Q3 2026 Lesaka Technologies Inc Earnings Call

May 7, 2026

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Welcome to Lesaka Technologies' results webcast for Q3 of fiscal 2026. As a reminder, this webcast is being recorded. Management will address any questions you have at the end of the presentation. To ask a question, live participants are requested to join the chorus call line by registering via the link provided. Alternatively, please enter your questions into the Questions tab of this webcast. Our press release and investor presentation are available on our investor relations website at ir.lesakatech.com. During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements, and I ask you to look at the cautionary language contained in our press release, presentation, and Form 10-Q, available on our website. As a domestic filer in the United States, we report results in USD under US GAAP.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Welcome to Lesaka Technologies' results webcast for third quarter of fiscal 2026. As a reminder, this webcast is being recorded. Management will address any questions you have at the end of the presentation. To ask a question, live participants are requested to join the chorus call line by registering via the link provided. Alternatively, please enter your questions into the Questions tab of this webcast. Our press release and investor presentation are available on our investor relations website at ir.lesakatech.com.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, this webcast is being recorded. Management will address any questions you have at the end of the presentation. To ask a question, live participants are requested to join the chorus call line.

Speaker #2: By registering via the link provided. Alternatively, please enter your questions into the questions tab of this webcast. Our press release and investor presentation are available on our investor relations website at ir.lesakatec.com.

Speaker #2: During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements and I ask you to look at the cautionary language contained in our press release, presentation, and form 10Q available on our website.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): During this call, we will be making forward-looking statements, and I ask you to look at the cautionary language contained in our press release, presentation, and Form 10-Q, available on our website. As a domestic filer in the United States, we report results in USD under US GAAP.

Speaker #2: As a domestic filer in the United States, we report results in US dollars under US GAAP. However, it is important to note that our operational currencies, South African Rand, and as such, we analyze our performance in South African Rand, which is non-GAAP.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): However, it is important to note that our operational currency is South African rand, and as such, we analyze our performance in South African rand, which is non-GAAP. This assists investors in understanding the underlying trends in our business. I will now turn the webcast over to Ali.

Speaker #2: This assists investors in understanding the underlying trends in our business. I will now turn the webcast over to Ali. Good morning and good afternoon.

Ali Mazanderani: Good morning and good afternoon. Thank you for joining us for Lesaka's Q3 results presentation. I am pleased to report Lesaka has delivered a strong set of results for Q3 FY 2026. It is also worth noting that this is substantially on a like-for-like basis. Net revenue is up 16% to ZAR 1.58 billion, short of our guidance of ZAR 1.65 billion due to slightly softer than expected performance in merchant, as the division focused on the integration of the business units and closures of non-core business lines. We remain confident in the profile and trajectory of the merchant division, as Lincoln will talk you through in more detail shortly. From a profitability perspective, group-adjusted EBITDA came in at ZAR 337 million, at the top end of our guidance and a 45% increase over last year.

Speaker #2: Thank you for joining us for LESAKA's Q3 results presentation. I'm pleased to report LESAKA has delivered a strong set of results for Q3, FY 2026.

Speaker #2: It's also worth noting that this is substantially on a like-for-like basis. Net revenue is up 16% to 1.58 billion Rand, short of our guidance of 1.65 billion Rand due to slightly softer than expected performance in merchant as the division focused on the integration of the business units and closures of non-core business lines.

Speaker #2: We remain confident in the profile and trajectory of the merchant division as Lincoln will talk you through in more detail shortly. From a profitability perspective, group-adjusted EBITDA came in at 337 million Rand, at the top end of our guidance, and a 45% increase over last year.

Ali Mazanderani: We remain confident in the profile and trajectory of the merchant division, as Lincoln will talk you through in more detail shortly. From a profitability perspective, group-adjusted EBITDA came in at ZAR 337 million, at the top end of our guidance and a 45% increase over last year. Adjusted earnings was up 246% from ZAR 43 million to ZAR 148 million. Similarly, adjusted earnings per share increased from ZAR 0.52 to ZAR 1.80 for the quarter.

Speaker #2: Adjusted earnings was up 246% from 43 million Rand to 148 million Rand, similarly adjusted earnings per share increased from 52 South African cents to 1 Rand 80 for the quarter.

Ali Mazanderani: Adjusted earnings was up 246% from ZAR 43 million to ZAR 148 million. Similarly, adjusted earnings per share increased from ZAR 0.52 to ZAR 1.80 for the quarter. Net debt to group-adjusted EBITDA of 2.1x is a significant improvement over last year and is close to our target of 2x. Dan will unpack the divisional numbers in more detail shortly. From the last quarter, we have simplified how we present our business, emphasizing its core structural revenue drivers. We present a single total view for active consumers and active merchants, an aggregated ARPU for each. Consumer ARPU is a function of our transactional bank account and the penetration of our lending and insurance products within our account base.

Speaker #2: Net debt to group-adjusted EBITDA of 2.1 times is a significant improvement over last year, and is close to our target of 2 times. Dan will unpack the divisional numbers in more detail shortly.

Ali Mazanderani: Net debt to group-adjusted EBITDA of 2.1x is a significant improvement over last year and is close to our target of 2x. Dan will unpack the divisional numbers in more detail shortly. From the last quarter, we have simplified how we present our business, emphasizing its core structural revenue drivers. We present a single total view for active consumers and active merchants, an aggregated ARPU for each. Consumer ARPU is a function of our transactional bank account and the penetration of our lending and insurance products within our account base.

Speaker #2: From the last quarter, we have simplified how we present our business, emphasizing its core structural revenue drivers. We present a single total view for active consumers and active merchants, and aggregated ARPU for each.

Speaker #2: Consumer ARPU is a function of our transactional bank account and the penetration of our lending and insurance products within our account base. While merchant ARPU is a function of our five products, acquiring, ADP, lending, software, and cash.

Ali Mazanderani: While merchant ARPU is a function of our 5 products: acquiring, alternative digital products, ADP, lending, software, and cash. Over time, we may continue to further refine our definitions of ARPU to better reflect the business strategy. We have 750 enterprise clients, so rather than representing the drivers in enterprise on an ARPU basis, we do so on a take rate and total processed volume for ADP and utilities. These six variables across the group together explain more than 90% of our net revenue. We will use this framework as the key drivers of the net revenue of our businesses each quarter to thread the operational performance of each division along with the financial results. In full-year results, we will provide more granular information on the underlying drivers of each of our core products by division.

Speaker #2: Over time, we may continue to further refine our definitions of ARPU to better reflect the business strategy. We have 750 enterprise clients, so rather than representing the drivers in enterprise on an ARPU basis, we do so on a take rate and total process volume for ADP and utilities.

Speaker #2: These six variables across the group, together explain more than 90% of our net revenue. We will use this framework as a key driver of the net revenue of our businesses each quarter, to thread the operational performance of each division, along with the financial results.

Ali Mazanderani: We will use this framework as the key drivers of the net revenue of our businesses each quarter to thread the operational performance of each division along with the financial results. In full-year results, we will provide more granular information on the underlying drivers of each of our core products by division. For now, I will hand you over to Dan to take you through our financial performance in more detail.

Speaker #2: In full-year results, we will provide more granular information on the underlying drivers of each of our core products by division. For now, I will hand you over to Dan to take you through our financial performance in more detail.

Ali Mazanderani: For now, I will hand you over to Dan to take you through our financial performance in more detail.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Ali. Good morning and good afternoon to everyone joining us today. Before turning to our operating financial performance, and the components of our business, I would like to focus on the excellent progress we've made this quarter in addressing some of our legacy and non-core activities.

Dan Smith: Thank you, Ali. Good morning and good afternoon to everyone joining us today. Before turning to our operating financial performance and the components of our business, I would like to focus on the excellent progress we've made this quarter in addressing some of our legacy and non-core activities, as well as creating one Lesaka. These initiatives have resulted in a few non-recurring items that have had a mixed impact on our results this quarter. In our Merchant division, we made the decision to exit the ATM business, reflecting our disciplined focus on profitability and capital allocation. The business was structurally loss-making and immaterial in scale. Its wind down removes an ongoing group adjusted EBITDA drag and allows us to redeploy capital towards higher return digitally led growth opportunities as part of our broader portfolio optimization.

Speaker #2: As well as creating one LESAKA. These initiatives have resulted in a few non-recurring items that have had a mixed impact on our results this quarter.

Speaker #2: In our merchant division, we made the decision to exit the ATM business, reflecting our disciplined, focus on profitability and capital allocation. The business was structurally loss-making, and immaterial in scale.

Dan Smith: In our Merchant division, we made the decision to exit the ATM business, reflecting our disciplined focus on profitability and capital allocation. The business was structurally loss-making and immaterial in scale. Its wind down removes an ongoing group adjusted EBITDA drag and allows us to redeploy capital towards higher return digitally led growth opportunities as part of our broader portfolio optimization.

Speaker #2: Its wind-down removes an ongoing group-adjusted EBITDA drag, and allows us to redeploy capital towards higher return digitally-led gross opportunities as part of our broader portfolio optimization.

Speaker #2: This resulted in a total impairment charge of approximately 27 million Rand. Split between our impairment entries and one soft items. Also within the merchant division, switch pay a legacy buy now, pay later product has been sunset.

Dan Smith: This resulted in a total impairment charge of approximately ZAR 27 million, split between our impairment entries and once-off items. Also within the Merchant division, SwitchPay, a legacy buy now, pay later product, has been sunset, resulting in an impairment charge of ZAR 6.5 million recognized in the quarter. At a group level, we focused on the collection of monies owed to us from a legacy investment and reversed the receivables allowance of ZAR 25 million. Similarly, we also de-registered a legacy offshore entity being Master Payment, resulting in a gain of ZAR 14 million. As highlighted last quarter, we are progressing with our major rebrand to One Lesaka. The rebrand has been launched with an activation campaign with the external customer rollout planned over the coming months.

Speaker #2: Resulting in an impairment charge of 6 and a half million Rand, recognized in the quarter. At a group level, we focused on the collection of moneys owed to us from a legacy investment, and reversed the receivables allowance of 25 million Rand.

Speaker #2: Similarly, we also deregistered a legacy offshore entity being master payment, resulting in a gain of 14 million Rand. As highlighted last quarter, we are progressing with our major rebrand to one LESAKA.

Dan Smith: Similarly, we also de-registered a legacy offshore entity being Master Payment, resulting in a gain of ZAR 14 million. As highlighted last quarter, we are progressing with our major rebrand to One Lesaka. The rebrand has been launched with an activation campaign with the external customer rollout planned over the coming months. Rebrand related costs of ZAR 16 million were incurred during the quarter, and we maintain our guided total rebrand costs in the range of ZAR 50 to 75 million.

Speaker #2: The rebrand has been launched with an activation campaign, with the external customer rollout planned over the coming months. Rebrand-related costs of 16 million Rand were incurred during the quarter.

Dan Smith: Rebrand related costs of ZAR 16 million were incurred during the quarter, and we maintain our guided total rebrand costs in the range of ZAR 50 to 75 million. Given our transformation as One Lesaka and our office consolidation, we also recognized an impairment charge of ZAR 26 million on leased premises due to lower utilization rates. Finally, the accelerated write-down of our intangible assets relating to our legacy brands has tapered off, with the purchase price amortization of intangible assets now at ZAR 98 million, which reflects a more normalized run rate. Looking at our divisional performance, Lesaka delivered nearly ZAR 1.6 billion net revenue, a growth of 16% for the quarter. Merchant net revenue declined 4% to ZAR 751 million, as previously explained by Ali. We expect Merchant net revenue to be flat next quarter.

Speaker #2: And we have maintained our guided total rebrand costs in the range of 50 to 75 million Rand. Given our transformation as one LESAKA, and our office consolidation, we also recognize an impairment charge of 26 million Rand on leased premises.

Dan Smith: Given our transformation as One Lesaka and our office consolidation, we also recognized an impairment charge of ZAR 26 million on leased premises due to lower utilization rates. Finally, the accelerated write-down of our intangible assets relating to our legacy brands has tapered off, with the purchase price amortization of intangible assets now at ZAR 98 million, which reflects a more normalized run rate. Looking at our divisional performance, Lesaka delivered nearly ZAR 1.6 billion net revenue, a growth of 16% for the quarter.

Speaker #2: Due to lower utilization rates. Finally, the accelerated write-down of our intangible assets relating to our legacy brands has tapered off. With the purchase price amortization of intangible assets now at 98 million Rand, which reflects a more normalized run rate.

Speaker #2: Looking at our divisional performance, LESAKA delivered nearly 1.6 billion Rand net revenue. A growth of 16% for the quarter. Merchant net revenue declined 4% to 751 million Rand, as previously explained by Ali.

Dan Smith: Merchant net revenue declined 4% to ZAR 751 million, as previously explained by Ali. We expect Merchant net revenue to be flat next quarter. However, as you will see on the next slide, segment adjusted EBITDA for Merchant increased this quarter. In contrast, the Consumer division delivered another record performance, with net revenue increasing 41% to ZAR 627 million, an all-time quarterly high. The Enterprise division also performed strongly, delivering net revenue growth of 51% to ZAR 220 million.

Speaker #2: We expect merchant net revenue to be flat next quarter, however, as you will see on the next slide, segment-adjusted EBITDA for merchant increased this quarter.

Dan Smith: However, as you will see on the next slide, segment adjusted EBITDA for Merchant increased this quarter. In contrast, the Consumer division delivered another record performance, with net revenue increasing 41% to ZAR 627 million, an all-time quarterly high. The Enterprise division also performed strongly, delivering net revenue growth of 51% to ZAR 220 million. This growth includes 3 months of contribution from Recharger compared to 1 month in the prior period. However, it also reflects meaningful organic growth as the division's refreshed strategy and operating structure continue to gain traction in the channels they serve. At a group level, adjusted EBITDA of ZAR 337 million was an all-time quarterly high for Lesaka and represents a 45% year-on-year increase. The Merchant division recorded a 3% increase to ZAR 151 million.

Speaker #2: In contrast, the Consumer division delivered another record performance, with net revenue increasing 41% to 627 million Rand—an all-time quarterly high. The Enterprise division also performed strongly, delivering net revenue growth of 51% to 220 million Rand.

Speaker #2: This growth includes three months of contribution from recharger, compared to one month in the prior period. However, it also reflects meaningful branding growth as the division's refresh strategy and operating structure continue to gain traction in the channels they serve.

Dan Smith: This growth includes 3 months of contribution from Recharger compared to 1 month in the prior period. However, it also reflects meaningful organic growth as the division's refreshed strategy and operating structure continue to gain traction in the channels they serve. At a group level, adjusted EBITDA of ZAR 337 million was an all-time quarterly high for Lesaka and represents a 45% year-on-year increase. The Merchant division recorded a 3% increase to ZAR 151 million.

Speaker #2: At a group level, adjusted EBITDA of 337 million Rand was an all-time quarterly high for LESAKA. And represents a 45% year-on-year increase. The merchant division recorded a 3% increase to 151 million Rand.

Speaker #2: We are pleased to see evidence of the efficiencies implemented over the past six months, translating to an increased margin to above 20%. Our medium-term expectations remain that the merchant margin will continue to increase to above 30%.

Dan Smith: We are pleased to see evidence of the efficiencies implemented over the past six months translating to an increased margin to above 20%. Our medium-term expectations remain that the Merchant margin will continue to increase to above 30%. Consumer segment adjusted EBITDA increased by 81% to a record ZAR 213 million, reflecting strong operating leverage and disciplined execution. Last quarter, we saw over ZAR 1 billion of origination volume for our lending product, and we are starting to see the positive impact flow through to our financial performance. The Enterprise division delivered a segment adjusted EBITDA contribution of ZAR 35 million as the business scales. Group costs were ZAR 62 million, slightly elevated due to an investment made in improving finance, risk, and compliance frameworks and strategic hires at a head office level.

Speaker #2: Consumer segment–adjusted EBITDA increased by 81% to a record 213 million rand, reflecting strong operating leverage and disciplined execution. Last quarter, we saw over 1 billion rand of origination volume for our lending product.

Dan Smith: Last quarter, we saw over ZAR 1 billion of origination volume for our lending product, and we are starting to see the positive impact flow through to our financial performance. The Enterprise division delivered a segment adjusted EBITDA contribution of ZAR 35 million as the business scales. Group costs were ZAR 62 million, slightly elevated due to an investment made in improving finance, risk, and compliance frameworks and strategic hires at a head office level.

Speaker #2: And we are starting to see the positive impact flow through to our financial performance. The Enterprise division delivered a segment-adjusted EBITDA contribution of 35 million Rand, as the business scales.

Speaker #2: Group costs were 62 million Rand, slightly elevated due to an investment made in improving finance, risk, and compliance frameworks, and strategic hires at a head office level.

Speaker #2: This is a more accurate reflection of our group costs run rate going forward. Adjusted earnings per share continued its strong upward trajectory, increasing 247% to 1.80 per share.

Dan Smith: This is a more accurate reflection of our group costs run rate going forward. Adjusted earnings per share continued its strong upward trajectory, increasing 247% to ZAR 1.80 per share, underscoring our ability to effectively integrate and extract synergies from our inorganic growth activity and our ability to scale organically once integration and transformation phases are complete. Our strong cash generation continues this quarter, with cash generated from business operations of ZAR 365 million, closely tracking our group adjusted EBITDA. Given the short duration of our credit cycle and seasonality effects, we only required an additional ZAR 10 million of funding for our lending books, reflecting the efficiency and scale of our operations.

Speaker #2: Underscoring our ability to effectively integrate and extract synergies from our inorganic growth activity and our ability to scale organically once the integration and transformation phases are complete.

Speaker #2: Our strong cash generation continues this quarter, with cash generated from business operations of 365 million Rand. Closely tracking our group-adjusted EBITDA. Given the short duration of our credit cycle, and seasonality effects we only required an additional 10 million Rand of funding for our lending books.

Dan Smith: Our strong cash generation continues this quarter, with cash generated from business operations of ZAR 365 million, closely tracking our group adjusted EBITDA. Given the short duration of our credit cycle and seasonality effects, we only required an additional ZAR 10 million of funding for our lending books, reflecting the efficiency and scale of our operations.

Speaker #2: Reflecting the efficiency and scale of our operations. We paid 98 million Rand in cash interest and while not presented on the slide, but reflected in anxious to this presentation, is a release of 320 million Rand of seasonal working capital, compared to the prior quarter.

Dan Smith: We paid ZAR 98 million in cash interest, and while not presented on the slide, but reflected in the annexures to this presentation, is a release of ZAR 320 million of seasonal working capital compared to the prior quarter. In aggregate, the group generated a pleasing ZAR 608 million in operating cash flow. We continue to manage our CapEx carefully, with ZAR 76 million of investment this quarter. Our CapEx was relatively evenly split between cash vaults, POS devices, and software and platform development. The strong earnings growth in cash generation, combined with prudent capital allocation, resulted in our net debt to group-adjusted EBITDA improving to 2.1x this quarter and bringing us closer to our medium-term target of 2x. In recent quarters, the benefits of the platform we are building have become increasingly evident.

Speaker #2: In aggregate, the group generated a pleasing 608 million Rand, in operating cash flow. We continue to manage our capital with 76 million Rand of investment this quarter.

Speaker #2: Our capex was relatively evenly split between cash vaults, positive ISOs, and software and platform development. The strong earnings growth in cash generation combined with prudent capital allocation resulted in our net debt to group-adjusted EBITDA improving to 2.1 times this quarter.

Dan Smith: The strong earnings growth in cash generation, combined with prudent capital allocation, resulted in our net debt to group-adjusted EBITDA improving to 2.1x this quarter and bringing us closer to our medium-term target of 2x. In recent quarters, the benefits of the platform we are building have become increasingly evident.

Speaker #2: And bringing us closer to our medium-term target of 2 times. In recent quarters, the benefits of the platform we are building have become increasingly evident.

Speaker #2: Continued growth across our distribution footprint, combined with ongoing product innovation, has further improved operating leverage, with operating margin rising from 17.2% a year ago to 21.4% this quarter.

Dan Smith: Continued growth across our distribution footprint, combined with ongoing product innovation, has further improved operating leverage, with operating margin rising from 17.2% a year ago to 21.4% this quarter. As the transformation of our merchant division progresses and following the completion of the Bank Zero acquisition, we continue to expect operating margins to trend towards over 30% over the medium term at a group level. A similar positive trajectory is evident in our capital investment profile. Consistent with prior guidance, we expect CapEx to remain below ZAR 400 million per annum. On the last 12 months basis, CapEx as a percentage of EBITDA has reduced from approximately 46% a year ago to 29% this quarter. Together, these trends highlight the strengthening fundamentals of the business as we continue to evolve and scale our platform. Thank you.

Speaker #2: As the transformation of our merchant division progresses, and following the completion of the Bank Zero acquisition, we continue to expect operating margins to trend towards over 30% over the medium term at a group level.

Speaker #2: A similar positive trajectory is evident in our capital investment profile. Consistent with prior guidance, we expect capex to remain below 400 million Rand per annum.

Dan Smith: Consistent with prior guidance, we expect CapEx to remain below ZAR 400 million per annum. On the last 12 months basis, CapEx as a percentage of EBITDA has reduced from approximately 46% a year ago to 29% this quarter. Together, these trends highlight the strengthening fundamentals of the business as we continue to evolve and scale our platform. Thank you. I will now hand over to Lincoln to take you through our divisional performance.

Speaker #2: On a last 12-months basis, capex as a percentage of EBITDA has reduced from approximately 46% a year ago to 29% this quarter. Together, these trends highlight the strengthening fundamentals of the business as we continue to evolve and scale our platform.

Speaker #2: Thank you I will now hand over to Lincoln to take you through our divisional performance.

Dan Smith: I will now hand over to Lincoln to take you through our divisional performance.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Dan. Good morning and afternoon, everyone. As Dan has alluded to, we're in the middle of building an integrated merchant business from five historical companies.

Lincoln Mali: Thank you, Dan. Good morning and afternoon, everyone. As Dan has alluded to, we're in the middle of building an integrated merchant business from 5 historical companies. We are modernizing our core system into a unified backbone, enabling our servicing staff to provide a more efficient and effective customer service. We are centralizing data, creating a 360-degree view of each merchant, and implementing AI to strengthen our risk capabilities and reduce customer friction. This enables better credit decisions and reduced fraud. Furthermore, we are leveraging these assets to drive smarter customer engagement. For example, AI-enabled WhatsApp support and targeted cross-sell engine will simultaneously enhance the client experience and we believe will drive higher ARPU. At an overall level, active merchants increased by 6% year on year. Looking at the mix of our active merchants, our community merchants grew 8% year on year.

Speaker #1: We are modernizing our cost systems into a unified backbone enabling our servicing staff to provide a more efficient and effective customer service. We are centralizing data creating a 360-degree view of each merchant and implementing AI to strengthen our risk capabilities and reduce customer friction.

Speaker #1: This enables better credit decisions and reduced fraud. Furthermore, we are leveraging these assets to drive smarter customer engagement. For an example, AI-enabled WhatsApp support and targeted cross-sell engines will simultaneously enhance the client experience and we believe will drive higher up.

Lincoln Mali: Furthermore, we are leveraging these assets to drive smarter customer engagement. For example, AI-enabled WhatsApp support and targeted cross-sell engine will simultaneously enhance the client experience and we believe will drive higher ARPU. At an overall level, active merchants increased by 6% year on year. Looking at the mix of our active merchants, our community merchants grew 8% year on year.

Speaker #1: At an overall level, active merchants increased by 6% year-on-year. Looking at the mix of our active merchants our community merchants grew 8% year-on-year. Last year, we restructured our community merchant sales force to allow for a more targeted distribution strategy and we are pleased to see our community merchant portfolio increase.

Lincoln Mali: Last year, we restructured our community merchant sales force to allow for a more targeted distribution strategy, and we are pleased to see our community merchant portfolio increase. The number of active corporate merchants fell 4% year on year, primarily due to increased competition in smaller line products, for an example, merchant acquiring. At the aggregate, merchant ARPU was 7% lower than last year and driven primarily by an increase in the number of community merchants as a percentage of the total. Community merchants are growing faster than corporate merchants, and this has a predictable impact on blended economics as they generate materially lower ARPU than corporate merchants, as shown in the slide. As the community segment becomes a larger proportion of the overall base, aggregate merchant ARPU naturally decreases even while engagement levels, transaction volumes, and profitability increase.

Speaker #1: The number of active corporate merchants fell 4% year-on-year, primarily due to increased competition in monoline products for an example merchant acquiring. At the aggregate, merchant output was 7% lower than last year and driven primarily by an increase in the number of community merchants as a percentage of the total.

Speaker #1: Community merchants are growing faster than corporate merchants, and this has a predictable impact on blended economics as they generate materially lower output than corporate merchants as shown in the slide.

Lincoln Mali: Community merchants are growing faster than corporate merchants, and this has a predictable impact on blended economics as they generate materially lower ARPU than corporate merchants, as shown in the slide. As the community segment becomes a larger proportion of the overall base, aggregate merchant ARPU naturally decreases even while engagement levels, transaction volumes, and profitability increase.

Speaker #1: As the community segment becomes a larger proportion of the overall base, aggregate merchant output naturally decreases even while engagement levels transaction volumes and profitability increase.

Speaker #1: Secondly, as mentioned last quarter, the community output reduction was impacted by a network-driven reduction in airtime commission rates. Since that reset, output has been relatively stable quarter on quarter.

Lincoln Mali: Secondly, as mentioned last quarter, the community ARPU reduction was impacted by a network-driven reduction in airtime commission rates. Since that reset, ARPU has been relatively stable quarter on quarter. Within the corporate space, we saw flat performance in ARPU. Our current aggregation of ARPU includes network fees, that is interchange, earned from our corporate segment, but excludes network fees from our community ARPU. We expect to review the definition of corporate ARPU in the new fiscal year to align the treatment of network fees to community ARPU. Product penetration in merchant was flat at 46% for 2 or more products. The merchants with 3 or more products reduced to 7%. The primary driver for this decline is due to the increase in our community merchant base, who typically engage with ADP and acquiring.

Speaker #1: Within the corporate space, we saw flat performance in output. Our current aggregation of output includes network fees that is interchange, earned from our corporate segment, but excludes network fees from our community output.

Speaker #1: We expect to review the definition of corporate output in the new fiscal year to align the treatment of network fees to community output. Product penetration in merchant was flat at 46% for two or more products.

Lincoln Mali: We expect to review the definition of corporate ARPU in the new fiscal year to align the treatment of network fees to community ARPU. Product penetration in merchant was flat at 46% for 2 or more products. The merchants with 3 or more products reduced to 7%. The primary driver for this decline is due to the increase in our community merchant base, who typically engage with ADP and acquiring.

Speaker #1: The merchants with three or more products reduced to 7%. The primary driver for this decline is due to the increase in our community merchant base, who typically engage with ADP and acquiring.

Speaker #1: The total number of merchants with three or more products declined as we refined our lending criteria to the community merchant base. While penetration rates for multi-product accounts have shifted over the period, we are in the early stages of our ecosystem journey.

Lincoln Mali: The total number of merchants with 3 or more products declined as we refined our lending criteria to the community merchant base. While penetration rates for multi-product accounts have shifted over the period, we are in the early stages of our ecosystem journey. Our current performance is intentionally driven by a lend and expand strategy. As seen on the left-hand chart, we have a broad base of merchants through hero products and a set of highly value ancillary products that tie merchants into the Lesaka ecosystem. The core of our thesis remains unchanged. As product density increases, so does the value of the merchant. Within our community merchants, we can see that moving from a standalone solution to a 3-plus product proposition drives a 94% uplift in ARPU. Increasing our product penetration in community relies on merchants, merchant strategy to expand lending and cash to our existing community base.

Speaker #1: Our current performance is intentionally driven by a lend and expand strategy. As seen on the left-hand chart, we have a broad base of merchants through hero products and a set of highly value ancillary products that tie merchants into the Lexaka ecosystem.

Speaker #1: The core of our thesis remains unchanged. As product density increases, so does the value of the merchant. Within our community merchants, we can see that moving from a standalone solution to a C+ product proposition drives a 94% uplift in output.

Lincoln Mali: The core of our thesis remains unchanged. As product density increases, so does the value of the merchant. Within our community merchants, we can see that moving from a standalone solution to a 3-plus product proposition drives a 94% uplift in ARPU. Increasing our product penetration in community relies on merchants, merchant strategy to expand lending and cash to our existing community base.

Speaker #1: Increasing our product penetration in community relies on merchant strategy to expand lending and cash to our existing community base. In the corporate segment, Lexaka experienced a 60% uplift in output when our customers shift from one product to two products.

Lincoln Mali: In the corporate segment, Lesaka experienced a 60% uplift in ARPU when our customers shift from one product to two products. We currently have no corporate clients with three or more products. Our industry specific strategy in merchant is focused on increasing our product penetration in merchant. For example, in the restaurant and hospitality segment, we're adapting our product and sales force to be able to serve our clients with a combination of software, acquiring, lending, and cash. In the fuel industry, we're developing our acquiring and software capabilities to augment our current cash and lending offering. We believe this ecosystem product approach, coupled by a single distribution and servicing capability, will grow percentage of corporate merchants with three or more products in the medium term.

Speaker #1: We currently have no corporate clients with three or more products. Our industry-specific strategy in merchant is focused on increasing our product penetration in merchant.

Speaker #1: For example, in the restaurant and hospitality segment, we are adapting our product and sales force to be able to serve our clients with a combination of software, acquiring, lending, and cash.

Speaker #1: In the fuel industry, we are developing our acquiring and software capabilities to augment our current cash and lending offering. We believe this ecosystem product approach coupled by a single distribution and servicing capability will grow percentage of corporate merchants with three or more products in the medium term.

Lincoln Mali: In the fuel industry, we're developing our acquiring and software capabilities to augment our current cash and lending offering. We believe this ecosystem product approach, coupled by a single distribution and servicing capability, will grow percentage of corporate merchants with three or more products in the medium term. Looking at our merchant volumes for the quarter, card TPV increased by 7% to ZAR 10.6 billion, with active acquiring merchants up 9% to 74,000.

Speaker #1: Looking at our merchant volumes for the quarter, card TPV increased by 7% to 10.6 billion rand, with active acquiring merchants up 9% to 74,000.

Lincoln Mali: Looking at our merchant volumes for the quarter, card TPV increased by 7% to ZAR 10.6 billion, with active acquiring merchants up 9% to 74,000. On the cash side, volume grew 2% with a slight increase in vaults for the quarter of 4,900. Within the base, as with previous quarters, we have seen net reduction in the corporate merchant base and good growth in the community base. The growth of our cash offering in the community merchant space has supported the strong growth in the TPV of our alternative digital products or ADP for short. As community merchants immediately digitize their cash takings in their own vaults or in a nearby merchant, they have more value in their wallets to use for airtime, electricity, and voucher purchases for resale and supplier payments.

Speaker #1: On the cash side, volume grew 2% with a slight increase in volks for the quarter of 4,900. Within the base, as with previous quarters, we have seen net reduction in the corporate merchant base and good growth in the community base.

Lincoln Mali: On the cash side, volume grew 2% with a slight increase in vaults for the quarter of 4,900. Within the base, as with previous quarters, we have seen net reduction in the corporate merchant base and good growth in the community base. The growth of our cash offering in the community merchant space has supported the strong growth in the TPV of our alternative digital products or ADP for short.

Speaker #1: The growth of our cash offering in the community merchant space has supported the strong growth in the TPV of our alternative digital products, or ADP for short.

Speaker #1: As community merchants immediately digitize their cash takings in their own vaults or in a nearby merchant, they have more value in their wallets to use for airtime, electricity, and voucher purchases for resale and supplier payments.

Lincoln Mali: As community merchants immediately digitize their cash takings in their own vaults or in a nearby merchant, they have more value in their wallets to use for airtime, electricity, and voucher purchases for resale and supplier payments. ADP TPV is up 30%, reflecting traction for our offering.

Speaker #1: ADP TPVs up 30%, reflecting traction for our offering. Following the margin compression seen within our prepaid solutions and financial year 2025, particularly airtime, we are pleased to see a normalization and return to growth in these volumes with 11% increase in prepaid solutions products and a 47% increase in supplier-enabled payments.

Lincoln Mali: ADP TPV is up 30%, reflecting traction for our offering. Following the margin compression seen within our prepaid solutions in financial year 2025, particularly airtime, we are pleased to see a normalization and return to growth in these volumes with 11% increase in prepaid solution products and a 47% increase in supplier-enabled payments. Turning to merchant lending, originations in Q3 were 22% lower year-on-year at ZAR 227 million. The comparative period in Q3 of financial year 2025 included unusually high spike in originations from our corporate channel, driven by fuel related lending push and the rollout of pre-approved lending offers late in the year 2024, which then originated in the Q3 financial year 2025.

Lincoln Mali: Following the margin compression seen within our prepaid solutions in financial year 2025, particularly airtime, we are pleased to see a normalization and return to growth in these volumes with 11% increase in prepaid solution products and a 47% increase in supplier-enabled payments. Turning to merchant lending, originations in Q3 were 22% lower year-on-year at ZAR 227 million.

Speaker #1: Turning to merchant lending, originations in quarter three were 22% lower year-on-year, at 227 million rand. The comparative period in quarter three of financial year 2025 included unusually high spike in originations from our corporate channel, driven by fuel-related lending push and the rollout of pre-approved lending offers late in the year 2024, which then originated in the quarter three financial year 2025.

Lincoln Mali: The comparative period in Q3 of financial year 2025 included unusually high spike in originations from our corporate channel, driven by fuel related lending push and the rollout of pre-approved lending offers late in the year 2024, which then originated in the Q3 financial year 2025. While January and February were muted, we did experience a very strong March, much of which was driven by demand in the fuel sector ahead of anticipated price increases. Our lending portfolio closed 4% up at ZAR 427 million.

Speaker #1: While January and February were muted, we did experience a of which was driven by demand in the fuel sector ahead of anticipated price increases.

Lincoln Mali: While January and February were muted, we did experience a very strong March, much of which was driven by demand in the fuel sector ahead of anticipated price increases. Our lending portfolio closed 4% up at ZAR 427 million. We are comfortable with this lending activity, and it reflects a deliberate decision to be conservative in merchant credit whilst we refine our merchant lending offering as part of our broader merchant ecosystem. This is not about a lack of opportunity. It's about exercising capital discipline and protecting the long-term quality of the book. Software, particularly through our Unity platform in the hospitality space, is central to our long-term merchant strategy. Unity is not about site growth alone. It is a cloud native platform that enables the merchant ecosystem and sets the platform for multi-product penetration at scale.

Speaker #1: Our lending portfolio closed 4% up at 427 million rand. We are comfortable with this lending activity and it reflects a deliberate decision to be conservative in merchant credit, whilst we refine our merchant lending offering as part of our broader merchant ecosystem.

Lincoln Mali: We are comfortable with this lending activity, and it reflects a deliberate decision to be conservative in merchant credit whilst we refine our merchant lending offering as part of our broader merchant ecosystem. This is not about a lack of opportunity. It's about exercising capital discipline and protecting the long-term quality of the book. Software, particularly through our Unity platform in the hospitality space, is central to our long-term merchant strategy.

Speaker #1: This is not about the lack of opportunity. It's about exercising capital discipline and protecting the long-term quality of the book. Software, particularly through our Unity platform in the hospitality space, is central to our long-term merchant strategy.

Speaker #1: Unity is not about side growth alone. It is the cloud-native platform that enables the merchant ecosystem and sets the platform for multi-product penetration at scale.

Lincoln Mali: Unity is not about site growth alone. It is a cloud native platform that enables the merchant ecosystem and sets the platform for multi-product penetration at scale. Approximately 50% of all Unity clients are fully integrated into our acquiring proposition, with 80% of all new software clients on board utilizing Unity. In conclusion, we're laying the foundation for a stronger, scalable business through platform consolidation, data and AI investment, and integrated product strategy.

Speaker #1: Approximately 50% of all unity clients are fully integrated into our acquiring proposition, with 80% of all new software clients on board utilizing unity. In conclusion, we are laying the foundation for a stronger, scalable business through platform consolidation, data and AI investment, and integrated product strategy.

Lincoln Mali: Approximately 50% of all Unity clients are fully integrated into our acquiring proposition, with 80% of all new software clients on board utilizing Unity. In conclusion, we're laying the foundation for a stronger, scalable business through platform consolidation, data and AI investment, and integrated product strategy. Consumer had another excellent quarter with 81% increase in segment adjusted EBITDA. As expected, our KPIs have all shown impressive increases with active consumers up 19%, ARPU also up 19%, and cross-sell success continuing its upward trend. Active consumers now stand at over 2 million, with a permanent grant recipients of 1.7 million, representing a 14.6% market share. Forward, our medium to long-term expectation is that we could reach a 25% market share based on our current growth trajectory and distribution plan.

Speaker #1: Consumer had another excellent quarter. With the 81% increase in segment adjusted EBITDA, as expected, our KPIs have all shown impressive increases, with active consumers up 19%, output also up 19%, and cross-sell success continuing its upward trend.

Lincoln Mali: Consumer had another excellent quarter with 81% increase in segment adjusted EBITDA. As expected, our KPIs have all shown impressive increases with active consumers up 19%, ARPU also up 19%, and cross-sell success continuing its upward trend. Active consumers now stand at over 2 million, with a permanent grant recipients of 1.7 million, representing a 14.6% market share. Forward, our medium to long-term expectation is that we could reach a 25% market share based on our current growth trajectory and distribution plan.

Speaker #1: Active consumers now stand at over 2 million, with a permanent grant recipients of 1.7 million, representing a 14.6% market share. Forward, our medium to long-term expectation is that we could reach a 25% market share, based on our current growth trajectory and distribution plan.

Speaker #1: Encouragingly, in quarter three, only three players showed growth during the quarter, of which Lexaka grew the largest. Net additions in quarter three were almost 26,000, more than double our nearest competitor, demonstrating the strong brand and product fit we have developed in the segment.

Lincoln Mali: Encouragingly, in Q3, only 3 players showed growth during the quarter, of which Lesaka grew the largest. Net additions in Q3 were almost 26,000, more than double our nearest competitor, demonstrating the strong brand and product fit we have developed in the segment. Growth is not dependent on competitor dislocation alone. There are approximately 150,000 new grant entrants every month, our expanding distribution footprint positions us strongly to capture a disproportionate share of these new customers. By June, we expect to have increased our footprint to a further 30 community sites and a further 15 new branches. This expansion materially strengthens our access to both urban and rural grant recipients and supports sustainable organic growth. Our ARPU has increased by 19% year-on-year to ZAR 99 per month, driven by continued engagement and cross-sell success.

Speaker #1: Importantly, growth is not dependent on competitor dislocation alone. There are approximately 150,000 new grant entrants every month, and our expanding distribution footprint positions us strongly to capture a disproportionate share of these new customers.

Speaker #1: By June, we expect to have increased our footprint to a further 30 community sites and a further 15 new branches. This expansion materially strengthens our access to both urban and rural grant recipients and supports sustainable organic growth.

Lincoln Mali: By June, we expect to have increased our footprint to a further 30 community sites and a further 15 new branches. This expansion materially strengthens our access to both urban and rural grant recipients and supports sustainable organic growth. Our ARPU has increased by 19% year-on-year to ZAR 99 per month, driven by continued engagement and cross-sell success. At the end of Q3, 20% of our active consumer base was utilizing our full product suite, up from 17% last year, with 50% of our base having two or more products.

Speaker #1: Our output has increased by 19% year-on-year, to 99 rand per month, driven by continued engagement and cross-sell success. At the end of quarter three, 20% of our active consumer base was utilizing our full product suite, up from 17% last year, with 50% of our base having two or more products.

Lincoln Mali: At the end of Q3, 20% of our active consumer base was utilizing our full product suite, up from 17% last year, with 50% of our base having two or more products. This consistent increase in our product penetration rate is a clear demonstration of the power of our value proposition and superior distribution capabilities within the segment. It is a clear indication of our ability to continue to grow. Our lending product has been the key driver of our consumer division's financial performance. In Q3, we originated approximately ZAR 856 million, representing a 33% year-on-year increase, with the outstanding book growing 73% to around ZAR 1.4 billion. This momentum reflects a successful rollout of our 9-month loan product, which now represents nearly 50% of all new lending origination.

Speaker #1: This consistent increase in our product penetration rate is a clear demonstration of the power of our value proposition and superior distribution capabilities within the segment, and is a clear indication of our ability to continue to grow.

Lincoln Mali: This consistent increase in our product penetration rate is a clear demonstration of the power of our value proposition and superior distribution capabilities within the segment. It is a clear indication of our ability to continue to grow. Our lending product has been the key driver of our consumer division's financial performance. In Q3, we originated approximately ZAR 856 million, representing a 33% year-on-year increase, with the outstanding book growing 73% to around ZAR 1.4 billion.

Speaker #1: Our lending product has been the key driver of our consumer division's financial performance. In the third quarter, we originated approximately 856 million rand, representing a 33% year-on-year increase, with the outstanding book growing 73% to around 1.4 billion rand.

Speaker #1: This momentum reflects a successful rollout of our nine-month loan product, which now represents nearly 50% of all new lending origination. We expect this to continue increasing, supporting growth in both book size and average tenor.

Lincoln Mali: This momentum reflects a successful rollout of our 9-month loan product, which now represents nearly 50% of all new lending origination. We expect this to continue increasing, supporting growth in both book size and average tenure. We are also evaluating a modest increase in maximum loan values and repayment terms to meet customer demand while maintaining our disciplined risk framework. We have a deep understanding of our lending base, with a high proportion of originations to repeat and long-tenured customers.

Lincoln Mali: We expect this to continue increasing, supporting growth in both book size and average tenure. We are also evaluating a modest increase in maximum loan values and repayment terms to meet customer demand while maintaining our disciplined risk framework. We have a deep understanding of our lending base, with a high proportion of originations to repeat and long-tenured customers. This supports effective credit scoring, provisioning, and product development. The portfolio continues to perform within normal parameters, and our 6.5% provisioning level remains above the observed risk experience, with any refinements to be communicated transparently at the end of the year. Turning to our funeral and pension plan insurance business, we delivered another very strong quarter. Gross premiums written grew by 38% to ZAR 146 million, while in-force policies increased by 34% to 704,000.

Speaker #1: We are also evaluating a modest increase in maximum loan values and repayment terms to meet customer demand while maintaining our disciplined risk framework. We have a deep understanding of our lending base, with a high proportion of originations to repeat and long-tenored customers.

Speaker #1: This supports effective credit scoring, provisioning, and product development. The portfolio continues to perform within normal parameters, and our 6.5% provision level remains above the observed risk experience, with any refinements to be communicated transparently at the end of the year.

Lincoln Mali: This supports effective credit scoring, provisioning, and product development. The portfolio continues to perform within normal parameters, and our 6.5% provisioning level remains above the observed risk experience, with any refinements to be communicated transparently at the end of the year. Turning to our funeral and pension plan insurance business, we delivered another very strong quarter. Gross premiums written grew by 38% to ZAR 146 million, while in-force policies increased by 34% to 704,000.

Speaker #1: Tending to our funeral and pension plan insurance business, we delivered another very strong quarter. Gross provenance return grew by 38% to 146 million rand while enforced policies increased by 34% to 704,000.

Speaker #1: We have recently started rolling out insurance policy sales to non-Lexaka consumers within the SASA ecosystem. This represents a significant opportunity with an estimated 3 million grant recipients currently uninsured.

Lincoln Mali: We have recently started rolling out insurance policy sales to non-Lesaka consumers within the SASSA ecosystem. This represents a significant opportunity, with an estimated 3 million grant recipients currently uninsured. We are leveraging our existing distribution network and sales force to access this market efficiently. While the initiative is not yet financially material, it is strategically important and directly aligned with our purpose of extending affordable financial protection to underserved communities. Our insurance product is a key driver for compounding our product penetration in the short to medium term. As we increase our attachment rates of insurance at the time of client onboarding, and we increase our standalone insurance sales, we do expect the collection rate to moderate to circa 90% over time. Importantly, we believe this will still result in a net positive gross written premiums for EasyPay.

Speaker #1: We are leveraging our existing distribution network and sales force to access this market efficiently. While the initiative is not yet financially material, it is strategically important and directly aligned with our purpose of extending affordable financial protection to underserved communities.

Speaker #1: Our insurance product is a key driver for compounding our product penetration in the short to medium term. As we increase our attachment rates of insurance at the time of client onboarding, and we increase our standalone insurance sales, we do expect the collection rate to moderate to circa 90% over time.

Lincoln Mali: Our insurance product is a key driver for compounding our product penetration in the short to medium term. As we increase our attachment rates of insurance at the time of client onboarding, and we increase our standalone insurance sales, we do expect the collection rate to moderate to circa 90% over time. Importantly, we believe this will still result in a net positive gross written premiums for EasyPay.

Speaker #1: Importantly, we believe this will still result in a net positive gross return premiums for Lexaka. We believe the overall quality of our insurance book will continue to remain high and compare favorably against the wider insurance market.

Lincoln Mali: We believe the overall quality of our insurance book will continue to remain high and compare favorably against the wider insurance market. The Consumer division continues to demonstrate strong momentum with resilient growth drivers, effective last mile distribution, and clear product relevance. By leveraging our technology and distribution network in tandem, we are confident that Consumer will remain a core engine of value creation for EasyPay, delivering both financial performance and meaningful impact for the community we serve. I will now move on to the performance of our Enterprise division. The Enterprise division continues to make solid progress this quarter, contributing ZAR 35 million or about 10% to group adjusted EBITDA. Strategic progress is evident in ADP TPV for the quarter, which increased 19% year on year.

Speaker #1: The consumer division continues to demonstrate strong momentum with resilient growth drivers, effective last-mile distribution, and clear product relevance. By leveraging our technology and distribution network in tandem, we are confident that consumer will remain a core engine of value creation for Lexaka, delivering both financial performance and meaningful impact for the communities we serve.

Lincoln Mali: By leveraging our technology and distribution network in tandem, we are confident that Consumer will remain a core engine of value creation for EasyPay, delivering both financial performance and meaningful impact for the community we serve. I will now move on to the performance of our Enterprise division. The Enterprise division continues to make solid progress this quarter, contributing ZAR 35 million or about 10% to group adjusted EBITDA. Strategic progress is evident in ADP TPV for the quarter, which increased 19% year on year.

Speaker #1: I will now move on to the performance of our enterprise division. The enterprise division continues to make solid progress this quarter. Contributing 35 million rand, or about 10%, to group-adjusted EBITDA, strategic progress is evident in ADP TPV for the quarter, which increased 19% year-on-year.

Speaker #1: Bill payments were up 12.5% to 9 billion rand, and prepaid solutions grew by more than 50% to 2.8 billion rand, as we continue to expand our collector and receiver ecosystem.

Lincoln Mali: Bill payments were up 12.5% to ZAR 9 billion, and prepaid solutions grew by more than 50% to ZAR 2.8 billion as we continue to expand our collector and receiver ecosystem. As highlighted in previous quarters, we've also partnered with several key players, increasing our distribution and collection footprint. We are now seeing the growth from our channel partners driven by targeted marketing campaigns. Our ADP take rate improved by 22% to 1.3%. As a reminder, we earn a fixed fee per bill payment transaction. However, we earn a commission on TPV for facilitating buying and selling of prepaid solutions. As the business scales the prepaid solution offering, we will see a product blend leaning towards an ad valorem revenue model.

Speaker #1: As highlighted in previous quarters, we've also partnered with several key players, increasing our distribution and collection footprint. We are now seeing the growth from our channel partners, driven by targeted marketing campaigns.

Speaker #1: Our ADP take rate improved by 22% to 1.3%. As a reminder, we earn a fixed fee per bill payment transaction. However, we earn a commission on TPV for facilitating buying and selling of prepaid solutions, as the business scales the prepaid solution offering.

Lincoln Mali: However, we earn a commission on TPV for facilitating buying and selling of prepaid solutions. As the business scales the prepaid solution offering, we will see a product blend leaning towards an ad valorem revenue model. In Utilities, TPV increased 18% to ZAR 477 million on a like-for-like basis, with active meters rising to 368,000. Excitingly, in Q4, we will launch an electricity advance product to our Utilities customers.

Speaker #1: We will see a product blend leaning towards an ad valorem revenue model. In utilities, TPV increased 18% to 477 million rand on a like-for-like basis, with active meters rising to 368,000.

Lincoln Mali: In Utilities, TPV increased 18% to ZAR 477 million on a like-for-like basis, with active meters rising to 368,000. Excitingly, in Q4, we will launch an electricity advance product to our Utilities customers. This product will allow Lesaka Utilities customers with active meters to load electricity when they are short of funds via an interest-free facility. The business model is simple, as we will charge a flat fee for the service and recover the advance from future purchases. We look forward to sharing more information as the product rolls out through the bank. Thank you. That concludes our operational review. I will hand back to Ali now for the outlook.

Speaker #1: Excitingly, in quarter four, we will launch an electricity advanced product to our utilities customers. This product will allow Lexaka utilities customers with active meters to load electricity when they are short of funds via an interest-free facility.

Lincoln Mali: This product will allow Lesaka Utilities customers with active meters to load electricity when they are short of funds via an interest-free facility. The business model is simple, as we will charge a flat fee for the service and recover the advance from future purchases. We look forward to sharing more information as the product rolls out through the bank. Thank you. That concludes our operational review. I will hand back to Ali now for the outlook.

Speaker #1: The business model is simple. As we will charge a flat fee for the service, and recover the advance from future purchases, we look forward to sharing more information as the product rolls out through the base.

Speaker #1: Thank you. That concludes our operational review. I will hand back to Ali now for the outlook. Thank you, Lincoln. Innovation is at the heart of who we are.

Ali Mazanderani: Thank you, Lincoln. Innovation is at the heart of who we are. We don't just want to win the game, we want to change the game. We thought to provide examples of 3 strategic initiatives that demonstrate that across our businesses and which set the foundation for our continued competitive advantage. Firstly, we believe payment rails globally will increasingly move to blockchain as a superior underpin from a resilience, availability, and cost of settlement perspective. We also believe that in the South African context, a ZAR-denominated stablecoin will form the foundation of this. As a founding partner of ZARU, we intend to pioneer use cases across our ecosystem to allow consumers and merchants to settle securely and at low cost, eliminating the friction of traditional banking hours and fees.

Speaker #1: We don't just want to win the game. We want to change the game. So we thought to provide examples of three strategic initiatives that demonstrate that across our businesses and which set the foundation for our continued competitive advantage.

Speaker #1: Firstly, we believe payment rails globally will increasingly move to blockchain, as a superior underpin from a resilience, availability, and cost of settlement perspective. We also believe that in the South African context, a ZAR-denominated stablecoin will form the foundation of this.

Ali Mazanderani: We also believe that in the South African context, a ZAR-denominated stablecoin will form the foundation of this. As a founding partner of ZARU, we intend to pioneer use cases across our ecosystem to allow consumers and merchants to settle securely and at low cost, eliminating the friction of traditional banking hours and fees. We will provide more updates on what we are doing and what this should mean at our end of year investor presentation.

Speaker #1: As a founding partner of ZARU, we intend to pioneer use cases across our ecosystem, to allow consumers and merchants to settle securely and at low cost, eliminating the friction of traditional banking hours and fees.

Speaker #1: We will provide more updates on what we are doing and what this should mean at our end-of-year investor presentation. Secondly, the scarcity of credit provided in a frictionless, fair, and sustainable manner across the continent is a major opportunity for us.

Ali Mazanderani: We will provide more updates on what we are doing and what this should mean at our end of year investor presentation. Secondly, the scarcity of credit provided in a frictionless, fair, and sustainable manner across the continent is a major opportunity for us. We choose to focus in making that credit available to underserviced consumers and merchants, where traditional banks don't have the capability, competency, or desire to compete. One focus for us in this respect is in short-term credit advances against utility products like airtime, data, and electricity. You will see increased activity from us in this space, leveraging either touch points to our existing banking customers through an app or USSD channels, or utility customers in homes where we provide the electricity meter. In both instances, we would expect to have an advantage in repayments vis-a-vis others.

Ali Mazanderani: Secondly, the scarcity of credit provided in a frictionless, fair, and sustainable manner across the continent is a major opportunity for us. We choose to focus in making that credit available to underserviced consumers and merchants, where traditional banks don't have the capability, competency, or desire to compete. One focus for us in this respect is in short-term credit advances against utility products like airtime, data, and electricity.

Speaker #1: We choose to focus on making that credit available to underserviced consumers and merchants, where traditional banks don't have the capability or competency or desire to compete.

Speaker #1: One focus for us in this respect is in short-term credit advances against utility products like airtime, data, and electricity. You will see increased activity from us in this space.

Ali Mazanderani: You will see increased activity from us in this space, leveraging either touch points to our existing banking customers through an app or USSD channels, or utility customers in homes where we provide the electricity meter. In both instances, we would expect to have an advantage in repayments vis-a-vis others.

Speaker #1: Leveraging either touchpoints to our existing banking customers through an app or USSD channels, or utility customers in homes where we provide the electricity meter, in both instances, we would expect to have an advantage in repayments vis-à-vis others.

Speaker #1: Thirdly, the explosion in AI tools offers a wonderful opportunity for a pioneering technology company with digital enablement and efficiency of operations at the heart of our values in competitive advantage.

Ali Mazanderani: Thirdly, the explosion in AI tools offers a wonderful opportunity for a pioneering technology company with digital enablement and efficiency of operations at the heart of our values and competitive advantage to further this advantage relative to traditional incumbents with legacy platforms. We are actively embedding AI tools across our group, from engineering teams code development to new product launches, to fraud management and operational efficiencies that allow us to better provide services more securely and more sustainably, complementing our human engagements. Again, we will be providing in due course more details on some specific initiatives and the impact thereof. Turning to guidance, we are tightening our guidance forecasts for the rest of this financial year. We are updating our net revenue guidance to ZAR 6.2 billion to 6.5 billion for FY26, the midpoint of which implies 20% year-on-year growth.

Speaker #1: To further this advantage, relative to traditional incumbents, with legacy platforms. We are actively embedding AI tools across our group, from engineering teams' code development to new product launches, to fraud management, and operational efficiencies that allow us to better provide services more securely and more sustainably.

Ali Mazanderani: We are actively embedding AI tools across our group, from engineering teams code development to new product launches, to fraud management and operational efficiencies that allow us to better provide services more securely and more sustainably, complementing our human engagements. Again, we will be providing in due course more details on some specific initiatives and the impact thereof. Turning to guidance, we are tightening our guidance forecasts for the rest of this financial year.

Speaker #1: Complementing our human engagements. Again, we will be providing in due course more details on some specific initiatives and the impact thereof. Turning to guidance, we are tightening our guidance forecasts for the rest of this financial year.

Speaker #1: We are updating our net revenue guidance to 6.2 billion rand to 6.5 billion rand for FY26. The midpoint of which implies 20% year-on-year growth.

Ali Mazanderani: We are updating our net revenue guidance to ZAR 6.2 billion to 6.5 billion for FY26, the midpoint of which implies 20% year-on-year growth. We are on track to deliver our group adjusted EBITDA guidance for the year, as we did for this quarter, also tightening the guidance range to ZAR 1.25 billion to 1.35 billion, implying we expect to come in at the bottom end of the previous range. The midpoint of our updated group adjusted EBITDA guidance implies 43% year-on-year growth for FY26.

Speaker #1: We are on track to deliver our group-adjusted EBITDA guidance for the year as we did for this quarter. But also tightening the guidance range to 1.25 billion rand to 1.35 billion rand.

Ali Mazanderani: We are on track to deliver our group adjusted EBITDA guidance for the year, as we did for this quarter, also tightening the guidance range to ZAR 1.25 billion to 1.35 billion, implying we expect to come in at the bottom end of the previous range. The midpoint of our updated group adjusted EBITDA guidance implies 43% year-on-year growth for FY26. We are also updating our adjusted earnings per share guidance for the year. We previously provided guidance of at least ZAR 4.60 per share. We are now raising this to a range of ZAR 5.50 to 6.00 per share, the midpoint of which implies a growth greater than 150% on a year-on-year basis. We will increasingly reference our adjusted EPS as the primary measure of our profitability.

Speaker #1: Implying we expect to come in at the bottom end of the previous range. The midpoint of our updated group-adjusted EBITDA guidance implies 43% year-on-year growth for FY26.

Speaker #1: We are also updating our adjusted earnings per share guidance for the year. We previously provided guidance of at least 4.60 rand per share, and we are now raising this to a range of 5.50 rand to 6.00 rand per share.

Ali Mazanderani: We are also updating our adjusted earnings per share guidance for the year. We previously provided guidance of at least ZAR 4.60 per share. We are now raising this to a range of ZAR 5.50 to 6.00 per share, the midpoint of which implies a growth greater than 150% on a year-on-year basis. We will increasingly reference our adjusted EPS as the primary measure of our profitability.

Speaker #1: The midpoint of which implies a growth greater than 150% on a year-on-year basis. We will increasingly reference our adjusted EPS as the primary measure of our profitability.

Speaker #1: We are also reaffirming from a net income perspective without exclusions we expect to be profitable for FY26. The first year this will be the case, since the creation of Lexaka four years ago in May 2022.

Ali Mazanderani: We are also reaffirming from a net income perspective, without exclusions, we expect to be profitable for FY26, the first year this will be the case since the creation of Lesaka 4 years ago in May 2022. In our end of year presentation in September, we will be providing our guidance for FY27 and also our medium-term outlook for the next 3 years. Given that we expect the Bank Zero acquisition to be completed in the coming months, that being so, we will be providing guidance for FY27 and the medium-term outlook inclusive of Bank Zero. Thank you for attending our earnings presentation. We will now address any questions you have for the team.

Speaker #1: In our end-of-year presentation in September, we will be providing our guidance for FY27, and also a medium-term outlook for the next three years. Given that we expect the Bank Zero acquisition to be completed in the coming months, that being so, we will be providing guidance for FY27 and the medium-term outlook, inclusive of Bank Zero.

Ali Mazanderani: Given that we expect the Bank Zero acquisition to be completed in the coming months, that being so, we will be providing guidance for FY27 and the medium-term outlook inclusive of Bank Zero. Thank you for attending our earnings presentation. We will now address any questions you have for the team.

Speaker #1: Thank you for attending our earnings presentation. We will now address any questions you have for the team.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Ali, Dan, and Lincoln. Chorus call. Please, can you open the line for Ross Kricher from INVESTAC?

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thank you, Ali, Dan, and Lincoln. chorus call, please can you open the line for Ross Kriel from Investec?

Speaker #3: Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks very much for the call.

Ross Kriel: Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks very much for the call. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks very much for the call. Three questions from me. Just firstly on the consumer, just with regard to the very strong margin accretion that we're seeing, consistently over time, and the jump up in Q3. If I look ahead at some of the opportunities there, you're talking about the volume growth prospects, the size of the market that you're addressing there. You've talked about the cross-selling prospects and that you've executed on that. You've alluded to that comment on risk performance being better than what your provisioning suggests, which you'll give more detail on.

Ross Krige: Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks very much for the call. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks very much for the call. Three questions from me. Just firstly on the consumer, just with regard to the very strong margin accretion that we're seeing, consistently over time, and the jump up in Q3. If I look ahead at some of the opportunities there, you're talking about the volume growth prospects, the size of the market that you're addressing there.

Speaker #4: Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks very much for the call. Three questions from me. Just firstly, on the consumer just with regard to the very strong margin accretion that we're seeing consistently over time, and the jump up at NQ3.

Speaker #4: If I look ahead at some of the opportunities there, so you're talking about the volume growth prospects, the size of the market that you're addressing there, you've talked about the cross-selling prospects and how you've executed on that.

Ross Krige: You've talked about the cross-selling prospects and that you've executed on that. You've alluded to that comment on risk performance being better than what your provisioning suggests, which you'll give more detail on. If I put all of that together, and think about operating leverage going ahead, am I correct in saying that that points to significantly higher EBITDA margins even off this base? That's the first question. I can carry on if you like.

Speaker #4: And then you've alluded to that comment on risk performance being better than what you're provisioning suggests, which you'll give more detail on. But if I put all of that together, and think about operating leverage ahead, am I correct in saying that that points to significantly higher EBITDA margins, even off this base?

Ross Kriel: If I put all of that together, and think about operating leverage going ahead, am I correct in saying that that points to significantly higher EBITDA margins even off this base? That's the first question. I can carry on if you like.

Speaker #4: That's the first question. I can carry on if you like. We can address that one if it's helpful for us first. I mean, the short answer is we do see the ability to continue to expand those margins.

Ali Mazanderani: We can address that one if it's helpful, Ross, first. I mean, the short answer is we do see the ability to continue to expand those margins. I mean, year on year, those margins have gone from 26% to 34% in the consumer business. Yes, we believe there's more room for growth as we scale that platform.

Speaker #4: I mean, year on year, those margins have gone from 26% to 34% in the consumer business. And yes, we do believe there's more room for growth as we scale that platform.

Speaker #3: Great, thanks, Ali. Okay, moving on to merchants. So, just two parts to this question. One on the RPO dynamics—so Lincoln explained a lot of this, but maybe just in terms of the outlook.

Ross Kriel: Great. Thanks, Ali. Okay, moving on to merchants. Just two parts to this question. One on the ARPU dynamics. Lincoln explained a lot of this, but maybe just in terms of the outlook, if I look at active merchants by type, across corporate and community, should we expect to see stable ARPU going forward or some pressure as the mix changes within each of those segments? Just any comment on the next 6 to 12 months. On profitability, clearly the margin improved there as well as you talked about.

Ross Krige: Great. Thanks, Ali. Okay, moving on to merchants. Just two parts to this question. One on the ARPU dynamics. Lincoln explained a lot of this, but maybe just in terms of the outlook, if I look at active merchants by type, across corporate and community, should we expect to see stable ARPU going forward or some pressure as the mix changes within each of those segments? Just any comment on the next 6 to 12 months. On profitability, clearly the margin improved there as well as you talked about.

Speaker #3: If I look at the merchant active merchants by type, so across corporate and community, should we expect to see stable RPO going forward, or some pressure as the mix changes within each of those segments?

Speaker #3: Or, yeah, just any comment on the next 6 to 12 months? And then on profitability, clearly the margin improved there as well, as you talked about.

Speaker #3: I'm just trying to understand what the sort of runway, if we look at the next six months, 12 months, whether or not some of the, I guess, cost-saving activities that you've embarked on will still come through and how long that runway is.

Ross Kriel: I'm just trying to understand what the sort of runway, if we look at the next, I guess, 6 months, 12 months, whether or not some of the, I guess, cost saving activities that you've embarked on will still come through and how long that runway is?

Ross Krige: I'm just trying to understand what the sort of runway, if we look at the next, I guess, 6 months, 12 months, whether or not some of the, I guess, cost saving activities that you've embarked on will still come through and how long that runway is?

Speaker #4: So I mean, I think I'm not sure, Ross, if it was you at the last call or somebody else who asked the question around how we see the evolution of the margin and our perspective is that we see a continuation of the evolution in the next quarter.

Ali Mazanderani: I mean, I think, I'm not sure, Ross, if it was you at the last call or somebody else who asked the question around how we see the evolution of the margin. You know, our perspective is that we see a continuation of the evolution in the next quarter. However, from FY27, we do expect to see a different trajectory there. Giving you a little bit more granularity around that. Obviously, we have a smaller ARPU in the community space than in the corporate space, but the community space is growing faster.

Speaker #4: However, from FY27, we do expect to see a different trajectory there. And giving you a little bit more granularity around that, obviously, we have a smaller RPO in the community space than in the corporate space, but the community space is growing faster.

Speaker #4: However, within community RPO, we expect in the coming year to see an increase both because of the scale and quality of customers that we onboard, as well as because we expect to have an increase in the product penetration within that base.

Ali Mazanderani: However, within community ARPU, we expect in the coming year to see an increase, both because of the scale and quality of customers that we onboard, as well as because we expect to have an increase in the product penetration within that base. In a similar way as we experienced that in the consumer business. What I would also say is that the ARPU, while, you know, the number of merchants in the ARPU is a good representation of the net revenue, and that's why we're focusing the net revenue drivers on that, it doesn't always speak to margin. That margin is both the gross margin and the EBITDA margin. We believe that we have room in both capacities.

Speaker #4: In a similar way as we experienced that in the consumer business. What I would also say is that the RPO, while the number of merchants and the RPO is a good representation of the net revenue, and that's why we're focusing the net revenue drivers on that, it doesn't obviously speak to margin.

Speaker #4: And that margin is both the gross margin and the EBITDA margin. And we believe that we have room in both capacities. From an EBITDA margin perspective in the merchant business, this quarter last year, we had an 18.7% margin, and this obviously in this quarter, it's north of 20%.

Ali Mazanderani: That margin is both the gross margin and the EBITDA margin. We believe that we have room in both capacities. From an EBITDA margin perspective in the merchant business, this quarter last year, we had an 18.7% margin, and this, obviously in this quarter, it's north of 20%. And that's despite the fact that obviously the revenue performance was not where we expect it to be going forward. We do see that margin having substantive room for growth.

Ali Mazanderani: From an EBITDA margin perspective in the merchant business, this quarter last year, we had an 18.7% margin, and this, obviously in this quarter, it's north of 20%. And that's despite the fact that obviously the revenue performance was not where we expect it to be going forward. We do see that margin having substantive room for growth. I think we have previously communicated that we think the merchant business should be targeting EBITDA margins of closer to 30%. You know, execution will define how quickly we get there. Like the consumer business evolving EBITDA margin, the merchant business should follow a similar trajectory.

Speaker #4: And that's despite the fact that, obviously, the revenue performance was not where we expected it to be going forward. We do see that margin having substantive room for growth.

Speaker #4: I think we have previously communicated that we think the merchant business should be targeting EBITDA margins of closer to 30%. And execution will define how quickly we get there.

Ali Mazanderani: I think we have previously communicated that we think the merchant business should be targeting EBITDA margins of closer to 30%. You know, execution will define how quickly we get there. Like the consumer business evolving EBITDA margin, the merchant business should follow a similar trajectory.

Speaker #4: But like the consumer business is evolving, EBITDA margin, the merchant business should follow a similar trajectory. Just from a Lexaka perspective as a whole, I think it's probably also worth observing that we see operational leverage there as well.

Ali Mazanderani: From a Lesaka perspective as a whole, I think it's probably also worth observing that we see operational leverage there as well. While we have made some investments in group costs, we don't expect that to be growing at the same rate as our EBITDA margin. Group EBITDA margins, which have gone from 17% to 21%, we expect to also be increasing substantively. The question on the sort of, you know, the margins within the businesses, you always have to look at a few different components from the ARPU perspective. The first one is the mix between corporate and community, where there are differential components. The second one is the cross-sell, how effective we are in basically layering the product, 'cause obviously you make much more ARPU around them.

Speaker #4: While we have made some investments in group costs, we don't expect that to be growing at the same rate as our EBITDA margin. So group EBITDA margins, which have gone from 17% to 21%, we expect to also be increasing substantively.

Speaker #4: The question on the sort of the margins within the businesses, you always have to look at a few different components on the RPO from the RPO perspective.

Speaker #4: So the first one is the mix between corporate and community, where there are differential components. The second one is the cross-sell. How effective we are in basically layering the product, because obviously you make much more RPO around them.

Ali Mazanderani: The first one is the mix between corporate and community, where there are differential components. The second one is the cross-sell, how effective we are in basically layering the product, 'cause obviously you make much more ARPU around them. The third is there is, because ARPU is just a revenue number, some aspects of seasonality associated with it.

Ali Mazanderani: The third is there is, because ARPU is just a revenue number, some aspects of seasonality associated with it. If you were to have looked, say, for example, back to last quarter, because it was, you know, during the festive season, you would expect there to be larger volumes of throughput, so you'd expect there to be larger ARPU as well. The final thing to consider, in that respect is obviously the margins per product. You will get, going forward, better understanding of those underlying drivers, because we will be providing at the end of year presentation some of the second derivatives of that.

Speaker #4: The third is there is, because RPO is just a revenue number, some aspects of seasonality. Associated with it. So if you were to have looked, say, for example, back to last quarter, because it was during the festive season, you would expect there to be larger volumes of throughput.

Ali Mazanderani: If you were to have looked, say, for example, back to last quarter, because it was, you know, during the festive season, you would expect there to be larger volumes of throughput, so you'd expect there to be larger ARPU as well. The final thing to consider, in that respect is obviously the margins per product. You will get, going forward, better understanding of those underlying drivers, because we will be providing at the end of year presentation some of the second derivatives of that.

Speaker #4: So, you'd expect there to be larger RPO as well. And the final thing to consider in that respect is, obviously, the margins per product.

Speaker #4: And you will get going forward better understanding of those underlying drivers because we will be providing at the end of year presentation some of the second derivatives of that.

Speaker #4: But in essence, the focus in the merchant business over this year has been about trying to improve the quality. Trying to improve the unit economics, as we signposted, because we want to be scaling into something that has excellent return profile around it.

Ali Mazanderani: In essence, the focus in the merchant business over this year has been about trying to improve the quality, trying to improve the unit economics as we signposted, because we want to be scaling into something that has a excellent return profile around it. We are still in the process of doing that. I think that the strategic intent is ahead of the operational reality there, whereas in the consumer business, I think we are fully in the in the slipstream of where we want it to be. One thing I would just emphasize within that consumer business is there remains within our core product offering for the SASSA grant recipients material room, but that is not where we are circumscribing our aspiration.

Speaker #4: And we are still in the process of doing that. I think that the strategic intent is ahead of the operational reality there, whereas in the consumer business, I think we are fully in the slipstream of where we want it to be.

Speaker #4: One thing I would just emphasize within that consumer business is there remains within our core product offering for the SASA grant recipients, material room.

Ali Mazanderani: One thing I would just emphasize within that consumer business is there remains within our core product offering for the SASSA grant recipients material room, but that is not where we are circumscribing our aspiration. Clearly, we have an aspiration, obviously, to extend that as well. There's sort of, the existing market share within the existing segment, and then there's the opportunity to move into adjacent segments.

Speaker #4: But that is not where we are circumscribing our aspiration. Clearly, we have an aspiration, obviously, to extend that as well. So there's sort of the existing market share within the existing segment.

Ali Mazanderani: Clearly, we have an aspiration, obviously, to extend that as well. There's sort of, the existing market share within the existing segment, and then there's the opportunity to move into adjacent segments.

Speaker #4: And then there's the opportunity to move into adjacent segments.

Speaker #3: Great. Thanks, Adi. Understood. Thank you. On the enterprise and utilities, just wondering, if hello? On enterprise and utilities, just wondering if you could guide on what the net financial impact for the group could be from migrating the other subproducts of ADP volumes and merchants.

Ross Kriel: Right. Thanks, Ali. Understood. Thank you. On enterprise and Utilities, just wondering if you could guide on what the net financial impact to the group could be from migrating the other sub-products of ADP volumes in merchant.

Ross Krige: Right. Thanks, Ali. Understood. Thank you. On enterprise and Utilities, just wondering if you could guide on what the net financial impact to the group could be from migrating the other sub-products of ADP volumes in merchant.

Ali Mazanderani: Sorry, Ross. I didn't, I don't think I heard that properly.

Speaker #4: Ross. I don't think I heard that properly.

Speaker #3: Sorry. I'll repeat. So on enterprise and specifically within utilities, I think there was a comment on migrating some of the subproducts of ADP volumes to the prepaid volumes into merchant.

Ross Kriel: Sorry, I'll repeat. On enterprise and specifically within utilities, I think there was a comment on migrating some of the sub-products of ADP volumes. The prepaid volumes into merchant, I think specifically. I think there was a comment that they'll be migrating the rest of those products, the rest of the sub-products of ADP volume from in enterprise.

Ross Krige: Sorry, I'll repeat. On enterprise and specifically within utilities, I think there was a comment on migrating some of the sub-products of ADP volumes. The prepaid volumes into merchant, I think specifically. I think there was a comment that they'll be migrating the rest of those products, the rest of the sub-products of ADP volume from in enterprise.

Speaker #3: I think specifically. And then on the I think there was a comment that there would be migrating the rest of those products, the rest of the subproducts of ADP volume from into enterprise.

Ali Mazanderani: It, so what is I understand. I understand. Basically, think of the enterprise division, in addition to having external customers, 750 corporate clients. It's also servicing ourselves. There is operational efficiencies that can be released as a consequence of that, which should speak again to margin improvement across the group. Part of which would be represented in the segment that it services, both consumer and merchant would ultimately be consumers of enterprise services, but would also then be represented in the enterprise businesses margin. It would be distributed.

Speaker #4: I understand. I understand. So basically, think of the enterprise division in addition to having external customers, 750 corporate clients. It's also servicing ourselves. And there is operational efficiencies that can be released as a consequence of that, which should speak again to margin improvement across the group.

Speaker #4: Part of which would be represented in the segment that it services, both consumer and merchant, would ultimately be consumers of enterprise services. But would also then be represented in the enterprise business's margin.

Ali Mazanderani: Part of which would be represented in the segment that it services, both consumer and merchant would ultimately be consumers of enterprise services, but would also then be represented in the enterprise businesses margin. It would be distributed.

Speaker #4: So it would be distributed exactly the quantity of it. It's I'd say probably less about the scale of the operational cost saving and more about the control and the quality that we can provide as a consequence of bringing it in-house and not having third-party dependencies on our ecosystem that affects our product delivery.

Ali Mazanderani: Exactly the quantity of it's I'd say probably less about the scale of the operational cost saving and more about the control and the quality that we can provide as a consequence of bringing it in-house and not having third party dependencies on our ecosystem that affects our product delivery. That ultimately will speak to our promise to our customers.

Speaker #4: And that ultimately will speak to our promise to our customers. There's also there is some economic scale, however, in being able to aggregate our purchasing capacity, right?

Ross Kriel: Understood. Thanks very much, Ali.

Ross Krige: Understood. Thanks very much, Ali.

Ali Mazanderani: There is some economy of scale, however, in being able to aggregate our purchasing capacity, right? We will clearly be a very material player as a consequence of that aggregation. We do expect to see margin improvement on what we can buy as a consequence.

Speaker #4: We will clearly be a very material player as a consequence of that aggregation. So, we do expect to see margin improvement on what we can buy as a consequence.

Speaker #3: Makes sense. Thanks a lot.

Ross Kriel: Makes sense. Thanks a lot.

Ross Krige: Makes sense. Thanks a lot.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Ross. I'm going to move now to Frank Ging from Briarwood Capital.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thanks, Ross. I'm going to move now to Frank Gill from Briarwood Capital.

Speaker #5: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Just had two quick ones on consumer one is, I guess, what's driving the greater RPO numbers year over year and sequentially?

Frank Gill: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. just had 2 quick ones on consumer. One is, I guess, what's driving the greater ARPU numbers year over year and sequentially? Is that mostly kind of the loan and the insurance book or any other initiatives? Secondly, on the margin, yeah, it seemed a bit higher versus the past, and especially kind of on an incremental basis. Curious what's driving that. Is that mostly kind of lending or there's a provisioning kind of step down? Just any color on that. Thanks.

Frank Geng: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. just had 2 quick ones on consumer. One is, I guess, what's driving the greater ARPU numbers year over year and sequentially? Is that mostly kind of the loan and the insurance book or any other initiatives? Secondly, on the margin, yeah, it seemed a bit higher versus the past, and especially kind of on an incremental basis. Curious what's driving that. Is that mostly kind of lending or there's a provisioning kind of step down? Just any color on that. Thanks.

Speaker #5: Is that mostly kind of the loan and the insurance book or any other initiatives? And then secondly, on the margin, yeah, it seemed a bit higher versus the past, and especially kind of on an incremental basis.

Speaker #5: So curious what's driving that. Is that mostly kind of lending or there's a provisioning kind of step down? Just any color on that. Thanks.

Ali Mazanderani: Lincoln, do you wanna have a go?

Speaker #4: Lincoln, do you want to have a go?

Ali Mazanderani: Lincoln, do you wanna have a go?

Speaker #1: Yeah.

Lincoln Mali: Yeah. Thanks, Frank. I think as we've highlighted before, our ability to cross-sell is a key part of our success. The distribution model that we have enables us to be where the customer is and cross-sell the loan and cross-sell the insurance. I think that you're starting to see that growth, and that momentum will continue. The other things that Ali is mentioning will be adding to that, but for now, there's still room within that consumer base to be able to cross-sell the loans and be able to cross-sell the insurance.

Speaker #4: So thanks, Frank. I think as we've highlighted before, our ability to cross-sell is a key, key part of our success. The distribution model that we have enables us to be where the customer is and cross-sell the loan and cross-sell the insurance.

Speaker #4: And I think that you're starting to see that growth. And that momentum will continue. The other things that Ali is mentioning will be adding to that.

Speaker #4: But for now, they're still room within that consumer base to be able to cross-sell the loans and be able to cross-sell the insurance. Already, when you look at some of the numbers, you're starting to see that over 50% of our clients have got two or more products with us.

Lincoln Mali: Already when you look at some of our numbers, you're starting to see that over 50% of our clients have got 2 or more products with us, and that more than 20% of our clients have got, you know, 2 products with us. You're starting to see that we've got that ability to cross-sell even more into that base, and that will improve the business, you know, substantially.

Speaker #4: And that more than 20% of our clients have got two products with us. So you're starting to see that we've got that ability to cross-sell even more into that base.

Speaker #4: And that will improve the business substantially.

Speaker #1: Great. Thanks, guys.

Frank Gill: Great. Thanks, guys.

Frank Geng: Great. Thanks, guys.

Lincoln Mali: The second question, provisions. Yeah. I think the overall outlook on our provision has been very conservative. We have tried to remain in line with the risk that we see, but we have signaled that there are opportunities to make some changes. When we do make those changes, we'll be transparent about what those changes are looking like. For now, even all the new changes that we've made in the loan product, both in terms of the duration of the loan and the size of the loan, has not seen any material change in the quality of the book. The quality of the book remains very, very good.

Speaker #4: Second question. Provisions. Yeah. I think the overall outlook on our provision has been very conservative. We have tried to remain in line with the risk that we see.

Speaker #4: But we have signaled that there are opportunities to make some changes. And when we do make those changes, we'll be transparent about what those changes are looking like.

Speaker #4: But for now, even all the new changes that we've made in the loan product, both in terms of the duration of the loan and the size of the loan, has not seen any material change in the quality of the book, the quality of the book, remains very, very good.

Lincoln Mali: For now, even all the new changes that we've made in the loan product, both in terms of the duration of the loan and the size of the loan, has not seen any material change in the quality of the book. The quality of the book remains very, very good.

Speaker #1: Got it. Thanks, guys.

Frank Gill: Got it. Thanks, guys.

Frank Geng: Got it. Thanks, guys.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Frank. We are going to move to questions from the webcast now. And we have a few questions from James Slabert from SBG Securities.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thank you, Frank. We are going to move to questions from the webcast now. We have a few questions from James Labbert from SBG Securities. Question one, since the start of the Middle East conflict, are there any particular developments you have observed in consumer and merchant? Talk about collectibility of premiums and loan repayments, but also credit quality. Any commentary on the resilience of clients would be appreciated.

Speaker #3: Question one. Since the start of the Middle East conflict, are there any particular developments you have observed in consumer and merchant? Talk about collectibility of premiums and loan repayments, but also credit quality.

Speaker #3: Any commentary on the resilience of clients would be appreciated.

Speaker #4: I mean, I think that the substantial terms, the answer is not really in terms of issues relating to credit quality or there's obviously a consequence of the Middle Eastern events in terms of the cost of fuel.

Ali Mazanderani: I mean, I think in substantial terms, the answer is not really in terms of issues relating to credit quality or there's obviously a consequence of the Middle Eastern events in terms of the cost of fuel and so disposable income from the market as a whole. I would just emphasize that we are really not a proxy on the market. Our opportunity is in effectively growing substantively our share in the market by having a superior proposition. You know, our expected growth rates are more around our capacity to either peg market share or alternatively by growing a market that is currently not digitized. I don't know, Lincoln, if you have anything specific you wanna add to that?

Speaker #4: And so disposable income from the market as a whole. But I would just emphasize that we are really not a proxy on the market.

Speaker #4: Our opportunity is in effectively growing substantively our share in the market by having a superior proposition. And so our expected growth rates are more around our capacity to either take market share or alternatively by growing a market that is currently not digitized.

Ali Mazanderani: You know, our expected growth rates are more around our capacity to either peg market share or alternatively by growing a market that is currently not digitized. I don't know, Lincoln, if you have anything specific you wanna add to that?

Speaker #4: I don't know, Lincoln, if you have anything specific you want to add to that.

Lincoln Mali: Yeah. I would say the same thing that Ali said. In the actual core business, we have not seen any material changes that are there. Of course, you know, there are, you know, long-term impacts that are there in the broader society. In our business, there is no material impact that we see, either in our ability to collect or in the credit quality or in any of the performances of the underlying business.

Speaker #5: Yeah. I would say the same thing that Ali said. In the actual core business, we have not seen any material changes that are there.

Speaker #5: Of course, there are long-term impacts that are there in the broader society. But in our business, there is no material impact that we see either in our ability to collect or in the credit quality or in any of the performance of the underlying business.

Speaker #4: And then, Dan, if you have anything.

Ali Mazanderani: Dan, if you have anything.

Speaker #2: I think I'd add to that is, yeah, when there's dislocation in the market, it creates an opportunity for us to respond to our customers' and our clients' needs as well.

Dan Smith: The only thing I'd add to that is, yeah, when there's dislocation in the market, it creates an opportunity for us to respond to our customers and our clients' needs as well. We successfully did that in our merchant business in March, which was, let's call it, the starting point in the Middle East conflict with fuel prices increasing. Gave us an opportunity to support our fuel merchants. In our consumer business, yeah, should this lead to elevated inflation, it might create an opportunity there for us to support our clients, of course, within appropriate credit measures.

Speaker #2: We successfully did that in our merchant business in March, which was let's call it the starting point in the Middle East conflict with fuel prices increasing, gave us an opportunity to support our fuel merchants.

Speaker #2: And in a consumer business, should this lead to elevated inflation, it might create an opportunity there for us to support our clients. Of course, within appropriate credit measures.

Dan Smith: In our consumer business, yeah, should this lead to elevated inflation, it might create an opportunity there for us to support our clients, of course, within appropriate credit measures.

Speaker #4: I think in general, as a business, we do have pretty good resilience. But there will always be specific areas or specific things. I think what we're trying to message is it's not anything that is very material in terms of the P&L performance.

Ali Mazanderani: I think in general, as a business, we do have pretty good resilience, that, you know, there will always be specific areas or specific things. I think what we're trying to message is it's not anything that is very material in terms of the P&L performance. I could also point out that, you know, clearly as a business, we also roll out point of sales. Those point of sales overwhelmingly they are, they come from Asia. You do have to be cognizant of, you know, not just the availability, but also the exchange rate. If the exchange rate improves and, you know, vis-à-vis, then we will have a benefit, and if it declines, it'll have a cost.

Speaker #4: But I could also point out that clearly, as a business, we also roll out point of sales. Those point of sales overwhelmingly, they are come from Asia.

Speaker #4: And so you do have to be cognizant of not just the availability, but also the exchange rate. And if the exchange rate improves vis-à-vis, then we will have a benefit.

Ali Mazanderani: You do have to be cognizant of, you know, not just the availability, but also the exchange rate. If the exchange rate improves and, you know, vis-à-vis, then we will have a benefit, and if it declines, it'll have a cost.

Speaker #4: And if it declines, it'll have a cost.

Speaker #3: Thank you. Question number two. The revenue increasing at a group level, would revenue increasing at a group level how do we square the decrease in cost of sales?

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thank you. Question number 2: the revenue increasing at a group level. With revenue increasing at a group level, how do we square the decrease in cost of sales? Is there some favorable pricing from suppliers or any other dynamic at play that has allowed you to manage cost of sales this well?

Speaker #3: Is there some favorable pricing from suppliers? Or any other dynamic at play that has allowed you to manage cost of sales this well?

Ali Mazanderani: There is a lot of dynamics in that. The first one is, you know, we are consciously exiting business lines that are not core, that have lower margin. You'll have a mixed effect around that. We are growing in revenue terms, higher margin businesses faster, and we are also benefiting from scale and operational efficiencies across the business. It's not one single thing, it's a number of things coming together. The rather pleasing thing is I don't think we are nearly through that journey. We have quite a lot of operational efficiencies that we can extract in the business over time to continue to improve that.

Speaker #4: There is a lot of dynamics in that. And so the first one is, we are consciously exiting business lines that are not core that have lower margin, and so you'll have a mixed effect around that.

Speaker #4: We are growing in revenue terms, higher margin, businesses faster. And we are also benefiting from scale and operational efficiencies across the business. So it's not one single thing.

Speaker #4: It's a number of things coming together. And the rather pleasing thing is I don't think we are nearly through that journey. We have quite a lot of operational efficiencies that we can extract in the business over time to continue to improve that.

Ali Mazanderani: We have quite a lot of operational efficiencies that we can extract in the business over time to continue to improve that. There are tools that are also being made available to us increasingly, as a consequence of AI innovation that will allow us to do more, even more than we might have thought, was possible before.

Speaker #4: And there are tools that are also being made available to us increasingly as a consequence of AI innovation that will allow us to do even more than we might have thought was possible before.

Ali Mazanderani: There are tools that are also being made available to us increasingly, as a consequence of AI innovation that will allow us to do more, even more than we might have thought, was possible before.

Speaker #3: Thanks. Question number three. How should we think about our working capital cycle in terms of collecting receivables, extending debtors, and selling inventory? Are there periods in the year that are typically more favorable than others?

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thanks. Question number 3: How should we think about our working capital cycle in terms of collecting receivables, extending debtors, and selling inventory? Are there periods in the year that are typically more favorable than others?

Speaker #4: Dan?

Ali Mazanderani: Dan?

Speaker #2: There is a cyclicality in our working capital cycle. So quarter two, let's call it the December period, is a peak volumes for us. So therefore, our inventory naturally spikes in that period of time.

Dan Smith: There is a cyclicality in our working capital cycle. Q2, let's call it the December period, is peak volumes for us, therefore our inventory naturally spikes in that period of time. Q3 compared to Q2 is a results in a de-gearing in our inventory. You will seen in this period, inventory clawed back about ZAR 100, ZAR 120 million quarter on quarter. That, that drove a large portion of the cash inflow, working capital cash inflow. Similarly, our receivables also has a similar cyclicality. Our payables are roughly flat, so that unwinds a little bit less.

Speaker #2: Quarter three compared to quarter two is a results in a degearing in our inventory. And you will have seen in this period, inventory clawed back about 100, 120 million quarter on quarter.

Speaker #2: So that drove a large portion of the cash inflow, working capital cash inflow. Similarly, our receivables also has a similar cyclicality. Our payables are roughly flat.

Speaker #2: So that unwinds a little bit less. So comparing things quarter on quarter, quarter three sees an unwind. Quarter four, a normalization and slight increase.

Dan Smith: Comparing things quarter-on-quarter, Q3 sees an unwind, Q4 a normalization and slight increase, Q1 of the next financial year similarly.

Speaker #2: And in quarter one of the next financial year, similarly.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thanks. The last question from James: To what extent does Bank Zero integration enable you to up those three-plus cross-sell metrics in merchant, particularly in the corporate space?

Speaker #3: Thanks. And the last question from James. To what extent does Bank Zero integration enable you to up those three-plus cross-sell metrics in merchant? Particularly in the corporate space.

Speaker #5: So I think that Bank Zero transaction has multiple benefits for the business. But specifically in the merchant space, clearly, Bank Zero has had a historical focus on SMEs as being a digital bank provider for them.

Ali Mazanderani: I think that Bank Zero transaction has multiple benefits for the business. Specifically in the merchant space, clearly, you know, Bank Zero has had a historical focus on SMEs as being a digital bank provider for them. The consequence of the transaction should allow us to effectively be able to offer a banking product through our existing sales force, our existing relationships. Which should be creative, augmentative in terms of the ARPU that we would be able to generate. Especially because we should be able to also generate benefit from float as well as from other sources.

Speaker #5: The consequence of the transaction should allow us to effectively be able to offer a banking product through our existing Salesforce, our existing relationships, which should be a creative, augmentative in terms of the ARPU that we would be able to generate.

Ali Mazanderani: Which should be creative, augmentative in terms of the ARPU that we would be able to generate. Especially because we should be able to also generate benefit from float as well as from other sources.

Speaker #5: Especially because we should be able to also generate benefit from float, as well as from other sources.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Ali. The next question is from Jamie Friedman from Saskia Hanna International Group. CAPEX as a percentage of revenue seems to be declining and helping free cash flow.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thanks, Ali. The next question is from Jamie Friedman from Susquehanna International Group. CapEx as a percentage of revenue seems to be declining and helping free cash flow in page 11. Is that a function of mix? How should we think about it?

Speaker #3: And page 11. Is that a function of mix? How should we think about it?

Dan Smith: John. In an aggregate basis, we've guided the market on an annual basis, roughly $400 million of CapEx. Is the right quantum of CapEx to support the group, both from a maintenance and from our growth ambitions. There's a little bit of seasonality around that in terms of timing of delivery of POS devices, for example. Similarly, timing of when we bring on board capitalized software development costs if they're at the appropriate stage. Quarter on quarter, some variability, but I'd look at it in the whole, on an annual basis. Our CapEx shouldn't exceed $400 million. Of course, therefore, as our EBITDA is growing, we get the benefit of that capital efficiency in our group.

Speaker #2: Go on, man.

Ali Mazanderani: John.

Speaker #5: So in an aggregate basis, we've guided the market in an annual basis roughly 400 million of CAPEX is the right quantum of CAPEX to support the group, both from a maintenance and from a growth ambitions.

Dan Smith: In an aggregate basis, we've guided the market on an annual basis, roughly $400 million of CapEx. Is the right quantum of CapEx to support the group, both from a maintenance and from our growth ambitions. There's a little bit of seasonality around that in terms of timing of delivery of POS devices, for example. Similarly, timing of when we bring on board capitalized software development costs if they're at the appropriate stage.

Speaker #5: There's a little bit of seasonality around that in terms of timing of delivery of positive ISAs, for example. Similarly, timing of when we bring on board capitalized software development costs, if they're at the appropriate stage.

Speaker #5: So quarter on quarter, some variability, but I'd look at it in the whole on an annual basis, our CAPEX shouldn't exceed 400 million. So of course, therefore, as our EBITDA is growing, we get the benefit of that capital efficiency in our group.

Dan Smith: Quarter on quarter, some variability, but I'd look at it in the whole, on an annual basis. Our CapEx shouldn't exceed $400 million. Of course, therefore, as our EBITDA is growing, we get the benefit of that capital efficiency in our group.

Ali Mazanderani: There is a I mean, just to augment, Dan, there is obviously an element of mix effect associated with that in that the product lines that are growing faster are typically ones that have lower CapEx requirements. I think that that general trend as you move towards greater digitization should continue, because if you think about, where, as Dan said, the CapEx is spent, you know, a nontrivial part will be on cash vaults and on point of sale. Even in the context of that being on point of sale, there is evolution in customer uses of Featureform that we would expect going forward. I, I'm quite confident around the long-run resilience of the cash conversion of the business, and expect to see a continued expansion of that capability.

Speaker #4: There is a I mean, just to augment, Dan, there is obviously an element of mix effect associated with that in that the product lines that are growing faster are typically ones that have lower CAPEX requirements.

Speaker #4: And I think that that general trend, as you move towards greater digitization, should continue because if you think about where, as Dan said, the CAPEX has spent a non-trivial part would be on cash vaults and on point of sale.

Speaker #4: And even in the context of that being on point of sale, there is evolution in customer uses of feature form that we would expect going forward.

Ali Mazanderani: Even in the context of that being on point of sale, there is evolution in customer uses of Featureform that we would expect going forward. I, I'm quite confident around the long-run resilience of the cash conversion of the business, and expect to see a continued expansion of that capability. Albeit there will be, you know, it is not necessarily going to be a straight line every quarter. There is going to be instances in which investments will be needed to be made. Substantively, expect a declining percentage.

Speaker #4: So I'm quite confident around the long run resilience of the cash conversion of the business and expect to see a continued expansion of that capability, albeit there will be it's not necessarily going to be a straight line every quarter and there's going to be instances in which investments will be needed to be made.

Ali Mazanderani: Albeit there will be, you know, it is not necessarily going to be a straight line every quarter. There is going to be instances in which investments will be needed to be made. Substantively, expect a declining percentage.

Speaker #4: But substantively, expect a declining percentage.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Ali and Dan. The next question is from Charles Boles from Titanium Capital. Buy now, pay later seems to very much be in vogue in SA.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thanks, Ali and Dan. The next question is from Charles Bowes from Titanium Capital. Buy now, pay later seems to very much be in vogue in SA. You have exited SwitchPay. Does this suggest you have a negative view of the BNPL market, or was the exit due to factors specific to SwitchPay?

Speaker #3: You have exited Switch Pay. Does this suggest you have a negative view of the BNPL market? Or was the exit due to factors specific to Switch Pay?

Speaker #4: I think it was more specific. I don't have a specifically negative view of the buy now, pay later market. I think that, as a business in the merchant space, we are at a build moment within our credit proposition, as Lincoln was alluding to within the conversation.

Ali Mazanderani: I think it was more specific. I don't have a specifically negative view of the buy now, pay later market. I think that as a business in the merchant space, I think we are at a build moment within our credits proposition, as Lincoln was alluding to within the conversation. It doesn't represent our lack of willingness to participate in that market. It was a legacy product that was not fit for purpose in terms of the scalability that we were needed to achieve and the unit economics and hygiene we wanted.

Speaker #4: And it doesn't represent our lack of willingness to participate in that market. It was a legacy product that was not fit for purpose in terms of the scalability that we needed to achieve.

Speaker #4: And the unit economics and hygiene we wanted.

Speaker #3: Thanks. The next question is from Tim Olds from Lorium Capital. Within the merchant segment, please could you share some color on the competitive dynamics resulting in the decline in the corporate merchant numbers?

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thanks. The next question is from Tim Auld, from Laurium Capital. Within the merchant segment, please could you share some color on the competitive dynamics resulting in the decline in the corporate merchant numbers, and what more can be done to defend this? Are you able to share current 2 and 3 product penetration rates for community and corporate customers separately?

Speaker #3: And what more can be done to defend this? And are you able to share current two and three product penetration rates for community and corporate customers separately?

Ali Mazanderani: On the product penetration rates, do we not, I mean, I think we can share. I think that as I said before, that in going forward, in the next investor presentation, we are gonna provide greater granularity. You can expect that clarity there. In terms of what's going on in that, in the corporate space. Where we have a strong resilience of our offering is where we have multiple products, and specifically 2 products in the corporate space. If you have a point of sale software with attached acquiring, like, in the hospitality space with Unity, you will have lower churn.

Speaker #5: On the product penetration rates, do we not I mean, I think we can share. I think that, as I said before, going forward in the next investor presentation, we are going to provide greater granularity so you can expect that clarity there.

Speaker #5: In terms of what's going on in the corporate space, so there are where we have a strong resilience of our offering is where we have multiple products.

Speaker #5: And specifically, two products in the corporate space. So if you have a point of sale software with attached acquiring like in the hospitality space with Unity, you will have lower churn.

Speaker #5: If you have standalone point of sale, single product, you should expect there to be less defensibility. And I think the reduction in the customer basis is a combination of some legacy that we inherited that we didn't feel was sort of core to where we were going.

Ali Mazanderani: If you have standalone point of sale, single product, you should expect there to be less defensibility. The I think the reduction in the customer bases is a combination of some legacy that we inherited that we didn't feel was sort of core to where we were going. But I don't have an expectation that that trajectory is gonna continue. I do have an expectation that we will be in the coming year investing in growth in our merchant count as well as in the corporate space as well as in the community space. Albeit the growth within the corporate space, I expect to be lower than the community space. But it's not, it's not representative to us of the medium-term growth path.

Speaker #5: But I don't have an expectation that that trajectory is going to continue. I do have an expectation that we will be in the coming year be investing in growth in our merchant count as well as in the corporate space as well as in the community space, albeit the growth within the corporate space, I expect to be lower than the community space.

Ali Mazanderani: Albeit the growth within the corporate space, I expect to be lower than the community space. But it's not, it's not representative to us of the medium-term growth path.

Speaker #5: But it's not representative to us of the medium-term growth path.

Speaker #3: Thank you. The next question is from Jared from All Weather. Please provide more color on the level of provisions for the loan book and how that changes under the current macro environment.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thank you. The next question is from Jared, from All Weather Capital. Please provide more color on the level of provisions for the loan book and how that changes under the current macro environment.

Speaker #2: I don't know if you want to go with that, Dan.

Ali Mazanderani: I don't know if you want to go with that, Dan?

Speaker #5: Yeah. Hi, Jared. I'd split it between different types of provisioning in the merchant loan book and in the consumer loan book. So in a consumer loan book, we provided 6.5% at the moment.

Dan Smith: Yeah. Hi, Jared. I'd split it between different types of provisioning in the merchant loan book and in the consumer loan book. In a consumer loan book, we provide at 6.5% at the moment. We run obviously a variety of different models. Our experience indicates something more favorable than 6.5%. As I signaled in the previous quarter results, we are revisiting the appropriate levels of provisioning. We think that at year-end would be the right time to either confirm our current levels of provisioning or change them based on obviously, what the models and our experience is at that point in time. They're well within our overall risk appetite.

Speaker #5: We ran obviously a variety of different models. Our experience indicates something more favorable than 6.5%. As a signal in the previous quarter results, we are revisiting the appropriate levels of provisioning to think that at year-end would be the right time to either confirm our current levels of provisioning or change them based on obviously what the models and our experiences at that point in time.

Dan Smith: We think that at year-end would be the right time to either confirm our current levels of provisioning or change them based on obviously, what the models and our experience is at that point in time. They're well within our overall risk appetite. As I said, our experience there is better than 6.5%. On our merchant loan book, which is far smaller, but obviously the average value of loans is significantly higher. There we provide according to the typical expected credit loss models.

Speaker #5: But they are well within our overall risk appetite as I said, our experience there is better than 6.5%. On our merchant loan book, which is far smaller, but obviously the average value of loans is significantly higher, there we provide according to the typical expected credit loss models.

Dan Smith: As I said, our experience there is better than 6.5%. On our merchant loan book, which is far smaller, but obviously the average value of loans is significantly higher. There we provide according to the typical expected credit loss models. Our experience there, previous quarter, you would've noted we did have some specific impairments which affected our overall level of merchant earnings, specifically on the lending side. That has normalized those handful of specific instances. There was nothing unusual or out of the ordinary course in terms of our credit experience in this quarter.

Speaker #5: Our experience there previous quarter, you would have noted we did have some specific impairments, which affected our overall level of merchant earnings, specifically on the lending side.

Dan Smith: Our experience there, previous quarter, you would've noted we did have some specific impairments which affected our overall level of merchant earnings, specifically on the lending side. That has normalized those handful of specific instances. There was nothing unusual or out of the ordinary course in terms of our credit experience in this quarter.

Speaker #5: That is, normalized those handful of specific instances and there was nothing unusual or out of the ordinary course in terms of our credit experience in this quarter.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Dan. The next question is from Christos from Avior. Will the Zaru settlement on the merchant side be in ZAR or Zaru?

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thank you, Dan. The next question is from Christos, from Avior. Will the ZARU settlement on the merchant side be in ZAR or ZARU?

Speaker #5: I'm not sure I understand the question, to be honest. So ultimately, the there's a difference between whether the settlement is in fiat currency Zaru or Zaru versus what is the infrastructure through which that is converted.

Ali Mazanderani: I'm not sure I understand the question, to be honest. Ultimately, there's a difference between whether the settlement is in fiat currency, ZAR or ZARU, versus what is the infrastructure through which that is converted. The question as to whether a merchant wishes to accept a stablecoin as opposed to ZAR would ultimately, I think, be the prerogative of that merchant. The thing that I think is more relevant is what rails is that settlement occurring through. Just to reiterate, the fundamental difference is blockchain is twenty-four/seven. You don't have to wait for banking hours. Speed of settlement is a core differentiator. The cost associated with utilizing that blockchain ecosystem should be far favorable than legacy banking rails.

Speaker #5: So the question is to whether a merchant wishes to accept a stablecoin as opposed to Zaru would ultimately, I think, be the relevant is what Rails is that settlement occurring through.

Speaker #5: And just to reiterate, the fundamental difference is blockchain is 24/7. You don't have to wait for banking hours. Speed of settlement is a core differentiator.

Ali Mazanderani: You don't have to wait for banking hours. Speed of settlement is a core differentiator. The cost associated with utilizing that blockchain ecosystem should be far favorable than legacy banking rails. It's not the utilization of blockchain as plumbing for merchant accounts is separate to whether the merchant is actually being settled in the fiat currency or in a stablecoin.

Speaker #5: And the cost associated with utilizing that blockchain ecosystem should be far favorable than legacy banking rails. So it's not a the utilization of blockchain as plumbing for merchant accounts is separate to whether the merchant is actually being settled in the fiat currency or in a stablecoin.

Ali Mazanderani: It's not the utilization of blockchain as plumbing for merchant accounts is separate to whether the merchant is actually being settled in the fiat currency or in a stablecoin.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Ali. We are going to move back into the chorus call now for our last call questions from Theodore O'Neill from Litchfield Hills Research.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thank you, Ali. We are going to move back into the chorus call now for our last call, questions from Theodore O'Neill from Litchfield Hills Research.

Speaker #4: Hey, thanks very much. And congratulations for beating the estimates in the quarter. My first question is, are you seeing any impact from the conflict in the Middle East?

Theodore O'Neill: Hey, thanks very much, and congratulations for beating the estimates in the quarter.

Ali Mazanderani: Thank you.

Theodore O'Neill: My first question is, are you seeing any impact from the conflict in the Middle East?

Ali Mazanderani: Look, there I mean, not really, and not especially. As we mentioned earlier, some residual impacts. You know, there's a consequence in terms of, obviously, the cost of fuel, but that's not really translating into negative impacts. In some ways, we've had a beneficial consequence in that it, you know, created an opportunity us to do advances to petrol companies ahead of price changes. There is obviously some other consequences in terms of consumer disposable income and things. Fundamentally, we're not really an index on the economy and we don't view it as being a critical factor in our performance at least for the moment.

Speaker #5: There are, I mean, not really and not especially. As we mentioned earlier, some are residual impacts. There's a consequence in terms of obviously the cost of fuel, but that's not really translating into negative impacts.

Speaker #5: In some ways, we've had a beneficial consequence in that it created an opportunity us to do advances to petrol companies ahead of price changes.

Speaker #5: There is obviously some other consequences in terms of consumer disposable income and things. But fundamentally, we're not really an index on the economy. And we don't view it as being a critical factor in our performance and at least for the moment.

Ali Mazanderani: Fundamentally, we're not really an index on the economy and we don't view it as being a critical factor in our performance at least for the moment.

Speaker #4: Okay. And in exiting the ATM network, was there a buyer for that? And by exiting it, was part of that thought behind that that it would align better with Bank Zero?

Theodore O'Neill: Okay.

Ali Mazanderani: And so-

Theodore O'Neill: In exiting the ATM network, was there a buyer for that? And, by exiting it, was part of that thought behind that it would align better with Bank Zero?

Speaker #5: So I mean, there wasn't we didn't feel that there would be a benefit in selling it. It was going to be more costly, I think, than potentially winding it down.

Ali Mazanderani: I mean, we didn't feel that there would be a benefit in selling it. It was going to be more costly, I think, than potentially winding it down. Otherwise, that would have been what we would have done. In terms of strategically, it was purely based on the fact that we want to be a business that delivers exceptional results. It was not a core part of the offering. It was not a business line that is indexed to digitization or one that we considered to be necessary to support the ecosystem.

Speaker #5: Otherwise, that would have been what we would have done. In terms of strategically, it was purely based on the fact that we want to be a business that delivers exceptional results.

Speaker #5: It was not a core part of the offering. It was not a business line that is indexed to digitization or one that we consider to be necessary to support the ecosystem.

Speaker #5: And it was providing a negative drag on earnings. And we would rather spend our time on things like the digitization of the society and blockchain enablement and AI enablement than on a legacy piece of infrastructure.

Ali Mazanderani: It was providing a negative drag on earnings, and we would rather spend our time on things like the digitization of the society, blockchain enablement, and AI enablement than on a legacy piece of infrastructure.

Speaker #4: Right. Right. Finally, can you give us an update on the status of the move into the new headquarters?

Theodore O'Neill: Right. Right. Finally, can you give us an update on the status of the move into the new headquarters?

Ali Mazanderani: Yeah. We I think the time that we are doing this investment base in the next quarter, we should be based therefore on new headquarters, and we are very excited. It's not just about, you know, about having a, you know, a nice refreshed office environment. It's also, I think, it'll have a profound impact on the way we work and the efficiency of the business. Currently, you know, as we are trying to coordinate across different aspects, sitting in the same office with all the components, I think, will be hugely beneficial. We are expecting to see good positive ways of work develop as a consequence of that. It also will dovetail nicely with the more visible launch of our brand.

Speaker #5: Yeah. I think the time that we are doing this investment in the next quarter, we should be doing so from our new headquarters. And we are very excited.

Speaker #5: And it's not just about having a nice refreshed office environment. It's also, I think it'll have a profound impact on the way we work and then the efficiency of the business because currently, as we are trying to coordinate across different aspects, sitting in the same office with all the components, I think, will be hugely beneficial.

Speaker #5: So we are expected to see good positive ways of work develop as a consequence of that. And it also will dovetail nicely with the more visible launch of our brand.

Ali Mazanderani: We are expecting to see good positive ways of work develop as a consequence of that. It also will dovetail nicely with the more visible launch of our brand. It's actually a very exciting season coming up for us in that respect.

Speaker #5: So it's actually a very exciting season coming up for us in that respect. Yeah. I mean, if I could just add that what it also coincides with is us launching our together across all the different provinces, getting people to really fully understand what one LISAKA means because there's going to now be one brand.

Ali Mazanderani: It's actually a very exciting season coming up for us in that respect.

Lincoln Mali: Yeah. I mean, if I could just add that what it also coincides with is us launching our values and bringing our teams together across all the different provinces. Getting people to really fully understand what One Lesaka means, because there's gonna now be one brand, and both consumers and merchants and enterprise customers will relate to one brand. Getting our staff across the country to understand what this is about. It's not only the new offices, it's also those offices that will start to build in the months to come in the different provinces. Also people starting to work across the divisions and across the functional areas in head office, as Ali was saying, is the way we want the new culture to emerge from this.

Speaker #5: And both consumers and merchants and enterprise customers will relate to one brand. So getting our staff across the country to understand what this is about.

Speaker #5: So it's not only the new offices. It's also those offices that will start to build in the months to come in the different provinces, but also people starting to work across the divisions and across the functional areas in head office as Ali was saying is the way we want the new culture to emerge from this.

Lincoln Mali: Also people starting to work across the divisions and across the functional areas in head office, as Ali was saying, is the way we want the new culture to emerge from this. That again, drives this thinking about cross-selling, doing more for our customers, and giving them more solutions. The more people get to know about those solutions, the better it will be for them to be able to sell those solutions to customers, be they merchants or consumers or enterprise clients.

Speaker #5: And that, again, drives this thinking about cross-selling, doing more for our customers, and giving them more solutions. The more people get to know about those solutions, the better it will be for them to be able to sell those solutions to customers, be they merchants or consumers or enterprise clients.

Lincoln Mali: That again, drives this thinking about cross-selling, doing more for our customers, and giving them more solutions. The more people get to know about those solutions, the better it will be for them to be able to sell those solutions to customers, be they merchants or consumers or enterprise clients.

Speaker #5: Also, just to add, it's not just Johannesburg. We're all moving into one office in Cape Town as well, a few months subsequently. We expect to be doing the same in Durban and across our footprint in the provinces.

Ali Mazanderani: If I just, you know, add, it's not just Johannesburg. We're all moving into one office in Cape Town as well a few months subsequently. We expect to be doing the same, in Durban and across our footprint in the provinces. There's a rationalization process with that. Our office footprint will shrink across the country. It is a very powerful thing for the business.

Speaker #5: There's a rationalization process associated with that. So our office footprint will shrink across the country. And it is a very powerful thing for the business.

Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks very much.

Theodore O'Neill: Okay, thanks very much.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Ali, Dan, and Lincoln. And thank you, everyone, for joining the chorus call and through the chat and for engaging today. We are going to wrap it up here.

[Company Representative] (Lesaka Technologies): Thank you, Ali, Dan, and Lincoln, and thank you everyone for joining the chorus call and through the chat and for engaging in today. We are going to wrap it up here. As a reminder, there will be a replay of the webcast on the Lesaka investor website. Thank you everyone for your participation.