Q1 2026 A10 Networks Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to the A10 Networks' Q1 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Tom Baumann. Sir, you may begin.
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to the A10 Networks' Q1 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Tom Baumann. Sir, you may begin.
Speaker #1: I will now turn the conference over to your host, Tom Baumann. Sir, you may begin.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And thank you all for joining us today. This call is being recorded and webcast live, and may be accessed for at least 90 days via the A10 Networks website at a10networks.com.
Tom Baumann: Thank you. Thank you all for joining us today. This call is being recorded in a webcast live and may be accessed for at least 90 days via the A10 Networks website at a10networks.com. Hosting the call today are Dhrupad Trivedi, A10's President and CEO, and CFO, Michelle Caron. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, A10 Networks issued a press release announcing its Q1 2026 financial results. Additionally, A10 published a presentation and supplemental trended financial statements. You may access the press release, presentation, and trended financial statements on the investor relations section of the company's website.
Tom Baumann: Thank you. Thank you all for joining us today. This call is being recorded in a webcast live and may be accessed for at least 90 days via the A10 Networks website at a10networks.com. Hosting the call today are Dhrupad Trivedi, A10's President and CEO, and CFO, Michelle Caron. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, A10 Networks issued a press release announcing its Q1 2026 financial results. Additionally, A10 published a presentation and supplemental trended financial statements. You may access the press release, presentation, and trended financial statements on the investor relations section of the company's website.
Speaker #2: Hosting the call today are Dhrupad Trivedi, A10's president and CEO. And CFO Michelle Caron. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that shortly after the market closed today, A10 Networks issued a press release announcing its first quarter 2026 financial results.
Speaker #2: Additionally, A10 published a presentation and supplemental trended financial statements. You may access the press release, presentation, and trended financial statements on the Investor Relations section of the company's website.
Speaker #2: During the course of today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including statements regarding projections for future operating results, demand, industry and customer trends, macroeconomic factors, strategy, potential new products and solutions, our capital allocation strategy, profitability, expenses and investments, positioning, and our dividend program.
Tom Baumann: During the course of today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including statements regarding projections for future operating results, demand, industry and customer trends, macroeconomic factors, strategy, potential new products and solutions, our capital allocation strategy, profitability, expenses and investments, positioning, and our dividend program. These statements are based on current expectations and beliefs as of today, 28 April 2026. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control, that could cause actual results to differ materially, and you should not rely on them as predictions of future events. A10 does not intend to update information contained in these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, unless required by law. For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our most recent 10-K and quarterly report on form 10-Q.
Tom Baumann: During the course of today's call, management will make forward-looking statements, including statements regarding projections for future operating results, demand, industry and customer trends, macroeconomic factors, strategy, potential new products and solutions, our capital allocation strategy, profitability, expenses and investments, positioning, and our dividend program. These statements are based on current expectations and beliefs as of today, 28 April 2026. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control, that could cause actual results to differ materially, and you should not rely on them as predictions of future events. A10 does not intend to update information contained in these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, unless required by law. For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our most recent 10-K and quarterly report on form 10-Q.
Speaker #2: These statements are based on current expectations and beliefs as of today April 28, 2026. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties.
Speaker #2: Some of which are beyond our control that could cause actual results to differ materially and you should not rely on them as predictions of future events.
Speaker #2: A10 does not intend to update information contained in these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, unless required by law.
Speaker #2: For a more detailed description of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our most recent 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q. Please note that with the exception of revenue, financial measures discussed today are on a non-gap basis.
Tom Baumann: Please note that with the exception of revenue, financial measures discussed today are on a non-GAAP basis, unless otherwise noted, and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. The non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and may be different from non-GAAP measures presented by other companies. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP measures can be found in the press release issued today and on the trended quarterly financial statements posted on the company's website at a10networks.com. I'd like to turn the call over to Dhrupad Trivedi, president and CEO of A10 Networks.
Tom Baumann: Please note that with the exception of revenue, financial measures discussed today are on a non-GAAP basis, unless otherwise noted, and have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. The non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and may be different from non-GAAP measures presented by other companies. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP measures can be found in the press release issued today and on the trended quarterly financial statements posted on the company's website at a10networks.com. I'd like to turn the call over to Dhrupad Trivedi, president and CEO of A10 Networks.
Speaker #2: Unless otherwise noted. And have been adjusted to exclude certain charges. The non-gap financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP.
Speaker #2: It may be different from non-gap measures presented by other companies. A reconciliation between GAAP and non-gap measures can be found in the press release issued today and on the trended quarterly financial statements posted on the company's website at a10networks.com.
Speaker #2: Now I'd like to turn the call over to Dhrupad Trivedi, President and CEO of A10 Networks.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Tom. And thank you all for joining us today. A10 continued to deliver on our strategic plan centered around the current AI-driven demand cycle, while simultaneously focusing on disciplined execution.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you, Tom, and thank you all for joining us today. A10 continued to deliver on our strategic plan centered around the current AI-driven demand cycle while simultaneously focusing on disciplined execution. Our customers are seeking solutions to address two major challenges, accelerating traffic volume and complexity, and emerging security threats in the rapidly evolving AI landscape. A10 is well-positioned to address both these challenges. We delivered 13.4% revenue growth in Q1. This was our third quarter in the last four with double-digit growth. On a trailing twelve-month basis, we have grown revenue by 12.1% and delivered TTM adjusted EBITDA margins of 29.7%, in line with the rule of forty we outlined several years ago.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you, Tom, and thank you all for joining us today. A10 continued to deliver on our strategic plan centered around the current AI-driven demand cycle while simultaneously focusing on disciplined execution. Our customers are seeking solutions to address two major challenges, accelerating traffic volume and complexity, and emerging security threats in the rapidly evolving AI landscape. A10 is well-positioned to address both these challenges. We delivered 13.4% revenue growth in Q1. This was our third quarter in the last four with double-digit growth. On a trailing twelve-month basis, we have grown revenue by 12.1% and delivered TTM adjusted EBITDA margins of 29.7%, in line with the rule of forty we outlined several years ago.
Speaker #3: Our customers are seeking solutions to address two major challenges: accelerating traffic volume and complexity, and emerging security threats in the rapidly evolving AI landscape.
Speaker #3: A10 is well positioned to address both these challenges. We delivered 13.4% revenue growth in the first quarter, this was our third quarter in the last four with double-digit growth.
Speaker #3: On a trailing 12-month basis, we have grown revenue by 12.1% and delivered TTM-adjusted EBITDA margins of 29.7%, in line with the rule of 40 we outlined several years ago.
Speaker #3: During the same period, we have grown service provider revenue by 11% and enterprise revenue by 13%, demonstrating the importance of the strategic shift we have made.
Dhrupad Trivedi: During the same period, we have grown service provider revenue by 11% and enterprise revenue by 13%, demonstrating the importance of the strategic shift we have made. A key contributor to our growth is the relevance of our core platform to the demands of AI infrastructure build-out, which create new challenges with greater traffic within the networks. As a result, traffic management is returning to the forefront of build-out plans. This trend is aligned with A10's history and core expertise. Second, AI is evolving rapidly, creating new threats and expanding the footprint of security concerns. For most of the last decade, A10 has prioritized security advancement in each of our solutions.
Dhrupad Trivedi: During the same period, we have grown service provider revenue by 11% and enterprise revenue by 13%, demonstrating the importance of the strategic shift we have made. A key contributor to our growth is the relevance of our core platform to the demands of AI infrastructure build-out, which create new challenges with greater traffic within the networks. As a result, traffic management is returning to the forefront of build-out plans. This trend is aligned with A10's history and core expertise. Second, AI is evolving rapidly, creating new threats and expanding the footprint of security concerns. For most of the last decade, A10 has prioritized security advancement in each of our solutions.
Speaker #3: A key contributor to our growth is the relevance of our core platform to the demands of AI infrastructure build-out, which creates new challenges with greater traffic within the networks.
Speaker #3: As a result, traffic management is returning to the forefront of build-out plans, and this trend is aligned with A10's history and core expertise. Second, AI is evolving rapidly, creating new threats and expanding the footprint of security concerns.
Speaker #3: For most of the last decade, A10 has prioritized security advancement in each of our solutions. During this period, we have built a security portfolio that is now directly in the path of AI-driven threat expansion.
Dhrupad Trivedi: During this period, we have built a security portfolio that is now directly in the path of AI-driven threat expansion. This quarter, we were selected as a technology partner for a new application at one of the most significant AI infrastructure build-outs in our industry. As a result, the customer behind this build-out represents a high percent of total revenue this quarter. The expansion of the customer's commitment to their enterprise applications reflects our focus on and relevance of next-generation networking. Deployments of this scale are time-sensitive and technically demanding, and it required prioritized allocation of product, inventory, and engineering resources. This was a deliberate choice to support a strategic customer and partner through a time-sensitive deployment window. We believe capturing this opportunity at the right cadence creates long-term value for the business. I also want to highlight a dynamic I believe is increasingly important to our story.
Dhrupad Trivedi: During this period, we have built a security portfolio that is now directly in the path of AI-driven threat expansion. This quarter, we were selected as a technology partner for a new application at one of the most significant AI infrastructure build-outs in our industry. As a result, the customer behind this build-out represents a high percent of total revenue this quarter. The expansion of the customer's commitment to their enterprise applications reflects our focus on and relevance of next-generation networking. Deployments of this scale are time-sensitive and technically demanding, and it required prioritized allocation of product, inventory, and engineering resources. This was a deliberate choice to support a strategic customer and partner through a time-sensitive deployment window. We believe capturing this opportunity at the right cadence creates long-term value for the business. I also want to highlight a dynamic I believe is increasingly important to our story.
Speaker #3: This quarter, we were selected as a technology partner for a new application at one of the most significant AI infrastructure build-outs in our industry.
Speaker #3: As a result, the customer behind this build-out represents a high percent of total revenue this quarter. The expansion of the customer's commitment to their enterprise applications reflects our focus on, and relevance of, next-generation networking.
Speaker #3: Deployments of this scale are time-sensitive, and technically demanding, and it required prioritized allocation of product, inventory, and engineering resources. This was a deliberate choice to support a strategic customer and partner through a time-sensitive deployment window.
Speaker #3: We believe capturing this opportunity at the right cadence creates long-term value for the business. I also want to highlight a dynamic I believe is increasingly important to our story.
Speaker #3: AI is transforming the distinction between how large enterprises and service providers build their networks. The workloads are the same, the performance demands are the same, and security requirements are the same.
Dhrupad Trivedi: AI is transforming the distinction between how large enterprises and service providers build their networks. The workloads are the same, the performance demands are the same, and security requirements are the same. What this means practically is that a Fortune 500 customer standing up an internal AI cluster is now evaluating the same architectural choices as a cloud provider. A service provider hosting AI workloads for their enterprise tenants is being held to the same standard as its customers' own data centers. We have built our platform for exactly this world. One architecture, one operating model, one security framework across both segments. That is a meaningful competitive advantage as this convergence accelerates, driven by AI. Our disciplined operating model balances targeted investment with margin expansion, converting growth into profitability and cash, while dynamically reinvesting in strategic priorities.
Dhrupad Trivedi: AI is transforming the distinction between how large enterprises and service providers build their networks. The workloads are the same, the performance demands are the same, and security requirements are the same. What this means practically is that a Fortune 500 customer standing up an internal AI cluster is now evaluating the same architectural choices as a cloud provider. A service provider hosting AI workloads for their enterprise tenants is being held to the same standard as its customers' own data centers. We have built our platform for exactly this world. One architecture, one operating model, one security framework across both segments. That is a meaningful competitive advantage as this convergence accelerates, driven by AI. Our disciplined operating model balances targeted investment with margin expansion, converting growth into profitability and cash, while dynamically reinvesting in strategic priorities.
Speaker #3: What this means, practically, is that a Fortune 500 customer standing up an internal AI cluster is now evaluating the same architectural choices as a cloud provider.
Speaker #3: A service provider hosting AI workloads for their enterprise tenants is being held to the same standard as its customers' own data centers. We have built our platform for exactly this world.
Speaker #3: One architecture. One operating model. One security framework across both segments. That is a meaningful competitive advantage as this convergence accelerates driven by AI. Our disciplined operating model balances targeted investment with margin expansion converting growth into profitability and cash while dynamically reinvesting in strategic priorities.
Speaker #3: We continue to meet our objectives for EBITDA margin reflecting our ability to reallocate resources based on best business opportunities. This results in consistent revenue, and EPS performance.
Dhrupad Trivedi: We continue to meet our objectives for EBITDA margin, reflecting our ability to reallocate resources based on best business opportunities. This results in consistent revenue and EPS performance. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Michelle Caron, our Chief Financial Officer, to review the numbers in more detail. Michelle.
Dhrupad Trivedi: We continue to meet our objectives for EBITDA margin, reflecting our ability to reallocate resources based on best business opportunities. This results in consistent revenue and EPS performance. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Michelle Caron, our Chief Financial Officer, to review the numbers in more detail. Michelle.
Speaker #3: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Michelle Caron, our Chief Financial Officer, to review the numbers in more detail. Michelle.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Dhrupad. As a reminder, with the exception of revenue, all of the metrics discussed on this call are non-GAAP basis unless otherwise stated.
Michelle Caron: Thank you, Dhrupad. As a reminder, with the exception of revenue, all of the metrics discussed on this call are a non-GAAP basis unless otherwise stated. A full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results are provided in our press release and on our website. Let me turn to the results. As Dhrupad noted, Q1 results were aligned with our business model goals and delivered revenue growth of 13.4% to $75 million. Turning to mix, product revenue was $44 million or 59% of total revenue, growing 22.3% year over year, with service revenue comprising the remainder. Security-led revenue was a strong driver of our product revenue growth and continues to meet or exceed our long-term goal of security-led revenue as a percentage of total revenue. Security remains the dominant revenue driver across our next-gen networking, legacy networking, and network security solution areas.
Michelle Caron: Thank you, Dhrupad. As a reminder, with the exception of revenue, all of the metrics discussed on this call are a non-GAAP basis unless otherwise stated. A full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results are provided in our press release and on our website. Let me turn to the results. As Dhrupad noted, Q1 results were aligned with our business model goals and delivered revenue growth of 13.4% to $75 million. Turning to mix, product revenue was $44 million or 59% of total revenue, growing 22.3% year over year, with service revenue comprising the remainder. Security-led revenue was a strong driver of our product revenue growth and continues to meet or exceed our long-term goal of security-led revenue as a percentage of total revenue. Security remains the dominant revenue driver across our next-gen networking, legacy networking, and network security solution areas.
Speaker #2: A full reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results are provided in our press release and on our website. So let me turn to the results.
Speaker #2: As Dhrupad noted, Q1 results were aligned with our business model goals and delivered revenue growth of 13.4% to $75 million. Turning to NYX, product revenue was $44 million, or 59% of total revenue, growing 22.3% year over year, with service revenue comprising the remainder.
Speaker #2: Security-led revenue was a strong driver of our product revenue growth and continues to meet or exceed our long-term goal of security-led revenue as a percentage of total revenue.
Speaker #2: Security remains the dominant revenue driver across our next-gen networking legacy networking and network security solution areas. Turning to our major verticals, enterprise customers represented 56% of Q1 revenues, with America's continuing to outpace overall enterprise revenue growth.
Michelle Caron: Turning to our major verticals, enterprise customers represented 56% of Q1 revenues, with Americas continuing to outpace overall enterprise revenue growth. While Q1 benefited from timing of large orders, this segment continues to grow above company average in terms of results as well as outlook. Enterprise momentum reflects the combination of our focus on this segment, as well as continued strong demand for our next-gen networking solutions as customers prioritize modernizing their infrastructure. Our customers across both segments are aligning on the same underlying requirements for performance, security, and scale. From a financial lens, this convergence is showing up in larger opportunities with our enterprise customers. Service provider revenue was 44% of total revenue in Q1. Both verticals align with our strategy and reflect the alignment of our offerings with AI infrastructure build-outs.
Michelle Caron: Turning to our major verticals, enterprise customers represented 56% of Q1 revenues, with Americas continuing to outpace overall enterprise revenue growth. While Q1 benefited from timing of large orders, this segment continues to grow above company average in terms of results as well as outlook. Enterprise momentum reflects the combination of our focus on this segment, as well as continued strong demand for our next-gen networking solutions as customers prioritize modernizing their infrastructure. Our customers across both segments are aligning on the same underlying requirements for performance, security, and scale. From a financial lens, this convergence is showing up in larger opportunities with our enterprise customers. Service provider revenue was 44% of total revenue in Q1. Both verticals align with our strategy and reflect the alignment of our offerings with AI infrastructure build-outs.
Speaker #2: While first quarter benefited from timing of large orders, this segment continues to grow above company average in terms of results as well as outlook.
Speaker #2: Enterprise momentum reflects the combination of our focus on this segment as well as continued strong demand for our next-gen networking solutions as customers prioritize modernizing their infrastructure.
Speaker #2: Our customers across both segments are aligning on the same underlying requirements for performance, security, and scale. From a financial lens, this convergence is showing up in larger opportunities with our enterprise customers.
Speaker #2: Service provider revenue was 44% of total revenue in the first quarter. Both verticals align with our strategy and reflect the alignment of our offerings with AI infrastructure build-outs.
Speaker #2: A10 has evolved its solutions to be well-positioned to capture this next-gen networking demand, while also addressing legacy refresh opportunities as this market transition progresses and customers resume investment, continuing to align their evolving priorities around performance, scale, and security.
Michelle Caron: A10 has evolved its solutions to be well-positioned to capture this next-gen networking demand while also addressing legacy refresh opportunities as this market transition progresses and customers resume investment while continuing to align their evolving priorities around performance, scale, and security. From a geographical perspective, our Americas region represented 67% of global revenue, driven by continued investment in AI infrastructure build-outs. In EMEA, we saw headwinds related to regional conflicts. In APJ, spending remains conservative as customers navigate an uncertain capital environment. We're not losing market share or experiencing competitive displacement, rather, customers are extending asset lives and deferring discretionary spend. Q1 operating results reflected our continued investment in our strategic initiatives as well as our financial discipline amidst temporary input cost pressures. Non-GAAP gross margin was 80.6%, in line with our stated goals.
Michelle Caron: A10 has evolved its solutions to be well-positioned to capture this next-gen networking demand while also addressing legacy refresh opportunities as this market transition progresses and customers resume investment while continuing to align their evolving priorities around performance, scale, and security. From a geographical perspective, our Americas region represented 67% of global revenue, driven by continued investment in AI infrastructure build-outs. In EMEA, we saw headwinds related to regional conflicts. In APJ, spending remains conservative as customers navigate an uncertain capital environment. We're not losing market share or experiencing competitive displacement, rather, customers are extending asset lives and deferring discretionary spend. Q1 operating results reflected our continued investment in our strategic initiatives as well as our financial discipline amidst temporary input cost pressures. Non-GAAP gross margin was 80.6%, in line with our stated goals.
Speaker #2: From a geographical perspective, our America's region represented 67% of global revenue, driven by continued investment in AI infrastructure build-outs. In EMEA, we saw headwinds related to regional conflicts.
Speaker #2: In APJ, spending remains conservative as customers navigate an uncertain capital environment. We're not losing market share or experiencing competitive displacement; rather, customers are extending asset lives and deferring discretionary spend.
Speaker #2: Q1 operating results reflected our continued investment in our strategic initiatives as well as our financial discipline, amidst temporary input cost pressures. Non-GAAP gross margin was 80.6% in line with our stated goals.
Speaker #2: Operating expenses were $41.5 million as we prioritized investments in AI-facing innovation, next-gen networking, and security. Operating margin was 25.2%, resulting in net income of $17.7 million, or $0.25 per basic and $0.24 per diluted share.
Michelle Caron: Operating expenses were $41.5 million as we prioritized investments in AI-facing innovation, next-gen networking, and security. Operating margin was 25.2%, resulting in net income of $17.7 million, or $0.25 per basic and $0.24 per diluted share. Q1 diluted weighted share count was 72.9 million shares. Operating cash flow, and therefore free cash flow in the quarter, was temporarily impacted by the timing of receivables as well as inventory investments. Neither item reflects a change in underlying business fundamentals, and we expect both to normalize over the course of the year. Full year free cash flow expectations remain unchanged, expanding on a year-over-year basis. Adjusted EBITDA was $22.5 million, 30% of revenue, consistent with our business model goals as we balance investment and growth initiatives with our commitments to sustained and expanding profitability.
Michelle Caron: Operating expenses were $41.5 million as we prioritized investments in AI-facing innovation, next-gen networking, and security. Operating margin was 25.2%, resulting in net income of $17.7 million, or $0.25 per basic and $0.24 per diluted share. Q1 diluted weighted share count was 72.9 million shares. Operating cash flow, and therefore free cash flow in the quarter, was temporarily impacted by the timing of receivables as well as inventory investments. Neither item reflects a change in underlying business fundamentals, and we expect both to normalize over the course of the year. Full year free cash flow expectations remain unchanged, expanding on a year-over-year basis. Adjusted EBITDA was $22.5 million, 30% of revenue, consistent with our business model goals as we balance investment and growth initiatives with our commitments to sustained and expanding profitability.
Speaker #2: Q1 diluted weighted share count was 72.9 million shares. Operating cash flow and therefore free cash flow in the quarter was temporarily impacted by the timing of receivables as well as inventory investments.
Speaker #2: Neither item reflects a change in underlying business fundamentals and we expect both to normalize over the course of the year. Full-year free cash flow expectations remain unchanged, expanding on a year-over-year basis.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA was $22.5 million, 30% of revenue, consistent with our business model goals, as we balance investment in growth initiatives with our commitments to sustained and expanding profitability.
Speaker #2: Turning to the balance sheet, cash and marketable securities were $369.7 million as of March 31st, and deferred revenue was $147.2 million. During the quarter, we paid $4.3 million in cash dividends and repurchased $2.5 million worth of shares, returning a total of $6.8 million to our shareholders.
Michelle Caron: Turning to the balance sheet, cash and marketable securities were $369.7 million as of 31 March, and deferred revenue was $147.2 million. During the quarter, we paid $4.3 million in cash dividends and repurchased $2.5 million worth of shares, returning a total of $6.8 million to our shareholders. The board has approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.06 per share to be paid on 1 June 2026, to shareholders of record on 15 May 2026. The company has $53.4 million remaining on its $75 million share repurchase authorization. As is true for everyone in the industry, we are seeing delivery and cost challenges related to pricing of certain components.
Michelle Caron: Turning to the balance sheet, cash and marketable securities were $369.7 million as of 31 March, and deferred revenue was $147.2 million. During the quarter, we paid $4.3 million in cash dividends and repurchased $2.5 million worth of shares, returning a total of $6.8 million to our shareholders. The board has approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.06 per share to be paid on 1 June 2026, to shareholders of record on 15 May 2026. The company has $53.4 million remaining on its $75 million share repurchase authorization. As is true for everyone in the industry, we are seeing delivery and cost challenges related to pricing of certain components.
Speaker #2: The board has approved a quarterly cash dividend of 6 cents per share to be paid on June 1st, 2026 to shareholders of record on May 15th, 2026.
Speaker #2: The company has 53.4 million remaining on its 75 million dollar share repurchase authorization. As is true for everyone in the industry, we are seeing delivery and cost challenges related to pricing of certain components.
Speaker #2: We entered this environment with strong supplier relationships and we will keep evaluating the evolving market and adapt as needed. I'll now turn the call back over to Dhrupad for an update on our 2026 outlook and closing comments.
Michelle Caron: We entered this environment with strong supplier relationships, and we will keep evaluating the evolving market and adapt as needed. I'll now turn the call back over to Dhrupad for an update on our 2026 outlook and closing comments.
Michelle Caron: We entered this environment with strong supplier relationships, and we will keep evaluating the evolving market and adapt as needed. I'll now turn the call back over to Dhrupad for an update on our 2026 outlook and closing comments.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Michelle. A10 continues to strengthen its position as a partner of choice to address the evolving traffic and security needs of next-generation networks.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you, Michelle. A10 continues to strengthen its position as a partner of choice to address the evolving traffic and security needs of next generation networks. The strong financial results, including double-digit growth and solid EBITDA margins, validate the strategic investments we have made. As a result, A10 is well positioned in front of multiple durable secular catalysts. We continue to invest to enhance our position across our portfolio while preserving profitability and shareholder returns. We are reiterating our 2026 outlook with 2026 revenue growth within our guided range of 10% to 12%, adjusted EBITDA margins between 28% to 30%, and EPS growth of 12% to 14%. In addition, we remain confident and committed to our long-term operating model. Operator, you can now open the call up for questions.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you, Michelle. A10 continues to strengthen its position as a partner of choice to address the evolving traffic and security needs of next generation networks. The strong financial results, including double-digit growth and solid EBITDA margins, validate the strategic investments we have made. As a result, A10 is well positioned in front of multiple durable secular catalysts. We continue to invest to enhance our position across our portfolio while preserving profitability and shareholder returns. We are reiterating our 2026 outlook with 2026 revenue growth within our guided range of 10% to 12%, adjusted EBITDA margins between 28% to 30%, and EPS growth of 12% to 14%. In addition, we remain confident and committed to our long-term operating model. Operator, you can now open the call up for questions.
Speaker #1: The strong financial results, including double-digit growth and solid EBITDA margins, validate the strategic investments we have made. As a result, A10 is well positioned in front of multiple durable secular catalysts.
Speaker #1: We continue to invest to enhance our position across our portfolio while preserving profitability and shareholder returns. We are retrading our 2026 outlook with 2026 revenue growth within our guided range of 10 to 12 percent, adjusted EBITDA margins between 28 to 30 percent, and EPS growth of 12 to 14 percent.
Speaker #1: In addition, we remain confident and committed to our long-term operating model. Operator, you can now open the call up for questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad.
Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Once again, please press star one if you have a question or a comment. Our first question comes from Gray Powell with BTIG. Please proceed.
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Speaker #3: Once again, please press star one if you have a question or a comment. Our first question comes from Gray Powell with BTIG. Please proceed.
Speaker #1: Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question and congratulations on the very strong set of results. It was really good to see the product revenue growth accelerate to 22 percent this quarter.
Gray Powell: Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question and congratulations on the very strong set of results. It was really good to see the product revenue growth accelerate to 22% this quarter. I guess my first question would just be, where do you think we're at in the investment cycle around AI? If you start to see a further acceleration in traffic growth, would you think about prioritizing faster revenue growth over the historical 28% to 30%, even the margin framework that you've always talked about?
Gray Powell: Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question and congratulations on the very strong set of results. It was really good to see the product revenue growth accelerate to 22% this quarter. I guess my first question would just be, where do you think we're at in the investment cycle around AI? If you start to see a further acceleration in traffic growth, would you think about prioritizing faster revenue growth over the historical 28% to 30%, even the margin framework that you've always talked about?
Speaker #1: So I guess my first question would just be, where do you think we're at in the investment cycle around AI? And if you start to see a further acceleration in traffic growth, would you think about prioritizing faster revenue growth over the historical 28 to 30 percent EBITDA margin framework that you've always talked about?
Speaker #4: Yeah. First of all, thank you, Greg. Good question. the investment cycle, as I think we have said in the past, that we see this as there is a large build-out phase and where we are actually focused with customers is in that phase.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. First of all, thank you. Very good question. In terms of, I think the investment cycle, as I think we have said in the past that we see this as there is a large build-out phase and where we are actually focused with customers is in that phase, but also with customers who will over time deploy their own, you know, solutions, whether it's around sovereign AI and things like that. The second part of that cycle, I think, is very early stage, and we expect to see that benefit next few years. The first part of the cycle, I think, is pretty active build-out.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. First of all, thank you. Very good question. In terms of, I think the investment cycle, as I think we have said in the past that we see this as there is a large build-out phase and where we are actually focused with customers is in that phase, but also with customers who will over time deploy their own, you know, solutions, whether it's around sovereign AI and things like that. The second part of that cycle, I think, is very early stage, and we expect to see that benefit next few years. The first part of the cycle, I think, is pretty active build-out.
Speaker #4: But also with customers who will, over time, deploy their own solutions, whether it's around sovereign AI and things like that. So the second part of that cycle, I think, is very early stage, and we expect to see that benefit in the next few years.
Speaker #4: The first part of the cycle, I think, is pretty active build-out. I don't know how much higher it will go or lower it will go, but it is pretty solid and stable in terms of the significance.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I don't know how much higher it will go or lower it will go, but it is pretty solid and stable in terms of the significance committed to the build-out and even though the build-out itself takes several quarters, right? I think we are in the midst of that build-out phase, and we are at very early stage of where Enterprise and other, you know, entities will use AI for their own business more directly, whether it's on-prem or cloud or combined. I think your second question is correct and appropriate. We certainly continuously look at that trade-off, and I would say, you know, the focus for us is, if there are opportunities to grow faster, typically that also helps in growing EPS faster, right?
Dhrupad Trivedi: I don't know how much higher it will go or lower it will go, but it is pretty solid and stable in terms of the significance committed to the build-out and even though the build-out itself takes several quarters, right? I think we are in the midst of that build-out phase, and we are at very early stage of where Enterprise and other, you know, entities will use AI for their own business more directly, whether it's on-prem or cloud or combined. I think your second question is correct and appropriate. We certainly continuously look at that trade-off, and I would say, you know, the focus for us is, if there are opportunities to grow faster, typically that also helps in growing EPS faster, right?
Speaker #4: Committed to the build-out and even though the build-out itself takes several quarters, right? So I think we are in the midst of that build-out phase.
Speaker #4: And we are at a very early stage of where enterprise and other entities will use AI for their own business more directly, whether it's on-prem, or cloud, or combined.
Speaker #4: And I think your second question is correct and appropriate. So we certainly continuously look at that trade-off. And I would say the focus for us is if there are opportunities to grow faster, typically that also helps in growing EPS faster, right?
Speaker #4: So, I think we look at it from a point of view of revenue and EPS being the ultimate top and bottom line. And the EBITDA margin is a reflection of our ability to drive kind of OPEX productivity, as well as maintain sufficient margin that the fall-through is good.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I think we look at it from a point of view of revenue and EPS being the ultimate top and bottom line. You know, the EBITDA margin is a reflection of our ability to drive kind of OpEx productivity as well as maintain sufficient margin that the fall through is good. Absolutely, I think as we navigate the market and if we see opportunities for significantly faster growth while still delivering, you know, EPS expansion, we continue to look at those.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I think we look at it from a point of view of revenue and EPS being the ultimate top and bottom line. You know, the EBITDA margin is a reflection of our ability to drive kind of OpEx productivity as well as maintain sufficient margin that the fall through is good. Absolutely, I think as we navigate the market and if we see opportunities for significantly faster growth while still delivering, you know, EPS expansion, we continue to look at those.
Speaker #4: But absolutely, I think as we navigate the market and if we see opportunities for significantly faster growth while still delivering EPS expansion, we continue to look at those.
Speaker #1: Yes, that's perfect. And then just my follow-up question, if that's okay. So you called out the large customer win. I'm assuming that hit in the enterprise segment because the revenue growth there really spiked.
Gray Powell: Yes, that's perfect. Then just my follow-up question, if that's okay.
Gray Powell: Yes, that's perfect. Then just my follow-up question, if that's okay.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah.
Gray Powell: You called out the large customer win.
Gray Powell: You called out the large customer win.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Mm-hmm.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Mm-hmm.
Gray Powell: I'm assuming that hit in the enterprise segment because the revenue growth there, really spiked. Is there any additional detail you can give? Like, was that a, was that one of the larger front-tier models? If not, just like, just how should we think about, you know, sort of the split between growth and enterprise and service provider going forward?
Gray Powell: I'm assuming that hit in the enterprise segment because the revenue growth there, really spiked. Is there any additional detail you can give? Like, was that a, was that one of the larger front-tier models? If not, just like, just how should we think about, you know, sort of the split between growth and enterprise and service provider going forward?
Speaker #1: Is there any additional detail you can give? Was that one of the larger frontier models? And if not, just how should we think about the split between growth and enterprise and service provider going forward?
Speaker #4: Yeah. Yeah. No, perfect question. And I think I touched on it very briefly, but that's a great question. So I think, first of all, what we are seeing is with many of our large customers, that were traditionally SP or enterprise, right?
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. Yeah, no, look, perfect question. You know, I think I touched on it very briefly, but that's a great question. I think first of all.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. Yeah, no, look, perfect question. You know, I think I touched on it very briefly, but that's a great question. I think first of all.
Gray Powell: Mm-hmm.
Gray Powell: Mm-hmm.
Dhrupad Trivedi: What we are seeing is that many of our large customers that were traditionally SP or enterprise, right? There is a complication where a lot of our SP customers when they are doing AI, are sort of also doing a lot of enterprise applications. That's really where that becomes hard to segregate completely. Enterprise customers are planning to build their own on-prem, you know, inference models and build out. In that case, they look like a service provider, right? That's the demarcation. I think this is a case of, you know, an existing large customer expanding their deployment. It's, it's really around an enterprise application, so it's not the DDoS type product, and it's an enterprise application that enables their delivery of AI.
Dhrupad Trivedi: What we are seeing is that many of our large customers that were traditionally SP or enterprise, right? There is a complication where a lot of our SP customers when they are doing AI, are sort of also doing a lot of enterprise applications. That's really where that becomes hard to segregate completely. Enterprise customers are planning to build their own on-prem, you know, inference models and build out. In that case, they look like a service provider, right? That's the demarcation. I think this is a case of, you know, an existing large customer expanding their deployment. It's, it's really around an enterprise application, so it's not the DDoS type product, and it's an enterprise application that enables their delivery of AI.
Speaker #4: There is a complication where a lot of our SP customers when they are doing AI are sort of also doing a lot of enterprise applications.
Speaker #4: And so that's really where that becomes hard to segregate completely. And then enterprise customers are planning to build their own on-prem inference models and build-out.
Speaker #4: So, in that case, they look like a service provider, right? So that's the demarcation. And I think this is a case of an existing large customer expanding their deployment.
Speaker #4: And it's really around an enterprise application. So it's not the DDoS type product. And it's an enterprise application that enables their delivery of AI.
Speaker #1: Understood. Okay. Thank you very much.
Gray Powell: Understood. Okay. Thank you very much.
Gray Powell: Understood. Okay. Thank you very much.
Speaker #4: Yeah. No problem. Thank you.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. No problem. Thank you.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. No problem. Thank you.
Speaker #3: The next question comes from Hamid Corson with BWS Financial. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial. Please proceed.
Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you for taking the call. Just for clarification purposes, is it was this one that accounts receivable billed? Was it all related to this one large project?
Hamed Khorsand: Hey, thank you for taking the call. Just for clarification purposes, is it? Was this one, the accounts receivable build, was it all related to this one large project, and did you all receive payment for it?
Hamed Khorsand: Hey, thank you for taking the call. Just for clarification purposes, is it? Was this one, the accounts receivable build, was it all related to this one large project, and did you all receive payment for it?
Speaker #5: And did you all receive payment for it?
Speaker #4: Oh, good question, Mitchell. You can answer that, yeah. Go ahead.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Oh, good question. Michelle, you can answer that. Go ahead.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Oh, good question. Michelle, you can answer that. Go ahead.
Michelle Caron: This is a calendar event and not a credit event, right? Our business fundamentals remain strong. There was no meaningful uptick in our aged receivables, or there were no deterioration in our payment behavior. There were no concessions on standard payment terms with any customers. We see the business fundamentals as favorable.
Speaker #6: So this is a calendar event. And not a credit event, right? So our business fundamentals remain strong. There was no meaningful uptick in our Age Receivables.
Michelle Caron: This is a calendar event and not a credit event, right? Our business fundamentals remain strong. There was no meaningful uptick in our aged receivables, or there were no deterioration in our payment behavior. There were no concessions on standard payment terms with any customers. We see the business fundamentals as favorable.
Speaker #6: Or there were no deterioration in our payment behavior. There were no concessions on standard payment terms with any customers. So we see the business fundamentals as favorable.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Yeah. And I think, Hamid, you are correct. We expect it to be in Q2 in addition to the original Q2.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. I think, Hamed, you are correct. We expect it to be in Q2 in addition to the original Q2 expectation.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. I think, Hamed, you are correct. We expect it to be in Q2 in addition to the original Q2 expectation.
Speaker #6: We expect things to normalize over the course of the next couple of quarters and expect the full year to be on track.
Michelle Caron: We expect it to normalize, over the course of the next couple of quarters and expect the full year to be on track.
Michelle Caron: We expect it to normalize, over the course of the next couple of quarters and expect the full year to be on track.
Hamed Khorsand: Just given the growth that you saw in Q1, why the hesitation to keep guidance unchanged if you're growing in excess of, you know, 10% to 12% in Q1?
Speaker #1: And then just given the growth that you saw in Q1, why the hesitation to keep guidance unchanged if you're growing in excess of 10 to 12 percent in Q1?
Hamed Khorsand: Just given the growth that you saw in Q1, why the hesitation to keep guidance unchanged if you're growing in excess of, you know, 10% to 12% in Q1?
Speaker #4: Yeah, I think it's more that we are still in Q1, and I think we want to see the progression through the year. And if we see that momentum continuing in Q2 and beyond, obviously, we will revisit that.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. I think it's more that we are still, you know, in Q1, and I think we want to see the progression through the year. If we see that momentum continuing in Q2 and beyond, obviously we will revisit that. It's just that we are navigating obviously things that, from a time perspective, right? Including supply lead times and cost challenges for some components. Obviously our EMEIA business has little impact from some conflicts there, et cetera. We feel really good about 10% to 12%. If we see that progress in terms of pipeline growth and execution into Q2, obviously we will revisit that, Hamed. Fair question.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. I think it's more that we are still, you know, in Q1, and I think we want to see the progression through the year. If we see that momentum continuing in Q2 and beyond, obviously we will revisit that. It's just that we are navigating obviously things that, from a time perspective, right? Including supply lead times and cost challenges for some components. Obviously our EMEIA business has little impact from some conflicts there, et cetera. We feel really good about 10% to 12%. If we see that progress in terms of pipeline growth and execution into Q2, obviously we will revisit that, Hamed. Fair question.
Speaker #4: So it's not it's just that we are navigating obviously things that from a time perspective, right, including supply lead times and cost challenges for some components.
Speaker #4: And, obviously, our EMEA business has little impact from some conflicts there, etc. So we feel really good about 10 to 12 percent. And if we see that progress in terms of pipeline growth and execution into Q2, obviously, we will revisit that, Hamid.
Speaker #4: So fair question. Yeah.
Speaker #1: All right. Thank you.
Hamed Khorsand: All right. Thank you.
Hamed Khorsand: All right. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you.
Operator: The next question comes from Michael Romanelli with Mizuho. Please proceed.
Speaker #3: The next question comes from Michael Romanello with Mizuho. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from Michael Romanelli with Mizuho. Please proceed.
Michael Romanelli: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Yeah, I mean, in the press release, you guys noted that you're seeing expanded commitments from some of your top customers. Just wanna dive, you know, a bit deeper into that comment. Outside of this large project, like how is, you know, business activity across the install base? Just trying to get a feel for, you know, I guess the magnitude of, or size of this and just how business was, you know, excluding that large project. Then I have a follow-up.
Michael Romanelli: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Yeah, I mean, in the press release, you guys noted that you're seeing expanded commitments from some of your top customers. Just wanna dive, you know, a bit deeper into that comment. Outside of this large project, like how is, you know, business activity across the install base? Just trying to get a feel for, you know, I guess the magnitude of, or size of this and just how business was, you know, excluding that large project. Then I have a follow-up.
Speaker #7: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. So yeah, I mean, in the press release, you guys noted that you're seeing expanded commitments from some of your top customers.
Speaker #7: Just want to dive a bit deeper into that comment. So outside of this large project, how is business activity across the install base? You're trying to get a feel for, I guess, the magnitude of or size of this and just how business was excluding that large project.
Speaker #7: And then I have a follow-up.
Speaker #8: Yeah. So I think that the intent of that, Michael, was really to highlight that many of our existing customers who were service providers or large enterprise are all beginning to allocate more spending and priority to AI, whether it's building it or using it.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. I think that the intent of that, Michael, was really to highlight that, you know, many of our existing customers who were service providers or large enterprise are all beginning to allocate more spending and priority to AI, whether it's building it or using it. In general, what we are seeing is, even if they were buying certain other product categories from us, this is an area of expansion for us, and that's the basis for the comment of expanded commitment, right? It could be service provider in Europe who's also now doing enterprise, or it could be somebody like that, as well as an enterprise customer who is now deploying or expanding their AI infrastructure and build-out. It could be any of those kinds of things.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. I think that the intent of that, Michael, was really to highlight that, you know, many of our existing customers who were service providers or large enterprise are all beginning to allocate more spending and priority to AI, whether it's building it or using it. In general, what we are seeing is, even if they were buying certain other product categories from us, this is an area of expansion for us, and that's the basis for the comment of expanded commitment, right? It could be service provider in Europe who's also now doing enterprise, or it could be somebody like that, as well as an enterprise customer who is now deploying or expanding their AI infrastructure and build-out. It could be any of those kinds of things.
Speaker #8: And so in general, what we are seeing is even if they were buying certain other product categories from us, this is an area of expansion for us.
Speaker #8: And that's the basis for the comment of expanded commitment, right? So it could be service provider in Europe who's also now doing enterprise or it could be somebody like that as well as an enterprise customer who's now deploying or expanding their AI infrastructure and build-out.
Speaker #8: So it could be any of those kinds of things.
Speaker #7: Okay. Got it. That's helpful. Thanks, Dhrupad. And then just as my follow-up, you touched on this in the prepare remarks, but could you maybe just characterize demand and business activity across your primary geos?
Michael Romanelli: Okay. Got it. That, that's helpful. Thanks, Dhrupad.
Michael Romanelli: Okay. Got it. That, that's helpful. Thanks, Dhrupad.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah
Michael Romanelli: ... you know, just as my follow-up, you know, you touched on this in the prepared remarks. Can you maybe just, you know, characterize demand and, you know, business activity across your primary geos? You know, it sounds like some parts of the business are still challenged. Anything worth highlighting or calling out this quarter? Thanks.
Michael Romanelli: ... you know, just as my follow-up, you know, you touched on this in the prepared remarks. Can you maybe just, you know, characterize demand and, you know, business activity across your primary geos? You know, it sounds like some parts of the business are still challenged. Anything worth highlighting or calling out this quarter? Thanks.
Speaker #7: It sounds like some parts of the business are still challenged. Anything worth highlighting or calling out this quarter? Thanks.
Speaker #4: Yeah. No problem. So I think the maybe I'll go in reverse order, right? So we talk about Japan. is if you look at all their macro factors and spending pattern, there is caution with a lot of reasons, right?
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah, no problem. I think, you know, maybe I'll go in reverse order, right? We talk about Japan and that market is, if you look at all their macro factors and spending patterns, there is a portion with a lot of reasons, right? That they keep citing. What we see is typically what would have been a spending profile of the large customers there, is getting pushed out more to the right, because it's both ends of it. It's not just being worried about cost or international issues or something. It's also concern around deploying more CapEx, when there is not that much GDP growth and expecting to recover it, right? From an ROI as well.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah, no problem. I think, you know, maybe I'll go in reverse order, right? We talk about Japan and that market is, if you look at all their macro factors and spending patterns, there is a portion with a lot of reasons, right? That they keep citing. What we see is typically what would have been a spending profile of the large customers there, is getting pushed out more to the right, because it's both ends of it. It's not just being worried about cost or international issues or something. It's also concern around deploying more CapEx, when there is not that much GDP growth and expecting to recover it, right? From an ROI as well.
Speaker #4: That they keep siding. And what we see is, typically, what would have been a spending profile of the large customers there is getting pushed out more to the right because it's both ends of it.
Speaker #4: It's not just being worried about cost or international issues or something. It's also concern around x when there is not that much GDP growth.
Speaker #4: And expecting to recover it, right? So, from an ROI as well. So I think we see that as a region where we are very focused on maintaining those customers, staying close to them, helping them solve problems now.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I think we see that as a region where we are very focused on maintaining those customers, staying close to them, helping them solve problems now, and expect that to come back. We don't see it imminent, right? It could be later, and we don't know exactly. EMEA, I think, as you can imagine, there's a section of EMEA which is quite challenged with activity with international news, obviously. I think that is a part that is not kind of growing well. But we continue to see progress and improvement in our business in core Europe, part of that segment, right? But, you know, obviously the Middle East part is a little bit harder right now.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I think we see that as a region where we are very focused on maintaining those customers, staying close to them, helping them solve problems now, and expect that to come back. We don't see it imminent, right? It could be later, and we don't know exactly. EMEA, I think, as you can imagine, there's a section of EMEA which is quite challenged with activity with international news, obviously. I think that is a part that is not kind of growing well. But we continue to see progress and improvement in our business in core Europe, part of that segment, right? But, you know, obviously the Middle East part is a little bit harder right now.
Speaker #4: And expect that to come back. But we don't see it imminent, right? It could be later and we don't know exactly. EMEA, I think, as you can imagine, there's a section of EMEA which is quite challenged with active activity with international news, obviously.
Speaker #4: And so I think that is part that is not kind of growing well. But we continue to see progress and improvement in our business in core Europe part of that segment, right?
Speaker #4: So, but obviously, the Middle East part is a little bit harder right now. And then, when it comes to America, I think there's obviously two categories, right?
Dhrupad Trivedi: When it comes to Americas, I think, you know, there's obviously two categories, right? We see customers who are leaning more into AI are more optimistic and spending more and are more outward looking towards wanting to be participating in that. On our traditional sort of telco customers, what we are seeing is stability, I would say. I think it's not where it's declining anymore, for sure, and it's not growing, but it's very stable right now, right? It could improve in the future as those customers as well figure out their AI spending and deployment patterns. But we certainly see the spending on AI as being the biggest in Americas or US.
Dhrupad Trivedi: When it comes to Americas, I think, you know, there's obviously two categories, right? We see customers who are leaning more into AI are more optimistic and spending more and are more outward looking towards wanting to be participating in that. On our traditional sort of telco customers, what we are seeing is stability, I would say. I think it's not where it's declining anymore, for sure, and it's not growing, but it's very stable right now, right? It could improve in the future as those customers as well figure out their AI spending and deployment patterns. But we certainly see the spending on AI as being the biggest in Americas or US.
Speaker #4: So, we see customers who are leaning more into AI are more optimistic and spending more, and are more outward-looking towards wanting to be participating in that.
Speaker #4: On our traditional sort of telco customers, what we are seeing is stability, I would say. So I think it's not where it's declining anymore for sure.
Speaker #4: And it's not growing, but it's very stable right now, right? And it could improve in the future as those customers as well figure out their AI spending and deployment pattern.
Speaker #4: So but we certainly see the spending on AI as being the biggest in Americas or US. And I think and then EMEA and then Japan we continue to make progress, including on AI solutions in Japan.
Dhrupad Trivedi: EMEA and then Japan, we continue to make progress, including on AI solutions in Japan, but the spending is correlated obviously to economy and outlook, and we are mostly focused on ensuring customer satisfaction.
Dhrupad Trivedi: EMEA and then Japan, we continue to make progress, including on AI solutions in Japan, but the spending is correlated obviously to economy and outlook, and we are mostly focused on ensuring customer satisfaction.
Speaker #4: But the spending is correlated, obviously, to economy and outlook. And we are mostly focused on ensuring customer satisfaction.
Speaker #7: That's helpful color. Thanks, Dhrupad.
Michael Romanelli: That's helpful color. Thanks, Dhrupad Trivedi.
Michael Romanelli: That's helpful color. Thanks, Dhrupad Trivedi.
Speaker #4: Yeah. No problem.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. No problem.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. No problem.
Speaker #3: The next question comes from Anya Soderstrom with Sodoty. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from Anja Soderstrom with Sidoti. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from Anja Soderstrom with Sidoti. Please proceed.
Speaker #9: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions and congrats on the nice quarter. This year's in the past, you said that the product revenues indicative of the services growth, right?
Rachel Smith: Hi, thank you for taking my questions and congrats on-
Anja Soderstrom: Hi, thank you for taking my questions and congrats on-
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thanks.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thanks.
Rachel Smith: On the nice quarter.
Anja Soderstrom: On the nice quarter.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thanks, Anja.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thanks, Anja.
Rachel Smith: I'm just curious. In the past, you said that the product revenue is indicative of the services-
Anja Soderstrom: I'm just curious. In the past, you said that the product revenue is indicative of the services-
Dhrupad Trivedi: Mm-hmm
Dhrupad Trivedi: Mm-hmm
Rachel Smith: Growth, right? We've seen the product growing quite nicely over the past couple of quarters, but the services have been lagging. What's the lag that we see there, and when do you expect the services to pick up?
Anja Soderstrom: Growth, right? We've seen the product growing quite nicely over the past couple of quarters, but the services have been lagging. What's the lag that we see there, and when do you expect the services to pick up?
Speaker #9: But and we've seen the products growing quite nicely over the past couple of quarters. But the services have been lagging. What's the lag that we see there when do you expect the services to pick up?
Speaker #4: Yeah. No, good question, Anya. So, I think if you think about it, typically the way the product is sold is, when you have product growth, in four quarters' time that contract or support comes up for renewal.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Good question, Anja. I think, you know, if you think about it, typically the way the product is sold is when you have product growth in four quarters time, that contract or support comes up for renewal. Typically, you would see that in the fifth quarter right after that. Meaning for four quarters, they already are covered, and then at the end of Q4, they have to renew, which goes into the support pool again. Product growing faster will show up in service improving in, you know, four quarters later, roughly, right? That's one dimension of it. The second, I think, is, you know, I think our renewal rate is fine, very stable. I think and we continue to manage, you know, services with customers.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Good question, Anja. I think, you know, if you think about it, typically the way the product is sold is when you have product growth in four quarters time, that contract or support comes up for renewal. Typically, you would see that in the fifth quarter right after that. Meaning for four quarters, they already are covered, and then at the end of Q4, they have to renew, which goes into the support pool again. Product growing faster will show up in service improving in, you know, four quarters later, roughly, right? That's one dimension of it. The second, I think, is, you know, I think our renewal rate is fine, very stable. I think and we continue to manage, you know, services with customers.
Speaker #4: And so typically, you would see that in the fifth quarter, right, after that, meaning for four quarters, they already are covered. And then at the end of fourth quarter, they have to renew, which goes into the support pool again.
Speaker #4: And so product growing faster will show up in service improving in four quarters later, roughly, right? So that's one dimension of it. The second, I think, is I think our renewal rate is fine, very stable.
Speaker #4: I think and we continue to manage services with customers. There is sometimes timing fluctuation a little bit because of large contracts and renewal time and early or late collections and so forth.
Dhrupad Trivedi: There is sometimes timing fluctuation a little bit because of large contracts and renewal time and early or late collections and so forth. But you are correct. It should be a lead indicator for service revenue growing faster in roughly four quarters.
Dhrupad Trivedi: There is sometimes timing fluctuation a little bit because of large contracts and renewal time and early or late collections and so forth. But you are correct. It should be a lead indicator for service revenue growing faster in roughly four quarters.
Speaker #4: So but you are correct. It should be a lead indicator for service revenue growing faster in roughly four quarters.
Speaker #9: Okay. Thank you. And then in the past, you also talked about taking shares from competitors. Have you seen any changes to the competitive dynamics recently, or?
Rachel Smith: Okay. Thank you. In the past, you also said that talked about you're taking shares from competitors. Have you seen any changes to the competitive dynamic recently, or?
Anja Soderstrom: Okay. Thank you. In the past, you also said that talked about you're taking shares from competitors. Have you seen any changes to the competitive dynamic recently, or?
Dhrupad Trivedi: A good question. No, we really have not seen any significant changes since the last quarter or two. I think, you know, I feel confident in, you know, what our trajectory is and what we are doing, because if you look at even our peers and even their recent kind of re-reports or outlook, 10% to 12% is still a little bit north of most of them. We feel, you know, if we continue that and can continue to improve on that as well, we are in, you know, good competitive position. I would say no real change in the dynamics in terms of the specific landscape, yeah.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Good question. So no, we really have not seen any significant changes since the last quarter or two. And I think I feel confident in what our trajectories and what we are doing because if you look at even our peers and even their recent kind of reports or outlook, 10 to 12 percent is still a little bit north of most of them.
Dhrupad Trivedi: A good question. No, we really have not seen any significant changes since the last quarter or two. I think, you know, I feel confident in, you know, what our trajectory is and what we are doing, because if you look at even our peers and even their recent kind of re-reports or outlook, 10% to 12% is still a little bit north of most of them. We feel, you know, if we continue that and can continue to improve on that as well, we are in, you know, good competitive position. I would say no real change in the dynamics in terms of the specific landscape, yeah.
Speaker #4: So we feel if we continue that and can continue to improve on that as well, we are in good competitive position. And no, I would say no real change in the dynamics in terms of the specific landscape here.
Speaker #9: Okay. Thank you. That was all for me.
Rachel Smith: Okay. Thank you. That was all for me.
Anja Soderstrom: Okay. Thank you. That was all for me.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Anya.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you, Anya.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you, Anya.
Speaker #3: Next question comes from Ben Textall with Craig Hallam. Please proceed.
Operator: Next question comes from Ben Taxdahl with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed.
Operator: Next question comes from Ben Taxdahl with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed.
Speaker #10: Hey, guys. I'm on for Christian Schwab here.
[Analyst] (Craig-Hallum): Hey, guys. Aman for Christian Schwab here.
Ben Taxdahl: Hey, guys. Aman for Christian Schwab here.
Speaker #4: Hey, Ben.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Hey, Ben.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Hey, Ben.
Speaker #10: Just a quick question on the 10 to 12 percent reiterated. Is that going to be kind of a step function every quarter, or is it a stronger second half?
[Analyst] (Craig-Hallum): Just a quick question on the 10% to 12% reiterated. Is that gonna be kind of a step function every quarter, or is it a stronger H2? With that, is that tied to just the continued growth and market share gains, or is that concentrated of a few customers?
Ben Taxdahl: Just a quick question on the 10% to 12% reiterated. Is that gonna be kind of a step function every quarter, or is it a stronger H2? With that, is that tied to just the continued growth and market share gains, or is that concentrated of a few customers?
Speaker #10: And then with that, is that tied to just the continued growth in market share gains? Or is that concentrated with a few customers?
Dhrupad Trivedi: No, I think that's a good question. I think it's broad market share, obviously. The reason I think, Ben, we reiterated this here is because we had our Investor Day subsequent to the earnings call in Q1. This is not indicative of a new trend where we will be doing that every quarter. This was just reiterating and recapturing in one place because we had announced that again at the Analyst Day, right? That's the objective and it's not indicative of us saying we'll be guiding every quarter anymore.
Speaker #4: No, I think that's a good question. So I think it's broad market share, obviously. And the reason I think, Ben, we reiterated this here is because we had our investor day subsequent to the earnings call in Q1.
Dhrupad Trivedi: No, I think that's a good question. I think it's broad market share, obviously. The reason I think, Ben, we reiterated this here is because we had our Investor Day subsequent to the earnings call in Q1. This is not indicative of a new trend where we will be doing that every quarter. This was just reiterating and recapturing in one place because we had announced that again at the Analyst Day, right? That's the objective and it's not indicative of us saying we'll be guiding every quarter anymore.
Speaker #4: So this is not indicative of a new trend where we will be doing that every quarter. This was just reiterating and recapturing in one place because we had announced that again at the analyst day, right?
Speaker #4: So that's the objective. And so it's not indicative of us saying we will be guiding every quarter here, so.
Speaker #10: All right. And then just thinking about I believe you guys said it was 12 percent was a long-term target. Is there with legacy decreasing and there's stronger keggers, mid-teens even, was previously stated at investor day.
[Analyst] (Craig-Hallum): All right. Just thinking about I believe you guys said it was 12% was the long-term target. Is there, you know, with legacy decreasing and there's stronger CAGRs, you know, mid-teens even, was previously stated at Investor Day. Is there with those mid-teens CAGRs and legacy down, is there a path to exceed that 12%? Is there anything that you guys think that needs to happen to get there?
Ben Taxdahl: All right. Just thinking about I believe you guys said it was 12% was the long-term target. Is there, you know, with legacy decreasing and there's stronger CAGRs, you know, mid-teens even, was previously stated at Investor Day. Is there with those mid-teens CAGRs and legacy down, is there a path to exceed that 12%? Is there anything that you guys think that needs to happen to get there?
Speaker #10: Is there any way, with those mid-teens CAGRs and legacy down, is there a path to exceed that 12 percent? And is there anything that you guys think needs to happen to get there?
Speaker #4: Yeah, sure. No, I think so. I think the factors—right, I think there's two, and we touched upon one in one of the earlier questions.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah, sure. I think the factors, right, I think there's two, and we touched upon one in one of the earlier questions. Certainly if we see stability in demand and supply, as we go through the year, we will continue to evaluate. I think certainly, AI spending could be one of those factors that helps us improve that in terms of our participation in that spending profile. That's probably evolving, right?
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah, sure. I think the factors, right, I think there's two, and we touched upon one in one of the earlier questions. Certainly if we see stability in demand and supply, as we go through the year, we will continue to evaluate. I think certainly, AI spending could be one of those factors that helps us improve that in terms of our participation in that spending profile. That's probably evolving, right?
Speaker #4: So certainly, if we see stability in demand and supply as we go through the year, we will continue to evaluate. I think certainly, AI spending could be one of those factors that helps us improve that, in terms of our participation in that spending profile.
Speaker #4: So that's probably evolving, right? Obviously, and the second factor was we had talked about the notion of the makeshift. So as we grow next-generation network and security solutions faster than legacy, we are also automatically exposed to higher growth rate markets.
[Analyst] (Craig-Hallum): Mm-hmm.
Ben Taxdahl: Mm-hmm.
Dhrupad Trivedi: The second factor was, we had talked about the notion of the mix shift. As we grow next generation network and security solutions faster than legacy, we are also automatically exposed to higher growth rate markets, right? I think through that evolution, I think we had said obviously, right, more than 12% next year and beyond.
Dhrupad Trivedi: The second factor was, we had talked about the notion of the mix shift. As we grow next generation network and security solutions faster than legacy, we are also automatically exposed to higher growth rate markets, right? I think through that evolution, I think we had said obviously, right, more than 12% next year and beyond.
Speaker #4: Right? So I think through that evolution, I think we had said, obviously, right, more than 12 percent next year, and beyond. So I think the makeshift is helpful in being exposed to higher growth market.
[Analyst] (Craig-Hallum): Mm-hmm.
Ben Taxdahl: Mm-hmm.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I think the mix shift is helpful in being exposed to higher growth market. Second is to the degree that we can get more embedded into AI build-out, whether infrastructure or applications is the second factor, right? Third is long-term, we don't know, but when SP spending resumes more to more normal rates, that obviously helps us, right? We don't need all three, but we need one or two of them, right? To be more confident of raising it immediately.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I think the mix shift is helpful in being exposed to higher growth market. Second is to the degree that we can get more embedded into AI build-out, whether infrastructure or applications is the second factor, right? Third is long-term, we don't know, but when SP spending resumes more to more normal rates, that obviously helps us, right? We don't need all three, but we need one or two of them, right? To be more confident of raising it immediately.
Speaker #4: Second is to the degree that we can get more embedded into AI build-out, whether infrastructure or applications, is the second factor, right? And third is long-term, we don't know, but when SP spending resumes, more to more normal rates, that obviously helps us, right?
Speaker #4: So we don't need all three, but we need one or two of them, right, to be more confident of raising it immediately.
Speaker #10: Great. That's perfect. A lot of my other questions were hit on. Thanks, guys.
[Analyst] (Craig-Hallum): Great. That's perfect. A lot of my other questions were hit on. Thanks, guys.
Ben Taxdahl: Great. That's perfect. A lot of my other questions were hit on. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Ben.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you, Ben.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you, Ben.
Speaker #3: The next question comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Please proceed.
Operator: The next question comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Please proceed.
Speaker #11: Hi, guys. This is Victor in for Simon Leopold. Can you provide some color? Hi, guys. Can you provide some color around the supply chain and kind of memory shortages?
[Analyst] (Raymond James): Hi, guys. This is Victor in for Simon Leopold.
[Analyst] (Raymond James): Hi, guys. This is Victor in for Simon Leopold.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Hey, Victor.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Hey, Victor.
[Analyst] (Raymond James): Hi, guys. Can you provide some color around the supply chain and kind of memory shortages?
[Analyst] (Raymond James): Hi, guys. Can you provide some color around the supply chain and kind of memory shortages?
Speaker #11: You mentioned you observed some impacts around that this quarter. Have you adjusted pricing around this? And if so, how has that impacting kind of the demand dynamics that you're observing?
Dhrupad Trivedi: Mm-hmm.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Mm-hmm.
[Analyst] (Raymond James): You observed some impacts around that this quarter. Have you know, adjusted pricing around this? You know, if so, how is that impacting, kind of the demand dynamics that you're observing?
[Analyst] (Raymond James): You observed some impacts around that this quarter. Have you know, adjusted pricing around this? You know, if so, how is that impacting, kind of the demand dynamics that you're observing?
Speaker #4: Yeah, it's a good question, right? So, I think, obviously, as well-known, the memory is the biggest. There are other component shortages, but certainly the DDR category is most specifically the biggest one.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. It's a good question. I think obviously as well known, the memory is the biggest. There's other component shortages, but certainly sort of the DDR category is the most specifically the biggest one, and we have seen the same price increases. I think it's more than just price increase. It's also lead time and allocation from the suppliers. We absolutely see that phenomenon as well, and we are continuously ensuring that on one hand, obviously driving demand, but on the other hand, also trying to do as much as we can to line up enough supply in the next few quarters. Where it's not expected to get better in, let's say, 4 quarters, maybe at least, maybe more. Absolutely we see the same phenomenon.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Yeah. It's a good question. I think obviously as well known, the memory is the biggest. There's other component shortages, but certainly sort of the DDR category is the most specifically the biggest one, and we have seen the same price increases. I think it's more than just price increase. It's also lead time and allocation from the suppliers. We absolutely see that phenomenon as well, and we are continuously ensuring that on one hand, obviously driving demand, but on the other hand, also trying to do as much as we can to line up enough supply in the next few quarters. Where it's not expected to get better in, let's say, 4 quarters, maybe at least, maybe more. Absolutely we see the same phenomenon.
Speaker #4: And we have seen the same price increases. And I think it's more than just price increase. It's also lead time and allocation, right, from the suppliers.
Speaker #4: So we absolutely see that phenomenon as well. And we are continuously ensuring that on one hand, obviously driving demand, but on the other hand, also trying to do as much as we can to line up enough supply in the next few quarters, right, where it's not expected to get better in, let's say, four quarters, maybe at least, maybe more.
Speaker #4: So absolutely, we see the same phenomenon. All of us use almost the same three or four major memory suppliers, right? And we are navigating it the same in terms of securing supply, managing cost, but also managing our ability to fulfill kind of customer needs.
Dhrupad Trivedi: We all of us use almost the same 3 or 4 major memory suppliers, right? We are navigating it the same in terms of securing supply, managing costs, but also managing our ability to fulfill kind of customer needs. You know, we'll continue to do that, and I think it's obviously something we have to navigate and there's no. As of now, when we say 10% to 12%, that is not an area we are worried about. We can achieve that, and we'll continue to work towards improving that and making it, you know, not be an issue for us. It is certainly a cost issue.
Dhrupad Trivedi: We all of us use almost the same 3 or 4 major memory suppliers, right? We are navigating it the same in terms of securing supply, managing costs, but also managing our ability to fulfill kind of customer needs. You know, we'll continue to do that, and I think it's obviously something we have to navigate and there's no. As of now, when we say 10% to 12%, that is not an area we are worried about. We can achieve that, and we'll continue to work towards improving that and making it, you know, not be an issue for us. It is certainly a cost issue.
Speaker #4: And we'll continue to do that. And I think it's obviously something we have to navigate. And there's no as of now, when we say 10 to 12 percent, that is not an area we are worried about.
Speaker #4: We can achieve that. And we'll continue to work towards improving that and making it not be an issue for us. But it is certainly a cost issue.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I think as we said in the past, we try to split that with customers as much as we can and doesn't always work, and sometimes it does and, you know, we'll continue to navigate that.
Speaker #4: We I think as we said in the past, we try to split that with customers as much as we can. And it doesn't always work.
Dhrupad Trivedi: I think as we said in the past, we try to split that with customers as much as we can and doesn't always work, and sometimes it does and, you know, we'll continue to navigate that.
Speaker #4: And sometimes it does. And we'll continue to navigate that.
Speaker #11: Okay, great. And I think you also mentioned the benefit of timing of some large orders. Was that related to that large enterprise order specifically, or was there maybe some kind of pull-ins that you observed from customers, kind of pulling in orders ahead of these shortages?
[Analyst] (Raymond James): Okay, great. I think you also mentioned the benefit of timing, you know, some large orders. Was that related to that large enterprise order specifically, or was there some kind of pull-ins that maybe you observed from customers kind of, you know, pulling in orders ahead of these shortages?
[Analyst] (Raymond James): Okay, great. I think you also mentioned the benefit of timing, you know, some large orders. Was that related to that large enterprise order specifically, or was there some kind of pull-ins that maybe you observed from customers kind of, you know, pulling in orders ahead of these shortages?
Dhrupad Trivedi: No, no, I don't think it's that. I think it's not. Yeah, good question. It's not a question of, you know, people kind of, overbooking it to book capacity, right? I don't think that's the issue. I think in our case it's more our customers are looking at building out things fast, and we are trying to keep up with them to make sure we get them everything they need. It's more, more of that phenomenon versus, I don't think, at least we don't have a concern around, double bookings and things like that at all, so.
Speaker #4: No, no. I don't think it's that. I think it's not yet. Good question. So it's not a question of people kind of overbooking it to book capacity, right?
Dhrupad Trivedi: No, no, I don't think it's that. I think it's not. Yeah, good question. It's not a question of, you know, people kind of, overbooking it to book capacity, right? I don't think that's the issue. I think in our case it's more our customers are looking at building out things fast, and we are trying to keep up with them to make sure we get them everything they need. It's more, more of that phenomenon versus, I don't think, at least we don't have a concern around, double bookings and things like that at all, so.
Speaker #4: I don't think that's the issue. I think in our case, it's more our customers are looking at building out things fast. And we are trying to keep up with them to make sure we get them everything they need.
Speaker #4: So it's more of that phenomenon versus I don't think at least we don't have a concern around double bookings and things like that at all, so.
Speaker #11: Thank you.
[Analyst] (Raymond James): Thank you.
[Analyst] (Raymond James): Thank you.
Speaker #4: No problem. Thank you.
Dhrupad Trivedi: No problem. Thank you.
Dhrupad Trivedi: No problem. Thank you.
Speaker #3: We have reached the end of the question and answer session. And I will now turn the call over to Drupid Trivedi for a closing remarks.
Operator: We have reached the end of the question and answer session, and I will now turn the call over to Dhrupad Trivedi for closing remarks.
Operator: We have reached the end of the question and answer session, and I will now turn the call over to Dhrupad Trivedi for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thank you. And thank you to all of our employees, customers, and shareholders for joining us today and for your continued support. I am increasingly confident in our strategic orientation with security, and AI infrastructure spending patterns.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you. Thank you to all of our employees, customers, and shareholders for joining us today and for your continued support. I am increasingly confident in our strategic orientation with security and AI infrastructure spending patterns. Thank you for your time and attention.
Dhrupad Trivedi: Thank you. Thank you to all of our employees, customers, and shareholders for joining us today and for your continued support. I am increasingly confident in our strategic orientation with security and AI infrastructure spending patterns. Thank you for your time and attention.
Speaker #4: Thank you for your time and attention.
Operator: This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
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