Q1 2026 Lument Finance Trust Inc Earnings Call

May 15, 2026

Andrew Tsang: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining our call to discuss Lument Finance Trust Q1 2026 financial results. With me on the call today are James Flynn, our CEO, James Briggs, our CFO, Greg Calvert, our President, and Zachary Halpern, our Portfolio Manager. This morning, we issued a press release to provide details on our recent financial results. We also provided a supplemental earnings presentation, which can be found on our website. We intend to file our Form 10-Q with the SEC this afternoon after market close. Before handing the call over to James Flynn, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements made during the course of this call are not based on historical information and may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.

Speaker #2: Thank you for joining our call to discuss Lument Finance Trust's first quarter 2026 financial results. With me on the call today are Jim Flynn, our CEO; Jim Briggs, our CFO; Greg Calvert, our President; and Zach Halpern, our Portfolio Manager.

Speaker #2: This morning, we issued a press release to provide details on our recent financial results. We also provided a supplemental earnings presentation, which can be found on our website.

Speaker #2: We intend to file our 10-Q with the SEC this afternoon after market close. Before handing the call over to Jim Flynn, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements made during the course of this call are not based on historical information and may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.

Speaker #2: Such forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statement.

Andrew Tsang: Such forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statement. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in the company's reports filed with the SEC, in particular, the Risk Factors sections of our Form 10-K and Form 10-Qs. It is not possible to predict or identify all such risks, and listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. The company also undertakes no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements. Certain non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. A presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.

Speaker #2: These risks and uncertainties are discussed in the company's reports filed with the SEC, and in particular, the risk factors sections of our Form 10-K and Form 10-Qs.

Speaker #2: It is not possible to predict or identify all such risks unless listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. The company also undertakes no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: Further, certain non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. Our presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.

Speaker #2: Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP can be accessed through our filings with the SEC.

Andrew Tsang: Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP can be accessed through our filings with the SEC. For Q1 2026, we reported a GAAP net loss of $0.02 and Distributable Earnings of $0.02 per share of common stock. In March, we declared quarterly dividend of $0.04 per common share with respect to Q1, in line with the prior quarterly dividend. I will now turn the call over to Jim Flynn. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: For the first quarter of 2026, we reported a GAAP net loss of $0.02 and shareholder earnings of $0.02 per share of common stock. In March, we declared a quarterly dividend of $0.04 per common share with respect to the first quarter.

Speaker #2: In line with the prior quarterly dividend, I would now turn the call over to Jim Flynn. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Andrew. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the Lument Finance Trust earnings call for the first quarter of 2026. We appreciate everyone joining us today.

James Flynn: Thank you, Andrew. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the Lument Finance Trust earnings call for Q1 of 2026. We appreciate everyone joining us today. Looking at the market, economic conditions in the US continuing to remain fundamentally stable, although uncertainty continues to outweigh momentum. While the Fed Reserve has shifted toward a more accommodative stance, the pace and extent of any future rate cuts remain data dependent, including inflation, labor, market conditions, and broader financial stability. The geopolitical uncertainty continues to weigh on investment environment, reinforcing a cautious approach to capital allocation. Within multifamily, operating fundamentals are gradually stabilizing as the sectors move through the later stages of an elevated supply cycle. Construction starts have declined sharply, setting the stage for a meaningful reduction in new supply through 2026 and 2027. Rent growth remains modest at the national level, but improving performance in supply-constrained markets.

Speaker #3: Looking at the market, economic conditions in the U.S. continue to remain fundamentally stable, although uncertainty continues to outweigh momentum. While the Federal Reserve has shifted toward a more accommodative stance, the pace and extent of any future rate cuts remain data-dependent.

Speaker #3: Including inflation, labor, market conditions, and broader financial stability, the geopolitical uncertainty continues to weigh on the investment environment, reinforcing a cautious approach to capital allocation.

Speaker #3: Within multifamily, operating fundamentals are gradually stabilizing as the sectors move through the later stages of an elevated supply cycle. Construction starts have declined sharply, setting the stage for a meaningful reduction in new supply through '26 and '27.

Speaker #3: Rent growth remains modest at the national level, but we are seeing improving performance in supply-constrained markets. There is some continued pressure in high-delivery regions to continue to work through.

James Flynn: There is some continued pressure in high delivery regions to continue to work through. Long-term demand drivers for rental housing remain intact. Affordability constraints, limited for sale inventory, and elevated single-family mortgage rates continue to support renter demand. Longer-term interest rates remain a central constraint. Although short-term rates have declined from peak levels, elevated long-term rates continue to anchor cap rates, pressure asset values, and limit access to attractively priced permanent financing. As a result, financing conditions have become more functional but still remain selective. Liquidity across securitization markets, warehouse facilities, and select balance sheet lenders has improved, supporting refinancing activity for well-capitalized assets with strong sponsors. The CRE CLO market remains a critical source of liquidity, with issuance continuing into 2026 amid strong investor demand for floating rate exposure. On the asset management side, portfolio management continues to be a central focus of our strategy.

Speaker #3: Long-term demand drivers for rental housing remain intact. Affordability constraints, limited for-sale inventory, and elevated single-family mortgage rates continue to support renter demand. Longer-term interest rates remain a central constraint.

Speaker #3: Although short-term rates have declined from peak levels, elevated long-term rates continue to anchor cap rates, pressure asset values, and limit access to attractively priced permanent financing. Conditions have become more functional but still remain selective.

Speaker #3: Liquidity across securitization markets, warehouse facilities, and select balance sheet lenders has improved, supporting refinancing activity for well-capitalized assets with strong sponsors. The CRE/CLO market remains a critical source of liquidity, with issuance continuing into 2026 amid strong investor demand for floating rate exposure.

Speaker #3: On the asset management side, portfolio management continues to be a central focus of our strategy. We remain closely engaged with borrowers across the portfolio and are actively managing our REO portfolio to protect shareholders' capital and long-term values.

James Flynn: We remain closely engaged with borrowers across the portfolio and are actively managing our REO portfolio to protect shareholders' capital and long-term values. During the quarter, overall portfolio credit performance remained relatively stable. We continue to take a disciplined approach to reserve management, increasing reserves on certain legacy positions to reflect revised expectations and prevailing market conditions. In terms of activity and liquidity, we continue to execute on our intended financing strategy. As discussed on the prior quarter's call this past February, we redeemed the remaining debt outstanding under LMF 2023-1 and refinanced the collateral through our warehouse facilities as well as amended our secured corporate loan, extending the maturity to 2030 and upsizing to $50 million. We have been carefully managing liquidity and are selectively redeploying investable capital within FL3.

Speaker #3: During the quarter, overall portfolio credit performance remained relatively stable. We continue to take a disciplined approach to reserve management, increasing reserves on certain legacy positions to reflect revised expectations and prevailing market conditions.

Speaker #3: In terms of activity and liquidity, we continue to execute on our intended financing strategy. As discussed on the prior quarter's call this past February, we redeemed the remaining debt outstanding under LMF 2023-1.

Speaker #3: And refinanced the collateral through our warehouse facilities, as well as amended our secured corporate loan, extending the maturity to 2030 and upsizing to $50 million.

Speaker #3: We have been carefully managing liquidity and are selectively redeploying investable capital within FL3. During Q1, we generated $47 million of aggregate payoffs and used reinvestment principal proceeds to acquire two new multifamily loan assets for $47 million and a $1 million minority participation related to an existing loan asset.

James Flynn: During Q1, we generated $47 million of aggregate payoffs and used reinvestment principal proceeds to acquire two new multifamily loan assets for $47 million and a $1 million minority participation related to an existing loan asset. We ended the quarter with unrestricted cash of approximately $21 million, combined with our available warehouse capacity and ability to reinvest FL3's capital over the course of its 30-month reinvestment period. We believe our liquidity position remains appropriate to support portfolio management, asset resolution, and select capital deployment. Our priorities remain making progress on resolving legacy assets and thoughtfully redeploying investable capital into attractive new loan asset opportunities. While credit markets have become more constructive, the recovery across commercial real estate remains uneven. Performance differentiation by asset quality, location, sponsorship, and capital structure continues to widen, underscoring the importance of selectivity.

Speaker #3: We ended the quarter with unrestricted cash of approximately $21 million, combined with our available warehouse capacity and ability to reinvest FL3's capital over the course of its 30-month reinvestment period.

Speaker #3: We believe our liquidity position remains appropriate to support portfolio management, asset resolution, and select capital deployment. Our priorities remain making progress on resolving legacy assets and thoughtfully redeploying investable capital into attractive new loan asset opportunities.

Speaker #3: While credit markets have become more constructive, the recovery across commercial real estate remains uneven. Performance differentiation by asset quality, location, sponsorship, and capital structure continues to widen.

Speaker #3: Underscoring the importance of selectivity. In this environment, we remain cautious and deliberate in deploying capital, emphasizing strong underwriting, protective structures, compelling risk-adjusted returns, and strong sponsors.

James Flynn: In this environment, we remain cautious and deliberate in deploying capital, emphasizing strong underwriting, protective structures, compelling risk-adjusted returns, and strong sponsors. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Jim Briggs, who will provide details on our financial results.

Speaker #3: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Jim Briggs, who will provide details on our financial results.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Jim. Thanks, Jim. Good afternoon, everyone. This morning, we provided a supplemental investor presentation on our website, which we will be referring to during our remarks.

James Briggs: Thanks, Jim. Thanks, Jim. Good afternoon, everyone. This morning, we provided a supplemental investor presentation on our website, which we'll be referring to during our remarks. The supplemental investor presentation has been uploaded to the webcast as well for your reference. On pages 4 through 7 of the presentation, you will find key updates and your earnings summary for the quarter. Today, after market closes, we intend to file our quarterly report with the SEC on Form 10-Q. For Q1 2026, we reported net loss to common stockholders of $1 million or $0.02 per share. We reported Distributable Earnings of $1.1 million or $0.02 per share. There are a few Q1 P&L items I'd like to highlight. Our Q1 net interest income was $5.7 million, a sequential improvement from $5.4 million recorded in Q4.

Speaker #2: The supplemental investor presentation has been uploaded to the webcast as well for your reference. On pages 4 through 7 of the presentation, you will find key updates and an earnings summary for the quarter.

Speaker #2: Today, after market close, we intend to file our quarterly report with the SEC on Form 10-Q. For the first quarter of 2026, we reported net loss to common stockholders of $1 million, or $0.02 per share, and reported distributable earnings of $1.1 million, or $0.02 per share.

Speaker #2: There are a few Q1 P&L items I'd like to highlight. Our Q1 net interest income was $5.7 million, a sequential improvement from $5.4 million recorded in Q4.

Speaker #2: This was largely driven by improved leverage and cost of funds through the FL3 CRE/CLO. Redemption mid-quarter of our LMF financing, which had a weighted average cost of funds at year-end of SOFR plus 331.

James Briggs: This was largely driven by improved leverage and cost of funds through the LMNT 2025-FL3 CRE CLO, redemption mid-quarter of our LMF financing, which had a weighted average cost of funds at year-end of SOFR plus 331, and utilization of our other facilities. On the other hand, weighted average coupon of our loan portfolio declined to 709 basis points compared to 717 basis points in the prior quarter due to payoffs of higher spread loans relative to newly acquired assets, as well as a decline in the SOFR benchmark rate during the period. Given the active management of reinvestment capacity within LMNT 2025-FL3, the ending outstanding UPB of the total portfolio remained materially flat quarter over quarter at $1.1 billion.

Speaker #2: And utilization of our other facilities. On the other hand, the weighted average coupon of our loan portfolio declined to 709 basis points, compared to 717 basis points in the prior quarter, due to payoffs of higher spread loans relative to newly acquired assets.

Speaker #2: As well as a decline in the SOFR benchmark rate during the period. Given the active management of reinvestment capacity within FL3, the ending outstanding UPB of the total portfolio remained materially flat quarter over quarter.

Speaker #2: At $1.1 billion. Total operating expenses, including fees to our manager, were slightly lower quarter on quarter at $3.7 million, versus $3.8 million in Q4.

James Briggs: Our total operating expenses, including fees to our manager, were slightly lower quarter-on-quarter at $3.7 million versus $3.8 million in Q4. Within these expenses, other operating expenses were lower sequentially, primarily due to discontinued deal costs we recorded in Q4. This was partially offset by reimbursable expenses being slightly higher this past quarter due to fewer waived exit fees on loan payoffs. As a reminder, when one of our loan asset pays off via an agency right refinancing provided by an affiliate of our manager, the borrower's exit fee is waived pursuant to the terms of our management agreement, and the company receives a credit against expenses reimbursable to our manager equal to 50% of the waived exit fee.

Speaker #2: Within these expenses, other operating expenses were lower sequentially, primarily due to discontinued deal costs we recorded in Q4. This was partially offset by reimbursable expenses being slightly higher this past quarter, due to fewer waived exit fees on loan payoffs.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, when one of our loan assets pays off via an agency refinancing provided by an affiliate of our manager, the borrower's exit fee is waived pursuant to the terms of our management agreement.

Speaker #2: And the company receives a credit against expenses reimbursable to our manager, equal to 50% of the waived exit fee. The difference between reported GAAP net loss and distributable earnings during the quarter was primarily attributable to a $1.3 million unrealized impairment expense on REO assets held for sale.

James Briggs: The difference between reported GAAP net loss and Distributable Earnings during the quarter was primarily attributable to $1.3 million unrealized impairment expense on REO assets held for sale. A $1.2 million loss on extinguishment of debt relating to the remaining unamortized deferred financing costs associated with the LMF financing structure that was redeemed in February, and a $732,000 net release of provision for credit losses, as well as $305,000 of depreciation on REO. As of 31 March, we had 7 loans risk rated a 5. All of these loans are collateralized by multifamily assets. Greg will provide a bit more detail in his remarks. With respect to our allowance for credit losses, we evaluated these 7 risk-rated 5 loans individually to determine whether asset-specific reserves were necessary.

Speaker #2: A $1.2 million loss on extinguishment of debt relating to the remaining unamortized deferred financing costs associated with the LMF financing structure that was redeemed in February.

Speaker #2: And a $732,000 net release of provision for credit losses, as well as $305,000 of depreciation on REO. As of March 31st, we had seven loans risk rated a five.

Speaker #2: All of these loans are collateralized by multifamily assets. Greg will provide a bit more detail in his remarks. With respect to our allowance for credit losses, we evaluated these seven risk-rated five loans individually to determine whether asset-specific reserves were necessary.

Speaker #2: After an analysis of the underlying collateral, we recorded a provision for specific reserves of approximately $550,000. This increase in specific reserves was offset by a $1.3 million decrease in our general allowance, primarily driven by changes to the macroeconomic forecast.

James Briggs: After an analysis of the underlying collateral, we recorded a provision for specific reserves of approximately $550,000. This increase in specific reserves was offset by a $1.3 million decrease in our general allowance, primarily driven by changes to the macroeconomic forecast. After factoring in a $2.4 million charge off to our specific allowance for an asset that transferred to REO, our specific reserves at 31 March amounted to $15.8 million, or approximately 15% of the associated loan UPB of specifically evaluated assets. During the period, we also remeasured the fair value of the San Antonio and Houston REO properties classified as held for sale and recorded a $1.4 million unrealized impairment expense on those two properties.

Speaker #2: After factoring in a $2.4 million charge-off to our specific allowance for an asset that transferred to REO, our specific reserves at $331 amounted to $15.8 million, or approximately 15% of the associated loan UPB of specifically evaluated assets.

Speaker #2: During the period, we also re-measured the fair value of the San Antonio and Houston REO properties classified as held for sale and recorded a $1.4 million unrealized impairment expense on those two properties.

Speaker #2: We will be noting in our subsequent events in the 10-Q that we completed a sale of the San Antonio property at the beginning of May for net proceeds of $12.4 million.

James Briggs: We'll be noting in our subsequent events in the Form 10-Q that we completed a sale of the San Antonio property at the beginning of May for net proceeds of $12.4 million. There will be no Q2 P&L related to that REO sale. At quarter end, we were substantially fully invested in our LMNT 2025-FL3 CLO at an approximate 88% advance rate and a cost of funds of SOFR plus 191. Period-end financing of performing and non-performing and REO assets on the repurchase facility was at a weighted average advance rate of 69% and a weighted average cost of SOFR plus 200. Period-end financing of non-performing and REO on our bank facility was at a weighted average advance rate of approximately 53% and a cost of SOFR plus 350.

Speaker #2: There will be no Q2 P&L related to that REO sale. At quarter end, we were substantially fully invested in our FL3 CLO, at an approximate 88% advance rate and a cost of funds of SOFR plus 191.

Speaker #2: Period-end financing of performing and non-performing and REO assets on the repurchase facility was at a weighted average advance rate of 69% and a weighted average cost of SOFR plus 200.

Speaker #2: Period-end financing of non-performing and REO on our bank facility was at a weighted average advance rate of approximately 53% and a cost of SOFR plus 350.

Speaker #2: We ended Q1 with an unrestricted cash balance of $21 million, and FL3 was substantially fully deployed. At the end of the quarter, it was approximately $216 million.

James Briggs: We ended Q1 with an unrestricted cash balance of $21 million, and LMNT 2025-FL3 was substantially fully deployed. The end of the quarter was approximately $216 million. Total book value of common stock was approximately $156 million or $2.97 per share, decreasing sequentially from $3.03 at 31 December. We'll now turn the call over to Greg Calvert to provide details on the company's investment activity and portfolio performance during the quarter. Greg.

Speaker #2: Total book value of common stock was approximately $156 million, or $2.97 per share, decreasing sequentially from $3.03 at December 31st. We'll now turn the call over to Greg Calvert to provide details on the company's investment activity and portfolio performance during the quarter.

Speaker #2: Greg?

Speaker #1: Thank you, Jim. During the first quarter, LFT acquired or funded $48 million of loan assets, effectively redeploying approximately the same amount of aggregate principal loan repayments received during the period.

Greg Calvert: Thank you, Jim. During Q1, LFT acquired or funded $48 million of loan assets, effectively redeploying approximately the same amount of aggregate principal loan retainage received during the period. As of 31 March, our total loan portfolio consisted of 57 floating rate loans with an aggregate unpaid principal balance of approximately $1.1 billion, a weighted average floated rate of 331 basis points over SOFR, and an unamortized aggregate purchase discount of $1.3 million. The weighted average remaining term of our book as a quarter end was approximately 19 months, assuming all available extensions are exercised by our borrowers. 100% of the portfolio was indexed to one-month SOFR, 93% of the portfolio is collateralized by multi-family properties.

Speaker #1: As of March 31st, our total loan portfolio consisted of 57 floating rate loans with an aggregate unpaid principal balance of approximately $1.1 billion, a weighted average floating rate of 331 basis points over SOFR, and an unamortized aggregate purchase discount of $1.3 million.

Speaker #1: The weighted average remaining term of our book as of quarter end was approximately 19 months, assuming all available extensions are exercised by our borrowers.

Speaker #1: 100% of the portfolio was indexed to one-month SOFR, and 93% of the portfolio is collateralized by multifamily properties. As of March 31st, approximately 77% of the loans in our portfolio were risk rated at 3 or better, compared to 83% as of December 31st.

Greg Calvert: As of 31 March, approximately 77% of the loans in our portfolio were risk graded at 3 or better, compared to 83% as of 31 December. Our weighted average risk rating quarter-over-quarter improved to 3.1 from 3.2, primarily driven by 1 risk-graded 5 loan asset, as we'll discuss in a moment. This loan was being transferred to REO during the period. As of 31 March, we had 7 risk-graded 5 loans with an aggregate principal amount of approximately $108 million, or approximately 10% of the unpaid principal balance of our quarter-end investment portfolio. These loans were also risk graded 5 as of the prior quarter.

Speaker #1: Our weighted average risk rating quarter over quarter improved to 3.1 from 3.2, primarily driven by one risk-rated five loan asset, as we'll discuss in a moment.

Speaker #1: This loan was being transferred to REO during the period. As of March 31st, we had seven risk-rated five loans with an aggregate principal amount of approximately $108 million.

Speaker #1: Or approximately 10% of the unpaid principal balance of our quarter-end investment portfolio. These loans were also risk-rated five as of the prior quarter.

Speaker #1: They included three loans in maturity default with an aggregate UPB of $51 million, collateralized by multifamily properties in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Arlington, Texas; and Cedar Park, Texas; and also four loans in monetary default with an aggregate UPB of $57 million, collateralized by multifamily properties in Tampa, Florida; Des Moines, Iowa; Tallahassee, Florida; and Salonti, Michigan.

Greg Calvert: They included 3 loans in maturity default with an aggregate UPB of $51 million collateralized by multi-family properties in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Arlington, Texas, Cedar Park, Texas, and also 4 loans in monetary default with an aggregate UPB of $57 million collateralized by multi-family properties in Tampa, Florida, Des Moines, Iowa, Tallahassee, Florida, and Ypsilanti, Michigan. During Q1, the company foreclosed on 1 loan asset collateralized by a multi-family property located in Colorado Springs. This asset had an aggregate net carry value of $8.2 million, net of specific reserves of $4.2 million. As of quarter end, the REO portfolio in total consisted of 4 multi-family properties with an aggregate carry value of $57 million and a weighted average occupancy rate of 72%. As Jim noted previously, we completed the sale of a San Antonio REO property at the beginning of May.

Speaker #1: During Q1, the company foreclosed on one loan asset collateralized by a multifamily property located in Colorado Springs. This asset had an aggregate net carry value of $8.2 million, net of specific reserves of $4.2 million.

Speaker #1: As of quarter end, the REO portfolio in total consisted of four multifamily properties with an aggregate carry value of $57 million and a weighted average occupancy rate of 72%.

Speaker #1: As Jim noted previously, we completed the sale of a San Antonio REO property at the beginning of May. Additionally, we note in our filing that, subsequent to quarter end, an Arlington, Texas defaulted loan asset was foreclosed on.

Greg Calvert: Additionally, we note in our filing that subsequent to quarter end, an Arlington, Texas, defaulted loan asset was foreclosed on. That asset had a net carry value of $18.2 million, net of specific reserves of $3.6 million. Achieving positive asset resolution and maximizing recovery values remains our priority. With that, I will pass it back to James Flynn for closing remarks and questions.

Speaker #1: That asset had a net carry value of $18.2 million, net of specific reserves of $3.6 million. Resolution and maximizing recovered values remains our priority. And with that, I will pass it back to Jim Flynn for closing remarks and questions.

Speaker #3: Thank you. Thank you, Greg. I appreciate everyone joining us today and the continued support and partnership. I appreciate all of you attending today and would now like to open the call to questions.

James Flynn: Thank you. Thank you, Greg. Appreciate everyone joining us today and the continued support and partnership. Appreciate all of you attending today and would now like to open the call to questions.

Speaker #4: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star, followed by one on your touch-tone phone.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. One moment please for your first question. Your first question comes from Jason Weaver with Jones Trading. Your line is now open.

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Speaker #4: Jones Trading, your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Hey, good afternoon. This is Alan Alvar here, filling in for Jason Weaver. Thank you for taking my question. How are you guys thinking about dividend sustainability?

Val Albar: Hey, good afternoon. This is Val Albar here filling in for Jason Weaver. Thank you for taking my question here. How are you guys thinking about dividend sustainability? What kind of combination of redeployment SOFR environment or credit normalization would be needed to recover the current dividend on a run rate basis? Thank you.

Speaker #5: And what kind of combination of redeployment, SOFR, environment, or credit normalization would be needed to recover the current dividend on a run-rate basis?

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #3: So the answer to the first question is, our expectations are to ensure that our annual earnings are covering our annual dividend. And so we do look at the transition and have been as we've moved from underdeployed for much of 2025, and even going back a little bit further, to deleveraging in our two CLOs.

James Flynn: The answer to the first question is, our expectations are to ensure that our annual earnings are covering our annual dividend. We do look at the transition and have been as we've moved from under deployed for much of 2025 and even going back a little bit further to deleveraging in our two CLOs and managing liquidity for some of the troubled assets, which as you heard today, we're working through those in a pretty good fashion, maintaining value, but certainly taking a little bit more time in order to do so.

Speaker #3: And managing liquidity for some of the troubled assets, which, as you heard today, we're working through those in a pretty good fashion. Maintaining value, but certainly taking a little bit more time in order to do so.

Speaker #3: So, that transition—we're hopeful to see the ability to execute a new securitization transaction at some point in the relatively near future. It is dependent on some of the resolutions that we have planned occurring at the asset level.

James Flynn: That transition, we're hopeful to see the ability to execute a new securitization transaction at some point in the relative near future. It is dependent on some of the resolutions that we have planned occurring at the asset level. The biggest driver of returning to a fully covered and higher dividend that we've seen in the past is to be able to deploy our capital in an efficient way. That requires us to be able to use the capital markets to be able to use the capital that's not currently invested in the securitization to put that into a securitization. That is the biggest trigger for coverage in my opinion, and how we're anticipating doing that in the coming quarters.

Speaker #3: And so, the biggest driver of returning to a fully covered and higher dividend that we've seen in the past is to be able to deploy our capital in an efficient way.

Speaker #3: And that requires us to be able to use the capital markets, to be able to use capital that's not currently invested in a securitization, to put that into a securitization.

Speaker #3: So that is the biggest trigger for coverage. And in my opinion, and how we're anticipating quarters. In terms of SOFR, it's obvious that has an impact on earnings, but again, the bigger impact is the leverage you can get in the securitization.

James Flynn: In terms of SOFR, you know, obviously that has an impact on earnings, but again, the bigger impact is the leverage you can get in the securitization, finding appropriate deals with good spreads or decent spreads, and having a capital markets environment that is healthy on the liability side, which it continues to be as of today, and we expect it to in the future.

Speaker #3: Finding appropriate deals with good spreads or decent spreads, and having a capital markets environment that is healthy on the liability side, which it continues to be as of today.

Speaker #3: And we expect it to in the future. So we certainly are talking to the board and looking at our projections, and looking at our midterm view over the next several quarters and long-term view over the next several years.

James Flynn: We certainly are talking to the board and looking at our projections and looking at our, you know, midterm view over the next several quarters and long-term view over the next several years and ensuring that our expectations in the projections are to be able to cover, fully cover, a dividend and obviously, hopefully, as we continue to resolve the portfolio and reinvest it, to be able to eventually grow the dividend.

Speaker #3: And ensuring that our expectations in the projections are to be able to fully cover a dividend and, obviously, hopefully, as we continue to resolve the portfolio and reinvest it, to be able to eventually grow the dividend.

Speaker #5: Great. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Val Albar: Great. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker #4: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press star one. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to James for closing remarks.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press star one. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to James for closing remarks. I'm sorry. There's a question from Lee Zoltz with Ober/Cap. Your line is now open.

Speaker #4: I'm sorry. There's a question from Lee Zilch with Oberkap. Your line is now open.

Speaker #6: Good, thank you very much for taking my question. On very positive news on the San Antonio property, can you provide a little color on the other REO properties?

James Flynn: Sure.

James Flynn: Good. Thank you very much for taking my call, my question.

Lee Zulch: Good. Thank you very much for taking my call, my question.

James Flynn: Sure.

James Flynn: Very positive news on the San Antonio property. Can you provide a little color on the other REO properties? What characteristics did San Antonio have that it sold these other ones? Just how did that work out and how are the ones going forward, how do you see them being sold in the future?

Lee Zulch: Very positive news on the San Antonio property. Can you provide a little color on the other REO properties? What characteristics did San Antonio have that it sold these other ones? Just how did that work out and how are the ones going forward, how do you see them being sold in the future?

Speaker #6: What characteristics did San Antonio have that it sold these other ones? Is there issues that—just, how did that work out and how are the ones going forward?

Speaker #6: How do you see them being sold in the future?

Speaker #3: Sure. Let me answer that from a little bit more of a macro level, and then Greg and Zach can give you maybe a little more color on those.

James Flynn: Sure. Let me answer that from a little bit more of a macro level, and then, you know, Greg and Zach can give you maybe a little more color on those. From a macro level, you know, the path of action is it's somewhat simple. The first is we have a, you know, with the support of the sponsor, for Lument, a much larger organization. We have, you know, a very sophisticated group of asset managers, of REO experts and people who can run and manage property within the manager. When we're looking at an asset, you know, the first question is, are we able to improve this asset in any meaningful way over a, call it 6 months or less period, without too much capital?

Speaker #3: But from a macro level, the path of action is somewhat simple. So the first is, we have, with the support of the sponsor for LFT, a much larger organization. We have a very sophisticated group of asset managers, of REO experts, and people who can run and manage property within the manager.

Speaker #3: And when we're looking at an asset, the first question is: Are we able to improve this asset in any meaningful way over a, call it, six-month or less period without too much capital?

Speaker #3: And if the answer is yes, then we're going to hold the asset for those couple of quarters—maybe two or three quarters—improve on the low-hanging fruit that's been typically neglected by the existing sponsor, and then market the asset for sale at the appropriate kind of market timing.

James Flynn: If the answer is yes, we're going to hold the asset for, you know, those couple quarters, maybe two or three quarters, improve on the low-hanging fruit that's been typically neglected by the existing sponsor, and market the asset for sale at the appropriate kind of market timing. That's another piece of it, you know. Typically, we're not gonna. The winter is like the worst time to trying to be renting and things like that. We have to take that into account.

Speaker #3: That's another piece of it. So typically, we're not going to—the winter's the worst time to try and be renting and things like that.

Speaker #3: So we have to take that into account. The second longer-term view is if we invest capital have a return on an appropriate return on capital for the investors that incremental capital and return a greater value to the current shareholders because our team is has a view in that market and that asset that it is far undervalued and has been poorly managed and with some limited reinvestment, we can really improve the bottom line for the shareholders.

James Flynn: The second, longer term view is if we invest capital, can we have an appropriate return on capital for the investors, that incremental capital, and return a greater value to the current shareholders, because our team has a view in that market and that asset that it is far undervalued and has been poorly managed, and with some limited reinvestment, we can really improve the bottom line for the shareholders. In that case, we might hold it longer, so a year plus. For those assets where we feel that they're really struggling, it's a difficult market, and the best course of action is to resolve it and get out of it as quickly as possible.

Speaker #3: In that case, we might hold it longer—so, a year plus. And then for those assets where we feel that they're really struggling, it's a difficult market, and the best course of action is to resolve it and get out of it as quickly as possible.

Speaker #3: So, it's really asset- and market-specific, which would, frankly, answer the question at hand here. But maybe Greg and Zach, you can add a little more color on those couple of deals.

James Flynn: It's really asset and market specific, which would frankly answer the question at hand here. Maybe Greg and Zach, you can add a little more color on those couple of deals.

Speaker #6: Well, I think you did a good job, Jim, of the macro approach. But the only thing I will add is—and Jim was alluding to this—that our business on the REO, and the disposition and asset management side, is a micro business.

Greg Calvert: Well, I think you did a good job, Jim, of the macro approach. The only thing I will add is, and Jim was alluding to this, that our business on the REO and the disposition and asset management side is a micro business. It's driven by the specific asset at the specific location and the market fundamentals that we're up against at the time. You know, the spring is a good time to dispose of assets, right? It's the leasing season. Many of them we're looking at now, we've kind of plotted out when our best exit would be. Back to the market specifics, we have a pretty broad broker network and investor network in these markets.

Speaker #6: It's driven by the specific assets at the specific location and the market fundamentals that we're up against at the time. The spring is a good time.

Speaker #6: Dispose of assets, right? It's the leasing season. So many of them we're looking at now, we've kind of plotted out when our best exit would be.

Speaker #6: Back to the market specifics, we have a pretty broad broker network and investor network in these markets. The rise in interest rates puts downward pressure on our exit abilities.

Greg Calvert: Rise in interest rates puts downward pressure on our exit abilities. We've overall seen real, general interest in our multifamily assets that we're bringing to market. I'll stop there for now.

Speaker #6: But we've overall seen a general interest in our multifamily assets that we're bringing to market. I'll stop there for now.

Speaker #5: Okay. Thank you.

James Flynn: Okay. Thank you.

Lee Zulch: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Operator, and thank you all for joining and expressing interest in the platform. We appreciate your investment and look forward to speaking to you in the coming quarters.

James Flynn: Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining and expressing interest in the platform. We appreciate your investment. Look forward to speaking to you in the coming quarters.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.