Q3 2026 Radiant Logistics Inc Earnings Call
Operator: This afternoon, Bohn Crain, Radiant Logistics founder and CEO, and Radiant's Chief Financial Officer, Todd Macomber, will provide a general business update and discuss financial results for the company's Q3 fiscal quarter ended 31 March 2026. Following their comments, we will open the call to questions. This conference is scheduled for 30 minutes. This conference call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.
Speaker #2: A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad.
Speaker #2: Please note this conference is being recorded. This afternoon, Bohn Crain, Radiant Logistics' founder and CEO, and Radiant's Chief Financial Officer, Todd Macomber, will provide a general business update and discuss financial results for the company's third fiscal quarter ended March 31, 2026.
Operator: This afternoon, Bohn Crain, Radiant Logistics founder and CEO, and Radiant's Chief Financial Officer, Todd Macomber, will provide a general business update and discuss financial results for the company's Q3 fiscal quarter ended 31 March 2026. Following their comments, we will open the call to questions. This conference is scheduled for 30 minutes. This conference call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.
Speaker #2: Following their comments, we will open the call to questions. This conference is scheduled for 30 minutes. This conference call may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.
Speaker #2: The company has faced these forward-looking statements on its current expectations and projections about future events. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and assumptions about the company that may cause the company's actual results or achievements to be identify all the factors that may cause the that have in the past and may in the future be identified in the company's SEC filings and other public announcements which are available on the Radiant website at www.radiantdelivers.com.
Operator: The company has based these forward-looking statements on its current expectations and projections about future events. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and assumptions about the company that may cause the company's actual results or achievements to be materially different from the results or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. While it is impossible to identify all the factors that may cause the company's actual results or achievements to differ materially from these set forth in our forward-looking statements. Such factors include those that have in the past and may in the future be identified in the company's SEC filings and other public announcements, which are available on the Radiant website at www.radiantdelivers.com. In addition, past results are not necessarily an indication of future performance. Now, I'd like to pass the call over to Radiant's Founder and CEO, Bohn Crain.
Operator: The company has based these forward-looking statements on its current expectations and projections about future events. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and assumptions about the company that may cause the company's actual results or achievements to be materially different from the results or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. While it is impossible to identify all the factors that may cause the company's actual results or achievements to differ materially from these set forth in our forward-looking statements. Such factors include those that have in the past and may in the future be identified in the company's SEC filings and other public announcements, which are available on the Radiant website at www.radiantdelivers.com. In addition, past results are not necessarily an indication of future performance. Now, I'd like to pass the call over to Radiant's Founder and CEO, Bohn Crain.
Speaker #2: In addition, past results are not necessarily an indication of future performance. Now, I'd like to pass the call over to Radiant's founder and CEO, Bohn Crain.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining in on today's call. We are pleased to report another quarter of solid financial results delivering 7.8 million in adjusted EBITDA for our third fiscal quarter ended March 31, 2026, in what is our seasonally slowest quarter of the year.
Bohn Crain: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining in on today's call. We are pleased to report another quarter of solid financial results, delivering $7.8 million in adjusted EBITDA for our Q3 fiscal quarter ended 31 March 2026, in what is our seasonally slowest quarter of the year. The global logistics landscape during the March quarter was marked by sharply divergent dynamics across domestic and international markets, each presenting its own distinct set of challenges and opportunities. We believe the resilience of our results reflects both the diversity of our service offering and the quality of our network.
Bohn Crain: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining in on today's call. We are pleased to report another quarter of solid financial results, delivering $7.8 million in adjusted EBITDA for our Q3 fiscal quarter ended 31 March 2026, in what is our seasonally slowest quarter of the year. The global logistics landscape during the March quarter was marked by sharply divergent dynamics across domestic and international markets, each presenting its own distinct set of challenges and opportunities. We believe the resilience of our results reflects both the diversity of our service offering and the quality of our network.
Speaker #2: The global logistics landscape during the March quarter was marked by sharply divergent dynamics across domestic and international markets. Each presenting its own distinct set of challenges and opportunities.
Speaker #2: And we believe the resilience of our results reflects both the diversity of our service offering and the quality of our network. On the domestic side, we are seeing encouraging signs of a supply-driven recovery in North American truckload and intermodal markets.
Bohn Crain: On the domestic side, we are seeing encouraging signs of a supply-driven recovery in North American truckload and intermodal markets, where capacity has been steadily exiting the industry through a combination of carrier attrition, tightening driver availability, and the structural normalization of a fleet that expanded aggressively in prior years. With spot rates, tender rejections, and other key cycle indicators moving meaningfully higher and driver headcount at multi-year lows, the domestic freight market appears to be approaching a genuine inflection point. While these market trends are not fully reflected in our results for the March quarter, we view these developments as constructive for our business going forward as these improving market conditions should translate into better opportunities for our domestic operations. The international picture has been considerably more challenging and, in some respects, unprecedented in its complexity.
Bohn Crain: On the domestic side, we are seeing encouraging signs of a supply-driven recovery in North American truckload and intermodal markets, where capacity has been steadily exiting the industry through a combination of carrier attrition, tightening driver availability, and the structural normalization of a fleet that expanded aggressively in prior years. With spot rates, tender rejections, and other key cycle indicators moving meaningfully higher and driver headcount at multi-year lows, the domestic freight market appears to be approaching a genuine inflection point. While these market trends are not fully reflected in our results for the March quarter, we view these developments as constructive for our business going forward as these improving market conditions should translate into better opportunities for our domestic operations. The international picture has been considerably more challenging and, in some respects, unprecedented in its complexity.
Speaker #2: Where capacity has been steadily exiting the industry through a combination of carrier attrition, tightening driver availability, and the structural normalization of a fleet that expanded aggressively in prior years.
Speaker #2: With spot rates, tender rejections, and other key cycle indicators moving meaningfully higher, and driver headcount at multi-year lows, the domestic freight market appears to be approaching a genuine inflection point. Such factors include those points.
Speaker #2: While these market trends are not fully reflected in our results for the March quarter, we view these developments as constructive for our business going forward, as these improving market conditions should translate into better opportunities for our domestic operations.
Speaker #2: The international picture has been considerably more challenging and, in some respects, unprecedented in its complexity. Global trade flows have been under sustained pressure from two distinct, but compounding, forces.
Bohn Crain: Global trade flows have been under sustained pressure from two distinct but compounding forces. The first is the ongoing transformation of the global tariff landscape. US trade policy has fundamentally redrawn the economics of cross-border commerce with the universal 10% import surcharge currently in effect covering more than $1 trillion in goods. Country-specific tariff investigations underway targeting dozens of trading partners for industrial overcapacity and labor practices, and critical policy decisions on permanent tariff structures expected before July. The resulting uncertainty has materially altered sourcing strategies, disrupted established trade lanes, most visibly the China to US corridor, which has been one of the most consequential freight arteries in the global economy, and prompted widespread supply chain restructuring as importers and manufacturers are accelerating nearshoring and diversification initiatives. For international freight forwarders, this environment creates both headwinds and opportunity.
Bohn Crain: Global trade flows have been under sustained pressure from two distinct but compounding forces. The first is the ongoing transformation of the global tariff landscape. US trade policy has fundamentally redrawn the economics of cross-border commerce with the universal 10% import surcharge currently in effect covering more than $1 trillion in goods. Country-specific tariff investigations underway targeting dozens of trading partners for industrial overcapacity and labor practices, and critical policy decisions on permanent tariff structures expected before July. The resulting uncertainty has materially altered sourcing strategies, disrupted established trade lanes, most visibly the China to US corridor, which has been one of the most consequential freight arteries in the global economy, and prompted widespread supply chain restructuring as importers and manufacturers are accelerating nearshoring and diversification initiatives. For international freight forwarders, this environment creates both headwinds and opportunity.
Speaker #2: The first is the ongoing transformation of the global tariff landscape. US trade policy has fundamentally redrawn the economics of cross-border commerce, with a universal 10% import surcharge currently in effect, covering more than $1 trillion in goods.
Speaker #2: Country-specific tariff investigations are underway targeting dozens of trading partners for industrial overcapacity and labor practices, and critical policy decisions on permanent tariff structures are expected before July.
Speaker #2: The resulting uncertainty has materially altered sourcing strategies, disrupting established trade lanes—most visibly the China-to-US corridor—which has been one of the most consequential freight arteries in the global economy.
Speaker #2: And prompted widespread supply chain restructuring, as importers and manufacturers are accelerating nearshoring and diversification initiatives. For international freight forwarders, this environment creates both headwinds and opportunity.
Speaker #2: Near-term volumes on affected lanes have softened, but the complexity of navigating new trade routes, custom regimes, and compliance requirements increases the premium on experienced technology-enabled partners who can guide customers through the transition.
Bohn Crain: Near-term volumes on affected lanes have softened, but the complexity of navigating new trade routes, custom regimes, and compliance requirements increases the premium on experienced technology-enabled partners who can guide customers through the transition. The second force is the physical disruption to global shipping routes stemming from the conflict in the Middle East. The effective closure of the Straits of Hormuz following strikes on Iran in late February, the world's single most critical maritime checkpoint through which significant share of global energy and container trade flows, combined with the ongoing Houthi activity, which has kept the Suez Canal closed to major carriers, has fundamentally rerouted global ocean freight, extended transit times materially, driven fuel costs sharply higher, and triggered a significant surge in air freight demand as time-sensitive shippers seek alternatives.
Bohn Crain: Near-term volumes on affected lanes have softened, but the complexity of navigating new trade routes, custom regimes, and compliance requirements increases the premium on experienced technology-enabled partners who can guide customers through the transition. The second force is the physical disruption to global shipping routes stemming from the conflict in the Middle East. The effective closure of the Straits of Hormuz following strikes on Iran in late February, the world's single most critical maritime checkpoint through which significant share of global energy and container trade flows, combined with the ongoing Houthi activity, which has kept the Suez Canal closed to major carriers, has fundamentally rerouted global ocean freight, extended transit times materially, driven fuel costs sharply higher, and triggered a significant surge in air freight demand as time-sensitive shippers seek alternatives.
Speaker #2: The second force is the physical disruption to global shipping routes stemming from the conflict in the Middle East. The effect of closure of the Straits of Hormuz, following strikes on Iran in late February, the world's single most critical maritime checkpoint through which significant share of global energy and container trade flows combined with the ongoing hoodie activity, which has kept the Suez Canal closed to major carriers, has fundamentally rerouted global ocean freight, extended transit times materially, driven fuel costs sharply higher, and triggered a significant surge in air freight demand as time-sensitive shippers seek alternatives.
Speaker #2: These twin disruptions to global trade—one policy-driven, one conflict-driven—have created a uniquely challenging environment for international freight markets. At the same time, they reinforce precisely why customers need a logistics partner like Radiant.
Bohn Crain: These twin disruptions to global trade, one policy-driven, one conflict-driven, have created a uniquely challenging environment for international freight markets. At the same time, they reinforce precisely why customers need a logistics partner like Radiant, one with the global network, the technology platform, and the operational expertise to help them navigate volatility, find capacity, and keep supply chains moving when the world's trade infrastructure is under stress. Looking beyond the near-term environment, we remain highly encouraged by our strategic progress we are making. Our Navegate global trade management and collaboration platform continues to gain traction in the marketplace, offering customers enhanced supply chain visibility, routing intelligence, and cost optimization, capabilities that are especially valued during periods of market dislocation like the ones we are currently experiencing.
Bohn Crain: These twin disruptions to global trade, one policy-driven, one conflict-driven, have created a uniquely challenging environment for international freight markets. At the same time, they reinforce precisely why customers need a logistics partner like Radiant, one with the global network, the technology platform, and the operational expertise to help them navigate volatility, find capacity, and keep supply chains moving when the world's trade infrastructure is under stress. Looking beyond the near-term environment, we remain highly encouraged by our strategic progress we are making. Our Navegate global trade management and collaboration platform continues to gain traction in the marketplace, offering customers enhanced supply chain visibility, routing intelligence, and cost optimization, capabilities that are especially valued during periods of market dislocation like the ones we are currently experiencing.
Speaker #2: One with the global network, the technology platform, and the operational expertise to help them navigate volatility, find capacity, and keep supply chains moving when the world's trade infrastructure is under stress.
Speaker #2: Looking beyond the near-term environment, we remain highly encouraged by the strategic progress we are making. Our Navigate Global Trade Management and Collaboration platform continues to gain traction in the marketplace, offering customers enhanced supply chain visibility, routing intelligence, and cost optimization.
Speaker #2: Capabilities that are especially valued during periods of market dislocation, like the ones we are currently experiencing. With deployment measured in weeks rather than months or years, Navigate delivers speed-to-value that we believe is a clear competitive differentiator as we introduce it to current and prospective customers in the quarters ahead.
Bohn Crain: With deployment measured in weeks rather than months or years, Navegate delivers speed to value that we believe is a clear competitive differentiator as we introduce it to current and prospective customers in the quarters ahead. We also continue to make good progress with our recently announced launch of Ray, our first AI-powered agent. In addition to our initial efforts focused on streamlining international quote administration across our global agent network, we are exploring how best to further automate key workflows across our domestic and international shipment life cycles, while enabling faster response times and higher service quality for our customers. We look forward to expanding Ray capabilities and introducing additional AI-powered solution as we continue our digital transformation journey. Finally, our financial position remains a source of significant strength.
Bohn Crain: With deployment measured in weeks rather than months or years, Navegate delivers speed to value that we believe is a clear competitive differentiator as we introduce it to current and prospective customers in the quarters ahead. We also continue to make good progress with our recently announced launch of Ray, our first AI-powered agent. In addition to our initial efforts focused on streamlining international quote administration across our global agent network, we are exploring how best to further automate key workflows across our domestic and international shipment life cycles, while enabling faster response times and higher service quality for our customers. We look forward to expanding Ray capabilities and introducing additional AI-powered solution as we continue our digital transformation journey. Finally, our financial position remains a source of significant strength.
Speaker #2: We also continue to make good progress with our recently announced launch of RAY, our first AI-powered agent. In addition to our initial efforts focused on streamlining international quote administration across our global agent network, we are exploring how best to further automate key workflows across our domestic and international shipment lifecycles, while enabling faster response times and higher service quality for our customers.
Speaker #2: We look forward to expanding RAY's capabilities and introducing additional AI-powered solutions as we continue our digital transformation journey. Finally, our financial position remains a source of significant strength.
Speaker #2: We are essentially debt-free on a net basis relative to our $200 million credit facility giving us substantial flexibility to pursue the combination of strategic operating partner conversions, synergistic tuck-in acquisitions, and share repurchases that have long defined our approach to capital allocation.
Bohn Crain: We are essentially debt-free on a net basis relative to our $200 million credit facility, giving us substantial flexibility to pursue the combination of strategic operating partner conversions, synergistic tuck-in acquisitions, and share repurchases that have long defined our approach to capital allocation. With our diversified platform, strong balance sheet, and growing suite of technology capabilities, we believe Radiant is well-positioned to emerge from this period of market turbulence as a stronger and more competitive enterprise. With that, I'll now turn it over to Todd Macomber, our CFO, to walk us through our detailed financial results. We'll open it up for some Q&A.
Bohn Crain: We are essentially debt-free on a net basis relative to our $200 million credit facility, giving us substantial flexibility to pursue the combination of strategic operating partner conversions, synergistic tuck-in acquisitions, and share repurchases that have long defined our approach to capital allocation. With our diversified platform, strong balance sheet, and growing suite of technology capabilities, we believe Radiant is well-positioned to emerge from this period of market turbulence as a stronger and more competitive enterprise. With that, I'll now turn it over to Todd Macomber, our CFO, to walk us through our detailed financial results. We'll open it up for some Q&A.
Speaker #2: With our diversified platform, strong balance sheet, and growing suite of technology capabilities, we believe Radiant is well positioned to emerge from this period of market turbulence as a stronger and more competitive enterprise.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll now turn it over to Todd Macomber, our CFO, to walk us through our detailed financial results. Then we'll open it up for some Q&A.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Bohn, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, we will be discussing our financial results, including adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA, for the three and nine months ended March 31, 2026.
Todd Macomber: Thanks, Bohn, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, we will be discussing our financial results, including adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA for the 3 and 9 months ended 31 March 2026. For the 3 months ended 31 March 2026, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $4,671,000 on $214.1 million of revenues, or $0.10 per basic and fully diluted share. For the 3 months ended 31 March 2025, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $2,541,000 on $214 million of revenues, or $0.05 per basic and fully diluted share. This represents an increase of approximately $2,130,000 of net income over the comparable prior year period, or 83.8%.
Todd Macomber: Thanks, Bohn, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, we will be discussing our financial results, including adjusted net income and adjusted EBITDA for the 3 and 9 months ended 31 March 2026. For the 3 months ended 31 March 2026, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $4,671,000 on $214.1 million of revenues, or $0.10 per basic and fully diluted share. For the 3 months ended 31 March 2025, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $2,541,000 on $214 million of revenues, or $0.05 per basic and fully diluted share. This represents an increase of approximately $2,130,000 of net income over the comparable prior year period, or 83.8%.
Speaker #1: For the three months ended March 31, 2026, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $4,671,000 on $214.1 million of revenues, or 10 cents per basic and fully diluted share.
Speaker #1: For the three months ended March 31, 2025, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $2,541,000 on $214 million of revenues, or $0.05 per basic and fully diluted share.
Speaker #1: This represents an increase of approximately $2,130,000 of net income, over the comparable prior year period, or 83.8%. For adjusted net income, we reported $5,337,000 for the three months ended March 31, 2026, compared to adjusted net income of $6,881,000 for the three months ended March 31, 2025.
Todd Macomber: For adjusted net income, we reported $5,337,000 for the three months ended 31 March 2026, compared to adjusted net income of $6,881,000 for the three months ended 31 March 2025. This represents a decrease of approximately $1,544,000, or approximately 22.4%. For adjusted EBITDA, we reported $7,751,000 for the three months ended 31 March 2026, compared to adjusted EBITDA of $9,398,000 for the three months ended 31 March 2025. This represents a decrease of approximately $1,647,000, or approximately 17.5%. Moving along to the nine-month results.
Todd Macomber: For adjusted net income, we reported $5,337,000 for the three months ended 31 March 2026, compared to adjusted net income of $6,881,000 for the three months ended 31 March 2025. This represents a decrease of approximately $1,544,000, or approximately 22.4%. For adjusted EBITDA, we reported $7,751,000 for the three months ended 31 March 2026, compared to adjusted EBITDA of $9,398,000 for the three months ended 31 March 2025. This represents a decrease of approximately $1,647,000, or approximately 17.5%. Moving along to the nine-month results.
Speaker #1: This represents a decrease of approximately $1,544,000, or approximately 22.4%. For adjusted EBITDA, we reported $7,751,000 for the three months ended March 31, 2026, compared to adjusted EBITDA of $9,398,000 for the three months ended March 31, 2025.
Speaker #1: This represents a decrease of approximately $1,647,000, or approximately 17.5%. Moving along to the nine-month results, for the nine months ended March 31, 2026, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $11,269,000 on $672.9 million of revenues, or 24 cents per basic, and 23 per fully diluted share.
Todd Macomber: For the 9 months ended 31 March 2026, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $11,269,000 on $672.9 million of revenues, or $0.24 per basic and $0.23 per fully diluted share. For the 9 months ended 31 March 2025, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $12,384,000 on $602.1 million of revenues, or $0.26 per basic and $0.25 per fully diluted share. This represents a decrease of approximately $1,115,000 over the comparable prior year period, or 9%.
Todd Macomber: For the 9 months ended 31 March 2026, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $11,269,000 on $672.9 million of revenues, or $0.24 per basic and $0.23 per fully diluted share. For the 9 months ended 31 March 2025, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $12,384,000 on $602.1 million of revenues, or $0.26 per basic and $0.25 per fully diluted share. This represents a decrease of approximately $1,115,000 over the comparable prior year period, or 9%.
Speaker #1: For the nine months ended March 31, 2025, we reported net income attributable to Radiant Logistics of $12,384,000 on $682.1 million of revenues, or $0.26 per basic share and $0.25 per fully diluted share.
Speaker #1: This represents a decrease of approximately $1,115,000 over the comparable prior year period, or 9%. For adjusted net income, we reported $17,881,000 for the nine months ended March 31, 2026, compared to adjusted net income of $25,459,000 for the nine months ended March 31, 2025.
Todd Macomber: For adjusted net income, we reported $17,881,000 for the nine months ended 31 March 2026, compared to adjusted net income of $25,459,000 for the nine months ended 31 March 2025. This represents a decrease of approximately $7,578,000, or approximately 29.8%. For adjusted EBITDA, we reported $26,322,000 for the nine months ended 31 March 2026, compared to adjusted EBITDA of $30,866,000 for the nine months ended 31 March 2025. This represents a decrease of approximately $4,544,000, or approximately 14.7%. With that, I will turn the call back over to our moderator to facilitate any Q&A from our callers.
Todd Macomber: For adjusted net income, we reported $17,881,000 for the nine months ended 31 March 2026, compared to adjusted net income of $25,459,000 for the nine months ended 31 March 2025. This represents a decrease of approximately $7,578,000, or approximately 29.8%. For adjusted EBITDA, we reported $26,322,000 for the nine months ended 31 March 2026, compared to adjusted EBITDA of $30,866,000 for the nine months ended 31 March 2025. This represents a decrease of approximately $4,544,000, or approximately 14.7%. With that, I will turn the call back over to our moderator to facilitate any Q&A from our callers.
Speaker #1: This represents a decrease of approximately $7,578,000, or approximately 29.8%. For adjusted EBITDA, we reported $26,322,000 for the nine months ended March 31, 2026, compared to adjusted EBITDA of $30,866,000 for the nine months ended March 31, 2025.
Speaker #1: This represents a decrease of approximately $4,544,000, or approximately 14.7%. With that, I will turn the call back over to our moderator to facilitate any Q&A from our callers.
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Speaker #3: Thank you, Rev. Bohn and Todd. Good afternoon, guys.
Jason Seidl [Managing Director, Industrials: Thank you, operator. Bohn, Todd, good afternoon, guys.
Jason Seidl: Thank you, operator. Bohn, Todd, good afternoon, guys.
Speaker #4: Good afternoon. Hello.
Todd Macomber: Good afternoon.
Todd Macomber: Good afternoon.
Bohn Crain: Hello.
Bohn Crain: Hello.
Jason Seidl [Managing Director, Industrials: I guess three different things here. I guess, Bohn Crain, I wanna hone in on your commentary sort of about the domestic markets that, you know, things are sort of taking shape, showing early signs of improvement, and that sort of bodes well for Radiant. Can you talk a little bit about, you know, as the markets improve, you know, particularly with capacity coming out and pricing going up, maybe talking about some of the repricing opportunities you have, and how should we look at the current quarter on a sequential basis to the one that was just reported, given some of the trends that you're seeing?
Speaker #3: I guess three different things here. I guess, Bohn, I want to hone in on your commentary—sort of about the domestic markets, that things are sort of taking shape, showing early signs of improvement, and that sort of bodes well for Radiant.
Jason Seidl: I guess three different things here. I guess, Bohn Crain, I wanna hone in on your commentary sort of about the domestic markets that, you know, things are sort of taking shape, showing early signs of improvement, and that sort of bodes well for Radiant. Can you talk a little bit about, you know, as the markets improve, you know, particularly with capacity coming out and pricing going up, maybe talking about some of the repricing opportunities you have, and how should we look at the current quarter on a sequential basis to the one that was just reported, given some of the trends that you're seeing?
Speaker #3: Can you talk a little bit about as the markets improve, particularly with capacity coming out and pricing going up, maybe talking about some of the repricing opportunities you have and how should we look about how should we look at the current quarter on a sequential basis to the one that was just reported given some of the trends that you're seeing?
Speaker #4: Yeah, sure. Thanks, Jason. So I guess to give us some context, January and February started off pretty slow. But then as kind of the market dynamics began to unfold, we saw a much stronger march.
Bohn Crain: Yeah, sure. Thanks, Jason. I guess to give us some context, you know, January and February started off pretty slow. You know, as kind of the market dynamics, you know, began to unfold, we saw a much stronger March and kind of sequentially, we continue to see that building.
Bohn Crain: Yeah, sure. Thanks, Jason. I guess to give us some context, you know, January and February started off pretty slow. You know, as kind of the market dynamics, you know, began to unfold, we saw a much stronger March and kind of sequentially, we continue to see that building. As I'm sure you're aware, you know, the asset-based carriers have been taking, you know, significant rate increases, you know, effectively across the board and rejecting previous tenders and kind of the domino effect of that is positive both for the truck brokerage business, and as well as the intermodal business, you know, which has, you know, kind of really suffered in its own, you know, as an industry suffered in kind of mode competition versus truck in this depressed market environment.
Speaker #4: And kind of sequentially, we continue to see that building. And as I'm sure you're aware, the asset-based carriers have been taking significant rate increases effectively across the board.
Bohn Crain: As I'm sure you're aware, you know, the asset-based carriers have been taking, you know, significant rate increases, you know, effectively across the board and rejecting previous tenders and kind of the domino effect of that is positive both for the truck brokerage business, and as well as the intermodal business, you know, which has, you know, kind of really suffered in its own, you know, as an industry suffered in kind of mode competition versus truck in this depressed market environment. As these rates, you know, are moving higher, we're seeing, you know, substantially more opportunity also in our intermodal business.
Speaker #4: And projecting previous tenders and kind of the domino effect of that is positive, positive both for the truck brokerage business as well as the intermodal business, which has kind of really suffered in its own as an industry suffered in kind of mode competition versus truck and this depressed market environment.
Speaker #4: But as these rates are moving higher, we're seeing substantially more opportunity also in our intermodal business. So we're quite encouraged and we'll see how durable all this proves to be.
Bohn Crain: As these rates, you know, are moving higher, we're seeing, you know, substantially more opportunity also in our intermodal business. You know, we're, you know, quite encouraged and, you know, we'll see how durable all this proves to be, but we're pretty optimistic that it will be, you know, reasonably durable, you know, with meaningful kind of rate increase opportunities. You know, again, I'm gonna point to the other asset, you know, public asset-based companies who I think have been, you know, fairly consistently reporting, you know, double-digit margin increases, and that kind of creates an opportunity kind of for all of us to kind of ride on those coattails a little bit as they ultimately are gonna be setting the price, and then, you know, we can kind of play within that framework.
Bohn Crain: You know, we're, you know, quite encouraged and, you know, we'll see how durable all this proves to be, but we're pretty optimistic that it will be, you know, reasonably durable, you know, with meaningful kind of rate increase opportunities. You know, again, I'm gonna point to the other asset, you know, public asset-based companies who I think have been, you know, fairly consistently reporting, you know, double-digit margin increases, and that kind of creates an opportunity kind of for all of us to kind of ride on those coattails a little bit as they ultimately are gonna be setting the price, and then, you know, we can kind of play within that framework.
Speaker #4: But we're pretty optimistic that it will be reasonably durable with meaningful kind of rate increase opportunities. Again, I'm going to point to the other asset, public asset-based companies who I think have been fairly consistently reporting double-digit margin increases in that kind of creates an opportunity kind of for all of us to kind of ride on those coattails a little bit as they ultimately are going to be setting the price and then we can kind of play within that framework.
Speaker #4: But.
Speaker #3: So I'm going to push on this.
Jason Seidl [Managing Director, Industrials: I'm gonna put you on the spot.
Jason Seidl: I'm gonna put you on the spot.
Bohn Crain: You know, so much incremental spot, you know, opportunities, you know, with what limited kind of contracted exposure we had, you know, we've been able to kind of navigate that to better situations. We're bullish.
Speaker #4: Yeah, so much incremental spot opportunities. limited kind of contracted exposure we had, we've been able to kind of navigate that to better situations. And so we're bullish.
Bohn Crain: You know, so much incremental spot, you know, opportunities, you know, with what limited kind of contracted exposure we had, you know, we've been able to kind of navigate that to better situations. We're bullish.
Speaker #3: Well, and Bohn, on the contracted situations, when you're seeing your renewals, what sort of rates are you getting? Are you guys getting those double-digit rate increases when they come up?
Jason Seidl [Managing Director, Industrials: Well, Bohn Crain, on the contracted situations, when you're seeing your renewals, what sort of rates are you getting? Are you guys getting those double-digit rate increases when they come up?
Jason Seidl: Well, Bohn Crain, on the contracted situations, when you're seeing your renewals, what sort of rates are you getting? Are you guys getting those double-digit rate increases when they come up?
Bohn Crain: I wouldn't go so far as to say double digit, but I would say high single digits are kind of where we would expect to be.
Speaker #4: I wouldn't go so far as to say double-digit, but I would say high single-digits are kind of where we're where we would expect to be.
Bohn Crain: I wouldn't go so far as to say double digit, but I would say high single digits are kind of where we would expect to be.
Speaker #3: Okay. Fair enough. Let me jump to navigate and ray. You've been talking about navigate for a while. Have you thought about breaking it out and sort of sizing it up for us to give us an idea of the actual opportunity that lies before you guys?
Jason Seidl [Managing Director, Industrials: Okay, fair enough. Let me jump to Navegate and Ray. You've been talking about Navegate for a while. You know, have you thought about breaking it out and sort of sizing it up for us to give us an idea of the actual opportunity that lies before you guys? For Ray, are there any data points or KPIs that you guys are tracking that you can report to sort of give us an idea of maybe some of the benefits that you are seeing and some of the benefits that you could see in the future?
Jason Seidl: Okay, fair enough. Let me jump to Navegate and Ray. You've been talking about Navegate for a while. You know, have you thought about breaking it out and sort of sizing it up for us to give us an idea of the actual opportunity that lies before you guys? For Ray, are there any data points or KPIs that you guys are tracking that you can report to sort of give us an idea of maybe some of the benefits that you are seeing and some of the benefits that you could see in the future?
Speaker #3: And then for Ray, are there any data points or KPIs that you guys are tracking that you can report to sort of give us an idea of maybe some of the benefits that you are seeing, and some of the benefits that you could see in the future?
Bohn Crain: I'll take those one at a time. On Navegate, we certainly have been thinking about it, i.e., how do we kind of share insights relative to, you know, the kind of this emerging catalyst and what it, you know, has the opportunity to re-represent over time. We're not ready for that coming out party just yet, but we have been spending a fair amount of time just trying to think about within the context of our disclosures, how we might go about that. You know, that's gonna require a little more work. You know, we will do that at some point in time. We are not ready for that yet. It is, you know, a little amorphous, and I appreciate that, but it is happening, and we're very excited about it.
Speaker #4: So I'll take those one at a time on navigate. We certainly have been thinking about it, i.e., how do we kind of share insights relative to the kind of this emerging catalyst and what it has the opportunity to represent over time?
Bohn Crain: I'll take those one at a time. On Navegate, we certainly have been thinking about it, i.e., how do we kind of share insights relative to, you know, the kind of this emerging catalyst and what it, you know, has the opportunity to re-represent over time. We're not ready for that coming out party just yet, but we have been spending a fair amount of time just trying to think about within the context of our disclosures, how we might go about that. You know, that's gonna require a little more work. You know, we will do that at some point in time. We are not ready for that yet. It is, you know, a little amorphous, and I appreciate that, but it is happening, and we're very excited about it.
Speaker #4: We're not ready for that coming out party just yet, but we have been spending a fair amount of time just trying to think about, within the context of our disclosures, how we might go about that.
Speaker #4: And so that's going to require a little more work. We will do that at some point in time. We are not ready for that yet.
Speaker #4: But it is what a little amorphous, and I appreciate that. But it is happening. And we're very excited about it, what it does represent as I think a true market differentiator for us in the marketplace.
Bohn Crain: What it does represent as, I think a true market differentiator for us in the marketplace and an ability to engage, you know, with customers in a way that historically we weren't in a position to. We think over time it's gonna be a meaningful catalyst for organic growth within the overall Radiant story. You're absolutely spot on to ask, but we're not quite ready to share that type of data just yet. On with respect to Ray, kind of a similar story. We're not yet ready to share kind of KPIs around those metrics, but we'll be working in that direction as well over time. We are still early on and very early on with Ray.
Bohn Crain: What it does represent as, I think a true market differentiator for us in the marketplace and an ability to engage, you know, with customers in a way that historically we weren't in a position to. We think over time it's gonna be a meaningful catalyst for organic growth within the overall Radiant story. You're absolutely spot on to ask, but we're not quite ready to share that type of data just yet. On with respect to Ray, kind of a similar story. We're not yet ready to share kind of KPIs around those metrics, but we'll be working in that direction as well over time. We are still early on and very early on with Ray.
Speaker #4: And an ability to engage in with customers in a way that historically we weren't in a position to. And so we think over time it's going to be a meaningful catalyst for organic growth within the overall Radiant story.
Speaker #4: So you're absolutely spot on to ask. But we're not quite ready to share that type of data just yet. And on with respect to ray, kind of a similar story.
Speaker #4: We're not yet ready to share kind of KPIs around those metrics. But we'll be working in that direction as well over time. We are still early on in very early on with ray.
Bohn Crain: The kind of the organizational energy and excitement and what we're seeing, kind of across business units and their engagement, is really encouraging. You know, as a reminder, we began this process ourselves a year or so ago in our partnership with the University of Washington and their graduate student program. We're in our second year with our second group of cohort, our second cohort coming through the process. You know, we are, you know, as you might expect, we get approached by a lot of kind of VC-backed AI startups, you know, pitching us their ideas.
Speaker #4: But the kind of the organizational energy and excitement and what we're seeing kind of across business units and their engagement is really encouraging. And as a reminder, we began this process ourselves.
Bohn Crain: The kind of the organizational energy and excitement and what we're seeing, kind of across business units and their engagement, is really encouraging. You know, as a reminder, we began this process ourselves a year or so ago in our partnership with the University of Washington and their graduate student program. We're in our second year with our second group of cohort, our second cohort coming through the process. You know, we are, you know, as you might expect, we get approached by a lot of kind of VC-backed AI startups, you know, pitching us their ideas.
Speaker #4: So, a year or so ago in our partnership with the University of Washington and their graduate student program—and we're in our second year with our second group of cohort, kind of our second cohort coming through the process.
Speaker #4: And we're we are as you might expect, we get approached by a lot of kind of VC-backed AI startups pitching us their ideas. And when we kind of look at where they are and what they're doing, relative to what we're incubating for our kind of on a homegrown basis, we feel kind of really good about where we are.
Bohn Crain: When we kind of look at where they are and what they're doing relative to what we're incubating for our, you know, kind of on a homegrown basis, you know, we feel kinda really good about where we are with on our own technology roadmap and, you know, over time that will show up in the numbers.
Bohn Crain: When we kind of look at where they are and what they're doing relative to what we're incubating for our, you know, kind of on a homegrown basis, you know, we feel kinda really good about where we are with on our own technology roadmap and, you know, over time that will show up in the numbers.
Speaker #4: With our own technology roadmap, and over time, that will show up in the numbers.
Speaker #3: Bohn I appreciate the color and appreciate the time as always. I'll let somebody else add it.
Jason Seidl [Managing Director, Industrials: Bohn, I appreciate the color and appreciate the time as always. I'll let somebody else have at it.
Jason Seidl: Bohn, I appreciate the color and appreciate the time as always. I'll let somebody else have at it.
Speaker #4: All right. Thank you. Thanks.
Bohn Crain: All right. Thank you.
Bohn Crain: All right. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Once again, if you have a question or a comment, please press star one. The next question comes from Jeff Kaufman with Citizens Bank. Please proceed.
Operator 2: Once again, if you have a question or a comment, please press star one. The next question comes from Jeff Kauffman with Citizens Bank. Please proceed.
Operator: Once again, if you have a question or a comment, please press star one. The next question comes from Jeff Kauffman with Citizens Bank. Please proceed.
Speaker #6: Thanks. Hey, guys.
Jeff Kauffman: Thanks. Hey, guys.
Jeff Kauffman: Thanks. Hey, guys.
Speaker #4: Hey, Jeff.
Todd Macomber: Hey, Jeff.
Todd Macomber: Hey, Jeff.
Todd Macomber: Hey, Jeff.
Bohn Crain: Hey, Jeff.
Speaker #6: So, Bohn, I want to follow up kind of where Jason was going there a little bit. And I'm more keen about what you're seeing domestically.
Jeff Kauffman: Bohn, I wanna follow up kind of where Jason was going there a little bit, I'm more keen about what you're seeing domestically because we've heard some stories and we've seen a lot of indicators go up. Everybody that we talk to in freight seems to be a lot more optimistic 'cause of what's going on with rates. When we ask about the volumes, it's still kind of stagnant, particularly in some consumer areas. Maybe some businesses are starting to get a little more confident and engaging in some more transactions. You know, the volume portion of the markets getting better still seems to be something we're waiting on.
Jeff Kauffman: Bohn, I wanna follow up kind of where Jason was going there a little bit, I'm more keen about what you're seeing domestically because we've heard some stories and we've seen a lot of indicators go up. Everybody that we talk to in freight seems to be a lot more optimistic 'cause of what's going on with rates. When we ask about the volumes, it's still kind of stagnant, particularly in some consumer areas. Maybe some businesses are starting to get a little more confident and engaging in some more transactions. You know, the volume portion of the markets getting better still seems to be something we're waiting on.
Speaker #6: Because we've heard some stories and we've seen a lot of indicators go up. And everybody that we talk to in freight seems to be a lot more optimistic because of what's going on with rates.
Speaker #6: But when we ask about the volumes, it's still kind of stagnant, particularly in some consumer areas, maybe some businesses or starting to get a little more confident and engaging in some more transactions.
Speaker #6: But the volume portion of the market's getting better still seems to be somewhere waiting on. So could you elaborate a little bit kind of where in terms of your domestic industry verticals are you starting to see movement in physical volume?
Jeff Kauffman: Could you elaborate a little bit kinda where, in terms of your domestic industry verticals, are you starting to see movement in physical volume, and not just price and rate? I'd say the same thing with the international. I know it's kind of a little tougher to track 'cause that seems to be changing by the minute. Where are you starting to see some of your flows break whatever pattern they've been in as of late?
Jeff Kauffman: Could you elaborate a little bit kinda where, in terms of your domestic industry verticals, are you starting to see movement in physical volume, and not just price and rate? I'd say the same thing with the international. I know it's kind of a little tougher to track 'cause that seems to be changing by the minute. Where are you starting to see some of your flows break whatever pattern they've been in as of late?
Speaker #6: And not just price and rate. And I'd say the same thing with the international. I know it's kind of a little tougher to track because that seems to be changing by the minute.
Speaker #6: But where are you starting to see some of your flows break whatever pattern they've been in as of late?
Bohn Crain: Sure. First I would kind of reinforce or echo your foundational comment, which is this has been more of a capacity-driven dynamic than demand, right?
Speaker #4: Sure. So first, I would kind of reinforce or echo your foundational comment, which is this has been more of a capacity-driven dynamic than demand, right?
Bohn Crain: Sure. First I would kind of reinforce or echo your foundational comment, which is this has been more of a capacity-driven dynamic than demand, right? In terms of freight volumes. You know, as you are aware, you have been following us for a long time, you know we do a fair amount in the government services space and military world. As you can imagine in this market environment and what is going on on the global stage, you know, that is an area where we, you know, we would expect to see and are, you know, enjoying some growth. Similarly, there has been some hurricane, typhoon activities, so there has been opportunities for us to do some work. Those are kind of, you know, historically been some of our go-to areas and that, you know, kind of continues to hold true in the market today.
Bohn Crain: in terms of freight volumes. You know, as you are aware, you have been following us for a long time, you know we do a fair amount in the government services space and military world. As you can imagine in this market environment and what is going on on the global stage, you know, that is an area where we, you know, we would expect to see and are, you know, enjoying some growth. Similarly, there has been some hurricane, typhoon activities, so there has been opportunities for us to do some work. Those are kind of, you know, historically been some of our go-to areas and that, you know, kind of continues to hold true in the market today.
Speaker #4: In terms of freight volumes. But as you're aware, you've been following us for a long time. We do a fair amount in the government services space and military world.
Speaker #4: So, as you can imagine, in this market environment and with what's going on on the global stage, that's an area where we are—we would expect to see and are enjoying some growth.
Speaker #4: Similarly, there's been some hurricane, typhoon activities, so there's been opportunities for us to do some work. And those are—so those have kind of historically been some of our go-to areas.
Speaker #4: And that kind of continues to hold true in the market today. We also are fortunate to have exposure to the data center environment and do a good amount of work in support of that area.
Bohn Crain: You know, we, you know, also are fortunate to have, you know, exposure to the data center environment and, and do, you know, a good amount of work, you know, in support of that area. Those would be some of the kind of higher performing categories. We're also seeing some improvement in the CPG food and beverage space, you know, particularly and most recently in Canada, and some of the opportunities that we're seeing up there. That's been, you know, positive. The kind of traditional, you know, retail luxury goods space, you know, that hasn't been as strong. You know, we've never had particularly large exposures to the e-com space. The de minimis tariffs, we weren't, you know, we weren't particularly impacted by that.
Bohn Crain: You know, we, you know, also are fortunate to have, you know, exposure to the data center environment and, and do, you know, a good amount of work, you know, in support of that area. Those would be some of the kind of higher performing categories. We're also seeing some improvement in the CPG food and beverage space, you know, particularly and most recently in Canada, and some of the opportunities that we're seeing up there. That's been, you know, positive. The kind of traditional, you know, retail luxury goods space, you know, that hasn't been as strong. You know, we've never had particularly large exposures to the e-com space. The de minimis tariffs, we weren't, you know, we weren't particularly impacted by that.
Speaker #4: So those would be some of the kind of higher-performing categories. We're also seeing some improvement in the CPG, food and beverage space. Particularly and most recently in Canada and some of the opportunities that we're seeing up there.
Speaker #4: So that's been positive. The kind of traditional retail luxury goods space, that hasn't been as strong. We've never had particularly large exposures to the e-com space.
Speaker #4: So the minimus tariffs—we weren't particularly impacted by that. But again, as you know, kind of hopping back over to the international side, the ocean rates have just been miserable, particularly in the Trans-Pacific.
Bohn Crain: Again, as you know, kind of hopping back over to the international side, the ocean rates have just been miserable, particularly in the Trans-Pacific. You know, I think even for some of the larger public comps, you know, where they have good news to share on the international, it's on the customs brokerage compliance side of that conversation. Fortunately, we also, you know, have some of that kind of in our portfolio as well, you know. Ocean continues-- the ocean product continues to be a fairly tough intersection, but hopefully that will also improve over time. A lot of this, you know, the more traditional narrative is the capacity tightens off of the West Coast first.
Bohn Crain: Again, as you know, kind of hopping back over to the international side, the ocean rates have just been miserable, particularly in the Trans-Pacific. You know, I think even for some of the larger public comps, you know, where they have good news to share on the international, it's on the customs brokerage compliance side of that conversation. Fortunately, we also, you know, have some of that kind of in our portfolio as well, you know. Ocean continues-- the ocean product continues to be a fairly tough intersection, but hopefully that will also improve over time. A lot of this, you know, the more traditional narrative is the capacity tightens off of the West Coast first.
Speaker #4: And I think even for some of the larger public comps, where they've got news, where they have good news to share on the international, it's on the customs brokerage compliance side of that conversation.
Speaker #4: Fortunately, we also have some of that kind of in our portfolio as well. But ocean continues the ocean product continues to be a fairly tough intersection.
Speaker #4: But hopefully, that will also improve over time. But a lot of this the more traditional narrative is the capacity tightens off of the West Coast first.
Speaker #4: But that really isn't necessarily the case right now. This capacity tightening isn't driven by TransPac imports and its pressure on domestic capacity. The kind of the domestic demand is really coming from the central part of the country, which is a little unusual a little unusual to traditional traffic patterns.
Bohn Crain: That really isn't necessarily the case right now. This capacity tightening isn't driven by TransPac imports and its pressure on domestic capacity. The kind of the domestic demand is really coming from the central part of the country, which is you know, a little unusual to traditional traffic patterns.
Bohn Crain: That really isn't necessarily the case right now. This capacity tightening isn't driven by TransPac imports and its pressure on domestic capacity. The kind of the domestic demand is really coming from the central part of the country, which is you know, a little unusual to traditional traffic patterns.
Speaker #6: Okay. Bohn thank you. That was a lot of detail. Much appreciated. And congratulations.
Jeff Kauffman: Okay, Bohn, thank you. That was a lot of detail. Much appreciated, and congratulations.
Jeff Kauffman: Okay, Bohn, thank you. That was a lot of detail. Much appreciated, and congratulations.
Speaker #4: All right. Thank you.
Bohn Crain: All right. Thank you.
Bohn Crain: All right. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Our next question comes from Mike Vermitt with Newland Capital. Please proceed, Mike.
Operator: Our next question comes from Michael Vermut with Newland Capital. Please proceed, Mike.
Operator: Our next question comes from Michael Vermut with Newland Capital. Please proceed, Mike.
Speaker #7: Hi guys. Well, considering how poor earnings across the board were for everyone else in the first quarter, I think you guys did an excellent job putting up these numbers.
Michael Vermut: Hi, guys. Well, considering how poor earnings across the board were for everyone else in Q1, I think you guys did an excellent job putting up these numbers.
Mike Vermut: Hi, guys. Well, considering how poor earnings across the board were for everyone else in Q1, I think you guys did an excellent job putting up these numbers.
Bohn Crain: Thanks, Mike.
Bohn Crain: Thanks, Mike.
Speaker #7: So again, a couple of questions for you. So, first of all, I know it's been soft and difficult on the international side. But I got to believe the opportunity here is dramatic, right?
Michael Vermut: I got a couple questions for you. First of all, I know it's been soft and difficult on the international side, but I gotta believe the opportunity here is dramatic, right? The expertise, the knowledge of navigating this has to be great. Are there opportunities you're seeing come to us? I assume, you know, that February timeframe internationally was pretty much the bottom, right? That was the most confusion January, February, and it's starting to get better from We're hearing some other forwarders echo those feelings. Are you seeing opportunity come to you because of the complexities now involved?
Mike Vermut: I got a couple questions for you. First of all, I know it's been soft and difficult on the international side, but I gotta believe the opportunity here is dramatic, right? The expertise, the knowledge of navigating this has to be great. Are there opportunities you're seeing come to us? I assume, you know, that February timeframe internationally was pretty much the bottom, right? That was the most confusion January, February, and it's starting to get better from We're hearing some other forwarders echo those feelings. Are you seeing opportunity come to you because of the complexities now involved?
Speaker #7: The expertise, the knowledge of navigating this, has to be great. Are there opportunities you're seeing come to us? I assume that February timeframe internationally was pretty much the bottom, right?
Speaker #7: That was the most confusing January, February. And it's starting to get better from what we're hearing. Some other porters echo those feelings. Are you seeing opportunity come to you because of the complexities now involved?
Speaker #4: Yeah. Well, so first, weather intended or not, I appreciate the double entendre of navigating.
Bohn Crain: Yeah. Well, first, whether intended or not, I appreciate the double entendre of navigating, this.
Bohn Crain: Yeah. Well, first, whether intended or not, I appreciate the double entendre of navigating, this.
Speaker #7: Yes, I did hear that as I said it.
Michael Vermut: Yes. I did hear that as I said it.
Mike Vermut: Yes. I did hear that as I said it.
Speaker #4: Yes. So and indeed, we are we do see it as an opportunity. And in particular, with the navigate platform. And kind of the incremental solution and kind of level of sophistication that we're able to bring to our current and prospective customers.
Bohn Crain: Yes. Indeed we are, you know, we do see it as an opportunity and in particular with the Navegate platform, and kind of the incremental solution and kind of level of sophistication that we're able to bring to our current and prospective customers using Navegate. You know, kind of connecting the dots here a little bit, we, you know, have been, at least in my mind, opportunistic in our own M&A initiatives. We've actually been fairly aggressive in acquiring some NVOCC, you know, ocean service businesses in this softer market environment, you know, effectively giving us an opportunity to buy these businesses on what I believe is the dip. I think that's gonna really work out well for us, you know, over time.
Bohn Crain: Yes. Indeed we are, you know, we do see it as an opportunity and in particular with the Navegate platform, and kind of the incremental solution and kind of level of sophistication that we're able to bring to our current and prospective customers using Navegate. You know, kind of connecting the dots here a little bit, we, you know, have been, at least in my mind, opportunistic in our own M&A initiatives. We've actually been fairly aggressive in acquiring some NVOCC, you know, ocean service businesses in this softer market environment, you know, effectively giving us an opportunity to buy these businesses on what I believe is the dip. I think that's gonna really work out well for us, you know, over time.
Speaker #4: Using navigate and kind of connecting the dots here a little bit. We have been at least in my mind, opportunistic in our own M&A initiatives.
Speaker #4: We've actually been fairly aggressive in acquiring some NVOCC ocean service businesses in this softer market environment, effectively giving us an opportunity to buy these businesses on what I believe was the dip.
Speaker #4: And I think that's going to really work out well for us over time. This current environment won't last forever. And as things ultimately improve, I think we're going to be in really great shape to participate in that uplift.
Bohn Crain: This, you know, current environment won't last forever and, you know, as things, you know, ultimately improve, I think we're gonna be in really great shape, you know, to participate, you know, in that uplift, you know, as it, as it occurs. The Navegate technology itself is really valuable, you know, down to SKU level, landed cost type analysis. As customers are, you know, diversifying their sourcing strategies and trying to understand the implications of tariffs, you know, ultimately on their landed costs, you know, at a unit, you know, SKU unit level, it's gonna be really helpful. Then just, not in this queue, but most recently we expanded our presence in Hong Kong and then opened a new office in Shenzhen that, you know, further complements our operations in Shanghai.
Bohn Crain: This, you know, current environment won't last forever and, you know, as things, you know, ultimately improve, I think we're gonna be in really great shape, you know, to participate, you know, in that uplift, you know, as it, as it occurs. The Navegate technology itself is really valuable, you know, down to SKU level, landed cost type analysis. As customers are, you know, diversifying their sourcing strategies and trying to understand the implications of tariffs, you know, ultimately on their landed costs, you know, at a unit, you know, SKU unit level, it's gonna be really helpful. Then just, not in this queue, but most recently we expanded our presence in Hong Kong and then opened a new office in Shenzhen that, you know, further complements our operations in Shanghai. You know, I think all of that is just kind of setting the stage for the opportunities ahead.
Speaker #4: As it occurs. But the navigate technology itself is really, really valuable down to SKU level, landed cost type analysis. And as customers are diversifying their sourcing strategies and trying to understand the implications of tariffs ultimately on their landed cost at a unit SKU unit level, it's going to be really helpful.
Speaker #4: And then, not just in this queue, but most recently, we expanded our presence in Hong Kong and then opened a new office in Shenzhen that further complements our operations in Shanghai.
Speaker #4: And I think all of that is just kind of setting the stage for the opportunities ahead.
Bohn Crain: You know, I think all of that is just kind of setting the stage for the opportunities ahead.
Speaker #7: Excellent. Just quick on navigate. I know Jason hit on it a little bit. And I know you're not going to put numbers around it.
Michael Vermut: Excellent. Just quickly on that Navegate, I know Jason hit on it a little bit, and I know you're not gonna put numbers around it, but is the expectation that this is gonna be significant to our organic growth over the next few years?
Mike Vermut: Excellent. Just quickly on that Navegate, I know Jason hit on it a little bit, and I know you're not gonna put numbers around it, but is the expectation that this is gonna be significant to our organic growth over the next few years?
Speaker #7: But is the expectation that DES is going to be significant to our organic growth over the next few years?
Speaker #4: Yes, I think it will. And what's interesting, and one of the things that we've been trying to just kind of think through candidly, is how exactly to represent it in our financials.
Bohn Crain: Yes. I think it will. What's interesting, and one of the things that we've been trying to just kind of think through candidly is how exactly to represent it in our financials because there's, you know, in some cases, customers want a separate tech fee. In some cases, they want the tech bundled with their cost of transportation. There's, you know, in some cases, there'll be kind of a conceptually a pure tech fee. What's, you know, honestly more relevant is all the incremental freight we expect to enjoy because of the technology. Whether we ultimately call it, you know, an enterprise type account or some kind of, you know, alternative term to kind of identify this growing ecosystem within our larger transactional account base, that's what we'll need to spend some time thinking through.
Bohn Crain: Yes. I think it will. What's interesting, and one of the things that we've been trying to just kind of think through candidly is how exactly to represent it in our financials because there's, you know, in some cases, customers want a separate tech fee. In some cases, they want the tech bundled with their cost of transportation. There's, you know, in some cases, there'll be kind of a conceptually a pure tech fee. What's, you know, honestly more relevant is all the incremental freight we expect to enjoy because of the technology. Whether we ultimately call it, you know, an enterprise type account or some kind of, you know, alternative term to kind of identify this growing ecosystem within our larger transactional account base, that's what we'll need to spend some time thinking through.
Speaker #4: Because there's the—in some cases, customers want a separate tech fee. In some cases, they want the tech bundled with their cost of transportation.
Speaker #4: So there's in some cases, there'll be kind of a conceptually a pure tech fee. But what's honestly more relevant is all the incremental freight we expect to enjoy because of the technology.
Speaker #4: So whether we ultimately call it an enterprise type account or some kind of alternative term to kind of identify this growing ecosystem within our larger transactional account base, that's what we'll need to spend some time thinking through.
Speaker #5: Okay. This concludes the Q&A portion of our call. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for any closing remarks.
Operator: Okay, this concludes the Q&A portion of our call. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for any closing remarks.
Operator: Okay, this concludes the Q&A portion of our call. I'd like to turn the floor back to management for any closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Let me close by saying that we remain optimistic about our prospects and opportunities to continue to leverage our best-in-class technology robust North America footprint and extensive global network of service partners to continue to build on the great platform we've created here at Radiant.
Bohn Crain: Thank you. Let me close by saying that we remain optimistic about our prospects and opportunities to continue to leverage our best-in-class technology, robust North America footprint, and extensive global network of service partners to continue to build on the great platform we've created here at Radiant. At the same time, we intend to thoughtfully relever our balance sheet through a combination of agent station conversions, synergistic tuck-in acquisitions, and stock buybacks. Through our multi-pronged approach, we believe this will continue to create meaningful value for our shareholders, operating partners, and the end customers that we serve. Thanks for listening and your support of Radiant Logistics.
Bohn Crain: Thank you. Let me close by saying that we remain optimistic about our prospects and opportunities to continue to leverage our best-in-class technology, robust North America footprint, and extensive global network of service partners to continue to build on the great platform we've created here at Radiant. At the same time, we intend to thoughtfully relever our balance sheet through a combination of agent station conversions, synergistic tuck-in acquisitions, and stock buybacks. Through our multi-pronged approach, we believe this will continue to create meaningful value for our shareholders, operating partners, and the end customers that we serve. Thanks for listening and your support of Radiant Logistics.
Speaker #4: At the same time, we intend to thoughtfully re-lever our balance sheet to a combination of agent station conversions, synergistic tuck-in acquisitions, and stock buybacks.
Speaker #4: Through our multi-pronged approach, we believe this will continue to create meaningful value for our shareholders, operating partners, and the end customers that we serve.
Speaker #4: Thanks for listening and your support of Radiant Logistics.
Operator: This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
Operator: This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
