Q1 2026 Howmet Aerospace Inc Earnings Call

May 7, 2026

Operator: Good day, thank you for standing by, welcome to the Howmet Aerospace Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Today, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance during today's call, please signal for a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please note that today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Paul Luther, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Operator: Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Howmet Aerospace Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Today, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance during today's call, please signal for a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note that today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Paul Luther, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: need assistance during today's call, please signal for a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions.

Paul Luther: Thank you, Chris. Good morning, welcome to the Howmet Aerospace Q1 2026 results conference call. I am joined by John Plant, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Patrick Winterlich, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. After comments by John and Patrick, we will have a question-and-answer session. I would like to remind you that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements relating to future events and expectations. You can find the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these projections listed in today's presentation, in earnings press release, and in our most recent SEC filings. In today's presentation, references to EBITDA, operating income, and EPS mean adjusted EBITDA, adjusted operating income, and adjusted EPS.

Paul Luther: Thank you, Chris. Good morning and welcome to the Howmet Aerospace Q1 2026 results conference call. I am joined by John Plant, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Patrick Winterlich, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. After comments by John and Patrick, we will have a question-and-answer session. I would like to remind you that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements relating to future events and expectations. You can find the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these projections listed in today's presentation, in earnings press release, and in our most recent SEC filings. In today's presentation, references to EBITDA, operating income, and EPS mean adjusted EBITDA, adjusted operating income, and adjusted EPS.

Speaker #2: Chris. Good morning and welcome to the Hellmet Aerospace First Quarter 2026 Results Conference Call. I'm joined by John Plant, Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Patrick Winterlich, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker #2: After comments by John and Patrick, we will have a question-and-answer session. I would like to remind you that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements relating to future events and expectations.

Speaker #2: You can find the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these projections listed in today's presentation in earnings press release and in our most recent SEC filings.

Speaker #2: In today's presentation, references to EBITDA, operating income, and EPS mean adjusted EBITDA, adjusted operating income, and adjusted EPS. As noted in today's materials, we have removed the term "excluding special items" from the titles of non-GAAP financial measures, as well as simplified the definitions of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBIT.

Paul Luther: As noted in today's materials, we have removed the term "excluding special items" from the titles of non-GAAP financial measures, as well as simplified the definitions of adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBIT. While the titles and definitions have been simplified, current and prior period calculations have not changed. These measures are among the non-GAAP financial measures that we've included in our discussion. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in today's press release and in the appendix in today's presentation. In addition, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons are on a year-over-year basis. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to John.

Speaker #2: While the titles and definitions have been simplified, current and prior period calculations have not changed. These measures are among the non-GAAP financial measures that we've included in our discussion.

Speaker #2: Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in today's press release and in the appendix in today's presentation. In addition, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons are on a year-over-year basis.

Speaker #2: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to John.

Speaker #3: Thanks, PT, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Howmet First Quarter Earnings Call. Let's move to the highlights on slide 4. Howmet had a very strong start to 2026.

John Plant: Thanks, PT, good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Howmet Q1 earnings call. Let's move to the highlights on slide 4. Howmet had a very strong start to 2026. We delivered in many ways. Sales were $2.31 billion, EBITDA $740 million, and EPS of $1.22. The EBITDA margin rate was 32%, and this margin was an increase of 320 basis points over the equivalent quarter last year. Cash generation was $359 million, reflecting strong earnings and continued improvement in working capital efficiency. This enabled share buyback of $300 million during the quarter and a further $150 million in April. CapEx continued at a high rate, supporting the future organic growth rate of the company.

Speaker #3: We delivered in many ways. Sales were 2.31 billion, EBITDA 740 million, and earnings per share $1.22. The EBITDA margin rate was 32%. And this margin was an increase of 320 basis points over the equivalent quarter last year.

Speaker #3: Cash generation was 359 million, reflecting strong earnings and continued improvement in working capital efficiency. This enabled share buyback of 300 million dollars during the quarter, and a further 150 million dollars in April.

Speaker #3: Capital expenditure continued at a high rate, supporting the future organic growth rate of the company. Bruner acquisition was completed in February from cash on hand.

John Plant: Brunner acquisition was completed in February from cash on hand. The CAM acquisition closed on 6 April using $1.65 billion of new debt and part of the proceeds of the disposal of the Savannah, US disk operation at the end of March. The sale of Savannah tidied up another part of the structures portfolio, which was an isolated US disk operation for which there were no plans of expansion given its market position. The acquisition of CAM expands our reach and our portfolio of offerings to the non-traditional fasteners such as fluid fittings, couplings, heat shields, and additional latches. This acquisition investment in the fasteners business reflects our strong philosophy of allocating capital to the better-performing areas of our business.

Speaker #3: The CAM acquisition closed on the 6th of April using 1.65 billion dollars of new debt and part of the proceeds of the disposal of the Savannah US DISC operation at the end of March.

Speaker #3: Sale of Savannah tied it up another part of the structure's portfolio. Which was an isolated US DISC operation for which there were no plans of expansion given its market position.

Speaker #3: The acquisition of CAM expands our reach and our portfolio of offerings to the non-traditional fasteners such as fluid fittings, couplings, heat shields, and additional latches.

Speaker #3: This acquisition investment in the fasteners business reflects our strong philosophy of allocating capital to the better performing areas of our business. Excluding the 1.8 billion dollars used to fund the CAM acquisition, we entered the second quarter with just over 600 million dollars of cash on hand, having completed these portfolio moves and with a resulting net leverage of 1.6 times.

John Plant: Excluding the $1.8 billion used to fund the CAM acquisition, we entered Q2 with just over $600 million of cash on hand, having completed these portfolio moves and with a resulting net leverage of 1.6 times. This leverage we expect to bring down significantly as we move through the balance of 2026. Patrick will provide further color on markets and the individual business segments in the following, this part of the discussion. Meanwhile, the comment I would make is that margin performance of each business unit showed progress sequentially from Q4 2025. On that, pass across to Patrick.

Speaker #3: This leverage we expect to bring down significantly as we move through the balance of 2026. Patrick will provide further color on markets and individual business segments in the following this part of the discussion.

Speaker #3: Meanwhile, the comment I would make is that margin performance of each business unit showed progress sequentially from the fourth quarter of 2025. On that path across to Patrick.

Speaker #2: Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. Please move to slide 5. Another solid quarter for Hellmet with most end markets continuing to be healthy. We are well positioned for the future and continue to invest for growth.

Patrick Winterlich: Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. Please move to slide 5. Another solid quarter for Howmet, with most end markets continuing to be healthy. We are well-positioned for the future and continue to invest for growth. Revenue was up 19% in Q1, an acceleration from the 15% growth rate in Q4. Commercial aerospace growth was as strong at 20%, driven by accelerating demand for engine spares and underpinned by the record backlog for new, more fuel-efficient aircraft with reduced carbon emissions. Commercial aerospace engine spares were up 48% in Q1, with both legacy and next-generation engine spares contributing. Defense aerospace growth continued at 10%, including healthy spares activity. Commercial transportation revenue was up 13%, driven by the pass-through of higher aluminum costs and tariffs.

Speaker #2: Revenue was up 19% in the first quarter and acceleration from the 15% growth rate in the fourth quarter. Commercial aerospace growth was as strong at 20%, driven by accelerating demand for engine spares and underpinned by the record backlog for new, more fuel-efficient aircraft with reduced carbon emissions.

Speaker #2: Commercial aerospace engine spares were up 48% in the first quarter, with both legacy and next-generation engine spares contributing. Defense aerospace growth continued at 10%, including healthy spares activity.

Speaker #2: Commercial transportation revenue was up 13%, driven by the pass-through of higher aluminum costs and tariffs. On a volume basis, wheels was down 11% as the market down cycle continued into the quarter.

Patrick Winterlich: On a volume basis, wheels was down 11% as the market down cycle continued into the quarter. We continue to outperform the market with Howmet's premium products. Gas turbine growth remained very strong, with revenue up 39%. Gas turbine growth is driven by the increased demand for electricity generation, especially from natural gas for data centers. Within Howmet's markets, we had a robust spares growth. The combination of commercial aerospace, defense aerospace, and gas turbine spares was up 36% to approximately $520 million in Q1.

Speaker #2: We continue to outperform the market with Hellmet's premium products. Gas turbine growth remained very strong, with revenue up 39%. Gas turbine growth is driven by the increased demand for electricity generation especially from natural gas for data centers.

Speaker #2: Within Howmet's markets, we had a robust spares growth. The combination of commercial aerospace, defense aerospace, and gas turbine spares was up 36% to approximately $520 million in the first quarter.

Speaker #2: Spares revenue continues to grow and represents a larger portion of our overall revenue, now at 23% in the first quarter of 2026 versus 21% in the full year 2025 and 11% in the full year 2019.

Patrick Winterlich: Spares revenue continues to grow and represents a larger portion of our overall revenue, now at 23% in Q1 2026 versus 21% in the full year 2025 and 11% in the full year 2019. In summary, continued strong performance in commercial aerospace, defense aerospace, and gas turbines, with all markets up double digits and the commercial transportation market beginning to improve. Moving to slide 6, starting with the P&L. Q1 revenue, EBITDA margin, and earnings per share were all above the high end of guidance. On a year-over-year basis, revenue was up 19%, the strongest quarterly growth rate for the company since Q1 2023. EBITDA continued to outpace revenue growth, up 32%. EBITDA margin increased 320 basis points to a record 32%.

Speaker #2: In summary, continued strong performance in commercial aerospace, defense aerospace, and gas turbines with all markets up double digits and the commercial transportation market beginning to improve.

Speaker #2: Moving to slide 6, starting with the P&L. First quarter revenue, EBITDA, EBITDA margin, and earnings per share were all above the high end of guidance.

Speaker #2: On a year-over-year basis, revenue was up 19%, the strongest quarterly growth rate for the company since the first quarter of 2023. EBITDA continued to outpace revenue growth, up 32%.

Speaker #2: EBITDA margin increased 320 basis points to a record 32%. Incremental flow-through of revenue to EBITDA was solid, at 49% year-over-year. Earnings per share were $1.22, up a robust 42% compared to the first quarter of 2025.

Patrick Winterlich: Incremental flow-through of revenue to EBITDA was solid at 49% year-over-year. Earnings per share were $1.22, up a robust 42% compared to Q1 2025. Now let's cover the balance sheet and cash flow. Our strong balance sheet provided the foundation for the CAM and Brunner acquisitions that we closed during the first part of the year. The quarter-end cash balance was $2.4 billion. This included $1.65 billion added through debt issuance to fund the CAM acquisition, as well as proceeds from the $230 million sale of the Savannah disk forging facility. I will speak more about these transactions momentarily. Free cash flow was $359 million, a record for a Q1.

Speaker #2: Now let's cover the balance sheet and cash flow. Our strong balance sheet provided the foundation for the CAM and Bruner acquisitions that we closed during the first part of the year.

Speaker #2: The quarter-end cash balance was 2.4 billion dollars. This included 1.65 billion dollars added through debt issuance to fund the CAM acquisition, as well as proceeds from the 230 million dollar sale of the Savannah DISC forging facility.

Speaker #2: I will speak more about these transactions momentarily. Free cash flow was 3509 million dollars, a record for a first quarter. Net debt to trailing EBITDA continued to improve to 0.9 times prior to the CAM acquisition that we closed on April 6th.

Patrick Winterlich: Net debt to trading EBITDA continued to improve to 0.9x prior to the CAM acquisition that we closed on 6 April. Howmet's improved leverage and strong free cash flow pro-profile were reflected in Fitch's Q1 upgrade from BBB+ to A-, now 4 notches into investment grade. Liquidity remains strong, with an undrawn $1 billion revolver complemented by a $1 billion commercial paper program. The commercial paper program was utilized for the first time in Q1 2026 to support the CAM acquisition, with $450 million being drawn as of 31 March. Turning to capital deployment, CapEx was $94 million. The majority of CapEx was in the Engine Products segment as we continue to invest for growth in the aerospace and gas turbine markets. Investments are backed by customer contracts.

Speaker #2: Hellmet's improved leverage and strong free cash flow profile were reflected in Fitch's Q1 upgrade, from triple B plus to A minus, now four notches into investment grade.

Speaker #2: Liquidity remained strong, with an undrawn $1 billion revolver complemented by a $1 billion commercial paper program. The commercial paper program was utilized for the first time in the first quarter of 2026 to support the CAM acquisition, with 450 million dollars being drawn as of March 31st.

Speaker #2: Turning to capital deployment, CapEx was 94 million dollars. The majority of CapEx was in the engine product segment, as we continue to invest for growth in the aerospace and gas turbine markets.

Speaker #2: Investments are backed by customer contracts. In the quarter, we repurchased $300 million of common at $230 per share. We repurchased an additional $150 million in April at an average price of $246 per share.

Patrick Winterlich: In the quarter, we repurchased $300 million of common stock at an average price of $230 per share. We repurchased an additional $150 million in April at an average price of $246 per share. Q1 was the 20th consecutive quarter of common stock repurchases. As of today, the remaining authorization from the board of directors for share repurchases is approximately $1.05 billion. We continue to be confident in strong future free cash flow. We paid a Q1 dividend of $0.12 per share. We expect the dollar value of dividend distributions in 2026 will be higher than 2025. Turning to M&A, we completed two transactions in Q1 and one early in Q2.

Speaker #2: Q1 was the 20th consecutive quarter of common stock repurchases. As of today, the remaining authorization from the board of directors for share repurchases is approximately $1.05 billion.

Speaker #2: We continue to be confident in strong future free cash flow. We paid a first quarter dividend of 12 cents per share. We expect the dollar value of dividend distributions in 2026 will be higher than 2025.

Speaker #2: Finally, turning to M&A, we completed two transactions in the first quarter and one early in the second quarter. First, we acquired Bruner, a fastener business based in Wisconsin for approximately 120 million dollars in cash on February 6th.

Patrick Winterlich: First, we acquired Brunner, a fastener business based in Wisconsin, for approximately $120 million in cash on 6 February. The integration process is on track. Second, we sold our disk forging business in Savannah, Georgia, for $230 million in cash on 31 March. We expect this divestiture to be margin accretive to the structures segment. Third, we closed the previously announced CAM Fastener acquisition on 6 April for approximately $1.8 billion. To finance the CAM acquisition on 3 March, we issued $1.2 billion of new notes, in addition to $450 million in borrowings from our commercial paper program. The proceeds from the Savannah divestiture also supported the CAM purchase. The weighted average cost of debt for the CAM transaction is approximately 4.2%.

Speaker #2: The integration process is on track. Second, we sold our DISC forging operation in Savannah, Georgia, for 230 million dollars in cash on March 31st.

Speaker #2: We expect this divestiture to be margin accretive to the structure segment. Third, we closed the previously announced CAM fastener acquisition on April 6th for approximately 1.8 billion dollars.

Speaker #2: To finance the CAM acquisition on March 3rd, we issued 1.2 billion dollars of new notes, in addition to 450 million dollars in borrowings from our commercial paper program.

Speaker #2: The proceeds from the Savannah divestiture also supported the CAM purchase. The weighted average cost of debt for the CAM transaction is approximately 4.2%. Now let's move to slide 7 to cover the segment results for the first quarter.

Patrick Winterlich: Now let's move to slide 7 to cover the segment results for Q1. The Engine Products team delivered another excellent quarter for revenue, EBITDA, and EBITDA margin. Revenue increased 29% to $1.25 billion. Commercial aerospace was up 31%, and defense aerospace was up 13%. The gas turbines market was up 39%. Demand continues to be strong across all our engines markets, with very healthy engine spares volume. EBITDA outpaced revenue growth with an increase of 44% to $458 million. EBITDA margin increased 400 basis points to 36.6%, while absorbing approximately 235 net new employees in the quarter, positioning us well for continued growth. Please move to slide 8. Fastening Systems had another strong quarter. Revenue increased 14% to $471 million.

Speaker #2: The engine products team delivered another excellent quarter for revenue, EBITDA, and EBITDA margin. Revenue increased 29% to 1.25 billion dollars, commercial aerospace was up 31%, and defense aerospace was up 13%.

Speaker #2: The gas turbines market was up 39%. Demand continues to be strong across all our engines markets, with very healthy engine spares volume. EBITDA outpaced revenue growth with an increase of 44% to 458 million dollars, EBITDA margin increased 400 basis points to 36.6%, while absorbing approximately 235 net new employees in the quarter.

Speaker #2: Positioning us well for continued growth. Please move to slide 8. Fastening Systems had another strong quarter. Revenue increased 14% to 471 million dollars, commercial aerospace was up 17%, and defense aerospace up 21%.

Patrick Winterlich: Commercial aerospace was up 17% and defense aerospace up 21%. Commercial transport, which represents approximately 11% of Fastening Systems' revenue, was down 4%. EBITDA continues to outpace revenue growth with an increase of 18% to $150 million, despite the modest recovery of wide-body aircraft builds, along with the weakness in commercial transportation. EBITDA margin increased 100 basis points to 31.8% as the team has continued to drive commercial and operational performance. Moving to slide 9. Engineered Structures operational performance continues to improve. Revenue decreased 3% to $294 million as we continue to rationalize products and focus on higher margin and stronger return opportunities. Segment EBITDA was flat at $66 million.

Speaker #2: Commercial transport, which represents approximately 11% of fasteners revenue, was down 4%. EBITDA continues to outpace revenue growth with an increase of 18% to 150 million dollars, despite the modest recovery of widebody aircraft bills along with the weakness in commercial transportation.

Speaker #2: EBITDA margin increased 100 basis points to 31.8% as the team has continued to drive commercial and operational performance. Moving to slide 9. Engineered structures operational performance continues to improve; revenue decreased 3% to 294 million dollars, as we continue to rationalize products and focus on higher margin and stronger return opportunities.

Speaker #2: Segment EBITDA was flat at 66 million dollars. EBITDA margin increased 40 basis points to 22.4% as we continue to optimize the structure's manufacturing footprint and product mix, to maximize profitability.

Patrick Winterlich: EBITDA margin increased 40 basis points to 22.4% as we continue to optimize the structures manufacturing footprint and product mix to maximize profitability. Slide 10. Forged Wheels delivered another solid quarter. Revenue was up 17%, as an 11% decrease in volume was more than offset by higher aluminum cost and tariff pass-through and favorable foreign currency impacts. EBITDA was strong at $90 million, an increase of 32% despite a challenging market. EBITDA margin increased 350 basis points to 30.5%. The unfavorable margin impact of lower volumes and dilutive higher pass-through was more than offset by flexing costs, a strong product mix driven by premium products and favorable foreign currency. Before turning it back to John, I want to highlight a couple of items.

Speaker #2: Finally, slide 10. Forged Wheels delivered another solid quarter, revenue was up 17% as an 11% decrease in volume was more than offset by higher aluminum cost and tariff pass-through, and favorable foreign currency impacts.

Speaker #2: EBITDA was strong at 90 million dollars, an increase of 32% despite a challenging market. EBITDA margin increased 350 basis points to 30.5%. The unfavorable margin impact of lower volumes and dilutive higher pass-through was more than offset by flexing costs; a strong product mix driven by premium products, and favorable foreign currency.

Speaker #2: Lastly, before turning it back to John, I want to highlight a couple of items. One, in the first quarter, we moved a titanium alloy production operation from the engine product segment to the engineered structures segment for better operational alignment.

Patrick Winterlich: One, in Q1, we moved a titanium alloy production operation from the Engine Products segment to the Engineered Structures segment for better operational alignment. The comparable periods for Engine Products and Engineered Structures have been recast to reflect the new alignment. You can find these figures on slides 20 and 21. Two, in April, we issued our annual environmental, social and governance report, highlighting the meaningful progress we made in 2025 sustainability. The full report is available in the investor section on our website. Now let me turn the call back to John.

Speaker #2: The comparable periods for engine products and engineered structures have been recast to reflect the new alignment. You can find these figures on slides 20 and 21.

Speaker #2: Two, in April, we issued our annual environmental, social, and governance report, highlighting the meaningful progress we made in 2025 sustainability. The full report is available in the investor section on our website.

Speaker #2: Now let me turn the call back to John.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Patrick, and let's move to slide 11. Let me turn to the outlook for the company and firstly note that we have ongoing uncertainty in relation to the situation in Iran.

John Plant: Thanks, Patrick, let's move to slide 11. Let me turn to the outlook for the company, firstly note that we have ongoing uncertainty in relation to the situation in Iran. The outcome and consequences have yet to be fully determined. Having said that, the oil price shock is rippling around the world, along with other fossil fuel impacts. Either the case for higher inflation is set, although its rise and forward trajectory is yet to be determined, along with the effects on global interest rates and currency exchange rates. While acknowledging all of this, we do see a clear path to an improved economic outcome in 2026 for Howmet and future growth of revenues into 2027. The details of our updated 2026 guide will be set out momentarily. First, let's discuss commercial aerospace.

Speaker #1: The outcome and consequences have yet to be fully determined. Having said that, the oil price shock is rippling around the world, along with other fossil fuel impacts.

Speaker #1: Either the case for higher inflation is set, although its rise and forward trajectory is yet to be determined. Along with the effects on global interest rates, and currency exchange rates.

Speaker #1: While acknowledging all of this, we do see a clear path to an improved economic outcome in 2026 for Howmet, and future growth of revenues into 2027.

Speaker #1: The details of our updated 2026 guide will be set out momentarily. First, let's discuss commercial aerospace. Both narrowbody and widebody aircraft build rates are planned to increase.

John Plant: Both narrow body and wide-body aircraft build rates are planned to increase. This is expected to be the case throughout the year, although the trajectory going into 2027 is yet to be determined. Airline traffic has held up well through April, although some airlines have drawn up lower volume contingency plans. A large aircraft backlog should help to underpin current build rates. The outlook for spares continues to be strong, as MRO slots are also backlogged, although again, there may be an effect to be felt from the Iranian conflict. Aircraft retirements on used serviceable material and the longer term effects are being considered. The outlook remains for continued strong growth, that persists into the future.

Speaker #1: And this is expected to be the case throughout the year, although the trajectory going into 2027 is yet to be determined. Airline traffic has held up well through April, although some airlines have drawn up lower volume contingency plans.

Speaker #1: The large aircraft backlog should help to underpin current build rates. The outlook for spares continues to be strong, as MRO slots are also backlogged.

Speaker #1: Though again, there may be an effect to be felt from the Iranian conflict. Aircraft retirements on used serviceable material and the longer-term effects are being considered.

Speaker #1: But the outlook remains for continued strong growth, and that persists into the future. Defense sales continue to be healthy for both new aircraft and spares, especially given the recent escalation of aerial operations in the Middle East.

John Plant: Defense sales continue to be healthy for both new aircraft and spares, especially given the recent escalation of aerial operations in the Middle East, as well as the parts supplies to missiles. At the same time, we're expanding efforts on new programs, most notably in the drone and collaborative combat aircraft programs. Naturally, this does not really affect much by way of revenue in 2026, but it's very important for the future years. The gas turbines market is also very active. Sales are expected to grow both in 2026 and into the future. We provided a sales demand outlook during the last earnings call for a doubling of demand in the 3 to 5-year period. We are not updating this currently, although the picture continues to look very bright.

Speaker #1: As well as the parts supplied to missiles. At the same time, we're expanding efforts on new programs, most notably in the drone and collaborative combat aircraft programs.

Speaker #1: Naturally, this does not really affect much by way of revenue in 2026, but it's very important for the future years. The gas turbines market is also very active.

Speaker #1: Sales are expected to grow both in 2026 and into the future. We provided a sales demand outlook during the last earnings call for a doubling of demand in the three-to-five-year period.

Speaker #1: We are not up yet dating this currently, although the picture continues to look very bright. The update today relates to customer contract positions. Where the negotiations regarding demand and capital investment have now been finalized for six out of seven customers, which is an increase from the four I commented on in the last earnings call.

John Plant: The update today relates to customer contract positions, where the negotiations regarding demand and capital investment have now been finalized for six out of seven customers. Which is an increase from the four I commented on in the last earnings call. At the same time, further new orders and increased projected volumes are possible, dependent upon all of the other componentry that's required for a full IGT installation. This is for both small, medium, and indeed large IGT builds. Starting in Q2, the commercial truck market has begun to strengthen despite the diesel's price increases, albeit our outlook remains cautious until we see an improved and more stable macroeconomic outlook. Moving to specific numbers, commercial aircraft build rates are seen to be increasing, We remain slightly behind projected rates.

Speaker #1: At the same time, further new orders and increased projected volumes are possible, dependent upon all of the other componentry that's required for a full IGT installation.

Speaker #1: And this is for both small, medium, and indeed large IGT builds. Starting in the second quarter, the commercial truck market has begun to strengthen.

Speaker #1: Despite the diesel's price increases, albeit our outlook remains cautious until we see an improved and more stable macroeconomic outlook. Moving to specific numbers, commercial aircraft build rates are seen to be increasing.

Speaker #1: But we remain slightly behind projected rates. We have the rate for the 737 at an average of 42 per month for the year, and the 787 currently 7 per month, rising to 8 per month by the fourth quarter.

John Plant: We have the rate for the 737 at an average of 42 per month for the year. On the 787, currently 7 per month, rising to 8 per month by the Q4. On the Airbus A320, 62 per month, and the Airbus A350 at 6 per month. The past few months were very active regarding the Howmet portfolio. The guide we provided reflects these changes. We closed 2 transactions in the Fastener segment, namely CAM and Brunner, and we also divested the disk forging business in Savannah, which is part of the Engineered Structures segment. These transactions followed our stated strategy of allocating capital to the businesses that demonstrate high growth potential and higher margin potential.

Speaker #1: On the Airbus A320, 62 per month, and the Airbus A350 at 6 per month. The past few months were very active regarding the Hamet portfolio.

Speaker #1: And the guide we've provided reflects these changes. We closed two transactions in the fastener segment, namely Cameron Brunner while we also divested the USDIS business in Savannah.

Speaker #1: Which is part of the structure segments. These transactions followed our stated strategy of allocating capital to the businesses that demonstrate higher growth potential and higher margin potential.

Speaker #1: The net effect of these transactions will add approximately $275 million of revenue to the remainder of 2026, and about $60 million of EBITDA. The EPS effect in 2026 is insignificant due to the increased interest expense.

John Plant: The net effect of these transactions will add approximately $275 million of revenue to the remainder of 2026, and about $60 million of EBITDA. The EPS effect in 2026 is insignificant due to the increased interest expense. There is expected to be a positive earnings per share, in fact, starting in 2027. Our Q2 guide numbers are revenue of $2.4 billion, ±$10 million. EBITDA of $765 million, ±$5 million. Earnings per share of $1.23, ±$0.01. These are at incrementals of just about 51%. Our full year guide numbers are revenue of $9.65 billion, ±$75 million. EBITDA of $3.06 billion, ±$35 million.

Speaker #1: There is expected to be a positive earnings per share impact starting in 2027. Our Q2 guide numbers are revenue of $2.4 billion plus or minus $10 million, EBITDA of $765 million plus or minus $5 million, earnings per share of $1.23 plus or minus a penny, and these are at incrementals of just about 51%.

Speaker #1: Our full year guide numbers are revenue of $9.65 billion plus or minus $75 million, EBITDA of $3.06 billion plus or minus $35 million, earnings per share of $4.94 plus or minus $0.06.

John Plant: Earnings per share of $4.94, ±$0.06. Free cash flow of $1.75 billion, ±$50 million. That's after increasing our capital expenditure once again. It's noteworthy that our full year revenue growth guide, excluding the impact of M&A, rises from 10% to 14%. Again, an increase over and above that which we said in February. In summary, we started 2026 in a very healthy fashion, and the guidance numbers reflect that increase in confidence for the year. At the same time, we do recognize the increased uncertainties around the macroeconomic outlook. I'll stop there and turn the meeting over to questions.

Speaker #1: And free cash flow of $1.75 billion plus or minus $50 million. And that's after increasing our capital expenditure once again. It's noteworthy that our full year economic sorry, our full year revenue growth guide excluding the impact of M&A rises from 10% to 14%.

Speaker #1: So again, an increase over and above that which we said in February. In summary, we started 2026 in a very healthy fashion. And the guidance numbers reflect the increase in confidence for the year.

Speaker #1: And at the same time, we do recognize the increased uncertainties around the macroeconomic outlook. I'll stop now and turn the meeting over to questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad.

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Speaker #2: As a reminder to questioners, please limit yourself to one question only. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And today's first question comes from Scott Duschel with Deutsche Bank.

Speaker #2: Please proceed.

Speaker #3: Hi, good morning. John, can you walk through in a bit more detail as to what factors drove this step function change in the commercial aerospace growth and engine products in the quarter?

Scott Deuschle: Hi, good morning. John, can you walk through in a bit more detail as to what factors drove the step function change in commercial aerospace growth at Engine Products in the quarter? Related to that, is Engine Products currently seeing much growth benefit from GTF Advantage, Hot Section Plus, or LEAP-1B MAVERICK shipments, or is that all still largely in front of you? Thank you.

Speaker #3: And then related to that, is engine products currently seeing much growth benefit from GTF Advantage hot section plus or LEAP 1B Maverick shipments, or is that all still largely in front of you?

Speaker #3: Thank

Speaker #1: Okay, so first of all, the engine revenue increase is above aircraft build in the first quarter for sure. Some of it clearly reflects that we need to be ahead of future volume increases.

John Plant: Okay. First of all, the engine revenue increase is above aircraft build in Q1 for sure. Some of it clearly reflects that we need to be ahead of future volume increases. As you know that the aircraft manufacturers want to raise rates during the course of the year, so there's some anticipation of that. I think the second point would be there's been very little by way of available inventory in engine build. I think everything was, you know, was thrown at increasing both LEAP and GTF production in 2025. There was very little. For us then, again, seeing strong demand to some degree catch up. In addition to that, I'd point to there is some share increase.

Speaker #1: And as you know, the aircraft manufacturers want to raise rates during the course of the year, so there's some anticipation of that. I think the second point would be there's been very little by way of available inventory in engine build.

Speaker #1: I think everything was thrown out increasing both LEAP and GTF production in 2025. And so there was very little. And so for us, again, seeing strong demand to some degree catch up.

Speaker #1: In addition to that, I'd point to there is some share increase I'd point to the fact that there is some price increase. And then finally, it shouldn't be underestimated that the spares business was very strong.

John Plant: I'd point to the fact that there is some price increase. Then finally, it shouldn't be underestimated that the spares business was very strong. Whereas the overall spares increase for the company was 35% plus, it was actually 45%, more like 48%, in fact, in Q1. If you put strong spares along with the aircraft build, the anticipated build, the share, the price, there's a lot of very positive things happening for us in the engine business. In terms of the question or the part of the question you asked regarding GTF and then the changeover for the LEAP from Turkey to MAVERICK, let me deal with, say, the GTF first.

Speaker #1: So whereas the overall spares increase for the company was 35% plus, it was actually 45%, more like 48% in fact, in the first quarter.

Speaker #1: So if you put strong spares along with the aircraft build, the anticipated build, the share, the price, there's a lot of very positive things happening for us in the engine business.

Speaker #1: In terms of the question or the part of the question you asked regarding GTF and then the changeover for the LEAP from circuit to Maverick, let me deal with, say, the GTF first.

John Plant: In Q1 was a fairly small amount of GTF production. I think during last year I'd commented that we were running at about 6 engine sets a month in H2. That's increased during Q1, but it's going to increase again significantly as we go through the balance of this year. My expectation is that we'll be providing a full production of the legacy GTF product and then increasing GTF Advantage products as we go through this year. I think as you know, Scott, those will, they'll have a higher content and then therefore higher value. That production rate increase will actually continue into 2027. 2027 is going to be a much bigger year, I think, for the GTF Advantage than 2026.

Speaker #1: In the first quarter, there's a fairly small amount of GTF production. I think during last year, I'd commented that we were running at about six engine sets a month in the second half.

Speaker #1: That's increased during the first quarter. But it's going to increase again significantly as we go through the balance of this year. So my expectation is that we'll be providing a full production of the legacy GTF product and then increasing GTF Advantage products as we go through this year.

Speaker #1: And I think, as you know, Scott, those will have a higher content and then therefore higher value. That production rate increase will actually continue into 2027.

Speaker #1: So 2027 is going to be a much bigger year, I think, for the GTF Advantage than 2026. But you are going to see a steady climb throughout this year.

John Plant: You are gonna see a steady climb throughout this year as we bring further rate tooling to bear. As you know, the GTF Advantage has now had both certifications at the customer and from the regulatory agencies. In terms of the MAVERICK, that production is just starting for the LEAP-1B. It's underway. Again, volumes will be increasing during Q2, more in Q3 and Q4. It won't be changed over until H2 with, again, a date to be determined for the exact month of changeover. We do see, say the LEAP-1B changing in the back end of the year.

Speaker #1: As we bring further rates holding to bear, and as you know, the GTF Advantage has now had both certifications at the customer and from the regulatory agencies.

Speaker #1: In terms of the Maverick, that production is just starting for the LEAP 1B. So it's underway. Again, volumes will be increasing during the second quarter.

Speaker #1: And then more in Q3 and Q4. But it won't be changed over until the second half of the year with, again, a date to be determined for the exact month of changeover.

Speaker #1: But we do see the LEAP 1B changing in the back end of the year. And certainly, I think before the turn of the year into 2027.

John Plant: Certainly we think before the, before the turn of the year into 2027. For the first part, we'll be doing the existing turbine blades and then increasingly make that changeover such that by, let's say Q3 and certainly by Q4, we'll be fully changed over is my expectation.

Speaker #1: So for the first part, we'll be doing the existing turbine blades and then increasingly make that changeover, such that by, let's say, Q3 and certainly by Q4, we'll be fully changed over, is my expectation.

Speaker #3: Thank you very much.

Scott Deuschle: Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

John Plant: Thank you.

Speaker #2: And the next question is from Ron Epstein with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question is from Ron Epstein with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Speaker #4: Yeah, good morning. So John. Maybe a big picture question for you. How should we think about how IGT is going to go for you all over time?

Ron Epstein: Yeah. Hey, good morning, guys. So, John, maybe a big picture question for you. How should we think about, you know, you know, how IGT is going to go for you all over time, kind of given the contracts that you're signing, the CapEx that is being invested, the hyperscaler spend? Then ultimately, how does that compete with your aerospace business? Because it seems like the hyperscalers are competing against the engine guys for similar assets and supply chains. How are you thinking about that?

Speaker #4: Kind of given the contracts that you're signing, the CapEx that is being invested, the hyperscaler spend, and then ultimately, how does that compete with your aerospace business?

Speaker #4: Because it seems like the hyperscalers are competing against the engine guys for similar assets and supply chains. How are you thinking about that?

Speaker #1: Okay, IGT is a big subject at the moment, big subject for us for sure. And trying to, I'm going to say, feel our way through to the right outcome for the company.

John Plant: Okay. IGT is a big subject at the moment, big subject for us, for sure. Trying to, I'm gonna say, feel our way through to the right outcome for the company. It's clearly an opportunity to deploy capital for increased organic growth. At the same time, we just wanna make sure that we're not getting ahead of ourselves and, you know, if we do see a continuing bright future for it, such that we don't end up with a period of over-investment and over-capacitization, because that wouldn't would not be a good outcome for us.

Speaker #1: It's clearly an opportunity to deploy capital for increased organic growth. At the same time, we just want to make sure that we're not getting ahead of ourselves and we do see a continuing bright future for it, such that we don't end up with a period of overinvestment and overcapacitization because that wouldn't not be a good outcome for us.

Speaker #1: So what we've been doing is to truly understand as best we can the market dynamics of what the hyperscalers are really needing. And paying close attention to build out of data centers and just the underlying growth anyway, excluding AI, which is just a function of just fundamentally a huge increase in data and data storage required around the world.

John Plant: What we've been doing is to truly understand as best we can the market dynamics of what the hyperscalers are really needing and paying close attention to build out of data centers and just the underlying growth anyway, excluding AI, which is just a function of just fundamentally huge increases in data and data storage required around the world. Then on top of that, the increased use and use cases for the application of artificial intelligence, which is, you know, there's a huge amount of money, maybe, I don't know, $700 billion being invested this year. Trying to assess when all of that is required and what capacities will need to be brought online.

Speaker #1: And then on top of that, the increased use and use cases for the application of artificial intelligence, which is, you know, there's a huge amount of money maybe $700 billion being invested this year and trying to assess when all of that is required and what capacities will need to be brought online.

Speaker #1: And indeed, what are the alternatives for electricity production as we go through the next few years? Our assessment is that natural gas is fundamental to that buildout because of the, I would say, the ability to have fast-acting and to underpin any form of renewable energy and also as a baseload provision as well.

John Plant: Indeed, what are the alternatives for electricity production as we go through the next few years. Our assessment is that natural gas is fundamental to that buildup because of the, I'll say, the ability to have fast acting and to underpin any form of renewable energy, and also as a base load provision as well. We, we're confident that for the next 3 years, 5 years, that that growth is clearly there. The tick up of investments by the hyperscalers, I mean, you see numbers, let's say, going from maybe Microsoft saying they're gonna go from $125 billion to $185 billion or, you know, then Google matches it, then Amazon talks about $200 billion.

Speaker #1: So with confidence that for the next three years, five years, that that growth is clearly there. The tick up in investment by the hyperscalers, I mean, you see numbers, let's say, going from maybe Microsoft saying they're going to go from 125 billion to 185 or then Google's matches it, then Amazon talks about 200 billion.

Speaker #1: And so clearly, the amount of investment is enormous. And probably still not yet reflected in the current demand pattern that we're seeing through our IGT customers.

John Plant: Clearly, the amount of investment is enormous and probably still not yet reflected in the current demand pattern that we're seeing through our IGT customers. At the same time for us, we have to consider like what happens to 2030 through the balance of this decade into the following decade, and having really detailed meetings with those large IGT customers of what turbines that they expect to make, that which they want to invest in new products compared to just making more of the same, which is a very live topic at the moment. Indeed what their own capacities are and what the demand pattern looks like through, let's say, 2032, 2034, et cetera.

Speaker #1: At the same time, for us, we have to consider what happens to 2030 through the balance of this decade into the following decade. And having really detailed meetings with those large IGT customers of what turbines that they expect to make, that which they want to invest in new products, compared to just making more of the same, which is a very live topic at the moment.

Speaker #1: And indeed, what their own capacities are and what the demand pattern looks like through, let's say, 2032, 2034, etc. And while we're evaluating all that, we're also looking at the smaller and mid-sized turbines which are also required because sometimes data center installations cannot get electricity sufficiently from utilities or indeed from their own large-scale gas turbine availability.

John Plant: While we're evaluating all that, we're also looking at the smaller and mid-sized turbines, which are also required because sometimes data center installations cannot get electricity sufficiently from utilities or indeed from their own large scale gas turbine availability. Banks of small and mid-sized turbines are required. Evaluating all of that, also the fact that it's probably likely that insufficient electricity production will be provided in the, let's say, the decade as we see it beyond 2030. For major industrial complexes, we see standalone microgrids being required for, say, small and medium-sized turbines. Again, a very healthy demand pattern. Everybody, basically the word of the, I was gonna say month, quarter, you could call it year is, the answer is more.

Speaker #1: So banks of smaller and mid-sized turbines are required. And so evaluating all of that and then also the fact that it's probably likely that insufficient electricity production will be provided in the, let's say, the decade as we see it beyond 2030.

Speaker #1: So for major industrial complexes, we see standalone microgrids being required for, let's say, smaller and medium-sized turbines. So again, a very healthy demand pattern.

Speaker #1: And everybody basically the word of the, I was going to say, month, quarter, you could call it year, is the answer is more. And so we're trying to meet that demand not necessarily trying to add everybody's demand together and say because everybody expecting all of it to result in those market shares.

John Plant: We are trying to meet that demand, not necessarily trying to add everybody's demand together and say, you know, with everybody expecting all of it to result in those market shares, but also to invest at a rate that makes sense to us and also underpin that with commercial agreements, again, which makes sense, and trying to provide, I'll say, confidence and security for the Howmet investors. There's a lot going on. You've seen the kick up in capital expenditures. If we were $450 million plus or minus last year, we've talked about, I think the last earnings call, a midpoint of $470 million, but trending towards the top end. We're seeing more like now this year, $500 million of CapEx.

Speaker #1: But also to invest at a rate that makes sense to us and also underpin that with commercial agreements. Again, which makes sense and trying to provide I would say corridors of security for how that investors.

Speaker #1: So there's a lot going on. You've seen the kick-up in capital expenditures. I mean, if we were I don't know, 450 million plus or minus last year with talked about, I think the last earnings call at midpoint of 470 million, but trending towards the top end.

Speaker #1: We're seeing more like now this year 500 million of CapEx and those increases really do reflect the increased investments that we're making in the gas turbine market.

John Plant: Those increases really do reflect the increasing investments that we're making in the gas turbine market. My current expectation is that 2027 is going to go higher. At the same time, you know, we're not spending this money and trashing our cash flow at all, is that, you know, we've already guided to a higher CapEx number and a higher cash flow number and still maintaining our long-term commitment to that 90% conversion of net income. We're trying to do everything. I think I maybe said something quite bold on the last call, which is, you know, we're trying to do it all.

Speaker #1: And my current expectation is that 2027 is going to go higher. But at the same time, we're not spending this money and trashing our cash flow at all is that we already guided to a higher CapEx and a higher cash flow number and still maintaining our long-term commitment to that 90% conversion net income.

Speaker #1: So we're trying to do everything. And I think I maybe said something quite bold on the last call, which is we're trying to do it all.

Speaker #1: And at the moment, you say we do have the cash flows to largely do it all between maintaining really a great leverage position, increasing our CapEx and also meeting the some of the exciting parts of the market demand picture of which gas turbines is particularly active at the moment.

John Plant: At the moment, you say we do have the cash flows to largely do it all between maintaining really a great leverage position, increasing our CapEx, and also meeting some of the exciting parts of the market demand picture, of which gas turbines is particularly active at the moment. You heard me say on the call earlier in my remarks that we've now reached agreement with 6 of 7 major customers and with 1 more to go, which is a, you know, a very significant customer to hopefully complete during the balance of Q2.

Speaker #1: And yeah, you heard me say on the call earlier in my remarks that we've now reached agreement with six of seven major customers and with one more to go which is a very significant customer to hopefully complete during the balance of the second quarter.

Speaker #1: So it's interesting, exciting, but at the same time, if we're not trying to get carried away and do something which would not put us in a good position.

John Plant: It's interesting, exciting, but at the same time, we're not trying to get carried away and do something which would not put us in a good position. You know, we've been very clear on that in the discussions with our customers.

Speaker #1: And we've been very clear on that in the discussions with our customers.

Speaker #2: Got it. Thank you very much.

Ron Epstein: Got it. Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

John Plant: Thank you.

Speaker #3: The next question is from Robert Stollard with Vertical Research. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question is from Robert Stallard with Vertical Research. Please proceed.

Speaker #4: Thanks so much. Good morning.

Robert Stallard: Thanks so much. Good morning.

Speaker #1: Morning, Rob.

John Plant: Morning, Rob.

Robert Stallard: John, you've given a pretty interesting growth outlook here for several of your end markets, I'm wondering how you feel about the ability of your supply chain to deliver sufficient material, especially on, say, things like rare earths, and also the outlook for staffing, whether you're getting enough quality people.

Speaker #4: John, you've given a pretty interesting growth outlook here for several of your end markets. But I'm wondering how you feel about the ability of your supply chain to deliver sufficient material, especially on, say, things like rare earths.

Speaker #4: And also the outlook for staffing, whether you're getting enough quality people.

Speaker #1: Okay. So let me deal with input materials broadly and then rare earth specifically. Before moving on to human capital. For the most part, we for the metals that we use in our turbine blade business and structural casting business, and indeed structure segments, we get the base metal.

John Plant: Okay. Let me deal with input materials broadly and then rare earths specifically before moving on to human capital. For the most part, the metals that we use in our turbine blade business and structural casting business, and in the structure segments, we get the base metal. We're buying from smelters and traders so that we will buy the base nickel or cobalt or whatever. We feel fairly secure of that and have a pretty good view of country of origin and security stocks around all base metals. Feel quite comfortable there.

Speaker #1: So we're buying from smelters, traders, so that we will buy the base nickel or cobalt or whatever. And so we feel fairly secure of that and have a pretty good view of country of origin.

Speaker #1: And security stocks around all base metal. So feel quite comfortable there. During last year, I gave a picture about I think I called out three rare earths and tried to describe the fact we had a year supply of two of them plus inventory held outside of its producing territory.

John Plant: During last year, I gave a picture about. I think I called out 3 rare earths and tried to describe the fact we had a year supply of 2 of them, plus inventory held outside of its producing territory, so outside of China. So we had inventory both in the US and Europe to provide us with security. I think I called out the third rare earth, which was about a 10-year secure supply. It's something that I've returned to again in Q1 2026 and been really focused and have our procurement operations focused on gaining increased security.

Speaker #1: So outside of China. So we had inventory both in the US and Europe. To provide us with security and I think I called out the third rare earth, which was about a 10-year secure supply.

Speaker #1: It's something that I've returned to again in the first quarter of 2026. Been really focused and have procurement operations focused on gaining increased security.

Speaker #1: So right now, we have in hand and despite an improved inventory efficiency, we actually have increased the inventory of rare earths such that we're fully covered through 26 and I think we're like 90% of 2027 and some products now well through the end of the decade.

John Plant: Right now, we have in hand and despite an improved, you know, inventory efficiency, we actually have increased the inventory of rare earths such that we're fully covered through 2026, and I think we're like 90% of 2027, and some products now are well through the end of the decade. It's been a major push to increase security around rare earths such that, you know, some uncertainties around the geopolitical situation, even though we recognize there's a major political summit coming up between America and China. You know, we wanna make sure that we're able to be secure, supply our customers for a very extended period of time with the product we've got, which is essential, particularly for some of our defense applications, to provide that supply security.

Speaker #1: So it's been a major push to increase security around rare earths. Such that we've again some uncertainties around the geopolitical situation. Even though we recognize as a major political summit coming up between America and China, we want to make sure that we're able to be secure supply our customers for a very extended period of time.

Speaker #1: With the product we've got, which is essential, particularly for some of our defense applications. To provide that supply security. If you take the Savannah disposition, then that was one of the two operations where we buy alloyed metal from somebody else which is, let's say, it was about 5% input of metals into the company.

John Plant: If you take the Savannah disposition, that was one of the two operations where we buy alloyed metal from somebody else, which is about 5% input of metal, metals into the company. Let's assume now we've that 5% is down to 3.5, over 3.5, 40% is supplied from our in-house operations in Europe. We're down to a very tiny percentage of metals that we rely on the alloyed third-party suppliers and have very solid security stocks around rare earth. I think we've, we try to protect the company in a very significant way. I think the second part of your question was around human capital.

Speaker #1: So let's assume now we've that 5% is down to three and a half of then another three and a half, 40% to supply from our in-house operations.

Speaker #1: In Europe. And so we're down to like a very tiny percentage of I'll say of metals that we rely on alloyed third-party suppliers. And have very solid security stocks around rare earths.

Speaker #1: So I think we try to protect the company in a very significant way. I think the second part of your question was around human capital.

John Plant: We've continued to recruit, I think, about 230, 250 people net in Q1 of this year. We're still anticipating, well over 1,000 people of adds during the course of this year. Similar, maybe slightly higher number than we had in 2025. I've also spent a lot of time trying to improve all the, I'll say, methods that we have by way of, I think, recruitment and training and trying to reduce our employee turnover. We did make major strides during 2025 and the trajectory during the course of the year.

Speaker #1: We've continued to recruit, I think, about 230, 250 people net in the first quarter of this year. We've still anticipating well over 1,000 people of ads during the course of this year.

Speaker #1: So similar maybe slightly higher number than we had in 2025. And I've also spent a lot of time trying to improve all the, I'll say, methods that we have by way of recruitment and training and trying to reduce our employee turnover.

Speaker #1: So, we did make major strides during 2025, and the trajectory during the course of the year. So far in 2026, employee turnover has been pretty stable with the fourth quarter of 2025.

John Plant: So far in 2026, employee turnover has been pretty stable with the Q4 of 2025, but with, again, plans to, again, provide additional efforts to provide, I'll say, the training that we provide employees, showing the people the workplace, looking at spans of control within our plants, looking at the basic recruitment practices itself and obviously pay rates, benefit programs, and all the rest of it as well. Trying to provide a good working environment. At the same time, also automate.

Speaker #1: But with again plans to again provide additional efforts to provide I'll say the training that we provide employees showing the people the workplace. Looking at spans of control within our plants.

Speaker #1: Looking at the basic recruitment practices itself. And obviously. Pay rate and benefit programs and all the rest of it as well. So trying to provide a good work environment.

Speaker #1: At the same time, also automate and in fact, when I was in Japan last week looking at our new manufacturing plant there which was mainly focused on the gas turbine business.

John Plant: In fact, when I was in Japan last week looking at our new manufacturing plant there, which was, you know, mainly focused on the gas turbine business, again, spent a lot of time talking about the recruitment of people in Japan, which is actually more difficult than, say, the US or Europe. Also the importance of trying to find additional areas of automation such that, you know, we can put it more in our control than it is in something which is difficult to control, which is, you know, can you get sufficiently qualified and good people into your production operation? A lot of efforts going in, Rob.

Speaker #1: Again, spent a lot of time talking about the recruitment of people in Japan which is actually more difficult than say the US or Europe.

Speaker #1: And also the importance of trying to find additional areas of automation. Such that we can put it more in our control than it is in something which is difficult to control.

Speaker #1: Which is can you get sufficiently qualified and good people into your production operation. So a lot of efforts going in, Rob. And at the moment, I'm pretty convinced that we'll execute 2026 in a satisfactory way.

John Plant: At the moment, I'm pretty convinced that we'll execute 2026 in a satisfactory way and still show further improvements in our employee retention.

Speaker #1: And still show further improvements in our employee retention.

Speaker #2: That's great. Thanks, John.

Robert Stallard: That's great. Thanks, John.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

John Plant: Thank you.

Speaker #2: In our next question comes from Christine Lawag with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Operator: Our next question comes from Kristine Liwag with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Speaker #3: Hey, good morning, everyone. So, John, you've done a few deals lately with buying the fastener businesses and then also divesting the disc forging business.

Kristine Liwag: Hey, good morning, everyone. You know, John, you know, you've done a few deals lately with buying the Fastening Systems businesses and then also divesting the disk forging business. When you look at the portfolio today, are there additional areas that you wanna expand or are there areas that you wanna prune, especially as we start seeing more industrial gas turbine demand come through? Thanks.

Speaker #3: When you look at the portfolio today, where are there additional areas that you want to expand or are there areas that you want to prune?

Speaker #3: Especially as we start seeing more industrial gas turbine demand come through. Thanks.

John Plant: We pretty much have the same stance today on the portfolios we've had for the last few years. You know, we examine acquisition opportunities as they arise. Obviously takes a willing seller as well as a willing buyer to transact. We've also been very selective on those that we want to proceed with or potentially proceed with. If you go back to the say the CAM acquisition, it wasn't the only one that had come up, but it was the only one that we ever got beyond expressing an interest in to actually showing the willingness to move and move quickly through to execution and sign the share purchase agreement.

Speaker #1: We pretty much have the same stance today on the portfolios we've had for the last few years. So we examine acquisition opportunities as they arise.

Speaker #1: Obviously, it takes a willing seller as well as a willing buyer to transact. And we've also been very selective on those that we wanted to proceed with or potentially proceed with.

Speaker #1: So if you go back to the, let's say, the CAM acquisition, it wasn't the only one that had come up. But it was the only one that we ever got beyond expressing an interest in to actually showing the willingness to move and quickly through to execution and sign the share purchase agreement.

Speaker #1: So we want to be very selective in deploying that capital to be convinced that it adds something to us and passes all of the gates that we want to have with revenue synergy which is always possibly the most difficult to get, but we're convinced we will have revenue synergy as well as cost synergies.

John Plant: We want to be very selective in deploying that capital and be convinced that it adds something to us and passes all of the gates that we wanna have with revenue synergy, which is always possibly the most difficult to get, but we're convinced we will have revenue synergy as well as cost synergies. A good solid business where we can improve margins. It passed all of those. I could say, likewise, I obviously a much smaller acquisition in Brunner, but solid operations, which we've got very clear plans, again, through those types of synergy, including the opportunity of improving its top line. I can say we've been discerning.

Speaker #1: And a good, solid business where we can improve margins. And so it passed all of those. And like I say, likewise, obviously a much smaller acquisition in Bruna.

Speaker #1: But solid operations which we've got very clear plans again through those types of synergy including the opportunity of improving its tough line. So like I say, we're pretty discerning.

Speaker #1: At the same time, we always do look at our leverage to make sure that we're in a good zone, and excluding CAM, we've got ourselves to below one in terms of net leverage.

John Plant: At the same time, we always, you know, do look at our leverage and to make sure that we're in a good zone. Excluding CAM, we got ourselves to below 1 in terms of net leverage. Now it's 1.6, but it's going to decay rapidly back towards the 1 level during the course of this year. We are still very open to considering further acquisitive steps. And, you know, be positive about it, but again, be very discerning. If something comes up that doesn't stretch ourselves too far and maintains our, you know, ratings and debt ratings, we'll certainly give it a good look, but without getting what I call deal fever.

Speaker #1: Now it's 1.6, but it's going to decay rapidly to back towards the one level during the course of this year. So we are still very open to considering further acquisitive steps and if we're positive about it, but again be very discerning so if something comes up that doesn't stretch ourselves too far and maintains our ratings and adapt ratings is that we'll certainly give it a good look, but without getting what I call deal fever.

John Plant: Same time, you know, we think that we'll be able to maintain our share buyback program and also re-look at the dividend. You know, we're in a good zone where, you know, we are deploying a lot of cash for capital expenditure for organic growth, which is always the best source of returns for us, both for margin and for return on capital. Obviously, we have the opportunity of buying back our shares, and you've seen another, I'd say, great execution buying in Q1 at $230. I think today we're well ahead of that. Again, a very accretive position for shareholders.

Speaker #1: And at the same time, we think that we'll be able to maintain our share buyback program and also relook at the dividend. So we're in a good zone where we're deploying a lot of cash for capital expenditure for organic growth, which is always the best source of returns for us, both from margin and for return on capital.

Speaker #1: Then obviously we have the opportunity of buying back our shares and you've seen another I'll say great execution buying in the first quarter at 230.

Speaker #1: I think today we're well ahead of that. So again, a very creative position for shareholders. And I think that beyond that, acquisitions are also something that we should give very active consideration to where we can see both revenue improvement and margin improvement as we go through.

John Plant: I think that, you know, beyond that, acquisitions are also something that we should give very active consideration to, where we can see both revenue improvement and margin improvement as we go through. And still able to keep seeing faith with both buyback and improve our dividend payout. I think it's all good at the moment, Christine.

Speaker #1: And still able to continue, faced with both buyback and improving our dividend payout. So I think it's all good at the moment, Christine.

Speaker #3: Sounds great. Well, thank you very much, John.

Kristine Liwag: Sounds great. Well, thank you very much, John.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

John Plant: Thank you.

Speaker #2: In the next question is from Miles Walton with Wolf Research. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question is from Myles Walton with Wolfe Research. Please proceed.

Speaker #4: Hey, good morning. John, could you comment on where you are relative to capacity on the gas side? I think the first half of this year, I think you're pretty capacity constrained.

Myles Walton: Hey, good morning. John, could you comment on where you are relative to capacity on the gas side? I think, H1 this year, I think you're pretty capacity constrained. Is the growth we're seeing purely price related? At the whole portfolio level, I know you won't give us a specific sum price anymore, but how would you compare it to last year? Do you see a year when year-on-year price increases don't grow?

Speaker #4: And so is the growth we're seeing purely price-related? And then at the whole portfolio level, I know you won't give us a specific sun price anymore, but how would you compare it to last year and do you see a year when price year-on-year price increases don't grow?

Speaker #1: Okay. So the increasing revenue in the first quarter was, I'm going to say, very good. It may be it's more for you to say than me, but I thought 39% was outstanding.

John Plant: Okay. The increase in revenue in the Q1 was, I'm gonna say very good. I mean, maybe, it's more for you to say than me, but I thought 39% was outstanding. As you know, we'd invested at a higher rate in gas turbines in 2024, but it's very modest, like maybe $13 million more than normal. We kicked that up in 2025 and so saw some modest increase in capacity. Essentially, for the H1 of this year, it was going to be more that which we could obtain from yield improvement.

Speaker #1: And as you know, we didn't invested at a higher rate in gas turbines in 2024, but it's very modest, like maybe 30 million more than normal.

Speaker #1: We kicked that up in 2025. And so saw some modest increasing capacity. But essentially for the first half of this year, it was going to be more that which we could obtain from yield improvement.

Speaker #1: Bear in mind we'd also improved our yields and I'd say we were able to increase our total revenue from the gas turbine segment in the second half of last year.

John Plant: Bear in mind, we'd also improved our yields, I'd say we were able to increase our total revenue from the gas turbine segment in H2 of last year. The outcome for this year, which was a lot of volume but some price in that 39%, was great. In fact, again, if I just refer to one of the results in Japan was to see our new manufacturing plant and the first piece of equipment arriving there. Those are now being assembled into working casting furnaces, which will be ready by the July, August timeframe and starting to have their first production by Q4.

Speaker #1: So the outcome for this year, which was a lot of volume, but some price in that 39%, was great. And in fact, again, if I refer to one of the results in Japan was to see our new manufacturing plant in the first pieces of equipment arriving there.

Speaker #1: And those are now being assembled into working casting furnaces, which will be, I'll say, ready by the—I'd say—July-August timeframe. And starting to have their first production by the fourth quarter.

Speaker #1: So capacity is coming on. And that will help as we go towards the back end of the year. But between now and then, it's again, it's going to come mainly from that yield focus that we have.

John Plant: You know, capacity is coming on, and that will help as we go towards the back end of the year. Between now and then, it's again, it's gonna come mainly from that yield focus that we have. The other thing which is happening, and it'll happen progressively, and it is already happening, is that as the volumes have been increasing, it's also given us the opportunity to consider moving, increasingly move from batch production to flow production and with takt time. With that increase of repeatability and flow production, then that in itself is an opportunity where with the application of a lot of engineering effort, again, our yields are increasing.

Speaker #1: The other thing which is happening, and it'll happen progressively, and it is already happening, is that as the volumes have been increasing, it's also given us the opportunity to consider moving increasingly move from batch production to flow production.

Speaker #1: And with tack time and so with that increase of repeatability and flow production, then that in itself is an opportunity where with the application of a lot of engineering effort, again, our yields are increasing.

Speaker #1: And in our guide, we've just been a little bit cautious about when exactly the capacity will come on, what yields we can really drive further in the next few months.

John Plant: In our guide, we've just been a little bit cautious about, you know, when exactly the capacity will come on, what yields we can really drive further in the next few months, because the comps get harder given the production increases we achieved in H2 of last year. We're a bit cautious about it, but at the same time, positive that total gas turbine production will increase progressively during each quarter during 2026. Again, we'll see increases in 2027. We and, in fact, both we and our customers are highly focused on 2027 and 2028 for further production increases because that capacity is really, I mean, is, well, almost desperately needed.

Speaker #1: Because the comps get harder given the production increases we achieved in the second half of last year. So we're a bit cautious about it.

Speaker #1: But at the same time, positive that total gas turbine production will increase progressively. During each quarter, during 2026. And then again, we'll see increases in 27.

Speaker #1: And we and in fact, both we and our customers are highly focused on 27 and 28 for further production increases because that capacity is really I'm going to use the word almost desperately needed.

Speaker #1: And then with another wave of investment that we're doing now, which will really only begin to affect the back end of 28 and going into 2029.

John Plant: With another wave of investment that we're doing now, which will really only begin to affect the back end of 2028 and going into 2029. That's the shape of the, I'll say what we're doing by way of yield, flow production, takt time, capacities that we committed to investment last year flowing into this year, and then what we've been investing in this year and continue to invest in 2027, which will come into to benefit our production in, you know, back end of 2018 to 2029. There's a lot going on and that's what has given me confidence when I think about all those bricks in the wall that we're placing to bring those capacities and therefore future revenue on.

Speaker #1: So that's the shape of the I'll say what we're doing by way of yield, flow production, tack time, capacities that we committed to investment last year flowing into this year.

Speaker #1: And then what we've been investing in this year and continue to invest in 2027. Which will come into benefit our production in the back end of 2018 to 2029.

Speaker #1: So there's a lot going on and that's what has given me confidence when I think about all those bricks in the wall that we're placing.

Speaker #1: To bring those capacities and therefore future revenue on. That's why I talked about us doubling or even more than doubling our revenue from this particular segment.

John Plant: That's why, I talked about us, you know, doubling or even more than doubling our revenue from this particular segment.

Speaker #4: Thanks, John.

Myles Walton: Thanks, John.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Miles.

John Plant: Thanks, Myles.

Speaker #2: In the next question is from David Strauss with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question is from David Strauss with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Speaker #4: Good morning, everyone. John, within the hey, John. Within the 14% organic growth for this year, could you kind of break that out? What's baked into that for aero, defense, and IGT, and I guess transportation wheels?

David Strauss: Morning, everyone.

David Strauss [Managing Director of Equity Research: Morning, everyone.

John Plant: Hey, David.

David Strauss: Hey, John. within the 14% organic growth for this year, could you kind of break that out, what's baked into that for aero, defense and IGT and I guess, transportation wheels, kind of what builds up to that? As we think about 2027 with, you know, the incremental additional capacity coming online, you know, GTF Advantage, LEAP, you know, full year of LEAP-1B, IGT, is it possible that organic growth accelerates in 2027 relative to the 14% you're now calling for in 2026? Thanks.

David Strauss [Managing Director of Equity Research: Hey, John. within the 14% organic growth for this year, could you kind of break that out, what's baked into that for aero, defense and IGT and I guess, transportation wheels, kind of what builds up to that? As we think about 2027 with, you know, the incremental additional capacity coming online, you know, GTF Advantage, LEAP, you know, full year of LEAP-1B, IGT, is it possible that organic growth accelerates in 2027 relative to the 14% you're now calling for in 2026? Thanks.

Speaker #4: Kind of what builds up to that? And as we think about 27 with the incremental additional capacity coming online, GTF Advantage, a full year of LEAP 1B, IGT, is it possible that organic growth accelerates in 27 relative to the 14% you're now calling for in 26?

Speaker #4: Thanks.

John Plant: That's a big one. You know, I think I'm happier talking about 2026 than 2027 at the moment. It's essentially down to, I'd say, the conviction over the aircraft manufacturers, you know, now truly poised to increase their production to the rates they want and also the macroeconomic outlook and probably the effects of inflation on the consumer. There's a lot to be determined before you can be precise about a 2027 growth rate. I'm pretty clear that it's gonna be positive for us. The exact angle of growth yet, you know, I don't think I want to go there until we know more, and I guess we'll know more as we go through the balance of this year.

Speaker #1: That's a big one. I think I'm happier talking about 2026 than 2027 at the moment. And essentially, down to, I'd say, the conviction over the aircraft manufacturers now truly poised to increase their production to the rates they want.

Speaker #1: And also the macroeconomy outlook and probably the effects of inflation on the consumer. So there's a lot to be determined before you can be precise about a 2027 gross rate.

Speaker #1: I'm pretty clear that it's going to be positive for us. The exact angle of growth yet I don't think I want to go there.

Speaker #1: Until we know more and I guess we'll know more as we go through the balance of this year and as you I'm sure in fact, you probably more than most appreciate we're all subject to that daily news cycle of global agreements or not, or maybe it's two or three times a day versus news cycle currently rather than a daily news cycle.

John Plant: As you, I'm sure, in fact you probably more than most appreciate, you know, we're all subject to that daily news cycle of, you know, global agreements or not, or maybe it's 2 or 3 times a day of US news cycle currently, rather than a daily news cycle, and that seems to, you know, weigh heavily on our lives. Dealing with this year, if I look at the guide we've given, I think we're gonna see commercial aero in that in that 20% range, maybe defense in the 10% range.

Speaker #1: And that seems to weigh heavily on our lives. But dealing with this year, if I look at the guide we've given, I think we're going to see commercial aero in that 20% range, maybe defense in that 10% range.

John Plant: Gas turbines somewhere 25%, 30%. Not that it's a fundamental deceleration, but more just the, you know, the year-on-year comps, and I wanna be cautious on how much we can get by way of yield in the next, let's say, 5 to 6 months before that Dutch capacity comes on stream. With a very cautious assumption around commercial transportation at the moment, regarding that business because I mean, freight rates have increased, and that's good. On the other hand, diesel fuel has gone up a lot and we, you know, we also get to, you know, what will happen to GDP and growth rates for the economy and therefore, you know, the amount of transportation required both in North America and Europe in the back end of the year.

Speaker #1: Gas turbines, somewhere around 25%-ish, 30%. Not that it's fundamentally deceleration, but more just the area near comps, and I want to be cautious on how much we can get by way of yield in the next, let's say, five to six months before that production capacity comes on stream.

Speaker #1: And then, with a very cautious assumption around commercial transportation at the moment regarding that business—because, I mean, freight rates have increased, and that's good.

Speaker #1: On the other hand, diesel fuel has gone up a lot and we're all subject to what will happen to GDP and growth rates for the economy and therefore the amount of transportation required, both in the North America and Europe in the back end of the year.

John Plant: You know, while I could believe that commercial truck customers are scheduling more, and they are, without doubt, and there is evidence of some pre-buy from the 2027 regs change in North America. At this point, we've taken a very modest, below 5%, assumption on the commercial transportation market, even though customer schedules are significantly ahead of that. We just want to see that play out, David.

Speaker #1: So while I could believe that commercial truck customers are scheduling more and they are, without doubt, and there is evidence of some pre-buy from the 2027 reg change in North America, at this point, we've taken a very modest below 5% assumption on the commercial transportation market, even though customer schedules are significantly ahead of that.

Speaker #1: And we just want to see that play out, David.

Speaker #4: All right. Thanks, John. Appreciate it.

David Strauss: All right. Thanks, John. Appreciate it.

David Strauss [Managing Director of Equity Research: All right. Thanks, John. Appreciate it.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

John Plant: Thank you.

Speaker #2: And the next question is from Seth Seifman with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question is from Seth Seifman with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thanks very much. And morning, everyone. I wanted to ask in terms of the legacy aftermarket and the potential exposure there in correct me if I'm wrong.

Seth Seifman: Hey, thanks very much, and morning, everyone. I wanted to ask in terms of the legacy aftermarket and the potential exposure there to, you know, to the macro environment, I think and, correct me if I'm wrong, don't wanna put words in your mouth, but I think, John, you've kind of talked before about the expected endurance of the legacy fleet. I assume that it's early to be making any judgments about that, but wondering if you can comment a bit further and talk about some of the things that you're looking for there. Oh, also what-

Speaker #5: I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think, John, you've kind of talked before about the expected endurance of the legacy fleet.

Speaker #5: And I assume that it's early to be making any judgments about that, but wondering if you can comment a bit further and talk about some of the things that you're looking for of the spares is that kind of legacy fleet?

John Plant: Okay.

Seth Seifman: What proportion of the spares is that kind of legacy fleet?

Speaker #1: Yeah. The essential picture is pretty similar to what I've talked about in the past, where we see if you take the CFM range of engines that are starting off with the CFM 56, we expect that production will increase during 2026 and 2027.

John Plant: Yeah. The essential picture is pretty similar to what I've talked about in the past, where we see if you take the CFM range of engines, so starting off with the CFM56, we expect that production will increase during 2026 and 2027. I have no concerns about that. Should it peak in 2028, or is it 2029? It's all gonna depend upon in a new aircraft build. It seems as though any decay will be very modest, so it's gonna be a really good program going forward for many years. We're clear that that's gonna be a growth program for us.

Speaker #1: So I have no concerns about that. And should it peak in 2028, or is it 2029? It's all going to depend upon in the new aircraft build.

Speaker #1: It seems as though any decay will be very modest. So it's going to be a really good program going forward for many years. So we're for us.

John Plant: If you can now go to the LEAP range of engines, we also see that the spares business for that is going to grow continuously every year for the next probably 8, 10 years, you know, don't wanna call it beyond that. Initially, it's probably higher level due to durability issues. Then on the GTF, you know, that is exactly the same, is that, you know, we will be supplying full production level of the existing GTF throughout 2026 and a lot into 2027, while also preparing for the GTF Advantage.

Speaker #1: If you can now go to the LEAP range of engines, we also see that the spares business for that is going to grow continuously every year.

Speaker #1: For the next, probably, 8 to 10 years—and I don't want to call it beyond that. And initially, it's probably at a higher level due to durability issues.

Speaker #1: And then on the GTF, that is. Exactly the same is that we will be supplying full production level of the existing GTF throughout '26 and a lot into '27, while advantage.

John Plant: So we're gonna be, you know, raising rate, and a lot of that is going to be destined for the MRO market, well beyond of the total engine sets that I expect that we'll be producing, for example, in 2027 at full rate. My expectation is that the majority of those are actually gonna go into the MRO network on a refit compared to OE build, even though there will be increased OE build as well. So it's a pretty healthy picture overall for spares, and my expectation for commercial aero is that we're gonna see growth every year for, you know, for the balance of this decade and then beyond. The only thing we're gonna be debating is what's the angle of growth.

Speaker #1: And so we're going to be market well beyond the total engine sets that I expect that we'll be producing, for example, in 2027 at full rate.

Speaker #1: My expectation is that the majority of those are actually going to go into the MRO network. On a refit, compared to OE build, even though they will be increased OE build as well.

Speaker #1: So it's a pretty healthy picture overall for spares. And my expectation for commercial aero is that we're going to see growth every year for the balance of this decade and then beyond.

Speaker #1: The only thing we're going to be debating is what's the angle of growth. I think we're going to see more in the first two or three years or the first couple of years now than we will see in the latter two years of the decade.

John Plant: You know, I think we're gonna see more in the, in the first 2 or 3 years or the first couple of years now than we will see in the, in the latter, you know, 2 years of the decade. Still growing every year. It's a pretty positive part of the portfolio. I think, I mean, Patrick already gave you the numbers as to the total company. It's risen again from 21% of revenues, which was again higher than we'd said to you last year. We said it was getting it to about 20%. We're at 21, Q1 was at 23. You know, we don't know yet, but, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me that we sustain 23% through this year.

Speaker #1: But still growing every year. So it's a piece of pretty positive part of the portfolio. And I think I mean, Patrick already gave you the numbers that as for the total company, it's risen again from 21% of revenues which was, again, higher than we'd said to you last year.

Speaker #1: We said it's getting to about 20%. We're at 21. And first quarter was at 23. And we don't know yet, but I mean, it wouldn't surprise me that we sustained 23% through this year.

Speaker #1: And then depending on OE build, I suspect it could even go higher next year. While also seeing a higher OE build. So but again, you've got to bake in is there a I'll say any macroeconomic upsets, but at this point, it looks okay for us.

John Plant: Depending on OE build, I suspect it could even go higher next year while also seeing a higher OE build. You know, again, you gotta bake in, you know, is there a, I'll say, any macroeconomic upsets? At this point, it looks okay for us. Certainly, the guide we've given you is I don't believe is gonna be blown off course by any agreement or lack of agreement with the Iran situation. That we have in terms of what spares are gonna be required for this year because of the enormous backlogs that we have.

Speaker #1: And certainly, the guide we've given you is I don't believe it's going to be blown off course by any agreement or lack of agreement in with the Iran situation.

Speaker #1: That we have in terms of what spares are going to be required for this year, because of the enormous backlogs that we have.

Speaker #5: Right. Great. Thanks very much.

Seth Seifman: Great. Great. Thanks very much.

Speaker #1: Thank you.

John Plant: Thank you.

Operator: This concludes our question and answer session, as well as today's conference. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect.