Q2 2026 Compass Minerals International Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Hello, everyone, thank you for standing by. My name is Ian, I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Compass Minerals Q2 Fiscal 2026 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session.
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Speaker #2: Brent, please go ahead. Thank you, Operator. Good morning and welcome to the COMPASS MINERALS fiscal second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Today, we will discuss our most recent quarterly results, we will begin with prepared remarks from our President and CEO, Edward Dowling, and our CFO, Peter Fjellman, joining in for the question-and-answer portion of the call will be Ben Nichols, our Chief Commercial Officer, and our Chief Operations Officer, Pat Marin.
Brent Collins: Thank you, operator. Good morning. Welcome to the Compass Minerals Fiscal Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Today, we will discuss our most recent quarterly results. We will begin with prepared remarks from our President and CEO, Edward Dowling, and our CFO, Peter Fjellman. Joining in for the question and answer portion of the call will be Ben Nichols, our Chief Commercial Officer, and our Chief Operations Officer, Patrick Merrin. Before we get started, I will remind everyone that the remarks we make today reflect financial and operational outlooks as of today's date, 7 May 2026. These outlooks entail assumptions and expectations that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially. A discussion of these risks can be found in our SEC filings located online at investors.compassminerals.com. Our remarks today also include certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Brent Collins: Thank you, operator. Good morning. Welcome to the Compass Minerals Fiscal Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Today, we will discuss our most recent quarterly results. We will begin with prepared remarks from our President and CEO, Edward Dowling, and our CFO, Peter Fjellman. Joining in for the question and answer portion of the call will be Ben Nichols, our Chief Commercial Officer, and our Chief Operations Officer, Pat Merrin. Before we get started, I will remind everyone that the remarks we make today reflect financial and operational outlooks as of today's date, 7 May 2026.
Speaker #2: Before we get started, I will remind everyone that the remarks we make today reflect financial and operational outlooks as of today's date, May 7, 2026.
Speaker #2: These outlooks entail assumptions and expectations that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially. A discussion of these risks can be found in our SEC filings located online at investors.compassminerals.com.
Brent Collins: These outlooks entail assumptions and expectations that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially. A discussion of these risks can be found in our SEC filings located online at investors.compassminerals.com. Our remarks today also include certain non-GAAP financial measures. You can find reconciliations of these items in our earnings release or in our presentation, both of which are also available online. With that, I will now turn the call over to Ed.
Speaker #2: Our remarks today also include certain non-GAAP financial measures. You can find reconciliations of these items in our earnings release or in our presentation both of which are also available online.
Brent Collins: You can find reconciliations of these items in our earnings release or in our presentation, both of which are also available online. With that, I will now turn the call over to Ed.
Speaker #2: And with that, I will now turn the call over to Ed.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Brent. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'll get right to it. In the second quarter, we retired our remaining $150 million of the 2027 Senior Unsecured Notes earlier than anticipated.
Edward Dowling: Thank you, Brent. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'll get right to it. In Q2, we retired our remaining $150 million of the 2027 senior unsecured notes earlier than anticipated. We continued to push on operational improvements at Goderich and elsewhere. We had a strong winter across much of North America, and our salt business delivered on high level of sale commitments while continuing to build on the foundation we've put in place. We are making progress, and we recognize that we have more work to do. In the plant nutrition, we are showing outstanding momentum of the objectives we outlined two years ago. With the winter season behind us, it's worth looking at how much the H1 of this year has improved from last year.
Edward Dowling: Thank you, Brent. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'll get right to it. In Q2, we retired our remaining $150 million of the 2027 senior unsecured notes earlier than anticipated. We continued to push on operational improvements at Goderich and elsewhere. We had a strong winter across much of North America, and our salt business delivered on high level of sale commitments while continuing to build on the foundation we've put in place. We are making progress, and we recognize that we have more work to do. In the plant nutrition, we are showing outstanding momentum of the objectives we outlined two years ago. With the winter season behind us, it's worth looking at how much the H1 of this year has improved from last year.
Speaker #3: We continue to push on operational improvements at Godrich and elsewhere. We had a strong winter across much of North America, and our salt business delivered on high level of sale commitments while continuing to build on the foundation we've put in place.
Speaker #3: We are making progress, and we recognize that we have more work to do. In the plant nutrition, we are showing outstanding momentum with the objectives we outlined two years ago.
Speaker #3: With the winter season behind us, it's worth looking at how much the first half of this year has improved from last year. In both the salt and plant nutrition businesses, revenues are up.
Edward Dowling: In both the salt and plant nutrition businesses, revenues are up, operating margins are up, EBITDA is up, company-wide debt is down, and SG&A is down. We completed new collective bargaining agreements with two of our sites, including the Goderich mine. That's quite a great start for the year. Now let's talk about what we're doing in each of our businesses. The improvement processes that we've successfully deployed within our SOP business is the same approach that we are using in the salt business, starting with our larger operations. A focus on restoring good long-term operating practice is critical to improving performance. This requires that we focus on key metrics that will drive performance, safety, utilization, equipment availability, production and development rates, and improve mining planning process, all of which are advancing. This is a key part of our back to basics framework.
Edward Dowling: In both the salt and plant nutrition businesses, revenues are up, operating margins are up, EBITDA is up, company-wide debt is down, and SG&A is down. We completed new collective bargaining agreements with two of our sites, including the Goderich mine. That's quite a great start for the year. Now let's talk about what we're doing in each of our businesses. The improvement processes that we've successfully deployed within our SOP business is the same approach that we are using in the salt business, starting with our larger operations. A focus on restoring good long-term operating practice is critical to improving performance. This requires that we focus on key metrics that will drive performance, safety, utilization, equipment availability, production and development rates, and improve mining planning process, all of which are advancing. This is a key part of our back to basics framework.
Speaker #3: Operating margins are up. EBITDA is up. Company-wide debt is down, and SG&A is down. And we completed new collecting bargain agreements with two of our sites, including the Godrich mine.
Speaker #3: That's quite a great start for the year. Now let's talk about what we're doing in each of our businesses. The improvement processes that we've successfully deployed within our SOP business is the same approach that we are using in the salt business.
Speaker #3: Starting with our larger operations, a focus on restoring good long-term operating practice is critical to improving performance. This requires that we focus on key metrics that will drive performance.
Speaker #3: Safety, utilization, equipment availability, production, and development rates and improve mining planning process, all of which are advancing. This is a key part of our back-to-basics framework.
Speaker #3: Production costs per ton in the salt business moved up year over year, and I want to explain why. The reported number reflects several factors, regional weather activity, the product mix, the pace of our operational improvements.
Edward Dowling: Production costs per ton in the salt business moved up year over year. I wanna explain why. The reported number reflects several factors: regional weather activity, the product mix, the pace of our operational improvements. During the quarter, we began selling production from the current year's production, which flows through the P&L. While the production costs per ton within the mines are improving, we've not yet met the efficiency gains we've expected. Pete will walk you through this in more detail. As I noted earlier, we recently completed a new CBA with our workforce at Goderich. It was a fair agreement for everyone. It reflects a genuine partnership between the company and our workforce. This mutually beneficial arrangement allows us to continue building on the safe, reliable operation while allowing us to the mine's efficiency and flexibility.
Edward Dowling: Production costs per ton in the salt business moved up year over year. I wanna explain why. The reported number reflects several factors: regional weather activity, the product mix, the pace of our operational improvements. During the quarter, we began selling production from the current year's production, which flows through the P&L. While the production costs per ton within the mines are improving, we've not yet met the efficiency gains we've expected. Pete will walk you through this in more detail. As I noted earlier, we recently completed a new CBA with our workforce at Goderich. It was a fair agreement for everyone. It reflects a genuine partnership between the company and our workforce. This mutually beneficial arrangement allows us to continue building on the safe, reliable operation while allowing us to the mine's efficiency and flexibility.
Speaker #3: During the quarter, we began selling production from the current year's production. Which flows through the P&L. While the production cost per ton within the mines are improving, we've not yet met the efficiency gains we've expected.
Speaker #3: Peter will walk you through this in more detail. As I noted earlier, we recently completed a new CBA with a workforce at Godrich. It was a fair agreement for everyone, reflecting genuine partnership between the company and our workforce.
Speaker #3: This mutually beneficial arrangement allows us to continue building on the safe, reliable operation while allowing us to use the mines' efficiency and flexibility. We've also concluded CBA at another site in the process of completing negotiation at others.
Edward Dowling: We've also concluded CBA at another site in the process of completing negotiation at others. While the Highway Deicing season is behind us, our focus turns to building inventory and preparing for next year's Deicing bid season. Our production and inventory planning will be informed in part by the commitments we win in the upcoming bid season. The North American Highway Deicing market remains structurally tight. Inventories across the system are low following the past winter, which is constructive from both the pricing and tender size growth. We're moving into the bid season within this framework firmly in mind. We'll be focused on maximizing the value of every ton we commit for the next season.
Edward Dowling: We've also concluded CBA at another site in the process of completing negotiation at others. While the Highway Deicing season is behind us, our focus turns to building inventory and preparing for next year's Deicing bid season. Our production and inventory planning will be informed in part by the commitments we win in the upcoming bid season. The North American Highway Deicing market remains structurally tight. Inventories across the system are low following the past winter, which is constructive from both the pricing and tender size growth. We're moving into the bid season within this framework firmly in mind. We'll be focused on maximizing the value of every ton we commit for the next season.
Speaker #3: While the highway de-icing season is behind us, our focus turns to building inventory and preparing for next year's de-icing bid season. Our production and inventory planning will be informed in part by the commitments we win in the upcoming bid season.
Speaker #3: The North American highway de-icing market remains structurally tight. Emperatories across the system are low, following the past winter, which has constructed from both the pricing and tender-sized growth.
Speaker #3: We're moving into the bid season within this framework firmly in mind. We'll be focused on maximizing the value of every ton we commit for the next season.
Speaker #3: The market conditions are constructive, and we'll approach the upcoming bid season with the same discipline that we've brought to the market in recent years that has allowed us to see growth in pricing and margins.
Edward Dowling: The market conditions are constructive, and we'll approach the upcoming bid season with the same discipline that we've brought to the market in recent years that has allowed us to see growth in pricing and margins. Based on our H1 performance, the current operational plans, we've updated our full-year Adjusted EBITDA guidance within the midpoint, essentially unchanged. We have adjusted the segment outlook. Plant nutrition is running ahead, and we have moderated Salt to reflect the impact of regional product mix sales as well as the pace of operational improvements I described earlier. Peter will walk you through the updated ranges. Consistent with our back to basics framework, as announced earlier this year, we simplified our portfolio with the sale of our Wynyard SOP operation, which was completed during the quarter. The sale strengthened our cash position and now allows Plant nutrition business to focus on our world-class Ogden facility.
Edward Dowling: The market conditions are constructive, and we'll approach the upcoming bid season with the same discipline that we've brought to the market in recent years that has allowed us to see growth in pricing and margins. Based on our H1 performance, the current operational plans, we've updated our full-year Adjusted EBITDA guidance within the midpoint, essentially unchanged. We have adjusted the segment outlook. Plant nutrition is running ahead, and we have moderated Salt to reflect the impact of regional product mix sales as well as the pace of operational improvements I described earlier. Peter will walk you through the updated ranges. Consistent with our back to basics framework, as announced earlier this year, we simplified our portfolio with the sale of our Wynyard SOP operation, which was completed during the quarter. The sale strengthened our cash position and now allows Plant nutrition business to focus on our world-class Ogden facility.
Speaker #3: Based on our first-half performance, the current operational plans, we've updated our full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance within the midpoint and sessionally unchanged. We have adjusted the segment outlook.
Speaker #3: Plant nutrition is running ahead. We have moderated salt to reflect the impact of regional product mix sales as well as the pace of operational improvements I described earlier.
Speaker #3: Peter will walk you through the updated ranges. Consistent weather back-to-basics framework, as announced earlier this year, we simplified our portfolio with the sale of our wind yard SOP operation, which was completed during the quarter.
Speaker #3: The sales strengthened our cash position, and now allows plant nutrition business to focus on our world-class Ogden facility. Turning to the balance sheet, at the end of March, we redeemed a remaining $150 million of our 2027 Senior Unsecured Notes.
Edward Dowling: Turning to the balance sheet, at the end of March, we redeemed the remaining $150 million of our 2027 senior unsecured notes. We funded the pay down from cash on hand and removed our nearest maturity. This represents a significant deleveraging milestone and provides us with more financial flexibility. Reducing debt remains one of our top priorities and strengthening our balance sheet as a result. This is what investors expect, and it's what we're doing. Before I hand it over to Peter, I want to briefly note the recent changes to our board. We've added four new directors over the past year. Each brings deep knowledge and relevant experience in the industrial and manufacturing businesses, some of which have direct experience in salt and plant nutrition industries.
Edward Dowling: Turning to the balance sheet, at the end of March, we redeemed the remaining $150 million of our 2027 senior unsecured notes. We funded the pay down from cash on hand and removed our nearest maturity. This represents a significant deleveraging milestone and provides us with more financial flexibility. Reducing debt remains one of our top priorities and strengthening our balance sheet as a result. This is what investors expect, and it's what we're doing. Before I hand it over to Peter, I want to briefly note the recent changes to our board. We've added four new directors over the past year. Each brings deep knowledge and relevant experience in the industrial and manufacturing businesses, some of which have direct experience in salt and plant nutrition industries.
Speaker #3: We funded the paydown from cash on hand and removed our nearest maturity. This represents a significantly leveraging milestone and provides us with more financial flexibility.
Speaker #3: Reducing debt remains one of our top priorities, and strengthening our balance sheet as a result. This is what investors expect, and it's what we're doing.
Speaker #3: Before I hand it over to Peter, I want to briefly note the recent changes to our board. We've added four new directors over the past year.
Speaker #3: Each brings deep knowledge and relevant experience in the industrial and manufacturing businesses. Some of which have direct experience in salt and plant nutrition industries.
Speaker #3: The board is aligned with our strategy and brings the operating and financial expertise we need for this phase of the company's development. With that, I'll turn it over to Peter to walk you through the numbers and our outlook.
Edward Dowling: The board is aligned with our strategy and brings operating and financial expertise we need for this phase of the company's development. With that, I'll turn the call over to Peter to walk you through the numbers and our outlook.
Edward Dowling: The board is aligned with our strategy and brings operating and financial expertise we need for this phase of the company's development. With that, I'll turn the call over to Peter to walk you through the numbers and our outlook.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Ed. I'll walk through our financial results as well as our updated outlook. For the second quarter of fiscal 2026, consolidated revenue was $453 million, down $41 million, or 8% versus prior year Q2.
Peter Fjellman: Thanks, Ed. I'll walk through our financial results as well as our updated outlook. For Q2 of fiscal 2026, consolidated revenue was $453 million, down $41 million or 8% versus prior year Q2. The decrease is primarily due to lower Highway Deicing sales in the current quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $86 million compared to $84 million in the prior year Q2, or up 3.3% over prior year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 19.1% compared to 17.0% in the prior year. The improvement reflects Adjusted EBITDA margin growth in both the salt and the plant nutrition business, as well as lower SG&A expense year over year. In the salt business, revenue was $383 million compared to $433 million in the prior year in Q2.
Peter Fjellman: Thanks, Ed. I'll walk through our financial results as well as our updated outlook. For Q2 of fiscal 2026, consolidated revenue was $453 million, down $41 million or 8% versus prior year Q2. The decrease is primarily due to lower Highway Deicing sales in the current quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $86 million compared to $84 million in the prior year Q2, or up 3.3% over prior year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 19.1% compared to 17.0% in the prior year. The improvement reflects Adjusted EBITDA margin growth in both the salt and the plant nutrition business, as well as lower SG&A expense year over year. In the salt business, revenue was $383 million compared to $433 million in the prior year in Q2.
Speaker #2: The decrease is primarily due to lower highway de-icing sales in the current quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $86 million, compared to $84 million in the prior year Q2, or up 3.3% over prior year.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA margin was $19.1%, compared to $17.0% in the prior year. The improvement reflects adjusted EBITDA margin growth in both the salt and the plant nutrition business, as well as lower SG&A expense year over year.
Speaker #2: In the salt business, revenue was $383 million, compared to $433 million in the prior year. Q2. Ton sold were $4.1 million, down 19% versus prior year, which is a function of timing and velocity of the winter weather.
Peter Fjellman: Tons sold were 4.1 million, down 19% versus prior year, which is a function of timing and velocity of the winter weather. On a per ton basis, operating earnings were $15.85 per ton, up 21% versus $13.10 per ton in the prior year Q2. The per ton progression reflects price realization offset partially by increased distribution and product costs. As Ed Dowling mentioned, the sales mix dynamic in Q2 warrants some additional commentary. Our salt business serves customers and end users across several businesses from multiple production facilities across different geographies. In any given year, the volume each facility contributes depends significantly on where winter weather occurs. With different price and cost structures, volume shifts in a given season can impact comparably.
Peter Fjellman: Tons sold were 4.1 million, down 19% versus prior year, which is a function of timing and velocity of the winter weather. On a per ton basis, operating earnings were $15.85 per ton, up 21% versus $13.10 per ton in the prior year Q2. The per ton progression reflects price realization offset partially by increased distribution and product costs. As Ed Dowling mentioned, the sales mix dynamic in Q2 warrants some additional commentary. Our salt business serves customers and end users across several businesses from multiple production facilities across different geographies. In any given year, the volume each facility contributes depends significantly on where winter weather occurs. With different price and cost structures, volume shifts in a given season can impact comparably.
Speaker #2: On a per-ton basis, operating earnings were $15.85 per ton, up 21% versus $13.10 per ton in the prior year Q2. The per-ton progression reflects price realization offset partially by increased distribution and product costs.
Speaker #2: As Ed mentioned, the sales mix dynamic in Q2 warrants some additional commentary. Our salt business serves customers and end users across several businesses from multiple production facilities across different geographies.
Speaker #2: In any given year, the volume each facility contributes depends significantly on where winter weather occurs. With different price and cost structures, volume shifts in a given season can impact comparably.
Speaker #2: So, the reported cost per ton reflects three things: the geographic mix driven by weather, product mix, and the production cost dynamics at the facility level.
Peter Fjellman: The reported cost per ton reflects three things: the geographic mix driven by weather, product mix, and the production cost dynamics at the facility level. In the Plant Nutrition segment, revenue was $67 million compared to $58 million in the prior year Q2. Adjusted EBITDA was $17 million, up 202% year over year, with the Adjusted EBITDA margin improving to 25.2% in the current quarter from only 9.6% a year ago. I want to note that we closed on the sale of our SOP operations at Wynyard during the quarter. Q2 2026 only reflects the partial contribution from that asset prior to the sale, which makes the year-over-year comparison even more impressive. The operating story continues to be strong. We are achieving year-over-year cost favorability from better operational execution and strong asset utilization.
Peter Fjellman: The reported cost per ton reflects three things: the geographic mix driven by weather, product mix, and the production cost dynamics at the facility level. In the Plant Nutrition segment, revenue was $67 million compared to $58 million in the prior year Q2. Adjusted EBITDA was $17 million, up 202% year over year, with the Adjusted EBITDA margin improving to 25.2% in the current quarter from only 9.6% a year ago. I want to note that we closed on the sale of our SOP operations at Wynyard during the quarter. Q2 2026 only reflects the partial contribution from that asset prior to the sale, which makes the year-over-year comparison even more impressive. The operating story continues to be strong. We are achieving year-over-year cost favorability from better operational execution and strong asset utilization.
Speaker #2: In the plant nutrition segment, revenue was $67 million, compared to $58 million in the prior year Q2. Adjusted EBITDA was $17 million, up 202% year over year, with the adjusted EBITDA margin improving to 25.2% in the current quarter from only 9.6% a year ago.
Speaker #2: I want to note that we closed on the sale of our SOP operations at Winyard during the quarter. Q2 26 only reflects the partial contribution from that asset prior to the sale, which makes the year-over-year comparison even more impressive.
Speaker #2: The augmentory continues to be strong. We're achieving year-over-year cost favorability from better operational execution and strong asset utilization. On a year-to-date basis, first-half adjusted EBITDA was $152 million, compared to $116 million in the first half of last year, a 32% increase year over year.
Peter Fjellman: On a year-to-date basis, H1 Adjusted EBITDA was $152 million compared to $116 million in H1 of last year, a 32% increase year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margin for H1 of the year was 17.9% compared to 14.5% for H1 a year ago. These combined results show that the plan we put in place is working. We are working hard to maximize value, control cost, and manage working capital and inventory. The result is that we are enhancing profitability and delevering the balance sheet simultaneously. Switching to the balance sheet, as Ed noted, we redeemed the remaining $150 million of our 2027 senior unsecured notes. The redemption, which was funded from cash, extends our maturity profile and delevers the balance sheet.
Peter Fjellman: On a year-to-date basis, H1 Adjusted EBITDA was $152 million compared to $116 million in H1 of last year, a 32% increase year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margin for H1 of the year was 17.9% compared to 14.5% for H1 a year ago. These combined results show that the plan we put in place is working. We are working hard to maximize value, control cost, and manage working capital and inventory. The result is that we are enhancing profitability and delevering the balance sheet simultaneously. Switching to the balance sheet, as Ed noted, we redeemed the remaining $150 million of our 2027 senior unsecured notes. The redemption, which was funded from cash, extends our maturity profile and delevers the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA margin for the first half of the year was $17.9%, compared to $14.5% for the first half a year ago. These combined results show that the plan we put in place is working.
Speaker #2: We are working hard to maximize value, control cost, and manage working capital and inventory. And the result is that we are enhancing profitability and de-levering the balance sheet simultaneously.
Speaker #2: Switching to the balance sheet, as Ed noted, we redeemed the remaining $150 million of our 2027 Senior Unsecured Notes. The redemption which was funded from cash extends our maturity profile and de-leverage the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: We also renewed our accounts receivable securitization facility during the quarter on improved terms. Combined with the retirement of the 2027 notes, our significant debt maturity is now in 2028.
Peter Fjellman: We also renewed our accounts receivable securitization facility during the quarter on improved terms. Combined with the retirement of the 2027 notes, our significant debt maturity is now in 2028, which gives us meaningful runway to continue executing on our operational priorities without near-term refinancing pressure. At quarter end, total net debt was $639 million, down $119 million versus Q2 prior year. Our leverage ratio was 2.7x on a trailing twelve-month basis compared to 4.6x last year. We are focused on continuing to strengthen that balance sheet. Liquidity at the quarter end was $379 million, comprised of cash of $74 million and revolver capacity of around $305 million.
Peter Fjellman: We also renewed our accounts receivable securitization facility during the quarter on improved terms. Combined with the retirement of the 2027 notes, our significant debt maturity is now in 2028, which gives us meaningful runway to continue executing on our operational priorities without near-term refinancing pressure. At quarter end, total net debt was $639 million, down $119 million versus Q2 prior year. Our leverage ratio was 2.7x on a trailing twelve-month basis compared to 4.6x last year. We are focused on continuing to strengthen that balance sheet. Liquidity at the quarter end was $379 million, comprised of cash of $74 million and revolver capacity of around $305 million.
Speaker #2: Which gives us meaningful runway to continue executing on our operational priorities without near-term refinancing pressure. At quarter end, total net debt was $639 million, down 119 million versus Q2 prior year.
Speaker #2: Our leverage ratio was 2.7 times on a trailing 12-month basis, compared to 4.6 times last year. We are focused on continuing to strengthen that balance sheet.
Speaker #2: Liquidity at quarter-end was $379 million, comprised of cash of $74 million and revolver capacity of around $305 million. We are updating our full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance range to $212 million to $236 million, with a midpoint of $224 million.
Peter Fjellman: We are updating our full year Adjusted EBITDA guidance range of $212 million to $236 million with a midpoint of $224 million. We have adjusted salt segment outlook. The midpoint is now $233 million compared to the previous midpoint of $241 million. The adjustment reflects the factors I mentioned above. Plant Nutrition Adjusted EBITDA is now $43 million to $47 million, compared with the midpoint of $45 million, up from the prior midpoint. Volumes are up, pricing is favorable, and Ogden is delivering strong cost performance. This is a straightforward story and a reflection of the commitment we made 2 years ago to restore the business to historical levels of financial performance. The range of our corporate Adjusted EBITDA, capital expenditures, depreciation, depletion, and amortization, and the effective income tax rate remain unchanged.
Peter Fjellman: We are updating our full year Adjusted EBITDA guidance range of $212 million to $236 million with a midpoint of $224 million. We have adjusted salt segment outlook. The midpoint is now $233 million compared to the previous midpoint of $241 million. The adjustment reflects the factors I mentioned above. Plant Nutrition Adjusted EBITDA is now $43 million to $47 million, compared with the midpoint of $45 million, up from the prior midpoint. Volumes are up, pricing is favorable, and Ogden is delivering strong cost performance. This is a straightforward story and a reflection of the commitment we made 2 years ago to restore the business to historical levels of financial performance. The range of our corporate Adjusted EBITDA, capital expenditures, depreciation, depletion, and amortization, and the effective income tax rate remain unchanged.
Speaker #2: We have adjusted the salt segment outlook; the midpoint is now $233 million, compared to the previous midpoint of $241 million. The adjustment reflects the factors I mentioned above.
Speaker #2: Plant nutrition adjusted EBITDA is now $43 million to $47 million, compared with a midpoint of $45 million, up from the prior midpoint. Volumes are up.
Speaker #2: Pricing is favorable, and augment is delivering strong cost performance. This is a straightforward story, and the reflection of the commitment we made two years ago to restore the business to historical levels of financial performance.
Speaker #2: The range of our corporate adjusted EBITDA, capital expenditures, depreciation, depletion, and amortization and the effective income tax rate remain unchanged. Interest expense net is now lower at $62 to $67 million, to reflect the pay down of the 2027 Senior Unsecured Notes.
Peter Fjellman: Interest expense net is now lower at $62 to 67 million to reflect the pay down of the 2027 senior unsecured notes. Operator, we're now ready for questions.
Peter Fjellman: Interest expense net is now lower at $62 to 67 million to reflect the pay down of the 2027 senior unsecured notes. Operator, we're now ready for questions.
Speaker #2: Operator, we're now ready for questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. And please limit your questions to one question and one follow-up.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Please limit your questions to one question and one follow-up. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Joel Jackson with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is opened.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Please limit your questions to one question and one follow-up. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Joel Jackson with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is opened.
Speaker #1: We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Joel Jackson, with BMO Capital Markets.
Speaker #1: Your line is opened.
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Hi there. Good morning. It's Evan on for Joel. Thank you for taking my question. Just a couple here. If you could talk about what we can expect from salt costs over the next couple of years, before the potential mill project comes online at Goderich.
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Hi there. Good morning. It's Evan on for Joel. Thank you for taking my question. Just a couple here. If you could talk about what we can expect from salt costs over the next couple of years, before the potential mill project comes online at Goderich.
Speaker #3: Hi there. Good morning. It's Evan on for Joel. Thank you for taking my question. Just a couple here. If you could talk about what we can expect from salt costs over the next couple of years, before the potential no project comes online at Godrich.
Speaker #2: Good morning, Joel. We don't generally guide on costs, but as we work our way through our operational improvements, those unit costs, set in mind, should continue to decrease.
Edward Dowling: Good morning, Joel. You know, we don't generally guide on costs, but, you know, as we work our way through our operational improvements, those unit costs at the mine should continue to decrease from where we are now and to really our performance at the mine. If you look at some of the key KPIs reaching a point, period to four, not done at the mine. We need to do that because we're still facing headwinds with regard to where we sit in the mine plan.
Edward Dowling: Good morning, Joel. You know, we don't generally guide on costs, but, you know, as we work our way through our operational improvements, those unit costs at the mine should continue to decrease from where we are now and to really our performance at the mine. If you look at some of the key KPIs reaching a point, period to four, not done at the mine. We need to do that because we're still facing headwinds with regard to where we sit in the mine plan.
Speaker #2: From where we are now and to really our performance at the mind, if you look at it in some of the key KPIs, reaching a point here to four, not done at the mind.
Speaker #2: We need to do that because we're still facing headwinds with regard to where we sit in the mind plan.
Speaker #3: Great. Thanks. And in the four-year guide for this year, in salt specifically, you raised volumes, but you lowered your margins. Can you talk about some of the plus and takes there?
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Great. Thanks. In the full year guide for this year, in salt specifically, you raised volumes, but you lowered your margins. Can you talk about some of the puts and takes there? I understand some issues at Goderich, but you're also raising the volume, so just some color on that would be great.
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Great. Thanks. In the full year guide for this year, in salt specifically, you raised volumes, but you lowered your margins. Can you talk about some of the puts and takes there? I understand some issues at Goderich, but you're also raising the volume, so just some color on that would be great.
Speaker #3: I understand some issues at Goderich, but you're also raising the volume. So just some color on that would be great.
Speaker #2: Yeah, let me just pass that off to Peter. That's great.
Edward Dowling: Yeah. Let me just pass that off to Peter. That's great.
Edward Dowling: Yeah. Let me just pass that off to Peter. That's great.
Speaker #4: Sure. Thanks for the question. Right. The overall, it's really coming down to the reported cost per ton, reflects those three things that we mentioned in our opening comments.
Peter Fjellman: Sure. Thanks for the question. Right. Overall, it is really coming down to the reported cost per ton reflects those 3 things that we mentioned in our opening comments. It is geographic mix, it is production dynamics at a facility level, and product mix. This year, it is simply that the heavier winter proportion of winter sales hit into our served markets, including limited winter impact out west and volume and higher costs served markets, as well as kinda mix within our CNI business, always carry different cost profiles. Our guidance is updated to reflect basically those factors.
Peter Fjellman: Sure. Thanks for the question. Right. Overall, it is really coming down to the reported cost per ton reflects those 3 things that we mentioned in our opening comments. It is geographic mix, it is production dynamics at a facility level, and product mix. This year, it is simply that the heavier winter proportion of winter sales hit into our served markets, including limited winter impact out west and volume and higher costs served markets, as well as kinda mix within our CNI business, always carry different cost profiles. Our guidance is updated to reflect basically those factors.
Speaker #4: It is geographic mixed. It is production dynamics at a facility level and product mix. And this year, it's simply that the heavier winter proportion of winter sales hit into our served markets, including limited winter impact out west and volume and higher cost served markets.
Speaker #4: As well as kind of mixed within our CNI business. Always carry different cost profiles. So our guidance is updated to reflect basically those factors.
Speaker #3: Perfect. Thanks, guys. Sneak one more in. I know it's early, but are you seeing any specific trends in the bid season coming up in terms of volumes and bids and prices for the rock salt bid season?
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Thanks. Can I sneak one more in? I know it's early, but are you seeing any specific trends in the bid season coming up in terms of volumes and bids and prices and for the rock salt bid season? Any color on-
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Thanks. Can I sneak one more in? I know it's early, but are you seeing any specific trends in the bid season coming up in terms of volumes and bids and prices and for the rock salt bid season? Any color on-
Speaker #3: And any color on channel inventories?
Edward Dowling: Yes
Edward Dowling: Yes
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): channel inventories?
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): channel inventories?
Edward Dowling: Yeah. You know, Joel, thanks for the question. You know, it is early days in the bid season here for us, very early days, but as we said before, we expect the market to be constructive. We are focused, you know, that said, you know, our primary focus is always value over volume, and we are focused on maximizing value on every ton of production across all of our facilities. I will have much better visibility to this and be able to report on it at our Q3 earnings call.
Edward Dowling: Yeah. You know, Joel, thanks for the question. You know, it is early days in the bid season here for us, very early days, but as we said before, we expect the market to be constructive. We are focused, you know, that said, you know, our primary focus is always value over volume, and we are focused on maximizing value on every ton of production across all of our facilities. I will have much better visibility to this and be able to report on it at our Q3 earnings call.
Speaker #2: Yeah. So Joel, thanks for the question. It's early days in the bid season here for us, very early days. But as we said before, we expect the market to be constructive and we're focused.
Speaker #2: That said, our primary focus is always value over volume. And we're focused on maximizing value on every ton of production across all of our to this and be able to report on it in our Q3 earnings call.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Thank you.
[Analyst] (BMO Capital Markets): Thank you.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from the line of David Silver, with Freedom Capital Markets. Your line is opened.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of David Silver with Freedom Capital Markets. Your line is opened.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of David Silver with Freedom Capital Markets. Your line is opened.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Hi. Thank you. I guess I would like to follow up maybe on Ed's comments in the press release where I'm just going to quote you, but you said, "We know we still have we know what we have to do.
David Silver: Yeah. Hi. Thank you. I guess I would like to follow up maybe on Ed's comments in the press release where, you know, I'm just gonna quote you, but you said, quote, unquote, you know, We know what we have to do. We still have work to do, in terms of addressing salt mine production efficiency. Could you just kind of highlight, you know, what, you know, what's included in quote, unquote, you know, the work that you need, the work that you have to do there?
David Silver: Yeah. Hi. Thank you. I guess I would like to follow up maybe on Ed's comments in the press release where, you know, I'm just gonna quote you, but you said, quote, unquote, you know, We know what we have to do. We still have work to do, in terms of addressing salt mine production efficiency. Could you just kind of highlight, you know, what, you know, what's included in quote, unquote, you know, the work that you need, the work that you have to do there?
Speaker #5: We still have work to do." In terms of addressing salt mine production efficiency, could you just kind of highlight what's included in "the work that you have to do" there?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Thanks, David. Appreciate the question. This is really core to what we're really focused on in the company. It's really driving our costs everywhere, not just at Godrich, but everywhere into more competitive position.
Edward Dowling: Thanks, David, appreciate the question. This is really core to what we're really focused on in the company, is really driving our costs everywhere, not just at Goderich, but everywhere into a more competitive position. These are things like, you know, improving maintenance practices so that we can improve the availability of the equipment to actually run more hours in the day and actually take advantage of that through our utilization. We're seeing really good inputs on that kind of elimination of waste, improvements in our mine planning efforts and other things. We've got a handful of teams underway working on this very diligently, and there's more to come here. Later this month, we'll be commissioning a bunch of other teams to really tackle some really great enterprise opportunities for us.
Edward Dowling: Thanks, David, appreciate the question. This is really core to what we're really focused on in the company, is really driving our costs everywhere, not just at Goderich, but everywhere into a more competitive position. These are things like, you know, improving maintenance practices so that we can improve the availability of the equipment to actually run more hours in the day and actually take advantage of that through our utilization. We're seeing really good inputs on that kind of elimination of waste, improvements in our mine planning efforts and other things. We've got a handful of teams underway working on this very diligently, and there's more to come here. Later this month, we'll be commissioning a bunch of other teams to really tackle some really great enterprise opportunities for us.
Speaker #2: And these are things like improving maintenance practices, so that we can improve the availability of the equipment to actually run more hours in the day and actually take advantage of that through our utilization, we're seeing really good inputs on that, kind of elimination of waste.
Speaker #2: Improvements in our mind planning efforts and other things. We've got a handful of teams underway working on this, very diligently. And there's more to come here.
Speaker #2: Later this month, we'll be commissioning a bunch of other teams to really tackle some really great enterprise opportunities for us. Let me just ask Pat if there's anything else you'd like to add to that.
Edward Dowling: Let me just ask Pat if there's anything else you'd like to add to that.
Edward Dowling: Let me just ask Pat if there's anything else you'd like to add to that.
Speaker #3: No. Hi, David. This is Pat. I think Ed's hit those points well. We're focused on the basic fundamentals of how mines operate. And that comes down to at Godrich, are the machines getting fixed and are they available?
Patrick Merrin: Hi, David. This is Patrick Merrin. I think Edward Dowling's hit those points well. We're focused on the basic fundamentals of how mines operate. That comes down to, you know, at Goderich, are the machines getting fixed and are they available? Are we using them, are we using them the way we should be? Optimization of our mine planning process, all of which has been underway for a year or so. We're seeing benefits of that. They're just not coming in as quickly as we would have liked. The improvements are continuing.
Pat Merrin: Hi, David. This is Patrick Merrin. I think Edward Dowling's hit those points well. We're focused on the basic fundamentals of how mines operate. That comes down to, you know, at Goderich, are the machines getting fixed and are they available? Are we using them, are we using them the way we should be? Optimization of our mine planning process, all of which has been underway for a year or so. We're seeing benefits of that. They're just not coming in as quickly as we would have liked. The improvements are continuing.
Speaker #3: Are we using them? And are we using them the way we should be? And then optimization of our mind planning process to all of which has been underway for a year or so.
Speaker #3: And so we're seeing benefits of that. They're just not coming in as quickly as we would have liked. But the improvements are continuing.
Edward Dowling: Yeah. Thanks for that, Pat. You know, we are seeing, you know, some really great shoots coming up from this effort. Feel pretty good about that and, you know, we'll be reporting more and more on this as time goes by.
Edward Dowling: Yeah. Thanks for that, Pat. You know, we are seeing, you know, some really great shoots coming up from this effort. Feel pretty good about that and, you know, we'll be reporting more and more on this as time goes by.
Speaker #2: Yes. Thanks for that, Pat. We are seeing some really great shoots coming up from this effort. Feel pretty good about that. And we'll be reporting more and more on this as time goes by.
Speaker #5: And then if I could just follow up on your comments about the new collective bargaining agreements and in particular, I'm going to ask you well, whatever is most important, but I was thinking Godrich first.
David Silver: If I could just follow up on your comments about the new collective bargaining agreements, and in particular, Well, whatever's most important, but I was thinking Goderich first. In particular, I know that over a longer period of time, you know, there has been some meaningful changes in how, you know, you go about things and allocate labor, you know, at the mine. Does the current collective bargaining agreement that you highlighted, does that include any greater flexibility on your part in terms of how you can deploy, you know, labor and equipment, you know, just in the normal day-to-day operation of Goderich? Thank you.
David Silver: If I could just follow up on your comments about the new collective bargaining agreements, and in particular, Well, whatever's most important, but I was thinking Goderich first. In particular, I know that over a longer period of time, you know, there has been some meaningful changes in how, you know, you go about things and allocate labor, you know, at the mine. Does the current collective bargaining agreement that you highlighted, does that include any greater flexibility on your part in terms of how you can deploy, you know, labor and equipment, you know, just in the normal day-to-day operation of Goderich? Thank you.
Speaker #5: And in particular, I know that over a longer period of time, there has been some meaningful changes in how you go about things and allocate labor at the mine.
Speaker #5: Does the current collective bargaining agreement that you highlighted, does that include any greater flexibility on your part in terms of how you can deploy labor and equipment just in the normal day-to-day operation of Godrich?
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Yeah, the simple answer to that is yes. It's a mutually beneficial agreement, and we're all incented, including the workforce, to improve performance. Let me pass it off to Pat and he can give you a little more color on that.
Edward Dowling: Yeah. The simple answer to that is yes. It's a mutually beneficial agreement, and we're all incented, including the workforce, to improve performance. Let me pass it off to Pat. He can give you a little more color on that. We wanna keep this pretty high level.
Edward Dowling: Yeah. The simple answer to that is yes. It's a mutually beneficial agreement, and we're all incented, including the workforce, to improve performance. Let me pass it off to Pat. He can give you a little more color on that. We wanna keep this pretty high level.
Speaker #2: But we want to keep this pretty high level.
Patrick Merrin: Yeah. David, we can't get too far into the details, but what I will say is that we have spent a lot of time over the last 18 months or so working on the relationship with our union, which has improved dramatically. I think the CBA reflects our desire and their desire to see the site succeed. You know, we're looking forward to continuing to work with, you know, our workforce in driving improvements from safety, costs, and tonnage. We think the CBA is gonna allow us to do that.
Pat Merrin: Yeah. David, we can't get too far into the details, but what I will say is that we have spent a lot of time over the last 18 months or so working on the relationship with our union, which has improved dramatically. I think the CBA reflects our desire and their desire to see the site succeed. You know, we're looking forward to continuing to work with, you know, our workforce in driving improvements from safety, costs, and tonnage. We think the CBA is gonna allow us to do that.
Speaker #3: Yeah. David, we can't get too far into the details. But what I will say is that we have spent a lot of time over the last 18 months or so working on the relationship with our union.
Speaker #3: Which has improved dramatically. And I think the CBA reflects our desire and their desire to see the site succeed. And we're looking forward to continuing to work with our workforce in driving improvements from safety, costs, and tonnage.
Speaker #3: And we think the CBA is going to allow us to do that.
Speaker #5: Okay, and I appreciate you keeping it high level. One last question for me, and it would be regarding Ogden and the very strong improvement there on your SOP business.
David Silver: Okay. I appreciate you keeping it high level. One last question from me. It would be regarding, you know, Ogden and the very strong, you know, improvement there on your SOP business. When I look at the results, I mean, there's a number of highlights, I'm just kinda scratching my head and wondering, is the meaningful improvement there in, let's say, per ton margins, really all the metrics, how much of the improvement there is related to, let's say, you know, accessing more brine-based tons or, you know, more brine-based potassium as opposed to, you know, supplemental purchases of KCl?
David Silver: Okay. I appreciate you keeping it high level. One last question from me. It would be regarding, you know, Ogden and the very strong, you know, improvement there on your SOP business. When I look at the results, I mean, there's a number of highlights, I'm just kinda scratching my head and wondering, is the meaningful improvement there in, let's say, per ton margins, really all the metrics, how much of the improvement there is related to, let's say, you know, accessing more brine-based tons or, you know, more brine-based potassium as opposed to, you know, supplemental purchases of KCl?
Speaker #5: When I look at the results, I mean, there's a number of highlights. But I'm just kind of scratching my head and wondering is the meaningful improvement there in, let's say, per ton margins?
Speaker #5: Really, all the metrics. But how much of the improvement there is related to, let's say, accessing more brine-based tons or more brine-based potassium, as opposed to supplemental purchases of KCl?
Speaker #5: So how much of it is maybe just nuts and bolts of operating the evaporation ponds and everything versus maybe tapping into a richer source of brine with more potassium in the original brine?
David Silver: How much of it is maybe just nuts and bolts of operating, you know, the evaporation ponds and everything versus maybe tapping into a richer source of brine with more, you know, potassium in the original brine? Thank you.
David Silver: How much of it is maybe just nuts and bolts of operating, you know, the evaporation ponds and everything versus maybe tapping into a richer source of brine with more, you know, potassium in the original brine? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Edward Dowling: Yeah, David, that's a great question and it depends where you really start the clock of looking at it. You know, we turn the clock back a couple of years, remember our earnings out of that entire business, including Wynyard, was something in the mid-teens. Now we're going back to sort of historical levels of about $50 million a year, which is really kind of 40 to 50 is what we said was our target. We're there, with more improvement to come. A lot of that improvement is exactly what you said. It's about managing the ponds correctly and building up the salt at the right grade. Remember we talked about the harvest to production ratio and all those sort of details.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Yeah, David, that's a great question. And it depends where you really start the clock on looking at it. We turn the clock back a couple of years.
Edward Dowling: Yeah, David, that's a great question and it depends where you really start the clock of looking at it. You know, we turn the clock back a couple of years, remember our earnings out of that entire business, including Wynyard, was something in the mid-teens. Now we're going back to sort of historical levels of about $50 million a year, which is really kind of 40 to 50 is what we said was our target. We're there, with more improvement to come. A lot of that improvement is exactly what you said. It's about managing the ponds correctly and building up the salt at the right grade. Remember we talked about the harvest to production ratio and all those sort of details.
Speaker #2: Remember our earnings out of that tire business, including Winyard, was something in the mid-teens. And now we're going back to sort of historical levels of about 50 million a year, which is really kind of 40 to 50 is what it said was our target.
Speaker #2: We're there. And with more improvement to come. A lot of that improvement is exactly what you said. It's about managing the ponds correctly and building up the salt at the right grade.
Speaker #2: Remember we talked about the harvest to production ratio and all those sort of details? Getting that right and then putting sufficient inventory in front of our wet plants so that we can manage and stabilize the plant in a better way.
Edward Dowling: Getting that right and then putting sufficient inventory in front of our wet plant so that we can manage and stabilize the plant in a better way. That's been a great success for us. We'll continue to do that. I just wanna remind you that. We'll continue to supplement as appropriate with KCl, but the big improvement over the last couple of years is really just managing the ponds better, restoring that. Remind you that we're not done yet, that we've got an important capital project to execute, which will be done as later next year, where we're going to, which is really the dryer compaction plant, where we have yield losses and other things.
Edward Dowling: Getting that right and then putting sufficient inventory in front of our wet plant so that we can manage and stabilize the plant in a better way. That's been a great success for us. We'll continue to do that. I just wanna remind you that. We'll continue to supplement as appropriate with KCl, but the big improvement over the last couple of years is really just managing the ponds better, restoring that. Remind you that we're not done yet, that we've got an important capital project to execute, which will be done as later next year, where we're going to, which is really the dryer compaction plant, where we have yield losses and other things.
Speaker #2: So that's been a great success for us. We'll continue to do that. And I just want to remind you that and we'll continue to supplement as appropriate with KCL, but the big improvement over the last couple of years has really just managing the ponds better, restoring that.
Speaker #2: Remind you that we're not done yet. That we've got an important capital project to execute, which will be done later next year. Where we're going to, which is really the drier compaction plant where we have yield losses and other things, very high circulating loads, inefficient operations.
Edward Dowling: Very high circling loads, inefficient operations, make a product that we could wanna improve the quality of, and we'll execute that project, and we'll see more capacity at lower costs, all things being equal, with a better quality than what we're producing right now.
Edward Dowling: Very high circling loads, inefficient operations, make a product that we could wanna improve the quality of, and we'll execute that project, and we'll see more capacity at lower costs, all things being equal, with a better quality than what we're producing right now.
Speaker #2: Make a product that we could want to improve the quality of. And we'll execute that project. And we'll see more capacity at lower cost, all things being equal with a better quality.
Speaker #2: Than what we're producing right now.
Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you for all the color. I am going to get back in the queue. So thank you.
David Silver: Okay. Thank you for all the color. I am gonna get back in the queue. Thank you.
David Silver: Okay. Thank you for all the color. I am gonna get back in the queue. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Once again, a reminder: if you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Once again, that is star followed by the number one.
Operator: Once again, a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Once again, that is star followed by the number 1. We'll pause for just another moment here to compile the Q&A roster. We have a question from David Silver of Freedom Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Operator: Once again, a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Once again, that is star followed by the number 1. We'll pause for just another moment here to compile the Q&A roster. We have a question from David Silver of Freedom Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: We'll pause for just another moment here. To compile the Q&A roster. And we have a question from David Silver of Freedom Capital Market. Your line is opened.
Speaker #5: Okay. Great. Thanks very much. I did want to ask a question, I guess, about your particular tax situation here. As you look at fiscal 2026.
David Silver: Okay, great. Thanks very much. I did wanna ask a question, I guess, about your particular tax situation here, you know, as you look at fiscal 2026. In particular, you know, I would love to maybe get Peter Fjellman's comments on what kind of cash tax liability may be in a reasonable range, you know, we should expect? I mean, it's a very complicated tax, you know, analysis to do with the different geographies, and on top of that, the big, you know, settlement with the government of Ontario, I guess.
David Silver: Okay, great. Thanks very much. I did wanna ask a question, I guess, about your particular tax situation here, you know, as you look at fiscal 2026. In particular, you know, I would love to maybe get Peter Fjellman's comments on what kind of cash tax liability may be in a reasonable range, you know, we should expect? I mean, it's a very complicated tax, you know, analysis to do with the different geographies, and on top of that, the big, you know, settlement with the government of Ontario, I guess.
Speaker #5: And in particular, I would love to maybe get Peter's comments on what kind of cash tax liability maybe in a reasonable range we should expect.
Speaker #5: I mean, it's a very complicated tax analysis to do with the different geographies and on top of that, the big settlement was the government of Ontario, I guess.
David Silver: you know, in thinking about kind of, you know, if we're trying to do our cash flow work here, free cash flow work, what, you know, what could you point us to in terms of, you know, a cash tax liability for this year?
Speaker #5: So in thinking about kind of if we're trying to do our cash flow work here or free cash flow work, what could you point us to in terms of a cash tax liability for this year?
David Silver: you know, in thinking about kind of, you know, if we're trying to do our cash flow work here, free cash flow work, what, you know, what could you point us to in terms of, you know, a cash tax liability for this year?
Speaker #2: Okay. Well, look, it is a complicated question. The short answer is within our guidance, everything's built into that. Nothing's really changed. In terms of the details, let me pass it off to Peter.
Edward Dowling: Okay. Well, look, it is a complicated question. The short answer is within our guidance, you know, everything's built into that. Nothing's really changed. In terms of the details, let me pass it off to Peter to try to address your question with a little more substance.
Edward Dowling: Okay. Well, look, it is a complicated question. The short answer is within our guidance, you know, everything's built into that. Nothing's really changed. In terms of the details, let me pass it off to Peter to try to address your question with a little more substance.
Speaker #2: To try to address your question with a little more substance.
Speaker #3: Sure. Thank you. David, thanks for the question. Look, as we spoke before, right, the tax at Compass here swings in our effective tax rate is what happens, right?
Peter Fjellman: Sure. Thank you. David, thanks for the question. Look, as we spoke before, right, the tax at Compass here swings in our effective tax rate is what happens, right? It's based on relatively, you know, income in Canada, losses in the US, adding a relatively small number for income tax purposes, right? As we think through how that's compared and comparability, that number will tend to fluctuate quite a bit from an effective tax rate. From a cash standpoint, which is your question, remember that we did make some OMT related to the Ontario mining matter and a resolution of that in previous quarters. Working through that, but obviously have adjusted our balance sheet and our cash payments in previous quarters. We're working through that as well.
Peter Fjellman: Sure. Thank you. David, thanks for the question. Look, as we spoke before, right, the tax at Compass here swings in our effective tax rate is what happens, right? It's based on relatively, you know, income in Canada, losses in the US, adding a relatively small number for income tax purposes, right? As we think through how that's compared and comparability, that number will tend to fluctuate quite a bit from an effective tax rate. From a cash standpoint, which is your question, remember that we did make some OMT related to the Ontario mining matter and a resolution of that in previous quarters. Working through that, but obviously have adjusted our balance sheet and our cash payments in previous quarters. We're working through that as well.
Speaker #3: It's based on relatively income in Canada, losses in the US, adding a relatively small number for income tax purposes, right? So as we think through how that's compared and comparability, that number will tend to fluctuate quite a bit from effective tax rate.
Speaker #3: From a cash standpoint—which is your question—remember that we did make some OMT related to the Ontario mining manner. We had a resolution of that in previous quarters.
Speaker #3: And working through that, but obviously have adjusted our balance sheet and our cash payments in previous quarters. And we're working through that as well.
Speaker #3: So at this point, there's not a lot to guide on cash tax. And we'll have a better update here in Q3 and Q4.
Peter Fjellman: At this point, there's not a lot to guide on cash tax, and we'll have a better update here in Q3 and Q4.
Peter Fjellman: At this point, there's not a lot to guide on cash tax, and we'll have a better update here in Q3 and Q4.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Thanks, Peter. Just let me close here with that thought. Put yourself back a year or two. We had a lot of sort of non-core business issues in the company.
Edward Dowling: Yeah, thanks, Peter. You know, let me just close here with that thought. You know, put yourself back 1 or 2 years. We had a lot of sort of non-core business issues in the company and getting these matters behind us in terms of the refinancing that we've done, the Ontario mining tax, a number of legal issues. We've really cleared much of this out of the company. The great news there, it's allowed us to really focus on more on what's important.
Edward Dowling: Yeah, thanks, Peter. You know, let me just close here with that thought. You know, put yourself back 1 or 2 years. We had a lot of sort of non-core business issues in the company and getting these matters behind us in terms of the refinancing that we've done, the Ontario mining tax, a number of legal issues. We've really cleared much of this out of the company. The great news there, it's allowed us to really focus on more on what's important.
Speaker #2: And getting these matters behind us in terms of the refinancing that we've done, the Ontario mining tax, a number of legal issues. We've really cleared much of this out of the company.
Speaker #2: And the great news there, it's allowed us to really focus more on what's important.
Speaker #5: Okay. Great. And just last one for me, but just at a very high level, I mean, I do have a question about your thinking heading into this current bid season.
David Silver: Okay, great. Just last one for me. You know, just at a very high level, I mean, I, I do have a question about your thinking heading into this current bid season. I know it's very, very early days and whatnot. You know, when I think about how the past winter played out, I mean, when we spoke, I don't know, two and a half, two and a half months ago, you know, it was really kind of, you know, hand to mouth, or, you know, very tight supply across, you know, your primary marketing region. You know, the way the winter worked out, I mean, the last month or so was pretty calm or pretty mild, I guess you'd say.
David Silver: Okay, great. Just last one for me. You know, just at a very high level, I mean, I, I do have a question about your thinking heading into this current bid season. I know it's very, very early days and whatnot. You know, when I think about how the past winter played out, I mean, when we spoke, I don't know, two and a half, two and a half months ago, you know, it was really kind of, you know, hand to mouth, or, you know, very tight supply across, you know, your primary marketing region. You know, the way the winter worked out, I mean, the last month or so was pretty calm or pretty mild, I guess you'd say.
Speaker #5: And I know it's very, very early days and whatnot. But when I think about how the past winter played out—I mean, when we spoke, I don't know.
Speaker #5: Two and a half, two, two and a half months ago, it was really kind of hand to mouth or very tight supply across your primary marketing region.
Speaker #5: And the way the winter worked out, I mean, the last month or so was pretty calm or pretty mild, I guess you'd say. And I'm just kind of wondering, do you think the industry is still kind of in a scarcity mode?
David Silver: I'm just kind of wondering, do you think the industry is still kind of, you know, in a scarcity mode, or has the mild March weather, I mean, given a, given a chance for the situation to kind of normalize? Just, you know, last year you got single digits or low single digits on volume and price, and I'm just kind of scratching my head. I'm pretty sure, you know, you're interested in, you know, improving upon that result. Maybe just some comments from the field, what you think the winter-ending inventories look like maybe at the key customers and yourselves. Thank you.
David Silver: I'm just kind of wondering, do you think the industry is still kind of, you know, in a scarcity mode, or has the mild March weather, I mean, given a, given a chance for the situation to kind of normalize? Just, you know, last year you got single digits or low single digits on volume and price, and I'm just kind of scratching my head. I'm pretty sure, you know, you're interested in, you know, improving upon that result. Maybe just some comments from the field, what you think the winter-ending inventories look like maybe at the key customers and yourselves. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Or has the mild March weather, I mean, given a chance for the situation to kind of normalize? Just last year, you got single digits or low single digits on volume and price.
Speaker #5: And I'm just kind of scratching my head. I'm pretty sure you're trying to you're interested in improving upon that result. But maybe just some comments from the field, what you think the winter ending inventories look like maybe at the key customers and yourselves.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Edward Dowling: Let me just make an early comment. It's always important to, when we talk about inventories, to talk about where. You know, we had a really strong winter and much of our kind of call it northern system, and inventories remain tight there. We had a better winter in the south. That's part of what's driving the mix and costs. In the UK and out west, out west particularly, where our lowest cost salts actually produce, it was less so. Those inventories remain higher there. It's really important to kind of understand where you are. Within that context, our objective is to maximize value. Let me pass it off to Ben here for some comments.
Edward Dowling: Let me just make an early comment. It's always important to, when we talk about inventories, to talk about where. You know, we had a really strong winter and much of our kind of call it northern system, and inventories remain tight there. We had a better winter in the south. That's part of what's driving the mix and costs. In the UK and out west, out west particularly, where our lowest cost salts actually produce, it was less so. Those inventories remain higher there. It's really important to kind of understand where you are. Within that context, our objective is to maximize value. Let me pass it off to Ben here for some comments.
Speaker #2: Let me just make an early comment. It's always important to when we talk about inventories to talk about where. We had a really strong winter.
Speaker #2: And much of our kind of call it northern system. And inventories remain tight there. We've had better winter in the south. That's part of what's driving the mix and cost.
Speaker #2: But in the UK and out west, out west particularly, where our lowest cost salt is actually produced it was less so. So there's inventories remain higher there.
Speaker #2: So it's really important to kind of understand where you are. Within that context, our objective is to maximize value. Let me pass it off to Ben here for some comments.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Good morning, David. This is Ben. I think as I stated, we think that the scenario is very constructive for value moving forward. We see the industry as thin on inventories coming out of the last season, all things being equal.
Ben Nichols: Yeah, good morning, David Silver. This is Ben Nichols. I think, as Ed stated, we think that the scenario is very constructive for value moving forward. You know, we see the industry is thin on inventories coming out of the last season, all things being equal. While it is early in the bid process, you know, the few data points that we have seen are positive and support the thesis that we've stated. We're excited about the bid season. The team's very focused on driving value for every ton that we sell. We'll have a lot more detail for you when we get together about a quarter from now.
Ben Nichols: Yeah, good morning, David Silver. This is Ben Nichols. I think, as Ed stated, we think that the scenario is very constructive for value moving forward. You know, we see the industry is thin on inventories coming out of the last season, all things being equal. While it is early in the bid process, you know, the few data points that we have seen are positive and support the thesis that we've stated. We're excited about the bid season. The team's very focused on driving value for every ton that we sell. We'll have a lot more detail for you when we get together about a quarter from now.
Speaker #4: While it is early in the bid process, the few data points that we have seen are positive and support the thesis that we've stated.
Speaker #4: So we're excited about the bid season. The team's very focused on driving value for every time that we sell. And we'll have a lot more detail for you when we get now.
David Silver: Very helpful. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
David Silver: Very helpful. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Speaker #5: Very helpful. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Speaker #6: With no additional questions in the queue, I'll turn it back to Ed Dowling, president and CEO, for closing remarks.
Operator: With no additional questions.
Operator: With no additional questions.
Edward Dowling: Thanks, David.
Edward Dowling: Thanks, David.
Operator: -in the queue, I'll turn it back to Ed Dowling, President and CEO, for closing remarks.
Operator: -in the queue, I'll turn it back to Ed Dowling, President and CEO, for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Well, thank you all for your questions and your interest in Compass Minerals. I'm going to leave you with this. We had a strong quarter, but the journey isn't finished.
Edward Dowling: Well, thank you all for your questions and your interest in Compass Minerals. I'm gonna leave you with this. We had a strong quarter, but the journey isn't finished. Some of the hard work has continued to drive operational improvements, and we are. Some is continue to improve the plant nutrition business, and we are. Some of it's retiring debt to improve our balance sheet, and we are. Some of it's discipline execution on our commercial side. We're doing that too. The direction is right. Strategy's sound. The team is committed. We look forward to updating you on our next call.
Edward Dowling: Well, thank you all for your questions and your interest in Compass Minerals. I'm gonna leave you with this. We had a strong quarter, but the journey isn't finished. Some of the hard work has continued to drive operational improvements, and we are. Some is continue to improve the plant nutrition business, and we are. Some of it's retiring debt to improve our balance sheet, and we are. Some of it's discipline execution on our commercial side. We're doing that too. The direction is right. Strategy's sound. The team is committed. We look forward to updating you on our next call.
Speaker #2: Some of the hard work is continuing to drive operational improvements and we are. Some is continuing to improve the plant nutrition business and we are.
Speaker #2: Some of it's retiring debt to improve our balance sheet and we are. And some of discipline execution on our commercial side. We're doing that too.
Speaker #2: The direction is right. Strategy sound. The team is committed. We look forward to updating you on our next call.
Speaker #6: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
Ben Nichols: Goodbye.
