Q1 2026 Summit Midstream Corp Earnings Call
Operator 2: Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Summit Midstream Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star one one on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, simply press star one one again. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. Now I'd like to introduce your host of today's program, Randall Burton, treasurer and investor relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Operator: Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Summit Midstream Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you'll need to press star one one on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, simply press star one one again. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. Now I'd like to introduce your host of today's program, Randall Burton, treasurer and investor relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker #2: Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Summit Midstream First Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are listen-only mode.
Speaker #2: After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during this session, you'll need to press star 11 on your telephone.
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Speaker #2: And now I'd like to introduce your host of today's program, Randall Burton, Treasurer and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.
Randall Burton: Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. If you don't already have a copy of our earnings release, please visit our website at summitmidstream.com where you'll find it on the homepage, events and presentation section or quarterly results section. With me today to discuss our Q1 2026 financial and operating results is Heath Deneke, our President, Chief Executive Officer, and Chairman, Bill Maule, our Chief Financial Officer, and Chris Tennant, our Chief Commercial Officer, along with other members of our senior management team. Before we start, I'd like to remind you that our discussion today may contain forward-looking statements. These statements may include, but are not limited to, our estimates of future volumes, operating expenses, and capital expenditures. They may also include statements concerning anticipated cash flow, liquidity, business strategy, and other plans and objectives for future operations.
Randall Burton: Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. If you don't already have a copy of our earnings release, please visit our website at summitmidstream.com where you'll find it on the homepage, events and presentation section or quarterly results section. With me today to discuss our Q1 2026 financial and operating results is Heath Deneke, our President, Chief Executive Officer, and Chairman, Bill Maule, our Chief Financial Officer, and Chris Tennant, our Chief Commercial Officer, along with other members of our senior management team. Before we start, I'd like to remind you that our discussion today may contain forward-looking statements. These statements may include, but are not limited to, our estimates of future volumes, operating expenses, and capital expenditures. They may also include statements concerning anticipated cash flow, liquidity, business strategy, and other plans and objectives for future operations.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Operator, and good morning, everyone. If you don't already have a copy of our earnings release, please visit our website at summitmidstream.com. You will find it on the homepage, in the Events and Presentations section, or the Quarterly Results section.
Speaker #3: With me today to discuss our first quarter 2026 financial and operating results is Heath Deneke, our President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman, Bill Mault, our Chief Financial Officer, and Chris Tenet, our Chief Commercial Officer, along with other members of our senior management team.
Speaker #3: Before we start, I'd like to remind you that our discussion today may contain forward-looking statements. These statements may include but are not limited to our estimates of future volumes, operating expenses, and capital expenditures.
Speaker #3: They may also include statements concerning anticipated cash flow, liquidity, business strategy, and other plans and objectives for future operations. Although we believe that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, we can provide no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct.
Randall Burton: Although we believe that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, we can provide no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. Please see SMC's annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended 31 December 2025, which the company filed with the SEC on 16 March 2026, as well as our other SEC filings for a listing of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expected results. Please also note that on this call we use the terms EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, distributable cash flow, and free cash flow. These are non-GAAP financial measures, and we have provided reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our most recent earnings release. With that, I'll turn the call over to Heath.
Randall Burton: Although we believe that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, we can provide no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. Please see SMC's annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended 31 December 2025, which the company filed with the SEC on 16 March 2026, as well as our other SEC filings for a listing of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expected results. Please also note that on this call we use the terms EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, distributable cash flow, and free cash flow. These are non-GAAP financial measures, and we have provided reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our most recent earnings release. With that, I'll turn the call over to Heath.
Speaker #3: Please see SMC's annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2025, which was which the company filed with the SEC on March 16, 2026, as well as our other SEC filings for a listing of factors that cause actual results to defer materially from expected results.
Speaker #3: Please also note that on this call, we use the terms EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA, distributable cash flow, and free cash flow. These are non-GAAP financial measures, and we provide a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our most recent earnings release.
Speaker #3: And with that, I'll turn the call over to Heath.
J. Heath Deneke: Thanks, Randall. Good morning, everyone. Summit reported Q1 2026 adjusted EBITDA of $54.2 million, which was generally in line with expectations despite lower volumes and realized residue gas prices in the Arkoma. The underperformance in the MidCon segment was partially offset by gains in the Rockies Segment, driven by higher than budgeted crude oil pricing. Based on the current activity levels, the recent well performance and our visibility in the H2 volumes, we continue to expect results to trend towards the midpoint of our original 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance of $225 million to $265 million. Before I get into the operational highlights, I wanted to spend a moment on the macro picture, which we see becoming increasingly constructive for Summit.
Heath Deneke: Thanks, Randall. Good morning, everyone. Summit reported Q1 2026 adjusted EBITDA of $54.2 million, which was generally in line with expectations despite lower volumes and realized residue gas prices in the Arkoma. The underperformance in the MidCon segment was partially offset by gains in the Rockies Segment, driven by higher than budgeted crude oil pricing. Based on the current activity levels, the recent well performance and our visibility in the H2 volumes, we continue to expect results to trend towards the midpoint of our original 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance of $225 million to $265 million. Before I get into the operational highlights, I wanted to spend a moment on the macro picture, which we see becoming increasingly constructive for Summit.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Randall, and good morning, everyone. Summit reported first quarter 2026 adjusted EBITDA of 54.2 million, which was generally in line with expectations despite lower volumes and realized residue gas prices in the Aracoma.
Speaker #4: The underperformance in the Midcon segment was partially offset by gains in the Rocky segment, driven by higher-than-budgeted crude oil pricing. So based on the current activity levels, the recent well performance, and our visibility in the second half of the year volumes, we continue to expect results to trend towards the midpoint of our original 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance of 225 million to 265 million.
Speaker #4: Before I get into the operational highlights, I wanted to spend a moment on the macro picture, which we see becoming increasingly constructive for Summit.
J. Heath Deneke: Crude oil prices are obviously much higher than the lows we saw earlier this year. For a business like ours, where roughly 80% of our well connects in 2026 are expected in crude oil-oriented basins, a more constructive crude environment translates directly into improved producer economics and an incentive to accelerate and increase activity levels. Several of our Rockies customers have communicated that they are actively working on plans to attempt to accelerate activity into 2026 and increase overall activity levels in 2027. We're also seeing benefits from higher crude oil pricing on our field condensate sales and our optimization activities in the Rockies segment. At the same time, the natural gas outlook remains favorable as well. Henry Hub has remained constructive.
Heath Deneke: Crude oil prices are obviously much higher than the lows we saw earlier this year. For a business like ours, where roughly 80% of our well connects in 2026 are expected in crude oil-oriented basins, a more constructive crude environment translates directly into improved producer economics and an incentive to accelerate and increase activity levels. Several of our Rockies customers have communicated that they are actively working on plans to attempt to accelerate activity into 2026 and increase overall activity levels in 2027. We're also seeing benefits from higher crude oil pricing on our field condensate sales and our optimization activities in the Rockies segment. At the same time, the natural gas outlook remains favorable as well. Henry Hub has remained constructive.
Speaker #4: Crude oil prices are obviously much higher than the lows we saw earlier this year, and for a business like ours, we're roughly 80% of our well connects in 2026 are expected in crude oil or in a basins.
Speaker #4: And more constructive crude environment translates directly into improved producer economics and an incentive to accelerate and increase activity levels. Some of our Rockies customers have communicated that they are actively working on plans to attempt to accelerate activity into 2026 and increase overall activity levels in 2027.
Speaker #4: We're also seeing benefits from higher crude oil pricing on our field condensate sales and our optimization activities in the Rockies segment. At the same time, the natural gas outlook remains favorable as well.
Speaker #4: Henry Hub has remained constructive; LNG export demand continues to grow rapidly, and the long-term demand outlook from data center growth and electrification is increasingly supportive of the natural gas infrastructure we operate in our Midcon and Permian segments.
J. Heath Deneke: LNG export demand continues to grow rapidly, the long-term demand outlook from data center growth and electrification is increasingly supportive of the natural gas infrastructure we operate in our MidCon Segment and Permian Segment. For our MidCon Segment, that is a great backdrop to see activity levels pick up in the coming years in both the Arkoma and the Barnett, as these assets are very well positioned on the natural gas pipeline grid to feed LNG and power markets along the Gulf Coast. The macro outlook is also very supportive of increasing demand for our Double E Pipeline in the Permian Segment that transports residue gas from multiple processing facilities throughout the core of the Delaware Basin to the Waha hub, which then connects to more than 20 Bcf a day of eastern-bound gas infrastructure that serves the East Texas and Louisiana Gulf Coast markets.
Heath Deneke: LNG export demand continues to grow rapidly, the long-term demand outlook from data center growth and electrification is increasingly supportive of the natural gas infrastructure we operate in our MidCon Segment and Permian Segment. For our MidCon Segment, that is a great backdrop to see activity levels pick up in the coming years in both the Arkoma and the Barnett, as these assets are very well positioned on the natural gas pipeline grid to feed LNG and power markets along the Gulf Coast. The macro outlook is also very supportive of increasing demand for our Double E Pipeline in the Permian Segment that transports residue gas from multiple processing facilities throughout the core of the Delaware Basin to the Waha hub, which then connects to more than 20 Bcf a day of eastern-bound gas infrastructure that serves the East Texas and Louisiana Gulf Coast markets.
Speaker #4: For our Midcon segment, that is a great backdrop to see activity levels pick up in the coming years in both the Aracoma and the Barnett.
Speaker #4: As these assets are very well positioned on the natural gas pipeline grid, to feed LNG and power markets along the Gulf Coast. The macro outlook is also very supportive of increasing demand for our double E gas pipeline in the Permian that transports residue gas from multiple processing facilities throughout the core of the Delaware Basin to the Waha Hub, which then connects to more than 20 BCF a day of eastern-bound gas infrastructure that serves the East Texas and Louisiana Gulf Coast markets.
J. Heath Deneke: Turning to operations, we connected 37 wells during the quarter, including the first 4 Williston wells under the new 10-year crude gathering agreement that we announced last quarter in Divide County. Early production results from those wells have been encouraging. In Arkoma, while we did experience lower than expected well performance from 2 pads during the quarter, which was a primary driver of the volume underperformance in that segment, both of these pads were drilled in the outer edges of our dedicated acreage footprint in an attempt to further extend the boundaries of proven but undeveloped locations in the Canyon Woodford formations. Recently, though, we have brought on a new 3-well pad in the dry gas area of our Arkoma system, and we're seeing these wells significantly outperform our internal expectations.
Heath Deneke: Turning to operations, we connected 37 wells during the quarter, including the first 4 Williston wells under the new 10-year crude gathering agreement that we announced last quarter in Divide County. Early production results from those wells have been encouraging. In Arkoma, while we did experience lower than expected well performance from 2 pads during the quarter, which was a primary driver of the volume underperformance in that segment, both of these pads were drilled in the outer edges of our dedicated acreage footprint in an attempt to further extend the boundaries of proven but undeveloped locations in the Canyon Woodford formations. Recently, though, we have brought on a new 3-well pad in the dry gas area of our Arkoma system, and we're seeing these wells significantly outperform our internal expectations.
Speaker #4: Turning to operations, we connected 37 wells during the quarter, including the first four Williston wells under the new 10-year crude gathering agreement that we announced last quarter in Divide County.
Speaker #4: Early production results from those wells have been encouraging. In the Aracoma, while we did experience lower-than-expected well performance from two pads during the quarter, which was a primary driver of the volume underperformance in that segment, but both of these pads were drilled in the outer edges of our dedicated acreage footprint in an attempt to further extend the boundaries of proven but undeveloped locations in the Canyon, Woodford formations.
Speaker #4: Recently, though, we have brought on a new three well pad in the dry gas area of our Aracoma system, and we're seeing these wells significantly outperform our internal expectations.
J. Heath Deneke: These three wells continue to ramp up but have already averaged approximately 50 million a day combined over the past couple of days since being turned in line, which is a very encouraging, early read. It really gets us excited about future growth in the MidCon segment. We currently have 5 rigs running behind the system with approximately 80 drilled but uncompleted wells. We expect approximately 40 new well connects in Q2, including 20 in the MidCon segment. That Q2 activity and well results from some of the wells already connected in Q2 sets up a very meaningful volume increase as we move into the back H2 of the year.
Heath Deneke: These three wells continue to ramp up but have already averaged approximately 50 million a day combined over the past couple of days since being turned in line, which is a very encouraging, early read. It really gets us excited about future growth in the MidCon segment. We currently have 5 rigs running behind the system with approximately 80 drilled but uncompleted wells. We expect approximately 40 new well connects in Q2, including 20 in the MidCon segment. That Q2 activity and well results from some of the wells already connected in Q2 sets up a very meaningful volume increase as we move into the back H2 of the year.
Speaker #4: These three wells continue to ramp up, but have already averaged approximately 50 million a day combined over the past couple of days since being turned in line, which is a very encouraging early read and it really gets us excited about future growth in the Midcon segment.
Speaker #4: We currently have five rigs running behind the system with approximately 80 drilled but uncomplete wells. And we expect approximately 40 new well connects in the second quarter, including 20 in the Midcon segment.
Speaker #4: That second quarter activity and well results from some of the wells already connected in the second quarter sets up a very meaningful volume increase as we move into the back half of the year.
J. Heath Deneke: On the Double E front, subsequent to the quarter end, we executed another 10-year take or pay precedent agreement for 100 million a day of firm capacity, which is slated to start in H1 2027. That brings our total contracted volumes on Double E to just over 1.7 Bcf a day, and we continue to build momentum in our ongoing open season to secure additional commitments to support the previously announced 800 million a day midpoint compressor expansion project. Given the market interest that we've seen thus far, we remain very optimistic about securing additional contracts that are necessary to help us make a final investment decision on the project this summer. We also made meaningful progress to further simplify and improve the balance sheet this quarter.
Heath Deneke: On the Double E front, subsequent to the quarter end, we executed another 10-year take or pay precedent agreement for 100 million a day of firm capacity, which is slated to start in H1 2027. That brings our total contracted volumes on Double E to just over 1.7 Bcf a day, and we continue to build momentum in our ongoing open season to secure additional commitments to support the previously announced 800 million a day midpoint compressor expansion project. Given the market interest that we've seen thus far, we remain very optimistic about securing additional contracts that are necessary to help us make a final investment decision on the project this summer. We also made meaningful progress to further simplify and improve the balance sheet this quarter.
Speaker #4: On the double E front, subsequent to the quarter end, we executed another 10-year take-or-pay proceeding agreement for 100 million a day of firm capacity, which is slated to start in the first half of '27.
Speaker #4: That brings our total contracted volumes on double E to just over 1.7 BCF a day, and we continue to build momentum in our ongoing open season to secure additional commitments to support the previously announced 800 million a day midpoint compressor expansion project.
Speaker #4: Given the market interest that we've seen thus far, we remain very optimistic about securing additional contracts that are necessary to help us make a final investment decision on the project this summer.
Speaker #4: We also made meaningful progress to further simplify and improve the balance sheet this quarter. We were paid all 45 million of accrued Series A preferred stock dividends, which clears a key milestone on the path to reinstate a common dividend.
J. Heath Deneke: We repaid all $45 million of accrued Series A preferred stock dividends, which clears a key milestone on the path to reinstate a common dividend. We completed a $42 million private placement of common stock to an affiliate of Tailwater Capital, our largest shareholder, which will help us fund high return organic growth projects across our operating footprint. Finally, we closed the Summit Permian Transmission term loan refinancing, which provides the financial flexibility to fund Double E capital growth while we continue to delever Summit's corporate balance sheet. With that update, let me turn it over to Bill Maule to walk through the details on the financials.
Heath Deneke: We repaid all $45 million of accrued Series A preferred stock dividends, which clears a key milestone on the path to reinstate a common dividend. We completed a $42 million private placement of common stock to an affiliate of Tailwater Capital, our largest shareholder, which will help us fund high return organic growth projects across our operating footprint. Finally, we closed the Summit Permian Transmission term loan refinancing, which provides the financial flexibility to fund Double E capital growth while we continue to delever Summit's corporate balance sheet. With that update, let me turn it over to Bill Maule to walk through the details on the financials.
Speaker #4: We completed a 42 million private placement of common stock to an affiliate of Telewater Capital, our largest shareholder, which will help us fund high-return organic growth projects across our operating footprint.
Speaker #4: And finally, we closed the Summit Permian Transmission term loan refinancing which provides the financial flexibility to fund double E capital growth while we continue to de-leverage Summit's corporate balance sheet.
Speaker #4: So, with that update, let me turn it over to Bill to walk through the details on the financials.
William Mault: Thanks, Heath, good morning, everyone. Summit reported Q1 2026 adjusted EBITDA of $54.2 million, distributable cash flow of $26.9 million, and free cash flow of $11.4 million. Total capital expenditures were $19.3 million for the quarter, inclusive of $3.7 million of maintenance capital, with the majority of the growth capital directed towards pad connections in the Rockies and MidCon segments. With respect to Summit's balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $43.4 million of unrestricted cash and $116 million drawn on our revolving credit facility, with approximately $381 million of available borrowing capacity after accounting for $2.7 million of undrawn letters of credit. Moving on to the segments.
Bill Mault: Thanks, Heath, good morning, everyone. Summit reported Q1 2026 adjusted EBITDA of $54.2 million, distributable cash flow of $26.9 million, and free cash flow of $11.4 million. Total capital expenditures were $19.3 million for the quarter, inclusive of $3.7 million of maintenance capital, with the majority of the growth capital directed towards pad connections in the Rockies and MidCon segments. With respect to Summit's balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $43.4 million of unrestricted cash and $116 million drawn on our revolving credit facility, with approximately $381 million of available borrowing capacity after accounting for $2.7 million of undrawn letters of credit. Moving on to the segments.
Speaker #3: Thanks, East, and good morning, everyone. Summit reported first quarter 2026 adjusted EBITDA 54.2 million, distributable cash flow of 26.9 million, and free cash flow of 11.4 million.
Speaker #3: Total capital expenditures were 19.3 million for the quarter, inclusive of 3.7 million of maintenance capital. With the majority of the growth capital directed towards pad connections in the Rockies and Midcon segments.
Speaker #3: With respect to Summit's balance sheet, we ended the quarter with 43.4 million of unrestricted cash and 116 million drawn on our revolving credit facility.
Speaker #3: With approximately 381 million of available borrowing capacity after accounting for 2.7 million of undrawn letters of credit. Now moving on to the segments, the Rockies segment generated adjusted EBITDA of 26.4 million, a decrease of 1.5 million relative to the fourth quarter of 2025, primarily due to a 1.2 million non-cash imbalance, a 3% reduction in liquids volumes, lower realized residue gas prices on our percentage of proceeds contracts, and lower fresh water sales.
William Mault: The Rockies Segment generated adjusted EBITDA of $26.4 million, a decrease of $1.5 million relative to Q4 2025, primarily due to a $1.2 million non-cash imbalance, a 3% reduction in liquids volumes, a lower realized residue gas prices on our percentage-of-proceeds contracts, and lower fresh water sales. This was partially offset by a 4.4% increase in natural gas volume throughput and improving crude oil and NGL prices that really started in March 2026. We connected 18 wells in the DJ Basin and 13 in the Williston, including the first 4 three-mile lateral wells under the new crude gathering agreement that we announced last quarter.
Bill Mault: The Rockies Segment generated adjusted EBITDA of $26.4 million, a decrease of $1.5 million relative to Q4 2025, primarily due to a $1.2 million non-cash imbalance, a 3% reduction in liquids volumes, a lower realized residue gas prices on our percentage-of-proceeds contracts, and lower fresh water sales. This was partially offset by a 4.4% increase in natural gas volume throughput and improving crude oil and NGL prices that really started in March 2026. We connected 18 wells in the DJ Basin and 13 in the Williston, including the first 4 three-mile lateral wells under the new crude gathering agreement that we announced last quarter.
Speaker #3: This was partially offset by a 4.4% increase in natural gas volume throughput and improving crude oil and NGL prices that really started in March of '26.
Speaker #3: We connected 18 wells in the DJ Basin and 13 in the Williston, including the first four three-mile lateral wells under the new crude gathering agreement that we announced last quarter.
William Mault: 5 rigs are currently running with approximately 60 DUCs behind the systems. Several customers are working to try to accelerate their programs given the improved crude oil price environment. The Permian Segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $8.7 million, flat relative to Q4 2025. Double E volumes averaged 805 million cubic feet per day during the quarter. The Piceance segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $9.6 million, down $0.4 million from Q4, primarily driven by volume throughput declines of approximately 7.3%, which included 8 million cubic feet per day of temporary shut-ins, as well as natural production declines, with no new wells connected during the quarter.
Bill Mault: 5 rigs are currently running with approximately 60 DUCs behind the systems. Several customers are working to try to accelerate their programs given the improved crude oil price environment. The Permian Segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $8.7 million, flat relative to Q4 2025. Double E volumes averaged 805 million cubic feet per day during the quarter. The Piceance segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $9.6 million, down $0.4 million from Q4, primarily driven by volume throughput declines of approximately 7.3%, which included 8 million cubic feet per day of temporary shut-ins, as well as natural production declines, with no new wells connected during the quarter.
Speaker #3: Five rigs are currently running with approximately 60 ducts behind the system and several customers are working to try to accelerate their programs given the improved crude oil price environment.
Speaker #3: The Permian segment reported adjusted EBITDA of 8.7 million, flat relative to the fourth quarter of 2025, and double E volumes averaged 805 million cubic feet per day during the quarter.
Speaker #3: The Peon segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $9.6 million, down $0.4 million from the fourth quarter, primarily driven by volume throughput declines of approximately 7.3%, which included 8 million cubic feet per day of temporary shut-ins as well as natural production declines.
Speaker #3: With no new wells connected during the quarter. Customers currently have approximately 20 million cubic feet per day of volume shut-in as a result of low regional gas prices, primarily in the White River Hub, and based on current forward prices in the region, we would expect that production to resume beginning in the third quarter of 2026.
William Mault: Customers currently have approximately 20 million cubic feet per day of volume shut in as a result of low regional gas prices, primarily in the White River hub. Based on current forward prices in the region, we would expect that production to resume beginning in Q3 2026. Finally, the MidCon segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $19.3 million, a decrease of $2.1 million from Q4, primarily driven by natural production declines, partially offset by 6 new Arkoma well connections during the quarter. 3 additional Arkoma wells were connected subsequent to quarter end, and we have 17 Barnett DUCs expected to come online in Q2. We expect Q2 activity and recently connected wells to drive an increase in MidCon volumes as we move throughout the remainder of the year.
Bill Mault: Customers currently have approximately 20 million cubic feet per day of volume shut in as a result of low regional gas prices, primarily in the White River hub. Based on current forward prices in the region, we would expect that production to resume beginning in Q3 2026. Finally, the MidCon segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $19.3 million, a decrease of $2.1 million from Q4, primarily driven by natural production declines, partially offset by 6 new Arkoma well connections during the quarter. 3 additional Arkoma wells were connected subsequent to quarter end, and we have 17 Barnett DUCs expected to come online in Q2. We expect Q2 activity and recently connected wells to drive an increase in MidCon volumes as we move throughout the remainder of the year.
Speaker #3: Finally, the Midcon segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $19.3 million, a decrease of $2.1 million from the fourth quarter, primarily driven by natural production declines, partially offset by six new Arcoma well connections during the quarter.
Speaker #3: Three additional Arcoma wells were connected subsequent to quarter end, and we have 17 Barnett ducts expected to come online in the second quarter. We expect second quarter activity and recently connected wells to drive an increase in Midcon volumes as we move throughout the remainder of the year.
William Mault: With that, I'll turn the call back over to Heath for closing remarks.
Bill Mault: With that, I'll turn the call back over to Heath for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Heath for closing remarks.
J. Heath Deneke: Thanks, Bill. To summarize, you know, we're still tracking towards the $245 million midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance for 2026, and we continue to see a lot of momentum building across the portfolio in response to the improving commodity price outlook. We remain excited about the growth outlook for the business and believe the current macro outlook supports more than $100 million of organic EBITDA growth from our existing portfolio by 2030. We continue to be active on the M&A front, evaluating opportunities that could further scale up the business in a value and credit-accretive manner. We've also taken meaningful steps to further simplify and improve the balance sheet by cleaning up the accrued preferred dividends, completing the Tailwater common stock placement, and closing the Permian transmission refinancing to support Double E growth.
Heath Deneke: Thanks, Bill. To summarize, you know, we're still tracking towards the $245 million midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance for 2026, and we continue to see a lot of momentum building across the portfolio in response to the improving commodity price outlook. We remain excited about the growth outlook for the business and believe the current macro outlook supports more than $100 million of organic EBITDA growth from our existing portfolio by 2030. We continue to be active on the M&A front, evaluating opportunities that could further scale up the business in a value and credit-accretive manner. We've also taken meaningful steps to further simplify and improve the balance sheet by cleaning up the accrued preferred dividends, completing the Tailwater common stock placement, and closing the Permian transmission refinancing to support Double E growth.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Bill. So to summarize, we're still tracking towards the 245 million midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance for '26, and we continue to see a lot of momentum building across the portfolio in response to the improving commodity price outlook.
Speaker #1: We remain excited about the growth outlook for the business and believe the current macro outlook supports more than 100 million of organic EBITDA growth from our existing portfolio by 2030.
Speaker #1: We continue to be active on the M&A front, evaluating opportunities that could further scale up the business in a value and credit accretive manner.
Speaker #1: We've also taken meaningful steps to further simplify and improve the balance sheet by cleaning up the accrued preferred dividends, completing the Telewater common stock placement, and closing the Permian Transmission refinancing to support double E growth.
J. Heath Deneke: Finally, as we execute the business plan, we continue to have a line of sight on achieving our long-term 3.5x leverage target and being in a position to reinstate a common dividend in the near future. We believe there's a pretty simple and achievable path forward to drive a lot of shareholder value in the coming years, and we're excited to get out on the road in the coming weeks as a management team to continue to tell the Summit story and continue to build momentum with investors. With that, I'd like to thank everyone again for joining the call today and supporting the business. Operator, I think we can open up the call for questions now.
Heath Deneke: Finally, as we execute the business plan, we continue to have a line of sight on achieving our long-term 3.5x leverage target and being in a position to reinstate a common dividend in the near future. We believe there's a pretty simple and achievable path forward to drive a lot of shareholder value in the coming years, and we're excited to get out on the road in the coming weeks as a management team to continue to tell the Summit story and continue to build momentum with investors. With that, I'd like to thank everyone again for joining the call today and supporting the business. Operator, I think we can open up the call for questions now.
Speaker #1: And finally, as we execute the business plan, we continue to have a line of sight on achieving our long-term three-and-a-half-times leverage target and being in a position to reinstate a common dividend in the near future.
Speaker #1: We believe there's a pretty simple and achievable path forward to drive a lot of shareholder value in the coming years, and we're excited to get out on the road in the coming weeks as a management team to continue to tell the Summit story and continue to build momentum with investors.
Speaker #1: So with that, I'd like to thank everyone again for joining the call today and supporting the business, and operator, I think we can open up the call for questions now.
Operator 2: Certainly. As a reminder, if you do have a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Reichman from Noble Capital Markets. Your question, please.
Operator: Certainly. As a reminder, if you do have a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Reichman from Noble Capital Markets. Your question, please.
Speaker #4: Certainly. And as a reminder, if you do have a question at this time, please press star 11 on your telephone. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Richman from Noble Capital Markets.
Speaker #4: Your question, please.
Mark Reichman: Thanks. Would you please discuss the competitive positioning of the Double E Pipeline? Are you seeing increasing demand for incremental takeaway capacity tied to LNG's export growth? Could Double E ultimately require additional expansion phases beyond what's currently contemplated?
Mark Reichman: Thanks. Would you please discuss the competitive positioning of the Double E Pipeline? Are you seeing increasing demand for incremental takeaway capacity tied to LNG's export growth? Could Double E ultimately require additional expansion phases beyond what's currently contemplated?
Speaker #3: Thanks. Would you please discuss the competitive positioning of the double E pipeline? Are you seeing increasing demand for incremental takeaway capacity tied to LNG's export growth and could double E ultimately require additional expansion phases beyond what's currently contemplated?
J. Heath Deneke: Yeah. Yeah, you bet, Mark. Hey, this is Heath. In terms of competitive position, I think, you know, Double E is in a pretty good shape on that front, honestly. We if you look at what's occurred with the build out of the Delaware, in terms of rig activity and where we've really seen volumes grow, they kind of started in Texas and have kind of migrated their way up to New Mexico. A lot of the, in fact, I'd say the vast majority, if not all, of the other pipelines that we compete with have really kind of filled up their existing takeaway capacity.
Heath Deneke: Yeah. Yeah, you bet, Mark. Hey, this is Heath. In terms of competitive position, I think, you know, Double E is in a pretty good shape on that front, honestly. We if you look at what's occurred with the build out of the Delaware, in terms of rig activity and where we've really seen volumes grow, they kind of started in Texas and have kind of migrated their way up to New Mexico. A lot of the, in fact, I'd say the vast majority, if not all, of the other pipelines that we compete with have really kind of filled up their existing takeaway capacity.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Yeah. You bet, Mark. Hey, this is Heath. Look, as far as the competitive position, I think double E is in a pretty good shape on that front, honestly.
Speaker #5: If you look at what's occurred with the build-out of the Delaware in terms of rig activity and where we've really seen volumes grow, they kind of started in Texas and have kind of migrated their way up to the New Mexico.
Speaker #5: And a lot of the in fact, I'd say the vast majority, if not all, of the other pipelines that we compete with have really kind of filled up their existing takeaway capacity.
J. Heath Deneke: In many cases, they've kind of gotten past the cheap, you know, easy to expand compression type projects, and have Now for them to materially expand capacity, they're looking at, you know, laying brand new greenfield or big loops, if you will, to their system to get existing capacity. I think we're well positioned, having, you know, recently just filled up our latent, our free flow capacity. I think this expansion that we're in the midst of, on an open season, adding another call it 800 to 900 million a day of capacity.
Heath Deneke: In many cases, they've kind of gotten past the cheap, you know, easy to expand compression type projects, and have Now for them to materially expand capacity, they're looking at, you know, laying brand new greenfield or big loops, if you will, to their system to get existing capacity. I think we're well positioned, having, you know, recently just filled up our latent, our free flow capacity. I think this expansion that we're in the midst of, on an open season, adding another call it 800 to 900 million a day of capacity.
Speaker #5: In many cases, they've kind of gotten past the cheap, easy-to-expand compression-type projects and have now, for them to materially expand capacity, they're looking at laying brand new greenfield or big loops, if you will, to their system to get existing capacity.
Speaker #5: So I think we're well positioned having the recently just filled up our latent or our free-flow capacity. I think this expansion that we're in the midst of on an open season adding another call it 8 to 190 8 to 900 million a day of capacity I think we're really one of the only options in town, frankly, that we think can be available by the end of 2028 to meet a lot of this incremental residue gas growth that we see in the Permian Basin.
J. Heath Deneke: I think, you know, we're really one of the only options in town, frankly, that we think can be available by the end of 2028 to meet a lot of this incremental residue gas growth that we see in the Permian Basin. We feel strongly about that. I will say, just looking at our rates relative to, you know, other tariffs and the like, we're certainly at market rates with what we, you know, what we sell our capacity for on Double E. I think what really kind of gives us the advantage is the low cost expandability that we still have remaining on the pipe, and the ability to bring that to market in fairly short order.
Heath Deneke: I think, you know, we're really one of the only options in town, frankly, that we think can be available by the end of 2028 to meet a lot of this incremental residue gas growth that we see in the Permian Basin. We feel strongly about that. I will say, just looking at our rates relative to, you know, other tariffs and the like, we're certainly at market rates with what we, you know, what we sell our capacity for on Double E. I think what really kind of gives us the advantage is the low cost expandability that we still have remaining on the pipe, and the ability to bring that to market in fairly short order.
Speaker #5: So we feel strongly about that. But I will say, just looking at our rates relative to other tariffs and the like, we're certainly at market rates with what we sell our capacity for on double E, but I think what really kind of gives us the advantage is the low-cost expendability that we still have remaining on the pipe and the ability to bring that to market in fairly short order.
Mark Reichman: You know, how sustained-
Mark Reichman: You know, how sustained-
Speaker #3: And then how does the.
J. Heath Deneke: On the LNG thing, yeah, sorry.
Heath Deneke: On the LNG thing, yeah, sorry.
Speaker #5: On the LNG scene.
Mark Reichman: Oh, go ahead.
Mark Reichman: Oh, go ahead.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sorry.
J. Heath Deneke: Go ahead.
Heath Deneke: Go ahead.
Speaker #4: Oh, go ahead.
Speaker #3: Go ahead.
Mark Reichman: No, go ahead.
Mark Reichman: No, go ahead.
Speaker #4: No, go ahead.
J. Heath Deneke: Yeah. Well, I was gonna the second part of your question, I think you were asking about LNG growth. I look, there's no doubt, if you look at, you know, the amount of infrastructure that has been built out and is in the process of being built out to move gas from Waha over to East Texas to kind of feed the LNG facilities in Texas and frankly across into Louisiana as well, it's definitely been the primary catalyst of new infrastructure development. You know, I think there's upwards of over 20 Bcf a day of capacity that, you know, originates frankly from that Waha area that has access to those growing markets. Clearly, you know, has been kind of a near term catalyst.
Heath Deneke: Yeah. Well, I was gonna the second part of your question, I think you were asking about LNG growth. I look, there's no doubt, if you look at, you know, the amount of infrastructure that has been built out and is in the process of being built out to move gas from Waha over to East Texas to kind of feed the LNG facilities in Texas and frankly across into Louisiana as well, it's definitely been the primary catalyst of new infrastructure development. You know, I think there's upwards of over 20 Bcf a day of capacity that, you know, originates frankly from that Waha area that has access to those growing markets. Clearly, you know, has been kind of a near term catalyst.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Well, I was going to the second part of your question, I think you were asking about LNG growth. And look, there's no doubt if you look at the amount of infrastructure that has been built out and is in the process of being built out to move gas from Wahaha over to East Texas to kind of feed the LNG facilities in Texas and, frankly, across into Louisiana as well, definitely been the primary catalyst of new infrastructure development.
Speaker #3: I think there's upwards of over 20 BCF a day of capacity that can originate, frankly, from that Wahaha area that has access to those growing markets.
Speaker #3: So clearly, it has been kind of a near-term catalyst. I will say what's been interesting to watch particularly develop on double E is that that market is kind of getting maybe a little bit saturated in that there's been a lot of projects pointing in that direction.
J. Heath Deneke: I will say what's been interesting to watch, particularly develop on Double E is that, you know, that market is kind of getting maybe a little bit saturated in that, you know, there's gonna be a lot of projects pointing that direction. There's gonna be a lot of LNG growth, but I think we're starting to see additional markets attract interest from, you know, from our shippers. As an example, Energy Transfer's Desert Southwest project is all about getting gas west into Phoenix to serve some incremental power generation demand growth. We've also seen, you know, additional markets pointed towards the MidCon and or up into the Midwest on the north end of our system, really starting to attract interest from shippers to kind of diversify the access that they have to market.
Heath Deneke: I will say what's been interesting to watch, particularly develop on Double E is that, you know, that market is kind of getting maybe a little bit saturated in that, you know, there's gonna be a lot of projects pointing that direction. There's gonna be a lot of LNG growth, but I think we're starting to see additional markets attract interest from, you know, from our shippers. As an example, Energy Transfer's Desert Southwest project is all about getting gas west into Phoenix to serve some incremental power generation demand growth. We've also seen, you know, additional markets pointed towards the MidCon and or up into the Midwest on the north end of our system, really starting to attract interest from shippers to kind of diversify the access that they have to market.
Speaker #3: There's going to be a lot of LNG growth, but I think we're starting to see additional markets attract interest from our shippers. So, as an example, Energy Transfer's Desert Southwest Project is all about getting gas west into Phoenix to serve some incremental power generation demand growth.
Speaker #3: We've also seen additional markets pointed towards the Midcon or up into the Midwest on the north end of our system really start to attract interest from shippers to kind of diversify the access that they have to market.
J. Heath Deneke: Thematically, I think what we're seeing is this massive, call it 6, 7 Bcf a day of incremental supply growth over the next 3 to 5 years. We're finding a lot of new projects, if you will, that are, you know, getting that gas distributed to the right points in the market. Absolutely what's fueling the, you know, the current compression project open season. You know, to your other point about, you know, do we think we're done after that? I think the short answer to that is no. I think You know, as those markets develop kind of on the northern end of our system, we'll have a lot of, you know, backhaul capacity, if you will, to move gas potentially from Waha or other processing plants located south of that.
Heath Deneke: Thematically, I think what we're seeing is this massive, call it 6, 7 Bcf a day of incremental supply growth over the next 3 to 5 years. We're finding a lot of new projects, if you will, that are, you know, getting that gas distributed to the right points in the market. Absolutely what's fueling the, you know, the current compression project open season. You know, to your other point about, you know, do we think we're done after that? I think the short answer to that is no. I think You know, as those markets develop kind of on the northern end of our system, we'll have a lot of, you know, backhaul capacity, if you will, to move gas potentially from Waha or other processing plants located south of that.
Speaker #3: So thematically, I think what we're seeing is this massive, call it six, seven BCF a day of incremental supply growth over the next three to five years and we're finding a lot of new projects, if you will, that are getting that gas distributed to the right points in the market.
Speaker #3: So absolutely is what's fueling the current compression project open season. And to your other point about do we think we're done after that? And I think the short answer to that is no.
Speaker #3: I think as those markets develop kind of on the northern end of our system, we'll have a lot of backhaul capacity, if you will, to move gas, potentially from Wahaha or other processing plants located south of that.
J. Heath Deneke: That really wouldn't require much additional build out. It would just be effectively maybe making that compressor station that we're trying to get FID bi-directional to be able to push gas north or south, depending on in the aggregate which directions flows want to occur. There's also some markets developing around our pipe. You know, we're in discussions with multiple data center/power gen customers that are looking to take advantage of the low gas price in the Permian Basin, you know, that are in close proximity to our pipe. You know, that's an area that, you know, I would say the majority of our customers to date are more supply push, getting supply out to the marketplace, predominantly producers or gathering and processing companies that control residue.
Heath Deneke: That really wouldn't require much additional build out. It would just be effectively maybe making that compressor station that we're trying to get FID bi-directional to be able to push gas north or south, depending on in the aggregate which directions flows want to occur. There's also some markets developing around our pipe. You know, we're in discussions with multiple data center/power gen customers that are looking to take advantage of the low gas price in the Permian Basin, you know, that are in close proximity to our pipe. You know, that's an area that, you know, I would say the majority of our customers to date are more supply push, getting supply out to the marketplace, predominantly producers or gathering and processing companies that control residue.
Speaker #3: There really wouldn't require much additional build-out. It would just be effectively maybe making that compressor station that we're trying to get FID bidirectional to be able to push gas north or south depending on in the aggregate which directions flows want to occur.
Speaker #3: And there's also some markets developing around our pipe. We're in discussions with multiple data center/power gen customers that are looking to take advantage of the low gas price in the Permian Basin that are in close proximity to our pipe.
Speaker #3: So that's an area that I would say the majority of our customers to date are more supply push, getting supply out to the marketplace predominantly producers or gathering and processing companies that control residue.
J. Heath Deneke: We, you know, we could start to see some actually demand side guys come in and, you know, pay to have us expand our system to reach, you know, multiple processing plants to be able to get to buy gas directly from hubs. We really like how this asset's positioned. I think what we've kind of articulated to the market, you know, we see our EBITDA growing, you know, from roughly $35 up to the mid-$60s here, just with what we have contracted to date. Then if you look at, you know, with the expansion that we've announced, we think that could grow up to $90 million. I think, you know, beyond that, I think there's ample room to see that EBITDA continue to grow over the next several years.
Heath Deneke: We, you know, we could start to see some actually demand side guys come in and, you know, pay to have us expand our system to reach, you know, multiple processing plants to be able to get to buy gas directly from hubs. We really like how this asset's positioned. I think what we've kind of articulated to the market, you know, we see our EBITDA growing, you know, from roughly $35 up to the mid-$60s here, just with what we have contracted to date. Then if you look at, you know, with the expansion that we've announced, we think that could grow up to $90 million. I think, you know, beyond that, I think there's ample room to see that EBITDA continue to grow over the next several years.
Speaker #3: But we could start to see some actual demand-side guys come in and pay to have us expand our system to reach multiple processing plants, to be able to get to buy gas directly from hubs.
Speaker #3: So we really like how this asset's positioned. I think what was kind of articulated in the market, we see our EBITDA growing from roughly 35 up to the mid-60s here just with what we have contracted to date.
Speaker #3: And then, if you look at—with the expansion that we've announced—we think that could grow up to $90 million. And I think beyond that, there's ample room to see that EBITDA continue to grow over the next several years.
Mark Reichman: Well, that's very helpful. Now, how sustainable is Rockies throughput growth over the next several quarters? What level of producer activity are you seeing in the DJ and Williston Basins? On that, you might, you know, discuss the commodity mix and margin profile of the Rockies.
Mark Reichman: Well, that's very helpful. Now, how sustainable is Rockies throughput growth over the next several quarters? What level of producer activity are you seeing in the DJ and Williston Basins? On that, you might, you know, discuss the commodity mix and margin profile of the Rockies.
Speaker #4: Well, that's very helpful. Now, how sustainable is Rockies throughput growth over the next several quarters? And what level of producer activity are you seeing in the DJ and Williston Basins?
Speaker #4: And on that, you might discuss the commodity mix and margin profile of the Rockies.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Yeah. I'll let Bill kind of handle the details. Definitely a lot of momentum in both segments as you can imagine with the improving crewed strip we've seen producers in some cases look to pick up additional rigs and we've seen additional wells even kind of finding their way into the back half of 2026.
J. Heath Deneke: Yeah.
Heath Deneke: Yeah.
Mark Reichman: Yeah.
Mark Reichman: Yeah.
J. Heath Deneke: I'll let Bill kind of handle the, you know, the details. Definitely a lot of momentum in both segments, as you can imagine, with, you know, the improving crude strip. We've seen producers in some case look to pick up additional rigs, and we've seen, you know, additional wells even kind of finding their way into the back half of 2026. I think we got a lot of momentum, and Bill, why don't you kind of fill them in on some of the details here?
Heath Deneke: I'll let Bill kind of handle the, you know, the details. Definitely a lot of momentum in both segments, as you can imagine, with, you know, the improving crude strip. We've seen producers in some case look to pick up additional rigs, and we've seen, you know, additional wells even kind of finding their way into the back half of 2026. I think we got a lot of momentum, and Bill, why don't you kind of fill them in on some of the details here?
Speaker #3: So I think we've got a lot of momentum. And Bill, why don't you kind of fill them in on some of the details here?
William Mault: Yeah. Morning, Mark. A couple things going on, and I'll start in the DJ, Mark. There's a large integrated kind of public shipper in the DJ that's a customer of ours. We've actually got 16 wells expected to come online from them here in Q2. That is really just the start of a broader program, call it over the next 2 to 3 years, that they intend to execute on. That's one that we've been around and probably talked to you about in the past that we're starting to see actually come to fruition here, you know, starting here in Q2. Excited about that one. There's also a large private in the DJ. They've been drilling behind our Hereford Ranch processing plant.
Bill Mault: Yeah. Morning, Mark. A couple things going on, and I'll start in the DJ, Mark. There's a large integrated kind of public shipper in the DJ that's a customer of ours. We've actually got 16 wells expected to come online from them here in Q2. That is really just the start of a broader program, call it over the next 2 to 3 years, that they intend to execute on. That's one that we've been around and probably talked to you about in the past that we're starting to see actually come to fruition here, you know, starting here in Q2. Excited about that one. There's also a large private in the DJ. They've been drilling behind our Hereford Ranch processing plant.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Good morning, Mark. And so a couple of things going on, and I'll start in the DJ, Mark. So there's a large integrated kind of public shipper in the DJ that's a customer of ours.
Speaker #5: We've actually got 16 wells expected to come online from them here in the second quarter. That is really just the start of a broader program, call it over the next two to three years that they intend to execute on.
Speaker #5: That's one that we've been around, have probably talked to you about in the past that we're starting to see actually come to fruition here starting here in Q2.
Speaker #5: So excited about that one. There's also a large private in the DJ they've been drilling behind our Herford Ranch processing plant. We've seen outlooks from them that could fill up that processing plant.
William Mault: You know, we've seen outlooks from them that could fill up that processing plant. We'll see how active they get. They are picking up a second rig in the basin, which again, I think is just dovetailing off kind of this, you know, supportive commodity price environment and trying to take advantage of that. The only other one I'd add in the DJ, you know, Peoria Resources acquired Verdad Resources a few months ago. I think we mentioned this during our Q4 earnings, that did create a little bit of a stall in activity for them in 2026.
Bill Mault: You know, we've seen outlooks from them that could fill up that processing plant. We'll see how active they get. They are picking up a second rig in the basin, which again, I think is just dovetailing off kind of this, you know, supportive commodity price environment and trying to take advantage of that. The only other one I'd add in the DJ, you know, Peoria Resources acquired Verdad Resources a few months ago. I think we mentioned this during our Q4 earnings, that did create a little bit of a stall in activity for them in 2026.
Speaker #5: We'll see how active they get. But they are picking up a second rig in the basin, which, again, I think is just dovetailing off kind of this supportive commodity price environment and trying to take advantage of that.
Speaker #5: The only other one I'd add in the DJ: Peoria Resources acquired Verdad a few months ago. I think we mentioned this during our Q4 earnings, but that did create a little bit of a stall in activity for them in '26.
William Mault: You know, we're excited just given the environment we're in and what they're doing that, you know, I'd expect them to kind of pick back up activity here late 2026 into 2027, which we're really not getting the benefit of here in 2026. Up in North Dakota, Mark, you know, we've had several customers. They're, they're trying to figure out how to accelerate development. Obviously, you know, that takes coordination of completion crews and being able to actually execute on it. There is a push from several customers up there to try to accelerate timing. One thing that, and really in Q3, we've had a customer that has been somewhat inactive behind our acreage up in North Dakota the past couple years.
Bill Mault: You know, we're excited just given the environment we're in and what they're doing that, you know, I'd expect them to kind of pick back up activity here late 2026 into 2027, which we're really not getting the benefit of here in 2026. Up in North Dakota, Mark, you know, we've had several customers. They're, they're trying to figure out how to accelerate development. Obviously, you know, that takes coordination of completion crews and being able to actually execute on it. There is a push from several customers up there to try to accelerate timing. One thing that, and really in Q3, we've had a customer that has been somewhat inactive behind our acreage up in North Dakota the past couple years.
Speaker #5: But we're excited just given the environment we're in and what they're doing that I'd expect them to kind of pick back up activity here in late '26 into '27, which we're really not getting the benefit of here in '26.
Speaker #5: Up in North Dakota, Mark, we've had several customers. They're trying to figure out how to accelerate development. Obviously, that takes coordination of completion crews and being able to actually execute on it.
Speaker #5: But there is a push from several customers up there to try to accelerate timing. One thing that and really in the third quarter, we've had a customer that has been somewhat inactive behind our acreage up in North Dakota the past couple of years.
William Mault: They're actually bringing on kind of a pad, focused in the crude oil and produced water gathering area, the services we provide them. The first set of wells is coming on in Q3. We've had conversations with them about additional activity in 2027. Mark, as you know, with, you know, the crude and water cuts up there, those pads are meaningful for volumetric growth behind the system. Excited to kind of see that upcoming. As it relates to kind of margin profile, you should think about the Rockies Segment is roughly 35% kind of commodity price exposed. That's primarily our POP contracts in the DJ, as well as, you know, we retain all the condensate drip that falls off of our system and our compressor stations.
Bill Mault: They're actually bringing on kind of a pad, focused in the crude oil and produced water gathering area, the services we provide them. The first set of wells is coming on in Q3. We've had conversations with them about additional activity in 2027. Mark, as you know, with, you know, the crude and water cuts up there, those pads are meaningful for volumetric growth behind the system. Excited to kind of see that upcoming. As it relates to kind of margin profile, you should think about the Rockies Segment is roughly 35% kind of commodity price exposed. That's primarily our POP contracts in the DJ, as well as, you know, we retain all the condensate drip that falls off of our system and our compressor stations.
Speaker #5: They're actually bringing on kind of a pad focused in the crude oil and produce water gathering area. The services we provide them. The first set of wells is coming on in the third quarter.
Speaker #5: We've had conversations with them about additional activity in '27 and Mark, as you know, with the crude and water cuts up there, those pads are meaningful for volumetric growth behind the system.
Speaker #5: So excited to kind of see that upcoming. And as it relates to kind of margin profile, you should think about the Rockies segment is roughly 35% kind of commodity price exposed that's primarily our pop contracts in the DJ as well as we retain all the condensate drip.
Speaker #5: That falls off of our system and our compressor stations. And when you break that down a little further, Mark, I would think about it as between NGLs and crude that represents roughly 75%.
William Mault: When you break that down a little further, Mark, I would think about it as, you know, between NGLs and crude, that represents roughly 75%, and residue represents the remaining 25% of that kind of product margin breakdown. Bill
Bill Mault: When you break that down a little further, Mark, I would think about it as, you know, between NGLs and crude, that represents roughly 75%, and residue represents the remaining 25% of that kind of product margin breakdown.
Speaker #5: And then residue represents the remaining 25% of that kind of product margin breakdown.
J. Heath Deneke: Mark Reichman, just one thing to just add to what, you know, Bill Mault was talking about with the Rockies Segment. I mean, clearly it and the Permian Segment are gonna be the two largest drivers of growth for us in the out years. As we've kind of, you know, talked about and provided in some of our investment materials, you know, we see roughly, you know, upwards of $100 million of EBITDA growth organically from 2025 into the 2030 time frame. If you think about that, you know, what does that mean from a Rockies Segment? Well, the things that Bill Mault has kind of articulated that we're seeing early signs and maybe even accelerating from what we, you know, thought when we actually published that.
Heath Deneke: Mark Reichman, just one thing to just add to what, you know, Bill Mault was talking about with the Rockies Segment. I mean, clearly it and the Permian Segment are gonna be the two largest drivers of growth for us in the out years. As we've kind of, you know, talked about and provided in some of our investment materials, you know, we see roughly, you know, upwards of $100 million of EBITDA growth organically from 2025 into the 2030 time frame. If you think about that, you know, what does that mean from a Rockies Segment? Well, the things that Bill Mault has kind of articulated that we're seeing early signs and maybe even accelerating from what we, you know, thought when we actually published that.
Speaker #3: And Mark, just one thing that I'll add to what Bill was talking about with the Rockies segment. I mean, clearly, it and the Permian are going to be the two largest drivers of growth for us in the out years, and as we've talked about and provided in some of our investment materials, we see roughly upwards of $100 million of EBITDA growth organically from 2025 into the 2030 timeframe.
Speaker #3: And so if you think about that, what does that mean from a Rockies? Well, the things that Bill has kind of articulated that we're seeing early signs and maybe even accelerating from what we thought when we actually published that, you could see the Rockies growing from roughly around 85 million of contribution today to upwards of 160 million over that through 2030.
J. Heath Deneke: You know, you could see the Rockies growing from roughly around $85 million of contribution today to upwards of $160 million over that through 2030. Substantial amount of growth there. You know, like I said, we're probably seeing signs that potentially that growth may even get further accelerated from what we thought the ramp up would be between now and 2030.
Heath Deneke: You know, you could see the Rockies growing from roughly around $85 million of contribution today to upwards of $160 million over that through 2030. Substantial amount of growth there. You know, like I said, we're probably seeing signs that potentially that growth may even get further accelerated from what we thought the ramp up would be between now and 2030.
Speaker #3: So substantial amount of growth there. And like I said, we're probably seeing signs that potentially that growth may even get further accelerated from what we thought the ramp-up would be between now and 2030.
Chris Tennant: Yeah. Jumping on the end of that, Heath. This is Chris Tennant, Mark. We're having conversations with all of our major customers in that area, really thinking about the next cycle of growth and infrastructure needed to really plan accordingly. It gives us a lot of confidence when we look forward in those areas.
Chris Tennant: Yeah. Jumping on the end of that, Heath. This is Chris Tennant, Mark. We're having conversations with all of our major customers in that area, really thinking about the next cycle of growth and infrastructure needed to really plan accordingly. It gives us a lot of confidence when we look forward in those areas.
Speaker #1: Yeah. Jumping on the end of that, Heath, this is Chris Tennant, Mark. We're having conversations with all of our major customers in that area, really thinking about the next cycle of growth and infrastructure needed to really plan accordingly.
Speaker #1: So it gives us a lot of confidence when we look forward in those areas.
Mark Reichman: Now, are there any bolt-on acquisition opportunities in your operating regions, particularly the Rockies and Permian, where you're seeing the stronger operational momentum?
Mark Reichman: Now, are there any bolt-on acquisition opportunities in your operating regions, particularly the Rockies and Permian, where you're seeing the stronger operational momentum?
Speaker #6: Now, are there any bolt-on acquisition opportunities in your operating regions particularly the Rockies and Permian where you're seeing the stronger operational momentum?
J. Heath Deneke: Certainly, I'd say the Rockies is probably where we see the most near-term opportunities. There's still a fair amount of privately owned, privately backed systems that need to find a, you know, a liquidity or an exit point here fairly soon. We're pretty active identifying and working, having conversations around some of those assets. You know, you should think of those kind of fitting that historical profile that we've executed over the past three years.
Heath Deneke: Certainly, I'd say the Rockies is probably where we see the most near-term opportunities. There's still a fair amount of privately owned, privately backed systems that need to find a, you know, a liquidity or an exit point here fairly soon. We're pretty active identifying and working, having conversations around some of those assets. You know, you should think of those kind of fitting that historical profile that we've executed over the past three years.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Certainly, I'd say the Rockies is probably where we see the most near-term opportunities. They're still a fair amount of privately owned, privately backed systems that need to find a liquidity or an exit point here fairly soon.
Speaker #3: So we're pretty active identifying and working having conversations around some of those assets. And you should think of those kind of fitting that historical profile that we've executed over the past three years.
J. Heath Deneke: I mean, these are gonna be, you know, roughly kind of in that, let's call it 6, you know, somewhere between 5 to 7 times type purchase multiples on an LTM basis that are synergistic that we think we can kind of drive down to, you know, a very accretive levels. Or that we'll be able to capture a lot of accretion from a value perspective and from a leverage perspective in the out years. I think the Permian is a little different. I do think there are some larger opportunities that we're kind of looking at.
Heath Deneke: I mean, these are gonna be, you know, roughly kind of in that, let's call it 6, you know, somewhere between 5 to 7 times type purchase multiples on an LTM basis that are synergistic that we think we can kind of drive down to, you know, a very accretive levels. Or that we'll be able to capture a lot of accretion from a value perspective and from a leverage perspective in the out years. I think the Permian is a little different. I do think there are some larger opportunities that we're kind of looking at.
Speaker #3: I mean, these are going to be roughly kind of in that let's call it six somewhere between five to seven times type purchase multiples on an LTM basis that are synergistic that we think we can kind of drive down to a very creative levels or that we would be able to capture a lot of accretion from a value perspective and from a leverage perspective in the out years I think the Permian is a little different.
Speaker #3: I do think there are some larger opportunities that we're kind of looking at. I think that's one of the differentiators between there's probably more actionable items that we see in the Rockies that are kind of fit more that call it 30 to upwards of 100 million of EBITDA.
J. Heath Deneke: You know, I think that's one of the differentiators between, you know, there's probably more actionable items that we see in the Rockies Segment that kind of fit more that, call it $30 to upwards of $100 million EBITDA. When you start getting into the Permian Segment, the type of opportunities that we are seeing are probably, you know, north of that, maybe closer to the $150 to $200 million. They're not completely out of reach, but obviously, they're ones that take, you know, are gonna be more complex, you know, to execute on, and something that, you know, I wouldn't rule out in the out years. I think near term, I think we're more focused on the Rockies Segment opportunities at this point.
Heath Deneke: You know, I think that's one of the differentiators between, you know, there's probably more actionable items that we see in the Rockies Segment that kind of fit more that, call it $30 to upwards of $100 million EBITDA. When you start getting into the Permian Segment, the type of opportunities that we are seeing are probably, you know, north of that, maybe closer to the $150 to $200 million. They're not completely out of reach, but obviously, they're ones that take, you know, are gonna be more complex, you know, to execute on, and something that, you know, I wouldn't rule out in the out years. I think near term, I think we're more focused on the Rockies Segment opportunities at this point.
Speaker #3: When you start getting into the Permian, the type of opportunities that we are seeing are probably north of that, maybe closer to the 150 to 200.
Speaker #3: They're not completely out of reach, but obviously, they're ones that are going to be more complex to execute on and something that I wouldn't rule out in the out years. But I think near term, we're more focused on the Rockies opportunities at this point.
Mark Reichman: My last question is just what are the remaining plans and objectives in your broader capital structure optimization strategy? How do you prioritize the capital allocation between debt reduction, organic growth, acquisitions, and return of capital to shareholders?
Mark Reichman: My last question is just what are the remaining plans and objectives in your broader capital structure optimization strategy? How do you prioritize the capital allocation between debt reduction, organic growth, acquisitions, and return of capital to shareholders?
Speaker #6: And then my last question is just, what are the remaining plans and objectives in your broader capital structure optimization strategy? And how do you prioritize the capital allocation between debt reduction, organic growth, acquisitions, and return of capital to shareholders?
J. Heath Deneke: Go ahead, Bill.
Heath Deneke: Go ahead, Bill.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Go ahead, Bill.
William Mault: Yeah, Mark. I'd say, you know, over the next couple years, Mark, one thing that we've talked about, particularly when we did the refinancing of, you know, the Double E refinancing here last quarter, you know, we set that up whereby in, call it, that 2028 time frame, you know, we've got the flexibility to kind of clean that up, bring it up on balance sheet in the recourse borrower group. That's probably the next kind of item on the list. I don't think as we sit here today, Mark, you know, we've been prioritizing post-growth capital, you know, the remaining free cash flow, prioritizing debt repayment to get to our kind of long-term leverage target in 3.5x. I think you'll see us prioritize that, Mark, till we get to that long-term leverage target.
Bill Mault: Yeah, Mark. I'd say, you know, over the next couple years, Mark, one thing that we've talked about, particularly when we did the refinancing of, you know, the Double E refinancing here last quarter, you know, we set that up whereby in, call it, that 2028 time frame, you know, we've got the flexibility to kind of clean that up, bring it up on balance sheet in the recourse borrower group. That's probably the next kind of item on the list. I don't think as we sit here today, Mark, you know, we've been prioritizing post-growth capital, you know, the remaining free cash flow, prioritizing debt repayment to get to our kind of long-term leverage target in 3.5x. I think you'll see us prioritize that, Mark, till we get to that long-term leverage target.
Speaker #5: Yeah, Mark. So I'd say over the next couple of years, Mark, one thing that we've talked about particularly when we did the refinancing of the double E refinancing here last quarter we set that up whereby and call it that 2028 timeframe.
Speaker #5: We've got the flexibility to kind of clean that up, bring it up on-balance sheet in the recourse borrower group. That's probably the next kind of item on the list.
Speaker #5: I don't think as we sit here today, Mark, we've been prioritizing post-growth capital the remaining free cash flow prioritizing debt repayment to get to our kind of long-term leverage target of three and a half times.
Speaker #5: So I think you'll see us prioritize that, Mark, till we get to that long-term leverage target. And it's a balancing act. As it relates to M&A and organic growth, I'd tell you a lot of our organic growth projects are commanding very call it 20, 30-plus percent unlevered rates of return, which are obviously very attractive and we'd make the long-term decision to focus on reinvesting in growth to the extent additional opportunities arise on the organic side.
William Mault: It's a balancing act. As it relates to M&A and organic growth, you know, I tell you, a lot of our organic growth projects, you know, are commanding very, you know, call it 20%, 30% plus unlevered rates of return, which are obviously very attractive. You know, we'd make the long-term decision, you know, to focus on reinvesting in growth, you know, to the extent additional opportunities arise on the organic side.
Bill Mault: It's a balancing act. As it relates to M&A and organic growth, you know, I tell you, a lot of our organic growth projects, you know, are commanding very, you know, call it 20%, 30% plus unlevered rates of return, which are obviously very attractive. You know, we'd make the long-term decision, you know, to focus on reinvesting in growth, you know, to the extent additional opportunities arise on the organic side.
Mark Reichman: That's great. That's very helpful. Thank you very much.
Mark Reichman: That's great. That's very helpful. Thank you very much.
Speaker #6: That's great. That's very helpful. Thank you very much.
William Mault: Thank you, Mark.
Bill Mault: Thank you, Mark.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Mark.
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