Q1 2026 Sezzle Inc Earnings Call

May 6, 2026

Speaker #2: After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on a touchtone phone.

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Speaker #2: Please go ahead and. Thank you, and good afternoon. And welcome to Sezzle's First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. I'm Charlie Youakim, CEO and Executive Chairman of Sezzle.

Charlie Youakim: Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Sezzle's Q1 2026 earnings call. I'm Charlie Youakim, CEO and Executive Chairman of Sezzle. I'm joined today by our CFO, Lee Brading, and my Co-founder and Company President, Paul Paradis. In conjunction with this conference call, we filed our earnings announcement with the SEC and posted it, along with our earnings presentation, on our investor website at sezzle.com. To retrieve the documents, please go to the investor relations section of the website. Please be advised of the cautionary note on forward-looking statements and the reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures included in the presentation, which also covers our statements on today's call. Before diving into the quarter, I want to start by touching on the big picture for 2026. We believe it is going to be an exciting year for Sezzle. 2025 was about enhancing our current consumer ecosystem.

Speaker #2: I'm joined today by our CFO, Lee Brading, and my co-founder and company president, Paul Paradis. In conjunction with this conference call, we filed our earnings announcement with the SEC and posted it, along with our earnings presentation, on our investor website at sezzle.com.

Speaker #2: To retrieve the documents, please go to the investor relations section of the website. Please be advised of the cautionary note on forward-looking statements, and the reconciliation of gap to non-gap measures, including in the presentation.

Charlie Youakim: To retrieve the documents, please go to the investor relations section of the website. Please be advised of the cautionary note on forward-looking statements and the reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures included in the presentation, which also covers our statements on today's call. Before diving into the quarter, I want to start by touching on the big picture for 2026. We believe it is going to be an exciting year for Sezzle. 2025 was about enhancing our current consumer ecosystem.

Speaker #2: Which also covers our statements on today's call. Before diving into the quarter, I want to start by touching on the big picture for 2026.

Speaker #2: We believe it is going to be an exciting year for Sezzle. 2025 was about enhancing our current consumer ecosystem. We improved the app experience, expanded engagement features, leaned back into higher-value consumers, and continue to give our users more reasons to come back to Sezzle.

Charlie Youakim: We improved the app experience, expanded engagement features, leaned back into higher-value consumers, and continued to give our users more reasons to come back to Sezzle. In 2026, we are pushing that strategy further. We are moving beyond being a product consumers think about only at checkout. Our ambition is to serve our consumers more broadly in their everyday lives and in the way they manage everyday spending. That means continuing to build around payments, but also expanding into areas like deposit accounts, card products, enhanced lending options, our recently launched Sezzle Mobile plan, and more. The goal is simple: create more value for the consumer, create more reasons to engage with Sezzle, and over time, make Sezzle a critical part of our consumers' daily lives. The strategy is working.

Speaker #2: But in 2026, we are pushing that strategy further. We are moving beyond being a product consumers think about only at checkout. Our ambition is to serve our consumers more broadly and their everyday lives and in the way they manage everyday spending.

Speaker #2: That means continuing to build around payments, but also expanding into areas like deposit accounts, card products, enhanced lending options, our recently launched Sezzle Mobile plan, and more.

Speaker #2: The goal is simple: create more value for the consumer, create more reasons to engage with Sezzle, and over time, make Sezzle a critical part of our consumers' daily lives.

Speaker #2: The strategy is working. In the first quarter, we delivered strong growth, strong profitability, and improved engagement across the platform. And we are raising our full-year guidance as a result.

Charlie Youakim: In Q1, we delivered strong growth, strong profitability, and improved engagement across the platform. We are raising our full-year guidance as a result. We are still very early in what Sezzle can become for the value-focused consumer. With that, let's dive in. Q1 followed a similar and important pattern to Q1 of last year. Better-than-expected credit performance helped drive strong margins and bottom-line results. The strength in repayment trends also gave confidence to approve more volume while staying disciplined on risk, helping drive GMV that nearly matched the Q4 holiday period. We also saw the benefits of the investments we made throughout 2025 to create a more engaging product ecosystem.

Speaker #2: We are still very early in what Sezzle can become for the value-focused consumer. With that, let's dive in. The first quarter followed a similar and important pattern to the first quarter of last year.

Speaker #2: Better-than-expected credit performance helped drive strong margins and bottom-line results. The strength in repayment trends also gave confidence to approve more volume, while staying disciplined on risk.

Speaker #2: Helping drive GMV that nearly matched the fourth quarter holiday period. We also saw the benefits of the investments we made throughout 2025 to create a more engaging product ecosystem.

Speaker #2: Average quarterly purchase frequency increased by a full purchase across the consumer base, reaching 7.1 times in the quarter compared to 6.1 times in the first quarter of last year.

Charlie Youakim: Average quarterly purchase frequency increased by a full purchase across the consumer base, reaching 7.1 times in the quarter compared to 6.1 times in Q1 of last year. That's a meaningful increase, and it tells us our consumers are coming back to Sezzle more often and finding more ways to use us. Those factors helped drive the results you see on slide 3. GMV grew 37.3% year-over-year. Total revenue grew 29.2%, and our gross margins reached 74% of total revenue. We also generated $51.3 million of net income, representing a 37.9% profit margin, and $71.1 million of adjusted EBITDA, representing a 52.5% adjusted EBITDA margin.

Charlie Youakim: Average quarterly purchase frequency increased by a full purchase across the consumer base, reaching 7.1x in the quarter compared to 6.1x in Q1 of last year. That's a meaningful increase, and it tells us our consumers are coming back to Sezzle more often and finding more ways to use us. Those factors helped drive the results you see on slide three. GMV grew 37.3% year-over-year. Total revenue grew 29.2%, and our gross margins reached 74% of total revenue. We also generated $51.3 million of net income, representing a 37.9% profit margin, and $71.1 million of adjusted EBITDA, representing a 52.5% adjusted EBITDA margin.

Speaker #2: That's a meaningful increase, and it tells us our consumers are coming back to Sezzle more often and finding more ways to use us. Those factors helped drive the results you see on slide three.

Speaker #2: GMV grew 37.3% year over year, total revenue grew 29.2%, and our gross margins reached 74% of total revenue. We also generated 51.3 million of net income.

Speaker #2: Representing a 37.9% profit margin. And 71.1 million of adjusted EBITDA, representing a 52.5% adjusted EBITDA margin. Given the strength in the first quarter and the growing engagement we're seeing across the platform, we are increasing our full-year 2026 guidance across the board.

Charlie Youakim: Given the strength in Q1 and the growing engagement we're seeing across the platform, we are increasing our full-year 2026 guidance across the board. We are raising total revenue growth guidance from 25% to 30% to a new range of 30% to 35%. We are also increasing adjusted net income guidance by $10 million to $180 million and raising adjusted EPS guidance to $5.10 from $4.70, with some benefit from repurchase activity in Q1. We will provide more detail on guidance later in the call, but overall, this reflects our confidence in the momentum of the business. A key factor in the recent growth of our business has been the payoff of our reinvestment and refocus on our subscribers, our highest LTV users on the platform. Which you'll see depicted on slide 4.

Speaker #2: We are raising total revenue growth guidance from 25 to 30 percent to a new range of 30 to 35 percent. We are also increasing adjusted net income guidance by 10 million to 180 million.

Speaker #2: And raising adjusted EPS guidance to $5.10 from $4.70. With some benefit from repurchase activity in the first quarter. We will provide more detail on guidance later in the call, but overall, this reflects our confidence in the momentum of the business.

Speaker #2: A key factor in the recent growth of our business has been the payoff of our reinvestment and refocus on our subscribers. Our highest LTV users on the platform.

Speaker #2: What you'll see depicted on slide four. Our investment continued to pay off in the first quarter. With total subscribers increasing by 44,000 to 714,000.

Charlie Youakim: Our investments continue to pay off in Q1, with total subscribers increasing by 44,000 to 714,000. The overall total mods sequential decrease is due to the decrease in monthly on-demand users. A drop which reflects the seasonality of our platform from the busy holiday shopping period to the lower activity we see in the quarter after, along with the de-emphasis or a renewed focus on our subscribers. Turning to slide 5, much of that subscriber momentum traces back to the continued investment we are making in marketing. Since we began leaning harder into this effort in late 2024, we have tested a number of campaigns, funnels, and pathways to reach new consumers.

Charlie Youakim: Our investments continue to pay off in Q1, with total subscribers increasing by 44,000 to 714,000. The overall total mods sequential decrease is due to the decrease in monthly on-demand users. A drop which reflects the seasonality of our platform from the busy holiday shopping period to the lower activity we see in the quarter after, along with the de-emphasis or a renewed focus on our subscribers. Turning to slide five, much of that subscriber momentum traces back to the continued investment we are making in marketing. Since we began leaning harder into this effort in late 2024, we have tested a number of campaigns, funnels, and pathways to reach new consumers.

Speaker #2: The overall total mods sequential decrease is due to the decrease in monthly on-demand users. A drop which reflects the seasonality of our platform from the busy holiday shopping period to the lower activity we see in the quarter after, along with the de-emphasis or renewed focus on our subscribers.

Speaker #2: Turning to slide five, much of that subscriber momentum traces back to the continued investment we are making in marketing. Since we began leaning harder into this effort in late 2024, we have tested a number of campaigns, funnels, and pathways to reach new consumers.

Speaker #2: Like most things at Sezzle, there has been trial and error along the way, but I think it's clear that we are starting to catch our stride in finding the most effective ways to win subscribers and drive greater engagement across the consumer base.

Charlie Youakim: Like most things at Sezzle, there's been trial and error along the way, but I think it's clear that we are starting to catch our stride in finding the most effective ways to win subscribers and drive greater engagement across the consumer base. The best part is that we have been able to push spending higher while still maintaining attractive returns. Marketing spend increased again in Q1, but we continue to see a payback period of less than six months. That gives us the confidence to keep investing where we are seeing performance. To be clear, the goal is not just to acquire any user at any cost. The goal is to acquire and retain consumers with the highest lifetime values, the ones who transact more frequently, demonstrate stronger loyalty, and give us more opportunities to create value over time.

Speaker #2: The best part is that we have been able to push spending higher while still maintaining attractive returns. Marketing spend increased again in the first quarter.

Speaker #2: But we continue to see a payback period of less than six months. That gives us the confidence to keep investing where we are seeing performance.

Speaker #2: To be clear, the goal is not just to acquire any user at any cost. The goal is to acquire and retain consumers with the highest lifetime values.

Speaker #2: The ones who transact more frequently, demonstrate stronger loyalty, and give us more opportunities to create value over time. In practice, that means subscribers repeat users and consumers who engage across multiple parts of the Sezzle ecosystem.

Charlie Youakim: In practice, that means subscribers, repeat users, and consumers who engage across multiple parts of the Sezzle ecosystem. The Earn Tab is a great example of how our products and marketing strategies reinforce each other. Since launching in June 2025, the Earn Tab has generated 4.8 million visits. Consumers show a 55% increase in BNPL conversion within 30 days after their first Earn Tab activity. This is exactly the type of engagement loop we want to build. That brings us to slide 6. Pay in 4 has been the foundation of the business, but consumers are asking for more, more utility and more ways to use Sezzle beyond a single checkout moment. In Q1 and shortly after quarter end, we made progress on several fronts.

Speaker #2: The earn tab is a great example of how our product and marketing strategies reinforce each other. Since launching in June 2025, the earn tab has generated $4.8 million visits.

Speaker #2: And consumers show a 55% increase in BNPL conversion within 30 days after their first earn tab activity. This is exactly the type of engagement loop we want to build.

Speaker #2: That brings us to slide six, and four has been the foundation of the business. But consumers are asking for more, more utility, and more ways to use Sezzle beyond a single checkout moment.

Speaker #2: In the first quarter and shortly after quarter end, we made progress on several fronts. We expanded short-term installment optionality with Pay in Five, launched an enhanced long-term lending capability across the entire BNPL product suite, introduced the virtual card in Canada with select integrated merchants, and launched the Sezzle mobile plan on AT&T's network, with an unlimited wireless plan starting at $29.99 for Sezzle Anywhere members.

Charlie Youakim: We expanded short-term installment optionality with Pay in Five, launched an enhanced long-term lending capability across the entire BNPL product suite, introduced the virtual card in Canada with select integrated merchants, and launched the Sezzle Mobile plan on AT&T's network with an unlimited wireless plan starting at $29.99 for Sezzle Anywhere members. Each of these products has slightly different use cases, the strategic theme is the same. Expand what a Sezzle relationship can do for the consumer. Turning to the next slide, AI continues to be a major focus across Sezzle. We are not treating AI as a side project or a small productivity experiment. We are embedding it into how we build products, support consumers, analyze data, and operate the business. On the consumer side, we recently launched our AI support chatbot, and it's already resolving approximately 60% to 70% of the chats without escalation.

Speaker #2: Each of these products has slightly different use cases. But the strategic theme is the same. Expand what a Sezzle relationship can do for the consumer.

Speaker #2: Turning to the next slide, AI continues to be a major focus across Sezzle. We are not treating AI as a side project or a small productivity experiment.

Charlie Youakim: Turning to the next slide, AI continues to be a major focus across Sezzle. We are not treating AI as a side project or a small productivity experiment. We are embedding it into how we build products, support consumers, analyze data, and operate the business. On the consumer side, we recently launched our AI support chatbot, and it's already resolving approximately 60% to 70% of the chats without escalation.

Speaker #2: We are embedding it into how we build products, support consumers, analyze data, and operate the business. On the consumer side, we recently launched our AI support chatbot, and it's already resolving approximately 60 to 70 percent of the chats without escalation.

Speaker #2: That improves speed for the consumer while allowing our support organization to handle greater volume with the same disciplined cost structure. We are also testing our AI shopping assistant, which is driving stronger click-to-order conversion and helping consumers find the right products with less friction.

Charlie Youakim: That improves speed for the consumer while allowing our support organization to handle greater volume with the same disciplined cost structure. We are also testing our AI shopping assistant, which is driving stronger click-to-order conversion and helping consumers find the right products with less friction. Internally, we're using AI everywhere in the company to improve efficiencies and automations. We're using it to help analyze chargebacks, improve business intelligence, increase support quality, improve access to company data, and speed up engineering workflows. Taken together, these efforts do three things: improve the consumer experience, increase output across the company, and scale the business while keeping expense growth well below revenue growth. All of this points to a broader vision, which the next slide lays out. Sezzle started with Pay in Four, but we are no longer just a Pay in Four company. We are building an all-in-one services platform for the value-focused consumer.

Speaker #2: Internally, we are using AI everywhere in the company to improve efficiencies and automations. We're using it to help analyze chargebacks. Improve business intelligence. Increase support quality.

Speaker #2: Improve access to company data. And speed up engineering workflows. Taken together, these efforts do three things. Improve the consumer experience. Increase output across the company.

Charlie Youakim: Taken together, these efforts do three things: improve the consumer experience, increase output across the company, and scale the business while keeping expense growth well below revenue growth. All of this points to a broader vision, which the next slide lays out. Sezzle started with Pay in Four, but we are no longer just a Pay in Four company. We are building an all-in-one services platform for the value-focused consumer.

Speaker #2: And scale the business while keeping expense growth well below revenue growth. All of this points to a broader vision. Which the next slide lays out.

Speaker #2: Sezzle started with Pay in Four. But we are no longer just a Pay in Four company. We are building an all-in-one services platform for the value-focused consumer.

Speaker #2: The strategic goal is to make Sezzle more useful and more moments. The more value we provide, the more reasons consumers have to come back.

Charlie Youakim: The strategic goal is to make Sezzle more useful in more moments. The more value we provide, the more reasons consumers have to come back. That drives engagement, supports retention, and strengthens the consumer relationship over time. We still have a lot ahead of us, including products like bank accounts and greater post-purchase split capabilities, among other ideations. Overall, the real test of this strategy is engagement. If the product ecosystem is working, we should see consumers using Sezzle more often across more merchants and across more use cases. That's exactly what we saw in Q1, as seen on slides 9 and 10. In the first two boxes, mods and quarterly purchase frequency prove out the ROI across products and marketing.

Speaker #2: That drives engagement, supports retention, and strengthens the consumer relationship over time. We still have a lot ahead of us, including products like bank accounts and greater post-purchase split capabilities among other ideations.

Speaker #2: And overall, the real test of this strategy is engagement. If the product ecosystem is working, we should see consumers using Sezzle more often, across more merchants, and across more use cases.

Speaker #2: That's exactly what we saw in the first quarter as seen on slides 9 and 10. In the first two boxes, mods and quarterly purchase frequency prove out the ROI across products and marketing.

Speaker #2: Even the sequential increase in quarterly purchase frequency seen on slide 10 jumped to a whole new level. Reaching a half purchase more than our busiest quarter of the year.

Charlie Youakim: Even the sequential increase in quarterly purchase frequency, seen on slide 10, jumped to a whole new level, reaching a half purchase more than our busiest quarter of the year. To me, all of these metrics you see on slides nine and 10 are a clear sign that we are moving in the right direction. We are still early, but the flywheel is getting stronger. With that, I'll turn it over to Lee.

Speaker #2: To me, all of these metrics you see on slides 9 and 10 are a clear sign that we are moving in the right direction.

Speaker #2: We are still early, but the flywheel is getting stronger, and with that, I'll turn it over to Lee.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Charlie. And good evening to everyone joining us. I will start on slide 11. But before getting into the details, I want to highlight the seasonality in our business.

Lee Brading: Thanks, Charlie, and good evening to everyone joining us. I will start on slide 11, but before getting into the details, I want to highlight the seasonality in our business. From a revenue yield standpoint, which is simply total revenue divided by GMV, Q1 is typically the peak of a fiscal year, as some payments from Q4's holiday season spill over into Q1. The quarter is also typically the best-performing quarter in terms of our provision for credit losses as a percentage of GMV because our consumers generally benefit from tax refunds at the start of the year, thus leading to better loss rates in Q1. As a result, Q1 is usually the best quarter in terms of margins. While we would love to just annualize a unit economic margin of 74%, we can't. If you look back to last year's results, you will recognize that dynamic.

Speaker #1: From a revenue-yield standpoint, which is simply total revenue divided by GMV, Q1 is typically the peak of the fiscal year. As some payments from Q4's holiday season spill over into Q1.

Lee Brading: The quarter is also typically the best-performing quarter in terms of our provision for credit losses as a percentage of GMV because our consumers generally benefit from tax refunds at the start of the year, thus leading to better loss rates in Q1. As a result, Q1 is usually the best quarter in terms of margins. While we would love to just annualize a unit economic margin of 74%, we can't. If you look back to last year's results, you will recognize that dynamic.

Speaker #1: The quarter is also typically the best-performing quarter in terms of our provision for credit losses, as a percentage of GMV. Because our consumers generally benefit from tax refunds at the start of the year, thus leading to better loss rates in Q1.

Speaker #1: As a result, Q1 is usually the best quarter in terms of margins. While we would love to just annualize a unit economic margin of 74%, we can't.

Speaker #1: And if you look back to last year's results, you will recognize that dynamic. Even though we had a tough year-over-year comp this quarter, you can see the strong momentum in our business as we reached all-time highs and adjusted EBITDA margin and total revenue less transaction-related costs as a percentage of total revenue.

Lee Brading: Even though we had a tough year-over-year comp this quarter, you can see the strong momentum in our business as we reached all-time highs in adjusted EBITDA margin and total revenue less transaction-related costs as a percentage of total revenue. As noted earlier by Charlie, our marketing spend more than doubled year-over-year in the quarter. Nonetheless, we were able to leverage non-transaction-related operating expenses by 30 basis points year-over-year. Topline growth and leveraging our non-transaction-related OPEX combined with strong unit economics resulted in net income outpacing total revenue for the quarter. For those playing the Rule of 40 game at home, which we measure as revenue growth plus EBITDA margin, we've exceeded a score of 80 in Q1. On slide 12, you can see the strong momentum in our business as Q1 GMV of 1.1 billion nearly surpassed Q4's holiday season GMV of 1.2 billion.

Speaker #1: As noted earlier by Charlie, our marketing spent more than doubled year over year. In the quarter, nonetheless, we were able to leverage non-transaction-related operating expenses by 30 basis points year over year.

Speaker #1: Top-line growth and leveraging our non-transaction-related OPEX combined with strong unit economics resulted in net income outpacing total revenue for the quarter. For those playing the rule of 40 game at home, which we measure as revenue growth plus EBITDA margin, we exceeded a score of 80 in Q1.

Lee Brading: Topline growth and leveraging our non-transaction-related OPEX combined with strong unit economics resulted in net income outpacing total revenue for the quarter. For those playing the Rule of 40 game at home, which we measure as revenue growth plus EBITDA margin, we've exceeded a score of 80 in Q1. On slide 12, you can see the strong momentum in our business as Q1 GMV of 1.1 billion nearly surpassed Q4's holiday season GMV of 1.2 billion.

Speaker #1: On slide 12, you can see the strong momentum in our business as Q1 GMV of 1.1 billion nearly surpassed Q4's holiday season GMV of 1.2 billion.

Speaker #1: Sequentially, our revenue yield rose to 12.2% from 11.2% due to seasonality, which I addressed in my earlier remarks. Year-over-year, however, revenue yield declined 80 basis points due to the mix in merchant and virtual card activity, plus a reduction in the number of consumer fees charged.

Lee Brading: Sequentially, our revenue yield rose to 12.2% from 11.2% due to seasonality, which I addressed in my earlier remarks. Year-over-year, however, revenue yield declined 80 basis points due to the mix in merchant and virtual card activity, plus a reduction in the number of consumer fees charged. Slides 13 through 15 dive into our unit economics, which are powering our bottom-line results. As a reminder, transaction-related costs is a non-GAAP measure that combines transaction expense, provision for credit losses, and net interest expense. You might hear us refer to gross margin or net transaction margin, which is total revenue less transaction-related costs. Let's jump to slide 14 and review the three cost components of transaction-related costs. Each of the three components had a favorable year-over-year move.

Speaker #1: Slides of 13 through 15 dive into our unit economics, which are powering our bottom-line results. As a reminder, transaction-related costs is a non-GAAP measure that combines transaction expense, provision for credit losses, and net interest expense.

Speaker #1: You might hear us refer to gross margin or net transaction margin, which is total revenue less transaction-related costs. Let's jump to slide 14 and review the three cost components of transaction-related costs.

Speaker #1: Each of the three components had a favorable year-over-year move. Transaction expense consisting mostly of payment processing costs continues to experience the benefits of us driving consumer adoption toward lower-cost payment channels such as ACH.

Lee Brading: Transaction expense, consisting mostly of payment processing costs, continues to experience the benefits of us driving consumer adoption toward lower cost payment channels such as ACH. Meanwhile, our provision for credit losses fell year-over-year because of the better-than-expected performance in the current year's portfolio as well as prior year vintages. Further, we are not seeing any unusual strains on the consumer, and as noted earlier, seasonally, this is our best quarter for provisioning for credit losses. The story is not simply about consumers doing better than expected. Our team continues to enhance their toolkit and decisioning. Our underwriting team is exploring new data sources, accelerating model iterations, and utilizing new machine learning techniques and collections. All of these add up to improvements as we scrutinize every lever of our underwriting inputs. Lastly, net interest expense remained low at 0.3% of GMV.

Speaker #1: Meanwhile, our provision for credit losses fell year over year because of the better-than-expected performance in the current year's portfolio, as well as prior-year vintages.

Speaker #1: Further, we are not seeing any unusual strains on the consumer, and as noted earlier, seasonally, this is our best quarter for provisioning for credit losses.

Speaker #1: But the story is not simply about consumers doing better than expected. Our team continues to enhance their toolkit and decisioning. Our underwriting team is exploring new data sources, accelerating model iterations, and utilizing new machine learning techniques and collections.

Lee Brading: The story is not simply about consumers doing better than expected. Our team continues to enhance their toolkit and decisioning. Our underwriting team is exploring new data sources, accelerating model iterations, and utilizing new machine learning techniques and collections. All of these add up to improvements as we scrutinize every lever of our underwriting inputs. Lastly, net interest expense remained low at 0.3% of GMV.

Speaker #1: All of these add up to improvements as we scrutinize every lever of our underwriting inputs. Lastly, net interest expense remained low at 0.3% of GMV.

Speaker #1: There is further room for improvement here as we move forward with refinancing our current credit facility. Which matures next April. Slides 13 and 14 demonstrate our hyper-focus on unit economics and its components.

Lee Brading: There is further room for improvement here as we move forward with refinancing our current credit facility, which matures next April. Slides 13 and 14 demonstrate our hyper-focus on unit economics and its components. It is evident how it all comes together on slide 15. We continue to find ways to improve our economic model and not sacrifice growth. We recognize the importance of profitability as it allows us to pursue strategic initiatives that will further propel the business. As we have stated in the past, our goal is to drive our business and profitability with revenue less transaction-related costs in the 55% to 65% range. Our hyper-focus on cost does not stop at the unit economic line. It extends to our non-transaction-related operating expenses too, as shown on slide 16.

Speaker #1: It is evident how it all comes together on slide 15. We continue to find ways to improve our economic model and not sacrifice growth.

Speaker #1: We recognize the importance of profitability, as it allows us to pursue strategic initiatives that will further propel the business. As we have stated in the past, our goal is to drive our business and profitability with revenue less transaction-related costs, and within the 55% to 65% range.

Speaker #1: Our hyper-focus on costs does not stop at the unit economic line. It extends to our non-transaction-related operating expenses too, as shown on slide 16.

Speaker #1: Even as we more than doubled marketing spend year over year, we continue to generate operating leverage across the business, particularly in personnel costs. While our team has grown, we have scaled thoughtfully and remained disciplined in where we add resources.

Lee Brading: Even as we more than doubled marketing spend year-over-year, we continued to generate operating leverage across the business, particularly in personnel costs. While our team has grown, we have scaled thoughtfully and remain disciplined in where we add resources. Looking ahead, we expect to continue leveraging our operating expense base while still investing in the areas that are delivering attractive returns. We did incur minor costs related to our corporate strategic projects during the quarter. Our antitrust suit is currently ongoing and something we cannot elaborate further on. We are making progress on the banking charter process and have moved beyond the discovery phase as we are now actively hiring executives and non-executive directors. We anticipate submitting our application mid-2026. We recognize this process is long and not guaranteed, but we believe it is an important strategic opportunity to pursue.

Speaker #1: Looking ahead, we expect to continue leveraging our operating expense base while still investing in the areas that are delivering attractive returns. We did incur minor costs related to our corporate strategic projects during the quarter.

Speaker #1: Our antitrust suit is currently ongoing, and something we cannot elaborate further on. We are making progress on the banking charter process and have moved beyond the discovery phase as we are now actively hiring executives and non-executive directors.

Speaker #1: We anticipate submitting our application in mid-2026. We recognize this process is lengthy and not guaranteed, but we believe it is an important strategic opportunity to pursue.

Speaker #1: FESL's significant momentum is evident in our bottom-line results shown on slide 17. Driven by a healthy unit economic story and leveraging our non-transaction-related OPEX, net income outpaced our top-line growth.

Lee Brading: Sezzle's significant momentum is evident in our bottom-line results shown on slide 17. Driven by a healthy unit economic story and leveraging our non-transaction-related OPEX, net income outpaced our top-line growth. For the quarter, GAAP net income reached $51.3 million, representing a 37.9% profit margin. Adjusted net income was $50 million, and adjusted EBITDA was $71.1 million, a 52.5% margin. Each of these reflects an all-time high for Sezzle. Our liquidity remains strong, as shown on slide 18, as we ended the quarter with $147.4 million in cash, including $26.9 million in restricted cash. In addition, we had $69 million in availability under our line of credit. Working capital did build relative to previous quarters due to the launch of Pay in Five in January.

Speaker #1: For the quarter, GAAP net income reached 51.3 million, representing a 37.9% profit margin. Adjusted net income was 50 million, and adjusted EBITDA was 71.1 million, a 52.5% margin.

Speaker #1: Each of these reflects an all-time high for FESL. Our liquidity remained strong, as shown on slide 18, as we ended the quarter with 147.4 million in cash, including 26.9 million in restricted cash.

Speaker #1: In addition, we had 69 million in availability under our line of credit. Working capital did build relative to previous quarters due to the launch of Pay-in-Five in January.

Speaker #1: But as noted, we have plenty of liquidity. The strength of our liquidity and cash flow generation is further exemplified by us repurchasing $24.8 million worth of common stock during the quarter, which will be disclosed in our 10-Q that will be available tomorrow.

Lee Brading: As noted, we have plenty of liquidity. The strength of our liquidity and cash flow generation is further exemplified by us repurchasing $24.8 million worth of common stock during the quarter, which will be disclosed in our 10-Q that will be available tomorrow. On slide 19, we update our guidance. We are raising our guidance across the board. We now expect revenue growth of 30% to 35%, adjusted net income of $180 million, and adjusted net income per share of $5.10. Before passing the call over to the operator for Q&A, I want to remind investors of a few items. First, we target total revenue less transaction-related cost margin of 55% to 65%.

Speaker #1: On slide 19, we update our guidance. We are raising our guidance across the board. We now expect revenue growth of 30 to 35 percent, adjusted net income of 180 million, and adjusted net income per share of $5.10.

Speaker #1: Before passing the call over to the operator for Q&A, I want to remind investors of a few items. First, we target total revenue less transaction-related cost margin of 55% to 65%, and within this margin calculation, we target a provision for credit losses in the 2.5% to 3% of GMV range.

Lee Brading: Within this margin calculation, we target a provision for credit losses in the 2.5% to 3% of GMV range. Second, we expect to continue to leverage our non-transaction related OpEx as we anticipate growth in the top line to outpace our spending. Third, do not forget about the seasonality in our business that I discussed earlier in the call. Last, this guidance does not reflect any projections for new products currently in development. With that, I would like to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

Speaker #1: Second, we expect to continue to leverage our non-transaction-related OPEX as we anticipate growth in the top line to outpace our spending. Third, do not forget about the seasonality in our business that I discussed earlier in the call.

Speaker #1: And last, this guidance does not reflect any projections for new products currently in development. With that, I would like to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

Speaker #2: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press *1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys.

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Speaker #2: The first question comes from Mike Grundahl with Northland. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Hey, guys. Congrats on the strong quarter and progress. I'm looking at slide 6, Pay-in-Five, virtual card in Canada, the mobile plan, and enhanced long-term lending.

Mike Grondahl: Hey, guys. Congrats on the strong quarter in progress. I'm looking at slide six, Pay in Five, virtual card in Canada, the mobile plan, and enhanced long-term lending. Charlie, if you had to project out a year or guess, what do you think is going to be the most important out of those four? Or could you kind of rank them?

Speaker #3: Charlie, if you had to project out a year or guess, what do you think is going to be the most important out of those four, or could you kind of rank them?

Speaker #4: Yeah, I would say Pay-in-Five. I mean, just because it's already proven. To have results for us. I know it's I know many of the people on the call are not our target customer.

Charlie Youakim: Yeah, I would say Pay in Five. I mean, just 'cause it's already proven to have results for us. I know many of the people on the call are not our target customer. But our target customer, you know, middle America, value-seeking consumers, we surveyed, we asked, and even though Pay in Five seems like it's just an incremental change over Pay in Four, there was a big demand among our consumer base for that incremental change, and we've seen it in the implementation. So the other products, virtual card in Canada, it's not quite fully launched. Our goal with that virtual card in Canada product is to get that to truly anywhere. You can see in the subscription it's closed-end at the moment.

Speaker #4: But our target customer, middle America, value-seeking consumers, we surveyed, we asked, and even though Pay-in-Five seems like just an incremental change over Pay-in-Four, there was a big demand among our consumer base for that incremental change.

Speaker #4: And we've seen it in the implementation. So the other products, virtual card in Canada, it's not quite fully launched. Our goal with that virtual card in Canada product is to get that to truly anywhere.

Speaker #4: You can see in the subscript, it's closed end at the moment. As soon as that goes live, I would say that also has some pretty serious potential, but it's also in Canada, which is 10% of our volume.

Charlie Youakim: As soon as that goes live, I would say that also has some pretty serious potential, but it's also in Canada, which is, you know, 10% of our volume. It's like, it's going to help us, but it's 10% of the potential volume. Then Sezzle Mobile plans, enhanced long-term lending, they're just really early. Sezzle Mobile plan, not really designed to drive revenue, gross margin, more designed to increase retention, deliver value to consumers. Financially not going to be delivering massive numbers, I think, at any point, for investors to look at. Then enhanced long-term lending, that's always been, you know, more of a nice sidecar for us as a product. We've had that in our history. We're just making it better.

Speaker #4: So it's going to help us, but it's 10% of the potential volume. And then FESL mobile plans enhanced long-term lending, they're just really early.

Speaker #4: Mobile plan, not really designed to drive revenue, gross margin, more designed to increase retention, deliver value to consumers. So financially, not going to be delivering massive numbers.

Speaker #4: I think at any point, for investors, to look at. And then enhanced long-term lending, that's always been more of a nice sidecar for us as a product.

Speaker #4: We've had that in our history. We're just making it better. And it's also never been a massive driver in results in terms of financial results, at least.

Charlie Youakim: It's also never been a massive driver in results, in terms of financial results, at least. It's a product some of our consumers do like, yeah.

Speaker #4: But a product for consumers do like, yeah.

Speaker #3: Got it. And then maybe just a question on marketing. What channels or where are you getting sort of the best returns there? And then what's kind of your outlook on marketing spend the rest of the year?

Mike Grondahl: Got it. Maybe just a question on marketing. What channels or where are you getting sort of the best returns there? What's kind of your outlook on marketing spend the rest of the year?

Speaker #4: Well, marketing spend, we still have the term rules. We've got that deal going here. Another year and by the way, go Timberwolves. I really hope they beat this first tonight.

Charlie Youakim: Well, you know, marketing spend, we still have the Timberwolves. We've got that deal going here, another year. By the way, go Timberwolves. I really hope they beat the Spurs tonight. Planning on it.

Speaker #4: Planning on it. But we want to see them in the championship. But yeah, we've got the Timberwolves sponsorship going. But that's more of brand awareness type of play.

Mike Grondahl: No doubt.

Charlie Youakim: We want to see them in the championship. Yeah, we've got the Timberwolves sponsorship going. That's more of like, you know, brand awareness type of play. The actual channels that deliver the results for us are advertising channels and, you know, it's really the usual suspects. You know, web ads, social media ads, in-app ad networks. You know, we're pushing more into connected TV, you know, basically like the YouTubes of the world, you know, connecting to those ads. Basically just testing across the board and, you know, wherever we see better results, we just keep on pumping a little bit more. That's it.

Speaker #4: The actual channels that deliver the results for us are advertising channels and it's really the usual suspects. Web ads, social media ads, in-app ad networks, we're pushing more into connected TV, basically like the YouTubes of the world, connecting to those ads.

Speaker #4: And basically just testing across the board. And wherever we see better results, we just keep on pumping a little bit more. And that's if you look at our results, you can basically see we keep on feathering on the marketing spend as the results keep on playing out.

Charlie Youakim: If you look at our results, you can basically see, we keep on feathering on the marketing spend as the results keep on playing out.

Speaker #3: Yeah, that's fair. That chart's helpful. Okay. Hey, thank you.

Mike Grondahl: Yeah, that's fair. That chart's helpful. Okay. Hey, thank you.

Lee Brading: Mike, I'll just add a little more color to on that marketing spend. Just if you look from a, you know, year over year in absolute terms, Mike, it's definitely up. But if you think about it also looking as a percent of our revenue, you know, it's fairly reasonable and actually slightly lower than where it was if you look at Q2 last year. We do have the ability to leverage that spend.

Speaker #5: I'll just add a little more color too on that marketing spend. Just if you look from a year-over-year and absolute terms, Mike, it's definitely up.

Speaker #5: But if you think about it, also looking as a percent of our revenue, it's fairly reasonable and actually slightly lower than where it was if you look at Q2 last year.

Speaker #5: So, we do have the ability to leverage that spend.

Speaker #3: Perfect. Okay. Thank you.

Mike Grondahl: Perfect. Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #2: The next question comes from Kyle Peterson with Needham. Please go ahead.

Operator 2: The next question comes from Kyle Peterson with Needham. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Kyle Peterson with Needham. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Great. Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and really nice results. I wanted to start out on the credit costs. I appreciate the commentary and reminders and the seasonality, but I guess just looking at it, the losses as a percentage of GMV, we're still better than expected and down year on year.

Kyle Peterson: Great. Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking the questions, and really nice results. I want to start out on, you know, the credit costs. You know, I appreciate the commentary and reminders on the seasonality, but I guess just looking at it, the losses as a percentage of GMV were still, you know, better than expected and down year-over-year. I guess, like, how should we think about some of the puts and takes and what your expectations are of getting back to that 2.5 to 3.5 range, especially as like Pay in Five and some of these other products scale. Just wanna see like what's conservative versus mix and, you know, if there's some potential upside to that number.

Speaker #6: So I guess how should we think about some of the puts and takes and what your expectations are of getting back to that two and a half to three and a half range?

Speaker #6: Especially as Pay-in-Five and some of these other products scale. Just want to see what's conservative versus mix and if there's some potential upside to that number.

Speaker #4: Well, thanks, Kyle. Thanks for the question. I'll let Lee follow up if Lee, if you think I missed anything here. But part of the reason part of the thing to consider when you look at our quarterly results is part of the results is actually reconciliation of the because it's a provision.

Charlie Youakim: Thanks. Thanks, Kyle. Thanks for the question. I'll let Lee follow up if I'm, you know, Lee, if you think I missed anything here. You know, part of the thing to consider when you look at our quarterly results is part of the result is actually reconciliation of the 'cause it's a provision. It's reconciliation of the prior quarter. Every quarter that we post is an estimation of what the loans for that quarter will be in terms of their estimated loss rates. You know, we basically had some, you'd call, overestimation in prior quarter that leaks in or underestimations. In this case, we had overestimation leaked in Q1, affecting that a little bit to the downside.

Speaker #4: It's reconciliation of the prior quarter. So every quarter that we post is an estimation. Of what the loans for that quarter will be in terms of their estimated loss rates.

Speaker #4: And so if we basically had some you call overestimation in prior quarter that can let leaks in or underestimations in this case, we had overestimation leaked in the first quarter affecting that a little bit to the downside.

Charlie Youakim: I think take that with a grain of salt. I think trend lines on the provision are a really good idea and because of the fact that we have to estimate. It usually is two quarters worth, and then once we've got Q1 posted, it's basically washed out Q4 estimations. That's always something to consider. We also have seasonality. I think we're still spot on. You know, the plan is still to see, you know, $2.5 to 3 for the provision for the year. Part of that is because we're expanding our marketing spend. Marketing spend increases new users. New users have higher provisions.

Speaker #4: So always, I think, take that with a I think trend lines on the provision are a really good idea. And because of the fact that we have to estimate.

Speaker #4: And it usually is two quarters' worth. And then once we've got first quarter posted, it's basically washed out fourth quarter estimations. But that's always something to consider.

Speaker #4: Also, we have seasonality. But I think we're still spot the plan is still to see 2.5 to 3 for the provision for the year.

Speaker #4: Part of that is because we're expanding our marketing spend. Marketing spend increases new users. New users have higher provisions. I would say Pay-in-Five, one of the trade-offs with Pay-in-Five is that it does just logically have a slightly higher provision inherent to the idea.

Charlie Youakim: I would say Pay in Five, one of the trade-offs with Pay in Five is that it does just logically have a slightly higher provision inherent to the idea. The way we've designed the product mix, we think we account for that in terms of like a matching principle on potentially, you know, the fees that are collected from some of the failures. It almost like financially plays out as a wash, but the way it doesn't play out as a wash is it could potentially increase provision a bit. I think we're comfortable with what we projected. You know, every time we provision, it's actual provision, and actual pure estimation. Again, estimations are almost 100% guaranteed to be incorrect one way or the other. I don't know, Lee, anything to add?

Speaker #4: But the way we've designed the product mix, we think the account for that in terms of a matching principle on potentially the fees that are collected from some of the failures.

Speaker #4: So it almost financially plays out as a wash, but where it doesn't play out as a wash is it could potentially increase provision a bit.

Speaker #4: So I think we're comfortable with what we projected. Every time we provision, it's actual provision and actual pure estimation. But again, estimations are almost 100% guaranteed to be incorrect one way or the other.

Speaker #4: I don't know, Lee, anything to add?

Speaker #5: I'll just reemphasize what you said. I think, yeah, Q1 is I don't want to say anomaly, but it is the easier or tougher comp, I guess, so to speak, from a standpoint of collections.

Lee Brading: I'll just reemphasize what you said. I think, yeah, Q1 is, I don't wanna say anomaly, but it is the, you know, the easier or tougher comp, I guess, so to speak, from a standpoint of collections and the provision standpoint. I get where you guys on the outside looking in, looking at the challenge going, Wow, it's such a great quarter. Would love to annualize this. You know, as the year progresses, we get a little more aggressive too from the new, as Charlie mentioned, bringing in new users. And not to mention that Pay in Five is just getting started, and we would expect to have probably initially a little higher loss rates on that as well. I think our we're very comfortable with our 2.5% to 3%.

Speaker #5: And the provision standpoint. So I get where you guys on the outside looking in and looking at the challenge going, "Wow, it's such a great quarter.

Speaker #5: I would love to annualize this." But as the year progresses, we get a little more aggressive too from the new, as Charlie mentioned, bringing in new users.

Speaker #5: And not to mention that Pay-in-Five is just getting started. And we would expect to have probably initially a little higher loss rates on that as well.

Speaker #5: So I think our we're very comfortable with our two and a half to three.

Speaker #6: Okay. Great. Yeah, that's really helpful color. And then as a follow-up, I wanted to ask about the partnership you guys have or announced with Pagaya I guess from the sounds of it, I guess, is this kind of a way that you guys can get into some more longer-term lending and how will this partnership scale and be funded?

Kyle Peterson: Okay, great. You know, that's really helpful color. As a follow-up, I wanted to ask about, you know, the partnership you guys have or announced with Pagaya. I guess from the sound of it, is this, you know, kind of a way that you guys can get into some more longer-term lending and, you know, how will, you know, this partnership scale and, you know, be funded? Like, are you guys contributing anything there? I guess if not, like, what's your kinda path to monetization, as that scales?

Speaker #6: Are you guys contributing anything there? And I guess if not, what's your kind of path to monetization? Is that a sketch?

Speaker #4: Yeah, good question. In terms of monetization, it's really just a take rate on the almost like an MDR. We're not sharing in the risk on that product.

Charlie Youakim: Yeah, good question. You know, in terms of monetization, it's really just you know, a take rate almost like an MDR. You know, we're not sharing in the risk on that product, although we're trying to help Pagaya with their results as much as possible because they're a partner of ours. But it's really just like a skim off the volume that goes through that that comes to us for running the product through our platform. For the consumer value, I would say it's primarily to help the company win merchant deals.

Speaker #4: Although we're trying to help Pagaya with their results. As much as possible because they're a partner of ours. But it's really just a skim off the volume that goes through that that comes to us for running the product through our platform.

Speaker #4: And then for the consumer value, I would say it's primarily to help the company win merchant deals. That's primarily why we've got the product in there because they're a number of merchants that have average order values that span a larger range than our core products.

Charlie Youakim: That's primarily why we've got the product in there, because there are a number of merchants that have average order values that span a larger range than our core product's sweet spot, which is like, you know, more like $100 or maybe $80 to $200 for a sweet spot. When a merchant has AOV that rise above that, like a general merchandiser, they want to see that you have the capability to help them on some bigger ticket items. By having this partnership, it helps our sales team win some more of those merchant deals. Our plans are to also mix this into some of our D2C products as well, and that's more about just providing as much value as we can to our consumer through our product mix.

Speaker #4: Core. Sweet spot, which is more $100, or maybe $80 to $200, for a sweet spot. And when a merchant has AOBs that rise above that, like a general merchandiser, they want to see that you have the capability to help them on some bigger ticket items.

Speaker #4: So by having this partnership, it helps our sales team win some more of those merchant deals. But then our plans are to also mix this into some of our D2C products as well.

Speaker #4: And that's more about just providing as much value as we can to our consumer through our product mix. We like staying in the shorter-term products, which is why we've always partnered on longer-term products.

Charlie Youakim: We like staying in the shorter-term products, which is why we've always partnered on longer-term products. We like the nature of our product and the terms, et cetera. It's just all the financial metrics around it. We're very comfortable with it, and we think, you know, give that longer-term product to people that specialize in it, and Pagaya is one of those partners.

Speaker #4: We like the nature of our product and the turns, etc. Just all the financial metrics around it. We're very comfortable with it. And we think give that longer-term product to people that specialize in it and Pagaya is one of those partners.

Speaker #6: Great. Thanks for all the color. And nice quarter.

Kyle Peterson: Great. Thanks for all the color and nice quarter.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Charlie Youakim: Thank you.

Speaker #1: The next question comes from howgetchwithbryleysecurities. Please go ahead Hey, thanks, guys. Could you give us some color on any middle market merchants, enterprise customers?

Operator 2: The next question comes from Hal Goetsch with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Hal Goetsch with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Hal Goetsch: Hey, thanks, guys. Could you give us some color on any, you know, middle market merchants, enterprise customers? Are you generally just seeing broad new merchants coming from subscribers who are taking their virtual cards and their Anywhere subscriptions to many, many more merchants? Could you give us any color on that?

Speaker #1: Are you generally just seeing broad new merchants coming from subscribers who are taking their virtual cards and they're anywhere—subscription to many, many more merchants?

Speaker #1: Could you give us any color on that?

Speaker #6: Yeah, we're seeing basically a continued trend on the I mean, our business is becoming more and more and more direct to consumer, more and more and more open loop, just I think that's where the trend is in our entire industry.

Charlie Youakim: Yeah, we're seeing, you know, basically a continued trend on the, I mean, our business is becoming more and more and more direct to consumer, more and more and more open loop. Just I think that's where the trend is in our entire industry, which I think actually mimics, you know, None of us are probably old enough to know the actual of what happened in the credit card industry. Basically, you know, from my understanding of reading back to the credit card industry days, you know, a lot of things started closed loop, then they moved to open loop. I think the BNPL space is gonna do the same thing. It's gonna. You know, we all started closed loop, slowly realizing customers love the product so much they wanna use it everywhere, which leads to open loop.

Speaker #6: Which I think actually mimics I think none of us are probably old enough to know the actual of what happened in the credit card industry.

Speaker #6: But basically, from my understanding of reading back to the credit card industry days, a lot of things started closed loop, and then they moved to open loop.

Speaker #6: I think the BMPL space is going to do the same thing. It's going to we all started closed loop. Slowly realizing customers love the product so much they want to use it everywhere, which leads to open loop.

Charlie Youakim: I think what we're seeing is our consumers using us in more and more just general purpose locations, like more shopping, with grocery, more shopping with general merchandisers. We're seeing more and more and more of that, which matches that ideology or the want to use the product in more places. Our sales team is still out there, and we have new product, we have new services, new features that helps them land more enterprise merchants. You know, it's probably gonna take five to 10 years for this transition to open loop to completely play out. In the meantime, we can still deliver a lot of value to merchants on the spot.

Speaker #6: And so I think what we're seeing is our consumers using us in more and more just general-purpose locations like more shopping, with grocery, more shopping with general merchandisers.

Speaker #6: We're seeing more and more and more of that, which matches that ideology or the want to use the product in more places. But our sales team is still out there.

Speaker #6: And we have new product. We have new services, new features. That helps them land more enterprise merchants. Because we're not it's probably going to take 5 to 10 years for this transition to open loop to completely play out.

Speaker #6: In the meantime, we can still deliver a lot of value to merchants on the spot. And I think if you look at the credit card industry, it's always stayed there's always been some sort of closed loop aspect.

Charlie Youakim: I think, you know, if you look at the credit card industry, it's always stayed, there's always been some sort of closed loop aspect. You still have private label products out there with the credit card ecosystems. I think we'll continue to have the sales channel on merchant. We've got on-demand now, which can, you know, we can offer merchants that have thinner margins the ability to pass on some of the fees to consumer. That's helping us win some more deals. We've got the Pagaya launch that just occurred. That's gonna help the sales team win more deals. I think we're gonna have this as a part of our ecosystem, and one that generates, you know, even more returns for us. It's an area of the business we're gonna keep on growing.

Speaker #6: You still have Thrive label products out there. With the credit card ecosystems. So I think we'll continue to have the sales channel on merchant.

Speaker #6: We've got on-demand now, which we can offer merchants that have thinner margins the ability to pass on some of the fees to consumer. That's helping us win some more deals.

Speaker #6: We've got the Bagaya launch that just occurred. That's going to help the sales team win more deals. And so I think we're going to have this as a part of our ecosystem and one that generates even more returns for us.

Speaker #6: So it's an area of the business we're going to keep on growing. But it's probably not going to be growing as fast as the D2C because we're just seeing incredible growth on that right now.

Charlie Youakim: It's probably not gonna be growing as fast as the D2C, 'cause we're just seeing incredible growth on that right now.

Hal Goetsch: Okay.

Speaker #5: I would add too, Charlie, that we view merchants primarily as a customer acquisition channel. As we've pushed more into marketing channels, as Charlie just mentioned on this call, social advertising, app store advertising, merchants are a great channel for us to acquire new customers in.

Paul Paradis: I would add too, Charlie, that we view merchants primarily as a customer acquisition channel. You know, as we've pushed more into marketing channels, as Charlie, you know, just mentioned on this call, social advertising, app store advertising, merchants are a great channel for us to acquire new customers in, that's why we're gonna continue selling into those merchants, but it's becoming a less important part of our overall business.

Speaker #5: And that's why we're going to continue selling into those merchants. But it's becoming a less important part of our overall business.

Speaker #1: Terrific. And on the marketing advertising, nice commitment to spending growth year over year and sequentially from Q1 of last year and Q4. Would you expect the level of dollar spending to move incrementally higher from here or flattish quarter over quarter?

Hal Goetsch: Terrific. On the marketing advertising, you know, nice commitment to spending growth year over year and sequentially from Q1 of last year and Q4. Would you expect the level of dollar spending to move incrementally higher from here or flattish quarter over quarter? What are your thoughts on the spending commitment in marketing this year?

Speaker #1: What are your thoughts on the spending commitment in marketing this year?

Speaker #4: I think we expect it to continue to rise. Quarter on quarter. Because the team is finding more and more places to place ads. And our mandate to them or our guidance to them is if you can find places to get the return we're looking for, we want you to place the ads.

Charlie Youakim: I think we expect it to continue to rise quarter on quarter because the team is finding more and more places to place ads. Our mandate to them, or our guidance to them is, "If you can find places to get the return we're looking for, we want you to place the ads." Their job is to go out hunting for more and more places to place the ads where they can get the return. If they can do it, we're telling them to do it.

Speaker #4: So their job is to go out hunting for more and more places to place the ads where they can get the return. And if they can do it, we're telling them to do it.

Speaker #1: Excellent. And last question from me. Can you just give us your thoughts on the macro? We've had a you serve a value-focused customer. We've had a pretty good amount of narrative in the news about affordability over the last six months.

Hal Goetsch: Excellent. The last question from me. Can you just give us your thoughts on the macro? We've had, you know, you serve a value-focused customer. We've had a pretty good amount of narrative in the news about affordability over the last six months and now this gas price spike. Just wanna get your thoughts on what you're seeing real time in the business.

Speaker #1: And now this gas price spike. And just want to get your thoughts on what you're seeing real-time in the business.

Speaker #4: Yeah. In terms of our customer base, I think that we're people have asked us about macro trends. Are you guys seeing anything? I don't the only thing we've ever seen in our history that I can call out in our numbers where I really have seen something is COVID.

Charlie Youakim: Yeah. You know, in terms of our customer base, I think that we're. You know, people have asked us about like macro trends. Do you guys see anything? I don't. The only thing we've ever seen in our history that I can call out in our numbers where I really have seen something is COVID. Both the spike down with closures and the spike up once people got stimulus checks. Outside of that, we really don't pick up anything. I, you know, it seems like our customers are perfectly healthy to us when we look at the numbers. We're not seeing anything now. I, you know, I know people have brought that concern about like, you know, gas prices that really hits mid- to low-income consumers more. You know, maybe the mid- to low-income consumer just works a bit more, which is natural.

Speaker #4: Both the spike down with closures and the spike up once people got stimulus checks. Outside of that, we really don't pick up anything. And it seems like our customers are perfectly healthy to us when we look at the numbers.

Charlie Youakim: Outside of that, we really don't pick up anything. I, you know, it seems like our customers are perfectly healthy to us when we look at the numbers. We're not seeing anything now. I, you know, I know people have brought that concern about like, you know, gas prices that really hits mid- to low-income consumers more. You know, maybe the mid- to low-income consumer just works a bit more, which is natural.

Speaker #4: We're not seeing anything, hell. So I know people have brought that concern about gas prices. It really hits mid to low-income consumers more. But maybe the mid to low-income consumer just works a bit more, which is natural.

Charlie Youakim: Like, you know, if you're realizing you're pinched a little bit, you gotta go out there and work a little bit more. I don't know. I'm just postulating. I just, we-

Speaker #4: If you're realizing you're pinched a little bit, you've got to go out there and work a little bit more. I don't know. I'm just postulating.

Speaker #4: We're just not seeing anything.

Hal Goetsch: Yeah

Charlie Youakim: We're just not seeing anything.

Speaker #1: All right. Terrific. Thanks a lot. Good job, guys.

Hal Goetsch: All right. Terrific. Thanks a lot. Good job, guys.

Speaker #4: Thanks.

Charlie Youakim: Thanks.

Speaker #1: The next question comes from Rayna Kumar with Oppenheimer, please go ahead.

Operator 2: The next question comes from Rayna Kumar with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Rayna Kumar with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Hi. Good evening. This is Anthony Saganovich filling in for Rayna. Thanks for taking the question. I was just curious. If you could just talk about some of the drivers of what you think might be accelerating revenue from the kind of 29% that you reported in the first quarter to that 30 to 35 percent range that you gave.

Anthony Staganovich: Hi, good evening. This is Anthony Staganovich filling in for Rayna. Thanks for taking the question. I was just curious if you could just talk about some of the drivers of what you think might be accelerating revenue from the kind of 29% that you reported in Q1 to that 30% to 35% range that you gave. Are you including any kind of uplift from Sezzle Mobile or Pay in 5 this year?

Speaker #7: Are you including any kind of uplift from Cezzle Mobile or PayN5 this year?

Speaker #5: Well, PayN5 is included now because it's part of our existing product mix. Cezzle Mobile, long-term, just launched, so that's not in anywhere projecting at this point.

Charlie Youakim: Well, Pay in 5 is included now because it's part of our existing product mix. Sezzle Mobile long-term just launched, so that's not in anything we're projecting at this point. I think, you know, we are seeing some really nice momentum in subscriber growth. And you know, you've seen the, as we reported, on-demand down quarter-over-quarter. Some of that is, a lot of that is holiday, but some of that is also our renewed emphasis on subscribers. We really like to focus on subscribers. We think it builds a, you know, rolling snowball, which helps us. I think that probably is the, you know, primary reasons behind it. I don't know, Lee, anything else to add to that?

Speaker #5: I think we are seeing some really nice momentum in subscriber growth. And you've seen the as we reported, on-demand down quarter over quarter. Some of that is, I would say, a lot of that is holiday.

Speaker #5: But some of that is also our renewed emphasis on subscribers. And we really like to focus on subscribers. We think it builds that rolling snowball, which helps us.

Speaker #5: So I think that probably is the primary reason behind it. I don't know, Lee, anything else to add to that?

Speaker #8: Yeah. No, I think that's spot on. The only other thing I would add is just a little bit of the choppiness maybe or seasonality with our revenue yield.

Lee Brading: Yeah, no, I think that's spot on. The only other thing I would add is just a little bit of the choppiness maybe or seasonality with our revenue yield when we look at versus GMV. I think if you look, like this quarter was a tougher comp. I think next quarter we'll have an easier comp from a revenue yield standpoint. I think you'll see a smoothing out or a more consistent from Q3, Q4, similar with Q1. In the H1 of last year, we had some movement within our revenue side, and Duxie, you saw the spike last year, and we were down a little bit this year, but I think you'll get the smoothing out as we go through the quarters.

Speaker #8: When we look at versus GMV, I think if you look, this quarter was a tougher comp. I think next quarter we'll have an easier comp from a revenue yield standpoint.

Speaker #8: And then I think you'll see a smoothing out or a more consistent Q3, Q4, similar to what Q1. But in the first half of last year, we had some movement within our revenue side.

Speaker #8: And thus, you saw the spike last year, and we were down a little bit this year. But I think you'll get the smoothing out as we go through the quarters.

Speaker #7: Thanks. That's helpful. And I guess as a follow-up, I'm just looking at slide eight. There's a lot of new products that are on your roadmap here.

Anthony Staganovich: Thanks. That's helpful. I guess as a follow-up, I'm just looking at slide 8, and there's a lot of new products that are on your roadmap here. I mean, can you help us think about kind of a timeline for you to become this kind of all-in-one services platform? Secondarily, like, are you utilizing, you know, AI at all to help you develop any of these financial tools to kind of gain a little bit more operating leverage in your business? Thanks.

Speaker #7: I mean, can you help us think about kind of a timeline for you to become this kind of all-in-one services platform? And then secondarily, are you utilizing AI at all to help you develop any of these financial tools to kind of gain a little bit more operating leverage in your business?

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I mean, I think based on the list of items we see here, this is probably all of these items completed, launched, and scaling by the end of 2027.

Charlie Youakim: Yeah. I mean, that's I think, you know, based on the list of items we see here, this is probably all these items completed, launched, and scaling by the end of 2027, the ones we have outlined here. You know, I don't know if we ever will say the end is there in terms of innovation. We've always believed that we want to keep on innovating. I think we'll have a really nice platform by the end of 2027 in terms of like, you know, much more fully featured in terms of offerings to the consumer. We'll definitely have the deposit accounts in place by then. You know, secured credit card I could see potentially in that time period, but, you know, we'll see how things play out.

Speaker #4: The ones we have outlined here. But I don't know if we ever will say the end is there. In terms of innovation, we've always believed that we want to keep on innovating.

Speaker #4: But I think we'll have a really nice platform by the end of 2027 in terms of much more fully featured, in terms of offerings to the consumer, we'll definitely have the deposit accounts in place by then.

Speaker #4: Secured credit card, I could see potentially in that time period. But we'll see how things play out. Every time we announce products and send stuff, product roadmap, we always have new conversations.

Charlie Youakim: You know, every time we announce products and send stuff, you know, product roadmap, we always have, you know, new conversations. You know, that's why I'm hesitant as I say probably because, well, you know, there might be things that come up in the meantime that we think are more important for the consumer. I think over the next couple of years, I think we'll end of 2027, we'll have a really nice product mix. It's really interesting, your question on AI. Definitely. I mean, we have had some products thus far where the vast majority of the product development has been AI driven.

Speaker #4: So that's why I'm hesitant to say 'probably,' because there might be things that come up in the meantime that we think are more important for the consumer.

Speaker #4: But I think over the next couple of years, I think we'll end of 2027, we'll have a really nice product mix. And it's really interesting your question on AI.

Speaker #4: Definitely. I mean, we have had some products, thus far, where the vast majority of the product development has been AI-driven. I remember our product team on one of their internal calls calling out, "This product thus far has been 100% developed with the assistance of AI." From the visualizations, the screens, the flows, the planned flows, to the code, upwards of 80% of our code is now being developed by AI.

Charlie Youakim: I remember our product team on one of their internal calls calling out, you know, this product thus far has been 100% developed with the assistance of AI, you know, from the visualization, the screen, the flows, the plan flows to the code. You know, upwards of 80% of our code is now being developed by AI, with reviewed by our team. It's incredible. Our goal, the way we view it internally is we're asking our team to just to be more productive, you know. I know we see out there in the markets, like, I think it's some people talk about using AI to cut costs. I think our view is AI makes you a super-powered person. Use it.

Speaker #4: With reviewed by our team. It's incredible. And our goal, the way we view it internally, is we're asking our team to be more productive.

Speaker #4: I know we see out there in the markets, I think it's some people talk about using AI to cost cut. I think it's just such a half-glass empty way to look at things.

Speaker #4: I think our view is, AI makes you a superpowered person. Use it. Use it to increase our product development. Instead of launching one product this quarter, let's launch three.

Charlie Youakim: Use it to increase our product development. Instead of launching one product this quarter, let's launch three. Speed up, allow us to be a team that looks like 4,000 instead of, you know, 500 that we have with us. That's the way we utilize it. We're injecting it everywhere. We're basically mandating it everywhere. If you're a leader in the company that doesn't want to embrace AI, you're probably not going to be in the company much longer. That's not an issue. We already have the embrace. I'm just saying, like, that's how much we believe in it. We believe it's a necessary product that you have to use.

Speaker #4: Speed up. Allow us to be a team that looks like 4,000 instead of 500 that we have with us. So that's the way we utilize it.

Speaker #4: We're injecting it everywhere. We're basically mandating it everywhere. If you're a leader in the company that doesn't want to embrace AI, you're probably not going to be in the company much longer.

Speaker #4: But that's not an issue. We already have the embrace. So I'm just saying that's how much we believe in it. We believe it's a necessary.

Speaker #4: Product that you have to use.

Speaker #7: Great. Thanks for the color.

Anthony Staganovich: Great. Thanks for the color.

Speaker #1: The next question comes from Ryan Tomasello with KBW. Please go ahead.

Operator 2: The next question comes from Ryan Tomasello with KBW. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Ryan Tomasello with KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Thanks, everyone. In terms of the product pipeline, I think you've previously alluded to a cash advance product that's in the works. I was hoping you could give us an update on how that rollout is progressing.

Ryan Tomasello: Thanks, everyone. In terms of the product pipeline, I think you've previously alluded to a cash advance product that's in the works. Was hoping you can give us an update on how that rollout was progressing, anything you can share on engagement pricing, and also on the underwriting. Particularly on the latter with underwriting, Charlie, curious if you envision an opportunity to push more into direct cash flow linked underwriting to support that rollout, and, you know, if that could eventually, you know, support the broader kind of BNPL core credit product as well. Thanks.

Speaker #7: Anything you can share on engagement, pricing, and also on the underwriting and particularly on the latter with underwriting. Charlie, curious if you envision an opportunity to push more into direct cash flow linked underwriting to support that rollout and if that could eventually support the broader kind of BMPL core credit product as well.

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Yeah. We're testing a lot of different. Variations of our cash flow management product. And we've seen great engagement, which is nice. We definitely could tell the customer likes the product.

Charlie Youakim: Yeah. We're testing a lot of different. We have variations of our cash flow management product, and we've seen great engagement, which is nice. We definitely can tell the customer likes the product. Because of the regulatory environment we're in, we're very cautious about how we launch the product as well. The current plan is to have the product more mimic what we do with BNPL. It'd be like almost a Pay in Four, Pay in Five to yourself, kind of a cash flow product, probably limited to subscribers only is the idea, as a tool or another benefit for those subscribers. We think it'll be favorably viewed by the consumer base because of the pricing to that product. It'd probably be like one of the more lower cost cash management tools available to a consumer.

Speaker #4: Because of the regulatory environment we're in, we're very cautious about how we launch the product as well. So the current plan is to have the product more mimic what we do with BMPL.

Speaker #4: So it'd be like almost a pay in four, pay in five to yourself. Kind of a cash flow product. Probably limited to subscribers only is the idea.

Speaker #4: As a tool or another benefit for those subscribers. And we think it'll be favorably viewed by the consumer base because of the pricing to that product.

Speaker #4: So it'd probably be one of the more lower-cost cash management tools available to a consumer. Albeit, they have to be one of our subscribers, but that's the whole point.

Charlie Youakim: albeit they have to be, you know, one of our subscribers, but, you know, that's the whole point. We want to create more and more tooling that provides more and more value to get consumers into subscription ecosystem and keep them there. That's what we've seen from some of our testing. We've done some small scale testing. It increases engagement, it increases retention, increases happiness. It's one of those products. We plan to launch it here in the next, yeah, few months. Probably in the next three months, we'll have that product out in the market in a more serious way.

Speaker #4: We want to create more and more tooling that provides more and more value to get consumers into the subscription ecosystem and keep them there.

Speaker #4: And that's what we've seen from some of our testing. We've done some small-scale testing. It increases engagement. It increases retention. It increases happiness. So it's one of those products that we and we plan to launch it here in the next few months.

Speaker #4: So probably in the next three months, we'll have that product out in the market in a more serious way.

Speaker #7: Great. And then, sticking on the product pipeline topic—with the checking product, can you just talk about the timing there and how you envision going to market with the product?

Ryan Tomasello: Great. Sticking on the product pipeline topic with the checking product, can you just talk about the timing there and how you envision going to market with the product, any carrots that you might offer to help drive uptake, and then just elaborating on, like, the marketing investment that might be needed to support awareness and adoption? Thanks.

Speaker #7: Any carrots that you might offer to help drive uptake? And then just elaborating on the marketing investment that might be needed to support awareness and adoption.

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Yeah. That's another product coming in the next few months as well. Definitely by end of third quarter, it would be our estimation. But in terms of the actual planned pitch around the product and the planned integrations, nothing yet really concreter to speak of at this time.

Charlie Youakim: Yeah, that's another product, you know, coming in the next few months as well. You know, definitely by end of Q3 would be our estimation. In terms of like the actual like plan pitch around the product and the plan, planned integrations, nothing yet really concrete or to speak of at this time. The whole point is we want Sezzle to be the one-stop shop for the consumer, and we'll try to figure out, you know, give and takes or, you know, customer you give us X, we'll give you Y kind of arrangements. We think that that's the way we kind of like to, you know, mix our value to the customer if, you know, provide this value to the customer if they join up for X, Y, or Z.

Speaker #4: But we just the whole point is we want Sezzle to be the one-stop shop for the consumer. And we'll try to figure out, give and takes, or customer, you give us X, we'll give you Y, kind of arrangements.

Speaker #4: We think that that's the way we kind of like to mix our value to the customer. If we provide this value to the customer, if they join up for X, Y, or Z.

Speaker #4: So we don't have those nailed down, but we'll try to figure out some way to build it into the fold and create a compelling reason for consumers to join it.

Charlie Youakim: We don't have those nailed down, but we'll try to figure out some way to build it into the fold and create a compelling reason for consumers to join it. By doing so, I think we're seeing deposit accounts or thinking deposit accounts are a great way to increase retention.

Speaker #4: And by doing so, I think we're seeing deposit accounts—or thinking deposit accounts—are a great way to increase retention.

Speaker #7: Great. Thank you, guys.

Lee Brading: Great. Thank you, guys.

Ryan Tomasello: Great. Thank you, guys.

Speaker #1: The next question comes from Huang Wen with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Operator 2: The next question comes from Hoang Nguyen with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Operator: The next question comes from Hoang Nguyen with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Speaker #8: Thank you, and congratulations on the quarter. I want to ask about the revenue-less transaction cost margin, since you guys have been doing so well with that over the past couple of years, and it looks like it just keeps going up.

Hoang Nguyen: Thank you. Congratulations on the quarter. I want to ask on the revenue less transaction cost margin since you guys have been doing so well in that over the past couple of years, and it looks like it just keeps going up. If I look at Q1 this year, I think it's up by 4 points versus last year. I mean, can you talk about, you know, is there something that is making your margin, I guess, structurally higher, you know, year over year? You know, maybe can you talk about some of the levers that you can continue to pull to further improve on the margin?

Speaker #8: If I look at Q1 this year, I think it's up by 4 points versus last year. So, I mean, can you talk about if there is something that is making your margin, I guess, structurally higher?

Speaker #8: Year over year, and maybe can you talk about some of the levers that you can continue to pull to further improve on the margin?

Speaker #4: Yeah. I'll answer to some of that and pass it off to Lee for more detail. But some of these things on the COGS side, they're just helped by scale.

Charlie Youakim: Yeah. I'll answer to the, you know, some of that and pass it off to Lee for more detail. You know, some of these things on the, on the COGS side, they're just helped by scale. Transaction expense, as we have more scale, we get better payment processing rates. We're also, you know, in some ways incentivizing consumers to move over to ACH in some ways versus card processing. That's been helping our transaction expense, but scale always helps there. Net interest expense, as we get scale, we have lower costs of financing available to us. We're also packing on cash. You know, we're a cash-generative business, so we don't have to necessarily borrow as much from our line of credit, which also reduces the net interest expense. We've had some of that benefit.

Speaker #4: So transaction expense, as we have more scale, we get better payment processing rates. We're also in some ways incentivizing consumers to move over to ATH in some ways versus card processing.

Speaker #4: So that's been helping our transaction expense. But scale always helps there. Net interest expense, as we get scale, we have lower costs of financing available to us.

Speaker #4: We're also packing on cash. We're a cash-generative business. So we don't have to necessarily borrow as much from our line of credit, which also reduces the net interest expense.

Speaker #4: So we've had some of that benefit. Provision, probably a bit of a scale benefit there as well. The more we find repeat customers have better loss rates.

Charlie Youakim: Provision, you know, probably a bit of a scale benefit there as well. You know, we find repeat customers have better loss rates. As you scale up, you have more repeat customers generally. Of course, I always think it's like a good problem if we can scale growth of users in a big way. That one, you know, if we hit some of our goals, it might go the other direction if we are able to, you know, break through some finding that helps us scale users even faster. Generally, steady state, that also goes down because of our repeat user engagement. Then on the top side, I think the fact that you have subscription products as the driver, that tends to create a rolling benefit for the company on the top line.

Speaker #4: So as you scale up, you have more repeat customers generally. Of course, I always think it's a good problem if we can scale growth of users in a big way.

Speaker #4: So that one, if we hit some of our goals, it might go the other direction if we are able to break through some finding that helps us scale users even faster.

Speaker #4: But generally, steady state, that also goes down because of our repeat user engagement. And then on the top side, I think the fact that you have subscription products as the driver, that tends to create a rolling benefit for the company on the top line.

Speaker #4: So I think that's probably why you're seeing that. But as Lee mentioned a couple of times, just also want to reiterate for listeners that the 74% gross margin that we basically posted here in the first quarter, don't annualize it.

Charlie Youakim: I think that's probably why you're seeing that. As, you know, as Lee mentioned a couple times, just also want to reiterate for listeners that the 74% gross margin that we basically posted here in Q1, don't annualize it. We want to make sure investors know the Q4, Q1, there's some seasonal elements to that. I'll just explain it again because I think I want to make sure people understand it. The seasonal elements are mainly on the revenue side, but a little bit on the cost side with provision. As volume slows, the way we recognize costs, maybe that's the best way to say it. The way we recognize costs, we do it through provision.

Speaker #4: We want to make sure investors know the fourth quarter, first quarter, there's some seasonal elements to that. And I'll just explain it again because I think I want to make sure people understand it.

Speaker #4: The seasonal elements are mainly on the revenue side, but a little bit on the cost side with provision. As volume slows, the way we recognize costs—I mean, that's the best way to say it.

Speaker #4: The way we recognize costs, we do it through provision. So provision, we estimate right away in the quarter what the provision will be. So if you have a quarter like fourth quarter where volumes typically higher, steady state, because of holidays, we're taking all the costs and putting them into that fourth quarter.

Charlie Youakim: Provision, we estimate right away in the quarter what the provision will be. If you have a quarter like Q4 where volume's typically higher, steady state because of holidays, we're taking all the costs and putting them into that Q4. The revenues or what will be likely revenues are recognized on the payments which come into the Q1. You have a typically higher volume quarter, the Q4, due to seasonality, with payments rolling in, where the revenue is recognized into the Q1. We get more revenue coming into the Q1 from the Q4 on a lower volume, seasonally adjusted. We almost topped our Q4 volume, which speaks to the growth of the company, but we still had lower volume in the Q1 than we did the Q4.

Speaker #4: But the revenues or the what we'll be likely revenues are recognized on the payments, which come into the first quarter. So you have typically higher volume quarter, fourth quarter due to seasonality with payments rolling in, which where the revenue is recognized into the first quarter.

Speaker #4: So we get more revenue coming into the first quarter from the fourth quarter on a lower volume seasonally adjusted. We almost topped our fourth quarter volume, which speaks to the growth of the company.

Speaker #4: But we still have lower volume in the first quarter than we did the fourth quarter. So you'll have a generally higher revenue take rate in the first quarter as well.

Charlie Youakim: You'll have a generally higher revenue take rate in the first quarter as well. We wanted that which increases your gross margin in the quarter. We want to make sure people, like, keep that into consideration as they're looking at, you know, what happened this quarter. I don't know, Lee, anything else to add?

Speaker #4: So we wanted that, which increases your gross margin in the quarter. So we want to make sure people keep that into consideration as they're looking at what happened this quarter.

Speaker #4: I don't know, Lee, anything else to add?

Speaker #7: Yeah, just to emphasize that we generally talked about being in a 55% to 65% area from a gross margin, or revenue-less transaction-related cost. And we definitely have been trending on the higher end of that, the 60% to 65%, I would say.

Lee Brading: Yeah. I'd just emphasize that we generally, you know, have talked about being a 55% to 65% area from a gross margin or revenue less transaction-related costs. We've definitely been trending on the higher end of that, you know, the 60% to 65%, I would say. I think Charlie hit on it, but just to emphasize kind of the 3 key areas is, you know, on the transaction side or processing side, we have seen a move to more ACH, and we've been able to emphasize that. That's obviously gonna help us there. Also interest expense, I do expect, you know, us to get, as I mentioned in my comments on the line of credit side, you get some improvements there as we progress through this year as we refinance our facility.

Speaker #7: And I think Charlie hit on it, but just to emphasize kind of the three key areas on the transaction side or processing side. We have seen a move to more ACH, and we've been able to emphasize that.

Speaker #7: So that's obviously going to help us there. Also interest expense. I do expect us to get, as I mentioned on my comments, on the line of credit side, you get some improvements there as we progress through this year, as we refinance our facility.

Speaker #7: So that's to come, but I expect that to happen. And then on the provision, there's a little bit of a wild card, but we've seen that it can be a big swing factor, as you saw the year-over-year improvement there.

Lee Brading: That's to come, but I expect that to happen. On the provision, it's a little bit of a wild card, but, you know, that it can be a big swing factor as you saw the year over year improvement there this quarter, which also drove that, you know, outperformance if you looked on a year over year basis. We aren't necessarily booking in that same kind of outperformance going forward, but that's something else to be aware of.

Speaker #7: This quarter, which also drove that outperformance, if you looked over on a year-over-year basis. We aren't necessarily booking in that same kind of outperformance going forward, but that's something else to be aware of.

Speaker #5: Got it. And maybe if I can throw one more in, on the bank charter, I think, I mean, one of the benefits is that it could help you guys launch more products that you guys currently I guess currently cannot launch with the bank partners.

Hoang Nguyen: Got it. Maybe if I can throw one more in, on the bank charter. I mean, one of the benefit is that it could help you guys launch, you know, more products that you guys currently, I guess, currently cannot launch with a bank partner. Can you talk about the kind of products that, you know, that your own bank charter would, you know, allow you guys to launch, you know, that you currently may not be able to do so with your bank partner? Thank you.

Speaker #5: So can you talk about the kind of products that your own bank charter would allow you guys to launch that you currently may not be able to do so with your bank partner?

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Not necessarily. You can actually in today's environment with banking and service partnerships, you can pretty much launch every type of product out in the financial services world.

Charlie Youakim: Not necessarily. You can actually, in today's environment with banking and service partnerships, you can pretty much launch every type of product out in the financial services world. The main reasons for the bank partnership, I would say more defense from a regulatory perspective. We just think that, you know, it basically solidifies what we're doing. You know, there are some regulators out there in some states that are chopping away at the bank partnership model sadly, 'cause it's a great model. We're well aware of it. Getting to the ILC or to becoming a bank helps you basically push further away from that potential of that becoming an issue. It does move a variable cost stream to a fixed cost stream.

Speaker #4: The main reasons for the bank partnership, I would say, are more defense from a regulatory perspective. We just think that it basically solidifies what we're doing, and there are some regulators out there and some states that are chopping away at the bank partnership model.

Speaker #4: Sadly, because it's a great model, but we're well aware of it. And so getting to the ILC or to a becoming a bank helps you basically push further away from that potential of that becoming an issue.

Speaker #4: And then it does move a variable cost stream to a fixed cost stream. Because you basically have your fixed cost of your own bank and your staff versus the arrangement we have with WebBank currently, where it's more of a variable cost percentage of our volume.

Charlie Youakim: You know, 'cause you basically have your fixed cost of your own bank and your staff, versus the arrangement we have with WebBank currently, where it's more of a variable, a cost percentage of our volume. Over time, as our volumes grow, you can move to a fixed cost structure you're gonna save. It's, it's more savings, more regulatory defensibility. Maybe there is some, like, benefit on the product side. Maybe you can launch things faster because your bank is more hyper-focused on what you're doing. When you're talking to your regulator, you don't have, you know, 19 other partners, like banking as a service partners, and they have to talk to the regulator about all of them. You just talk to the regulator about what you're doing.

Speaker #4: So over time, as our volumes grow, you move to a fixed cost structure, you're going to save. So it's more savings regulatory defensibility maybe there is some benefit on the product side.

Speaker #4: Maybe you can launch things faster because your bank is more hyper-focused on what you're doing. So when you're talking to your regulator, you don't have 19 other partners, like banking-as-a-service partners; they have to talk to the regulator about all of them.

Speaker #4: You just talk to the regulator about what you're doing. So I could see it being faster potentially, but not necessarily limiting on what you can build.

Charlie Youakim: I could see it being faster potentially, but not necessarily limiting on what you can build.

Speaker #5: Got it. Thank you.

Hoang Nguyen: Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #1: This concludes our question and answer session and would like to turn the conference back over to Charlie Yoakim for any closing remarks.

Operator 2: This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Charlie Youakim for any closing remarks.

Operator: This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Charlie Youakim for any closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Thank you, operator. I'd like to leave with something Charlie Munger said that stuck with me. He said, "I think you should try to make your money in this world by selling other people things that are good for them." And I think that's a fair description of what we're doing at Sazzle.

Charlie Youakim: Thank you, operator. I'd like to leave with something Charlie Munger said that stuck with me. He said, I think you should try to make your money in this world by selling other people things that are good for them. I think that's a fair description of what we're doing at Sezzle. We're a company that thinks about this all the time. We believe our core products are much safer and less costly than existing financial products. We also go out of our way to find ways to help our consumers save money. We're helping our customers, and that feels good. The growth, the margins, and the cash generation we walked through today are the downstream effects of getting that right. Customers who improve their financial lives come back. They refer their friends, and they graduate up the platform through Sezzle Up. That's the flywheel.

Speaker #4: We're a company that thinks about this all the time. We believe our core products are much safer and less costly than existing financial products.

Speaker #4: We also go out of our way to find ways to help our consumers save money. We're helping our customers and that feels good. The growth, the margins, and the cash generation we walk through today are the downstream effects of getting that right.

Charlie Youakim: We also go out of our way to find ways to help our consumers save money. We're helping our customers, and that feels good. The growth, the margins, and the cash generation we walked through today are the downstream effects of getting that right. Customers who improve their financial lives come back. They refer their friends, and they graduate up the platform through Sezzle Up. That's the flywheel.

Speaker #4: Customers who improve their financial lives come back. They refer their friends. And they graduate up the platform through Sezzle Lab. That's the flywheel. And it not only spins with alignment, it only spins with alignment if the consumer is real.

Charlie Youakim: It not only spins with the alignment, it only spins with the alignment with the consumer is real. We've got a long way to go, and the environment around us is dynamic, and we're going to keep on earning our place one consumer at a time. Finally, a big thank you to the team for another quarter of disciplined execution. Thank you to our shareholders for the trust you continue to place in us. We'll talk to you next quarter. Thanks.

Speaker #4: We've got a long way to go. And the environment around us is dynamic. And we're going to keep on earning our place one consumer at a time.

Speaker #4: Finally, a big thank you to the team for another quarter of disciplined execution. And thank you to our shareholders for the trust you continue to place in us.

Speaker #4: We'll talk to you next quarter. Thanks.

Operator 2: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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