Q1 2026 Vitesse Energy Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to the Vitesse Energy Q1 2026 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to the Director, Investor Relations and Business Development at Vitesse, Ben Messier. Thank you. You may begin.
Speaker #2: Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to the director, Investor Relations and Business Development at Vitesse Ben Messier.
Speaker #2: Thank you, you may begin. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining. Today we will be discussing our first quarter 2026 results. Our 10Q and earnings release were released yesterday after market close, and an updated investor presentation can be found on the Vitesse website.
Ben Messier: Good morning, everyone, thanks for joining. Today, we will be discussing our Q1 2026 results. Our 10-Q and earnings release were released yesterday after market close, and an updated investor presentation can be found on the Vitesse website. I'm joined this morning by our CEO and President, Jamie Benard, our CFO, James Henderson, and Brian Cree, our former President, who is with us in a Senior Advisor capacity. Before we begin, please be reminded that this call may contain estimates, projections, and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements are subject to several risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. Please review our earnings release and risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC for additional information.
Ben Messier: Good morning, everyone, thanks for joining. Today, we will be discussing our Q1 2026 results. Our 10-Q and earnings release were released yesterday after market close, and an updated investor presentation can be found on the Vitesse website. I'm joined this morning by our CEO and President, Jamie Benard, our CFO, Jimmy Henderson, and Brian Cree, our former President, who is with us in a Senior Advisor capacity. Before we begin, please be reminded that this call may contain estimates, projections, and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements are subject to several risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. Please review our earnings release and risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC for additional information.
Speaker #2: I'm joined this morning by our CEO and President, Jamie Bernard; our CFO, Jimmy Henderson; and Brian Cree, our former President, who is with us in a senior advisor capacity.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, please be reminded that this call may contain estimates, projections, and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities Laws.
Speaker #2: Forward-looking statements are subject to several risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations.
Speaker #2: Please review our earnings release and risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC for additional information. In addition, today’s discussion may reference non-GAAP financial measures.
Ben Messier: In addition, today's discussion may reference non-GAAP financial measures. For reconciliation of historical non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly GAAP measure, please reference our 10-Q and earnings release. Now I will turn the call over to Vitesse' CEO and President, Jamie Benard.
Ben Messier: In addition, today's discussion may reference non-GAAP financial measures. For reconciliation of historical non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly GAAP measure, please reference our 10-Q and earnings release. Now I will turn the call over to Vitesse' CEO and President, Jamie Benard.
Speaker #2: For reconciliation of historical non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure, please reference our 10Q and earnings release. Now I will turn the call over to Vitesse's CEO and President, Jamie Bernard.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Ben. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. It's a privilege to begin my 10 years as CEO and President of Vitesse as of last Friday.
Jamie Benard: Thank you, Ben. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. It's a privilege to begin my tenure as CEO and President of the Vitesse as of last Friday. I wanna thank the group for their hard work getting us to where we are today, and I look forward to building on the strong foundation already in place. I wanna thank Brian Cree in particular, for his commitment to ensuring a seamless handoff and for his continued partnership as a senior advisor through this transition. The Vitesse's primary objective of returning capital to stockholders has not changed. Our board reaffirmed that commitment last week in declaring our Q2 cash dividend at an annualized rate of $1.75 per share. Our fundamental strategy remains consistent, disciplined capital allocation towards high rate of return opportunities.
Jamie Benard: Thank you, Ben. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. It's a privilege to begin my tenure as CEO and President of the Vitesse as of last Friday. I wanna thank the group for their hard work getting us to where we are today, and I look forward to building on the strong foundation already in place. I wanna thank Brian Cree in particular, for his commitment to ensuring a seamless handoff and for his continued partnership as a senior advisor through this transition. The Vitesse's primary objective of returning capital to stockholders has not changed. Our board reaffirmed that commitment last week in declaring our Q2 cash dividend at an annualized rate of $1.75 per share. Our fundamental strategy remains consistent, disciplined capital allocation towards high rate of return opportunities.
Speaker #3: I want to thank the group for their hard work getting us to where we are today, and I look forward to building on the strong foundation already in place.
Speaker #3: I want to thank Brian Cree, in particular, for his commitment to ensuring a seamless handoff and for his continued partnership as a senior advisor through this transition.
Speaker #3: Vitesse's primary objective of returning capital to stockholders has not changed. Our board reaffirmed that commitment last week in declaring our second quarter cash dividend at an annualized rate of $1.75 per share.
Speaker #3: Our fundamental strategy remains consistent, disciplined capital allocation towards high rate of return opportunities. This includes organic development of our long-duration asset base, purchases of near-term development opportunities, and accretive acquisitions.
Jamie Benard: This includes organic development of our long duration asset base, purchases of near-term development opportunities and accretive acquisitions. We will continue to maintain a conservative balance sheet and hedge at prices that support our dividend. The Powder River Basin acquisition that closed in early April is a good example of that strategy in action. It is accretive in all key financial metrics and funded with equity to preserve balance sheet flexibility. You should expect more of the same discipline going forward. I'll now turn the call over to Brian Cree to provide more detail on our results and operations.
Jamie Benard: This includes organic development of our long duration asset base, purchases of near-term development opportunities and accretive acquisitions. We will continue to maintain a conservative balance sheet and hedge at prices that support our dividend. The Powder River Basin acquisition that closed in early April is a good example of that strategy in action. It is accretive in all key financial metrics and funded with equity to preserve balance sheet flexibility. You should expect more of the same discipline going forward. I'll now turn the call over to Brian Cree to provide more detail on our results and operations.
Speaker #3: We will continue to maintain a conservative balance sheet and hedge at prices that support our dividend. The Powder River Basin acquisition that closed in early April is a good example of that strategy in action.
Speaker #3: It is accretive in all key financial metrics and funded with equity to preserve balance sheet flexibility. You should expect more of the same discipline going forward.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn the call over to Brian Cree, to provide more detail on our results and operations.
Speaker #2: Good morning, everyone, and thanks, Jamie. I've been fortunate to serve as President of Vitesse over the past 13 years. We've accomplished a great deal together.
Brian Cree: Good morning, everyone, and thanks, Jamie. I've been fortunate to serve as President of the Vitesse over the past 13 years. We've accomplished a great deal together. I'm most proud of the strength of our team and the culture we've built. Jamie, you're in good hands, and I look forward to working alongside you through this transition. Production for Q1 averaged 15,962 BOE per day, up 7% year over year and above our internal expectations. Oil production contributed 89% of total oil and natural gas revenue in the quarter. These results do not yet include any contribution from the Powder River Basin acquisition, which closed in early April.
Brian Cree: Good morning, everyone, and thanks, Jamie. I've been fortunate to serve as President of the Vitesse over the past 13 years. We've accomplished a great deal together. I'm most proud of the strength of our team and the culture we've built. Jamie, you're in good hands, and I look forward to working alongside you through this transition. Production for Q1 averaged 15,962 BOE per day, up 7% year over year and above our internal expectations. Oil production contributed 89% of total oil and natural gas revenue in the quarter. These results do not yet include any contribution from the Powder River Basin acquisition, which closed in early April.
Speaker #2: I'm most proud of the strength of our team and the culture we've built. Jamie, you're in good hands, and I look forward to working alongside you through this transition.
Speaker #2: Production for the first quarter averaged $15,962 barrels of oil equivalent per day, up 7% year over year, and above our internal expectations. Oil production contributed 89% of total oil and natural gas revenue in the quarter.
Speaker #2: These results do not yet include any contribution from the Powder River Basin acquisition, which is anticipated to add an average of 1,400 net barrels of oil equivalent per day over the remainder of 2026, and was closed without issue for 1.9 million shares of Vitesse common stock.
Brian Cree: This acquisition is anticipated to add an average of 1,400 net BOE per day over the remainder of 2026, and was closed without issue for 1.9 million shares of Vitesse common stock. Our underlying asset continues to be developed at a consistent and robust pace. As of 31 March 2026, we had 19.9 net wells in our development pipeline, including 6.2 net wells that we're either drilling or completing, and another 13.7 net locations that had been permitted for development. As we've previously discussed, 3- and 4-mile development continues to increase across the Williston Basin. For Vitesse, 72% of our year to date AFEs have been for these extended laterals, and drilling activity continues to progress further into areas where we hold concentrated acreage positions.
Brian Cree: This acquisition is anticipated to add an average of 1,400 net BOE per day over the remainder of 2026, and was closed without issue for 1.9 million shares of Vitesse common stock. Our underlying asset continues to be developed at a consistent and robust pace. As of 31 March 2026, we had 19.9 net wells in our development pipeline, including 6.2 net wells that we're either drilling or completing, and another 13.7 net locations that had been permitted for development. As we've previously discussed, 3- and 4-mile development continues to increase across the Williston Basin. For Vitesse, 72% of our year to date AFEs have been for these extended laterals, and drilling activity continues to progress further into areas where we hold concentrated acreage positions.
Speaker #2: Our underlying asset continues to be developed at a consistent and robust pace. As of March 31st, 2026, we had 19.9 net wells in our development 13.7 net locations that previously discussed, three and four-mile development continues to increase across the Willison Basin.
Speaker #2: For Vitesse, year-to-date AFEs have been for these extended laterals and drilling activity continues to progress further into areas where we hold concentrated acreage positions.
Speaker #2: As of last week, 67% of the 28 rigs drilling in the Williston were on Vitesse acreage. With the continued hostilities in the Middle East, we have opportunistically layered on additional oil hedges through the end of 2028 at levels supportive to our dividend.
Brian Cree: As of last week, 67% of the 28 rigs drilling in the Williston were on Vitesse acreage. With the continued hostilities in the Middle East, we have opportunistically layered on additional oil hedges through the end of 2028 at levels supportive to our dividend. For the remainder of 2026, we have approximately 73% of our oil production hedged through swaps and collars with a weighted average floor of $64.68 and ceiling of $67.20 per barrel. We have approximately 50% of our 2026 natural gas production hedged through collars with a weighted average floor of $3.73 and ceiling of $4.91 per MMBtu. Both percentages of hedged oil and natural gas volumes are based on the midpoint of our annual guidance. Thank you for your time.
Brian Cree: As of last week, 67% of the 28 rigs drilling in the Williston were on Vitesse acreage. With the continued hostilities in the Middle East, we have opportunistically layered on additional oil hedges through the end of 2028 at levels supportive to our dividend. For the remainder of 2026, we have approximately 73% of our oil production hedged through swaps and collars with a weighted average floor of $64.68 and ceiling of $67.20 per barrel. We have approximately 50% of our 2026 natural gas production hedged through collars with a weighted average floor of $3.73 and ceiling of $4.91 per MMBtu. Both percentages of hedged oil and natural gas volumes are based on the midpoint of our annual guidance. Thank you for your time.
Speaker #2: For the remainder of 2026, we have approximately 73% of our oil production hedged through swaps and collars, with a weighted average floor of $64.68 and ceiling of $67.20 per barrel.
Speaker #2: We have approximately 50% 72% of our of our 2026 natural gas production hedged through collars, with a weighted average floor of $3.73 and ceiling of $4.91 per MMBTU.
Speaker #2: Both percentages of hedged oil and natural gas volumes are based on the midpoint of our annual guidance. Thank you for your time. Now I'll hand the call over to our CFO, Jimmy Henderson.
Brian Cree: Now I'll hand the call over to our CFO, James Henderson.
Brian Cree: Now I'll hand the call over to our CFO, Jimmy Henderson.
Speaker #3: Good morning, everyone. Before I get into the first quarter performance, I want to welcome Jamie to the team. I'm excited about the company's future and look forward to working together.
James Henderson: Good morning, everyone. Before I get into the Q1 performance, I want to welcome Jamie to the team. I am excited about the company's future and look forward to working together. With that, I want to highlight a few items from our financial results for the Q1 of 2026. Please refer to our earnings release and 10-Q, which were filed last night for any further details. As Brian mentioned, production for the quarter was right at 16,000 BOE per day with a 63% oil cut. For the quarter, adjusted EBITDA was $33.4 million, and we had an adjusted net loss of $300,000. GAAP net loss was $42.3 million, driven by a $48.2 million unrealized hedge loss. As a reminder, this loss is due to forward prices as of 31 March and is a non-cash item.
Jimmy Henderson: Good morning, everyone. Before I get into the Q1 performance, I want to welcome Jamie to the team. I am excited about the company's future and look forward to working together. With that, I want to highlight a few items from our financial results for the Q1 of 2026. Please refer to our earnings release and 10-Q, which were filed last night for any further details. As Brian mentioned, production for the quarter was right at 16,000 BOE per day with a 63% oil cut. For the quarter, adjusted EBITDA was $33.4 million, and we had an adjusted net loss of $300,000. GAAP net loss was $42.3 million, driven by a $48.2 million unrealized hedge loss. As a reminder, this loss is due to forward prices as of 31 March and is a non-cash item.
Speaker #3: With that, I want to highlight a few items from our financial results for the first quarter of 2026. Please refer to our earnings release and 10Q, which were filed last night for any further details.
Speaker #3: As Brian mentioned, production for the quarter was right at $16,000 BOE per day. With the 63% oil cut, for the quarter, adjusted EBITDA was 33.4 million, and we had an adjusted net loss of $300,000.
Speaker #3: GAAP net loss was 42.3 million, driven by a 48.2 million unrealized hedge loss. As a reminder, this loss is due to forward prices as of March 31st and is a non-cash item.
Speaker #3: These hedges allow us to lock in the underlying returns as our asset is developed or properties are acquired, which in turn support our dividend and our balance sheet.
James Henderson: These hedges allow us to lock in the underlying returns as our asset is developed or properties are acquired, which in turn support our dividend and our balance sheet. Free cash flow for the quarter was $12 million after $18.7 million of development capital expenditures, net of divestitures. With the Powder River Basin acquisition contributing for the remainder of 2026 and our hedge book now extending through 2028, we remain very well positioned to support our $1.75 annualized dividend. As for the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with total debt of $144.5 million, putting net debt to our trailing twelve-month adjusted EBITDA at just 0.82x. In April, we amended our revolving credit facility, expanding availability by $25 million.
Jimmy Henderson: These hedges allow us to lock in the underlying returns as our asset is developed or properties are acquired, which in turn support our dividend and our balance sheet. Free cash flow for the quarter was $12 million after $18.7 million of development capital expenditures, net of divestitures. With the Powder River Basin acquisition contributing for the remainder of 2026 and our hedge book now extending through 2028, we remain very well positioned to support our $1.75 annualized dividend. As for the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with total debt of $144.5 million, putting net debt to our trailing twelve-month adjusted EBITDA at just 0.82x. In April, we amended our revolving credit facility, expanding availability by $25 million.
Speaker #3: Free cash flow for the quarter was $12 million, after 18.7 million of development capital expenditures net of divestitures. With the Powder River Basin acquisition contributing for the remainder of 2026 and our hedge book now extending through 2028, we remain very well positioned to support our $1.75 annualized dividend.
Speaker #3: As for the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with total debt of $144.5 million, putting net debt to our trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA at just 0.82 times.
Speaker #3: In April, we amended our revolving credit facility expanding availability by 25 million. The elected commitment amount and borrowing base now sit at $275 million, with total liquidity before internal cash flows of roughly $130 million.
James Henderson: The elected commitment amount and borrowing base now sit at $275 million, with total liquidity before internal cash flows of roughly $130 million. Our previously issued guidance has not changed and incorporates the Powder River Basin acquisition, as previously mentioned. We are optimistic that the development pace could increase in the current environment, but at this time, our operators continue to be diligent as we've seen through the industry as a whole. In closing, I want to recognize the team's execution this quarter. Leadership transitions are important moments for any organization, but what ensures continuity is the strength of the people across the business. We are entering this next chapter from a position of strength, fully aligned on strategy and ready to execute. With that, let me now pass the call back to the operator for questions.
Jimmy Henderson: The elected commitment amount and borrowing base now sit at $275 million, with total liquidity before internal cash flows of roughly $130 million. Our previously issued guidance has not changed and incorporates the Powder River Basin acquisition, as previously mentioned. We are optimistic that the development pace could increase in the current environment, but at this time, our operators continue to be diligent as we've seen through the industry as a whole. In closing, I want to recognize the team's execution this quarter. Leadership transitions are important moments for any organization, but what ensures continuity is the strength of the people across the business. We are entering this next chapter from a position of strength, fully aligned on strategy and ready to execute. With that, let me now pass the call back to the operator for questions.
Speaker #3: Our previously issued guidance has not changed, and incorporates the Powder River Basin acquisition as previously mentioned. We are optimistic that the development pace could increase on our current in the current environment, but at this time, our operators continue to be diligent as we've seen through the industry as a whole.
Speaker #3: In closing, I want to recognize the team's execution this quarter. Leadership transitions are important moments for any organization. But what ensures continuity is the strength of the people across the business.
Speaker #3: We are entering this next chapter from a position of strength, fully aligned on strategy and ready to execute. With that, let me now pass the call back to the operator for questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad.
Operator 2: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your questions from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handsets before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. The first question comes from the line of Jeff Grampp with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your questions from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handsets before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. The first question comes from the line of Jeff Grampp with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #1: For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handsets, before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions.
Speaker #1: The first question comes from the line of Jeff Gramp, with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Jeff Grampp: Good morning, everyone.
Jeff Grampp: Good morning, everyone.
Speaker #2: Morning, everyone.
James Henderson: Hey, Jeff.
Jimmy Henderson: Hey, Jeff.
Speaker #4: Hey, Jeff.
Jeff Grampp: Hey. Jamie, curious for you with this being your first earnings call, and welcome and congrats, if you could just lay out, you know, at a high level, you know, kind of what's your vision for Vitesse over the coming years and maybe what attracted you to the company and what you perhaps see as the main opportunities you're planning on spending time on as you kinda get up to speed and hit the ground running here with the company? Thanks.
Jeff Grampp: Hey. Jamie, curious for you with this being your first earnings call, and welcome and congrats, if you could just lay out, you know, at a high level, you know, kind of what's your vision for Vitesse over the coming years and maybe what attracted you to the company and what you perhaps see as the main opportunities you're planning on spending time on as you kinda get up to speed and hit the ground running here with the company? Thanks.
Speaker #2: Hey.
Speaker #4: Jamie, curious for you with this being your first earnings call and welcome and congrats. If you could just lay out, at a high level, kind of what's your vision for Vitesse over the coming years, and maybe what attracted you to the company and what you perhaps see as the main opportunities you're planning on spending time on as you kind of get up to speed and hit the ground running here with the company.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Sure. Thanks for the question. Well, what drew me to Vitesse truly, it's alignment. Alignment between my experience, my philosophy in the company strategy. I've spent most of my career across both operated and non-operated models and most recently with a very heavy focus in the Williston Basin.
Jamie Benard: Sure. Thanks for the question. Well, what drew me to Vitesse is it truly its alignment. Alignment between my experience, my philosophy, and the company's strategy. I've spent most of my career across both operated and non-operated models and most recently with a very heavy focus in the Williston Basin. I understand where value is created and where it's lost. That shaped a very disciplined approach to capital allocation. You know, Vitesse already embodies that discipline. Strong returns, conservative balance sheet, clear commitment to returning capital to stockholders. That's a model I believe in. This isn't about coming in to change direction. It's about leaning into a strategy that works and helping scale it very thoughtfully.
Jamie Benard: Sure. Thanks for the question. Well, what drew me to Vitesse is it truly its alignment. Alignment between my experience, my philosophy, and the company's strategy. I've spent most of my career across both operated and non-operated models and most recently with a very heavy focus in the Williston Basin. I understand where value is created and where it's lost. That shaped a very disciplined approach to capital allocation. You know, Vitesse already embodies that discipline. Strong returns, conservative balance sheet, clear commitment to returning capital to stockholders. That's a model I believe in. This isn't about coming in to change direction. It's about leaning into a strategy that works and helping scale it very thoughtfully.
Speaker #2: So I understand where value's created and where it's lost. That shaped a very disciplined approach to capital allocation and Vitesse already embodies that discipline, strong returns, conservative balance sheet.
Speaker #2: Clear commitment to returning capital to stockholders. That's a model I believe in. So this isn't about coming in to change direction. It's about leaning into a strategy that works and helping scale it very thoughtfully.
Speaker #4: Great. I appreciate that. And for my follow-up, this is the market share, if you will. Your percentage of rigs in the back end seems to be maintained at a super high clip.
Jeff Grampp: Great. I appreciate that. For my follow-up, this is the market share, if you will. Your percentage of rigs in the Bakken seems to be maintained at a super high clip. I think you guys had typically talked about being in kind of that 30% to 50% range, and I think this is the Q2 above 60%. Is this just kind of it'll ebb and flow? Do you guys see this as maybe something more fundamental changing in terms of operators focusing more on Vitesse acreage? Just wondering if there's anything to read there.
Jeff Grampp: Great. I appreciate that. For my follow-up, this is the market share, if you will. Your percentage of rigs in the Bakken seems to be maintained at a super high clip. I think you guys had typically talked about being in kind of that 30% to 50% range, and I think this is the Q2 above 60%. Is this just kind of it'll ebb and flow? Do you guys see this as maybe something more fundamental changing in terms of operators focusing more on Vitesse acreage? Just wondering if there's anything to read there.
Speaker #4: I think you guys did typically talked about being in kind of that 30 to 50 percent range and I think this is the second quarter above 60%.
Speaker #4: Is this just kind of at 11 flow? Do you guys see this as maybe something more fundamental changing in terms of operators focusing more on Vitesse acreage?
Speaker #4: Just wondering if there's anything to read there.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Jeff. This is Brian. I'll try to handle that one. Look, as we've talked about in the past, a lot of the development that's going on in the Williston right now is really focusing on the Three Mile and Four Mile development and where those development areas seem to be trending toward.
Brian Cree: Yeah. Jeff, this is Brian. I'll try to handle that one. Look, as we've talked about in the past, a lot of the development that's going on in the Williston right now is really focusing on the three-mile and four-mile development. Where those development areas seem to be trending toward is just areas of the field where Vitesse has a larger acreage position. I think that's what we're seeing. Obviously, it can always ebb and flow. It always will. This is a very high level for us at this point in time. It is consistent with kind of what we've been seeing, which is that three- and four-mile development being in areas where Vitesse has a lot of acreage.
Brian Cree: Yeah. Jeff, this is Brian. I'll try to handle that one. Look, as we've talked about in the past, a lot of the development that's going on in the Williston right now is really focusing on the three-mile and four-mile development. Where those development areas seem to be trending toward is just areas of the field where Vitesse has a larger acreage position. I think that's what we're seeing. Obviously, it can always ebb and flow. It always will. This is a very high level for us at this point in time. It is consistent with kind of what we've been seeing, which is that three- and four-mile development being in areas where Vitesse has a lot of acreage.
Speaker #2: It's just areas of the field where Vitesse has a larger acreage position. So I think that's what we're seeing. Obviously, it can always ebb and flow.
Speaker #2: It always will. This is a very high level for us at this point in time. But it is consistent with kind of what we've been seeing, which is that three and four mile development being in areas where Vitesse has a lot of acreage.
Speaker #4: Understood. I appreciate the details, Brian. I'll turn it back.
Jeff Grampp: Understood. I appreciate the details, Brian. I'll turn it back.
Jeff Grampp: Understood. I appreciate the details, Brian. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #2: Thanks.
Brian Cree: Thanks.
Brian Cree: Thanks.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Chris Baker with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Chris Baker with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Chris Baker with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Hey, good morning, guys.
Chris Baker: Hey, good morning, guys.
Chris Baker: Hey, good morning, guys.
Speaker #4: Good morning.
James Henderson: Good morning.
Jimmy Henderson: Good morning.
Brian Cree: Hi, Chris.
Brian Cree: Hi, Chris.
Speaker #5: Hi, Chris.
Chris Baker: You know, I just wanted to start off maybe, you know, on a similar note, just in terms of the, you know, significant exposure you all have to rigs in the Bakken. Could you maybe just talk about what you guys have seen over the past, you know, quarter or two in terms of AFEs? You kinda touched on this earlier in terms of, you know, with higher prices at some point likely to see an acceleration in activity.
Speaker #3: So I just want to start off maybe on a similar note, just in terms of the significant exposure you all have to rigs in the back end.
Chris Baker: You know, I just wanted to start off maybe, you know, on a similar note, just in terms of the, you know, significant exposure you all have to rigs in the Bakken. Could you maybe just talk about what you guys have seen over the past, you know, quarter or two in terms of AFEs? You kinda touched on this earlier in terms of, you know, with higher prices at some point likely to see an acceleration in activity.
Speaker #3: Could you maybe just talk about what you guys have seen over the past quarter or two in terms of AFEs? And then you kind of touched on this earlier in terms of with higher prices, at some point, likely to see an acceleration in activity.
Speaker #3: Just kind of curious, as you guys think about service costs or the potential for service cost inflation in the back half of the year, sort of how you think that could maybe come together and what sort of a reasonable outlook in terms of activity and what that could mean for service costs.
Chris Baker: Just kinda curious, you know, as you guys think about service costs or the potential for service cost inflation in H2 of the year, sort of how you think that could maybe come together and what sort of a reasonable outlook in terms of, you know, activity and what that could mean for service costs?
Chris Baker: Just kinda curious, you know, as you guys think about service costs or the potential for service cost inflation in H2 of the year, sort of how you think that could maybe come together and what sort of a reasonable outlook in terms of, you know, activity and what that could mean for service costs?
Speaker #5: So, Chris, this is Brian. I'll start with that. As I mentioned over the last few quarters, a lot of our development activity has been focused on the extended laterals, and what we have seen over that last probably six-month period is that the operators are becoming much better.
Brian Cree: Chris, this is Brian. I'll start with that. You know, as I mentioned, over the last few quarters, a lot of our development activity has been focused on the extended laterals. What we have seen over that last probably six-month period is that the operators are becoming, you know, much better, just as they have all along, at bringing drilling costs down. The three- and four-mile CapEx we are seeing has continued to decline, especially in the last three months period of time. The operators are just getting really, really good and efficient at drilling three- and four-mile laterals. What that means for costs on a go-forward basis, obviously, with oil prices where they are, it's something we're gonna continue to watch.
Brian Cree: Chris, this is Brian. I'll start with that. You know, as I mentioned, over the last few quarters, a lot of our development activity has been focused on the extended laterals. What we have seen over that last probably six-month period is that the operators are becoming, you know, much better, just as they have all along, at bringing drilling costs down. The three- and four-mile CapEx we are seeing has continued to decline, especially in the last three months period of time. The operators are just getting really, really good and efficient at drilling three- and four-mile laterals. What that means for costs on a go-forward basis, obviously, with oil prices where they are, it's something we're gonna continue to watch.
Speaker #5: Just as they have all along, at bringing drilling costs down. So the three- and four-mile CapEx that we are seeing has continued to decline, especially in the last three months' period of time.
Speaker #5: The operators are just getting really good and efficient at drilling three and four mile laterals. Now, what that means for costs on a go-forward basis, obviously, with oil prices where they are, it's something we're going to continue to watch.
Brian Cree: It's gonna really be a combination of what those operators do from a rig count standpoint. We have not really seen a lot of increased activity at this point in time. Our operators seem to be very disciplined about their approach to adding rigs. Clearly in the field right now, there is a higher level of activity on workover rigs, maybe some increased frack crews. It does appear that our operators are looking to try to bring back production as quickly as they can. Wells that may have been offline, they're trying to get them back online. That being said, we have not seen an increase in the amount of rigs drilling.
Speaker #5: And it's going to really be a combination of what those operators do from a rig count standpoint. We have not really seen a lot of increased activity at this point in time.
Brian Cree: It's gonna really be a combination of what those operators do from a rig count standpoint. We have not really seen a lot of increased activity at this point in time. Our operators seem to be very disciplined about their approach to adding rigs. Clearly in the field right now, there is a higher level of activity on workover rigs, maybe some increased frack crews. It does appear that our operators are looking to try to bring back production as quickly as they can. Wells that may have been offline, they're trying to get them back online. That being said, we have not seen an increase in the amount of rigs drilling.
Speaker #5: Our operators seem to be very disciplined about their approach to adding rigs. Clearly in the field right now, there is a higher level of activity on workover rigs.
Speaker #5: Maybe some increased frack crews. So it does appear that our operators are looking to try to bring back production as quickly as they can wells that may have been offline.
Speaker #5: They're trying to get them back online. But that being said, we have not seen an increase in the amount of rigs drilling we've heard some comments that maybe there's a couple more rigs to be added in the next quarter.
Brian Cree: We've heard some comments that maybe there's a couple more rigs to be added in the next quarter, but we just haven't seen that big increase. Certainly there's gonna be some costs that go up as a result of just what's been going on, fuel costs, whatnot. In terms of where the larger costs of drilling and completion will occur is if the activity levels go up substantially.
Brian Cree: We've heard some comments that maybe there's a couple more rigs to be added in the next quarter, but we just haven't seen that big increase. Certainly there's gonna be some costs that go up as a result of just what's been going on, fuel costs, whatnot. In terms of where the larger costs of drilling and completion will occur is if the activity levels go up substantially.
Speaker #5: But we just haven't seen that big increase. And so, certainly, there's going to be some costs that go up as a result of just whatnot.
Speaker #5: But in terms of where the larger costs of drilling and completion will occur is if the activity levels go up substantially.
Chris Baker: That's great. Thanks. For the follow-up, I just, you know, obviously the dividend is pretty central for you all. I think, the team obviously has evolved, but did a good job last quarter of, I guess, resetting the outlook and really kind of reflecting, I think what was a much different macro outlook at the start of the year. Since then, you know, we've seen prices come up quite a bit. Again, you know, to think that we're talking about incremental activity is certainly a big shift in the outlook.
Chris Baker: That's great. Thanks. For the follow-up, I just, you know, obviously the dividend is pretty central for you all. I think, the team obviously has evolved, but did a good job last quarter of, I guess, resetting the outlook and really kind of reflecting, I think what was a much different macro outlook at the start of the year. Since then, you know, we've seen prices come up quite a bit. Again, you know, to think that we're talking about incremental activity is certainly a big shift in the outlook.
Speaker #2: That's great. Thanks.
Speaker #3: So the follow-up, obviously, the dividend is pretty central for you all. I think the team obviously has evolved. But doing a good job last quarter of, I guess, resetting the outlook and really kind of reflecting, I think, what was a much different macro outlook at the start of the year.
Speaker #3: Since then, we've seen prices come up quite a bit. Again, to think that we're talking about incremental activity is certainly a big shift in the outlook.
Chris Baker: Just curious, as you guys think about the hedge program, you know, opportunities for further sort of accretive M&A, like the PRB deal, and, you know, and the dividend, just to kind of maybe wrap it all into, I think, some interrelated, you know, an interrelated topic. You know, does the change in the macro outlook influence how you think about hedging going forward? You know, obviously provides, you know, a good amount of downside protection. But, you know, much different outlook in terms of, at least from our perspective, the opportunity to see a higher for longer type environment start to establish itself.
Speaker #3: Just curious, as you guys think about the hedge program, opportunities for further sort of accretive M&A like the PRV deal, and the dividend—just to kind of maybe wrap it all into, I think, some interrelated topic.
Chris Baker: Just curious, as you guys think about the hedge program, you know, opportunities for further sort of accretive M&A, like the PRB deal, and, you know, and the dividend, just to kind of maybe wrap it all into, I think, some interrelated, you know, an interrelated topic. You know, does the change in the macro outlook influence how you think about hedging going forward? You know, obviously provides, you know, a good amount of downside protection. But, you know, much different outlook in terms of, at least from our perspective, the opportunity to see a higher for longer type environment start to establish itself.
Speaker #3: Does the change in the macro outlook influence how you think about hedging going forward? Obviously, it provides a good amount of downside protection, but much different outlook in terms of, at least from our perspective.
Speaker #3: The opportunity to see a higher for longer type environment start to establish itself.
James Henderson: Yeah, Chris, this is Jimmy. I'll take a stab at that. There's a handful of questions embedded in that that are all very germane to our strategy and what we think about on a daily basis. I think starting off with, you know, a core tenet of ours is the dividend, and we believe it's set at a level now that we're very comfortable with. We don't wanna be super reactive to short-term volatility and near-term commodity prices. We want to be very careful about setting that level, and we've always maintained that as a fixed dividend that we don't want to be moving up and down. We'll continue to have that discussion quarter by quarter with our board.
Speaker #5: Hi, Chris. This is Jimmy. I'll take a stab at that. There are a handful of questions embedded in that that are all very germane to our strategy and what we think about on a daily basis.
Jimmy Henderson: Yeah, Chris, this is Jimmy. I'll take a stab at that. There's a handful of questions embedded in that that are all very germane to our strategy and what we think about on a daily basis. I think starting off with, you know, a core tenet of ours is the dividend, and we believe it's set at a level now that we're very comfortable with. We don't wanna be super reactive to short-term volatility and near-term commodity prices. We want to be very careful about setting that level, and we've always maintained that as a fixed dividend that we don't want to be moving up and down. We'll continue to have that discussion quarter by quarter with our board.
Speaker #5: I think starting off with a core tenet of ours is the dividend. And we believe it's set at a level now that we're very comfortable with.
Speaker #5: We don't want to be super reactive to short-term volatility and near-term commodity prices. So we want to be very careful about setting that level.
Speaker #5: And we've always maintained that as a fixed dividend, that we don't want to be moving up and down. So we'll continue to have that discussion quarter by quarter with our Board.
James Henderson: Obviously, with our hedging position and our activity level coming into this year, it's set at a level that's supported by where we're at on both of those things. We'll continue to evaluate it as we go through the year and into next year. Definitely, it all really comes back to sort of how you laid out capital allocation. We want to continue to invest in the company and do creative transactions that create value for our shareholders for the long term. We want to be able to have enough dry powder to invest in acquisitions, continue to fund drilling on our acreage. It's a very high return proposition, so we want to continue to do that. Really it's the same as it's always been.
Speaker #5: Obviously, with our hedging position and our activity level coming into this year, it's set at a level that's supported by where we're at on both of those things.
Jimmy Henderson: Obviously, with our hedging position and our activity level coming into this year, it's set at a level that's supported by where we're at on both of those things. We'll continue to evaluate it as we go through the year and into next year. Definitely, it all really comes back to sort of how you laid out capital allocation. We want to continue to invest in the company and do creative transactions that create value for our shareholders for the long term. We want to be able to have enough dry powder to invest in acquisitions, continue to fund drilling on our acreage. It's a very high return proposition, so we want to continue to do that. Really it's the same as it's always been.
Speaker #5: So we'll continue to evaluate it as we go through the year and into next year. Definitely, it's all really comes back to sort of how you laid out capital allocation.
Speaker #5: We want to continue to invest in the company and do accretive transactions that create value for our shareholders for the long term. So we want to be able to have enough dry powder to invest in acquisitions and continue to fund drilling on our acreage is a very high-return proposition.
Speaker #5: So we want to continue to do that. So really, it's the same as it's always been. The strategy of capital allocation is what we're all about.
James Henderson: It's the strategy of capital allocation is what we're all about, and we want to be able to do all those things in a, in a measured way.
Jimmy Henderson: It's the strategy of capital allocation is what we're all about, and we want to be able to do all those things in a, in a measured way.
Speaker #5: And we want to be able to do all those things in a measured way.
Speaker #2: Great. Thanks. So it sounds like if I'm hearing correctly, sort of no change to how you're thinking about hedging from here?
Chris Baker: Great. Thanks. It sounds like, if I'm hearing correctly, sort of no change to how you're thinking about hedging from here?
Chris Baker: Great. Thanks. It sounds like, if I'm hearing correctly, sort of no change to how you're thinking about hedging from here?
Speaker #5: Well, we've been very opportunistic about putting hedges on. As you can see, in our press release last night, we've just very methodically added hedges ever since conflict in Iran started.
James Henderson: Well, we've been very opportunistic about putting hedges on. As you can see in our in our press release last night, we've just very methodically added hedges every since conflict in Iran started. Try to maintain enough dry powder to keep adding to our position in a way that's supportive of our dividend and gives us the ability to add more as we go. It's very opportunistic, but very methodical at the same time.
Jimmy Henderson: Well, we've been very opportunistic about putting hedges on. As you can see in our in our press release last night, we've just very methodically added hedges every since conflict in Iran started. Try to maintain enough dry powder to keep adding to our position in a way that's supportive of our dividend and gives us the ability to add more as we go. It's very opportunistic, but very methodical at the same time.
Speaker #5: Try to maintain enough dry powder to keep adding to our position in a way that's supportive of our dividend. And it gives us ability to add more as we go.
Speaker #5: It's very opportunistic, but very methodical at the same time.
Speaker #2: Great. Thank you.
Chris Baker: Great. Thank you.
Chris Baker: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Next question comes on the line of Paul Fratt with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. Next question comes on the line of Paul Fratt with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Next question comes on the line of Poe Fratt with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Yeah, good morning. Hey, Jamie. I'm not that familiar with your background, but could you highlight any notable experience that you have on the acquisition front?
Paul Fratt: Yeah. Good morning. Hey, Jamie. I'm not that familiar with your background, but could you highlight sort of any notable, you know, experience that you have on the acquisition front? Also highlight where you have experience outside the Bakken as far as maybe that, you know, there might be some future, you know, direction in that way? If you could just sort of highlight, you know, you talked pretty broadly about adding value, but can you be a little more specific on which prong of the strategy you think you can make the most impact on near term?
Poe Fratt: Yeah. Good morning. Hey, Jamie. I'm not that familiar with your background, but could you highlight sort of any notable, you know, experience that you have on the acquisition front? Also highlight where you have experience outside the Bakken as far as maybe that, you know, there might be some future, you know, direction in that way? If you could just sort of highlight, you know, you talked pretty broadly about adding value, but can you be a little more specific on which prong of the strategy you think you can make the most impact on near term?
Speaker #4: And then also, highlight where you have experience outside the Bakken as far as maybe that there might be some future direction in that way?
Speaker #4: And then if you could just sort of highlight you talked pretty broadly about adding value. But can you be a little more specific on which prong of the strategy you think you can make the most impact on near term?
Speaker #5: Sure. Happy to address it. So on the M&A front, going back over the past 10, 15 years, I'd say it's north of $3 billion between the Permian base and the Marcellus.
Jamie Benard: Sure. Happy to address it. On the M&A front, you know, going back over the past 10, 15 years, I'd say it's north of $3 billion between the Permian Basin, the Marcellus, the Eagle Ford, both in the operated and the non-operated positions, where I've been focused. Of late, the last 2 years, I've been leading an operated organization in primarily in the Williston Basin as well as the Permian Basin. As far as avenues to create value, to be more specific, like we said, this isn't a change in direction.
Jamie Benard: Sure. Happy to address it. On the M&A front, you know, going back over the past 10, 15 years, I'd say it's north of $3 billion between the Permian Basin, the Marcellus, the Eagle Ford, both in the operated and the non-operated positions, where I've been focused. Of late, the last 2 years, I've been leading an operated organization in primarily in the Williston Basin as well as the Permian Basin. As far as avenues to create value, to be more specific, like we said, this isn't a change in direction.
Speaker #5: The Eagle Ford, both in the operated and the non-operated positions. It was where I've been focused. And then of late, the last two years, I've been leading an operated organization in primarily in the Williston Basin as well as the Permian Basin.
Speaker #5: So as far as avenues to create value, to be more specific, like we said, this isn't a change in direction. This is methodically adding value consistent with the existing strategy.
Jamie Benard: This is, you know, methodically, adding value with consistent with the existing strategy and, you know, with the experience in the Williston Basin and other basins as well. You know, we're gonna continue to look at all opportunities, and, you know, start to hone in on what fits us best. It's more about, quality, as opposed to quantity as far as opportunities come.
Jamie Benard: This is, you know, methodically, adding value with consistent with the existing strategy and, you know, with the experience in the Williston Basin and other basins as well. You know, we're gonna continue to look at all opportunities, and, you know, start to hone in on what fits us best. It's more about, quality, as opposed to quantity as far as opportunities come.
Speaker #5: And with the experience in the Williston Basin, and other basins as well, we're going to continue to look at all opportunities and start to hone in on what fits us best.
Speaker #5: And it's more about quality as opposed to quantity as far as opportunities come.
Speaker #2: And then reading between the lines, so if AFB's continued at the same pace and you don't see a pickup, operators or other operators are sort of taking more of a wait-and-see attitude, how well positioned is the organization right now to move into the operated arena?
Paul Fratt: Then reading between the lines, you know, so if AFEs, you know, continued at the same pace and you don't see a pickup, operators or other operators are sort of, you know, taking more of a wait and see attitude, how well-positioned is the organization right now to move into the operated arena? You know, how many locations do you have ready if you were to make that pivot?
Poe Fratt: Then reading between the lines, you know, so if AFEs, you know, continued at the same pace and you don't see a pickup, operators or other operators are sort of, you know, taking more of a wait and see attitude, how well-positioned is the organization right now to move into the operated arena? You know, how many locations do you have ready if you were to make that pivot?
Speaker #2: How many locations do you have ready if you were to make that pivot?
Speaker #5: Sure. We're in the middle of a comprehensive planning process for the reasons you just mentioned, with permitting and four locations right now that we're contemplating.
Jamie Benard: Sure. We're in the middle of a comprehensive planning process for the reasons you just mentioned, you know, with permitting and it's 4 locations right now that we're contemplating. That said, we're not gonna mobilize anything until we've done, you know, the size of our inventory. We're gonna measure twice and cut once. As always, you know, it comes down to capital discipline and how those opportunities compete against other activity throughout the portfolio. You know, it's nice to have that, you know, feather in our cap, but it's still gonna be competing against other activity.
Jamie Benard: Sure. We're in the middle of a comprehensive planning process for the reasons you just mentioned, you know, with permitting and it's 4 locations right now that we're contemplating. That said, we're not gonna mobilize anything until we've done, you know, the size of our inventory. We're gonna measure twice and cut once. As always, you know, it comes down to capital discipline and how those opportunities compete against other activity throughout the portfolio. You know, it's nice to have that, you know, feather in our cap, but it's still gonna be competing against other activity.
Speaker #5: That said, we're not going to mobilize anything until we've done a very the size of our inventory, we're going to measure twice and cut once.
Speaker #5: But as always, it comes down to capital discipline and how those opportunities compete against other activity throughout the portfolio. So it's nice to have that feather in our cap.
Speaker #5: But it's still going to be competing against other activity.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Paul, this is Brian. Let me just add to that is obviously, one of the great things about the Lucero acquisition is it gave us that operated asset.
Brian Cree: Paul, this is Brian. Let me just add to that is obviously, one of the great things about the Lucero Energy Corp acquisition is it gave us that operated asset. It gave us that flexibility to allocate capital to either our operated properties or our non-operated properties. You know, our guidance for this year, the $50 to 80 million of CapEx did not assume any operated development. With oil prices in the 60s at the time that we set that budget and that guidance, it didn't really make sense to us to spend our capital on those operated development opportunities, and we wanted to hold those in our inventory.
Brian Cree: Paul, this is Brian. Let me just add to that is obviously, one of the great things about the Lucero Energy Corp acquisition is it gave us that operated asset. It gave us that flexibility to allocate capital to either our operated properties or our non-operated properties. You know, our guidance for this year, the $50 to 80 million of CapEx did not assume any operated development. With oil prices in the 60s at the time that we set that budget and that guidance, it didn't really make sense to us to spend our capital on those operated development opportunities, and we wanted to hold those in our inventory.
Speaker #2: It gave us that flexibility to allocate capital to either our operated properties or our non-operated properties. And our guidance for this year—the $50 to $80 million of CapEx—did not assume any operated development.
Speaker #2: So with oil prices in the 60s at the time that we set that budget and that guidance, it didn't really make sense to us to spend our capital on those operated development opportunities.
Speaker #2: And we wanted to hold those in our inventory. Obviously, now with the change in prices, it's something that, as Jamie said, we are planning for.
Brian Cree: Obviously, now with the change in prices, it's something that, as Jamie said, we are planning for, we are looking at, we are preparing to be able to take advantage of the higher prices. Again, we're gonna remain disciplined. We're gonna look at everything that goes on over the next few months and analyze what other opportunities come before us. It's, you know, it's great to have that asset available for us to develop at the right time. You know, the right time can be when we don't have as much CapEx coming in other areas, or it can be when the rates of return are really high. Clearly, the rates of return on these properties are very strong.
Brian Cree: Obviously, now with the change in prices, it's something that, as Jamie said, we are planning for, we are looking at, we are preparing to be able to take advantage of the higher prices. Again, we're gonna remain disciplined. We're gonna look at everything that goes on over the next few months and analyze what other opportunities come before us. It's, you know, it's great to have that asset available for us to develop at the right time. You know, the right time can be when we don't have as much CapEx coming in other areas, or it can be when the rates of return are really high. Clearly, the rates of return on these properties are very strong.
Speaker #2: We are looking at. We are preparing to be able to take advantage of the higher prices. But again, we're going to remain disciplined. We're going to look at everything that goes on over the next few months and analyze what other opportunities come before us.
Speaker #2: It's great to have it's great to have that asset available for us to develop at the right time. The right time can be when we don't have as much CapEx coming in in other areas.
Speaker #2: Or it can be when the rates of return are really high. And clearly, the rates of return on these properties are very strong. But we'll continue to evaluate what other operators bring our way and what we see in AFEs.
Brian Cree: We'll continue to evaluate what other operators bring our way and what we see in AFEs and then make that decision as the year goes.
Brian Cree: We'll continue to evaluate what other operators bring our way and what we see in AFEs and then make that decision as the year goes.
Speaker #2: And then make that decision as the year goes.
Speaker #4: Great. It sounds like, Brian, though, it's more of a 27 event from an impact to the production profile.
Paul Fratt: Great. It sounds like, Brian, though, it's more the 2027 event from an impact to, you know, production profile.
Poe Fratt: Great. It sounds like, Brian, though, it's more the 2027 event from an impact to, you know, production profile.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think if, Paul, if we drill these wells, it would likely be sometime in the fall. So by the time you drill and complete those, get those online, it's much more impactful to 2027 than it would be to 2026.
Brian Cree: Yeah. I think if, Paul, if we drill these wells, it would likely be sometime in the fall. By the time you drill and complete those to get those online, it's much more impactful to 2027 than it would be to 2026.
Brian Cree: Yeah. I think if, Poe, if we drill these wells, it would likely be sometime in the fall. By the time you drill and complete those to get those online, it's much more impactful to 2027 than it would be to 2026.
Speaker #4: Great. That's helpful. And then if you could just address looking outside the basin obviously, the powder ribbon river acquisition is an example of that.
Paul Fratt: Great. That's helpful. Then if you could just address looking outside the basin, you know, obviously, the Powder River acquisition is, you know, is an example of that. If you could look at more broadly, where else are you looking? I heard that Jamie's mentioned the Marcellus, my sense is you wouldn't go into the Marcellus, maybe correct me if I'm wrong there.
Poe Fratt: Great. That's helpful. Then if you could just address looking outside the basin, you know, obviously, the Powder River acquisition is, you know, is an example of that. If you could look at more broadly, where else are you looking? I heard that Jamie's mentioned the Marcellus, my sense is you wouldn't go into the Marcellus, maybe correct me if I'm wrong there.
Speaker #4: But if you could look at more broadly, where else are you looking? I heard that Jamie mentioned the Marcellus. And my sense is you wouldn't go into the Marcellus.
Speaker #4: But maybe correct me if I'm wrong there.
Speaker #2: No, I think you have a pretty good understanding of that. We have looked at a lot more gas assets over the last year, year and a half than we had previously.
Brian Cree: No, I think, you know, I think you have a pretty good understanding of that. We have looked at a lot more gas assets over the last year and a half than we had previously. Clearly for us, you know, there's a great pipeline of acquisition opportunities. What I think is most prevalent for us at this point in time is that several of the opportunities we're looking at are right in our core asset area, and that's a little different. You know, we've always looked at all kinds of different basins, whether it be oil or gas.
Brian Cree: No, I think, you know, I think you have a pretty good understanding of that. We have looked at a lot more gas assets over the last year and a half than we had previously. Clearly for us, you know, there's a great pipeline of acquisition opportunities. What I think is most prevalent for us at this point in time is that several of the opportunities we're looking at are right in our core asset area, and that's a little different. You know, we've always looked at all kinds of different basins, whether it be oil or gas.
Speaker #2: But clearly, for us, there's a great pipeline of acquisition opportunities. What I think is most prevalent for us at this point in time is that several of the opportunities we're looking at are right in our core asset area.
Speaker #2: And that's a little different. We've always looked at all kinds of different basins, whether it be oil or gas. But right now, we're seeing a lot of good opportunities both in the Williston and the DJ where we have the majority of our production and assets.
Brian Cree: Right now, we're seeing a lot of good opportunities both in the Williston and in the DJ, where we have, you know, the majority of our, of our production and assets and, you know, a couple in the Powder also where we just completed one. It's kinda cool that we have the opportunity to look at things that are right in our backyard. We will continue to look at other basins, and I think Jamie's experience coming in those other basins and, is something that we'll continue to try to leverage on.
Brian Cree: Right now, we're seeing a lot of good opportunities both in the Williston and in the DJ, where we have, you know, the majority of our, of our production and assets and, you know, a couple in the Powder also where we just completed one. It's kinda cool that we have the opportunity to look at things that are right in our backyard. We will continue to look at other basins, and I think Jamie's experience coming in those other basins and, is something that we'll continue to try to leverage on.
Speaker #2: And a couple in the Powder also, where we just completed one. So it's kind of cool that we have the opportunity to look at things that are right in our backyard.
Speaker #2: But we will continue to look at other basins. And I think Jamie's experience coming in in those other basins and is something that we'll continue to try to leverage on.
Speaker #4: Great. Very helpful. Thanks.
Paul Fratt: Great. Very helpful. Thanks.
Poe Fratt: Great. Very helpful. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Next question comes on the line of Noel Fox with TUI Brothers. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Noel Parks with Tuohy Brothers. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Noel Parks with Tuohy Brothers. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hi. Good morning.
Noel Parks: Hi, good morning.
Noel Parks: Hi, good morning.
James Henderson: Hey, Noel.
Jimmy Henderson: Hey, Noel.
Speaker #6: Hey, Noel.
Noel Parks: I was just wondering if you'd mentioned a moment ago that there was, you're seeing a higher level of activity in workover rigs. Is there anything available that you consider where I'm thinking of the Williston, for example, where the main value would really consist mostly of refracs. I'm just wondering if you, if anybody has put things on the market like that. If so, you know, how you might approach valuing something like that.
Speaker #7: I was just wondering if you mentioned a moment ago that there was you're seeing a higher level of activity in work over rigs. And is there anything available that you consider where the I'm thinking in the Williston, for example, where the main value would really consist mostly of reef racks?
Noel Parks: I was just wondering if you'd mentioned a moment ago that there was, you're seeing a higher level of activity in workover rigs. Is there anything available that you consider where I'm thinking of the Williston, for example, where the main value would really consist mostly of refracs. I'm just wondering if you, if anybody has put things on the market like that. If so, you know, how you might approach valuing something like that.
Speaker #7: I'm just wondering if you if anybody has put things on the market like that. And if so, how you might approach valuing something like that.
Speaker #5: Well, clearly, reef racks is something that we have always been high on and believe will be a needle mover in the Williston basin over time.
Brian Cree: Well, clearly, refracs is something that we have always been high on and believe will be a needle mover in the Williston Basin over time. It's interesting, you know, when prices are lower, like they were in the sixties, you don't have as many companies completing wells. Right now, a lot of the refrac opportunities have been kind of in connection with additional development to where, you know, you go into a DSU that's got 1 or 2 wells that were drilled back in 2014 and 2015, and now there's, you know, 4 or 5, 6 additional wells being drilled. A lot of times what we've seen is the operators are refracing those wells. I think that will continue.
Brian Cree: Well, clearly, refracs is something that we have always been high on and believe will be a needle mover in the Williston Basin over time. It's interesting, you know, when prices are lower, like they were in the sixties, you don't have as many companies completing wells. Right now, a lot of the refrac opportunities have been kind of in connection with additional development to where, you know, you go into a DSU that's got 1 or 2 wells that were drilled back in 2014 and 2015, and now there's, you know, 4 or 5, 6 additional wells being drilled. A lot of times what we've seen is the operators are refracing those wells. I think that will continue.
Speaker #5: It's interesting. When prices are lower, like they were in the 60s, you don't have as many companies completing wells and right now, a lot of the reef rack opportunities have been kind of in connection with additional development to where you go into a DSU that's got one or two wells that were drilled back in 2014 and '15.
Speaker #5: And now there's four, five, six additional wells being drilled. A lot of times, what we've seen is the operators are reef racking those wells I think that will continue.
Brian Cree: We have not seen an uptick in refracs at this point in time like we have seen in the workover category. I think I heard the NDIC say the other day that they've seen about a 20% increase in workover rigs going on. I just think that that is the quickest way to get production online, you know, to take advantage of the current prices. I think the Look, the industry is just trying to figure out what's gonna happen in Iran, where those prices are gonna be in three to six months. Again, the workover activity is the quickest way along with just getting fracs done on any wells that have been drilled that were kinda ducks.
Speaker #5: We have not seen an uptick in reef racks at this point in time, like we have seen in the workover category. I think I heard the NDIC say the other day that they've seen about a 20% increase in workover rigs going on.
Brian Cree: We have not seen an uptick in refracs at this point in time like we have seen in the workover category. I think I heard the NDIC say the other day that they've seen about a 20% increase in workover rigs going on. I just think that that is the quickest way to get production online, you know, to take advantage of the current prices. I think the Look, the industry is just trying to figure out what's gonna happen in Iran, where those prices are gonna be in three to six months. Again, the workover activity is the quickest way along with just getting fracs done on any wells that have been drilled that were kinda ducks.
Speaker #5: I just think that that is the quickest way to get production online. To take advantage of the current prices. And I think that, look, the industry is just trying to figure out what's going to happen in Iran.
Speaker #5: And where those prices are going to be in three to six months. And again, the workover activity is the quickest way, along with just getting fracs done on any wells that have been drilled that were kind of DUCs.
Speaker #5: And so that's where we've seen the enhanced activity level so far.
Brian Cree: That's where we've seen the enhanced activity level so far.
Brian Cree: That's where we've seen the enhanced activity level so far.
Speaker #4: Great. Thanks. And I apologize if you've touched on this already. But I wonder if you could for the transactions you see or reviewed or pursued, I was wondering if you could kind of maybe characterize what the types of sellers are that you see coming to the market, sometimes, of course, higher prices does get a few people out of the shadows.
Noel Parks: Great. Thanks. I apologize if you've touched on this already, but I wonder if you could, you know, for the transactions you see or reviewed or pursued, I was wondering if you could kinda maybe characterize what the types of sellers are that you see coming to the market. Sometimes, of course, higher prices does get a few people out of the shadows. I guess I'm just wondering sort of maybe what sort of the pace and quality of deals is that you're reviewing these days.
Noel Parks: Great. Thanks. I apologize if you've touched on this already, but I wonder if you could, you know, for the transactions you see or reviewed or pursued, I was wondering if you could kinda maybe characterize what the types of sellers are that you see coming to the market. Sometimes, of course, higher prices does get a few people out of the shadows. I guess I'm just wondering sort of maybe what sort of the pace and quality of deals is that you're reviewing these days.
Speaker #4: And I guess I'm just wondering, sort of maybe what sort of the pace and quality of deals is that you're reviewing these days.
Speaker #5: Hey, Noel. It's Ben. It's always a mix. I would say right now, about 80% of the transactions we're evaluating are private equity-backed portfolio companies that, frankly, are trying to monetize in the elevated price environment, which is why making acquisitions goes hand in hand with hedging to ensure that we can lock in whatever returns we underwrite.
Ben Messier: Hey, Noel, it's Ben. It's always a mix. I would say right now, about 80% of the transactions we're evaluating are private equity-backed portfolio companies that frankly are trying to monetize in the elevated price environment, which is why, you know, making acquisitions goes hand in hand with hedging to ensure that we can lock in whatever returns we underwrite. There are one or two larger public companies right now that are bringing assets to market that are in our wheelhouse. I think that impacts kind of the cash stock mix, too. I'd say some PE-backed sellers are generally more open to taking shares, whereas a big public company probably wants cash. We evaluate all of these things when making acquisitions. I mean, the goal remains the same regardless of the seller.
Ben Messier: Hey, Noel, it's Ben. It's always a mix. I would say right now, about 80% of the transactions we're evaluating are private equity-backed portfolio companies that frankly are trying to monetize in the elevated price environment, which is why, you know, making acquisitions goes hand in hand with hedging to ensure that we can lock in whatever returns we underwrite. There are one or two larger public companies right now that are bringing assets to market that are in our wheelhouse. I think that impacts kind of the cash stock mix, too. I'd say some PE-backed sellers are generally more open to taking shares, whereas a big public company probably wants cash. We evaluate all of these things when making acquisitions. I mean, the goal remains the same regardless of the seller.
Speaker #5: There are one or two larger public companies right now that are bringing assets to market that are in our wheelhouse. So I think that impacts kind of the cash stock mix too.
Speaker #5: I'd say some PE-backed sellers are generally more open to taking shares, whereas a big public company probably wants cash. So we evaluate all of these things when making acquisitions.
Speaker #5: I mean, the goal remains the same regardless of the seller. It's got to be accretive. It needs to keep our balance sheet conservative. And it needs to be an attractive asset.
Ben Messier: It's gotta be accretive, it needs to keep our balance sheet conservative, and it needs to be an attractive asset.
Ben Messier: It's gotta be accretive, it needs to keep our balance sheet conservative, and it needs to be an attractive asset.
Speaker #4: Great. And just to follow up on that, I mean, can you kind of give an idea of roughly what vintage of PE companies you're seeing selling?
Noel Parks: Great. Just to follow up on that, I mean, can you kinda give an idea of roughly what vintage of PE companies you're seeing selling? You know, kinda like roughly when they were started or raised their funds.
Noel Parks: Great. Just to follow up on that, I mean, can you kinda give an idea of roughly what vintage of PE companies you're seeing selling? You know, kinda like roughly when they were started or raised their funds.
Speaker #4: Kind of like, roughly when they were started or raised their funds?
Ben Messier: A lot of the assets we're evaluating right now, we also evaluated last year in different forms. I think they're PE-backed assets that are reaching the end of their fund life for the most part, and are happy to see the higher prices to try to, you know, reach their internal hurdle rates that they need.
Speaker #5: A lot of the assets we're evaluating right now, we also evaluated last year in different forms. So I think their PE-backed assets that are reaching the end of their fund life, for the most part.
Ben Messier: A lot of the assets we're evaluating right now, we also evaluated last year in different forms. I think they're PE-backed assets that are reaching the end of their fund life for the most part, and are happy to see the higher prices to try to, you know, reach their internal hurdle rates that they need.
Speaker #5: And are happy to see the higher prices to try to reach their internal hurdle rates that they need.
Noel Parks: Interesting. Thanks a lot.
Noel Parks: Interesting. Thanks a lot.
Speaker #4: Interesting. Thanks a lot.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Next question comes on the line of Jeff Graham with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Jeff Grampp with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Jeff Grampp with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Thanks, guys. Just had one follow-up. Seeing some commentary regarding some pretty interesting pricing dynamics going on in a lot of basins, Bakken specifically. Just kind of curious what you guys are seeing with respect to oil dips.
Jeff Grampp: Thanks, guys. Just had one follow-up. Seeing some commentary regarding some pretty interesting pricing dynamics going on in a lot of basins, Bakken specifically. Just kind of curious what you guys are seeing with respect to oil dips and I know it's perhaps hard to forecast much beyond maybe a quarter or two, but just wondering how that might influence realizations for Q2 and in the near term?
Jeff Grampp: Thanks, guys. Just had one follow-up. Seeing some commentary regarding some pretty interesting pricing dynamics going on in a lot of basins, Bakken specifically. Just kind of curious what you guys are seeing with respect to oil dips and I know it's perhaps hard to forecast much beyond maybe a quarter or two, but just wondering how that might influence realizations for Q2 and in the near term?
Speaker #8: And that's perhaps hard to forecast much beyond maybe a quarter or two. But just wondering how that might influence realizations for Q2 and in the near term.
James Henderson: Hey, Jeff. This is Jimmy. I'll take a shot at that. Yeah, we're definitely seeing some cash prices that are better than what, better than WTI, frankly. Pretty evident when you look at the index that's pegged on the Dakota Access Pipeline, the DAPL diff, has been positive here in the spring months of the year and early summer. We do expect to see much improvement in our differentials that we realize for physical oil sales for at least the next few months. Obviously, that's a result of sort of changing in flows of light sweet oil around the world as a lot of Canadian oil is being called to the West and being exported. Reduce the flows down to the Midwest of the US.
Jimmy Henderson: Hey, Jeff. This is Jimmy. I'll take a shot at that. Yeah, we're definitely seeing some cash prices that are better than what, better than WTI, frankly. Pretty evident when you look at the index that's pegged on the Dakota Access Pipeline, the DAPL diff, has been positive here in the spring months of the year and early summer. We do expect to see much improvement in our differentials that we realize for physical oil sales for at least the next few months. Obviously, that's a result of sort of changing in flows of light sweet oil around the world as a lot of Canadian oil is being called to the West and being exported. Reduce the flows down to the Midwest of the U.S..
Speaker #9: Hey, Jeff. This is Jimmy. I'll take a shot at that. Yeah, we're definitely seeing some cash prices that are better than—well, better than WTI, frankly.
Speaker #9: Pretty evident when you look at the index that's pegged on the Dakota Access Pipelines, the DAPL dip. It's been positive here in the spring months of the year and early summer.
Speaker #9: So we do expect to see much improvement in our differentials that we realize for physical oil sales for at least the next few months.
Speaker #9: And obviously, that's a result of sort of changing flows of light sweet oil around the world, as a lot of Canadian oil is being called to the West.
Speaker #9: And being exported, that's reduced the flows down to the Midwest of the US. And so there's been a big call on oil coming out of the Bakken to meet the needs of refineries in the Midwest and even on down to the Gulf.
James Henderson: There's been a big call on oil coming out of the Bakken to meet the needs of refineries in the Midwest and even on down to the Gulf. Yeah, at least for the short, medium term here, we pretty optimistic about what differentials we'll be experiencing. Great thing about that is that's unhedged, so it's incremental to the realized pricing that we're getting after a hedging effect. Looks like a good set up for a pretty interesting Q2 and Q3 here.
Jimmy Henderson: There's been a big call on oil coming out of the Bakken to meet the needs of refineries in the Midwest and even on down to the Gulf. Yeah, at least for the short, medium term here, we pretty optimistic about what differentials we'll be experiencing. Great thing about that is that's unhedged, so it's incremental to the realized pricing that we're getting after a hedging effect. Looks like a good set up for a pretty interesting Q2 and Q3 here.
Speaker #9: So yeah, at least for the short, medium term here, we pretty optimistic about what differentials will be experiencing. And the great thing about that is that's unhedged.
Speaker #9: So it's incremental to the realized pricing that we're getting after a hedging effect. So looks like a good setup for a pretty interesting second and third quarter here.
Speaker #8: Great. I appreciate those details, Jimmy. I'll turn back. Thank you.
Jeff Grampp: Great. I appreciate those details, Jimmy. I'll turn it back. Thank you.
Jeff Grampp: Great. I appreciate those details, Jimmy. I'll turn it back. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of question and answer session. I would now like to turn the floor over to Jamie Bernard for closing comments.
Operator 2: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of question and answer session. I would now like to turn the floor over to Jamie Benard for closing comments.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of question and answer session. I would now like to turn the floor over to Jamie Benard for closing comments.
Jamie Benard: Thank you all for your time today. As mentioned, Vitesse's priorities remain returning capital to stockholders, disciplined capital allocation, and pursuing accretive growth opportunities, and maintaining a conservative balance sheet. Should you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact Ben Messier directly, and we look forward to speaking with you at one of our investor events or on next quarter's earnings call.
Speaker #5: Thank you all for your time today. As mentioned, Vitesse's priorities remain returning capital to stockholders, discipline, capital allocation, and pursuing accretive growth opportunities and maintaining a conservative balance sheet.
Jamie Benard: Thank you all for your time today. As mentioned, Vitesse's priorities remain returning capital to stockholders, disciplined capital allocation, and pursuing accretive growth opportunities, and maintaining a conservative balance sheet. Should you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact Ben Messier directly, and we look forward to speaking with you at one of our investor events or on next quarter's earnings call.
Speaker #5: So should you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact Ben Messier directly. And we look forward to speaking with you at one of our investor events.
Speaker #5: Or on next quarter's earnings call.
Operator 2: Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
