Q1 2026 Forum Markets Earnings Call

May 14, 2026

Operator: 6 earnings conference call. During today's discussion, all callers will be placed in a listen-only mode. Following management's prepared remarks, the call will be open for questions. This call is being recorded on 14 May 2026, and a replay will be made available on 180 Life Sciences Corp.'s Investor Relations website later today. I will now turn the call over to John Christoff, Senior Vice President, Corporate Communications and Investor Relations.

Speaker #1: Earnings conference call. During today's discussion, all callers will be placed in a listen-only mode. Following management's prepared remarks, the call will be open for questions.

Operator: Sixth earnings conference call. During today's discussion, all callers will be placed in a listen-only mode. Following management's prepared remarks, the call will be open for questions. This call is being recorded on 14 May 2026, and a replay will be made available on Form's Investor Relations website later today. I will now turn the call over to John Christoff, Senior Vice President, Corporate Communications and Investor Relations.

Speaker #1: This call is being recorded on May 14, 2026, and a replay will be made available on Forms and Vesta Relations website later today. I will now turn the call over to John Kristof, Senior Vice President, Corporate Communications and Investor Relations.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Megan. Hello, and thank you all for joining Forms' first quarter 2026 financial results conference call. Joining me on the call today are McAndrew Rudicill, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and John Saunders, Chief Financial Officer.

John Kristoff: Thank you, Megan. Hello, thank you all for joining Forum's Q1 2026 financial results conference call. Joining me on the call today are McAndrew Rudisill, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and John Saunders, Chief Financial Officer. We hope you've had an opportunity to review our Q1 financial results issued earlier this morning. We've also posted an earnings presentation to our investor relations website. As a reminder, some of the matters we'll be discussing on this morning's call are forward-looking in nature. Please keep in mind that actual results could differ materially from what is expressed in these forward-looking statements. Forum assumes no obligation to update the information, we encourage you to refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements.

Speaker #2: We hope you've had an opportunity to review our first quarter financial results issued earlier this morning. We've also posted an earnings presentation to our investor relations website.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, some of the matters we'll be discussing on this morning's call are forward-looking in nature. Please keep in mind that actual results could differ materially from what is expressed in these forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: Form assumes no obligation to update the information, and we encourage you to refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements.

Speaker #2: During our call, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures which we believe provide useful information for investors. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the corresponding GAAP measure can be found in our press release and presentation on our investor relations website.

John Kristoff: During our call, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe provide useful information for investors. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the corresponding GAAP measure can be found in our press release and presentation on our investor relations website. With that, I'll turn the call over to McAndrew.

Speaker #2: And with that, I'll turn the call over to McAndrew.

Speaker #3: Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Since our last call, our team has remained focused on executing our strategy of originating, structuring, and tokenizing institutional-grade cash flow-generating assets to modernize capital markets.

McAndrew Rudisill: Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Since our last call, our team has remained focused on executing our strategy of originating, structuring, and tokenizing institutional-grade cash flow-generating assets to modernize capital markets. We've made meaningful progress across the platform, expanding our asset origination pipelines by entering the AI infrastructure financing space and making significant progress on establishing strategic co-investment partnerships with major financial investment firms. At the same time, we recognize there is a meaningful disconnect between the market's current valuation of the company and the progress we are making and the intrinsic value of the platform that we are building. We've taken deliberate steps to directly address that gap, including activity through our share repurchase program and initiating a formal strategic review aimed at preserving the long-term opportunity in front of us.

Speaker #3: We've made meaningful progress across the platform, expanding our asset origination pipelines by entering the AI infrastructure financing space and making significant progress on establishing strategic co-investment partnerships with major financial investment firms.

Speaker #3: At the same time, we recognize there is a meaningful disconnect between the market's current valuation of the company and the progress we are making, and the intrinsic value of the platform that we are building.

Speaker #3: We've taken deliberate steps to directly address that gap, including activity through our shared repurchase program and initiating a formal strategic review aimed at preserving the long-term opportunity in front of us.

Speaker #3: On the shared repurchase program, since our announcement in April, we repurchased approximately $5.8 million shares for an aggregate purchase price of approximately $24.9 million.

McAndrew Rudisill: On the share repurchase program, since our announcement in April, we repurchased approximately 5.8 million shares for an aggregate purchase price of approximately $24.9 million, representing approximately 28% of our shares outstanding. All shares under the program have been retired and canceled. Following these repurchases, we had approximately 14.5 million shares outstanding as of 30 April 2026. We view repurchasing shares at current levels as a highly accretive use of capital and a direct demonstration of our conviction in the intrinsic value of Forum. Our board authorized the program with the flexibility to act programmatically and opportunistically as market conditions permit. In parallel, the board has established a special committee comprised of independent directors to formally evaluate a full range of strategic alternatives with the objective of maximizing shareholder value.

Speaker #3: Representing approximately 28% of our shares outstanding. All shares under the program have been retired and canceled. Following these repurchases, we had approximately 14.5 million shares outstanding as of April 30, 2026.

Speaker #3: We view repurchasing shares at current levels as a highly accretive use of capital and a direct demonstration of our conviction in the intrinsic value of Form.

Speaker #3: Our board authorized the program with the flexibility to act programmatically and opportunistically as market conditions permit. In parallel, the board has established a special committee comprised of independent directors, to formally evaluate a full range of strategic alternatives.

Speaker #3: With the objective of maximizing shareholder value, this includes engaging with parties that have already approached the company and proactively evaluating all available value creation pathways.

McAndrew Rudisill: This includes engaging with parties that have already approached the company and proactively evaluating all available value creation pathways. These actions reinforce rather than alter our view of the business. We remain highly confident in our operating model, the long-term opportunity in tokenized real-world assets, and in our ability to generate revenue and cash flow as a standalone company. This process reflects our disciplined commitment to ensuring the full value of the business is recognized. While that review is underway, we remain focused on executing on our core strategy and continuing to build and scale the platform. Turning to the platform, we have continued to expand our asset base and deploy capital into high-yield institutional-grade assets that generate income today and create future tokenization pipelines. Most recently, we announced our entry into AI infrastructure financing, specifically short-term bridge loans supporting the acquisition and deployment of NVIDIA GPUs.

Speaker #3: These actions reinforce rather than alter our view of the business. We remain highly confident in our operating model, the long-term opportunity in tokenized real-world assets, and in our ability to generate revenue and cash flow as a standalone company.

Speaker #3: This process reflects our disciplined commitment to ensuring the full value of the business is recognized while that review is underway, we remain focused on executing on our core strategy and continuing to build and scale the platform.

Speaker #3: Turning to the platform. We have continued to expand our asset base and deploy capital into high-yield institutional-grade assets that generate income today, and create future tokenization pipelines.

Speaker #3: Most recently, we announced our entry into AI infrastructure financing, specifically short-term bridge loans supporting the acquisition and deployment of NVIDIA GPUs. These loans finance the period between hardware purchase and long-term financing once the GPUs are operational.

McAndrew Rudisill: These loans finance the period between hardware purchase and long-term financing once the GPUs are operational. Sourced through established partners with a clear path to repayment. We are targeting annualized returns in the mid-teens on these short-duration loans. Critically, these are income-producing assets that generate yield from day one independent of tokenization. While we intend to tokenize a portion of each deal, this structure allows us to put capital to work immediately while building out the pipeline of assets we can ultimately bring on-chain. Given the rapid expansion of demand for AI infrastructure, we view this as a repeatable, scalable opportunity set where we can deploy capital, earn yield, tokenize, and recycle into new transactions. We've made significant progress in establishing relationships with established, well-known institutional investment firms to deploy capital into our asset origination pipelines, particularly our AI infrastructure financing and commercial aircraft engine leasing verticals.

Speaker #3: Sourced through established partners with a clear path to repayment. We are targeting annualized returns in the mid-teens on these short-duration loans. Critically, these are income-producing assets that generate yield from day one independent of tokenization.

Speaker #3: While we intend to tokenize a portion of each deal, this structure allows us to put capital to work immediately while building out the pipeline of assets we can ultimately bring on-chain.

Speaker #3: Given the rapid expansion of demand for AI infrastructure, we view this as a repeatable, scalable opportunity set where we can deploy capital and earn yield, tokenize, and recycle into new transactions.

Speaker #3: We've made significant progress in establishing relationships with established, well-known institutional investment firms to deploy capital into our asset origination pipelines, particularly our AI infrastructure financing and commercial aircraft engine leasing verticals.

Speaker #3: We are confident in our ability to generate meaningful capital deployment opportunities into our asset pipelines enabling Form to earn revenue through origination and asset management fees as we source, structure, and manage assets on behalf of our institutional counterparts with more details to be announced once capital has been actively deployed into our pipelines.

McAndrew Rudisill: We are confident in our ability to generate meaningful capital deployment opportunities into our asset pipelines, enabling Forum to earn revenue through origination and asset management fees as we source, structure, and manage assets on behalf of our institutional counterparts with more details to be announced once capital has been actively deployed into our pipelines. We view the progress we have made establishing these relationships as validation of our sourcing and structuring capabilities and as an early demonstration of how Forum can scale beyond our own balance sheet in access-constrained double-digit yielding asset classes. More broadly, it illustrates the two distinct but complementary distribution paths we are building: Retail access through tokenized products, and institutional access through co-investment agreements and distribution agreements where we can white-label our products on existing institutional platforms.

Speaker #3: We view the progress we have made establishing these relationships as validation of our sourcing and structuring capabilities, and as an early demonstration of how Form can scale beyond our own balance sheet in access-constrained, double-digit yielding asset classes.

Speaker #3: More broadly, it illustrates the two distinct but complementary distribution paths we are building: retail access through tokenized products, and institutional access through co-investment agreements and distribution agreements, where we can white-label our products on existing institutional platforms.

Speaker #3: We continue to believe this is the right strategy, and these opportunities are well aligned with our model and position us to grow meaningfully as we bring more assets onto the platform.

McAndrew Rudisill: We continue to believe this is the right strategy, these opportunities are well aligned with our model and position us to grow meaningfully as we bring more assets onto the platform. As we look ahead, our focus is on scaling the platform by expanding asset pipelines, increasing capital deployment, and broadening distribution. Liquidity.io remains a core part of that strategy, enabling a broader set of investors to access institutional-grade opportunities and serving as our proof point for bringing real-world assets on-chain. Importantly, Liquidity.io is currently undergoing a major platform upgrade that will significantly expand its capabilities. In addition to digital tokens, the enhanced platform will offer trading in stocks, bonds, cryptocurrency, and private credit securities, a meaningfully broader product set that we expect to drive substantial growth in their user base. We anticipate the updated platform will launch late Q2 or early Q3.

Speaker #3: As we look ahead, our focus is on scaling the platform by expanding asset pipelines. Increasing capital deployment and broadening distribution. Liquidity.io remains a core part of that strategy enabling a broader set of investors to access institutional-grade opportunities and serving as our proof point for bringing real-world assets on-chain.

Speaker #3: Importantly, Liquidity.io is currently undergoing a major platform upgrade that will significantly expand its capabilities. In addition to digital tokens, the enhanced platform will offer trading in stocks, bonds, cryptocurrency, and private credit securities.

Speaker #3: A meaningfully broader product set that we expect to drive substantial growth in their user base. We anticipate the updated platform will launch late second quarter or early third quarter.

Speaker #3: For Form, a larger and more diverse Liquidity.io user base directly expands the buyer pool for our tokens on their exchange. Which we view as an important catalyst for driving token distribution at scale.

McAndrew Rudisill: For Forum, a larger and more diverse Liquidity.io user base directly expands the buyer pool for our tokens on their exchange, which we view as an important catalyst for driving token distribution at scale. Combined with the institutional co-investment channels we are building, we are creating a multi-channel distribution model designed to serve both retail and institutional investors and to scale alongside our growing asset base. As we noted previously, we will continue to evaluate potential capital-raising opportunities with a focus on long-term value creation, balance sheet flexibility, and shareholder alignment. Overall, these steps position Forum to build a durable income-generating platform that we can expand across asset classes and distribution channels as we continue to grow.

Speaker #3: Combined with the institutional co-investment channels we are building, we are creating a multi-channel distribution model designed to serve both retail and institutional investors and to scale alongside our growing asset base.

Speaker #3: And as we noted previously, we will continue to evaluate potential capital raising opportunities with a focus on long-term value creation balance sheet flexibility and shareholder alignment.

Speaker #3: Overall, these steps position Form to build a durable, income-generating platform that we can expand across asset classes and distribution channels as we continue to grow.

Speaker #3: The actions we have taken since our last call. Aggressive share repurchases. A formal strategic review. Developing institutional co-investment partnerships. And continued expansion into high-yielding asset verticals reflect both our conviction in this platform and our commitment to ensuring shareholders benefit from the value we are building.

McAndrew Rudisill: The actions we have taken since our last call, aggressive share repurchases, a formal strategic review, developing institutional co-investment partnerships, and continued expansion into high-yielding asset verticals reflect both our conviction in this platform and our commitment to ensuring shareholders benefit from the value we are building. As capital markets continue to evolve, we believe platforms with the ability to uniquely identify, originate, and scale high quality hard assets will emerge as leaders. We believe Forum is well-positioned to be among them. With that, I'll turn the call over to John T. Saunders.

Speaker #3: As capital markets continue to evolve, we believe platforms with the ability to uniquely identify, originate, and scale high-quality hard assets will emerge as leaders.

Speaker #3: We believe Form is well positioned to be among them. With that, I'll turn the call over to John Saunders.

Speaker #4: Thank you, McAndrew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before I walk through the quarter, I want to briefly note how our financial framework is evolving as the platform matures.

John T. Saunders: Thank you, McAndrew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before I walk through the quarter, I want to briefly note how our financial framework is evolving as the platform matures. As McAndrew described, we have been active on multiple fronts since our last call, deploying capital into income-producing real-world assets, entering new high-yield verticals, including AI infrastructure financing, executing a significant share repurchase program, and initiating a formal strategic review process. Each of these reflects deliberate capital allocation decisions made with a view towards growing the underlying value of the platform. The metrics we continue to focus on are assets under management, yield generated from the asset base, origination and structuring activity, and token issuance volume, and over time, the fee revenue associated with managing and distributing those assets at scale.

John Saunders: Thank you, McAndrew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before I walk through the quarter, I want to briefly note how our financial framework is evolving as the platform matures. As McAndrew described, we have been active on multiple fronts since our last call, deploying capital into income-producing real-world assets, entering new high-yield verticals, including AI infrastructure financing, executing a significant share repurchase program, and initiating a formal strategic review process. Each of these reflects deliberate capital allocation decisions made with a view towards growing the underlying value of the platform. The metrics we continue to focus on are assets under management, yield generated from the asset base, origination and structuring activity, and token issuance volume, and over time, the fee revenue associated with managing and distributing those assets at scale.

Speaker #4: As McAndrew described, we have been active on multiple fronts since our last call, deploying capital into income-producing real-world assets, entering new high-yield verticals including AI infrastructure financing, executing a significant share repurchase program, and initiating a formal strategic review process.

Speaker #4: Each of these reflects deliberate capital allocation decisions made with a view towards growing the underlying value of the platform. The metrics we continue to focus on are assets under management, yield generated from the asset base, origination and structuring activity, and token issuance volume and over time the fee revenue associated with managing and distributing those assets at scale.

Speaker #4: Turning to the first quarter, Form generated revenue of approximately $2.9 million compared with $2.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2025. Revenue in the quarter was driven primarily by staking revenue of $1.8 million and aircraft engine revenue of $1.1 million.

John T. Saunders: Turning to Q1, Forum generated revenue of approximately $2.9 million, compared with $2.4 million in Q4 2025. Revenue in the quarter was driven primarily by staking revenue of $1.8 million and aircraft engine revenue of $1.1 million. Results for the quarter reflect the timing of capital deployment and when assets begin contributing yield. As we noted last quarter, our revenue mix is continuing to shift away from legacy digital asset activity and increasingly towards income generated from real-world asset portfolios, financing activities, and over time, origination, structuring, and asset management fees. Selling, general, and administrative expenses were approximately $7.5 million in Q1. We continue to invest in the infrastructure, systems, and partnerships required to support platform growth while maintaining a disciplined approach to operating expenses.

John Saunders: Turning to Q1, Forum generated revenue of approximately $2.9 million, compared with $2.4 million in Q4 2025. Revenue in the quarter was driven primarily by staking revenue of $1.8 million and aircraft engine revenue of $1.1 million. Results for the quarter reflect the timing of capital deployment and when assets begin contributing yield. As we noted last quarter, our revenue mix is continuing to shift away from legacy digital asset activity and increasingly towards income generated from real-world asset portfolios, financing activities, and over time, origination, structuring, and asset management fees. Selling, general, and administrative expenses were approximately $7.5 million in Q1. We continue to invest in the infrastructure, systems, and partnerships required to support platform growth while maintaining a disciplined approach to operating expenses.

Speaker #4: Results for the quarter reflect the timing of capital deployment and when assets begin contributing yield. As we noted last quarter, our revenue mix is continuing to shift away from legacy digital asset activity and increasingly towards income-generated from real-world asset portfolios financing activities and over time origination, structuring, and asset management fees.

Speaker #4: Selling general administrative expenses were approximately $7.5 million in the first quarter. We continue to invest in the infrastructure, systems, and partnerships required to support platform growth while maintaining a disciplined approach to operating expenses.

Speaker #4: Net loss for the quarter totaled approximately $77.5 million which was primarily attributable to realized losses on disposition of digital assets. Adjusted EBITDA loss was $76 million as a result in price changes from digital assets.

John T. Saunders: Net loss for the quarter totaled approximately $77.5 million, which was primarily attributable to realized losses on disposition of digital assets. Adjusted EBITDA loss was $76 million as a result in price changes from digital assets. We anticipate this is the last quarter we will experience large mark-to-market adjustments associated with digital assets. Turning to the balance sheet, during the quarter and subsequent period, we continued to allocate capital toward platform growth while also executing the share repurchase program McAndrew described, both reflecting our disciplined approach to deploying capital where we see the greatest value and addressing the gap between our market value and our view of intrinsic value. Given the significant share repurchases that have occurred since quarter end, I want to walk through where we stand as of 30 April 2026.

John Saunders: Net loss for the quarter totaled approximately $77.5 million, which was primarily attributable to realized losses on disposition of digital assets. Adjusted EBITDA loss was $76 million as a result in price changes from digital assets. We anticipate this is the last quarter we will experience large mark-to-market adjustments associated with digital assets. Turning to the balance sheet, during the quarter and subsequent period, we continued to allocate capital toward platform growth while also executing the share repurchase program McAndrew described, both reflecting our disciplined approach to deploying capital where we see the greatest value and addressing the gap between our market value and our view of intrinsic value. Given the significant share repurchases that have occurred since quarter end, I want to walk through where we stand as of 30 April 2026.

Speaker #4: We anticipate this is the last quarter we will experience large mark-to-market adjustments associated with digital assets. Turning to the balance sheet, during the quarter and subsequent period, we continue to allocate capital toward platform growth while also executing the share repurchase program McAndrew described.

Speaker #4: Both reflecting our disciplined approach to deploying capital where we see the greatest value and addressing the gap between our market value and our view of intrinsic value.

Speaker #4: Given the significant share repurchases that have occurred since quarter end, I want to walk through where we stand as of April 30, 2026. We believe this provides the most current and relevant picture of the platform's asset base.

John T. Saunders: We believe this provides the most current and relevant picture of the platform's asset base. As of 30 April, Forum reported total assets of approximately $170.5 million, exclusive of prepaid assets, accrued expenses, and accounts payable. Cash and cash equivalents totaled approximately $62.5 million. The asset base consisted of the following. We held $17.6 million in aircraft engine assets, net of depreciation, which continue to generate contracted lease income from major commercial carriers. We held approximately $1.8 million in auto loans and warehouse facilities, $14.8 million in manufactured home loans, and approximately $28 million in ETH collateral, offset by our collateralized loan of approximately $26 million. We also held equity positions in our strategic partners, Satschel Inc, Karus, and Zippy, valued at $13.7 million, $9.8 million, and $22.3 million respectively.

John Saunders: We believe this provides the most current and relevant picture of the platform's asset base. As of 30 April, Forum reported total assets of approximately $170.5 million, exclusive of prepaid assets, accrued expenses, and accounts payable. Cash and cash equivalents totaled approximately $62.5 million. The asset base consisted of the following. We held $17.6 million in aircraft engine assets, net of depreciation, which continue to generate contracted lease income from major commercial carriers. We held approximately $1.8 million in auto loans and warehouse facilities, $14.8 million in manufactured home loans, and approximately $28 million in ETH collateral, offset by our collateralized loan of approximately $26 million. We also held equity positions in our strategic partners, Satschel Inc, Karus, and Zippy, valued at $13.7 million, $9.8 million, and $22.3 million respectively.

Speaker #4: As of April 30th, Form reported total assets of approximately $170.5 million, exclusive of prepaid assets, accrued expenses, and accounts payable. Cash and cash equivalents totaled approximately $62.5 million.

Speaker #4: The asset base consisted of the following: we held $17.6 million in aircraft engine assets net of depreciation which continued to generate contracted lease income from major commercial carriers.

Speaker #4: We held approximately $1.8 million in auto loans and warehouse facilities. $14.8 million in manufactured home loans and approximately $28 million in ETH collateral offset by our collateralized loan of approximately $26 million.

Speaker #4: We also held equity positions in our strategic partners Satchel, Inc., Caris, and Zippy valued at $13.7 million. $9.8 million and $22.3 million respectively. In aggregate, these assets support a net asset value of approximately $144.5 million or approximately $9.93 per share based on approximately $14.5 million shares outstanding as of April 30, 2026.

John T. Saunders: In aggregate, these assets support a net asset value of approximately $144.5 million, or approximately $9.93 per share based on approximately 14.5 million shares outstanding as of 30 April 2026. We view NAV per share as a useful reference point in evaluating the underlying value of the business, particularly given the strength and quality of the asset base we continue to build. Looking ahead, our capital allocation priorities remain focused on three areas. Deploying capital into high quality, cash-generating real-world assets, expanding origination and distribution capabilities across the platform, and preserving balance sheet flexibility as we scale. With respect to guidance, we are adjusting our expectations for full year 2026 to reflect the capital allocated to share repurchases subsequent to our last call.

John Saunders: In aggregate, these assets support a net asset value of approximately $144.5 million, or approximately $9.93 per share based on approximately 14.5 million shares outstanding as of 30 April 2026. We view NAV per share as a useful reference point in evaluating the underlying value of the business, particularly given the strength and quality of the asset base we continue to build. Looking ahead, our capital allocation priorities remain focused on three areas. Deploying capital into high quality, cash-generating real-world assets, expanding origination and distribution capabilities across the platform, and preserving balance sheet flexibility as we scale. With respect to guidance, we are adjusting our expectations for full year 2026 to reflect the capital allocated to share repurchases subsequent to our last call.

Speaker #4: We view NAV per share as a useful reference point in evaluating the underlying value of the business, particularly given the strength and quality of the asset base we continue to build.

Speaker #4: Looking ahead, our capital allocation priorities remain focused on three areas: deploying capital into high-quality cash-generating real-world assets, expanding origination and distribution capabilities across the platform, and preserving balance sheet flexibility as we scale.

Speaker #4: With respect to guidance, we are adjusting our expectations for full year 2026 to reflect the capital allocated to share repurchases subsequent to our last call.

Speaker #4: We now expect to exit 2026 with between $100 million and $175 million in assets under management across our tokenized and pre-tokenization credit portfolios compared with our prior expectation of $125 million to $200 million.

John T. Saunders: We now expect to exit 2026 with between $100 to 175 million in assets under management across our tokenized and pre-tokenization credit portfolios, compared with our prior expectation of $125 to 200 million. We also now expect full year 2026 revenue to be in the range of $18 to 22 million, compared with our prior expectation of $18 to 26 million. The updated range reflects a slower pace of near-term deployment resulting from capital use for share repurchases while still capturing yield income from the existing asset base, financing activities, and early-stage origination and structuring economics. We believe the business is building momentum across the drivers that matter most. Yield generation today, growing origination and structuring economics as the platform scales, and recurring asset management and distribution economics over time.

John Saunders: We now expect to exit 2026 with between $100 to 175 million in assets under management across our tokenized and pre-tokenization credit portfolios, compared with our prior expectation of $125 to 200 million. We also now expect full year 2026 revenue to be in the range of $18 to 22 million, compared with our prior expectation of $18 to 26 million. The updated range reflects a slower pace of near-term deployment resulting from capital use for share repurchases while still capturing yield income from the existing asset base, financing activities, and early-stage origination and structuring economics. We believe the business is building momentum across the drivers that matter most. Yield generation today, growing origination and structuring economics as the platform scales, and recurring asset management and distribution economics over time.

Speaker #4: We also now expect full year 2026 revenue to be in the range of $18 to $22 million compared with our prior expectation of $18 million to $26 million.

Speaker #4: The updated range reflects a slower pace of near-term deployment resulting from capital used for share repurchases, while still capturing yield income from the existing asset base, financing activities, and early-stage origination and structuring economics.

Speaker #4: We believe the business is building momentum across the drivers that matter most: yield generation today, growing origination and structuring economics as the platform scales, and recurring asset management and distribution economics over time.

Speaker #4: The actions we took this quarter expanding the asset base repurchasing shares and developing new institutional co-investment opportunities reflect our conviction in the platform and our focus on compounding its underlying value.

John T. Saunders: The actions we took this quarter, expanding the asset base, repurchasing shares, and developing new institutional co-investment opportunities reflect our conviction in the platform and our focus on compounding its underlying value. We look forward to providing further updates as the quarter progresses. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions.

John Saunders: The actions we took this quarter, expanding the asset base, repurchasing shares, and developing new institutional co-investment opportunities reflect our conviction in the platform and our focus on compounding its underlying value. We look forward to providing further updates as the quarter progresses. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions.

Speaker #4: We look forward to providing further updates as the quarter progresses. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for questions.

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Speaker #3: Thanks so much for taking my question. So now that you've had tokens live, how are you seeing call it feedback from your products and as you're looking through call it the next two years, which segments would you expect to see the most material growth?

Brian Dobson: Thanks so much for taking my question. Now that you've had tokens live, how are you seeing, call it, feedback from your products? As you're looking through, call it, the next 2 years, which segments would you expect to see the most material growth?

Brian Dobson: Thanks so much for taking my question. Now that you've had tokens live, how are you seeing, call it, feedback from your products? As you're looking through, call it, the next two years, which segments would you expect to see the most material growth?

Speaker #4: Hey, Brian. This is McAndrew. Thank you for your question. I think that tokens based on feedback that we've gotten from communicating with a lot of institutional investors are going to receive the most focus primarily from the retail side at this point.

McAndrew Rudisill: Hey, Brian, this is McAndrew Rudisill. Thank you for your question. I think that tokens, based on feedback that we've gotten from communicating with a lot of institutional investors, are going to receive the most focus primarily from the retail side at this point. From our conversations with institutions, they're a lot more interested in investing directly via sort of traditional structures in the assets that we're creating via like a large scale structured product format, which ultimately could be tokenized. I think where a lot of real-world asset tokenization is leading is being able to fractionalize these assets kind of into smaller increments that allow retail investors to access them. That is why we commented on Liquidity.io and the platform build that they're undergoing right now.

Speaker #4: From our conversations with institutions, there are a lot more interested in investing directly via sort of traditional structures in the assets that we're creating via a large-scale structured product format, which ultimately could be tokenized.

Speaker #4: But I think where a lot of real-world asset tokenization is leading is being able to fractionalize these assets kind of into smaller increments that allow retail investors to access them.

Speaker #4: And that is why we commented on liquidity.io and the platform build that they're undergoing right now. And to increase the aperture of that distribution, having stocks bonds options all in one place alongside tokens should create a much larger marketplace for individual investors to come buy these tokens where we've seen the most interest on the tokenization side starting number one aircraft engines because there's going to be a pretty nice tax benefit to investing in those directly that we figured out.

McAndrew Rudisill: To increase the aperture of that distribution, having stocks, bonds, options all in one place alongside tokens should create a much larger marketplace for individual investors to come buy these tokens. Where we've seen the most interest on the tokenization side, it's starting number 1, aircraft engines, because there's gonna be a pretty nice tax benefit to investing in those directly, that we figured out. Number 2, the AI infrastructure finance. We've seen a lot of institutional interest in investing directly in that, and I think that will translate into token interest at the retail level.

McAndrew Rudisill: To increase the aperture of that distribution, having stocks, bonds, options all in one place alongside tokens should create a much larger marketplace for individual investors to come buy these tokens. Where we've seen the most interest on the tokenization side, it's starting number 1, aircraft engines, because there's gonna be a pretty nice tax benefit to investing in those directly, that we figured out. Number two, the AI infrastructure finance. We've seen a lot of institutional interest in investing directly in that, and I think that will translate into token interest at the retail level.

Speaker #4: Number two, the AI infrastructure finance. We've seen a lot of institutional interest in investing directly in that. And I think that will translate into token interest at the retail level.

McAndrew Rudisill: I'd say mortgages and auto loans, I would say equal interest. Very durable yields and, kind of interestingly, short duration on the auto loan warehouse product, which we think ultimately can slot into both stablecoin and money market products because of the really low capital duration and high yield that it generates. That's a longer answer to your question, but I think you kinda have to bifurcate the market between institutional and retail from the work that we've done.

Speaker #4: I’d say mortgages and auto loans. I would say equal interest, very durable yields, and, kind of interestingly, short duration on the auto loan warehouse product, which we think ultimately can slot into both stablecoin and money market products because of the really low capital duration and high yield that it generates.

Speaker #4: So that's a longer answer to your question, but I think you kind of have to bifurcate the market between institutional and retail from the work that we've done.

Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks. That's good color. I guess and then as a follow-up to tokenization, right, how do you think about the trade-off between continuing to make buybacks below NAV versus deploying that capital into something that can generate a yield?

Brian Dobson: Yeah, thanks. That's good color. As a follow-up to tokenization, right? How do you think about the trade-off between, you know, continuing to make buybacks below NAV versus deploying that capital into something that can generate a yield? I guess, how are you approaching that question?

Speaker #3: I guess how are you approaching that question?

Speaker #4: I mean, we look at it from a mathematical perspective every day and to is it better to buy back shares or deploy capital into generating revenue?

John T. Saunders: I mean, we look at it from a mathematical perspective every day into, you know, is it better to buy back shares or deploy capital into generating revenue? I think we have to strike the right balance between both. I mean, we just gave you this new revised revenue guidance because of the share buybacks, and there's a direct correlation between the more shares we buy back, the less revenue that we generate.

McAndrew Rudisill: I mean, we look at it from a mathematical perspective every day into, you know, is it better to buy back shares or deploy capital into generating revenue? I think we have to strike the right balance between both. I mean, we just gave you this new revised revenue guidance because of the share buybacks, and there's a direct correlation between the more shares we buy back, the less revenue that we generate.

Speaker #4: And I think we have to strike the right balance. But between both, I mean, we just gave you this new revised revenue guidance because of the share buybacks.

Speaker #4: And there's a direct correlation between the more shares we buy back, the less revenue that we generate. So we just have to take a balanced approach to it.

McAndrew Rudisill: We just have to take a balanced approach to it. As I'll reiterate again, the buyback remains open.

Speaker #4: And, as I'll reiterate again, the buyback remains open.

Speaker #3: Yeah, very good. And then just one last one, if I may. Do you think you could walk us through your thought process on the credit underwriting for the GPU bridge and what gives you confidence in the takeout commitment?

Brian Dobson: Yeah, very good. Just one last one, if I may. Do you think you could walk us through your thought process on the credit underwriting for the GPU bridge and what gives you confidence in the takeout commitment?

Speaker #4: Sure. Number one, most of the counterparties we are working with are very well capitalized, whether from a private equity or venture capital perspective, or they are publicly traded entities that are pretty well capitalized in their own right.

McAndrew Rudisill: Sure. Number one, most of the counterparties we are working with are very well-capitalized, whether from a private equity or venture capital perspective, or they are publicly traded entities that are pretty well capitalized in their own right. Like, step number one, we have to execute credit underwriting on the counterparty that we're working with on the data center build-out. Two, most of them have really large offtake contracts with hyperscalers on the other side to provide compute. Those contracts are included in the collateral package for the GPUs that we're providing.

Speaker #4: So that step number one, we have to execute credit underwriting on the counterparty that we're working with on the data center build-out. Two, most of them have really large offtake contracts with hyperscalers on the other side.

Speaker #4: To provide compute. And those contracts are included in the collateral package for the GPUs that we're providing. And then number three, the way we've set up the takeout on the first couple is going to be in partnership with USDAI so that immediately after the bridge is complete, the long-term financing for the facility is taken out by a long-term loan that's put up by USDAI's facility.

McAndrew Rudisill: Number three, the way we've set up the takeout on the first couple is gonna be in partnership with USD.AI so that immediately after the bridge is complete, the long-term financing for the facility is taken out by a long-term loan that's put up by USD.AI's facility. I think you're starting to see other players step into the marketplace for the long-term financing as well. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens just from a yield perspective on long-term versus short-term financing in GPU finance. The space we're playing is from point of purchase to completion of data center installation, and that's where there's a gap in the financing market right now.

Speaker #4: And I think you're starting to see other players step into the marketplace for the long-term financing as well. And it's going to be interesting to see what happens just from a yield perspective on long-term versus short-term financing in GPU finance, because the space we're playing is from point of purchase to completion of data center installation.

Speaker #4: And that's where there's a gap in the financing market right now.

Speaker #3: Thanks very much.

Brian Dobson: Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: Your next question will come from Brendan McCarthy with Sidoti. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Operator: Your next question will come from Brendan McCarthy with Sidoti. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Speaker #3: Great. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions here. Again, do you touched on the upgrade that the liquidity.io platform is currently undergoing? Can you provide additional color on those upgrades and maybe how it will impact your business?

Brendan McCarthy: Great. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions here. Megan, you touched on the upgrade that the Liquidity.io platform is currently undergoing. Can you provide additional color on those upgrades and maybe how it will impact your business going forward?

Speaker #3: Going forward?

Speaker #4: Of course. Today have partnered with a new algorithmic trading system that's backed by some of the largest market makers in the United States. It's also backed by some very large VC firms that has an online marketplace for equities, options, and fixed income that tie into all the exchanges in the US and many exchanges internationally.

McAndrew Rudisill: Yeah, of course. They have partnered with a new algorithmic trading system that's backed by some of the largest market makers in the United States. It's also backed by some very large VC firms that has an online marketplace for equities, options, and fixed income that tie into all the exchanges in the US and many exchanges internationally. By doing this, it creates a hyper liquid equity option and bond marketplace that people can trade all those securities on while simultaneously allowing co-listing of tokenized products right alongside the stocks. They've got a whole team of programmers that they've brought in, actually from one of the US exchanges, and they have been working to integrate that exchange platform directly into Liquidity.

Speaker #4: And then by doing this, it creates a hyperliquid equity option and bond marketplace that people can trade all those securities on while simultaneously allowing co-listing of tokenized products right alongside the stocks.

Speaker #4: And they've got a whole team of programs that they've brought in actually from one of the US exchanges and they have been working to integrate that exchange platform directly into liquidity.

Speaker #4: And the ultimate user interface on it, I think, is going to look a lot like what you see with some of the largest online brokerages today.

McAndrew Rudisill: The ultimate user interface on it, I think, is gonna look a lot like what you see with some of the largest, like, online brokerages today. We're simultaneously working with those market makers to then drive traffic to the site once we take it live.

Speaker #4: And we're simultaneously working with those market makers to then drive traffic to the site once we take it live.

Speaker #3: That makes sense. I appreciate the color there. How do you kind of expect the impact to be reflected in the secondary market liquidity? Do you see that as maybe a gradual increase over time, or do you see this upgrade as driving more substantial secondary market trading in the tokens?

Brendan McCarthy: That makes sense. I appreciate the color there. How do you kind of expect the impact to be reflected in the secondary market liquidity? Do you see that as, you know, maybe a gradual, you know, increase over time, or do you see this upgrade as, you know, driving more substantial, you know, secondary market trading in the tokens? I guess I'm just curious as to, you know, maybe how this will impact, you know, the liquidity in the tokens.

Speaker #3: I guess I'm just curious as to maybe how this will impact the liquidity in the tokens.

Speaker #4: Yeah, it's a great question. And I think we have to look at history as a guide on online exchanges as to how their user base has grown.

McAndrew Rudisill: Yeah. It's a great question. I think we have to look at history as a guide on online exchanges as to how their user bases grew. I would expect it to be gradual at first. I mean, I think we have to break it into user growth, absolute user growth, and then token growth. I think user growth is a function of advertising and marketing, which is gonna be on Liquidity's shoulders. I do think you'll see a gradual growth in users, and then it should start to quickly inflect as it compounds, which you've seen with a lot of the other online marketplaces. As that user growth starts to accelerate, having the tokens front and center, right next to stocks, we think it'll be a slow ramp.

Speaker #4: And I would expect it to be gradual at first. I mean, I think we have to break it into user growth, absolute user growth, and then token growth.

Speaker #4: And so I think user growth is a function of advertising and marketing, which is going to be on liquidity's shoulders. And then I do think you'll see a gradual growth in users, and then it should start to quickly inflect as it compounds, which you've seen with a lot of the other online marketplaces.

Speaker #4: And then as that user growth starts to accelerate, having the tokens front and center right next to stocks we think it'll be a slow ramp.

Speaker #4: And then at some point, there should be a breakthrough in people buying tokens in the same way that they buy stocks or they buy bonds.

McAndrew Rudisill: At some point, there should be a breakthrough in people buying tokens in the same way that they buy stocks or they buy bonds. I just think the reality is, in the token marketplace today in the United States, there are really not a lot of tokens that are available for people to buy that are outside of effectively money market/treasury bill-oriented tokens, and they have to be bought in really large increments, oftentimes in multi-million dollar increments. The marketplace has just not yet developed for growth equity tokens or capital-oriented tokens. I think we're right at the precipice right now where there's a lot of different token exchanges that are trying to increase their product load.

Speaker #4: I just think the reality is in the token marketplace today in the United States, there are really not a lot of tokens that are available for people to buy that are outside of effectively money markets/treasury bill-oriented tokens, and they have to be bought in really large increments.

Speaker #4: Oftentimes in multimillion-dollar increments. And the marketplace has just not yet developed for growth equity tokens or capital-oriented tokens. And I think it's we're right at the precipice right now where there's a lot of different token exchanges that are trying to increase their product load.

Speaker #4: And one of the things that we're working on with liquidity is to cross-list across those other token exchanges, so that you create more liquidity in the marketplace, the same way that the equity marketplace has built up liquidity by cross-listing assets across multiple regional exchanges.

McAndrew Rudisill: One of the things that we're working on with Liquidity is to cross-list across those other token exchanges so that you create more liquidity in the marketplace, the same way that the equity marketplace has built up liquidity by cross-listing assets across multiple regional exchanges. I think that's the way you get the most eyeballs on it. There's gonna have to be a lot of kind of participation agreements with the other token exchanges, which we're actively working on, where we're literally creating the marketplace for these real-world asset tokens.

Speaker #4: And I think that's the way you get the most eyeballs on it. So there's going to have to be a lot of kind of participation agreements.

Speaker #4: With the other token exchanges, which we're actively working on, we're literally creating the marketplace for these real-world asset tokens.

Brendan McCarthy: Understood. Really appreciate the detail there. I think it'll be interesting to see how that develops over time. Switching gears to the institutional side, you mentioned you're working on, you know, co-investment channels with larger institutions. Can you provide any detail on the timing of a potential rollout there?

Speaker #3: Understood. Really appreciate the detail there. I think it'll be interesting to see how that develops over time. And then, switching gears to the institutional side, you mentioned you're working on co-investment channels with larger institutions.

Speaker #3: Can you provide any detail on the color or, I’m sorry, on the timing of a potential rollout there?

Speaker #4: Yeah, well, I think what we need to do is deploy the balance sheet capital in conjunction with some of these institutional partners, to demonstrate the scalability.

McAndrew Rudisill: Well, I think we need to do is deploy the balance sheet capital in conjunction with some of these institutional partners to demonstrate the scalability. Once we do that, we're going to be able to talk about it. To give you a little more color, we're talking to people both on, you know, the bank side of the equation with US investment banks as well as US asset managers that can deploy large amounts of capital, whether it be out of their funds balance sheets, off their own balance sheets, or through their retail distribution networks. These products that are multi-billion dollar TAM products that we've created can just be rapidly scaled up. I think we've created the structure and the wrapper. Now we're executing on the distribution.

Speaker #4: And then once we do that, we're going to be able to talk about it. But to give you a little more color, we're talking to people both on the bank side of the equation with US investment banks as well as US asset managers that can deploy large amounts of capital whether it be out of their funds balance sheets, off their own balance sheets, or through their retail distribution networks so that these products that are multibillion-dollar TAM products that we've created can just be rapidly scaled up.

Speaker #4: So I think we've created the structure and the wrapper. Now we're executing on the distribution. And I'd say that's coming in the near term.

McAndrew Rudisill: I'd say that's coming in the near term.

Brendan McCarthy: Understood. Which is a more attractive, you know, distribution channel in your view? Is it, is it more retail or institutional over time?

Speaker #3: Understood. And which is the more attractive distribution channel in your view? Is it more retail or institutional over time?

McAndrew Rudisill: Well, high net worth retail is equivalently attractive to co-investment with institutional investors from a just pure revenue perspective. Retail tokenization is a higher fee structure than the institutional structure, so you can't put as much scale into it today. Does that make sense?

Speaker #4: Well, high net worth retail is equivalently attractive to co-investment with institutional investors from a just pure revenue perspective. Retail tokenization is even a higher fee structure than the institutional structure since you can't put as much scale into it.

Speaker #4: Today. Does that make sense?

Speaker #3: Got it. That makes sense. That makes sense. Last question for me, just while the distribution is in development. Well, I guess, let me back up.

Brendan McCarthy: Got it.

McAndrew Rudisill: Yeah.

Brendan McCarthy: That makes sense. That makes sense. Last question from me, just, you know, while the distribution is in development. Well, I guess let me back up. How much is left on the buyback authorization at this point?

Speaker #3: How much is left on the buyback authorization at this point?

Speaker #4: I believe the original buyback authorization was $200 million. So, I mean, we're working off that original authorization. We in theory could use all the capital on the balance sheet to buy back stock.

McAndrew Rudisill: I believe the original buyback authorization was $200 million. I mean, we're working off that original authorization. We in theory, could use all the capital on the balance sheet to buy back stock.

Speaker #3: Yeah. And is it fair to assume that you'll just continue to buy back stock? I mean, 50% discount to NAV. Fair to assume you'll just buy back stock in the near term as these distribution channels ultimately develop?

Brendan McCarthy: Yeah. Is it fair to assume that you'll just continue to buy back stock? I mean, 50% discount to NAV. Fair to assume you'll just buy back stock in the near term as these distribution channels, you know, ultimately develop?

Speaker #4: Yeah, I mean, we're going to stay active on the buyback. That's what I've said. I mean, we just have to balance revenue generation versus buyback.

McAndrew Rudisill: Yeah. I mean, we're gonna stay active on the buyback. That's what I've said. I mean, we just have to balance, you know, revenue generation versus buyback. They, they go hand in hand, and we're gonna have to be running both in parallel.

Speaker #4: They go hand in hand. And we're going to have to be running both in parallel.

Speaker #3: That makes sense. I appreciate your time. That's all from me. Thanks.

Brendan McCarthy: That makes sense. I appreciate your time. That's all from me. Thanks.

Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks.

McAndrew Rudisill: Okay, thanks.

Speaker #1: Your next question will come from Mark Palmer with Benchmark StoneX. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Operator: Your next question will come from Mark Palmer with The Benchmark Company.

Speaker #5: Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. A little bit of a bigger picture question—the company has been leaning into the AI infrastructure financing space of late.

Mark Palmer: Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. A little bit of a bigger picture question. You know, the company has been, you know, leaning into the AI infrastructure financing space of late. You know, at the same time, you know, you have the other verticals in aircraft, auto, manufactured housing. You know, if we were to look out into, you know, end of 2026 into 2027, you know, how should investors think about what the company's mix will look like in terms of activity, revenue, EBITDA contribution, and the like? You know, how do you see all of those proportions working out over time? Thank you.

Speaker #5: At the same time, you have the other verticals in aircraft, auto manufacturing, housing. If we were to look out into the end of 2026, into 2027, how should investors think about what the company's mix will look like in terms of activity, revenue, EBITDA contribution, and the like?

Speaker #5: How do you see all of those proportions working out over time? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Good question, Mark. Right now, you can see we're equally balanced between the modular mortgages and the aircraft assets. I think you'll see our investment in AI infrastructure rapidly scale up in the next weeks, if not months.

McAndrew Rudisill: Good question, Mark. Right now, you can see we're equally balanced between the manufactured home mortgages and the aircraft assets. I think you'll see our investment in AI infrastructure rapidly scale up in the next weeks, if not months. The opportunity is gargantuan. The demand pipeline that we're looking at is really big, and I think the absolute yield opportunity is high. We're working with the data centers, the NeoClouds, and we're working with all the new edge computing companies on what their data centers are gonna look like, and that opportunity set is large. I think that's gonna become a huge percentage of the balance sheet.

Speaker #4: The opportunity is gargantuan. The demand pipeline that we're looking at is really big, and I think your absolute yield opportunity is high. So we're working with the data centers, NeoClouds, and we're working with all the new edge compute companies on what their data centers are going to look like.

Speaker #4: And that opportunity set is large. So I think that's going to become a huge percentage of the balance sheet. And then we mentioned earlier, the aircraft engine opportunity is quite large because of the relationships we now have with two of the largest commercial airlines in the United States.

McAndrew Rudisill: Then we mentioned earlier, the aircraft engine opportunity is quite large because of the relationships we now have with two of the largest commercial airlines in the United States. We have master services agreements with them. They have a lot more appetite to continue leasing with us. We could scale that up pretty quickly too. I think those two places are gonna be a focus for us now to ramp our activity up.

Speaker #4: And we have master services agreements with them. They have a lot more appetite to continue leasing with us, and so we could scale that up pretty quickly, too.

Speaker #4: So, I think those two places are going to be a focus for us now, to ramp our activity up.

Speaker #5: Thank you. And just one quick question with regard to the strategic review. Anything that you can share with us with regard to the timing when that could proceed through and when it might conclude?

Mark Palmer: Thank you. Just one quick question with regard to the strategic review. Anything that you can share with us with regard to the timing, you know, when that could proceed through and when it might conclude? Thank you.

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yes. All right. Good question. The special committee is meeting on a regular basis. Being advised by ClearStreet Investment Bank. There's been a lot of interesting opportunities presented.

McAndrew Rudisill: Yes. All right. Good question. The special committee is meeting on a regular basis, being advised by Clear Street Investment Bank. There's been a lot of interesting opportunities presented. They're being actively evaluated. New opportunities keep arising from the work we're doing and the work that Clear Street is doing. I think that we, just to be prudent, need to give it at a minimum till the end of the year. I think the process will probably conclude before that, but that's the focus of the committee, is to evaluate all the opportunities and give everything sort of a fair look.

Speaker #4: They're being actively evaluated. New opportunities keep arising. From the work we're doing and the work that ClearStreet is doing, I think that we just to be prudent, need to give it at a minimum until the end of the year.

Speaker #4: And I think the process will probably conclude for that. But that's the focus of the committee is to evaluate all the opportunities and give everything sort of a fair look.

Speaker #5: Very good. Thank you.

Mark Palmer: Very good. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Yep.

McAndrew Rudisill: Yep.

Speaker #1: There are no more questions at this time. I now like to turn the call over to John Kristoff for closing remarks.

Operator: There are no more questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call over to John Christoph for closing remarks.

Speaker #5: Yes. Thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. And as always, if you have follow-up questions, please feel free to reach out to me directly.

John Kristoff: Yes, thank you everyone for joining us this morning. As always, if you have follow-up questions, please feel free to reach out to me directly. Thanks again.