but there are a couple of topics that I'm working on educating folks about, and you may help.
Bob Brackett: Good. Good afternoon. Apologies for a bit of an educational question. There's a couple topics that I'm working on educating folks, and you may help. One is just the idea of one-on-one on price realization, especially as they pertain to timing, given the very sharp moves in crude price we've seen. The second would be a bit of one-on-one around the engineering of shut-ins. You guys have certainly a 2020 track record of understanding that stuff. Shut-ins and the potential long-term impacts to production. I'd appreciate that.
Bob Brackett: Good. Good afternoon. Apologies for a bit of an educational question. There's a couple topics that I'm working on educating folks, and you may help. One is just the idea of one-on-one on price realization, especially as they pertain to timing, given the very sharp moves in crude price we've seen. The second would be a bit of one-on-one around the engineering of shut-ins. You guys have certainly a 2020 track record of understanding that stuff. Shut-ins and the potential long-term impacts to production. I'd appreciate that.
Speaker #7: One is just the idea of 101 on price realizations, especially as they pertain to timing, given the very sharp moves in crude price we've seen.
Speaker #7: And the second would be a bit of 101 around the engineering of shut-ins. You guys have certainly a 2020 track record of understanding that stuff.
Speaker #7: Shut-ins and the potential long-term impacts to production. I'd appreciate that.
Speaker #6: Okay, Bob, it's Andy here. I'll start with maybe the first part of that question on pricing. And I'm looking forward to reading your report on this, because you can probably teach us a thing or two as well.
Andy O'Brien: Okay, Bob. It's Andy here. I'll start with the maybe the first part of that question on pricing. I'm looking forward to reading your report on this because you can probably teach us a thing or two as well. Maybe I'll describe it from sort of our perspective from ConocoPhillips, and hopefully, that's helpful. I'll have Ryan maybe talk about the other parts of your question. So in terms of sort of, I think it might be easier if I answer your question from the pricing, really from our portfolio perspective, and then you can infer from that.
Andy O'Brien: Okay, Bob. It's Andy here. I'll start with the maybe the first part of that question on pricing. I'm looking forward to reading your report on this because you can probably teach us a thing or two as well. Maybe I'll describe it from sort of our perspective from ConocoPhillips, and hopefully, that's helpful. I'll have Ryan maybe talk about the other parts of your question. So in terms of sort of, I think it might be easier if I answer your question from the pricing, really from our portfolio perspective, and then you can infer from that.
Speaker #6: But maybe I'll describe it from sort of our perspective, from ConocoPhillips, and hopefully that's helpful. I'll let Ryan maybe talk about the other parts of your question.
Speaker #6: So, in terms of sort of—and I think it might be—if I answer your question from the pricing, really from our portfolio perspective, then you can sort of infer from that.
Speaker #6: When you think about our portfolio, we're in a situation where about 40% of our crude volume is linked to either Alaska or international price markers.
Andy O'Brien: You know, when you think about our portfolio, you know, we're in a situation where about 40% of our crude volume is linked to either Alaska or international price markers. Conveniently, that's split pretty equally between the two. Specifically to how what we're linked to and how the pricing works, you know, the international crude oil volumes, you know, they're mainly linked to Dated Brent pricing, which you've been seeing, we're all, I think everyone's now talking about Dated and ICE like we, you know, haven't done in a long time. You're seeing how Dated Brent has been trading at a premium to ICE. More the physical to ICE.
Andy O'Brien: You know, when you think about our portfolio, you know, we're in a situation where about 40% of our crude volume is linked to either Alaska or international price markers. Conveniently, that's split pretty equally between the two. Specifically to how what we're linked to and how the pricing works, you know, the international crude oil volumes, you know, they're mainly linked to Dated Brent pricing, which you've been seeing, we're all, I think everyone's now talking about Dated and ICE like we, you know, haven't done in a long time. You're seeing how Dated Brent has been trading at a premium to ICE. More the physical to ICE.
Speaker #6: And conveniently, that's split pretty equally between the two. And then, specifically to how and what we're linked to, and how the pricing works, the international crude oil volumes are mainly linked to date-rented pricing.
Speaker #6: Which you've been seeing we're all I think everyone's now talking about dated and iced like we haven't done in a long time. But you're seeing basically how the dated rent basically has been trading at a premium to ice.
Speaker #6: So, the more the physical to the ICE. Now, on the ANS side of things for us, ANS is effectively priced off of ICE Dated Brent.
Andy O'Brien: Now on the ANS side of things for us, you know, ANS is effectively priced off of ICE Brent. We basically have a bit of a, you know, of a 50/50 split between the two, but with a lot of Brent leverage. You know, specifically to your question around then, you know, you do see a, you know, a bit of a lag basically in terms of when do you see the cash versus when do you see the earnings, you know, related to these things. You know, you'll see it flow through the earnings first, obviously, you know, with the lag basically in timing of when the cash actually comes in. No, that varies basically market to market for us.
Andy O'Brien: Now on the ANS side of things for us, you know, ANS is effectively priced off of ICE Brent. We basically have a bit of a, you know, of a 50/50 split between the two, but with a lot of Brent leverage. You know, specifically to your question around then, you know, you do see a, you know, a bit of a lag basically in terms of when do you see the cash versus when do you see the earnings, you know, related to these things. You know, you'll see it flow through the earnings first, obviously, you know, with the lag basically in timing of when the cash actually comes in. No, that varies basically market to market for us.
Speaker #6: So, we basically have a bit of a 50/50 split between the two, but with a lot of rent leverage. And then, specifically to your question around that, you do see a bit of a lag, basically, in terms of when you see the cash versus when you see the earnings related to these things.
Speaker #6: So you'll see it flow through the earnings first, obviously, but with the lag, basically in timing, of when the cash actually comes in. And that varies, basically, market to market for us.
Speaker #6: But you'll start to see sort of the cash more meaningfully come in sort of a month or so later. So that hopefully helps sort of explain our exposure to sort of it and sort of maybe helps you sort of understand sort of how the importance of whether we're on dated or whether we're on ice.
Andy O'Brien: You know, you'll start to see sort of the cash more meaningfully come in sort of, you know, a month or so later. That hopefully helps to explain our exposure to sort of it and sort of maybe helps you sort of understand sort of how the importance of whether we're on dated or whether we're on ICE. I am going to take an opportunity while you ask the question. I think there's another point that sometimes gets lost in all of this this quarter. Yes, we've got that global exposure, and that's really important. I also want to sort of just mention on our realizations that, you know, we have a large Lower 48 component as well, which is obviously priced off the WTI.
Andy O'Brien: You know, you'll start to see sort of the cash more meaningfully come in sort of, you know, a month or so later. That hopefully helps to explain our exposure to sort of it and sort of maybe helps you sort of understand sort of how the importance of whether we're on dated or whether we're on ICE. I am going to take an opportunity while you ask the question. I think there's another point that sometimes gets lost in all of this this quarter. Yes, we've got that global exposure, and that's really important. I also want to sort of just mention on our realizations that, you know, we have a large Lower 48 component as well, which is obviously priced off the WTI.
Speaker #6: But I am going to take an opportunity while you ask the question, because I think there's another point that sometimes gets lost in all of this quarter.
Speaker #6: But yes, we've got that global exposure, and that's really important. But I also want to just mention, on our realizations, that we have a large Lower 48 component as well, which is obviously priced off the WTI.
Speaker #6: And we were really pleased with the realizations we were getting on our WTI. I think we had about a 98% realization this quarter, and that might get a bit lost when you look at our total company realization when it all gets mixed together.
Andy O'Brien: You know, we were really pleased with the realizations we were getting on our WTI. I think we had about a 98% realization this quarter. That might get a bit lost when you look at our total company realization when it all gets mixed together. When you mix it all together, you had 3 or 4 things happening with, you saw the WTI to Brent diff really expand out to about $9 a barrel. Obviously you've got the timing of the sales that we have in places like Norway. It is, you know, it is a pretty complicated set of moving parts right now.
Andy O'Brien: You know, we were really pleased with the realizations we were getting on our WTI. I think we had about a 98% realization this quarter. That might get a bit lost when you look at our total company realization when it all gets mixed together. When you mix it all together, you had 3 or 4 things happening with, you saw the WTI to Brent diff really expand out to about $9 a barrel. Obviously you've got the timing of the sales that we have in places like Norway. It is, you know, it is a pretty complicated set of moving parts right now.
Speaker #6: Because when you mix it all together, you had three or four things happening where you saw the WTI to Brent diff really, really expand out to about $9 a barrel.
Speaker #6: And then, obviously, you've got the timing of the sales that we have in places like Norway. But it is a pretty complicated set of moving parts right now.
Speaker #6: And there's going to be some timing between cash and earnings that are going to take a month or two to sort of all start to line back up.
Andy O'Brien: You know, there's going to be some timings between cash and earnings that are going to take a, I don't know, a month or 2 to sort of all start to line back up.
Andy O'Brien: You know, there's going to be some timings between cash and earnings that are going to take a, I don't know, a month or 2 to sort of all start to line back up.
Speaker #7: And on your second part, Bob, I assume what you're talking about is the subsurface impacts to shut-in. And I guess some of our experience would be, we don't have direct experience with a lot of the Middle Eastern assets—Saudi and UAE and others.
Ryan Lance: On your second part, Bob, I assume what you're talking about is the subsurface impacts to shut in. I guess some of our experience would be don't have direct experience with a lot of the Middle Eastern assets, Saudi and UAE and others, but probably similar to what we have on the North Slope, very large, productive, high-porosity, high-permeability assets like that. We wouldn't expect a whole lot of problem with them coming back to. It would be a wrap-up period, but coming back to pretty much full capacity minus any surface constraints or issues that were created as a result of damage that they might have above ground. In some of these, you know, you have to ask here, are they keeping the water flood going while they're shutting in?
Ryan Lance: On your second part, Bob, I assume what you're talking about is the subsurface impacts to shut in. I guess some of our experience would be don't have direct experience with a lot of the Middle Eastern assets, Saudi and UAE and others, but probably similar to what we have on the North Slope, very large, productive, high-porosity, high-permeability assets like that. We wouldn't expect a whole lot of problem with them coming back to. It would be a wrap-up period, but coming back to pretty much full capacity minus any surface constraints or issues that were created as a result of damage that they might have above ground. In some of these, you know, you have to ask here, are they keeping the water flood going while they're shutting in?
Speaker #7: But probably similar to what we have on the north slope, very large productive high porosity, high permeability assets like that. We wouldn't expect a whole lot of problem with them coming back to it'd be a wrap-up period becoming back to pretty much full capacity minus any surface constraints or issues that were created as a result of damage that they might have above ground.
Speaker #7: But in some of these, you have to ask here, are they keeping the waterflood going while they're shutting in? If that's the case, they're probably building pressure.
Ryan Lance: If that's the case, they're probably building pressure, and you probably get some flush production. It's probably a very, very high-level answer to your question, but I wouldn't expect a huge supply impact as they bring back on these fields or damage to the subsurface.
Ryan Lance: If that's the case, they're probably building pressure, and you probably get some flush production. It's probably a very, very high-level answer to your question, but I wouldn't expect a huge supply impact as they bring back on these fields or damage to the subsurface.
Speaker #7: And you probably get some flush production. So it's probably a very, very high-level answer to your question. But I wouldn't expect a huge supply impact as they bring back on these fields.
Speaker #7: Or damage to the subsurface.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Josh Silverstein from UBS. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Josh Silverstein from UBS. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Josh Silverstein from UBS. Your line is now open.
Speaker #8: I thank everyone. I wanted to get an M&A update from you guys, maybe more from a divestiture angle. I know you guys are very resource-rich, as you mentioned.
Josh Silverstein: Thanks, everyone. I wanted to get an M&A update from you guys, maybe more from a divestiture angle. You know, I know you guys are very resource rich, as you mentioned, and you do have an ongoing divestiture program. I was just curious if these non-core assets are you seeing strengthening valuations for these right now, given the higher pricing? Does it make you wanna be more aggressive in selling assets into this market? Then maybe just an update as to how you're thinking about, you know, the Port Arthur phase one, you know, equity stake that you have in there on the divestiture front. Thanks.
Josh Silverstein: Thanks, everyone. I wanted to get an M&A update from you guys, maybe more from a divestiture angle. You know, I know you guys are very resource rich, as you mentioned, and you do have an ongoing divestiture program. I was just curious if these non-core assets are you seeing strengthening valuations for these right now, given the higher pricing? Does it make you wanna be more aggressive in selling assets into this market? Then maybe just an update as to how you're thinking about, you know, the Port Arthur phase one, you know, equity stake that you have in there on the divestiture front. Thanks.
Speaker #8: And you do have an ongoing divestiture program. I was just curious, with these non-core assets, are you seeing strengthening valuations for these right now, given the higher pricing?
Speaker #8: Does it make you want to be more aggressive in selling assets into this market? And then maybe just an update as to how you're thinking about the part of their Phase One equity stake that you have in there on the divestiture front.
Speaker #8: Thanks.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Morning. I can take that question. So, it's probably worth just putting our divestiture program that we've announced in context. We'd announced a $5 billion program, and $3 billion of that's already behind us.
Andy O'Brien: Yeah. Morning. I can take that question. You know, probably worth just putting our divestiture program that we've announced sort of in context. You know, we'd announced a $5 billion program, and $3 billion of that's already behind us. There's about $2 billion of the program that's to go. I would really very much put this in sort of the business as usual for us. I think it's, you know, I think it's out there in the public markets and being talked about a lot. You know, we do have, you know, data room open in the Permian right now, you know, we've got a couple of, you know, packages in that. You know, it's really important when we think about this.
Andy O'Brien: Yeah. Morning. I can take that question. You know, probably worth just putting our divestiture program that we've announced sort of in context. You know, we'd announced a $5 billion program, and $3 billion of that's already behind us. There's about $2 billion of the program that's to go. I would really very much put this in sort of the business as usual for us. I think it's, you know, I think it's out there in the public markets and being talked about a lot. You know, we do have, you know, data room open in the Permian right now, you know, we've got a couple of, you know, packages in that. You know, it's really important when we think about this.
Speaker #3: So there's about $2 billion of the program that's to go. And I would really, very much, put this in sort of the business-as-usual for us.
Speaker #3: I think it's—I'll say it because I think it's out there in the public markets and being talked about a lot. We do have a data room open in the Permian right now.
Speaker #3: And we've got a couple of packages in that. But it's really important, when we think about this, it's not—the Permian's not one sort of big thing.
Andy O'Brien: The Permian is not one sort of big thing. You know, it's a collection of assets within a basin. You know, these are assets that we would consider within the Permian that are, you know, non-core to us, probably something that we wouldn't get to in, you know, in 10 to 15 years, given the depth of our inventory. Of course, yeah, we are seeing sort of a lot of interest in that. You know, I think it's very important to sort of emphasize, and I think our track record will show this, that, you know, we are not gonna be schedule driven by this. We won't sell anything that we're not getting full value for.
Andy O'Brien: The Permian is not one sort of big thing. You know, it's a collection of assets within a basin. You know, these are assets that we would consider within the Permian that are, you know, non-core to us, probably something that we wouldn't get to in, you know, in 10 to 15 years, given the depth of our inventory. Of course, yeah, we are seeing sort of a lot of interest in that. You know, I think it's very important to sort of emphasize, and I think our track record will show this, that, you know, we are not gonna be schedule driven by this. We won't sell anything that we're not getting full value for.
Speaker #3: It's a collection of assets within a basin. And these are assets that we would consider within the Permian that are non-core to us. Probably something that we wouldn't get to in 10 to 15 years, given the depth of our inventory.
Speaker #3: And, of course, yeah, we are seeing sort of a lot of interest in that. But I think it's very, very important to sort of emphasize—and I think our track record will show this—that we are not going to be schedule-driven by this.
Speaker #3: This will be, and we won't sell anything that we're not getting full value for. So we'll go through a process, and if we get offers for full value for non-core assets that we're not going to develop for a while, we'll certainly take a look at it.
Andy O'Brien: You know, we'll go through a process, and if we get, you know, offers for full value for non-core assets that, you know, we're not gonna develop for a while, we'll certainly take a look at it. But it's, you know, it's very much around the edges and just the usual portfolio type cleanup work that we, that we always do. And then to the last part of your question on, you know, Port Arthur phase one, you know, we're kind of in a perfect situation here where we certainly don't need to sell anything. That asset is being de-risked every day, as it comes closer to first production. And, you know, we'll have that asset online in, you know, in 2027, so, you know, we can't wait to see that happen.
Andy O'Brien: You know, we'll go through a process, and if we get, you know, offers for full value for non-core assets that, you know, we're not gonna develop for a while, we'll certainly take a look at it. But it's, you know, it's very much around the edges and just the usual portfolio type cleanup work that we, that we always do. And then to the last part of your question on, you know, Port Arthur phase one, you know, we're kind of in a perfect situation here where we certainly don't need to sell anything. That asset is being de-risked every day, as it comes closer to first production. And, you know, we'll have that asset online in, you know, in 2027, so, you know, we can't wait to see that happen.
Speaker #3: But it's very much around the edges and just sort of usual portfolio-type cleanup work that we always do. And then to the last part of your question on Port Arthur Phase One, we're kind of in a perfect situation here where we certainly don't need to sell anything.
Speaker #3: That asset is being de-risked every day as it comes closer to first production. And we'll have that asset online in 2027. So, we can't wait to see that happen.
Speaker #3: And I think everything that's happened in the Middle East has just re-emphasized the importance of having these secure assets that we have in our portfolio.
Andy O'Brien: I think everything that's happened in the Middle East has just reemphasized sort of the, you know, the importance of having these secure assets that we have, in our portfolio. You know, maybe a day will come in the future where, you know, it, you know, we get an offer that basically, you know, it fits into sort of a, an infrastructure type investment. We're certainly, you know, under sort of no need to basically sell that asset, and I can't really see why we would contemplate that while it's still under construction. We'd rather get it on and, you know, maybe in the future, you know, it, it isn't core, but nothing there that I would say that we're not happy with.
Andy O'Brien: I think everything that's happened in the Middle East has just reemphasized sort of the, you know, the importance of having these secure assets that we have, in our portfolio. You know, maybe a day will come in the future where, you know, it, you know, we get an offer that basically, you know, it fits into sort of a, an infrastructure type investment. We're certainly, you know, under sort of no need to basically sell that asset, and I can't really see why we would contemplate that while it's still under construction. We'd rather get it on and, you know, maybe in the future, you know, it, it isn't core, but nothing there that I would say that we're not happy with.
Speaker #3: So maybe a day will come in the future where we get an offer that basically fits into sort of an infrastructure-type investment. But we're certainly under sort of no need to basically sell that asset.
Speaker #3: And I can't really see why we would contemplate that while it's still under construction. We'd rather get it on, and maybe in the future it isn't core, but there's nothing there that I would say that we're not happy with.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Philip Youngworth from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Phillip Jungwirth from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Phillip Jungwirth from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Speaker #8: Thanks. Your Motney position has a lot of resource, and you've had better results than some of the offset operators up there. Just wondering, what's the appetite or valuation creation opportunity to add to this liquids-rich position?
Phillip Jungwirth: Thanks. Your Montney position has a lot of resource, and you've had better results than some of the offset operators up there. Just wondering what's the appetite or value creation opportunity to
Phillip Jungwirth: Thanks. Your Montney position has a lot of resource, and you've had better results than some of the offset operators up there. Just wondering what's the appetite or value creation opportunity to add to this liquids rich position, where others might not have the same technical understanding or operational capabilities. Separately, could Canada at all fit into the LNG offtake strategy if you were to target the high end of 10 to 15 MTPA?
Phillip Jungwirth: To add to this liquids rich position, where others might not have the same technical understanding or operational capabilities. Separately, could Canada at all fit into the LNG offtake strategy if you were to target the high end of 10 to 15 MTPA?
Speaker #8: Where others might not have the same technical understanding or operational capabilities. And separately, could Canada at all fit into the LNG offtake strategy if you were to target the high end of 10 to 15 MTPA?
Speaker #7: Yeah. Morning, Philip. Appreciate the question on Motney. We've been continuing to see some really strong performance, certainly as you highlight, coming out of our Motney asset.
Kirk Johnson: Morning, Phillip. Appreciate the question on Montney. We've been continuing to see some really strong performance, and certainly as you highlight, coming out of our Montney asset. We've been progressing this in a very disciplined and deliberate manner. And while we're out of the appraisal phase, we are admittedly still in what we would describe as early development. Actively optimizing our plans and incorporating all of the learnings that are really quite unique to the basin. And as well as all of the optimizations that we're able to reap from our mature and very distinguished position here in the Lower 48. We've been running roughly 1 rig and expect to continue in a very similar pace and fashion.
Kirk Johnson: Morning, Phillip. Appreciate the question on Montney. We've been continuing to see some really strong performance, and certainly as you highlight, coming out of our Montney asset. We've been progressing this in a very disciplined and deliberate manner. And while we're out of the appraisal phase, we are admittedly still in what we would describe as early development. Actively optimizing our plans and incorporating all of the learnings that are really quite unique to the basin. And as well as all of the optimizations that we're able to reap from our mature and very distinguished position here in the Lower 48. We've been running roughly 1 rig and expect to continue in a very similar pace and fashion.
Speaker #7: But we've been progressing this in a very disciplined and deliberate manner. And while we're out of the appraisal phase, we are, admittedly, still in what we would describe as early development—actively optimizing our plans and incorporating all of the learnings that are really quite unique to the basin.
Speaker #7: And, as well as all of the optimizations that we're able to reap from our mature and very distinguished position here in the Lower 48.
Speaker #7: We've been running roughly one rig and expect to continue at a very similar pace and fashion because, again, certainly as we've experienced in the Lower 48, when we naturally pair up really strong crews—whether it be drilling and completions with each other—we too are seeing some really strong performance across the two.
Kirk Johnson: Again, certainly as we've experienced in the Lower 48, when we naturally pair up really strong crews, whether it be drilling and completions with each other, we too are seeing some really strong performance across the two. We like the performance again, because it is so strong liquids. We're roughly 50% liquids, with a couple streams there between NGLs and then condensate and crude. We're able to take advantage within that liquids market of each one of those. It's a very competitive resource. Naturally, we do in fact, because we have such a strong position and we've been seeing such good performance, we're watching the opportunities.
Kirk Johnson: Again, certainly as we've experienced in the Lower 48, when we naturally pair up really strong crews, whether it be drilling and completions with each other, we too are seeing some really strong performance across the two. We like the performance again, because it is so strong liquids. We're roughly 50% liquids, with a couple streams there between NGLs and then condensate and crude. We're able to take advantage within that liquids market of each one of those. It's a very competitive resource. Naturally, we do in fact, because we have such a strong position and we've been seeing such good performance, we're watching the opportunities.
Speaker #7: And we like the performance again because it is so strong liquids. We're roughly 50% liquids, with a couple of streams there between NGLs and then condensate and crude.
Speaker #7: And we're able to take advantage within that liquids market of each one of those. And so it's a very competitive resource. Naturally, we do, in fact, because we have such a strong position and we've been seeing such good performance.
Speaker #7: We're watching the opportunities. We watched the landscape, but certainly as it relates to M&A or BD work, we'll be smart about this, and if we see there's an opportunity that creates a lot of synergies for us naturally, we'd entertain that.
Kirk Johnson: We watch the landscape, but certainly as it relates to M&A or BD work, you know, we'll be smart about this. If we see there's an opportunity that creates a lot of synergies for us, naturally we'd entertain that. Of course, on the gas side, you know, because we are so dominant in the liquids position, that this is not a major driver for us. In fact, we're naturally hedged to some degree, because we use fuel gas. We use the gas directly associated with Surmont and our operations there in the oil sand. I would say we're encouraged to hear that there are plans for the next phase of LNG offtake coming out of Canada.
Kirk Johnson: We watch the landscape, but certainly as it relates to M&A or BD work, you know, we'll be smart about this. If we see there's an opportunity that creates a lot of synergies for us, naturally we'd entertain that. Of course, on the gas side, you know, because we are so dominant in the liquids position, that this is not a major driver for us. In fact, we're naturally hedged to some degree, because we use fuel gas. We use the gas directly associated with Surmont and our operations there in the oil sand. I would say we're encouraged to hear that there are plans for the next phase of LNG offtake coming out of Canada.
Speaker #7: And then, of course, on the gas side, because we are so dominant in the liquids position, this is not a major driver for us.
Speaker #7: And in fact, we're naturally hedged to some degree because we use fuel associated with Surmont in our operations there in the oil sands. So I would say we're encouraged to hear that there are plans for the next phase of LNG offtake coming out of Canada.
Speaker #7: We'd like to see Canada bringing much more scope and scale at a better pace there. And so I would just say our growth plans are certainly dependent on offtake to get very aggressive in the Montney with our own development plans. We're going to need to see a call on those barrels and on that gas, and more offtake coming out of B.C.
Kirk Johnson: We'd like to see Canada bringing much more scope and scale at a better pace there. I would just say our growth plans are certainly dependent on offtake to get very aggressive in the Montney with our own development plans are going to need to see a call on those barrels and on that gas, and more offtake coming out of BC. Again, I would just say this is something for us to watch carefully and we'd like to see some more progress by those who are maturing those projects.
Kirk Johnson: We'd like to see Canada bringing much more scope and scale at a better pace there. I would just say our growth plans are certainly dependent on offtake to get very aggressive in the Montney with our own development plans are going to need to see a call on those barrels and on that gas, and more offtake coming out of BC. Again, I would just say this is something for us to watch carefully and we'd like to see some more progress by those who are maturing those projects.
Speaker #7: So again, I would just say this is something for us to watch carefully, and we'd like to see some more progress by those who are maturing those projects.
Speaker #3: Maybe I'll just quickly jump in there as well. Very directly, from a commercial LNG perspective, we'd be very happy to have a bit more offtake on the West Coast.
Andy O'Brien: Maybe I'll just quickly jump in there as well. Very directly from a commercial LNG perspective, you know, we'd be very happy to have a bit more offtake on the West Coast. But just like our E&P portfolio, we know cost of supply, liquefaction fees basically drives everything. As we look at it, you know, if there's competitive liquefaction fees, you know, from expansions that happen and new projects in Canada, we'd certainly wanna take a look at that, just like we'd like to look at, you know, offtake from many other locations. Yeah, you know, I think having some West Coast offtake wouldn't be a bad thing in our portfolio.
Andy O'Brien: Maybe I'll just quickly jump in there as well. Very directly from a commercial LNG perspective, you know, we'd be very happy to have a bit more offtake on the West Coast. But just like our E&P portfolio, we know cost of supply, liquefaction fees basically drives everything. As we look at it, you know, if there's competitive liquefaction fees, you know, from expansions that happen and new projects in Canada, we'd certainly wanna take a look at that, just like we'd like to look at, you know, offtake from many other locations. Yeah, you know, I think having some West Coast offtake wouldn't be a bad thing in our portfolio.
Speaker #3: But just like the E&P portfolio, we call to supply. Liquefaction fees basically drive everything. And as we look at it, if there are competitive liquefaction fees from expansions that happen and new projects in Canada, we'd certainly want to take a look at that, just like we'd take a look at offtake from many other locations.
Speaker #3: So yeah, I think having some West Coast offtake wouldn't be a bad thing in our portfolio.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Alistair Syme from Citi. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Alastair Syme from Citi. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Alastair Syme from Citi. Your line is now open.
Speaker #4: Thank you very much. I wonder if I can get you to talk to the attractiveness of incremental capital in the Delaware versus refrac opportunities in the Eagle Ford.
Alastair Syme: Thank you very much. I wonder if I can get you to talk to the attractiveness of incremental capital of the Delaware versus refrac opportunities in the Eagle Ford. How would you compare and contrast those? Thank you.
Alastair Syme: Thank you very much. I wonder if I can get you to talk to the attractiveness of incremental capital of the Delaware versus refrac opportunities in the Eagle Ford. How would you compare and contrast those? Thank you.
Speaker #4: How would you compare and contrast those? Thank you.
Speaker #7: Yes. So if you look at the Delaware and the Eagle Ford, they're obviously quite different. But on the refracs in the Eagle Ford, we do typically do 50 or 60 in a year.
Nick Olds: Yes. If you look at the Delaware and the Eagle Ford, they're obviously quite different. On the refracs in the Eagle Ford, we do typically do 50 or 60 in a year. You can execute one for about 60% of a development well and get a 60% uplift on that original completion on your EUR. In that case, you're looking at kind of mid USD 30 cost of supply to upper USD 30 for refracs. You go to the Delaware, which is some of our lower cost of supply, you're executing currently kind of the low USD 30s to mid-USD 30s. From an overall, Delaware will have a stronger overall return than a refrac, but they're very, very close.
Nick Olds: Yes. If you look at the Delaware and the Eagle Ford, they're obviously quite different. On the refracs in the Eagle Ford, we do typically do 50 or 60 in a year. You can execute one for about 60% of a development well and get a 60% uplift on that original completion on your EUR. In that case, you're looking at kind of mid USD 30 cost of supply to upper USD 30 for refracs. You go to the Delaware, which is some of our lower cost of supply, you're executing currently kind of the low USD 30s to mid-USD 30s. From an overall, Delaware will have a stronger overall return than a refrac, but they're very, very close.
Speaker #7: You can think about, you can execute one for about 60% of a development well and get a 60% uplift on that original completion on your EOR.
Speaker #7: So, in that case, you're looking at kind of mid-$30 cost to supply to upper $34 REFRACs. If you then go to the Delaware, which is some of our lower cost to supply, you're executing currently kind of the low $30s to mid-$30s.
Speaker #7: So from an overall Delaware, we'll have a stronger overall return than a refrac. But they're very, very close. We're talking probably $2 to $5 of cost supply difference.
Nick Olds: We're talking probably $2 to 5 of cost supply difference. Very competitive in the portfolio between those two opportunity sets.
Nick Olds: We're talking probably $2 to 5 of cost supply difference. Very competitive in the portfolio between those two opportunity sets.
Speaker #7: So, very competitive in the portfolio between those two opportunity sets.
Speaker #1: Our last question comes from Kevin McCurdy from Pickering Energy Partners. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our last question comes from Kevin MacCurdy from Pickering Energy Partners. Your line is now open.
Operator: Our last question comes from Kevin MacCurdy from Pickering Energy Partners. Your line is now open.
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning. Looking at the updated capital program this year—you addressed the Permian activity earlier. But on slide five of your deck, you show some potential variance in regard to the macro Middle East uncertainty.
Kevin MacCurdy: Hey, good morning. Looking at the updated capital program this year, you addressed the Permian activity earlier, but on slide five of your deck, you show some, a potential variance in regard to the macro Middle East uncertainty. Can you expand on that a little bit? Would this just be deferred Middle East spending, or are there any other considerations represented in that chart?
Kevin MacCurdy: Hey, good morning. Looking at the updated capital program this year, you addressed the Permian activity earlier, but on slide five of your deck, you show some, a potential variance in regard to the macro Middle East uncertainty. Can you expand on that a little bit? Would this just be deferred Middle East spending, or are there any other considerations represented in that chart?
Speaker #4: Can you expand on that a little bit? Would this just be deferred Middle East spending, or are there any other considerations represented in that chart?
Speaker #3: Yeah. I think the predominantly, I think as Kirk's covered and I've covered earlier, it's really a range of uncertainty on what happens with NFE and NFS capital during the year.
Andy O'Brien: Yeah, I think, you know, predominantly, I think as Kirk's covered and I've covered earlier, you know, it's really a range of uncertainty on what, you know, what happens with NFE and NFS capital during the year. I think Nick also covered one of the other uncertainties, and Ryan covered that we don't know exactly what's going to happen on the non-operated side in the Lower 48. We're not going to, as we described, we're not going to put ourselves in a situation where if we get balloted that we won't participate in low-cost supply projects. I would just take it as a general uncertainty bar right now in a very uncertain world, basically.
Andy O'Brien: Yeah, I think, you know, predominantly, I think as Kirk's covered and I've covered earlier, you know, it's really a range of uncertainty on what, you know, what happens with NFE and NFS capital during the year. I think Nick also covered one of the other uncertainties, and Ryan covered that we don't know exactly what's going to happen on the non-operated side in the Lower 48. We're not going to, as we described, we're not going to put ourselves in a situation where if we get balloted that we won't participate in low-cost supply projects. I would just take it as a general uncertainty bar right now in a very uncertain world, basically.
Speaker #3: I think Nick also covered one of the other uncertainties and Ryan covered that we don't know exactly what's going to happen on the non-operated side in the lower 48.
Speaker #3: But we're not going to as we described, we're not going to put ourselves in a situation where if we get balloted that we won't participate in low-cost supply projects.
Speaker #3: So I would just take it as a general uncertainty bar right now, in a very uncertain world, basically.
Operator: Thank you. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Thank you. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.