Q1 2026 Paysign Inc Earnings Call

May 12, 2026

Operator 2: Good afternoon. My name is Kevin, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to Paysign's Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. After the speaker's remarks, there'll be a question and answer session. You can be placed into the question queue at any time by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero. The comments on today's call regarding Paysign's financial results will be on a GAAP basis unless otherwise noted. Paysign's earnings release was disseminated to the SEC earlier today and can be found in the investor relations section of our website, paysign.com, which includes reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to GAAP reported amounts.

Operator: Good afternoon. My name is Kevin, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to Paysign's Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. After the speaker's remarks, there'll be a question and answer session. You can be placed into the question queue at any time by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero. The comments on today's call regarding Paysign's financial results will be on a GAAP basis unless otherwise noted. Paysign's earnings release was disseminated to the SEC earlier today and can be found in the investor relations section of our website, paysign.com, which includes reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to GAAP reported amounts.

Speaker #1: After the speakers' remarks, there'll be a question-and-answer session. You can be placed in the question queue at any time by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad.

Speaker #1: As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star 0. The comments on today's call regarding Paysign's financial results will be on a gap basis unless otherwise noted.

Speaker #1: Paysign's earnings release was disseminated to the SEC earlier today and can be found in the investor relations section of our website, paysign.com, which includes reconciliations of non-gap measures to gap-reported amounts.

Speaker #1: Additionally, as set forth in more detail in our earnings release, I'd like to remind everyone that today's call will include forward-looking statements regarding Paysign's future performance.

Operator 2: Additionally, as set forth in more detail in our earnings release, I'd like to remind everyone that today's call will include forward-looking statements regarding Paysign's future performance. Actual performance could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Information about the factors that could affect future performance is summarized at the end of Paysign's earnings release and in our recent SEC filings. Lastly, a replay of this call will be available on 12 August until 12 August 2026. Please see Paysign's Q1 2026 earnings call announcement for details on how to access the replay. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Mark Newcomer, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Operator: Additionally, as set forth in more detail in our earnings release, I'd like to remind everyone that today's call will include forward-looking statements regarding Paysign's future performance. Actual performance could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Information about the factors that could affect future performance is summarized at the end of Paysign's earnings release and in our recent SEC filings. Lastly, a replay of this call will be available on 12 August until 12 August 2026. Please see Paysign's Q1 2026 earnings call announcement for details on how to access the replay. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Mark Newcomer, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Actual performance could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Information about the factors that could affect future performance is summarized at the end of Paysign's earnings release and in our section of SEC recent SEC filings.

Speaker #1: Lastly, a replay of this call will be available on August 12th until August 12th, 2026. Please see Paysign's first quarter 2026 earnings call announcement for details on how to access the replay.

Speaker #1: It's not my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Mark Newcomer, president and CEO. Please go ahead. Thank you, Kevin. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Paysign's first quarter 2026 earnings call.

Mark Newcomer: Thank you, Kevin. Good afternoon, everyone, thank you for joining us today for Paysign's Q1 2026 earnings call. I'm Mark Newcomer, President and Chief Executive Officer. Joining me today is Jeffery Baker, our Chief Financial Officer. Also on the call are Matthew Turner, our President of Patient Affordability, and Matthew Lanford, our Chief Payments Officer, both of whom will be available for Q&A following our prepared remarks. Earlier today, we announced our Q1 financial results, which marked the strongest start to a year in Paysign's history. Revenue grew 50.8% to $28 million, exceeding the high end of guidance we provided in March. Net income increased 110% to $5.4 million, and adjusted EBITDA increased 113% to $10.6 million.

Mark Newcomer: Thank you, Kevin. Good afternoon, everyone, thank you for joining us today for Paysign's Q1 2026 earnings call. I'm Mark Newcomer, President and Chief Executive Officer. Joining me today is Jeff Baker, our Chief Financial Officer. Also on the call are Matt Turner, our President of Patient Affordability, and Matt Lanford, our Chief Payments Officer, both of whom will be available for Q&A following our prepared remarks. Earlier today, we announced our Q1 financial results, which marked the strongest start to a year in Paysign's history. Revenue grew 50.8% to $28 million, exceeding the high end of guidance we provided in March. Net income increased 110% to $5.4 million, and adjusted EBITDA increased 113% to $10.6 million.

Speaker #1: I'm Mark Newcomer, president and chief executive officer. Joining me today is Jeff Baker, our chief financial officer. Also on the call are Matt Turner, our president of Patient Affordability, and Matt Lanford, our chief payments officer.

Speaker #1: Both of whom will be available for Q&A following our prepared remarks. Earlier today, we announced our first quarter financial results, which marked the strongest start to a year in Paysign's history.

Speaker #1: Revenue grew 50.8% to 28 million, exceeding the high end of guidance we provided in March. Net income increased 110% to 5.4 million, and adjusted EBITDA increased 113% to 10.6 million.

Speaker #1: Most notably, operating margins increased 1,040 basis points, or 10.4% year over year, demonstrating the operating leverage inherent in our business as we scale across healthcare and financial ecosystems.

Mark Newcomer: Most notably, operating margins increased 1,040 basis points or 10.4% year over year, demonstrating the operating leverage inherent in our business as we scale across healthcare and financial ecosystems. We continue to see strong growth across the patient affordability business in Q1. Revenue grew 82% year over year to $15.7 million, and claim volume was approximately 49% higher than Q1 2025, driven by a combination of new programs launched over the past year, organic growth within the existing programs, and the continued ramp of our largest pharmaceutical clients. As expected, this rate reflects a larger and more established revenue base than a year ago. In Q1 alone, patient affordability generated nearly as much revenue as it did in H1 2025.

Mark Newcomer: Most notably, operating margins increased 1,040 basis points or 10.4% year-over-year, demonstrating the operating leverage inherent in our business as we scale across healthcare and financial ecosystems. We continue to see strong growth across the patient affordability business in Q1. Revenue grew 82% year-over-year to $15.7 million, and claim volume was approximately 49% higher than Q1 2025, driven by a combination of new programs launched over the past year, organic growth within the existing programs, and the continued ramp of our largest pharmaceutical clients. As expected, this rate reflects a larger and more established revenue base than a year ago. In Q1 alone, patient affordability generated nearly as much revenue as it did in H1 2025.

Speaker #1: We continue to see strong growth across the patient affordability business in the first quarter. Revenue grew 82% year over year to 15.7 million, and claim volume was approximately 49% higher than Q1 2025, driven by a combination of new programs launched over the past year, organic growth within the existing programs, and the continued ramp of our largest pharmaceutical clients.

Speaker #1: As expected, this rate reflects a larger and more established revenue base than a year ago. In Q1 alone, patient affordability generated nearly as much revenue as it did in the first half of 2025.

Speaker #1: During the quarter, our patient affordability business delivered more than $540 million in financial assistance to patients, a meaningful step up from approximately $320 million in the first quarter of last year.

Mark Newcomer: During the quarter, our patient affordability business delivered more than $540 million in financial assistance to patients, a meaningful step up from approximately $320 million in Q1 of last year. That growth reflects both the increased number of patients we are serving and the expanding role our business plays in supporting access to high-cost branded therapies. Our dynamic business rules technology continues to deliver substantial economic value to our pharmaceutical clients and the patients that rely upon their therapy, demonstrating both the scale our platform now operates at and the differentiated value our technology provides in helping manufacturers navigate co-pay maximizer and accumulator programs. We launched 4 new programs in Q1, bringing total active programs to 135.

Speaker #1: That growth reflects both the increased number of patients we are serving and the expanding role our business plays in supporting access to high-cost branded therapies.

Speaker #1: Our dynamic business rules technology continues to deliver substantial economic value to our pharmaceutical clients and the patients that rely upon their therapy. Demonstrating both the scale our platform now operates at and the differentiated value our technology provides in helping manufacturers navigate copay-maximizer and accumulator programs.

Speaker #1: We launched four new programs in the first quarter, bringing total active programs to 135. As is typical for the industry, Q1 is the most operationally constrained period of the year, as manufacturers, payers, and pharmacy partners work through plan-year transitions, formulary changes, and deductible resets.

Mark Newcomer: As is typical for the industry, Q1 is the most operationally constrained period of the year as manufacturers, payers, and pharmacy partners work through plan year transitions, formulary changes, and deductible resets. Against that backdrop, our pipeline remains robust, and we are on track to exceed the 55 net program additions we launched in 2025. The strength of that pipeline reflects the trust pharmaceutical manufacturers continue to place in Paysign as a partner in helping patients access and afford the therapies they need. Taken together, the increase we are seeing in program count, claim volume, and benefit dollars deployed reinforce both the scalability of our platform and the durability of demand for our solutions. Last month, we attended the Asembia Specialty Pharmacy Summit, AXS26, in Las Vegas.

Speaker #1: Against that backdrop, our pipeline remains robust, and we are on track to exceed the 55-net program additions we launched in 2025. The strength of that pipeline reflects the trust pharmaceutical manufacturers continue to place in Paysign as a partner in helping patients access and afford the therapies they need.

Speaker #1: Taken together, the increase we are seeing in program count, claim volume, and benefit dollars deployed reinforce both the scalability of our platform and the durability of demand for our solutions.

Speaker #1: Last month, we attended the Assembia Specialty Pharmacy Summit, ASX26, in Las Vegas. Assembia is the most important annual gathering in the specialty pharmaceutical industry and consistently one of the most productive pipeline-generating events on our calendar.

Mark Newcomer: Asembia is the most important annual gathering in the specialty pharmaceutical industry and consistently one of the most productive pipeline generating events on our calendar. It is where the decision makers across pharmaceutical manufacturers, specialty pharmacies, hub providers, and payer partners come together in one place. The conversations we had during those 3 days helped shape our commercial roadmap for the balance of the year. AXS26 was no exception. We conducted more than 50 meetings over 3 days and closed new business while on site.

Speaker #1: It is where the decision-makers across pharmaceutical manufacturers, specialty pharmacies, hub providers, and payer partners come together in one place. And the conversations we had during those three days helped shape our commercial roadmap for the balance of the year.

Speaker #1: ASX26 was no exception. We conducted more than 50 meetings over three days and closed new business while on site. The breadth and depth of these conversations, combined with the deals we secured in real time, reinforce our confidence in both the demand environment and the strength of our pipeline heading into the remainder of 2026.

Mark Newcomer: The breadth and depth of these conversations, combined with the deals we secured in real time, reinforce our confidence in both the demand environment and the strength of our pipeline heading into the remainder of 2026. Turning to our plasma donor compensation business, in Q1, plasma contributed $11.7 million in revenue, a 25% increase over $9.4 million in Q1 2025. Our plasma business also remains a strong source of cash generation, facilitating investments in high opportunity areas. Looking ahead, we expect continued revenue growth as existing centers fill excess capacity, much of which has been unlocked by recent advances in plasmapheresis hardware, bringing significant efficiencies to the plasmapheresis process. In response to that capacity gain, several of our larger collectors have consolidated operations, closing some lower performing centers.

Speaker #1: Turning to our plasma donor compensation business, in the first quarter, plasma contributed 11.7 million in revenue, a 25% increase over 9.4 million in Q1 2025.

Speaker #1: Our plasma business also remains a strong source of cash generation, facilitating investments in high-opportunity areas. Looking ahead, we expect continued revenue growth as existing centers fill excess capacity much of which has been unlocked by recent advances in plasmapheresis hardware, bringing significant efficiencies to the plasmapheresis process.

Speaker #1: In response to that capacity gain, several of our larger collectors have consolidated operations, closing some lower-performing centers. Historically, these closures have had minimal impact on our results, as donors typically transition to nearby centers, and we expect that same pattern to play out following our clients' closure of 19 centers in early May.

Mark Newcomer: Historically, these closures have had minimal impact on our results as donors typically transition to nearby centers, and we expect that same pattern to play out following our client's closure of 19 centers in early May. We exited the quarter with 573 centers, an increase of 89 centers over the previous year, but 22 less than the end of 2025, as several low-performing centers were either sold to collectors that do not utilize our services or closed. Again, we do not believe these closings will negatively affect our growth outlook, and we continue to pursue the remaining plasma collection companies that we do not currently service. In late April, we sponsored the International Plasma Protein Congress in Milan, Italy, where we engaged with plasma collectors, device manufacturers, and industry participants from the US, Europe, and Asia.

Speaker #1: We exited the quarter with $573 centers, an increase of 89 centers over the previous year. But 22 less than the end of 2025, as several low-performing centers were either sold to collectors that do not utilize our services or closed.

Speaker #1: Again, we do not believe these closings will negatively affect our growth outlook, and we continue to pursue the remaining plasma collection companies that we do not currently service.

Speaker #1: In late April, we sponsored the International Plasma Protein Congress in Milan, Italy, where we engaged with plasma collectors, device manufacturers, and industry participants from the U.S., Europe, and Asia.

Speaker #1: The conference generated meaningful progress for our software-as-a-service suite of solutions, including the discussions with plasma collection companies across all three regions and with plasmapheresis device manufacturers regarding direct integration to our platform.

Mark Newcomer: The conference generated meaningful progress for our SaaS suite of solutions, including the discussions with plasma collection companies across all three regions and with plasmapheresis device manufacturers regarding direct integration to our platform. Direct integration of our software with plasmapheresis device eliminates manual steps that can introduce human error in the collection process. It also streamlines implementation and reduces friction for collection centers when transitioning to our platform, creating a clear operational benefit. Beyond the US, we continue to view Europe and Asia as significant long-term opportunities for our SaaS solutions across the blood and plasma collection industries. In summary, the first quarter marked an outstanding start to 2026 and a meaningful inflection point for Paysign. We delivered record results across the business and, more importantly, validated strategic direction we have set. Purpose-built platforms grounded in deep industry expertise, scaling with discipline as we grow.

Speaker #1: Direct integration of our software with plasmapheresis device eliminates manual steps that can introduce human error in the collection process. It also streamlines implementation and reduces friction for collection centers when transitioning to our platform, creating a clear operational benefit.

Speaker #1: Beyond the U.S., we continue to view Europe and Asia as significant long-term opportunities for our SaaS solutions across the blood and plasma collection industries.

Speaker #1: In summary, the first quarter marked an outstanding start to 2026 and a meaningful inflection point for Paysign. We delivered record results across the business and, more importantly, validated strategic direction we have set.

Speaker #1: Purpose-built platforms grounded in deep industry expertise scaling with discipline as we grow. With strong momentum and patient affordability, a robust pipeline, and expanding opportunities both within and beyond healthcare, we are well positioned to drive sustained growth and create long-term value for shareholders, customers, and the individuals we ultimately serve.

Mark Newcomer: With strong momentum in patient affordability, a robust pipeline, and expanding opportunities both within and beyond healthcare, we are well positioned to drive sustained growth and create long-term value for shareholders, customers, and the individuals we ultimately serve. With that, I'll turn it over to Jeff for additional details on our Q1 financial results.

Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn it over to Jeff for additional details on our first-quarter financial results.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon, everyone. As Mark highlighted, our first quarter results reflect continued momentum in our business, the growing financial impact of our patient affordability platform, and the inflection point we have reached as it relates to operating leverage.

Jeffery Baker: Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon, everyone. As Mark highlighted, our Q1 results reflect the continued momentum in our business, the growing financial impact of our patient affordability platform, and the inflection point we have reached as it relates to operating leverage. For Q1, total revenues increased 50.8% year-over-year to $28 million. Pharma industry revenue increased 81.9% year-over-year to $15.7 million, driven by 45 net pharma patient affordability programs launched during the past 12 months and a corresponding increase in monthly management fees, setup fees, claim processing fees, and other billable services such as dynamic business rules and customer service contact center support. Processed claims increased by approximately 49% compared to Q1 of 2025.

Jeff Baker: Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon, everyone. As Mark highlighted, our Q1 results reflect the continued momentum in our business, the growing financial impact of our patient affordability platform, and the inflection point we have reached as it relates to operating leverage. For Q1, total revenues increased 50.8% year-over-year to $28 million. Pharma industry revenue increased 81.9% year-over-year to $15.7 million, driven by 45 net pharma patient affordability programs launched during the past 12 months and a corresponding increase in monthly management fees, setup fees, claim processing fees, and other billable services such as dynamic business rules and customer service contact center support. Processed claims increased by approximately 49% compared to Q1 of 2025.

Speaker #2: For the first quarter, total revenues increased 50.8% year over year to $28 million. Pharma industry revenue increased 81.9% year over year to $15.7 million, driven by 45 net pharma patient affordability programs launched during the past 12 months, and a corresponding increase in monthly management fees, setup fees, claim processing fees, and other billable services such as dynamic business rules and customer service contact center support.

Speaker #2: Processed claims increased by approximately 49% compared to the first quarter of 2025. For the first time, pharma surpassed plasma to become our largest revenue contributor in the quarter, a milestone that reflects the strategic direction we have been executing against and the growing importance patient affordability plays in our business.

Jeffery Baker: For the first time, pharma surpassed plasma to become our largest revenue contributor in the quarter, a milestone that reflects the strategic direction we have been executing against and the growing importance patient affordability plays in our business. Plasma revenue increased 24.9% year over year to $11.7 million. The average monthly revenue per center increased to $6,671 versus $6,517, and the average number of loads per center increased on a year-over-year basis for the first time since the industry experienced an inventory correction that began in 2024. As Mark noted, we exited the quarter with 573 centers below our guidance of 589 as one customer notified us they had sold all their centers to a competing provider.

Jeff Baker: For the first time, pharma surpassed plasma to become our largest revenue contributor in the quarter, a milestone that reflects the strategic direction we have been executing against and the growing importance patient affordability plays in our business. Plasma revenue increased 24.9% year-over-year to $11.7 million. The average monthly revenue per center increased to $6,671 versus $6,517, and the average number of loads per center increased on a year-over-year basis for the first time since the industry experienced an inventory correction that began in 2024. As Mark noted, we exited the quarter with 573 centers below our guidance of 589 as one customer notified us they had sold all their centers to a competing provider.

Speaker #2: Plasma revenue increased 24.9% year over year to $11.7 million. The average monthly revenue per center increased to $6,671 versus $6,517, and the average number of loads per center increased on a year-over-year basis for the first time since the industry experienced an inventory correction that began in 2024.

Speaker #2: As Mark noted, we exited the quarter with 573 centers, below our guidance of 589, as one customer notified us they had sold all their centers to a competing provider.

Speaker #2: These centers contributed approximately $650,000 in 2025 revenue and averaged less than $3,500 per month in revenue, which is below the corporate average of $6,671.

Jeffery Baker: These centers contributed approximately $650,000 in 2025 revenue and averaged less than $3,500 per month in revenue, which is below the corporate average of $6,671. Gross profit margin expanded to 65% from 62.9% in Q1 2025, reflecting a greater mix of pharma revenue, which carries higher gross margins than our plasma business. Cost of revenues increased 42.2%, driven mainly by increased call center support expense associated with the growth in both our plasma and pharma businesses and higher processing and commission costs, all of which grew well below our revenue growth of 50.8%, demonstrating the operating leverage inherent in our business.

Jeff Baker: These centers contributed approximately $650,000 in 2025 revenue and averaged less than $3,500 per month in revenue, which is below the corporate average of $6,671. Gross profit margin expanded to 65% from 62.9% in Q1 2025, reflecting a greater mix of pharma revenue, which carries higher gross margins than our plasma business. Cost of revenues increased 42.2%, driven mainly by increased call center support expense associated with the growth in both our plasma and pharma businesses and higher processing and commission costs, all of which grew well below our revenue growth of 50.8%, demonstrating the operating leverage inherent in our business.

Speaker #2: Gross profit margin expanded to 65% from 62.9% in the first quarter of 2025, reflecting a greater mix of pharma revenue, which carries higher gross margins than our plasma business.

Speaker #2: Cost of revenues increased 42.2%, driven mainly by increased call center support, expense associated with the growth in both our plasma and pharma businesses, and higher processing and commission costs, all of which grew well below our revenue growth of 50.8%.

Speaker #2: Demonstrating the operating leverage inherent in our business. Total operating expenses were $11.6 million, an increase of 25.5% from $9.2 million in the first quarter of 2025, again well below our revenue growth rate.

Jeffery Baker: Total operating expenses were $11.6 million, an increase of 25.5% from $9.2 million in Q1 2025. Again, well below our revenue growth rate. Selling general and administrative expenses increased 20.5% to $8.9 million, which includes stock-based compensation of $1.3 million. Depreciation and amortization increased $835,000, due primarily to the amortization of intangible assets from our Gamma acquisition and capitalization of new software development costs. A highlight of the quarter is overall operating leverage amidst strong revenue growth. Operating margin expanded to 23.8% from 13.4% in Q1 2025, an improvement of over 1,000 basis points.

Jeff Baker: Total operating expenses were $11.6 million, an increase of 25.5% from $9.2 million in Q1 2025. Again, well below our revenue growth rate. Selling general and administrative expenses increased 20.5% to $8.9 million, which includes stock-based compensation of $1.3 million. Depreciation and amortization increased $835,000, due primarily to the amortization of intangible assets from our Gamma acquisition and capitalization of new software development costs. A highlight of the quarter is overall operating leverage amidst strong revenue growth. Operating margin expanded to 23.8% from 13.4% in Q1 2025, an improvement of over 1,000 basis points.

Speaker #2: Selling, general, and administrative expenses increased 20.5% to $8.9 million, which includes stock-based compensation of $1.3 million. Depreciation and amortization increased $835,000, due primarily to the amortization of intangible assets from our Gamma acquisition and capitalization of new software development costs.

Speaker #2: A highlight of the quarter is overall operating leverage amidst strong revenue growth. Operating margin expanded to 23.8% from 13.4% in the first quarter of 2025, an improvement of over 1,000 basis points.

Speaker #2: Put another way, we converted approximately $9.4 million in incremental revenue into $4.2 million in operating income. Here are a few other important details for the quarter.

Jeffery Baker: Put another way, we converted approximately $9.4 million in incremental revenue into $4.2 million in operating income. Here are a few other important details for the quarter. Income before taxes increased to $7.5 million from $3.3 million in Q1 2025. The company recorded an income tax provision of $2 million, resulting in an effective tax rate of 27.2% compared to 20.5% in Q1 2025. The higher rate reflects discrete item adjustments, primarily related to the increase in our stock price at 31 March 2026, compared to the same period last year, which reduced the tax benefit from stock-based compensation relative to the prior year period.

Jeff Baker: Put another way, we converted approximately $9.4 million in incremental revenue into $4.2 million in operating income. Here are a few other important details for the quarter. Income before taxes increased to $7.5 million from $3.3 million in Q1 2025. The company recorded an income tax provision of $2 million, resulting in an effective tax rate of 27.2% compared to 20.5% in Q1 2025. The higher rate reflects discrete item adjustments, primarily related to the increase in our stock price at 31 March 2026, compared to the same period last year, which reduced the tax benefit from stock-based compensation relative to the prior year period.

Speaker #2: Income before taxes increased to $7.5 million from $3.3 million in the first quarter of 2025. The company recorded an income tax provision of $2 million resulting in an effective tax rate of 27.2%, compared to 20.5% in the first quarter of 2025.

Speaker #2: The higher rate reflects discrete item adjustments, primarily related to the increase in our stock price at March 31, 2026, compared to the same period last year, which reduced the tax benefit from stock-based compensation relative to the prior-year period.

Speaker #2: Net income for the quarter totaled $5.4 million, or 9 cents per fully diluted share, an increase from 2.6 million. Or 5 cents per fully diluted share in the first quarter of 2025.

Jeffery Baker: Net income for the quarter totaled $5.4 million or $0.09 per fully diluted share, an increase from $2.6 million or $0.05 per fully diluted share in Q1 2025. Adjusted EBITDA, which excludes stock-based compensation and is used by management to evaluate core operating performance, increased 113.4% to $10.6 million or $0.17 per fully diluted share versus $5 million or $0.09 per fully diluted share in Q1 2025. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded to 37.8% from 26.7% a year ago. The fully diluted share count used in calculating per share amounts was 61 million versus 55.1 million in the prior year period.

Jeff Baker: Net income for the quarter totaled $5.4 million or $0.09 per fully diluted share, an increase from $2.6 million or $0.05 per fully diluted share in Q1 2025. Adjusted EBITDA, which excludes stock-based compensation and is used by management to evaluate core operating performance, increased 113.4% to $10.6 million or $0.17 per fully diluted share versus $5 million or $0.09 per fully diluted share in Q1 2025. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded to 37.8% from 26.7% a year ago. The fully diluted share count used in calculating per share amounts was 61 million versus 55.1 million in the prior year period.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA, which excludes stock-based compensation and is used by management to evaluate core operating performance, increased 113.4% to $10.6 million, or $0.17 per fully diluted share, versus $5.0 million, or $0.09 per fully diluted share, in the first quarter of 2025.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded to 37.8% from 26.7% a year ago. The fully diluted share count used in calculating per-share amounts was 61,00,000 versus 55.1 million in the prior-year period.

Speaker #2: We exited the quarter with 20.5 million in unrestricted cash and zero bank debt. Restricted cash increased 15 million to $159 million, primarily related to customer program deposits for our plasma and pharma customers and an increase in funds on card.

Jeffery Baker: We exited the quarter with $20.5 million in unrestricted cash and zero bank debt. Restricted cash increased $15 million to $159 million, primarily related to customer program deposits for our plasma and pharma customers and an increase in funds on card. Now turning to our outlook. Our first quarter results exceeded our guidance across every line of the income statement. Revenue of $28 million exceeded the high end of our $27 to $27.5 million guidance range. Operating margin of 23.8% finished above our guided range of 20% to 22%, and net margin of 19.4% exceeded the top of our 17% to 19% range. Based on our strong start to the year, we are increasingly confident in our ability to achieve the upper end of our 2026 guidance ranges.

Jeff Baker: We exited the quarter with $20.5 million in unrestricted cash and zero bank debt. Restricted cash increased $15 million to $159 million, primarily related to customer program deposits for our plasma and pharma customers and an increase in funds on card. Now turning to our outlook. Our first quarter results exceeded our guidance across every line of the income statement. Revenue of $28 million exceeded the high end of our $27 to $27.5 million guidance range. Operating margin of 23.8% finished above our guided range of 20% to 22%, and net margin of 19.4% exceeded the top of our 17% to 19% range. Based on our strong start to the year, we are increasingly confident in our ability to achieve the upper end of our 2026 guidance ranges.

Speaker #2: Now turning to our outlook. Our first quarter results exceeded our guidance across every line of the income statement. Revenue of $28 million exceeded the high end of our 27 to 27 and a half million dollar guidance range.

Speaker #2: Operating margin of 23.8% finished above our guided range of 20 to 22%, and net margin of 19.4% exceeded the top of our 17 to 19% range.

Speaker #2: Based on our strong start to the year, we are increasingly confident in our ability to achieve the upper end of our 2026 guidance ranges.

Speaker #2: We continue to expect full-year revenue of $106.5 to $110.5 million representing 30 to 35% year-over-year growth, with gross profit margins between 60 and 62%.

Jeffery Baker: We continue to expect full year revenue of $106.5 to $110.5 million, representing 30% to 35% year-over-year growth, with gross profit margins between 60% and 62%. Net income is expected to be in the range of $13 million to $16 million or $0.21 to $0.26 per diluted share, and adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $30 million to $33 million or $0.49 to $0.53 per diluted share. As of today, we have 141 active patient affordability programs and expect to exit the quarter with 147 to 150 active programs. We also expect our active plasma center count to decline to 555 to 560 centers as a customer closed 19 underperforming centers in May.

Jeff Baker: We continue to expect full year revenue of $106.5 to $110.5 million, representing 30% to 35% year-over-year growth, with gross profit margins between 60% and 62%. Net income is expected to be in the range of $13 million to $16 million or $0.21 to $0.26 per diluted share, and adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $30 million to $33 million or $0.49 to $0.53 per diluted share. As of today, we have 141 active patient affordability programs and expect to exit the quarter with 147 to 150 active programs. We also expect our active plasma center count to decline to 555 to 560 centers as a customer closed 19 underperforming centers in May. As in the past, we do not expect any financial impact from these closures as we expect cardholders from these underperforming centers to transition to other centers.

Speaker #2: Net income is expected to be in the range of $13 million to $16 million, or $0.21 to $0.26 per diluted share, and adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $30 million to $33 million, or $0.49 to $0.53 per diluted share.

Speaker #2: As of today, we have 141 active patient affordability programs and expect to exit the quarter with 147 to 150 active programs. We also expect our active plasma center count to decline to 555 to 560 centers as a customer closed 19 underperforming centers in May.

Speaker #2: As in the past, we do not expect any financial impact from these closures as we expect cardholders from these underperforming centers to transition to other centers.

Jeffery Baker: As in the past, we do not expect any financial impact from these closures as we expect cardholders from these underperforming centers to transition to other centers. As a reminder, there is seasonality in both our main businesses. Pharma revenues are typically highest in Q1 as patient affordability claims peak with annual insurance deductible resets and then moderate throughout the balance of the year. Plasma revenues, by contrast, tend to be softest in Q1 and build through the remainder of the year as donor activity normalizes following tax refund season. These seasonal dynamics are anticipated and fully reflected in our full year guidance. Overall, our Q1 results validate the financial framework we laid out in March, and the operating leverage we are generating gives us confidence in our ability to continue delivering on the forecast we have outlined for 2026.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, there is seasonality in both our main businesses. Pharma revenues are typically highest in the first quarter as patient affordability claims peak with annual insurance deductible resets and then moderate throughout the balance of the year.

Jeff Baker: As a reminder, there is seasonality in both our main businesses. Pharma revenues are typically highest in Q1 as patient affordability claims peak with annual insurance deductible resets and then moderate throughout the balance of the year. Plasma revenues, by contrast, tend to be softest in Q1 and build through the remainder of the year as donor activity normalizes following tax refund season. These seasonal dynamics are anticipated and fully reflected in our full year guidance. Overall, our Q1 results validate the financial framework we laid out in March, and the operating leverage we are generating gives us confidence in our ability to continue delivering on the forecast we have outlined for 2026. With that, I would like to turn the call back over to Kevin for question and answers.

Speaker #2: Plasma revenues, by contrast, tend to be softest in the first quarter and build through the remainder of the year as donor activity normalizes following tax refund season.

Speaker #2: These seasonal dynamics are anticipated to be fully reflected in our full-year guidance. Overall, our first quarter results validate the financial framework we laid out in March, and the operating leverage we are generating gives us confidence in our ability to continue delivering on the forecasts we have outlined for 2026.

Speaker #2: With that, I would like to turn the call back over to Kevin for questions and answers.

Jeffery Baker: With that, I would like to turn the call back over to Kevin for question and answers.

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Speaker #3: Yeah. Hey, guys. Appreciate you taking the questions. Congrats on a nice quarter here. Mark, you made a comment that in the beginning of the call, you said you expected to exceed 55 net program ads.

Jacob Stephan: Hey, guys. Appreciate you taking the questions. Congrats on a nice quarter here. Mark, you made a comment that in the beginning of the call, you said you expect to exceed 55 net program adds that you did in 2025. I guess, for starters, what's kind of driving the confidence in the strength in the pipeline? Is there a one-time event out there that you're seeing? Or, is this mostly, and maybe the part B, is this mostly new or existing customers that are additive in the back half of the year?

Speaker #3: That you did in 2025. I guess for starters, what's kind of driving the confidence in the strength in the pipeline? Is there one-time event out there that you're seeing, or is this mostly and maybe as a part B, is this mostly new or existing customers that are additive in the back half of the year?

Matthew Turner: Hey, this is Matthew Turner. I think if you were to look at what the pipeline looks right now, there's a pretty good mix, probably around 50/50, when you look at the program count, you know, that we're talking about now, like, you know, going over 55, where half are gonna be entirely new clients and the other half is gonna be growth inside of existing clients. You know, there's not one moment of inflection point. You know, last time we were on the call, we talked about kind of what inning were we in. I think, you know, this is showing that what we've built on, you know, in the first inning, right, is coming true now.

Speaker #4: Hey, this is Matt Turner. So I think if you were to look at what the pipeline looks right now, if there's a pretty good mix probably around 50/50 when you look at the program count that we're talking about now, like going over 55, where half are going to be entirely new clients and the other half is going to be growth inside of existing clients.

Matt Turner: Hey, this is Matt Turner. I think if you were to look at what the pipeline looks right now, there's a pretty good mix, probably around 50/50, when you look at the program count, you know, that we're talking about now, like, you know, going over 55, where half are gonna be entirely new clients and the other half is gonna be growth inside of existing clients. You know, there's not one moment of inflection point. You know, last time we were on the call, we talked about kind of what inning were we in. I think, you know, this is showing that what we've built on, you know, in the first inning, right, is coming true now.

Speaker #4: I don't think it's any there's not one moment of inflection point. Last time we were on the call, we talked about kind of what inning were we in.

Speaker #4: And I think this is showing that what we built on in the first inning, right, is coming true now. So we've got a larger client base.

Matthew Turner: We've got a larger client base, so we're gonna continue to see new programs from those clients and then also selling never stops. We're always trying to bring new clients onto the platform.

Matt Turner: We've got a larger client base, so we're gonna continue to see new programs from those clients and then also selling never stops. We're always trying to bring new clients onto the platform.

Speaker #4: So we're going to continue to see new programs from those clients. And then also selling their stops. So we're always trying to bring new clients onto the platform.

Speaker #3: Got it. And I mean, if I'm running the numbers, that kind of implies like 190 programs exiting 2026. I guess from a capacity standpoint, do you guys feel like you have the extra bandwidth?

Jacob Stephan: Got it. I mean, if I'm running the numbers, that kind of implies like 190 programs exiting 2026. I guess from a capacity standpoint, you know, do you guys feel like you have the extra bandwidth, I guess what's needed to fully add those programs?

Speaker #3: I guess what’s needed to fully add those programs?

Speaker #4: I don't think there's anything else needed. I mean, we'll continue to hire people to support the business engine on the account management side. From an IT perspective, the systems are robust and well-positioned to handle the growth that we have this year and any years coming.

Matthew Turner: I don't think there's anything else needed. I mean, we'll continue to hire people to support the business, even on the account management side. From an IT perspective, the systems are robust and well, you know, well-positioned to handle the growth that we have this year and any years coming. We've built systems that are high availability, high demand. The partners that we have in the space are all used to higher claim volumes like this. We're confident that we have everything in place that we need to continue to scale the growth year after year.

Matt Turner: I don't think there's anything else needed. I mean, we'll continue to hire people to support the business, even on the account management side. From an IT perspective, the systems are robust and well, you know, well-positioned to handle the growth that we have this year and any years coming. We've built systems that are high availability, high demand. The partners that we have in the space are all used to higher claim volumes like this. We're confident that we have everything in place that we need to continue to scale the growth year after year.

Speaker #4: So we've built systems that are high availability, high demand. The partners that we have in the space are all used to hire claim volumes like this.

Speaker #4: So, we're confident that we have everything in place that we need to continue to scale the growth year after year.

Speaker #3: Got it. And then maybe if we could just touch on some of the guidance commentary—I know you guys said you expect revenue to be roughly equal.

Jacob Stephan: Got it. Then maybe if we could just touch on some of the guidance commentary. I know you guys said you expect revenue to be roughly equal. Looking at kind of the, you know, the plasma centers, obviously you're expecting a decline in Q2 here. I think that implies a pretty significant ramp in the back half for plasma revenue, if I'm catching that right.

Speaker #3: Looking at the plasma centers, obviously you're expecting a decline in Q2 here. I think that implies a pretty significant ramp in the back half for plasma revenue.

Speaker #3: If I'm catching that right?

Speaker #4: No. Revenue for plasma should be up sequentially and continue to grow throughout the rest of the year. So the centers that we called out for the quarter that were sold were garbage centers, to be quite honest with you.

Jeffery Baker: Revenue for plasma should be up sequentially and continue to grow throughout the rest of the year. The centers that we called out for the quarter that were sold were garbage centers, to be quite honest with you. They were below our corporate averages. The centers that were consolidated or shut down, that company has other centers within the proximity of the ones that they closed. What's gonna happen is those cardholders are just gonna move over. You know, there are some. I put some comments out there to give you kind of a heads up. I mean, we saw average loads per center up for the first time since 2024 on a year-over-year basis.

Jeff Baker: Revenue for plasma should be up sequentially and continue to grow throughout the rest of the year. The centers that we called out for the quarter that were sold were garbage centers, to be quite honest with you. They were below our corporate averages. The centers that were consolidated or shut down, that company has other centers within the proximity of the ones that they closed. What's gonna happen is those cardholders are just gonna move over. You know, there are some. I put some comments out there to give you kind of a heads up. I mean, we saw average loads per center up for the first time since 2024 on a year-over-year basis.

Speaker #4: And they were below our corporate averages. And then the centers that were consolidated or shut down, that company has other centers within the proximity of the ones that they closed.

Speaker #4: So what's going to happen is those cardholders are just going to move over. But there are some—I put some comments out there to give you kind of a heads up.

Speaker #4: I mean, we saw average loads per center up for the first time since 2024 on a year-over-year basis. So we talked about the inventory overhang that we experienced all throughout 2025.

Mark Newcomer: We talked about the inventory overhang that we experienced all throughout 2025, and we're seeing early indications that we're through that. Now, what you're seeing is some of the plasma companies trying to become more efficient. They're closing underperforming centers. We've run the numbers on those centers. They should have closed them a long time ago, to be honest with you. The fact that we've gone through this before pretty much every year, and it doesn't impact the numbers. We expect plasma to continue to grow throughout the year, and, you know, hold to that, you know, 50/50 mix right now as we see it, subject to change as we move forward.

Jeff Baker: We talked about the inventory overhang that we experienced all throughout 2025, and we're seeing early indications that we're through that. Now, what you're seeing is some of the plasma companies trying to become more efficient. They're closing underperforming centers. We've run the numbers on those centers. They should have closed them a long time ago, to be honest with you. The fact that we've gone through this before pretty much every year, and it doesn't impact the numbers. We expect plasma to continue to grow throughout the year, and, you know, hold to that, you know, 50/50 mix right now as we see it, subject to change as we move forward.

Speaker #4: And we're seeing early indications that we're through that. Now, what you're seeing is some of the plasma companies trying to become more efficient. They're closing underperforming centers.

Speaker #4: We've run the numbers on those centers. They should have closed them a long time ago to be honest with you. But the matter of fact, we've gone through this before pretty much every year and it doesn't impact the numbers.

Speaker #4: So, we expect plasma to continue to grow throughout the year, and hold to that 50/50 mix right now as we see it—subject to change as we move forward.

Speaker #3: Okay. I appreciate the color, guys. Congrats again.

Jacob Stephan: Okay. Appreciate the color, guys. Congrats again.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Jacob.

Mark Newcomer: Thanks, Jacob.

Jeff Baker: Thanks, Jacob.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Next question is coming from Gary Prestapino. From Barrington Research. Your line is now live.

Operator 2: Thank you. Next question is coming from Gary Prestopino from Barrington Research, your lines are now live.

Operator: Thank you. Next question is coming from Gary Prestopino from Barrington Research, your lines are now live.

Speaker #5: Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Jeff, you guys were throwing around a lot of numbers here. I want to make sure that I've got this right.

Gary Prestopino: Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Jeff, you guys were throwing around a lot of numbers here. I wanna make sure that I've got this right. By your press release, you say you have 135 pharma programs right now, correct?

Speaker #5: By your press release, you say you have 135 pharma programs right now, correct?

Speaker #3: No. Per the press release, for the quarter, we exited the quarter with 135 programs. As I sit here today, at 5:20, we have 141 active programs.

Mark Newcomer: No. Per the press release for the quarter, we exited the quarter with 135 programs.

Jeff Baker: No. Per the press release for the quarter, we exited the quarter with 135 programs.

Mark Newcomer: Right.

Gary Prestopino: Right.

Mark Newcomer: I sit here today at 5:20, we have 141 active programs.

Jeff Baker: I sit here today at 5:20, we have 141 active programs.

Speaker #3: By the end of by the end of the second quarter, I have told you that we will have between 147 to 150 active programs.

Mark Newcomer: Okay.

Gary Prestopino: Okay.

Mark Newcomer: By the end of Q2, I have told you that we will have between 147 to 150 active programs.

Jeff Baker: By the end of Q2, I have told you that we will have between 147 to 150 active programs.

Speaker #5: Okay. That's what I was confused about. And then for the plasma, you have 573 and you're going to be between 550 and 560?

Gary Prestopino: Okay. That's what I was confused about. For the plasma, you have 573, and you're gonna be between 550 and 560?

Speaker #3: Right. We were at 573 at the end of the quarter. And then we had a customer notify us that they were shutting centers on May the 5th, 19 centers.

Mark Newcomer: Right. We were at 573 at the end of the quarter. We had a customer notify us that they were shutting centers on 5 May, 19 centers. I said that we expect it in Q2 with between 555 and 560, 'cause we have some other new centers opening in the pipeline.

Jeff Baker: Right. We were at 573 at the end of the quarter. We had a customer notify us that they were shutting centers on 5 May, 19 centers. I said that we expect it in Q2 with between 555 and 560, 'cause we have some other new centers opening in the pipeline.

Speaker #3: And then I said that we expect it in the second quarter with between 555 and 560. Because we have some other new centers opening in the pipeline.

Speaker #5: Okay, that's helpful. I just wanted to make sure I got that right. So you talked a little bit, Mark, about your plasma platform and how you're integrating into these providers.

Gary Prestopino: Okay. That's helpful. I just wanted to make sure I got that right. You talked a little bit, Mark, about your plasma platform and how you're integrating into these providers. What are the competitive advantages to an entity integrating into the platform, number one? How does that work in conjunction with the app that you developed? Are there any other players out there that have a platform with your technological capabilities?

Speaker #5: What are the competitive advantages to an entity integrating into the platform, number one? How does that work in conjunction with the app that you're developed?

Speaker #5: And then are there any other players out there that have a platform with your technological capabilities?

Speaker #4: If we look at our entire ecosystem of what we've built—the platform, with the various modules of the app, the CRM, the qualitative analysis, and everything else—we do not see any other peers out there that have built anything like what we've built.

Matthew Lanford: If we look at our entire ecosystem of what we've built, you know, the platform with the various modules of the app, the CRM, the qualitative analysis and everything else, we do not see any other peers that are out there that have built anything like we've built. It's kind of, you know, some of the feedback we've gotten from, you know, the various conferences we've gone to is it's a game changer. It, you know, the fact that all of the pieces of the software can communicate together and feed off one another is definitely a step up from what folks have had.

Mark Newcomer: If we look at our entire ecosystem of what we've built, you know, the platform with the various modules of the app, the CRM, the qualitative analysis and everything else, we do not see any other peers that are out there that have built anything like we've built. It's kind of, you know, some of the feedback we've gotten from, you know, the various conferences we've gone to is it's a game changer. It, you know, the fact that all of the pieces of the software can communicate together and feed off one another is definitely a step up from what folks have had.

Speaker #4: Kind of some of the feedback we've gotten from the various conferences we've gone to is, it's a game changer. The fact that all of the pieces of the software can communicate together and feed off one another is definitely a step up from what folks have had.

Matthew Lanford: You know, if you look at it from, you know, from a plasma center perspective, it provides less friction for what they have currently and allows a center to really not only have less friction, but just more ease of use in how they interact with the donors engagement all the way through. It really, you know, it's really about less friction and just better capabilities.

Speaker #4: So if you look at it from a plasma center perspective, it provides less friction for what they have currently and allows for a center to really not only have less friction, but just more ease of use.

Mark Newcomer: You know, if you look at it from, you know, from a plasma center perspective, it provides less friction for what they have currently and allows a center to really not only have less friction, but just more ease of use in how they interact with the donors engagement all the way through. It really, you know, it's really about less friction and just better capabilities.

Speaker #4: And how they interact with the donors' engagement, all the way through. So it really, it's really about less friction and just better capabilities.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you. And then just a couple just a couple more and I'll jump off. I believe one of the individuals and I forgot your name on this is that we were talking about the pharma programs and about 50% are takeaways, 50% are new programs.

Gary Prestopino: Okay. Thank you.

Matthew Lanford: You're welcome.

Mark Newcomer: You're welcome.

Gary Prestopino: Just a couple of more and I'll jump off. I believe one of the individuals, and I forgot your name on this, is that you're talking about the former programs and about 50% are takeaways, 50% are new programs. Is that about how your new wins are footing out?

Speaker #5: Is that about how you're new wins are footing out?

Speaker #6: So, well, there's a difference in a transition versus a launch product, right? So there's quite a bit of a difference there. I mean, you're talking, but he was asking questions about new clients versus existing clients, right?

Mark Newcomer: Well, there's a difference in, you know, a transition versus a, you know, a launch product, right? There's quite a bit of a difference there. I mean, you know, he was asking questions about new clients versus existing clients, right? We look at a client as being a manufacturer. The manufacturer may have 30 drugs, so if they've given us 5, right, last year, and then they add on another 2 or 3 programs this year, right? We're gonna say that's existing client additions. That would be different than transitions, you know, versus launches. I, you know, I don't really have a set number right now that I can tell you, here's how we think that's gonna line up, because the pipeline's the pipeline, right? It's living and breathing.

Matt Turner: Well, there's a difference in, you know, a transition versus a, you know, a launch product, right? There's quite a bit of a difference there. I mean, you know, he was asking questions about new clients versus existing clients, right? We look at a client as being a manufacturer. The manufacturer may have 30 drugs, so if they've given us 5, right, last year, and then they add on another 2 or 3 programs this year, right? We're gonna say that's existing client additions. That would be different than transitions, you know, versus launches. I, you know, I don't really have a set number right now that I can tell you, here's how we think that's gonna line up, because the pipeline's the pipeline, right? It's living and breathing.

Speaker #6: So we look at a client as being a manufacturer, the manufacturer may have 30 drugs. So if they've given us 5, right, last year and then they add on another 2 or 3 programs this year, right, so we're going to say that's existing client additions.

Speaker #6: That would be transitions versus launches. I don't really have a set number right now that I can tell you, "Hey, here's how we think that's going to line up," because the pipeline, right, it's living and breathing.

Mark Newcomer: I think we will see a larger number of transitions than we see new product launches this year. That's, you know, that's where we're sitting right now, you know, in May. At the end of the day, the outcome is still gonna be the same, where we're looking at, you know, hitting our guidance targets.

Speaker #6: I think we will see a larger number of transitions than we see new product launches this year. But that's where we're sitting right now in May.

Matt Turner: I think we will see a larger number of transitions than we see new product launches this year. That's, you know, that's where we're sitting right now, you know, in May. At the end of the day, the outcome is still gonna be the same, where we're looking at, you know, hitting our guidance targets.

Speaker #6: But at the end of the day, the outcome is still going to be the same, where we're looking at hitting our guidance targets.

Speaker #5: Okay. And then just last one, just real quick, and I'll let somebody else get on. It looks like you talked about the conversion of incremental revenue to incremental operating income.

Gary Prestopino: Okay. Then just last one, just real quick and I'll let somebody else get on. It looks like you talked about the conversion of incremental revenue to incremental operating income. I'm measuring it differently. I'm looking at it as incremental adjusted EBITDA conversion, and it looked like that was close to 60% in the quarter, Jeff.

Speaker #5: I'm going to turn it differently. I'm looking at it as incremental adjusted EBITDA conversion. And it looked like that was close to 60% in the quarter, Jeff.

Speaker #5: And then if you look at your guidance going forward, I'm just looking at my numbers. It drops down considerably over the next three quarters.

Jeffery Baker: Correct.

Jeff Baker: Correct.

Jeffery Baker: If you look at your guidance going forward, you know, I'm just looking at my numbers, it drops down considerably over the next 3 quarters. Now, is that just a function of mix because you're gonna get more plasma revenue in the mix versus patient affordability?

Gary Prestopino: If you look at your guidance going forward, you know, I'm just looking at my numbers, it drops down considerably over the next 3 quarters. Now, is that just a function of mix because you're gonna get more plasma revenue in the mix versus patient affordability?

Speaker #5: Now, is that just a function of mix, because you're going to get more plasma revenue in the mix versus patient affordability? Or is there something—

Jeffery Baker: Correct. Exactly.

Jeff Baker: Correct. Exactly.

Gary Prestopino: Or is there some? Okay.

Speaker #5: Okay. Are you guys that's just it? There's no increase in spending for anything beyond just normal growth and stuff like that?

Jeffery Baker: Nope. That's it.

Jeff Baker: Nope. That's it.

Jeffery Baker: That's just it? There's no increase in spending for anything beyond just normal growth and stuff like that?

Gary Prestopino: That's just it? There's no increase in spending for anything beyond just normal growth and stuff like that?

Speaker #3: No. I mean, it's all baked into the guidance. So if you go down and go back through all the guidance that we laid out and the tabular format that's in the press release, nothing's changed.

Jeffery Baker: No, I mean, it's all baked into the guidance. If you, if you go down and go back through all the guidance that we laid out in the tabular format that's in the press release, you know.

Jeff Baker: No, I mean, it's all baked into the guidance. If you, if you go down and go back through all the guidance that we laid out in the tabular format that's in the press release, you know.

Jeffery Baker: Okay

Jeff Baker: Okay

Jeffery Baker: nothing's changed. It's really just mix shift as we go throughout the year. You know, patient affordability should go down a little bit as we have claims that go down just like it did last year, offset by new programs that we add in. Plasma will continue to grow, should continue to grow throughout the year just like it did every year since we've been in the business. You know, the seasonal factor's unchanged, but that's what's that will obviously cause a little shift on the margin side. The comment that we're making about the margin, you know, for the purists out there who, you know, wanna look at operating margin, including depreciation, amortization, stock comp, that's what the numbers were. Your numbers are absolutely correct when you look at adjusted EBITDA.

Jeff Baker: nothing's changed. It's really just mix shift as we go throughout the year. You know, patient affordability should go down a little bit as we have claims that go down just like it did last year, offset by new programs that we add in. Plasma will continue to grow, should continue to grow throughout the year just like it did every year since we've been in the business. You know, the seasonal factor's unchanged, but that's what's that will obviously cause a little shift on the margin side. The comment that we're making about the margin, you know, for the purists out there who, you know, wanna look at operating margin, including depreciation, amortization, stock comp, that's what the numbers were. Your numbers are absolutely correct when you look at adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #3: So it's really just mix shift as we go throughout the year. Patient affordability should go down a little bit as we have claims that go down, just like it did last year.

Speaker #3: Offset by new programs that we add in. And then plasma, we'll continue to grow, should continue to grow throughout the year just like it did every year since we've been in the business.

Speaker #3: So, the seasonal factors are unchanged, but that's what will obviously cause a little shift on the margin side. The comment that we're making about the margin—for the purists out there who want to look at operating margin, including depreciation, amortization, and stock comp—that's what the numbers were.

Speaker #3: But your numbers are absolutely correct when you look at adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you.

Gary Prestopino: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Yeah, man.

Mark Newcomer: Yeah, man.

Jeff Baker: Yeah, man.

Speaker #5: Thank you. As a reminder, that star one to be placed in the question queue. Our next question is coming from John Eckman from Latterberg Pharma.

Operator 2: Thank you. As a reminder, that's star one to be placed into question queue. Our next question is coming from John Eckman from Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is now live.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, that's star one to be placed into question queue. Our next question is coming from John Eckman from Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is now live.

Speaker #5: Your line is now live.

John Eckman: Hi, can you hear me okay?

Jon Hickman: Hi, can you hear me okay?

Speaker #7: Hi. Can you hear me okay?

Speaker #4: Yeah, John. We can hear you.

Mark Newcomer: Yeah, John, we can hear you.

Speaker #7: Okay. Thank you. Congrats on the quarter. Pretty impressive.

John Eckman: Okay. Thank you. Congrats on the quarter. Pretty impressive.

Jon Hickman: Okay. Thank you. Congrats on the quarter. Pretty impressive.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Mark Newcomer: Thank you.

John Eckman: Could you elaborate a little more on the SaaS and the app? Is that live? Are you getting revenues now? Has it been approved by the FDA?

Speaker #7: Could you elaborate a little more on the SaaS and the app? Is that live? Are you getting revenues now? Has it been approved by the FDA?

Jon Hickman: Could you elaborate a little more on the SaaS and the app? Is that live? Are you getting revenues now? Has it been approved by the FDA?

Matthew Lanford: Currently we're having discussions back and forth with the FDA. That's really all I can say right now. We, you know, we continue the process. Looking forward to giving you guys updates as soon as we can.

Speaker #4: Currently, we're having discussions back and forth with the FDA, and that's really all I can say right now. We continue the process and look forward to giving you guys updates as soon as we can.

Mark Newcomer: Currently we're having discussions back and forth with the FDA. That's really all I can say right now. We, you know, we continue the process. Looking forward to giving you guys updates as soon as we can.

Speaker #7: Okay. So you're not generating revenues with it right now?

John Eckman: Okay. You're not generating revenues with it right now?

Jon Hickman: Okay. You're not generating revenues with it right now?

Speaker #4: No. Currently, right now, no.

Matthew Lanford: Currently, right now, no.

Mark Newcomer: Currently, right now, no.

Speaker #7: Okay. Thank you.

John Eckman: Okay. Thank you.

Jon Hickman: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #4: You're welcome.

Matthew Lanford: You're welcome.

Mark Newcomer: You're welcome.

Speaker #7: And then, can you comment a little bit? You said something about non-pharmaceutical programs on the payment side. Any further comments on that?

John Eckman: Can you comment a little bit, you said something about non-pharmaceutical programs on the payment side? Any further comments on that?

Jon Hickman: Can you comment a little bit, you said something about non-pharmaceutical programs on the payment side? Any further comments on that?

Speaker #4: No, really, what we're talking—I mean, it's our mix of other business and plasma, but that's really what we have in relation to non-pharmaceutical business at this point.

Mark Newcomer: No. Really what I mean, you know, it's our mix of other business and plasma, but it's that's really what we have in relation to non-pharmaceutical business at this point. We do have targets that we're going after, but it's kinda premature to discuss those at this point in time. You know, hopefully, we'll be discussing those in the near future.

Speaker #4: We do have targets that we're going after, but it's kind of premature to discuss those at this point in time. But hopefully, we'll be discussing those in the near future.

Speaker #7: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it.

John Eckman: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Jon Hickman: Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker #4: Thanks, John.

Mark Newcomer: Sure.

Speaker #5: Thank you. Next question today is coming from Peter Heckman from DA Davidson. Your line is now live.

Operator 2: Thank you. Next question today is coming from Peter Heckmann from D.A. Davidson. Your line is now live.

Operator: Thank you. Next question today is coming from Peter Heckmann from D.A. Davidson. Your line is now live.

Speaker #8: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. You have your net cash slowly creeping up, almost $21 million in the quarter. Do you have any material obligations beyond the I think there's something like 5 or 6 million perhaps in future payments to the founders of Gamma.

Peter Heckmann: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. You have your net cash slowly creeping up, almost $21 million in the quarter. Do you have any material obligations beyond the, I think there's something like $5 million or $6 million perhaps in future payments to the founders of Gamma? Beyond that, do you have any obligations on that cash? If not, I guess, how are you thinking about allocating some of that cash over the next couple of years?

Speaker #8: But beyond that, do you have any obligations on that cash? And if not, I guess how are you thinking about allocating some of that cash over the next couple of years?

Speaker #3: Hey, Pete. We don't have any obligations for cash payments other than the 6 million remaining to Gamma, which will be paid out annually on the next three anniversary dates of in March.

Jeffery Baker: Hey, Pete. We don't have any obligations for cash payments other than the $6 million remaining to Gamma, which will be paid out annually on the next three anniversary dates in March. Right now we're just, you know, we're holding on to cash and, you know, we'll continue to do that until we find a better use for those funds. You know, the company's never been in this situation, in this good of a situation before, where we've had such high cash levels and we'll continue to, you know, to build that out there for, you know, either acquisitions, or redistribution to shareholders, or, you know, typically what you would do to, you know, to large cash balances.

Jeff Baker: Hey, Pete. We don't have any obligations for cash payments other than the $6 million remaining to Gamma, which will be paid out annually on the next three anniversary dates in March. Right now we're just, you know, we're holding on to cash and, you know, we'll continue to do that until we find a better use for those funds. You know, the company's never been in this situation, in this good of a situation before, where we've had such high cash levels and we'll continue to, you know, to build that out there for, you know, either acquisitions, or redistribution to shareholders, or, you know, typically what you would do to, you know, to large cash balances.

Speaker #3: So right now, we're just holding on to cash. And we'll continue to do that until we find a better use for those funds. But the company's never been in this situation in this good of a situation before where we've had such high cash levels.

Speaker #3: And we'll continue to build that out there for either acquisitions or redistribution to shareholders, or typically what you would do with large cash balances.

Speaker #8: Yep. Yep. And I didn't see it in the press release and haven't seen the queue yet. But were there any share repurchases in the quarter?

Peter Heckmann: Yep. I didn't see it in the press release and haven't seen the queue yet. Were there any share repurchases in the quarter?

Speaker #3: There were not. Not this quarter.

Jeffery Baker: There were not. Not this quarter.

Jeff Baker: There were not. Not this quarter.

Speaker #8: All right. I appreciate it.

Peter Heckmann: All right. I appreciate it.

Jeffery Baker: My pleasure.

Jeff Baker: My pleasure.

Speaker #3: My pleasure.

Speaker #5: Thank you. We appreciate our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over for any further closing comments.

Operator 2: Thank you. We've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over for any further closing comments.

Operator: Thank you. We've reached the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over for any further closing comments.

Speaker #4: Thank you, Kevin. Thank you again for joining us today. We look forward to updating you on our continued progress next quarter. You'll have a wonderful rest of your day.

Mark Newcomer: Thank you, Kevin. Thank you again for joining us today. We look forward to updating you on our continued progress next quarter. You all have a wonderful rest of your day.

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