Q1 2026 LATAM Airlines Group SA Earnings Call
Speaker #1: School. My name is Becky, and I will be your operator today. Before I turn the call over to management, I'd like to remind you that certain statements in this presentation and during the Q&A may relate to future events and expectations.
Speaker #1: And as such, constitute forward-looking statements. Any matters discussed today that are not historical facts, particularly comments regarding the company's future plans, objectives, and expected performance or guidance, are forward-looking statements.
Speaker #1: These statements are based on a range of assumptions that LATAM believes are reasonable but are subject to uncertainties and risks that are discussed in detail in the published 20F 2026 guidance, earnings release, financial statements, and related CMF and SEC filings.
Speaker #1: The company's actual results may differ significantly from those projected or suggested, and any forward-looking statements due to a variety of factors which are discussed in detail in our SEC filings.
Speaker #1: And if there are any members of the press on this call, please note that for the media, this is a listen-only call. I will now hand over to your host, Ricardo Botas, CFO, to begin.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Hello everyone, and good morning. Welcome to our first quarter 2026 conference call, and thank you all for joining us today. My name is Ricardo, and I'm CFO of the LATAM AIRLINES GROUP.
Speaker #2: Here with me is Roberto Alvo, our CEO, Andrés del Valle, Corporate Finance Director, and Tori Creighton, Head of Investor Relations. And we will present the highlights and results for the first quarter of 2026.
Speaker #2: I'll hand it over to Roberto to share his opening remarks.
Speaker #3: Good morning everyone, and thank you, Ricardo. Let me begin: LATAM began delivering a very strong set of results which reflect the consistency of the execution and the structural strengths of the model built over the past years.
Speaker #3: During the first quarter, LATAM grew capacity by 10.4% and transported close to 23 million passengers, while maintaining a solid load factor of 85.3%, demonstrating once again its ability to grow efficiently and capture demand across the network.
Speaker #3: The strong operational performance translated into record financial results. Revenue reached 4.1 billion dollars, adjusted EBITDA was 1.3 billion dollars, and the adjusted operating margin was close to 20%.
Speaker #3: The highest quarterly figure in the company's history, resulting in a net income of 576 million dollars, reflecting both revenue strength and discipline cost execution.
Speaker #3: These results were supported by continued progress in revenue quality during also by solid execution well-tailored product differentiation, strong customer preference, and a continuous increase in the contribution of premium revenues.
Speaker #3: This reflects a trend that has been building consistently over the recent quarters, as LATAM's business model is delivering on the expected results. Even though the conflict in the Middle East pushed up jet fuel prices sharply starting in March, given the timing of fuel consumption, price lagging mechanisms, and partial hedges, this increase did not materially impact the first quarter financial results.
Speaker #3: LATAM expects, however, these higher fuel prices to be reflected in the second quarter of this year. As fueling prices increase, LATAM GROUP began implementing fair adjustments in most of its network, as well as executing targeted capacity reductions.
Speaker #3: To date, the demand environment remains strong and stable. And this commercial actions are partially mitigating the higher fuel expenses. Looking forward, we face the upcoming months with a combination of optimism and caution.
Speaker #3: Optimism because over the last years, LATAM has built a very resilient model. Its passengers and cargo business integration, together with the presence of LATAM's GROUP has in most marketed operates, the strength of the loyalty program, the design and delivery of the passenger experience both on board and throughout the journey, the focus on premium traffic and less elastic segments of demand, its competitive cost, the strength of its balance sheet and liquidity, and most importantly, the quality and commitment of its people, are all features that are unique to LATAM in the region.
Speaker #3: And provide a true advantage and a potential source of future opportunity. Caution, on the other side, because the environment remains extremely uncertain and variables that significantly affect the business are outside of LATAM's control.
Speaker #3: However, LATAM's track record in navigating complex environments is well proven at this time and the GROUP really trusts its abilities. In this volatile context, LATAM has taken a prudent approach to its guidance, as will be discussed in more detail later in the presentation.
Speaker #3: Extraordinarily, given the circumstances the company has decided to replace its full year 2026 guidance with a more focused set of metrics. With that said, I'll hand it over to Ricardo, who will talk us walk us through the performance of the first quarter together with a look into LATAM's GROUP relative and absolute strengths.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Roberto. So Roberto, with his opening remarks, just covered the slide threes. We can jump to the slide four. LATAM started the year with a strong financial performance, successfully translating a healthy demand environment into tangible financial results.
Speaker #2: Total revenues reached 4.1 billion dollars, representing a 21.7% increase compared to the same period last year, mainly driven by the passenger business, which grew 24.4%.
Speaker #2: Supported by strong customer preference for the LATAM GROUP product during the higher summer season, in the southern hemisphere. At the same time, cargo revenues increased 3.4%, highlighting once again the importance of LATAM's GROUP business diversification.
Speaker #2: Which in the current context continue to be a key lever for the GROUP. As a result of this top line performance, LATAM achieved an adjusted operating margin of 19.8%, expanding 3 percentage points year over year.
Speaker #2: Marking the highest quarterly operating margin the company history. This reflects not only the strength of LATAM's brand, but also the discipline execution of this strategy across the network.
Speaker #1: LATAM representation. Extraordinarily given. Circumstances the company has decided to replace its full-year 2026 guidance with a more focused set of metrics. With that set, I'll hand it over to Ricardo, who will talk us walk us through the performance of the first quarter together with a look into LATAM's relative absolute strengths.
Speaker #2: On the cost side, total adjusted expenses increased 17.3%, alongside operational activity and capacity growth. Importantly, fuel cost pressures during the quarter did not have an immediate or material impact on the results, given the delay of the approximately 20 to 30 days in price adjustments, supported by regional supply structures.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Roberto. So, Roberto, with, his opening remarks just covered the slide three. We can jump to the slide, four. LATAM started the year with a strong financial performance, successfully translating healthy debt and environment into tangible financial results.
Speaker #2: In fact, given LATAM's hedging position in this dynamic, there was a reduction of 3.3% in fuel pricing during the quarter on a year over year basis.
Speaker #2: Total revenues reached $4.1 billion, representing a 21.7% increase compared to the same period last year, mainly driven by the passenger business, which grew 24.4%.
Speaker #2: That said, there was an estimated impact close to 40 million dollars during the period, which is expected to become more visible in the following quarter.
Speaker #2: As elevated fuel prices are progressively incorporated. At the unit cost level, passenger cask X fuel came in at 4.5 cents. This is an increase versus the same period of 2025, mainly explained by the appreciation of the local currency, particularly the Brazilian real.
Speaker #2: Supported by strong customer preference for the LATAM Group product during the higher summer season, in the southern and. At the same time, total revenues increased 3.4%, right highlighting own sec and the importance of LATAM's Group business diversification, which in the current context continue to be a key lever for the group.
Tori Creighton: Later in the presentation. Extraordinarily, given the circumstances, the company has decided to replace its full year 2026 guidance with a more focused set of metrics. With that said, I'll hand over to Ricardo who will walk us through the performance of the Q1 together with a look into LATAM's Group relative and absolute strengths. Thank you.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Later in the presentation. Extraordinarily, given the circumstances, the company has decided to replace its full year 2026 guidance with a more focused set of metrics. With that said, I'll hand over to Ricardo who will walk us through the performance of the Q1 together with a look into LATAM's Group relative and absolute strengths. Thank you.
Speaker #2: As a result of this top-line performance, LATAM achieved an adjusted operating margin of 19.8%, expanding 3% points year over year. Marking the highest quarterly operating margin the company history.
Speaker #2: Together with these, unit revenues increased at the stronger pace, rising 12.7%, reflecting a solid performance across all markets. All of this translated into a net income of almost 600 million dollars for the quarter, an increase over 62% year over year, and a net margin of almost 14%, enabling the consistent delivery of exceptional results from the top line down to the bottom line.
Ricardo: Thank you, Roberto. Roberto, with his opening remarks just covered the slide 3, we can jump to the slide 4. LATAM started the year with a strong financial performance, successfully translating a healthy demand environment into tangible financial results. Total revenues reached $4.1 billion, representing a 21.7% increase compared to the same period last year, mainly driven by the passenger business, which grew 24.4%, supported by strong customer preference for the LATAM Group product during the higher summer season in the Southern Hemisphere. At the same time, cargo revenues increased 3.4%, highlighting once again the importance of LATAM's Group business diversification, which in the current context continued to be a key lever for the group.
Ricardo Bottas: Thank you, Roberto. Roberto, with his opening remarks just covered the slide 3, we can jump to the slide 4. LATAM started the year with a strong financial performance, successfully translating a healthy demand environment into tangible financial results. Total revenues reached $4.1 billion, representing a 21.7% increase compared to the same period last year, mainly driven by the passenger business, which grew 24.4%, supported by strong customer preference for the LATAM Group product during the higher summer season in the Southern Hemisphere. At the same time, cargo revenues increased 3.4%, highlighting once again the importance of LATAM's Group business diversification, which in the current context continued to be a key lever for the group.
Speaker #2: This reflects not only the strength of LATAM's brand but also the discipline and execution of this strategy across the network. On the cost side, total adjusted expenses increased 17.3%, alongside operational activity and capacity growth.
Speaker #2: Importantly, fuel cost pressures during the quarter did not have any mediate or material impact on the results, given the delay of the approximately 20 to 30 days in price adjustments, supported by regional supply structures.
Speaker #2: Please join me on the next slide to take a deeper dive into revenue performance across different affiliate and business units. Now on the slide five.
Speaker #2: The first quarter was characterized by strong demand environment across the region. In this context, LATAM GROUP was able to very effectively capture this demand and translate into revenue performance, supported by its fair proposition and network.
Speaker #2: In fact, given LATAM's hedging position in this dynamic, there was a reduction of 3.3% in fuel pricing during the quarter on a year-over-year basis.
Speaker #2: That said, there was an estimated impact close to $40 million during the period, which is expected to become more visible in the following quarter.
Ricardo: As a result of this top line performance, LATAM achieved an adjusted operating margin of 19.8%, expanding 3 percentage points year-over-year, marking the highest quarterly operating margin in the company history. This reflects not only the strength of LATAM's brand, but also the disciplined execution of this strategy across the network. On the cost side, total adjusted expenses increased 17.3% alongside operational activity and capacity growth. Importantly, fuel cost pressures during the quarter did not have an immediate or material impact on the results, given the delay of the approximately 20 to 30 days in price adjustments supported by regional supply structures. In fact, given LATAM's hedging position in this dynamic, there was a reduction of 3.3% in fuel pricing during the quarter on a year-over-year basis.
Ricardo Bottas: As a result of this top line performance, LATAM achieved an adjusted operating margin of 19.8%, expanding 3 percentage points year-over-year, marking the highest quarterly operating margin in the company history. This reflects not only the strength of LATAM's brand, but also the disciplined execution of this strategy across the network. On the cost side, total adjusted expenses increased 17.3% alongside operational activity and capacity growth. Importantly, fuel cost pressures during the quarter did not have an immediate or material impact on the results, given the delay of the approximately 20 to 30 days in price adjustments supported by regional supply structures. In fact, given LATAM's hedging position in this dynamic, there was a reduction of 3.3% in fuel pricing during the quarter on a year-over-year basis.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, the GROUP began navigating a context of increasing fuel prices, and as a result, implemented target revenue management actions, though these are partly reflected in the first quarter given the percentage of tickets already sold for March at that time.
Speaker #2: As elevated fuel prices are progressively incorporated. At the unit cost, level passenger cask XCOK net 4.5 cents. This is an increase versus the same period of 2025, mainly explained by the depreciation of the local currency, particularly the Brazilian real.
Speaker #2: In the quarter, the GROUP increased capacity by 10.4% and transported 22.9 million passengers, a 9.1% increase compared to the same period of 2025, mainly driven by the international segment and LATAMized Brazil domestic markets.
Speaker #2: Together with this, unit revenues increased at the stronger pace, rising 12.7%, reflecting a solid performance across all markets. All of this related into net income of almost, $600 million for the quarter, an increase over, 62% year over year.
Speaker #2: This was accompanied by a consolidated load factor of 85.3%, a 2 percentage point increase. At the market level, LATAM Brazil LATAM Airlines Brazil domestic market showed strong dynamics, with demand growing above capacity, leading to higher load factors and a solid passenger performance.
Speaker #2: And the net margin of almost 14%, nailing the consistent delivery of exceptional results from the top-line down to the bottom line. Please join me on the next slide to take a deeper dive into revenue performance across different affiliates and business units.
Ricardo: There was an estimated impact close to $40 million during the period, which is expected to become more visible in the following quarter as elevated jet fuel price are progressively incorporated. At the unit cost level, passenger CASK ex-fuel came in at $0.045. This is an increase versus the same period of 2025, mainly explained by the appreciation of the local currency, particularly the Brazilian real. Unit revenues increased at a stronger pace, rising 12.7%, reflecting a solid performance across all markets. All of this translated into a net income of almost $600 million for the quarter, an increase over 62% year-over-year and a net margin of almost 14%, enabling the consistent delivery of exceptional results from the top line down to the bottom line.
Ricardo Bottas: There was an estimated impact close to $40 million during the period, which is expected to become more visible in the following quarter as elevated jet fuel price are progressively incorporated. At the unit cost level, passenger CASK ex-fuel came in at $0.045. This is an increase versus the same period of 2025, mainly explained by the appreciation of the local currency, particularly the Brazilian real. Unit revenues increased at a stronger pace, rising 12.7%, reflecting a solid performance across all markets. All of this translated into a net income of almost $600 million for the quarter, an increase over 62% year-over-year and a net margin of almost 14%, enabling the consistent delivery of exceptional results from the top line down to the bottom line.
Speaker #2: Increasing 17% in US dollars and 8% in local currency, supported by a more favorable exchange rate than last year. In the domestic Spanish-speaking affiliate markets, capacity remained stable, while improved traffic translating to a meaningful increase in load factors and a very strong unit revenue performance, with passenger increasing close to 25% in dollars and nearly 19% in local currency.
Speaker #2: Now on the slide five. The first quarter was characterized by strong demand in the environment across the region. In this context, LATAM Group was able to demand and translate it into a revenue performance, supported by its value proposition and network.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, the group began navigating a context of increasing fuel prices and, as a result, implemented target revenue management actions, so these are partly reflected in the first quarter, given the percentage of tickets read sold for March at that time.
Speaker #2: In the international segment, capacity and traffic grew at a similar pace, maintaining very healthy load factors close to 87%, while passenger increased 6.3%, supported by a strong performance across both regional and long-haul operations.
Speaker #2: The quarter the group increased capacity by 10.4% and supported 22.9 million passengers, a 9.1% increase compared to the same period of 2025, mainly driven by the international segment and LATAMized Brazil domestic market.
Speaker #2: Overall, these results reflect LATAM's GROUP discipline execution and capacity deployment in revenue management, which supported by a favorable demand backdrop, along with the GROUP to deliver strong unit revenues.
Speaker #2: This was accompanied by a consolidated load factor of 85.3%, a 2% point increase. At the market level, LATAM Brazil, LATAM Airlines Brazil domestic market showed strong dynamics, with demand growing above capacity, leading to higher load factors and a solid passenger performance.
Ricardo: Please join me on the next slide to take a deeper dive into revenue performance across different affiliates and business units. Now on the slide 5. The Q1 was characterized by strong demand environment across the region. In this context, LATAM Group was able to very effectively capture this demand and translate into revenue performance supported by its value proposition and network. During the quarter, the group began navigating a context of increasing fuel prices and as a result, implemented target revenue management actions. These are partly reflected in the Q1 given the percentage of tickets already sold for March at that time.
Ricardo Bottas: Please join me on the next slide to take a deeper dive into revenue performance across different affiliates and business units. Now on the slide 5. The Q1 was characterized by strong demand environment across the region. In this context, LATAM Group was able to very effectively capture this demand and translate into revenue performance supported by its value proposition and network. During the quarter, the group began navigating a context of increasing fuel prices and as a result, implemented target revenue management actions. These are partly reflected in the Q1 given the percentage of tickets already sold for March at that time.
Speaker #2: All underpinned by a differentiated value proposition, both in terms of product and its ability to connect the region like no other player. Let's move to the slide six.
Speaker #2: Increasing 70% in US dollars and 8% in local currency, supported by a more favorable exchange rate than last year. In the domestic Spanish-speaking affiliate markets, capacity remained stable, while it improved drastically, translating into a meaningful increase in load factors and a very strong unit revenue performance, with passenger RASK increasing close to 25% in dollars and nearly 19% in local currency.
Speaker #2: Talking about the LATAM's GROUP value proposition, particular continued development of its premium offering and the results, this is delivering the next slide. This is slide six.
Speaker #2: Product differentiation, customer preference, and the growing relevance of premium revenues were key drivers of LATAM's performance during the quarter. Underscoring the strength of the GROUP's payload proposition.
Speaker #2: These factors are all reflected in LATAM's recently awarded four stars in the Skytrax World Airlines Star Rating, making LATAM the only airline in Latin America history to reach this level.
Speaker #2: In the international segment, capacity and traffic grew at a similar pace, maintaining very healthy load factors close to 87%, while passenger RASK increased 6.3%, supported by strong performance across both regional and long-haul operations.
Ricardo: In the quarter, the group increased capacity by 10.4% and transported 22.9 million passengers, a 9.1% increase compared to the same period of 2025, mainly driven by the international segment and LATAM Airlines Brazil domestic market. This was accompanied by a consolidated load factor of 85.3%, a 2 percentage point increase. At the market level, LATAM Airlines Brazil domestic market show a strong dynamics, with demand growing above capacity, leading to higher load factors and a solid passenger RASK performance, increasing 17% in USD and 8% in local currency, supported by a more favorable exchange rate than last year.
Ricardo Bottas: In the quarter, the group increased capacity by 10.4% and transported 22.9 million passengers, a 9.1% increase compared to the same period of 2025, mainly driven by the international segment and LATAM Airlines Brazil domestic market. This was accompanied by a consolidated load factor of 85.3%, a 2 percentage point increase. At the market level, LATAM Airlines Brazil domestic market show a strong dynamics, with demand growing above capacity, leading to higher load factors and a solid passenger RASK performance, increasing 17% in USD and 8% in local currency, supported by a more favorable exchange rate than last year.
Speaker #2: The premium segment continues to gain importance with LATAM's revenue mix and therefore enhance the revenue quality. During the quarter, premium revenues increased 28% year over year and actually premium revenues are increasing at a rate 14% higher than non-premium passenger revenues, with these premium passenger revenues share reached 27% of passenger revenues, a significant increase compared to the pre-pandemic levels, which becomes particularly relevant in the current context of heightened volatility and macroeconomic pressures, as premium travelers tend to exhibit lower price elasticity and more stable demand patterns.
Speaker #2: Overall, these results reflect LATAM Group discipline and execution and capacity deployment in revenue management, which supported by a favorable demand backdrop, along with the group to deliver strong unit revenues.
Speaker #2: All signed by a differentiated value proposition, both in terms of product and its ability to connect the region-like snow water player. Let's move to slide six.
Speaker #2: talking about the LATAM Group value proposition, particular, continued development of its premium offering and results. This is delivering the next, slide. This is slide six.
Speaker #2: Complementing these, LATAM pass remain a key enabler of loyalty and customer engagement, with 55 million members, including 2.6 million elite members, making it the largest airline loyalty program in the region.
Ricardo: In the domestic Spanish-speaking affiliate markets, capacity remained stable, while improved traffic translated to a meaningful increase in load factors and a very strong unit revenue performance, with passenger RASK increasing close to 25% in dollars and nearly 19% in local currency. In the international segment, capacity and traffic grew at a similar pace, maintaining very high load factors close to 87%, while passenger RASK increased 6.3%, supported by strong performance across both regional and long-haul operations. Overall, these results reflect LATAM's Group discipline, execution, and capacity deployment in revenue management, which, supported by a favorable demand backdrop, allowed the group to deliver strong unit revenues, all underpinned by a differentiated value proposition, both in terms of product and its ability to connect the region like no other player.
Ricardo Bottas: In the domestic Spanish-speaking affiliate markets, capacity remained stable, while improved traffic translated to a meaningful increase in load factors and a very strong unit revenue performance, with passenger RASK increasing close to 25% in dollars and nearly 19% in local currency. In the international segment, capacity and traffic grew at a similar pace, maintaining very high load factors close to 87%, while passenger RASK increased 6.3%, supported by strong performance across both regional and long-haul operations. Overall, these results reflect LATAM's Group discipline, execution, and capacity deployment in revenue management, which, supported by a favorable demand backdrop, allowed the group to deliver strong unit revenues, all underpinned by a differentiated value proposition, both in terms of product and its ability to connect the region like no other player.
Speaker #2: Product differentiation, customer preference, and the growing relevance of premium revenues were key drivers of LATAM's performance during the quarter. Underscore the strength of the group's payload proposition.
Speaker #2: These factors are all reflected in LATAM's recently awarded four stars in the SkyTrax World Airlines Star Rating, making LATAM the only airline in Latin America history to reach this level.
Speaker #2: Beyond its scale, it's also served as a relevant revenue channel, with close to 60% of LATAM's passenger revenues generated by LATAM pass members, reinforcing the strength of the ecosystem and the GROUP's ability to deepen customer relationships.
Speaker #2: The premium segment continues to gain importance with LATAM's revenue mix and, therefore, enhance the revenue quality. During the quarter, premium revenues increased 28% year over year and actually premium revenues are increasing at a rate 14% higher than non-premium passenger revenues, with these premium passenger revenues share reached 27% of passenger revenues, a significant increase compared to the pre-pandemic levels, which becomes particularly relevant in the current context of heightening volatility and macroeconomic pressures, as premium travelers tend to exhibit lower price elasticity and more stable demand patterns.
Speaker #2: And as LATAM continues to elevate the customer journey, the GROUP has announced a series of initiatives aimed at further enhancing its premium offer going forward.
Speaker #2: These include the rollout of the Wi-Fi connectivity in the whitebody fleet, which has already begun with the first long-haul flight operated in last March, and will continue expanding in the coming years.
Speaker #2: The expansion of lounge infrastructure in the strategic hubs, such as São Paulo and Miami, and the introduction of the new premium comfort cabin expected from 2027.
Ricardo: Let's move to the slide 6, talking about LATAM's Group value proposition, particular, continued development of its premium offering and the results is delivering the next slide, this is slide 6. Product differentiation, customer preference, and the growing relevance of premium revenues were key drivers of LATAM's performance during the quarter, underscoring the strength of the group's value proposition. These factors are all reflected in LATAM's recently awarded 4 stars in the Skytrax World Airline Star Rating, making LATAM the only airline in Latin America history to reach this level. The premium segment continues to gain importance with LATAM's revenues mix and therefore enhance the revenue quality. During the quarter, premium revenues increased 28% year-over-year, and actually, premium revenues are increasing at a rate 14% higher than non-premium passenger revenues.
Ricardo Bottas: Let's move to the slide 6, talking about LATAM's Group value proposition, particular, continued development of its premium offering and the results is delivering the next slide, this is slide 6. Product differentiation, customer preference, and the growing relevance of premium revenues were key drivers of LATAM's performance during the quarter, underscoring the strength of the group's value proposition. These factors are all reflected in LATAM's recently awarded 4 stars in the Skytrax World Airline Star Rating, making LATAM the only airline in Latin America history to reach this level. The premium segment continues to gain importance with LATAM's revenues mix and therefore enhance the revenue quality. During the quarter, premium revenues increased 28% year-over-year, and actually, premium revenues are increasing at a rate 14% higher than non-premium passenger revenues.
Speaker #2: Complementing this, LATAM has remained a key enabler of, loyalty and customer engagement, with, 55 million members, including 2.6 million elite members making making it the largest airline loyalty program in the region.
Speaker #2: Building on these developments, one of the most recent highlights is the incorporation of the Airbus A321 XLR expected from 2027 onward, which will feature the premium business cabin with full flat seats, suite doors, direct aisle access, and onboard connectivity, reinforcing the GROUP premium value proposition and ensuring consistency across the LATAM GROUP product experience.
Speaker #2: Beyond this scale, it's also serves as a relevant revenue channel. With, close to 60% of LATAM's passenger revenues generated by LATAM pass members, reinforcing the strength of the ecosystem and the group's ability to deepen customer relationships.
Speaker #2: And as LATAM continues to elevate the customer journey, the group has announced a series of initiatives aiming at further enhancing its premium offer going forward.
Speaker #2: The continued development of LATAM's premium offering, together with its loyalty program and the network strength, allows the GROUP to capture more resilient and higher value demand, further supporting the sustainability of the financial performance, even in the face of a complex macroeconomic scenario.
Speaker #2: These include the rollout of the Wi-Fi connectivity and whiteboard fleet, which has already begun, with this first long-haul flight operated in last March, and we'll continue expanding in the coming years.
Speaker #2: The expansion of lounge infrastructure in the strategic hubs, such as São Paulo and Miami, and the introduction of the new premium comfort cabin expected from 2027.
Speaker #2: Please join me on the next slide, slide seven. LATAM's strong performance was effectively translated into solid cash generation during the quarter. At the start of the year, the company generated 858 million dollars in adjusted operating cash flow, reflecting the operational strength already discussed.
Ricardo: With this premium passenger revenues share reached 27% of passenger revenues, a significant increase compared to the pre-pandemic levels, which becomes particularly relevant in the current context of heightened volatility and macroeconomic pressures, as premium travelers tend to exhibit lower price elasticity and more stable demand patterns. Complementing this, LATAM Pass remain a key enabler of loyalty and customer engagement with 55 million members, including 2.6 million elite members, making it the largest airline loyalty program in the region. Beyond its scale, it also serves as a relevant revenue channel with close to 60% of LATAM's pass-passenger revenues generated by LATAM Pass members, reinforcing the strength of the ecosystem and the group's ability to deepen customer relationships.
Ricardo Bottas: With this premium passenger revenues share reached 27% of passenger revenues, a significant increase compared to the pre-pandemic levels, which becomes particularly relevant in the current context of heightened volatility and macroeconomic pressures, as premium travelers tend to exhibit lower price elasticity and more stable demand patterns. Complementing this, LATAM Pass remain a key enabler of loyalty and customer engagement with 55 million members, including 2.6 million elite members, making it the largest airline loyalty program in the region. Beyond its scale, it also serves as a relevant revenue channel with close to 60% of LATAM's pass-passenger revenues generated by LATAM Pass members, reinforcing the strength of the ecosystem and the group's ability to deepen customer relationships.
Speaker #2: Beyond these developments, one of the most recent highlights is the incorporation of the Airbus A321XLR, expected from 2027 onward, which will feature the premium business cabin with full flat seats, suite doors, black aisle access, and onboard connectivity, reinforcing the group premium value proposition and ensuring consistency across the LATAM Group product experience.
Speaker #2: After accounting for CAPEX net of financing of 291 million dollars, as well as financial expenses and other items, LATAM generated close to 480 million dollars in cash.
Speaker #2: The continued development of LATAM's premium offering, together with its loyalty program and the network strength, allows the group allows the group to capture more resilient and higher value demand, further supporting the further supporting the sustainability of the financial performance, even in the face of a complex macroeconomic scenario.
Speaker #2: During this period, paid amount 90 million dollars related with the interdividend distributed in December '25, which, given operational payments timing, were partially executed in January.
Speaker #2: These 89 million dollars you see in the column. As a result, LATAM closed the quarter with a net cash generation of 391 million dollars.
Speaker #2: please join me on the next slide, slide seven. LATAM's strong performance was particularly translated into solid cash generation during the quarter. At the start of the year, the company generated 858 million dollars in adjusted operating cash flow, reflecting the operational strength already discussed.
Speaker #2: This cash performance remained consistent with what we've seen in the previous quarters, where strong operating results are effectively converted into liquidity, which is the current context becomes a key source of strength, allowing LATAM to maintain a position of confidence in its financial standing while navigating in an environment with higher uncertainty.
Ricardo: As LATAM continues to elevate the customer journey, the group has announced a series of initiatives aimed at further enhancing its premium offer going forward. This includes the rollout of the Wi-Fi connectivity in the wide-body fleet, which has already begun with the first long-haul flight operated in March and will continue expanding in the coming years. The expansion of lounge infrastructure in the strategic hubs such as São Paulo and Miami, and the introduction of the new Premium Comfort cabin expected from 2027. Building on these developments, one of the most recent highlights is the incorporation of the Airbus A321XLR expected from 2027 onward, which will feature the premium business cabin with full flat seats, suite doors, direct aisle access, and onboard connectivity, reinforcing the group premium value proposition and ensuring consistency across the LATAM Group product experience.
Ricardo Bottas: As LATAM continues to elevate the customer journey, the group has announced a series of initiatives aimed at further enhancing its premium offer going forward. This includes the rollout of the Wi-Fi connectivity in the wide-body fleet, which has already begun with the first long-haul flight operated in March and will continue expanding in the coming years. The expansion of lounge infrastructure in the strategic hubs such as São Paulo and Miami, and the introduction of the new Premium Comfort cabin expected from 2027. Building on these developments, one of the most recent highlights is the incorporation of the Airbus A321XLR expected from 2027 onward, which will feature the premium business cabin with full flat seats, suite doors, direct aisle access, and onboard connectivity, reinforcing the group premium value proposition and ensuring consistency across the LATAM Group product experience.
Speaker #2: After accounting for CAPEX net of financing of 291 million dollars, as well as financial expenses and other items, LATAM generated close to 8,408 million dollars in cash.
Speaker #2: Let's move to the next slide, slide eight. In the current context, of elevated fuel prices, and ongoing macro volatility having a strong and lean balance sheet drivers competitiveness, and this continues to be a key differentiator for LATAM.
Speaker #2: During this period, payment amounted to 90 million dollars related with the interdividend distributed in December 2025, which gave an operational payment timing where partially executed in January.
Speaker #2: These 89 million dollars, you see in the column. As a result, LATAM closed the quarter with a net cash generation of 391 million dollars.
Speaker #2: The GROUP closed the quarter with liquidity of 4.1 billion dollars and an adjusted net leverage of 1.3 times, supported by consistent cash flow generation, which remains at the core of the financial strategy.
Speaker #2: These cash performance remain consistent with what we've seen in the previous quarters, where it's shown operating results are effectively converted into liquidity, which is the current context becomes a key source of strength, allowing LATAM to maintain a position of confidence in its financial standing while navigating in an environment with a higher uncertainty.
Speaker #2: Additionally, in a scenario of prolonged and heightened volatility, the GROUP maintains significant financial optionality through its asset base, with more than 1.5 billion dollars in unencumbered assets, providing further flexibility to navigate the cycle and act on opportunities.
Ricardo: The continued development of LATAM's premium offering, together with its loyalty program and the network strength, allow the group to capture more resilient and higher-value demand, further supporting the sustainability of the financial performance, even in the face of a complex macroeconomic scenario. Please join me on the next slide 7. LATAM's strong performance was effectively translated into solid cash generation during the quarter. At the start of the year, the company generated $858 million in adjusted operating cash flow, reflecting the operational strength already discussed. After accounting for CapEx net of financing of $291 million, as well as financial expenses and other items, LATAM generated close to $480 million in cash.
Ricardo Bottas: The continued development of LATAM's premium offering, together with its loyalty program and the network strength, allow the group to capture more resilient and higher-value demand, further supporting the sustainability of the financial performance, even in the face of a complex macroeconomic scenario. Please join me on the next slide 7. LATAM's strong performance was effectively translated into solid cash generation during the quarter. At the start of the year, the company generated $858 million in adjusted operating cash flow, reflecting the operational strength already discussed. After accounting for CapEx net of financing of $291 million, as well as financial expenses and other items, LATAM generated close to $480 million in cash.
Speaker #2: Let's move to the next slide, slide eight. In the current context, of, elevated fuel prices and ongoing macro volatility having a strong and lean balance sheet drivers competitiveness, this continues to be a key differentiator for LATAM.
Speaker #2: Matched with these, LATAM has proactively managed its maturity profile, resulting in a no-relevance short and mid-term maturities and a well-structured debt scaddle. Importantly, all debt is now under market conditions, with no remaining legacy from Chapter 11 process, further streamlining the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: The group closed the quarter with liquidity of $4.1 billion and an adjusted net leverage of 4.5, supported by consistent cash flow generation, which remains at the core of the financial strategy.
Speaker #2: This provides both visibility and financial flexibility going forward, which is also reflected in the GROUP's credit profile. With all major ratings agencies now assigning ratings in the BB+ category, sorry, BB category, with a positive outlook following Moody's outlook upgrade in March and Fitch's reaffirmation of its rating and outlook in April.
Speaker #2: Additionally, in in a scenario of longer than heightened volatility, the group maintains significant financial optionality through its asset basis, with more than 1.5 billion dollars in unencumbered assets, providing for flexibility to navigate the cycle and act on opportunities.
Ricardo: During this period, paid amount to $90 million related with the inter-dividend distributed in December 2025, which given operational payments timing, were partially executed in January, this $89 million you see in the column. As a result, LATAM closed the quarter with a net cash generation of $391 million. This cash performance remain consistent with what we've seen in the previous quarters, where strong operating results are effectively converted into liquidity, which in the current context becomes a key source of strength, allowing LATAM to maintain a position of confidence in its financial standing while navigating in an environment with higher uncertainty. Let's move to the next slide 8.
Ricardo Bottas: During this period, paid amount to $90 million related with the inter-dividend distributed in December 2025, which given operational payments timing, were partially executed in January, this $89 million you see in the column. As a result, LATAM closed the quarter with a net cash generation of $391 million. This cash performance remain consistent with what we've seen in the previous quarters, where strong operating results are effectively converted into liquidity, which in the current context becomes a key source of strength, allowing LATAM to maintain a position of confidence in its financial standing while navigating in an environment with higher uncertainty. Let's move to the next slide 8.
Speaker #2: And with this, LATAM has proactively managed its maturity profile, resulting in no-relevant short- and mid-term maturity. And, well-structured debt schedule—importantly, all debt is now under market conditions, with no remaining legacy from the Chapter 11 process, further streamlining the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: Now on slide nine, and given the recent increase in volatility, particularly in fuel prices and the more limited visibility in the current environment, the company has decided to replace its previous full year 2026 guidance with a more focused set of metrics.
Speaker #2: This provides both visibility and financial flexibility going forward, which is also reflected in the group's credit profile, with all major ratings agencies now assigning ratings in the double B plus category, sorry, double B category, with a positive outlook following Moody's Outlook upgrade in March and Fitch's reaffirmation of its rating and outlook in April.
Speaker #2: While the previous 2026 guidance assumed an average jet fuel of $90 per barrel in a context that remains highly dynamic, LATAM's new guidance is based on a very specific set of assumptions.
Speaker #2: Regarding fuel prices, the expected price for each of the remaining quarters on the year is provided in a stable demand environment, consistent with what we observe so far is assumed, and both are incorporated into new guidance.
Speaker #2: Now on slide nine, and given the recent, increase in volatility, particularly in fuel prices and the more limited visibility in the current environment, the company has decided to replace its previous full year 2026 guidance with a more focused set of metrics.
Ricardo: In the current context, of elevated fuel prices and ongoing macro volatility, having a strong and lean balance sheet drives competitiveness, and this continues to be a key differentiator for LATAM. The group closed the quarter with liquidity of $4.1 billion and an adjusted net leverage of 1.3 times, supported by consistent cash flow generation, which remains at the core of the financial strategy. Additionally, in a scenario of prolonged and heightened volatility, the group maintains significant financial optionality through its asset base, with more than $1.5 billion in unencumbered assets, providing further flexibility to navigate the cycle and act on opportunities. Matched with this, LATAM has proactively managed its maturity profile, resulting in no relevant short- and mid-term maturities and a well-structured debt schedule.
Ricardo Bottas: In the current context, of elevated fuel prices and ongoing macro volatility, having a strong and lean balance sheet drives competitiveness, and this continues to be a key differentiator for LATAM. The group closed the quarter with liquidity of $4.1 billion and an adjusted net leverage of 1.3 times, supported by consistent cash flow generation, which remains at the core of the financial strategy. Additionally, in a scenario of prolonged and heightened volatility, the group maintains significant financial optionality through its asset base, with more than $1.5 billion in unencumbered assets, providing further flexibility to navigate the cycle and act on opportunities. Matched with this, LATAM has proactively managed its maturity profile, resulting in no relevant short- and mid-term maturities and a well-structured debt schedule.
Speaker #2: The assumptions for the next quarter is going to be 107 dollars for the Q2 and Q3, and 150 dollars for Q4. Regarding passenger unit cost X fuel, this has been updated to a higher range of 4.5 and 4.7 cents compared to the previous guidance.
Speaker #2: While the previous 2026 guidance assumed an average jet fuel of $90 per barrel in the context that remains highly, highly dynamic, LATAM's previous guidance is based on a very specific set of assumptions.
Speaker #2: Which is explained by the appreciation of local currency, and in particular, the Brazilian real, now expected to be 5.15 Brazilian reais per US dollar, compared to the previous assumptions of 5.5.
Speaker #2: Regarding fuel prices, the expected price for each of the remaining quarters on the year is provided in a stable demand environment, consistent with what we observe so far is assumed, both are incorporated into new guidance.
Speaker #2: On the adjusted EBITDA side, LATAM expected a range between 3.8 and 4.2 billion dollars, which incorporates the estimated impact of higher fuel prices. Supported by the levers already discussed, including the strength of the network, the ability to capture premium demand through LATAM's differentiated value proposition, and its fuel price management strategy.
Speaker #2: The assumption for the next quarter is going to be 170 dollars for the Q2 and Q3, and 150 dollars for Q4, regarding passenger unit CAPEX fuel.
Speaker #2: It has been updated to a higher range of 4.5 and 4.7 cents compared to the previous guidance. Guidance, which is explained by the appreciation of local currency, in particular the Brazilian real, now expected to be 5.15 Brazilian reals per US dollar compared to the previous assumptions of 5.5.
Ricardo: Importantly, all debt is now under market conditions with no remaining legacy from Chapter 11 process, further streamlining the balance sheet. This provides both visibility and financial flexibility going forward, which is also reflected in the group's credit profile, with all major ratings agencies now assigning ratings in the double B plus category, Sorry, double B category, with a positive outlook following Moody's outlook upgrade in March and Fitch reaffirmation of its rating and outlook in April. Now on slide 9. Given the recent increase in volatility, particularly in fuel prices and the more limited visibility in the current environment, the company has decided to replace its previous full year 2026 guidance with a more focused set of metrics.
Ricardo Bottas: Importantly, all debt is now under market conditions with no remaining legacy from Chapter 11 process, further streamlining the balance sheet. This provides both visibility and financial flexibility going forward, which is also reflected in the group's credit profile, with all major ratings agencies now assigning ratings in the double B plus category, Sorry, double B category, with a positive outlook following Moody's outlook upgrade in March and Fitch reaffirmation of its rating and outlook in April. Now on slide 9. Given the recent increase in volatility, particularly in fuel prices and the more limited visibility in the current environment, the company has decided to replace its previous full year 2026 guidance with a more focused set of metrics.
Speaker #2: LATAM's balance sheet strength is also reflected in the updated net leverage metric, which is expected to be somewhat higher than previous guidance, but below the company's financial policy target limit.
Speaker #2: On the adjusted data side, LATAM expected a range between 3.8 and 4.2 billion dollars, which incorporates the estimated impact of higher fuel prices. Supported by the leverage already discussed, including the strength of the network, the ability to capture premium demand through LATAM's differentiated value proposition, and its fuel price management strategy.
Speaker #2: Estimating the net leverage below or equal to 1.8 times. Regarding liquidity, the new guidance is lower than the previous presented, mainly explained by the impact of higher fuel prices.
Speaker #2: Nevertheless, liquidity is expected to remain at or above 4.5 billion dollars. Once again, demonstrating the company's strength in terms of financial flexibility and balance sheet resilience.
Speaker #2: LATAM's balance sheet strength is also reflected in the updated net leverage metric, which is expected to be somewhat higher than previous guidance, but still a very healthy level and well below the company's financial policy target limit.
Speaker #2: In the near term, and given the current level of visibility, LATAM expected additional fuel expenses of more than 700 million dollars for the second quarter of 2026, assuming a jet fuel price, as I have mentioned before, of 107 dollars per barrel.
Speaker #2: Estimating the net leverage below or equal to 1.8 times. Regarding liquidity, the new guidance is lower than the previous presented, mainly explained by the impact of higher fuel prices.
Ricardo: While the previous 2026 guidance assumed an average jet fuel of $90 per barrel in a context that remains highly dynamic, LATAM's new guidance is based on a very specific set of assumptions. Regarding fuel prices, the expected price for each of the remaining quarters on the year is provided in a stable demand environment. Consistent with what we observe so far is assuming, and both are incorporated into new guidance. The assumptions for the next quarter is gonna be $107 for the Q2 and Q3 and $150 for Q4.
Ricardo Bottas: While the previous 2026 guidance assumed an average jet fuel of $90 per barrel in a context that remains highly dynamic, LATAM's new guidance is based on a very specific set of assumptions. Regarding fuel prices, the expected price for each of the remaining quarters on the year is provided in a stable demand environment. Consistent with what we observe so far is assuming, and both are incorporated into new guidance. The assumptions for the next quarter is gonna be $107 for the Q2 and Q3 and $150 for Q4.
Speaker #2: Despite the significant fuel impact, LATAM expected to deliver a mid to low single-digit adjusted operating margin in the second quarter. Overall, while the environment remains dynamic, LATAM is navigating this context with a discipline and measured approach, leveraging the strength of its business model.
Speaker #2: Nevertheless, liquidity is expected to remain at or above $4.5 billion, once again demonstrating the company's strength in terms of financial flexibility and balance sheet resilience.
Speaker #2: In the near term, and given the current level of visibility, LATAM expects additional fuel expenses of more than 700 million dollars for the second quarter of 2026, assuming jet fuel prices that I have mentioned before of 770 dollars per barrel.
Speaker #2: Let me conclude with a few key takeaways and methods on the last slide, slide 10. The first quarter results reflect a very strong performance for LATAM, achieving the context of a healthy and resilient demand environment, particularly during the high season, which provides a solid starting point for the rest of the year.
Speaker #2: Despite this significant fuel impact, LATAM expected to deliver a mid to low single-digit adjusted operating margin in the second quarter. Overall, while the environment remains dynamic, LATAM is navigating this context with discipline and measured approach.
Ricardo: Regarding passenger unit cost ex-fuel, this has been updated to a higher range of $0.045 and $0.047 compared to the previous guidance, which is explained by the appreciation of local currency, in particular the Brazilian real, now expected to be BRL 5.15 per US dollar compared to the previous assumptions of BRL 5.5. On the adjusted EBITDA side, LATAM expected a range between $3.8 billion and $4.2 billion, which incorporates the estimated impact of higher fuel prices, supported by the levers already discussed, including the strength of the network, the ability to capture premium demand through LATAM's differentiated value proposition, and its fuel price management strategy.
Ricardo Bottas: Regarding passenger unit cost ex-fuel, this has been updated to a higher range of $0.045 and $0.047 compared to the previous guidance, which is explained by the appreciation of local currency, in particular the Brazilian real, now expected to be BRL 5.15 per US dollar compared to the previous assumptions of BRL 5.5. On the adjusted EBITDA side, LATAM expected a range between $3.8 billion and $4.2 billion, which incorporates the estimated impact of higher fuel prices, supported by the levers already discussed, including the strength of the network, the ability to capture premium demand through LATAM's differentiated value proposition, and its fuel price management strategy.
Speaker #2: All of these find LATAM in the strongest financial position in its history, allowing the GROUP to face the current macroeconomic environment from a position of financial strength, even as fuel price pressures begin to materialize in the coming quarters.
Speaker #2: Leveraging the strength of its business model, let me conclude with a few, key takeaways and methods on the last slide, slide 10. The first quarter results reflect a very strong performance for LATAM, achieving the context of a healthy and resilient demand environment, particularly during the high season, which provides a solid starting point for the rest of the year.
Speaker #2: In this context, LATAM benefits from both relative and structural advantages. At the core of this is a differentiated increasingly premium offering, combined with a strong network, which allows the GROUP to access a demand base that is structurally less elastic and therefore nailing the GROUP to pass through costs more effectively.
Speaker #2: All of these find LATAM in the strongest financial position in its history, allowing the group to face the current macroeconomic environment from a position of financial strength, even as fuel price pressures begin to materialize in the coming quarters.
Speaker #2: At the same time, LATAM operates today with a lean and strengthened balance sheet, with high liquidity, low leverage, no short and mid-term maturities, with assets in significant flexibility and optionality to navigate in a more volatile environment.
Ricardo: LATAM's balance sheet strength is also reflected in the updated net leverage metric, which is expected to be somewhat higher than previous guidance, but still at very healthy levels and well below the company's financial policy target limit, estimating the net leverage below or equal to 1.8x. Regarding liquidity, the new guidance is lower than the previous presented, mainly explained by the impact of higher fuel prices. Nevertheless, liquidity is expected to remain at or above $4.5 billion, once again demonstrating the company's strength in terms of financial flexibility and balance sheet resilience. In the near term, and given the current level of visibility, LATAM expects additional fuel expenses of more than $700 million for Q2 2026, assuming a jet fuel price, as I have mentioned before, of $107 per barrel.
Ricardo Bottas: LATAM's balance sheet strength is also reflected in the updated net leverage metric, which is expected to be somewhat higher than previous guidance, but still at very healthy levels and well below the company's financial policy target limit, estimating the net leverage below or equal to 1.8x. Regarding liquidity, the new guidance is lower than the previous presented, mainly explained by the impact of higher fuel prices. Nevertheless, liquidity is expected to remain at or above $4.5 billion, once again demonstrating the company's strength in terms of financial flexibility and balance sheet resilience. In the near term, and given the current level of visibility, LATAM expects additional fuel expenses of more than $700 million for Q2 2026, assuming a jet fuel price, as I have mentioned before, of $107 per barrel.
Speaker #2: In this context, LATAM benefits from both relative and structural advantages. At the core of this is a differentiated, increasingly premium offering, combined with a strong network, which allows the group to access a demand base that is structurally less elastic and therefore enabling the group to pass through costs more effectively.
Speaker #2: LATAM approached the coming months with discipline and confidence, supported by its experience in navigating volatility and the robustness of its business model. While maintaining a prudent stance in light of its fuel challenge and dynamic macroeconomic environment.
Speaker #2: At the same time, LATAM operates today with a lean and strengthened balance sheet, with high liquidity, low leverage, no short- and mid-term maturities, with assets and significant flexibility and optionality to navigate in a more volatile environment.
Speaker #2: Thank you, and let's open the line for questions. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press start followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If you feel your question has been answered or for any reason you would like to remove yourself from the queue, please press start followed by two.
Speaker #2: LATAM approaches the coming months with discipline and confidence, supported by its experience in navigating volatility and the robustness of its business model, while maintaining a prudent sense in light of a fuel challenge and dynamic macroeconomic environment.
Speaker #1: When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from Guillermo Mendez from JP Morgan. Your line is now open.
Speaker #2: Thank you, and let's open the line for questions. Thank you. Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press start, followed by 1 on your telephone keypad now.
Ricardo: Despite the significant fuel impact, LATAM expects to deliver a mid to low single-digit adjusted operating margin in Q2. While the environment remains dynamic, LATAM is navigating this context with a disciplined and measured approach, leveraging the strength of its business model. Let me conclude with a few key takeaways and messages on the last slide 10. The Q1 results reflect a very strong performance for LATAM, achieved in the context of a healthy and resilient demand environment, particularly during the high season, which provides a solid starting point for the rest of the year. All of this finds LATAM in the strongest financial position in its history, allowing the group to face the current macroeconomic environment from a position of financial strength, even as fuel price pressures begin to materialize in the coming quarters.
Ricardo Bottas: Despite the significant fuel impact, LATAM expects to deliver a mid to low single-digit adjusted operating margin in Q2. While the environment remains dynamic, LATAM is navigating this context with a disciplined and measured approach, leveraging the strength of its business model. Let me conclude with a few key takeaways and messages on the last slide 10. The Q1 results reflect a very strong performance for LATAM, achieved in the context of a healthy and resilient demand environment, particularly during the high season, which provides a solid starting point for the rest of the year. All of this finds LATAM in the strongest financial position in its history, allowing the group to face the current macroeconomic environment from a position of financial strength, even as fuel price pressures begin to materialize in the coming quarters.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: If you feel your question has been answered or for any reason you would like to remove yourself from the queue, please press start, followed by 2.
Speaker #2: Yes. Thank you all. Good morning. Roberto Ricardo Andres and Tori. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one's on the guidance. Whatever you can share in terms of top-line assumptions, thinking of you mentioned capacity adjustments, you'd increase.
Speaker #2: When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from Guillermo Mendez from JP Morgan. Your line is now open.
Speaker #2: So if you can provide a reference of how much, even if a ballpark, you are anticipating for the year. And the second point, it's on thinking about the price increases.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Yes, thank you all. Good morning, Jorge Ricardo and the inventory. thank you for taking my question. the first one's on the guidance, whatever you can share in terms of top-line assumptions in terms of commission capacity adjustments you increased.
Speaker #2: If you can share how each of the different segments think about leisure, corporate, or different regions are performing following this increase on prices. Thank you.
Speaker #3: So if you can provide a reference of how much, if anything, more you are, anticipating, for the year. And, and the second point, it's on thinking about the, the, the price increases.
Speaker #3: Hi, Guillermo. Good morning. This is Roberto. So the first question, we're not providing top-line and capacity guidance because we see those figures are slightly more volatile than a bit there at the end of the day.
Speaker #3: If you can share how each of the different segments think about leisure, corporate, or different regions are performing, following this, increase in prices. Thank you.
Ricardo: In this context, LATAM benefits from both relative and structural advantages. At the core of this is a differentiated increasing premium offering, combined with a strong network, which allows the group to access a demand base that is structurally less elastic and therefore enabling the group to pass through costs more effectively. At the same time, LATAM operates today with a lean and strengthened balance sheet, with high liquidity, low leverage, no short and mid-term maturities, with assets and significant flexibility and optionality to navigate in a more volatile environment. LATAM approaches the coming months with discipline and confidence, supported by its experience in navigating volatility and the robustness of its business model, while maintaining a prudent stance in light of a fuel challenge and dynamic macroeconomic environment. Thank you. Let's open the line for questions. Thank you.
Ricardo Bottas: In this context, LATAM benefits from both relative and structural advantages. At the core of this is a differentiated increasing premium offering, combined with a strong network, which allows the group to access a demand base that is structurally less elastic and therefore enabling the group to pass through costs more effectively. At the same time, LATAM operates today with a lean and strengthened balance sheet, with high liquidity, low leverage, no short and mid-term maturities, with assets and significant flexibility and optionality to navigate in a more volatile environment. LATAM approaches the coming months with discipline and confidence, supported by its experience in navigating volatility and the robustness of its business model, while maintaining a prudent stance in light of a fuel challenge and dynamic macroeconomic environment. Thank you. Let's open the line for questions. Thank you.
Speaker #3: I think that the industry will adjust capacity to try to balance results going further. So that's why we are focusing on a set of metrics that we believe give a good picture of the resilience of the model without trying to forecast variables that are going to be difficult to forecast.
Speaker #4: Hi, Guillermo. Good morning. This is Roberto. so the first question, we're not providing top-line and capacity guidance because we see those figures are slightly more volatile than we are at the end of the day.
Speaker #4: I think that the industry will adjust capacity, to try to balance results going further. so that's why we are focusing on a set of metrics that we believe, give a good picture of the resilience of the model without, trying to forecast variables that are going to be useful to forecast.
Speaker #3: Having said that, I think it's fair to expect that if high-level fuel prices continue, we will see bigger capacity adjustments throughout the industry. And particularly in the region.
Speaker #3: And I think that you can fairly estimate a potential revenue profile with that assumption having the other metrics that we provided. In terms of the segments, so first and foremost, solid demand and stable demand environment throughout the network.
Speaker #4: Having said that, I think it's fair to expect that if high-level fuel prices continue, we'll see bigger capacity adjustments throughout the industry, and particularly in the region.
Speaker #4: And I think that you can fairly estimate a potential revenue profile with that assumption, having the other metrics that we provided. In, in terms of the segments, so first and foremost, solid demand and stable demand environment throughout the network.
Speaker #3: We haven't seen particular places where the macro environment has affected demand. We see a strong and stable corporate segment in almost every country. International and domestic Brazil probably stand out as slightly stronger.
Operator: Our first question comes from Guilherme Mendes from JP Morgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: We haven't seen particular places, where the macro environment has affected demand. we see a strong and stable corporate corporate, segment in, in almost, every country.
Speaker #3: Then the rest, but on average, everything looks very healthy. We have seen, of course, a little bit of a slowdown in the more elastic segments of demand.
Operator: Our first question comes from Guilherme Mendes from JP Morgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: International and domestic Brazil probably, stand out as slightly stronger. Then, then the rest, but on average, everything looks very healthy. We have seen, of course, a little bit of a slowdown in, the more elastic segment of demand.
Speaker #3: The good thing is that today this is comprising less and less of the number of passengers of LATAM, and they're easily compensated with different points of sale points of sale origins that we have in the network.
Guilherme Mendes: Yes. Thank you all. Good morning, Roberto, Ricardo, Andres, and Tori. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one is on the guidance. Whatever you can share in terms of top-line assumptions in terms of you mentioned capacity adjustments you would increase, if you can provide a reference of how much, even if it's a ballpark, you are anticipating for the year. The second point is on, I think about the price increases. If you can share how each of the different segments, think about leisure, corporate, where different regions are performing, following this increase on prices. Thank you.
Guilherme Mendes: Yes. Thank you all. Good morning, Roberto, Ricardo, Andres, and Tori. Thanks for taking my questions. The first one is on the guidance. Whatever you can share in terms of top-line assumptions in terms of you mentioned capacity adjustments you would increase, if you can provide a reference of how much, even if it's a ballpark, you are anticipating for the year. The second point is on, I think about the price increases. If you can share how each of the different segments, think about leisure, corporate, where different regions are performing, following this increase on prices. Thank you.
Speaker #4: The good thing is that today this is comprising less and less of, of the number of passengers of LATAM, and they're easily compensated with, different points of sale, points of sale, origins that we have in the network.
Speaker #3: I think that large networks in this particular environment are in general much more what is the word in English? Sustainable than smaller networks. But as the long AP in the beginning of the quarter, when fair increases, you could see an impact on long AP.
Speaker #4: I think that large networks in this particular environment are in general much more, what is the word in English? Sustainable than small networks. but, as the longer the in the beginning of the quarter, when fare increases, you could see an impact on longer the, as the quarter has progressed, you see the filling up of the aircraft nicely even though from those initial lower levels.
Speaker #3: As the quarter has progressed, you see the filling up of the aircraft nicely, even though from those initial lower levels. And this is, in my mind, a function of the diversification of the points of origin and the ONDs that the LATAM's network can provide.
Ricardo: Hi, Guilherme. Good morning. This is Roberto. First question, we're not providing top-line and capacity guidance because we see those figures are slightly more volatile than EBITDA. At the end of the day, I think that the industry will adjust capacity to try to balance results going further. That's why we are focusing on a set of metrics that we believe give a good picture of the resilience of the model without trying to forecast variables that are going to be difficult to forecast. Having said that, I think it's fair to expect that if high-level fuel prices continue, we will see bigger capacity adjustments throughout the industry and particularly in the region. I think that you can fairly estimate a potential revenue profile with that assumption, having the other measures that we provided.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Hi, Guilherme. Good morning. This is Roberto. First question, we're not providing top-line and capacity guidance because we see those figures are slightly more volatile than EBITDA. At the end of the day, I think that the industry will adjust capacity to try to balance results going further. That's why we are focusing on a set of metrics that we believe give a good picture of the resilience of the model without trying to forecast variables that are going to be difficult to forecast. Having said that, I think it's fair to expect that if high-level fuel prices continue, we will see bigger capacity adjustments throughout the industry and particularly in the region. I think that you can fairly estimate a potential revenue profile with that assumption, having the other measures that we provided.
Speaker #3: So in general, the picture looks stable. The forward bookings for the remainder of the quarter have not been affected by anything that we've seen outside of the industry.
Speaker #4: And this is, in my mind, a function of the diversification of the points of origin and the ONDs that the LATAM network provides. So in general, the picture looks stable.
Speaker #4: The forward the forward bookings for the remainder of the quarter, have not been affected by anything we've seen outside of, of, of the industry.
Speaker #3: So in that context, we remain positive. Thank you.
Speaker #2: That's very clear. Thank you. Roberto. Have a nice day.
Speaker #4: So, in that context, we remain positive. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Linenberg from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: That's very clear. Thank you, Jorge Ricardo. Have a nice day.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Lindenberg from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Oh, hi. Good morning. This is Shannon Doherty. I'm from Mike. Congrats on the record results. So we would just follow up on your last response.
Speaker #5: Hello. Good morning. This is Shanda Oyan from RAI. Congrats on the record results. so we would just follow up on, on your last response.
Speaker #4: You just mentioned potential slowdown in the more demand elastic segments. Can you dig in deeper there and with premium revenue now at 27% of total, what is your long-term target?
Ricardo: In terms of the segments, first and foremost, solid demand.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: In terms of the segments, first and foremost, solid demand. Stable demand environment throughout the network. We haven't seen particular places where the macro environment has affected demand. We see a strong and stable corporate segment in almost every country. International and domestic Brazil probably stand out as slightly stronger than the rest. On average, everything looks very healthy. We have seen, of course, a little bit of a slowdown in the more elastic segments of demand. The good thing is that today this is comprising less and less of the number of passengers of LATAM, and they're easily compensated with different point of sale points of sale origins that we have in the network. I think that large networks in this particular environment are, in general, much more, what is the word in English? Sustainable than smaller networks.
Speaker #5: You just mentioned, you know, potential slowdown in the more demand-elastic segments. Can you dig in deeper there and, you know, with premium right now at 27% of total, what is your long-term target?
Roberto: Stable demand environment throughout the network. We haven't seen particular places where the macro environment has affected demand. We see a strong and stable corporate segment in almost every country. International and domestic Brazil probably stand out as slightly stronger than the rest. On average, everything looks very healthy. We have seen, of course, a little bit of a slowdown in the more elastic segments of demand. The good thing is that today this is comprising less and less of the number of passengers of LATAM, and they're easily compensated with different point of sale points of sale origins that we have in the network. I think that large networks in this particular environment are, in general, much more, what is the word in English? Sustainable than smaller networks.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #3: So yes. I mean, I think it's absolutely normal to see slowdown in more elastic segments. On the other hand, I think that airlines that tailor to more elastic segments in general are decreasing capacity faster than airlines that don't have that exposure.
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Speaker #4: So yes, I mean, I think it's absolutely normal to see slowdown in the more elastic segments. On the other hand, I think that airlines that tailor to more elastic segments in general are decreasing capacity faster than airlines that don't have that exposure.
Speaker #3: So that balances out in a way this slowdown in demand and at the end of the day, I think benefits companies that LATAM that can fill their planes with higher quality passengers in the other moments of the curve and in the other segments.
Speaker #4: So that balance is out in a way this slowdown in demand at the end of the day, I think, benefits companies that LATAM that can fill their planes with higher with higher, quality passengers in, in, in, in, in the other moments of the curve and in the other segments.
Speaker #3: So it's a total manageable situation given what we have. And I think that what we're seeing here is very clear. Airlines that are more exposed to more elastic segments, airlines that have weaker balance sheet are going to probably be more exposed to the current situation.
Speaker #4: So, so it's, it's a total manageable situation given what we have. And, I think that what we're seeing here is very clear. Airlines that are more exposed to more elastic segments airlines that have weaker balance sheet are going to probably be, more exposed to the current situation.
Roberto: As the long AP in the beginning of the quarter, when fare increases, you could see an impact on long AP. As the quarter has progressed, you see the filling up of the aircraft nicely, even though from those initial lower levels. This is, in my mind, a function of the diversification of the points of origin and the ONDs that the LATAM's network can provide. In general, the picture looks stable. The forward bookings for the remainder of the quarter have not been affected by anything that we've seen outside of the industry. In that context, we remain positive. Thank you.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: As the long AP in the beginning of the quarter, when fare increases, you could see an impact on long AP. As the quarter has progressed, you see the filling up of the aircraft nicely, even though from those initial lower levels. This is, in my mind, a function of the diversification of the points of origin and the ONDs that the LATAM's network can provide. In general, the picture looks stable. The forward bookings for the remainder of the quarter have not been affected by anything that we've seen outside of the industry. In that context, we remain positive. Thank you.
Speaker #3: LATAM's absolute and relative advantage is clearly stand out in this particular scenario. Second question was long-term premium revenues target. So we don't provide a public target of long-term premium revenues.
Speaker #4: LATAM's absolute and relative advantage a-advantage is clearly stand out in this particular scenario. Second question was, long-term premium revenue target. So we don't we don't provide a public target of long-term premium revenues.
Speaker #4: I think that expectation we have is to continue to go premium revenues faster than total revenues regard the pointed out to that stat for the first quarter.
Speaker #3: I think that the expectation we have is to continue to grow premium revenues faster than total revenues. Ricardo pointed out to that stat for the first quarter.
Speaker #4: We haven't seen at this point in time any slowdown in this trend, and it's been already over several quarters that we have seen that, outpacing of, premium premium travelers, vis-à-vis the rest.
Speaker #3: We haven't seen at this point in time any slowdown in this trend, and it's been already over several quarters that we have seen that outpacing of premium travelers vis-à-vis the rest.
Speaker #4: And, I think that the delivery of our product, the way we're managing the network, the, the quality of the experience today, the FFP, all these features point out that we can continue seeing that, different, balance vis-à-vis the past going forward.
Speaker #3: And I think that the delivery of our product, the way we're managing the network, the quality of the experience today, the FFP, all these features point out that we can continue seeing that different balance vis-à-vis the past going forward.
Guilherme Mendes: That's very clear. Thank you, Roberto. Have a nice day.
Guilherme Mendes: That's very clear. Thank you, Roberto. Have a nice day.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Linenberg from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Linenberg from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Great.
Speaker #5: Thank you. And, and how much on the higher fuel costs for your capturing during the June quarter? Do you expect the fuel you're capturing higher fuel at the end of this year as we've heard from some of the US airlines?
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Shannon Doherty: Oh, hi, good morning. This is Shannon Doherty on for Mike. Congrats on the record results. Maybe just a follow-up on your last response. You just mentioned, you know, potential slowdown in the more demand elastic segments. Can you dig in deeper there? You know, with premium revenue now at 27% of total, what is your long-term target? Thanks.
Shannon Doherty: Oh, hi, good morning. This is Shannon Doherty on for Mike. Congrats on the record results. Maybe just a follow-up on your last response. You just mentioned, you know, potential slowdown in the more demand elastic segments. Can you dig in deeper there? You know, with premium revenue now at 27% of total, what is your long-term target? Thanks.
Speaker #4: Great. Thank you. And how much on the higher fuel costs are you capturing during the June quarter? Do you expect to fully capture higher fuel by the end of this year like we've heard from some of the US airlines?
Speaker #5: Thanks for taking the question.
Speaker #4: I, again, w-we don't provide that specific information, but, I think that with the mid to low single-digit operating margin figure together with the fuel spend that we are telling you guys that we're gonna have in the second quarter, you can estimate relatively well the, the, the impact of fuel and pass through that we are seeing for the quarter.
Speaker #4: Thanks for taking the question.
Speaker #3: Again, we don't provide that specific information, but I think that with the mid to low single-digit operating margin figure together with the fuel spent that we are telling you guys that we're going to have in the second quarter, you can estimate relatively well the impact of fuel and pass-through that we are seeing for the quarter.
Roberto: Yes, I mean, I think it's absolutely normal to see slowdown in more elastic segments. On the other hand, I think that airlines that tailor to more elastic segments in general are decreasing capacity faster than airlines that don't have that exposure. That balances out, in a way, this slowdown in demand, and at the end of the day, I think benefits companies like LATAM that can fill their planes with higher quality passengers in the other moments of the curve and in the other segments. It's a total manageable situation given what we have. I think that what we're seeing here is very clear, no. Airlines that are more exposed to more elastic segments, airlines that have weaker balance sheet are going to probably be more exposed to the current situation.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Yes, I mean, I think it's absolutely normal to see slowdown in more elastic segments. On the other hand, I think that airlines that tailor to more elastic segments in general are decreasing capacity faster than airlines that don't have that exposure. That balances out, in a way, this slowdown in demand, and at the end of the day, I think benefits companies like LATAM that can fill their planes with higher quality passengers in the other moments of the curve and in the other segments. It's a total manageable situation given what we have. I think that what we're seeing here is very clear, no. Airlines that are more exposed to more elastic segments, airlines that have weaker balance sheet are going to probably be more exposed to the current situation.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Andre Ferraria from Bradesco. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Andre Ferreria from Bradesco. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Hi. good morning. So, one quick question here. So if, if you could comment on the forward booking curve, I guess, in a previous question commented on the specifically for the second quarter.
Speaker #5: Hi. Good morning. So one quick question here. So if you could comment on the forward booking curve, I guess in a previous question you commented on the specifically for the second quarter.
Speaker #3: But, in general, how, how are you seeing it? is it shorter? If so, do you believe it's more due to, like a permanent price sensitivity, or is it more due to passengers kind of wishing or waiting for fares to go down, closer to the trip?
Speaker #5: But in general, how are you seeing it? Is it shorter? And if so, do you believe it's more due to a permanent price sensitivity, or is it more due to passengers kind of wishing or waiting for fares to go down closer to the trip?
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Roberto: LATAM's absolute and relative advantages clearly stand out in this particular scenario. Second question was long-term premium revenues target. We don't provide a public target of long-term premium revenues. I think that the expectation we have is to continue to grow premium revenues faster than total revenues. Ricardo pointed out to that stat for the first quarter. We haven't seen, at this point in time, any slowdown in this trend, and it's been already over several quarters that we have seen that outpacing of premium travelers vis-a-vis the rest. I think that the delivery of our product, the way we're managing the network, the quality of the experience today, the FFP, all these features point out that we can continue seeing that different balance vis-a-vis the past going forward. Thank you.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: LATAM's absolute and relative advantages clearly stand out in this particular scenario. Second question was long-term premium revenues target. We don't provide a public target of long-term premium revenues. I think that the expectation we have is to continue to grow premium revenues faster than total revenues. Ricardo pointed out to that stat for the first quarter. We haven't seen, at this point in time, any slowdown in this trend, and it's been already over several quarters that we have seen that outpacing of premium travelers vis-a-vis the rest. I think that the delivery of our product, the way we're managing the network, the quality of the experience today, the FFP, all these features point out that we can continue seeing that different balance vis-a-vis the past going forward. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Hi, Andre. again, I'm, you know, significant amounts of the passengers we fly are domestic passengers which have relatively low APs. So the visibility we have on the booking curve doesn't go too much further away than a couple of months, maybe the international a little bit more.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Hi, Andre. Again, I mean, significant amount of the passengers we fly are domestic passengers which have relatively low APs. So the visibility we have on the booking curve doesn't go too much further away than a couple of months, maybe the international a little bit more.
Speaker #4: so in, in the visibility we have, which is the rest of the second quarter and probably the first peak on the high season in the July, winter holidays for us in this part of the world, it looks healthy in general.
Speaker #3: So in the visibility we have, which is the rest of the second quarter and probably the first peak on the high season in the July winter holidays for us in this part of the world, it looks healthy in general.
Speaker #4: July, it's an important month just as January are because it's holiday time in, in the southern hemisphere. And, the first indications we have on bookings for July look healthy as well.
Speaker #4: But, beyond that, it's, it's still very early to, to get a sense on how the planes will feel. We'll see that in the upcoming weeks.
Speaker #3: July is an important month just as January are because it's holiday time in the Southern Hemisphere. And the first indications we have on bookings for July look healthy as well.
Speaker #3: Perfect. Thank you. in effect.
Speaker #3: But beyond that, it's still very early to get a sense on how the planes will feel. We'll see that in the upcoming weeks.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #3: We're just squeezing another one. If you could comment on can you hear me?
Shannon Doherty: Great. Thank you. How much on the higher fuel costs are you capturing during the Q2? Do you expect to fully capture higher fuel by the end of this year, like we've heard from some of the US airlines? Thanks for taking the question.
Shannon Doherty: Great. Thank you. How much on the higher fuel costs are you capturing during the Q2? Do you expect to fully capture higher fuel by the end of this year, like we've heard from some of the US airlines? Thanks for taking the question.
Speaker #4: Yes. Yes, we can.
Speaker #3: Oh, yeah. So if you could, could just com okay. Thank you. If you could just comment on the on the competitive landscape across the region.
Speaker #5: Perfect. Thank you. In effect, we're just squeezing another one. If you could comment on can you hear me?
Speaker #3: So again, Brazil, we have Azul leaving Chapter 11, both with lower growth as per the plan. Fallout for a while now. So just, you know, how are, you know, the rest of the competition in Brazil behaving?
Roberto: Again, we don't provide that specific information, but I think that with the mid to low single-digit operating margin figure, together with the fuel spent that we are telling you guys that we're gonna have in Q2, you can estimate relatively well the impact of fuel and pass-through that we are seeing for the quarter. Thank you.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Again, we don't provide that specific information, but I think that with the mid to low single-digit operating margin figure, together with the fuel spent that we are telling you guys that we're gonna have in Q2, you can estimate relatively well the impact of fuel and pass-through that we are seeing for the quarter. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Yes. Yes, we can.
Speaker #5: Oh, yeah. So if you could just comment okay. Thank you. If you could just comment on the competitive landscape across the region. So I guess in Brazil, we have Azul leaving Chapter 11, but with lower growth as per the plan, call out for a while now.
Speaker #3: And on the other markets as well. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Andre. So we normally don't comment on competition. I, I get the two things that, that I can tell you. One is, you know, airlines publish their capacity and for you to see, capacity changes.
Speaker #5: So just how are the rest of the competition in Brazil behaving? And on the other markets as well. Thank you.
Speaker #4: We call week after week, as these crises progress. I think that what we are seeing in general is a a trend in downward capacity on most of the airlines in the region, including LATAM, by the way, in the second quarter vis-à-vis what, was published before February 27th.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from André Ferreira from Bradesco. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from André Ferreira from Bradesco. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Andre. So we normally don't comment on competition. I guess the two things that I can tell you, one is airlines publish their capacity and therefore you can see capacity changes.
André Ferreira: Hi. Good morning. One quick question here. If you could comment on the forward booking curve. I guess in a previous question you commented on more specifically for the second quarter. But in general, how are you seeing it? Is it shorter? And if so, do you believe it's more due to a, like, a permanent price sensitivity, or is it more due to passengers kind of wishing or waiting for fares to go down closer to the trip? Thank you.
André Ferreira: Hi. Good morning. One quick question here. If you could comment on the forward booking curve. I guess in a previous question you commented on more specifically for the second quarter. But in general, how are you seeing it? Is it shorter? And if so, do you believe it's more due to a, like, a permanent price sensitivity, or is it more due to passengers kind of wishing or waiting for fares to go down closer to the trip? Thank you.
Speaker #3: Week after week, as this crisis has progressed, I think that what we are seeing in general is a trend in downward capacity on most of the airlines in the region, including LATAM, by the way, in the second quarter vis-à-vis what was published before February 27th.
Speaker #4: I think that airlines or more than I think what we see because this is actually public information, what we see is, ULCCs decreasing capacity faster than players that have a better revenue quality average, if I can call it like that.
Speaker #4: I personally think that, with the environment like the one we are, using for the guidance, capacity may decrease, may accelerate to balance out the longer-term impact of demand.
Speaker #3: I think that airlines or more than I think what we see because this is actually public information, what we see is ULCCs decreasing capacity faster than players that have a better revenue quality average, if I can call it like that.
Roberto: Hi, Andre. Again, I mean, you know, significant amount of the passengers we fly are domestic passengers, which have relatively low APs. The visibility we have on the booking curve doesn't go too much further away than 2 months, maybe international a little bit more. In the visibility we have, which is the rest of Q2 and probably the 1st peak on the high season in the July winter holidays for us in this part of the world, it looks healthy in general. July is an important month, just as January are, because it's holiday time in the southern hemisphere, and the 1st indications we have on bookings for July look healthy as well. Beyond that, it's still very early to get a sense on how the planes will feel.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Hi, Andre. Again, I mean, you know, significant amount of the passengers we fly are domestic passengers, which have relatively low APs. The visibility we have on the booking curve doesn't go too much further away than 2 months, maybe international a little bit more. In the visibility we have, which is the rest of Q2 and probably the 1st peak on the high season in the July winter holidays for us in this part of the world, it looks healthy in general. July is an important month, just as January are, because it's holiday time in the southern hemisphere, and the 1st indications we have on bookings for July look healthy as well. Beyond that, it's still very early to get a sense on how the planes will feel. We'll see that in the upcoming weeks.
Speaker #4: In LATAM, it takes a the, the way we have looked at this particular guidance, we call it guidance, but, you know, this is nobody knows what this is going to go.
Speaker #4: We'd rather put ourselves in a scenario that looks a little bit more conservative than the forward curves and prepare for that. Then we will see how executed as the information goes through and, and, and the changes in the environment.
Speaker #3: I personally think that with an environment like the one we are using for the guidance, capacity may decreases, may accelerate to balance out the longer-term impact of demand.
Speaker #4: But, but we're taking this crisis seriously in the sense that it can there's a chance that it can last longer. And in that case, the whole organization needs to be prepared.
Speaker #3: In LATAM, it takes a the way we have looked at this particular guidance, we call it guidance, but this is nobody knows where this is going to go.
Speaker #4: If it gets better, and we have, I guess, positive news flows during the night yesterday, then we will adjust accordingly. But, for the time being, I guess that's, that's the assessment I can I can give you.
Speaker #3: We'd rather put ourselves in a scenario that looks a little bit more conservative than the forward curves and prepare for that. Then we will see how we execute as the information goes through and the changes in the environment.
Speaker #4: on, on how we see the dynamics of the market here. Thank you.
Speaker #3: But we're taking this crisis seriously in the sense that it can there's a chance that it can last longer. And in that case, the whole organization needs to be prepared.
Speaker #3: Very good. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. As a reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press start followed by one on your telephone, keypad now. Our next question comes from Gabriel Hazende from Ital, EBA.
Roberto: We'll see that in the upcoming weeks.
Speaker #3: If it gets better and we have I guess positive news flows during the night yesterday, then we will adjust accordingly. But for the time being, I guess that's the assessment I can give you.
André Ferreira: Perfect. Thank you.
André Ferreira: Perfect. Thank you.
Roberto: Thank you.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Thank you.
André Ferreira: Just squeeze in another one. If you could comment on. Can you hear me?
André Ferreira: Just squeeze in another one. If you could comment on. Can you hear me?
Speaker #2: Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: On how we see the dynamics of the market here. Thank you.
Roberto: Yes. Yes, we can.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Yes. Yes, we can.
André Ferreira: Oh, yeah. Okay, thank you. If you could just comment on the competitive landscape across the region. I guess in Brazil we have Azul leaving Chapter 11, but with lower growth as per the plan roll out for a while now. just, you know, how are, you know, the rest of the competition in Brazil behaving and on the other markets as well? Thank you.
André Ferreira: Oh, yeah. Okay, thank you. If you could just comment on the competitive landscape across the region. I guess in Brazil we have Azul leaving Chapter 11, but with lower growth as per the plan roll out for a while now. just, you know, how are, you know, the rest of the competition in Brazil behaving and on the other markets as well? Thank you.
Speaker #3: Hi. Good morning. so just following up on the, the impact into the second quarter, talking about fuel prices. we're trying to understand here what, what is LATAM, actually seeing in terms of fuel price increases just because we have seen some of the regions particularly Brazil, on which the prices are relevant, kind of is smoothing out the, the international, price trend for fuel prices into dig fuel.
Speaker #5: All right. Thanks. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. As a reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press start followed by one on your telephone keypad now. Our next question comes from Gabriel Hezende from Ital, BBA.
Speaker #1: Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: So, so just trying to understand whether the 700 million plus, they were estimating impact into the second quarter. It's already incorporating the fact that, Petrobras and policies for price pass through here for dig fuel in Brazil were kind of smoothed out, as the crisis took place in, in, late February.
Speaker #6: Hi. Good morning. So just following up on the impact into the second quarter, talking about fuel prices. We're trying to understand here what is LATAM actually seeing in terms of fuel price increases just because we have seen some of the regions particularly Brazil on which Petrobras is very relevant kind of is smoothing out the international price trend for fuel prices into jet fuel.
Roberto: Thanks, Andres. We normally don't comment on competition. I guess the two things that I can tell you, one is, you know, airlines publish their capacity and therefore you can see capacity changes week over week after week as this crisis has progressed. I think that what we are seeing in general is a trend in downward capacity on most of the airlines in the region, including LATAM, by the way, in Q2, vis-a-vis what was published before 27 February. More than I think, what we see, because this is actually public information, what we see is ULCCs decreasing capacity faster than players that have a better revenue quality average, if I can put it like that.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Thanks, Andres. We normally don't comment on competition. I guess the two things that I can tell you, one is, you know, airlines publish their capacity and therefore you can see capacity changes week over week after week as this crisis has progressed. I think that what we are seeing in general is a trend in downward capacity on most of the airlines in the region, including LATAM, by the way, in Q2, vis-a-vis what was published before 27 February. More than I think, what we see, because this is actually public information, what we see is ULCCs decreasing capacity faster than players that have a better revenue quality average, if I can put it like that.
Speaker #3: And also, also, if you could comment, how is the company at this point understand there's a lot of uncertainty and their visibility is limited, but just trying to assess how you're rating market share versus profitability when assessing the price increase that you need to implement to offset the higher cost you're facing with fuel?
Speaker #6: So just trying to understand whether the 700 million-plus they were estimating for impact into the second quarter is already incorporating the fact that Petrobras and policies for price pass-through here for jet fuel in Brazil were kind of smoothed out as the crisis took place in late February.
Speaker #4: Okay, Gabriel. it's Ricardo, and thank you for your question. Actually, regarding the Petrobras, issue and not talking about the specific provider in Brazil, it's relevant in Brazil for sure.
Speaker #6: And also, if you could comment, how is the company at this point understand there's a lot of uncertainty and their visibility is limited? But just trying to assess how you're rating market share versus profitability when assessing the price increases that you need to implement to offset the higher cost that you're facing with fuel.
Speaker #4: but it's not a, a question of price policies. Just the mechanism in terms of the way that they capture the international price in terms of lagging.
Roberto: I personally think that, with an environment like the one we are using for the guidance, capacity decreases may accelerate to balance out the longer term impact of demand. The way we have looked at this particular guidance, we call it guidance, but, you know, this is nobody knows where this is going to go. We'd rather put ourselves in a scenario that looks a little bit more conservative than the forward curves and prepare for that. We will see how we execute as the information goes through and the changes in the environment. We're taking this crisis seriously in the sense that there's a chance that it can last longer, and in that case, the whole organization needs to be prepared.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: I personally think that, with an environment like the one we are using for the guidance, capacity decreases may accelerate to balance out the longer term impact of demand. The way we have looked at this particular guidance, we call it guidance, but, you know, this is nobody knows where this is going to go. We'd rather put ourselves in a scenario that looks a little bit more conservative than the forward curves and prepare for that. We will see how we execute as the information goes through and the changes in the environment. We're taking this crisis seriously in the sense that there's a chance that it can last longer, and in that case, the whole organization needs to be prepared.
Speaker #4: So, we mentioned a range on the average of all providers to have between 20 and 30 days lagging in terms of the way that, the average price from our suppliers are getting the impact from international prices.
Speaker #3: Okay, Gabriel. It's Ricardo, and thank you for your question. Actually, regarding the Petrobras issue, I'm not talking about the specific provider in Brazil. It's relevant in Brazil for sure.
Speaker #4: I mean, in terms of price commodities, right? So it's just the way that, when we see these assumptions for the second quarter of, 200, 207 dollars, for instance, we are capturing everything on it.
Speaker #3: But it's not a question of a price policy. It's just a mechanism in terms of the way that they capture the international price in terms of lagging.
Speaker #4: And like, we have mentioned also, the most relevant impact from March, for instance, it's capturing the Q2 assumptions for price.
Speaker #3: So we mentioned range on the average of all providers to have between 20 and 30 days lagging in terms of the way that the average price from our suppliers are getting the impact from international prices.
Roberto: If it gets better and we have, I guess, positive news flows during the night yesterday, then we will adjust accordingly. For the time being, I guess that's the assessment I can give you on how we see the dynamics of the market here. Thank you.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: If it gets better and we have, I guess, positive news flows during the night yesterday, then we will adjust accordingly. For the time being, I guess that's the assessment I can give you on how we see the dynamics of the market here. Thank you.
Speaker #3: To be clear, we're not we're not any changes to the price that are not market changes to the price. So no subsidies or anything like that in any of the markets where we operate.
Speaker #3: I mean, in terms of price commodities, right? So it's just the way that when we see these assumptions for the second quarter, of 107 dollars, for instance, we are capturing everything on it.
Speaker #3: We got the second question. thanks for the question, Mark. Let me be extremely clear here. In LATAM, market share is not a goal. Market share is the result of what we do.
André Ferreira: Very clear. Thank you.
André Ferreira: Very clear. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press Star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. Our next question comes from Gabriel Rezende from Itaú BBA. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press Star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. Our next question comes from Gabriel Rezende from Itaú BBA. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: So for us, we don't manage the business in terms of market share we can achieve. We manage the business looking at the flows, understanding where we can win, executing upon where we see strength.
Speaker #3: And like we have mentioned also, the most relevant impact from March, for instance, it's capturing the Q2 assumptions for price.
Speaker #3: And then the outcome of that equation is a market share. And, LATAM has improved almost in every market we operate. Its market share over the last two or three years.
Speaker #6: But to be clear, we're not assuming nor forecasting any changes to the price that are not market changes to the price. So no subsidies or anything like that in any of the markets where we operate.
Gabriel Rezende: Hi. Good morning. Just following up on the impact into the Q2, talking about fuel prices. We are trying to understand here what has LATAM actually seen in terms of fuel price increases, just because we have seen some of the regions, particularly Brazil, on which Petrobras is very relevant, kind of is smoothing out the international price trend for fuel prices into jet fuel. Just trying to understand whether the $700 million-plus that you are estimating for impact into the Q2 is already incorporating the fact that Petrobras and policies for price pass-through here for jet fuel in Brazil were kind of smoothed out, as the crisis took place in late February. Also, if you could comment, how is the company at this point?
Gabriel Rezende: Hi. Good morning. Just following up on the impact into the Q2, talking about fuel prices. We are trying to understand here what has LATAM actually seen in terms of fuel price increases, just because we have seen some of the regions, particularly Brazil, on which Petrobras is very relevant, kind of is smoothing out the international price trend for fuel prices into jet fuel. Just trying to understand whether the $700 million-plus that you are estimating for impact into the Q2 is already incorporating the fact that Petrobras and policies for price pass-through here for jet fuel in Brazil were kind of smoothed out, as the crisis took place in late February. Also, if you could comment, how is the company at this point?
Speaker #3: But this is not a function of seeking them. It's a function of the result of our strategy. So so I don't focus we don't focus in profitability vis-à-vis market share.
Speaker #6: Regarding the second question, thanks for the question on markets. Let me be extremely clear here. In LATAM, market share is not a goal. Market share is the result of what we do.
Speaker #3: We focus in long-term development of the network, delivering on the strengths that we have built in the model, and then we will see what market share outcome of that equation is.
Speaker #6: So for us, we don't manage the business in terms of the market share we can achieve. We manage the business looking at the flows, understanding where we can win, executing upon where we see strength, and then the outcome of that equation is a market share.
Speaker #3: Having said that, we are a rational player in terms of how we want to develop business going forward. We find ourselves in a place where we can go profitably.
Speaker #3: You see these very clearly throughout 2025, and in the first quarter of 2026. And I think that the way we conduct ourselves and the business is pretty clear at this point in time.
Speaker #6: And LATAM has improved almost in every market we operate. Its market shares over the last two or three years. But this is not a function of seeking them.
Speaker #3: So no, no market share goals for LATAM.
Speaker #6: It's a function of the results of our strategy. So I don't focus we don't focus in profitability vis-à-vis market share. We focus in long-term development of the network, delivering on the strengths that we have built in the model, and then we will see what the market share outcome of that equation is.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Okay. Thank you very much, Sir Claire.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Ian CS from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Gabriel Rezende: I understand there's a lot of uncertainty and their visibility is limited, but just trying to assess how you're weighing market share versus profitability when assessing the price increases that you need to implement to offset the higher costs that you're facing with fuel.
Gabriel Rezende: I understand there's a lot of uncertainty and their visibility is limited, but just trying to assess how you're weighing market share versus profitability when assessing the price increases that you need to implement to offset the higher costs that you're facing with fuel.
Speaker #5: Yeah. It's just, two questions for me. one, to clarify your dig fuel price assumption, just make sure that that's market prices. Not considering any hedges, right?
Speaker #6: Having said that, we are a rational player in terms of how we want to develop the business going forward. We find ourselves in a place where we can grow profitably.
Ricardo: Okay, Gabriel, it's Ricardo, thank you for your question. Actually, regarding the Petrobras issue, I'm not talking about the specific provider in Brazil. It's relevant in Brazil for sure. It's not a question of a price policy. It's just a mechanism in terms of the way that they capture the international price in terms of lagging. We mentioned a range on the average of all providers to have between 20 and 30 days lagging in terms of the way that the average price from our suppliers are getting the impact from international prices. I mean, in terms of price commodities, right? It's just the way that when we see these assumptions for Q2 of $107, for instance, we are capturing everything on it.
Ricardo Bottas: Okay, Gabriel, it's Ricardo, thank you for your question. Actually, regarding the Petrobras issue, I'm not talking about the specific provider in Brazil. It's relevant in Brazil for sure. It's not a question of a price policy. It's just a mechanism in terms of the way that they capture the international price in terms of lagging. We mentioned a range on the average of all providers to have between 20 and 30 days lagging in terms of the way that the average price from our suppliers are getting the impact from international prices. I mean, in terms of price commodities, right? It's just the way that when we see these assumptions for Q2 of $107, for instance, we are capturing everything on it.
Speaker #6: You see these very clearly throughout 2025 and in the first quarter of 2026. And I think that the way we conduct ourselves and the business is pretty clear at this point in time.
Speaker #5: and if those market price materialize, what be what would be like the effective hedged price that you would be realizing considering that you now also incorporated additional hedging instruments, for, for, for, for your hedging within your hedging policy.
Speaker #6: So no market share goals for LATAM. Okay. Thank you very much. That's very clear.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jens Spiess from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: And, and my second question's on the, XLRs that, that, that you will be adding between 2027. Were you planning to to deploy those mainly?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Just two questions for me. One, to clarify, your jet fuel price assumption. Just make sure that's market prices. Not considering any hedges, right?
Speaker #5: Will it be intra-South America or also like, to the US and, and, and, and, and, and, and other markets? Just get a bit more, clarity on that.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #3: And if those market prices materialize, what would be the effective hedged price that you would be realizing? Considering that you now also incorporated additional hedging instruments for your hedging within your hedging policy.
Ricardo: Like, we have mentioned also, the most relevant impact from March, for instance, is capturing the Q2 assumptions for price.
Ricardo Bottas: Like, we have mentioned also, the most relevant impact from March, for instance, is capturing the Q2 assumptions for price.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Ian. And, regarding the hedging policy and the assumptions we use for guidance, yes, the reference in terms of the price of the commodity is not including any reference in terms of the impact that could come from the hedge.
Roberto: To be clear, we're not assuming nor forecasting any changes to the price that are not market changes to the price. No subsidies or anything like that in any of the markets where we operate. Regarding the second question, thanks for the question on market share. Let me be extremely clear here. In LATAM, market share is not a goal. Market share is the result of what we do. For us, we don't manage the business in terms of the market share we can achieve. We manage the business looking at the flows, understanding where we can win, executing upon where we see strength, and then the outcome of that equation is market share. LATAM has improved almost in every market where it operates its market shares over the last two or three years.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: To be clear, we're not assuming nor forecasting any changes to the price that are not market changes to the price. No subsidies or anything like that in any of the markets where we operate. Regarding the second question, thanks for the question on market share. Let me be extremely clear here. In LATAM, market share is not a goal. Market share is the result of what we do. For us, we don't manage the business in terms of the market share we can achieve. We manage the business looking at the flows, understanding where we can win, executing upon where we see strength, and then the outcome of that equation is market share. LATAM has improved almost in every market where it operates its market shares over the last two or three years.
Speaker #4: But yes, the guidance that we are providing are, are the, the guidance is capturing, the contract that we have closed that, we have in our under the hedge policy that we have seen.
Speaker #3: And my second question on the XLRs that you will be adding to your fleet in 2027. Where do you plan to deploy those mainly?
Speaker #4: And we also make some reference in terms of the, the way that we see the colors and also the recent call options that are partially in money right now.
Speaker #3: Will it be intra-South America or also to the US and other markets? Just to get a bit more clarity on that. Thank you.
Speaker #4: So as a reference, not giving any, additional information regarding the conditions for these instruments. the guidance is capturing the, the contract that we have until the end of, April.
Speaker #4: Okay?
Speaker #3: And, on the XLRs, so, we are receiving in through 13 XLRs starting in 2027. there are several applications of the XLR in our network.
Speaker #6: Thank you, Jens. And regarding the hedging policy and the assumptions we use for the guidance, yes, the reference in terms of the price of the commodity is not including any reference in terms of the impact that could come from the hedge.
Roberto: This is not a function of seeking them, it's a function of the results of our strategy. We don't focus in profitability vis-à-vis market share. We focus in long-term developing of the network, delivering on the strengths that we have built in the model, and then we will see what the market share outcome of that equation is. Having said that, we are a rational player in terms of how we want to develop the business going forward. We find ourselves in a place where we can grow profitably. You see this very clearly throughout 2025, and in the first quarter of 2026, and I think that the way we conduct ourselves and the business is pretty clear at this point in time. No, no market share goals for LATAM.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: This is not a function of seeking them, it's a function of the results of our strategy. We don't focus in profitability vis-à-vis market share. We focus in long-term developing of the network, delivering on the strengths that we have built in the model, and then we will see what the market share outcome of that equation is. Having said that, we are a rational player in terms of how we want to develop the business going forward. We find ourselves in a place where we can grow profitably. You see this very clearly throughout 2025, and in the first quarter of 2026, and I think that the way we conduct ourselves and the business is pretty clear at this point in time. No, no market share goals for LATAM. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Lima, Brasilia, Fortaleza are three good examples. we were initially going to deploy the XLRs in Lima, given the fact that there's a connection fee now imposed in Peru, which we believe is a terrible and pretty bad public policy.
Speaker #6: But yes, the guidance that we are providing the guidance is capturing the contracts that we have disclosed that we have in our under the hedge policies that we are seeing.
Speaker #6: And we also made some reference in terms of the way that we see the callers and also the recent call options that are partially in the money right now.
Speaker #3: We are evaluating where those XLRs will go. but as, as a general probably guide here, we, we, we bought these planes to fly long segments, particularly to the US if it were from Lima or Brasilia.
Speaker #6: So as a reference and not giving any additional information regarding the conditions from these instruments, the guidance is capturing the contracts that we have until the end of April.
Speaker #3: It would probably Europe and the rest of South America if they were to be based in Fortaleza. But we'll be proposing on the deployment of them.
Speaker #6: Okay?
Speaker #3: And on the XLRs, so we are receiving in total 13 XLRs starting in 2027. There are several applications of the XLR in our network.
Speaker #3: We still are over a year away from the first deliveries, on the decision made in terms of where they're going to finally go.
Ricardo: Thank you.
Gabriel Rezende: Okay. Thank you very much. That is very clear.
Gabriel Rezende: Okay. Thank you very much. That is very clear.
Speaker #3: Lima, Brasilia, Fortaleza are three good examples. We were initially going to deploy the XLRs in Lima given the fact that there's a connection fee now imposed in Peru, which we believe it's a terrible and pretty bad public policy.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jens Spiess from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Jens Spiess from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you. As a final reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press star so by one on your telephone keypad now.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Edward Stark from Bayer Inventories. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Jens Spiess: Yeah, just two questions for me. One, to clarify your jet fuel price assumption, just to make sure that that's market prices, not considering any hedges, right? And if those market prices materialize, what would be, like, the effective hedged price that you would be realizing, considering that you now also incorporated additional hedging instruments for within your hedging policy? My second question on the XLRs that you will be adding Q3 in 2027, where do you plan to deploy those mainly? Will it be intra South America or also, like, to the US and other markets? Just to get a bit more clarity on that. Thank you.
Jens Spiess: Yeah, just two questions for me. One, to clarify your jet fuel price assumption, just to make sure that that's market prices, not considering any hedges, right? And if those market prices materialize, what would be, like, the effective hedged price that you would be realizing, considering that you now also incorporated additional hedging instruments for within your hedging policy? My second question on the XLRs that you will be adding Q3 in 2027, where do you plan to deploy those mainly? Will it be intra South America or also, like, to the US and other markets? Just to get a bit more clarity on that. Thank you.
Speaker #3: We are evaluating where those XLRs will go. But as a general probably guide here, we bought these planes to fly long segments particularly to the US if it were from Lima or Brasilia.
Speaker #6: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I have a question on jet fuel. your jet fuel guidance, coming for the, coming up following progress, looks somewhat high relative to the evolution of the jet fuel cure, future cure.
Speaker #3: It would be probably Europe and the rest of South America if they were to be placed in Fortaleza. But we'll keep you posted on the deployment of them.
Speaker #6: So I was wondering if you can provide any details on how the strategy was used to reach the first two of those expectations. Thanks.
Speaker #3: We still are over a year away from the first deliveries or no decision made in terms of where they're going to finally go. Thank you.
Speaker #4: question. I mean, in forecasting future prices of fuel today, not even the pros, no. I mean, we have seen just the second half of the forward moving some, something like $15 on average in the last 15 or 20 days.
Speaker #1: Thank you. As a final reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Errol Stark from BICE Investories. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: So the, the way I think that you need to read the assumption here is, in two ways. One is we are we are wanting to be slightly more conservative in terms of this because we'd rather prepare for our scenario in the case it gets better, find bias, it'll be great.
Speaker #7: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I have a question on jet fuel. And your jet fuel guidance coming for the coming foreign partners, looks somewhat high relative to the evolution of the jet fuel cure futures cure.
Ricardo: Thank you, Jens Spiess. Regarding the hedging policy and the assumptions we use for the guidance, yes, the reference in terms of the price of the commodity is not including any reference in terms of the impact that could come from the hedge. Yes, the guidance that we are providing, the guidance is capturing the contracts that we have disclosed that we have in our under the hedge policy that we are seeing. We also made some reference in terms of the way that we see the collars and also the recent call options that are partially in the money right now. As a reference and not giving any additional information regarding the conditions from these instruments, the guidance is capturing the contracts that we have until the end of April. Okay.
Ricardo Bottas: Thank you, Jens Spiess. Regarding the hedging policy and the assumptions we use for the guidance, yes, the reference in terms of the price of the commodity is not including any reference in terms of the impact that could come from the hedge. Yes, the guidance that we are providing, the guidance is capturing the contracts that we have disclosed that we have in our under the hedge policy that we are seeing. We also made some reference in terms of the way that we see the collars and also the recent call options that are partially in the money right now. As a reference and not giving any additional information regarding the conditions from these instruments, the guidance is capturing the contracts that we have until the end of April.
Speaker #4: It'll be an upside to what we're seeing. but on the other side, I think that rather than just simply thinking that we're assuming something special with the market, we have absolutely no clue just as anybody does.
Speaker #7: So I was wondering if you can provide any details on how the strategy was used to reach those expectations. Thanks.
Speaker #4: I think that you need to read the set of metrics that we gave you as the proof of the resilience of the LATAM model.
Speaker #4: So you have the EBITDA, you have the equity, you have the, the leverage, and you have the price assumption on fuel. make up your, your idea on how LATAM today is being built to withstand a moment like the one we're living in.
Speaker #3: Hi, everyone. And thanks for the question. I mean, forecasting future prices of fuel today, not even the pros knows. I mean, we have seen just the second half of the forward curve moving something like $15 on average in the last 15 or 20 days.
Speaker #6: Okay. Perfect. Thanks.
Jens Spiess: Okay.
Roberto: On the XLRs, we are receiving in total 13 XLRs starting in 2027. There are several applications of the XLR in our network. Lima, Brasilia, and Fortaleza are three good examples. We were initially going to deploy the XLRs in Lima. Given the fact that there's a connection fee now imposed in Peru, which we believe it's a terrible and pretty bad public policy, we are evaluating where those XLRs will go. As, as a general probably guide here, we bought these planes to fly long segments, particularly to the US. If it were from Lima or Brasilia, it would be probably Europe and the rest of South America, if they were to be placed in Fortaleza. We'll keep you posted on the deployment of them.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: On the XLRs, we are receiving in total 13 XLRs starting in 2027. There are several applications of the XLR in our network. Lima, Brasilia, and Fortaleza are three good examples. We were initially going to deploy the XLRs in Lima. Given the fact that there's a connection fee now imposed in Peru, which we believe it's a terrible and pretty bad public policy, we are evaluating where those XLRs will go. As, as a general probably guide here, we bought these planes to fly long segments, particularly to the US. If it were from Lima or Brasilia, it would be probably Europe and the rest of South America, if they were to be placed in Fortaleza. We'll keep you posted on the deployment of them.
Speaker #3: So the way I think that you need to read the assumption here is in two ways. One is we are wanting to be slightly more conservative in terms of this because we'd rather prepare for a worse scenario in the case it gets better.
Speaker #2: Thank you. We currently have no further questions. So I'll hand back over to Ricardo for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: thank you all for joining us today and that if you have any further questions, please, let us know and, reach out to the investment relations team.
Speaker #3: Fine by us. It'll be great. It'll be an upside to what we're seeing. But on the other side, I think that rather than just simply thinking that we're assuming something special with the market, we have absolutely no clue just as anybody does I think that you need to read a set of metrics that we gave you as the proof of the resilience of the LATAM model.
Speaker #4: Thank you and have a good day.
Speaker #3: So you have the EBITDA. You have the liquidity. You have the leverage. And you have the price assumption on fuel. Make up your idea on how LATAM today is being built to withstand a moment like the one we're living now.
Roberto: We still are over a year away from the first delivery, so no decision made in terms of where they're going to finally go.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: We still are over a year away from the first delivery, so no decision made in terms of where they're going to finally go.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #7: Perfect. Thanks.
Jens Spiess: Perfect. Okay. Thank you.
Jens Spiess: Perfect. Okay. Thank you.
Ricardo: Thank you.
Ricardo Bottas: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. We currently have no further questions. So I'll hand back over to Ricardo for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. As a final reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. Our next question comes from Ewald Starke from BICE Inversiones. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. As a final reminder, if you did want to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. Our next question comes from Ewald Stark from BICE Inversiones. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Thank you all for joining us today. And if you have any further questions, please let us know. And reach out to the investment relations team.
Ewald Stark Bittencourt: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I have a question on jet fuel. Your jet fuel guidance coming for the operating partners looks somewhat high relative to the evolution of the jet fuel future curve. I was wondering if you can provide any details on how the strategy was used to reach those expectations. Thanks.
Ewald Stark: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I have a question on jet fuel. Your jet fuel guidance coming for the operating partners looks somewhat high relative to the evolution of the jet fuel future curve. I was wondering if you can provide any details on how the strategy was used to reach those expectations. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Thank you. And have a good day.
Roberto: Hi, Ewald, and thanks for the question. I mean, you know, forecasting future prices of fuel today, not even the pros knows. I mean, we have seen just the second half of the forward curve moving something like $15 on average in the last 15 or 20 days. The way I think that you need to read the assumption here is in two ways. One is we are wanting to be slightly more conservative in terms of this because we'd rather prepare for a worse scenario. In the case it gets better, fine by us, it'll be great. It'll be an upside to what we're seeing.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Hi, Ewald, and thanks for the question. I mean, you know, forecasting future prices of fuel today, not even the pros knows. I mean, we have seen just the second half of the forward curve moving something like $15 on average in the last 15 or 20 days. The way I think that you need to read the assumption here is in two ways. One is we are wanting to be slightly more conservative in terms of this because we'd rather prepare for a worse scenario. In the case it gets better, fine by us, it'll be great. It'll be an upside to what we're seeing.
Roberto: On the other side, I think that rather than just simply thinking that we're assuming something special with the market, we have absolutely no clue, just as anybody does. I think that you need to read a set of metrics that we gave you as the proof of the resilience of the LATAM model. You have the EBITDA, you have the liquidity, you have the leverage, and you have the price assumption of fuel, make up your idea on how LATAM today is being built to withstand a moment like the one we're living now.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: On the other side, I think that rather than just simply thinking that we're assuming something special with the market, we have absolutely no clue, just as anybody does. I think that you need to read a set of metrics that we gave you as the proof of the resilience of the LATAM model. You have the EBITDA, you have the liquidity, you have the leverage, and you have the price assumption of fuel, make up your idea on how LATAM today is being built to withstand a moment like the one we're living now.
Ewald Stark Bittencourt: Okay.
Ewald Stark: Okay.
Ewald Stark Bittencourt: Thank you.
Roberto Alvo Milosawlewitsch: Thank you.
Ewald Stark Bittencourt: Thanks.
Ewald Stark: Thanks.
Operator: Thank you. We currently have no further questions, I'll hand back over to Ricardo for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. We currently have no further questions, I'll hand back over to Ricardo for closing remarks.
Ricardo: Thank you all for joining us today, and if you have any further questions, please let us know and reach out the investment relations team. Thank you, and have a good day.
Ricardo Bottas: Thank you all for joining us today, and if you have any further questions, please let us know and reach out the investment relations team. Thank you, and have a good day.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.
