Q1 2026 Dine Brands Global Inc Earnings Call

May 6, 2026

Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Dine Brands Q1 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star one one on your telephone. You will hear an automated message advising that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host, Matthew Lee, Senior Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

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Speaker #2: Good morning, and welcome to Dine Brands Global's First Quarter Fiscal 2026 conference call. This morning's call will include prepared remarks from John Peyton, CEO and President of Applebee's, and Vance Chang, CFO.

Matthew Lee: Good morning, welcome to Dine Brands Global's Q1 fiscal 2026 conference call. This morning's call will include prepared remarks from John Peyton, CEO and President of Applebee's, and Vance Chang, CFO. Following those prepared remarks, Lawrence Kim, President of IHOP, will also be available, along with John and Vance, to address questions during the Q&A portion of the call. Please remember our safe harbor regarding forward-looking information. During the call, management will discuss information that is forward-looking and involves known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors which may cause the actual results to be different than those expressed or implied. Please evaluate the forward-looking information in the context of these factors, which are detailed in today's press release and 10-K filing. The forward-looking statements are as of today. We assume no obligation to update or supplement these statements.

Speaker #2: Following those prepared remarks, Lawrence Kim, President of IHOP, will also be available, along with John and Vance, to address questions during the Q&A portion of the call.

Speaker #2: Please remember our Safe Harbor regarding forward-looking information. During the call, management will discuss information that is forward-looking and involves known and unknown risk, uncertainties, and other factors, which may cause the actual results to be different than those expressed or implied.

Speaker #2: Please evaluate the forward-looking information in the context of these factors, which are detailed in today's press release and 10-key filing. The forward-looking statements are as of today and we assume no obligation to update or supplement these statements.

Speaker #2: We will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which are described in our press release and available on the Dine Brands investor relations website. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Dine Brands CEO, John Peyton.

Matthew Lee: We will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures which are described in our press release and available on Dine Brands' investor relations website. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Dine Brands' CEO, John Peyton.

Speaker #3: Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. Today, I'll walk through Dine's Q1 results, and share insights on consumer behavior, as well as our brand's performance in the current environment.

John Peyton: Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. Today, I'll walk through Dine's Q1 results and share insights on consumer behavior as well as our brand's performance in the current environment. Then I'll hand it over to Vance for a deeper dive into our financials. We started the year building upon the momentum from last quarter, achieving flat to positive sales growth across all three brands for the first time in several years. This performance reflects progress against our key priorities, which include enhancing the guest experience through operational improvements, strengthening and simplifying our marketing to better connect with guests, particularly through more targeted, culturally relevant engagement, and advancing menu innovation and everyday value platforms to meet evolving consumer needs.

Speaker #3: And then I'll hand it over to Vance for a deeper dive into our financials. We started the year building upon the momentum from last quarter, achieving flat to positive sales growth across all three brands for the first time in several years.

Speaker #3: This performance reflects progress against our key priorities, which include enhancing the guest experience through operational improvements; strengthening and simplifying our marketing to better connect with guests, particularly through more targeted, culturally relevant engagement; and advancing menu innovation and everyday value platforms to meet evolving consumer needs.

Speaker #3: As the quarter progressed, the operating environment became more dynamic and, in many ways, more challenging as inflation for food away from home and higher gas prices put a strain on households.

John Peyton: As the quarter progressed, the operating environment became more dynamic and in many ways more challenging as inflation for food away from home and higher gas prices put a strain on households. With consumer sentiment declining to historically low levels, discretionary spending has become harder to justify, prompting some guests to more carefully evaluate lower cost alternatives across restaurants, grocery, and other food channels. We're seeing the most pressure on lower income consumers, and as a result, this is driving greater focus on offerings that combine compelling price points with quality, abundance, and differentiated experiences like Applebee's 2 for $25 platform and IHOP's everyday value menu. Against this backdrop, the importance of our strategy and the relevance of our brands becomes even more central to our performance.

Speaker #3: With consumer sentiment declining to historically low levels, discretionary spending has become harder to justify, prompting some guests to more carefully evaluate lower-cost alternatives across restaurants, grocery, and other food channels.

Speaker #3: We're seeing the most pressure on lower-income consumers, and as a result, this is driving greater focus on offerings that combine compelling price points with quality abundance and differentiated experiences, like Applebee's 2 for 25 platform and IHOP's everyday value menu.

Speaker #3: Against this backdrop, the importance of our strategy and the relevance of our brands becomes even more central to our performance. We operate scaled, well-recognized brands built around value and everyday occasions, and offer experiences that can't be easily replicated at home, delivered at an accessible price point.

John Peyton: We operate scaled, well-recognized brands built around value and everyday occasions and offering experiences that can't be easily replicated at home, delivered at an accessible price point. This remains a strength of our business, even within a more challenging landscape. While we recognize there's more work to do to strengthen our financial performance this year, we are pleased with our Q1 sales performance and believe our focus on value, cultural relevance, and disciplined execution positions us well to compete and deliver sustainable results. I'll turn now to our key financial highlights for the quarter. All of our brands outperformed Black Box on comp sales. Applebee's reported a 1.9% increase in comp sales, and IHOP posted flat comps despite weather impacting Applebee's by 94 basis points and IHOP by 80 basis points in the quarter.

Speaker #3: This remains a strength of our business, even within a more challenging landscape. And while we recognize there's more work to do to strengthen our financial performance this year, we are pleased with our first quarter sales performance and believe our focus on value, cultural relevance, and disciplined execution positions us well to compete and deliver sustainable results.

Speaker #3: So I'll turn now to our key financial highlights for the quarter. All of our brands outperform black box on comp sales. Applebee's reported a 1.9% increase in comp sales and IHOP posted flat comps, despite weather impacting Applebee's by 94 basis points and IHOP by 80 basis points in the quarter.

Speaker #3: Our EBITDA was 50.8 million dollars, compared to 54.7 million in the same quarter last year. Our decreased profitability reflects our investments in our dual brands and company-owned portfolio initiatives.

John Peyton: Our EBITDA was $50.8 million compared to $54.7 million in the same quarter last year. Our decreased profitability reflects our investments in our dual brands and company owned portfolio initiatives, we expect these current investments to create value over the long term. Last, we returned $24 million of capital back to shareholders. Overall, our results reflect the balance between continued investment in the business and solid top line performance across the portfolio. Now with that, I'll share some updates across our portfolio, starting with Applebee's. Building on our sales momentum from 2025, Applebee's posted positive comp sales in Q1, outperforming Black Box. The continued focus of our 2 for $25 value platform and new menu innovation served as our primary sales drivers as these initiatives continue to resonate with our guests.

Speaker #3: And we expect these current investments to create value over the long term. And last, we returned $24 million of capital back to shareholders.

Speaker #3: Overall, our results reflect a balance between continued investment in the business and solid top-line performance across the portfolio. And now, with that, I'll share some updates across our portfolio, starting with Applebee's.

Operator: You will hear an automated message advising that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host, Matthew Lee, Senior Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

John Peyton: Our strategy this quarter remained consistent, communicating new menu innovation through the high impact targeted marketing and maintaining strong execution in the restaurants. Rather than relying on broad-based campaigns, we're leaning into our 2 for $25 value platform and demand-led activations tied to cultural moments, allowing us to connect more efficiently and compete more effectively for share of wallet. The All-In Burger launch is an example of our value strategy in action. Since its introduction in January, the burger has driven high interest and engagement, supported by its compelling $11.99 price point and inclusion on our 2 for $25 value platform. In just a few months, it became the highest ordered burger on that platform, reinforcing Applebee's everyday value positioning. Because All-In Burger launched in time for Valentine's Day, we further pushed our 2 for platform to deliver an affordable yet experiential date night occasion.

Matthew Lee: During the call, management will discuss information that is forward-looking and involves known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors which may cause the actual results to be different than those expressed or implied. Please evaluate the forward-looking information in the context of these factors, which are detailed in today's press release and Form 10-K filing. The forward-looking statements are as of today. We assume no obligation to update or supplement these statements.

John Peyton: The All-In Burger news generated more than 9 billion impressions, reached 96 million people on social media, and sparked nearly 80 times more organic reviews than typical campaigns. By providing guests with incredible value during this seasonal moment, it drove the highest single day sales volume in Applebee's history, with the full week ranking among the top five sales weeks ever. Across digital channels, off-premise comp sales increased approximately 3.5% in the quarter, supported by third party delivery and targeted promotions tied to key occasions like the Super Bowl and the NCAA basketball tournament. From an operations standpoint, our strategy is centered around driving excellence through simplicity, focus, and accountability. We are implementing initiatives that simplify kitchen operations, increase manager presence in the dining room, and improve off-premise order accuracy.

John Peyton: This performance reflects progress against our key priorities, which include enhancing the guest experience through operational improvements, strengthening and simplifying our marketing to better connect with guests, particularly through more targeted, culturally relevant engagement, and advancing menu innovation and everyday value platforms to meet evolving consumer needs.

John Peyton: In fact, during the quarter, manager visibility contributed to higher guest satisfaction scores, as reflected in improved guest surveys and Google Reviews scores. As part of these efforts, we're also preparing for a system-wide launch of a new Toast point of sale platform. We expect this to meaningfully increase beverage order incidences, reduce voids, and increase tips while providing better data and tools for our teams. Collectively, these efforts position us to operate more efficiently and support long-term growth. While April sales have softened against tougher prior year comps, our focus on value, targeted marketing, and operational discipline will support our performance in a dynamic environment. Now turning to IHOP. For the second consecutive quarter, IHOP outperformed Black Box in both sales and traffic, and that's in a category where traffic remains under pressure.

John Peyton: We're seeing the most pressure on lower income consumers, and as a result, this is driving greater focus on offerings that combine compelling price points with quality, abundance, and differentiated experiences like Applebee's 2 for $25 platform and IHOP's everyday value menu. Against this backdrop, the importance of our strategy and the relevance of our brands becomes even more central to our performance.

John Peyton: This reflects the brand's focus on great value, product innovation, culture-driven marketing, and an improved guest experience, all of which are helping to build momentum. Comp sales were primarily supported by check improvement as we balanced IHOP's everyday value menu with increased awareness of premium offerings. Breakfast combos tied to our Bottomless Pancakes campaign performed well alongside limited time offerings, including this quarter's featured spotlight stack, New York Cheesecake Pancakes. This approach continues in Q2 with the promotion of IHOP's signature stuffed and stacked omelets, including the new Bold BBQ Pulled Pork Omelette and the launch of a new proprietary coffee blend, the first new coffee introduced at IHOP in almost 20 years. IHOP continued to see momentum in off-premise, with comp sales increasing 2.6% year over year, largely driven by incremental third-party delivery volume.

John Peyton: I'll turn now to our key financial highlights for the quarter. All of our brands outperformed Black Box on comp sales. Applebee's reported a 1.9% increase in comp sales, and IHOP posted flat comps despite weather impacting Applebee's by 94 basis points and IHOP by 80 basis points in the quarter.

John Peyton: Beyond driving comp sales, third-party channels enhance brand visibility and enable engagement with guests across multiple channels. Off-premise represents 22% of sales, with continued opportunity across delivery, digital ordering, and emerging areas like catering. While early, we're already seeing an approximately 16% improvement in comp sales and catering, and we've made targeted investments over the past year in digital ordering, packaging, and local store marketing to further support the catering channel. IHOP's differentiated breakfast offering translates well to group occasions, and we're seeing meaningful upside on this channel as it continues to scale. Beyond expanding how guests access the brand, we're also focused on how to connect with them. We're showing up in culturally relevant moments that have resulted in incredible buzz for IHOP, allowing us to engage with new fans and consumers.

John Peyton: Now with that, I'll share some updates across our portfolio, starting with Applebee's. Building on our sales momentum from 2025, Applebee's posted positive comp sales in Q1, outperforming Black Box. The continued focus of our 2 for $25 value platform and new menu innovation served as our primary sales drivers as these initiatives continue to resonate with our guests.

John Peyton: Initiatives like National Pancake Day and the Bottomless Pancake campaign with NFL star Malik Nabers have been successful in driving engagement and keeping the brand top of mind with guests. During National Pancake Day, we saw a 316% year over year increase in engagement across social channels, demonstrating the effectiveness of our investments to reach a broader audience. Underpinning all of this is a relentless focus on operational excellence and the guest experience. Speed is progressively improving with table turns that are approximately 6% faster than they were in Q4. Guest complaints are down year over year, reflecting strong execution and consistency across the system, while investments in our new POS and handhelds continue to enhance order accuracy and efficiency in our restaurants.

John Peyton: Since its introduction in January, the burger has driven high interest and engagement, supported by its compelling $11.99 price point and inclusion on our 2 for $25 value platform. In just a few months, it became the highest ordered burger on that platform, reinforcing Applebee's everyday value positioning. Because All-In Burger launched in time for Valentine's Day, we further pushed our 2 for platform to deliver an affordable yet experiential date night occasion.

John Peyton: Overall, IHOP continues to deliver steady performance in a challenging environment, with April sales holding steady behind our value menu and barbell strategy with premium offerings. Now to discuss Fuzzy's. The momentum from our Q4 promotions carried into Q1, contributing to Fuzzy's posting positive comp sales for the first time in 3 years and enabling the brand to outperform its competitors in sales every month in Q1. This progress is a result of the hard work we've done to strengthen the business with a focus on improving technology, streamlining the menu, and enhancing the in-restaurant experience. We're encouraged by Fuzzy's performance this quarter and remain focused on sustaining and building on this progress. Now for dual brands. It's been 1 year since we opened our first domestic dual brand in Seguin, Texas, and our confidence in the platform continues to grow.

John Peyton: Across digital channels, off-premise comp sales increased approximately 3.5% in the quarter, supported by third party delivery and targeted promotions tied to key occasions like the Super Bowl and the NCAA basketball tournament. From an operations standpoint, our strategy is centered around driving excellence through simplicity, focus, and accountability. We are implementing initiatives that simplify kitchen operations, increase manager presence in the dining room, and improve off-premise order accuracy.

John Peyton: Across the system, most of these restaurants are generating about 1.5 to 2.5 times the sales of the original standalone restaurant while maintaining a healthy check balance across both brands. The Seguin restaurant is still delivering roughly 2 times its pre-conversion sales levels. Today, we've got 43 dual brand restaurants open with 13 additional locations under construction, and we remain on track to have approximately 80 open domestically by year end. Interest in our dual brands remains strong among existing and new franchisees. In fact, we now have 10 different operators that have opened a dual brand restaurant, and of these, 2 are new franchisees to the Dine system. The dual brand model provides a flexible path to unlock additional value across our existing footprint.

John Peyton: Collectively, these efforts position us to operate more efficiently and support long-term growth. While April sales have softened against tougher prior year comps, our focus on value, targeted marketing, and operational discipline will support our performance in a dynamic environment. Now turning to IHOP. For the second consecutive quarter, IHOP outperformed Black Box in both sales and traffic, and that's in a category where traffic remains under pressure.

John Peyton: It allows franchisees to reposition lower performing restaurants, including those that may have otherwise reached the natural end of their life cycle, while also enhancing performance at higher sales restaurants. In fact, a long-standing Applebee's franchisee opened its first dual brand in Hawthorne, New York, just a month ago. The successful conversion of a high sales single brand restaurant validates the dual brand model is adaptable and scalable across a range of sales profiles. The unit was already a strong performing restaurant, and since converting and reopening in March, it has delivered an approximately 1.8 times sales lift. During the last few months, we've learned more about these restaurants from a guest perspective. A few highlights include that guests are excited to have the option to choose between 2 complimentary iconic brands. 62% of our dine-in tickets contain at least one item from each brand.

John Peyton: This approach continues in Q2 with the promotion of IHOP's signature stuffed and stacked omelets, including the new Bold BBQ Pulled Pork Omelette and the launch of a new proprietary coffee blend, the first new coffee introduced at IHOP in almost 20 years. IHOP continued to see momentum in off-premise, with comp sales increasing 2.6% year over year, largely driven by incremental third-party delivery volume.

John Peyton: Guests who do purchase from both brands are spending on average 24% more than those who purchase from just one brand, leading to an overall higher check average at the dual brand restaurants. Lastly, sales remain balanced across all day parts, proving our thesis about the complementary nature of these brands. We also made operational improvements, including updating our online ordering flow to make the experience more seamless for guests, which has driven an increase in average off-premise check and improving efficiencies in back-of-house operations, such as kitchen design. We continue to improve our pre-opening training at restaurants and are seeing newer restaurants achieve faster table turn times. Taken together, these results reinforce our confidence in dual brands as a big idea and a compelling growth vehicle, driving strong unit economics and continued franchisee demand. Now turning to our broader development initiatives.

John Peyton: IHOP's differentiated breakfast offering translates well to group occasions, and we're seeing meaningful upside on this channel as it continues to scale. Beyond expanding how guests access the brand, we're also focused on how to connect with them. We're showing up in culturally relevant moments that have resulted in incredible buzz for IHOP, allowing us to engage with new fans and consumers.

John Peyton: We maintained momentum this quarter in new restaurant openings, opening 24, up from 10 at this time last year. We remain on track to meet our full year domestic development guidance. Development remains a key priority for long-term growth driven by our dual brand formats, the Applebee's Looking Good remodel program, and targeted investments in our company-owned portfolio. In addition to new unit growth, we're also seeing meaningful opportunity within our existing footprint through relocations and real estate optimization. Two recent new restaurant openings are relocations within their existing markets. While early, in both cases, sales increased over 50% compared to the prior location, highlighting both the continued relevance of the brand and the importance of site selection in unlocking incremental growth. We made progress on the Applebee's Looking Good remodel program, completing 11 remodels this quarter.

John Peyton: Underpinning all of this is a relentless focus on operational excellence and the guest experience. Speed is progressively improving with table turns that are approximately 6% faster than they were in Q4. Guest complaints are down year over year, reflecting strong execution and consistency across the system, while investments in our new POS and handhelds continue to enhance order accuracy and efficiency in our restaurants.

John Peyton: This program has consistent engagement among franchisees, early results remain encouraging with, on average, a mid-single-digit percent sales lift, and we expect about a third of the system to be remodeled by year-end. At IHOP, we're beginning a 3-year renovation cycle with a fresh modern design called California Heritage. It's a light, bright, and joy-filled design that brings a warm, welcoming feel to the restaurant while staying unmistakably IHOP. Before turning the call over to Vance Chang, I do want to note that while we expect to see some near-term headwinds, we remain focused on executing against our priorities and positioning the business to drive sustainable long-term growth in this challenging environment. Now I'll turn the call over to Vance Chang.

John Peyton: This progress is a result of the hard work we've done to strengthen the business with a focus on improving technology, streamlining the menu, and enhancing the in-restaurant experience. We're encouraged by Fuzzy's performance this quarter and remain focused on sustaining and building on this progress. Now for dual brands. It's been 1 year since we opened our first domestic dual brand in Seguin, Texas, and our confidence in the platform continues to grow.

Vance Chang: Thanks, John. You know, on top line, consolidated total revenues increased 4.8% to $225.2 million in Q1 versus $214.8 million in the prior year. It's primarily driven by the acquisition of company-owned restaurants since Q1 of 2025. If we take out advertising revenues, franchise revenues in Q1 decreased 2.1%, primarily due to a decrease in proprietary product sales and performance of our international franchisees. Increases in comp sales for the quarter were offset by closures. Rental segment revenues for Q1 of 2026 were consistent with the prior year period.

Vance Chang: G&A expenses were $53.1 million in Q1 of 2026, up from $51.3 million in the same period of last year due to annualization of last year's investments in training, development, and operations to support our remodeling, dual brand initiatives, and our larger company restaurant portfolio. Adjusted EBITDA for Q1 of 2026 decreased to $50.8 million from $54.7 million in Q1 of 2025, primarily driven by the following factors. First, IHOP's proprietary product sales decreased due to sales timing to our distribution partners. Second, we have more company restaurants and dual brand restaurant openings than last year that resulted in higher G&A and pre-opening support costs. In addition, EBITDA was impacted by restaurants taking back since the prior year quarter, which are still in turnaround stage and not yet at steady state.

John Peyton: Interest in our dual brands remains strong among existing and new franchisees. In fact, we now have 10 different operators that have opened a dual brand restaurant, and of these, 2 are new franchisees to the Dine system. The dual brand model provides a flexible path to unlock additional value across our existing footprint.

John Peyton: The unit was already a strong performing restaurant, and since converting and reopening in March, it has delivered an approximately 1.8 times sales lift. During the last few months, we've learned more about these restaurants from a guest perspective. A few highlights include that guests are excited to have the option to choose between 2 complimentary iconic brands. 62% of our dine-in tickets contain at least one item from each brand.

Vance Chang: I'll touch further on the progress we have seen in our company restaurants, particularly around the dual brand conversions in a moment. Adjusted diluted EPS for Q1 of 2026 was $1.07 compared to adjusted diluted EPS of $1.03 before Q1 of 2025. Now turning to the statement of cash flows. We had adjusted free cash flow of -$3 million for the first three months of 2026 compared to $14.6 million for the same period of last year, primarily driven by higher CapEx for company restaurants and year-over-year impact of performance plan compensation payments. CapEx through Q1 of 2026 was $12.1 million compared to $3.3 million for the same period of 2025.

Vance Chang: Nearly two-thirds of the CapEx year to date is tied to remodels and dual brand conversions of company-owned restaurants. Our lower adjusted free cash flow and increased CapEx this quarter is timing as we expect to end the year with CapEx being in the range that we previously provided. We finished our Q1 with total unrestricted cash of $104.2 million compared to unrestricted cash of $128.2 million at the end of the Q4 last year. On buybacks and dividends, we returned $24 million of capital to shareholders in Q1, including $22 million of share repurchases, which was approximately 5% of our shares outstanding at the beginning of the year. Our total shares repurchases during Q4 and Q1 were $52 million, which is above what we had committed to on our Q3 2025 call.

John Peyton: We continue to improve our pre-opening training at restaurants and are seeing newer restaurants achieve faster table turn times. Taken together, these results reinforce our confidence in dual brands as a big idea and a compelling growth vehicle, driving strong unit economics and continued franchisee demand. Now turning to our broader development initiatives.

We finished the first quarter with total unrestricted, cash of 104.2 million, compared to unrestricted cash of 128.2 million at the end of the fourth quarter last year.

Vance Chang: We continue to believe our shares are undervalued and remain committed to share repurchases. Next, let me discuss Applebee's performance. Q1 same-restaurant sales increased 1.9% year-over-year. Domestic average weekly franchise sales per restaurant were $56.3 thousand, including approximately $13.5 thousand from off-premise or 23.9% of total sales, of which 11.9% is from to-go and 12.1% is from delivery. Off-premise saw a positive 3.5% lift in comp sales in 2026 compared to the same period last year. IHOP's Q1 same-restaurant sales were flat. Domestic average weekly franchise sales per restaurant were $38.3 thousand, including $8.3 thousand from off-premise or 21.5% of total sales, of which 7.5% is from to-go and 14% is from delivery. All right.

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John Peyton: Two recent new restaurant openings are relocations within their existing markets. While early, in both cases, sales increased over 50% compared to the prior location, highlighting both the continued relevance of the brand and the importance of site selection in unlocking incremental growth. We made progress on the Applebee's Looking Good remodel program, completing 11 remodels this quarter.

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Q1, same restaurant sales, increase 1.9% year-over-year domestic average weekly franchise sales per restaurant were 56.3 thousand dollars, including approximately 13.5 thousand dollars from off premise or 23.9% of total sales of which 11.9% is from to go and 12.1% is from delivery.

Off premise of positive 3.5% left in, comp sales in 2026, compared to the same period last year.

John Peyton: Before turning the call over to Vance Chang, I do want to note that while we expect to see some near-term headwinds, we remain focused on executing against our priorities and positioning the business to drive sustainable long-term growth in this challenging environment. Now I'll turn the call over to Vance Chang.

Vance Chang: Turning to commodities. Applebee's commodity costs in Q1 increased by 6.3%, IHOP commodity costs increased by 3% versus the prior year. Our supply chain co-op, CSCS, continues to expect commodity costs in 2026 at mid-single digits for Applebee's, low single digits for IHOP. The primary driver for both brands' commodity costs is higher beef prices, including the lapping of favorable beef contracts at Applebee's. To date, in 2026, we implemented projects resulting in over $4 million of NOI savings across both systems, we continue to partner with CSCS to leverage our scale. Lastly, our company-owned portfolio remains instrumental in strengthening brand performance and supporting the overall health of our system, our goal is to ultimately refranchise the locations at the right time.

IHOP's q1, same restaurant sales were flat domestic average weekly franchise sales per restaurant worth 38.3 thousand dollars, including 8.3% from our premise, or 21.5% of total sales of which 7.5% is from, to go, and 14% is from delivery. All right. Turning to commodities.

Applebees commodity costs in q1, increase by 6.3% and IHOP commodity costs, increase by 3% versus the prior year. Our supply chain co-ops cscs continues to expect commodity costs in 2026 at this single digits for Applebees and low. Single digits for IHOP

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Today in 2026 we implemented projects resulting in over 4 million dollars of annualized savings across both systems and we continue to partner with cscs to leverage our scale.

Vance Chang: At the end of Q1, we operated 86 company-owned restaurants totaling about 2% of our system, which is in line with our asset-light model. This includes 12 Applebee's restaurants that we opportunistically took back in February of this year in the Virginia area, with the potential to complete approximately 5 dual brand conversions out of this portfolio. As it's been reported, one of our franchisees, Neighborhood Restaurant Partners, filed for bankruptcy protection. As part of its proposed plan, they're selling approximately 53 restaurants. Dine is stepping in as a stalking horse bidder because we believe that securing these restaurants gives us direct operational insight and allows us to invest in the units through our development initiatives. Closures for construction impacted profitability of our company-owned portfolio, we're making progress. In Q1, comp sales outperformed system with close to a mid-single digit comp sales improvement year-over-year.

Lastly, our company-owned portfolio remains instrumental in strengthening brand performance and supporting the overall health of our system. And our goal is to ultimately be franchise the locations at the right time.

At the end of q1, we operated 86 company on restaurants totaling about 2% of our system which is in line with our asset like model and this includes 12. Apple Applebee's restaurants that we opportunistically took back in February of this year in the Virginia area with the potential to complete approximately 5 dual brand conversions out of this portfolio.

Vance Chang: First, IHOP's proprietary product sales decreased due to sales timing to our distribution partners. Second, we have more company restaurants and dual brand restaurant openings than last year that resulted in higher G&A and pre-opening support costs. In addition, EBITDA was impacted by restaurants taking back since the prior year quarter, which are still in turnaround stage and not yet at steady state.

Is stepping in as a stocking, horse bidder, because we believe that securing these restaurants gives us direct operational insight and allows us to invest in the units.

Through our development initiatives.

Vance Chang: During the quarter, we completed 6 remodels and 2 dual brand conversions, bringing our total to 20 remodels and 4 dual brand conversions since taking back these restaurants. By the end of 2026, we expect to have completed or under construction over 30 remodels and 8-plus dual brands. While early, we're seeing success at our 4 company dual brand restaurants with sales lift of approximately 2.5 times, which further supports our confidence in our dual brand strategy. Before turning the call back over to John for Q&A, I'd like to add that we are maintaining our full year financial guidance at this time. With that, I will hand it back over to John.

Although closures for construction impacted profitability of our company-owned portfolio, we're making progress in q1. Cam sales, outperform system with close to a mid single digit, comp sales Improvement year-over-year. And during the quarter, we completed 6 remodels and 2 dual brand conversions. Bringing our total to 20 remodels and 4 dual brand conversions since taking back these restaurants.

Vance Chang: We had adjusted free cash flow of -$3 million for the first three months of 2026 compared to $14.6 million for the same period of last year, primarily driven by higher CapEx for company restaurants and year-over-year impact of performance plan compensation payments. CapEx through Q1 of 2026 was $12.1 million compared to $3.3 million for the same period of 2025.

By the end of 2026, we expect to have completed or under construction over 30 remodels and 8 plus dual brands.

While early, we're seeing success at our 4 company, dual brand restaurants with sales lift of approximately 2.5 times, which further supports our confidence in our dual brand strategy.

John Peyton: Thank you, Vance. To wrap up, we're pleased with the start to the year and are confident that our strategy will enable us to navigate near-term headwinds. We remain focused on disciplined execution, supporting our franchisees, and investing in initiatives that position us for sustainable long-term growth. Thank you so much for your time today. We look forward to your questions. Now, operator, I'll turn it back to you for instructions on how to access our queue.

Before turning the call back over to John for Q&A, I’d like to add that we are maintaining our full-year financial guidance at this time. With that, I will hand it back over to John.

Thank you. That to wrap up. We're pleased with the start to the year and are confident that our strategy will enable us to navigate near-term headwinds.

We remain focused on disciplined execution, supporting our franchises and investing in initiatives, that position us for sustainable long-term growth.

Operator: Certainly. Ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. You may get back in the queue as time allows. Our first question for today comes from the line of Jeffrey Bernstein from Barclays. Your question, please.

Thank you so much for your time today. We look forward to your questions and now operator, I'll turn it back to you for instructions on how to access our Cube.

Vance Chang: On buybacks and dividends, we returned $24 million of capital to shareholders in Q1, including $22 million of share repurchases, which was approximately 5% of our shares outstanding at the beginning of the year. Our total shares repurchases during Q4 and Q1 were $52 million, which is above what we had committed to on our Q3 2025 call.

Certainly and ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to 1 question and 1 follow-up. You may get back in the queue as time allows

Our first question for today comes from the line of Jeffrey Bernstein from barklay. Your question, please.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Great. Thank you very much. My first question is just on the comp trends more recently. John, I think you mentioned that the Applebee's comp slowed, you referenced perhaps it was due to a tougher compare. I'm just wondering how you think about that maybe on more of a relevant 2-year basis, kind of what the underlying trend is. Because you did talk about, I guess, the lower income, which is the focus for your brands, perhaps a little bit more vulnerable. Just wondering if you could talk a little bit about that and maybe whether the spike in gas prices you think had an outsized hit or maybe what you've seen in the past in such instances. I had 1 follow-up.

Great, thank you very much. My first question is just on the comp trends more recently. Um, John, I think you mentioned that the Applebee's comp slowed.

A reference perhaps it was due to a tougher compared. So I'm just wondering how you think about that maybe on more of a relevant 2-year basis kind of what the underlying trend is.

John Peyton: Hey, good morning, Jeffrey. It's John. That's exactly the answer. You know, our value conscious guest, our price sensitive guest is very sensitive to increases in gas prices and the basics and the cost of living. There's a lot of statistical data broadly and within our company that demonstrates that, and that's exactly what we think we saw happening in April. We're encouraged by even today's news, where it seems to be lessening a little bit. More broadly, that just reinforces our strategy around making sure that we have the right value message at Applebee's for those guests that are price sensitive, we continue to lean into the 2 for $25 message, strengthened by new and exciting news. Last quarter was All-In Burger, and we'll have something new in this quarter as well.

You did talk about, I guess the lower income, which is the focus for your Brands um perhaps a little bit more vulnerable. So just wondering um, if you could talk a little bit about that and maybe whether the spike in gas prices, you think had an outsized hit or maybe what you've seen in the past in such instances and then I had 1 follow up.

Vance Chang: Off-premise saw a positive 3.5% lift in comp sales in 2026 compared to the same period last year. IHOP's Q1 same-restaurant sales were flat. Domestic average weekly franchise sales per restaurant were $38.3 thousand, including $8.3 thousand from off-premise or 21.5% of total sales, of which 7.5% is from to-go and 14% is from delivery. All right.

And hey, good morning Jeff. It's John uh, that's exactly the answer. You know, our our value conscious guest, our price sensitive guest is very sensitive to increases in gas prices and the basics and the cost of living. Um there's a lot of statistical data broadly and within our company that demonstrates that and that's exactly what.

We think we saw happening. Um, in April, um, we're encouraged by uh even today's news where it seems to be um, lessening a little bit. But more broadly, that just reinforces our strategy around, making sure that we have the right value message uh at Applebee's for those guests that are priced sensitive. Um we continue to lean into the 2 for 25 message. Uh, strengthened by new new and exciting news last quarter, it was om Cheeseburger um and we'll have something new in this quarter as well.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Got it. My follow-up is just on the asset base. One, just the dual brands. I think you confirmed 80 in the US by year-end. Just wondering where you think that could go over time. Seemingly, you're picking some markets where you think it'll work best, but clearly that is a very strong sales lift you're seeing. Where the dual brand mix could go over time, and just more broadly that franchisee, since they're the ones driving it, presumably how their engagement has been of late, whether they seem to be more open to the idea, whether just opening more Applebee's on their own or opening more of the dual brands in future years. Thank you.

Got it and my follow-up is just on the the asset base 1. Just the the Dual Brands, I think it confirmed 80 in the US by year end. Um, just wondering where you think that could go over time

Vance Chang: To date, in 2026, we implemented projects resulting in over $4 million of NOI savings across both systems, we continue to partner with CSCS to leverage our scale. Lastly, our company-owned portfolio remains instrumental in strengthening brand performance and supporting the overall health of our system, our goal is to ultimately refranchise the locations at the right time.

Seemingly, you're picking some markets, where it, you think it'll work best, but clearly, that is a very strong sales lift, you're seeing so where the Dual brand mix could go over time. Um, and just more broadly, that franchisee since they're the ones driving it.

John Peyton: Yeah. We've done work where we've looked at and modeled the opportunities across the country. We've concluded based upon our analysis, and that analysis includes, I think what you would expect, right? We look at the size of the market, we look at the demographics, we look at the competition, we look at the traffic in and out of the market during the day, et cetera. We've identified 900 opportunities in the US to open a dual brand restaurant or convert an existing restaurant to a dual that would have minimal to no impact on an existing restaurant. Of those 900 restaurants, Jeff, 450 would be new builds, and 450 would be adding a second brand to an existing restaurant. We think that that's achievable over the next 8 to 10 years.

Presumably how their engagement has been of late, um, whether they seem to be more open to the idea of whether just opening more Applebees on their own or opening more of the Dual brands in future Years. Thank you.

Vance Chang: As part of its proposed plan, they're selling approximately 53 restaurants. Dine is stepping in as a stalking horse bidder because we believe that securing these restaurants gives us direct operational insight and allows us to invest in the units through our development initiatives. Closures for construction impacted profitability of our company-owned portfolio, we're making progress. In Q1, comp sales outperformed system with close to a mid-single digit comp sales improvement year-over-year.

John Peyton: In terms of franchisee enthusiasm, it's actually growing. Our pipeline is strengthening. We are very confident in the 80 that we've talked about for this year, and we're building a pipeline that goes into 2027 and beyond. That pipeline includes franchisees that are gonna be new to the dual brand system, and it's becoming equally balanced between existing Applebee's and existing IHOP franchisees.

Yeah so we we've done work where we've looked at and modeled the opportunities across the country and we've concluded based upon our analysis. And that analysis includes, I think what you would expect, right? We look at the size of the market. We look at the demographics. We look at the competition. We look at the traffic in, and out of the market. During the day, Etc. And we've identified 900 opportunities in the US to open a dual brand restaurant or convert an existing restaurant to a duel, um, that would have minimal to no impact on an existing restaurant and of those 900 restaurants, Jeff. Um, 450 would be new builds and 450 would be adding a second brand to an existing restaurant and we think that that's achievable over the next 8 to 10 years in terms of franchisee enthusiasm.

Very confident in the 80 that we've talked about for this year and we're building a pipeline that goes into 2027. Um, and Beyond. Uh, we are, uh, that pipeline includes franchisees that are going to be new to the Dual brand system. Um and it's becoming equally balanced between existing Applebee's and existing IHOP, franchises

Jeffrey Bernstein: Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nick Setyan from Mizuho. Your question please.

Thank you. And our next question comes from Mala in the next session from mizo your question, please.

Vance Chang: While early, we're seeing success at our 4 company dual brand restaurants with sales lift of approximately 2.5 times, which further supports our confidence in our dual brand strategy. Before turning the call back over to John for Q&A, I'd like to add that we are maintaining our full year financial guidance at this time. With that, I will hand it back over to John.

Nick Setyan: Thank you. The, the guidance, I guess the EBITDA guidance, can you just update us on approximately, you know, how much in terms of investments in company-owned stores is embedded in that guidance?

John Peyton: Yes, Nick, Vance will take that question.

Thank you. Um, the the the guidance uh, I guess the IBA dog guidance. Can you just update us on approximately? You know how much, um, in terms of investments in company-owned stores um is is embedded in in in that guidance

Vance Chang: Hey, Nick. Good morning. You know, with company specifically, right, we said we're keeping the guidance and Q1 EBITDA was a little bit softer, but we're maintaining guidance for really two reasons, right? We have the franchise business, and we have the company restaurants, as you said. Overall, the franchise business is steady, right? It's even though it's a complicated operating environment, you know, we believe our formula of value, targeted marketing, and then operational execution will improve the sales trends in the coming quarter. Company restaurants will continue to improve. You know, it's not gonna be a straight line, but we have more work to do in terms of construction and in store execution, et cetera.

Yes, Nick Vans will take that question. Hey Nick, good morning. So, you know, with, with company, rest specifically, right? We we said, we're we're keeping keeping the guidance and q1 Lead, but I was a little bit softer but the work maintaining guidance for for really 2 Reasons. Right? So, so we have the franchise business and we have the company restaurants. As, as you said, overall the franchise businesses is steady, right? It's even though it's a complicated operating environment. You know, we believe our our formula of, of value, Target and marketing and then operational execution of well improved the sales Trends in the in the common quarter.

Vance Chang: The short-term EBITDA pressure should moderate over time as we start to leverage the investments we've made in our system. You know, with company restaurants, one thing worth pointing out is that in Q1 we had more than 75 closure days due to remodels and dual brand conversions. Obviously, this is not going to happen for the rest of the quarter. We'll have less closure days for the rest of the year. That's what's baked into our guidance.

And Company restaurants will continue to improve uh you know it's going to it's not going to be a straight line but we have more work to do in terms of construction and in store execution, Etc. So, so this short term even without pressure issue moderate over time as we start to Leverage The Investments.

Jeffrey Bernstein: Because you did talk about, I guess, the lower income, which is the focus for your brands, perhaps a little bit more vulnerable. Just wondering if you could talk a little bit about that and maybe whether the spike in gas prices you think had an outsized hit or maybe what you've seen in the past in such instances. I had 1 follow-up.

We've made in in, in our system, you know, with with company restaurants, 1 Thing Worth pointing out is that in q1, we had more than 75 closure days due to remodels and uh, and uh, conversions obviously, this is not going to happen for the rest of the quarter. Uh, it will have less

Less closure days for the rest of the year. So, so that's what's baked into to, to our guidance.

Nick Setyan: In terms of the alcohol licenses, et cetera, is that behind us or is that still an ongoing headwind?

Vance Chang: That's mostly behind us at this point, so that's tailwind for us.

And in terms of the alcohol licenses Etc, is that behind us? Or is that still uh, an ongoing, add 1, that's mostly behind us at this point so that's Tailwind for us.

Nick Setyan: Got it. In terms of, you know, just the company-owned mix going up, you talked about sort of the potential acquisition, you know, post the bankruptcy. Are we comfortable with the mix now, or is that something that could continue to go up through the rest of the year and potentially to 2027?

John Peyton: We're encouraged by even today's news, where it seems to be lessening a little bit. More broadly, that just reinforces our strategy around making sure that we have the right value message at Applebee's for those guests that are price sensitive, we continue to lean into the 2 for $25 message, strengthened by new and exciting news. Last quarter was All-In Burger, and we'll have something new in this quarter as well.

John Peyton: Nick, it's John. I'll take that question. The way we think about it are two parts to that answer. The first is, we are certainly more amenable today than we were in years past to taking back restaurants or a portfolio of restaurants in order to strengthen them, strengthen the system, prevent closures, and then to refranchise them, which we think we can typically do in about 3 years after we acquire them. We will continue to do that when we think it's the right portfolio and it's right for the brand, and that we can use those restaurants to advance our initiatives, like proving out the remodel, converting to duals, testing our programs and technology.

Got it. Um and in terms of um, you know, just the company on mix going up. You, you talked about sort of the potential acquisition, um, you know, post the bankruptcy uh is, are we? Are we comfortable with with, with the mix now? Or is that something that could continue to go up to the rest of the year and and and potentially to 2027?

Jeffrey Bernstein: Where the dual brand mix could go over time, and just more broadly that franchisee, since they're the ones driving it, presumably how their engagement has been of late, whether they seem to be more open to the idea, whether just opening more Applebee's on their own or opening more of the dual brands in future years. Thank you.

John Peyton: What we've also said is that while our goal is not to get to 5% of the portfolio that's company-owned, I'm comfortable getting to 5%, and still being, you know, asset light and having all of the benefits of being asset light. That's about the threshold you should think about in terms of where I'm comfortable going, but that's not the goal to get there.

I think it's John. I'll take that question, you know, the way we think about it. Uh, are 2 2 parts. I'd answer the the first is, um, we are certainly more amenable today than we were in years past to taking back restaurants or portfolio of restaurants in order to strengthen them. Strengthen the system prevent closures and then to re ref them which we think we can typically do in about 3 years after we acquire them. And so, we'll, we will continue to do that when we think it's the right portfolio and it's right for the, for the brand and that we can use those restaurants to advance our initiatives like proving out the remodel converting to duels testing our programs and Technology. Uh, what we've also said is that while our goal is not to get to 5% of company of the portfolio, that's company owned, I'm comfortable getting to 5%, um, and still, and still being, you know, asset light and having all of the benefits of being asked at light. So that's about the threshold, you

I should think about it in terms of where I'm comfortable going, but that's not the goal—to get there.

Nick Setyan: Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, simply press star one one again. Once again, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our next question comes from the line of Dennis Geiger from UBS. Your question please.

John Peyton: We've identified 900 opportunities in the US to open a dual brand restaurant or convert an existing restaurant to a dual that would have minimal to no impact on an existing restaurant. Of those 900 restaurants, Jeff, 450 would be new builds, and 450 would be adding a second brand to an existing restaurant. We think that that's achievable over the next 8 to 10 years.

Dennis Geiger: Great. Thanks, guys. I wanted to come back to the focus on quality and price points. I guess the value in particular, you guys spoke to sort of, you know, having the right value message at Applebee's, the 2 for $25, something new coming this quarter as well. I guess the question is, you know, where that value mix was maybe for both brands in the quarter, and then just kind of on the go forward, again, is it 2 for $25 plus something new? Is that kind of gonna be the playbook over the balance of the year? Do you think you have to do even more there based on some of the consumer pressures that are out there, you know, that you're observing currently?

Thank you. And as a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you do have a question at this time, please press star 1, 1 1 on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue simply press star, 1, 1 1 again. And once again, we ask the the limit yourself to 1 question at 1 follow-up. Our next question comes from the line of Dennis Geiger from UBS your question, please.

Dennis Geiger: Just any thoughts on that front, please.

John Peyton: Yeah, Dennis, good morning. It's John. I'll start with Applebee's. Then Lawrence can address it for IHOP. In terms of the mix for the quarter, about 26% of our tickets had value items on it, which would either be 2 for $25 or an LTO. That number's down from about a third, which is what it's been for many quarters. The reason there is because we had the Ultimate Trio as a national promotion in Q1, and we moved it out of the national price point to being priced individually by franchisees. Technically, we don't count it.

Any thoughts on on that 1, please?

Jeffrey Bernstein: Thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nick Setyan from Mizuho. Your question please.

John Peyton: Yes, Nick, Vance will take that question.

John Peyton: I would say in terms of the trend and even what we see in the Ultimate Trio sales, we still are running at about a third of our tickets include some sort of value item, and that's been consistent now for 5, 6, 7 quarters. When it comes to 2 for $25, yes, that is our primary message in terms of the way we're communicating value, two entrees and an appetizer for $25 or $12.50 per person. The way we're keeping it fresh in addition to the consistent message throughout the year is by introducing a new item to it. In addition, we will have LTOs from time to time, including next quarter, also value-driven LTOs designed to drive traffic.

Vance Chang: It's even though it's a complicated operating environment, you know, we believe our formula of value, targeted marketing, and then operational execution will improve the sales trends in the coming quarter. Company restaurants will continue to improve. You know, it's not gonna be a straight line, but we have more work to do in terms of construction and in store execution, et cetera.

Yeah, Dennis, good morning, it's John. I'll start with Applebee's and then Lawrence gonna address it for for IHOP, in terms of the, uh, the the mix for the, for the quarter about 26% of our tickets, um, had value items on it which would either be 2 for 25 or or an lto that number is down from about a third, which is what it's been for many, many quarters. And the reason there is because we had the ultimate Trio, um, as a national promotion in q1 and we we moved it out of the national price point to being priced individually by franchisee. So, technically, we don't count it. Uh, but I would say, in terms of the trend, and even what we see in the ultimate Trio sales, we still are running at about a third of, our tickets, include some sort of value item. And that's been consistent now for, uh, 567 quarters. Um, when it comes to 2 for 25. Yes, that is our primary message in terms of the way we're communicating value to entrees, and appetizer for for twenty 5 dollars.

John Peyton: The last thing I'll mention, which I think is interesting about the 2 for $25 program, Dennis, is that almost 62% of the items on 2 for $25 are the upsell. It's not the entry-level $25, it's guests that are paying $2, 3 more for tier 2 or $2, 3 more for tier 4. Remember, the franchisees set those increments based upon their market. It's doing what it's supposed to do. It's driving traffic with the 2 for $25 message, two-thirds of the time, it's actually upselling beyond the $25. Lawrence, can you address the value question for IHOP?

Or 1250 per person and the way we're keeping it fresh, in addition to the consistent message throughout the year is by introducing a new, a new item to it. Um in addition we will have lto from time to time um, including next quarter. Um, also also value-driven ltos designed to drive traffic. Um, and the last thing I'll mention which I think is is interesting about the 2 for 25 program. Um, Dennis is that, is that

Almost 62% of the items on 2 for 25 are the upsell so it's not the entry-level twenty 5 dollars, its guests that are paying 2 3 dollars more for tier 2 or 2 3 dollars more for tier 4. Remember the franchisees set those increments um based upon based upon their market. So it's doing what it's supposed to do its driving traffic which is 25 message and then 2 thirds of the time. It's uh it's actually upselling me on the twenty 5 dollars.

Nick Setyan: In terms of the alcohol licenses, et cetera, is that behind us or is that still an ongoing headwind?

Lawrence Kim: Absolutely. Hey, Dennis, how's it going? In regards to the value mix at IHOP, for Q1, it's 22%. Slightly higher than Q4, which is at around 20%, but it's remained fairly consistent. The uptick in Q1 was primarily due to a big promotion we had with Bottomless Pancakes that John referred to earlier. You know, this promotion is part of our value mix, which our value mix consists of the everyday value menu at $6, in addition to other promotions like the Bottomless Pancake or the free pancake promotion that we have on National Pancake Day, as well as our senior menu. In terms of moving forward, we are staying consistent with the $6 value message. It resonates extremely well with our guests.

Vance Chang: That's mostly behind us at this point, so that's tailwind for us.

Lawrence Kim: You know, ever since we launched the $6 value message with House Faves, which is Monday through Friday in October 2024, then evolved it into the $6 everyday value menu in September 2025. Even this past March, we evolved it even further by adding a new item, our BLT, to expand the day part propositions. We've outperformed Black Box in traffic every month in 2025 and continue to do so into 2026. We're gonna continue that momentum with that everyday value menu. Similar to Applebee's, we are balancing that with innovation.

And then and Lawrence. Can you address the value question for IHOP? Absolutely. Hey. Dennis, how's it going in regards to the value? Mix that IHOP, uh, it has been around 20 for q1. It's 22%. It's slightly higher than, uh, Q4 which is at around 20% but it's fair. It's remained, fairly consistent. Um, the uptick in q1 was primarily due to a big promotion, we had with bottomless pancakes, uh, that John referred to earlier. And, you know, this promotion uh, is part of our value mix, which our value mix consists of the everyday value menu at 6 dollars in addition to other promotions like the bottomless pancake or uh, the free pancake promotion that we have on National Pancake day as well as our senior menu. Um, in terms of moving forward we are staying consistent with the 6 uh it resonates extremely well with our guests, you know. Ever since we launched the 6 value message with house phase which is Monday through Friday and October 24th then evolved it into

John Peyton: We will continue to do that when we think it's the right portfolio and it's right for the brand, and that we can use those restaurants to advance our initiatives, like proving out the remodel, converting to duals, testing our programs and technology.

Lawrence Kim: Not only did we do the BLT adding to the $6 value menu, but you know, with the barbell strategy, we've complemented that, you know, with new product introductions, whether it's our stuffed and stacked omelets, new coffee introduction, that we had this past March, and there's obviously more to come.

Into the 6, every day value menu in September 25 and even this past March, we evolved even further by adding a new item. Our BLT to expand the day part propositions, uh, We've outperformed, uh, blackbox in traffic every month in 2025, and continued to do so into 2026 and uh, we're going to continue that momentum with that everyday value menu. Um, and similar to Applebee's, we are balancing that with Innovation, uh, not only did we do the BLT adding to the 6 value menu, but, you know, with the barbell strategy, we've complimented that, you know, with new product introductions, whether it's our stuff in stack, omelets, uh, new coffee introduction, uh, that we have this past March, and there's obviously more to come.

Dennis Geiger: Great. Thanks, guys. As a quick follow-up, and you touched on it some, but, you know, we've heard from some of your peers a little bit about check management in recent months, and I know you just kind of touched on, you know, kind of the value mix there, so that could certainly somewhat answer the question. Anything beyond what you just touched on check management, thinking about appetizers, beverages, desserts, and otherwise that you've observed over the last, you know, couple of months in particular?

Nick Setyan: Thank you very much.

Great. Thanks guys. As a as a quick follow-up and you touched on it, some but you know, we've heard from some of your, your peers, uh, a little bit about check Management in, in recent months. And I know you just kind of touched on, you know, kind of the value mix there. So, that, that could certainly, uh, someone answer their question. But but anything beyond what you just touched on on, on check management? Thinking about appetizers beverages desserts and otherwise that um, that you've observed over the last, you know, couple of months in particular.

Lawrence Kim: In regards to IHOP, and I'll throw that in, John, I'll pass you for Applebee's. In regards to check management at IHOP, we have, you know, in 2025, we were laser focused on driving value. You know, our primary messaging across the board was value because at that time, we did not have a strong equity in the value landscape. We maintained that consistency. It's why we've seen our traffic growth, especially in Black Box, every month in 2025. As we've gone into 2026, we've now complemented that because we've complemented our value messaging with the barbell strategy in driving our innovation layers. It's why we, you know, see different messaging right now, even within our social platforms, PR, et cetera, with that of innovation, whether it's our omelets.

Dennis Geiger: I guess the question is, you know, where that value mix was maybe for both brands in the quarter, and then just kind of on the go forward, again, is it 2 for $25 plus something new? Is that kind of gonna be the playbook over the balance of the year? Do you think you have to do even more there based on some of the consumer pressures that are out there, you know, that you're observing currently? Just any thoughts on that front, please.

Lawrence Kim: You know, we have different layers that we're going to balance with coming up this summer as well as into the fall and winter. You'll see a cadence of both value combined together with innovation to really go after that barbell strategy and create awareness across both platforms.

Whether it's our omelets. But, you know, we have, uh, different layers that we're going to balance with uh, coming up this summer as well as into the fall and winter. And you'll see a Cadence of both value combined together with Innovation, uh, to really go after that barbell strategy and create awareness um across both platforms.

John Peyton: Yeah. At Applebee's, Brian, you know, average check remained at about $39. That included a slight menu price increase that the franchisees put in place in Q1. We did see some migration toward lower priced items or, you know, at the expense of a drink or an appetizer. Like I said, we did maintain the average check at $39.

Yeah, and and Applebee's. Brian, you know, average average check remained in about 39, um, that included, a a slight menu price, increase at the franchise. He's put in place in q1. Uh, and we did see, uh, some migration toward lower priced items or uh, you know, at the expense of a drink or an appetizer, but like I said it, we we did maintain, the average check at $99.

Dennis Geiger: Great. Thank you, guys.

Great. Thank you guys.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Mullan from Piper Sandler.

John Peyton: The way we're keeping it fresh in addition to the consistent message throughout the year is by introducing a new item to it. In addition, we will have LTOs from time to time, including next quarter, also value-driven LTOs designed to drive traffic.

Thank you. And our next question comes from the law. Brian mowen from Piper Sandler. Your question, please.

Alicia Nachman: Hi, this is Alicia Nachman for Brian Mullan. Thanks for taking the question. At IHOP on the California Heritage remodel, just wanted to ask in a very open-ended way, but can you talk more about what we should expect to see with the remodel, maybe the cadence or how many units are eligible, how many you expect to, anything like that? Thank you.

Hi. This is Alison. Marshall on for

John Peyton: Thanks, Alicia Nachman. If Lawrence Kim will take that.

At IHOP on the California Heritage remodel, just wanted to ask in a very open-ended way, but can you talk more about what we should expect to see with the remodel? Maybe the cadence, or how many units are eligible? How many you expect to do—anything like that? Thank you.

Lawrence Kim: Yes. At IHOP for the California Heritage redesign and remodel, you know, this design is based on, you know, a platform which we've seen across international as well as in our dual brands, which is what we incorporated this bright, modern, you know, design that is distinctively IHOP. We are very early in the process, actually. We're working with our franchisee partners on the incentive program, you know, similar to that of Applebee's. We'll have more to come over the next several quarters. You know, we're excited because we're starting to see some of the remodels happening currently. Again, we're very early in the stage, and we'll have more in the upcoming quarters to share.

Alicia Nachman: Thank you.

John Peyton: Alicia Nachman, I would add 2 things. One is, if you haven't had a chance, we have a dual brand video on our IR section of our website. On that video, when you look at the IHOP portion of the interior, that is the California Heritage design. It'll give you a sense of what it looks like and how fresh and modern and contemporary it is. Since you asked, I'll comment that, you know, the Applebee's remodel program, refresh program continues. We're in year 2, the franchisees are enthusiastically participating, and we expect that we'll be at about 40% of the portfolio by the end of this year. That is considered to be current.

Thanks Alice. Uh, it's Lawrence. Will take that. Yes. So, uh, at at Iha for the California Heritage, uh, redesign and remodel. You know, this design is based on, you know, a platform which we've seen across International as well as in our dual Brands, uh, which is what we incorporated this bright modern. Um, you know, design that is distinctively IHOP and we are very early in the process actually. Um, and we're working with our franchisee Partners, um, on the incentive program, you know, similar to that of Applebees. And we'll have more to come over the next several quarters. Uh, but you know, we're, we're excited because we're starting to see some of the remodels happening currently. Uh, but again, we're very early in the stage and we'll have more in the upcoming quarters to share.

Lawrence Kim: You know, this promotion is part of our value mix, which our value mix consists of the everyday value menu at $6, in addition to other promotions like the Bottomless Pancake or the free pancake promotion that we have on National Pancake Day, as well as our senior menu. In terms of moving forward, we are staying consistent with the $6 value message. It resonates extremely well with our guests.

Yeah, thank you and Alice. I I would add 2 things, 1 is um, if you haven't had a chance, we have a dual brand video, on our IR section of our website. And on that video, when you look at the IHOP portion of the Interior, that is the California Heritage design. So let me give you a sense of what it looks like and how fresh and modern and contemporary it is. Uh, and I and since you asked I I'll comment that. You know, the app will be remodel program, refresh program, uh, continues, we're in year 2, uh and and the franchisees are enthusiastically participating and we expect that we'll be at about 40% of the portfolio by the end of this year, that is considered to be current

Alicia Nachman: Thank you.

Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Brooks from The Benchmark Company. Your question please.

Todd Brooks: Hey, thanks for taking my questions. John, I wanted to start off, I mean, you talked about stalking horse situation with the franchisee for the 50-plus units. If you look at the base, and I guess this applies to both brands, your assessment of kind of franchisee health as we're maybe getting to a little tougher consumer environment here, and would you expect to? You talked about a willingness, not necessarily wanting to force yourself there, but would you expect more growth in the corporate-owned base, not necessarily getting to the 5% kind of cap that you talked about, but just with the environment and wanting to keep those stores in operation? Because at this point, I don't know that there's really a lot to learn from running the stores. It's kind of that willingness to invest and convert to dual.

Thank you. And our next question comes from the law in of Todd Brooks from Benchmark. Stone at your question, please.

Hey, thanks for taking my questions. Uh, John, I want to start off. I mean, you talked about

Talking horse situation with the, uh, the franchisee for the 50-plus units. But if you look at the base and, I guess, the supplies to both brands,

Your assessment of kind of franchising, health is where maybe getting to a little tougher.

consumer environment here and would you expect to you talked about a willingness not necessarily wanting to force yourself there, but would you expect more

growth in the corporate owned base, not necessarily getting to the 5% uh

kind of cap that you you talked about but just with the environment and wanting to keep those stores in operation. Because at this point, I don't know that there's really a lot to learn

Todd Brooks: Just wanted to get the thoughts on franchisee health and if we should see an acceleration in corporate store, or corporate taking back franchise locations.

Um, from running the stores, it's kind of that willingness to invest and convert to duals. So just wanted to get the thoughts on franchisee health, and if we should see an acceleration in corporate store—or corporate taking back franchise locations.

John Peyton: Yeah. I'll talk specifically about NRP in some of your questions and Vance can talk more broadly about franchisee health. A couple of thoughts, Todd. The first is that, you know, the NRP situation is very specific to that owner and what was going on within their fund and decisions they made about financing. In fact, the restaurants that we're potentially taking back via the Stocking Horse bid, it's a healthy portfolio, so it will be, you know, it will be accretive to us. I don't think it's appropriate to project the NRP situation onto the portfolio. You know, the other point you made about is there anything left to learn? Disagree with you there.

Lawrence Kim: We maintained that consistency. It's why we've seen our traffic growth, especially in Black Box, every month in 2025. As we've gone into 2026, we've now complemented that because we've complemented our value messaging with the barbell strategy in driving our innovation layers. It's why we, you know, see different messaging right now, even within our social platforms, PR, et cetera, with that of innovation, whether it's our omelets.

John Peyton: I think that there is still a lot left to learn from walking in our franchisees' shoes and owning restaurants. You know, as many of you know, we have not owned restaurants in the last couple of years, and it's been a while. To have 100 or so restaurants that we are running, where we can be testing the new POS technology, we can be putting our menu innovation into the restaurants faster and sooner than if we're running tests, you know, across the country in test kitchens, when we can be rolling in our guest service programming and our training materials, all of that is beneficial to us, and I have a high value in that. In addition, as you suggested, to being able to renovate them and convert them to duals.

John Peyton: We also think that we can see the progress we're making in the restaurants that we own. They're all, excuse me, trending in positive directions, particularly when it comes to growing EBITDA and profit, and we think that they'll be accretive to us when we refranchise them in three years. I'm all in on that. Now I'll pass it to Vance to talk about franchisee health more broadly.

Dennis Geiger: Great. Thank you, guys.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Mullan from Piper Sandler.

Last couple of years, and it's been a while. And so to have a 100 or so restaurants that we are running where we can be testing the new POS technology, we can be putting our menu Innovation into the restaurants faster and sooner than if we're running tests, you know, across the country and test kitchens. Um when we can be rolling in our our um, guest service programming and our training materials, all of that is beneficial to us. And I have a high value in that um in addition as you suggested to being able to renovate them and convert them to duels. Uh we also think that um we can see the progress, we're making in the restaurants that we owned, they're all, excuse me, trending.

In positive directions, particularly when it comes to Growing um Evita and profit and we think that they'll be um accredited to us when we reference them in 3 years. So uh I'm all in on that and now I'll pass it to advance to talk about.

Vance Chang: Hey, Todd. With franchisee health, you know, reminder, you know, these are franchisees' self-reported financials, and we collect them a quarter in the rear, right? As we've said in the past. Based on what we're seeing is that, you know, the franchisees have steady margins on average, and it's because of, you know, the steady sort of sales performance and cost management initiatives that CSCS and the franchisees are doing together, our supply chain co-op. Franchisees are aligned with our strategy, and they remain committed to growing with us. You know, we're also just proactively making, we have workout programs with franchisees to accelerate incentives, to accelerate remodeling, relocations and, you know, various workout programs to promote and really unlock dual brand territories, right?

uh, franchisee Health more broadly

John Peyton: Thanks, Alicia Nachman. If Lawrence Kim will take that.

Hey Todd. So, so with with franchisee Health, you know, reminder, you know, these are franchisee, self-report of financials and we collect them a quarter in the rare. Try. So, as we've we've said in the past,

Lawrence Kim: We're working with our franchisee partners on the incentive program, you know, similar to that of Applebee's. We'll have more to come over the next several quarters. You know, we're excited because we're starting to see some of the remodels happening currently. Again, we're very early in the stage, and we'll have more in the upcoming quarters to share.

based on what we're seeing is that, you know, the, the March, the franchisees have steady margins on average. And and that's because of, you know, the the steady sort of sales performance and and cost management initiatives does that uh that cscs and and the franchisees are doing together our supply chain Co-op franchisees are aligned with our strategy and they're they

Remain committed to to Growing With Us.

Alicia Nachman: Thank you.

Vance Chang: You see all of this is happening behind the scene. Ultimately, you know, as John and I have said before, we believe dual brands will provide that step function change to franchisees' unit economics outside of normal comp growth. We're very enthusiastic about pushing that agenda and franchisees as well.

John Peyton: It'll give you a sense of what it looks like and how fresh and modern and contemporary it is. Since you asked, I'll comment that, you know, the Applebee's remodel program, refresh program continues. We're in year 2, the franchisees are enthusiastically participating, and we expect that we'll be at about 40% of the portfolio by the end of this year. That is considered to be current.

You know, we're also just proactively making, uh, we have workout programs with franchises to accelerate incentives to accelerate modeling relocations and and, and the, you know, the various workout programs to to promote and, and really unlock, uh, do a brand territories, right? So, you'll see all of this is happening behind the scene. And ultimately, you know, as John and I have said before, we, we believe dual Brands will provide that step function change to franchisees unit economics, outside of uh, normal comp growth. So we're we're we're very uh, enthusiastic

About pushing that agenda and and the franchisees as well.

Todd Brooks: That's great. Just my follow-up, if I can. On the duals, you talked about kind of that range of 1.5 to 2.5 type of sales lift relative to the individual branded location. You talked about the strong lift at Hawthorne, which I think you said was a strong restaurant going into the conversion. What type of lift do you need for the conversion to a dual to really pencil? Does the 1.5x lift get the return that you or franchisees looking for on the dual? Do you need closer to the 2x? Just if you could frame that up a little bit, that would be helpful. Thanks.

That's great. Just my follow-up, if I can, on the duels you talked about.

Alicia Nachman: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Brooks from The Benchmark Company. Your question please.

None of that range of 1 and a half to 2, and a half type of uh sales live relative to the individual branded location. And you talked about the strong listing hot store in which I think you super is a strong restaurant going into

Uh, the conversion. But what type of lift do you need for the conversion to a dual, to really pencil? Does the one and a half times lift?

John Peyton: Vance, you can address that.

Get the return that you are, that you are franchises looking for, on the Dual. Do you need closer to the 2 times? Just if you could frame that up a little bit, that would be helpful. Thanks.

Vance Chang: Of course. Todd, the way you think about the unit economics for the conversion with dual brands is that the flow through on that incremental sales that you're generating is gonna be a lot higher than, you know, the traditional four wall margin. It's because you're not really paying more rent and you're not necessarily increasing your labor by that much to compensate for the increase in sales. That flow through should be in the, you know, north of 30% margin. If you do the simple math of assuming a $2 million restaurant adding another $1 million on top of it, that's a $300,000 flow through to the franchisee's bottom line.

Man, you can address that, of course.

Todd Brooks: You talked about a willingness, not necessarily wanting to force yourself there, but would you expect more growth in the corporate-owned base, not necessarily getting to the 5% kind of cap that you talked about, but just with the environment and wanting to keep those stores in operation? Because at this point, I don't know that there's really a lot to learn from running the stores. It's kind of that willingness to invest and convert to dual. Just wanted to get the thoughts on franchisee health and if we should see an acceleration in corporate store, or corporate taking back franchise locations.

Vance Chang: What we're seeing is that the cost of the conversion is about, you know, a little over $1 million. It depends on, you know, if there's any deferred maintenance and structural work that you have to do, which is site specific. Just again, using, you know, using simple math on $1 million with a $300,000 flow through, that's very attractive payback math for the franchisee, and for company restaurants for that matter.

Todd. So, the way you think about that, you would economics for the. For the conversion with dual Brands is is that the, the flow through on that incremental sales, that you're generating is going to be a lot higher than than, you know, the traditional 4 wall. Uh, margin. It's because, uh, you're not really paying more rent to and you're not necessarily increasing your labor, uh, by that much to to to uh, to compensate for for the increase in sales, so that flow through is probably should be in the, you know, north of 30% margin. So if you, if you just take, do the simple math. That's assuming, uh, a 2,000 million dollars on top of it. That's the $300,000 flow through to the franchise these bottom line. And then what we're seeing is that, the, the cost of the conversion is about, you know, a little bit over a million dollars. It depends on, you know,

John Peyton: In fact, the restaurants that we're potentially taking back via the Stocking Horse bid, it's a healthy portfolio, so it will be, you know, it will be accretive to us. I don't think it's appropriate to project the NRP situation onto the portfolio. You know, the other point you made about is there anything left to learn? Disagree with you there.

If there's any deferred maintenance and and, and structural work that you have to do, which is site specific. But just again, using, you know, using simple math on a million dollars with the hundred thousand dollars flow through. That's very attractive. Uh, payback match for the franchisees dental company restaurants for that matter.

Todd Brooks: Okay, perfect. Thank you both.

Okay, perfect. Thank you both.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Vaccaro from Raymond James. Your question please.

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Brian viscero.

Brian Vaccaro: Hi, thanks and good morning. I was hoping we could just double click on the underlying consumer dynamics that you're seeing. You obviously noted the softness within lower income, I'm curious if there's anything worth noting from a day part perspective or even weekday versus weekend for either brand. The follow-up question is just, also could you comment on the average check and traffic trends that you saw within the comps in Q1 for each brand?

From Raymond James, your question, please.

John Peyton: To have 100 or so restaurants that we are running, where we can be testing the new POS technology, we can be putting our menu innovation into the restaurants faster and sooner than if we're running tests, you know, across the country in test kitchens, when we can be rolling in our guest service programming and our training materials, all of that is beneficial to us, and I have a high value in that. In addition, as you suggested, to being able to renovate them and convert them to duals.

John Peyton: Brian, it's John. On the consumer dynamic, I can talk about both brands since the consumer behaves similarly over time as well as last quarter. The first thing I'll say is reiterating the point that you mentioned, which is when it comes to looking at income cohorts, higher earners, lower earners, the only real change that we've seen this quarter and the last couple of quarters is that our price sensitive, more value-oriented guests seem to be staying home a bit more and/or looking for lower cost alternatives. When it came to other cohorts, we didn't see a significant change in behavior that is worth noting. When we look at day parts, when we look at weekdays, when we look at geography, there's no pattern there either.

Yeah. Brian, it's John on the consumer Dynamic. I can I can talk about um uh both Brands since the consumer behaves. Similarly uh,

Over time as well as last quarter.

John Peyton: It's largely consistent this quarter to the past couple of quarters. I would really just target that consumer behavior issue on the guests that is really most impacted by gas prices and the economy in general. When it comes to average check and traffic trends, I will turn it to Vance.

Vance Chang: Brian, hey, good to see, good to hear from you. You know, John talked about average check for Applebee's was $39. For IHOP, it's about $35. You know, menu pricing for Q1 was about 4% for Applebee's and 3% for IHOP. Applebee's actually saw positive mix this quarter. IHOP was negative mix. Both brands saw negative traffic. IHOP beat Black Box for the every month for the quarter.

The first thing I'll say is, is reiterating the point that you mentioned, which is when it comes to looking at income cohorts, higher, higher earners, lower earners, the, the only real change that we've seen this quarter in the last couple of quarters is that our our price sensitive more value oriented guests. Uh, seem to be staying home a bit more Andor looking for lower cost Alternatives when it came to other cohorts, uh, we didn't see uh, a significant change in um behavior that that is worth noting when we look at day Parts, when we look at weekdays, when we look at geography, uh, it's there's no pattern there either. It's largely consistent. This quarter to the past couple of quarters. Um, and so I would really just Target that consumer Behavior issue on this on the guest, that's really most impacted by gas prices in the, in the economy in general. And then when it comes to average check and traffic Trends alternative to dance,

Vance Chang: Franchisees are aligned with our strategy, and they remain committed to growing with us. You know, we're also just proactively making, we have workout programs with franchisees to accelerate incentives, to accelerate remodeling, relocations and, you know, various workout programs to promote and really unlock dual brand territories, right?

So Brian. Hey good. Good to good to hear from you. Um, you know, John talked about average check for Applebee's was 39. For ihob is about 35 dollars. Um, uh, you know, menu pricing for q1, uh, was about 4% for Applebee's and 3% for IHOP

Um, Applebee's actually saw positive picks this quarter. I have with negative picks, and then both Brands saw negative traffic, uh, uh, but but, but I have beat blackbox for, for every, every month for the quarter.

Brian Vaccaro: Okay, great. Thank you for that. I guess last question from me was just around closures. Just wanted to touch on that. It seemed to step up here a bit in Q1. I think 20 at IHOP and 32 at Applebee's. I believe you maintained the net development targets for the year. Could you just help us square that up a bit? Thanks again.

John Peyton: Vance, we'll let you wrap up with that question.

Okay, great. Thank you for that. And then, I guess, last question, for me, it was just just around closures, just wanted to touch on that. It seemed to step up here a bit in q1. I think 20 at IHOP and 32 at at Applebee's but I believe you maintained the net development targets for the year. So could you just help us square that up a bit? Thanks again.

Vance Chang: Sure. Brian, you know, we've said that closures, usually what we see is sort of that 1% to 2% of systems, of the system. That's kind of the average closure rate. In the last year and this year, it's slightly elevated because we do have more franchise agreements come due than normal years. That's reflected. Also we, you know, as I had mentioned before, we're proactively making deals, workout programs with franchisees to accelerate relocations and unlock dual brand territory. That's also reflected in the closure numbers. We're maintaining the net development number because we have a pretty strong pipeline of dual brand that we're opening and standalone IHOP that we're opening. That's what's baked into our guidance.

Advanced. We'll let you wrap up with that question. Sure uh Brian so you know we we've said that closures. Usually what we see is sort of that 1 to 2% of systems

John Peyton: Vance, you can address that.

Uh, that, that's the system, that's kind of the average closure rate, uh, in the last year. And this year, it's, it's slightly elevated because we, we do have more franchise agreements come due, um, than a normal year. So, so, that's, we reflected. But also, we, we, you know, as I mentioned before, we're, we're proactively making deal work-out programs with franchisees to accelerate relocations and unlock the whole brand territory. So that's also reflected in, in the closure numbers. Um, we're maintaining the net development number because we have a, a pretty strong pipeline of little brand that we're opening and

Vance Chang: One other thing we've said before is that, you know, typically from what we see is the closures that tend to be lower sales volume restaurants, right? The openings are bigger sales restaurants. So it's not one-to-one, right, in terms of unit count. So there's accretion happening there as we relocate and build a new restaurant versus closing down an old restaurant that's in the old part of the town, for example.

Standalone IHOP that we're opening. And so that's that's what's baked into, uh, um, to our our, our guidance 1 1. Other thing we've said before is that, you know, typically, from what we see is the closures that are tend to be lower, uh, sales volume restaurants, right? And then the openings are bigger, uh, sales restaurant. So, so it's, it's not 1 to 1, right? In terms of the unit count, um,

So, so there's a creation happening there, as we relocate, and, and build a new restaurant. First and closing down a, a, a old restaurant that's in the

The old part of the town, for example.

Brian Vaccaro: Okay. Thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Operator: Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to John Peyton, Dine Brands CEO, for any further remarks.

John Peyton: Hey, Jonathan, thank you for guiding us today. Your expertise is valued as always. Thanks everybody for your questions. We appreciate it and the time you spent with us. Like we said in our release and on this call today, we are pleased with the brand's performance during the quarter, despite tough environment. We've got the plans in place to continue to appeal to our guests, particularly those who are increasingly value-oriented over the next quarter. You'll see some new news in the next couple of weeks that we think is gonna drive a lot of traffic to both brands. Thanks everybody, have a great day.

Todd Brooks: Okay, perfect. Thank you both.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Vaccaro from Raymond James. Your question please.

This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to John, Peyton dying brand CEO for any further remarks. Hey Jonathan, thank you for, uh, guiding us today or expertise is valued. As always, uh, thanks everybody for your questions. We, we appreciate it and the time you spent with us and like we said, in our release and on this call today, we are pleased with the Brand's performance during the the quarter, uh, despite tough tough environment. Um, and we've got the plans in place to continue to appeal to our guests, particularly those who are increasingly value oriented over the next quarter and you'll see some new news in the next couple of weeks that we think is going to drive a lot of traffic to both Brands. So, thanks everybody and have a great day.

Operator: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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John Peyton: When it came to other cohorts, we didn't see a significant change in behavior that is worth noting. When we look at day parts, when we look at weekdays, when we look at geography, there's no pattern there either. It's largely consistent this quarter to the past couple of quarters. I would really just target that consumer behavior issue on the guests that is really most impacted by gas prices and the economy in general. When it comes to average check and traffic trends, I will turn it to Vance.

John Peyton: Vance, we'll let you wrap up with that question.

Vance Chang: Also we, you know, as I had mentioned before, we're proactively making deals, workout programs with franchisees to accelerate relocations and unlock dual brand territory. That's also reflected in the closure numbers. We're maintaining the net development number because we have a pretty strong pipeline of dual brand that we're opening and standalone IHOP that we're opening. That's what's baked into our guidance.

Brian Vaccaro: Okay. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to John Peyton, Dine Brands CEO, for any further remarks.

Operator: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.