Q1 2026 Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Inc Earnings Call

May 7, 2026

Speaker #3: Good day and welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance, Inc. post-quarter 2026 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participants will be in the listen-only mode.

Operator 3: Good day, and welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance, Inc. Q4 2026 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants will be in the listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star and then 2. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Capps. Please go ahead.

Operator: Good day, and welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance, Inc Q4 2026 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants will be in the listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star and then two. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Kampf. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key, followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions.

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Speaker #3: I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Camps, please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance conference call. To review the company's results. On the call today will be Peter Sack, co-chief executive officer; David Kite, president and chief operating officer; and Phil Silverman, chief financial officer.

Lisa Capps: Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Conference Call to review the company's results. On the call today will be Peter Sack, Co-Chief Executive Officer, David Kite, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Phil Silverman, Chief Financial Officer. Our results were released this morning in our earnings press release, which can be found on our investor relations section of our website, along with our supplemental filed with the SEC. A live audio webcast of this call is being made available today. For those who listen to the replay of this webcast, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today and will not be updated subsequent to this call.

Lisa Kampf: Thank you. Good morning. Welcome to the Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Finance Conference Call to review the company's results. On the call today will be Peter Sack, Co-Chief Executive Officer, David Kite, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Phil Silverman, Chief Financial Officer. Our results were released this morning in our earnings press release, which can be found on our investor relations section of our website, along with our supplemental filed with the SEC. A live audio webcast of this call is being made available today. For those who listen to the replay of this webcast, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today and will not be updated subsequent to this call.

Speaker #4: Our results were released this morning in our earnings press release, which can be found on our investor relations section of our website. Along with our supplemental filed with the SEC.

Speaker #4: A live audio webcast of this call is being made available today. For those who listen to the replay of this webcast, we remind you that the remarks made herein are as of today and will not be updated subsequent to this call.

Speaker #4: During the call, certain comments and statements we make may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning prescribed by securities laws. Including statements related to the future performance of our portfolio, our pipeline of potential loans, and other investments future dividends and financing activities.

Lisa Capps: During the call, certain comments and statements we make may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning prescribed by securities laws, including statements related to the future performance of our portfolio, our pipeline of potential loans and other investments, future dividends, and financing activity. All forward-looking statements represent Chicago Atlantic's judgment as of the date of this conference call and are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. Investors are urged to carefully review various disclosures made by the company, including the risks and other information disclosed in the company's filings with the SEC. We also will discuss certain non-GAAP measures, including, but not limited to, distributable earnings. Definitions of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in our filings with the SEC. I'll now turn the call over to Peter Sack.

Lisa Kampf: During the call, certain comments and statements we make may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning prescribed by securities laws, including statements related to the future performance of our portfolio, our pipeline of potential loans and other investments, future dividends, and financing activity. All forward-looking statements represent Chicago Atlantic's judgment as of the date of this conference call and are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. Investors are urged to carefully review various disclosures made by the company, including the risks and other information disclosed in the company's filings with the SEC. We also will discuss certain non-GAAP measures, including, but not limited to, distributable earnings. Definitions of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in our filings with the SEC. I'll now turn the call over to Peter Sack.

Speaker #4: All forward-looking statements represent Chicago Atlantic's judgment as of the date of this conference call and are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations.

Speaker #4: Investors are urged to carefully review various disclosures made by the company including the risks and other information disclosed in the company's filings with the SEC.

Speaker #4: We also will discuss certain non-gap measures, including but not limited to distributable earnings. Definitions of these non-gap measures and reconciliations to the most comparable gap measures are included in our filings with the SEC.

Speaker #4: I'll now turn the call over to Peter Sack. Please go ahead.

Lisa Capps: Please go ahead.

Lisa Kampf: Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Thank you, Lisa. Good morning, everyone. This quarter, Chicago Atlantic reported a quarter of consistent results against a backdrop of continuing concerns in the private credit market.

Peter Sack: Thank you, Lisa. Good morning, everyone. This quarter, Chicago Atlantic reported a quarter of consistent results against the backdrop of continuing concerns in the private credit market, the Fed pausing the interest rate easing cycle following three consecutive rate cuts in Q4 of last year, and volatility caused by the Middle East conflict. This quarter's results reflect the strength and resilience of our business model. We are a leading capital provider in the cannabis ecosystem. Our experience in this industry provides us with the expertise, relationships, and ability to redeploy capital more quickly than the typical mortgage REIT. Our rigorous underwriting and stringent risk standards, led by our cannabis-focused underwriting, real estate, and analytics team, ensures an acceptable risk versus reward. I continue to be optimistic about the current environment.

Speaker #5: The Fed pausing the interest rate easing cycle following three consecutive rate cuts in Q4 of last year. And volatility caused by the Middle East conflict.

Speaker #5: This quarter's results reflect the strength and resilience of our business model. We are a leading capital provider in the cannabis ecosystem. Our experience in this industry provides us with the expertise, relationships, and ability to redeploy capital more quickly than the typical mortgage rate.

Speaker #5: Our rigorous underwriting and stringent risk standards led by our cannabis-focused underwriting real estate and analytics team ensures an acceptable risk versus reward. I continue to be optimistic about the current environment.

Speaker #5: The pipeline of cannabis opportunities remains strong and currently stands at $482 million, of which approximately $133 million of this pipeline is backed by real estate collateral.

Peter Sack: The pipeline of cannabis opportunities remains strong and currently stands at $482 million, of which approximately $133 million of this pipeline is backed by real estate collateral. Given the recent medical rescheduling news in late April, I'd be remiss in not highlighting the latest major federal initiative in policy setting for the cannabis industry. The Department of Justice announced on 23 April that it is rescheduling certain medical marijuana products to Schedule III from Schedule I. This is the most significant federal policy change in years and perhaps in the history of the industry. There are nuances to work out as we wait for a more definitive framework and how this policy will apply to existing individual state laws. We expect these policy changes to impact each operator differently based on their medical market exposure.

Speaker #5: Given the recent medical rescheduling news in late April, I'd be remiss in not highlighting the latest major federal initiative in policy setting for the cannabis industry.

Speaker #5: The Department of Justice announced on April 23rd that it is rescheduling certain medical marijuana products to Schedule 3 from Schedule 1. This is the most significant federal policy change in years and perhaps in the history of the industry.

Speaker #5: There are nuances to work out as we wait for more definitive framework and how this policy will apply to existing individual state laws. And we expect these policy changes to impact each operator differently based on their medical market exposure.

Speaker #5: But after many years of delays, this is a tremendous step in the right direction. How we expect to immediately benefit from this order is predominantly through the elimination of the extra tax burden on cannabis companies resulting from Section 280E and retrospective relief on legacy tax liabilities that should improve operator cash flows and strengthen balance sheets, driving higher valuation multiples and improving the credit profiles of our borrowers.

Peter Sack: After many years of delays, this is a tremendous step in the right direction. How we expect to immediately benefit from this order is predominantly through the elimination of the extra tax burden on cannabis companies resulting from Section 280E, and retrospective relief on legacy tax liabilities that should improve operator cash flows and strengthen balance sheets, driving higher valuation multiples and improving the credit profiles of our borrowers. The federal order requires and sets up an expedited process for state-licensed medical cannabis operators to register with the DEA, and in effect, legalizing state-licensed medical cannabis on a federal level. Additional benefits from this would be lowering barriers to US exchanges, for which we have been an advocate. An administrative hearing is scheduled for 29 June to 15 July. This hearing provides a pathway to reschedule cannabis more broadly, possibly rescheduling adult use products.

Speaker #5: The federal order requires and sets up an expedited process for state licensed medical cannabis operators to register with the DEA. And in effect, legalizing state licensed medical cannabis on a federal level.

Speaker #5: Additional benefits from this would be lowering barriers to US exchanges for which we have been an advocate. An administrative hearing is scheduled for June 29th to July 15th.

Speaker #5: This hearing provides a pathway to reschedule cannabis more broadly. Possibly rescheduling adult use products. We will continue to be measured in our outlook for positive outcome and not jump ahead to any conclusions.

Peter Sack: We will continue to be measured in our outlook for a positive outcome and not jump ahead to any conclusions. We believe Chicago Atlantic is well-positioned to benefit from the initial order, and as I've stated before, the success of our strategy is not dependent on any of these changes. We have remained conservative and underwrite every investment, assuming no regulatory-driven credit improvements. Leading up to the 29 June hearing, we've begun forecasting for a range of outcomes from the rulemaking process but currently remain in a wait-and-see mode. Overall, REFI delivered consistent, stable financial results for Q1 2026 against an unstable macro environment. Our differentiated business model, lending to operators and property owners in the cannabis industry, enables us to operate in a niche market with limited competition, with favorable terms and delivering competitive yields.

Speaker #5: We believe Chicago Atlantic is well positioned to benefit from the initial order and as I've stated before, the success of our strategy is not dependent on any of these changes.

Speaker #5: We have remained conservative and underwrite every investment assuming no regulatory-driven credit improvements. Leading up to the June 29th hearing, we've begun forecasting for a range of outcomes from the rulemaking process but currently remain in a wait-and-see mode.

Speaker #5: Overall, refi delivered consistent, stable financial results for the first quarter of 2026 against an unstable macro environment. Our differentiated business model lending to operators and property owners in the cannabis industry enables us to operate in a niche market with limited competition with favorable terms and delivering competitive yields.

Speaker #5: This year is proving to be a transformative time for the cannabis industry, following the federal government's rescheduling of medical marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3, and the potential for broader policy shifts for cannabis later this year.

Peter Sack: This year is proving to be a transformative time for the cannabis industry following the federal government's rescheduling medical marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III and the potential for broader policy shifts for cannabis later this year. We are encouraged by the validation of our business model and the potential impact of regulatory orders flowing through to REFI. I look forward to updating you on our progress throughout the rest of this exciting year. David will now speak to the portfolio in greater detail. David?

Speaker #5: We are encouraged by the validation of our business model and the potential impact of regulatory orders flowing through to refi. I look forward to updating you on our progress throughout the rest of this exciting year.

Speaker #5: David will now speak to the portfolio in greater detail. David?

Speaker #6: Thank you, Peter. As of March 31, our loan portfolio principal totaled approximately $414 million across 25 portfolio companies with a weighted average yield to maturity of 15.8% compared with 16.3% for the fourth quarter of 2025.

David Kite: Thank you, Peter. As of 31 March, our loan portfolio principal totaled approximately $414 million across 25 portfolio companies with a weighted average yield to maturity of 15.8%, compared with 16.3% for Q4 2025. Gross originations during the quarter were approximately $54 million of principal fundings, of which $16.2 million and $37.8 million were funded to new borrowers and existing borrowers, respectively. These were offset by approximately $52 million of repayments, comprised of $3.3 million in scheduled amortization payments and $48.2 million from full and partial loan prepayments. As of 31 March 2026, approximately 10.7% of our portfolio is risk rated 4 or higher, compared with 4.8% as of 31 December 2025.

Speaker #6: Gross originations during the quarter were approximately $54 million of principal funding, of which $16.2 million and $37.8 million were funded to new borrowers and existing borrowers, respectively.

Speaker #6: These were offset by approximately $52 million of repayments comprised of $3.3 million in scheduled amortization payments and $48.2 million from full and partial loan prepayments.

Speaker #6: As of March 31, 2026, approximately $10.7% of our portfolio is risk rated 4 or higher compared with 4.8% as of December 31, 2025. This risk rating shift primarily attributable to loan number 36 being downgraded from 3 to a 4 contributed to an increase in CISA reserves of approximately $3.8 million.

David Kite: This risk rating shift primarily attributable to loan number 36 being downgraded from 3 to a 4 contributed to an increase in CECL reserves of approximately $3.8 million. As I mentioned on our last call, we made significant progress on loan number 9 last quarter, funding an advance for the borrower to allow for accretive acquisitions. As of 31 December 2025, the loan was brought current. As of 31 March 2026, we're pleased to announce that we've moved the loan back to accrual status after 3 consecutive months of timely payment and demonstration of sustained performance improvement, which we expect to lead to the ability to continue to meet debt service obligations. This is a prime example of how we utilize the operational and workout expertise amongst our team and the broader Chicago Atlantic platform, using creativity and deal management to drive successful turnaround efforts.

Speaker #6: As I mentioned on our last call, we made significant progress on loan number 9 last quarter. Funding in advance for the borrower to allow for a creative acquisitions.

Speaker #6: As of December 31, 2025, the loan was brought current. And as of March 31, we're pleased to announce that we've moved the loan back to accrual status after three consecutive months of timely payment and demonstration of sustained performance improvement, which we expect to lead to the ability to continue to meet debt service obligations.

Speaker #6: This is a prime example of how we utilize the operational and workout expertise amongst our team and the broader Chicago Atlantic platform. Using creativity and deal management to drive successful turnaround efforts.

Speaker #6: As of March 31, 2026, approximately $4.8% of our portfolio was on non-accrual status, a decrease from approximately $11.1% as of December 31, 2025. Primarily relating to the restoration of loan number 9 to accrual.

David Kite: As of 31 March 2026, approximately 4.8% of our portfolio was on non-accrual status, a decrease from approximately 11.1% as of 31 December 2025, primarily relating to the restoration of loan number 9 to accrual. As of 31 March 2026, our portfolio consisted of 35.2% fixed-rate loans and 64.8% floating-rate loans. 71.9% and 28.1% of floating-rate loans are benchmarked to the prime rate and SOFR, respectively. With the current prime rate at 6.75%, 100% of our prime rate loans are at their floors. In total, approximately only 4% of our loan principal is exposed to further rate declines across the total portfolio.

Speaker #6: As of March 31, 2026, our portfolio consisted of 35.2% fixed-rate loans and 64.8% floating-rate loans. 71.9% and 28.1% of floating-rate loans are benchmarked to the prime rate and SOFR, respectively.

Speaker #6: With the current prime rate at 6.75, 100% of our prime rate loans are at their floors and in total approximately only 4% of our loan principal is exposed to further rate declines across the total portfolio.

Speaker #6: Importantly, our floating-rate loans are not exposed to interest rate caps, which combined with our rate floor protections provides a structural advantage in portfolio construction that compares favorably to most other mortgage routes.

David Kite: Importantly, our floating-rate loans are not exposed to interest rate caps, which, combined with our rate floor protections, provides a structural advantage in portfolio construction that compares favorably to most other mortgage REITs. Total leverage equaled 38% of book equity at 31 March, compared to 32% as of 31 December. As of 31 March, we had $67.1 million outstanding on our senior secured revolving credit facility and $49.4 million outstanding on our unsecured term loan. As of today, we have approximately $59 million available on the senior credit facility and total liquidity, net of estimated liabilities of approximately $54 million. I'll now turn it over to Phil.

Speaker #6: Total leverage equaled 38% of book equity at March 31 compared to 32% as of December 31. As of March 31, we had 67.1 million outstanding on our senior secured revolving credit facility and 49.4 million outstanding on our unsecured term loan.

Speaker #6: As of today, we have approximately $59 million available on the senior credit facility and total liquidity. Net of estimated liabilities of approximately $54 million.

Speaker #6: I'll now turn it over to Phil.

Speaker #5: Thanks, David. Our net interest income of 13.1 million for the first quarter represented a 1.2 million or 8% decrease from 14.2 million during the fourth quarter of primarily attributed to the fourth quarter collection of past due unaccrued interest on loan number 9 totaling $1.7 million which was recognized last quarter.

Phillip Silverman: Thanks, David. Our net interest income of $13.1 million for Q1 represented a $1.2 million or 8% decrease from $14.2 million during Q4 2025. The decrease was primarily attributed to the Q4 collection of past due on accrued interest on loan number 9, totaling $1.7 million, which was recognized last quarter. Total interest expense, including non-cash amortization of financing costs for Q1 2026, was approximately $2 million, an increase from $1.8 million in Q4. The weighted average borrowings on our revolving loan increased to $48 million, compared to $33.6 million during Q4. Our CECL reserve on our loans held for investment as of 31 March 2026, was approximately $8.7 million.

Speaker #5: Total interest expense including non-cash amortization of financing costs for the first quarter of 2026 was approximately $2 million and increased from 1.8 million in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #5: The weighted average borrowings on our revolving loan increased to $48 million compared to 33.6 million during the fourth quarter. Our CISA reserve on our loans held for investment as of March 31, 2026 was approximately $8.7 million.

Speaker #5: On a relative size basis, our reserve for expected credit losses represents $2.1% of our outstanding principal of our loans held for investment. The reserve increased by approximately 3.8 million from the fourth quarter primarily due to increases in LTV attributed to specific loans, primarily loan number 4, 34, and loan number 36.

Phillip Silverman: On a relative size basis, our reserve for expected credit losses represents 2.1% of our outstanding principal of our loans held for investment. The reserve increased by approximately $3.8 million from Q4, primarily due to increases in LTV attributed to specific loans, primarily loan number 434 and loan number 36. On a weighted average basis, our portfolio maintained strong real estate coverage of 1.2 times. Distributable earnings per weighted average share on a basic and fully diluted basis were approximately $0.47 and $0.46 for Q1. In April, we distributed the Q4 dividend of $0.47 per common share declared by our board.

Speaker #5: On a weighted average basis, our portfolio maintains strong real estate coverage of 1.2 times. Distributable earnings per weighted average share on a basic and fully diluted basis were approximately $47.46 for the first quarter.

Speaker #5: And in April, we distributed the fourth quarter dividend of $47 per common share declared by our board. Since inception, the company has distributed $8.94 per common share in dividends, which represents a yield on cost of approximately 11.8% when measured against our IPO price.

Phillip Silverman: Since inception, the company has distributed $8.94 per common share in dividends, which represents a yield on cost of approximately 11.8% when measured against our IPO price. Our book value per common share outstanding was $14.39 as of 31 March 2026, and there were approximately 21.5 million common shares outstanding on a fully diluted basis as of such date. During the subsequent period from 1 April 2026 through today, the company advanced new gross loan principal of approximately $15.8 million, comprised of $13.1 million advanced to 1 new borrower and $2.7 million to existing borrowers on delayed draw on existing credit facilities.

Speaker #5: Our book value per common share outstanding was $14.39 as of March 31, 2026, and there were approximately 21.5 million common shares outstanding on a fully diluted basis as of such date.

Speaker #5: During the subsequent period from April 1, 2026, through today, the company advanced new gross loan principal of approximately $15.8 million comprised of $13.1 million advanced to one new borrower and $2.7 million to existing borrowers on delayed draw on existing credit facilities.

Speaker #5: Additionally, the company received a total of $14.3 million in loan repayments comprised of $1.8 million of scheduled amortization and $12.5 million in early prepayments, which included the full repayment of loans number 6 and number 30.

Phillip Silverman: Additionally, the company received a total of $14.3 million in loan repayments, comprised of $1.8 million of scheduled amortization and $12.5 million in early prepayments, which included the full repayment of loans 6 and 30. We expect to continue to maintain a dividend payout ratio based on our basic distributable earnings per share of 90% to 100% for the 2026 tax year. If our taxable income requires additional distributions in excess of the regular quarterly dividend to meet our taxable income requirements, we expect to meet that requirement with a special dividend in Q4. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

Speaker #5: We expect to continue to maintain a dividend payout ratio based on our basic distributable earnings per share of 90 to 100 percent for the 2026 tax year.

Speaker #5: If our taxable income requires additional distributions in excess of the regular quarterly dividend to meet our taxable income requirements, we expect to meet that requirement with a special dividend in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #5: Operator, we're now ready to take questions.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We will now begin with the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchstone phone.

Operator 3: Thank you. We will now begin with the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your questions has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

Operator: Thank you. We will now begin with the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your questions has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

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Speaker #1: At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Pablo Zuanic from Zuanic and Associates. Please go ahead.

Operator 3: The first question comes from Pablo Zuanic, from Zuanic & Associates. Please go ahead.

Operator: The first question comes from Pablo Zuanic, from Zuanic & Associates. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Thank you and good morning, everyone. And thanks, Peter, for the commentary on the regulatory front and, of course, the positive news that we've been receiving recently.

Pablo Zuanic: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Thanks, Peter, for the commentary on the regulatory front and of course, the positive news that we've been receiving recently. Look, I just want to start with loan number 36. Obviously, 4 and 34 are Arizona loans, and we know that's a tough market for growers. You mentioned 4 and 34 are in accruals or are part of a reserve. In the case of 36, that's an Illinois loan, right? It's a larger loan, $27 million. Whatever color you can provide more on that loan would be helpful. Arizona, I understand. Illinois, of course, we've seen 4Front and other companies have issues there. If you can just give more color on that particular loan number 36 would be helpful, please.

Speaker #6: Look, I just want to start with loan number 36. Obviously, 4 and 34 are Arizona loans, and we know that's a tough market for growers.

Speaker #6: You mentioned 4 and 34 are in an accruals or are part of the reserve. And in the case of 36, that's an Illinois loan, right?

Speaker #6: And it's a larger loan, $27 million. Whatever color you can provide more on that loan would be helpful. Arizona, I understand. Illinois, of course, we've seen FourFront and other companies have issues.

Speaker #6: There. But if you can just give more color on that particular loan number 36, would be helpful, please. Especially in the context that it was issued in December 2024, which is not that long ago, I think.

Pablo Zuanic: Especially in the context that was issued in December 2024, which is not that long ago, I think. Bye-bye. Thanks.

Speaker #6: Bye-bye. Thanks.

Peter Sack: Thank you. Illinois market is experiencing consolidation on the retail front and I think is experiencing increasing competition on cultivation. This one in particular has strong real estate coverage and is a vertically integrated operator. I think the reserving activity reflects our ordinary course evaluation of portfolio company performance and risk. The discussions with the borrower are very constructive and we expect that this company's performance can be improved and resolved in a constructive and collaborative manner. I'm hopeful that in the months ahead, we'll find this reserving activity conservative.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Illinois market is experiencing consolidation on the retail front, and I think it's experiencing increasing competition on cultivation. This one in particular has strong real estate coverage and is a vertically integrated operator.

Speaker #1: And the I think the reserving activity reflects our ordinary course evaluation of portfolio company performance and risk. The discussions with the borrower are very constructive, and we expect that this can be that this company's performance can be improved and resolved in a constructive and collaborative manner.

Speaker #1: And I'm hopeful that I'm hopeful that in the months ahead, we'll find this reserving activity conservative. But regardless, this is part of our ongoing process to show reserving activity that reflects a conservative appreciation of performance and the portfolio.

Peter Sack: Regardless, this is part of our ongoing process to show reserving activity that reflects a conservative appreciation of performance and the portfolio.

Speaker #6: Thank you. And the same topic, Peter, can you give an update on loan 4 and 34?

Pablo Zuanic: Thank you. On the same topic, Peter, can you give an update on loan 4 and 34?

Peter Sack: These continue to be, continue to evolve. I think it's too early to give specific updates. They are constructive relationships.

Speaker #1: Please continue to be continue to evolve. I think it's too early to give specific updates. But they are constructive relationships.

Speaker #6: Okay. And by the same token, in the case of loan number 9, back into accruals, like you said, you were actively involved with them, collaborative basis.

Pablo Zuanic: Okay. by the same token, in the case of loan 9, back into accruals, like you said, you were actively involved with them, collaborative basis. you know, I'm just trying to understand the potential for loans in the portfolio that can be equitized or where you can succeed in the, in bringing new buyers to those loans. I mean, how should we think about that as an opportunity going forward for the book?

Speaker #6: I'm just trying to understand the potential for loans in the portfolio that can be equitized or where you can succeed in bringing new buyers to those loans.

Speaker #6: I mean, how should we think about that as an opportunity going forward for the book?

Peter Sack: I think it's important to contrast loan number nine with other reserving activity within the portfolio. Loan number nine was a judicial foreclosure process. That takes a substantial longer amount of time for resolution than when challenging situations within portfolio companies can be resolved constructively and collaboratively. I'd say that the markets for assets that are undergoing challenges have improved significantly over the last year as expectations for rescheduling have moved from speculative to more definitive to, in the case of medical operators, executed.

Speaker #1: I think it's important to contrast loan number 9 with other reserving activity within the portfolio. And loan number 9 was a foreclosure process, was a judicial foreclosure process.

Speaker #1: And that took that takes a substantial longer amount of time for resolution. Then when challenging situations within portfolio companies can be resolved constructively and collaboratively.

Speaker #1: I'd say that the markets for assets that are undergoing challenges have improved significantly over the last year, as expectations for rescheduling have moved from speculative to more definitive to, in the case of medical operators, executed.

Speaker #1: And so this is both a environment that is constructive and positive for deploying capital, and for finding solutions within the book, whether that's finding new equity investors, whether that's finding new equity investors executing operational change, or working towards an exit.

Peter Sack: This is both a environment that is constructive and positive for deploying capital and for finding solutions within the book, whether that's finding new equity investors, executing operational change, or working towards an exit. This is a better environment for both deployment and reorganization and problem-solving than really we've seen in the last 3 years.

Speaker #1: This is a better environment for both deployment and reorganization and problem-solving than really we've seen in the last three years.

Speaker #6: Right. Thank you. And then on the topic of the unscheduled repayments, thank you for the table you showed in the press release today. About 48 million, unscheduled repayment in the first quarter.

Pablo Zuanic: Right. Thank you. On, on the topic of the unscheduled repayments, you know, thank you for the table you showed in the press release today about $48 million unscheduled repayment in Q1. I think, Phil mentioned another $15 million so far in Q2. Is that out of the norm? I'm just trying to understand what's driving those early repayments or are they just normal par for the course?

Speaker #6: And I think Phil mentioned another 15 million. So far in the second quarter, is that out of the norm? I'm just trying to understand what's driving those early repayments or that just normal part for the course?

Speaker #1: These are part of the course. We label them unscheduled. But unscheduled doesn't mean necessarily it doesn't necessarily mean a surprise. And these were loans that many a few of them were nearing their maturity date.

Peter Sack: These are par for the course. You know, we labeled them unscheduled doesn't necessarily mean a surprise. These were loans, a few of them were nearing their maturity date.

Speaker #6: Right. Thank you. Look, a couple of more apologies if there's someone else in the Q&A queue. Looking at the 10-Q, loan number 45 in Canada, I don't know if that's the first time you've done a loan outside of the US, but can you comment on that?

Pablo Zuanic: Right. Thank you. Look, a couple of more, and apologies if there's someone else in the Q&A queue. Looking at the 10-Q loan number 45 in Canada, I don't know if that's the first time you've done a loan outside of the US, but can you comment on that? More in general, opportunities in international, you know, Europe, and even more in Canada.

Speaker #6: And more in general, opportunities in international Europe, and even more in Canada?

Peter Sack: Mm-hmm. It might be the first time that REFI has executed a loan outside the US, but not the first time that Chicago Atlantic as a platform has executed a loan outside the US and in Canada. I think we're finding that in the Canadian market, there has been stabilization of the market in some cases and rationalization of the market in terms of unprofitable operators leaving. That's given room and air for profitable, well-executing operators to rise to the top, be recognized to show strong results, and to provide opportunities for lenders to provide capital at very strong risk-adjusted returns. I think in the past, we just haven't seen that we haven't seen that opportunity set arise so meaningfully and so specifically and clearly.

Speaker #1: It's not the first maybe the first time that ReFi has executed a loan outside the US, but not the first time that Chicago Land took as a platform.

Speaker #1: Has executed a loan outside the US and in Canada. I think we're finding that in the Canadian market, there has been stabilization of the market in some cases, and rationalization of the market in terms of unprofitable operators leaving.

Speaker #1: And that's given room and air for profitable, well-executing operators to rise to the top, be recognized, to show strong results. And to provide opportunities for lenders to provide capital at very strong risk-adjusted returns.

Speaker #1: And I think in the past, we just haven't seen that. We haven't seen that opportunity set arise so meaningfully. And so specifically and clearly.

Peter Sack: I think we see this happen in a lot of markets that are oversaturated, that they go through a period of rationalization, and after that rationalization, pockets of opportunity emerge.

Speaker #1: But I think we see this happen in a lot of markets that are oversaturated, that they go through a period of rationalization. And after that rationalization, pockets of opportunity emerge.

Peter Sack: I think we see this happen in a lot of markets that are oversaturated, that they go through a period of rationalization, and after that rationalization, pockets of opportunity emerge.

Speaker #6: Right. Thank you. And one last one. And I know we've talked about this before.

Pablo Zuanic: Right. Thank you. One last one, and I know we've talked about this before.

Operator 3: Sorry to interrupt. Sorry to interrupt, Mr. Zuanic. May we request you to return to the queue for any follow-up questions, please. Thank you. You have the next question coming from the line of Chris Muller with Citizens Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Operator: Sorry to interrupt. Sorry to interrupt, Mr. Zuanic. May we request you to return to the queue for any follow-up questions, please. Thank you. You have the next question coming from the line of Chris Muller with Citizens Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Sorry to interrupt. Mr. Zuanic, maybe a request to return to the queue for any follow-up questions, please? Thank you. You have the next question coming from the line of Chris Muller, with Citizens Capital Market.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. So I wanted to ask some clarifications around Schedule 3 that you may or may not know the answers to at this point.

Chris Muller: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask some clarifications around Schedule III that you may or may not know the answers to at this point. I guess, first off, what percentage of your guys' portfolio is medical? I guess, how is that determined? Is that done at the license level? Which my understanding is some states have dual use licenses, or is it determined by the end user being either medical or rec?

Speaker #7: I guess first off, what percentage of your guys' portfolio is medical? And I guess how is that determined? Is that done at the license level?

Speaker #7: Which my understanding is some states have dual-use licenses. Or is it determined by the end user being either medical or rec?

Peter Sack: Most of our borrowers that are operating as adult use are also operating as medical operators. Each of them then parse their revenue by medical versus adult use, but those medical and adult use sales in many cases can be operating out of the same dispensary. We haven't published what is medical or versus adult use. I'm hopeful that within the year of 2026, that it's irrelevant. That the administrative hearings that are scheduled for June and July proceed, that adult use is rescheduled as well, and the industry doesn't have to go through this exercise of analyzing what's medical and what's adult use, that it can proceed to operate each businesses seamlessly. We shall see.

Speaker #1: Most of our borrowers that are operating as an adult use are also operating as medical operators. And each of them then parse their revenue by medical versus adult use.

Speaker #1: But they can be those medical and adult use sales in many cases can be operating out of the same dispensary. We haven't published what is medical versus adult use.

Speaker #1: I'm hopeful that within the year of 2026, that it's irrelevant. That the administrative hearings that are scheduled for June and July proceed. That adult use is rescheduled as well.

Speaker #1: And the industry doesn't have to go through this exercise of analyzing what's medical and what's adult use. That it can proceed to operate each business as seamlessly.

Speaker #1: But we shall see. I think if the adult use measures and progress around adult use rescheduling falters or slows down, then I think you're going to see a lot of work among our borrowers to parse medical versus adult use operations to allocate costs to allocate costs optimally between their medical and adult use operations to maximize tax efficiency.

Peter Sack: I think if the if adult use measures and progress around adult use rescheduling falters or slows down, then I think you're going to see a lot of work among our borrowers to parse medical versus adult use operations to allocate costs optimally between their medical and adult use operations to maximize tax efficiency. I think you're also going to see state regulators perhaps adjusting the definitions within their adult use program to shift more of their operations towards what they can call and designate a medical program. I hope those types of acrobatics are unnecessary, because the administration has executed on its pathway to reschedule the entire supply chain.

Speaker #1: And I think you're also going to see state regulators perhaps adjusting the definitions within their adult use program to shift more of their operations towards what they can call and designate a medical program.

Speaker #1: But I hope those types of I hope those types of acrobatics are unnecessary. Because the administration has executed on its pathway to reschedule the entire supply chain.

Speaker #7: Got it. That's helpful. And I think I saw California is doing something along those lines, which I agree with you. Hopefully, that's irrelevant. And full Schedule 3 gets done in June.

Chris Muller: Got it. That's helpful. I think I saw California is doing something along those lines, which I agree with you. Hopefully, that's irrelevant and full Schedule III gets done in June. We'll see how that plays out. I guess on CECL, the CECL reserve increase in the quarter, I may have missed this in your guys' prepared remarks, was that increase specific or general reserves? How are you guys thinking about the impact on CECL reserves following Schedule III?

Speaker #7: But we'll see how that plays out. And then I guess on the CSOR reserve increase in the quarter - and I may have missed this in your guys' prepared remarks - but was that increase specific or general reserves?

Speaker #7: And how are you guys thinking about the impact on CSOR reserves following Schedule 3?

Peter Sack: That reserve activity was a mix of both specific and general. I should note that that reserve activity reflects the market and discount rates and valuations and loan-to-values as of 31 March, and they do not reflect the subsequent events of rescheduling market activity and discount rates thereafter. I think generally the rescheduling is a credit positive for all of our borrowers and even those that don't have significant medical revenues.

Speaker #1: That reserve activity was a mix of both specific and general. I should note that reserve activity reflects the market and discount rates and valuations and loan-to-values as of 3/31.

Speaker #1: And they do not reflect the subsequent events. Of rescheduling market activity and discount rates thereafter. I think generally, the rescheduling is a I think the rescheduling is a credit positive for all of our borrowers.

Speaker #1: And the and even those that don't have significant medical don't have significant medical revenues.

Chris Muller: Should we expect to see some CECL releases throughout 2026 as those 280E issues work through the companies?

Speaker #7: And should we expect to see some CSOR releases throughout 2026 as those 280E issues work through the companies?

Chris Muller: Should we expect to see some CECL releases throughout 2026 as those 280E issues work through the companies?

Peter Sack: It's certainly possible. It would be a reflection, not necessarily directly of rescheduling, but it would be a reflection of the inputs that-- a reflection of market sentiment, loan-to-values, cash flow calculations flowing through to the inputs that drive our CECL reserve policies and behaviors.

Speaker #1: It's certainly possible. It would be a reflection not necessarily directly of rescheduling, but it would be a reflection of the inputs that a reflection of market sentiment, loan-to-values, cash flow calculations flowing through to the inputs that drive our CSOR reserve policies and behaviors.

Speaker #7: Got it. Appreciate you guys taking the questions. And great to hear we finally got some positive news in the sector.

Chris Muller: Got it. Appreciate you guys taking the questions, and great to hear we finally got some positive news in the sector.

Speaker #1: Absolutely.

Peter Sack: Excellent.

Speaker #7: Thank you. Your next question comes from Aaron Gray with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

Operator 3: Thank you. Your next question comes from Aaron Grey with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Aaron Grey with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Hi. Thank you for the question. The first question, obviously, there's a hope that we get the full plant rescheduled late summer or fall following the hearings.

Aaron Grey: Hi, thank you for the question. You know, first question, you know, obviously there's a hope that we get the full plant rescheduled, you know, late summer or fall following the hearings. You know, potentially in the near term or if full plant rescheduling takes a little bit more time, in this scenario, do you potentially get a little bit more aggressive in medical-only states where you know you have the removal of 280E? Does that change any of the potential near-term landscape opportunities? Thanks.

Speaker #6: But potentially in the near term or if full plant rescheduling takes a little bit more time, in this scenario, do you potentially get a little bit more aggressive in medical-only states where you know you have the removal of 280E?

Speaker #6: Or does that change any of the potential near-term landscape opportunities? Thanks.

Peter Sack: I think it does allow us to reflect in our underwriting the different tax treatment of medical revenues versus adult use revenues. I think we will have to, if adult use does not proceed on adult use sales, it will lead to, I think different lenses for medical versus adult use, if only because it drives different cash flow dynamics of the operators. That is the fundamental basis of which I think all underwriters in this space will need to adjust. Again, I hope it's not needed. If the fundamentals of cash flows need to be reflected in this, it'll be reflected in our underwriting and deployment as well.

Speaker #1: I think it does allow us—what's the—it allows us to reflect in our underwriting the different tax treatment of medical revenues versus adult use revenues.

Speaker #1: And I think it drives us to we will have to if adult use does not proceed on a on adult use sales then it will lead to, I think, different lenses for medical versus adult use if only because it drives different cash flow dynamics of the operators.

Speaker #1: And that's the fundament that is the fundamental basis. Of which I think all underwriters at this space will need to adjust. Again, I hope it's hope it's not needed.

Speaker #1: But if the fundamentals of cash flows are reflect need to be reflected in this, then it'll be it'll be reflected in our underwriting and deployment as well.

Aaron Grey: Thanks. That's helpful color. you know, a lot of people in the industry talk about potential impact of the hemp ban come to fruition in November, having a broader impact on the legal cannabis market. You know, curious to your view on that and your borrowers, you know, potentially their being that ban come to fruition and helping out, you know, the fundamentals of your borrowers and your view on that. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thanks. That's helpful color. A lot of people in the industry talk about potential impact of the handstand come to fruition in November, having a broader impact on the legal cannabis market.

Speaker #6: Curious to your view on that and your borrowers. Potentially, there being that ban come to fruition and helping out the fundamentals of your borrowers and your view on that.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Speaker #1: I would absolutely heard anecdotal feedback that the handstand has driven revenue increases particularly in states that have large that have a larger prevalence of smoke shops and these types of black market and CBD and cannabis-adjacent products.

Peter Sack: We've absolutely heard anecdotal feedback that the hemp ban has driven revenue increases, particularly in states that have a larger prevalence of smoke shops and these types of black market hemp CBD and cannabis-adjacent products. I think it's been difficult to find a direct link in the data, but certainly anecdotal and correlative links between the hemp ban and regulated cannabis sales.

Speaker #1: I think it's been difficult to find a direct link in the data, but certainly anecdotal and correlative links between the handstand and regulated cannabises.

Speaker #6: Okay. Great. Thank you. Just last question for me. In terms of liquidity and pipeline, any color on timing to having some things in the pipeline come to fruition?

Aaron Grey: Okay. Great. Thank you. Just last question from me. In terms of liquidity and pipeline, any color on timing to having some things in the pipeline come to fruition, you know, with the liquidity you still have available? Thanks.

Speaker #6: What's the liquidity you still have available? Thanks.

Peter Sack: Excuse me. I think it's our pipeline tends to refresh itself every 3 to 6 months. In that period of time, we have the opportunity to explore whether these transactions that are in the pipeline are transactions that we seek to close or transactions that end up not being worthy of closing. I think it's difficult to forecast within that timeframe of what that deployment will be for better or worse.

Speaker #1: Excuse me. I think it's our pipeline tends to refresh itself every three to six months. And in that period of time, we have the opportunity to explore whether these transactions that are in the pipeline are transactions that we seek to close or transactions that end up not being worthy of closing.

Speaker #1: But it's I think it's difficult to it's difficult to forecast within that time frame of what that deployment will be, for better or worse.

Speaker #1: And in this I'll point out that in this quarter, we have released our as I think at investors' request, we have released a breakdown between real estate-backed and non-real estate loans within our portfolio.

Peter Sack: I'll point out that in this quarter we have released our, as at, I think at investors' request, we have released a breakdown between real estate backed and non-real estate loans within our portfolio in an effort to give our investors a better view into what portion of our pipeline is more directly a fit for Chicago Atlantic real estate financing.

Speaker #1: In an effort to give our investors a better view into what portion of our pipeline is more directly fit for Chicago Atlantic Real Estate Financing.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Very helpful. Appreciate that disclosure and color in response to the questions. Thank you very much. I'll go ahead and jump back in the queue.

Aaron Grey: Yeah, very helpful. Appreciate that disclosure and color in response to the questions. Thank you very much. I'll go ahead and jump back in the queue.

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