Q1 2026 SuRo Capital Corp Earnings Call

May 5, 2026

Operator 2: Welcome to the SuRo Capital's Q1 2026 earnings call. My name is Alan. I'll be your coordinator for today's event. Please note this call is being recorded, and for the duration, your lines will be on listen only. However, you'll have the opportunity to ask questions at the end. This can be done by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you require assistance at any time, please press star 0 and be connected to an operator. I will now hand you to your host, Evan Schlossman, to begin today's conference. Thank you.

Operator: Welcome to the SuRo Capital's Q1 2026 Earnings Call. My name is Alan. I'll be your coordinator for today's event. Please note this call is being recorded, and for the duration, your lines will be on listen only. However, you'll have the opportunity to ask questions at the end. This can be done by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you require assistance at any time, please press star 0 and be connected to an operator. I will now hand you to your host, Evan Schlossman, to begin today's conference. Thank you.

Speaker #2: However, you'll have the opportunity to ask questions at the end. This can be done by pressing *1 on your telephone keypad. If you require assistance at any time, please press *0 and be connected to an operator.

Speaker #2: I will now hand you over to your host, Evan Schlossman, to begin today's conference. Thank you. Thank you for joining us on today's call.

Evan Schlossman: Thank you for joining us on today's call. I am joined by the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at SuRo Capital, Mark Klein, and Chief Financial Officer, Allison Green. Please note that a slide presentation corresponding to today's prepared remarks by management is available at our website at www.surocap.com under Investor Relations, Events and Presentations. Today's call is being recorded and broadcast live on our website, www.surocap.com. Replay information is included in our press release issued today. This call is the property of SuRo Capital, and the unauthorized reproduction of this call in any form is strictly prohibited. I would also like to call your attention to customary disclosures in today's earnings press release regarding forward-looking information. Statements made in today's conference call and webcast may constitute forward-looking statements which relate to future events or our future performance or financial condition.

Speaker #2: I am joined by the chairman and chief executive officer at SURO CAPITAL, Mark Klein, and chief financial officer, Allison Green. Please note that a slide presentation corresponding to today's prepared remarks by management is available at our website at www.surocap.com/investorrelationseventsandpresentations.

Speaker #2: Today's call is being recorded and broadcast live on our website, www.surocap.com. Replay information is included in our press release issued today. This call is the property of SURO CAPITAL, and the unauthorized reproduction of this call in any form is strictly prohibited.

Evan Schlossman: This call is the property of SuRo Capital, and the unauthorized reproduction of this call in any form is strictly prohibited. I would also like to call your attention to customary disclosures in today's earnings press release regarding forward-looking information. Statements made in today's conference call and webcast may constitute forward-looking statements which relate to future events or our future performance or financial condition.

Speaker #2: I would also like to call your attention to customary disclosures in today's earnings press release regarding forward-looking information. Statements made in today's conference call and webcast may constitute forward-looking statements which relate to future events.

Speaker #2: Or our future performance or financial condition. These statements are not guarantees of our future performance, or future financial condition, or results, and involve a number of risk estimates and uncertainties, including the impact of any market volatility that may be detrimental to our business, our portfolio companies, our industry, and the global economy that could cause actual results to differ materially from the plans and tensions and expectations reflected in or suggested by the forward-looking statements.

Evan Schlossman: These statements are not guarantees of our future performance or future financial condition or results and involve a number of risks, estimates, and uncertainties, including the impact of any market volatility that may be detrimental to our business, our portfolio companies, our industry, and the global economy that could cause actual results to differ materially from the plans, intentions, and expectations reflected in or suggested by the forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including, but not limited to, those described from time to time in the company's filings with the SEC.

Evan Schlossman: Actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including, but not limited to, those described from time to time in the company's filings with the SEC.

Speaker #2: Actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including but not limited to those described from time to time in the company's filings with the SEC.

Speaker #2: With respect to the externalization, these risks and uncertainties include but are not limited to the ability to obtain the required stockholder approval, the ability to retain key personnel, the ability to realize anticipated benefits of the externalization, and the impact of the externalization on the company's business, financial condition, and results of operations.

Evan Schlossman: With respect to the externalization, these risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, the ability to obtain the required stockholder approval, the ability to retain key personnel, the ability to realize anticipated benefits of the externalization, and the impact of the externalization on the company's business, financial condition, and results of operations. Management does not undertake to update its forward-looking statements unless required to do so by law. To obtain copies of SuRo Capital's latest SEC filings, please visit our website at www.surocap.com or the SEC website at sec.gov. Now I would like to turn the call over to Mark Klein.

Evan Schlossman: Management does not undertake to update its forward-looking statements unless required to do so by law. To obtain copies of SuRo Capital's latest SEC filings, please visit our website at www.surocap.com or the SEC website at sec.gov. Now I would like to turn the call over to Mark Klein.

Speaker #2: Management does not undertake to update such forward-looking statements unless required to do so by law. To obtain copies of SURO CAPITAL's latest SEC filings, please visit our website at www.surocap.com, where the SEC website at sec.gov.

Speaker #2: Now, I would like to turn the call over to Mark Klein.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Evan. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. This is a defining moment for SURO CAPITAL. Our strong performance in 2025 carried directly into the first quarter of 2026.

Mark Klein: Thank you, Evan. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. This is a defining moment for SuRo Capital. Our strong performance in 2025 carried directly into the Q1 of 2026. For the quarter, our net asset value increased from $8.09 per share to $14.24 per share. That is a $6.15 per share increase, or approximately 76% quarter-over-quarter. This is the largest quarter-over-quarter NAV increase in our history. This increase reflects the strength of our portfolio and the quality of the companies we have invested in. It also reinforces the strategy we have followed for more than a decade, giving public market investors access to high-growth, venture-backed private companies that are otherwise difficult to access.

Speaker #3: For the quarter, our net asset value increased from $8.09 per share to $14.24 per share. That is a $6.15 per share increase or approximately 76% quarter over quarter.

Speaker #3: This is the largest quarter over quarter NAV increase in our history. This increase reflects the strength of our portfolio and the quality of the companies we have invested in.

Mark Klein: This is the largest quarter-over-quarter NAV increase in our history. This increase reflects the strength of our portfolio and the quality of the companies we have invested in. It also reinforces the strategy we have followed for more than a decade, giving public market investors access to high-growth, venture-backed private companies that are otherwise difficult to access.

Speaker #3: It also reinforces the strategy we have followed for more than a decade, giving public market investors access to high growth, venture-backed, private companies that are otherwise difficult to access.

Speaker #3: We believe this access is especially valuable when it is paired with selectivity. Identifying important private companies before their strategic is broadly reflected in public market awareness.

Mark Klein: We believe this access is especially valuable when it is paired with selectivity. Identifying important private companies before they're strategic is broadly reflected in public market awareness. At the same time, NAV is a point in time measurement. It does not by itself capture the full opportunity we believe remains ahead. The larger story is what is in front of us as our portfolio companies continue to mature, raise capital, scale their businesses, and move toward potential liquidity events. Several recent financing illustrate the larger story. WHOOP recently announced a $575 million Series G financing at a $10.1 billion valuation. The company reported that 2.5 million members globally, 103% year-over-year bookings growth in 2025, a $1.1 billion exit run rate, and positive operating cash flow in 2025.

Speaker #3: At the same time, NAV is a point-in-time measurement. It does not by itself capture the full opportunity we believe remains ahead. The larger story is what is in front of us as our portfolio companies continue to mature, raise capital, scale their businesses, and move toward potential liquidity events.

Mark Klein: The larger story is what is in front of us as our portfolio companies continue to mature, raise capital, scale their businesses, and move toward potential liquidity events. Several recent financing illustrate the larger story. WHOOP recently announced a $575 million Series G financing at a $10.1 billion valuation. The company reported that 2.5 million members globally, 103% year-over-year bookings growth in 2025, a $1.1 billion exit run rate, and positive operating cash flow in 2025.

Speaker #3: Several recent financing illustrate the larger story. WHOOP recently announced a $575 million Series G financing at a 10.1 billion valuation. The company reported that 2.5 million members globally 103% year over year bookings growth in 2025, a 1.1 billion exit run rate, and positive operating cash flow in 2025.

Speaker #3: For us, WHOOP sits within a broader shift toward health, longevity, and actionable self-knowledge. As the category evolves, we believe WHOOP can benefit from AI's ability to convert personal data into more useful individualized guidance for users.

Mark Klein: For us, WHOOP sits within a broader shift toward health, longevity, and actionable self-knowledge. As the category evolves, we believe WHOOP can benefit from AI's ability to convert personal data into more useful, individualized guidance for users. OpenAI closed its latest financing round with $122 billion in committed capital at an $852 billion post-money valuation. This financing speaks to the scale of capital formation around artificial intelligence. AI is no longer a narrow software category. It is becoming a foundational technology layer across compute, data centers, enterprise software, developer tools, healthcare, education, and productivity. VAST Data was valued at $30 billion in its recent Series F financing, more than tripling its prior $9.1 billion valuation from 2023.

Speaker #3: OpenAI closed its latest financing round with $122 billion in committed capital at an $852 billion post-money valuation. This financing speaks to the scale of capital formation around artificial intelligence.

Mark Klein: This financing speaks to the scale of capital formation around artificial intelligence. AI is no longer a narrow software category. It is becoming a foundational technology layer across compute, data centers, enterprise software, developer tools, healthcare, education, and productivity. VAST Data was valued at $30 billion in its recent Series F financing, more than tripling its prior $9.1 billion valuation from 2023.

Speaker #3: AI is no longer a narrow software category. It is becoming a foundational technology layer across compute, data centers, enterprise software, developer tools, healthcare, education, and productivity.

Speaker #3: Fast data was valued at $30 billion in its recent Series F financing, more than tripling its prior $9.1 billion valuation from 2023. The round included approximately $1 billion of primary and secondary capital and reflects continued demand for infrastructure supporting artificial intelligence, including data centers and high-performance computing.

Mark Klein: The round included approximately $1 billion of primary and secondary capital and reflects continued demand for infrastructure supporting artificial intelligence, including data centers and high-performance computing. Canva wants an employee stock sale at a reported $42 billion valuation led by existing shareholder Fidelity, with J.P. Morgan Asset Management joining as a new investor. The transaction came as Canva continued investing in AI tools for its more than 265 million monthly active users. Taken together, these are not isolated events. They tell a consistent story. Private market capital is concentrating around scaled private companies with durable growth, strategic relevance, and credible paths to liquidity. These financings are significant not only for their scale, but for what they signal. Private market capital continues to validate the companies and infrastructure layers that we believe are becoming increasingly important to the next phase of technology.

Speaker #3: Canva, once an employee stock sale at a reported $42 billion valuation, led by existing shareholder Fidelity, with JPMorgan Asset Management joining as a new investor.

Speaker #3: The transaction came as Canva continued investing in AI tools for its more than 265 million monthly active users. Taken together, these are not isolated events.

Speaker #3: They tell a consistent story. Private market capital is concentrating around scaled private companies with durable growth, strategic relevance, and credible paths to liquidity. These financings are significant not only for their scale but for what they signal.

Mark Klein: They tell a consistent story. Private market capital is concentrating around scaled private companies with durable growth, strategic relevance, and credible paths to liquidity. These financings are significant not only for their scale, but for what they signal. Private market capital continues to validate the companies and infrastructure layers that we believe are becoming increasingly important to the next phase of technology.

Speaker #3: Private market capital continues to validate the company's and infrastructure layers that we believe are becoming increasingly important to the next phase of technology. Our objective is to build exposure to those opportunities with discipline, before they are broadly available.

Mark Klein: Our objective is to build exposure to those opportunities with discipline before they are broadly available. We are not simply observing this market, we continue to participate in it. Recent hyperscaler results continue to reinforce the scale of demand behind AI infrastructure. The next phase of AI growth depends not only on models and applications, but also on the compute capacity, power, data center infrastructure, and specialized systems required to support them. During the quarter, we funded $5 million to a Magnetar special purpose vehicle invested in TensorWave. This investment was part of a commitment of up to $20 million. The remaining commitment of up to $15 million is subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions, including company-level operational milestones. TensorWave fits within our broader investment strategy and further expands our exposure to AI infrastructure.

Speaker #3: We are not simply observing this market. We continue to participate in it. Recent hyperscaler results continue to reinforce the scale of demand behind AI infrastructure.

Speaker #3: The next phase of AI growth depends not only on models and applications but also on the compute capacity, power, data center infrastructure, and specialized systems required to support them.

Speaker #3: During the quarter, we funded $5 million to a magnetar special purpose vehicle invested in TensorWave. This investment was part of a commitment of up to $20 million.

Mark Klein: During the quarter, we funded $5 million to a Magnetar special purpose vehicle invested in TensorWave. This investment was part of a commitment of up to $20 million. The remaining commitment of up to $15 million is subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions, including company-level operational milestones. TensorWave fits within our broader investment strategy and further expands our exposure to AI infrastructure.

Speaker #3: The remaining commitment of up to $15 million is subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions including company-level operational milestones. TensorWave fits within our broader investment strategy and further expands our exposure to AI infrastructure.

Speaker #3: We view it as the type of opportunity we seek to identify before it becomes more broadly familiar to the broad investor base. The company is positioned around a significant technology shift with meaningful room to scale in part of the market where demand for performance, capacity, and specialized infrastructure remains structurally important.

Mark Klein: We view it as the type of opportunity we seek to identify before it becomes more broadly familiar to the broad investor base. The company is positioned around a significant technology shift with meaningful room to scale in part of the market where demand for performance, capacity, and specialized infrastructure remains structurally important. That approach is consistent with the discipline we applied in building our exposure to CoreWeave, where we sought exposure to an important infrastructure company before its role in the AI ecosystem was more broadly recognized. We also believe the stage structure gave us a measured way to increase exposure to TensorWave within a framework tied to execution. More broadly, we intend to remain disciplined in how we deploy capital while being decisive when we see opportunities align with our strategy and with areas we believe long-term value is being created.

Mark Klein: That approach is consistent with the discipline we applied in building our exposure to CoreWeave, where we sought exposure to an important infrastructure company before its role in the AI ecosystem was more broadly recognized. We also believe the stage structure gave us a measured way to increase exposure to TensorWave within a framework tied to execution. More broadly, we intend to remain disciplined in how we deploy capital while being decisive when we see opportunities align with our strategy and with areas we believe long-term value is being created.

Speaker #3: That approach is consistent with the discipline we applied in building our exposure to CoreWeave, where we sought exposure to an important infrastructure company before its role in the AI ecosystem was more broadly recognized.

Speaker #3: We also believe the stage structure gave us a measured way to increase exposure to TensorWave within a framework tied to execution. More broadly, we intend to remain disciplined in how we deploy capital.

Speaker #3: While being decisive when we see opportunities align with our strategy and with areas we believe long-term value is being created. This participation continued after year-end.

Mark Klein: This participation continued after year-end. Following quarter's end, we made a new investment of approximately $10 million in ClickHouse, a company we believe is well-positioned at the intersection of data infrastructure, artificial intelligence, and real-time analytics. ClickHouse helps enterprises query, analyze, and act on massive volumes of data quickly and efficiently, a capability that is becoming increasingly important across observability, security analytics, product telemetry, cloud data warehousing, and AI-driven applications. This matters because as AI moves from experimentation to deployed enterprise use cases, the infrastructure required to store, analyze, and act on data at scale becomes increasingly critical. ClickHouse's relevance is already visible in demanding AI environments, including Anthropic, which ClickHouse has publicly described as using its technology to scale observability for all AI workloads. ClickHouse is another example of the kind of company we seek to invest in.

Speaker #3: Following quarter's end, we made a new investment of approximately $10 million in ClickHouse. A company we believe is well-positioned at the intersection of data infrastructure, artificial intelligence, and real-time analytics.

Speaker #3: ClickHouse helps enterprises query, analyze, and act on massive volumes of data quickly and efficiently, a capability that is becoming increasingly important across observability, security analytics, product telemetry, cloud data warehousing, and AI-driven applications.

Speaker #3: This matters because, as AI moves from experimentation to deployed enterprise use cases, the infrastructure required to store, analyze, and act on data at scale becomes increasingly critical.

Mark Klein: This matters because as AI moves from experimentation to deployed enterprise use cases, the infrastructure required to store, analyze, and act on data at scale becomes increasingly critical. ClickHouse's relevance is already visible in demanding AI environments, including Anthropic, which ClickHouse has publicly described as using its technology to scale observability for all AI workloads. ClickHouse is another example of the kind of company we seek to invest in.

Speaker #3: ClickHouse's relevance is already visible in demanding AI environments, including Anthropic, which ClickHouse has publicly described as using its technology to scare observability for all AI workloads.

Speaker #3: ClickHouse is another example of the kind of company we seek to invest in. It is already a scaled venture-backed technology leader but we believe its strategic relevance is becoming greater as real-time data infrastructure becomes more important to enterprise AI deployment.

Mark Klein: It is already a scaled venture-backed technology leader. We believe its strategic relevance is becoming greater as real-time data infrastructure becomes more important to enterprise AI deployment. For SuRo, the opportunity is to build exposure while companies like this remain private. Because this investment was made after the quarter's end, it is not part of our March 31 NAV. It is, however, an important example of how we intend to build the future portfolio. Now, I want to turn to what we believe is one of the most important strategic steps in SuRo Capital's history. Our board of directors approved a proposal to transition SuRo from an internally managed BDC to an externally managed structure through NeoStellar Advisors LLC, an advisor jointly owned by members of our current team and Magnetar. The proposal remains subject to stockholder approval.

Speaker #3: For SURO, the opportunity is to build exposure while companies like this remain private. Because this investment was made after the quarter's end, it is not part of our March 31 net asset value.

Speaker #3: It is, however, an important example of how we intend to build the future portfolio. Now, I want to turn to what we believe is one of the most important strategic steps in SURO Capital's history.

Mark Klein: Now, I want to turn to what we believe is one of the most important strategic steps in SuRo Capital's history. Our board of directors approved a proposal to transition SuRo from an internally managed BDC to an externally managed structure through NeoStellar Advisors LLC, an advisor jointly owned by members of our current team and Magnetar. The proposal remains subject to stockholder approval.

Speaker #3: Our board of directors approved a proposal to transition SURO from an internally managed BDC to an externally managed structure through Neostar Advisors LLC, an advisory jointly owned by members of our current team and magnetar.

Speaker #3: The proposal remains subject to stockholder approval. This is not a sale of the company. The company will continue to be a publicly traded BDC.

Mark Klein: This is not a sale of the company. The company will continue to be a publicly traded BDC, and our investment focus will remain centered on high-growth, venture-backed private companies. While the core strategy will remain the same, we believe the proposed structure will enhance the platform, supporting the strategy and better positioning us to pursue high-quality investment opportunities. Since 2019, our internally managed structure has served us well. Our team has built the portfolio, navigated volatile markets, returned significant capital to stockholders, and delivered meaningful value. The NAV increase this quarter is evidence of that work. At the same time, the market has evolved. Leading private companies have more choices today, and they increasingly look for investors who can bring more than capital, including scale, relationships, strategic support, capital markets experience, and a long-term partnership.

Speaker #3: And our investment focus will remain centered on high growth, venture-backed private companies. While the core strategy will remain the same, we believe the proposed structure will enhance the platform, supporting the strategy and better positioning us to pursue high-quality investment opportunities.

Speaker #3: Since 2019, our internally managed structure has served us well. Our team has built the portfolio, navigated volatile markets, returned significant capital to stockholders, and delivered meaningful value.

Mark Klein: Our team has built the portfolio, navigated volatile markets, returned significant capital to stockholders, and delivered meaningful value. The NAV increase this quarter is evidence of that work. At the same time, the market has evolved. Leading private companies have more choices today, and they increasingly look for investors who can bring more than capital, including scale, relationships, strategic support, capital markets experience, and a long-term partnership.

Speaker #3: The NAV increase this quarter is evidence of that work. At the same time, the market has evolved. Leading private companies have more choices today and they increasingly look for investors who can bring more than capital including scale, relationships, strategic support, capital markets experience, and a long-term partnership.

Speaker #3: We believe the proposed partnership with magnetar positions us to compete more effectively in this environment. Magnetar brings significant scale, with approximately $18 billion in asset under management, more than 20 years of investment experience, and a track record of investing in differentiated technology, venture-backed companies, across artificial intelligence and technology-enabled sectors.

Mark Klein: We believe the proposed partnership with Magnetar positions us to compete more effectively in this environment. Magnetar brings significant scale with approximately $18 billion in assets under management, more than 20 years of investment experience, and a track record of investing in differentiated technology, venture-backed companies across artificial intelligence and technology-enabled sectors. The strategic logic is straightforward. We are preserving the investment strategy and leadership continuity that brought us to this point, while adding Magnetar's broader scale, sourcing reach, diligence capabilities, portfolio support, and institutional infrastructure. In addition, Magnetar's experience across the AI infrastructure ecosystem gives us additional depth in one of our core focus areas and in a market we believe will be increasingly important to broader technology growth. As many of these businesses become more capital-intensive, Magnetar's experience with cost of capital, balance sheet management, and transaction structuring becomes even more relevant.

Mark Klein: The strategic logic is straightforward. We are preserving the investment strategy and leadership continuity that brought us to this point, while adding Magnetar's broader scale, sourcing reach, diligence capabilities, portfolio support, and institutional infrastructure.

Speaker #3: The strategic logic is straightforward. We are preserving the investment strategy and leadership continuity that brought us to this point, while adding magnetar's broader scale, sourcing reach, diligence capabilities, portfolio support, and institutional infrastructure.

Mark Klein: In addition, Magnetar's experience across the AI infrastructure ecosystem gives us additional depth in one of our core focus areas and in a market we believe will be increasingly important to broader technology growth. As many of these businesses become more capital-intensive, Magnetar's experience with cost of capital, balance sheet management, and transaction structuring becomes even more relevant.

Speaker #3: In addition, magnetar's experience across the AI infrastructure ecosystem gives us additional depth in one of our core focus areas, and in a market we will believe will be increasingly important to broader technology growth.

Speaker #3: As many of these businesses become more capital intensive, magnetar's experience with cost of capital, balance sheet management, and transaction structuring becomes even more relevant.

Speaker #3: We also expect the proposed structure to strengthen our origination and diligence capabilities, while creating a broader platform to support portfolio companies. Put simply, we believe this gives us greater scale, broader capital solutions, and deeper institutional capabilities, to support private companies as they grow.

Mark Klein: We also expect the proposed structure to strengthen our origination and diligence capabilities while creating a broader platform to support portfolio companies. Put simply, we believe this gives us greater scale, broader capital solutions, and deeper institutional capabilities to support private companies as they grow. If approved by stockholders, we believe this combination would position us to be one of the largest platforms focused on publicly traded access to venture-backed private companies. Public venture capital has historically been a fragmented market, and we believe greater scale, stronger infrastructure, and deeper sourcing capability can matter in competing for high-quality private company investments. This would be a significant change and positive for us in our competitive position. For stockholders and portfolio companies, we believe the benefit would be a broader platform, deeper resources, and a stronger ability to support ambitious private companies building in large markets.

Speaker #3: If approved by stockholders, we believe this combination would position us to be one of the largest platforms focused on publicly traded access to venture-backed companies.

Mark Klein: Public venture capital has historically been a fragmented market, and we believe greater scale, stronger infrastructure, and deeper sourcing capability can matter in competing for high-quality private company investments. This would be a significant change and positive for us in our competitive position. For stockholders and portfolio companies, we believe the benefit would be a broader platform, deeper resources, and a stronger ability to support ambitious private companies building in large markets.

Speaker #3: Public venture capital has historically been a fragmented market, and we believe greater scale, stronger infrastructure, and deeper sourcing capability can matter in competing for high-quality private company investments.

Speaker #3: This would be a significant change and positive for us in our competitive position. For stockholders and portfolio companies, we believe the benefit would be a broader platform, deeper resources, and a stronger ability to support ambitious private companies building in large markets.

Speaker #3: I want to speak directly about shareholder alignment. Being shareholder-friendly is not just a slogan for us; it is how we evaluate major decisions. The value created in the existing portfolio belongs to our shareholders.

Mark Klein: I want to speak directly about shareholder alignment. Being shareholder-friendly is not just a slogan for us. It is how we evaluate major decisions. The value created in the existing portfolio belongs to our shareholders. Under the proposed advisory agreement, pre-existing investments are not included in the incentive fee calculation. In plain English, the value already created in this portfolio is preserved for stockholders and is not subject to a new incentive fee simply because we are changing the management structure. We believe this is an important and stockholder-friendly feature. Additionally, subject to the conditions described in the proxy materials, an affiliate of Magnetar is also expected to invest $20 million in our company. We believe this is a meaningful signal of commitment and alignment. Magnetar and the board think like owners because we are owners.

Speaker #3: Under the proposed advisory agreement, pre-existing investments are not included in the incentive fee calculation. In plain English, the value already created in this portfolio is preserved for stockholders and is not subject to a new incentive fee simply because we are changing the management structure.

Speaker #3: We believe this is an important and stockholder-friendly feature. Additionally, subject to the conditions described in the proxy materials, an affiliate of magnetar is also expected to invest $20 million in our company.

Mark Klein: We believe this is an important and stockholder-friendly feature. Additionally, subject to the conditions described in the proxy materials, an affiliate of Magnetar is also expected to invest $20 million in our company. We believe this is a meaningful signal of commitment and alignment. Magnetar and the board think like owners because we are owners.

Speaker #3: We believe this is a meaningful signal of commitment and alignment. Magnetar and the board think like owners because we are owners. Our goal is not simply to report a hire NAV.

Mark Klein: Our goal is not simply to report a higher NAV. Our goal is to convert portfolio value into long-term stockholder value. This means disciplined investing, thoughtful liquidity management, expense discipline, transparency, and continued focus on returning value to our stockholders. Let me close with this. This is one of the most important moments in SuRo Capital's history. We delivered the largest quarter-over-quarter NAV increase we have ever reported. Our NAV increased approximately 76% quarter over quarter. This is not a routine result. It reflects the strength of our portfolio, the quality of companies we have backed, and the power of our strategy, giving public stockholders access to high-growth venture-backed companies aligned with important technology change trends. We do not view the quarter as the finish line but as the beginning of the new chapter. Our recent investment activity, including TensorWave and ClickHouse, reflects the same discipline.

Speaker #3: Our goal is to convert portfolio value into long-term stockholder value. This means disciplined investing, thoughtful liquidity management, expense discipline, transparency, and continued focus on returning value to our stockholders.

Speaker #3: Let me close with this. This is one of the most important moments in SURO CAPITAL's history. We delivered the largest quarter-over-quarter NAV increase we have ever reported.

Speaker #3: Our NAV increased approximately 76% quarter-over-quarter. This is not a routine result. It reflects the strength of our portfolio, the quality of companies we have backed, and the power of our strategy, giving public stockholders access to high-growth venture-backed companies aligned with important technology trends.

Mark Klein: This is not a routine result. It reflects the strength of our portfolio, the quality of companies we have backed, and the power of our strategy, giving public stockholders access to high-growth venture-backed companies aligned with important technology change trends. We do not view the quarter as the finish line but as the beginning of the new chapter. Our recent investment activity, including TensorWave and ClickHouse, reflects the same discipline.

Speaker #3: We do not view the quarter as the finish line, but as the beginning of a new chapter. Our recent investment activity, including TensorWave and ClickHouse, reflects the same discipline—identifying private companies where strategic relevance is emerging, building exposure selectively, and giving public stockholders access to opportunities that remain largely outside of the public markets.

Mark Klein: Identifying private companies where strategic relevance is emerging, building exposure selectively, and giving public stockholders access to opportunities that remain largely outside of the public markets. Our proposed partnership with Magnetar through NeoStellar Advisors is designed to provide SuRo Capital with greater scale, stronger infrastructure, broader sourcing reach, and deeper diligence capabilities as we seek to invest in and partner with the next generation of high-growth private companies. NAV captures the progress we have made. The opportunity is what comes next. Our focus now is straightforward: build on this momentum, maintain our discipline, and translate portfolio progress into lasting shareholder value. To our stockholders, thank you for your continued trust and support. With that, I will turn the call over to Alison Green to review our financial results.

Speaker #3: Our proposed partnership with magnetar through Neostellar Advisors is designed to provide SURO CAPITAL with greater scale, stronger infrastructure, broader sourcing reach, and deeper diligence capabilities as we seek to invest in and partner with the next generation of high-growth private companies.

Mark Klein: NAV captures the progress we have made. The opportunity is what comes next. Our focus now is straightforward: build on this momentum, maintain our discipline, and translate portfolio progress into lasting shareholder value. To our stockholders, thank you for your continued trust and support. With that, I will turn the call over to Alison Green to review our financial results.

Speaker #3: NAV captures the progress we have made, the opportunities what comes next. Our focus now is straightforward: build on this momentum and maintain our discipline, and translate portfolio progress into lasting shareholder value.

Speaker #3: To our stockholders, thank you for your continued trust and support. With that, I will turn the call over to Allison Green, to review our financial results.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Mark. I would like to follow Mark's update with a review of our investment activity and portfolio company realizations during the first quarter and subsequent to quarter end.

Allison Green: Thank you, Mark. I would like to follow Mark's update with a review of our investment activity and portfolio company realizations during Q1 and subsequent to quarter-end, a high-level review of our investment portfolio as of quarter-end, including the investment theme breakdown, and a more detailed review of our Q1 financial results, including our current liquidity as of 31 March. I'll also touch on notable items during Q1 and subsequent to quarter-end, including our announcement of the board-approved externalization. On 31 December, SuRo Capital committed up to $20 million to Magnetar Opportunity 2025-4 LP, a special purpose vehicle invested in TensorWave, Inc. During the quarter, on 2 January, SuRo Capital funded $5 million of the $20 million capital commitment.

Speaker #2: A high-level review of our investment portfolio as of quarter end, including the investment theme breakdown, and a more detailed review of our first quarter financial results including our current liquidity as of March 31st.

Allison Green: I'll also touch on notable items during Q1 and subsequent to quarter-end, including our announcement of the board-approved externalization. On 31 December, SuRo Capital committed up to $20 million to Magnetar Opportunity 2025-4 LP, a special purpose vehicle invested in TensorWave, Inc. During the quarter, on 2 January, SuRo Capital funded $5 million of the $20 million capital commitment.

Speaker #2: I'll also touch on notable items during the first quarter and subsequent to quarter end, including including our announcement of the board-approved externalization. On December 31st, SURO CAPITAL committed up to $20 million to magnetar opportunity 2025-4 LP, a special purpose vehicle invested in TensorWave, Inc. During the quarter, on January 2nd, SURO CAPITAL funded $5 million of the $20 million capital commitment.

Speaker #2: As of May 5th, $5 million of the $20 million capital commitment to magnetar opportunity 2025-4 LP had been funded. The remaining commitment of up to $15 million is subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions.

Allison Green: As of 5 May, $5 million of the $20 million capital commitment to Magnetar Opportunity 2025-4 LP had been funded. The remaining commitment of up to $15 million is subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions. Throughout Q1, we sold 440,246 common shares of GrabAGun Digital Holdings, Inc. Following the removal of lockup restrictions on 15 January. These sales resulted in net proceeds of approximately $1.4 million and a realized gain of approximately $891,000. As of 31 March, we hold 599,754 public common shares, or approximately 58% of our original position. Additionally, during the quarter, we received a distribution from our True Global Ventures 4 Plus venture capital fund investment for approximately $246,000.

Speaker #2: Throughout the first quarter, we sold 440,246 common shares of Gravagun Digital Holdings, Inc., following the removal of lockup restrictions on January 15th. These sales resulted in net proceeds of approximately $1.4 million and a realized gain of approximately $891,000.

Allison Green: These sales resulted in net proceeds of approximately $1.4 million and a realized gain of approximately $891,000. As of 31 March, we hold 599,754 public common shares, or approximately 58% of our original position. Additionally, during the quarter, we received a distribution from our True Global Ventures 4 Plus venture capital fund investment for approximately $246,000.

Speaker #2: As of March 31st, we hold $599,754 public common shares, or approximately 58% of our original position. Additionally, during the quarter, we received a distribution from our True Global Ventures 4+ venture capital fund investment for approximately $246,000.

Allison Green: Subsequent to quarter end, on 8 April, SuRo Capital completed a $225,000 investment in the common stock of Huntress Labs, Inc. Through a secondary transaction. Additionally, on 22 April, we completed a $9.5 million investment, excluding fees, in the Series A preferred shares of ClickHouse, Inc. Through a secondary transaction. Subsequent to quarter end, SuRo Capital received two distributions from CW Opportunity 2 LP, totaling approximately $3 million in net proceeds. CW Opportunity 2 LP is an SPV for which the Class A interest is solely invested in the Class A common shares of CoreWeave, Inc. SuRo Capital is invested in the Class A common shares of CoreWeave, Inc. Through its investment in the Class A interest of CW Opportunity 2 LP.

Speaker #2: Subsequent to quarter end, on April 8th, SuRo Capital completed a $225,000 investment in the common stock of Huntress Labs, Inc., through a secondary transaction.

Speaker #2: Additionally, on April 22nd, we completed a $9.5 million investment, excluding fees, in the Series A preferred shares of ClickHouse, Inc., through a secondary transaction.

Allison Green: Subsequent to quarter end, SuRo Capital received two distributions from CW Opportunity 2 LP, totaling approximately $3 million in net proceeds. CW Opportunity 2 LP is an SPV for which the Class A interest is solely invested in the Class A common shares of CoreWeave, Inc. SuRo Capital is invested in the Class A common shares of CoreWeave, Inc. Through its investment in the Class A interest of CW Opportunity 2 LP.

Speaker #2: Subsequent to quarter end, SURO CAPITAL received two distributions from CW Opportunity 2 LP totaling approximately $3 million in net proceeds. CW Opportunity 2 LP is an SPV for which the Class A interest is solely invested in the Class A common shares of CoreWeave, Inc. SURO CAPITAL has invested in the Class A common shares of CoreWeave, Inc., through its investment in the Class A interest of CW Opportunity 2 LP.

Allison Green: The distributions were categorized in aggregate as approximately $902,000 of return of capital at a $2.1 million realized gain. The realized gain is calculated based on the current reporting by the fund and confirmed through our accounting but may be subject to change or adjustment due to the impact of performance fees that may be charged by the fund. I would now like to turn to our portfolio as of quarter-end. Our top five positions as of 31 March were WHOOP, OpenAI, VAST Data, Blink Health, and CW Opportunity 2 LP. These positions accounted for approximately 72% of the investment portfolio at fair value. Additionally, as of 31 March, our top 10 positions accounted for approximately 88% of the investment portfolio.

Speaker #2: The distributions were categorized in aggregate as approximately $902,000 of return to capital, and a $2.1 million realized gain. The realized gain is calculated based on the current reporting by the fund and confirmed through our accounting, but may be subject to change or adjustment due to the impact of performance fees that may be charged by the fund.

Speaker #2: I would now like to turn to our portfolio as of quarter end. Our top five positions as of March 31st were WHOOP, OpenAI, VAST, Blink Health, and CW Opportunity 2 LP.

Allison Green: I would now like to turn to our portfolio as of quarter-end. Our top five positions as of 31 March were WHOOP, OpenAI, VAST Data, Blink Health, and CW Opportunity 2 LP. These positions accounted for approximately 72% of the investment portfolio at fair value. Additionally, as of 31 March, our top 10 positions accounted for approximately 88% of the investment portfolio.

Speaker #2: These positions accounted for approximately 72% of the investment portfolio at fair value. Additionally, as of March 31st, our top 10 positions accounted for approximately 88% of the investment portfolio.

Allison Green: Segmented by seven general investment themes, the top allocation of our investment portfolio at 31 March was to consumer goods and services, representing approximately 43% of the investmentations, software as a service were the next largest categories with approximately 29% and 12% of our portfolio respectively. Approximately 6% of our portfolio was invested in education technology companies, the financial technology and services segment accounted for approximately 5% of the fair value of our portfolio. The logistics and supply chain category accounted for approximately 4% of the fair value of our portfolio, SuRo Sports accounted for 2% as of 31 March. We ended Q1 2026 with a net asset value of approximately $361.6 million or $14.24 per share, which is consistent with our financial reporting.

Speaker #2: Segmented by seven general investment themes, the top allocation of our investment portfolio at March 31st was to consumer goods and services, representing approximately 43% of the investment allocation, and software as a service were the next largest categories with approximately 29% and 12% of our portfolio, respectively.

Allison Green: Approximately 6% of our portfolio was invested in education technology companies, the financial technology and services segment accounted for approximately 5% of the fair value of our portfolio. The logistics and supply chain category accounted for approximately 4% of the fair value of our portfolio, SuRo Sports accounted for 2% as of 31 March. We ended Q1 2026 with a net asset value of approximately $361.6 million or $14.24 per share, which is consistent with our financial reporting.

Speaker #2: Approximately 6% of our portfolio was invested in education technology companies, and the financial technology and services segment accounted for approximately 5% of the fair value of our portfolio.

Speaker #2: The logistics and supply chain category accounted for approximately 4% of the fair value of our portfolio, and SURO Sports accounted for 2% as of March 31st.

Speaker #2: We ended the first quarter of 2026 with a net asset value of approximately $361.6 million, or $14.24 per share, which is consistent with our financial reporting.

Speaker #2: The increase in NAV per share from $8.09 at the end of Q4 2025 was primarily driven by a $6.25 per share increase from the net change in unrealized appreciation of our investment, a $0.04 per share increase resulting from net realized gain on our portfolio investments during the quarter, and a $0.02 per share increase related to stock-based compensation.

Allison Green: The increase in NAV per share from $8.09 at the end of Q4 2025 was primarily driven by a $6.25 per share increase from the net change in unrealized appreciation of our investment, a $0.04 per share increase resulting from net realized gain on our portfolio investments during the quarter, and a $0.02 per share increase related to stock-based compensation. The increase in NAV per share was partially offset by a $0.16 per share decrease due to net investment loss during the quarter. At 31 March, there were 25,387,393 shares of the company's common stock outstanding.

Speaker #2: The increase in NAV per share was partially offset by a 16 cent per share decrease due to net investment loss during the quarter. At March 31st, there were 25,387,393 shares of the company's common stock outstanding.

Speaker #2: Finally, regarding our liquidity as of quarter end, we ended the quarter with approximately $46 million of liquid assets, including approximately $43.3 million in cash and approximately $2.7 million in unrestricted public securities.

Allison Green: Finally, regarding our liquidity as of quarter end, we ended the quarter with approximately $46 million of liquid assets, including approximately $43.3 million in cash and approximately $2.7 million in unrestricted public securities. Not included in our unrestricted public securities are approximately $15.9 million of public securities subject to lockup or other sales restrictions as of quarter end. This represents our remaining investment in CoreWeave via our Class A interest of CW Opportunity 2 LP.

Speaker #2: Not included in our unrestricted public securities are approximately $15.9 million of public securities subject to lockup or other sales restrictions as of quarter end.

Speaker #2: This represents our remaining investment in CoreWeave via our Class A interest of CW Opportunity 2 LP. Subsequent to quarter end, the purchaser of 6.5% convertible notes due 2029 elected to exercise their conversion option on multiple occasions, and convert a total of $5 million of principal, into $682,815 shares of SURO CAPITAL's common stock, and $19.56 in cash in lieu of fractional shares.

Allison Green: Subsequent to quarter end, the purchaser of 6.5% convertible notes due 2029 elected to exercise their conversion option on multiple occasions and convert a total of $5 million of principal into 682,815 shares of SuRo Capital's common stock and $19.56 in cash in lieu of fractional shares. Upon completion of these conversions, the remaining principal balance of the 6.5% convertible notes due 2029 was approximately $30 million.

Speaker #2: Upon completion of these conversions, the remaining principal balance of the 6.5% convertible notes due 2029 was approximately $30 million. As Mark mentioned, subsequent to quarter end, on April 2nd, SURO CAPITAL's board of directors, including all of its independent directors, unanimously approved a proposal to transition from an internally managed VDC to an externally managed structure through a new investment advisory agreement with Neostellar Advisors, LLC, an entity jointly owned by certain current SURO CAPITAL employees and Magnetar Holdings, LLC, which is affiliated with Magnetar's multi-strategy alternative investment platform.

Allison Green: As Mark mentioned, subsequent to quarter end, on 2 April, SuRo Capital's board of directors, including all of its independent directors, unanimously approved a proposal to transition from an internally managed BDC to an externally managed structure through a new investment advisory agreement with NeoStellar Advisors LLC, an entity jointly owned by certain current SuRo Capital employees and Magnetar Holdings LLC, which is affiliated with Magnetar's multi-strategy alternative investment platform. The externalization is expected to provide access to enhanced investment sourcing and due diligence capabilities through Magnetar's fully integrated platform, preserve all realized gains on the company's existing portfolio for the benefit of stockholders through the exclusion of pre-existing investments from any incentive fee calculations, and result in an annual expense savings.

Allison Green: The externalization is expected to provide access to enhanced investment sourcing and due diligence capabilities through Magnetar's fully integrated platform, preserve all realized gains on the company's existing portfolio for the benefit of stockholders through the exclusion of pre-existing investments from any incentive fee calculations, and result in an annual expense savings.

Speaker #2: The externalization is expected to provide access to enhanced investment sourcing and due diligence capabilities through Magnetar's fully integrated platform. Preserve all realized gains on the company's existing portfolio for the benefit of stockholders through the exclusion of pre-existing investments from any incentive fee calculations, and result in an annual expense savings.

Allison Green: In connection with the externalization, an affiliate of Magnetar will make a $20 million investment in the company, and the company's current management team, including Mark Klein and myself, will continue in our current capacities. The externalization is subject to stockholder approval, and additional details are set forth in the company's current report on Form 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on 7 April. That concludes my comments. We would like to thank you for your interest and support of SuRo Capital. Now I will turn the call over to the operator for the start of the Q&A session. Operator.

Speaker #2: In connection with the externalization, an affiliate of Magnetar will make a $20 million investment in the company, and the company's current management team, including Mark Klein and myself, will continue in our current capacities.

Allison Green: The externalization is subject to stockholder approval, and additional details are set forth in the company's current report on Form 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on 7 April. That concludes my comments. We would like to thank you for your interest and support of SuRo Capital. Now I will turn the call over to the operator for the start of the Q&A session. Operator.

Speaker #2: The externalization is subject to stockholder approval, and additional details are set forth in the company's current report on Form 8K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 7th.

Speaker #2: That concludes my comments. We would like to thank you for your interest and support of SURO CAPITAL. Now I will turn the call over to the operator for the start of the Q&A session.

Speaker #2: Operator?

Operator 2: Now Gleason Land. Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question or make a contribution on today's call, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star two. Please limit yourself to one question per person. You will be advised when to ask your question. We will take our first question from Alex Paris, Barrington Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Mark Klein: Now Gleason Land.

Speaker #1: No, Gleason Land.

Speaker #3: Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question or make a contribution on today's call, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star 2.

Operator: Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question or make a contribution on today's call, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star two. Please limit yourself to one question per person. You will be advised when to ask your question. We will take our first question from Alex Paris, Barrington Research. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Please limit yourself to one question per person. You will be advised when to ask your question. We will take our first question from Alex Paris, Barrington Research.

Speaker #3: Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Alexander Paris, Jr.: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the superb Q1 and the plan for externalization. That's gonna be my question, the externalization. As I recall, prior to 2019, the portfolio was externally managed. You took it in, and now you're externalizing it again. Point number one. Point number two, I had a quick review of the proxy, and I see not only are you creating a joint venture with Magnetar under the name NeoStellar Advisors LLC, but actually SuRo's name will be changed to Neostellar Capital Corp. under the symbol NSLR. I guess it's a two-part question. Number one, I think the shareholder meeting, the special shareholder meeting is scheduled for 10 June. When do you hope to close this transaction?

Alexander Paris: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the superb Q1 and the plan for externalization. That's gonna be my question, the externalization. As I recall, prior to 2019, the portfolio was externally managed. You took it in, and now you're externalizing it again. Point number one.

Speaker #1: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the superb Q1. And the plan for externalization. So that's going to be my question, the externalization.

Speaker #1: As I recall, prior to 2019, the portfolio was externally managed. You took it in, and now you're externalizing it again. So, point number one. Point number two, I had a quick review of the proxy, and I see not only are you creating a joint venture with Magnetar under the name Neostellar Advisors, LLC, but actually SURO's name will be changed to Neostellar Capital Corp.

Alexander Paris: Point number two, I had a quick review of the proxy, and I see not only are you creating a joint venture with Magnetar under the name NeoStellar Advisors LLC, but actually SuRo's name will be changed to Neostellar Capital Corp. under the symbol NSLR. I guess it's a two-part question. Number one, I think the shareholder meeting, the special shareholder meeting is scheduled for 10 June. When do you hope to close this transaction?

Speaker #1: under the symbol NSLR, I guess it's a two-part question. Number one, I think the shareholder meeting, the special shareholder meeting, is scheduled for June 10th.

Speaker #1: When do you hope to close this transaction? And then the related question is, both you and Allison, noted that this is expected to result in cost savings.

Alexander Paris, Jr.: The related question is, both you and Allison noted that this is expected to result in cost savings. I'm wondering if you could just provide a little additional color on how that's done. You're obviously gonna pay the external manager a management fee plus an incentive fee. What costs are we eliminating from the internal management of the fund?

Alexander Paris: The related question is, both you and Allison noted that this is expected to result in cost savings. I'm wondering if you could just provide a little additional color on how that's done. You're obviously gonna pay the external manager a management fee plus an incentive fee. What costs are we eliminating from the internal management of the fund?

Speaker #1: So I'm wondering if you could just provide a little additional color on how that's done? You're obviously going to pay the external manager or management fee plus an incentive fee.

Speaker #1: What costs are we eliminating from the internal management of the fund?

Mark Klein: Thanks, Alex. That's the longest one question ever. Appreciated. Let's start with we were externally managed. We made a determination to be internally managed as we took the group that managed the portfolio and brought it in-house. As I noted in my pair of remarks, I think a lot has changed in the public venture capital markets. We came to the conclusion that in order for us to be at the top of the pyramid of all of the largest asset management platform available to invest in public markets, having greater depth from both investment, sourcing, diligence, support, infrastructure, et cetera, to partner with a firm like Magnetar, which we have done an awful lot of investing with over the years, just simply made sense.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Alex. That's the longest one question ever. But appreciate it. So let's start with, we were externally managed. We made a determination to be internally managed as we took the management, the group that managed the portfolio and brought it in-house.

Speaker #4: As I noted in my pair of remarks, I think a lot has changed in the public venture capital markets. And we came to the conclusion that in order for us to be at the top of the pyramid of all, have the largest asset management platform available to invest in public markets, having greater depth from both investment, sourcing, diligence, support, infrastructure, etc., to partner with a firm like Magnetar, which we have done an awful lot of investing with over the years, just simply made sense.

Mark Klein: We came to the conclusion that in order for us to be at the top of the pyramid of all of the largest asset management platform available to invest in public markets, having greater depth from both investment, sourcing, diligence, support, infrastructure, et cetera, to partner with a firm like Magnetar, which we have done an awful lot of investing with over the years, just simply made sense.

Mark Klein: It makes us the largest platform to invest in-- as a public investor in venture-backed securities. I think that matters right now. I think size matters. I think scale matters. I think the ability to bring other aspects to portfolio companies as opposed to just writing a check matters. If you look at the success Magnetar has enjoyed, and the fact that we invested with them in CoreWeave, we're investing with them in TensorWave. They are really on top of the game in the venture space. As capital becomes more important and different capital solutions become more important to private companies, they are a great partner and significantly enhance what we are doing. Again, we're the first ones ever to do it, and we started 15 years ago, and we continue to pioneer as having a terrific partner.

Speaker #4: It makes us the largest platform to invest in as a public investor in venture-backed securities. I think that matters right now. I think size matters.

Speaker #4: I think scale matters. I think the ability to bring other aspects to portfolio companies as opposed to just writing a check matters. And if you look at the success Magnetar has enjoyed and the fact that we invested with them in CoreWeave, we're investing with them in TensorWave, they are really on top of the game in the venture space.

Mark Klein: They are really on top of the game in the venture space. As capital becomes more important and different capital solutions become more important to private companies, they are a great partner and significantly enhance what we are doing. Again, we're the first ones ever to do it, and we started 15 years ago, and we continue to pioneer as having a terrific partner.

Speaker #4: And as capital becomes more important, and different capital solutions become more important, to private companies, they are a great partner. And significantly enhance what we are doing.

Speaker #4: And again, we're the first ones ever to do it, and we started 15 years ago. And we continue to pioneer as having a terrific partner.

Mark Klein: As far as cost savings, it's in the proxy. This will be less expensive for our investors, certainly to start, in respect to expenses related to the management of the portfolio. As far as incentive fees, we made a point of saying that the entire portfolio and all the unrealized gains and all the success that has occurred to date and will occur and occurs up until the externalization, there's no incentive fee being charged on that at all. That is for all of our shareholders. In the future, as we invest money and we realize profits on those new investments. There may be an incentive fee on that at that point in time, which candidly will be quite some time away from now. We are really excited about this. This is really differentiated.

Speaker #4: As far as cost savings, it's in the proxy. This will be less expensive for our investors, certainly to start in respect to expenses related to the management of the portfolio.

Speaker #4: As far as incentive fees, we made a point of saying that the entire portfolio and all the unrealized gains and all the success that has occurred to date and will occur and occurs up until the externalization, there's no incentive fee being charged on that at all.

Speaker #4: That is for all of our shareholders in the future. As we invest money, and we realize profits on those new investments, there may be an incentive fee on that at that point in time, which candidly will be quite some time away from now.

Mark Klein: In the future, as we invest money and we realize profits on those new investments. There may be an incentive fee on that at that point in time, which candidly will be quite some time away from now. We are really excited about this. This is really differentiated.

Speaker #4: So we are really excited about this. This is really differentiated. This makes us as significant as we are now, much more significant and it was a decision our board took and we took as management and we're really excited about that.

Mark Klein: This makes us as significant as we are now, much more significant. It was a decision our board took and we took as management, and we're really excited about that. The vote is on June 10th. Upon approval by our shareholders, we will enter into a management agreement with NeoStellar. We will rebrand to NeoStellar, and that'll be effective on July 1st. Thank you.

Speaker #4: The vote is on June 10th. Upon approval by our shareholders, we'll enter into a management agreement with Neostellar. We will rebrand to Neostellar and that'll be effective on July 1st.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Operator 2: We will take our next question from Marvin Fong, BTIG. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We will take our next question from Marvin Fong, BTIG. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: We will take our next question from Marvin Fong, BTIG. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Marvin Fong: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Again, congratulations as well, and looking forward to, you know, the externalization. I just have a big picture question. After all of this success, we can all see that the private and public markets around AI are quite excited here. Can you just kinda talk about what you're seeing now in terms of investment opportunities? You know, ClickHouse is another hot company you were able to get in on. Are you seeing opportunities like you're doing with TensorWave to, you know, that are milestone-based and can, you know, offer some protection, you know, and that these companies actually have to succeed in order to, you know, gain access to further capital? Can we expect kinda more structures like that?

Speaker #1: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Again, congratulations as well. And looking forward to the externalization. I just have a big picture question after all of this success.

Speaker #1: We can all see that the private and public markets around AI are quite excited here. Can you just kind of talk about what you're seeing now in terms of investment opportunities? And ClickHouse is another hot company you were able to get in on.

Marvin Fong: You know, ClickHouse is another hot company you were able to get in on. Are you seeing opportunities like you're doing with TensorWave to, you know, that are milestone-based and can, you know, offer some protection, you know, and that these companies actually have to succeed in order to, you know, gain access to further capital? Can we expect kinda more structures like that?

Speaker #1: But can you are you seeing opportunities like you're doing with TensorWave to without a milestone base and some offer some protection and that these companies actually have to succeed in order to gain access to further capital?

Speaker #1: Can you expect kind of more structures like that or just kind of describe in general what you're seeing out there?

Marvin Fong: Just kinda describe in general what you're seeing out there.

Mark Klein: Thanks, Marvin. Great question. I'll answer it in two parts. First of all, we are really excited about ClickHouse. They, you know, ClickHouse has quickly become the de facto real-time analytics platform. They position themselves to benefit from AI applications which demand real-time data. This company is growing at 250% year-over-year. It is phenomenal. It provides their service at 10 times that of the rate, the speed as their competitors at approximately a tenth of the cost. It is truly an amazing company. I suspect most people on this call probably haven't heard about it. We view this as we're in front in the same way we were in front with Vast when no one heard of it or even CoreWeave when no one heard of it.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Marvin. Great question, and I'll answer in two parts. First of all, we are really excited about ClickHouse. ClickHouse has quickly become the de facto real-time analytics platform.

Speaker #4: They position themselves to benefit from AI applications, which demand real-time data. This company is growing at 250% year over year. It is phenomenal. It provides their service at 10 times that of the rate, the speed as their competitors, at approximately a tenth of the cost.

Mark Klein: It provides their service at 10 times that of the rate, the speed as their competitors at approximately a tenth of the cost. It is truly an amazing company. I suspect most people on this call probably haven't heard about it. We view this as we're in front in the same way we were in front with Vast when no one heard of it or even CoreWeave when no one heard of it.

Speaker #4: It is truly an amazing company. I suspect most people in this call have probably haven't heard about it. We view this as we're in front in the same way we were in front with VaaS when no one heard of it or even CoreWeave when no one heard of it.

Mark Klein: That's how we view ClickHouse. I suspect as we move towards the end of the year, they will become more notable. That's one. Two, I think, you and I have talked about it, I've talked about it publicly, the markets are robust or perhaps frothy in the AI space, specifically in the private market side. We see an awful lot. We are seeing more deals now than we've ever seen before. As we've talked about it, you have to start as are you in the right? Are the tailwinds still there? Are you in the right sector? Are you one of many in the space or one of a few? Do you have the right to win?

Speaker #4: That's how we view ClickHouse and I suspect as we move towards the end of the year, they will become more notable. That's one. Two, I think and you and I have talked about it and I've talked about it publicly.

Speaker #4: The markets are robust or perhaps frothy in the AI space specifically in the private market side. We see an awful lot. We are seeing more deals now than we've ever seen before.

Speaker #4: And as we've talked about it, you have to start as are you are you in the right are the tailwinds still there? Are you in the right sector, sub-sector?

Speaker #4: Are you are you one of many in a space or one of a few? Do you have the right to win? Once you get to all that, can you can we actually structure an investment, whether it's like TensorWave, which I think is extremely well structured, or can we simply price it in a way that there's an opportunity to invest and see returns?

Mark Klein: Once you get to all that, can we actually structure an investment, whether it's like TensorWave, which I think is extremely well structured, or can we simply price it in a way that there's an opportunity to invest and see returns? That leaves an awful lot of companies that candidly at this point in time are tough to invest in. We have found opportunities, whether it was ClickHouse and TensorWave. As we discussed before, we are really set up to win. They are to AMD what CoreWeave was to NVIDIA. As most of you probably see, AMD just reported a blowout quarter. TensorWave is going to be where they're housing their AMD chips. It's an extremely exciting investment. The investment is structured in a way that we put $5 million in.

Speaker #4: And that leaves an awful lot of companies that candidly at this point in time are tough to invest in. But we have found opportunities, whether it was ClickHouse and TensorWave, as we've discussed before, we are really set up to win.

Mark Klein: We have found opportunities, whether it was ClickHouse and TensorWave. As we discussed before, we are really set up to win. They are to AMD what CoreWeave was to NVIDIA. As most of you probably see, AMD just reported a blowout quarter. TensorWave is going to be where they're housing their AMD chips. It's an extremely exciting investment. The investment is structured in a way that we put $5 million in.

Speaker #4: They are to AMD, what CoreWeave was to Nvidia. As most of you probably see, AMD just reported a blowout quarter. TensorWave is going to be where their housing, their AMD chips.

Speaker #4: It's an extremely exciting investment. We the investment is structured in a way that we put $5 million in, $15 million will be following on, assuming certain conditions are met.

Mark Klein: $15 million will be following on, assuming certain conditions are met. We think that's gonna be an absolute raging success. We're really looking forward to TensorWave's future. Thank you.

Speaker #4: And we think that's going to be an absolute raging success. We're really looking forward to TensorWave's future. Thank you.

Operator 2: We will take our next question from Jon Hickman, Ladenburg. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We will take our next question from Jon Hickman, Ladenburg. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: We will take our next question from John Hickman, Leidenburg. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Jon Hickman: Hey, thanks for reporting early. I was able to get on. I have a question about, in the past, the top five positions have generally been around 50% of your portfolio.

Jon Hickman: Hey, thanks for reporting early. I was able to get on. I have a question about, in the past, the top five positions have generally been around 50% of your portfolio. And currently the top five

Speaker #5: Hey. Thanks for reporting early. I was able to get on. I have a question about in the past, the top five positions have generally around they've been around 50% of your portfolio.

Speaker #5: And currently, the top five.

Mark Klein: Jon, you still there?

Speaker #4: John, you still there?

Operator 2: Pardon for the interruption. We will take our next question from Brian McKenna, Citizens. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Pardon for the interruption. We will take our next question from Brian McKenna, Citizens. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Pardon for the interruption. Participant line disconnected. We will take our next question from Ryan McKenna, Citizens. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Yeah, hey guys, this is Nate Sauer on for Brian McKenna. So, first of all, congrats on the great moves this quarter, and especially impressive results so far this year.

Nate Sauer: Hey, guys. This is Nate Sauer on for Brian McKenna. First of all, congrats on the, you know, the great moves this Q and the especially impressive results so far this year. Maybe just extending the discussion on externalization real quick. I was wondering if you guys could provide a little or get a little bit more specific on the timing. Like, why is right now the id-

Speaker #6: Maybe just extending the discussion on externalization real quick. I was wondering if you guys could provide a little or get a little bit more specific on the timing, like why is right now the idea

Mark Klein: I think we lost him as well, operator.

Speaker #4: I think we lost him as well operator.

Operator 2: Pardon for the interruption. Yes, we lost Brian line. We'll take our next question from Alex Parmar, Lucid Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: Pardon for the interruption. Yes, we lost Brian line. We'll take our next question from Alex Parmar, Lucid Capital Markets. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Pardon for the interruption. Yes, we lost Brian line. We'll take our next question from Alex Furman, Lucid Capital Market. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Alex Parmar: All right. Thanks, guys. I'll try to ask it real quick here and sneak it in. Congratulations guys on the really strong start to the year. Wanted to ask about, you know, your portfolio composition here, in terms of your sector allocations. Obviously, your investment in WHOOP has been tremendously successful here. When you think about that as well as the wind down in your position in CoreWeave, you know, you're kind of at a unique moment here where health and wellness is actually a really large percentage of the portfolio right now. Should we expect to see incremental investments kind of back in that AI area to get that part of the portfolio back up?

Speaker #6: All right. Thanks, guys. I'll try to ask it real quick here and sneak it in. But congratulations, guys, on the really strong start to the year.

Speaker #6: Wanted to ask about your portfolio composition here. In terms of your sector allocations, obviously, your investment in Whoop has been tremendously successful here. When you think about that, as well as the wind down in your position in CoreWeave, you're kind of at a unique moment here where health and wellness is actually a really large percentage of the portfolio.

Alex Parmar: Obviously, your investment in WHOOP has been tremendously successful here. When you think about that as well as the wind down in your position in CoreWeave, you know, you're kind of at a unique moment here where health and wellness is actually a really large percentage of the portfolio right now. Should we expect to see incremental investments kind of back in that AI area to get that part of the portfolio back up?

Speaker #6: Right now, should we expect to see incremental investments kind of back in that AI area to get that part of the portfolio back up?

Alex Parmar: I guess, you know, you already did that subsequent to the quarter here with ClickHouse, but just any kind of high level thoughts on sort of the composition of your portfolio by sectors and what we should expect to see going forward?

Speaker #6: I guess you already did that subsequent to the quarter here. With ClickHouse, but just any kind of high-level thoughts on sort of the composition of your portfolio by sectors and what we should expect to see going forward?

Mark Klein: Sure. Thanks. Thanks, Alex. Yes, we're in some ways, I guess we're victims of our own success with WHOOP. As WHOOP just completed a $575 million funding in over a $10 billion valuation, it's obviously been sort of knocked it out of the park with that. That is a unique situation for us. It's a great situation, but unique. As you can see, we did just put $10 million into ClickHouse. We will be funding another $15 million into TensorWave. You will see the concentration more into the technology, AI infrastructure, et cetera, again, be the largest focus of our fund.

Speaker #4: Sure. Thanks. Thanks, Alex. Yes, in some ways, I guess we're victims of our own success with Whoop as Whoop just completed a $575 million funding in over a $10 billion valuation.

Speaker #4: It's obviously been sort of knocked it out of the park with that. That was that is a unique situation for us. It's a great situation, but unique.

Speaker #4: As you can see, we did just put $10 million into ClickHouse. We will be funding another $15 million into TensorWave. And the you will see the concentration more into the technology, AI, AI infrastructure, etc.

Speaker #4: Again, be the largest focus of our fund. But as you did note, right now, with the success of Whoop, that is caused a bit of concentration in that space.

Mark Klein: As you did note, right now with the success of WHOOP, that has caused a bit of concentration in that space. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Operator 2: There are no further questions on the line, so I will now hand you back to your host for closing remarks.

Operator: There are no further questions on the line, so I will now hand you back to your host for closing remarks.

Speaker #3: There are no further questions on the line, so I will now hand you back to your host for closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Thank you all for joining this call. We greatly appreciate it. Sorry for a couple of the problems, apparently, with the questions, but we're very excited here.

Mark Klein: Thank you all for joining this call. We greatly appreciate it. Sorry for a couple of the problems apparently with the questions, but we're very excited here. We had obviously the best quarter we've had on a quarter-over-quarter basis ever. We're extremely excited about our partnership with Magnetar and the rebranding to Neostellar. We're always available for your questions or comments. Feel free to reach out to us. Thank you again for attending the call. We greatly appreciate it.

Speaker #4: We had obviously the best quarter we've had on a quarter-over-quarter basis ever. We're extremely excited about our partnership with Magnetar and the rebranding to Neostellar.

Speaker #4: We're always available for your questions or comments. Feel free to reach out to us. And thank you again for attending the call. We greatly appreciate it.

Operator 2: Thank you for joining today's call. You may now disconnect.

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