Q1 2026 Acurx Pharmaceuticals Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings, welcome to the Acurx Pharmaceuticals First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. I'd now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Rob Shawah, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.
Operator: Greetings, welcome to the Acurx Pharmaceuticals First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. I'd now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Rob Shawah, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker #2: If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Rob Shawah, Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead, sir. Thank you, Melissa. Good morning. And welcome to our call. This morning, we issued a press release providing financial results and company highlights for the first quarter of 2026, which is available on our website, at acurxpharma.com.
Robert G. Shawah: Thank you, Melissa. Good morning. Welcome to our call. This morning we issued a press release providing financial results and company highlights for Q1 2026, which is available on our website at acurxpharma.com. Joining me today is David P. Luci, President and CEO of Acurx, who will start by providing a corporate update and outlook. Following that, I'll provide some highlights of the financial results from Q1 ended 31 March, then turn the call over to David P. Luci for his closing remarks. As a reminder, during today's call, we'll be making certain forward-looking statements which are based on current information, assumptions, estimates, and projections about future events that are subject to change and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements.
Rob Shawah: Thank you, Melissa. Good morning. Welcome to our call. This morning we issued a press release providing financial results and company highlights for Q1 2026, which is available on our website at acurxpharma.com. Joining me today is David Luci, President and CEO of Acurx, who will start by providing a corporate update and outlook. Following that, I'll provide some highlights of the financial results from Q1 ended 31 March, then turn the call over to David P. Luci for his closing remarks. As a reminder, during today's call, we'll be making certain forward-looking statements which are based on current information, assumptions, estimates, and projections about future events that are subject to change and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: Joining me today is Dave Luci, President and CEO of Acurx. We'll start by providing a corporate update and outlook. Following that, I'll provide some highlights of the financial results from the first quarter ended March 31, and then turn the call over to Dave for his closing remarks.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, during today's call, we'll be making certain forward-looking statements, which are based on current information assumptions, estimates, and projections about future events.
Speaker #2: They are subject to change and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: Investors should consider these risks and other information described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our quarterly report on Form 10-Q, which we filed yesterday, Monday, May 11, 2026.
Robert G. Shawah: Investors should consider these risks and other information described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our quarter report on Form 10-Q, which we filed yesterday, Monday, 11 May 2026. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and Acurx disclaims any obligation to update such statements at any time in the future. This conference call contains time-sensitive information that's accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast, today, 12 May 2026. I'll now turn the call over to Dave. Dave?
Rob Shawah: Investors should consider these risks and other information described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our quarter report on Form 10-Q, which we filed yesterday, Monday, 11 May 2026. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and Acurx disclaims any obligation to update such statements at any time in the future. This conference call contains time-sensitive information that's accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast, today, 12 May 2026. I'll now turn the call over to Dave. Dave?
Speaker #2: You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, and Acurx disclaims any obligation to update such statements at any time in the future.
Speaker #2: This conference call contains time-sensitive information that's accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast—today, May 12, 2026. I'll now turn the call over to Dave.
Speaker #2: Dave?
Speaker #3: Thanks, Rob. Good morning, everyone, and thank you so much for joining us to review our financial results for the first quarter of '26, and also to hear some recent updates.
David P. Luci: Thanks, Rob. Good morning, everyone, thank you so much for joining us to review our financial results for Q1 2026, to hear some recent updates. We'd be pleased to take any questions. For the Q&A, our Executive Chairman, Robert J. DeLuccia, and our Medical Director, Michael Silverman, have joined us today and will be available for those questions about our rCDI program or other matters. First, I'd like to briefly summarize just a few of our key activities for Q1 2026, or in some cases, shortly thereafter. On 9 March 2026, we issued a press release announcing that we're starting up a groundbreaking ibezapolstat clinical trial program in patients with recurrent CDI, or rCDI, that has the potential to shift the paradigm of treatment and prevention of recurrent C. difficile.
David Luci: Thanks, Rob. Good morning, everyone, thank you so much for joining us to review our financial results for Q1 2026, to hear some recent updates. We'd be pleased to take any questions. For the Q&A, our Executive Chairman, Robert DeLuccia, and our Medical Director, Michael Silverman, have joined us today and will be available for those questions about our rCDI program or other matters. First, I'd like to briefly summarize just a few of our key activities for Q1 2026, or in some cases, shortly thereafter. On 9 March 2026, we issued a press release announcing that we're starting up a groundbreaking ibezapolstat clinical trial program in patients with recurrent CDI, or rCDI, that has the potential to shift the paradigm of treatment and prevention of recurrent C. difficile.
Speaker #3: Then we'd be pleased to take any questions. For the Q&A, our executive chairman, Bob DeLucia, and our medical director, Michael Silverman, have joined us today and will be available for those questions about our RCEI program or other matters.
Speaker #3: First, I'd like to briefly summarize just a few of our key activities for the first quarter of 2026, or in some cases, shortly thereafter.
Speaker #3: On March 9, 2026, we issued a press release announcing that we're starting up a groundbreaking Ipesa PulseVac clinical trial program in patients with recurrent CDI, or RCDI.
Speaker #3: That has the potential to shift the paradigm of treatment and prevention of recurrency from two agents to just one—our Ipesa PulseVac. When coupled with Ipesa PulseVac Phase 2 results, which showed a 96% cure rate with no recurrent C. diff in 25 of 25 patients who were cured, sparing the microbiome, this new trial has the potential to position Ipesa PulseVac to be a new standard of care as the first agent to treat both acute CDI and prevent RCDI.
David P. Luci: diff from 2 agents to just 1, our ibezapolstat. When coupled with ibezapolstat phase II results, which showed a 96% cure rate with no recurrent C. diff in 25 of 25 patients who were cured, sparing the microbiome, this new trial has the potential to position ibezapolstat to be a new standard of care as the first agent to treat both acute CDI and prevent rCDI. In the acute CDI phase II trial, all 25 patients, 100%, treated with ibe who experienced a clinical cure of CDI were free of recurrence 1 month after treatment. Very importantly, 5 of 5 of these patients who were observed for 3 months after treatment remained free of recurrence. The new clinical trial in rCDI builds on ibezapolstat's strength, namely that no patients who were cured of their infection experienced a recurrence.
David Luci: diff from 2 agents to just 1, our ibezapolstat. When coupled with ibezapolstat phase II results, which showed a 96% cure rate with no recurrent C. diff in 25 of 25 patients who were cured, sparing the microbiome, this new trial has the potential to position ibezapolstat to be a new standard of care as the first agent to treat both acute CDI and prevent rCDI. In the acute CDI phase II trial, all 25 patients, 100%, treated with ibe who experienced a clinical cure of CDI were free of recurrence 1 month after treatment. Very importantly, 5 of 5 of these patients who were observed for 3 months after treatment remained free of recurrence. The new clinical trial in rCDI builds on ibezapolstat's strength, namely that no patients who were cured of their infection experienced a recurrence.
Speaker #3: In the acute CDI Phase 2 trial, all 25 patients—100%—treated with Ibesa who experienced a clinical cure of CDI were free of recurrence one month after treatment.
Speaker #3: And very importantly, five of these patients who were observed for three months after treatment remained free of recurrence. The new clinical trial in RCDI builds on Ipesa PulseVac's strength, namely that no patients who were cured of their infection experienced a recurrence.
Speaker #3: So clinicians and patients are avoiding the recurrence trap. Associated with currently available therapies. This new trial begins with an open-label pilot study to gain experience with Ibesa in patients with multiply recurrent CDI, who've had at least three episodes of CDI within the past 12 months.
David P. Luci: Clinicians and patients are avoiding the recurrence trap associated with currently available therapies. This new trial begins with an open label pilot study to gain experience with ibe in patients with multiply recurrent CDI who've had at least 3 episodes of CDI within the past 12 months. This will inform elements of a planned active control phase III registration trial in the rCDI indication to be implemented following favorable results from the open label 20-patient trial. Upon subsequent successful completion of the phase III pivotal rCDI trial and per the operative FDA procedure, Acurx plans to request FDA approval for treatment and prevention of rCDI under the FDA's Limited Population Pathway for Antibacterial and Antifungal Drugs Guidance for Industry. Acurx clinical program in the broader acute CDI patient population is ready to advance to phase III international pivotal clinical trials.
David Luci: Clinicians and patients are avoiding the recurrence trap associated with currently available therapies. This new trial begins with an open label pilot study to gain experience with ibe in patients with multiply recurrent CDI who've had at least 3 episodes of CDI within the past 12 months. This will inform elements of a planned active control phase III registration trial in the rCDI indication to be implemented following favorable results from the open label 20-patient trial. Upon subsequent successful completion of the phase III pivotal rCDI trial and per the operative FDA procedure, Acurx plans to request FDA approval for treatment and prevention of rCDI under the FDA's Limited Population Pathway for Antibacterial and Antifungal Drugs Guidance for Industry. Acurx clinical program in the broader acute CDI patient population is ready to advance to phase III international pivotal clinical trials.
Speaker #3: This will inform elements of a planned active-controlled Phase 3 registration trial in the RCDI indication, to be implemented following favorable results from the open-label, 20-patient trial.
Speaker #3: Upon subsequent successful completion of the Phase 3 pivotal RCDI trial, and per the operative FDA procedure, Acurx plans to request FDA approval for treatment and prevention of RCDI under the FDA's Limited Population Pathway for Antibacterial and Antifungal Drugs guidance for industry.
Speaker #3: Acurx clinical program in the broader acute CDI patient population is ready to advance to Phase 3 international pivotal clinical trials. In this regard, we're very excited about the FDA's recent announcement published in the New England Journal of Medicine that a one trial requirement will be FDA's new default standard.
David P. Luci: In this regard, we're very excited about the FDA's recent announcement published in the New England Journal of Medicine that a 1 trial requirement will be FDA's new default standard, that is for registration. If formalized, and we can talk about that in the Q&A, this would end the long-standing 2-trial dogma. We look forward to FDA's further clarification and the potentially favorable implications to our clinical development program, such as the opportunity to seek marketing approval for the acute CDI population with 1 pivotal clinical trial. On 30 March 2026, we announced that the Korean Intellectual Property Office granted a new patent which covers DNA polymerase IIIC inhibitors, including compositions of matter, methods of use, and pharmaceutical compositions, which further strengthen Acurx's intellectual property portfolio and represents the most recent addition to our expanding series of granted patents in the US and internationally.
David Luci: In this regard, we're very excited about the FDA's recent announcement published in the New England Journal of Medicine that a 1 trial requirement will be FDA's new default standard, that is for registration. If formalized, and we can talk about that in the Q&A, this would end the long-standing 2-trial dogma. We look forward to FDA's further clarification and the potentially favorable implications to our clinical development program, such as the opportunity to seek marketing approval for the acute CDI population with 1 pivotal clinical trial. On 30 March 2026, we announced that the Korean Intellectual Property Office granted a new patent which covers DNA polymerase IIIC inhibitors, including compositions of matter, methods of use, and pharmaceutical compositions, which further strengthen Acurx's intellectual property portfolio and represents the most recent addition to our expanding series of granted patents in the US and internationally.
Speaker #3: That is for registration. If formalized and we could talk about that in the Q&A, this would end the long-standing two trial dogma. We look forward to FDA's further clarification and the potentially favorable implications to our clinical development program.
Speaker #3: Such as the opportunity to seek marketing approval for the acute CDI population, with one pivotal clinical trial. On March 30, 2026, we announced that the Korean Patent Office granted a new patent which covers DNA polymerase 3C inhibitors including compositions of matter methods of use and pharmaceutical compositions.
Speaker #3: Which further strengthened Acurx's intellectual property portfolio and represents the most recent addition to our expanding series of granted patents in the US and internationally.
Speaker #3: To date, we've secured ten patents, including five U.S. patents along with patents in Israel, Japan, India, Australia, and Korea, all of which protect key aspects of the company's product pipeline.
David P. Luci: To date, we've secured 10 patents, including 5 US patents, along with patents in Israel, Japan, India, Australia, and Korea, all of which protect key aspects of the company's product pipeline. Also, significantly, a new patent was recently issued relating to ibezapolstat and its use to treat CDI while reducing recurrence of infection and improving the health of the gut microbiome. Additional country-level patent applications remain under review. In February 2026, we announced that the USPTO granted a new patent for our DNA Pol IIIC inhibitors covering composition of matter and method of use. This patent extends to December 2039, subject to extension under US patent rules.
David Luci: To date, we've secured 10 patents, including 5 US patents, along with patents in Israel, Japan, India, Australia, and Korea, all of which protect key aspects of the company's product pipeline. Also, significantly, a new patent was recently issued relating to ibezapolstat and its use to treat CDI while reducing recurrence of infection and improving the health of the gut microbiome. Additional country-level patent applications remain under review. In February 2026, we announced that the USPTO granted a new patent for our DNA Pol IIIC inhibitors covering composition of matter and method of use. This patent extends to December 2039, subject to extension under US patent rules.
Speaker #3: Also, and significantly, a new patent was recently issued relating to Ibezapulsvac and its use to treat CDI, where we do see recurrence of infection and improving the health of the gut microbiome.
Speaker #3: Additional country-level patent applications remain under review. In February 26, we announced that the USPTO granted a new patent for our DNA polymerase ase 3C inhibitors covering composition of matter and method of use.
Speaker #3: This patent extends to December 2039, subject to extension under US patent rules. On April 16, 2026, the company announced the closing of a registered direct offering of 825,000 and 85 shares of our common stock or pre-funded warrants in lieu thereof at a purchase price of $3.03 per share, or pre-funded warrant in lieu thereof.
David P. Luci: On 16 April 2026, the company announced the closing of a registered direct offering of 825,085 shares of our common stock or pre-funded warrants in lieu thereof at a purchase price of $3.03 per share or pre-funded warrant in lieu thereof, priced at the market under Nasdaq rules. In addition, in a concurrent private placement, the company issued unregistered short-term warrants to purchase up to 1,650,170 shares of common stock. The short-term warrants have an exercise price of $2.78 per share and are immediately exercised upon issuance and will expire 24 months following the effective date of the registration statement registering the resale of the shares of common stock underlying the short-term warrants.
David Luci: On 16 April 2026, the company announced the closing of a registered direct offering of 825,085 shares of our common stock or pre-funded warrants in lieu thereof at a purchase price of $3.03 per share or pre-funded warrant in lieu thereof, priced at the market under Nasdaq rules. In addition, in a concurrent private placement, the company issued unregistered short-term warrants to purchase up to 1,650,170 shares of common stock. The short-term warrants have an exercise price of $2.78 per share and are immediately exercised upon issuance and will expire 24 months following the effective date of the registration statement registering the resale of the shares of common stock underlying the short-term warrants.
Speaker #3: Priced at the market under NASDAQ rules. In addition, in a concurrent private placement, the company issued unregistered short-term warrants to purchase up to 1,650,170 shares of common stock.
Speaker #3: The short-term warrants have an exercise price of $2.78 per share, and are immediately exercised upon issuance and will expire 24 months following the effective date of the registration statement registering the resale of the shares of common stock underlying the short-term warrants.
Speaker #3: And that registration statement, I'm happy to say, is now effective. This additional funding, when coupled with the remaining availability under our equity line of credit, ensures that the company has the financial resources to conduct the exploratory clinical trial in recurrent C. difficile infection.
David P. Luci: That registration statement, I'm happy to say, is now effective. This additional funding, when coupled with the remaining availability under our equity line of credit, ensures that the company has the financial resource to conduct the exploratory clinical trial in recurrent C. difficile infection. Just last month, a scientific poster showing our new DNA Pol IIIC systemically absorbed compounds in preclinical development to treat other Gram-positive infections achieved potentially therapeutic plasma levels and reduced MRSA tissue burden while maintaining a high gut microbial diversity similar to baseline and distinct from linezolid. This poster was presented at the 35th Congress of ESCMID Global, the European Society of Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases Annual Scientific Conference, held in Munich, Germany from 17 April to 21 April. Dr. Khursheed A.
David Luci: That registration statement, I'm happy to say, is now effective. This additional funding, when coupled with the remaining availability under our equity line of credit, ensures that the company has the financial resource to conduct the exploratory clinical trial in recurrent C. difficile infection. Just last month, a scientific poster showing our new DNA Pol IIIC systemically absorbed compounds in preclinical development to treat other Gram-positive infections achieved potentially therapeutic plasma levels and reduced MRSA tissue burden while maintaining a high gut microbial diversity similar to baseline and distinct from linezolid. This poster was presented at the 35th Congress of ESCMID Global, the European Society of Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases Annual Scientific Conference, held in Munich, Germany from 17 April to 21 April. Dr. Khursheed A.
Speaker #3: And just last month, a scientific poster showing our new DNA polymerase 3C systemically absorbed compounds in preclinical development to treat other gram-positive infections achieved potentially therapeutic plasma levels and reduced MRSA tissue burden while maintaining a high gut microbial diversity similar to baseline and distinct from linezolid.
Speaker #3: This poster was presented at the 35th Congress of SMID Global with the European Society of Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Disease, annual scientific conference held in Munich, Germany, from April 17 to April 21.
Speaker #3: Dr. Kershita Begum, research scientist, University of Houston College of Pharmacy, presented the poster entitled Pre-clinical Microbiome Evaluation of Novel Polymerase 3C Inhibitor Compounds. Using microbiome profiling metagenomics, the authors concluded that DNA polymerase 3C compounds represent a targeted strategy to treat resistant gram-positive infections while preserving the microbiome structure minimizing downstream complications associated with antibiotic-induced dysbiosis.
David P. Luci: Begum, research scientist, University of Houston College of Pharmacy, presented the poster entitled Preclinical Microbiome Evaluation of Novel DNA Pol IIIC Inhibitor Compounds. Using microbiome profiling metagenomics, the authors concluded that DNA Pol IIIC compounds represent a targeted strategy to treat resistant Gram-positive infections while preserving the microbiome structure, minimizing downstream complications associated with antibiotic-induced dysbiosis. We continue to identify and pursue funding opportunities for our phase III clinical trial program for ibezapolstat and acute CDI. We have several initiatives underway to this end and will report results in future updates. As we've continually reported, ibez clinical and non-clinical results continue to outperform in a serious and potentially life-threatening infectious disease caused by C. difficile bacteria that the CDC categorizes as an urgent threat and calls for new classes of antibiotics for initial treatment and also have a low incidence of recurrence.
David Luci: Begum, research scientist, University of Houston College of Pharmacy, presented the poster entitled Preclinical Microbiome Evaluation of Novel DNA Pol IIIC Inhibitor Compounds. Using microbiome profiling metagenomics, the authors concluded that DNA Pol IIIC compounds represent a targeted strategy to treat resistant Gram-positive infections while preserving the microbiome structure, minimizing downstream complications associated with antibiotic-induced dysbiosis. We continue to identify and pursue funding opportunities for our phase III clinical trial program for ibezapolstat and acute CDI. We have several initiatives underway to this end and will report results in future updates. As we've continually reported, ibez clinical and non-clinical results continue to outperform in a serious and potentially life-threatening infectious disease caused by C. difficile bacteria that the CDC categorizes as an urgent threat and calls for new classes of antibiotics for initial treatment and also have a low incidence of recurrence.
Speaker #3: We continue to identify and pursue funding opportunities for our Phase 3 clinical trial program for IBEZA PulseVac and acute CDI. We have several initiatives underway to this end and will report results in future updates.
Speaker #3: As we continually reported, IBEZA's clinical and non-clinical results continue to outperform in a series of potentially life-threatening infectious disease caused by C difficile bacteria.
Speaker #3: That the CDC categorizes as an urgent threat and calls for new classes of antibiotics for initial treatment that also have a low incidence of recurrence.
Speaker #3: Additionally, IBEZA PulseVac has FDA QIDP and Fast Track designations for treatment of CDI, as well as, in Europe, Small and Medium Enterprise, or SME, status.
David P. Luci: Additionally, ibezapolstat has FDA QIDP and Fast Track designations for treatment of CDI, as well as in Europe, small and medium enterprise or SME status. Furthermore, all Acurx compounds in preclinical development are eligible for a QIDP and Fast Track designation, and they target gram-positive infections classified as serious threat priorities by the CDC. We remain confident that while development of ibezapolstat's competitive profile continues to evolve and strengthen, we'll continue to navigate successfully through these challenging times in the macroeconomic environment and in our industry sector. Back to our CFO, Robert G. Shawah, to guide you through the highlights of our financial results for Q1 2026. Rob?
David Luci: Additionally, ibezapolstat has FDA QIDP and Fast Track designations for treatment of CDI, as well as in Europe, small and medium enterprise or SME status. Furthermore, all Acurx compounds in preclinical development are eligible for a QIDP and Fast Track designation, and they target gram-positive infections classified as serious threat priorities by the CDC. We remain confident that while development of ibezapolstat's competitive profile continues to evolve and strengthen, we'll continue to navigate successfully through these challenging times in the macroeconomic environment and in our industry sector. Back to our CFO, Robert G. Shawah, to guide you through the highlights of our financial results for Q1 2026. Rob?
Speaker #3: Furthermore, all Acurx compounds in preclinical development are eligible for QIDP and Fast Track designation. They target gram-positive infections classified as serious threat priorities by the CDC.
Speaker #3: We remain confident that, while development of IBEZA PulseVac's competitive profile continues to evolve and strengthen, we'll continue to navigate successfully through these challenging times in the macroeconomic environment and in our industry sector.
Speaker #3: And now back to our CFO, Rob Shawah, to guide you through the highlights of our financial results for the first quarter of 2026. Rob?
Speaker #2: Thanks, Dave. Our financial results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2026, were included in our press release, issued earlier this morning. The company ended the quarter with cash totaling $9.3 million compared to $7.6 million as of December 31, 2025.
Robert G. Shawah: Thanks, Dave. Our financial results for the first quarter ended 31 March 2026 were included in our press release issued earlier this morning. The company ended the quarter with cash totaling $9.3 million compared to $7.6 million as of 31 December 2025. During the quarter, the company raised a total of approximately $3.1 million of gross proceeds through purchases under its equity line of credit. Research and development expenses for the 3 months ended 31 March 2026 were $0.3 million, compared to $0.6 million for the 3 months ended 31 March 2025, a decrease of $0.3 million.
Rob Shawah: Thanks, Dave. Our financial results for the first quarter ended 31 March 2026 were included in our press release issued earlier this morning. The company ended the quarter with cash totaling $9.3 million compared to $7.6 million as of 31 December 2025. During the quarter, the company raised a total of approximately $3.1 million of gross proceeds through purchases under its equity line of credit. Research and development expenses for the 3 months ended 31 March 2026 were $0.3 million, compared to $0.6 million for the 3 months ended 31 March 2025, a decrease of $0.3 million.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, the company raised a total of approximately $3.1 million of gross proceeds through purchases under its equity line of credit. Research and development expenses for the three-month ended March 31, 2026, were $0.3 million compared to $0.6 million for the three months ended March 31, 2025.
Speaker #2: A decrease of $0.3 million. The decrease was primarily due to a decrease in manufacturing costs of $0.1 million and a decrease in consulting-related costs of $0.2 million as a result of prior year trial preparation-related expenses.
Robert G. Shawah: The decrease was primarily due to a decrease in manufacturing costs of $0.1 million and a decrease in consulting-related costs of $0.2 million as a result of prior year trial preparation-related expenses. General and administrative expenses for the three months ended 31 March 2026 were $1.4 million. That was compared to $1.6 million for the three months ended 31 March 2025, a decrease of $0.2 million. The decrease was primarily due to a $0.1 million decrease in professional fees and a $0.1 million decrease in legal costs.
Rob Shawah: The decrease was primarily due to a decrease in manufacturing costs of $0.1 million and a decrease in consulting-related costs of $0.2 million as a result of prior year trial preparation-related expenses. General and administrative expenses for the three months ended 31 March 2026 were $1.4 million. That was compared to $1.6 million for the three months ended 31 March 2025, a decrease of $0.2 million. The decrease was primarily due to a $0.1 million decrease in professional fees and a $0.1 million decrease in legal costs.
Speaker #2: General and administrative expenses for the three months ended March 31, 2026, were $1.4 million that was compared to $1.6 million for the three months ended March 31, 2025.
Speaker #2: A decrease of $0.2 million. The decrease was primarily due to a $0.1 million decrease in professional fees and a $0.1 million decrease in legal costs.
Speaker #2: The company reported a net loss of $1.7 million or $62 cents per diluted share for the three months ended March 31, 2026. That was compared to a net loss of $2.1 million or $2.15 per diluted share for the three months ended March 31, 2025.
Robert G. Shawah: The company reported a net loss of $1.7 million or $0.62 per diluted share for the three months ended 31 March 2026. That was compared to a net loss of $2.1 million or $2.15 per diluted share for the three months ended 31 March 2025, all for the reasons previously mentioned. The company had 3,389,106 shares outstanding as of 31 March 2026. With that, I'll turn the call back over to David. David?
Rob Shawah: The company reported a net loss of $1.7 million or $0.62 per diluted share for the three months ended 31 March 2026. That was compared to a net loss of $2.1 million or $2.15 per diluted share for the three months ended 31 March 2025, all for the reasons previously mentioned. The company had 3,389,106 shares outstanding as of 31 March 2026. With that, I'll turn the call back over to David. David?
Speaker #2: All for the reasons previously mentioned. The company had $3,389,106 shares outstanding as of March 31, 2026. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Dave.
Speaker #2: Dave?
Speaker #3: Nice. Thanks, Rob. And to all of you for joining us today. Before bringing our operator, Melissa, back to open the call for questions, I'm pleased to introduce to our call Dr. Michael Silverman.
David P. Luci: Thanks. Thanks, Rob, and to all of you for joining us today. Before bringing our operator, Melissa, back to open the call for questions, I'm pleased to introduce to our call Dr. Michael Silverman, our Medical Director, and Bob DeLuccia, our Executive Chairman, to assist with Q&A regarding our rCDI program or any other matters of an R&D nature. Bob and Michael can also respond to questions regarding the recent FDA guidelines for pivotal phase III trials in C. difficile. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our operator, Melissa, to open the call for any questions. Melissa?
David Luci: Thanks. Thanks, Rob, and to all of you for joining us today. Before bringing our operator, Melissa, back to open the call for questions, I'm pleased to introduce to our call Dr. Michael Silverman, our Medical Director, and Bob DeLuccia, our Executive Chairman, to assist with Q&A regarding our rCDI program or any other matters of an R&D nature. Bob and Michael can also respond to questions regarding the recent FDA guidelines for pivotal phase III trials in C. difficile. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our operator, Melissa, to open the call for any questions. Melissa?
Speaker #3: Our medical director and Bob DeLucci, our executive chairman. To assist with Q&A regarding our RCDI program or any other matters of an R&D nature.
Speaker #3: Bob and Michael can also respond to questions regarding the recent FDA guidelines for pivotal Phase 3 trials in C. difficile. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to our operator, Melissa, to open the call for any questions.
Speaker #3: Melissa?
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Speaker #5: Hi, guys. I want to take my questions. I'd love to walk through the new guidance. You mentioned if this gets formalized, would the one trial only the one trial needed?
James Molloy: Hi, guys. I'll try to take a few of my questions. I'd love to walk through the new guidance. You mentioned, you know, if this gets formalized with only the one trial needed. Can you walk through what the steps are to actually formalize that? How confident are you that this will be the or at least that the recurrent CDI or the phase III CDI trial might fit underneath this rubric of-
James Molloy: Hi, guys. I'll try to take a few of my questions. I'd love to walk through the new guidance. You mentioned, you know, if this gets formalized with only the one trial needed. Can you walk through what the steps are to actually formalize that? How confident are you that this will be the or at least that the recurrent CDI or the phase III CDI trial might fit underneath this rubric of-
Speaker #5: Can you walk through what the steps are to actually formalize that and how confident are you that this will be or at least that the recurrent CDI or the Phase 3 CDI trial might fit underneath this rubric of?
Speaker #3: Well, let me start out just by saying before I turn it over to Bob and Mike, we believe this is it's formalized as far as the FDA is concerned.
David P. Luci: Well, let me, let me start out just by saying, before I turn it over to Bob and Mike, we believe it's formalized as far as the FDA is concerned. It came out as formal guidance Friday night of last week. Now, whether or not it can be formalized in, you know, kind of our lineage of regulatory interaction with the FDA as it applies to ibezapolstat, that's, I think, the question that we have to answer with the FDA. Thankfully, we have a meeting scheduled to address that that Bob and Mike can talk about. Bob, would you like to?
David Luci: Well, let me, let me start out just by saying, before I turn it over to Bob and Mike, we believe it's formalized as far as the FDA is concerned. It came out as formal guidance Friday night of last week. Now, whether or not it can be formalized in, you know, kind of our lineage of regulatory interaction with the FDA as it applies to ibezapolstat, that's, I think, the question that we have to answer with the FDA. Thankfully, we have a meeting scheduled to address that that Bob and Mike can talk about. Bob, would you like to?
Speaker #3: It came out as formal guidance Friday night of last week. Now, whether or not it can be formalized in kind of our lineage of regulatory interaction with the FDA, as it applies to IBEZA PulseVac, that's, I think, the question that we have to answer with the FDA and thankfully, we have a meeting scheduled to address that that Bob and Mike can talk about.
Speaker #3: Bob, would you like to?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Sure. Well, thanks, Dave. And thanks, Jim, for the question. So yeah, we're still going through this in detail as Dave said. It just came out Friday night.
Robert J. DeLuccia: Yeah
Robert DeLuccia: Yeah
David P. Luci: To add to that?
David Luci: To add to that?
Robert J. DeLuccia: Well, thanks, Dave, and thanks, Jim, for the question. Yeah, we're still going through this in detail. As Dave said, it just came out Friday night. At first pass, we don't see anything that'll require a change in our pivotal trial design, which is already agreed to with the FDA. However, we're very excited to see that this new guidance explicitly states, and it now formalizes what had been published previously in the New England Journal of Medicine, but now specifically for C. difficile infection, in that it may be possible to rely on one adequate and well-controlled trial with confirmatory evidence to meet the substantial evidence of effectiveness standards. We've scheduled a meeting, as Dave said, to discuss this with the FDA.
Robert DeLuccia: Well, thanks, Dave, and thanks, Jim, for the question. Yeah, we're still going through this in detail. As Dave said, it just came out Friday night. At first pass, we don't see anything that'll require a change in our pivotal trial design, which is already agreed to with the FDA. However, we're very excited to see that this new guidance explicitly states, and it now formalizes what had been published previously in the New England Journal of Medicine, but now specifically for C. difficile infection, in that it may be possible to rely on one adequate and well-controlled trial with confirmatory evidence to meet the substantial evidence of effectiveness standards. We've scheduled a meeting, as Dave said, to discuss this with the FDA.
Speaker #2: But at first pass, we don't see anything that will require a change in our pivotal trial FDA. However, we're very excited to see that this new guidance explicitly states, and it now formalizes what had been published previously in the New England Journal of Medicine, but now specifically for C. difficile infection.
Speaker #2: In that, it may be possible to rely on one adequate and well-controlled trial with confirmatory evidence to meet the substantial evidence of effectiveness standard.
Speaker #2: And we've scheduled a meeting at Dave said to discuss this with the FDA. And Mike, maybe you can expand a little bit on what FDA considers as confirmatory evidence, which we think strengthens our position with the FDA.
Robert J. DeLuccia: You know, Mike, maybe you can expand a little bit on what FDA considers as confirmatory evidence, which we think strengthens our position with the FDA. Mike?
Robert DeLuccia: You know, Mike, maybe you can expand a little bit on what FDA considers as confirmatory evidence, which we think strengthens our position with the FDA. Mike?
Speaker #2: Mike?
Speaker #5: Sure, Bob. Thank you for that. Do you hear me all right?
Michael Silverman: Sure, Bob. Thank you. Thank you for that. Do you hear me all right?
Michael Silverman: Sure, Bob. Thank you. Thank you for that. Do you hear me all right?
Speaker #2: Yep.
Robert J. DeLuccia: Yep.
Robert DeLuccia: Yep.
Speaker #3: Yes.
David P. Luci: Yes.
David Luci: Yes.
Speaker #5: Yep. The line's good. Okay. And thanks for the question. I just want to emphasize something Dave and Bob said about the formalization. If you will, this new guidance refers back to a lineage of other FDA guidances going back to at least 2019 discussing the feasibility and the requirements for a single trial.
Michael Silverman: Yep, the line's good. Okay, thanks for the question. I just want to emphasize something David P. Luci and Robert J. DeLuccia said about the formalization, if you will. This new guidance refers back to a lineage of other FDA guidances going back to at least 2019, discussing the feasibility and the requirements for a single trial. What is very important is the new guidance, which is a final guidance, it's not a draft guidance, applies it specifically to C. difficile. As Robert J. DeLuccia said, that's one of the things that helps to strengthen our position. The theme that runs through all the guidances that we're discussing, is that a single trial needs to be supported by what FDA considers to be, more or less quoting, substantial, I'm sorry, confirmatory evidence of substantial efficacy.
Michael Silverman: Yep, the line's good. Okay, thanks for the question. I just want to emphasize something David P. Luci and Robert J. DeLuccia said about the formalization, if you will. This new guidance refers back to a lineage of other FDA guidances going back to at least 2019, discussing the feasibility and the requirements for a single trial. What is very important is the new guidance, which is a final guidance, it's not a draft guidance, applies it specifically to C. difficile. As Robert J. DeLuccia said, that's one of the things that helps to strengthen our position. The theme that runs through all the guidances that we're discussing, is that a single trial needs to be supported by what FDA considers to be, more or less quoting, substantial, I'm sorry, confirmatory evidence of substantial efficacy.
Speaker #5: What is very important is the new guidance, which is a final guidance. It's not a draft guidance, applies it specifically to C difficile. And as Bob said, that's one of the things that helps us strengthen our position.
Speaker #5: The theme that runs through all the guidances that we're discussing is that a single trial needs to be supported by what FDA considers to be more or less quoting substantial I'm sorry, confirmatory evidence of substantial efficacy.
Speaker #5: And by confirmatory evidence, they have a number of criteria, a number of categories of other evidence besides the Phase 3 trial that would contribute.
Michael Silverman: By confirmatory evidence, they have a number of criteria, a number of categories of other evidence besides the phase III trial that would contribute. We actually tick a few of those boxes, which again, helps to strengthen our position. One is mechanistic data. In anti-infectives, that is something that we can demonstrate in a straightforward fashion because we have our activity in the test tube, our in vitro data, our MICs or killing data for the bacteria. We also have in vitro test tube data showing anti-virulence activity of our drug, and we have animal efficacy data in the model that is considered to be the standard, and has predicted efficacy of other drugs on the market.
Michael Silverman: By confirmatory evidence, they have a number of criteria, a number of categories of other evidence besides the phase III trial that would contribute. We actually tick a few of those boxes, which again, helps to strengthen our position. One is mechanistic data. In anti-infectives, that is something that we can demonstrate in a straightforward fashion because we have our activity in the test tube, our in vitro data, our MICs or killing data for the bacteria. We also have in vitro test tube data showing anti-virulence activity of our drug, and we have animal efficacy data in the model that is considered to be the standard, and has predicted efficacy of other drugs on the market.
Speaker #5: And we actually tick a few of those boxes, which again helps us strengthen our position. One is mechanistic data. Okay? And an anti-infectious that is something that we can easily we can demonstrate in a straightforward fashion because we have our activity in the test tube, our in vitro data, our MICs or killing data for the bacteria.
Speaker #5: We also have in vitro test tube data showing antivirulence activity of our drug. And we have animal efficacy data in the model that is considered to be the standard.
Speaker #5: And has predicted efficacy of other drugs on the market. We know a great deal about the mechanism of action down to the molecular, in fact, the atomic level which will also support our case.
Michael Silverman: We know a great deal about the mechanism of action down to the molecular, in fact, the atomic level, which will also support our case. We have microbiome data that Dave referred to, which is another mechanistic aspect that helps build the case for not just treatment efficacy, but reduction of recurrence. Circling back, you put that all together, the animal model, again, pulls all these factors together and demonstrates the activity. That is our position of confirmatory evidence of substantial efficacy.
Michael Silverman: We know a great deal about the mechanism of action down to the molecular, in fact, the atomic level, which will also support our case. We have microbiome data that Dave referred to, which is another mechanistic aspect that helps build the case for not just treatment efficacy, but reduction of recurrence. Circling back, you put that all together, the animal model, again, pulls all these factors together and demonstrates the activity. That is our position of confirmatory evidence of substantial efficacy.
Speaker #5: We have microbiome data that Dave referred to, which is another mechanistic aspect that helps build the case for not just treatment efficacy but reduction of recurrence.
Speaker #5: And then circling back, you put that all together, the animal model, again, pulls all these factors together and demonstrates the activity. So that is our position of confirmatory evidence of substantial efficacy.
Speaker #2: Great. Thanks, Mike. Jim, does that answer your question?
David P. Luci: Great. Thanks, Mike. Jim, does that answer your question?
David Luci: Great. Thanks, Mike. Jim, does that answer your question?
Speaker #5: That does. Thank you very much. I guess one of the my last question would be on the Phase label. You suggested there might be an interim look at 10.
James Molloy: That does. Thank you very much. I guess, my last question would be on the phase label. You suggested there might be an interim look at 10, you know, out of 20 people in the trial's expectation. What's sort of the ideal you expect to get from this open-label trial to serve for the design of the phase III, hopefully the single phase III trial? Maybe a quick clarification too. You know, throughout the call, you talk about acute CDI, recurrent CDI. How do those differ materially from sort of regular CDI, and I guess recurrent, obviously, it's recurring, but treating the three-
James Molloy: That does. Thank you very much. I guess, my last question would be on the phase label. You suggested there might be an interim look at 10, you know, out of 20 people in the trial's expectation. What's sort of the ideal you expect to get from this open-label trial to serve for the design of the phase III, hopefully the single phase III trial? Maybe a quick clarification too. You know, throughout the call, you talk about acute CDI, recurrent CDI. How do those differ materially from sort of regular CDI, and I guess recurrent, obviously, it's recurring, but treating the three-
Speaker #5: You're going to have 20 people in the trial's expectation. What's sort of the ideal you expect you would like to get from this open-label trial to serve to the for the design of the Phase 3, hopefully the single Phase 3 trial?
Speaker #5: And then maybe a quick clarification too. Throughout the call, you talk about acute CDI, recurrent CDI, and so how do those differ materially from sort of regular CDI?
Speaker #5: And I guess recurrent—obviously, it's recurring—but treating the three, at the end of the day, it's still sort of the same treatment, correct?
James Molloy: At the end of the day, it's still sort of the same treatment, correct?
James Molloy: At the end of the day, it's still sort of the same treatment, correct?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Mike, go ahead. Yeah, you can clarify this. Between the Phase 3 trials. Yep. Yep.
David P. Luci: Yeah. Mike, go ahead. You know, you can clarify-
David Luci: Yeah. Mike, go ahead. You know, you can clarify-
Michael Silverman: Yeah.
Michael Silverman: Yeah.
Michael Silverman: Between the phase III trial.
Michael Silverman: Between the phase III trial.
Michael Silverman: Sure.
Michael Silverman: Sure.
David P. Luci: Yep.
David Luci: Yep.
Speaker #5: Sure. Sure, Jim. A couple of different aspects of your questions. One is that the 20-patient trial we're doing is in a population with multiple recurrences.
Michael Silverman: Sure. Sure, Jim, a couple of different aspects of your questions. One is that the 20-patient trial we're doing is in a population with multiple recurrences. That's different than the phase III trial we've been talking about as a potential single pivotal trial, which is in patients who've had a single episode or no more than one recurrence. Okay? You're absolutely right that when a patient gets an acute episode of C. diff infection, the patient requires antibiotic treatment. Okay? That's for the acute episode. Generally, it's 10 days, at least that's the standard for the drugs that are approved now. That's 10 days of treatment to cure the acute episode. The problem is that, depending on what you read and what drugs you use, 20% or 30% of those patients will have at least one recurrence.
Michael Silverman: Sure. Sure, Jim, a couple of different aspects of your questions. One is that the 20-patient trial we're doing is in a population with multiple recurrences. That's different than the phase III trial we've been talking about as a potential single pivotal trial, which is in patients who've had a single episode or no more than one recurrence. Okay? You're absolutely right that when a patient gets an acute episode of C. diff infection, the patient requires antibiotic treatment. Okay? That's for the acute episode. Generally, it's 10 days, at least that's the standard for the drugs that are approved now. That's 10 days of treatment to cure the acute episode. The problem is that, depending on what you read and what drugs you use, 20% or 30% of those patients will have at least one recurrence.
Speaker #5: That's different than the Phase 3 trial we've been talking about as a potential single pivotal trial, which is in patients who've had a single episode or no more than one recurrence.
Speaker #5: Okay? You're absolutely right that when a patient gets an acute episode of C diff infection, the patient requires antibiotic treatment. Okay? That's for the acute episode.
Speaker #5: Generally, it's 10 days, at least that's the standard for the drugs that are approved now. So that's 10 days of treatment to cure the acute episode.
Speaker #5: The problem is that depending on what you read and what drug is used, 20 or 30 percent of those patients will have at least one recurrence.
Speaker #5: And the recurrences because the initial infection sets up conditions to allow C diff to recur. The interesting thing about the new guidance is that for the first time it talks about not just treatment and prevention of recurrence.
Michael Silverman: The recurrence is because the initial infection sets up conditions to allow C. diff to recur. The interesting thing about the new guidance is that for the first time, it talks about not just treatment and prevention of recurrence, it talks about long-term prevention of disease in a prophylactic fashion. The opportunities for studying patients for short-term cure, for kind of intermediate or let's say one-month reduction of recurrence, and then for longer-term follow-up for even further reduction of recurrence have actually grown. We still will be treating people acutely, all right. Then we observe after that for rates of recurrence. I'm not sure if that answers all your questions.
Michael Silverman: The recurrence is because the initial infection sets up conditions to allow C. diff to recur. The interesting thing about the new guidance is that for the first time, it talks about not just treatment and prevention of recurrence, it talks about long-term prevention of disease in a prophylactic fashion. The opportunities for studying patients for short-term cure, for kind of intermediate or let's say one-month reduction of recurrence, and then for longer-term follow-up for even further reduction of recurrence have actually grown. We still will be treating people acutely, all right. Then we observe after that for rates of recurrence. I'm not sure if that answers all your questions.
Speaker #5: It talks about long-term prevention of disease in a prophylactic fashion. So the opportunities for studying patients for short-term cure—for kind of intermediate or, let's say, one-month reduction of recurrence—and then for longer-term follow-up for even further reduction of recurrence have actually grown.
Speaker #5: So we still will be treating people acutely all right. And then we observe after that for rates of recurrence. I'm not sure if that answers all your questions.
Speaker #3: Well, so just to add to that, there's two separate pathways. So you can think of it, Jim, like we have kind of two potential shots on goal.
David P. Luci: Well.
David Luci: Well.
James Molloy: That helps.
James Molloy: That helps.
David P. Luci: Just to add to that, there's two separate pathways. You can think of it, Jim, like we have kinda two potential shots on goal. There's the phase III pathway in what we call acute CDI, which is currently 2 phase III registration trials that may now become one trial. Then there's a separate pathway under the LPAD guidance for recurrency that's starting with an exploratory 20-patient phase II look at the data, and then we would do, hopefully, one trial for phase III, if the FDA agrees we have LPAD designation, and then we can get approval in that sense. There's two separate pathways to FDA approval.
David Luci: Just to add to that, there's two separate pathways. You can think of it, Jim, like we have kinda two potential shots on goal. There's the phase III pathway in what we call acute CDI, which is currently 2 phase III registration trials that may now become one trial. Then there's a separate pathway under the LPAD guidance for recurrency that's starting with an exploratory 20-patient phase II look at the data, and then we would do, hopefully, one trial for phase III, if the FDA agrees we have LPAD designation, and then we can get approval in that sense. There's two separate pathways to FDA approval.
Speaker #3: So there's the Phase 3 pathway in what we call acute CDI, which is currently two Phase 3 registration trials that may now become one trial.
Speaker #3: And then there's a separate pathway under the LPAD guidance for recurrent C diff, starting with an exploratory 20-patient Phase 2, look at the data and then we would do hopefully one trial for Phase 3 if the FDA agrees we have LPAD designation.
Speaker #3: And then we could get approval in that sense. So there are two separate pathways to FDA approval.
Speaker #2: And that's RCDA, Dave. You're right. To separate the two. All right? Okay, Jim?
Michael Silverman: That's rCDI, Dave. You're right.
Michael Silverman: That's rCDI, Dave. You're right.
David P. Luci: Yeah.
David Luci: Yeah.
Michael Silverman: the two. Right. Okay, Jim?
Michael Silverman: the two. Right. Okay, Jim?
Speaker #5: Excellent. Thank you for taking my questions.
James Molloy: Excellent. Thank you for taking my questions.
James Molloy: Excellent. Thank you for taking my questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jim.
David P. Luci: Thank you, James.
David Luci: Thank you, James.
Speaker #2: You're welcome.
Michael Silverman: You're welcome.
Michael Silverman: You're welcome.
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Speaker #6: Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the question. Can you talk a little bit about—and you mentioned it briefly—the importance of the microbiome, alterations, or rather, preservation of the good bacteria?
Jason McCarthy: Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the question. Can you talk a little bit about, and you mentioned it briefly, the importance of the microbiome alterations or rather preservation of the good bacteria, how much emphasis there was in the new guidance related to that, and how you plan to present your microbiome data when you meet with FDA this summer, to talk about kind of, I guess, the parameters of the phase III?
Jason McCarthy: Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the question. Can you talk a little bit about, and you mentioned it briefly, the importance of the microbiome alterations or rather preservation of the good bacteria, how much emphasis there was in the new guidance related to that, and how you plan to present your microbiome data when you meet with FDA this summer, to talk about kind of, I guess, the parameters of the phase III?
Speaker #6: How much emphasis there was in the new guidance related to that? And how you plan to present your microbiome data when you meet with FDA this summer to talk about kind of, I guess, the parameters of the Phase 3?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Thank you, Jim. That's a great question. Mike, you can expand a little bit on that, on microbiome with the work of Kevin Gary at Houston?
David P. Luci: Yeah. Thank you, that's a great question. Mike, you can expand a little bit on that, on microbiome with the work of Kevin Garey at University of Houston.
David Luci: Yeah. Thank you, that's a great question. Mike, you can expand a little bit on that, on microbiome with the work of Kevin Garey at University of Houston.
Speaker #5: Yeah, I agree. That is a great question. Microbiome, the microbiome assessment is key to our program, but it's important to understand that this is not something that would be considered for an approvable claim.
Michael Silverman: Yeah, agreed. That is a great question. The microbiome assessment is key to our program, but it's important to understand that this is not something that would be considered for an approvable claim, not something that would initially get us approval or perhaps even end up in the label. Right now, it's an ancillary marker, an exploratory marker, because it is not something that the patient experiences. However, the microbiome is critically important in treatment and reduction of recurrence in C. diff. When a C. difficile infection occurs, and antibiotic is given, there is tremendous alteration of the bacteria which normally live in the gut, the microbiome. The balance of those bacteria change such that the metabolism in the gut changes, particularly the metabolism of bile acids.
Michael Silverman: Yeah, agreed. That is a great question. The microbiome assessment is key to our program, but it's important to understand that this is not something that would be considered for an approvable claim, not something that would initially get us approval or perhaps even end up in the label. Right now, it's an ancillary marker, an exploratory marker, because it is not something that the patient experiences. However, the microbiome is critically important in treatment and reduction of recurrence in C. diff. When a C. difficile infection occurs, and antibiotic is given, there is tremendous alteration of the bacteria which normally live in the gut, the microbiome. The balance of those bacteria change such that the metabolism in the gut changes, particularly the metabolism of bile acids.
Speaker #5: Not something that would initially get us approval, or perhaps even end up in the label. Right now, it's an ancillary marker—an exploratory marker.
Speaker #5: Because it is not something that the patient experiences. However, the microbiome is critically important in treatment and reduction of recurrence in C. diff. When a C. difficile infection occurs, there is an antibiotic given.
Speaker #5: There is tremendous alteration of the bacteria which normally live in the gut—the microbiome. The balance of those bacteria changes such that the metabolism in the gut changes, particularly the metabolism of bile acids.
Speaker #5: And certain bile acids are critical in actually suppressing the growth of C. difficile. So you give an antibiotic like vancomycin, and the bacteria that create those beneficial metabolites are gone.
Michael Silverman: Certain bile acids are critical in actually suppressing the growth of C. difficile. When you give an antibiotic like vancomycin and the bacteria that create those beneficial metabolites are gone, so you don't have those metabolites that suppress C. difficile. That is one of the key aspects in leading to recurrent disease, the absence of the good bacteria and the good metabolites to suppress C. diff. We've seen through our work, as Bob said, with Dr. Garey at University of Houston, that ibezapolstat, and in fact other compounds in the same series that Dave mentioned, are much gentler on the microbiome and do not lead to the eradication of the, quote, "good bacteria" like a drug such as vancomycin would do. Those bacteria that are producing the bile acids that suppress the growth of C.
Michael Silverman: Certain bile acids are critical in actually suppressing the growth of C. difficile. When you give an antibiotic like vancomycin and the bacteria that create those beneficial metabolites are gone, so you don't have those metabolites that suppress C. difficile. That is one of the key aspects in leading to recurrent disease, the absence of the good bacteria and the good metabolites to suppress C. diff. We've seen through our work, as Bob said, with Dr. Garey at University of Houston, that ibezapolstat, and in fact other compounds in the same series that Dave mentioned, are much gentler on the microbiome and do not lead to the eradication of the, quote, "good bacteria" like a drug such as vancomycin would do. Those bacteria that are producing the bile acids that suppress the growth of C.
Speaker #5: So, you don't have those metabolites that suppress C. difficile. That is one of the key aspects leading to recurrent disease: the absence of good bacteria and the good metabolites to suppress C. diff.
Speaker #5: We've seen through our work, as Bob said with Dr. Gary at University of Houston, that Ibesopol stat and, in fact, other compounds in the same series that Dave mentioned are much gentler on the microbiome and do not lead to the eradication of the "good bacteria" like a drug such as vancomycin would do.
Speaker #5: So those bacteria that are producing the bile acids that suppress the growth of C. difficile are maintained, and we believe that's a main feature in reducing recurrence.
Michael Silverman: difficile are maintained. We believe that's a main feature in reducing recurrence. Again, that's not something that would get us approval. It's part of the pharmacology of the drug that we think we can leverage.
Michael Silverman: difficile are maintained. We believe that's a main feature in reducing recurrence. Again, that's not something that would get us approval. It's part of the pharmacology of the drug that we think we can leverage.
Speaker #5: Again, that's not something that would get us approval, but it's part of the pharmacology of the drug that we think we can leverage.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Mike.
Robert J. DeLuccia: Thank you, Mike. Yeah.
Robert DeLuccia: Thank you, Mike. Yeah.
Speaker #6: Great, thank you. And also, when you're thinking about, I guess, the parameters for the Phase 3 and you're talking about your data with FDA this summer, would the recurrence measure or reduced recurrence measure be that standard 30 days?
Jason McCarthy: Great. Thank you. When you're thinking about, I guess, the parameters for the phase III, and you're talking about your data with FDA this summer, would the recurrence measure or reduced recurrence measure be that standard 30 days? Would you go out further, even if exploratory, because you had those 5 people that went out?
Jason McCarthy: Great. Thank you. When you're thinking about, I guess, the parameters for the phase III, and you're talking about your data with FDA this summer, would the recurrence measure or reduced recurrence measure be that standard 30 days? Would you go out further, even if exploratory, because you had those 5 people that went out?
Speaker #6: Would you go out further even if exploratory? Because you had those five people that went out. I think it was 90-plus days that had no recurrence and then all of that with, are you going to have to go head-to-head with vancomycin or Fidaximycin?
Robert J. DeLuccia: Yeah.
Jason McCarthy: I think it was 90 plus days, that had no recurrence? Are you gonna have to go head-to-head with vancomycin or fidaxomicin?
Robert DeLuccia: Yeah.
Jason McCarthy: I think it was 90 plus days, that had no recurrence? Are you gonna have to go head-to-head with vancomycin or fidaxomicin?
Speaker #5: Yeah. Great questions. And again, you're absolutely spot on on this one. The standard that you'll see for the drugs that are approved and in the studies that have been done is following the patients for one month after the completion of treatment to assess reduction of recurrence.
Michael Silverman: Yeah. Great question. Again, you're absolutely spot on on this one. The standard that you'll see for the drugs that are approved and in the studies that have been done is following the patients for 1 month after the completion of treatment to assess reduction of recurrence. fidaxomicin does have some raw numbers in its label, but it does not have a claim for reduction of recurrence, and that's a long story behind that. Right now that's the current standard. We intend to follow patients as we did in phase II. We intend to follow them in phase III for that 1-month standard. Again, spot on, we are gonna follow them out to an additional month to assess for recurrence.
Michael Silverman: Yeah. Great question. Again, you're absolutely spot on on this one. The standard that you'll see for the drugs that are approved and in the studies that have been done is following the patients for 1 month after the completion of treatment to assess reduction of recurrence. fidaxomicin does have some raw numbers in its label, but it does not have a claim for reduction of recurrence, and that's a long story behind that. Right now that's the current standard. We intend to follow patients as we did in phase II. We intend to follow them in phase III for that 1-month standard. Again, spot on, we are gonna follow them out to an additional month to assess for recurrence.
Speaker #5: Fidaximycin does have some raw numbers in its label, but it does not have a claim for reduction of recurrence. And that's a long story behind that.
Speaker #5: And but right now, that's the current standard. We intend to follow patients as we did in Phase 2. We intend to follow them in Phase 3 for that kind of one-month standard.
Speaker #5: But, and you're again spot on, we are going to follow them out to an additional month to assess for recurrence. And the reason that we've chosen that number is because there are two agents out there that are approved for reduction of recurrence and their label has the claim for eight weeks following acute treatment.
Michael Silverman: The reason that we've chosen that number is because there are two agents out there that are approved for reduction of recurrence, and their label has the claim for 8 weeks following acute treatment. We will be following patients for essentially 2 months after the initial treatment to assess for recurrence.
Michael Silverman: The reason that we've chosen that number is because there are two agents out there that are approved for reduction of recurrence, and their label has the claim for 8 weeks following acute treatment. We will be following patients for essentially 2 months after the initial treatment to assess for recurrence.
Speaker #5: So we will be following patients for essentially two months after the initial treatment to assess for recurrence.
Speaker #2: Great. Thank you, Mike. And that's an important distinction that's going to give us a specific advantage. Thanks for the question, for sure.
Robert J. DeLuccia: Great. Thank you, Mike. That's an important distinction, and it's gonna give us a specific advantage. Thanks for the question.
Robert DeLuccia: Great. Thank you, Mike. That's an important distinction, and it's gonna give us a specific advantage. Thanks for the question.
Michael Silverman: For sure.
Michael Silverman: For sure.
Speaker #6: I'm sorry. Those two drugs are which that have the eight-week claim?
Jason McCarthy: I'm sorry, those two drugs are which that have the 8-week claim?
Jason McCarthy: I'm sorry, those two drugs are which that have the 8-week claim?
Speaker #5: Oh yeah, these are in the category that's called live biological products. They're essentially human-made fecal microbiome transplant surrogates. One is Vowst, V-O-W-S-T, and one is Rebyota, R-E-B-Y-O-T-A.
Michael Silverman: Oh, yeah. These are in the category that's called live biological products. They're essentially human-made fecal microbiome transplant surrogates. One is VOWST, V-O-W-S-T, and one is REBYOTA, R-E-B-Y-O-T-A. They're both live bacteria which are administered to try to restore the normal microbiome balance in the gut.
Michael Silverman: Oh, yeah. These are in the category that's called live biological products. They're essentially human-made fecal microbiome transplant surrogates. One is VOWST, V-O-W-S-T, and one is REBYOTA, R-E-B-Y-O-T-A. They're both live bacteria which are administered to try to restore the normal microbiome balance in the gut.
Speaker #5: And they're both live bacteria which are administered to try to restore the normal microbiome balance in the gut.
Speaker #2: Got it. Thank you. Thanks for taking the questions, guys.
Jason McCarthy: Got it. Thank you. Thanks for taking the questions, guys.
Jason McCarthy: Got it. Thank you. Thanks for taking the questions, guys.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Michael Silverman: Thank you.
Michael Silverman: Thank you.
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Speaker #7: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the update. And for taking our question. So just quickly, the FDA guidance also mentions or emphasizes thoughtful selection of patient populations especially when it comes to elderly populations.
Matthew Keller: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the update and for taking our question. Just quickly, you know, the FDA guidance also mentions or, like, emphasizes thoughtful selection of patient populations, especially when it comes to elderly populations. I was wondering if maybe you could talk to us about how your protocols also might align with this part of the guidance, this guidance as well.
Matthew Keller: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the update and for taking our question. Just quickly, you know, the FDA guidance also mentions or, like, emphasizes thoughtful selection of patient populations, especially when it comes to elderly populations. I was wondering if maybe you could talk to us about how your protocols also might align with this part of the guidance, this guidance as well.
Speaker #7: So, I was wondering if maybe you could talk to us about how your protocols also might align with this part of the guidance, this guidance as well.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Mike Silverman here again. Yeah. Good question. We're sensitive to that and we've actually expanded our population relative to Phase 2 to include essentially all ages.
Michael Silverman: Yeah. Michael Silverman here again. Yeah, good question. We're sensitive to that, and we've actually expanded our population relative to phase II to include essentially all ages. This also gets to the notion of a single trial because one of the items that supports single trial for approval is having diversity of your sites, diversity of your patient population, consistency across various subgroups. The types of subgroups we can actually obtain are not all that varied. Okay, we do have the age. We will have geographic diversity. We assume we'll have racial and ethnic diversity. The only other real factor that enters in here is whether it's a first occurrence or whether it's a first recurrence.
Michael Silverman: Yeah. Michael Silverman here again. Yeah, good question. We're sensitive to that, and we've actually expanded our population relative to phase II to include essentially all ages. This also gets to the notion of a single trial because one of the items that supports single trial for approval is having diversity of your sites, diversity of your patient population, consistency across various subgroups. The types of subgroups we can actually obtain are not all that varied. Okay, we do have the age. We will have geographic diversity. We assume we'll have racial and ethnic diversity. The only other real factor that enters in here is whether it's a first occurrence or whether it's a first recurrence.
Speaker #5: This also gets to the notion of a single trial because one of the items that supports single trial for approval is having diversity of your sites, diversity of your patient population.
Speaker #5: Consistency across various subgroups. The types of subgroups we can actually obtain are not all that varied. Okay. We do have the age; we will have geographic diversity.
Speaker #5: We assume we'll have racial and ethnic diversity. And the only other real factor that enters in here is whether it's a first occurrence or whether it's a first recurrence.
Speaker #5: Other than that, the disease is relatively homogeneous. But we are sensitive to the notion of different segments of the population and the need to show consistency across all the segments.
Michael Silverman: Other than that, the disease is relatively homogeneous, but we are sensitive to the notion of different segments of the population and the need to show consistency across all the segments. I hope that helps.
Michael Silverman: Other than that, the disease is relatively homogeneous, but we are sensitive to the notion of different segments of the population and the need to show consistency across all the segments. I hope that helps.
Speaker #5: I hope that helps.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
Robert J. DeLuccia: Yeah.
Robert DeLuccia: Yeah.
Speaker #7: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And then also kind of changing subjects a little bit, but just more housekeeping. When can we expect to start of the RCDI trial?
Matthew Keller: Yeah, absolutely. Also kind of changing subjects a little bit, but just, more housekeeping. When can we expect the start of the rCDI trial?
Matthew Keller: Yeah, absolutely. Also kind of changing subjects a little bit, but just, more housekeeping. When can we expect the start of the rCDI trial?
Speaker #2: Well, we're actually.
Robert J. DeLuccia: Well, we're actually.
Robert DeLuccia: Well, we're actually.
Speaker #6: Go ahead, Bob.
David P. Luci: Go ahead, Bob.
David Luci: Go ahead, Bob.
Speaker #2: Yeah. No. We're actually in startup mode right now. As we are contacting sites, the planned number of sites and we're interacting with those sites for site qualification visits right now.
Michael Silverman: No. We're actually in startup mode right now, as we are contacting sites, the planned number of sites, and we're interacting with those sites for site qualification visits right now. We're actually in a startup mode. We hope to see a first patient in, I would say probably August timeframe. Hopefully we can beat that if we can accelerate it.
Michael Silverman: No. We're actually in startup mode right now, as we are contacting sites, the planned number of sites, and we're interacting with those sites for site qualification visits right now. We're actually in a startup mode. We hope to see a first patient in, I would say probably August timeframe. Hopefully we can beat that if we can accelerate it.
Speaker #2: So we're actually in a startup mode. We hope to see a first patient in, I would say, probably August timeframe. And hopefully, we can beat that if we can accelerate it.
Speaker #7: Yep. Perfect. Makes sense. Thanks again for taking my questions.
Matthew Keller: Yep. Perfect. Makes sense. Thanks again for taking my questions.
Matthew Keller: Yep. Perfect. Makes sense. Thanks again for taking my questions.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Michael Silverman: Thank you.
Michael Silverman: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Matt.
Michael Silverman: Thank you, Matt.
Michael Silverman: Thank you, Matt.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session, and we'll conclude our call today. We thank you for your interest and participation.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session, and we'll conclude our call today. We thank you for your interest and participation. You may now disconnect your lines.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session, and we'll conclude our call today. We thank you for your interest and participation. You may now disconnect your lines.
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Robert J. DeLuccia: Thanks, Melissa.
Robert DeLuccia: Thanks, Melissa.
