Q1 2026 Bimini Capital Management Inc Earnings Call

May 8, 2026

Operator: Hello, welcome to Bimini Capital Management Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. I would now like to hand the conference over to Melissa Alfonso. You may begin.

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Speaker #2: Thank you, Tawanda. Good morning, and welcome to the first quarter 2026 earnings conference call for BIMINI CAPITAL MANAGEMENT. This call is being recorded today, May 8th, 2026.

Melissa Alfonso: Thank you, Tawanda. Good morning, welcome to the Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call for Bimini Capital Management. This call is being recorded today, 8 May 2026. At this time, the company would like to remind the listeners that statements made during today's conference call relating to matters that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements subject to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Listeners are cautioned that such forward-looking statements are based on information currently available on the management's good faith belief with respect to future events and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual performance or results to differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: At this time, the company would like to remind the listeners that statements made during today's conference call relating to matters that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements subject to the Safe Harbor Provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Speaker #2: Listeners are cautioned that such forward-looking statements are based on information currently available on the management's good faith, belief with respect to future events, and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual performance or results to differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements.

Melissa Alfonso: Important factors that could cause such differences are described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company's most recent annual report on Form 10-K. The company assumes no obligation to update such forward-looking statements to reflect actual results, changes in assumptions, or changes in other factors affecting forward-looking statements. Now, I'd like to turn the conference over to the company's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Robert E. Cauley. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker #2: Important factors that could cause such differences are described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company's most recent annual report on Form 10-K.

Speaker #2: The company assumes no obligation to update such forward-looking statements to reflect actual results, changes in assumptions, or changes in other factors affecting forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: Now, I'd like to turn the conference over to the company's chairman and chief executive officer, Mr. Robert Coley. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Melissa, and good morning. Thank you for joining us today. Hopefully, you've had a chance to look at the short deck that we've put out on our website.

Robert E. Cauley: Thanks, Melissa, good morning, and thank you for joining us today. Hopefully, you've had a chance to look at the short deck that we've put out on our website. We will be referring to that later on the call. Today, we are joined on our call by Richard H. Parry, the President and CIO of Tom Johnson Investment Management or TJIM, as we refer to it. Recall, we closed on our purchase of an 80% ownership stake on 1 April 2026. After we discuss our results for the quarter and provide a brief overview of our outlook on the market and our existing business, we will have Richard provide an introduction to our shareholders and tell us a little more about TJIM.

Robert Cauley: Thanks, Melissa, good morning, and thank you for joining us today. Hopefully, you've had a chance to look at the short deck that we've put out on our website. We will be referring to that later on the call. Today, we are joined on our call by Richard H. Parry, the President and CIO of Tom Johnson Investment Management or TJIM, as we refer to it. Recall, we closed on our purchase of an 80% ownership stake on 1 April 2026. After we discuss our results for the quarter and provide a brief overview of our outlook on the market and our existing business, we will have Richard provide an introduction to our shareholders and tell us a little more about TJIM.

Speaker #3: We will be referring to that later on the call. Today, we are joined on our call by Richard Perry, the president and CIO of Tom Johnson Investment Management, or TGIM, as we refer to it.

Speaker #3: Recall we closed on our purchase of an 80% ownership stake on April 1st, 2026. After we discussed our results for the quarter, and provide a brief overview of our outlook on the market and our existing business, we will have Richard provide an introduction to our shareholders and tell us a little more about TGIM.

Speaker #3: Regarding our results for the quarter, uneven market conditions for the agency RMBS market caused Orchid Island Capital or Orchid and BIMINI's investment portfolio segment to report modest losses for the quarter.

Robert E. Cauley: Regarding our results for the quarter, uneven market conditions for the agency RMBS market caused Orchid Island Capital or Orchid and Bimini's investment portfolio segment to report modest losses for the quarter. As we know, the war in Iran, which broke out on 28 February, caused severe disruption to the market in its immediate aftermath. Markets have calmed down considerably since, the initial market reactions were sufficient to cause our results for the quarter to be slightly negative. Orchid reported a net loss of $20.2 million or $0.11 per share for Q1 of 2026. Bimini's investment portfolio segment generated a net loss of $0.7 million for the quarter.

Robert Cauley: Regarding our results for the quarter, uneven market conditions for the agency RMBS market caused Orchid Island Capital or Orchid and Bimini's investment portfolio segment to report modest losses for the quarter. As we know, the war in Iran, which broke out on 28 February 2026, caused severe disruption to the market in its immediate aftermath. Markets have calmed down considerably since, the initial market reactions were sufficient to cause our results for the quarter to be slightly negative. Orchid reported a net loss of $20.2 million or $0.11 per share for Q1 of 2026. Bimini's investment portfolio segment generated a net loss of $0.7 million for the quarter.

Speaker #3: As we know, the war in Iran, which broke out on February 28, caused severe market disruptions, or caused severe disruption to the market in its immediate aftermath.

Speaker #3: Markets have calmed down considerably. Market reactions were very—or sufficient to cause our results for the quarter to be slightly negative. Orchid reported a net loss of $20.2 million, or $0.11 per share, for the first quarter of 2026.

Speaker #3: And BIMINI's investment portfolio, segment, generated a net loss of 0.7 million for the quarter. Orchid was able to continue to expand its quarterly equity base, however, and its stockholders' equity increased from 1.372 billion at December 31st, 2025, to 1.392 billion at March 31st, 2026.

Robert E. Cauley: Orchid was able to continue to expand its core equity base, however, and its stockholders' equity increased from $1.372 billion at 31 December 2025 to $1.392 billion at 31 March 2026. As a result, Bimini's advisory service revenue also increased to $5.1 million in Q1 compared to $4.7 million for the Q4 of 2025. The Advisory Service segment generated net income for the Q1 of $2.25 million, and Bimini's consolidated income for the Q1 was $0.8 million or $0.08 per share. So far in the Q2 of 2026, market conditions for levered agency RMBS investing have improved, reversing some, but not all, the losses we sustained during the Q1.

Robert Cauley: Orchid was able to continue to expand its core equity base, however, and its stockholders' equity increased from $1.372 billion at 31 December 2025 to $1.392 billion at 31 March 2026. As a result, Bimini's advisory service revenue also increased to $5.1 million in Q1 compared to $4.7 million for the Q4 of 2025. The Advisory Service segment generated net income for the Q1 of $2.25 million, and Bimini's consolidated income for the Q1 was $0.8 million or $0.08 per share. So far in the Q2 of 2026, market conditions for levered agency RMBS investing have improved, reversing some, but not all, the losses we sustained during the Q1.

Speaker #3: As a result, BIMINI's advisory service revenue also increased to 5.1 million in Q1 compared to 4.7 million for the fourth quarter of 2025. The advisory service segment generated net income for the first quarter of 2.25 million and BIMINI's consolidated income for the first quarter was 0.8 million or 8 cents per share.

Speaker #3: So far in the second quarter of 2026, market conditions for leveraged agency RMBS investing have improved, reversing some, but not all, of the losses we sustained during the first quarter.

Speaker #3: Regarding market conditions during the first quarter of 2026, the fixed income markets experienced a period of calm as 2025 came to a close and we entered 2026.

Robert E. Cauley: Regarding market conditions during Q1 of 2026, the fixed income markets experienced a period of calm as 2025 came to a close and we entered 2026. Interest rates were in a very tight range. Implied interest rate volatility had continued the steady decline that began in April 2025, and agency RMBS performed well during the first 2 months of Q1 of 2026. Other sectors of the fixed income markets performed well over this period as well. Spreads on investment-grade corporate bonds reached levels not seen since 1998. As 2026 began, economic activity remained resilient, including the labor market. However, the outlook has since changed after the war broke out in the Middle East. The world's most critical oil and chemical supply region has suffered intense military attacks, leading to supply interruptions.

Robert Cauley: Regarding market conditions during Q1 of 2026, the fixed income markets experienced a period of calm as 2025 came to a close and we entered 2026. Interest rates were in a very tight range. Implied interest rate volatility had continued the steady decline that began in April 2025, and agency RMBS performed well during the first 2 months of Q1 of 2026. Other sectors of the fixed income markets performed well over this period as well. Spreads on investment-grade corporate bonds reached levels not seen since 1998. As 2026 began, economic activity remained resilient, including the labor market. However, the outlook has since changed after the war broke out in the Middle East. The world's most critical oil and chemical supply region has suffered intense military attacks, leading to supply interruptions.

Speaker #3: Interest rates were in a very tight range, implied interest rate volatility had continued, the steady decline that began in April of 2025, and agency RMBS performed well during the first two months of the first quarter of 2026.

Speaker #3: Other sectors of the fixed income markets performed well, over this period as well, and spreads on investment-grade corporate bonds reached levels not seen since 1998.

Speaker #3: As 2026 began, economic activity remained resilient, including the labor market. However, the outlook has since changed after the war broke out in the Middle East.

Speaker #3: The world's most critical oil and chemical supply region has suffered intense military attacks, leading to supply interruptions. Inflation, which was already sticky, may have moved higher and the economic outlook has become very uncertain, as a result of the war, causing growth both in the US and globally to deteriorate.

Robert E. Cauley: Inflation, which was already sticky, may move even higher, and the economic outlook has become very uncertain as a result of the war, causing growth both in the US and globally to deteriorate. The ultimate outcome of the war remains uncertain. To date, the economy in the US has remained resilient, but there is still uncertainty if it can continue to do so. We will see where we stand when we speak again at the end of Q2. Now, I would like to formally introduce Richard H. Parry, President and CIO of TJIM, and provide Richard H. Parry an opportunity to tell us more about TJIM's history, provide an overview of their investment products and their investor base, and finally, give us an update on business so far. Thank you. With that, I'll turn it over to Richard H. Parry. Richard H. Parry, go ahead.

Robert Cauley: Inflation, which was already sticky, may move even higher, and the economic outlook has become very uncertain as a result of the war, causing growth both in the US and globally to deteriorate. The ultimate outcome of the war remains uncertain. To date, the economy in the US has remained resilient, but there is still uncertainty if it can continue to do so. We will see where we stand when we speak again at the end of Q2. Now, I would like to formally introduce Richard H. Parry, President and CIO of TJIM, and provide Richard H. Parry an opportunity to tell us more about TJIM's history, provide an overview of their investment products and their investor base, and finally, give us an update on business so far. Thank you. With that, I'll turn it over to Richard H. Parry. Richard H. Parry, go ahead.

Speaker #3: The ultimate outcome of the war remains uncertain. To date, the economy in the US has remained resilient, but there is still uncertainty. If it can continue to do so, we will see where we stand when we speak again at the end of the second quarter.

Speaker #3: Now, I would like to formally introduce Richard Perry, president and CIO of TGIM, and provide Richard an opportunity to tell us more about TGIM's history, provide an overview of their investment products and their investor base, and finally give us an update on business so far.

Speaker #3: Thank you, and without I'll turn it over to Richard. Richard, go ahead.

Speaker #4: Yes. My name is Richard Perry, and thank you for this opportunity. Bob wanted to have me give you a little background on myself, and then the organization, and then more about the organization's structure.

Richard H. Parry: Yes. My name is Richard Perry, and thank you for this opportunity. Bob wanted to have me give you a little background on myself and then the organization and then more about the organization structure. I grew up in Oklahoma City, went to the University of Colorado, received a Bachelor of Science degree in Business with an emphasis in international finance. I came back to Oklahoma City to work at First National Bank, where I did a brief stint at credit and then audit, external and internal auditing, did some strategic planning for the bank, and then went over to work for the trust investment department, where I worked with Tom Johnson Investment Management. Tom spun off from First National Bank back in 1983.

Richard Parry: Yes. My name is Richard Perry, and thank you for this opportunity. Bob wanted to have me give you a little background on myself and then the organization and then more about the organization structure. I grew up in Oklahoma City, went to the University of Colorado, received a Bachelor of Science degree in Business with an emphasis in international finance. I came back to Oklahoma City to work at First National Bank, where I did a brief stint at credit and then audit, external and internal auditing, did some strategic planning for the bank, and then went over to work for the trust investment department, where I worked with Tom Johnson Investment Management. Tom spun off from First National Bank back in 1983.

Speaker #4: I grew up in Oklahoma City, went to the University of Colorado, received a bachelor of science degree in business with an emphasis in international finance, and I came back to Oklahoma City to work at First National Bank, where I did a brief stint at Credit, and then audit external and internal auditing, did some strategic planning, for the bank, and then went over to work for the Trust Investment Department, where I work with Tom Johnson Investment Management.

Speaker #4: Tom spun off from First National Bank back in 1983. A number of Trust Investment companies did that due to the oil crisis. We did that as well as a lot of other organizations in Texas.

Richard H. Parry: A number of trust investment companies did that due to the oil crisis. We did that as well as a lot of other organizations in Texas because of the oil situation. I became a minority owner with Tom Johnson Investment Management. We sold out to United Asset Management, which was buying up a number of independent organizations like ourselves. They sold to Old Mutual. I bought the firm back in 2003. Our current assets are approximately a little over $1.6 billion. There's some charts here on the website. We're diversified in terms of structure. About 65% of our assets under management are through consultant platforms and brokerage consultants.

Richard Parry: A number of trust investment companies did that due to the oil crisis. We did that as well as a lot of other organizations in Texas because of the oil situation. I became a minority owner with Tom Johnson Investment Management. We sold out to United Asset Management, which was buying up a number of independent organizations like ourselves. They sold to Old Mutual. I bought the firm back in 2003. Our current assets are approximately a little over $1.6 billion. There's some charts here on the website. We're diversified in terms of structure. About 65% of our assets under management are through consultant platforms and brokerage consultants.

Speaker #4: Because of the oil situation, I became a minority owner with Tom Johnson Investment Management. We sold out to United Asset Management, which was buying up a number of independent organizations like ourselves; they sold to Old Mutual, and I bought the firm back in 2003.

Speaker #4: Our current assets are approximately a little over $1.6 billion, and there's some charts here on the website, but we're diversified in terms of structure.

Speaker #4: About 65% of our assets under management are through consultant platforms and brokerage consultants, and then 35% we have a direct relationship with clientele where we're offering investment management services as well as financial planning exercises.

Richard H. Parry: 35% we have a direct relationship with clientele where we're offering investment management services as well as financial planning exercises. We believe that's a healthy degree of diversification. In terms of our product lines, we have 2 separate account management equity portfolios, a relative core value style, and a diversified stock income or yield kind of focused style. We have 4 fixed income products, a fixed income product, an intermediate fixed income. Both are single A or better quality issues at purchase. We have tax-exempt, and then we have a short-term investment fund. Our last one is kind of a very small ETF allocation model that we do for our direct clientele that have very small portfolios like Roths or very small IRAs.

Richard Parry: 35% we have a direct relationship with clientele where we're offering investment management services as well as financial planning exercises. We believe that's a healthy degree of diversification. In terms of our product lines, we have 2 separate account management equity portfolios, a relative core value style, and a diversified stock income or yield kind of focused style. We have 4 fixed income products, a fixed income product, an intermediate fixed income. Both are single A or better quality issues at purchase. We have tax-exempt, and then we have a short-term investment fund. Our last one is kind of a very small ETF allocation model that we do for our direct clientele that have very small portfolios like Roths or very small IRAs.

Speaker #4: We believe that's a healthy degree of diversification. And then in terms of our product lines, we have two separate account management equity portfolios, a relative core value style, and then a diversified stock income or yield kind of focus style.

Speaker #4: And then we have four fixed income products: a fixed income product, an intermediate fixed income, both are single A or better quality issues at purchase, and then we have tax-exempt and then we have a short-term investment fund, and then our last one is kind of a very small ETF allocation model that we do for our direct clientele that have very small portfolios like Roths or very small IRAs.

Richard H. Parry: Anyway, I think that's kind of the exposure or the comments I'd like to make and welcome any questions.

Speaker #4: And anyway, I think that's kind of the exposure or the comments I'd like to make, and welcome any questions.

Richard Parry: Anyway, I think that's kind of the exposure or the comments I'd like to make and welcome any questions.

Speaker #5: Thank you, Richard. Finally, we look forward to discussing TGIM's results for the second quarter of 2026 as part of our quarterly earnings discussion next quarter.

Robert E. Cauley: Thank you, Richard. We look forward to discussing TJIM's results for Q2 2026 as part of our quarterly earnings discussion next quarter. I think that's it. Operator, we can open up the call to questions.

Robert Cauley: Thank you, Richard. We look forward to discussing TJIM's results for Q2 2026 as part of our quarterly earnings discussion next quarter. I think that's it. Operator, we can open up the call to questions.

Speaker #5: I think that's it, operator. We can open up the call to questions.

Speaker #6: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to ask the question. Please press star 11 on your telephone; then wait for your name to be announced.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to ask the question, please press star one one on your telephone, then wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of David Atlas. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of David Atlas.

Speaker #6: Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Hello. Yes. The respondent asked a question that's a little historical at this point—it goes back a few months. Your shareholder rights plan—I’m not an expert in these things, so my question may be a bit ignorant—but I was kind of curious about how you came to decide on the price to set for the shareholder rights plan.

David Atlas: Hello. Yes. Just wanted to ask a question that is a little historical at this point, goes back a few months. Your shareholder rights plan. I'm not an expert in these things, My question may be a bit ignorant, but I was kind of curious about how you came to decide on the price to set for the shareholder rights plan. It didn't seem to match what I understood from my extensive readings on the internet as how one sets the prices for these. I must be confused about something. Please help me understand.

[Analyst]: Hello. Yes. Just wanted to ask a question that is a little historical at this point, goes back a few months. Your shareholder rights plan. I'm not an expert in these things, My question may be a bit ignorant, but I was kind of curious about how you came to decide on the price to set for the shareholder rights plan. It didn't seem to match what I understood from my extensive readings on the internet as how one sets the prices for these. I must be confused about something. Please help me understand.

Speaker #7: It didn't seem to match what I understood from my extensive readings on the internet, as to how one sets the prices for these. So I must be confused about something.

Speaker #7: So please help me understand.

Robert E. Cauley: Sure. Just first to review the history, we had put a rights plan in place in 2015. It expired in late 2025, and we're putting in place another one, which is on our proxy, up for shareholder approval this year. Our annual meeting is on 9 June, I believe. I could be wrong. The price that we set is slightly different than the approach that we might have taken in the past or would be consistent with what you've probably read. In the past, when we were basically traded as a real estate investment trust, the price of the stock would typically be kind of pinned to book value.

Speaker #4: Sure. So just to review the history, we had put a rights plan in place in 2015. It expired in late 2025, and we're putting in place another one which is on our proxy.

Robert Cauley: Sure. Just first to review the history, we had put a rights plan in place in 2015. It expired in late 2025, and we're putting in place another one, which is on our proxy, up for shareholder approval this year. Our annual meeting is on 9 June, I believe. I could be wrong. The price that we set is slightly different than the approach that we might have taken in the past or would be consistent with what you've probably read. In the past, when we were basically traded as a real estate investment trust, the price of the stock would typically be kind of pinned to book value.

Speaker #4: So, for shareholder approval this year, our annual meeting is on June 9th, I believe—I could be wrong. The price that we set is slightly different than the approach that we might have taken in the past or would be consistent with what you've probably read in the past when we basically traded as a real estate investment trust.

Speaker #4: The price of the stock would typically be kind of pinned to book value. And when we looked at the price, we tried to pick a value around then-book and maybe what our expectations for what book could be evolve over time, and then take a slight discount to that as the company has transitioned, especially with respect to this transaction, and the acquisition of TGIM, the company's much more of a pure money manager.

Robert E. Cauley: When we looked at the price, we tried to pick a value around then book and maybe what our expectations for what book could evolve over time and then take a slight discount to that. As the company has transitioned, especially with respect to this transaction and the acquisition of TJIM, the company is much more of a pure money manager, and money managers just trade fundamentally differently than REITs. You know, they're not pegged to book value. They typically trade at a multiple of either EBITDA or sometimes revenue. Therefore, when we take that different approach, and we kind of look out and see, you know, granted, we have some caveats with respect to Bimini. It's a microcap stock company. It's not paying a dividend.

Robert Cauley: When we looked at the price, we tried to pick a value around then book and maybe what our expectations for what book could evolve over time and then take a slight discount to that. As the company has transitioned, especially with respect to this transaction and the acquisition of TJIM, the company is much more of a pure money manager, and money managers just trade fundamentally differently than REITs. You know, they're not pegged to book value. They typically trade at a multiple of either EBITDA or sometimes revenue. Therefore, when we take that different approach, and we kind of look out and see, you know, granted, we have some caveats with respect to Bimini. It's a microcap stock company. It's not paying a dividend.

Speaker #4: And money managers just trade fundamentally differently than REITs. They're not pegged to book value. They typically trade at a multiple of either EBITDA or sometimes revenue, and so, therefore, when we take that different approach and we kind of look out and see—granted, we have some caveats with respect to Bimini.

Speaker #4: It's a micro-cap stock company. It's not paying a dividend. So it's not likely to trade at the same multiples that, say, a large public liquid asset manager would trade at.

Robert E. Cauley: It's not likely to trade at the same multiples that, say, a large public, liquid asset manager would trade at. We still tried to form an opinion in terms of where we thought a reasonable level was, and then again, to try to pick a slight discount to that. Typically, those prices that we set are far above where the stock is trading at the time. That was the case here. As I'm sure you know, the stock's been trading between $2.50 and $3.00 or $3.25 for quite a while. That price is far above that. It's, you know, it's the process we go through and, you know, take it from there if you have any further questions.

Robert Cauley: It's not likely to trade at the same multiples that, say, a large public, liquid asset manager would trade at. We still tried to form an opinion in terms of where we thought a reasonable level was, and then again, to try to pick a slight discount to that. Typically, those prices that we set are far above where the stock is trading at the time. That was the case here. As I'm sure you know, the stock's been trading between $2.50 and $3.00 or $3.25 for quite a while. That price is far above that. It's, you know, it's the process we go through and, you know, take it from there if you have any further questions.

Speaker #4: But we still tried to form an opinion in terms of where we thought a reasonable level was. And then again, to try to pick a slight discount to that.

Speaker #4: Typically, those prices that we set are far above where the stock is trading at the time, and that was the case here. As I'm sure you know, the stock's been trading between 250 and 300 or 325 for quite a while.

Speaker #4: So that price is far above that. But it's that's the process we go through, and take it from there if you have any further questions.

Speaker #7: Sure. One follow-up, and you kind of opened the door to my follow-up, which is do you see yourself remaining a legal REIT in the future, or do you maybe going to take a look at that?

David Atlas: Sure. One, just one follow-up. You kind of opened the door on my follow-up, which is, do you see yourself remaining a legal REIT in the future, or do you maybe going to take a look at that decision?

[Analyst]: Sure. One, just one follow-up. You kind of opened the door on my follow-up, which is, do you see yourself remaining a legal REIT in the future, or do you maybe going to take a look at that decision?

Speaker #4: Well, no. Actually, when we did the original plan, we were a REIT, but we've since given up the status. We are no longer a REIT.

Robert E. Cauley: Well, no, actually, we, when we did the original plan, we were a REIT, but we've since given up the status. We are no longer a REIT.

Robert Cauley: Well, no, actually, we, when we did the original plan, we were a REIT, but we've since given up the status. We are no longer a REIT.

David Atlas: Oh, I didn't-

[Analyst]: Oh, I didn't-

Speaker #7: Oh, I missed that. My bad. Sorry.

Robert E. Cauley: No longer-

Robert Cauley: No longer-

David Atlas: Oh, I missed that.

[Analyst]: Oh, I missed that.

Robert E. Cauley: No.

Robert Cauley: No.

David Atlas: My bad. Sorry.

[Analyst]: My bad. Sorry.

Robert E. Cauley: Yeah. No worries.

Robert Cauley: Yeah. No worries.

Speaker #4: Yeah. No worries.

Speaker #7: Thank you. That's all my questions.

David Atlas: Thank you. Thank you. That's all my questions.

[Analyst]: Thank you. Thank you. That's all my questions.

Speaker #4: All right. You're quite welcome.

Robert E. Cauley: All right. You're quite welcome.

Robert Cauley: All right. You're quite welcome.

Speaker #6: Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, that's star 11 to ask the question. I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would like to turn the call back over to Robert for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, that star one one to ask the question. I'm showing no further questions in the queue. I would like to turn the call back over to Robert for closing remarks.

Speaker #5: Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone. To the extent that a question comes up after the call or if you have to listen to the replay and didn't get a chance to listen to us live, and you have a question, please feel free to reach out.

Robert E. Cauley: Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone. To the extent that a question comes up after the call or if you have to listen to the replay and didn't get a chance to listen to us live, and you have a question, please feel free to reach out. The number at the office is 772-231-1400. Otherwise, we look forward to speaking with you at the end of Q2. Thank you, and have a good day.

Robert Cauley: Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone. To the extent that a question comes up after the call or if you have to listen to the replay and didn't get a chance to listen to us live, and you have a question, please feel free to reach out. The number at the office is 772-231-1400. Otherwise, we look forward to speaking with you at the end of Q2. Thank you, and have a good day.

Speaker #5: The number at the office is 772-231-1400. Otherwise, we look forward to speaking with you at the end of the second quarter. Thank you, and have a good day.

Operator: Concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.