Q2 2026 Jacobs Solutions Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Greetings, and welcome to the Jacobs Fiscal Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation.
Operator: Greetings, welcome to Jacobs Fiscal Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Bert Subin, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Operator: Greetings, welcome to Jacobs Fiscal Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Bert Subin, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Speaker #1: As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again.
Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the conference over to Bert Subin, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Bert Subin: Solid year-on-year margin expansion and continued robust sales activity. I'll quickly highlight a few key takeaways. First, adjusted EPS grew 22% to $1.75, supported by 9% organic net revenue growth, outpacing the 8% growth rate in Q1 and 70 basis points of year-on-year margin expansion. Second, our backlog grew 22% to $27 billion, setting another new record with a trailing 12-month book-to-bill of 1.4x on gross revenue and 1.2x on net revenue. Third, we completed the acquisition of PA Consulting, which we celebrated together by ringing the closing bell at the New York Stock Exchange in March.
Bob Pragada: Solid year-on-year margin expansion and continued robust sales activity. I'll quickly highlight a few key takeaways. First, adjusted EPS grew 22% to $1.75, supported by 9% organic net revenue growth, outpacing the 8% growth rate in Q1 and 70 basis points of year-on-year margin expansion. Second, our backlog grew 22% to $27 billion, setting another new record with a trailing 12-month book-to-bill of 1.4x on gross revenue and 1.2x on net revenue. Third, we completed the acquisition of PA Consulting, which we celebrated together by ringing the closing bell at the New York Stock Exchange in March.
Speaker #2: Solid, year-on-year margin expansion and continued robust sales activity. I'll quickly highlight a few key takeaways. First, adjusted EPS grew 22% to $1.75, supported by 9% organic net revenue growth, outpacing the 8% growth rate in Q1, and 70 basis points of year-on-year margin expansion.
Speaker #2: Second, our backlog grew 22% to $27 billion, setting another new record with a trailing 12-month book-to-bill of 1.4 times on gross revenue and 1.2 times on net revenue.
Speaker #2: And third, we completed the acquisition of PA Consulting. Which we celebrated together by ringing the closing bell at the New York Stock Exchange in March.
Speaker #2: In summary, we're exiting Q2 with significant momentum and the strong first half of the year gives us confidence to increase our FY26 outlook for the second time in two quarters, which Venk will walk through shortly.
Bert Subin: In summary, we are exiting Q2 with significant momentum, and the strong H1 of the year gives us confidence to increase our FY 2026 outlook for the second time in 2 quarters, which Venk will walk through shortly. Turning to slide 4, we provide a detailed overview of the quarter. We are very pleased with Q2 results as strong operating performance paired with our lower share count drove the 5th straight quarter of double-digit growth in adjusted EPS. During Q2, we also delivered another quarterly book-to-bill above 1.0 times, with both gross and net coming in at 1.2 times. The addition of the net revenue book-to-bill metric will provide a useful context for our investors and analysts and reinforces the strength in our bookings over the last 12 months. Turning to slide 5.
Bob Pragada: In summary, we are exiting Q2 with significant momentum, and the strong H1 of the year gives us confidence to increase our FY 2026 outlook for the second time in two quarters, which Venk will walk through shortly. Turning to slide four, we provide a detailed overview of the quarter. We are very pleased with Q2 results as strong operating performance paired with our lower share count drove the fifth straight quarter of double-digit growth in adjusted EPS. During Q2, we also delivered another quarterly book-to-bill above 1.0x, with both gross and net coming in at 1.2x. The addition of the net revenue book-to-bill metric will provide a useful context for our investors and analysts and reinforces the strength in our bookings over the last 12 months. Turning to slide five.
Speaker #2: Turning to slide four, we provide a detailed overview of the quarter. We are very pleased with Q2 results, as strong operating performance paired with our lower share count drove the fifth straight quarter of double-digit growth in adjusted EPS.
Speaker #2: During Q2, we also delivered another quarterly book-to-bill above 1.0 times with both gross and net coming in at 1.2 times. The addition of the net revenue book-to-bill metric will provide a useful context for our investors and analysts and reinforces the strength in our bookings over the last 12 months.
Speaker #2: Turning to slide five, I'd like to highlight a few notable project awards from the second quarter. But before I do that, I want to recognize a major achievement.
Bob Pragada: I'd like to highlight a few notable project awards from Q2. Before I do that, I want to recognize a major achievement. Jacobs has been ranked the number 1 design firm by Engineering News-Record in their newly released 2026 top 500 report, marking the 7 times in the last 8 years we've held this ranking. Our strong organic growth profile helped us earn this honor, and I wanna thank our 37,000 colleagues for delivering leading solutions to our clients every single day. Now, moving on to Q2 awards. In Water and Environmental, Jacobs was selected by the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission to deliver the Southeast Wastewater Treatment Plant, a landmark investment in environmental protection for the San Francisco Bay.
Bob Pragada: I'd like to highlight a few notable project awards from Q2. Before I do that, I want to recognize a major achievement. Jacobs has been ranked the number one design firm by Engineering News-Record in their newly released 2026 top 500 report, marking the 7x in the last eight years we've held this ranking. Our strong organic growth profile helped us earn this honor, and I wanna thank our 37,000 colleagues for delivering leading solutions to our clients every single day. Now, moving on to Q2 awards. In Water and Environmental, Jacobs was selected by the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission to deliver the Southeast Wastewater Treatment Plant, a landmark investment in environmental protection for the San Francisco Bay.
Speaker #2: Jacobs is ranked the number one design firm by Engineering News-Record in their newly released 2026 Top 500 report, marking the seventh time in the last eight years we've held this ranking.
Speaker #2: Our strong organic growth profile helped us earn this honor, and I want to thank our 47,000 colleagues for delivering leading solutions to our clients every single day.
Speaker #2: Now, moving on to Q2 awards. In Water and Environmental, Jacobs was selected by the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission to deliver the Southeast Wastewater Treatment Plant, a landmark investment in environmental protection for the San Francisco Bay.
Speaker #2: The project will upgrade San Francisco's largest wastewater facility, positioning the plant as the first major discharger to proactively meet new nitrogen limits for the bay.
Bob Pragada: The project will upgrade San Francisco's largest wastewater facility, positioning the plant as the first major discharger to proactively meet new nitrogen limits for the bay. This win highlights another significant award in one of our fastest-growing sectors and positions Jacobs for similar regulatory-driven investments emerging across Northern California, the Pacific Northwest, and the Great Lakes. Also within Water and Environmental, Jacobs and PA have secured a a 2-year economics and policy consultancy contract with Ofwat, the UK water regulator. The engagement brings together industry-leading expertise across water regulation as well as financial, technical, and strategic consulting. Our solution will be delivered to support pricing, performance oversight, and policy development tied to substantial investment across the AMP8 cycle and beyond.
Bob Pragada: The project will upgrade San Francisco's largest wastewater facility, positioning the plant as the first major discharger to proactively meet new nitrogen limits for the bay. This win highlights another significant award in one of our fastest-growing sectors and positions Jacobs for similar regulatory-driven investments emerging across Northern California, the Pacific Northwest, and the Great Lakes. Also within Water and Environmental, Jacobs and PA have secured a a two-year economics and policy consultancy contract with Ofwat, the UK water regulator. The engagement brings together industry-leading expertise across water regulation as well as financial, technical, and strategic consulting. Our solution will be delivered to support pricing, performance oversight, and policy development tied to substantial investment across the AMP8 cycle and beyond.
Speaker #2: This win highlights another significant award. In one of our fastest-growing sectors, and positions JACOBS for similar regulatory-driven investments, emerging across Northern California, the Pacific Northwest, and the Great Lakes.
Speaker #2: Also within water and environmental, JACOBS and PA have secured a two-year economics and policy consultancy contract with OFWAT, the UK water regulator. The engagement brings together industry-leading expertise across water regulation as well as financial, technical, and strategic consulting.
Speaker #2: Our solution will be delivered to support pricing, performance oversight, and policy development tied to substantial investment across the AMP 8 cycle and beyond. In life sciences and advanced manufacturing, we had multiple wins with hyperscalers and other data center customers spanning the full project lifecycle.
Bob Pragada: In Life Sciences and Advanced Manufacturing, we had multiple wins with hyperscalers and other data center customers spanning the full project life cycle, from advisory, design, program management, and digital solutions to full EPCM. This includes our recently released data center digital twin, developed using the NVIDIA Omniverse DSX Blueprint. Our strategic partnership with NVIDIA continues to gain momentum as we work to expedite the delivery of AI factories with compute load requirements rising substantially. Last year at our Investor Day, we laid out a roadmap for how we believed our data center business would evolve, and the combination of our deep domain expertise, our full asset lifecycle model, and the expansion of AI investment has accelerated that journey.
Bob Pragada: In Life Sciences and Advanced Manufacturing, we had multiple wins with hyperscalers and other data center customers spanning the full project life cycle, from advisory, design, program management, and digital solutions to full EPCM. This includes our recently released data center digital twin, developed using the NVIDIA Omniverse DSX Blueprint. Our strategic partnership with NVIDIA continues to gain momentum as we work to expedite the delivery of AI factories with compute load requirements rising substantially. Last year at our Investor Day, we laid out a roadmap for how we believed our data center business would evolve, and the combination of our deep domain expertise, our full asset lifecycle model, and the expansion of AI investment has accelerated that journey.
Speaker #2: From advisory, design, program management, and digital solutions to full EPCM. This includes our recently released data center digital twin developed using the NVIDIA Omniverse DSX Blueprint.
Speaker #2: Our strategic partnership with NVIDIA continues to gain momentum as we work to expedite the delivery of AI factories with compute load requirements rising substantially.
Speaker #2: Last year, at our investor day, we laid out a roadmap for how we believe our data center business would evolve. And the combination of our deep domain expertise, our full asset lifecycle model, and the expansion of AI investment has accelerated that journey.
Speaker #2: We grew our data center business by more than 100% year-on-year in Q2, and we see very strong runway to build on that success in the second half of the year.
Bob Pragada: We grew our data center business by more than 100% year-on-year in Q2. We see very strong runway to build on that success in H2 of the year. It's more than the data center sector. We are seeing rising demand in semiconductors, water, and energy and power as the technology and infrastructure go hand in hand. This is bolstering total revenue growth for their backlog and pipeline, indicating the investment cycle is still in the early stages. Moving on to critical infrastructure, Jacobs has selected a lead design at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport as part of the Terminal F expansion. The project involves existing bridge span alterations essential to allow for up to 16 additional gates and support the airport's growing demand.
Bob Pragada: We grew our data center business by more than 100% year-on-year in Q2. We see very strong runway to build on that success in H2 of the year. It's more than the data center sector. We are seeing rising demand in semiconductors, water, and energy and power as the technology and infrastructure go hand in hand. This is bolstering total revenue growth for their backlog and pipeline, indicating the investment cycle is still in the early stages. Moving on to critical infrastructure, Jacobs has selected a lead design at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport as part of the Terminal F expansion. The project involves existing bridge span alterations essential to allow for up to 16 additional gates and support the airport's growing demand.
Speaker #2: And it's more than the data center sector. We are seeing rising demand in semiconductors, water, and energy and power, as the technology and infrastructure go hand in hand.
Speaker #2: This is bolstering total revenue growth, with our backlog and pipeline indicating the investment cycle is still in the early stages. Moving on to critical infrastructure, Jacobs was selected to lead design at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport as part of the Terminal F expansion.
Speaker #2: The project involves existing bridge span operations essential to allow for up to 16 additional gates and support the airport's growing demand. Combining bridge design expertise with the unique challenge of maintaining operability of the SkyLink, PeopleMover, during all phases of construction, we are modernizing infrastructure while keeping passengers moving.
Bob Pragada: Combining bridge design expertise with the unique challenge of maintaining operability of the SkyLink people mover during all phases of construction, we are modernizing infrastructure while keeping passengers moving. Jacobs is ranked as Engineering News-Record's number 1 firm in aviation, a sector where we continue to see significant growth and demand for terminal upgrades and new builds. In summary, we continue to build on our industry leadership in sectors like wastewater, aviation, and data centers, securing key awards that position us for growth in the H2 of the year and into FY 2027. Now I'll turn the call over to Venk to review our financials in further detail.
Bob Pragada: Combining bridge design expertise with the unique challenge of maintaining operability of the SkyLink people mover during all phases of construction, we are modernizing infrastructure while keeping passengers moving. Jacobs is ranked as Engineering News-Record's number one firm in aviation, a sector where we continue to see significant growth and demand for terminal upgrades and new builds. In summary, we continue to build on our industry leadership in sectors like wastewater, aviation, and data centers, securing key awards that position us for growth in the H2 of the year and into FY 2027. Now I'll turn the call over to Venk to review our financials in further detail.
Speaker #2: JACOBS is ranked as Engineering News-Record's number one firm in aviation, a sector where we continue to see significant growth in demand for terminal upgrades and new builds.
Speaker #2: In summary, we continue to build on our industry leadership in sectors like wastewater, aviation, and data centers, securing key awards that position us for growth in the second half of the year and into FY27.
Speaker #2: Now I'll turn the call over to Venk to review our financials in further detail.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Bob, and good afternoon, everyone. Please turn to slide six where I'll walk through our results for Q2. Gross revenue increased 27% year over year, and adjusted net revenue, which excludes pass-through revenue, grew by 9%.
Venk Nathamuni: Thank you, Bob, and good afternoon, everyone. Please turn to slide 6, where I'll walk through our results for Q2. Gross revenue increased 27% year over year, and adjusted net revenue, which excludes pass-through revenue, grew by 9%. These both represent the highest consolidated growth rates for the company since the separation of our government services business in 2024. Q2 adjusted EBITDA was $327 million, growing more than 14%, with our margin coming in at 14.1% or up 70 basis points year over year, driven by good operating discipline. This resulted in adjusted EPS rising 22% year over year. Consolidated backlog was also up 22% year over year to a record $27 billion with a trailing twelve-month book-to-bill at 1.4 times.
Venk Nathamuni: Thank you, Bob, and good afternoon, everyone. Please turn to slide six, where I'll walk through our results for Q2. Gross revenue increased 27% year over year, and adjusted net revenue, which excludes pass-through revenue, grew by 9%. These both represent the highest consolidated growth rates for the company since the separation of our government services business in 2024. Q2 Adjusted EBITDA was $327 million, growing more than 14%, with our margin coming in at 14.1% or up 70 basis points year over year, driven by good operating discipline. This resulted in adjusted EPS rising 22% year over year. Consolidated backlog was also up 22% year over year to a record $27 billion with a trailing 12-month book-to-bill at 1.4x.
Speaker #1: These both represent the highest consolidated growth rates for the company since the separation of our government services business in 2024. Q2 adjusted EBITDA was $327 million, growing more than 14%, with our margin coming in at 14.1%, or up 70 basis points year over year, driven by good operating discipline.
Speaker #1: This resulted in adjusted EPS rising 22% year over year. Consolidated backlog was also up 22% year over year, to a record 27 billion dollars, with a trailing 12-month book-to-bill at 1.4 times.
Speaker #1: Book-to-bill was strong again in Q2, driven by good awards activity across our end markets. Additionally, on a year-over-year basis, net revenue and gross profit and backlog increased 12% and 15% respectively, during Q2.
Venk Nathamuni: Book-to-bill was strong again in Q2, driven by good awards activity across our end markets. Additionally, on a year-over-year basis, net revenue and gross profit in backlog increased 12% and 15% respectively during Q2. We are demonstrating faster organic growth in the business today, and our strong bookings position us well as we look out to fiscal year 2027. As you've seen since the separation of our government services business in fiscal year 2024, our earnings quality has been improving. However, as a result of the PA transaction, which we have previously communicated, there was a wider-than-normal spread between GAAP and adjusted EPS in Q2.
Venk Nathamuni: Book-to-bill was strong again in Q2, driven by good awards activity across our end markets. Additionally, on a year-over-year basis, net revenue and gross profit in backlog increased 12% and 15% respectively during Q2. We are demonstrating faster organic growth in the business today, and our strong bookings position us well as we look out to fiscal year 2027. As you've seen since the separation of our government services business in fiscal year 2024, our earnings quality has been improving. However, as a result of the PA transaction, which we have previously communicated, there was a wider-than-normal spread between GAAP and adjusted EPS in Q2.
Speaker #1: We are demonstrating faster organic growth in the business today. And our strong bookings position us well as we look out to fiscal year '27.
Speaker #1: As you've seen since the separation of our government services business in fiscal year '24, our earnings quality has been improving. However, as a result of the PA transaction, which we have previously communicated, there was a wider-than-normal spread between GAAP and adjusted EPS in Q2.
Speaker #1: We expect this to be mostly a Q2 phenomenon, and we anticipate a more normal differential between GAAP and adjusted EPS in Q3 and beyond.
Venk Nathamuni: We expect this to be mostly a Q2 phenomenon. We anticipate a more normal differential between GAAP and adjusted EPS in Q3 and beyond. Regarding our performance by end market in Infrastructure and Advanced Facilities, let's turn to slide 7. At a high level, we continue to see strong growth rates in Life Sciences and Advanced Manufacturing, as well as in Critical Infrastructure during Q2. Focusing on Life Sciences and Advanced Manufacturing, net revenue grew 12% in Q2, our highest growth rate since we began reporting end markets in late 2024. Combining acceleration in Advanced Manufacturing with continued solid performance in the Life Sciences sector has resulted in a double-digit top-line increase for the end market. We expect revenue growth will likely exceed Q2's level in the H2 of the year. Shifting to Critical Infrastructure, net revenue increased 9% over Q2 2025.
Venk Nathamuni: We expect this to be mostly a Q2 phenomenon. We anticipate a more normal differential between GAAP and adjusted EPS in Q3 and beyond. Regarding our performance by end market in Infrastructure and Advanced Facilities, let's turn to slide seven. At a high level, we continue to see strong growth rates in Life Sciences and Advanced Manufacturing, as well as in Critical Infrastructure during Q2. Focusing on Life Sciences and Advanced Manufacturing, net revenue grew 12% in Q2, our highest growth rate since we began reporting end markets in late 2024. Combining acceleration in Advanced Manufacturing with continued solid performance in the Life Sciences sector has resulted in a double-digit top-line increase for the end market. We expect revenue growth will likely exceed Q2's level in the H2 of the year. Shifting to Critical Infrastructure, net revenue increased 9% over Q2 2025.
Speaker #1: Regarding our performance by end market in infrastructure and advanced facilities, let's turn to slide seven. At a high level, we continue to see strong growth rates in life sciences and advanced manufacturing, as well as in critical infrastructure, during Q2.
Speaker #1: Focusing on life sciences and advanced manufacturing, net revenue grew 12% in Q2, our highest growth rate since we began reporting end markets in late 2024.
Speaker #1: Combining acceleration in advanced manufacturing, with continued solid performance in the life sciences sector, has resulted in a double-digit top-line increase for the end market.
Speaker #1: And we expect revenue growth will likely exceed Q2's level in the second half of the year. Shifting to critical infrastructure, net revenue increased 9% over Q2 2025.
Speaker #1: Critical infrastructure continues to be led by strong growth in the transportation sector, where our rail, aviation, and ports businesses grew double digits, as well as in the energy and power sector on the heels of high-demand for transportation and distribution services.
Venk Nathamuni: Critical infrastructure continues to be led by strong growth in the transportation sector, where our rail, aviation, and ports businesses grew double digits, as well as in the energy and power sector on the heels of high demand for transmission and distribution services. Net revenue growth in our water and environmental end market came in at 2% as strength in water, which has continued to grow in line with our target, was offset by softness in the environmental sector. Performance for our environmental business is on track to show meaningful year-over-year improvement as we reach Q4. In summary, we saw diversified strength across our end markets during Q2. Moving now to slide 8, I'll provide a brief overview of our segment financials. In Q2, INAF operating profit increased 11% year-over-year, or just over 8% on a constant currency basis.
Venk Nathamuni: Critical infrastructure continues to be led by strong growth in the transportation sector, where our rail, aviation, and ports businesses grew double digits, as well as in the energy and power sector on the heels of high demand for transmission and distribution services. Net revenue growth in our water and environmental end market came in at 2% as strength in water, which has continued to grow in line with our target, was offset by softness in the environmental sector. Performance for our environmental business is on track to show meaningful year-over-year improvement as we reach Q4. In summary, we saw diversified strength across our end markets during Q2. Moving now to slide eight, I'll provide a brief overview of our segment financials. In Q2, INAF operating profit increased 11% year-over-year, or just over 8% on a constant currency basis.
Speaker #1: Net revenue growth in our water and environmental end market came in at 2%, as strength in water, which has continued to grow in line with our target, was offset by softness in the environmental sector.
Speaker #1: Performance for our environmental business is on track to show meaningful year-over-year improvement as we reach Q4. In summary, we saw a diversified strength across our end markets during Q2.
Speaker #1: Moving now to slide eight, I'll provide a brief overview of our segment financials. In Q2, INAF operating profit increased 11% year over year, or just over 8% on a constant currency basis.
Speaker #1: PA consulting operating profit increased 19%, as revenue grew 17%, and operating margin came in strong at 22%. On a constant currency basis, operating profit grew 12%.
Venk Nathamuni: PA Consulting operating profit increased 19% as revenue grew 17% and operating margin came in strong at 22%. On a constant currency basis, operating profit grew 12%. PA has seen demand tailwinds from national security and public investments in the UK, and the business is centrally positioned to help advise on European defense strategy as well as implement digital solutions across the entire region. Combined with Jacobs' proven history of delivering complex manufacturing and national security infrastructure, we see a compelling opportunity to augment growth in this sector. Focusing on H2 of the year, we believe PA will continue to grow revenue high single digits on a constant currency basis. Now, moving on to slide 9, we provide an overview of cash generation and our balance sheet.
Venk Nathamuni: PA Consulting operating profit increased 19% as revenue grew 17% and operating margin came in strong at 22%. On a constant currency basis, operating profit grew 12%. PA has seen demand tailwinds from national security and public investments in the UK, and the business is centrally positioned to help advise on European defense strategy as well as implement digital solutions across the entire region. Combined with Jacobs' proven history of delivering complex manufacturing and national security infrastructure, we see a compelling opportunity to augment growth in this sector. Focusing on H2 of the year, we believe PA will continue to grow revenue high single digits on a constant currency basis. Now, moving on to slide 9, we provide an overview of cash generation and our balance sheet.
Speaker #1: PA has seen demand tailwinds from national security and public investments in the UK, and the business is centrally positioned to help advise on European defense strategy as well as implement digital solutions across the entire region.
Speaker #1: Combined with JACOBS's proven history of delivering complex manufacturing and national security infrastructure, we see a compelling opportunity to augment growth in the sector. Focusing on the second half of the year, we believe PA will continue to grow revenue, high single digits, on a constant currency basis.
Speaker #1: Now, moving on to slide nine, we provide an overview of cash generation and our balance sheet. For Q2, we had an adjusted free cash outflow of £272 million, partly as a function of a favorable Q1 cash timing item that reversed in Q2.
Venk Nathamuni: For Q2, we had an adjusted free cash outflow of $272 million, partly as a function of a favorable Q1 cash timing item that reversed in Q2. This brings our H1 adjusted free cash flow to $93 million, a solid increase over fiscal year 2025. I just want to note we're highlighting an adjusted free cash flow figure as we have to account for the portion of the PA transaction proceeds in operating cash under US GAAP reporting guidelines. These entries impacted Q2 reported free cash flow by approximately $233 million and will impact Q3 reported free cash flow by just over $100 million. It's important to keep in mind these amounts were already included as part of the upfront consideration paid in connection with the transaction.
Venk Nathamuni: For Q2, we had an adjusted free cash outflow of $272 million, partly as a function of a favorable Q1 cash timing item that reversed in Q2. This brings our H1 adjusted free cash flow to $93 million, a solid increase over fiscal year 2025. I just want to note we're highlighting an adjusted free cash flow figure as we have to account for the portion of the PA transaction proceeds in operating cash under US GAAP reporting guidelines. These entries impacted Q2 reported free cash flow by approximately $233 million and will impact Q3 reported free cash flow by just over $100 million. It's important to keep in mind these amounts were already included as part of the upfront consideration paid in connection with the transaction.
Speaker #1: This brings our first half adjusted free cash flow to £93 million, a solid increase over fiscal year '25. I just want to note we're highlighting an adjusted free cash flow figure as we have to account for a portion of the PA transaction proceeds in operating cash under US GAAP reporting guidelines.
Speaker #1: These entries impacted Q2 reported free cash flow by approximately £233 million, and will impact Q3 reported free cash flow by just over £100 million.
Speaker #1: But it's important to keep in mind these amounts were already included as part of the upfront consideration paid in connection with the transaction. Focusing on capital returns, we remain aggressive repurchases of our shares during Q2 to take advantage of the value of our stock.
Venk Nathamuni: Focusing on capital returns, we remain aggressive repurchases of our shares during Q2 to take advantage of the value of our stock. Consequently, our total repurchases in H1 was $472 million, which puts us ahead of our annual target of returning at least 60% of free cash flow back to our shareholders. Our balance sheet is in good shape following the acquisition of PA Consulting, with a net leverage of 2.1 times ending the quarter, and we plan to return to below 2 times by year-end. Additionally, our weighted average interest rate has declined to around 5% following the successful refinancing of our debt stack and issuance of new bonds to fund the acquisition.
Venk Nathamuni: Focusing on capital returns, we remain aggressive repurchases of our shares during Q2 to take advantage of the value of our stock. Consequently, our total repurchases in H1 was $472 million, which puts us ahead of our annual target of returning at least 60% of free cash flow back to our shareholders. Our balance sheet is in good shape following the acquisition of PA Consulting, with a net leverage of 2.1x ending the quarter, and we plan to return to below 2 times by year-end. Additionally, our weighted average interest rate has declined to around 5% following the successful refinancing of our debt stack and issuance of new bonds to fund the acquisition.
Speaker #1: Consequently, our total repurchases in the first half of the year were £472 million, which puts us ahead of our annual target of returning at least 60% of free cash flow back to our shareholders.
Speaker #1: Our balance sheet is in good shape following the acquisition of PA consulting, with a net leverage at 2.1 times ending the quarter, and we plan to return to below 2 times by year-end.
Speaker #1: Additionally, our weighted average interest rate has declined to around 5% following the successful refinancing of our debt stack and issuance of new bonds to fund the acquisition.
Speaker #1: Net leverage is roughly half a turn above our target range, but the increase in EBITDA from the full inclusion of PA as well as our strong outlook for cash generation positions us to lower our net leverage ratio back toward 1.5 times during fiscal year '27.
Venk Nathamuni: Net leverage is roughly half a turn above our target range, but the increase in EBITDA from the full inclusion of PA, as well as our strong outlook for cash generation, positions us to lower our net leverage ratio back towards 1.5 times during fiscal year 2027. Please turn to slide 10 for our updated fiscal year 2026 outlook, inclusive of our acquisition of PA Consulting. We're increasing our forecast for adjusted net revenue growth, adjusted EBITDA margin, and adjusted EPS relative to our guidance from last quarter. We're increasing our FY 2026 organic net revenue growth range to 8% to 10.5% year over year, adjusted EBITDA margin range to 14.6% to 14.9%, and adjusted EPS range to $7.10 to $7.35.
Venk Nathamuni: Net leverage is roughly half a turn above our target range, but the increase in EBITDA from the full inclusion of PA, as well as our strong outlook for cash generation, positions us to lower our net leverage ratio back towards 1.5 times during fiscal year 2027. Please turn to slide 10 for our updated fiscal year 2026 outlook, inclusive of our acquisition of PA Consulting. We're increasing our forecast for adjusted net revenue growth, adjusted EBITDA margin, and adjusted EPS relative to our guidance from last quarter. We're increasing our FY 2026 organic net revenue growth range to 8% to 10.5% year over year, adjusted EBITDA margin range to 14.6% to 14.9%, and adjusted EPS range to $7.10 to $7.35.
Speaker #1: Please turn to slide 10 for our updated fiscal year '26 outlook. Inclusive of our acquisition of PA Consulting, we're increasing our forecast for adjusted net revenue growth, adjusted EBITDA margin, and adjusted EPS relative to our guidance from last quarter.
Speaker #1: We're increasing our FY '26 organic net revenue growth range to 8% to 10.5% year over year, adjusted EBITDA margin range to 14.6% to 14.9%, and adjusted EPS range to $7.10 to $7.35.
Speaker #1: We continue to anticipate adjusted free cash flow margin will range from 7% to 8.5%. Notably, our outlook for FY '26 now implies 18% year-on-year growth in adjusted EPS at the midpoint.
Venk Nathamuni: We continue to anticipate adjusted free cash flow margin will range from 7% to 8.5%. Notably, our outlook for FY 2026 now implies 18% year-on-year growth in adjusted EPS at the midpoint. As it pertains to Q3, we expect our adjusted EBITDA margin to be approximately 15% with year-over-year net revenue growth of approximately 7.5%. This implies a margin above 16% in Q4 on double-digit top-line growth, inclusive of the extra week we will have this year during that quarter. Additionally, we expect our adjusted effective tax rate will be in the 27% to 28% range in Q3 and in Q4.
Venk Nathamuni: We continue to anticipate adjusted free cash flow margin will range from 7% to 8.5%. Notably, our outlook for FY 2026 now implies 18% year-on-year growth in adjusted EPS at the midpoint. As it pertains to Q3, we expect our adjusted EBITDA margin to be approximately 15% with year-over-year net revenue growth of approximately 7.5%. This implies a margin above 16% in Q4 on double-digit top-line growth, inclusive of the extra week we will have this year during that quarter. Additionally, we expect our adjusted effective tax rate will be in the 27% to 28% range in Q3 and in Q4.
Speaker #1: As it pertains to Q3, we expect our adjusted EBITDA margin to be approximately 15%, with year-over-year net revenue growth of approximately 7.5%. This implies a margin above 16% in Q4 on double-digit top-line growth, inclusive of the extra week we will have this year during that quarter.
Speaker #1: Additionally, we expect our adjusted effective tax rate will be in the 27 to 28 percent range in Q3 and in Q4. We have good line of sight to achieving our updated fiscal year '26 targets, and we're pleased to be trending well ahead of our initial outlook for the year.
Venk Nathamuni: We have good line of sight to achieving our updated fiscal year 2026 targets, and we're pleased to be trending well ahead of our initial outlook for the year. Now turn to slide number 11 for a few updates to our fiscal year 2029 targets. We are reaffirming our range of 6% to 8% organic growth on a 5-year compound annual growth rate basis for net revenue. Combining our fiscal year 2025 results and the midpoint of our fiscal year 2026 guidance, we would be ahead of the midpoint for the first 2 years. Adding this to our central positioning in the build-out of AI infrastructure and the potential for growing revenue synergies with PA leads us to believe we will meet or exceed a 7% compounded annual growth rate.
Venk Nathamuni: We have good line of sight to achieving our updated fiscal year 2026 targets, and we're pleased to be trending well ahead of our initial outlook for the year. Now turn to slide number 11 for a few updates to our fiscal year 2029 targets. We are reaffirming our range of 6% to 8% organic growth on a 5-year compound annual growth rate basis for net revenue. Combining our fiscal year 2025 results and the midpoint of our fiscal year 2026 guidance, we would be ahead of the midpoint for the first 2 years. Adding this to our central positioning in the build-out of AI infrastructure and the potential for growing revenue synergies with PA leads us to believe we will meet or exceed a 7% compounded annual growth rate.
Speaker #1: Now, turn to slide number 11 for a few updates to our fiscal year '29 targets. We are reaffirming our range of 6% to 8% organic growth on a five-year compound annual growth rate basis for net revenue.
Speaker #1: Combining our fiscal year '25 result and the midpoint of our fiscal year '26 guidance, we would be ahead of the midpoint for the first two years.
Speaker #1: Adding this to our central positioning in the build-out of AI infrastructure, and the potential for growing revenue synergies with PA, leads us to believe we will meet or exceed a 7% compounded annual growth rate.
Speaker #1: As it pertains to adjusted EBITDA margin, we're increasing our target by 100 basis points to 17% plus for fiscal year '29. This is due to the implementation of gross margin and G&A initiatives that are well underway, as well as the acquisition of the remaining stake in PA Consulting, where we currently see opportunity for at least $20 million in annual cost synergies.
Venk Nathamuni: As it pertains to adjusted EBITDA margin, we're increasing our target by 100 basis points to 17% plus for fiscal year 2029. This is due to the implementation of gross margin and G&A initiatives that are well underway, as well as the acquisition of the remaining stake in PA Consulting, where we currently see opportunity for at least $20 million in annual cost synergies. This implies at least 75 basis points of identified annual margin improvement from fiscal year 2027 through fiscal year 2029, in addition to the 200 basis points we're expecting to deliver over the course of fiscal year 2025 and fiscal year 2026. Lastly, our high margin expectation and working capital management give us confidence we can now reach or exceed an 11% free cash flow margin, also up 100 basis points from our prior target.
Venk Nathamuni: As it pertains to adjusted EBITDA margin, we're increasing our target by 100 basis points to 17% plus for fiscal year 2029. This is due to the implementation of gross margin and G&A initiatives that are well underway, as well as the acquisition of the remaining stake in PA Consulting, where we currently see opportunity for at least $20 million in annual cost synergies. This implies at least 75 basis points of identified annual margin improvement from fiscal year 2027 through fiscal year 2029, in addition to the 200 basis points we're expecting to deliver over the course of fiscal year 2025 and fiscal year 2026. Lastly, our high margin expectation and working capital management give us confidence we can now reach or exceed an 11% free cash flow margin, also up 100 basis points from our prior target.
Speaker #1: This implies at least 75 basis points of identified annual margin improvement from fiscal year '27 through fiscal year '29. In addition to the 200 basis points we're expecting to deliver over the course of fiscal year '25 and fiscal year '26.
Speaker #1: And lastly, our high margin expectation and working capital management give us confidence we can now reach or exceed an 11% free cash flow margin, also up 100 basis points from our prior target.
Speaker #1: At our forecasted growth rate that implies 1.2 billion to 1.3 billion of annual free cash generation by fiscal year '29. We're off to a great start just about one-third of the way through our strategy cycle.
Venk Nathamuni: At our forecasted growth rate, that implies $1.2 to 1.3 billion of annual free cash generation by fiscal year 2029. We're off to a great start, just about one-third of the way through our strategy cycle. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Bob.
Venk Nathamuni: At our forecasted growth rate, that implies $1.2 to 1.3 billion of annual free cash generation by fiscal year 2029. We're off to a great start, just about one-third of the way through our strategy cycle. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Bob.
Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn the call back over to Bob.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Venk. In closing, we're tracking very well heading into the second half of the fiscal year, with strong Q2 performance enabling us to increase our full-year outlook for the second consecutive quarter.
Bob Pragada: Thank you, Venk. In closing, we're tracking very well heading into the H2 of the fiscal year, with strong Q2 performance enabling us to increase our full year outlook for the second consecutive quarter. We're seeing momentum in our growth rate, margin, and bookings trajectory, all of which give us confidence in our outlook. Operator, open the call for questions.
Bob Pragada: Thank you, Venk. In closing, we're tracking very well heading into the H2 of the fiscal year, with strong Q2 performance enabling us to increase our full year outlook for the second consecutive quarter. We're seeing momentum in our growth rate, margin, and bookings trajectory, all of which give us confidence in our outlook. Operator, open the call for questions.
Speaker #2: We're seeing momentum in our growth rate, margin, and bookings trajectory, all of which give us confidence in our outlook. Operator, open the call for questions.
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Speaker #4: Well, thanks. Good afternoon and congrats on the quarter. I just want to ask you at a high level—how much of the raise is driven operationally by, say, better-than-expected demand or operational performance versus bringing the rest of PA Consulting in?
Steven Fisher: Thanks. Good afternoon, and congrats on the quarter. I just wanna ask you, high level, how much of the raise is driven operationally by, say, better than expected demand or operational performance versus bringing the rest of PA Consulting in? We had sort of done some calculations that maybe it would be about a $0.10 to $0.20 increase from PA Consulting. Maybe our math was off, but just curious kind of how much was operational, and if so, where within the segments did you see that upside?
Steven Fisher: Thanks. Good afternoon, and congrats on the quarter. I just wanna ask you, high level, how much of the raise is driven operationally by, say, better than expected demand or operational performance versus bringing the rest of PA Consulting in? We had sort of done some calculations that maybe it would be about a $0.10 to $0.20 increase from PA Consulting. Maybe our math was off, but just curious kind of how much was operational, and if so, where within the segments did you see that upside?
Speaker #4: We had sort of done some calculations that maybe it would be about a $0.10 to $0.20 increase from PA Consulting; maybe our math was off.
Speaker #4: But just curious, kind of how much was operational, and if so, where within the segment did you see that upside?
Speaker #2: Yeah. So Steve, maybe I'll start it off, and then I'll hand it over to Venk. Just at a high level, it is purely based on our operational performance.
Bob Pragada: Yeah. Steve, maybe I'll start it off, and then I'll hand it over to Venk. You know, just at a high level, it is purely based on our operational performance. The drive we're seeing in our bookings, how that's translating into our run rate, that drove the top line. I'll let Venk talk a little bit about how that flowed down all the way to the bottom line, where there, in the consolidation, there might've been just a tad.
Bob Pragada: Yeah. Steve, maybe I'll start it off, and then I'll hand it over to Venk. You know, just at a high level, it is purely based on our operational performance. The drive we're seeing in our bookings, how that's translating into our run rate, that drove the top line. I'll let Venk talk a little bit about how that flowed down all the way to the bottom line, where there, in the consolidation, there might've been just a tad.
Speaker #2: The drive we're seeing in our bookings—how that's translating into our run rate—that drove the top line. And I'll let Venk talk a little bit about how that flowed down all the way to the bottom line where they're in the consolidation.
Speaker #2: There might have been just a tad. Yeah. Thanks, Steve, for the comment. I would say, yeah, as Bob mentioned, pretty solid performance on the INA upside of the business.
Venk Nathamuni: Yeah. Thanks, Steve, for the comment. I would say, yeah, as Bob mentioned, you know, pretty solid performance in, on the INAF side of the business. We got a little bit of a tailwind from PA from an FX perspective, but the bulk of our operational performance is driven by the INAF section. In addition to it, from a margin perspective, and I alluded to this in my prepared remarks, a lot of operating discipline in terms of just, you know, keeping tight controls. That in conjunction with some of the margin improvement that you saw, that's what drove the true outperformance.
Venk Nathamuni: Yeah. Thanks, Steve, for the comment. I would say, yeah, as Bob mentioned, you know, pretty solid performance in, on the INAF side of the business. We got a little bit of a tailwind from PA from an FX perspective, but the bulk of our operational performance is driven by the INAF section. In addition to it, from a margin perspective, and I alluded to this in my prepared remarks, a lot of operating discipline in terms of just, you know, keeping tight controls. That in conjunction with some of the margin improvement that you saw, that's what drove the true outperformance.
Speaker #2: We got a little bit of a tailwind from an FX perspective, but the bulk of our operational performance is driven by the INAF section.
Speaker #2: In addition to it, from a margin perspective, I alluded to this in my prepared remarks, a lot of operating discipline in terms of just keeping tight controls.
Speaker #2: And that, in conjunction with some of the margin improvement that you saw, that's what drove the true outperformance.
Speaker #4: Okay. That's very helpful. And then just kind of talking about AI and digital enablement, just curious if you can give us an update on kind of what the customer receptivity has been in the past few months to digital tools and anything AI-enabled and to what extent are you seeing sort of incrementally more margin opportunities coming from that?
Steven Fisher: Okay. That's very helpful. Then just sort of talking about AI and digital enablement, just curious if you can give us an update on kinda what the customer receptivity has been in the past few months to digital tools and anything AI-enabled. To what extent are you seeing sort of incrementally more margin opportunities coming from that? When might we see some of that coming through more materially?
Steven Fisher: Okay. That's very helpful. Then just sort of talking about AI and digital enablement, just curious if you can give us an update on kinda what the customer receptivity has been in the past few months to digital tools and anything AI-enabled. To what extent are you seeing sort of incrementally more margin opportunities coming from that? When might we see some of that coming through more materially?
Speaker #4: And when might we see some of that coming through more materially?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Steve, thanks for asking the question. AI is absolutely driving our business in what's going on with regard to the AI infrastructure build-out. We're seriously at an inflection point in this accelerating our entire business.
Bob Pragada: Yeah, Steven, thanks for asking the question. AI is absolutely driving our business in what's going on with regard to the AI infrastructure build-out. We're seriously at an inflection point, and it's accelerating our entire business. I'll kinda quantify what that means. Within the data center space, which right now represents between 3% to 4% of our overall business, that's growing at 100% year-on-year. Now, the AI ecosystem, which would include all the way from the beginning to the chips through the power and energy requirements and then how that's feeding the data center world, you know, that represents, in its entirety with our diversified offering, between 10% to 11% of our overall business, and that's growing in excess of 40%.
Bob Pragada: Yeah, Steven, thanks for asking the question. AI is absolutely driving our business in what's going on with regard to the AI infrastructure build-out. We're seriously at an inflection point, and it's accelerating our entire business. I'll kinda quantify what that means. Within the data center space, which right now represents between 3% to 4% of our overall business, that's growing at 100% year-on-year. Now, the AI ecosystem, which would include all the way from the beginning to the chips through the power and energy requirements and then how that's feeding the data center world, you know, that represents, in its entirety with our diversified offering, between 10% to 11% of our overall business, and that's growing in excess of 40%.
Speaker #2: I'll kind of quantify what that means. Within the data center space, which right now represents between 3 to 4 percent of our overall business, that's growing at 100% year on year.
Speaker #2: Now, the AI ecosystem—which would include all the way from the beginning to the chips, through the power and energy requirements, and then how that's feeding the data center world—that represents, in its entirety, with our diversified offering, between 10 to 11 percent of our overall business.
Speaker #2: And that's growing in excess of 40%. And so you're talking about a significant part of our business that's growing at a very fast rate, all centered around the AI infrastructure build.
Bob Pragada: You're talking about a significant part of our business that's growing at a very fast rate, all centered around the AI infrastructure build. It's having an indirect effect on AI and drug discovery and what's happening with kind of other sectors that wouldn't traditionally be affiliated with AI. We are well-positioned in the kind of the AI CapEx, AI infrastructure world. Our enablement internally is helping us become more efficient and deliver to that demand.
Bob Pragada: You're talking about a significant part of our business that's growing at a very fast rate, all centered around the AI infrastructure build. It's having an indirect effect on AI and drug discovery and what's happening with kind of other sectors that wouldn't traditionally be affiliated with AI. We are well-positioned in the kind of the AI CapEx, AI infrastructure world. Our enablement internally is helping us become more efficient and deliver to that demand.
Speaker #2: And then it's having an indirect effect on AI and drug discovery and what's happening with kind of other sectors that wouldn't traditionally be affiliated with AI.
Speaker #2: So, we are well positioned in the AI, CapEx, AI infrastructure world, and our enablement internally is helping us become more efficient and deliver to that demand.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Steven Fisher: Thank you.
Steven Fisher: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Sabahat Khan with RBC Capital Market. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sabahat Khan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sabahat Khan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Okay, great, thanks, and good afternoon. Maybe just extending the line of questioning that Steve just started on. One of the themes that we're discussing a lot is just the visibility to these types of projects for suppliers and vendors like yourself.
Sabahat Khan: Great. Thanks, good afternoon. Maybe just extending the line of questioning that Steve just started on. You know, one of the themes that we're discussing a lot is just the visibility to these types of projects for sort of suppliers and vendors like yourself. Can you maybe just talk about the demand? You know, sounds like it's growing at a very high clip, maybe what is the line of sight to sort of projects, you know, is it 6 months, 12 months? You know, is it multiple years? Maybe just talk to us about the near to medium-term visibility in that end market specifically. Thanks.
Sabahat Khan: Great. Thanks, good afternoon. Maybe just extending the line of questioning that Steve just started on. You know, one of the themes that we're discussing a lot is just the visibility to these types of projects for sort of suppliers and vendors like yourself. Can you maybe just talk about the demand? You know, sounds like it's growing at a very high clip, maybe what is the line of sight to sort of projects, you know, is it 6 months, 12 months? You know, is it multiple years? Maybe just talk to us about the near to medium-term visibility in that end market specifically. Thanks.
Speaker #4: Can you maybe just talk about the demand? It sounds like it's growing at a very high clip, but maybe what is the line of sight to sort of projects?
Speaker #4: Is it six months, 12 months? Is it multiple years? Maybe just talk to us about the near to medium-term visibility in that end market specifically.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Sabah, just for clarification—specifically around the AI infrastructure build—are you talking broadly across all of our end markets?
Bob Pragada: Yeah. Saba, just to clarification, specifically around kind of the AI infrastructure build, or are you talking broadly across all of our end markets?
Bob Pragada: Yeah. Saba, just to clarification, specifically around kind of the AI infrastructure build, or are you talking broadly across all of our end markets?
Speaker #4: More specifically, yeah, just on the data center and the 100% clip that you talked about, the growth, or just in that end market. Yeah.
Sabahat Khan: More specifically, yeah, just on the data center and the 100% clip that you talked about, the growth or just in that end market? Yeah.
Sabahat Khan: More specifically, yeah, just on the data center and the 100% clip that you talked about, the growth or just in that end market? Yeah.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Absolutely. Let me kind of quantify it first, Sabah. Our AI infrastructure pipeline, the data center component of that, the pipeline has gone up 400% year on year.
Bob Pragada: Yeah, absolutely. Let me kind of quantify it first, Saba. Our AI infrastructure pipeline, the data center component of that, the pipeline has gone up 400% year on year. We have visibility, you know, well through 2027, going into 2028. Our client relationships, kind of our long-term relationship based client model, is kind of gaining share of that client spend. These are the top hyperscalers as well as now the neocloud providers that are being supported. Then what's backing that visibility is really our relationship with NVIDIA.
Bob Pragada: Yeah, absolutely. Let me kind of quantify it first, Sabahat. Our AI infrastructure pipeline, the data center component of that, the pipeline has gone up 400% year on year. We have visibility, you know, well through 2027, going into 2028. Our client relationships, kind of our long-term relationship based client model, is kind of gaining share of that client spend. These are the top hyperscalers as well as now the neocloud providers that are being supported. Then what's backing that visibility is really our relationship with NVIDIA.
Speaker #2: We have visibility well through '27, going into '28. And our client relationships—kind of our long-term, relationship-based client model—is gaining share of that client spend.
Speaker #2: And these are the top hyperscalers as well as now the Neo Cloud providers that are being supported. And what's backing that visibility is really our relationship with NVIDIA.
Bob Pragada: Our work on the Digital Twin, the work that we're doing around the plan of record, and then as that's evolving with the next generation chip, and now we're talking about Vera Rubin, and we're in the middle of developing that plan of record, is tying us back into these AI players. The visibility is strong.
Speaker #2: Our work on the digital clin, the work that we're doing around the plan of record, and then as that's evolving with the next generation chip, and now we're talking about Vera Rubin now, and we're in the middle of developing that plan of record, is tying us back into these AI players.
Bob Pragada: Our work on the Digital Twin, the work that we're doing around the plan of record, and then as that's evolving with the next generation chip, and now we're talking about Vera Rubin, and we're in the middle of developing that plan of record, is tying us back into these AI players. The visibility is strong.
Speaker #2: And so the visibility is strong.
Speaker #4: Great. And then maybe just a question for Venk. I guess on the balance sheet side, assuming between PA and the share we purchased there this quarter leverages at about 2.1, just above your sort of targeted year-end range.
Sabahat Khan: Great. Maybe just a question for Venk. I guess on the balance sheet side, assuming between PA and the share we purchased there this quarter, leverage is at about 2.1, just above your sort of targeted year-end range. Can you just help us think through the likelihood of buyback? Is it gonna be more opportunistic and just sort of broader capital allocation, you know, given the free cash flow and the leverage for the rest of the year? Thanks.
Sabahat Khan: Great. Maybe just a question for Venk. I guess on the balance sheet side, assuming between PA and the share we purchased there this quarter, leverage is at about 2.1, just above your sort of targeted year-end range. Can you just help us think through the likelihood of buyback? Is it gonna be more opportunistic and just sort of broader capital allocation, you know, given the free cash flow and the leverage for the rest of the year? Thanks.
Speaker #4: Can you just help us think through the likelihood of buyback? Is it going to be more opportunistic and just sort of broader capital allocation given the free cash flow and the leverage for the rest of the year?
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Sabah. Clearly, as we highlighted during the press announcement, we did take on some debt to fund PA acquisition. We're at about 2.1 times.
Venk Nathamuni: Yes, Saba. You know, clearly, you know, as we highlighted during the press announcement, you know, we did take on some debt to fund the acquisition. We're about 2.1 times, we have a clear plan to delever pretty quickly. We said we'd be below 2 times by the end of fiscal year 2026, which is just, you know, a quarter and a half away. We've also been very aggressive in terms of our share repurchases. We are big believers in the value for our stock, we'll continue to maintain the share repurchase activity. We'll obviously modulate the quantum based on market conditions, our purpose in terms of the goals is to continue to reduce our leverage.
Venk Nathamuni: Yes, Saba. You know, clearly, you know, as we highlighted during the press announcement, you know, we did take on some debt to fund the acquisition. We're about 2.1 times, we have a clear plan to delever pretty quickly. We said we'd be below 2x by the end of fiscal year 2026, which is just, you know, a quarter and a half away. We've also been very aggressive in terms of our share repurchases. We are big believers in the value for our stock, we'll continue to maintain the share repurchase activity. We'll obviously modulate the quantum based on market conditions, our purpose in terms of the goals is to continue to reduce our leverage.
Speaker #2: But we have a clear plan to delever pretty quickly. And we said we'll be below 2 times by the end of fiscal year '26, which is just a quarter and a half away.
Speaker #2: Also, we've been very aggressive in terms of our share repurchases. We are big believers in the value per stock and will continue to maintain the share repurchase activity.
Speaker #2: We'll obviously modulate the quantum based on market conditions. But our purpose in terms of the goals is to continue to reduce our leverage so that we can get to about 1.5 times in fiscal '27 as well as be purchased as our stock.
Venk Nathamuni: As I said, we can get to, you know, about one and a half times in fiscal 2027, as well as the purchases of our stock. One thing to note is that, you know, our H2 tends to be very seasonally strong from a free cash flow perspective. We're expecting more, you know, $600 to 700 million of free cash flow in H2. That helps us delever fairly quickly. We have a lot of optionality, a lot of ability to do both the buybacks as well as delever without, you know, straining the balance sheet.
Venk Nathamuni: As I said, we can get to, you know, about one and a half times in fiscal 2027, as well as the purchases of our stock. One thing to note is that, you know, our H2 tends to be very seasonally strong from a free cash flow perspective. We're expecting more, you know, $600 to 700 million of free cash flow in H2. That helps us delever fairly quickly. We have a lot of optionality, a lot of ability to do both the buybacks as well as delever without, you know, straining the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: And then one thing to note is that our second half tends to be very seasonally strong from a free cash flow perspective. We're expecting more in a 6 to 7 hundred million dollars of free cash flow in 2H so that helps us delever fairly quickly.
Speaker #2: So we have a lot of optionality. A lot of ability to do both the buybacks as well as delever without straining the balance sheet.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks very much.
Sabahat Khan: Thanks very much.
Sabahat Khan: Thanks very much.
Speaker #2: You're welcome.
Venk Nathamuni: You're welcome.
Venk Nathamuni: You're welcome.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Dettus with Vertical Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Dudas with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Michael Dudas with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Good afternoon, gentlemen.
Michael Dudas: Good afternoon, gentlemen.
Michael Dudas: Good afternoon, gentlemen.
Speaker #2: Good afternoon, Michael.
Bob Pragada: Afternoon, Michael.
Bob Pragada: Afternoon, Michael.
Venk Nathamuni: Afternoon.
Venk Nathamuni: Afternoon.
Michael Dudas: Hey, Bob, you've had, well, 5 years and 2 months of insight into PA. Maybe you could share a little bit about what the combination now that's on board with 100% Jacobs has in store? What areas we can look for over the next 6 to 12 months that might show up in help on not only on the better on the bookings or more lifecycle driven or, maybe even better on the margin front as you execute through the plan of the combined company?
Michael Dudas: Hey, Bob, you've had, well, 5 years and 2 months of insight into PA. Maybe you could share a little bit about what the combination now that's on board with 100% Jacobs has in store? What areas we can look for over the next 6 to 12 months that might show up in help on not only on the better on the bookings or more lifecycle driven or, maybe even better on the margin front as you execute through the plan of the combined company?
Speaker #5: Hey, Bob. You've had, well, five years and two months of insight into PA. Maybe share a little bit about what the combination now that's on board with 100% Jacobs has in store.
Speaker #5: What areas that have been weak to look for over the next 6 to 12 months that might show up in help on not only on the bookings or more life cycle-driven or maybe even better on the margin front as you execute through the plan of the combined company?
Speaker #2: Yeah, Mike. I'd probably segregate it into two parts. One is a capability set that we've been working on over that course of that runway of five years together and the relationship that we've had.
Bob Pragada: Michael, I'd probably segregate it into two parts. One is a capability set that we've been working on over the course of that, you know, that runway of 5 years together and the relationship that we've had. The second, apply that to the, you know, the adjacencies that we've already got a track record on by end market perspective. One on the capabilities. What we've done over the last 5 years is really built out our digital capability set, and this spans everything from software developers all the way through to, you know, these digital platforms and digital products that are helping enable innovation within our clients' business as well as our own, but our clients' business.
Bob Pragada: Michael, I'd probably segregate it into two parts. One is a capability set that we've been working on over the course of that, you know, that runway of 5 years together and the relationship that we've had. The second, apply that to the, you know, the adjacencies that we've already got a track record on by end market perspective. One on the capabilities. What we've done over the last 5 years is really built out our digital capability set, and this spans everything from software developers all the way through to, you know, these digital platforms and digital products that are helping enable innovation within our clients' business as well as our own, but our clients' business.
Speaker #2: And then the second, apply that to the adjacencies that we've already got a track record on by end market perspective. So one on the capabilities.
Speaker #2: So what we've done over the last five years is really, really built out our digital capability set. And this spans everything from software developers all the way through to these digital platforms and digital products that are helping enable innovation within our client's business, as well as our own.
Speaker #2: But our client's business. And now together, we have nearly 2,000 kind of digital experts that we're looking at how to further integrate as one company that platform.
Bob Pragada: Now together, we have nearly 2,000 kind of digital experts that we're, you know, we're looking at how to further integrate as one company that platform. The end market that that applies to kind of separate between, you know, what we're seeing in Europe with regards to national security, global security in the public sector. Then in the US, energy and utilities and transport. What we're seeing in Europe with the defense independent Europe is that, you know, PA's deep entrenchment, not just with the UK MOD, but also now with sovereign nations in Europe building up their own defense posture, is turning into defense infrastructure.
Bob Pragada: Now together, we have nearly 2,000 kind of digital experts that we're, you know, we're looking at how to further integrate as one company that platform. The end market that that applies to kind of separate between, you know, what we're seeing in Europe with regards to national security, global security in the public sector. Then in the US, energy and utilities and transport. What we're seeing in Europe with the defense independent Europe is that, you know, PA's deep entrenchment, not just with the UK MOD, but also now with sovereign nations in Europe building up their own defense posture, is turning into defense infrastructure.
Speaker #2: The end markets that that applies to, kind of separate between what we're seeing in Europe with regards to national security, global security, and the public sector.
Speaker #2: And then in the US, energy and utilities and transport. What we're seeing in Europe with a defense-independent Europe is that PA's deep entrenchment, not just with the UK MOD, but also now with sovereign nations in Europe, building up their own defense posture, is turning into defense infrastructure.
Speaker #2: So that asset lifecycle is something that we're primed, as a combined entity, to deliver, as well as what we're seeing in the public sector on the increased digitization and enablement through government efficiencies that PA is in the middle of and engaging right behind.
Bob Pragada: That asset life cycle is something that we're, you know, we're primed as a combined entity to deliver, as well as what we're seeing in the public sector on the increased digitization and enablement through government deficiencies that PA is in the middle of and staying right behind. In the US, it really is around energy and utilities and transport. You know, that end-to-end cycle of transport advisory all the way through to delivering complex programs and projects is something that we're really excited about. Now, the combined digital capability and driving that in the energy and utility space, driven again by the AI infrastructure, which we just talked about, we're excited about the future with PA.
Bob Pragada: That asset life cycle is something that we're, you know, we're primed as a combined entity to deliver, as well as what we're seeing in the public sector on the increased digitization and enablement through government deficiencies that PA is in the middle of and staying right behind. In the US, it really is around energy and utilities and transport. You know, that end-to-end cycle of transport advisory all the way through to delivering complex programs and projects is something that we're really excited about. Now, the combined digital capability and driving that in the energy and utility space, driven again by the AI infrastructure, which we just talked about, we're excited about the future with PA.
Speaker #2: In the US, it really is around energy and utilities and transport. That end-to-end cycle of transport advisory all the way through to delivering complex programs and projects is something that we're really excited about.
Speaker #2: And now with the combined digital capability and driving that in the energy and utility space, driven again by the AI infrastructure, which you just talked about, we're excited about the future of PA.
Speaker #4: Excellent. My follow-up, Bob, is the critical infrastructure showing very strong growth this quarter. It's been certainly chugging along quite well. It probably gets lost in the headlines a little bit given all the data center and advanced facilities work.
Michael Dudas: Excellent. My follow-up, Bob, is the critical infrastructure showing very strong growth this quarter has been certainly chugging along quite well. It probably gets lost in the headlines a little bit given all the data center and advanced facilities work. Do you continue to see very solid opportunities, certainly H2 into 2027? Any additional thoughts on IIJA 2.0? You can think of the issues or your clients are concerned about any of the issues that might arise if there's a delay or with the Congress and the changes?
Michael Dudas: Excellent. My follow-up, Bob, is the critical infrastructure showing very strong growth this quarter has been certainly chugging along quite well. It probably gets lost in the headlines a little bit given all the data center and advanced facilities work. Do you continue to see very solid opportunities, certainly H2 into 2027? Any additional thoughts on IIJA 2.0? You can think of the issues or your clients are concerned about any of the issues that might arise if there's a delay or with the Congress and the changes?
Speaker #4: Do you continue to see very solid opportunities? Certainly, second half of year into 2027. And any additional thoughts on IIJA 2.0—will you think of any issues or are your clients concerned about any of the issues that might arise if there's a delay, or with the Congress and the changes?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Yep. Mike, maybe I'll separate that into two as well. Yes. We're proud about the critical infrastructure piece. That's really being driven by two primary areas.
Bob Pragada: Yeah. Yep. Mike, maybe I'll separate that into 2 as well. Yes, we're proud about the critical infrastructure piece that's really being driven by 2 primary areas. 1 is global transportation. We're seeing strong, you know, in high single digits, in certain areas, certain geographies, kind of double-digit growth within transportation. That's really around continued build-out of the aviation sector, as well as ports and maritime, which is a really strong subsector for us. That's been really good. These have long tail type of not just procurement processes, which we kind of felt, you know, in the last 3 or 4 years, but now the design and the build cycle is something where we're really starting to see the fruits of that.
Bob Pragada: Yeah. Yep. Mike, maybe I'll separate that into two as well. Yes, we're proud about the critical infrastructure piece that's really being driven by 2 primary areas. 1 is global transportation. We're seeing strong, you know, in high single digits, in certain areas, certain geographies, kind of double-digit growth within transportation. That's really around continued build-out of the aviation sector, as well as ports and maritime, which is a really strong subsector for us. That's been really good. These have long tail type of not just procurement processes, which we kind of felt, you know, in the last 3 or 4 years, but now the design and the build cycle is something where we're really starting to see the fruits of that.
Speaker #2: One is global transportation. We're seeing strong and high single-digit in certain geographies. Kind of double-digit growth within transportation. And that's really around continued build-out of the aviation sector, as well as ports and maritime, which is a really strong subsector for us.
Speaker #2: And so that's been really good. And these have long-tail type of not just procurement processes, which are kind of felt in the last three or four years, but now the design and the build cycle is something where we're really starting to see the fruits of that.
Bob Pragada: You know, the second part, as far as in the US IIJA, what happens, you know, with the election this year. You know, we've modeled every scenario, as you can imagine. In each scenario, we do see, you know, at a minimum, a continuing resolution, which actually would be good for us. What happens on the extension of IIJA, is there a new bill? You know, looks promising, probably too early to speculate right now. Even on a continuing resolution, you know, these are long tail type of programs, and we're only 50% outlaid on the current IIJA. Things continue to look solid.
Bob Pragada: You know, the second part, as far as in the US IIJA, what happens, you know, with the election this year. You know, we've modeled every scenario, as you can imagine. In each scenario, we do see, you know, at a minimum, a continuing resolution, which actually would be good for us. What happens on the extension of IIJA, is there a new bill? You know, looks promising, probably too early to speculate right now. Even on a continuing resolution, you know, these are long tail type of programs, and we're only 50% outlaid on the current IIJA. Things continue to look solid.
Speaker #2: The second part, as far as in the US, IIJA, what happens with the election this year—we've kind of, we've modeled every scenario, as you can imagine.
Speaker #2: And in each scenario, we do see at a minimum a continuing resolution, which actually would be good for us. And then what happens on the extension of IIJA?
Speaker #2: Is there a new bill? Looks promising. But probably too early to speculate right now. But even on a continuing resolution, these are long-tail type of programs.
Speaker #2: And we're only 50% outlaid on the current IIJA. So things continue to look solid.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Bob.
Michael Dudas: Thank you, Bob.
Michael Dudas: Thank you, Bob.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Adam Bubise with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Adam Bubes with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Adam Bubes with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hi. Good afternoon. Just wondering if you could help us parse out the new versus old guidance. Is there a way to frame what incremental EBITDA on the new guide is coming from the acquired stake in PA consulting and how much of the incremental EBITDA uplift is underlying?
Adam Bubes: Hi, good afternoon. Just wondering if you could help us parse out the new versatile guidance. Is there a way to frame, you know, what incremental EBITDA and the new guide is coming from the acquired stake in PA Consulting, and how much of the incremental EBITDA uplift is underlying?
Adam Bubes: Hi, good afternoon. Just wondering if you could help us parse out the new versatile guidance. Is there a way to frame, you know, what incremental EBITDA and the new guide is coming from the acquired stake in PA Consulting, and how much of the incremental EBITDA uplift is underlying?
Speaker #2: Yeah. I think that, Adam. So I'll separate it into fiscal year '26 guidance and then obviously we provided guidance for fiscal year '29 as well.
Venk Nathamuni: Yeah, I'll take that, Adam Bubes. You know, I'll separate it into fiscal year 2026 guidance and then obviously we provided guidance for fiscal year 2029 as well. In fiscal year 2026, you know, we increased our range from 14.7 to now a new range of 14.6 to 14.9. That is, you know, primarily driven by the full consolidation of PA. There are additional, you know, measures and initiatives that we are putting in place that will drive towards the margin expansion.
Venk Nathamuni: Yeah, I'll take that, Adam. You know, I'll separate it into fiscal year 2026 guidance and then obviously we provided guidance for fiscal year 2029 as well. In fiscal year 2026, you know, we increased our range from 14.7 to now a new range of 14.6 to 14.9. That is, you know, primarily driven by the full consolidation of PA. There are additional, you know, measures and initiatives that we are putting in place that will drive towards the margin expansion.
Speaker #2: So in fiscal year '26, we've increased our range from 14.7 to now a new range of 14.6 to 14.9. So that is primarily driven by the full consolidation of PA.
Speaker #2: But there are additional measures and initiatives that we are putting in place that will drive towards the margin expansion. And then on fiscal year '29 basis, it's not just the PA consolidation, but also the fact that we talked about multiple identified initiatives in terms of gross margin drivers, in terms of how we engage with the commercial model, the increased use of AI, and so forth.
Venk Nathamuni: On fiscal year 29 basis, you know, it's not just the PA consolidation, but also the fact that we talked about, you know, multiple identified initiatives in terms of gross margin drivers, in terms of how we, you know, engage with the commercial model, you know, the increased use of AI and so forth. I'd say the vast majority of that comes from the operational improvements across both the commercial model, and, you know, global business, and global delivery model is also a fundamental part of how we drive margin expansion. That's progressing really well, and we expect that to continue to accelerate.
Venk Nathamuni: On fiscal year 29 basis, you know, it's not just the PA consolidation, but also the fact that we talked about, you know, multiple identified initiatives in terms of gross margin drivers, in terms of how we, you know, engage with the commercial model, you know, the increased use of AI and so forth. I'd say the vast majority of that comes from the operational improvements across both the commercial model, and, you know, global business, and global delivery model is also a fundamental part of how we drive margin expansion. That's progressing really well, and we expect that to continue to accelerate.
Speaker #2: So I'd say the vast majority of that comes from the operational improvements across both the commercial model and global business and global delivery models also a fundamental part of how we drive margin expansion.
Speaker #2: And so that's progressing really well. And we expect that to continue to accelerate. And then last but not least, we are making a commitment to continue to drive operating leverage such that we will grow the OPEX at a substantially lower rate than the revenue run rate.
Venk Nathamuni: Last but not least, we are making a commitment to continue to drive operating leverage such that, you know, we will grow the OpEx at a substantially lower rate than the revenue rate. It's, you know, not one thing. It's a multitude of tools that we have to drive continued margin expansion.
Venk Nathamuni: Last but not least, we are making a commitment to continue to drive operating leverage such that, you know, we will grow the OpEx at a substantially lower rate than the revenue rate. It's, you know, not one thing. It's a multitude of tools that we have to drive continued margin expansion.
Speaker #2: So it's not one thing. It's a multitude of tools that we have to drive continued margin expansion.
Speaker #6: Great. And then can you just update us on how you expect your AI-integrated offerings to evolve over the next 12 to 16 months? Any incremental investments or opportunities on that side?
Adam Bubes: Great. Then can you just update us on how you expect your AI integrated offerings to evolve over the next 12 to 16 months? Any incremental investments or opportunities on that side?
Adam Bubes: Great. Then can you just update us on how you expect your AI integrated offerings to evolve over the next 12 to 16 months? Any incremental investments or opportunities on that side?
Speaker #2: Well, Adam, I'd say that as far as any incremental investments, we don't see it. We've been investing in digital enablement for the better part of this year.
Bob Pragada: Well, Adam, I'd say that as far as any incremental investments, we don't see it. You know, we've been investing in digital enablement for the better part of this year. It's now growing. It's now 7 years that we've been doing this. I don't see us having to make some huge investment in order to continue on the trajectory that we're on. The way it's evolving is in, you know, it is definitely being pulled from the market with the acceleration that we're seeing in our end markets. It's really both what we're doing for our clients' business as well as what we're doing for ourselves is really going into full gear. It has been in full gear, it's accelerating.
Bob Pragada: Well, Adam, I'd say that as far as any incremental investments, we don't see it. You know, we've been investing in digital enablement for the better part of this year. It's now growing. It's now seven years that we've been doing this. I don't see us having to make some huge investment in order to continue on the trajectory that we're on. The way it's evolving is in, you know, it is definitely being pulled from the market with the acceleration that we're seeing in our end markets. It's really both what we're doing for our clients' business as well as what we're doing for ourselves is really going into full gear. It has been in full gear, it's accelerating.
Speaker #2: I keep saying, it's now growing. It's now seven years that we've been doing this. So I don't see us having to make some huge investment in order to continue on the trajectory that we're on.
Speaker #2: The way it's evolving is in it is definitely being a it's being pulled from the market with the acceleration that we're seeing in our end markets.
Speaker #2: And it's really both what we're doing for our clients' business as well as what we're doing for ourselves is really going into full gear, has been in full gear with accelerating again, AI infrastructure, which is kind of the virtual cycle is driving that.
Bob Pragada: Again, AI infrastructure, which is kind of the virtuous cycle, is driving that, and we're centrally positioned for that entire build-out.
Bob Pragada: Again, AI infrastructure, which is kind of the virtuous cycle, is driving that, and we're centrally positioned for that entire build-out.
Speaker #2: And we're centrally positioned for that entire build-out.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks so much.
Adam Bubes: Great. Thanks so much.
Adam Bubes: Great. Thanks so much.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Sangeetha Jain. With KeyBank Capital Market, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sangita Jain with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Sangita Jain with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you so much. Bob, can you give us an update on the Middle East and what you're seeing there in terms of activity levels and just kind of how your folks are handling the situation?
Sangita Jain: Great. Thank you so much. Bob, can you give us an update on the Middle East and what you're seeing there in terms of activity levels and just kinda how your folks are handling the situation?
Sangita Jain: Great. Thank you so much. Bob, can you give us an update on the Middle East and what you're seeing there in terms of activity levels and just kinda how your folks are handling the situation?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Sangeetha, first and foremost, we have been acutely focused on the safety of our people from the beginning till now to every single day.
Bob Pragada: Yeah, Sangita. First and foremost, we have been acutely focused on the safety of our people. From the beginning till now to every single day, we've had crisis management teams stood up and are doing not just daily, hourly check-ins on our people, and they continue to be extremely resilient. The second I would say is that we have been very deliberate and vocal about focusing in on time-based mission-critical programs and projects in the Middle East. For us, that's predominantly in Saudi and in the Emirates. Those have continued, and they've been centered around transportation as well as water and, you know, time-based venues. Those have not stopped.
Bob Pragada: Yeah, Sangita. First and foremost, we have been acutely focused on the safety of our people. From the beginning till now to every single day, we've had crisis management teams stood up and are doing not just daily, hourly check-ins on our people, and they continue to be extremely resilient. The second I would say is that we have been very deliberate and vocal about focusing in on time-based mission-critical programs and projects in the Middle East. For us, that's predominantly in Saudi and in the Emirates. Those have continued, and they've been centered around transportation as well as water and, you know, time-based venues. Those have not stopped.
Speaker #2: We've had crisis management teams stood up, and are doing not just daily, but hourly check-ins on our people. And they continue to be extremely resilient.
Speaker #2: The second, I would say, is that we have been very deliberate and vocal about focusing in on time-based, mission-critical programs and projects in the Middle East.
Speaker #2: And for us, that's predominantly in Saudi and in the Emirates. Those have continued. And they've been centered around transportation, as well as water, and time-based venues.
Speaker #2: And those have not stopped. So I'd kind of characterize it right now as we've seen minimal disruption, and the team has been extremely resilient in delivering those from the confines of their own home.
Bob Pragada: I'd kinda characterize it right now as, we've seen minimal disruption, and the team has been extremely resilient in delivering those from the confines of their own home. Just recently today, we went back into a work from home scenario. Those are kind of the highlights. What's really been the backbone of this, and it goes to something that Venk has talked about several times before, is our global delivery model. You know, we're delivering services for our clients, not only with folks that we have in country, in region, in kingdom, but also from around the world. That, that has really been highlighted and has served as a strength.
Bob Pragada: I'd kinda characterize it right now as, we've seen minimal disruption, and the team has been extremely resilient in delivering those from the confines of their own home. Just recently today, we went back into a work from home scenario. Those are kind of the highlights. What's really been the backbone of this, and it goes to something that Venk has talked about several times before, is our global delivery model. You know, we're delivering services for our clients, not only with folks that we have in country, in region, in kingdom, but also from around the world. That, that has really been highlighted and has served as a strength.
Speaker #2: And just recently today, we went back into a work-from-home scenario. And so those are kind of the highlights. What's really been the backbone of this and it goes to something that Venkatesh talked about several times before is our global delivery model.
Speaker #2: We're delivering services for our clients not only with folks that we have in-country, in-region, in-kingdom, but also from around the world. And that has really been highlighted and has served as a strength.
Speaker #5: Great. That's super helpful. And then I know we've talked about data centers on this call, but can you tell us what you're seeing in life sciences and advanced pharmaceuticals?
Sangita Jain: Great. That's super helpful. I know we've talked about data centers on this call, but can you tell us what you're seeing in life sciences and advanced pharmaceuticals, and if there is any appetite to reshore even further back to the US?
Sangita Jain: Great. That's super helpful. I know we've talked about data centers on this call, but can you tell us what you're seeing in life sciences and advanced pharmaceuticals, and if there is any appetite to reshore even further back to the US?
Speaker #5: And if there is any appetite to reshore even further back to the US?
Bob Pragada: Yeah, absolutely, Sangita. The life sciences business is in real time pipeline up 81% year on year. A lot of in-flight pursuits that we've been in the early stages are soon to be going into the field. That business into the field in the US. We are now starting to see a bit of a build going on in Europe as well. That has been a continues to be a really strong business for us. It's, you know, it kinda goes through the different phases. Some of that reshoring activity that started a year, 2 years ago, you know, you'll start to see those now mature in the field over the course of the next few quarters.
Speaker #2: That's in real yeah, absolutely, Sangeetha. The life sciences business is in real-time pipeline up 81% year-on-year. A lot of in-flight pursuits that we've been in the early stages are soon to be going into the field.
Bob Pragada: Yeah, absolutely, Sangita. The life sciences business is in real time pipeline up 81% year on year. A lot of in-flight pursuits that we've been in the early stages are soon to be going into the field. That business into the field in the US. We are now starting to see a bit of a build going on in Europe as well. That has been a continues to be a really strong business for us. It's, you know, it kinda goes through the different phases. Some of that reshoring activity that started a year, 2 years ago, you know, you'll start to see those now mature in the field over the course of the next few quarters.
Speaker #2: And so that business and into the field in the US, but we are now starting to see a bit of build going on in Europe as well.
Speaker #2: But that has been a continues to be a really strong business for us. And it kind of goes through the different phases. So some of that reshoring activity that started a year, two years ago you'll start to see those now mature in the field over the course of the next few quarters.
Speaker #5: Great. Thank you so much.
Sangita Jain: Great. Thank you so much.
Sangita Jain: Great. Thank you so much.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Hi. Good evening and congrats on a nice quarter. I guess just question, Venk, maybe this is more for you versus Bob, but I'm just looking at the EBITDA margin trajectory implied in the back half of the guidance.
Jamie Cook: Hi, good evening, and congrats on a nice quarter. I guess just question, Venk, maybe this is more for you versus Bob, but I'm just looking at the EBITDA margin trajectory implied in the back half of the guidance. I think you said Q3, you know, 15-ish, Q4, 16-ish. Understanding it's PA Consulting and maybe a couple working days, but still structurally, there still seems to be, you know, some margin improvements. I'm just wondering, you know, given where the margins are implied in the back half of the year, what the setup is for fiscal year 2027, because it doesn't seem like, you know, the street is factoring in margins, you know, that are implied in the back half.
Jamie Cook: Hi, good evening, and congrats on a nice quarter. I guess just question, Venk, maybe this is more for you versus Bob, but I'm just looking at the EBITDA margin trajectory implied in the back half of the guidance. I think you said Q3, you know, 15-ish, Q4, 16-ish. Understanding it's PA Consulting and maybe a couple working days, but still structurally, there still seems to be, you know, some margin improvements. I'm just wondering, you know, given where the margins are implied in the back half of the year, what the setup is for fiscal year 2027, because it doesn't seem like, you know, the street is factoring in margins, you know, that are implied in the back half. I don't want to make too much of it, but I'm just wondering if, we're missing the margin opportunity potential. Thank you.
Speaker #4: I think you said third quarter '15-ish, fourth quarter '16-ish. Understanding it's PA consulting and maybe an extra couple of working days, but still structurally, there still seems to be some margin improvements.
Speaker #4: And I'm just wondering, given where the margins are implied in the back half of the year, what the setup is for fiscal year 2027 because it doesn't seem like the street is factoring in margins that are implied in the back half.
Speaker #4: And I don't want to make too much of it, but I'm just wondering if we're missing the margin opportunity potential. Thank you.
Jamie Cook: I don't want to make too much of it, but I'm just wondering if, we're missing the margin opportunity potential. Thank you.
Speaker #2: No, Jamie, thanks for the question. So as you pointed out, we guided for 15% in Q3, which would represent about a 90 basis point sequential improvement, which is pretty good.
Venk Nathamuni: No, Jamie, thanks for the question. You know, as you pointed out, you know, we guided for 15% in Q3, which would represent about a 90 basis point sequential improvement, which is pretty good. As you pointed out, you know, that would imply a 16% plus margin in Q4. As I've talked about in the last quarter, you know, we're investing in some programs that are identified, and they're ramping those investments for delivery in Q4. That gives us good visibility to 16% plus in Q4. You know, the fact that we have executed on that plan last year as well, we feel pretty good about the margin trajectory. Looking beyond in, you know, Q4, obviously, you know, there's still substantial margin improvement ahead of us.
Venk Nathamuni: No, Jamie, thanks for the question. You know, as you pointed out, you know, we guided for 15% in Q3, which would represent about a 90 basis point sequential improvement, which is pretty good. As you pointed out, you know, that would imply a 16% plus margin in Q4. As I've talked about in the last quarter, you know, we're investing in some programs that are identified, and they're ramping those investments for delivery in Q4. That gives us good visibility to 16% plus in Q4. You know, the fact that we have executed on that plan last year as well, we feel pretty good about the margin trajectory. Looking beyond in, you know, Q4, obviously, you know, there's still substantial margin improvement ahead of us.
Speaker #2: And then as you pointed out, that would imply a 16% plus margin in Q4. As I've talked about in the last quarter, we're investing in some programs that are identified and they're ramping those investments for delivery in Q4.
Speaker #2: That gives us good visibility to 16% plus in Q4. And the fact that we have executed on that plan last year as well, we feel pretty good about the margin trajectory.
Speaker #2: And then looking beyond Q4, obviously, there's still substantial margin improvement ahead of us. Just to put things in context, the last couple of years, fiscal '25 and '26 would have delivered about 200 basis points of margin expansion.
Venk Nathamuni: You know, just to put things in context, the last, you know, couple of years, fiscal 2025 and 2026 would have delivered about 200 basis points of margin expansion. We're guiding for another 75 basis points per year. Keep in mind also that, you know, some of the other margin drivers for us, apart from the gross margin things that I talked about earlier, is global delivery and then the mix, right? As we combine PA Consulting and Jacobs, the opportunity to deliver on the entirety of the asset life cycle and the fact that the PA margins are substantially higher than Jacobs, that gives us the opportunity to go back and upsell some of those margins as well. Lots of room for us to continue to execute on margins, and we feel pretty good about our guidance.
Venk Nathamuni: You know, just to put things in context, the last, you know, couple of years, fiscal 2025 and 2026 would have delivered about 200 basis points of margin expansion. We're guiding for another 75 basis points per year. Keep in mind also that, you know, some of the other margin drivers for us, apart from the gross margin things that I talked about earlier, is global delivery and then the mix, right? As we combine PA Consulting and Jacobs, the opportunity to deliver on the entirety of the asset life cycle and the fact that the PA margins are substantially higher than Jacobs, that gives us the opportunity to go back and upsell some of those margins as well. Lots of room for us to continue to execute on margins, and we feel pretty good about our guidance.
Speaker #2: And then we're guiding for another 75 basis points per year. Keep in mind also that some of the other margin drivers for us, apart from the gross margin things that I talked about earlier, is global delivery and then the mix, right?
Speaker #2: As we combine PA consulting and Jacobs, the opportunity to deliver on the entirety of the asset lifecycle and the fact that the PA margins are substantially higher than Jacobs, that gives us the opportunity to go back and upsell some of those margins as well.
Speaker #2: So lots of room for us to continue to execute on margins, and we feel pretty good about our guidance.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Jamie Cook: Thank you.
Jamie Cook: Thank you.
Speaker #2: You're welcome.
Venk Nathamuni: You're welcome.
Venk Nathamuni: You're welcome.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Jerry Revich: Yes, hi, good evening. Nice to see the really strong bookings performance. Can you just talk about comfortably what level of organic growth do you think you could ramp the business up to without having significant resource constraints? Is it possible if the bookings trajectory continues to get to double-digit organic growth, you know, the extra week notwithstanding in the Q4? You know, what are the implications for margins beyond what you folks just laid out if you do ramp up to that level of capacity utilization implied by getting to double-digit growth?
Speaker #6: Yes, hi. Good evening. Nice to see the really strong bookings performance. Can you just talk about comfortably what level of organic growth do you think you could ramp the business up to without having a significant resource constraints?
Jerry Revich: Yes, hi, good evening. Nice to see the really strong bookings performance. Can you just talk about comfortably what level of organic growth do you think you could ramp the business up to without having significant resource constraints? Is it possible if the bookings trajectory continues to get to double-digit organic growth, you know, the extra week notwithstanding in the Q4? You know, what are the implications for margins beyond what you folks just laid out if you do ramp up to that level of capacity utilization implied by getting to double-digit growth?
Speaker #6: Is it possible, if the bookings trajectory continues, to get to double-digit organic growth—the extra week notwithstanding in the fourth quarter? And what are the implications for margins beyond what you folks just laid out if you do ramp up to that level of capacity utilization implied by getting to double-digit growth?
Speaker #7: Jenny, we missed the first part of your question. If you don't mind, the first part was a little garbled, Jerry. Do you mind mentioning the first part again?
Bob Pragada: Jerry, we missed the first part of your question. The first part was a little garbled, Jerry. Do you mind mentioning the first part again?
Bob Pragada: Jerry, we missed the first part of your question. The first part was a little garbled, Jerry. Do you mind mentioning the first part again?
Speaker #2: Yeah. I apologize for the poor connection. I was asking really strong bookings performance and I'm wondering do you have the resources on hand from essentially capacity standpoint to ramp up to get to potentially double-digit organic growth and if you do get to that level of growth, what are the implications for potential additional margin upside beyond what you folks laid out?
Jerry Revich: Yeah. I apologize for the poor connection. I was asking, really strong bookings performance and I'm wondering, do you have the resources on hand from essentially capacity standpoint to ramp up to get to potentially double-digit organic growth? You know, if you do get to that level of growth, what are the implications for potential additional margin upside beyond what you folks laid out?
Jerry Revich: Yeah. I apologize for the poor connection. I was asking, really strong bookings performance and I'm wondering, do you have the resources on hand from essentially capacity standpoint to ramp up to get to potentially double-digit organic growth? You know, if you do get to that level of growth, what are the implications for potential additional margin upside beyond what you folks laid out?
Speaker #6: Yeah, absolutely. So the short answer, Jerry, is yes. We do have the capacity. And this goes to exactly what we've been talking about for quite some time as well as highlighted in our strategy.
Bob Pragada: Absolutely. The short answer, Jerry Revich, is yes, we do have the capacity, and this goes to exactly what we've been talking about for quite some time, as well as highlighted in our strategy. You know, that global delivery model, if you think about it just year on year, the growth in what we call global delivery is well into the double digits. Our ability to access talented labor that's delivering at a very high level has been very strong. Short answer, yes. Our resourcing to meet what is in our backlog, coupled with the progress that's being made on those programs, projects, engagements, we feel strongly about, and it is driving the margin.
Bob Pragada: Absolutely. The short answer, Jerry Revich, is yes, we do have the capacity, and this goes to exactly what we've been talking about for quite some time, as well as highlighted in our strategy. You know, that global delivery model, if you think about it just year on year, the growth in what we call global delivery is well into the double digits. Our ability to access talented labor that's delivering at a very high level has been very strong. Short answer, yes. Our resourcing to meet what is in our backlog, coupled with the progress that's being made on those programs, projects, engagements, we feel strongly about, and it is driving the margin.
Speaker #6: That global delivery model if you think about it, just year-on-year, the growth in what we call global delivery is well into the double digits.
Speaker #6: And our ability to access talented labor that's delivering at a very high level has been very, very strong. So, short answer, yes. And so our resourcing to meet what is in our backlog, coupled with the progress that's being made on those programs, projects, engagements, we feel strongly about.
Speaker #6: And it is driving margins. And so it's yes on the margin front as well. So we're in them separately. On the reshoring side, one area where we're seeing significant progress is in semis and their industry group is talking about a return to '24 levels of highs of CapEx for semis into next year.
Bob Pragada: It's yes on the margin front as well.
Bob Pragada: It's yes on the margin front as well.
Jerry Revich: Subra, then separately, on the reshoring side, one area where we're seeing significant progress is in semis and their, the industry group is talking about a return to 2024 levels of highs of CapEx for semis into next year. Can you talk about what you're seeing? Is that consistent with the opportunity set that you folks see? Is there potential for additional projects to move forward beyond what the group is looking for in 2027?
Jerry Revich: Subra, then separately, on the reshoring side, one area where we're seeing significant progress is in semis and their, the industry group is talking about a return to 2024 levels of highs of CapEx for semis into next year. Can you talk about what you're seeing? Is that consistent with the opportunity set that you folks see? Is there potential for additional projects to move forward beyond what the group is looking for in 2027?
Speaker #6: Can you talk about what you're seeing? Is that consistent with opportunity set that you folks see as their potential for additional projects to move forward beyond what the group is looking for in '27?
Bob Pragada: Again, Jerry, yes and yes. We are seeing it. That's why, you know, if I go back, yes, we are seeing that investment in the semi, the semi sector. Yes, we do see that cycle transcending well into 2027. I think what's important is what's driving it, and it goes back to, you know, the earlier comments around the AI infrastructure, right? Where we're positioned right now on high bandwidth memory manufacturing facilities is putting us on the front end of what we're seeing then translate into the utility sector and then eventually into the racks, so into the compute load in the data centers.
Speaker #2: Again, Jerry, yes and yes. So we are seeing it. And that's why if I go back so the yes, we are seeing that investment in the semi sector.
Bob Pragada: Again, Jerry, yes and yes. We are seeing it. That's why, you know, if I go back, yes, we are seeing that investment in the semi, the semi sector. Yes, we do see that cycle transcending well into 2027. I think what's important is what's driving it, and it goes back to, you know, the earlier comments around the AI infrastructure, right? Where we're positioned right now on high bandwidth memory manufacturing facilities is putting us on the front end of what we're seeing then translate into the utility sector and then eventually into the racks, so into the compute load in the data centers.
Speaker #2: And yes, we do see that cycle transcending well into '27. I think what's important is what's driving it, and it goes back to the earlier comments around the AI infrastructure.
Speaker #2: Right? And so where we're positioned right now on high bandwidth memory manufacturing facilities is putting us on the front end of what we're seeing then translate into the utility sector and then eventually into the racks.
Speaker #2: So into the compute load in the data centers. And to see it across that ecosystem is what's quite frankly driving our business right now.
Bob Pragada: To see it across that ecosystem is what's quite frankly, is driving our business right now. Those relationships that we've had with high bandwidth memory manufacturers as well as ASIC and other logic providers is coming true.
Bob Pragada: To see it across that ecosystem is what's quite frankly, is driving our business right now. Those relationships that we've had with high bandwidth memory manufacturers as well as ASIC and other logic providers is coming true.
Speaker #2: And so those relationships that we've had with high bandwidth memory manufacturers as well as ASICs and other logic providers is coming true.
Speaker #6: Okay. Thank you.
Jerry Revich: Thank you.
Jerry Revich: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Whitman with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Wittmann with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Wittmann with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Oh, great. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about the longer-term margin outlook that you guys talked about, the 75 basis points a year.
Andrew Wittmann: Great. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about the longer term margin outlook that you guys talked about, the 75 basis points a year. You know, you guys have talked ad nauseam about the various areas, commercial models. I think you've been through it a million times. I was just wondering if those out year drivers are any different from the ones that you've been realizing here over these last two very strong years. Also, if the benefits that you expect in those out years are going to come just from like basic blocking and tackling, or do you have to launch some new initiative to achieve those things? Like in other words, is that gonna cost you cash to implement some changes to achieve that? Thank you.
Andrew Wittmann: Great. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about the longer term margin outlook that you guys talked about, the 75 basis points a year. You know, you guys have talked ad nauseam about the various areas, commercial models. I think you've been through it a million times. I was just wondering if those out year drivers are any different from the ones that you've been realizing here over these last two very strong years. Also, if the benefits that you expect in those out years are going to come just from like basic blocking and tackling, or do you have to launch some new initiative to achieve those things? Like in other words, is that gonna cost you cash to implement some changes to achieve that? Thank you.
Speaker #2: So you guys have talked ad nauseam about the various areas, commercial models. I think you've been through it a million times. I was just wondering if those out-year drivers are any different from the ones that you've been realizing here over these last two very strong years.
Speaker #2: And also, if the benefits that you expect in those out-years are going to come just from basic blocking and tackling, or do you have to launch some new initiative to achieve those things?
Speaker #2: In other words, is that going to cost you cash to make to implement some changes to achieve that? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Yeah, Andy. Thanks for the question. So I'd say our margin trajectory as we highlighted before, a couple of hundred basis points in the first couple of years.
Bob Pragada: Yeah, Andy, thanks for the question. I'd say, you know, our margin trajectory as we highlighted before in a couple of hundred basis points in the first couple of years, and then as you pointed out, 10 basis points per year going forward. You know, this is a combination of several things that are well underway. You know, clearly you saw in the first year, I would have characterized it mostly driven by operating, you know, line benefits, driven by the, you know, the separation with the Critical Mission Solutions and Cyber & Intelligence business and right sizing our business. Everything thereafter has been driven by specific initiatives that have been identified with gross margin. The global delivery model that we talked about is actually, you know, increasing in pace and in scope and in scale.
Venk Nathamuni: Yeah, Andy, thanks for the question. I'd say, you know, our margin trajectory as we highlighted before in a couple of hundred basis points in the first couple of years, and then as you pointed out, 10 basis points per year going forward. You know, this is a combination of several things that are well underway. You know, clearly you saw in the first year, I would have characterized it mostly driven by operating, you know, line benefits, driven by the, you know, the separation with the Critical Mission Solutions and Cyber & Intelligence business and right sizing our business. Everything thereafter has been driven by specific initiatives that have been identified with gross margin. The global delivery model that we talked about is actually, you know, increasing in pace and in scope and in scale.
Speaker #6: And then as you pointed out, 10 basis points per year going forward. This is a combination of several things that are well underway. Clearly, you saw in the first year, I would have characterized it mostly driven by operating line benefits driven by the separation with the CMS and CNI business.
Speaker #6: And right-sizing our business. But everything thereafter has been driven by specific initiatives that have been identified with gross margin. The global delivery model that we talked about is actually increasing in pace and in scope.
Speaker #6: And in scale. And so it's a combination of those things. And additionally, as you look at the operating leverage, it's not just what we do from the standpoint of the business side of things, but also on the enterprise side—how we go about running enterprise functions in finance and legal and so forth.
Bob Pragada: It's a combination of those things. Additionally, you know, as you look at the operating leverage, it's not just what we do from the standpoint of, you know, the business side of things, but also on the enterprise side, how we go about, you know, running enterprise functions in finance and legal and so forth, deploying AI. That's what driving those margin expansion opportunities for us. Then to answer the previous question about, you know, what does it mean for the CapEx? Our investments, you know, we've maintained about a 1% of our revenues CapEx. What's happening is we are reallocating the capital traditionally would have been invested in, you know, SaaS software and so forth, and things that are now moving more to an AI basis.
Venk Nathamuni: It's a combination of those things. Additionally, you know, as you look at the operating leverage, it's not just what we do from the standpoint of, you know, the business side of things, but also on the enterprise side, how we go about, you know, running enterprise functions in finance and legal and so forth, deploying AI. That's what driving those margin expansion opportunities for us. Then to answer the previous question about, you know, what does it mean for the CapEx? Our investments, you know, we've maintained about a 1% of our revenues CapEx. What's happening is we are reallocating the capital traditionally would have been invested in, you know, SaaS software and so forth, and things that are now moving more to an AI basis.
Speaker #6: Deploying AI. And so that's what's driving those margin expansion opportunities for us. And then to answer the previous question about what does it mean for the CapEx?
Speaker #6: So our investments, we've maintained about a 1% of our revenue is CapEx. And what's happening is we are reallocating the capital traditionally would have invested in SaaS software and so forth and things that are now moving more to an AI basis.
Speaker #6: And that's what's giving us the ability to continue to make those productivity improvements without having to raise our CapEx numbers.
Bob Pragada: That's what giving us the ability to continue to make those productivity improvements without having to raise our CapEx numbers.
Venk Nathamuni: That's what giving us the ability to continue to make those productivity improvements without having to raise our CapEx numbers.
Speaker #2: Got it. Thanks for that. Just for my follow-up question, you guys alluded in your prepared remarks to the unusually high level of transaction cost.
Andrew Wittmann: Got it. Thanks for that. Just for my follow-up question, you guys alluded in your prepared remarks to the unusually high level of transaction costs, and I'm guessing because some of the consideration that you paid PA for was operating or was required to be recognized as operating expense rather than capital expense, that that's probably most of it for the quarter bank. I just wanted you to kinda just drill in that. Was there anything else in there? Because you mentioned that there was gonna be a fiscal Q3 cash outflow in addition to the substantial cash outflow that was recognized this quarter, does that mean that the exclusions next quarter might be relatively high as well?
Andrew Wittmann: Got it. Thanks for that. Just for my follow-up question, you guys alluded in your prepared remarks to the unusually high level of transaction costs, and I'm guessing because some of the consideration that you paid PA for was operating or was required to be recognized as operating expense rather than capital expense, that that's probably most of it for the quarter bank. I just wanted you to kind of just drill in that. Was there anything else in there? Because you mentioned that there was gonna be a fiscal Q3 cash outflow in addition to the substantial cash outflow that was recognized this quarter, does that mean that the exclusions next quarter might be relatively high as well?
Speaker #2: And I'm guessing because some of the consideration that you paid PA for was operating, it was required to be recognized as operating expense rather than capital expense.
Speaker #2: That's probably most of it for the quarter bank. So I just wanted to kind of just drill in that. Was there anything else in there?
Speaker #2: And because you mentioned that there was going to be a fiscal third quarter cash outflow in addition to the substantial cash outflow that was recognized this quarter, does that mean that the exclusions next quarter might be relatively high as well?
Speaker #2: I know you had a comment that it was mostly contained in the second quarter, but I'm just trying to get a sense of what the balance of the year looks like.
Andrew Wittmann: I know you had a comment that it was mostly contained to Q2, but I am just trying to get a sense of what the balance of the year looks like, and then that Nirvana state, hopefully in Q4, where these kinds of exclusions won't be as apparent.
Andrew Wittmann: I know you had a comment that it was mostly contained to Q2, but I am just trying to get a sense of what the balance of the year looks like, and then that Nirvana state, hopefully in Q4, where these kinds of exclusions won't be as apparent.
Speaker #2: And then that Nirvana state hopefully in 4Q where these kinds of exclusions won't be as apparent.
Venk Nathamuni: Andy, you're exactly right. So the accounting treatment is what necessitated to be part of cash flow from ops as opposed to cash flow from investing or finance. That's why you saw this that exclusion. Roughly $235 million of it was what we call compensation expense acceleration for the vesting of the shares. Then in Q3, we called out about $105 million of what's called employee benefit trust payments. We're done. Even with the Q3, that's already imputed in the P&L, it's only a cash flow item in Q3.
Venk Nathamuni: Andy, you're exactly right. So the accounting treatment is what necessitated to be part of cash flow from ops as opposed to cash flow from investing or finance. That's why you saw this that exclusion. Roughly $235 million of it was what we call compensation expense acceleration for the vesting of the shares. Then in Q3, we called out about $105 million of what's called employee benefit trust payments. We're done. Even with the Q3, that's already imputed in the P&L, it's only a cash flow item in Q3.
Speaker #6: Andy, you're exactly right. So the accounting treatment is what necessitated to be part of cash flow from ops as opposed to cash flow from investing or finance.
Speaker #6: And that's why you saw those exclusions. Roughly 235 million dollars of it was what we call compensation expense acceleration for the vesting of the shares.
Speaker #6: And then in Q3, we called out about 105 million dollars of what's called employee benefit trust payments. And then we're done. But even with the Q3, that's already imputed in the P&L.
Speaker #6: So it's only a free cash it's only a cash flow item in Q3. So you're exactly right. And then just one other point to note is that if you look at our last couple of years, we've been steadily decreasing our restructuring costs.
Venk Nathamuni: You're exactly. Just one other point to note is that, you know, if you look at our last couple of years, we've been steadily decreasing our restructuring costs, and we're on track to be substantially lower in fiscal 2026 compared to fiscal 2025.
Venk Nathamuni: You're exactly. Just one other point to note is that, you know, if you look at our last couple of years, we've been steadily decreasing our restructuring costs, and we're on track to be substantially lower in fiscal 2026 compared to fiscal 2025.
Speaker #6: And we're on track to be substantially lower in fiscal '26 compared to fiscal '25.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Okay. Great. Thanks for that.
Andrew Wittmann: Yeah. Okay. Great. Thanks for that.
Andrew Wittmann: Yeah. Okay. Great. Thanks for that.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Thanks.
Venk Nathamuni: Thank you.
Venk Nathamuni: Thank you.
Andrew Wittmann: Okay.
Andrew Wittmann: Okay.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Natalia Beck with Citi. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Natalia Bach with Citi. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Natalia Bach with Citi. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Natalia Bach: Hi, good evening. Congratulations on this quarter.
Natalia Bach: Hi, good evening. Congratulations on this quarter.
Speaker #7: Hi. Good evening. Congrats on the new quarter.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Bob Pragada: Thank you.
Bob Pragada: Thank you.
Natalia Bach: now that PA is 100% under Jacobs, can you frame for us any potential for sales synergies accelerating?
Speaker #7: So now that PA is 100% under J, can you frame for us any potential for sales synergies accelerating?
Natalia Bach: Now that PA is 100% under Jacobs, can you frame for us any potential for sales synergies accelerating?
Bob Pragada: Very high. Very high. You know, we had certain elements of it. It was mostly UK regulations around conflict of interest and whatnot as far as visibility into each other's sales pipeline. The way we expanded, the way I've always described it in the past with regards to joint opportunities and increasing the shaded area, the Venn diagram going to market, that's now gone. The pipeline has really increased on that front with regards to, you know, going now to market either as PA or as Jacobs, the joint opportunities are increasing.
Speaker #2: Very high. Very high. We had certain elements of it was mostly UK regulations around conflict of interest and whatnot as far as visibility into each other's sales pipelines.
Bob Pragada: Very high. Very high. You know, we had certain elements of it. It was mostly UK regulations around conflict of interest and whatnot as far as visibility into each other's sales pipeline. The way we expanded, the way I've always described it in the past with regards to joint opportunities and increasing the shaded area, the Venn diagram going to market, that's now gone. The pipeline has really increased on that front with regards to, you know, going now to market either as PA or as Jacobs, the joint opportunities are increasing.
Speaker #2: So the way we expanded the way I've always described it in the past with regards to joint opportunities and increasing the shaded area that Venn diagram going to market, that's now gone.
Speaker #2: And so the pipeline has really increased on that front with regards to going now to market either as PA or as Jacobs. But then the joint opportunities are increasing I would also say that and it was an earlier question that was asked.
Bob Pragada: I would also say that. It was an earlier question that was asked. The innovation and delivery across the entirety of the asset life cycle, you know, we did that in a collaborative form when we had the majority investment, made a lot of progress. You know, now that is also going to accelerate what's going to increase that operating payment. Where I would say, the main areas where that would be applied would be in the defense infrastructure and national security in Europe, as well as in the US transportation and energy and utility space, again, feeding the AI infrastructure.
Bob Pragada: I would also say that. It was an earlier question that was asked. The innovation and delivery across the entirety of the asset life cycle, you know, we did that in a collaborative form when we had the majority investment, made a lot of progress. You know, now that is also going to accelerate what's going to increase that operating payment. Where I would say, the main areas where that would be applied would be in the defense infrastructure and national security in Europe, as well as in the US transportation and energy and utility space, again, feeding the AI infrastructure.
Speaker #2: The innovation in delivery across the entirety of the asset lifecycle. We did that in a collaborative form when we had the majority investment, made a lot of progress.
Speaker #2: Now that is also going to accelerate what's going to increase that operating PAM. And where I would say the main areas where that would be applied would be in the defense infrastructure and national security in Europe, as well as in the US transportation.
Speaker #2: And energy and utility space. Again, feeding the AI infrastructure.
Speaker #7: Got it. Much appreciated. And then maybe just from a cost synergy side, any lowering through or cost opportunities in the near term?
Natalia Bach: Got it. Much appreciated. Then maybe just on the cost energy side, any low-hanging fruit, with cost opportunities in the near term?
Natalia Bach: Got it. Much appreciated. Then maybe just on the cost energy side, any low-hanging fruit, with cost opportunities in the near term?
Speaker #2: Yeah. So I'll take that, Natalia. So in terms of the cost synergies that we highlighted on the prepared remarks, so one is we said when we close the transaction a few weeks back, we had announced roughly 12 to 15 million pounds of synergies.
Venk Nathamuni: Yeah. I'll take that, Natalia. I know in terms of the cost synergies that we highlighted on the prepared remarks. One is, you know, we said, when we closed the transaction a few weeks back, we had announced roughly, you know, GBP 12 to 15 million of synergies. You know, we have now identified specific things in terms of opportunities from a cost perspective. These are specifically real estate, you know, good opportunity for us to combine the footprints there. Vendor rationalization in terms of how we go about procurement with the combined companies. Then on the IT side, a lot of opportunities for us to do system optimization as well.
Venk Nathamuni: Yeah. I'll take that, Natalia. I know in terms of the cost synergies that we highlighted on the prepared remarks. One is, you know, we said, when we closed the transaction a few weeks back, we had announced roughly, you know, GBP 12 to 15 million of synergies. You know, we have now identified specific things in terms of opportunities from a cost perspective. These are specifically real estate, you know, good opportunity for us to combine the footprints there. Vendor rationalization in terms of how we go about procurement with the combined companies. Then on the IT side, a lot of opportunities for us to do system optimization as well.
Speaker #2: We have now identified specific things in terms of opportunities from a cost perspective. These are specifically real estate. Good opportunity there. Vendor rationalization in terms of how we go about procurement with a combined companies.
Speaker #2: And then on the IT side, a lot of opportunities for us to do system optimization as well. So specific targets that we've identified which give us good visibility to getting to 20 million dollars plus of synergies.
Venk Nathamuni: Specific targets that we've identified, which give us, you know, good visibility to getting to $20 million plus of synergies, in fiscal 2027.
Venk Nathamuni: Specific targets that we've identified, which give us, you know, good visibility to getting to $20 million plus of synergies, in fiscal 2027.
Speaker #2: In fiscal '27.
Speaker #7: Awesome. Thanks.
Natalia Bach: Awesome. Thanks.
Natalia Bach: Awesome. Thanks.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Bob Pragada: Thank you.
Bob Pragada: Thank you.
Speaker #3: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Bert.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Bert.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Bert.
Bert Subin: Yeah. Thank you, Kara. I know we got cut off in the beginning. We lost about 1 minute of time for some audio challenges. I just wanted to make the mention that I refer you to slide 2 of the presentation for information about our forward-looking statements, non-GAAP financial measures, and operating metrics. I apologize for the technical difficulties. I'll now pass it over to Bob for some closing remarks.
Bert Subin: Yeah. Thank you, Kara. I know we got cut off in the beginning. We lost about 1 minute of time for some audio challenges. I just wanted to make the mention that I refer you to slide 2 of the presentation for information about our forward-looking statements, non-GAAP financial measures, and operating metrics. I apologize for the technical difficulties. I'll now pass it over to Bob for some closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Thank you, Kara. I know we got cut off in the beginning. We lost about a minute of time. Some audio challenges. So I just wanted to make the mention that I refer you to slide two of the presentation for information about our forward-looking statements non-gap financial measures and operating metrics apologize for the technical difficulties.
Speaker #2: I'll now pass it over to Bob for some closing remarks.
Speaker #6: Thanks, Bert. And thank you, everyone, for joining our earnings call. We really look forward to engaging with many of you over the coming days and weeks.
Bob Pragada: Thanks, Bert, and thank you everyone for joining our earnings call. We really look forward to engaging with many of you over the coming days and weeks. Thank you, and have a good evening, good day, and good morning, depending on where you're coming from. Thanks, everyone.
Bob Pragada: Thanks, Bert, and thank you everyone for joining our earnings call. We really look forward to engaging with many of you over the coming days and weeks. Thank you, and have a good evening, good day, and good morning, depending on where you're coming from. Thanks, everyone.
Speaker #6: And thank you, and have a good evening, good day, and good morning, depending on where you're coming from. Thanks, everyone.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
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