Q1 2026 DRI Healthcare Trust Earnings Call

May 15, 2026

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Operator: DRI Healthcare does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements. Such statements speak only as of the date made. Today's presentation also references non-GAAP measures. The definitions of these measures and reconciliations to measures recognized under IFRS are included in our earnings news release, as well as in our MD&A for this quarter, both of which are available on our website and on SEDAR+. Unless otherwise specified, all dollar amounts discussed today are in US dollars. I want to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded today, Friday, 15 May 2026. DRI's quarterly results news release and the slides from today's call will be available on the investor page of the company's website at drihealthcare.com.

Speaker #2: Such statements speak only as of the date made. Today's presentation also references non-GAAP measures. The definitions of these measures and reconciliations to measures recognized under IFRS are included in our earnings news release.

Operator: Such statements speak only as of the date made. Today's presentation also references non-GAAP measures. The definitions of these measures and reconciliations to measures recognized under IFRS are included in our earnings news release, as well as in our MD&A for this quarter, both of which are available on our website and on SEDAR+. Unless otherwise specified, all dollar amounts discussed today are in US dollars. I want to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded today, Friday, 15 May 2026. DRI's quarterly results news release and the slides from today's call will be available on the investor page of the company's website at drihealthcare.com. I would now like to introduce Mr. Ali Hedayat, CEO of DRI Healthcare. Please go ahead, Mr. Hedayat.

Speaker #2: As well as in our MD&A for this quarter, both of which are available on our website and on Cedar Plus. Unless otherwise specified, all dollar amounts discussed today are in US dollars.

Speaker #2: I want to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded today, Friday, May 15, 2026. DRI's quarterly results news release and the slides from today's call will be available on the investor page of the company's website at drihealthcare.com.

Speaker #2: I would now like to introduce Mr. Holly Haddiat, CEO of DRI Healthcare. Please go ahead, Mr. Haddiat. Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone.

Operator: I would now like to introduce Mr. Ali Hedayat, CEO of DRI Healthcare. Please go ahead, Mr. Hedayat.

Ali Hedayat: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us today. Joining me on the call are Navin Jacob, our Chief Investment Officer, and Zaheed Mawani, our Chief Financial Officer. On the call today, I will provide a recap of our Q1 highlights. Navin will then discuss our portfolio assets and share insights into our market outlook, and Zaheed will cover off our key financial highlights for Q1 before moving on to Q&A. Turning to Q1, we continue to carry momentum post-internalization. The team is executing well and delivered another solid quarter. From a top-line perspective, we delivered double-digit royalty income growth of 18%, which contributed to our total income of $50.6 million, which was 15% year-over-year growth, a Q1 record.

Speaker #2: And thank you for taking the time to join us today. Joining me on the call are Naveen Jacob, our Chief Investment Officer, and Zahid Mawani, our Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker #2: On the call today, I will provide a recap of our first-quarter highlights. Naveen will then discuss our portfolio assets and share insights into our market outlook.

Speaker #2: And Zahid will cover off our key financial highlights for the first quarter, before moving on to Q&A. Turning to the first quarter, we continue to carry momentum post-internalization.

Speaker #2: The team is executing well, and delivered another solid quarter. From a top-line perspective, we delivered double-digit royalty income growth of 18%, which contributed to our total income of $50.6 million which was 15% year-over-year growth of first quarter record.

Speaker #2: The top-line performance is underpinned by our resilient portfolio, with several assets delivering double-digit royalty income growth, including Empaveli, Orsurdu, Zempazyme, and Zolair. Partially offsetting these strong comps was softer performance from Bonjo, RideApp, and Aratia.

Ali Hedayat: The top-line performance is underpinned by our resilient portfolio with several assets delivering double-digit royalty income growth, including EMPAVELI, ORSERDU, ZENPEP, and XOLAIR. Partially offsetting these strong comps was softer performance from VONJO, Rydapt, and Oracea. On the expense side, the effect of our internalization optimization work continues to generate strong operating leverage driven by synergy realization and disciplined expense management. All in, we delivered a Q1 adjusted EBITDA margin of 90%. Normalized for non-recurring costs, the adjusted EBITDA margin would have been 91%, which is a company record. As a reminder, we are reinvesting part of our synergies back into the business to fuel future growth, which is expected to lower our operating margins slightly from the current watermark beginning in Q2. On the operational side, I'd like to share some insights on recent news surrounding our Ekterly investment.

Speaker #2: On the expense side, the effect of our internalization optimization work continues to generate by synergy realization and disciplined expense management. All in, we delivered a first quarter adjusted EBITDA margin of 90%.

Speaker #2: Normalized for non-recurring cost, the adjusted EBITDA margin would have been 91%, which is a company record. As a reminder, we are reinvesting part of our synergies back into the business to fuel future growth, which is expected to lower our operating margins slightly from the current watermark beginning in Q2.

Speaker #2: On the operational side, I'd like to share some insights on recent news surrounding our externally investment. CalVista Pharmaceuticals' recently announced that it has entered into a definitive agreement under which it will be acquired by the Kiezi Group.

Ali Hedayat: KalVista Pharmaceuticals recently announced that it has entered into a definitive agreement under which it will be acquired by the Chiesi Group. Upon the closing of the deal, the transaction may constitute a change of control under our royalty agreement with KalVista. We continue to evaluate our rights and obligations under the purchase agreement. No determination has been made by either party regarding exercise of any put or buyback rights. That said, this transaction underscores the discipline of our underwriting process and our investment approach. It is a validation of the team's continued high-quality underwriting work and demonstrates another example where our view on an asset was proven out in this way.

Speaker #2: Upon the closing of the deal, the transaction may constitute a change of control under our royalty agreement with CalVista. We continue to evaluate our rights and obligations under the purchase agreement.

Speaker #2: No determination has been made by either party regarding exercise of any put or buyback rights. That said, this transaction underscores the discipline of our underwriting process and our investment approach.

Speaker #2: It is a validation of the team's continued high-quality underwriting work and demonstrates another example where our view on an asset was proven out in this way.

Speaker #2: We remain excited about what externally in the CalVista team will do in the HAE market, but also see ample opportunity to invest the capital into other high-return transactions in the event the change in control clauses are exercised.

Ali Hedayat: We remain excited about what Ekterly and the KalVista team will do in the HAE market, also see ample opportunity to invest the capital into other high-return transactions in the event the change in control clauses are exercised. DRI never buys an asset with a view to part ways with it, we have shown our ability to redeploy capital successfully in similar occasions and will do so again here should the occasion arise. In March, Viridian published top-line data from its phase III REVEAL-1 study of elegrobart. While the data from REVEAL-1 was statistically significant, the magnitude of the efficacy did not meet the threshold for DRI to pay certain milestone payments of $40 million to Viridian.

Speaker #2: DRI never buys an asset with a view to part ways with it, but we have shown our ability to redeploy capital successfully on similar occasions and will do so again here, should the occasion arise.

Speaker #2: In March, Veridian published top-line data from its phase three REVEAL-1 study of AllegroBart. While the data from REVEAL-1 was statistically significant, the magnitude of the efficacy did not meet the threshold for DRI to pay certain milestone payments of $40 million to Veridian.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, DRI acquired the Veridian royalty interest for an aggregate purchase price of up to $300 million, including a $55 million upfront payment and up to $245 million subject to the achievement of certain milestones.

Ali Hedayat: As a reminder, DRI acquired the Viridian royalty interest for an aggregate purchase price of up to $300 million, including a $55 million upfront payment and up to $245 million subject to the achievement of certain milestones. Our maximum potential future milestone obligation has now been reduced by $40 million to $205 million from that $245 million. It is important to note that our royalty rates remain unchanged and will be applicable to both veligrotug and elegrobart. We structured the royalty transaction in a manner which would de-risk the pre-approval investment, underscoring the importance of this milestone structure. Consequently, our deal returns are largely unaffected. Turning to our balance sheet and credit facility, we executed several initiatives to improve our flexibility and optionality for the business to increase unitholder value.

Speaker #2: Our maximum potential future milestone obligation has now been reduced by $40 million to $205 million from that $245 million. It is important to note that our royalty rates remain unchanged and will be applicable to both Veligratug and AllegroBart.

Speaker #2: We structured the royalty transaction in a manner which would de-risk the pre-approval investment, underscoring the importance of this milestone structure. Consequently, our deal returns are largely unaffected.

Speaker #2: Turning to our balance sheet and credit facility, we executed several initiatives to improve our flexibility and optionality for the business to increase unitholder value.

Speaker #2: During the quarter, we further reduced the number of preferred shares outstanding by partially redeeming and canceling $9.9 million of face value of our Series C preferred securities for $9.8 million, along with outstanding and accrued interest.

Ali Hedayat: During the quarter, we further reduced the number of preferred shares outstanding by partially redeeming and canceling $9.9 million of face value of our Series C preferred securities for $9.8 million, along with outstanding and accrued interest. Also, in March, the company completed 2 financing transactions that meaningfully strengthened our balance sheet to position the company for long-term success. We closed a $250 million private placement of senior notes in the US, comprised of 106 million aggregate principal amount of 5.35% senior secured notes due 24 March 2031, and $144 million aggregate principal amount of 5.65% senior secured notes due 24 March 2033. The senior notes carry a lower overall cost of debt and extend the debt maturity profile of the company.

Speaker #2: Also, in March, the company completed two financing transactions that meaningfully strengthened our balance sheet to position the company for long-term success. We closed a $250 million private placement of senior notes in the U.S., comprised of $106 million aggregate principal amount of 5.35% senior secured notes due March 24, 2031, and $144 million aggregate principal amount of 5.65% senior secured notes due March 24, 2033.

Speaker #2: The senior notes carry a lower overall cost of debt and extend the debt maturity profile of the company. The net proceeds were used to repay a portion of the acquisition and working capital credit facilities.

Ali Hedayat: The net proceeds were used to repay a portion of the acquisition and working capital credit facilities. Critically, this transaction also marks our inaugural entry into the US private placement market, diversifying access to debt capital and opening a new and very sizable source of long-term institutional financing. We also issued CAD 108.7 million of 5.75% unsecured subordinate debentures maturing February 2031. The purchase price for the debentures was exclusively satisfied through the exchange of $79.7 million of our existing 7.5% Series C preferred securities. The debentures offer a substantially lower interest rate relative to the preferred securities and provide meaningful repayment flexibility, preserving capital for deployment into new royalty opportunities.

Speaker #2: Critically, this transaction also marks our inaugural entry into the US private placement market, diversifying access to debt capital and opening a new—and very sizable—source of long-term institutional financing.

Ali Hedayat: Critically, this transaction also marks our inaugural entry into the US private placement market, diversifying access to debt capital and opening a new and very sizable source of long-term institutional financing. We also issued CAD 108.7 million of 5.75% unsecured subordinate debentures maturing February 2031. The purchase price for the debentures was exclusively satisfied through the exchange of $79.7 million of our existing 7.5% Series C preferred securities. The debentures offer a substantially lower interest rate relative to the preferred securities and provide meaningful repayment flexibility, preserving capital for deployment into new royalty opportunities.

Speaker #2: We also issued CA$108.7 million of 5.75% unsecured subordinate debentures maturing in February 2031. The purchase price for the debentures was exclusively satisfied through the exchange of US$79.7 million of our existing 7.5% Series C preferred securities.

Speaker #2: The debentures offer a substantially lower interest rate relative to the preferred securities and provide meaningful repayment flexibility, preserving capital for deployment into new royalty opportunities.

Speaker #2: We believe that the two financing initiatives will allow us to pursue a more balanced approach to capital deployment with a mix of high cash flowing assets that are highly financeable alongside pre-approval deals similar to the ones we recently completed which enhance both our returns and portfolio duration.

Ali Hedayat: We believe that the two financing initiatives will allow us to pursue a more balanced approach to capital deployment with a mix of high cash flowing assets that are highly financiable alongside pre-approval deals similar to the ones we recently completed, which enhance both our returns and portfolio duration. As the business has matured, we are in a better position to think through shaping our portfolio over the long term to meet a balanced objective of optimal levered returns and growth, and we have built the tools and the balance sheet to pursue this objective. I will now turn the call over to Navin Jacob, our Chief Investment Officer.

Speaker #2: As the business has matured, we are in a better position to think through shaping our portfolio over the long term to meet a balanced objective of optimal levered returns and growth, and we have built the tools and the balance sheet to pursue this objective.

Speaker #2: I will now turn the call over to Naveen Jacob, our Chief Investment Officer.

Ali Hedayat: I will now turn the call over to Navin Jacob, our Chief Investment Officer.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Ali. Touching first on our portfolio performance, Slide 7 shows the individual royalty receipts for the first quarter of 2026 compared to the same period in the previous year and quarter.

Navin Jacob: Thank you, Ali. Touching first on our portfolio performance, slide 7 shows the individual royalty receipts for Q1 2026 compared to the same period in the previous year and quarter. Our portfolio generated total cash receipts of roughly $58 million, a decrease of $3.6 million or 6% versus Q1 2025. The decrease was driven by several factors. First, a one-time roughly seventeen and a half million dollar payment to DRI in Q1 2025 for the removal of certain deductions previously incurred on the AS-AS32 transaction. Second, lower receipts from EYLEA and Aurinia due to market share factors driven by generics. These decreases were partially offset by a $5 million AS301 milestone payment received in Q1 2026, which was triggered by strong Q4 2025 sales, coupled with strong overall ASERTA royalty performance.

Speaker #3: Our portfolio generated total cash receipts of roughly $58 million, a decrease of $3.6 million, or 6%, versus Q1 2025. The decrease was driven by several factors.

Speaker #3: First, a one-time, roughly $17.5 million payment to DRI in Q1 2025 for the removal of certain deductions previously incurred on the asserted due transaction.

Speaker #3: And second, lower receipts from ILEA and Eurasia due to market share factors driven by generics. These decreases were partially offset by a $5 million asserted one-time milestone payment received in Q1 2026, which was triggered by strong Q4 2025 sales coupled with strong overall asserted royalty performance.

Navin Jacob: Second, lower receipts from EYLEA and Aurinia due to market share factors driven by generics. These decreases were partially offset by a $5 million AS301 milestone payment received in Q1 2026, which was triggered by strong Q4 2025 sales, coupled with strong overall ASERTA royalty performance. Also partially offsetting these declines was approximately $2 million in receipts earned from Ekterly, which as a reminder, had no receipts in Q1 of last year. Our first Ekterly receipts started in Q4 2025.

Speaker #3: Also, partially offsetting the declines was approximately $2 million in receipts earned from Actually, which, as a reminder, had no receipts in Q1 of last year.

Navin Jacob: Also partially offsetting these declines was approximately $2 million in receipts earned from Ekterly, which as a reminder, had no receipts in Q1 of last year. Our first Ekterly receipts started in Q4 2025. Turning to specific individual product performance. Let me start with OMIDRIA. Q1 2026 royalty receipts increased 9% from the previous year. We continue to monitor the asset, which has been impacted by the Merit-Based Incentive Payment System or MIPS in 2025, with slower than expected uptake in the hospital setting relative to our initial expectations. As we have outlined before, Rayner continues to take active steps to improve the performance. While these initiatives are all encouraging, we maintain our expectation of flat sales or no growth for OMIDRIA over the next few years.

Speaker #3: Our first Actually receipts started in Q4 2025. Turning to specific individual product performance, let me start with Omidria. Q1 2026 royalty receipts increased 9% from the previous year.

Navin Jacob: Turning to specific individual product performance. Let me start with OMIDRIA. Q1 2026 royalty receipts increased 9% from the previous year. We continue to monitor the asset, which has been impacted by the Merit-Based Incentive Payment System or MIPS in 2025, with slower than expected uptake in the hospital setting relative to our initial expectations. As we have outlined before, Rayner continues to take active steps to improve the performance. While these initiatives are all encouraging, we maintain our expectation of flat sales or no growth for OMIDRIA over the next few years.

Speaker #3: We continued to monitor the asset, which has been impacted by the Merit-based Incentive Payment System, or MIPS, in 2025, with slower-than-expected uptake in the hospital setting relative to our initial expectations.

Speaker #3: As we have outlined before, Raynor continues to take active steps to improve the performance. While these initiatives are all encouraging, we maintain our expectation of flat sales, or no growth, for Omidria over the next few years.

Speaker #3: We have received an update on Q1 2026 Omidria sales, which exhibited year-over-year growth of 10% versus Q1 2025. Q1 Omidria performance is in line with our previously discussed expectations.

Navin Jacob: We have received an update on Q1 2026 OMIDRIA sales, which exhibited year-over-year growth of 10% versus Q1 2025. Q1 OMIDRIA performance is in line with our previously discussed expectations. Turning to CASGEVY. As a reminder, we are paid in 2 ways for CASGEVY. One, an annual license fee of $5 million in Q1 of every year. Two, we may be eligible in the future for annual sales-based performance fees if annual sales are over $1 billion. Since launch, CASGEVY has seen over 500 patients initiate treatment, and Vertex recently secured a pricing agreement on CASGEVY for eligible patients in Germany. In addition, Vertex submitted a BLA to expand pediatric usage for 5 to 11-year-olds, which has been granted a Commissioner's National Priority Voucher. Vertex reported Q1 2026 sales of $43 million for CASGEVY.

Speaker #3: Turning to Kasgevi, as a reminder, we are paid in two ways for Kasgevi. One, an annual license fee of $5 million in the first quarter of every year.

Speaker #3: Two, we may be eligible in the future for annual sales-based performance fees if annual sales are over $1 billion. Since launch, Kasgevi has seen over 500 patients initiate treatment, and Vertex recently secured a pricing agreement on Kasgevi for eligible patients in Germany.

Speaker #3: In addition, Vertex submitted a BLA to expand pediatric usage for 5- to 11-year-olds, which has been granted a commissioner's national priority voucher. Vertex reported Q1 2026 sales of $43 million for Kasgevi.

Speaker #3: The trailing 12 months of actuals are roughly one to one and a half years ahead of our acquisition expectations. Looking now at Actually, we recorded cash receipts of $1.8 million in Q1 2026.

Navin Jacob: The trailing 12 months of actuals are roughly 1 to one and a half years ahead of our acquisition expectations. Looking now at Ekterly, we recorded cash receipts of $1.8 billion in Q1 2026. In the US, Ekterly has shown strong performance with KalVista's business receiving roughly 1,700 patient start forms as of 28 February 2026, up roughly 400 patient forms since December. This new total represents almost 20% of the US patient population, with the asset now tracking at least 1 year ahead of what we initially expected. Ekterly's early launch in Germany is also exhibiting similar characteristics to the US launch as adoption, utilization, and growth continue to build. In Japan, Ekterly is now the first and only oral on-demand therapy available. We congratulate our partners at KalVista on the recent announcement of their acquisition by Chiesi.

Speaker #3: In the US, Actually has shown strong performance with CalVista's business receiving roughly 1,700 patient start forms as of February 28, 2026, up roughly 400 patient forms since December.

Speaker #3: This new total represents almost 20% of the U.S. patient population, with the asset now tracking at least one year ahead of what we initially expected.

Speaker #3: Actually's early launch in Germany is also exhibiting similar characteristics to the US launch, as adoption, utilization, and growth continue to build. In Japan, Actually is now the first and only oral on-demand therapy available.

Speaker #3: We congratulate our partners at CalVista on the recent announcement of their acquisition by Kiese. Moving to Assertive, DRI recorded royalty receipts of $27 million in Q1 2026, a 14% year-over-year decrease versus Q1 2025, due to the aforementioned tough comparison in Q1 2025, during which DRI received a one-time payment.

Navin Jacob: Moving to Assertu, DRI recorded royalty receipts of $27 million in Q1 2026, a 14% year-over-year decrease versus Q1 2025 due to the aforementioned tough comparison in Q1 2025, during which DRI received a one-time payment. Recall Q1 2026 Assertu royalty receipts are made up of $22 million in royalty receipts and a milestone payment to DRI of $5 million. We reiterate our acquisition underwriting assumed 2025 is the peak year for Assertu due to competition from other oral SERDs and novel PI3K inhibitors. Interestingly though, Q1 2026 Assertu sales performance looks strong, and we anticipate receiving approximately $16 million in royalty receipts in Q2 2026. While Q1 2026 is down quarter-over-quarter versus Q4 2025, Q1 is seasonally the weakest quarter for Assertu, and the quarter-over-quarter trend is in line with historical quarters. As you know, Assertu has exceeded our expectations from launch to date.

Speaker #3: Recall Q1 2026 Assertive royalty receipts are made up of $22 million in royalty receipts and a milestone payment to DRI of $5 million. We reiterate our acquisition underwriting assumed 2025 is the peak year for Assertive due to competition from other oral surgeons and novel PI3K inhibitors.

Speaker #3: Interestingly, though, Q1 2026 Assertive sales performance looks strong. And we anticipate receiving approximately $16 million in royalty receipts in Q2 2026. While Q1 2026 is down quarter over 2025, Q1 is seasonally the weakest quarter for Assertive and the quarter over quarter trend is in line with historical quarters.

Speaker #3: As you know, Assertive has exceeded our expectations from launch to date. Intriguingly, we are monitoring various Assertive lifecycle management studies which, if positive, could represent substantial upside to our acquisition expectations.

Navin Jacob: Intriguingly, we are monitoring various ASERTA lifecycle management studies, which, if positive, could represent substantial upside to our acquisition expectations. Turning to Spinraza. In the Q1 2026, the cash receipts were down 8% year-over-year, mainly due to a one-time VAT refund occurring in Q1 2025. Biogen reported worldwide Spinraza sales of $374 million for Q1 2026, a decline of 12% year-over-year versus Q1 2025. Spinraza continues to be impacted by lower demand and unfavorable inventory dynamics both in the US and internationally. Demand is affected by competition from Roche's Evrysdi as it expands its global position, driven in part by the rollout of its oral tablet formulation. Spinraza's performance, however, is in line with our expectations, and Q1 2026 sales should translate to between $3 to 4 million of royalty receipts in Q2 2026 for DRI. Moving on to VONJO.

Speaker #3: Turning to Spinraza, in the first quarter of 2026, the cash receipts were down 8% year over year, mainly due to a one-time VAT refund occurring in Q1 2025.

Speaker #3: Biden reported worldwide Spinraza sales of $374 million for Q1 2026, a decline of 12% year over year versus Q1 2025. Spinraza continues to be impacted by lower demand and unfavorable inventory dynamics both in the US and internationally.

Speaker #3: Demand is affected by competition from Roche's Eversity as it expands its global position, driven in part by the rollout of its oral tablet formulation.

Speaker #3: Spinraza's performance, however, is in line with our expectations, and Q1 2026 sales should translate to between $3 million to $4 million of royalty receipts in Q2 2026 for DRI.

Speaker #3: Moving on to Vonjo, Q1 2026 cash receipts which reflect Q4 2025 sales were modestly lower by 2% versus the same period last year. Recall Q4 2025 sales were impacted by negative gross-to-net adjustments and desocking.

Navin Jacob: Moving on to VONJO. Q1 2026 cash receipts, which reflect Q4 2025 sales, were modestly lower by 2% versus the same period last year. Recall Q4 2025 sales were impacted by negative gross-to-net adjustments and destocking. Sobi recently commented that the confirmatory phase III study of VONJO, called PACIFICA, is fully enrolled. If successful, these data will be used for regulatory submissions of pacritinib VONJO in the EU. Clinical trials to investigate the potential for VONJO in other new indications are also underway. These new indications were not included in our original acquisition forecast. Sobi reported Q1 2026 sales of approximately $30 million, which should translate to royalty receipts of approximately $3.5 million in Q2 2026. Recall during Q3 2025, we lowered our expectations on VONJO, and the latest quarters estimates are in line with our reforecast of the asset.

Navin Jacob: Q1 2026 cash receipts, which reflect Q4 2025 sales, were modestly lower by 2% versus the same period last year. Recall Q4 2025 sales were impacted by negative gross-to-net adjustments and destocking. Sobi recently commented that the confirmatory phase III study of VONJO, called PACIFICA, is fully enrolled. If successful, these data will be used for regulatory submissions of pacritinib VONJO in the EU. Clinical trials to investigate the potential for VONJO in other new indications are also underway. These new indications were not included in our original acquisition forecast. Sobi reported Q1 2026 sales of approximately $30 million, which should translate to royalty receipts of approximately $3.5 million in Q2 2026. Recall during Q3 2025, we lowered our expectations on VONJO, and the latest quarters estimates are in line with our reforecast of the asset.

Speaker #3: Sobi recently commented that the confirmatory Phase 3 study of Vonjo called Pacifica is fully enrolled. If successful, these data will be used for regulatory submissions of procreative Vonjo in the EU and.

Speaker #3: Clinical trials to investigate the potential for Vonjo in other new indications are also underway. These new indications were not included in our originally acquisition forecast.

Speaker #3: Sobi reported Q1 2026 sales of approximately $30 million, which should translate to royalty receipts of approximately $3.5 million in Q2 2026. Recall, during Q3 2025, we lowered our expectations on Vonjo, and the latest quarter's estimates are in line with our reforecast of the asset.

Speaker #3: Turning to Slide 8, we provide the latest update on our Veridian assets. As Ali already discussed, Veridian announced positive top-line results from the RevealOne Phase 3 trial of Eligorobard in patients with active TED.

Navin Jacob: Turning to slide 8, we provide the latest update on our Viridian assets. As Ali already discussed, Viridian announced positive top-line results from the REVEAL-1 phase III trial of elegrobart in patients with active TED. While results were positive, they did not meet pre-specified thresholds required for DRI to pay 40 million of milestone payments tied to the phase III readout. In early May, Viridian also provided positive top-line results on REVEAL-2, which is a phase III study of elegrobart in patients with chronic TED. Elegrobart is now the only subcutaneous program to demonstrate positive phase III data in both active and chronic TED. Viridian anticipates a BLA submission for elegrobart in Q1 2027.

Speaker #3: While results were positive, they did not meet pre-specified thresholds required for DRI to pay $40 million of milestone payments tied to the Phase 3 readout.

Speaker #3: In early May, Veridian also provided positive top-line results from Reveal2, which is a Phase 3 study of Eligorobard in patients with chronic TED. Eligorobard is now the only subcutaneous program to demonstrate positive Phase 3 data in both active and chronic TED.

Speaker #3: Veridian anticipates a BLA submission for Eligorobard in Q1 2027. If approved, Eligorobard has the potential to be a convenient subcutaneous auto-injector with a competitive clinical profile, including fewer doses and a shorter treatment duration. As such, our outlook for Eligorobard remains very positive.

Navin Jacob: Viridian anticipates a BLA submission for elegrobart in Q1 2027. If approved, elegrobart has the potential to be a convenient subcutaneous auto-injector with a competitive clinical profile, including fewer doses and a shorter treatment duration, and as such, our outlook for elegrobart remains very positive. More near term, though, is the PDUFA or approval date for veligrotug of 30 June. Compared to the currently approved IV IGF1R therapy for TED, we believe veligrotug has a highly competitive profile, including strong improvements in not only proptosis, but also diplopia response across both active and chronic TED. Importantly, veligrotug provides patients with significant convenience advantages through fewer infusions and shorter infusion times.

Navin Jacob: If approved, elegrobart has the potential to be a convenient subcutaneous auto-injector with a competitive clinical profile, including fewer doses and a shorter treatment duration, and as such, our outlook for elegrobart remains very positive. More near term, though, is the PDUFA or approval date for veligrotug of 30 June. Compared to the currently approved IV IGF1R therapy for TED, we believe veligrotug has a highly competitive profile, including strong improvements in not only proptosis, but also diplopia response across both active and chronic TED. Importantly, veligrotug provides patients with significant convenience advantages through fewer infusions and shorter infusion times. Finally, several non-IGF1R classes of drugs have recently produced mixed or negative data in late-stage trials, supporting IGF1R as the most clinically and commercially validated mechanism in TED. In our acquisition model, we had included some of these non-IGF1R drugs.

Speaker #3: More near-term, though, is the PDUFA or approval date for Velagrotug of June 30th. Compared to the currently approved IV IGFR1R therapy for TED, we believe Velagrotug has a highly competitive profile including strong improvements in not only proptosis but also diplopia response across both active and chronic TED.

Speaker #3: Importantly, Velagrotug provides patients with significant convenience advantages through fewer infusions and shorter infusion times. Finally, several non-IGF-1R classes of drugs have recently produced mixed or negative data in late-stage trials.

Navin Jacob: Finally, several non-IGF1R classes of drugs have recently produced mixed or negative data in late-stage trials, supporting IGF1R as the most clinically and commercially validated mechanism in TED. In our acquisition model, we had included some of these non-IGF1R drugs. Thus, their weak data provides, at a minimum, a very healthy safety margin to our acquisition forecast with potential for material upside.

Speaker #3: Supporting IGF1R as the most clinically and commercially validated mechanism in TED. In our acquisition model, we had included some of these non-IGF1R drugs. Thus, their weak data provides, at a minimum, a very healthy safety margin to our acquisition forecast, with potential for material upside.

Navin Jacob: Thus, their weak data provides, at a minimum, a very healthy safety margin to our acquisition forecast with potential for material upside. Before I close, I'd like to touch on thoughts regarding the market and our positioning for 2026. During Q1 2026, we tracked at least 3 royalty deals for a total of approximately $400 million in announced value and more than 50 equity deals across the US and Europe for a total of $10 billion raised by biopharma companies. On a trailing 12-month basis, the size of royalty deals is at least $6.6 billion, up nearly 20% versus the same period ending in Q1 2025. In closing, we expect the market to continue to grow, driven by favorable industry tailwinds and amplified by continued market awareness for royalties.

Speaker #3: Before I close, I'd like to touch on thoughts regarding the market and our positioning for 2026. During the first quarter of 2026, we tracked at least three royalty deals for a total of approximately $400 million in announced value and more than 50 equity deals across the United States and Europe for a total of $10 billion raised by biopharma companies.

Navin Jacob: Before I close, I'd like to touch on thoughts regarding the market and our positioning for 2026. During Q1 2026, we tracked at least 3 royalty deals for a total of approximately $400 million in announced value and more than 50 equity deals across the US and Europe for a total of $10 billion raised by biopharma companies. On a trailing 12-month basis, the size of royalty deals is at least $6.6 billion, up nearly 20% versus the same period ending in Q1 2025. In closing, we expect the market to continue to grow, driven by favorable industry tailwinds and amplified by continued market awareness for royalties.

Speaker #3: On a trailing 12-month basis, the size of royalty deals is at least $6.6 billion, up nearly 20% versus the same period ending in Q1 2025.

Speaker #3: In closing, we expect the market to continue to grow, driven by favorable industry tailwinds and amplified by continued market awareness for royalties. I will now turn the call over to Zahid Mawani to review our first quarter financial performance.

Navin Jacob: I will now turn the call over to Zaheed Mawani to review our Q1 financial performance.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Naveen. Turning to the first quarter results, our total income was $50.6 million, an increase of $6.5 million, or 15% year over year, primarily driven by higher royalty income led by Assertive and Actually and continued strength of Xolair.

Zaheed Mawani: Thank you, Navin. Turning to the first quarter results, our total income was $50.6 million, an increase of $6.5 million or 15% year over year, primarily driven by higher royalty income led by Ursodiol and Ekterly and continued strength in XOLAIR. These were partially offset by lower VONJO, lower sales for Rydapt as prior year income included a one-time adjustment in sales and a decline in sales for Oracea due to competition from generic products. Turning to expenses, our total expenses were $42.2 million, approximately $3.6 million lower versus last year. This was primarily driven by internalization synergies, including the elimination of performance fees, lower compensation, as well as lower other expenses.

Speaker #1: These were partially offset by lower Vonjo sales for RideApp, as prior year income included a one-time adjustment in sales, and a decline in sales for Eurasia due to competition from generic products.

Speaker #1: Turning to expenses, our total expenses were $42.2 million, approximately $3.6 million lower versus last year. This was primarily driven by internalization synergies, including the elimination of performance fees, lower compensation, as well as other lower expenses.

Zaheed Mawani: Turning to expenses, our total expenses were $42.2 million, approximately $3.6 million lower versus last year. This was primarily driven by internalization synergies, including the elimination of performance fees, lower compensation, as well as lower other expenses. These were partially offset by higher unit-based compensation from mark-to-market adjustments on restricted unit grants and some incremental transaction costs related to our financing initiatives in the quarter. Three quarters post-internalization, we continue to deliver at a pace which is ahead of our synergy targets and are pleased with the execution and discipline shown from our entire team.

Speaker #1: These were partially offset by higher unit-based compensation from mark-to-market adjustments on restricted unit grants, and some incremental transaction costs related to our financing initiatives in the quarter.

Zaheed Mawani: These were partially offset by higher unit-based compensation from mark-to-market adjustments on restricted unit grants and some incremental transaction costs related to our financing initiatives in the quarter. Three quarters post-internalization, we continue to deliver at a pace which is ahead of our synergy targets and are pleased with the execution and discipline shown from our entire team. Additionally, this quarter, as part of the accounting for the financing initiatives mentioned earlier, we recognized a loss on debt refinancing of $9.8 million in the quarter relating to the preferred securities conversion.

Speaker #1: Three quarters post-internalization, we continue to deliver at a pace which is ahead of our synergy targets, and are pleased with the execution and discipline shown from our entire team.

Speaker #1: Additionally, this quarter, as part of the accounting for the financing initiatives mentioned earlier, we recognized a loss on debt refinancing of $9.8 million in the quarter relating to the preferred securities conversion.

Zaheed Mawani: Additionally, this quarter, as part of the accounting for the financing initiatives mentioned earlier, we recognized a loss on debt refinancing of $9.8 million in the quarter relating to the preferred securities conversion. This $9.8 million is comprised of a loss of $1.2 million related to the partial purchase and cancellation of the 2024 preferred securities and a loss of $7.3 million resulting from the extinguishment of a portion of the 2024 preferred securities in exchange for issuing new debentures.

Speaker #1: This $9.8 million is comprised of a loss of $1.2 million related to the partial purchase and cancellation of the 2024 preferred securities, and a loss of $7.3 million resulting from the execution of a portion of the 2024 preferred securities in exchange for issuing new debt ventures.

Zaheed Mawani: This $9.8 million is comprised of a loss of $1.2 million related to the partial purchase and cancellation of the 2024 preferred securities and a loss of $7.3 million resulting from the extinguishment of a portion of the 2024 preferred securities in exchange for issuing new debentures. Finally, unamortized deferred transaction costs of $1.3 million related to the portion of the 2024 preferred securities exchanged were also recognized as a loss on debt refinancing. Notably, these accounting adjustments are one-time in nature and do not impact adjusted EBITDA. All in, our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $52.8 million, which increased by $1.1 million over the Q1 last year.

Speaker #1: Finally, unamortized deferred transaction costs of $1.3 million related to the portion of the 2024 preferred securities exchanged were also recognized as a loss on debt refinancing.

Zaheed Mawani: Finally, unamortized deferred transaction costs of $1.3 million related to the portion of the 2024 preferred securities exchanged were also recognized as a loss on debt refinancing. Notably, these accounting adjustments are one-time in nature and do not impact adjusted EBITDA. All in, our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $52.8 million, which increased by $1.1 million over the Q1 last year.

Speaker #1: Notably, these accounting adjustments are one-time in nature and do not impact adjusted EBITDA. All in, our adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $52.8 million, which increased by $1.1 million over the first quarter last year.

Speaker #1: On a rate basis, our adjusted EBITDA margin was 90% versus 83% in the first quarter of 2025. Cash receipts for the quarter were $58.4 million, a decrease of 6% year over year.

Zaheed Mawani: On a rate basis, our adjusted EBITDA margin was 90% versus 83% in Q1 2025. Cash receipts for the quarter were $58.4 million, a decrease of 6% year-over-year. The decrease was driven by the cycling of the previously discussed $17.6 million Ursodiol Two refund last year, lower receipts from EYLEA and Oracea, partially offset by the $5 million Ursodiol One milestone payment, coupled with strong overall ursodiol sales and $1.8 million in receipts from Ekterly. We generated adjusted cash earnings per unit of $0.68. We announced yesterday our quarterly distribution of $0.11 per unit, which will be paid on 20 July 2026 to unitholders of record 30 June 2026. Turning to Slide 12. We continue to generate strong cash flows from our assets.

Speaker #1: The decrease was driven by the cycling of the previously discussed $17.6 million Assertive to refund last year's lower receipts from ILEA and Eurasia, partially offset by the $5 million Assertive One milestone payment, coupled with strong overall Assertive sales and $1.8 million in receipts from Actually.

Speaker #1: We generated adjusted cash earnings per unit of $0.68, and we announced yesterday our quarterly distribution of $0.11 per unit, which will be paid on July 20, 2026, to unitholders of record as of June 30, 2026.

Zaheed Mawani: We announced yesterday our quarterly distribution of $0.11 per unit, which will be paid on 20 July 2026 to unitholders of record 30 June 2026. Turning to Slide 12. We continue to generate strong cash flows from our assets. Over the last 12 months, ending 31 March 2026, we recorded total income of $205.1 million. After adjusting for receivables, net unrealized and realized gains, the net change in financial royalty asset, and other non-cash items, we achieved normalized total cash receipts of $192.8 million. After our operating expenses, management and performance fees, and net change in performance fees payable, which collectively totaled $26.7 million, adjusted EBITDA was $166.1 million with a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA margin of 86%. We also generated adjusted cash earnings per unit of $2.51.

Speaker #1: Turning to slide 12, we continue to generate strong cash flows from our assets. Over the last 12 months ending March 31, 2026, we recorded total income of $205.1 million.

Zaheed Mawani: Over the last 12 months, ending 31 March 2026, we recorded total income of $205.1 million. After adjusting for receivables, net unrealized and realized gains, the net change in financial royalty asset, and other non-cash items, we achieved normalized total cash receipts of $192.8 million. After our operating expenses, management and performance fees, and net change in performance fees payable, which collectively totaled $26.7 million, adjusted EBITDA was $166.1 million with a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA margin of 86%. We also generated adjusted cash earnings per unit of $2.51. Moving to Slide 13. As of 31 March, we had $52.5 million of cash and cash equivalents.

Speaker #1: After adjusting for receivables, net unrealized and realized gains, the net change in financial royalty asset, and other non-cash items, we achieved normalized total cash receipts of $192.8 million.

Speaker #1: After our operating expenses, management and performance fees, and net change in performance fees payable, which collectively total $26.7 million, adjusted EBITDA was $166.1 million, with a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA margin of 86%.

Speaker #1: We also generated adjusted cash earnings per unit of $2.51. Moving to slide 13, as of March 31, we had $52.5 million of cash and cash equivalents.

Zaheed Mawani: Moving to Slide 13. As of 31 March, we had $52.5 million of cash and cash equivalents. We also had $54.3 million of royalties receivables and $502.7 million of credit availability from our bank facilities. Using the net proceeds from our US private placement as well as cash on hand, we repaid $263.8 million on our credit facility in the quarter. We continue to be well-capitalized and well-positioned to fulfill any prospective milestone commitments as well as continue to invest in new assets.

Speaker #1: We also had $54.3 million of royalties receivable and $502.7 million of credit availability from our bank facilities. Using the net proceeds from our US private placement, as well as cash on hand, we repaid $263.8 million on our credit facility in the quarter.

Zaheed Mawani: We also had $54.3 million of royalties receivables and $502.7 million of credit availability from our bank facilities. Using the net proceeds from our US private placement as well as cash on hand, we repaid $263.8 million on our credit facility in the quarter. We continue to be well-capitalized and well-positioned to fulfill any prospective milestone commitments as well as continue to invest in new assets. Furthermore, we will continue to allocate a portion of our capital towards unit buybacks. The TSX has accepted our notice of intention to renew our NCIB. We will retain discretion whether to make any purchases under the new NCIB and to determine the timing, amount, and acceptable price of any such purchases, subject at all times to applicable TSX and other regulatory requirements.

Speaker #1: We continue to be well capitalized and well positioned to fulfill any prospective milestone commitments, as well as continue to invest in new assets. Furthermore, we will continue to allocate a portion of our capital towards unit buybacks. The TSX has accepted our notice of intention to renew our NCIB.

Zaheed Mawani: Furthermore, we will continue to allocate a portion of our capital towards unit buybacks. The TSX has accepted our notice of intention to renew our NCIB. We will retain discretion whether to make any purchases under the new NCIB and to determine the timing, amount, and acceptable price of any such purchases, subject at all times to applicable TSX and other regulatory requirements. All units purchased by the trust under the new NCIB will be canceled.

Speaker #1: We will retain discretion whether to make any purchases under the new NCIB and to determine the timing, amount, and acceptable price of any such purchases, subject at all times to applicable TSX and other regulatory requirements.

Speaker #1: All units purchased by the Trust under the new NCIB will be canceled. Beginning May 20, 2026, through May 19, 2027, we will have the ability to purchase approximately 3.1 million units in aggregate.

Zaheed Mawani: All units purchased by the trust under the new NCIB will be canceled. Beginning 20 May 2026 through 19 May 2027, we will have the ability to purchase approximately 3.1 million units in aggregate. Importantly, any capital allocation to the NCIB will not have a material impact on our acquisition ability. During the 3 months ended 31 March 2026, the trust acquired and canceled 76,000 units at an average price of $11.31, totaling $859,000.

Zaheed Mawani: Beginning 20 May 2026 through 19 May 2027, we will have the ability to purchase approximately 3.1 million units in aggregate. Importantly, any capital allocation to the NCIB will not have a material impact on our acquisition ability. During the 3 months ended 31 March 2026, the trust acquired and canceled 76,000 units at an average price of $11.31, totaling $859,000.

Speaker #1: Importantly, any capital allocation to the NCIB will not have a material impact on our acquisition ability. During the three months ended March 31, 2026, the trust acquired and canceled 76,000 units at an average price of $11.31, totaling $859,000.

Speaker #1: As of March 31, 2026, in aggregate, we have acquired and canceled 4.7 million units at an average price per unit of $7.15, totaling $33.5 million under all current and previous NCIB plans.

Zaheed Mawani: As of 31 March 2026 in aggregate, we have acquired and canceled 4.7 million units at an average price per unit of $7.15, totaling $33.5 million under all current and previous NCIB plans. From 31 March 2026 to 12 May 2026, we acquired an additional 38,000 units under the May 2025 NCIB plan at an average price of $11.67, totaling $448,000 under the AUPP. That concludes our prepared remarks, and with that, let's open the call to questions.

Speaker #1: From March 31, 2026, to May 12, 2026, we acquired an additional 38,000 units under the May 2025 NCIB plan at an average price of $11.67, totaling $448,000 under the AUPP.

Speaker #1: That concludes our prepared remarks. With that, let's open the call to questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by one on your touchtone phone.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from Douglas Miehm with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

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Speaker #2: If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from Douglas Mime with RBC Capital Markets.

Speaker #2: Your line is now open.

Speaker #3: Yeah, good morning, everyone. I have two questions. My first one has to do with the Actor Lease situation. And yeah, when we ran our math, it did look attractive for Kia Z to buy back this royalty, estimating at least a 17-18 percent IRR on their part if they were to go ahead with it.

Douglas Miehm: Good morning, everyone. I have two questions. My first one has to do with the actor lease situation. When we ran our math, it did look attractive for KSE to buy back this royalty, estimating, you know, at least a 17%, 18% IRR on their part if they were to go ahead with it. I think they will. However, what I'm curious about is your commentary around may represent a change of control. Would you be willing to expand on that so that we can be, you know, more confident in what might happen here?

Speaker #3: So, I think they will. However, what I'm curious about is your commentary around 'may represent a change of control.' Would you be willing to expand on that, so that we can be more confident in what might happen here?

Speaker #4: Hey Doug, it's Ali. Thanks for the question. Look, I wouldn't read much into that. I just think we are at a phase in this process where, beyond what you're seeing on the tape, we have pretty limited information.

Ali Hedayat: Hey, Doug, it's Ali. Thanks for the question. I wouldn't read much into that. I just think we are at a phase in this process where, you know, beyond what you're seeing on the tape, we have pretty limited information. We're essentially working through it from our vantage point and trying to figure out what's optimal for us. I'm sure they're doing the same thing. You know, we will see where all of that leads in effect. You know, I wouldn't read into that we have determined that it's on one side of the fence or the other side of the fence.

Speaker #4: So we're essentially working through it from our vantage point and trying to figure out what's optimal for us. I'm sure they're doing the same thing.

Speaker #4: And we will see where all of that leads, in effect. I wouldn't read into that that we have determined that it's someone's side of the fence or the other side of the fence.

Speaker #3: Okay, perfect. And just my follow-up question has to do with the refinancing of the debt and what you’re able to accomplish there, which seems very attractive—taking down your cost of debt by, geez, 150 basis points or so.

Douglas Miehm: Okay, perfect. Just my follow-up question has to do with the refinancing of the debt and what you were able to accomplish there, which seems very attractive, taking down your cost of debt by, geez, 150 basis points or so. How important is that to the company when it's considering new royalty opportunities, and how would that compare relative to perhaps your competition? I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Speaker #3: How important is that to the company when it's considering new royalty opportunities, and how would that compare relative to, perhaps, your competition? And I'll leave it there.

Speaker #3: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Well, I'd reframe that, I guess, by saying it's when you look at the realm of cash-flowing assets that are approved, I think the debt refinancing gives us two meaningful benefits.

Ali Hedayat: I'd reframe that, I guess by saying, you know, it's when you look at the realm of cash flowing assets that are approved, I think the debt refinancing gives us two meaningful benefits. The first one, as you allude to, is a lower cost of capital, which makes us significantly more competitive. I think that's something that we will certainly make use of. I think the second one is it allows us access to a very deep pool of capital that could, especially for those types of assets, make us significantly more capable of doing larger sized transactions. I think it helps us on both fronts.

Speaker #4: The first one, as you alluded to, is a lower cost of capital, which makes us significantly more competitive, and I think that's something that we will certainly make use of.

Speaker #4: I think the second one is, it allows us access to a very deep pool of capital that could, especially for those types of assets, make us significantly more capable of doing larger size transactions.

Speaker #4: So I think it helps us on both fronts. And I would go back to something I've been talking about, and I alluded to on the call a bit earlier. It also helps us to really think about the shape of the portfolio, right?

Ali Hedayat: I would go back to something I've been, you know, talking about and I alluded to on the call a bit earlier, it also helps us to really think about the shape of the portfolio, right? We can drop in cash flowing assets at levered returns that are very attractive to us at this lower cost of debt. We can sort of balance them out with longer duration, higher end transactions on an unlevered basis in the pre-approval market. I think that allows us to approach, you know, the broad royalty investing space with a, with a, you know, very balanced and very thoughtful approach, and really start looking at our portfolio more at a portfolio level rather than a sort of transaction to transaction type of framework.

Speaker #4: So, we can drop in cash-flowing assets at levered returns that are very attractive to us at this lower cost of debt. Then we can sort of balance them out with longer-duration, higher transactions on an unlevered basis in the pre-approval market.

Speaker #4: And I think that allows us to approach the broad royalty investing space with a very balanced and very thoughtful approach, and really start looking at our portfolio more at a portfolio level rather than a sort of transaction-to-transaction type of framework.

Speaker #4: So, I think that's probably the way I would look at it.

Ali Hedayat: I think that's probably the way I would look at it.

Speaker #3: Okay, that's great. Thanks very much.

Douglas Miehm: Okay, that's great. Thanks very much.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from Nathan Poe with National Bank Financial. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Nathan Poole with National Bank Financial. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Nathan Po with National Bank Financial. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. I want to follow up on that mix of pre-approval and commercial assets. I know last quarter we spoke to that as well.

Nathan Poole: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. I want to follow up on that mix of pre-approval and commercial assets. I know last quarter, we did speak to that as well. How do you expect leverage to shape up throughout the year? Can you dive into more of the mechanics of how this asset stack, you know, enhances your flexibility to take that portfolio approach?

Nathan Po: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. I want to follow up on that mix of pre-approval and commercial assets. I know last quarter, we did speak to that as well. How do you expect leverage to shape up throughout the year? Can you dive into more of the mechanics of how this asset stack, you know, enhances your flexibility to take that portfolio approach?

Speaker #5: How do you expect leverage to shape out throughout the year? And can you dive into more of the mechanics of how this stack enhances your flexibility to take that portfolio approach?

Speaker #4: I think if you were to take the two extremes, right, and say, 'Look, we're going to buy a highly cash-flowing asset that is three or four years into its sales curve,' that asset fits into our facilities very well from a leverage perspective.

Ali Hedayat: You know, I think if you know, if you were to take the two extremes, right, and say, Look, we're gonna buy a highly cash flowing asset that is, you know, 3 or 4 years into its sales curve, that asset fits into our facilities very well from a leverage perspective, and the cost of debt underlying that leverage is lower, right? When you think about returns to unitholders, those are ultimately levered returns. If we can apply more leverage and apply it at a lower cost, I think that allows us to be more active in the space of assets that are cash flow and be more competitive in that space than we have been historically.

Speaker #4: And the cost of debt underlying that leverage is lower, right? So when you think about returns to unitholders, those are ultimately levered returns.

Speaker #4: And if we can apply more leverage and apply it at a lower cost, I think that allows us to be more active in the space of assets that are cash flowing and be more competitive in that space than we have been historically.

Speaker #4: On the other end of the spectrum, obviously, a pre-approval asset two or three years—or one or two years—away from sales is not an asset that we could really pass through our leverage facilities in an easy way, because it's not generating trailing cash flow.

Ali Hedayat: The other end of the spectrum, you know, obviously, a preapproval asset 2 or 3 years or, you know, 1 or 2 years away from sales is not an asset that we can really pass through our leverage facilities in an easy way because it's not generating trailing cash flow. You know, what we are trying to do here is to say, All right, look, let's look at the scope of transactions available to us.

Speaker #4: So what we are trying to do here is to say, "All right, let's look at the scope of transactions available to us. Let's think about how they fit into our balance sheet, and let's construct a portfolio where we're sitting sort of at an optimal point of levered returns duration and growth over time." And I think being able to be more competitive in the approved asset space while extending our duration and boosting our unlevered returns with pre-approval assets is really an optimal way to do that.

Ali Hedayat: Let's think about how they fit into our balance sheet, and let's construct a portfolio where we're sitting sort of at an optimal point of levered returns, duration and growth over time. I think being able to be more competitive in the approved asset space while extending our duration and boosting our unlevered returns with preapproval assets is really an optimal way to do that. I think what you'll see us do is be a lot more thoughtful about how an asset fits into our portfolio, alongside the usual criteria we apply at the asset level and optimize for that. I think the history of the company looking backwards was, you know, very much sort of an asset-by-asset type framework.

Speaker #4: So I think what you'll see us do is be a lot more thoughtful about how an asset fits into our portfolio, alongside the usual criteria we apply at the asset level, and optimize for that.

Speaker #4: So I think the history of the company looking backwards was very much sort of an asset-by-asset type framework. I think right now we'll still have that, but we'll have a portfolio framework that is more meaningful as well.

Ali Hedayat: I think right now we'll still have that, but we'll have a portfolio framework, that is more meaningful as well.

Speaker #5: Thank you. I appreciate the color. And you mentioned earlier royalty deals up our royalty deals are up 20% year over year as so as you evaluate new royalty opportunities in the current market environment, are you seeing any changes in expected return threshold or transaction structures?

Nathan Poole: Thank you. Appreciate the color. You mentioned earlier, Royalty deals are up 20% year-over-year as you evaluate new royalty opportunities in the current market environment, are you seeing any changes in expected return threshold, competitions or transaction structures?

Nathan Po: Thank you. Appreciate the color. You mentioned earlier, Royalty deals are up 20% year-over-year as you evaluate new royalty opportunities in the current market environment, are you seeing any changes in expected return threshold, competitions or transaction structures?

Speaker #4: I'll let Naveen speak to the royalty market, but one thing I do want to highlight with the growth in the market, and I think this is an important comment, I think looking back two or three years ago when capital was relatively scarce in the sector and the biotechs were having difficulty funding an equity market, SM&A was absent for the most part, and debt markets were quite difficult.

Ali Hedayat: I'll let Navin speak to the royalty market, but one thing I do wanna highlight with the growth in the market, and I think this is an important comment, you know, I think looking back two or three years ago when capital was relatively scarce in the sector and the biotechs were having difficulty funding in equity markets, M&A was, you know, absent for the most part and debt markets were quite difficult, there was a thought that the growth in royalties over that period reflected essentially some degree of necessity on the part of biotechs and not genuine penetration of the asset class as a form of funding.

Speaker #4: There was a thought that the growth in royalties over that period reflected essentially some degree of necessity on the part of biotechs and not genuine penetration of the asset class as a form of funding.

Speaker #4: And what I think is really important to highlight in the growth last year is to us that is a proof point that it's the opposite, that despite markets being very open last year, despite people having access to equity, despite people having access to debt, despite there being a pretty active M&A market, we still had very significant growth in royalties.

Ali Hedayat: What I think is really important to highlight in the growth last year is to us that is a proof point that it's the opposite. That despite markets being very open last year, despite people having access to equity, despite people having access to debt, despite there being a pretty active M&A market, we still had very significant growth in royalties. I think that speaks to the royalty asset class becoming more and more relevant as a source of funding for the industry overall, and we're super excited about that. Navin, I don't know if you wanna talk about the returns and

Speaker #4: And I think that speaks to the royalty asset class becoming more and more relevant as a source of funding for the industry overall. And we're super excited about that, Naveen.

Speaker #4: I don't know if you want to talk about the returns and.

Speaker #3: Well, I mean, a few things. There are a couple more competitors in the space, but as we've noted before, this is not an easy business to get into because there are multiple different verticals that are very different from other investment vehicles.

Navin Jacob: Well, I mean, a few things. You know, there are a couple more competitors in the space, but as we've noted before, this is not an easy business to get into because there are multiple different verticals that are very different from other investment vehicles. You may be able to source, but actually execute is a hard thing. You may be able to execute, but sourcing is a complicated feat just in and of itself. There are legal components both on the front and the contract front. The competition, if anything, just highlights the fact that there is a significant growth opportunity for the royalty investment business. We're not necessarily concerned about the competition.

Speaker #3: And so, you may be able to source, but actually execute is a hard thing. You may be able to execute, but sourcing is a complicated feat in and of itself.

Speaker #3: And there are legal components both on the front end, the contract front. So the competition, if anything, just highlights the fact that there is a significant growth opportunity for the royalty investment business.

Speaker #3: And so we're not necessarily concerned about the competition. It just highlights the fact again that the royalty business, as we've been saying for the last few years, we believe is going to be a greater proportion of how biotech companies raise capital.

Navin Jacob: We're not necessarily concerned about the competition. It just highlights the fact again that the royalty business, as we've been saying for the last few years, we believe is gonna be a greater proportion of how biotech companies raise capital. With regards to returns, you know, perhaps in the post-approval setting, and by post-approval I mean several years, if a product's been approved for several years, perhaps that return has come down a touch.

Navin Jacob: It just highlights the fact again that the royalty business, as we've been saying for the last few years, we believe is gonna be a greater proportion of how biotech companies raise capital. With regards to returns, you know, perhaps in the post-approval setting, and by post-approval I mean several years, if a product's been approved for several years, perhaps that return has come down a touch. On the other hand, the overall market has grown as you've seen. Net-net, we still are quite bullish on the opportunities that we see in front of us.

Speaker #3: With regards to returns, perhaps in the post-approval setting—and by post-approval, I mean several years—if a product’s been approved for several years, perhaps that return has come down a touch.

Speaker #3: But on the other hand, the overall market has grown, as you've seen. So net-net we still are quite bullish on the opportunities that we see in front of us.

Navin Jacob: On the other hand, the overall market has grown as you've seen. Net-net, we still are quite bullish on the opportunities that we see in front of us.

Speaker #5: That's helpful. Thank you. And the EBITDA margin this quarter was above our expectations. Were there any one-timers embedded in your results helping the margin profile, or is this more indicative of a sustainable level going forward, especially post-internalization?

Nathan Poole: That's helpful. Thank you. The EBITDA margin this quarter was above our expectations. Were there any one-timers embedded in your results helping the margin profile, or is this more indicative of an sustainable level going forward, especially post-internalization?

Nathan Po: That's helpful. Thank you. The EBITDA margin this quarter was above our expectations. Were there any one-timers embedded in your results helping the margin profile, or is this more indicative of an sustainable level going forward, especially post-internalization?

Speaker #4: I'll let Zahid speak to the line item specifics, but look, we've been saying post-internalization pretty consistently that the impact of internalization was to meaningfully raise our EBITDA margins.

Ali Hedayat: I'll let Zahid speak to the line item specifics, but look, we've been saying post-internalization pretty consistently that, you know, the impact of internalization was to meaningfully raise our EBITDA margins and, you know, we've been demonstrating that over a number of quarters. I think the current levels are reflective of a period of time where we haven't been reinvesting as aggressively as we'd like to in the business, so we're gonna do some of that over the next 2 or 3 quarters. I think even adjusted for the impact of that, EBITDA margins are gonna be meaningfully higher than they were in the pre-internalization paradigm and, you should, you know, think of them at, in sort of the high 80s to 90 range, on a sustainable basis.

Speaker #4: And we've been demonstrating that over a number of quarters. I think the current levels are reflective of a period of time where we haven't been reinvesting as aggressively as we'd like to in the business.

Speaker #4: So we're going to do some of that over the next two or three quarters. But I think even adjusted for the impact of that, EBITDA margins are going to be meaningfully higher than they were in the pre-internalization paradigm.

Speaker #4: And you should think of them in sort of the high 80s to 90 range on a sustainable basis. And I think as sort of some of the impact of that growth investment kicks in in the top line, margins will probably creep back to the higher end of that range.

Ali Hedayat: I think as sort of some of the impact of that growth investment kicks in in the top line, margins will probably creep back to the higher end of that range.

Speaker #6: Yeah. And Nathan and Zahid, hi. I just wanted to clarify one thing is that you did see a number of new things on our statements and none of those are flowing through to adjusted EBITDA.

Zaheed Mawani: Yeah. Nathan at Zaheed Mawani, hi. I just wanted to clarify when one thing is that you did see a number of new things on our statements, none of those are flowing through to adjusted EBITDA. You know, some are one time, like I talked about in my prepared remarks. Some, you know, you'll see just as a matter of course due to our financing initiatives. They're not going to impact the margins going forward, Nathan.

Speaker #6: So some are one-time, like I talked about in my prepared remarks, some you'll see just as a matter of course due to our financing initiatives.

Speaker #6: But they're not going to impact the margins going forward, Nathan.

Speaker #5: That's helpful. Thank you very much. I'll turn it over.

Nathan Poole: That's helpful. Thank you very much. I'll turn it over.

Nathan Po: That's helpful. Thank you very much. I'll turn it over.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Michael Freeman with Raymond James. Your line is.

Operator: Your next question comes from Michael Freeman with Raymond James. Your line is.

Speaker #6: Hi. Good morning, Ali, Naveen, Zahid. Congratulations on the results. Thanks for touching on the Viridian Reveal 1 and Reveal 2 readouts for Ali. And that detail has been helpful.

Michael W. Freeman: Hi. Good morning, Ali, Navin, Zaheed Mawani. Congratulations on the results. Thanks for touching on the Viridian REVEAL-1 and REVEAL-2 readouts for elegrobart. That detail has been helpful. I wonder if you could talk about, you know, how you're thinking about its market positioning, I guess, for both elegrobart and veligrotug, versus TEPEZZA, and how this might compare to your underwriting assumptions, and ultimately how this will influence royalty returns.

Michael Freeman: Hi. Good morning, Ali, Navin, Zaheed Mawani. Congratulations on the results. Thanks for touching on the Viridian REVEAL-1 and REVEAL-2 readouts for elegrobart. That detail has been helpful. I wonder if you could talk about, you know, how you're thinking about its market positioning, I guess, for both elegrobart and veligrotug, versus TEPEZZA, and how this might compare to your underwriting assumptions, and ultimately how this will influence royalty returns.

Speaker #6: I wonder if you could talk about how you're thinking about its marketing market positioning, I guess, for both Ali and Valley. Versus to Pezza.

Speaker #6: And how this might compare to your underwriting assumptions, and then ultimately how this will influence royalty returns.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Michael. So, we—well, first, with regards to our underwriting expectations, how things have played out are largely in line with our expectations, particularly because we had structured the deal in the way we had.

Navin Jacob: Thanks. Thanks, Michael. Well, first, with regards to our underwriting expectations, how things have played out are largely in line with our expectations, particularly because we had structured the deal in the way we had, that I think reflects the type of research that we do, the depth of research that we do. Add on top of that the ability to create novel financial structures that provide adequate returns that are not just adequate, but healthy returns for our unitholders. With regards to the positioning, we're very excited by what Viridian is capable of doing, what has been shown by both veligrotug as well as elegrobart.

Speaker #3: That, I think, reflects the type of research that we do, the depth of research that we do. And then, add on top of that the ability to create novel financial structures that provide adequate returns—that are not just adequate, but healthy returns—for our unitholders.

Speaker #3: With regards to the positioning, we're very excited by what Viridian is capable of doing, and what has been shown by both Valley Growth Dog as well as Allegro Barn.

Speaker #3: So starting with Valley Growth Dog, that alone, even though it's IV, is, in our opinion, superior to Pezza simply because of the fact that it has shown efficacy not only in the active TED space, but also in the chronic TED space.

Navin Jacob: Starting with veligrotug, that alone, even though it's IV, is, in our opinion, superior to TEPEZZA simply because of the fact that it has shown efficacy not only in the active TED space but also in the chronic TED space. It has shown efficacy not only in proptosis response that is equivalent to at least equivalent to that of TEPEZZA, but also diplopia response was very strong. Both again, in not just in active but in the chronic TED space. Furthermore, there is a strong convenience benefit with the veligrotug relative to TEPEZZA. Five infusions, a shorter infusion time relative to eight infusions and a longer infusion time with TEPEZZA. Now you turn to elegrobart.

Speaker #3: It has shown efficacy not only in proptosis response that is equivalent to at least equivalent to that of Tepezza, but also diplopia response was very strong.

Speaker #3: And both, again, not just in active, but in the chronic TED space. And furthermore, there is a strong convenience benefit with Valley Growth Dog relative to Tepezza—five infusions, a shorter infusion time—whereas Tepezza involves eight infusions with a longer infusion time.

Speaker #3: I turned to Allegro Barn. Now, that is so Reveal 1 obviously relative to the Viridian investors' expectations may have not come in as strong as they had anticipated, but it is nonetheless a solid product.

Navin Jacob: Now you turn to elegrobart. REVEAL-1 obviously relative to the Viridian investors' expectations may have not come in as strong as they anticipated, but it is nonetheless a solid product for active TED, particularly when you consider the fact that it is a true subcutaneous auto-injector. That's important relative to the subcutaneous version that Amgen is coming with, which is not really a true subcutaneous. Importantly, I think REVEAL-2 turned out, which is the chronic TED space, and that's really where elegrobart can shine, that data came out, I think, better than everyone's expectations. Chronic TED is a hard space to penetrate.

Navin Jacob: REVEAL-1 obviously relative to the Viridian investors' expectations may have not come in as strong as they anticipated, but it is nonetheless a solid product for active TED, particularly when you consider the fact that it is a true subcutaneous auto-injector. That's important relative to the subcutaneous version that Amgen is coming with, which is not really a true subcutaneous. Importantly, I think REVEAL-2 turned out, which is the chronic TED space, and that's really where elegrobart can shine, that data came out, I think, better than everyone's expectations. Chronic TED is a hard space to penetrate.

Speaker #3: For active TED, particularly when you consider the fact that it is a true subcutaneous auto injector. And that's important relative to the "subcutaneous" version that Amgen is coming with, which is not which is a not really a true subcutaneous.

Speaker #3: And importantly, I think Reveal 2 turned out, which is the chronic TED space, and that's really where Allegro Barn can shine. That data came out, I think, better than everyone's expectations.

Speaker #3: Chronic TED is a hard space to penetrate, and you really needed a subcutaneous auto-injector to be able to grow that market and penetrate that market, and the asset has shown high-quality data there.

Navin Jacob: You really needed a subcutaneous auto-injector to be able to grow that market and penetrate that market. The asset has shown high quality data there. We're excited about the Viridian team. They have a strong marketing team. We're excited to see what they can do with both assets.

Speaker #3: And so we're excited about the Viridian team; they have a strong marketing team. We're excited to see what they can do with both assets.

Speaker #5: Okay. All right. Thank you very much, Naveen. That's really helpful. Now, we see that you reactivated the NCIB and are buying back shares. Clearly, there's a view that your units are undervalued.

Michael W. Freeman: Okay. All right. Thank you very much, Navin. That's really helpful. Now, I, we see that you reactivated the NCIB and are buying back shares. You know, clearly there's a view that your units are undervalued. Related to that, I wonder if you could touch on the acquisition of XOMA by Ligand Pharmaceuticals and what read-throughs to DRI should the market take from this transaction.

Michael Freeman: Okay. All right. Thank you very much, Navin. That's really helpful. Now, I, we see that you reactivated the NCIB and are buying back shares. You know, clearly there's a view that your units are undervalued. Related to that, I wonder if you could touch on the acquisition of XOMA by Ligand Pharmaceuticals and what read-throughs to DRI should the market take from this transaction.

Speaker #5: Related to that, I wonder if you could touch on the acquisition of Zelma. And what read-throughs to DRI should the market take from this transaction?

Speaker #4: I'm not sure we're going to spend a lot of time commenting on acquisitions of other companies, but what I will say is it's it shows the value of some of the pre-approval portfolio and the expansion of our strategy into that space.

Navin Jacob: Look, I'm not sure we're gonna spend a lot of time commenting on acquisitions of other companies. What I will say is, you know, it shows the value of some of the pre-approval portfolio and the expansion of our strategy into that space. I think the risk-return that we're capturing in our transactions, I personally think is more favorable than what Zelma has been doing historically as a strategy. I like our positioning there, but I think it does show the deep value in that space.

Ali Hedayat: Look, I'm not sure we're gonna spend a lot of time commenting on acquisitions of other companies. What I will say is, you know, it shows the value of some of the pre-approval portfolio and the expansion of our strategy into that space. I think the risk-return that we're capturing in our transactions, I personally think is more favorable than what Zelma has been doing historically as a strategy. I like our positioning there, but I think it does show the deep value in that space.

Speaker #4: I think the risk return that we're capturing in our transactions I personally think is more favorable than what Zelma has been doing historically as a strategy.

Speaker #4: So, I like our positioning there, but I think it does show the deep value in that space.

Speaker #3: Okay. All right. Thank you very much. I'll pass it on.

Michael W. Freeman: Okay. All right. Thank you very much. I'll pass it on.

Michael Freeman: Okay. All right. Thank you very much. I'll pass it on.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Justin Keywood with Stifel. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Justin Keywood with Stifel. Your line is now open.

Speaker #4: Good morning. Thanks for taking my call. Just with the outperformance in Q1 and positive outlook for Q2 and/or or Xurdu, should we expect 2026 to trend to the upper end of the annual guidance?

Justin Keywood: Good morning. Thanks for taking my call. Just with the outperformance in Q1 and positive outlook for Q2 or ORSERDU, should we expect 2026 to trend to the upper end of the annual guidance?

Speaker #6: Hi. Thanks for the question. Look, I think it's a little early for us to make guidance revisions, but we're obviously very pleased with how our Xurdu and the broader portfolio are doing.

Navin Jacob: Hi. Thanks for the question. Look, I think it's a little early for us to

Ali Hedayat: Hi. Thanks for the question. Look, I think it's a little early for us to make guidance revisions, we're obviously, you know, very pleased with how ORSERDU and the broader portfolio are doing. We'll continue to monitor that as we, you know, go through the year sequentially. I think it's a bit early for us to revise annual guidance at this point.

Ali Hedayat: Make guidance revisions, we're obviously, you know, very pleased with how ORSERDU and the broader portfolio are doing. We'll continue to monitor that as we, you know, go through the year sequentially. I think it's a bit early for us to revise annual guidance at this point.

Speaker #6: We'll continue to monitor that as we go through the year sequentially. But I think it's a bit early for us to revise annual guidance at this point.

Speaker #4: Understood. And then on our Xurdu, there was mention of lifestyle management studies that could lead to additional upside. If we could have some additional color on what those studies could be, the timing of, and what the potential upside may be.

Justin Keywood: Understood. On ORSERDU, there was mention of lifestyle management studies that could lead to additional upside. If we could have some additional color on what those studies could be, the timing of and what the potential upside may be. Also, we've noticed a unfavorable AdCom for a competitive or potential competitive drug to ORSERDU by AstraZeneca. Does that impact the outlook at all?

Speaker #4: And then also we've noticed unfavorable adcom for competitive or potential competitive drug to our Xurdu by AstraZeneca. And does that impact the outlook at all?

Speaker #3: Yeah. Let me start with the hi, Les. How are you? Let me start with the AstraZeneca/Camazestrin adcom. First, we'll say look, Serena 6 we always felt was a very novel study, but on the other hand, it was as the adcom proved, a strange way of defining first line.

Navin Jacob: Yeah. Hi, Les, how are you? Let me start with the AstraZeneca camizestrant AdCom. First, we'll say, look, SERENA-6, we always felt was a very novel study, but on the other hand, it was, as the AdCom proved, a strange way of defining first line. It's not really first line. We've always internally called it one and a half lines, because you're waiting for the mutation to pop up before you give camizestrant. Now FDA has historically gone in favor of an AdCom, but it may not. It's still possible that camizestrant is approved for the first line setting.

Speaker #3: It's not really first line. We've always internally called it one and a half lines, because you're waiting for the mutation to pop up before you give—before you give Camazestrin.

Speaker #3: And now, FDA has historically gone in favor of an adcom, but it may not. And so it's still possible that Camazestrin is approved for the first line setting.

Speaker #3: Regardless, I think what's important is that we had built Camazestrin into our expectation. And other competition into our expectation. Expectations at the time of the acquisition.

Navin Jacob: Regardless, I think what's important is that we had built camizestrant into our expectation, and other competition into our expectation, expectations at the time of the acquisition. You know, so to the extent that competition does not play out, that is upside for us. Just to be clear, in our, in my personal opinion, camizestrant is an active molecule. So, where it actually ends up with an approval is yet to be determined. We'll leave that to the FDA. With regards to lifecycle management programs, as we discussed in the last quarter, we discussed this in quite a bit of detail in the last quarter. There's several trials ongoing. The most notable one of which is the adjuvant study.

Speaker #3: And so to the extent that competition does not play out, that is upside for us. But just to be clear, in our in my personal opinion, Camazestrin is an active molecule.

Speaker #3: And so where it actually ends up with a with an approval is yet to be determined. We'll leave that to the FDA. With regards to lifecycle management programs, as we discussed in the last quarter, we discussed this in quite a bit of detail in the last quarter.

Speaker #3: There's several trials ongoing. Most notable one of which is the adjuvant study that'll read out call it 2028 roughly. If we say that's the most notable because that's really the driver behind why Roche has called their oral syrup up Geodestrin they have noted that that drug is going to be their biggest drug ever.

Navin Jacob: The most notable one of which is the adjuvant study. That'll read out in, call it 2028, roughly. If we say that's the most notable because that's really the driver behind why Roche has called their oral SERD, giredestrant. They have noted that that drug is gonna be their biggest drug ever, which implies an, you know, a peak guidance of over $8 billion. I'll remind folks that, you know, we have a double-digit royalty on ORSERDU, if you look at the monotherapy efficacy of giredestrant versus ORSERDU, you cannot tell the difference. The adjuvant studies that was run by Roche is a monotherapy study. ORSERDU's adjuvant study is also a monotherapy study.

Navin Jacob: That'll read out in, call it 2028, roughly. If we say that's the most notable because that's really the driver behind why Roche has called their oral SERD, giredestrant. They have noted that that drug is gonna be their biggest drug ever, which implies an, you know, a peak guidance of over $8 billion. I'll remind folks that, you know, we have a double-digit royalty on ORSERDU, if you look at the monotherapy efficacy of giredestrant versus ORSERDU, you cannot tell the difference. The adjuvant studies that was run by Roche is a monotherapy study. ORSERDU's adjuvant study is also a monotherapy study.

Speaker #3: Which implies a peak guidance of over $8 billion. I'll remind folks that we have a double-digit royalty on Xurdu. If you look at the monotherapy efficacy of Geodestrin versus Xurdu, you cannot tell the difference.

Speaker #3: The adjuvant studies that are being—that were run by Roche—are monotherapy studies. Xurdu's adjuvant study is also a monotherapy study. We'll see how it plays out.

Navin Jacob: We'll see how that plays out, but certainly that was not in our acquisition expectations. The risk reward from a unitholder perspective from relative to our underwriting is skewed significantly to the upside. Now whether that how that plays out and all the other competition that's coming, I'll leave it to you good folks to determine that. It is certainly all skewed to the upside from relative to our underwriting expectations.

Speaker #3: But certainly, that was not in our acquisition expectations. And so, the risk-reward, from a unit holder perspective relative to our underwriting, is skewed significantly to the upside.

Speaker #3: And now whether that how that plays out and all the other competition that's coming I'll leave it to you good folks to determine that.

Speaker #3: But it is certainly all skewed to the upside, relative to our underwriting expectations.

Speaker #4: Understood. Very helpful. Thank you.

Justin Keywood: Understood. Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Les Suluski with True Security. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Les Sulewski with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Hey, this is Jiven on for Les. Thanks for taking our questions. Do you see the new owners of Ectorly as potentially improving the long-term opportunity for the drug?

Dhruva Jeevan Ghosh: Hey, this is Jeevan on for Les. Thanks for taking our questions. Do you see the new owners of Ekterly as potentially improving the long-term opportunity for the drug? Does your optionality tied to the acquisition influence the types of deals that you're prioritizing this year in terms of potentially replacing that exposure? Thank you.

[Analyst] (Truist Securities): Hey, this is Jeevan on for Les. Thanks for taking our questions. Do you see the new owners of Ekterly as potentially improving the long-term opportunity for the drug? Does your optionality tied to the acquisition influence the types of deals that you're prioritizing this year in terms of potentially replacing that exposure? Thank you.

Speaker #5: And does your optionality tied to the acquisition influence the types of deals that you're prioritizing this year in terms of potentially replacing that exposure?

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #6: Hi. It's Ali. I'll let Naveen answer the first question. I think on the second one, look, we haven't really made any determination on in the event of that capital comes our way, how we're going to allocate it.

Ali Hedayat: Hi, it's Ali. I'll let Navin answer the first question. I think on the second one, look, we haven't really made any determination on in the event that that capital comes our way, how we're going to allocate it. I would say it obviously, in conjunction with these debt facilities, opens a door for us to do something more meaningful from a size perspective than we would have otherwise. Beyond that, which is a relatively obvious statement, you know, we haven't really gone through the process of thinking about how we'll allocate it yet.

Speaker #6: I would say it obviously, in conjunction with these debt facilities, opens a door for us to do something more meaningful from a size perspective than we would have otherwise.

Speaker #6: But beyond that, which is a relatively obvious statement, we haven't really gone through the process of thinking about how we'll allocate it yet.

Speaker #3: With regards to, okay, look, they're a well-capitalized company that clearly has ambitions in the rare disease space. They have some experience in the rare disease space.

Navin Jacob: With regards to Chiesi, look, they're a well-capitalized company that clearly has ambitions in the rare disease space. They have some experience in the rare disease space. I suspect they will take on, this is just a guess, but take on a lot of the KalVista folks because they have, KalVista is very specific to HAE, and Chiesi does not have a presence in HAE. The folks at KalVista are very strong from a commercial perspective, from multiple perspectives, but particularly in the commercial setting. We were very excited by what they were capable of doing, and that has been proven out just in the first couple of quarters here. The product has done extremely well.

Speaker #3: I suspect they will take on this is just a guess, take on a lot of the Calvista folks because they have Calvista's very specific to HAE and Kesi does not have a presence in HAE.

Speaker #3: The folks at Calvista are very strong from a commercial perspective, from multiple perspectives. But particularly in the commercial setting, we were very excited by what they were capable of doing.

Speaker #3: And that has been proven out just in the first couple of quarters here. The product has done extremely well, so we're excited in either instance.

Navin Jacob: We're excited in either instance. If there are proceeds that come in from an option exercise, we have a large pipeline. We have a strong proven track record of deploying and doing so through our proven rigorous investment process. You know, the research around KalVista was deep. You know, there was a lot of skepticism on the street side with regards to Ekterly and its opportunity. We thought differently, our research has been proven correct.

Speaker #3: And just if I'll just reiterate with what Ali says and just add to it that if there is capital that comes in, our we have if there are proceeds that come in from an option exercise, we have a large pipeline we have a strong proven track record of deploying and doing so through our proven rigorous investment process.

Speaker #3: The research around Calvista was deep. And there was a lot of skepticism on the street side with regards to Ectorly and its opportunity. We thought differently.

Speaker #3: And our research has been proven correct.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Ash Verma with UBS Financial. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Ash Verma with UBS Financial. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Ash Verma with UBS. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Guys, thanks for taking our question, and congrats on all the progress. Maybe just on the royalty market growth that you mentioned—of, like, 20%—is there some unique dynamic that is driving that in the recent path?

Ashwani Verma: Guys, thanks for taking our question, and congrats on all the progress. Maybe just the royalty market growth that you mentioned of, like, 20%, is there some unique dynamic that is driving that in the recent past? Could it be some of the, you know, the scale-ups that we've seen or new players coming in? Just, like, help us understand how sustainable that is. And then secondly, in terms of, like, where you are right now, in terms of focusing on the portfolio construction going forward, how are you thinking more from a balance of commercial-stage assets versus mid-stage clinical or early-stage clinical? Like, what's the right balance for you going forward? Thanks.

Ash Verma: Guys, thanks for taking our question, and congrats on all the progress. Maybe just the royalty market growth that you mentioned of, like, 20%, is there some unique dynamic that is driving that in the recent past? Could it be some of the, you know, the scale-ups that we've seen or new players coming in? Just, like, help us understand how sustainable that is. And then secondly, in terms of, like, where you are right now, in terms of focusing on the portfolio construction going forward, how are you thinking more from a balance of commercial-stage assets versus mid-stage clinical or early-stage clinical? Like, what's the right balance for you going forward? Thanks.

Speaker #5: Could it be some of the scale-ups that we've seen, or new players coming in? Just help us understand how sustainable that is. And then, secondly, in terms of where you are right now in terms of focusing on the portfolio construction going forward, how are you thinking more from a balance of commercial-stage assets versus mid-stage clinical or early-stage clinical?

Speaker #5: What's the right balance for you going forward? Thanks.

Speaker #6: Hey, Ash. I think on the first question regarding the growth in the market, I'll just repeat what I said, which is I think it's reflective of a greater penetration of royalty as a financing method in the aggregate capital stack of the biotech sector.

Ali Hedayat: Hey, Ash. I think on the first question regarding the growth in the market, I'll just repeat what I said, which is I think it's reflective of a greater penetration of royalty as a financing method in the aggregate capital stack of the biotech sector. I think what you're seeing is more and more people get comfortable with what are the benefits of royalty in lieu of equity or debt or other forms of financing. As you alluded to, obviously, there's concurrently been an increase in supply to some extent of people willing to fund that. I would say the demand for that capital continues to grow ahead or in line with the supply. I think what we're seeing is the asset class penetrate the sector to a greater degree.

Speaker #6: So I think what you're seeing is more and more people get comfortable with what are the benefits of royalty in lieu of equity or debt or other forms of financing.

Speaker #6: And as you alluded to, obviously there's concurrently been an increase in supply, to some extent, of people willing to fund that. But I would say the demand for that capital continues to grow. So I think what we're seeing is the asset class penetrate the sector to a greater degree.

Speaker #6: And yes, there has been some increase of supply of capital as well. But not in a way that, from our perspective, outpaces the increase in demand.

Ali Hedayat: Yes, there has been some increase of supply of capital as well, but not in a way that sort of outpaces from our perspective, the increase in demand. I think in terms of thinking through the portfolio, you know, we're not at this point in time in the early stage business, and I think that's something that, you know, we're unlikely to be in in the near future. I would say when you think about the types of pre-approval deals that we're doing, I think we have proved out a pretty successful methodology there in terms of our transaction structures. We're really happy with, you know, the way we put together the Viridian deal.

Speaker #6: I think in terms of thinking through the portfolio, we're not, at this point in time, in the early-stage business. And I think that's something that we're unlikely to be in, in the near future.

Speaker #6: I would say when you think about the types of pre-approval deals that we're doing, I think we have proved out a pretty successful methodology there in terms of our transaction structures.

Speaker #6: We're really happy with the way we put together the Veridian deal, and I think it provides sort of an archetype of what an ideal transaction in that space would look like going forward.

Ali Hedayat: I think it provides sort of an archetype of, you know, ideal transaction in that space would look like going forward. That said, we're gonna have to, you know, customize and tailor our transactions, as we always do, to meet the need of our counterparties, and that's really one of the big elements of our competitive edge. I think Navneet and the team have done an extraordinary job of matching the interests of unitholders with the ability to get deals done through that customization. When you think about how we balance that out with approved assets, as I said, what we're really targeting is an optimal mix of levered returns over time. I think the pre-approval space, stating the obvious, provides, you know, higher unlevered returns and higher duration.

Speaker #6: That said, we're going to have to customize and tailor our transactions, as we always do, to meet the needs of our counterparties, and that's really one of the big elements of our competitive edge.

Speaker #6: And I think Naveen and the team have done an extraordinary job of matching the interests of unit holders with the ability to get deals done through that customization.

Speaker #6: When you think about how we balance that out with approved assets, as I said, what we're really targeting is an optimal mix of levered returns over time.

Speaker #6: And I think the pre-approval space, stating the obvious, provides higher unlevered returns and higher duration. The approved space, again, stating the obvious, provides maybe a little bit lower duration and lower unlevered returns.

Ali Hedayat: The approved space, again, stating the obvious, provides maybe a little bit lower duration and lower unlevered returns. However, it is more leverageable. I think what you're trying to do is really blend those two things, run them through your balance sheet, and optimize where you sit on the levered return curve, and that's really how we're thinking about it.

Speaker #6: However, it is more leverageable. And I think what you're trying to do is really blend those two things, run them through your balance sheet, and optimize where you sit on the levered return curve.

Speaker #6: And that's really how we're thinking about it.

Speaker #5: Great. Thank you.

Ashwani Verma: Great. Thank you.

Ash Verma: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Luis Chen with Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Louise Chen with Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask you, on Velagrotag—if you do get this product, or Veridian gets this product approved—when will you start recognizing revenue for it?

Louise Chen: Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask you on veligrotug, if you do get this product, or Viridian gets this product approved, when will you start recognizing revenue for it? Is there any milestone payment associated with the approval? Secondly, wanted to ask you on CASGEVY, you know, do you think or how likely do you think it is that you will recognize the fees that you talked about, you know, for this product? If so, when do you think you might see something like that? Thank you.

Speaker #5: And is there any milestone payment associated with the approval? And secondly, wanted to ask you on Casgevy, do you think or how likely do you think it is that you will recognize the fees that you talked about?

Speaker #5: For this product, and if so, when do you think you might see something like that? Thank you.

Speaker #3: On Velagrotag, yes, we have a $75 million milestone payment upon approval. We will start recording royalty income the first quarter it's approved. And the or rather, the first quarter they have sales.

Navin Jacob: Veligrotug, yes, we have a $75 million milestone payment upon approval. We will start re-recording royalty income Q1 it's approved or rather Q1 they have sales. Royalty receipts come in 1 quarter after, there's a 1-quarter lag for the royalty receipts relative to the sales. Casgevy, look, the product is doing well. Vertex is executing well. It's performing roughly 1 to 1.5 years faster than we had anticipated relative to our acquisition forecast. What I'd say is that what we've said before is that, you know, we anticipate sales-based performance fees to start kicking in in H2 of our entitlement, the length of our entitlement, which we have disclosed previously.

Speaker #3: Royalty receipts come in one quarter after. So there's a one-quarter lag for the royalty receipts relative to the sales. On Casgevy, look, the product is doing well.

Speaker #3: Vertex is executing well. It's performing roughly 1 to 1 and a half years faster than we had anticipated relative to our acquisition forecast. And what I just I'd say is that what we've said before is that we anticipate sales-based performance fees to start kicking in in the second half of our entitlement.

Speaker #3: The length of our entitlement, which we have disclosed previously.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Louise Chen: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Tanya Armstrong with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Tania Armstrong-Whitworth with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Operator: Your next question comes from Tania Armstrong with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Good morning. Just speaking to these change control events, are you more likely to see these with pre-approval entitlements? And how does that factor into your return forecasting and risk modeling?

Tania Armstrong-Whitworth: Good morning, guys. Just a couple from me. First off, just speaking to these change of control events, are you more likely to see these with reapproval entitlements? How does that factor into your return forecasting and risk modeling?

Tania Armstrong: Good morning, guys. Just a couple from me. First off, just speaking to these change of control events, are you more likely to see these with reapproval entitlements? How does that factor into your return forecasting and risk modeling?

Speaker #6: Hey, Tanya. I'll let Naveen speak to the general sort of elements of that in deal structure. What I would highlight here we're pretty conscious of balancing effectively the change in control clauses when they are in our agreements with our projected returns.

Ali Hedayat: Tanya. You know, I'll let Navin speak to the, to the general sort of elements of that in deal structure. What I would highlight here, we're pretty conscious of balancing effectively the change in control clauses when they are in our agreements with our projected returns. From an NPV perspective, they're not particularly meaningful in the sense that, you know, we're achieving similar NPVs than we would with the transaction and that's by construct. I think the important factor to think about with these is the compounding effect of bringing in that capital and redeploying it, right? At the transaction level, even if you're NPV neutral, what's happening at the portfolio level is you're bringing forward that capital, and you're able to redeploy it again.

Speaker #6: So from an MPV perspective, they're not particularly meaningful in the sense that we're achieving similar MPVs than we would with the transaction. And that's by construct.

Speaker #6: I think the important factor to think about with these is the compounding effect of bringing in that capital and redeploying it, right? So, at the transaction level, even if you're NPV neutral, what's happening at the portfolio level is you're bringing forward that capital and you're able to redeploy it again.

Ali Hedayat: At the transaction level, even if you're NPV neutral, what's happening at the portfolio level is you're bringing forward that capital, and you're able to redeploy it again. It is more capital stating the obvious because obviously you're getting a multiple. The impact of that is reasonably meaningful as it was in past instances where similar things have happened to us.

Speaker #6: And it's more capital stating the obvious because, obviously, you're getting a multiple. And the impact of that is reasonably meaningful as it was in past instances where similar things have happened to us.

Ali Hedayat: It is more capital stating the obvious because obviously you're getting a multiple. The impact of that is reasonably meaningful as it was in past instances where similar things have happened to us.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you. And then in terms of the investments that you laid out or the planned investments for Q2 to Q4, given your higher EBITDA margins, post-internalization, could you kind of segment where that money is going exactly what lines of the business you're going to be investing in?

David Brown: Okay. Thank you. Then in terms of the investments that you laid out, or the planned investments for Q2 to Q4, given your higher EBITDA margins post-internalization, could you kind of segment, where that money is going, exactly what lines of the business you're gonna be investing in?

Tania Armstrong: Okay. Thank you. Then in terms of the investments that you laid out, or the planned investments for Q2 to Q4, given your higher EBITDA margins post-internalization, could you kind of segment, where that money is going, exactly what lines of the business you're gonna be investing in?

Speaker #3: I think there are a few areas that are relatively straightforward to think through. One is the obvious—people. And I think we continue to look for the best people that we can add to the team across functions, notably on the investing side, but also in other areas of our business.

Ali Hedayat: I think there's a few areas that are, you know, relatively straightforward to think through. One is the obvious of people. I think, you know, we continue to, you know, look for the best people that we can add to the team across functions on, you know, notably on the investing side, but also in other areas of our business. I think maybe one that's a little bit less intuitive is data. I think, you know, the higher margin structure and growth that allows us to really think about a different caliber of data that we can acquire. I think that really helps to enhance the diligence that the team is doing and their ability to do sort of more and more innovative transactions.

Speaker #3: I think maybe one that's a little bit less intuitive is data. And I think the higher margin structure and the growth of the business allows us to really think about a different caliber of data that we can acquire, and I think that really helps to enhance the diligence that the team is doing and their ability to do sort of more and more innovative transactions.

Speaker #3: So I think those are the two big areas that we will focus on. As I said, I think we're doing it in a way that is very thoughtful.

Ali Hedayat: I think those are the two big areas that, you know, we will focus on. As I said, I think, you know, we're doing it in a way that is very thoughtful. Leaving aside the quarter on quarter volatility, I think our margins will sort of stay around current levels or, you know, maybe a point lower or something like that in the medium term. There may be some quarterly cadence where we're reinvesting ahead of revenue growth and, you know, you drop down to the high eighties and then, you know, you go up to the nineties again. Like, I think that range is sort of the right way to think about the business. Obviously for us, we get internalization and the synergies behind it driving top line.

Speaker #3: So, leaving aside the quarter-on-quarter volatility, I think our margins will sort of stay around current levels, maybe a point lower or something like that in the medium term.

Speaker #3: There may be some quarterly cadence where we're reinvesting ahead of revenue growth and you drop down to the high 80s and then you go up to the 90s again.

Speaker #3: But I think that range is sort of the right way to think about the business. But obviously, for us, the key is we get internalization and the synergy behind us driving the top line.

Ali Hedayat: Like, I think that range is sort of the right way to think about the business. Obviously for us, we get internalization and the synergies behind it driving top line. That's really the way we're thinking about the business now.

Speaker #3: That's really the way we're thinking about the business now.

Ali Hedayat: That's really the way we're thinking about the business now.

Speaker #5: Excellent. I'll pass the line.

David Brown: Excellent. I'll pass the line.

Tania Armstrong: Excellent. I'll pass the line.

Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press star one. Your next question comes from Aaron Cobb with CIBC. Your line is now open.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press star one. Your next question comes from Erin Cobb with CIBC. Your line is now open.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press star one. Your next question comes from Erin Kyle with CIBC. Your line is now open.

Speaker #4: Hi. Thank you. Just one question from me. It sounds like there's potential to have a lot more optionality with the actually potential buyback option.

Erin Cobb: Hi. Thank you. Just one question from me. It sounds like there's potential to have a lot more optionality with the potential buyback option, less milestones payable to Viridian, after the phase I or the REVEAL-1 readout, and the debt refinancing. Just with that in mind, I'm just wondering if you can speak to the shape of the pipeline. You know, if there's more near-term opportunities that you're tracking, larger sized deals, just how should we think about your ability to potentially redeploy more capital this year than you potentially could have at the beginning of the year?

Erin Kyle: Hi. Thank you. Just one question from me. It sounds like there's potential to have a lot more optionality with the potential buyback option, less milestones payable to Viridian, after the phase I or the REVEAL-1 readout, and the debt refinancing. Just with that in mind, I'm just wondering if you can speak to the shape of the pipeline. You know, if there's more near-term opportunities that you're tracking, larger sized deals, just how should we think about your ability to potentially redeploy more capital this year than you potentially could have at the beginning of the year?

Speaker #4: Less milestones payable to Veridian after the phase one reveal one readout. And the debt refinancing. So just with that in mind, I'm just wondering if you can speak to the shape of the pipeline.

Speaker #4: If there's more near-term opportunities that you're tracking, larger-sized deals, just how should we think about your ability to potentially redeploy more capital this year than you potentially could have at the beginning of the year?

Speaker #3: I think the big change is in the scope of what sorry, go ahead, Naveen.

Ali Hedayat: I think the big change.

Navin Jacob: Um-

Ali Hedayat: Sorry, go ahead, Navin.

Speaker #4: No, I was just going to say Aaron, we've a lot has been happening over the last month, month and a half. A couple of changes that, as you noted, bring in more capacity than we had anticipated at the beginning of the year.

Navin Jacob: No, I was just gonna say, Erin, you know, we've a lot has been happening over the last month and a half. A couple of changes that, as you noted, bring in more capacity than we had anticipated at the beginning of the year. Between the tremendous job that Ali and Babak Farahmand, our head of our EVP, head of Risk Ops have done with regards to our refinancing and strengthening of the balance sheet. As well as the milestone that we're not paying out for Reveal, for the Reveal studies, as well as some optionality here that may come. That has, as you noted very rightly, that changes our potential capacity. We are continuing to assess.

Speaker #4: Between the tremendous job that Ali and Baba Karamand are ahead of our EVP out of RiskOps have done, with regards to our refinancing of and strengthening of the balance sheet, as well as the milestone that we're not paying out for Reveal.

Speaker #4: For the reveal studies, as well as some optionality here, that may come—that has, as you noted very rightly, that changes are potential capacity.

Speaker #4: And so we are continuing to assess. We have a very large pipeline, but as you've seen us do, we're highly methodical in our approach to constructing a portfolio that balances the our ability to refinance as well as provide growth long-term growth to unit holders.

Navin Jacob: We have a very large pipeline. As you've seen us do, we're highly methodical in our approach to constructing a portfolio that balances the our ability to refinance as well as provide long-term growth to unitholders. We wanna do so in a way that creates value. We're gonna be extremely disciplined, and we're not gonna put out artificial timelines, and push just for the sake of pushing. Rather do so in a way that's extremely well thought out. We've guided to not to expect a transaction till H2 of the year. I'll reiterate that.

Speaker #4: And we want to do so in a way that creates value. So we're going to be extremely disciplined and we're not going to put out artificial timelines and push just for the sake of pushing, but rather do so in a way that's extremely well thought out.

Speaker #4: We've guided to not to expect transaction until the second half of the year. I'll reiterate that and especially since we do have more options than we initially thought at the beginning of the year.

Navin Jacob: Especially since we do have more options than we initially thought at the beginning of the year, you know, I would suggest anticipating a transaction towards the later bit of H2 of this year.

Speaker #4: I would suggest anticipating a transaction towards the latter part of the second half of this year.

Speaker #3: And Aaron, I'll just chime in there and say probably the most important thing is just the change in scope of what we can contemplate given this.

Ali Hedayat: Erin, I'll just chime in there and say, you know, probably the most important thing is just a change in scope of what we can contemplate given this. I think we may opt to use that scope, or we may just opt to do more of the types of things that we were contemplating doing earlier in the year, more dollars of that. It also opens the door for, I would say, something a bit broader and, potentially more, more ambitious. You know, whether or not we choose to do that, I think, will, you know, depend on the various options that we have in the pipeline. It just gives us a range of potential actions that, were more difficult to contemplate before this happened.

Speaker #3: And I think we may opt to use that scope or we may just opt to do more of the types of things that we were contemplating doing earlier in the year.

Speaker #3: More dollars of that. But it also opens a door for, I would say, something a bit broader and potentially more ambitious. But whether or not we choose to do that, I think will depend on the various options that we have in the pipeline.

Speaker #3: But it just gives us a range of potential actions that were more difficult to contemplate before this happened.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Erin Cobb: Thank you.

Erin Kyle: Thank you.

Speaker #1: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Ali for closing remarks.

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Ali for closing remarks.

Speaker #3: Great. Thank you, everyone, for joining us. And thank you again to the DRI team for your hard work in putting up another great quarter.

Ali Hedayat: Great. Thank you everyone for joining us, and thank you again for the DRI team, for your hard work and putting up another great quarter. We look forward to speaking with all of you again in August for our Q2. Thanks.

Speaker #3: We look forward to speaking with all of you again in August for our second quarter. Thanks.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.